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[00:16] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload
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[05:00] <RU4HU_Andy_> HI !!
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[05:43] <Upu> morning RU4HU_Andy_
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[06:18] <RU4HU_Andy_> HI Sven !!
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[06:19] <RU4HU_Andy_> Any news B-47 ???
[06:21] <RU4HU_Andy_> 08 55 heard carrier within 5 minutes in 144 800
[06:21] <RU4HU_Andy_> Az 240
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[07:32] <Adam012> Good morning! Is anyone else online?
[07:33] <eroomde> no
[07:33] <Adam012> hah hah!
[07:34] <arko> what's the internet?
[07:34] <fsphil> these are all automated responses
[07:34] <Adam012> It's been so long since we last launched I don't remember how to get the flight doc accepted, could you help? I seem to remember I had to head over to a different channel?
[07:34] <arko> INSERT COIN
[07:34] <Adam012> 50p
[07:35] <arko> Thank you for your generous contribution, please visit #habhub to continue
[07:35] <Adam012> ;-) thanks!
[07:35] <Adam012> tip 5p
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[07:37] <eroomde> Adam012: arko is american
[07:37] <eroomde> tip 15p
[07:38] <arko> Thank you eroomde, you've met the minimum tip requirement to convert to real money, otherwise known as dollars!
[07:38] <Adam012> We're in the UK, surely I can just tip a miserly 10%?
[07:38] <Adam012> Real money? When $1=£1 then we'll talk
[07:39] <arko> arkobot is upset with your insult
[07:39] <arko> please try again.
[07:39] <eroomde> i quite like the exchange rate as it is
[07:39] <eroomde> good for visting
[07:40] <arko> joking aside
[07:40] <arko> it hurts my wallet to visit the uk
[07:40] <arko> but its worth it
[07:40] <Adam012> We're expensive but worth it? Thanks!
[07:40] <arko> srsly, i enjoyed the uk
[07:41] <arko> great times
[07:41] <arko> so much so im coming back in ~4months :)
[07:41] <Adam012> Where are you visiting?
[07:42] <Adam012> or studying?
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[07:42] <arko> visiting
[07:42] <arko> gonna see how long i can spend there
[07:43] <arko> greenwich for ukhas 2014, oxford & cam
[07:43] <arko> not for very long though, then off to germany and austria
[07:43] <fsphil> I wouldn't mind going to cam, just to say "I went to Cambridge"
[07:43] <arko> hahahaha
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[07:47] <Adam012> I lived in Oxford a few years back, it's a beautiful city (the other place is alright)
[07:48] <eroomde> i live in opne and lived in the other
[07:48] <eroomde> prefer living in oxford
[07:49] <eroomde> would never want to study here though, of course
[07:50] <Adam012> Studying at Brookes is alright (my wife liked it but my sister in law found the course very poorly run). Studying at Ox Uni was a different story; loved the people and place, hated the long hours
[07:52] <arko> beautiful city
[07:53] <Adam012> Very beautiful, I wish I could still afford it but Oxford house prices are not compatible with the expense of having children unless you have a lot of money.
[07:54] <Laurenceb_> depends where in oxford you go
[07:54] <Laurenceb_> if you lived in Blackbird Lees ....
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[07:56] <Adam012> I lived in Marston, on the street opposite what used to be the Somerset Pub
[07:56] <Laurenceb_> i was in oxford for 4 years :D
[07:57] <Adam012> Even Blackbird Lees was expensive. We've got a 3 bed modern for 3/4 of what we used to pay for a 1.5 bed terrace
[07:57] <Adam012> We were there for five (2005-2010)
[07:57] <Laurenceb_> ah
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[08:26] <amell> RU4HU_Andy_: saw message earlier, you said you heard B-47?
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[09:33] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload - over africa - awesome
[09:33] <SpeedEvil> Err -spain
[09:33] <SpeedEvil> Awesome views of sicily
[09:34] <fsphil> is this the new amateur band dvb system?
[09:35] <SpeedEvil> I haven't found specs on the new camera
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[09:54] <SpeedEvil> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/917.html - ah
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[10:08] <DL7AD> SpeedEvil: its all black
[10:08] <DL7AD> :D
[10:08] <gonzo_> fsphil, low rate dvb-s mopdt probably
[10:09] <gonzo_> most
[10:09] <gonzo_> (I thought they had turned off the ham tv iss tx??)
[10:09] <SpeedEvil> DL7AD: Well - it's night
[10:10] <SpeedEvil> http://space.channel4.com/tracker/ - has a page of where it is
[10:10] <SpeedEvil> Going to be over ocean for half an hour, and will come into daylight over south america
[10:11] <DL7AD> www.n2yo.com
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[10:12] <Adam012> Is anyone available who could help with a little problem?
[10:12] <DL7AD> which type of problem?
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[10:13] <Adam012> Our tracker was displayed on spacenear.us/tracker when we used the old payload doc but it isn't displayed now that we've changed the callsign
[10:14] <craag> Adam012: You'll need to edit the payload doc for the new callsign
[10:14] <Adam012> We made a new payload and flight doc but it still doesn't appear
[10:14] <craag> WHat's the new callsign?
[10:14] <craag> And are you uploading now?
[10:14] <Adam012> Not now but I can..give it a moment.
[10:15] <craag> I'm watching the upload log at: http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[10:15] <craag> That'll tell us if there's any issues
[10:16] <craag> GGRN?
[10:16] <craag> Your lat/lon aren't scaled
[10:17] <craag> so latitude of 525775066.0 isn't valid on this planet!
[10:17] <Adam012> Yes, thanks! Do we just edit that doc?
[10:17] <craag> Yeah, put in a post-parse filter on the lat and lon
[10:17] <craag> divide by 10e7
[10:23] <craag> or 1e7 even!
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[10:25] <Adam012> Thanks! Will do some editing. Got to go and get the helium now!
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[10:26] <craag> cya!
[10:26] <UpuWork> I won't approve the flight doc
[10:26] <UpuWork> until fixed
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[10:58] <Lunar_LanderU> hello
[11:07] <craag> http://sotonastra.co.uk/2014/05/01/successful-test-flight-of-portable-automated-radiosonde-launcher/
[11:07] <craag> GDP/ASTRA video ^^^
[11:12] <daveake> "Successful test flight" ... surely they mean "Successful test *launch*"?
[11:13] <craag> Yeah...
[11:13] <craag> Interesting that they talk about linking buoys back to land with balloons...
[11:14] Action: craag goes fishing for UKHASnet funding
[11:21] <fsphil> fishing. hehe
[11:22] <gonzo_> I thoughvthat was poor phrasing
[11:22] <mfa298> well the flight was successful until the battery failed as well.
[11:23] <craag> mfa298: Did you even see the altitude graph :/
[11:23] <craag> I'm not sure you can do much 'transient phenomena' research with that
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[11:25] <mfa298> technically you could call it a flight - it went up and travelled.
[11:27] <g8zbj_wayne> Anyone getting BARC on 434.649 7n2 370Hz shift??
[11:27] <mfa298> i doubt anyone even knew they had launched
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[11:28] <g8zbj_wayne> I chanced across the signal whilst tuning about.
[11:29] Action: mfa298 wonders which major city they're aiming for this time
[11:30] <fsphil> BARC again? do they have gps this time
[11:31] <daveake> not in logtail .... g8zbj_wayne are you decoding?
[11:32] <g8zbj_wayne> Well the GPS fields are sometimes showing zeros, but they are sometimes giving position
[11:32] <mattbrejza> $BARC,723,0,05:00:00,0.0333,0.2833,26m,34
[11:32] <fsphil> yea I see it
[11:32] <g8zbj_wayne> Decoding yes Dave. Think it is over Oxfordshire
[11:32] <fsphil> fair altitude if I'm receiving it
[11:33] <mattbrejza> which ones are BARC again?
[11:33] <daveake> ok i shall point something at it
[11:33] <fsphil> mystery mattbrejza
[11:33] <fsphil> someone accidently found their signal last time
[11:33] <mattbrejza> 23km i think
[11:33] <fsphil> no gps lock
[11:33] <daveake> bristol uni ?
[11:33] <fsphil> nobody has claimed it
[11:33] <mattbrejza> $BARC,727,0,12:32:54,51.7610,-1.4610,23322m,10
[11:34] <fsphil> 23613m
[11:34] <fsphil> no checksum
[11:34] <mfa298> wasnt barc brunnel or am i getting confused
[11:34] <mattbrejza> hmm dont suppose we can get that to habitat?
[11:34] <mattbrejza> without something to remove the dodgy strings
[11:34] <fsphil> not quickly
[11:35] <fsphil> near oxford?
[11:36] <daveake> $BARC,744,0,51:01:00,0.0000,0.0008,0m,21
[11:36] <daveake> ffs
[11:36] <fsphil> yea it's mostly zero
[11:36] <fsphil> just the odd gps fix
[11:36] <mfa298> interesting time
[11:37] <daveake> Well, at least the ID and count are correct
[11:37] <gonzo_> see it not too strong in dorsetshire
[11:37] <fsphil> not too strong here
[11:37] <daveake> find here from herefordset
[11:37] <daveake> fine
[11:37] <mattbrejza> http://notaminfo.com/ukmap launch from b'ham?
[11:38] <mattbrejza> predictions have it going towards oxford
[11:38] <fsphil> that would fit
[11:38] <fsphil> "Birmingham Arthritis Resource Centre"
[11:38] <fsphil> probably not
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[11:38] <fsphil> http://www.w4cue.com/
[11:39] <fsphil> wrong birmingham
[11:39] <craag> It won't be Basingstoke ARC
[11:39] <craag> I can guarantee that
[11:39] <fsphil> anyone nearby? can wait at the landing site and interrogate them? :)
[11:40] <daveake> and you think someone can find the landing site? :)
[11:40] <fsphil> hah
[11:40] <fsphil> 20461m
[11:40] <fsphil> is it coming down?
[11:40] <fsphil> or was that a bad decode
[11:40] <daveake> 25461m
[11:40] <fsphil> bad decode
[11:40] <daveake> $BARC,771,0,12:40:20,51.7357,-1.4752,25461m,10
[11:41] <LeoBodnar> it's like 10 years back lol
[11:41] <mattbrejza> anyone want to ring the number on the notam? :P
[11:41] <g8zbj_wayne> Still going up
[11:41] <fsphil> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=9a12fd4cf7560f75f89843ff22b550e82044d4fc
[11:41] <fsphil> assuming 30km burst and 5m/s up and down
[11:42] <mattbrejza> $BARC,780,0,12:41:55,51.7298,-1.4799,25926m,10
[11:43] <daveake> 51.7357,-1.4752 is west of Oxford
[11:43] <mattbrejza> 2604m in 9min
[11:43] <mattbrejza> so yea 5m/s
[11:43] <daveake> If I hadn't moved house I might have gone after that
[11:43] <fsphil> didn't think ahead. silly
[11:44] <fsphil> if it does land in your old area I suspect you'll get a call
[11:44] <fsphil> "Lost anything?"
[11:44] <daveake> haha
[11:45] <gonzo_> planning a payload theft!
[11:45] <daveake> ssshh!
[11:45] <fsphil> lol
[11:45] <fsphil> not a theft
[11:45] <fsphil> a re-education
[11:45] <gonzo_> adbuction
[11:45] <daveake> habduction
[11:46] <gonzo_> hehe
[11:47] <gonzo_> very fadey signal
[11:47] <mattbrejza> fine here
[11:47] <craag> taking it to re-habilitation for habs - hab-hab?
[11:47] <mattbrejza> gps behaving now
[11:48] <jonsowman> habitat was originally going to be re-HAB
[11:48] <fsphil> not really improving here at all
[11:48] <daveake> good signal here
[11:48] <gonzo_> more than two gpos packets in tandem, must be the valves are warmming up
[11:49] <gonzo_> are they usiong a binary checksum/crc?
[11:50] <Jededu> Does anybody know anything about stop mask errors in eagle ? http://primarypi.co.uk/stopmask.png
[11:50] <gonzo_> hmmm, or am I only seeing changes in the last chrs with noise
[11:50] <jonsowman> Jededu: turn the mask layer off ;)
[11:50] <daveake> no checksum or crc
[11:50] <mattbrejza> can habitat ignore crc?
[11:51] <Jededu> jonsowman ok ill try
[11:52] <jonsowman> t/bStop iirc
[11:52] <daveake> burst
[11:52] <fsphil> what altitude?
[11:52] <gonzo_> oh, very wobbly
[11:52] <daveake> 28719
[11:52] <fsphil> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=2ca6d8bf16e2359817414bf66ab41d0997a304e4
[11:52] <mattbrejza> burst?
[11:53] <mattbrejza> signal just went to shit
[11:53] <gonzo_> snap 28719
[11:53] <fsphil> heading for Newbury
[11:53] <daveake> yeah, signal went wobbly and next alt was down 200m
[11:53] <daveake> told you I shouldn't have moved :/
[11:53] <daveake> gps has gone to shit again; hopefully it'll start again before landing
[11:55] <Jededu> jonsowman: sorted thx
[11:55] <jonsowman> :)
[11:55] <daveake> $BARC,860,X,12:55:19,51.6931,-1.5263,21246m,10
[11:56] <jonsowman> whose launch is this
[11:56] <mattbrejza> no idea
[11:56] <jonsowman> where do I send the letterbomb for having no checksum?
[11:56] <gonzo_> 863,012:55:49,51.6913,-1.5256,20467
[11:56] <daveake> send it to the landing site
[11:56] <daveake> oh ....
[11:56] <mattbrejza> launched from b'ham
[11:56] <gonzo_> no checksum, it may not get to the right address
[11:56] <jonsowman> lol
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[11:57] <mattbrejza> might have to wait a while for them to collect
[11:57] <jonsowman> sigh
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[11:58] <daveake> $BARC,875,0,12:57:54,51.6792,-1.5217,17649m,10
[11:58] <daveake> $BARC,878,0,12:58:24,51.6754,-1.5183,17068m,10
[11:58] <gonzo_> got to go, will leave rx going and post the last loc when I get back
[11:59] <daveake> 17m/s at 17km. So 'chute is working
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[11:59] <fsphil> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=9a14af3b3c61b2a327827445357dd7567c090fd7
[12:00] <fsphil> faster drop puts it near the M4
[12:00] <daveake> oh lovely
[12:00] <daveake> but it should be slower than that
[12:02] <craag> If it comes down hard then maybe it'll put the GPS out of its misery.
[12:02] <mattbrejza> http://students.guild.bham.ac.uk/astrosoc/Website_Version_2/events.php
[12:02] <mattbrejza> 25th feb was barc L1
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[12:03] <mattbrejza> oh 2012 :P
[12:03] <mfa298> that date seemed to tie in with what I saw grepping my logs I think
[12:03] <mfa298> although 2014 not 2012
[12:04] <mattbrejza> http://www.europeanastrotech.com/article/56/first-high-altitude-balloon-launch-successful/ hmm
[12:04] <daveake> "All payload instrumentation functioned perfectly."
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[12:04] <g8zbj_wayne> 25th feb in my logbook was BARC with no gps fields
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[12:07] <daveake> signal too weak for me now
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[12:07] <mattbrejza> not sure why the time is jumping around so much though
[12:08] <mattbrejza> $BARC,935,0,13:08:02,51.5366,-1.4224,9259m,9
[12:08] <UpuWork> something up ?
[12:08] <mattbrejza> something is
[12:08] <mattbrejza> not sure what
[12:08] <UpuWork> frequency ?
[12:09] <mattbrejza> 649
[12:09] <daveake> .650
[12:09] <mattbrejza> coming down
[12:09] <mfa298> that europeanastrotech link looks like it could be them.
[12:09] <mfa298> looks like they launched a couple of days ago as well reading the blog
[12:09] <craag> mfa298: That's BALYOLO
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[12:11] <sp5nvx> Hi please aprove my flight 70fc03d4f8696ca81dd5c9bc89b7f948
[12:11] <UpuWork> very weak
[12:12] <fsphil> I lost it at about 28km
[12:12] <UpuWork> done sp5nvx
[12:12] <mfa298> ah yes they launched on 25/2 as well. I was thinking matt's dective work had got it.
[12:12] <UpuWork> I won't flight doc it as they simply may not want to be public
[12:12] <UpuWork> why would you transmit m and no checksum
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[12:13] <mattbrejza> well no checksum so you cant have a payload doc
[12:13] <mattbrejza> weird how each time is 10s apart, almost as if using gps power saving mode
[12:13] <UpuWork> 10 sec cyclic ?
[12:13] <mattbrejza> or just each string is exactly 10s long
[12:13] <mattbrejza> yea when ive done power saving it outputs every 10s so thats why i was wondering
[12:14] <jonsowman> wonder if you can hotfix a crc appender
[12:14] <craag> not exactly ;)
[12:14] <mattbrejza> since it started behaving its been every 10s
[12:14] <jonsowman> s/can/should/, to which the answer is defintiely no
[12:14] <craag> oh.. that was corrupt, nvm
[12:14] <mattbrejza> if i had eclipse installed i would have modified by decoder to add a checksum and remove the 'm' from a;titude
[12:14] <mattbrejza> *my
[12:15] <mattbrejza> $BARC,972,0,13:14:12,51.4561,-1.3724,5849m,9
[12:15] <mattbrejza> $BRC,973,0,13:14:22,51.4547,-1.3712,5764m,9
[12:15] <mattbrejza> $BARC,974,0,13:14:32,51.4534,-1.3701,5679m,9
[12:15] <mattbrejza> $BARC,975,0,13:14:42,51.4522,-1.3691,5595m,9
[12:15] <UpuWork> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=997d94e8b01f8e1756e4ae4afffb781f495cd649
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[12:16] <daveake> Quite close to the A34
[12:16] <daveake> busy road
[12:17] <mfa298> at least that's slightly better than the M4
[12:17] <daveake> true
[12:17] <daveake> only 4 lanes to choose from not 6
[12:17] <daveake> but that prediction is ok if it follows it
[12:18] <daveake> plenty of trees to cushion the landing
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[12:18] <craag> mattbrejza: Looks to me like the string is almost 10s, but then it waits on the next NMEA sentence to send, so is exactly every 10s
[12:18] <craag> The idle periods appear to be a bit variable
[12:19] <mattbrejza> probably not power saving mode
[12:19] <mattbrejza> cant see them doing power saving but no checksum
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[12:21] <craag> deep fading on the websdr
[12:21] <mattbrejza> slightly fady here
[12:22] <mattbrejza> $BARC,1018,0,13:21:52,51.4088,-1.3340,2100m,9
[12:22] <mattbrejza> $BARC,1019,0,13:22:02,51.4080,-1.3334,2026m,9
[12:22] <mattbrejza> $BARC,1020,0,13:22:12,51.4072,-1.3328,1950m,9
[12:23] <craag> 1365m
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[12:25] <mattbrejza> 810m
[12:26] <mattbrejza> $BARC,1036,0,13:24:52,51.3969,-1.3382,810m,9
[12:26] <mattbrejza> iC,1037,0,13:25:02,51.3962,-1.3390,743m,9
[12:26] <mattbrejza> $BARC,1038,0,13:25:12,51.3956,-1.3398,675m,9
[12:26] <mattbrejza> $BARC,1039,0,13:25:22,51.3950,-1.3407,606m,9
[12:26] <mattbrejza> $BARC,1040,0,13:25:32,51.39tt,-1:3416,40m,9
[12:26] <mattbrejza> %BRC,1041,0,e3:24,51.3;8,-1.3424 69m,9
[12:26] <mattbrejza> $BAR,1002R 1#:2%:40,51.393L-1.3,400m,9
[12:26] <mattbrejza> $BARC,1043,~!:26:02,51.729,&43y2p7,dd0,
[12:26] <mattbrejza> oops
[12:26] <mattbrejza> perhaps a few t oo many
[12:27] <craag> 1044: 51.3924,-1.344_
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[12:39] <malgar> why do you add m?
[12:40] <malgar> to elevation?
[12:41] <mfa298> almost no one does
[12:41] <eroomde> it's not normal
[12:41] <mfa298> I don't think we know who BARC are yet to ask them why they do, or why there's no checksum
[12:41] <eroomde> but we are a broad church
[12:42] <eroomde> so long as you play safe you can do what you want
[12:42] <eroomde> just don't do anything unsafe
[12:42] <eroomde> like using inmperial units
[12:42] <mfa298> hmmm, could habitat copy with an altitude of 10000'
[12:42] <Laurenceb__> lolz
[12:43] <mfa298> s/copy/cope
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[12:44] <mattbrejza> if its not in their interest to be public about it, then they can use whatever standard they want
[12:44] <mattbrejza> although no checksum is a bit silly
[12:45] <mfa298> if they couldn't be bothered to add a checksum even adding * would at least mean dl-fldigi should reckognise it as a string, like that I don't think it will (or does it need something following the * as well)
[12:46] <daveake> I had a customer who wanted me to put checksums on all internal comms and *not* to put checksums on external radio comms
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[12:46] <mfa298> that sounds like adding your own packet sequence checkign into a tcp stream but not for a udp stream.
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[12:48] <mattbrejza> also one $ instead of two $$
[12:48] <eroomde> cheapskates
[12:49] <mfa298> those $ and * symbols must cost a lot wherever they're from
[12:49] <fsphil> really they should be using £
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[12:55] <eroomde> don't think £ is in ascii 7
[12:55] <fsphil> good point
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[12:56] <eroomde> let's patch fldigi to use unicode
[12:56] <fsphil> they had previously
[12:56] <eroomde> the codebase is so elegant and modular that it should be no problem
[12:56] <fsphil> it caused all sorts of problems
[12:56] <eroomde> oh
[12:56] <eroomde> surprising
[12:56] <fsphil> the scrolling bug was caused by them assuming unicode
[12:56] <fsphil> but the textbox couldn't work out how far to scroll when wider characters appeared
[12:58] <eroomde> sigh
[12:59] <eroomde> well, the load balancing seems to be working
[12:59] <eroomde> now 3 of us can watch youtube at work simultaneously
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[12:59] <eroomde> good business decision decision, getting that set up
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[14:39] <tweetBot> @daveake: Heston, We Have A Potato #raspberrypi #UKHAS http://t.co/xstKZ9rfyT
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[15:32] <jarod> http://9gag.com/gag/anY0xM0 who's antenna is that? :D
[15:33] <eroomde> bbc.co.uk/news
[15:34] <jarod> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA3SvSpacak
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[15:36] <mfa298> eroomde: stuff has happened most of it bad or of limited use (at least that's all we'll tell you about), here ends the roundup
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[15:44] <Maxell> jarod: sick
[15:45] <Maxell> jarod: 1,5 mm² earth-wire I have for my antenna ground-net won't stop this :P
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[15:48] <Maxell> jarod: source + higher resolution: https://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiod/7734495598/
[15:49] <Maxell> 4288×2848 pixels 6,3 MB :P
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[16:09] <mclane_> question regarding the habhub mobile tracker: gps localisation only works with android?
[16:12] <mclane_> not in windows?
[16:14] <WillTablet> eroomde: wait, why the BBC news link?
[16:18] <mfa298> mclane_: it uses location information from the browser. If you can get your browser on windows to use a gps location then it should be able to plot your position
[16:21] <mfa298> WillTablet: I assume he was getting the browser and irc mixed up.
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[16:33] <Willdude123> mfa298, did I mention I figured what's wrong with my program?
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[16:51] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[16:58] <g0pai_ian> I guess that what was wrong with it WillTablet, was that it didn't work properly :) A case of too many different usernames perhaps?
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[17:00] <g0pai_ian> oops that should have been Willdude123, WillTablet . . . easily confused here!
[17:00] <g0pai_ian> I bet that you were reusing a variable and overwriting something.
[17:02] <Willdude123> Nope. I was implementing bubble sort (explained here through the medium of interpretive dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZQPjUT5B4) and I forgot to iterate over an array multiple times.
[17:02] <Willdude123> Not sure it was the problem though
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[17:06] <mfa298> that's where good print statements are a good debug tool. I'd have probably printed the array out after each itteration.
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[17:07] <jonathan-b> hi everybody. thanks for the ongoing help with stuff. Wondering what you guys think of this GPS? https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11858
[17:07] <g0pai_ian> Yes, I saw the YouTube clip yesterday evening, quite well done. I wonder how many beers it took to get willing performers. Something for a school's summer open day - alas without the beers!
[17:07] <mfa298> it's also good to test with various inputs, especially things like [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10] and [10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1]
[17:07] <jonathan-b> it seems to be rated up to 50k ft which seems good
[17:08] <mfa298> jonathan-b: 50k ft isn't that high.
[17:08] <mfa298> 50000 ft
[17:08] <SIbot> In real units: 50000 ft = 15 km
[17:08] <jonathan-b> about half of target altitude
[17:08] <jonathan-b> 30-33km
[17:08] <mfa298> the record is around 3 times that height
[17:09] <jonathan-b> trying to find something other than the uBlox
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[17:09] <jonathan-b> well, im estimating a 30-35km burst height
[17:09] <mfa298> uBlox is what almost everyone uses for good reason
[17:09] <jonathan-b> im thinking to avoid it because i will be sharing a serial port with the radio transmitter.
[17:10] <jonathan-b> i i'd like to just be able to do Tx to the transmitter and Rx from the GPS
[17:10] <jonathan-b> if i go uBlox i will end up Tx and Rx for the GPS
[17:10] <jonathan-b> and have to share the Tx with the radio then
[17:10] <mclane_> no you can use I2c on ublox
[17:11] <mfa298> you could use the uBlox in much the same way it'll just cut out at some height 12km or 15km in much the same way as that one would
[17:11] <jonathan-b> why would it cut out at that altitude?
[17:11] <mfa298> there's always the option of i2c for the ublox although that requires bit banging i2c (assuming your on the pi)
[17:12] <mfa298> you said it was rated for 50k feet, so 15km
[17:12] <jonathan-b> the one i mentioned above was, yes.
[17:12] <jonathan-b> i thought you were talking about the ublox
[17:13] <craag> ublox will stop reporting at 18km
[17:13] <Willdude123> mfa298, in fact, the issue seems a bit more complex than I though
[17:13] <craag> As the mode it's in by default limits to that altitude.
[17:13] <mfa298> the ublox will give you a lower limit if you don't connect tx (which seemed to be your aim). if you connect tx and configure it into flight mode you'll get 50km
[17:14] <craag> But with the sharing of the serial port, you can open it and talk to the GPS at 9600 baud, then close it and open it again at 50/300 for RTTY
[17:14] <craag> The NTX2B will filter out the 9600 baud
[17:14] <craag> And the ublox will ignore anything at 50/300
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[17:15] <mfa298> looks like the uBlox on a breakout is also cheaper so a better buy
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[17:17] <jonathan-b> http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=68
[17:17] <jonathan-b> hab store ships to the states?
[17:18] <Willdude123> g0pai_ian, an O(n log n) algorithm would be great fun to act out.
[17:18] <craag> jonathan-b: yes
[17:18] <jonathan-b> (y)
[17:18] <jonathan-b> thx
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[17:28] <Willdude123> A load of zeroes are being appended to the array somehow
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[17:31] <mfa298> Willdude123: this is where good print statements can help. e.g. are the same number of 0's being appended each loop, or is the number of added zeros linked to some other factor (like number of items swapped over)
[17:32] <mfa298> good print statemnts should tell you that fairly quickly. Bad print statements will just clutter the screen and not help.
[17:32] <Willdude123> Wait, I made a gdb syntax error
[17:32] <craag> B-48 up
[17:32] <Willdude123> False alarm
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[17:35] <Laurenceb__> anyone here got bluetooth rfcomm working under linux?
[17:35] <Laurenceb__> im having issues :-/
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[17:36] <Laurenceb__> it cant find a PTY
[17:37] <Laurenceb__> whatever the hell one is
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[17:38] <Willdude123> Ah
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[17:39] <Willdude123> It repeated while the array hadn't changed, not while it had and as such only ran once, which is why I had similar problems.
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[17:42] <Willdude123> Woop
[17:42] <Willdude123> It works
[17:42] <Willdude123> Tbh, it was a simple error I'm embarrassed to have not noticed
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[17:45] <Willdude123> Now *this* would be fun with hungarian dancers: I don't know about you all but I'd quite like to th
[17:45] <Willdude123> dahm
[17:45] <Willdude123> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogosort
[17:46] <Willdude123> I never did figure out the copy and paste function of windows
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[17:59] <Willdude123> http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/02/iss-hd-earth-viewing/?ncid=rss_truncated&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb
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[18:06] <LeoBodnar> #habhub
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[18:17] <craag> DL7AD: When using the websdr, please set your location to that of the websdr
[18:17] <craag> Otherwise it looks ridiculous on the map
[18:18] <DL7AD> give me a sec
[18:18] <craag> cheers :)
[18:18] Action: Willdude123 checks for funcube passes
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[18:31] <Lunar_Lander> hi craag LeoBodnar DL7AD
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[18:32] <DL7AD> hi Lunar_Lander
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[18:40] <amell> B-48 flying, Leo you sly bugger slipping that in on a friday evening.
[18:40] <craag> It's like he knows we don't have anything else to do!
[18:40] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
[18:40] <Lunar_Lander> LeoBodnar is a star
[18:40] <Lunar_Lander> did you know that?
[18:41] <craag> I'm liking the idea of trying to match him with gps-less UKHASnet floaters
[18:41] <amell> yeah, he really needs to launch from California or somewhere like that, it would be long duration then
[18:41] <craag> Tracking by RSSI
[18:43] <Lunar_Lander> craag, ah earlier I like saw that the auto-launcher worked?
[18:43] <craag> Lunar_Lander: Yeah it did
[18:43] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[18:43] <craag> On only their 3rd live test
[18:43] <Lunar_Lander> how was it?
[18:43] <craag> SHame about the payload though
[18:43] <daveake> Is that 3 flights this week with trackers that didn't work 100%?
[18:44] <Lunar_Lander> yea, I think I got YOLO did not work correctly
[18:44] <craag> daveake: I'm sure you'll break that combo on sunday
[18:44] <craag> ;)
[18:44] Action: daveake checks batteries
[18:44] <daveake> :)
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> :) cool
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> dave, Upu, Leo = guranteed quality
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[18:46] <chrisg7ogx> are you volunteering to finance his flight?!!
[18:47] <G4MYS-Andy> how does one bring up the B48 selection ?
[18:47] <craag> G4MYS-Andy: Flight doc is not approved
[18:47] <craag> Just set to Contestia 8/250
[18:47] <craag> And enable RSId
[18:47] <G4MYS-Andy> Craag OK Many thanks but folk are tracking it how come then?
[18:48] <craag> Set it up, and as long as you get the right mode, it'll still upload to the map
[18:48] <craag> Just means there's no autoconfigure
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[18:50] <chrisg7ogx> i have green data but not on the map
[18:50] <G4MYS-Andy> craag confusion also because my D:Lfligi needed resetting still pleanty of signal no decode!
[18:51] <craag> G4MYS-Andy: What mode are you in?
[18:51] <mfa298> with rxID if you go into the settings and tell it to search the whole spectrum and then enable rxID (top right) you don't need to do anything else. it will automatically detect the rxid packet and tune within the audio spectrum
[18:51] <G4MYS-Andy> RTTYR
[18:51] <craag> not RTTY
[18:51] <craag> Contestia 8/250
[18:51] <G4MYS-Andy> try ing to work it out!!!
[18:52] <craag> 'Op Mode' at top => 'Contestia' => '8/250'
[18:52] <craag> Then center it on the blips
[18:52] <G4MYS-Andy> got CTSTIA 8/250 selected
[18:53] <craag> Cool, now select RxID in th top right, so it has a green light
[18:53] <craag> Then it'll track drift
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[18:54] <craag> Next packet coming up..
[18:54] <G4MYS-Andy> done the rxid many thanks what a difference that makes !!!
[18:54] <craag> arggh GB3ET ident in the middle :(
[18:54] <craag> G4MYS-Andy: Decode on the map :)
[18:55] <G4MYS-Andy> in me excit,emnt ive lost the map!!!
[18:55] <craag> http://habmap.philcrump.co.uk/?vehicles=B-48
[18:56] <chrisg7ogx> IT IS STILL EXCITING!
[18:56] <G4MYS-Andy> no w ill put up the experimentle aerial again many thanks
[18:58] <craag> chrisg7ogx: Do you get a message after the green decode in the bar at the bottom of dlfldigi?
[18:58] <chrisg7ogx> i have green light rxid received ok AFC flickering but not on the map
[18:59] <chrisg7ogx> no, and i usually do. so not linked?
[18:59] <craag> chrisg7ogx: screenshot?
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[19:03] <chrisg7ogx> sorry craag dropbox is full!
[19:04] <craag> Ok, you mentioned AFC flickering? It should be greyed out in Contestia Mode
[19:04] <chrisg7ogx> sigs received fine with RSID showing
[19:04] <craag> Ok, try closing and re-opening?
[19:05] <chrisg7ogx> i have DonEx 16 in Multi mode window as i tried to use auto config of b47
[19:05] <craag> Ok, try setting Contestia manually
[19:05] <craag> 'Op Mode' at top => 'Contestia' => '8/250'
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[19:06] <chrisg7ogx> "uploading any remaining queued items to server"
[19:06] <craag> when closing?
[19:06] <craag> closed yet or still going?
[19:06] <chrisg7ogx> yurp
[19:06] <chrisg7ogx> still going
[19:07] <craag> force close it
[19:07] <craag> No reason it should take that long
[19:07] <chrisg7ogx> yeas think it stuck on link
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[19:08] <chrisg7ogx> ctsia 8/250 bottom left domex 16 in multi mode window on restarting
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[19:09] <craag> Ok, next packet in approx 60s
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[19:10] <chrisg7ogx> now
[19:10] <mauhen> Evening all, what is the frequency and modulation for B-48?
[19:10] <craag> mauhen: 434.500 Contestia 8/250
[19:10] <mauhen> Ta
[19:11] <craag> chrisg7ogx: Any messages at the bottom?
[19:11] <craag> (I notice you're not up there)
[19:11] <chrisg7ogx> unready rx markers in fldigi went back to 1500¬!
[19:11] <G4MYS-Andy> craag back now having up up the test aerial and caught my finger in the spanner! many thanks Ill monitor with interest Andy
[19:12] <chrisg7ogx> that was quick
[19:13] <chrisg7ogx> rerady
[19:14] <G4MYS-Andy> well its allready to go up, I hang it off the sat pole! been playing with a 145Mhz version of a 868Mhz aerial and the test kit batt died! not my night!!
[19:14] <craag> here we go!
[19:14] <chrisg7ogx> now
[19:14] <craag> Nice one chrisg7ogx
[19:15] <craag> You're on the map :)
[19:15] <craag> Right, tech support is off to get some dinner.
[19:15] <chrisg7ogx> tks very much craag appreciated
[19:16] <craag> np
[19:16] <G4MYS-Andy> Craag and thsanks form me too! Andy Pandy
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[19:23] <nats`> if no more french station show up I'll activate mine
[19:23] <nats`> south west is my best view :)
[19:25] <G4MYS-Andy> it no too high south east is my best the way its going but Ill lose it over Northern France ASTRA will track it further south then me as they are higher and more inthe clear .... Andy In Southampton
[19:26] <chrisg7ogx> tracking south
[19:27] <G4MYS-Andy> and... it does seem to be that strong?
[19:27] <chrisg7ogx> andy agree not as strong as usual
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[20:02] <craag> Expensive project by SSC https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1592839372/virtual-ride-to-space-using-the-oculus-rift
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[20:03] <craag> Not sure how it ends up being 30 grand though
[20:04] <mattbrejza> enough for some cockups?
[20:04] <craag> Losing the payload a few times :P
[20:04] <chrisg7ogx_> quite a lot of drift now f f f frezing up there!
[20:04] <Steve_G0TDJ> ****** For anyone who is interested, the Heston Blumenthall pogramme with daveake just started on 4Seven ******
[20:05] <craag> I saw it on twitter as SSC has leant them an FCD, so hopefully they're looking at radio tracking.
[20:05] <craag> *lent
[20:05] <chrisg7ogx_> what is he doing?
[20:05] <Steve_G0TDJ> Watch and find out ;-)
[20:05] <chrisg7ogx_> channel 4?
[20:06] <chrisg7ogx_> cooking with altitude???!!!!
[20:06] <Steve_G0TDJ> No, 4Seven, Sky channel 140
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[20:06] <Steve_G0TDJ> Going to watch it - See you later guys!
[20:07] <Steve_G0TDJ> ..
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[20:07] <chrisg7ogx_> new to me tks
[20:17] <G4MYS-Andy> is it me or is this ballon drifting badly?
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[20:22] <chrisg7ogx_> no its not you it is
[20:23] <chrisg7ogx_> my RSID can't keep up with it
[20:24] <chrisg7ogx_> on tx number 91 frequency wobbled a bit on TX. Frequency jitter
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[20:24] <chrisg7ogx_> those pies look iffy!
[20:26] <G4MYS-Andy> Thanks Cris so its going to be a long night!!!
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[20:28] <chrisg7ogx_> yes tweaking vfos
[20:29] <chrisg7ogx_> the balloon is reporting temp of minus 46!
[20:29] <G4MYS-Andy> yep yopu got it! shame the radios cant chase it up and down the band!!!
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[20:30] <chrisg7ogx_> freq dropping quite quick now..hope it doesn't go to bed
[20:30] <chrisg7ogx_> I'll have to link SDR console with HRD
[20:31] <G4MYS-Andy> -46 cold ! mind you were forecast for -2 tonight and its May!! 6 weeks off longest day!
[20:32] <chrisg7ogx_> WX guys would tell us it is not unusual
[20:34] <G4MYS-Andy> err no there was snow on the Isle of Wight in June..... 1880 something! so its not unknown
[20:34] <chrisg7ogx_> you look good for your age!
[20:34] <chrisg7ogx_> are you using RSID on fldigi?
[20:35] <G4MYS-Andy> RXid yes
[20:35] <chrisg7ogx_> is it jumping to the rceived signal ok ?
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[20:36] <G4MYS-Andy> well yes but the rx signal is walking across the screen!
[20:36] <chrisg7ogx_> yes thats not unusual
[20:37] <chrisg7ogx_> Leo's B series are usually very stable so I think it must be unusually cold up there
[20:37] <G4MYS-Andy> well yes wander across the screen but this is rest VFO, wab nder across screen reset VFO and etc!
[20:38] <chrisg7ogx_> it is a gradual stroll downwards
[20:38] <G4MYS-Andy> both VFOs on the 897 and the Fairhaven!
[20:39] <chrisg7ogx_> that fairhaven was a little before its' time
[20:40] <chrisg7ogx_> were the manufacturers bought up?
[20:40] <G4MYS-Andy> this is true, and now the market has vapourised, each Fairhaven was in effect a preproduction model, there are many reninements between each batch!
[20:41] <G4MYS-Andy> How do I know - we built them, I have one of the last ones which were never offered to the public, those of us who built them finished the last 4 mibe is less some srews as we ran out!!
[20:42] <chrisg7ogx_> maybe they were an example of the British with a good idea but..?
[20:42] <chrisg7ogx_> i used to drool over the advert in mags!!
[20:43] <chrisg7ogx_> very nice looking
[20:43] <majemoi> can you give me B48 frequency and modulation type?
[20:44] <chrisg7ogx_> contestia 8/250 434.500 with feq wander downwards
[20:44] <mauhen> Got my first contestia 8/250 decode :)
[20:44] <G4MYS-Andy> he wanted to build a transceiver, and this was part way to that end, they are a very nice radio very rearely seen on Ebay and based around a phillips TV tuner.. I have several spares and of couse the alinement info, its a real pity he never went for HF!
[20:45] <chrisg7ogx_> yes a big pity
[20:45] <chrisg7ogx_> congrats mauhen
[20:45] <majemoi> many thanks
[20:46] <chrisg7ogx_> stby for two quick pips then 3 quick pips then RSID then Contestia i will give you "now" when 2c pips
[20:47] <G4MYS-Andy> I was nevcer involved with the Fairhavens I built the HF radios under a differnt brand name AEL 2020 AEL 2050 HF kit channised stuff solidly built tock one off the production line one day and shoved it on 40M for a laugh worked several stations and the firm Tannoy!
[20:47] <chrisg7ogx_> now
[20:47] <chrisg7ogx_> LOL
[20:47] <mauhen> Thanks Chris
[20:48] <chrisg7ogx_> need anymore countdowns?
[20:48] <G4MYS-Andy> see main station lost it due to drift!
[20:48] <chrisg7ogx_> in auto probably
[20:49] <chrisg7ogx_> insulation must be very good onboard balloon
[20:49] <G4MYS-Andy> its seems to miss a dit form time to time!
[20:50] <chrisg7ogx_> yes i think that is the end of one cycle and begining of the next...reset
[20:51] <G4MYS-Andy> an interesting insight
[20:51] <chrisg7ogx_> mauhen need anymore countdowns
[20:51] <chrisg7ogx_> i'm a black box op!
[20:53] <chrisg7ogx_> that was a reset
[20:54] <mauhen> No Chris I have a deaf rx and poor antenna location so it is out of range for me now, I think it was majemoi who was using the countdowns.
[20:55] <G4MYS-Andy> So Am I chris, and to be fair so were the AEL radios we we had to aline them same with the Fairhavens a collection of modules Assembled PCBs but we assembled them alined etc and still have each ones records not that wed admit it!
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[20:56] <chrisg7ogx_> very Amstrad!
[20:56] <chrisg7ogx_> ok cheers mauhen
[20:56] <G4MYS-Andy> Chris whats your thoughts on the battery?
[20:58] <nats`> I'm wondering if I should startup my station
[20:58] <G4MYS-Andy> If you dont try you dont get is that a good reason?
[20:59] <chrisg7ogx_> do it
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[20:59] <chrisg7ogx_> two AAs i think
[20:59] <chrisg7ogx_> website with good pix somewhere
[21:00] <G4MYS-Andy> My r test aerial as G4MYS-2 has almost lost it, think the aerial is directional but it is also very low.
[21:00] <nats`> chrisg7ogx_ ?
[21:00] <nats`> there are many station around
[21:00] <chrisg7ogx_> practice
[21:01] <chrisg7ogx_> sigs strength dropping here now
[21:02] <nats`> 434.5 no drift ?
[21:03] <G4MYS-Andy> they have not been high with me Cris, but they have been stable and once worked how how to decode - easy the B series are asy to work with iyt would be intereting to know what type of Tx aerial is used with this series of flights cause hes got hte right idea.
[21:05] <chrisg7ogx_> i think it is wire in plastic straws have a look on HAB website there are some great pix somewhere
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[21:07] <craag> The B- series use the guitar string antennas
[21:08] <chrisg7ogx_> partials only now
[21:08] <bertrik> does it matter somehow that a guitar string is wound like a coil? and can you solder to it?
[21:09] <G4MYS-Andy> guitar strings?! well ! think that may be part of the secrect keep the aerial firm and in place!
[21:09] <craag> There's a certain type that you can solder to
[21:09] <chrisg7ogx_> a coil is a compromise over a straight antenna
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[21:09] <craag> Upu posted the ebay link in here a while ago
[21:09] <daveake> I'm using the same stuff on Sunday. It's not coiled.
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[21:10] <craag> In fact I was meaning to grab some - will dig out the link
[21:10] <chrisg7ogx_> daveake were you on the goggle box earlier?
[21:10] <daveake> no :)
[21:11] <chrisg7ogx_> oh it was a joke then soz
[21:11] <craag> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ERNIE-BALL-CUSTOM-GAUGE-SINGLE-STRINGS-ELEC-ACOUS-13-/350410462675?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:GB:3160
[21:11] <daveake> This is what I have http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ERNIE-BALL-CUSTOM-GAUGE-SINGLE-STRINGS-ELEC-ACOUS-13-/350410462675?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:GB:3160
[21:11] <G4MYS-Andy> I spotted a breif clip of one of the ballons on a TV trailer earier today...
[21:11] <daveake> Suspiciously similar link :)
[21:11] <craag> lol daveake ;)
[21:12] <craag> Hacked into your browser :P
[21:12] <daveake> gmail
[21:12] <chrisg7ogx_> i thought it was, "cooking with Altitude"!
[21:13] <arko> did you guys eat the potato?
[21:13] Action: arko doesnt get channel 4
[21:13] <daveake> Ha, no
[21:13] <daveake> I believe he had it frozen after
[21:13] <daveake> by which time it was sprouting
[21:13] <arko> haha
[21:13] <arko> fair enough
[21:14] <daveake> The whole "send it up to break down the cells" was all made up afterwards
[21:14] <chrisg7ogx_> Andy g4mys you're doing well
[21:14] <daveake> When they asked me, my first question was "Are you expecting anything to happen to this potato?"
[21:14] <daveake> and they said "no, just send it up, for fun"
[21:15] <daveake> it was /supposed/ to be just because the potato was the first veg grown in space
[21:15] <daveake> on the ISS I think
[21:15] <daveake> they were still discussing how to tie it into the show when we were in the chase car
[21:15] <daveake> so, not much planning
[21:15] <arko> haha
[21:16] <daveake> lot of fun though
[21:16] <arko> :)
[21:16] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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[21:17] <G4MYS-Andy> This is my best direction ive got Southampton water on my horizon this way, plus I am reyuning the VFO during the data transmission to get the data but its almost at my limit now
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[21:18] <chrisg7ogx_> vy weak with me now on diamond x500 white stick
[21:19] <chrisg7ogx_> beam was only 10 feet above ground so it did well
[21:19] <SIbot> In real units: 10 ft = 3.05 m
[21:19] <chrisg7ogx_> Mr real units works late 10 feet!!
[21:19] <SIbot> In real units: 10 ft = 3.05 m
[21:20] <chrisg7ogx_> 6 inches
[21:21] <chrisg7ogx_> gone now g night all looks like a big day tomorrow
[21:21] <G4MYS-Andy> main aerial is 33ft up the -2 aerial is 12 feet up that real feet or 144inches so what spybot makes of that!
[21:21] <SIbot> In real units: 33 ft = 10 m
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[21:25] <f1ieh> hello
[21:25] <G4MYS-Andy> good evening!
[21:26] <G4MYS-Andy> want to track a ballon?
[21:28] <f1ieh> yes, where can I find information for the B-48 balloon ?
[21:28] <DL7AD> f1ieh: nowhere. there hasnt been made an information page about
[21:29] <f1ieh> 434.500 MHz I think !
[21:29] <craag> Yep, contestia 8/250 every 5 minutes
[21:29] <DL7AD> f1ieh: its currently below due to low temperature
[21:29] <G4MYS-Andy> 433.498 itsCTSTIA 8/250 then set RX id in top right hand corner to on dl fldgi should then work...
[21:29] <craag> beeps inbetween
[21:29] <f1ieh> tnx !
[21:30] <DL7AD> f1ieh: B-48 is similar to B-10: http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-10/
[21:30] <G4MYS-Andy> its so weak Ive almost lost if if you can track at we will know where its going!!
[21:30] <f1ieh> I am on fldigi HAB, Est from Le Mans
[21:30] <G4MYS-Andy> good!
[21:31] <G4MYS-Andy> I can only just just hear it
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[21:33] <G4MYS-Andy> I see F5VMH has got a good track of it!
[21:33] <Reb-SM3ULC> b48, the high speed version
[21:33] <G4MYS-Andy> high alitude version its at 10,000 M!
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[21:34] <nats_laptop> live from kitchen station on air
[21:34] <DL7AD> nats_laptop: :D
[21:34] <G4MYS-Andy> ths what I am in was the bathroom fdoes that count?
[21:35] <nats_laptop> I don't want to know what you do when tracking balloon :p
[21:35] <DL7AD> :P
[21:35] <nats_laptop> ohhh sh***t this evening QRM is worse that usual
[21:36] <nats_laptop> how are you DL7AD ? :)
[21:36] <DL7AD> nats_laptop: fine thx :)
[21:36] <G4MYS-Andy> It WAS a Wicks Bathroom so I had to rip it out wwhen the floor rotted out!!!
[21:36] <nats_laptop> :D
[21:37] <nats_laptop> you dirty little boy :p
[21:38] <G4MYS-Andy> We aim to please!
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[21:38] <DL7AD> be happy that he was unable to transmit :P
[21:40] <nats_laptop> it drift like hell
[21:40] <nats_laptop> I have it and I see the drift during the constestia TX
[21:40] <G4MYS-Andy> lost part of the stream that time cant hear the pips any more sop assume ive lost it!
[21:41] <nats_laptop> Before RSID: <<2014-05-02T21:39Z Contestia @ 100+0424>>
[21:41] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,130,213941,140502,47.8736,0.1733,9945,8,:C%
[21:41] <nats_laptop> 3H6,0*
[21:41] <nats_laptop> F+L/
[21:42] <G4MYS-Andy> you may need to hang on to the VFO during the sring broadcast to hold the decode steady
[21:43] <nats_laptop> fl-digi can do that ?
[21:43] <nats_laptop> I still don't know how to use my VR5000 I lend my ft857
[21:43] <nats_laptop> that's fun it only drift during contestia because of the rf chip heating
[21:44] <G4MYS-Andy> Ive not heard the lastest string now out of range to me!
[21:44] <nats_laptop> Before RSID: <<2014-05-02T21:43Z Contestia @ 100+0676>>
[21:44] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,132,214344,140502,47.7392,0.1948,9952,8,-47,3.61,0*CD9D
[21:45] <G4MYS-Andy> nats that looks about right
[21:45] <nats_laptop> refused I think
[21:45] <G4MYS-Andy> nats so where your rx?
[21:45] <nats_laptop> in the tail seemsto have a problem
[21:45] <nats_laptop> south of paris
[21:46] <nats_laptop> yep got it
[21:46] <nats_laptop> check the station just over paris
[21:48] <nats_laptop> is there a settings in fldigi to auto track <,
[21:48] <nats_laptop> ?
[21:48] <nats_laptop> -47 ° now
[21:48] <nats_laptop> Before RSID: <<2014-05-02T21:48Z Contestia @ 100+0683>>
[21:48] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,134,214747,140502,47.6047,0.215,9949,8,-47,3.6,0*87AB
[21:49] <nats_laptop> something makes me feel my mother don't like the ethereal noise :p
[21:50] <nats_laptop> ouh drifting hard
[21:50] <nats_laptop> like something is heating
[21:52] <nats_laptop> Before RSID: <<2014-05-02T21:52Z Contestia @ 100+0788>>
[21:52] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,136,215147,140502,47.4716,0.2336,9942,8,-47,3.6,0*7ECA
[21:53] <DL7AD> *thumbs up*
[21:53] <nats_laptop> is it normal it seems to have a second sentence following each time
[21:53] <nats_laptop> or maybe fl digi decoding crap
[21:56] <nats_laptop> I think I beat my record
[21:56] <G4MYS-Andy> seems to drift one way during ID string then drift the other way i untill next string, during the process walking across the screen, its walked over 3Khz this evening so think you may needs to have hand on VFO during beacon streams ive not beaten my record this evening but I know that my exoperimentle aerial at 4M above the ground works well!
[21:57] <G4MYS-Andy> dont forget its about -48C up there so I guess being stable is quite an acheivement1
[21:57] <nats_laptop> G4MYS-Andy, it's drifting upper on ID and contestia tx and goes lower before
[21:57] <nats_laptop> that's normal the chip is heating the tcxo
[21:58] <nats_laptop> and since the Leo tcxo is about 20° out of spec....
[21:58] <nats_laptop> that's pretty impressie
[21:58] <nats_laptop> impressive
[21:58] <malgar> is there a prediction for b48?
[21:58] <G4MYS-Andy> I guess its just keeping us on our toes!
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[21:58] <nats_laptop> malgar, it'll reach australia by tomorrow
[21:58] <malgar> ..
[21:58] <G4MYS-Andy> B48 to go SouthEast over Central France
[21:58] <nats_laptop> should be near Mars by Two month
[21:58] <nats_laptop> ;)
[21:59] <G4MYS-Andy> B48 ? sorry wrong answer!
[21:59] <nats_laptop> time to turn the yagi :)
[22:00] <G4MYS-Andy> B48 current to land near Tours but dont bet on that! its stable and no sign of going POP!
[22:00] <nats_laptop> Before RSID: <<2014-05-02T22:00Z Contestia @ 100+0748>>
[22:00] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,140,215953,140502,47.2019,0.2708,9970,9,:D%3(:VLPJ$#XR<<@@P@X2 :
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[22:00] <nats_laptop> ouch qrm
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[22:01] <G4MYS-Andy> good when they have two TX frequencies, despite being in centre of town I have little QRM rather nice really
[22:02] <G4MYS-Andy> Its gone 2300 Local so I throw out the cat and say none night 73 Lads de G4MYS +KN
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[22:03] <nats_laptop> signal starts to be weak for me
[22:03] <Reb-SM3ULC> no aprs on b48?
[22:03] <G4MYS-Andy> dont know! de G4MYS 73
[22:04] <nats_laptop> not over france
[22:04] <G4MYS-Andy> not allowed they dont like it!! but its heading for Spain
[22:04] <Reb-SM3ULC> nats_laptop: thought it was aloud
[22:04] <malgar> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/127066_trj001.gif
[22:04] <Reb-SM3ULC> spelling... doh
[22:04] <nats_laptop> vBefore RSID: <<2014-05-02T22:04Z Contestia @ 100+0721>>
[22:04] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,142,220356,140502,47.0671,0.2872,9926,9,-47,3.62,0*A18A
[22:04] <G4MYS-Andy> not over France dont think
[22:05] <nats_laptop> Reb-SM3ULC, there is a fog on that
[22:05] <nats_laptop> officially not allowed but even official institution launch aprs balloon
[22:05] <nats_laptop> as usual with HAM and scientific stuff
[22:06] <G4MYS-Andy> yes baut Hams not allowed /AM !
[22:06] <nats_laptop> signal coming strong again
[22:06] <malgar> I see that LeoBodnar is really cautelative about APRS but what about CAA permissions? It is crossing a lot of countries
[22:06] <nats_laptop> malgar, don't ask irritating questions :D
[22:06] <nats_laptop> officially this balloon can't croos the french border
[22:06] <nats_laptop> :p
[22:06] <nats_laptop> not without an autorisation
[22:06] <DL7AD> http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FM0XER-8&timerange=3600&tail=3600
[22:07] <DL7AD> have a look at the speed
[22:07] <nats_laptop> no paper no trip :p
[22:07] <DL7AD> this is called "autobahn" !!!
[22:07] <Reb-SM3ULC> DL7AD: http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/B-48#g/_speed
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwwS4YOTbbw - wow. Feel that bass.
[22:07] <nats_laptop> I think it's the same now
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> (F9R second test)
[22:08] <DL7AD> Reb-SM3ULC: thanks
[22:08] <DL7AD> awesome
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[22:08] <Reb-SM3ULC> DL7AD: maybe leos fastest?
[22:08] <DL7AD> Reb-SM3ULC: yes....
[22:08] <nats_laptop> Before RSID: <<2014-05-02T22:08Z Contestia @ 100+0726>>
[22:08] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,144,220759,140502,46.932,0.3027,9935,9,-47,3.59,0*9668
[22:09] <DL7AD> Reb-SM3ULC: definetly.... even my one hasnt been that fast. D-2 reached 180kph
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[22:12] <DL7AD> Reb-SM3ULC: the wind is the most fast exactly at that altitude http://puu.sh/8wDbl/99ab73533e.png
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[22:15] <nats_laptop> signal out
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[22:17] <Lunar_Lander> time for good night!
[22:18] <nats_laptop> nigte
[22:18] <nats_laptop> night
[22:18] <nats_laptop> I never needed to turn the antenna so quickly
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[22:19] <nats_laptop> problem in that area my antenna aim at an industrial complex with plenty of crappy 433MHz chinese product
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[22:24] <nats_laptop> hearing it on the radio but no decode
[22:24] <nats_laptop> time to give up :)
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[22:28] <nats_laptop> Before RSID: <<2014-05-02T22:28Z Contestia @ 100+1625>>
[22:28] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,154,222811,E40502,46.2532,0.
[22:28] <nats_laptop> got a partial
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[22:43] <nats_laptop> Before RSID: <<2014-05-02T22:28Z Contestia @ 100+1625>>
[22:43] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,154,222811,E40502,46.2532,0.FI08,156,223211,145.F+@@VQL_Q7QZ*
[22:43] <nats_laptop> Before RSID: <<2014-05-02T22:36Z Contestia @ 100+1545>>
[22:43] <nats_laptop> $$B-48,158,223614,14050264'.N819,0.4019,9950,11,-47,3.5W,<*C4BAI)#MBUE0'J
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[22:44] <Laurenceb_> holy shit
[22:44] <Laurenceb_> B-47 is back
[22:47] <nats_laptop> ?
[22:50] <nats_laptop> I can hear 48..
[22:51] <craag> B-47 back on APRS
[22:51] <craag> wow
[22:52] <craag> Heading straight at the igate too
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[22:54] <Laurenceb_> heh its daylight there
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[22:56] <craag> Yep looks like it's just woken up with the sunrise
[22:57] <craag> Temperature of -53 with the first packet
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[22:58] <nats_laptop> stop station now only QRM here
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[22:59] <nats_laptop> http://pastebin.com/8mPRaupY <= last partial
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[23:08] <Reb-SM3ULC> amazing, hope there are more packets in the pipe from b47
[23:09] <craag> Nothing for 25 minutes now - but we'll give it some time to warm up and get some charge in what remains of the battery
[23:09] <Upu> oh wow
[23:09] <Upu> B-47 reappeared
[23:09] <craag> yeah!
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[23:09] <craag> Still at 12km
[23:09] <craag> And heading straight for the igate :)
[23:10] <Upu> amazing
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[23:27] <fsphil> it's quite far north. it's going over some very uninhabited areas
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[23:33] <arko> holy cow!!
[23:33] <arko> i just saw B-47
[23:33] <arko> awesome!
[23:33] <arko> its coming for me :)
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[23:35] <fsphil> you're in alaska now? :)
[23:36] Action: arko books flights
[23:36] <fsphil> certainly be cooler
[23:36] <arko> haha
[23:36] <arko> i can get away from this so cal heat
[23:36] <arko> 33C earlier
[23:36] <arko> super dry
[23:36] <arko> static everywhere
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[23:40] <fsphil> sounds annoying
[23:44] <arko> very, you get sweaty just walking from your air conditioned office to the car
[23:45] <arko> i like the uk, it was just cold
[23:45] <arko> except day 1 that was like 30C where i sweated and couldnt sleep because AC doesn't exist there :)
[23:50] <nats`> time to sleep
[23:50] <nats`> maybe we should try to get some people to track B48
[23:50] <nats`> or it'll be lost for days
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