highaltitude.log.20140825

[00:00] <N00b88788> Sweet. Thanks! Just the boost I needed.
[00:01] <adamgreig> you're welcome!
[00:01] <adamgreig> feel free to ask questions here, lots of people who've flown aprs and other balloons in the states and elsewhere (mostly the uk, admittedly)
[00:01] <adamgreig> there are probably options for you that don't involve getting an amateur licence, but it's easy enough over there, and a tech class is all you need
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[05:49] <Maxell> Morning guys/gals
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[07:55] <Maxell> craag_philcrump: 25,8 km APRS packet @ websdr: G4KWT>MB7UJ,WIDE3-3,qAR,PD1ODE-1:=5127.53N/00052.88W-denis@pibworth.org.uk {UIV32}
[07:58] <RocketBoy> dear Arduino experts: Ive often wondered what the Arduino is actually doing between each call of loop() ?
[08:06] <jonsowman> RocketBoy: https://code.google.com/p/arduino/source/browse/branches/arduino-0018/hardware/arduino/cores/arduino/main.cpp
[08:09] <RocketBoy> humm - in that case why bother having setup(0 and loop() and mot just have main() like any other C environment?
[08:09] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, are you playing with arduino?
[08:10] <RocketBoy> no - I just trying to work out arduino code - so I can work out how to do it properly :P
[08:11] <jonsowman> RocketBoy: because of init() I guess - this way lets them change things behind the scenes whilst not breaking users' code
[08:11] <jcoxon> remember that its based on wiring
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[08:12] <jonsowman> and it gives them the opportunity to hide more things in main() should it become necessary
[08:12] <jonsowman> I'm not saying it's a good idea
[08:13] <RocketBoy> jonsowman: other environmants just put init stuff before the call to main()
[08:13] <RocketBoy> semms like its being different for the sake of it
[08:14] <RocketBoy> s/semms//seems
[08:14] <jonsowman> yeah that would be possible
[08:14] <jonsowman> I don't know really, just guessing
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[08:20] <RocketBoy> :-###..
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[08:55] <Scott85> morning
[08:55] <Scott85> do you think an X50 antenna would work well if it was inside a chimney?
[08:56] <Scott85> just thinking of ways to hide a bigger antenna if I do decide to get one
[08:56] <Scott85> assuming nobody lights a fire under it of course :)
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[08:59] <jcoxon> i'm not sure how well that will work
[08:59] <jcoxon> with the brick surround
[08:59] <Darkside> depends how conductive the brick is :P
[08:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No the carbon and water in the top of a chimmney will make it pretty useless.
[08:59] <Darkside> ahh ys
[08:59] <Darkside> soot..
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[09:02] <mfa298> Get a suitable chimney mounting kit and stick the antenna on the chimmney instead.
[09:02] <mfa298> antennas like being high up with a clear view of the landscape around them.
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[09:09] <Scott85> not sure I'll get away with that, that's why I though inside
[09:09] <Scott85> I'll have to make another plan
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[09:34] <cm13g09> morning mfa298
[09:37] <mfa298> Scott85: if part of the issue is what neighbours might say/think you could always look at something a bit smaller like an X-30 and then spend a bit more on the coax (move up from rg58 to rg213, or rg213 to W103 etc.)
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[09:43] <lz1dev> !ping b-66
[09:43] <lz1dev> !ping b-66
[09:43] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03B-66 was 038 days ago
[09:43] <lz1dev> !hysplit b-66
[09:43] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: HYSPLIT for 03b-66 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140825_178389_B66.gif
[09:45] <Scott85> mfa298: I'm more worried about what the landlady would say, don't think she'll go for me attaching antennas to her house :)
[09:45] <Scott85> thanks though, I'll take a look at that antenna
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[09:47] <mfa298> depending on the building and surroundings I've had some success with a small antenna poked out the window, but I'm in a tower block so have a height advantage
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[10:52] <MaXimaN> Afternoon everyone
[10:52] <MaXimaN> Perfect day for a launch!
[10:53] Action: MaXimaN listens to the rain pelting the window
[10:53] <chimpusamximus> Hi, just after some feedback. We did some testing this morning on the radio tracker etc we are looking to us. Using a 1/4 wave ground plane antenna on payload and SDR, LNA and WSM-270 Mini Mag Antenna we managed over 500m on the ground. SSDV image reception was not good but telemetry was fine. does this sound ok?
[10:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup for ground range that is to be expected
[10:55] <chimpusamximus> cool, wanted to ensure we at least getting close to whats expected.
[10:55] <MaXimaN> !ping b-63
[10:55] <SpacenearUS> 03MaXimaN: Last contact with 03B-63 was 0315 days ago
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[11:27] <madmax34> !ping b-66
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> 03madmax34: Last contact with 03B-66 was 038 days ago
[11:27] <madmax34> !ping b-64
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> 03madmax34: Last contact with 03B-64 was 03a day ago
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[11:32] <fsphil> chimpusamximus: I would have thought ssdv reception would be more reliable than telemetry
[11:36] <chimpusamximus> For ssdv it was dropping a fair few packets
[11:37] <fsphil> how many stop bits?
[11:38] <chimpusamximus> Can think of a few things we can possibly improve such as usb extention cable to move dongle away from laptop. 2 stop bits
[11:38] <fsphil> hmm yea. very odd
[11:40] <chimpusamximus> i was not on the laptop end.. i got to walk in the rain lol.
[11:40] <fsphil> hehe. it's pretty awful outside today
[11:41] <cm13g09> fsphil: I went outside earlier for about 30 seconds... and needed a change of clothes.....
[11:42] <cm13g09> due to that much rain coming down
[11:43] <fsphil> the wind is picking up too which doesn't help
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[11:43] <cm13g09> hmm
[11:43] <cm13g09> not good
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[12:28] <navrac_work> chosing a callsign is difficult
[12:29] <daveake> Generally SSDV works better than telemetry, so something's wrong there
[12:29] <fsphil> naming anything is difficult
[12:30] <fsphil> the worst question on any new linux install
[12:30] <fsphil> "Hostname:"
[12:30] <fsphil> I've sat for hours at that
[12:30] <daveake> lol
[12:30] <daveake> ^^^ try that as a hostname
[12:30] <lz1dev> tobedecided5
[12:31] <daveake> Good name for a child. Toby Cided
[12:32] <navrac_work> i suppose I'll only have it for a few months so its not critical
[12:33] <daveake> I came up with a few for my M6; all but one were taken
[12:33] <navrac_work> M6EOT ? M6FUD ?
[12:33] <navrac_work> all my favourites have gone
[12:33] <daveake> Turns out that the one I got was taken too :./
[12:33] <navrac_work> I see M6VPL is available still
[12:34] <navrac_work> oh thats handy - I'll apply for one i want then and see if i get it
[12:34] <navrac_work> 30 years ago I used to 'borrow' a callsign, no one noticed for 5 years
[12:35] <daveake> The way it works is that the web site offers you one, or you choose your own. You then spend 30 minutes in a cycle of "Choose --> No already taken"
[12:35] <navrac_work> ive got febs list of available to narrow the choices down
[12:35] <daveake> cool
[12:35] <cm13g09> daveake: Yeah... and if you put one in you want
[12:35] <daveake> Dunno if you saw last night, but my M6 callsign had actually already been issued to someone else
[12:36] <navrac_work> i think i might go for m6JNZ as JNZ was my favourite instruction on the 8085
[12:36] <cm13g09> it doesn't give you an option to change afterwards
[12:36] <daveake> Waiting for OFCOM to a) figure out WTF happened b) fix it c) apologise
[12:36] <cm13g09> (i.e. there's no "Please confirm" screen)
[12:36] <fsphil> still at a) then?
[12:36] <navrac_work> yes - i saw that Dave - thats what started me thinking i ough to give it soe thought
[12:36] <navrac_work> WTF wasnt available
[12:36] <daveake> fsphil My clone is chasing them; I've not seen a reply yet
[12:36] <cm13g09> daveake: I'll be surprised if ofcom ever quite figure out it....
[12:36] <daveake> me too
[12:37] <daveake> If I don't get a good answer I'll do a FOI request "How many duplicate callsigns have you issued by mistake (that you know about)?"
[12:38] <cm13g09> I suspect the most likely thing is: b) will happen, c) might happen, a) might never happen
[12:38] <daveake> yes
[12:38] <daveake> Maybe I can get M6DUP
[12:38] <SpeedEvil> daveake: 'We don't know, and that would take over 600 pounds to investigate, so ***'
[12:47] <navrac_work> M6SFU is another possibility
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[12:58] <chimpusamximus> daveake: will carry out some more testing. Its with the Pi in the sky board.
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[13:03] <daveake> Should be fine. Check out the Rx setup, in particular the frequency shift setting
[13:04] <chimpusamximus> ok will do cheers. So far been very impressed. Just been looking at a few code changes. For the BMP085 has any one tested the replacment BMP180.
[13:05] <daveake> It works with the same code so it'll be fine.
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[13:06] <chimpusamximus> yeah that was my thinking but just thought worth checking.
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03B-66 after 038 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?filter=B-66
[13:09] <arko> Nice!
[13:10] <lz1dev> !whereis b-66
[13:10] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03B-66 is over 03North Atlantic Ocean 10(49.349,-12.9888) at 0313460 meters
[13:10] <Upu> lol
[13:10] <Upu> almost home :)
[13:10] <N2NXZ> Very nice
[13:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Brilliant
[13:11] <murb> a bit too south!
[13:11] <arko> !whereis LeoBodnar
[13:11] <SpacenearUS> 03arko: I haven't got a clue
[13:11] <arko> I'll tell you
[13:12] <arko> He's on an island drinking pina coladas
[13:12] <Upu> that script is damn useful :)
[13:12] <arko> Chilling and watching his habs
[13:12] Action: Upu raises a beer to lz1dev
[13:12] <arko> :P
[13:12] <LeoBodnar> B-nanza continues?
[13:12] <arko> Seriously, nice not lz1dev
[13:12] <arko> Love the hysplit function
[13:13] <arko> LeoBodnar: the B in the sky keeps on turning :)
[13:13] <LeoBodnar> we just need natural language bot and we are set
[13:14] <lz1dev> 3.5 hours til next hysplit
[13:14] <mattbrejza> its pretty much right on that hysplit point
[13:14] <mattbrejza> lets see how much it followed it
[13:15] <lz1dev> !track b-*
[13:15] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Here you go - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?filter=b-*
[13:15] <arko> Hah
[13:16] <lz1dev> laziness is strong in me
[13:16] <arko> !hysplit b-66
[13:16] <SpacenearUS> 03arko: HYSPLIT for 03b-66 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140825_190654_B66.gif
[13:16] <arko> Its coming for Austria!
[13:17] <arko> I fly out Wednesday :(
[13:17] <mattbrejza> can you save the hysplit for b66 thats currently sitting on /mt as a kml or similar to compare routes later?
[13:17] <lz1dev> mattbrejza: see the url above?
[13:17] <lz1dev> change gif to kmz
[13:17] <mattbrejza> ah
[13:18] <lz1dev> but the current one will update in about 3.5hrs
[13:18] <cm13g09> lz1dev: nice scripting :)
[13:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> Already saved in the folders here!
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[13:22] <tweetBot> @G8DHE: HAB UPDATE: B-66 will be second double circumnavigation following B-64 http://t.co/qQHFpaN7dX #ukhas #hamr #hab
[13:25] <Laurenceb__> woot
[13:25] <Laurenceb__> B-66
[13:26] <Laurenceb__> and it has a log too
[13:27] <Laurenceb__> this might meet FAI rules
[13:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-66_20140719/Polar_Image.jpg
[13:29] <N2NXZ> Anyone know how long it takes for approval for flight docs using genpayload?
[13:29] <Laurenceb__> yeah
[13:29] <adamgreig> you have to ask N2NXZ
[13:29] <Laurenceb__> ironically the first B-66 flight doesnt meet FAI rules
[13:30] <Laurenceb__> too much lost data
[13:31] <Laurenceb__> so this is only the second official circumnavigation
[13:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> N2NXZ, Best to quote the Flight Doc ID in #habhub asking for approval
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[13:34] <F1VJQ> Yippee! B-66 is back home!!
[13:35] <N2NXZ> Ok,thank you,looking on the site again.I am new to this.
[13:36] <F1VJQ> LeoBodnar B-66 is back on the map, south of Ireland
[13:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> Best to make sure you have data being parsed right from Payload using http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[13:36] <N2NXZ> B-66 is an amazing thing,hard to believe
[13:37] <N2NXZ> I have tested that several times and do see my data.Seems to be working,then created a flight doc minutes ago.
[13:38] <adamgreig> N2NXZ: great. do you have the flight doc id?
[13:38] <N2NXZ> In the prcess of testing the tracker,it will come out of sleep mode in a few hours and was hoping to test it online
[13:38] <adamgreig> if you have a payload doc it'l go through to spacenear.us anyway
[13:38] <adamgreig> flight docs are only valid inside the flight window which should only be when actually flying
[13:38] <SpeedEvil> And wow.
[13:39] <adamgreig> but you will need to tell someone the doc id sometime
[13:39] <N2NXZ> 02a214fa2e241392a65ce53eef7bf42e is this the ID?
[13:39] <adamgreig> yep
[13:39] <adamgreig> for sept 5th?
[13:39] <adamgreig> you have the timezone set to Europe/London
[13:39] <N2NXZ> Yes...if weather permits
[13:39] <adamgreig> which is probably not what you wanted
[13:39] <N2NXZ> I used UTC,does it need changing?
[13:40] <N2NXZ> I see...wrong country
[13:40] <adamgreig> well the problem is the launch window
[13:40] <adamgreig> is midnight to midnight in the timezone you specified, for a one day window
[13:40] <F1VJQ> B-66 is still 964km from me, but it is all sea path... I think I'll switch my 2m igate on with 12 ele yagi!!
[13:40] <fsphil> oh yea, I get home and this B misses my house
[13:40] <adamgreig> and your launch is at 2100 UTC, so would only be in-window for three hours
[13:41] <N2NXZ> I understood it was the launch day and time
[13:41] <fsphil> B repeller working again
[13:41] <N2NXZ> OK
[13:41] <adamgreig> N2NXZ: yep. just the timezone needs to be specified so we know when the launch day is
[13:41] <F1VJQ> fsphil it isn't so much the B-repeller as the LeoMagnet
[13:41] <N2NXZ> I see no choices for timezone,manually entered then
[13:42] <adamgreig> N2NXZ: the box is an autocomplete thing, you start typing (or just click) and it should start narrowing down options
[13:42] <adamgreig> there are a lot of timezones
[13:42] <N2NXZ> ok
[13:43] <SpeedEvil> F1VJQ: 960km is probably a _leetle_ optimistic :)
[13:43] <SpeedEvil> Remember it's only at 12km
[13:43] <db_g6gzh> fsphil: if we can coordinate you and arko we should be able to control where these Bs go
[13:43] <fsphil> lol
[13:43] <N2NXZ> And time will be UTC?
[13:44] <fsphil> we're like B sheppards
[13:44] <F1VJQ> SpeedEvil yes, even over the sea, but I can hear 70cm on Leo's flights out to 450km so only really another 500km before I expect sigs!
[13:44] <adamgreig> N2NXZ: time is local
[13:44] <adamgreig> to whatever timezone you pick
[13:45] <N2NXZ> ok,i think is is correct,going to save that
[13:45] <fsphil> I'd better wire up a radio just in case
[13:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-66 is 1Km below the predictions as well
[13:47] <Laurenceb__> prediction is isobaric
[13:47] <Laurenceb__> not constant density
[13:47] <F1VJQ> B-66 first appeared 40 minutes ago...
[13:47] <N2NXZ> Think it is correct now 2d0569cbe70c41dad9ceb5f26b8aa541
[13:50] <F1VJQ> SpeedEvil I recorded a beacon in the Azores on 2m a few years ago at a distance of 2565km - recording here> http://www.beaconspot.eu/beaconsnd.php?beaconcall=CU8DUB&bandmhz=144
[13:50] <SpeedEvil> :)
[13:51] <SpeedEvil> Skip is wierd
[13:51] <db_g6gzh> F1VJQ: you weren't in channel at the time but there's now a bot which announced the reappearance
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[13:52] <F1VJQ> CU8DUB not skip - it was tropo - heard it all day and evening
[13:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Could do with the Bot sending it out on Twitter as well ;-0
[13:52] <F1VJQ> db_g6gzh OK thanks - a rare occurrence for a bot announcement!
[13:53] <F1VJQ> SpeedEvil it was CU8DUB see above
[13:54] <N2NXZ> Good beacon catch
[13:55] <fsphil> imagine if visible light behaved like that
[13:55] <fsphil> the sky would look so weird
[13:55] <F1VJQ> 2232km
[13:55] <adamgreig> N2NXZ: think that is a payload ID not a flight ID
[13:56] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_flash
[13:56] <N2NXZ> Not sure what to use
[13:56] <F1VJQ> N2NXZ There is another one I recorded at 2232km - CU2VHF >> http://www.beaconspot.eu/beaconsnd.php?beaconcall=CU2VHF&bandmhz=144
[13:57] <adamgreig> N2NXZ: ok, got it
[13:57] <adamgreig> flight approved
[13:57] <adamgreig> good luck with the weather!
[13:58] <F1VJQ> fsphil I have seens ships out to sea that look like skyscrapers... so it does behave oddly, but not to the same degree
[13:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Solar panels seem down on B-66
[13:59] <N2NXZ> <adamgreig> Thanks for your help.Weather has been fantastic all summer at the time selected.But you know what happens day of launch :(
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[13:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> may not be above all the cloud with the storm coming in from West ?
[14:01] <N2NXZ> So it is ok to allow the test transmission over DLfldigi when it begins in a few hours?
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[14:03] <adamgreig> yep N2NXZ
[14:04] <N2NXZ> Great,then the task of mass emails and how to use the program.Finding ground trackers in the USA where needed is a job on its own.
[14:04] <madmax34> !hysplit b-66
[14:04] <SpacenearUS> 03madmax34: HYSPLIT for 03b-66 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140825-10_190654_B66.gif
[14:06] <fsphil> not a bad prediction
[14:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> as good as B-64 was
[14:07] <F1VJQ> The B-66 hysplit looks good. it looked like that yesterday when I was expecting to see it back,
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[14:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> just a case of knowing which of the tracks is right!
[14:08] <F1VJQ> well yes, but they all head for S Coast UK
[14:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> That's the Leo factor
[14:09] <F1VJQ> it was just a bit vague in the Frozen wastes of Canada1
[14:09] <lz1dev> BREAKING NEWS: HAB confirmed to poses intelligence
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[14:09] <F1VJQ> EXPERTS conclude
[14:09] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Not many sign posts up there to give the direction
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[14:15] <N2NXZ> I am very lucky on this launch.My neighbor agreed to help track,his antenna system is ideal. http://s430.photobucket.com/user/N2NXZ/slideshow/VHF%20UHF%20tracking
[14:18] <N2NXZ> One more question to anyone.How well does Dlfldigi work using dialup?My neighbor is elderly and is still a bit outdated :)
[14:19] <Upu> fine its not sending much data up
[14:20] <lz1dev> well, really depends on what 'dial up' means
[14:21] <adamgreig> phoar
[14:21] <adamgreig> bet he can get better than dialup speeds with that rig over the air!
[14:22] <lz1dev> IP over APRS?
[14:22] <LeoBodnar> hands up those who thought B-66 is dead
[14:22] <LeoBodnar> o/
[14:22] <lz1dev> b-63 might be dead
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[14:22] <LeoBodnar> dial-up to a balloon is actually literal
[14:23] <Upu> I think B-63 is dead
[14:23] <LeoBodnar> me too
[14:23] <lz1dev> LeoBodnar: you have to stay strong
[14:23] <LeoBodnar> i am, just a bout to get some food
[14:23] <Upu> It should have pinged Japan
[14:24] <N2NXZ> I will go to his house shortly and install dlfldigi for him and get him squared away with it.Maybe I should loan my mobile device if he has wireless card
[14:24] <LeoBodnar> no it was turning north
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[14:25] <N2NXZ> Leo,congrats on the amazing balloon flights,catch you all later.Gotta teach old dog new tricks!!
[14:25] <Upu> good luck Jim :)
[14:26] <N2NXZ> Tnx,thanks for the help with flight docs!
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[14:30] <LeoBodnar> thanks Jim, good luck!
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[14:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Dev88 and x17 should get it about the same time ...
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[14:50] <Jerry> Leo, many congratulations from the APJHAB team , really outstanding achievements.
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[14:51] <LeoBodnar> thanks Jerry !
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[15:05] <chrisstubbs> ping aadamson
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[15:06] <aadamson> hi chrisstubbs
[15:07] <chrisstubbs> pm
[15:07] <aadamson> kk
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[15:48] <DL7AD> good evening
[15:48] <DL7AD> or afternoon
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[15:49] <DL7AD> hi SHARP-SATS
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[16:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-66 Polar view http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-66_20140719/Polar_Image.jpg
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[16:09] <DL7AD> !ping B-66
[16:09] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: Last contact with 03B-66 was 034 minutes ago
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[16:09] <malgar> ooooooooooooooooooooh
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[16:10] <malgar> the forecast has been so precise!
[16:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> Laurenceb_, Do you have a link for the FAA rules on circumnavigation, wanted to plot the shape on the polar view ?
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[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[16:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah found it http://www.fai.org/downloads/cia/SC1
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[16:33] <DL7AD> !hysplit B-66
[16:33] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: HYSPLIT for 03B-66 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140825-10_190654_B66.gif
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[16:51] <DJ3AK> B-66 is back again!
[16:51] <SpeedEvil> :)
[16:51] <malgar> I'm afraid that tomorrow B-66 will be behind the mountains :( http://www.heywhatsthat.com/bin/profile-0904.cgi?src=profiler-0904&curvature=1&axes=1&greatcircle=1&metric=1&freq=434&refraction=&exaggeration=&pt0=46.040293,11.060658,ff0000&pt1=49.339441,12.403565,,13500
[16:56] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Don't worry Leo will probably fly them like Loons now releasing them every day so one passes over each day ;-)
[16:56] <malgar> :P
[16:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Then all Google will have to do is reduce the size and weight of there transmitters ....
[17:00] <DJ3AK> Last successful B-66 decode here was on 16th of July, when it passed south of my location. Lost it at 409 km distance over southeast Bavaria. Hope it will get in range again :-)
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[17:01] <murb> hmm is predicted to go close to my possition...
[17:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I think it just might come in range for you!
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[17:02] <DJ3AK> Looks like it may be passing south of me
[17:03] <malgar> DJ3AK: where are you?
[17:04] <murb> ah i could probably have seen it on its first pass, if i'd been looking.
[17:04] <DJ3AK> in north Germany near Braunschweig (Maidenhead: JO52GJ)
[17:05] <Maxell> !whereis B-66
[17:05] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: 03B-66 was over 0349.352,-6.9795 at 0313481 meters
[17:05] <Maxell> No geolocation? :(
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[17:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Water ....
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[17:06] <qyx_> hm, it should pass over central eu
[17:06] <Maxell> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Sea is not just water :P
[17:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> OK by a Cod on the port, herring to starboard
[17:08] <F1VJQ> B-66 just crossed over B-64 spot at sea....
[17:10] <DL7AD> !hysplit B-66
[17:10] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: HYSPLIT for 03B-66 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140825-16_198788_B66.gif
[17:11] <murb> ah so should cross nothern bavaria.
[17:11] <Maxell> DL7AD: it only updates once evey 6 hours
[17:11] <Maxell> Sadly :(
[17:11] <DL7AD> Maxell: yeah and one hours ago there still has been the very old prediction
[17:12] <DJ3AK> B-64 last succesful decode here was two days ago at distance of 443 km @ -0.4 degrees elev. over the baltic sea. Thanks to Leo and Ctestia 64/1000!
[17:12] <Maxell> oh yes I see the updated one now \o/
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[17:14] <tweetBot> @JeroenAlexander: HYSPLIT for B-66/M0XER-6: http://t.co/xxEjjH8mVx - Map at http://t.co/twbEE6EKnC #ukhas #hamr #hab
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[17:19] <Laurenceb__> looks like this circumnavigation will meet FAI rules
[17:20] <F1VJQ> This will be Leo's 5th one?
[17:21] <F1VJQ> B-64 still hiding out there somewhere, but not looking good
[17:22] <F1VJQ> B-63 I mean...
[17:22] <Laurenceb__> it might have got iced
[17:22] <Laurenceb__> at 12 Km, icing happens about every 60 days on average
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[17:23] <F1VJQ> Laurenceb__ either that or the North Koreans are paranoid !
[17:23] <murb> but how good are their air defences?
[17:24] <F1VJQ> murb only one way to find out!!
[17:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> the solar level was fluctuating as it came in this afternoon, must have been some thin cloud above ..
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[17:26] <Laurenceb__> looks like its spinning to me
[17:26] <Flerb__> My granddad wanted some kind of wireless temperature monitoring in the greenhouse. What kind of radio modules would be ideal (for arduino to arduino communication across the garden)
[17:27] <Flerb__> We'd really probably just have it reporting back on the temperature, but data could also include soil moisture, and we'd probably want updates every few minutes
[17:27] <Laurenceb__> the log data seems to be low pass filtered
[17:27] <Laurenceb__> very neat
[17:27] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Flerb, take a look at UKHASnet on the web or #ukhasnet on here
[17:27] <mfa298> Flerb__: look at ukhas.net and #ukhasnet
[17:28] <mfa298> Geoff-G8DHE-M: snap
[17:28] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> missed th _
[17:28] <Flerb__> Ah. I guess they might be using some relevant ones
[17:28] <Flerb__> Could even set it up on ukhasnet
[17:28] <Flerb__> Maybe not
[17:28] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Right time to sort some food out AFK
[17:29] <mfa298> ukhas.net is currently using rfm69's and people are doing temperature collection http://www.ukhas.net/nodeInfo?id=63
[17:29] <Laurenceb__> B-66 average speed in 35mph
[17:29] <Laurenceb__> *is
[17:30] <cm13g09> anyone seen craag_philcrump recently?
[17:30] <mfa298> cm13g09: I think he's away from civilisation over the weekend (although presumably back this evening / tomorrow)
[17:30] <cm13g09> Ah
[17:30] <cm13g09> OK
[17:31] <DJ3AK> Observation with B-balloons: when near horizon: signals on vertical antenna are much stronger than horizontal polarization, when balloon is slow, but horizontal pol. is significantly better than vert. when balloon is > 100 km/h. Inclination due to high alttitude winds? Would explain solar fluctuation also.
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[17:39] <F1VJQ> Oh no he isn't!!
[17:40] <F1VJQ> dj3ak maybe the payload is trailing the envelope horizontally!
[17:41] <DJ3AK> F1VJQ yes, I guess that explains it
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[17:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> Anybody have a dial for B-66 yet
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[17:56] <F1VJQ> That would be a good one for the bot !dial b-66
[17:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> !payload B-66
[17:57] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Payload 03B-66 10(705b) - 03434.5 MHz USB 03DominoEX with speed 0316
[18:02] <F1VJQ> B-66 is stubbornly staying out of range for me at 560km.
[18:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> Should appear for me in the next few minutes as its a sea path
[18:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah yes your just a bit to far South
[18:03] <F1VJQ> I can do 445km on 434MHz ... so still some way off
[18:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> Trouble is Contestia could probably pickit up before my eyes do, if one new the freq. close enough
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[18:12] <F1VJQ> Geoff-G8DHE quite possible, but I heard Contestia by ear an hour before decoding when B-63 flew south of here on its first circumnavigation
[18:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes indeed, still need to be inside bandwidth however!
[18:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-64 was a couple of KHz low of channel when I first found it
[18:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> watching the timing from those already Rx
[18:14] <F1VJQ> I have the IC-475 on scan between 434.490 and 434.510
[18:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> I can see something around 434.491-2 but it might just be ISM stuff
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[18:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> dev88 isn't alwats getting it either
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[18:17] <lz1dev> !hysplit b-66
[18:17] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: HYSPLIT for 03b-66 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140825-16_198788_B66.gif
[18:18] <F1VJQ> Geoff-G8DHE still 540km away but I have my 2m igate listening out!
[18:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[18:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> not sure anything will get thru the rain to the Troposphere!
[18:18] <lz1dev> !whereis b-66
[18:19] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03B-66 was over 03Celtic Sea 10(49.3301,-5.1795) at 0313458 meters
[18:19] <lz1dev> !ping b-66
[18:19] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03B-66 was 033 minutes ago
[18:19] <F1VJQ> Geoff-G8DHE It is a raining here not :-)
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[18:20] <F1VJQ> To misquote Hancock
[18:20] <cm13g09> F1VJQ: it seems to have stopped in Southampton
[18:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its is over the balloon turn on the Google radar!
[18:20] <cm13g09> although it's been raining *all day*
[18:21] <G0HDI> Nothing here yet.
[18:21] <F1VJQ> cm13g09 This is where the wet stuff is atm > http://home.hccnet.nl/uffe.noucha/weurope.htm
[18:21] <DJ3AK> no rain :-) but it may be 3 o'clock in the morning when it comes into range here...
[18:21] <cm13g09> F1VJQ: ah
[18:21] <cm13g09> yeah
[18:21] <cm13g09> that's moved off me then
[18:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-66_20140719/index.php?ind=1
[18:22] <cm13g09> just about
[18:23] <mattbrejza> cm13g09: just decoded, pretty weak though
[18:23] <mattbrejza> i cant imagine your antenna is 6 stories up
[18:23] <cm13g09> mattbrejza: I was talking about the weather
[18:24] <mattbrejza> oh lol
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[18:24] <mattbrejza> irc needs a /tldr command to summerise the last x minutes
[18:24] <cm13g09> lol
[18:24] <fsphil> life needs that feature
[18:25] <F1VJQ> !lastfiveminutes
[18:25] <fsphil> would make relationships much simpler
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[18:25] <F1VJQ> fsphil yes - you would see an argument coming!
[18:25] <LeoBodnar> 1400 audio on 434.500 http://tempsdr.suws.org.uk:82/
[18:26] <Laurenceb__> what from?
[18:27] <mattbrejza> aliens
[18:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> decoding
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[18:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> right in among the ISM noises :(
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[18:36] <mclane_> partial decode of b66 using SUWS WebSDR
[18:36] <Lunar_Lander> hi Bill
[18:37] <G0HDI> I hate the West. I'm as deaf as aq very deaf person in that direction *sigh*
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[18:39] <Maxell> G0HDI: i like the west :D
[18:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> Me too except ISM is there but its just appeared audible so improving!
[18:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yea
[18:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> 348.5Km not my best
[18:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> right the rest is automatic now
[18:41] <G0HDI> Oh no! , now someone is trying to wake up he local Echolink node to wind me up too. Life's a bitch!
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[18:46] <mclane_> b66 fine and nicely decodable on suws now
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[18:58] <Rebounder> wow, missed out on b66-action!
[19:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Interference gone
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[19:09] <mclane_> Hysplit is indicating that B66 will fly over my head tonight - so I will leave my RX running tonight
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[19:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-66_20140719/Semi_polar_201408251920.jpg
[19:21] <Laurenceb__> the finishing line
[19:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Indeed, keep on having to extend it South!
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[19:26] <LeoBodnar> is this 30 degrees cap?
[19:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> The Red circle yes its in the text underneath the Polar Image http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-66_20140719/index.php?ind=3
[19:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> I'll try applying it to the other flights after this one
[19:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> darn it interference back again
[19:29] <Rebounder> standard leo-fw on 66?
[19:30] <Rebounder> s/fw/fq
[19:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup my dial says .497523
[19:34] <Laurenceb__> looks like there is no way to make the first B-66 circumnavigation meet FAI spec :-/
[19:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh is it drifting low badly
[19:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes
[19:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> Still drifting low rapidly
[19:38] <Laurenceb__> sunset
[19:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup temp must be falling like B-64
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[19:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> Battery doesn't seem to be holding up as well as B-64 http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/B-66/78c90a7466698cc68b67d7a88196c856#g/solar_panel,_speed,temperature_internal,battery
[19:48] <Laurenceb__> yeah but no clear battery degradation with time
[19:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> possibly not, wa wondering why the drift so much
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[19:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> where are all the trackers tonight ?
[19:56] <G0HDI> I'm here....Think I got pips on 434.4935. .... Yes, at last.
[19:56] <LeoBodnar> no launches :D
[19:57] <tweetBot> @G8DHE: HAB UPDATE: B-66 coming up on the meridian Track http://t.co/IDx3nW8E2P #ukhas #hab #hamr #amsat http://t.co/Tr2tUvbX0t
[19:59] <Laurenceb__> does B-66 have to pass launch longitude, or longitude at last circumnavigation?
[19:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Everybody is probably drying themselves off after the bankholiday!
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[20:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> I would guess you could say either Launch or any other merdian it had passed before ....?
[20:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> Interesting the Freq has risen before it started transmitting, must have hit some warmer air ?
[20:02] <Laurenceb__> or something fired up and increased pcb temperature
[20:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not sure there is much else on the PCB is there ?
[20:03] <Laurenceb__> thats one very straight hysplit
[20:03] <Laurenceb__> dunno, ask leo
[20:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> It is isn't it! no keyhole thru the East end of the Med. on this loop!
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[20:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> Looks like FB is not responding ....
[20:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> what a shame
[20:12] <F1VJQ_away> G0HDI is dial still 434.4935 pse?
[20:12] <G0HDI> Very feint on 434.493
[20:13] <F1VJQ_away> OK thanks
[20:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> Missed the last two pairs
[20:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> its driffting badly
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[20:20] <G0HDI> Just saw some data on waterfall at 434.498959 before it was wiped out by Echolink node. Pips were much lower?
[20:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes drifting down still my dial is .495
[20:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> +1Khz
[20:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah both that time
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[20:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> Lot of fading for me very slow but quite deep at times
[20:31] <mattbrejza> its 497 here
[20:31] <F1VJQ_away> how are the dial freqs so different?
[20:32] <F1VJQ_away> 493, 495, 497 ???
[20:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> I'm using dongle so =/- 1KHz is good!
[20:32] <F1VJQ_away> dongle freqs are not good enough !!
[20:32] <mattbrejza> this is an 817 so its pretty much dead on to 100Hz or so
[20:33] <G0HDI> I got a partial (Red) just now on .4985
[20:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> You can only adjust them by 1ppm
[20:33] <F1VJQ_away> OK Matt thanks
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[20:44] <G0HDI> This what I've got to contend with on top of B-66 frequency http://g0hdi.blogspot.co.uk/
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[20:47] <malgar> I have a slow connection and tracker webistes don't load the balloons.. what could I do?
[20:47] <mattbrejza> !whereis b-64
[20:47] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: 03B-64 was over 03Kargopolskiy rayon, Arkhangelsk Oblast, Russia 10(61.6213,38.2415) at 0312258 meters
[20:47] <mattbrejza> or google earth
[20:48] <malgar> !whereis b-66
[20:48] <SpacenearUS> 03malgar: 03B-66 was over 03France 10(49.3395,-1.8472) at 0313485 meters
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[20:48] <malgar> "was".. when?
[20:48] <mattbrejza> !ping B-66
[20:48] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: Last contact with 03B-66 was 03a minute ago
[20:49] <malgar> :D
[20:49] <Laurenceb__> !ping B-64
[20:49] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb__: Last contact with 03B-64 was 03a day ago
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[20:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> I've modified the FAI circle a trifle to Lat 85° Long 100° slightly more clearence is all.
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[20:51] <N2NXZ> Having an issue with the checksum as the tracker is now running.Not sure what the issue is if anyone here can help.
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[20:52] <N2NXZ> http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/ .... [2014-08-25 20:52:15,632] INFO habitat.parser MainThread: All attempts to parse failed
[20:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-66_20140719/B-66_201408252051.jpg
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[20:57] <adamgreig> N2NXZ: guess your checksum is not valid then
[20:57] <adamgreig> does dl-fldigi light up green when it gets it?
[20:59] <N2NXZ> No,but tested this before and it turned green awhile back
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[20:59] <DL7AD> evening
[21:00] <N2NXZ> Receiving clean strings as before
[21:00] <N2NXZ> $$$$$N2NXZ-7,71,21:00:03,43.326115,-77.766510,81.9,4978.85,2,0.67,9*C49D
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[21:01] <daveake> check that you're not including any of the $'s in the crc calc
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[21:01] <N2NXZ> I will look,but did not see that in there.I just put N2NXZ-7
[21:02] <G0HDI> Gordon Bennet!, I just got a green.
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[21:03] <Lunar_Lander> hi DL7AD
[21:03] <DL7AD> hi Lunar_Lander
[21:04] <G0HDI> I can go to bed happy lol. Been monitoring since 16:00 local
[21:05] <N2NXZ> Not really sure what is wrong,this was tested online before using a payload_configuration document
[21:06] <daveake> It'll be whatever changed
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[21:06] <daveake> Paste your code up if you're stuck
[21:10] <N2NXZ> Nothing has been changed since the last test when it was working.It has sat here since while working on the beacon transmitter.It worked and showed on the map before.Has to be the flight doc
[21:11] <adamgreig> this is all well before flight docs and payload docs
[21:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not long now for B-66
[21:11] <N2NXZ> Looks like this as received - $$$$$N2NXZ-7,112,21:10:39,43.326096,-77.766479,81.0,4978.85,2,0.67,9*7A42
[21:11] <adamgreig> if the checksum is incorrect and it's CRC16-CCITT then it is just computing a checksum over the sentence
[21:11] <Rebounder> any suws-guys awake?
[21:11] <craag_philcrump> Rebounder: o/
[21:12] <adamgreig> N2NXZ: for «N2NXZ-7,112,21:10:39,43.326096,-77.766479,81.0,4978.85,2,0.67,9» I get the checksum 2956
[21:12] <adamgreig> not 7A42
[21:12] <N2NXZ> Great,this test has been going for 2 days to test batteries and timing.
[21:12] <daveake> Post your code
[21:13] <N2NXZ> gotta dig
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[21:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> Congrats LeoBodnar and B-66 and yet another circumnavigation !
[21:17] <Rebounder> craag_philcrump: some stupid missed permissions... websdr working!!!
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[21:19] <mattbrejza> oh and thats a lap
[21:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-66_20140719/B-66_201408252119.jpg
[21:19] <LeoBodnar> oh, ta, that was quick
[21:19] <mattbrejza> http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/2/27545/956523-lakitumkdd.jpg
[21:20] <craag_philcrump> Rebounder: Good to hear :)
[21:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> So how long can you keep this up Leo!
[21:20] <F1VJQ_away> Congrats LeoBodnar - not received B-66 this evening... just a small window at 36km, but I can't find the pips!!
[21:22] <tweetBot> @G8DHE: HAB UPDATE: B-66 completes its second circumnavigation. Congrats Leo Bodnar! #ukhas #hamr #hab http://t.co/90Ru66EC0k
[21:25] <N2NXZ> Where do you want me to paste all that code?
[21:25] <N2NXZ> Email it?
[21:25] <LeoBodnar> pastebin.com/
[21:25] <Upu_M0UPU> N2NXZ how many preceeding $$$'s are you using ?
[21:25] <mightymik> grats again!
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[21:26] <LeoBodnar> thanks chaps
[21:26] <Lunar_Lander> N2NXZ, since I am using five dollar signs, reception works much better
[21:26] <Lunar_Lander> ah sorry
[21:26] <Lunar_Lander> that was for Anthony
[21:26] <Lunar_Lander> and *since I started to use
[21:26] <daveake> If you use a really crap radio transmitter you may need 50 of them
[21:26] <Lunar_Lander> LeoBodnar, congratulations again
[21:27] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:27] <Upu_M0UPU> ah 5
[21:27] <Upu_M0UPU> check your crc checking code isn't expecting 2
[21:27] Action: daveake waits
[21:27] <N2NXZ> 5 $$$$$
[21:27] <db_g6gzh> daveake: 8-)
[21:27] <daveake> ah :)
[21:28] <db_g6gzh> and congratulations again Leo
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> Upu_M0UPU, yes I adjusted the code for the crc where it starts to engage
[21:30] <daveake> if only there were a way of automating where the crc calculation starts
[21:31] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[21:31] <Lunar_Lander> some thing that recognizes dollar signs and sorts them out
[21:31] <daveake> :-)
[21:31] <daveake> Or do the crc then add the $'s
[21:31] <Lunar_Lander> yea :)
[21:31] <daveake> either
[21:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-64 successful FAI circumnavigation on first loop http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-64_20140712/B-64_Circumnavigation_1_FAI_circle_85_100.jpg
[21:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-66 successful FAI circumnavigation on second loop http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-66_20140719/B-66_circumnavigation_2_FAI_circle_85_100.jpg
[21:31] <F1VJQ_away> Oops I had just a small typo... the small window was 436km away
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[21:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> evening All
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[21:43] <MaXimaN> Wow, B-66 back? Awesome
[21:44] <MaXimaN> Congrats Leo!
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> !position B-66
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[21:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> Leo has his own allmost-sattelite constellation ;-)
[21:45] <F1VJQ_away> !whereis B-66
[21:45] <SpacenearUS> 03F1VJQ_away: 03B-66 is over 03English Channel 10(49.4698,-0.3449) at 0313445 meters
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[21:46] <adamgreig> wrong bot :(
[21:46] <MaXimaN> snus is going to kill browsers if these B balloons keep going ;)
[21:48] <MaXimaN> Oh wow, I can receive
[21:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> !whereis SP9UOB
[21:49] <SpacenearUS> 03SP9UOB-Tom: I haven't got a clue
[21:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> ;-
[21:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> )
[21:49] <meatmanek> !whereis kc9iae-3
[21:49] <SpacenearUS> 03meatmanek: I haven't got a clue
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[21:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> !whereis my_wallet
[21:49] <SpacenearUS> 03SP9UOB-Tom: I haven't got a clue
[21:49] <meatmanek> wow, two circumnavigations
[21:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> doesnt work ;-)
[21:50] <meatmanek> that's super cool.
[21:50] <meatmanek> what balloon type is B-66 using?
[21:50] <meatmanek> (and is there a website for this)
[21:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> meatmanek: custom made PE foil
[21:51] <meatmanek> PE = polyethylene?
[21:51] <MaXimaN> Is it my imagination or does B-66 have a long time between contestia broadcasts?
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[21:51] <MaXimaN> Longer than B-64, that is
[21:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> 4 minutes
[21:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> same as B-64
[21:51] <MaXimaN> So it is my imagination :)
[21:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> meatmanek: yes http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-64/B-64-envelope.jpg
[21:52] <meatmanek> also are these B-* balloons from the same people?
[21:52] <daveake> person - LeoBodnar
[21:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/
[21:52] <MaXimaN> Damn
[21:52] <MaXimaN> I think it's just on the edge of my receiving range
[21:52] <db_g6gzh> imagine if there was more than one of him ...
[21:52] Action: MaXimaN kicks his coax again
[21:52] <meatmanek> impressive
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[21:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> english speaking guys: what is the difference between "foil" and "film" ?
[21:53] <MaXimaN> Basically the same
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[21:54] <MaXimaN> foil is usually metallic coated/coloured
[21:54] <MaXimaN> Like aluminium foil
[21:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> oh, i see
[21:54] <MaXimaN> But it's basically a plastim film
[21:54] <MaXimaN> plastic*
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[21:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> MaXimaN: thanks :-)
[21:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> in polish word "film" means movie
[21:55] <MaXimaN> Here too
[21:57] <MaXimaN> Okay
[21:57] <MaXimaN> Think I have this tuned
[21:57] <MaXimaN> Low s/n but it decoded some of the last packet
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[21:57] <meatmanek> that map on B-66 only shows like 1.5 circumnavigations
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[21:58] <Maxell> same in .nl
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[21:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> The first loop of B-66 had data missing between Estern Russia and Eastern Pacific see here http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-66_20140719/B-66_circumnavigation_2_FAI_circle_85_100.jpg
[22:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> and also over the atlantic until the Black sea
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[22:00] <MaXimaN> Decoding
[22:00] <MaXimaN> It's going to be a red
[22:00] <MaXimaN> Damn. So close :)
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[22:13] <MaXimaN> Green \o/
[22:14] <Maxell> Why is no one RXing?
[22:14] <Maxell> Is it so weak?
[22:14] <MaXimaN> 207.8km, 2.8 elev
[22:14] <Maxell> dial dial dial pse
[22:14] <Maxell> :P
[22:14] <MaXimaN> 435.500
[22:14] <MaXimaN> 434.500 rather
[22:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> mines just a tad under .496
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[22:15] <MaXimaN> Yeah - 434.497 here
[22:15] <Maxell> Geoff-G8DHE: rig or rtl-sdr?
[22:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> rtl-sdr
[22:15] <Maxell> MaXimaN: 434.500 is not the dial
[22:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> but within +/- 1KHz
[22:15] <Maxell> with current shift
[22:15] <Maxell> fuuu
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[22:16] <MaXimaN> 434.497.560 with a 2800 bandwidth is working for me
[22:16] <MaXimaN> Well, just. It's a feint signal
[22:16] <Maxell> ok have to sleep
[22:16] <Maxell> i will set 434.497.560 decoder at 2k
[22:17] <LeoBodnar> thanks guys
[22:17] <Maxell> yes MaXimaN i can hear it too
[22:17] <Maxell> awww yes
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[22:17] <MaXimaN> Leo: No problem
[22:18] <MaXimaN> It's $5 per packet.
[22:18] <MaXimaN> We accept PayPal
[22:18] <Maxell> heard the rxid tune
[22:18] <Maxell> ok now lets get some sleep
[22:18] <MaXimaN> I can just hear the pips
[22:19] <MaXimaN> Leo: Are you going to EMF this year?
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[22:22] <LeoBodnar> maybe, haven't decided yet
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[22:23] <MaXimaN> Still seems to be tickets available
[22:23] <WB8ELK> congrats Leo on another fine 2nd lap.
[22:23] <MaXimaN> Hmmm... that's strange
[22:23] <fsphil> I need to time my holidays better, try and get to the next emfcamp
[22:23] <MaXimaN> 9.5 mins since last rx, I can hear the beeps, but haven't heard a packet
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[22:26] <LeoBodnar> thanks Bill
[22:26] <LeoBodnar> what was last battery voltage reading?
[22:27] <LeoBodnar> Contestia shuts down below 3.2 volts
[22:27] <db_g6gzh> 3.32
[22:27] <Upu> battery getting knackered ?
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[22:27] <simium> Hi... someone could help me with Arduino and SSDV?
[22:27] <LeoBodnar> it's 13.5km and the Winter is coming
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[22:29] <simium> I'm sending telemetry at 50 baud almost flawlessly, but when I send an image I don't receive anything
[22:29] <daveake> Using 8 bit and 2 stop bits ?
[22:30] <simium> 7bit and 2 stop bits
[22:30] <simium> also at 50 bps
[22:30] <daveake> Well that won't work
[22:30] <simium> damn
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[22:30] <daveake> SSDV is 8 bit data
[22:30] <simium> alright
[22:30] <simium> I will check that
[22:30] <simium> thanks Dave
[22:33] <Lunar_Lander> good night!
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[22:33] <fsphil> night LL
[22:34] <daveake> nnLL
[22:34] <fsphil> dltbbb
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[22:37] <WB8ELK> Is there a WebSDR receiver online in the UK or Europe that can tune Leo's balloon?
[22:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://tempsdr.suws.org.uk:82/
[22:37] <WB8ELK> many thanks
[22:37] <LeoBodnar> it's a bit drifty at the moment
[22:38] <LeoBodnar> due to transmitter self-heating
[22:38] <LeoBodnar> increasing "Tune margin" in modem settings to 100 helps
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[22:39] <simium> no luck, Dave
[22:39] <simium> I still receive telemetry, the SSDV RX window doesn't show anything tho
[22:40] <LeoBodnar> my current setting on websdr is 434497 kHz
[22:40] <simium> the telemetry reception is not perfect, but I'd expect something, even jpeg garbage... .(
[22:43] <fsphil> you don't see gibberish on the text window?
[22:44] <daveake> So you're now sending all 8 bits of each SSDV byte?
[22:44] <simium> yes
[22:44] <daveake> How are you producing the SSDV data ?
[22:44] <simium> I'm using code from Arko's CUBEX project
[22:44] <simium> based on Phil's
[22:44] <simium> (hi Phil!)
[22:45] <daveake> Telemetry should be perfect at 50 baud
[22:45] <simium> to re-build the picture must it go to the internet and back?
[22:45] <daveake> no
[22:45] <simium> ok
[22:45] <daveake> The SSDV data is in packets of 256 bytes
[22:46] <fsphil> if you're not seeing the gibberish text data, it sounds like it's not even sending packets
[22:46] <daveake> if a packet is decoded OK (and it doesn't need to be received 100% for that to happen) then you'll see a block appear in the SSDV window
[22:46] <simium> alright
[22:47] <daveake> As Phil says you should see the SSDV bytes as garbage where the telemetry normally scrolls
[22:47] <simium> I'm using a funcube dongle for receiving, maybe it's not a perfect setup
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[22:47] <daveake> What O/S ?
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[22:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> Can you screen grab when the image data is being sent and show us ?
[22:49] <simium> Win7
[22:50] <simium> sure, one moment
[22:52] <simium> http://imgur.com/e9BDxu5
[22:52] <simium> I've started seeing gibberish right now
[22:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> Your overloading the audio the red dimond
[22:53] <daveake> shift is too low in dl-fldigi
[22:53] <simium> really? I already had to move the payload to another room cause SDR# goes crazy if they are together
[22:54] <simium> what does that mean, Dave?
[22:54] <daveake> If it's still dodgy after fixing those then check the timing of your RTTY. Are you using a timer ISR or a delay?
[22:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> turn it down till green and also th bandwidth is too narrow for the modem the red bars at the top should be wider than the width of the carriers
[22:54] <simium> I'm using delay cause I'm using an Arduino Micro and it's a PITA
[22:54] <daveake> ???????????????
[22:55] <daveake> It's not hard
[22:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> No the AUDIO level is to high turn the volume down that feeds dl-fldigi
[22:56] <daveake> And you should be seeing waaaaay more binary data so something is up there
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[22:57] <daveake> I suspect you're sending zeroes instead of SSDV data
[22:57] <daveake> cancel that you're not sending anything
[22:58] <simium> If I turn down the volume then the right bar disappears and I only see the left one
[22:58] <daveake> Your sentences are 15 seconds apart
[22:58] <daveake> If you were sending SSDV as well they'd be much further apart
[22:58] <simium> Yes, for telemetry I send data 15 seconds apart, then for every 10 sentences I send one picture
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[22:59] <fsphil> especially at 50 baud
[22:59] <daveake> Except you don't, 'cos it's not appearing
[23:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> Think you have many levels wrong, first you need to reduce the received signal strength, then you can get the audio level right
[23:00] <simium> yeah, it looks like that
[23:00] <simium> Geoff-G8DHE: ok, I'll start there
[23:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> if its fading out when you turn the audio down you may well not even be tuned in correctly
[23:00] <daveake> ^ this I suspect is true
[23:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> it will be overlaoding the front end and causing all sorts of noise and bars
[23:01] <daveake> That's what it looks like
[23:01] <daveake> For future reference, you don't have to send an entire image at once. You can send 1 packet (256 bytes) then send a telemetry string then send the next packet, etc
[23:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> its normal to remove any aerials whislt testing as well!
[23:02] <simium> thanks guys
[23:03] <simium> I'm just learning for my first flight, this is all new to me
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[23:03] <simium> this is SDR# at the moment, even me suspects something is f*cked up http://imgur.com/pOKp2N4
[23:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh yes well overloaded, put the Tx in a biscuit tin
[23:04] <simium> LOL ok
[23:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> and close the lid tightly!
[23:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> Have you tracked any ballooon flights yet ?
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[23:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right I must off, the XYL is back tomorrow so have to cleanup the house befoe she gets back! AFK
[23:08] <simium> nope
[23:08] <simium> I've tried to track cubesats, no luck (of course)
[23:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> It helps if you can because you'll then know what the signals sjould look like etc.
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[23:10] <simium> I've seen several videos in youtube, that beep beep thing is quite familiar
[23:10] <simium> but I'm not able to hear it the same
[23:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its just that when you do it for real, there will be other signals, interference and so on that
[23:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> make it for real, rather than a setup video demo.
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[23:51] <simium> why is it that the beeps are not sharp? Is it because the arduino is not generating the proper tones?
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