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[02:00] <SHARP-SATS> B64 visiting Alaska. Crazy how Leo's floaters "disapear" then "reapear".
[02:01] <SHARP-SATS> Like my p's.
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[02:04] <ian_> That would be B's
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[04:14] <suyash> hi hw can we develop a low cost ballon.
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[05:51] <f5opv> Hi everybody, m0xer-4 over Alaska on aprs.fi
[05:52] <f5opv> No longer trackins on Spacenear.us ?
[05:52] <x-f> B-balloons have a separate page on spacenearus, there's a link in the infobox
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[06:02] <Maxell> f5opv: or try the new page: http://habitat.habhub.org/mobile-tracker/?filter=B-64
[06:03] <f5opv> Thank's a lot
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[06:08] <lz1dev> updated hmt, log data should show up on the map immediatelly, no need for refresh
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[06:14] <Maxell> lz1dev: awesome
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[06:34] <Maxell> LeoBodnar: how do you decide what backlog point should be transmitted on APRS?
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[06:35] <Maxell> Is there fancy filtering happening, so old data rolls off?
[06:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I think its a simple circular log file 5 or 10 day varies between flights
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[06:47] <Maxell> Geoff-G8DHE-M: so just delayed replay of normal flight
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[06:48] <Maxell> But wou;ldnt it lag behind more and more?
[06:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No its only logged every hour I thunk
[06:50] <Maxell> ah
[06:50] <Maxell> no
[06:50] <Maxell> hmm
[06:50] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> or at least a lot less frequently.
[06:51] <LeoBodnar> every 2 hours and it is just a circular buffer with oldest points droppping off first
[06:52] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah right
[06:52] <Maxell> Looks quite smooth
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[06:54] <Maxell> for one datapoint evey 2 hours
[06:54] <Maxell> slow balloon is slow
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[07:05] <tjanos> good morning!
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[07:06] <tjanos> Leo, congrats for the B-64 flyght!
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[07:06] <tjanos> It seems, it will reach in the next 3 days the North Pole!
[07:07] <tjanos> http://www.ready.noaa.gov/hypubout/13133_trj001.gif
[07:09] <tjanos> and will make some circumnavigations aroud there
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[07:11] <Maxell> aka lost for ever
[07:12] <tjanos> NO! it is similar as a bottle with message on the see... sometimes it will appeas again and again
[07:16] <tjanos> By the way, is it known, how Leo decode the stored previous coordinats? On the aprs.fi we can see only the binary data in the comments: http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&limit=1000&call=M0XER-4&view=decoded
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[07:23] <ian_> Yes, format = compressed. LB Magic decompression tool set perhaps :)
[07:23] <cyclops> hi! Need help, i just launched balloon (ALESP)
[07:24] <cyclops> Bu no predicted path is showing
[07:24] <cyclops> I did the flight doc and it is approved
[07:25] <tjanos> Ok, I made some tries with base91 tool to decode, not with real success. Maybe is it not standard base91 format?
[07:25] <ian_> Best keep your eye on it cyclops . . . not sure if the predicted path feature may have been removed in last couple of days. Lots of changes have been made, so it may be a (temporary) casualty.
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[07:26] <ian_> Not sure if it varies from tracker to tracker though.
[07:26] <cyclops> ian_: damm
[07:26] <cyclops> ian_: do you know who can i contact to make sure?
[07:28] <ian_> Upu or Craag would likely know. I guess that a lot of people are starting to prepare to travel down to the conference today, for tomorrow.
[07:28] <ian_> ping Upu
[07:28] <Upu> morning
[07:28] <cyclops> hi upu
[07:29] <cyclops> I did a second launch, but predictor seems not to work
[07:29] <Upu> err not sure
[07:29] <Upu> it it should
[07:29] <cyclops> ALESP, currently
[07:30] <Maxell> ALESP? was it announced?
[07:30] <Maxell> what freq?
[07:30] <cyclops> it is in spain
[07:31] <Maxell> Ah
[07:31] <cyclops> Upu , Anything I/you can do?
[07:31] <mfa298> looking at it yesterday I think the predicted path part isn't proking properly for most payloads (but there was still data for a couple of payloads
[07:31] <Upu> checking
[07:31] <lz1dev> Upu: showing an error, no dataset
[07:31] <Upu> hmm
[07:31] <Upu> ping DanielRichman
[07:31] <lz1dev> :D
[07:32] <LeoBodnar> what's that? [08:23] <ian_> Yes, format = compressed. LB Magic decompression tool set perhaps :)
[07:32] <cyclops> thanks Upu
[07:32] <mfa298> cyclops: presumably you know the approx burst height and how fast it's going up so you could plug the numbers into predict.habhub.org
[07:32] <cyclops> i did mfa298 , I have it opened, but I'd like real time prediction
[07:33] Action: mfa298 wonders how we coped a year or two ago when we didn't have the live prediction
[07:34] <x-f> it's so easily to get used to comfort :)
[07:34] <cyclops> :P
[07:35] <Maxell> I agree
[07:35] <Maxell> live prediction = heaven
[07:36] <LeoBodnar> someday we'll get used to landing spot at altitude above msl :D
[07:36] <LeoBodnar> could be an issue for Spain
[07:37] <tjanos> I think, a prediction "per definitionem" deal with the future, not present (real) time
[07:37] <LeoBodnar> or maybe it is already in. updates and improvements were rolling in thick and fast recently
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[07:38] <Maxell> altitude above msl?
[07:38] <ian_> cyclops, if you can keep it afloat for eight days and steer it towards Alcalar de Henares, Meco you can splash it down in the pool while I have a beer there.
[07:38] <Maxell> Height above mean sea level ah
[07:38] <ian_> Madrid is quite high for example.
[07:38] <ian_> No where near cyclops though of course.
[07:40] <mfa298> Maxell: I'm guessing that's a strange concept for you ;)
[07:41] <cyclops> ian_: the project was made thanks to the Alcala De Henares univ
[07:42] <LeoBodnar> actually in aviation hight and altitude are different things
[07:42] <LeoBodnar> iirc
[07:43] <LeoBodnar> to reduce communication ambiguity
[07:43] <ian_> Certainly good to see balloon activity in Spain. Let's grow the network. QNH is good for me Leo
[07:44] <cyclops> yeah, this is my second launch
[07:44] <tjanos> LeoBodnar: we changed some words about your aprs comment field with ian_
[07:45] <LeoBodnar> ah, it's compressed log entries from the past if it's a long comment
[07:45] <tjanos> I see on aprs.fi it decode only the packet itself but not the comment fileds: http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&limit=1000&call=M0XER-4&view=decoded
[07:46] <LeoBodnar> two letter comments are compressed timestamp of the position
[07:46] <tjanos> I made some trues to decomress it wit base91 tool, but whitout success
[07:46] <LeoBodnar> i have a script running here that get the comment data from APRS-IS, decoes it and sends to habitat
[07:46] <tjanos> tries
[07:47] <LeoBodnar> hold on
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[07:47] <tjanos> Ok, we can see all the decoded packet if we get it freom habitat database
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[07:48] <ian_> cyclops: do you have a balloon project web page?
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[07:49] <cyclops> ian_: it is in bitcointalk, one sec
[07:49] <LeoBodnar> tjanos: here is my script in awk http://leobodnar.com/balloons/files/runAPRS-with-backlog.awk
[07:50] <ian_> Awk, was my favourite scripting language a couple of years ago.
[07:50] <LeoBodnar> if you find "# backlog entry" section you can probably guess the compressed comment structure
[07:52] <tjanos> Thank you very much, I will try it...
[07:52] <mfa298> awk is a great tool. Although I tend to use sed more.
[07:54] <ian_> Never really got my head around SED and would like to have understood Perl a little better . . . to say the least.
[07:54] <LeoBodnar> me too
[07:54] <Maxell> mfa298: yes how does that work... My antenna is 14 meters HAAT/ASL/ground
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[07:55] <LeoBodnar> HAAT is confusing
[07:55] <LeoBodnar> on a 1000ft hill your antenna is 3ft HAAT
[07:55] <LeoBodnar> not 1003ft HAAT
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[07:56] <tjanos> LeoBodnar: which base91 tool do you use in the script?
[07:56] <ian_> Looks like cyclops may not have far to walk or at least a walk in the opposite direction from that of the initial flight. A homing balloon :)
[07:57] <Maxell> LeoBodnar: "works"
[07:57] <Maxell> LeoBodnar: for us Dutchies it's simple... How high is your antenna mast :P
[07:57] <cyclops> yes ian_ the balloon is heading where we reside :
[07:58] <ian_> Lol. It looks like the winds are quite simple for cyclops, they seem to be one way or the other following the valley(?) Like a cat coming home for feeding.
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[08:00] <cyclops> ian_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=739313.new#new
[08:00] <cyclops> thats the announcement, you can find more info in the linked threads there :)
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[08:00] <ian_> If you make the water to your East South East, then burst, it will probably land in your garden. Thanks for link/s
[08:01] <LeoBodnar_> tjanos: there is a function at the bottom of the script
[08:01] <tjanos> oh,, thanks
[08:02] <cyclops> ian_ in fact this launch has been fully funded with Bitcoins :P
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[08:02] <LeoBodnar_> also notice that you need to split the comment into chuncks before decoding base91
[08:02] <LeoBodnar_> chunks
[08:02] <tjanos> It seems, it send the decoded comments to the habitat... not for playing L-(
[08:03] <LeoBodnar_> lol
[08:04] <ian_> Doesn't look like you have much call for a predictor from the look of it cyclops. Just a question of how far . . . it's travelling at quite a lick though.
[08:04] <tjanos> I found notice, the compress, used in aprs not conform with the satnadard base91... is it true?
[08:04] <cyclops> ian_ we are heading to the predicted launch zone
[08:05] <LeoBodnar_> there are different ways of base91 compression, just use the one in APRS docs
[08:05] <LeoBodnar_> it's very simple
[08:06] <ian_> Once it bursts, then I expect that it will start travelling West North West as it hits the lower air stream, so ideally it will get to the water before burst. What is your anticipated burst altitude?
[08:07] <LeoBodnar_> you can comment out the lines "system ("./submit_habitat" )" and it won't send anything
[08:07] <LeoBodnar_> comment is #
[08:08] <cyclops> ian_: 30km
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[08:08] <cyclops> ian_: based on my last launch, same components same tracker, same balloon, and parachute
[08:09] <tjanos> It is OK, but it seems, it start to search something on your filesystem
[08:10] <ian_> Very good. What is the general terrain like, open scrub or a bit rocky? What tracker (make up of).
[08:10] <cyclops> Terrain is full of olive trees
[08:10] <cyclops> not very rough
[08:10] <cyclops> Tracker is Habduino by Upu
[08:10] <cyclops> Unit #3
[08:10] <cyclops> I was the first to test it in a flight, las year
[08:11] <ian_> Rgr, looks like ALESP is rolling the direction dice again.
[08:12] <cyclops> predictor working!!!
[08:12] <cyclops> yees
[08:13] <ian_> cyclops: Working with a upu breakout board is a lot easier than dealing with the chip direct for the first few trackers. My friends attention level suggest that there will be losses in our program :(
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[08:15] <cyclops> ian_: I was young and inexperienced
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[08:15] <ian_> I wish that I was able to say that. What's your first name?
[08:15] <cyclops> ian_: and I had not the time to make it self, neither the knowledge
[08:16] <Maxell> LeoBodnar_: nice script there
[08:17] <cyclops> ian_: Pedro
[08:19] <ian_> Your English suggested that you were a native speaker. My eldest grandson writes English very well and if he keeps it short, I sometimes wonder if it is his father speaking. Coffee coloured Native of Meco.
[08:21] <ian_> Looks like it's intent on doing laps.
[08:21] <cyclops> Oh :P, thanks. I spent some time in an English School here in spain
[08:23] <cyclops> And got the proficiency exam a while ago
[08:23] <ian_> So did some of my son's neighbours, but they didn't take proper advantage of the facilities offered! Seems Science subjects in nieto's school are taught in English, so he has no excuses.
[08:24] <cyclops> Thats really good
[08:25] <cyclops> Lets see how high the balloon goes
[08:25] <cyclops> My record is 31.451 M
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[08:28] <ian_> We are flying throw away beacons at the moment. Economy non-lubricated flight envelope. Tongue in cheek project name "BigJoE" . . . :) Desperately hoping that the Team catch on to the concepts required for tracking. It is going to be an phill struggle though unless they are keeping something secret.
[08:28] <Maxell> cyclops: the waiting game begins& 24611 m
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[08:30] <cyclops> Lets see lets see :P
[08:30] <ian_> cyclops: I can see that you planned on being able to stroll over and pick this one up when it lands. I bet there are a few that would like that sort of luck.
[08:30] <Maxell> cyclops: are you in the chase care right now?
[08:30] <ian_> Sipping a cold cerveza
[08:31] <ian_> Muy frio
[08:31] <cyclops> yes Maxell you see the town called "Alcala La real"?
[08:31] <cyclops> we are there
[08:31] <Maxell> cyclops: get the mobile tracker case car app! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pexat.habhub.chasecartracker
[08:31] <ian_> Patiently waiting ^^^ sip sip sip
[08:31] <cyclops> yes ian_ as there are some rocky mountains here, we selected the launch spot based on predicted landing
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[08:32] <ian_> And the convenience of a handy watering hole
[08:32] <cyclops> :p
[08:32] <cyclops> Maxell: iOS
[08:32] <Maxell> cyclops: lol easy playload recovery is easy
[08:33] <Maxell> Chasing that thing is half the fun!
[08:33] <cyclops> Lets see if we find it easily, heading to predicted landing spot now
[08:34] <Maxell> cyclops: http://habhub.org/mt/ can also work as car-tracker on smartphones
[08:34] <Maxell> See settings tab
[08:34] <cyclops> Ok! Lets try
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[08:35] <Maxell> Nice
[08:37] <cyclops> done
[08:37] <cyclops> do i have to leave safari opened?
[08:39] <Maxell> Not sure how iOS handles it
[08:40] <cyclops> boom
[08:41] <cyclops> look at the predicion
[08:41] <cyclops> woops
[08:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/ALESP_20140815/index.php?ind=2
[08:42] <Maxell> "ALESP_CHASE_chase" :p
[08:42] <Maxell> cyclops: yeah takes a while for the chute to depoly
[08:42] <cyclops> damm it exploded lower than the other
[08:42] <Maxell> :(
[08:49] <cyclops> heading to the landing zone now!
[08:49] <cyclops> reception is really good
[08:49] <cyclops> better than last year's
[08:50] <Maxell> New antenna/receiver?
[08:50] <Maxell> Or better location?
[08:51] <cyclops> better locatio
[08:51] <cyclops> look at the car
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[08:54] <Maxell> cyclops: yep it's moving!
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[08:57] <Maxell> Speed: 39.995998764 km/h
[08:57] <cyclops> where will it land? :P
[08:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> About here http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/ALESP_20140815/index.php?ind=6
[08:59] <cyclops> We are hoping to see it fall
[09:00] <cyclops> now it is behind us
[09:02] <lz1dev> wait for it
[09:02] <lz1dev> you have like 20 minutes before it lands
[09:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> lz1dev, Thought can the prediction be included in the KML file for GE in hmt ?
[09:04] <lz1dev> probably
[09:04] <SpeedEvil> how much gap was there in b64s log between canada and the middle of russia?
[09:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> :-)
[09:04] <SpeedEvil> (days, distance is of course obvious)
[09:04] <lz1dev> what are these tree farms?
[09:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> Olives ?
[09:05] <lz1dev> no idea
[09:05] <lz1dev> massive field of trees
[09:05] <SpeedEvil> i see four farms
[09:05] <lz1dev> fields
[09:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> See the launch site
[09:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Processing factory ?
[09:05] <cyclops> olives
[09:05] <lz1dev> jesus
[09:05] <lz1dev> so much olives
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[09:06] <cyclops> launch site is full of factories
[09:06] <cyclops> looks like we have to go back
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[09:07] <Maxell> olives. olives everywhere
[09:08] Action: SpeedEvil cues the appropriate Madonna song.
[09:08] <lz1dev> still ~15min out
[09:12] <SpeedEvil> If everything falls just right - b63 could be over fsphil on Tuesday.
[09:12] <cyclops> hum
[09:12] <SpeedEvil> But equally could be off Papa new guinea
[09:12] <cyclops> it seems I can't decrypt
[09:12] <cyclops> RTTY
[09:12] <cyclops> signal strong
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[09:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> Check the audio level - diamond lower right corner
[09:14] <ian_> Can you see it cyclops?
[09:14] <cyclops> no
[09:14] <cyclops> cant decrypt
[09:15] <cyclops> what is the diamond¿
[09:15] <cyclops> is full green
[09:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thats right level goes Red if too loud
[09:16] <cyclops> it can't read a line
[09:16] <cyclops> red lines are wavy
[09:16] <ian_> If your ground is high then it may be slightly short of the predicted landing point
[09:17] <lz1dev> i think he is out of range
[09:17] <lz1dev> payload is behind a tall hill
[09:17] <ian_> I was hoping that Pedro might have had a receiver in the chase car
[09:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> GE thinks it should be visible from car http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/ALESP_20140815/ALESP_201408150915.jpg
[09:17] <MaXimaN> morning all
[09:18] <MaXimaN> Fantastic to B-64 is still flying. Still healthy battery and solar power too looking at the telemetry
[09:18] <MaXimaN> That's awesome
[09:19] <ian_> That's a very impressive image Geoff-G8DHE
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[09:19] <cyclops> receiver is in the car
[09:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> I love playing in GE ;-)
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[09:20] <lz1dev> i'd say landing is somewhere in this zone http://i.imgur.com/KFpdLRY.png
[09:22] <Maxell> MAP_OF_SPAIN.png
[09:22] <cyclops> lost it
[09:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> Tend to agree http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/ALESP_20140815/index.php?ind=8
[09:23] <Maxell> cyclops: not in chase car?
[09:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> very close to landing now probably has
[09:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/ALESP_20140815/index.php?ind=9
[09:24] <lz1dev> its on the side of the heal
[09:24] <lz1dev> right next to the road
[09:24] <lz1dev> heal=hill
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[09:24] <cyclops> It has a GSM tracker
[09:24] <lz1dev> theres a house there ;D
[09:24] <cyclops> I called it
[09:25] <Maxell> Geoff-G8DHE: another telemetry string got in?
[09:25] <cyclops> last string was 1000m
[09:25] <Maxell> ok
[09:25] <lz1dev> thats about ground lvl there
[09:25] <lz1dev> ~800-900m
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[09:25] <Maxell> waut?
[09:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/ALESP_20140815/ALESP_201408150925.jpg
[09:25] <Maxell> how?
[09:28] <Laurenceb> B-64 heading out of range :-/
[09:28] <Laurenceb> going to north pole :P
[09:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> That's what we expected over Finland as well .....
[09:30] <cyclops> heading to landing spot
[09:30] <cyclops> glad I mounted a GSM GPS
[09:30] <cyclops> I just called it
[09:30] <cyclops> and it responded with the position
[09:31] <cyclops> so lets see if we can find it
[09:31] <cyclops> before a farmer picks it
[09:32] <ian_> Need binoculars and watch for people moving towards something on ground . . . follow them!
[09:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> We need the Loons and Liveview not streetview
[09:33] <ian_> Yes, quite a non-Netherlands concept, high ground.
[09:33] <cyclops> in fact we were really near to landing spot, we decided to move to another position
[09:33] <cyclops> we have binoculars, we wanted to see it land :(
[09:33] <ian_> This is where an FPV octocopter would be a great idea.
[09:34] <cyclops> or a plane
[09:34] <craag_philcrump> are we only at octocopters now?
[09:35] <craag_philcrump> I'd have thought dodecacopters would be the rage by now
[09:35] <ian_> As long as you can land it safely, yes . . . brain fart, quadrocopter. It didn't seem quite right but couldn't figure it out until you mentioned it.
[09:37] <ian_> Craag: Hauling honey for: Upu, mfa238, Steve Smith, Dave Akerman, Craag, and fsphil
[09:37] <craag_philcrump> ?
[09:37] <cyclops> receiving again
[09:38] <Maxell> ian_: I am so confused about this "hill" think Spain and UK are struggeling with
[09:38] <LeoBodnar_> ian_: and me!
[09:38] <LeoBodnar_> how much?
[09:38] <LeoBodnar_> please
[09:38] <Maxell> I do not want hills :P
[09:39] <ian_> Good point Leo. I think I added phil to the list. i'll just bung another in the bag.
[09:39] <ian_> Guaranteed Leo, sorry about that.
[09:39] <cyclops> i have signal again
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[09:40] <ian_> This is a gift from my naked girls. They will offer arthritis treatments if you knock on the hive and stand there.
[09:40] <LeoBodnar_> from your bees to my Bs?
[09:40] <ian_> How much . . . 1lb
[09:41] <LeoBodnar_> yeah just a small jar, i'll order in barrels later
[09:41] <ian_> What price . . . Gratis
[09:41] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AxIOtSjXyA
[09:41] <LeoBodnar_> i'll have whatever the others are having
[09:41] <ian_> I could flog you 30lb buckets if you felt flush.
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[09:42] <LeoBodnar_> i might take you up on that!
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[09:43] <ian_> Not for delivery this weekend though. Always willing to discuss it.
[09:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> Those hills between Balloon and chase car look like a metorite impact crater! http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/ALESP_20140815/ALESP_201408150943.jpg
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[09:47] <LeoBodnar_> americur landing spot?
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[09:47] <Laurenceb> hehe
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[09:53] <cyclops> GUYS
[09:53] <cyclops> Found it!
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[09:54] <LeoBodnar_> cool
[09:56] <Laurenceb> hysplit has B-63 over los angles tomorrow...
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[09:58] <LeoBodnar_> don't tell arko
[09:59] <ian_> Congratulations on a good flight and successful recovery. Look forward to your next flight and a few more tracking stations. Speak to those afficianados de radio infect them with the concept. You know they will love it and then you can set up your shop.
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[10:00] <HeathrowT5> nick EwanP
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[10:01] <HeathrowT5> NICK EwanP
[10:01] <qyx_> you missed the /
[10:01] Nick change: HeathrowT5 -> EwanP
[10:03] <EwanP> Thanks lurked long enough on irc but never contributed to the discussion.
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[10:05] <LeoBodnar_> you just did
[10:05] <LeoBodnar_> :D
[10:05] <fsphil> must have been difficult being trapped in Heathrow T5 all this time :)
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[10:09] <amell> just looked at B-64 hysplit. wow. headed for the pole.
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[10:16] <amell> leobodnar: its been a while since i saw awk script last :) used it all the time in the 90s..!
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[10:19] <DL7AD_mobile> Morning
[10:25] <LeoBodnar_> i use it often for quick hackety stuff
[10:34] <SpeedEvil> We need to buy Leo a 'fly anywhere in the world and hire a helicopter' package so he can have a successfull recovery
[10:36] <navrac_work> well at least we could pay over 30days to spread the payments...
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[10:56] <F1VJQ> B-66 and B-64 still flying - can someone put them back on SNUS?
[10:58] <F1VJQ> B-66 was about 300km N of Vladivostok 16hrs ago
[10:58] <ian_> F1VJQ: please see the boxout top left of snus. The B flights have their own tracker filter
[10:59] <F1VJQ> Ah... useful. I missed the change...
[11:00] <ian_> Takes a short while . . . to load but they are all there. Done to avoid congestion and aid snus performans - A relatively new feature,. Why would you think of looking!
[11:01] <SpeedEvil> Following typical recent computing design of 'you have to ask someone to find it'.
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[11:01] <x-f> :>
[11:02] <SpeedEvil> (Though i'm _way_ less critical of amateur stuff done with volunteer time than people that actually think this is a good idea in a professional product
[11:02] <F1VJQ> SpeedEvil I like it! Too much stuff these days is NOT intuitive
[11:03] <SpeedEvil> 'Well - of course you long-press on that un-marked area of the screen'...
[11:04] <F1VJQ> That'll be the area I cannot see on my small netbook 'cos the SNUS logo is there :-)
[11:05] <arko> Woot
[11:05] <arko> Have my chase bus up on habhub
[11:06] <SpeedEvil> arko: Do you also solve crimes in said bus?
[11:06] <arko> Modern day Sherlock
[11:06] <arko> I am
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[11:08] <F1VJQ> I wonder if B-63 has gone down, or is it hiding somewhere in the Pacific?
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[11:15] <SpeedEvil> 63 may be hitting the UK tuesday
[11:16] <SpeedEvil> though not likely
[11:16] <SpeedEvil> It may at that time be practically anywhere
[11:17] <SpeedEvil> From just off Papa new guinea to mexico
[11:17] <SpeedEvil> even the arctic circle
[11:18] <F1VJQ> SpeedEvil it certainly has a way with avoiding APRS!!
[11:18] <SpeedEvil> :)
[11:19] <SpeedEvil> And yes - practically speaking - UK trajectories are doubly unlikely as a) there are only a couple out of 12 of them, and b) they'd have involved going over the USA - so would have been picked up
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[11:39] <Laurenceb_> lol Arko is in a field
[11:39] <arko> This bus is going off re
[11:39] <arko> Off roading
[11:39] <Laurenceb_> oxford tube?
[11:39] <arko> YOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?
[11:40] <arko> Yes
[11:40] <Laurenceb_> heh
[11:40] <Laurenceb_> ive been on that many times :D
[11:40] <arko> Its very nice
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[11:55] <ian_> AFK for a while
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[12:08] <Laurenceb_> everyone seems to be heading down today
[12:08] Action: Laurenceb_ is taking 6am train
[12:08] <Laurenceb_> cuz im crazy
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[12:11] <mattbrejza> remember to turn on your chasecar :)
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[12:33] <tweetBot> @thecraag: Antennas installed at the new SUWS WebSDR site. Find out more in my talk at UKHAS Conference 2014 tomorrow! #ukhas http://t.co/dYbI2cPl70
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[12:38] <amell> lol at all the chase cars appearing
[12:39] <Nickname12> Hi, is there anyone who tried to decode a signal from pi in the sky using SDR?
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[12:39] <daveake> converging
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[12:43] <SHARP-SATS> Will conference papers get published online?
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[12:46] <craag_philcrump> SHARP-SATS: There's not papers - but the recordings of all of the streamed talks will be online sometime after the event.
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[12:46] <mattbrejza> slides will probably go up too
[12:47] <daveake> hmm my chase car appears to be doing 182kph :p
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[12:47] <mattbrejza> not sure ukhas is gonna peer-review papers for the conference for a while
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[12:48] <Laurenceb_> heh
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[12:49] <mattbrejza> we could start a journal
[12:49] <mattbrejza> UKHAS transactions on sending stuffed animals to near space
[12:50] Action: SpeedEvil ponders the conference impact factor.
[12:51] <mattbrejza> probably negative
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[12:55] <adamgreig> mattbrejza: could probably get travel expenses covered to attend if we did :P
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[13:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I see arko has landed in a building site!
[13:06] <Laurenceb_> crossrail
[13:07] <SHARP-SATS> Have a great conference. Off to work.
[13:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Most people do end up being cross with the rail system ...
[13:07] <Laurenceb_> yup
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[13:42] <DL7AD> evening
[13:43] <fsphil> howdy
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[13:43] <DL7AD> fsphil: fine thanks
[13:43] <DL7AD> did you already arrive in london?
[13:45] <fsphil> yea in greenwich now
[13:45] <DL7AD> i will take my flight in two hours
[13:45] <DL7AD> still at home
[13:46] <fsphil> nice
[13:46] <fsphil> I'd have preferred a later flight
[13:46] <craag_philcrump> I believe that's well out of the definition of ISH
[13:46] <fsphil> I'm so sleepy now
[13:46] <DL7AD> okay cu fsphil
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[13:47] <fsphil> HAB: The Gathering
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[13:53] <marcel__> hi. We're flying the postponed ALMA-1 balloon tomorrow. Is there anything I can do to update the habitat flight doc, which is now outdated?
[13:54] <fsphil> nah, just make a new one
[13:54] <marcel__> ok, callsign will be the same. is that ok?
[13:54] <fsphil> yep
[13:55] <tweetBot1> @G7IGB: UKHAS 2014 Conference Live Video Stream: The UKHAS Conference this Saturday, Aug 16... http://t.co/NGAXb4DYms #hamradio #ukhas
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[13:59] <marcel__> ok done. could anyone check and approve 39281565348db6fb1c61ec642af6d7b4 ?
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[14:01] <jonsowman> marcel__: approved. although typically ask in #habhub -- I just happened to be watching here :)
[14:02] <jonsowman> good luck with the flight
[14:02] <marcel__> thanks!
[14:02] <marcel__> ok, I will remember to do habhub next time
[14:02] <jonsowman> it's not a problem, it just might not get noticed in this channel
[14:03] <marcel__> yes it can be crowded
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[14:13] <tweetBot1> @Project_HAB: Watching footage from Eastbourne Arishow - 2x Lancasters flying LIVE NOW! http://t.co/vDjeAAKUwl #ukhas
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[14:14] <fsphil> not terribly on-topic
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[14:24] <mfa298> better suited for #notveryhighaltitude
[14:25] <jonsowman> what's an Arishow
[14:27] <mattbrejza> leo's flown a balloon lower
[14:27] <mattbrejza> so its legit? :P
[14:28] <fsphil> Arishow -- new Game of Thrones spin-off?
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[14:32] <tweetBot1> @AMSAT_UK: Antennas installed at SUWS WebSDR site Watch talk at #UKHAS Conf. Saturday http://t.co/BQHmzPlsq6 http://t.co/Qvbyw7MJeB #hamradio #hamr
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[14:57] <tweetBot1> @AMSAT_UK: SUWS VHF/UHF/Microwave amateur radio WebSDR moves to new site http://t.co/vgjeRYRWeA #amsat #hamradio #hamr #cubesat #ukhas
[15:00] <SpeedEvil> http://habitat.habhub.org/mobile-tracker/
[15:00] <SpeedEvil> What latitude is the top and bottom of the map?
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[15:01] <SpeedEvil> Ah - zooming says 85N
[15:02] <Dan-K2VOL_UK> Hey all
[15:02] <SpeedEvil> hey
[15:02] <Dan-K2VOL_UK> hey speed
[15:02] <Dan-K2VOL_UK> I'm seriously happy to be able to come over again this year :-)
[15:03] <Dan-K2VOL_UK> how've you been SpeedEvil?
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[15:03] <SpeedEvil> Not great.
[15:04] <SpeedEvil> Completing a depressing form for the DWP for monday.
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[15:09] <Dan-K2VOL_UK> Ah I searched it. Where are you based again?
[15:09] <SpeedEvil> UK
[15:09] <Dan-K2VOL_UK> Sure, I mean where in the country
[15:10] <SpeedEvil> Fife
[15:10] <Dan-K2VOL_UK> Hey anthony, say hi to the guys for me today!
[15:10] <myier> it seems to be a bad idea to put mylar around a payload containing antennas, right?
[15:10] <Dan-K2VOL_UK> Ahh that's cool
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> myier: Well - why?
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> myier: Do you mean aluminised mylar?
[15:11] <myier> yes like the survival blankets thing
[15:11] <myier> gold on one side, silver colour on the other
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[15:15] <SpeedEvil> you can remove the aluminium
[15:17] <myier> actually in english it's called space blanket what I'm referring to
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[15:20] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[15:20] <SpeedEvil> Get some lye.
[15:20] <SpeedEvil> Sodium hydroxide
[15:20] <SpeedEvil> make up a fairly concentrated solution - wearing eye and skin protection - and sponge it on the blanket
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[15:23] <Laurenceb_> everyone seems to be leaving plenty of time for the conference :P
[15:23] Action: Laurenceb_ is getting up at 5am tomorrow :D
[15:24] <tweetBot1> @AMSAT_UK: Watch presentation on SUWS VHF/UHF/uW WebSDR from #UKHAS Conference Saturday Aug 16 http://t.co/Qi7CdlDSwx #amsat #hamradio #hamr #cubesat
[15:24] <myier> so without doing this it's a bad idea to put the blanket
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[15:25] <SpeedEvil> Why are you considering the blanket?
[15:26] Action: SpeedEvil ponders.
[15:26] <myier> I don't know, last year someone in the project thought it was a good idea to have it around the pod
[15:26] <Frobble> Hi - newbie - is it mandatory for balloon tracking info to be broadcast to "spacenear.us" or similar, or can you get "personal" notifications?
[15:27] <myier> but we did not have the rf payload
[15:27] <mattbrejza> the main thing is that you test it
[15:27] <mattbrejza> make sure it doesnt cover the gps
[15:28] <SpeedEvil> Frobble: you can track balloons yourself - sure
[15:28] <SpeedEvil> Frobble: the network gives you (in some places) >>a dozen receivers 'free'
[15:29] <myier> ok
[15:30] <SpeedEvil> myier: looking up Al resistance gives 28nR/m. At 400nm, that's well under an ohm per square
[15:30] <SpeedEvil> you don't want it round the antenna
[15:32] <Frobble> SpeedEvil: Thanks. Can you point me at a resource where I can learn how that's done pls?
[15:32] <myier> ok
[15:32] <myier> thanks
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> Frobble: what's?
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> oh
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> the ukhas wiki is decent
[15:33] <Frobble> SpeedEvil: yep. And big! Will put an evening aside to read. Thank you.
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[15:35] <DL7AD_mobile> Evening
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[15:53] <tweetBot1> @NSEballoon: I wonder how everyone's payloads will have evolved this year? #ukhas #conference #blurryphoto http://t.co/AuffeGYrEp
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[16:44] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[17:14] <G0HDI> Occasional greens from G-06 received on 434.510 rtty 500/470 7n2. Anyone else?
[17:15] <G0HDI> Sorry typo rtty 300/470
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[17:22] <craag_philcrump> G0HDI: visible on the websdr too
[17:23] <craag_philcrump> sorry jcoxon
[17:23] <G0HDI> I only switched on on the offchance and there it was.. Aitborne
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[17:24] <mattbrejza> stealth hab
[17:24] <G0HDI> 434.512
[17:24] <G0HDI> Funcube dongle
[17:26] <G0HDI> http://www.qsl.net/g0hdi/HAB.htm Screengrab
[17:27] <G0HDI> Inside 'Conference' footprint too. Any idea of frequency?
[17:28] <myier> what happens
[17:28] <craag_philcrump> G0HDI: Conference is a pseudo-balloon
[17:28] <craag_philcrump> Used to mark the conference venue
[17:28] <G0HDI> Oh!
[17:29] <craag_philcrump> So dave can use his hab-tracking car PC as a sat-nav ;)
[17:29] <myier> haha
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[17:29] <G0HDI> Presumably it's transmitting something?
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[17:30] <craag_philcrump> No, it's fake data
[17:30] <G0HDI> Interesting
[17:30] <myier> about the chase cars on the map, does it mean they are transmitting RTTY or something similar too?
[17:30] <craag_philcrump> Won't be up at 2014m over london! (notice the number)
[17:31] <craag_philcrump> myier: No, there's a tracking app for chasecars
[17:31] <myier> nice
[17:31] <craag_philcrump> uploads position directly over data
[17:31] <seventeen> G-06: Sats in View = 0 - Batt Volts = 1.484V
[17:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No title is below 0=GPS Low Power, 5 Satellities
[17:33] <mfa298> from memory the conference balloon is 1m higher than it was last year. Going to take a long time to burst at this rate.
[17:34] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Thats going to be a pain to copy at 300Baud and no carrier inbetween bursts ;-(
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[17:40] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah I see sry seventeen! Its not transmitting a normal sentence
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[17:44] <Maxell> I will not be able to G-06 I think
[17:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah it lost GPS lock and was sending a different format its regained lock now
[17:47] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> every 10-12 seconds a normal sentence
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[17:48] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> loss lock again
[17:49] <G0HDI> Very weak here now. Just red's
[17:50] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> its back again
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[17:51] <G0HDI> You on a beam. Me a Diamond X510N vertical..
[17:52] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I might well be off beam without a reasonable chance of decding it :-(
[17:53] <G0HDI> West is not god for me for some reason. AirNav deaf that direction too *sigh*
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[17:54] <G0HDI> I think the forest trees soak up the signals lol
[17:55] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Not a good combination 300Baud, no carrier between bursts, no repeating last co-ords
[17:56] <G0HDI> Not using afc so grabbing what's there anyway. Just red's now
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[17:58] <G0HDI> Oh it is actuallu going up!. I was wondering if it was o n a very long piece of string hi
[18:00] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> ah its transmitting more continously now
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[18:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> ah now what ? carrier only
[18:03] <G0HDI> Carrier
[18:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> gone
[18:04] <G0HDI> 3 long bursts then nothing
[18:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> oh back with lost gps agin
[18:04] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> once every 30 seconds
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[18:06] <G0HDI> Weak data
[18:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> NO GpS(SIG -@Sts in1ViwP= 0@- Bav vOps = 1.658V
[18:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> locked again
[18:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> not had a single green decode
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[18:09] <G0HDI> I had a couple earlier. Hour ago now
[18:10] <G0HDI> Can hear data on headphones
[18:12] <G0HDI> 5882 m is sinking
[18:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> its right on my horizon at the moment but heading South so will have a sea path once it clears IoW
[18:13] <G0HDI> Yeah, and clears my trees!
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[18:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> getting a little stronger
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[18:20] <G0HDI> Yes, it's on the watefall again
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[18:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah cleared IoW come right up in strength
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[18:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> but its not got a lock again :-(
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[18:33] <tweetBot1> @daveake: The #UKHAS advance party go all Mexican in preparation for tomorrow's conference http://t.co/8uzdMMSrEO
[18:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not sure I ve seen Bacon on the menu in a Mexican before ?
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[18:38] <craag_philcrump> bacon is for the day of the launch
[18:38] <craag_philcrump> you can't have it the evening before
[18:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> That will mean they will be there until after midnight then ;-)
[18:40] <craag_philcrump> Or in the true spirit of mexican - they'll tell us they were there til 2am but actually they left at 9.
[18:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> Much more like it, first sesita about 10:00ISH then !
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[18:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nothing heard from G-06 for a while ?
[18:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> very weak
[18:49] <G0HDI> Very weak sig on phones
[18:51] <G0HDI> Doesn't want to climb?
[18:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nope its not happy http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/G-06_20140815/
[18:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> stronger that time
[18:58] <G0HDI> Gone deaf here
[18:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> its varying a lot between bursts for me just at the moment its up partial decodes ...
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[19:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> even stronger
[19:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> back very weak again
[19:07] <G0HDI> Hearing again, very feint though...Few dots on waterfall top frequency
[19:07] <mclane_> G06 quite strong on the websdr but no decodes
[19:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> very visible here but only about 10db snr according to fldigi, needs higher than that for 300baud
[19:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> would copy 50baud no problem
[19:10] <mclane_> no gps lock
[19:10] <mikestir> needs more fec
[19:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> its very weak with me now
[19:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> it looked like it was descending slowly, rather than any lift at all
[19:17] <gb73d> ive got a new pc w8 mc, my xp mc broke tueday
[19:18] <mclane_> now its gone
[19:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup nothng for a minute or so now
[19:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> oh something then
[19:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup its back to 30 second lost gps lock
[19:19] <mclane_> looks like reboot
[19:23] <G0HDI> Is anyone from G-06 launch crew monitoring on here incidentally?
[19:24] <craag_philcrump> G0HDI: I think the guy who launched it is camping in wales
[19:25] <cm13g09> evening craag_philcrump
[19:25] <craag_philcrump> good evening cm13g09
[19:26] <G0HDI> Oh!. Just wondered how he thought things were going etc
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[19:28] <G0HDI> Maybe tracking on cellphone Mobile tracker.
[19:28] <craag_philcrump> I think he was just going to launch it and watch the telem offline
[19:28] <craag_philcrump> hence lack of announcement
[19:28] <G0HDI> Ok
[19:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> He was launching it from around Bala
[19:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> not an area renowned for its cell coverage!
[19:29] <G0HDI> Shame it wasn't a Westerly wind
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[19:33] <G0HDI> Nothing even on phones now. Just lucky I tuned in at 18:00. Nice and strong then. Down hill ever since.
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[19:37] <harvy> Hi guys, looking to do a flight in 2 days and just wondering how long can I leave it before I submit the habitat docs?
[19:37] <alasdair> Anyone here used UPS before, I dont get my shipping status meaning?"Your package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release. / We require a phone number for the delivery address. "
[19:38] <craag_philcrump> harvy: You might want to get them done tonight as the relevant people will be at conference/pub tomorrow.
[19:39] <harvy> Ok cool, I see if I can knock them up soon.
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[19:48] <seventeen> It sent one: %X|"GtG)G-06,0,19:45:45,49.485325,-3.396908,5670,7,1.361,0*C0F5
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[19:50] <seventeen> EM8AjG-06,1,19:45:51,49.484680,-3.396735,5682,5,1.352,0*F185
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[20:00] <Laurenceb> https://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=51.482135,-0.008799&spn=0.000449,0.001321&t=h&z=20
[20:01] <Laurenceb> is it possible to walk through there?
[20:01] <Laurenceb> or is it gated?
[20:02] <mfa298> Laurenceb: surely streetview would provide you with an answer
[20:03] <Laurenceb> doh
[20:04] <Laurenceb> im guessing unlocked most of the time
[20:05] <mfa298> I think they were open last year, we probably walked through them but I was tired at that point and can't remember
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[20:06] <Laurenceb> ok]
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[20:10] <craag_philcrump> ping Upu
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[20:41] <FlerbPc> Hi
[20:42] <craag_philcrump> yo FlerbPc
[20:43] <FlerbPc> Hi Phil.
[20:43] <FlerbPc> You had your graduation yet?
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[20:44] <craag_philcrump> Yep a couple of weeks ago
[20:47] <FlerbPc> Oh cool, how did it go?
[20:50] <craag_philcrump> twas fun
[20:50] <craag_philcrump> heavy black gown
[20:50] <craag_philcrump> strong sunshine
[20:50] <craag_philcrump> air conditioning switched off for vice-chancellors speech
[20:50] <craag_philcrump> :)
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[20:55] <Lunar_Lander> ohhh thermal overload
[20:57] <craag_philcrump> just a bit ;)
[20:57] <craag_philcrump> but far better than rain
[20:57] <craag_philcrump> and twas a good day
[20:57] <Laurenceb> degree?
[20:57] <Lunar_Lander> yay
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[20:58] <craag_philcrump> beng electronic engineering
[20:58] <Laurenceb> ah cool, well done
[20:58] <craag_philcrump> thanks
[20:58] Action: Laurenceb is writing up PhD thesis atm
[20:58] <craag_philcrump> What's your phd in?
[20:58] <Laurenceb> hopefully graduating in November
[20:59] <Laurenceb> Biomedical Physics
[20:59] <craag_philcrump> cool
[20:59] <craag_philcrump> sounds challenging
[20:59] <Laurenceb> yes, very
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[21:00] <Laurenceb> especially if you get into disagreements with supervisors etc
[21:00] <craag_philcrump> ah yes
[21:00] <Laurenceb> half the work is project management related
[21:00] <craag_philcrump> good luck!
[21:00] <Laurenceb> thanks
[21:01] <FlerbPc> What exactly is the study of biomedical physics?
[21:02] <FlerbPc> No offence but does it have any real-world application?
[21:02] <Laurenceb> aka medical sensing
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[21:15] <mfa298> Biomedical Physics sounds like it hits two parts of http://xkcd.com/435/ which aren't next to each other. That's got to be interesting
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[21:16] <SpeedEvil> biomedicine is not a soft science
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[21:22] <cm13g09> enjoy the conference tomorrow
[21:22] <cm13g09> sorry I can't be there
[21:22] <cm13g09> (other hobbies have kinda eaten large sums of money this month...)
[21:23] Action: mfa298 suspects the conference would have been cheaper than those other hobbies
[21:24] <cm13g09> mfa298: scarily not......
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[21:24] <cm13g09> in the case of last weekend anyway
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[21:26] <cm13g09> mfa298: see PM
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[21:33] <Flerb_> craag_philcrump, is the stuff you did at university relevant to your current job?
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[21:37] <craag_philcrump> Flerb_: Definitely
[21:39] <Flerb_> Oh. Come to think of it, I'll probably have no idea what I want to do at 18
[21:47] <mfa298> in some cases the content of the degree may not be used so much, but the experiences of Uni can be relevant and it introduces you to good ways of thinking about problems etc.
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[21:47] <DL7AD> good evening!
[21:47] <fsphil> ahoy
[21:47] <mfa298> I think I've used very little of what I learn't at Uni in my jobs. But Uni gave me the opertunity to see big computer systems / networks and get hold of cheap computers to experiment with
[21:47] <DL7AD> i'm done
[21:48] <mfa298> fsphil: you've not all left the pub already have you ?
[21:48] <fsphil> hehe yea. early start in the morning
[21:49] <DL7AD> i thought he went back, did you fsphil :P
[21:50] <DL7AD> im kinnding
[21:50] <fsphil> I'd have fallen asleep at the table if I'd stayed out any longer :)
[21:51] <fsphil> my usb charger doesn't seem to agree with my phone
[21:51] <fsphil> yay standards
[21:51] <mfa298> I'm sure there are plenty of people that can give you all a wakeup call as we leave in the morning.
[21:51] <Laurenceb> i need to be up at 5am :D
[21:52] <Laurenceb> catching first train down
[21:52] <fsphil> not so bad here. I'm setting my alarm for 7
[21:52] <mfa298> I think I get a slight lie in compared to that. although I'm trying to decide between 0530 and 0600 for the alarm
[21:53] <mfa298> I don't like setting the alarm on android. It always tells you you're not going to get enough sleep :(
[21:56] <DL7AD> o.o breakfast is beginning at 7am they told me in the ibis.
[21:57] <DL7AD> but i'm going to bed soon too
[22:01] <chrisstubbs> Is daves pi in the sky talk is getting recorded as well as the ones in the main lecture room?
[22:01] <cm13g09> mfa298: lol - yeah
[22:01] <daveake> pass
[22:01] <cm13g09> Android alarms
[22:02] <cm13g09> have fun at UKHASConf
[22:02] Action: cm13g09 sleeps
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[22:34] <DL7AD> btw..... is G-06 flying?
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[22:41] <IRC_ukhas> evening all. what is the conference 2 m calling frequency please?
[22:42] Nick change: IRC_ukhas -> astrobiologist
[22:42] <craag_philcrump> astrobiologist: 145.200
[22:43] <astrobiologist> thanks!
[22:44] <astrobiologist> is there a final schedule or is the one on ukhas.org.uk the most recent?
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[22:50] <DL7AD> whats the prefix for forgein callsigns in UK?
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[22:54] <astrobiologist> night all. need my exam beauty sleep
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[23:01] <adamgreig> DL7AD: M/
[23:01] <adamgreig> in england
[23:04] <Flerb_> mfa298, yeah. I guess even if you go to uni and study something like sabermetrics you still probably learn some useful stuff
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[23:09] <DL7AD> adamgreig: thanks
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[23:32] <harvy> I'm guessing now is not an appropiate time to upload some flight docs?
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[23:35] <craag_philcrump> harvy: Post the flight doc ids in #habhub and someone might get round to them soon
[23:35] <harvy> craag_philcrump, ok will do
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[23:57] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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