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[01:12] <joeman> g'day
[01:12] <joeman> Do you guys reckon Ideal Gas equation is valid for sea level....all the way through to 30,000 feet?
[01:13] <joeman> I'm doing some calcs on balloon expansion to provide in app to CASA
[01:13] <joeman> (little problem of light balloons and the odd requirements)
[01:16] <aadamson> joeman, the *smart guys* are pretty much in the UK and it's 1am there or thereabouts so most are in bed... might try that question during more reasonable awake hours for them. I'm sure someone has some ideas they will share on the topic
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[01:20] <malclocke> joeman, this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law#Equation
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[01:23] <malclocke> that looks like a universal law to me, but as aadamson says all the experts are asleep :)
[01:25] <joeman> yes, that one
[01:26] <joeman> 1am! of course. I understand. :). Will hang about. Thanks!
[01:28] <malclocke> joeman, where are you planning to fly from? first flight?
[01:31] <joeman> 100km easy of Mareeba Far North Queensland
[01:31] <joeman> yes - first flight
[01:31] <joeman> (taking forever it seems), but a lot of stuff to take into consideration
[01:31] <joeman> east
[01:32] <joeman> ops
[01:32] <joeman> West
[01:32] <joeman> (you can tell I used to live in Western Australia....where everything was East)
[01:32] <malclocke> cool, have you been in touch with any of the other Au folks on here? I'm sure they will be able to offer some advice.
[01:36] <joeman> no, not within the channel (not a frequent vistor to channel). Wotzup website has provided a bit of insight into some of the "AU" CASA processes.
[01:36] <joeman> Just going to have to submit the app and see what happens. Will try and do by next week after this nightmare of a week is over
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[06:16] <fsphil> annoying
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[06:42] <SA6BSS> B-55 going for another spin :) http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=28e616eaac902f80d7025ea7ff5fa7b698cd4dea
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[06:56] <lz1dev> b-55 is going home
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[06:59] <fsphil> LrdFlHrt: please fix your internet :)
[07:00] <sp2ipt> bad mr peer ;)
[07:00] <fsphil> he's always up to no good
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[07:04] <lz1dev> peer's got him by the internet
[07:07] <fsphil> so B-55. this could float for a long time
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[07:10] <MightyMik> the B series is good for ~190 hours or so right?
[07:10] <fsphil> as long as the balloon holds out, it should just keep going
[07:10] <fsphil> solar powered
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[07:10] <MightyMik> but dat baloon... heat cycles
[07:12] <fsphil> it doesn't seem bovvered
[07:13] <Laurenceb_> http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/50680948.jpg
[07:13] <MightyMik> it will run out of recieve infrastructure soon enough
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[07:13] <fsphil> biggest risk seems to be high altitude clouds
[07:16] <lz1dev> high altitude clouds can be real bullies some time
[07:18] <fsphil> noctilucent clouds should be visible this time of year. a night time floater would be good for imaging them
[07:19] <MightyMik> there's an idea for a payload
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[08:02] <bsis_james> Hi. I was having a problem last night, with the habitat parsing the string and it not showing up in spacenear.us. Having looked at it now it says that "fix_invalid=true"
[08:03] <fsphil> common gotcha. when you setup the document, you may have told it that your normal string is what you send when it has no gps lock
[08:04] <bsis_james> Ok, one sec let me just check that. Thanks.
[08:04] <amell> bsis_james: are you the guys launching from elsworth tomorrow?
[08:05] <bsis_james> Yes. Hopefully.
[08:05] <amell> i will be there with steve.
[08:05] <bsis_james> Great, look forward to meeting you.
[08:05] <bsis_james> On the payload document there is a filter for invalid always, would this prevent it from appearing in spacenear.us
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[08:17] <bsis_james> Think we've fixed it now. Is it possible now for the flight document to be approved?
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[08:20] <fsphil> bsis_james: yea
[08:21] <fsphil> I believe it adds that if in the wizard you say "When without a lock, it sends ... 'this format'"
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[09:06] <iz4002swl> sp9uob no tx ??
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[09:14] <iz4swl> b_55 ????
[09:14] <tweetBot> @daveake: Shot of "Alban" the bear, taken by the GoPro during yesterday's flight for St Albans school #UKHAS http://t.co/dUFensVDJo
[09:15] <iz4swl> B-55 no TX ??? QSL ?
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[09:28] <daveake> I think Lord Flashheart is having a bit of trouble with his internet
[09:31] <jonsowman> WOOF
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[09:32] <gonzo_> I think he is passed trouble now
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[09:40] <Laurenceb__> heading for mount Blanc
[09:40] <Laurenceb__> should be interesting
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[09:54] <mfa298> easy fix for people with bad internet (at least with a decent client): /ignore LrdFlHrt JOIN QUIT
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[09:55] <fsphil> there may be a +b rather shortly
[09:55] <Miek> weechat's got a nifty feature where it'll hide all joins/parts/quits unless the user has spoken recently
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[10:06] <joeman> ok
[10:07] <SgtBurned> Hey guys
[10:08] <joeman> hi
[10:11] <fsphil> morning
[10:11] <SgtBurned> mornin'
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[10:15] <jonsowman> LrdFlHrt: please sort your connection out, or quit until you have :)
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[10:18] <fsphil> sign
[10:18] <fsphil> sigh even
[10:18] Action: fsphil gives up
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[10:19] <joeman> I have a question....
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[10:20] <joeman> Can one assume that gases up to 30,000 ft (10,000m) act like an Ideal Gas?
[10:20] <joeman> I'm doing some calcs on expansion of a balloon and I'm using the PV = nRT to do it
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[11:01] <Joekul> Hi there!
[11:02] <Joekul> Is B-55 beacon'ing on standard 144.800 MHz APRS?
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[11:06] <Joekul> I think I found: B-55 on APRS is MOXER-5, right?
[11:06] <mattbrejza> yep
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[11:09] <Joekul> Thanks! I am in Zurich, with an RTL-SDR and a homemade 50cm ground plane. I wonder if 'll have a chance to hear/decode it....
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[11:09] <mattbrejza> its on 434.500 too
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[11:16] <fsphil> Geoff-G8DHE: you having internet problems too? :)
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[11:16] <mattbrejza> reaches for ban hammer...
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[11:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Hi fsphil only just got back in have I been boncing up/down
[11:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah maybe the tablet has been
[11:22] <Joekul> It took me too a few attempts to connect to FreeNode...
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[11:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Humm see what you mean
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[11:31] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Could do with a remote accessible IRC client I guess when the links are a bit dubious
[11:31] <jonsowman> Geoff-G8DHE-M: use a bouncer
[11:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> which is what ?
[11:32] <Laurenceb__> pity there is no camera on B-55
[11:32] <Laurenceb__> bet the view is amazing
[11:32] <jonsowman> Geoff-G8DHE-M: software that sits on a server somewhere and remains connected to the IRC network, and you connect to it as/when you can
[11:32] <jonsowman> alternatively, a lot of people run something like irssi on a vps/server somewhere
[11:33] <jonsowman> including me
[11:33] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yup just found them I'll investigate
[11:33] <jonsowman> the irssi + screen solution works very nicely
[11:34] <jonsowman> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/
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[11:35] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yup that's the tablet
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[11:36] <fsphil> one of the floaters with a camera would be fun. it wouldn't be in any rush to transmit the images
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[11:37] <mattbrejza> images via aprs? :P
[11:37] <fsphil> exactly
[11:37] <fsphil> a few images a day, nobody would notice
[11:37] <mattbrejza> how many bytes can you get in the comment section?
[11:37] <fsphil> well I wouldn't use aprs
[11:37] <fsphil> just the data packed in an ax25 frame
[11:37] <fsphil> it should get uploaded to APRS-IS
[11:38] <mattbrejza> oh right
[11:38] <fsphil> some badly written igate software might barf on it
[11:38] <fsphil> but meh
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[11:43] <fsphil> APRS-IS is the most useful part of APRS
[11:44] <LeoBodnar> what do you reckon: kick up or drop down? [10:40] <Laurenceb__> heading for mount Blanc
[11:44] <Laurenceb__> its going down a bit atm
[11:45] <Laurenceb__> camera and SSDV over APRS
[11:45] <Laurenceb__> is required
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[11:50] <edusupport> SgtBurned pm
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[12:15] <bsis_james> fsphil: Hi again. We've got it fully working now and ready to go tomorrow so is it possible to approve the flight document now?
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[12:16] <fsphil> nice, working well
[12:16] <fsphil> I can't approve docs, someone else will need to
[12:16] <amell> PING UPU? :)
[12:19] <bsis_james> OK thanks. Just to ask, considering that it's showing up on there why do we need approval?
[12:20] <fsphil> it won't appear in dl-fldigi's flight list
[12:20] <fsphil> or be available to export after
[12:21] <mattbrejza> and someone could mess with the payload doc
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[12:28] <fsphil> also I suspect soon only approved flights will appear on the main map
[12:28] <fsphil> soon-ISH
[12:28] <mfa298> bsis_james: if it doesn't get approved here, try #habhub and leave the flight doc id. that way one of the people that can approve should see it. asking in here could get lost in the other chatter (also I think you need to ensure the flight doc to be approved is linked to the working payload doc - so the flight doc needs to be created after you've got a working payload doc)
[12:28] <mattbrejza> we've been saying soon for the past couple of years :P
[12:29] <fsphil> need something more than iSH
[12:29] <mattbrejza> many-ish
[12:29] <mattbrejza> such-ish
[12:29] <fsphil> ISH squared
[12:29] <mfa298> I suspect new snus features are after the backend + ish
[12:30] <mattbrejza> ask brazil what term theyve been using for describing when world cup stuff will be ready
[12:30] <mattbrejza> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-27774763
[12:31] <bsis_james> mfa298: Thanks. Will do.
[12:37] <tweetBot> @daveake: Pic from yesterday's flight #UKHAS http://t.co/Kf70XahNRZ
[12:45] <LeoBodnar> reasonably stable altitude over Mont Blanc
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[12:58] <Maxell> B-55 keeps APRS-Txing \o/
[12:58] <Maxell> Drifiting away from France :P
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[13:03] <fsphil> it's over a pretty active thunderstorm
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[13:04] <fsphil> well, just east of one
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[13:54] <jiffe98> those B-*'s always seem to take a roundabout way of getting to places, someone should give them a map
[13:54] <f6aiu> plus de signal depuis 20 minutes; dernière trame: $$B-55,2819,132911,140610,47.2048,6.8416,10107,8,4,4.32,0.68*B038
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[14:35] <Laurenceb__> no receivers for B-55 ?
[14:35] <mattbrejza> no aprs en france
[14:35] <DJ3AK> waiting for B-55 to show up in the north :-)
[14:36] <mattbrejza> although there was rx just before it hit france :/
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[14:42] <SgtBurned> shot down by the france air force... :D
[14:43] <Elwell> evening all, slightly OT Q about the radiometrix HX1 modules (hey, I purchased this one from Upu, so thats my tenuous link) -- what's the DIY APRS tracker design of choice for these (it's for land use, not airbourne) - still trackduino?
[14:43] <Laurenceb__> more likely that they surrendered to it
[14:45] <SgtBurned> I like you Laurenceb__ ... You are a good person. More than likely though that their air force cant even shoot down a balloon anyway and end up crying.
[14:45] <SgtBurned> Surrendering and then eating smelly cheese and drinking wine.
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[15:02] <aadamson> Elwell, check the ukhas wiki, I know Anthony (M0UPU) updated the information around the other radiometrix module, but suspect the information should be similar for the HX1
[15:03] <fsphil> just doing basic tracking Elwell?
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[15:04] <Elwell> fsphil: yeah. it'll be in the car bouncing off the local APRS digipeaters.
[15:05] <Elwell> and mainly for hackery value rather than quality of tracking
[15:05] <fsphil> yea, trackduino is probably fine for that
[15:24] <Laurenceb__> Parc Naturel Regional des Ballons des Vosges
[15:24] <Laurenceb__> hell yeah
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[15:50] <Reb-SM3ULC> b55 still alive?
[15:51] <SA6BSS> japp, troligen
[15:51] <SA6BSS> den är programerad att stängs av aprs över frankrike
[15:51] <SA6BSS> och snus står på aprs inportering
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[16:29] <aadamson> LeoBodnar, was searching for ballistic parachute info for my airplane and came across some links that you might like - http://stevegriffinenterprises.com/balloon-building/tools.html
[16:29] <aadamson> didn't know that balistic parachutes and balloons were related - shrug :)
[16:30] <aadamson> I found one other piece of info if I can remember how the heck I search for it to find again... hmm
[16:33] <LeoBodnar> the optimal shape of 1/2 of SP balloon is the same as a parachute
[16:34] <LeoBodnar> *"optimal" includes 10 pages of comments
[16:34] <aadamson> http://www.myairship.com/building/design.html
[16:35] <aadamson> found it must high level info, but figure who knows maybe Leo would like it
[16:35] <LeoBodnar> i have read it
[16:36] <aadamson> another freind know of this effort as well and sent me some pictures - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6730484/balloon%201.jpeg
[16:36] <aadamson> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6730484/balloon%202.jpeg
[16:37] <aadamson> not sure where that comes from, but it appears these guys put them together from gores and use an origami approach to folds etc. I don't know how they deal with the pointy ends however
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[16:39] <aadamson> I doubt there are any comparisons with super pressure vs hot air, but this one did look interesting none-the-less - http://stevegriffinenterprises.com/balloon-building/tools/75-tetroondesigner.html
[16:41] <aadamson> with this disclaimer - I'm surprised someone actually hung their cage below one :) - "It is completely unproven! Use it at your peril!!"
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[16:49] <aadamson> and if you want the ultimate in zero cost - but for day use only it appears - http://ballonsolaire.pagesperso-orange.fr/en-index.htm
[16:50] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[17:05] <LeoBodnar> thanks aadamson i had no idea about any of that
[17:05] <aadamson> here's a wild one for you as well - http://www.piccard.info/
[17:05] <aadamson> no idea how stale or new the info is however
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[17:09] <aadamson> sheesh, that just sounds like a RPITA to build - http://www.piccard.info/bulbous_gore_tetroon.htm
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[17:17] <chris_4x1rf> evening everybody!
[17:17] <chris_4x1rf> SP9UOB is alive!
[17:17] <chris_4x1rf> Received this frame but with bad CRC:
[17:17] <chris_4x1rf> $$sp9uob,77616550,29;Y4690I25.V5a94,835P8078I90,74,-14e7223,32,1b,7,*c289
[17:20] <malgar> wow
[17:20] <malgar> from where?
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[17:22] <Laurenceb__> isreal
[17:23] <LeoBodnar> you need to come over and give us a presentation on all this stuff
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[17:24] <malgar> b 55 is dead?
[17:29] <aadamson> LeoBodnar, ^ better not be directed at me... I know *nothing* about most things actually just a good goolgler
[17:36] <Laurenceb__> is sp9uob on aprs?
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[17:40] <aadamson> LeoBodnar, forgot to ask, would you prefer aprs_callsign or callsign_aprs - not sure if you are scanning logfiles or what, but noted that Andy is callsign_aprs and it's an easy enough change for me to make just let me know which you prefer?
[17:41] <mattbrejza> :/
[17:42] <aadamson> Laurenceb__, doesn't appear as so, for sp9uob
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[17:42] <aadamson> if you just put the callsign *with no ssid* in aprs.fi, it will usually show you all the ssid's for that call and there are none including the original
[17:42] <LeoBodnar> can you post the link aadamson ?
[17:43] <aadamson> to which LeoBodnar ?
[17:43] <aadamson> I'm not sure however if aprs.fi isn't having problems. I tried to go the a minute ago and got a database error, refreshed and got the site.
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[17:45] <arko> wow, nice flight SP9UOB
[17:47] <aadamson> hmm... go figure now sp9uob is showing in aprs.fi... very strange, guess I'll check their blog
[17:47] <aadamson> ah, just saw a message, indeed it's having problems
[17:47] <Laurenceb__> what callsign?
[17:47] <aadamson> i just put in sp9uob and found all of his
[17:47] <aadamson> but nothing new
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[17:48] <aadamson> only the bold ones have had any recent activity
[17:48] <aadamson> and none of those are balloons
[17:48] <bertrik> It looks like B-55 might actually be getting close to the netherlands, better check the radio
[17:48] <aadamson> but then again, it seems they are having problems so who knows
[17:48] <bertrik> maybe PE2G can receive it, he's in the east of the netherlands
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[17:54] <aadamson> his current one is sp9uob-12, last heard 1d5h ago
[17:54] <aadamson> and just to make sure that's not related to the aprs.fi issues,
[17:54] <aadamson> I'm watching the aprs-is feed live with a buddy list of b/sp9uob*
[17:54] <aadamson> and am seeing nothing from it
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[18:45] <aadamson> Just when you thought it was safe to go outside! - https://tessel.io/ - scary stuff
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[18:49] <PE1RQM> Haven't received B55 in the Netherlands yet
[18:55] <Reb-SM3ULC> Stealthmode on?
[19:00] <DL7AD> i was told by french people that B-55 stopped transmitting contestia as aprs stopped too.
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[19:21] <SP9UOB-Tom> evening :-)
[19:25] <SP9UOB-Tom> 30 degrees in my bedroom... it will be hard night...
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[19:28] <PE1RQM> hi Tom, hot in here too. The shack feels like a sauna
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[19:32] <chris_4x1rf> SP9UOB-Tom great job recovering SP9UOB's status from the gibberish data received here, glad I could help!
[19:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: UPU is working on putting in on the map
[19:33] <Upu> bear with me chris_4x1rf and don't go anywhere :)
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[19:35] <Laurenceb_> sup
[19:39] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: its on the map with updated position
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[19:41] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: with that speed it should be over You early morning
[19:41] <chris_4x1rf> SP9UOB-Tom: looks quite far away to have been in my radio range
[19:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: plane reflection ?
[19:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: if you get some SP9UOB-LOG frames i can recover up to 2 days of flight
[19:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> path
[19:44] <sp2ipt> SP9UOB-Tom: open the window :) It got colder now by the sea and the air is nice :)
[19:44] <chris_4x1rf> how can I automatically save all the dl-fldigi log?
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[19:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: in linux it is saved into user home dir/.dl-fldigi/talk/
[19:45] <chris_4x1rf> windoze7 here :-(
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[19:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: turn on configure -> misc -> text i/o -> enable rx text stream and restart
[19:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: but You have to find textout.txt file on Your disk
[19:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp2ipt: well i have about 550 km to the nearest sea ;-)
[19:47] <sp2ipt> SP9UOB-Tom: well /dcc send SP9UOB-Tom some_fresh_air ;)
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[19:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> SP9UOB-Tom: when last time i've bought "compressed air" that was buthane :-)
[19:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> in can
[19:49] <sp2ipt> hmmm... that's a start. Cigarette lighter, *kaboom* and you jump to the sea ;) Just need a big buthane can :)
[19:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp2ipt: look for "potato gun" @YouTube :-) LOL
[19:50] <chris_4x1rf> SP9UOB-Tom: done, thanks!
[19:51] <sp2ipt> SP9UOB-Tom: we were firing crayons with a friend in primary school. Gunpowder as fuel :D
[19:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp2ipt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5NnX_FSEGQ MUST HAVEE !
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[19:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp2ipt: mee too :-)
[19:52] <sp2ipt> PVC pipe is foe weenies :)
[19:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp2ipt: thats remind me this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFLu8_rEQL0
[19:54] <sp2ipt> shit, it's Al.... My poor neighbours ;)
[19:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> LOL
[19:55] <DL7AD> sp9uob is back :)
[19:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> Denver 911 what is your emergency?
[19:55] <sp2ipt> now lemme find that like a surgeon :)
[19:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL7AD: hi Sven :-) With huge help of Chris and UPU :-)
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[19:56] <DL7AD> hi SP9UOB-Tom and chris_4x1rf ;)
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[20:03] <chris_4x1rf> DL7AD: Hi Sven!
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[20:04] <DL7AD> chris_4x1rf: well done chris ;)
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[20:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: is there APRS infrastructure in Israell ?
[20:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> 2late :-)
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[20:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: is there APRS infrastructure in Israell ?
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[20:07] <chris_4x1rf> DL7AD: well, I was hoping to get some good decodes but probably shut itself down just before entering my range
[20:08] <DL7AD> it did? i thought the packets came from you...?
[20:09] <chris_4x1rf> SP9UOB-Tom: central and northern parts seems to be well covered, not sure about the south
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[20:10] <DL7AD> chris_4x1rf: there's exactly one digipeater at the south
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[20:10] <DL7AD> chris_4x1rf: in eliat
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[20:11] <chris_4x1rf> DL7AD: yes, but with bad checksum so not uploaded to spacenear. Tom SP9UOB applied some magic to the raw packets data received and Upu made the site update
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[20:11] <chris_4x1rf> Upu: thanks for the position update on the map!
[20:12] <DL7AD> chris_4x1rf: ah okay..... so you might receive it later?
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[20:13] <chris_4x1rf> DL7AD: I hope but not sure what are the chances
[20:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL7AD: according to prediction it should be allmost exactly over Chris head early morning
[20:14] <chris_4x1rf> DL7AD: I understand that due to freezing temps it may switch itself off and I suspect this is what hapened
[20:15] <DL7AD> ops
[20:15] <DL7AD> sure
[20:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> exactly, nimh is not so good for -30 deg
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[20:15] <chris_4x1rf> DL7AD: it should have been very near by now and no sign of it for the last 3 hours
[20:15] <DL7AD> it has been already at 1.1V one day ago at night
[20:15] <Reb-SM3ULC> chris_4x1rf: I see 4Z5LA in the middle of Palestine but noone else. Regulations?
[20:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL7AD: it has solar charger
[20:16] <DL7AD> SP9UOB-Tom: ah is it a special primary-lithium/solar version?
[20:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL7AD: no! Ni-MH accu, but it wasnt a good idea
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[20:18] <chris_4x1rf> Reb_SM3ULC: no, not related to regulations. Just very low APRS traffic...
[20:18] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL7AD: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=908198659205897&set=pb.100000473142757.-2207520000.1402431488.&type=3&theater
[20:18] <SP9UOB-Tom> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=908198655872564&set=pb.100000473142757.-2207520000.1402431488.&type=3&theater
[20:18] <DL7AD> cool
[20:19] <SP9UOB-Tom> cool as hell ;-)
[20:19] <SP9UOB-Tom> too cool for the accu ;-)
[20:19] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB-Tom: mm, why the curls on the antenna?
[20:19] <DL7AD> SP9UOB-Tom: thanks tom ;)
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[20:20] <SP9UOB-Tom> Reb-SM3ULC: for stiffening
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[20:21] <chris_4x1rf> SP9UOB-Tom: I do not have a good antenna take-off to N-NE so not too much hope to receive anything from SP9UOB once it gets past my position
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[20:22] <DL7AD> okay i will leave to use the pass of the iss (aprs digipeater)
[20:23] <SP9UOB-Tom> chris_4x1rf: im keeping my fingers crossed, and thanks for the effort !
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[20:29] <chris_4x1rf> SP9UOB-Tom: Thanks for the challenge Tom!
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[20:41] <SP9UOB-Tom> Reb-SM3ULC: material and power source in cold temp
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[20:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok, time to bed
[20:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> night all
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[20:47] <Reb-SM3ULC> LeoBodnar_: ever thought of doing an attempt to reach the midnight sun?
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[20:55] <Lunar_Lander> hi mclane_
[20:55] <mclane_> hallo, Lunar_Lander
[20:55] <Lunar_Lander> wie gehts?
[20:55] <mclane_> gut soweit
[20:56] <mclane_> alles klar im Norden?
[20:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> Reb-SM3ULC, See http://ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:arctic_challenge?s[]=arctic&s[]=circle
[20:56] <Reb-SM3ULC> Lunar_Lander: Gokväll!
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> ja, danke
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> hej Reb-SM3ULC
[20:56] <mclane_> (keine Gewitterprobleme?)
[20:57] <Lunar_Lander> doch schon etwas, züge verspäter
[20:58] <Reb-SM3ULC> Geoff-G8DHE: i know he managed to get there in the cold dark winter. just thought the "eternal" sun could be used for some funky stuff
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[20:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh yes that's true! Still it was the land of ;-)
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[21:02] <S_Mark> Hi all - can someone decypher the switches on this line to avrdude...
[21:02] <S_Mark> avrdude -c stk500 -P /dev/cu.usbmodem1411 -B1 -p m328 -v
[21:02] <S_Mark> avrdude -c stk500v2 -P /dev/cu.usbmodem1411 -B1 -p m328p -v
[21:03] <S_Mark> the second one
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[21:04] <mclane_> looks strange specifically the -P parameter
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[21:05] <S_Mark> Yeah, I had it saved somewhere and running it has solved all my problems with programming up my board
[21:05] <S_Mark> looks like -P is port
[21:06] <mikestir_> it is - you're on a mac?
[21:06] <S_Mark> yes
[21:06] <mikestir_> usb to serial converter?
[21:06] <S_Mark> olimex stk500
[21:07] <mikestir_> yeah will be then, because the real stk500 is just serial
[21:07] <S_Mark> ok
[21:07] <mikestir_> the /dev/cu... bit is the device node given to the serial port
[21:07] <mikestir_> it's equivalent to /dev/ttyUSB0 on linux
[21:08] <S_Mark> just weird that I had to run that before arduino would get past the 'device not configured' message
[21:08] <S_Mark> that has stumped me all night
[21:08] <S_Mark> working now though, I'll remember for next tie
[21:08] <S_Mark> time
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[21:12] <S_Mark> Best/easiest way to make explosive cutdowns?
[21:12] <S_Mark> matchheads?
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[21:23] <Laurenceb_> or proper explosives...
[21:23] <Laurenceb_> actually not that hard to buy pyro cutdowns
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[21:25] <Lunar_Lander> model rocket primers?
[21:25] <tweetBot> @daveake: The Queen, The Duke of York, and my TARDIS :-) #UKHAS #RaspberryPi http://t.co/sOTT4mT7MJ
[21:26] <Lunar_Lander> daveake, congratulations!
[21:26] <daveake> I think my invitation got lost in the post
[21:26] <Upu> haha
[21:28] <Laurenceb_> uh now we have keyword match
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[21:29] <Laurenceb_> GCHQ strike squad heading out for us
[21:29] <daveake> :)
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[21:30] <arko> dude, that image is awesome
[21:30] <arko> srsly awesome
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> I agree
[21:30] <arko> she's eyeing that tardis
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[21:30] <daveake> I shall ask for a decent res version
[21:30] <arko> :)
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[21:31] <S_Mark> Laurenceb_: where to buy pyro cutdowns?
[21:31] <Lunar_Lander> A KiCAD experiment http://gerblook.org/pcb/Wdr3HaBLzDBUPfAvLVBaGA
[21:32] <Laurenceb_> www.chemring.co.uk/
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[21:50] <adamgreig> they are not super cheap in small qty though
[21:50] <adamgreig> chemring do _all sorts_ of fun stuff
[22:02] <S_Mark> where is the shop section lol
[22:02] <arko> LOL
[22:03] <arko> that'd be hilarious for a military supplier
[22:03] <arko> amazon prime
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[22:11] <Laurenceb_> B-56 launched in record time
[22:12] <arko> lol nice Leo
[22:12] <Laurenceb_> the failure was ESD
[22:13] <Laurenceb_> probably B-56 now has ESD protection aiui
[22:13] <SpeedEvil> ^probably
[22:13] <SpeedEvil> Could have been aliens
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[22:50] <DL7AD> yeah B-56 up :)
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[22:56] <DL7AD> wb LeoBodnar
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[23:04] <CHRISG7OGX> IS b56 TX ING rf PLEASE?
[23:05] <DL7AD> ?
[23:05] <bertrik> I set up the receiver in the hague to try to receive b-55 on 434.5 MHz all evening, but no luck
[23:08] <CHRISG7OGX> BERTRIK coming your way persevere
[23:08] <CHRISG7OGX> DL7AD ur credited with receiving B56 on the map
[23:09] <DL7AD> yes via websdr
[23:09] <Maxell> bertrik: we could keep it on just in case
[23:09] <Maxell> the RxID is set to scan all of the 3 khz
[23:09] <Maxell> so not that much tuning required
[23:09] <bertrik> ok, I just woke it up
[23:09] <Maxell> oh sure
[23:10] <Maxell> Does it still TX on ISM UHF?
[23:10] <CHRISG7OGX> was wondering because the map is not very informative
[23:10] <DL7AD> Maxell: it should but i was told by the french that it stopped transmitting
[23:10] <CHRISG7OGX> ..and nothing here
[23:11] <Maxell> DL7AD: thats a bummer
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[23:11] <Maxell> Disabling the aprs transmissions ism uhf also fails...
[23:12] <Maxell> bertrik: i'll see if it rx'd anything tonight
[23:12] <Maxell> good night
[23:12] <DL7AD> Maxell: gn
[23:12] <DL7AD> i will go to bed too
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[23:15] <DL7AD> gn
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[23:20] <meow_> B-56 isn't doing well, its going down..
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[23:29] <dg9bfc_sigi> hello all
[23:30] <dg9bfc_sigi> any newsabout b55??
[23:31] <dg9bfc_sigi> nothing?
[23:32] <joeman> mmmm
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[23:46] <dg9bfc_sigi> ???
[23:49] <dg9bfc_sigi> 160 people in this chat-room ... and nobody gives an answer .hmmm?!?
[23:51] <dg9bfc_sigi> please ... not all at once ... :-)
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