highaltitude.log.20140419

[00:05] <nats`> I fart in your general direction !
[00:15] <myself> (it's only a model.)
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[05:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> Morning All
[05:54] <Reb-SM3ULC> morrn!
[05:55] <Reb-SM3ULC> seems like noaa's preds for sp3 was pretty far off
[05:55] <Reb-SM3ULC> :/
[06:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> CUFS does it better
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[06:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> im streaming our local 70 cm repeater to the Internet. We will be using it today for launch communications
[06:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> mms://matrix.verox.pl:8085
[06:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> mostlu polish language ofcourse :-)
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[06:13] <x-f> good luck with the launch, Tom, break some records! :)
[06:14] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB-Tom: cool. launchtime?
[06:15] <sp2ipt> Reb-SM3ULC: 10 UTC
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[06:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> Reb-SM3ULC: 10:00 UTC
[06:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: thanks :-)
[06:39] <fsphil> B-46 is coming my way. it must be about to burst ;)
[06:41] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB-Tom: what fq? for the rtty, didn't see any info in mail
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[06:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> Reb-SM3ULC: it is dl-fldigi config. 437.600 for SEBA-8 and 437.650 for SR0FLY
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[07:12] <ibanezmatt13> morning
[07:12] <Upu> morning Matt
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[07:14] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB-Tom: oki, thanks
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[07:16] <ibanezmatt13> ping Upu pm :)
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[07:29] <ibanezmatt13> So I've made this python program which translates stuff into morse code sound for a person I know who was rear gunner in a Wellington bomber in ww2. I can use the Pi to toggle a buzzer for the beeps fine, but if I want to just generate beeps for x length on say a laptop, I'm a little stuck. Any ideas? Winsound was crap :P
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[07:30] <WB8ELK> Can someone approve a Flight Doc for a flight we are doing later today...my flight Doc number: 82eb90a687cd95c0239fddb0a0c7df1b
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[07:36] <IjonTichi> Hi
[07:36] <Upu> morning
[07:37] <IjonTichi> is the owner of SP3OSJ reading here? :)
[07:37] <Upu> Probably not
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[07:37] <Upu> we can probably answer a question if you have one
[07:37] <IjonTichi> mh, now as you say it, i think he has other things to do now ^^
[07:37] <SA6BSS> SP3OSJ is warming up, its at 144,698.5 @1100
[07:38] <Upu> if you want the frequency there it is :)
[07:38] <IjonTichi> i just liked to ask what the planed ascent rate and burst hight is ^^
[07:39] <Upu> deliberate floater
[07:39] <IjonTichi> im trying to fidle arround with the flight calculator
[07:39] <Upu> as is pretty much everything on the map today :)
[07:39] <Upu> using 36" foil balloons
[07:39] <IjonTichi> :)
[07:40] <IjonTichi> so it seems that i might have luck here in germany, based on some guessed numbers typed into the calculator ^^
[07:40] <IjonTichi> it seems to be pushed to the west
[07:40] <Upu> whats the balloon ?
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[07:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> IjonTichi: you should be able to receive SEBA-8, minimum planned altitude is 40 km
[07:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> IjonTichi: http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=86cfbbff351036801d4f8a41d8bd3a0c7d0f961f
[07:46] <IjonTichi> it doesnt seem to make any difference which ballon type i choose for the prediction, as my only concern was the main floating direction which is pointing roughly to hamburg with any different infos i tiypet in
[07:46] <IjonTichi> ah thanks for the link :)
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[07:53] <sp2ipt> SP9UOB-Tom: would be great place for landing - pretty close for people to pick it up :)
[07:56] <Reb-SM3ULC> ibanezmatt13: install unix-vw?
[07:56] <Reb-SM3ULC> ibanezmatt13: install unix-cw?
[07:56] <ibanezmatt13> Hmm, what's that?
[07:57] <craag> ibanezmatt13: I believe there is a linux program called 'beep'
[07:57] <IjonTichi> Im just making an RF coverage map for the predicted burst point ov SEBA-8
[07:57] <ibanezmatt13> I'll jhave a look craag, can't believe I'd have missed something so, obvious :)
[07:57] <IjonTichi> does someone know which power he is sending?
[07:57] <IjonTichi> i would guess something about 500mW
[07:58] <craag> ibanezmatt13: Ah, it uses the PC speaker - not something modern laptops have
[07:58] <ibanezmatt13> yeah craag, I tried beep on the Pi, just remembered, it made no sound
[07:58] <ibanezmatt13> winsound on the laptop was dire too
[07:59] <ibanezmatt13> there's gotta be something that you can use like a buzzer, to beep for x seconds without much delay between beep commands
[07:59] <IjonTichi> on thinkpads you could use ibm-acpi beeps ^^
[07:59] <IjonTichi> it has commands for long and short beep
[07:59] <ibanezmatt13> unfortunately, thinkpads are too good compared to our laptop :)
[08:00] <IjonTichi> ^^
[08:01] <ibanezmatt13> I'll keep looking around. Thanks for the info
[08:01] <sp2ipt> ibanezmatt13: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12354586/python-what-are-the-nearest-linux-and-osx-equivalents-of-winsound-beep
[08:02] <IjonTichi> im just guessing seba-8 with 100mW Tx power, might that be right?
[08:02] <ibanezmatt13> cheers sp2ipt
[08:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok, time to go to the launch site
[08:05] <craag> Break some records SP9UOB-Tom !
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[08:17] <f1ieh> hello
[08:18] <Reb-SM3ULC> ibanezmatt13: http://unixcw.sourceforge.net/
[08:18] <Reb-SM3ULC> ah, he left
[08:23] <f1ieh> hello, where can I find the B-46 beacon frequencie ?
[08:26] <malgar> how to understand what's the right coaxial cable for me? 50 or 75 ohm?
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[08:28] <craag> f1ieh: It'll be 434.500 for the Contestia Beacon
[08:28] <Reb-SM3ULC> malgar: receiver?
[08:29] <f1ieh> cragg, thank's !
[08:30] <mfa298> malgar: if it's for radio it's almost always 50R coax you want
[08:30] <craag> f1ieh: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ukhas/dBHiXzFRb8o/-jpXRLUrDQEJ
[08:30] <craag> More info ^^
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[08:41] <malgar> Reb-SM3ULC, mfa298: connect receiving antenna to sdr dongle
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[08:50] <mfa298> malgar: I'd probably go for 50R as it's the standard for most radio stuff although (assuming everything else is the same) there might not be a huge difference for recieving between 50R and 75R.
[08:52] <mfa298> assuming it's around a 10-20m length of cable you're looking for look at the loss figures for rg213 at 434MHz and get something with the same or lower loss /m (warning most charts give it per 100m or 100ft so make sure you're comparing the same thing)
[08:55] <mfa298> grrr, stupid windows updates. "Shack PC" had rebooted and was showing the linux login screen so I've not been uploading telem for a while.
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[08:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup mine did something smilar, DOngle stopped, rotator port disappeared, but tis all back now!
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[09:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh wow look mat the prediction this morning for B-46 ! http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub/arlTraj.swf?client=gme-noaa&channel=OAR.ARL.HQ.HYSPLIT&dir=/hypubout/HYSPLITtraj_163666&data=/hysplit_metadata&ext=html
[09:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> I wonder if its any better than last nights!!
[09:04] <craag> Geoff-G8DHE: Do you know the rough predicted path for B-44/B-45?
[09:04] <craag> ie. Were they predicted to come close to Dubai at all?
[09:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Try here http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-45_20140411/
[09:05] <craag> Cheers!
[09:06] <craag> Nope then :(
[09:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-45_20140411/index.php?ind=9 is the one just before it went down the Med, the others were for missing segments but the last JPG has a yellow track for prediction from Algeria
[09:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nothing more recent
[09:10] <craag> Yep I saw that - appears to be avoiding the UAE!
[09:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-46 right on my limits at the moment getting partial decodes
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[09:10] <malgar> lol B46 :P a bit confusing :P
[09:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Mond you we do have a Low sitting on top of us in the UK at the moment!
[09:12] <mfa298> B-46 seems to fade a bit for me, usuaully starting at the end of the first packet and getting stronger half way through the 2nd packet.
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[09:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes I noticed a lot of QSB last night about the duration of a record
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[09:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> Getting the RSID OK but not the telemetry
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[09:20] <malgar> I don't find any clear picture about how you connect the parachute to the cord. Do the cord go into the middle of the parachute?
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[09:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yea another decode
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[09:28] <mclane_> southampton websdr has been shut down?
[09:28] <craag> erm
[09:28] <craag> not afaik
[09:29] <craag> hmm interesting - looking into it mclane_
[09:29] <mclane_> http://websdr.suws.org.uk/ - not available when I try to connect
[09:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah predict looks better this morning even if it is a spiral! http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-46_20140418/index.php?ind=1
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[09:32] <Upu> yup not loading here either craag
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[09:34] <sm3ulc> url?
[09:35] <m3eav> i keep getting runtime error 403 connecting to habitat.habhub.org on dl-fldigi, any ideas?
[09:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Which version number is reported
[09:36] <m3eav> 3.21.50
[09:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> on the help
[09:36] <m3eav> only downloaded it other day
[09:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah ok that is the correct one
[09:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> you did run it with --hab mode
[09:36] <m3eav> yep
[09:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> can you give a screen shot ?
[09:36] <m3eav> hol d on
[09:36] <craag> Upu: Might be a power failure at the remote site.. :(
[09:37] <Upu> needs moar UPS
[09:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> on the dl Client config tag what URL for Habitat ?
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[09:38] <craag> Upu: Heh.. the amount of kit up there.. we'd need another shed just for the batteries ;)
[09:38] <m3eav> Geoff: http://i61.tinypic.com/f4phzl.png
[09:38] <m3eav> click it for bigger im age
[09:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thats the problem see here http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/index.php?ind=1
[09:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah don't get to worried by those responses HAbitat sometimes gets caught out by the number of responses I think, but check the URL from mine
[09:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> It was caught you notice
[09:40] <m3eav> ok i will keep trying, i seem to have same setup as image you have posted
[09:40] <m3eav> i can't see myself on map either, trie d everything
[09:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> Check the Location tab on the DL Client tab for correct parameters
[09:42] <m3eav> 50334500 lat/lon like this right?
[09:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/index.php?ind=2
[09:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> needs decimal points and -ve for West and South
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[09:43] <m3eav> ah ha, thanks again Geoff
[09:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> You may need to refresh SNUS for the new location when you restart as well
[09:44] <mfa298> you also need to set altitude (use 0 or similar if you don't know it)
[09:44] <m3eav> yep had done that bit, forgot about the decimal, have not used this for a bit and thought it was all one number format...oops
[09:45] <m3eav> sorted, on there now, albeit in the drink a bit:-)
[09:45] <m3eav> little fettling ...thanks Geoff
[09:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> nps
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[09:53] <lbm> First HAB reception, feels good.
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[09:56] <malgar> do I have to make an hole in the center of the parachute? how to do it safely?
[09:57] <craag> malgar: Does it not have strings attached?
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[10:05] <malgar> yes but if it will be put between the payload and the balloon where do the connecting cord pass?
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[10:05] <craag> Tie it along the connecting cord, so the parachute hangs down the side of the line between payload and balloon
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[10:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://spherachutes.com/items/spherachutes/18-in-spherachute-18sp-detail.htm
[10:08] <craag> When the balloon bursts, the remains should then swing down under the parachute (make it more than halfway up, so the balloon doesn't hit the payload)
[10:08] <craag> balloon - 1 third - parachute - 2 thirds - payload
[10:09] <malgar> ahh I miss that hook at the top! The one I want to order doesn't have it
[10:09] <craag> You don't need to have the hook at the top
[10:10] <craag> Correct me if I'm wrong - but I'd use a loop (like at the bottom of http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:knots ) in the cord between payload and balloon
[10:10] <craag> and tie the strings on the parachute to that
[10:11] <craag> So on the way up, the parachute hangs off the side of the cord
[10:11] <craag> On the way down, the parachute will be at the top, with both the balloon remains, and the payload supported below
[10:12] <craag> I'm sure there was a diagram on the wiki - but I can't find it :/
[10:12] <malgar> http://flockdraw.com/41dqlo :D if I attach it in this way it will be upside down during the ascent
[10:13] <craag> yep like that
[10:13] <craag> nothing wrong with it being upside-down during ascent
[10:15] <malgar> mmh
[10:15] <malgar> ok
[10:16] <malgar> but.. why is nothing wrong? anyway now I search for pictures showing it NOT upside down
[10:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveake/7571500116/in/set-72157630584759530
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[10:23] <LeoBodnar> book about the death of 45 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Balloon-Animals-Jonathan-Dunne/dp/1482674823/
[10:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[10:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> LeoBodnar, Have you seen this mornings prediction for B-46 ?
[10:24] <LeoBodnar> Yeah, wild!
[10:24] <LeoBodnar> perhaps in the middle of th elow
[10:25] <LeoBodnar> erm high
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[10:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> Looks like a Merry Go Round and gets flung off at some point!
[10:25] <LeoBodnar> haha
[10:25] <LeoBodnar> could be in any direction then
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[10:35] <malgar> craag: Geoff-G8DHE https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1285/4675557704_8b6f653db4.jpg
[10:36] <malgar> http://www.straybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/BALDI-4.jpg
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[10:41] <malgar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUm5X3Fq4Tw#t=162 stratodean
[10:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> Wont it be less effective if the balloon doesn't shred completly it will tend to pull the top of the parachute down ?
[10:44] <malgar> http://www.stratospera.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lancio-stratospera2.jpg
[10:46] <malgar> what's the website of ibanezmatt?
[10:46] <malgar> I would like to take a look at his configuration
[10:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.norb.co.uk/
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[10:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.norb.co.uk/data/uploads/G0029912.JPG
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[10:53] <malgar> Geoff-G8DHE: so it is not upside down
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[11:11] <malgar> sp9uob going up :)
[11:11] <chrisg7ogx> can someone give me a dial set freq for B46 please?
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[11:15] <G4AIU-Eugene> chrisg7ogx - 434.500.92 /FT-847
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[11:15] <chrisg7ogx> tks eugene
[11:16] <chrisg7ogx> is it the usual beeps every second then three before Txing?
[11:16] <G4AIU-Eugene> I have a slow drifter running thru the freq at the moment
[11:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> malgar, When its rising it so slow that the parachute wouldn't have much effect anyway! Maybe a paper clip to hold the top to the line which would spring off once the balloon line pulled it downwards ?
[11:17] <eroomde> sounds like a bob dylan song
[11:17] <eroomde> we have flown before parachutes 'hanging' from payloads
[11:18] <eroomde> so they're deployed and dragging on the way up
[11:18] <eroomde> there is not much point to it, unless there is a specific point to it, if that makes sense
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[11:18] <craag> I proposed just hanging it from a loop 2/3 of the way up the cord.
[11:19] <craag> I've seen it used like that before - and seems the simplest way of doing it.
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[11:20] <chrisg7ogx> Eugene is it using power saving mode of one second pips please?
[11:20] <craag> chrisg7ogx: every 3s iirc
[11:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its gone for me now
[11:21] <chrisg7ogx> Tks craag...too many pips of many varieties on that freq!
[11:22] <G4AIU-Eugene> chrisg7ogx - yes then one pip, two pips, three pips ann then Contestia 8/250
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[11:22] <chrisg7ogx> Eugene Tks
[11:24] <malgar> eroomde: what do you mean with "there is not much point to it"?
[11:27] <G4AIU-Eugene> chrisg70gx - are you able to copy?
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[11:30] <chrisg7ogx> eugene no still looking
[11:31] <G4AIU-Eugene> chris - I am centered on 1500Hz - signal has QSB with me plus my drifter - but keep trying!
[11:32] <IjonTichi> hi, is there any reason that SP9UOB is not showing up in the DL-fldigi?
[11:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its there
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[11:34] <IjonTichi> hm, maybe ill should try refreshing again
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[11:35] <IjonTichi> ans may someone please tell me the frequency for SR0FLY o.o'
[11:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its been a bit flacky since the GM API was changed, I believe someone is working on a new version slowly!
[11:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-46 / SEBA8 / SR0FLY
[11:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-46 434.500 Contestia 8/250
[11:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> SEBA8 437.600 Mhz SR0FLY 437.650 MHz
[11:36] <IjonTichi> ah i just overlooked that its seba8 in the list
[11:36] <IjonTichi> thank you :)
[11:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its on the Info panel!
[11:37] <craag> Geoff-G8DHE: He said in dlfldigi
[11:37] <PE2G> Any ideas about SP9UOB's expected burst alt?
[11:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah yes!
[11:37] <craag> PE2G: He's hoping 45km+ !
[11:37] <PE2G> That would be great!
[11:37] <craag> Chance of float...
[11:38] <PE2G> That's a chance of rx here
[11:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its there as SEBA-8 SP9UOB and its on SNUS
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[11:40] <PE2G> OK, tnx for the info, Geoff-G8DHE
[11:41] <PE2G> Currently tracking the Essen 12Z wx balloon
[11:42] <PE2G> http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FPE2G-11&timerange=10800&tail=10800
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[11:43] <ea5dom> GA all. Murcia WX sonde flying East here http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=10&call=a%2FEA5DOM-11&timerange=3600&tail=3600
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[11:45] <Ijon_Tichi> im sorry but i forgot to write down the frequency of SR0FLY before restarting my pc -.- could someone repaste it please?
[11:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its on the SNUS info panel!
[11:46] <Ijon_Tichi> oh ok
[11:46] <Ijon_Tichi> im just a bit confused because of being so exited ^^
[11:47] <chrisg7ogx> it's great to see so many trackers on the screen...Gotta get a abigger screen!
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[11:49] <Ijon_Tichi> chris just take a look in the garage if you find yourself a second monitor *g
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[11:54] <LeoBodnar> we need smaller icons :)
[11:56] <craag> 155 receivers on the map :)
[11:56] <chrisg7ogx> used to be able to "buy" second hand monitors at the dump!
[11:58] <chrisg7ogx> geoff g8dhe can you pass me a brg of B46 please ?
[11:58] <LeoBodnar> i can't see balloon behind the receivers if i zoom out lol
[11:59] <chrisg7ogx> last known brg..
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[12:10] <SpeedEvil> 'Data upload from tracking plane shows first stage landing in Atlantic was good! Flight computers continued transmitting for 8 seconds after reaching the water. Stopped when booster went horizontal. Several boats enroute through heavy seas...' - awesome!
[12:10] <SpeedEvil> - taking 8 seconds to go horizontal pretty much implies it 'landed' with near zero velocity.
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[12:11] <SpeedEvil> Would have been interesting to see the data to see if it could actually have landed if there was land there.
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[12:16] <PE2G> DJ3AK, how's SP9UOB's signal?
[12:23] <nats`> dumb question but on north side of my appartment there is a building, if I put a yahi or a moxon 45° from the ground to sky can I hope to have a better field of view ?
[12:24] <sp2ipt> nats`: yes
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[12:25] <sp2ipt> PE2G: here it's fading due to height ;)
[12:25] <sp2ipt> PE2G: and no elevation for vertical ant
[12:26] <PE2G> sp2ipt: Tnx for the info. Where are you?
[12:26] <nats`> cool sp2ipt I'll try it next time :)
[12:26] <sp2ipt> PE2G: jo94gi
[12:26] <PE2G> Ok
[12:26] <nats`> I could put the moxon on a camera stand :)
[12:28] <PE2G> sp2ipt: You're due east from me :) I'm in JO32HI
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[12:31] <sp2ipt> PE2G: yup :)
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[12:36] <eroomde> malgar: well it only reduces your ascent rate
[12:37] <eroomde> and doesn't really improve the performance of the system
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[12:44] <eroomde> 33/window 32
[12:45] <eroomde> pro irc usage
[12:45] <Laurenceb> sounds like my desktop
[12:45] <Laurenceb> 32 windows ?
[12:45] <eroomde> >50
[12:45] <Laurenceb> heh
[12:45] <eroomde> i seem to attract PMs
[12:45] <Laurenceb> i have stuff from 2010 still open
[12:46] <eroomde> answering someone's question is an invitation for them to pm your persoanlly for the rest of time, in irc-land
[12:46] <Laurenceb> some project i was working on and abandoned, i keep the terminal open
[12:46] <mfa298> can't you use esc <char> to get to those windows
[12:47] <eroomde> probably
[12:47] <mfa298> I've never had to use more than the top row of chars (qwert..), I tend to go through and apply /wc when the list gets too long
[12:47] <eroomde> i justkeep stuff open
[12:47] <eroomde> most of the people are interesting
[12:48] <eroomde> sometimes they're not and i /wc
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[12:49] <Herman-PB0AHX> on wat frequentie is sp9uob ??
[12:50] <qyon> 437.600
[12:50] <Herman-PB0AHX> qyon: mni tnx
[12:51] <eroomde> they don't charge by the byte anymore
[12:53] <Ijon_Tichi> hehe
[12:53] <Ijon_Tichi> for me they do :> 10 Gbyte choke from telekom LTE xD
[12:54] <eroomde> ouch
[12:54] <Ijon_Tichi> but 10GB should be enough for a century of irc usage ^^
[12:54] <eroomde> i got fibre about a month ago and it's made me use the internet in a differen way
[12:54] <Ijon_Tichi> i know, ive got 50mbit a few years ago
[12:55] <Herman-PB0AHX> sp9uob is autoconfigure in fldigi ??
[12:55] <Ijon_Tichi> but here on the village we have either ISDN or LTE via 800mHz
[12:55] <eroomde> so you can hit your monthly cap in about 30 minutes!
[12:56] <eroomde> ah
[12:56] <Ijon_Tichi> yep somethin like that
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[12:56] <LeoBodnar> that's 9 orders of magnitude out
[12:56] <Ijon_Tichi> but for this month the choke seems to be broken ^^
[12:57] <Ijon_Tichi> i actually used 20GB and they didnt thothle until now
[12:57] <Herman-PB0AHX> LeoBodnar: is send email to u u are rcvd ??
[12:57] <eroomde> leo wqnts you to use your shift key
[12:57] <eroomde> a millibit would be quite a thing though
[12:58] <eroomde> it's basically an instance with a certain outcome
[12:58] <LeoBodnar> heh
[12:58] <Ijon_Tichi> yep, I was meaning mega not milli ^^
[12:59] <DL7AD> B-46 has been picked up by new delhi!
[12:59] <Herman-PB0AHX> yessssssss my first green line ever from SP
[12:59] <mfa298> although in computing m vs M can be mebi vs mega (I think it's that way around) rather than milli
[13:00] <eroomde> DL7AD: do you mean B45?
[13:00] <eroomde> B46 could not have got to new delhi by now
[13:00] <Ijon_Tichi> i am getting some sort of aprs here on 437.638MHz what could that be? (I wasnt able to decode it right now)
[13:01] <eroomde> where is 'here'?
[13:01] <DL7AD> eroomde: yes B-45
[13:01] <Ijon_Tichi> central germany DM9MS
[13:01] <eroomde> someone confirm
[13:03] <Ijon_Tichi> yaaay I am seeing SP9UOB on my waterfall \o/
[13:04] <Herman-PB0AHX> i lost sp9uob now
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[13:05] <craag> Herman-PB0AHX: That range is impressive
[13:05] <craag> Must be a lift on to get that
[13:06] <Herman-PB0AHX> craag: maby a tunnel i dont know it is my first time i hrd a sp ballon
[13:07] <Laurenceb> wait wut
[13:07] <Laurenceb> B-45?!
[13:07] <qyon> Herman-PB0AHX: impressive!
[13:07] <DL7AD> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ZXcD534JGeNDhyVUlwNXl5RllJOFFVOEdxTFpZdk9aR0l3/edit?usp=sharing
[13:07] <DL7AD> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ZXcD534JGeSG9BbktSRnBfcHBWclBNOVN1aEViOGpGWDVV/edit?usp=sharing
[13:08] <DL7AD> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ZXcD534JGeZmZjQWZyeDRYcTdKa045a0gxWV9MbGZNeFFv/edit?usp=sharing
[13:08] <DL7AD> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ZXcD534JGeR25SOUZKMWpaeWJDWG5lSWpodXc1bDJZYXg0/edit?usp=sharing
[13:10] <LeoBodnar> yay B-45
[13:10] <DL7AD> :)
[13:10] <Laurenceb> i dont see it on findu
[13:11] <LeoBodnar> he did not igate it
[13:11] <eroomde> that would have moved fairly fast
[13:11] <LeoBodnar> latest prediction for B-45 ties up with it http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub/arlTraj.swf?client=gme-noaa&channel=OAR.ARL.HQ.HYSPLIT&dir=/hypubout/HYSPLITtraj_171794&data=/hysplit_metadata&ext=html
[13:12] <PE2G> Traces from SP9UOB on 437.600.7
[13:12] <Herman-PB0AHX> my last decode $$SP9UOB,3911,130408,50.23508,16.75836,37846,0,65,263,0,0,130,2db,5,SP*583C
[13:12] <eroomde> so it does
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[13:15] <Laurenceb> nice yeasu
[13:15] <Laurenceb> even has a balloon icon
[13:16] <Laurenceb> hmm
[13:16] <eroomde> those are nice yes
[13:16] <Laurenceb> new duration record from B-45?
[13:16] <eroomde> i got the yeasu vx7, also quite nice, but not as pretty as that, and missing the dedicated aprs features
[13:17] <Laurenceb> yeah new record
[13:17] Action: Darkside prefrs the kenwood
[13:17] <Laurenceb> 191 hours
[13:17] <Darkside> the TH-D72 isnt waterproof though
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[13:17] <Laurenceb> 4 hours longer than B-11
[13:18] <iain_g4sgx> impressive.
[13:18] <Laurenceb> wonder what the range is
[13:18] <eroomde> the kenwood has ssb iirc
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[13:18] <Laurenceb> its not going to have beaten CNSP
[13:18] <eroomde> no
[13:18] <Darkside> wasnt CNSP's a ZP though?
[13:18] <eroomde> delhi is less far than cali
[13:18] <eroomde> i think
[13:19] <Laurenceb> yeah
[13:19] <eroomde> Darkside: it was just a latex
[13:19] <Laurenceb> Darkside: latex
[13:19] <Laurenceb> yeah
[13:19] <Darkside> oh ok
[13:19] <Laurenceb> with H2, it seems to protect the latex
[13:19] <Laurenceb> flying with the jet stream :D
[13:20] <Laurenceb> 8750m altitude
[13:20] <Laurenceb> looks ok
[13:20] <Laurenceb> ill run hyplit
[13:20] <iain_g4sgx> Height wise would only just skim Everest I think
[13:21] <iain_g4sgx> Would be a surprise for the mounteneers! he he
[13:22] <mfa298> Laurenceb: is B-45 still being recieved? Data on snus looks dodgy (5 hours in the future)
[13:23] <mfa298> and it's in the same place as aprs.fi put M0XER-5 for 17/4 @20:58
[13:23] <eroomde> alsmost like delhi is gmt+5
[13:24] <x-f> doesn't look like SP9UOB is going to reach 45 km..
[13:24] <eroomde> it looks like it might go north of the worst of the himalayas
[13:24] <eroomde> but the updrafts from the mountains could certainly pop it
[13:25] <eroomde> tallest mountains around there are about 7km
[13:27] <qyon> burst sp9oub
[13:27] <qyon> uob*
[13:28] <Laurenceb> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/172726_trj001.gif
[13:28] <Laurenceb> rainstorm :-/
[13:28] <eroomde> so many listeners now
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[13:29] <Laurenceb> but not until south korea
[13:29] <Laurenceb> should pass some APRS unless it bursts in the Himalayas gravity waves
[13:29] <eroomde> it might get himalayed
[13:30] <eroomde> wonder if basecap has an igate
[13:30] <eroomde> that'd make a decent ukhas expedition
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[13:32] <Laurenceb> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/172752_trj001.gif
[13:32] <Laurenceb> 5km
[13:32] <iain_g4sgx> Anything special about the balloon? Normal foil?
[13:33] <Laurenceb> it survived 3km in georgia
[13:33] <eroomde> luck and a following wind, i guess
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[13:35] <Laurenceb> bbl
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[13:37] <SpeedEvil> Data upload from tracking plane shows first stage landing in Atlantic was good! Flight computers continued transmitting for 8 seconds after reaching the water. Stopped when booster went horizontal. Several boats enroute through heavy seas...'
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[13:38] <SpeedEvil> My initial back-of-the-envelope indicates that if you assume a 35m tall first stage landed on flat calm water, the horizontal velocity can't have been much more than 1m/s.
[13:38] <SpeedEvil> (so it falls horizontal in8s)
[13:38] <SpeedEvil> (no, I did not do the proper calculation)
[13:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-46 latest predict looks no better accuracy either! http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub/arlTraj.swf?client=gme-noaa&channel=OAR.ARL.HQ.HYSPLIT&dir=/hypubout/HYSPLITtraj_172825&data=/hysplit_metadata&ext=html
[13:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its at rightangles to where B-46 is flying ! http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-46_20140418/index.php?ind=2
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[13:43] <mfa298> would be nice if B-46 started heading east slighty I'm getting very close to the edge of the blue circle - although the signal looked reasonably strong on the waterfall just now when I looked
[13:43] <LeoBodnar> i have reassembled APRS telemetry into proper UKHAS packet and uploaded it on behalf of VU2MUE but APRS importer is screwed
[13:44] <LeoBodnar> NOAA hasn't been playing ball last few updates or maybe it is just the weather that is screwed, not prediction
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[13:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not sure the Jetstream is all over the place with two different streams opposing http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=jetstream;sess=
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[13:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> The NOAA seems to represent the situation above, but not sure that's what's actually happening!
[13:48] <iain_g4sgx> Leo: Im sure you've been missing my questions..! I see everyone runs the Si chips at a completely different clock frequency when using TXCO's. Doesn't that screw up all the config settings etc? What frequecy range will it operate ok in?
[13:50] <LeoBodnar> yes it does screw everything up and it is actually out of spec
[13:50] <LeoBodnar> the actual TX freqeuncy depends on internal PLL range and it is fixed
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[13:51] <LeoBodnar> so even though you can alter the steps between the TX frequencies you cannot alter total range
[13:51] <LeoBodnar> if this makes any sense
[13:52] <LeoBodnar> you can change steps from say 9Hz to 11Hz but you can TX outside 140MHz - 1GHz range
[13:52] <LeoBodnar> *but you can *not* TX outside 140MHz - 1GHz range
[13:52] <LeoBodnar> or whatever exact range it is
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[13:54] <LeoBodnar> TCXO wild goose chase is due to trying to shoehorn Si freqeuncy change steps into whole or half DominoEX steps
[13:56] <LeoBodnar> iain_g4sgx: sorry i have not seen you asking earlier
[13:57] <iain_g4sgx> Aha I see. tnx. I got my PIC board working fine but have reached my normal stalling point when it comes to the pcb. it bores me. Think I'll stick a tcxo in first.... No worries, I meant I've been offline for a while, work stuff.
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[13:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> LeoBodnar, plot of the last B-45 and prediction overlaid http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-45_20140411/index.php?ind=6
[14:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> the paths cross but at a an angle so not sure how accurate the predict is from the 17th
[14:00] <LeoBodnar> thanks Geoff, good work!
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[14:00] <LeoBodnar> looks like B-45 went through lost of *stans
[14:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> well a couple more fixes would be nice!
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[14:01] <DL7AD> Geoff-G8DHE: i already asked them
[14:02] <DL7AD> for more fixes
[14:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> Lets keep fingers crossed!
[14:02] <DL7AD> but the internet in new delhi is not stable there
[14:02] <DL7AD> thats the reason why it wasnt uploaded
[14:03] Nick change: danielsaul -> danielsaul_alt
[14:03] Nick change: danielsaul_alt -> danielsaul
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[14:06] <LeoBodnar> B-45 Great Circle Distance: 6702 km
[14:07] <LeoBodnar> Top 3 ARHAB longest distance flights were all made in December
[14:08] <LeoBodnar> i wonder if this is significant
[14:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> Prediction from last http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub/arlTraj.swf?client=gme-noaa&channel=OAR.ARL.HQ.HYSPLIT&dir=/hypubout/HYSPLITtraj_173374&data=/hysplit_metadata&ext=html
[14:10] <eroomde> jetsream is further south and at lower alt
[14:10] <eroomde> roughly
[14:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> actually they follow on quite nicely from the 17th as well
[14:10] <eroomde> usually shifts around may
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[14:12] <ea5dom> Congratulations Leo for the B-45 achievement ! and also the same to world global receiver coordinator Sven ! When do you plan to launch B-46 ??
[14:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://spacenear.us/tracker/?filter=B-46
[14:13] <SpeedEvil> It's not in the air?
[14:13] <mfa298> ea5dom: he already has launched B-46 it's currently flying around the UK
[14:13] <SpeedEvil> That was an attempt at a joke
[14:13] <SpeedEvil> :-)
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[14:13] <ea5dom> Ooops ! I can see it now thanks
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[14:16] <LeoBodnar> thanks ea5dom !
[14:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-45 prediction looks pretty settled for next coupl eof days http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-45_20140411/B-45%20predictions%20201404191400.jpg if it can get over the Himalayas
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[14:20] <delphinus> What frequency is B-46 on?
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[14:22] <LeoBodnar> B-45 Great Circle Distance between Azores and New Delhi positions: 9296 km
[14:22] <LeoBodnar> delphinus: 434.500 USB
[14:22] <delphinus> thanks
[14:24] <Upu_M0UPU> wth
[14:24] <Upu_M0UPU> genuine rx from B-45 ?
[14:24] <Upu_M0UPU> awesome
[14:25] <Upu_M0UPU> our new hero http://files.qrz.com/e/vu2mue/VU2MUE_for_QRZ_com.jpg
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[14:27] <LeoBodnar> i have restored UKHAS packet from APRS data Upu_M0UPU and uploaded it on his behalf
[14:27] <Upu_M0UPU> awesome
[14:28] <Upu_M0UPU> has he got a 70cm radio ?
[14:28] <LeoBodnar> all telemetry looks pukka
[14:28] <LeoBodnar> Sven is handling him lol
[14:28] <Upu_M0UPU> haha
[14:28] <Upu_M0UPU> well position looks around where it should be
[14:29] <Upu_M0UPU> I'll fix the database in a bit
[14:29] <LeoBodnar> DL7AD posted photos of the handheld with Rx data earlier
[14:30] <Upu_M0UPU> yup just scolled back
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[14:30] <Upu_M0UPU> wonderful
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[14:31] <Upu_M0UPU> I need to kill that APRS importer
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[14:35] <Upu_M0UPU> there you go Leo tidied up
[14:35] <LeoBodnar> ta!
[14:37] <LeoBodnar> y u no launch Upu_M0UPU ?
[14:37] <Upu_M0UPU> well funny the wife just came in with an old R7 payload
[14:37] <Upu_M0UPU> that was sat on the wardrobe top
[14:37] <Upu_M0UPU> "can I throw this away"
[14:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> This is the B-45 track with predcictions filling in missing sections http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-45_20140411/index.php?ind=6
[14:37] <Upu_M0UPU> "sure attached to a balloon"
[14:38] <LeoBodnar> tried the foil yet?
[14:38] <Upu_M0UPU> foil ?
[14:39] <Reb-SM3ULC> LeoBodnar: congrats on the packet from india
[14:39] <LeoBodnar> this balloon film
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[14:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-45 14,463Km to date http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-45_20140411/index.php?ind=2
[14:40] <Upu_M0UPU> no
[14:41] <Upu_M0UPU> just powered this tracker on
[14:41] <Upu_M0UPU> see what call sign it has
[14:43] <DL7AD> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ObdwqohRnk
[14:46] <Upu_M0UPU> ah sod it I'll go launch
[14:46] <craag> That's the spirit :)
[14:46] <LeoBodnar> that's the spirit!
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[14:49] <mfa298> damn I'll have to get a second radio setup if Upu's flying as well.
[14:50] <Upu_M0UPU> meh 27g
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[14:53] <eroomde> sending it up with a packed lucnh and wellingtons?
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[14:54] <Reb-SM3ULC> Geoff-G8DHE: cool pics of b45!
[14:56] <LeoBodnar> Bublebees are also flying against all the odds
[14:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ha just noticed the Green prediction line is nearly connecting back to B-45 flight over the Azores!
[14:56] <LeoBodnar> *Bumble rather
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[14:59] <mattbrejza> connected a board the wrong way round to a battery
[14:59] <mattbrejza> only the reg has died
[14:59] <mattbrejza> i call that a success
[15:00] <mattbrejza> also teaches me for using yellow and blue wire instead of red/black
[15:00] <LeoBodnar> political influence?
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[15:02] <LeoBodnar> older cerdip PICs were known to heat up to 100C+ when wired in reverse and still work afterwards
[15:02] <mattbrejza> im not sure a micro, radio and presure sensor would have all survived 3V the wrong way across them
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[15:05] <Student> Hi could someone help me with the following problem : my one wire protocol is missing the first write bit after the presence pulls
[15:05] <Student> also every delay i do after i check the bus for the presence pulls gets before it on my scope
[15:06] <LeoBodnar> maybe the reg crowbarred the PSU?
[15:06] <LeoBodnar> and saved the rest of the party?
[15:07] <SA6BSS> B45 uppdated :) !!
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[15:08] <mattbrejza> thats probably what happened, stuff was warm and a bit smelly
[15:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ther's a PAVA on the map!
[15:09] <mattbrejza> farnell -> regs -> buy 1 -> here wednesday
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[15:20] <Upu_M0PU> its up
[15:20] <Upu_M0PU> so heavy I put a parachute on it :)
[15:21] <LeoBodnar> lol
[15:21] <Upu_M0PU> 35g
[15:21] <Upu_M0PU> so predicting burst
[15:21] <LeoBodnar> somebody should fly a gum bear on a pico
[15:21] <Upu_M0PU> well going up
[15:22] <Upu_M0PU> heading home
[15:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> What freq ?
[15:22] <LeoBodnar> heh
[15:22] <Upu_M0PU> oh yeah
[15:22] <Upu_M0PU> lol
[15:22] <Upu_M0PU> 434.542
[15:22] <Upu_M0PU> afk driving
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[15:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> If you get a flight doc authorised I'll have the aerials track it as well ;-)
[15:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> Student, It might help if you said what prcessor/language/chip your trying to use, there isn't anything wrong with the 1-wire protocol itself ;-)
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[15:27] <Student> Pic18f4520 : c18 , ds18b20
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[15:33] <kpiman> getting runtime error: Couldn't resolve host name
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[15:34] <Upu_M0UPU> drifty
[15:35] <kpiman> Fixed error
[15:35] <Upu_M0UPU> unsurprisingly strong singal
[15:35] <kpiman> very
[15:35] <Upu_M0UPU> :)
[15:35] <Upu_M0UPU> I predict a burst around 4.8km its too heavy
[15:37] <LeoBodnar> fsphil challenge!
[15:37] <Upu_M0UPU> 434.545
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[15:39] <LeoBodnar> or Lancater bomber?
[15:39] <LeoBodnar> Lancaster
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[15:45] <Upu_M0UPU> heh well ascent rate is too high
[15:48] <mattbrejza> any more rubbish around thte house you want to dispose of by ballooining it into the next county?
[15:51] <Upu_M0UPU> was just joking with the wife about that
[15:51] <Upu_M0UPU> when I throw out the rubbish I do it with style
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[15:53] <Upu_M0UPU> actually kpiman this is the same tracker than you recovered
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[15:56] <Upu_M0UPU> float ?
[15:57] <LeoBodnar> oh?!
[15:57] Nick change: BitEvil -> SpeedEvil
[15:57] <Upu_M0UPU> nah its going up again
[15:57] <Upu_M0UPU> look at alt graph though
[15:58] <LeoBodnar> took a rest
[15:59] <LeoBodnar> 3.4m/s
[15:59] <LeoBodnar> this is like the early days!
[15:59] <Upu_M0UPU> this is the early days its been sat there for over a year collecting dust :)
[16:00] <Upu_M0UPU> until you turned up this was the lightest payload in the world
[16:00] <LeoBodnar> XD
[16:00] <Upu_M0UPU> it felt so heavy I put a 6" rocketry parachute on it
[16:01] <LeoBodnar> haha
[16:01] <LeoBodnar> it's been a good year
[16:01] <Upu_M0UPU> indeed
[16:01] <mattbrejza> http://imgur.com/LA5w28A ? :P (if you ignore the case)
[16:01] <Upu_M0UPU> I have a small one behind me but tis missing panels
[16:01] <Upu_M0UPU> oh well yeah
[16:01] <Upu_M0UPU> ignoring that
[16:01] <Upu_M0UPU> 2nd smallest I was just making a point :)
[16:02] <mattbrejza> was that the last before doing the radio yourself?
[16:02] <Upu_M0UPU> yeah its got an RFM22B on it
[16:03] <Upu_M0UPU> but it could be lighter I made a small box out of that blue insulation
[16:03] <Upu_M0UPU> and its glued in with hot glue
[16:03] <Upu_M0UPU> board and battery only weigh 20g or so
[16:03] <Upu_M0UPU> programming header in there
[16:03] <Upu_M0UPU> all adds up
[16:04] <Upu_M0UPU> oh also didn't have any kapton tape so its stuck with bright pink heavy gaffer
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[16:04] <LeoBodnar> NASA say it's go
[16:05] <Upu_M0UPU> collaborators ?
[16:05] <Upu_M0UPU> ping mikestir
[16:05] <malgar> any news from SP9UOB?
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[16:14] <G0WXI> what freq is Pava on please?
[16:16] <eroomde> 434.542
[16:16] <G0WXI> I am trying to remote log in to my RX, but can't see the calendar entry, thanks
[16:16] <Upu_M0UPU> well
[16:16] <G0WXI> thanks
[16:16] <Upu_M0UPU> thats because I only decided to launch it about 50 mins ago
[16:16] <G0WXI> thanks
[16:17] <Upu_M0UPU> current 434.546
[16:17] <Upu_M0UPU> given the ascent rate and payload weight its very likely to burst soon
[16:18] Nick change: danielsaul -> danielsaul_alt
[16:18] Nick change: danielsaul_alt -> danielsaul
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[16:18] <Upu_M0UPU> could do with getting mikestir listening
[16:18] <eroomde> a bit like silicon valley valuations then
[16:18] <Upu_M0UPU> well
[16:19] <Upu_M0UPU> I'm being realistic
[16:19] <Upu_M0UPU> super trendy app worth more than 20 mars rovers - no
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[16:23] <kpiman> Upu: If it goes like last time it will need the chute
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[16:26] <LeoBodnar> Bad influence! [17:16] <Upu_M0UPU> thats because I only decided to launch it about 50 mins ago
[16:26] <Reb-SM3ULC> mm, aprs doesn't seems to be abig thing in india :/
[16:28] <mikestir> Upu_M0UPU: you got a pico up?
[16:28] <fsphil> Upu_M0UPU: LeoBodnar: thanks guys :)
[16:30] <craag> fsphil: You getting PAVA over there?
[16:30] <fsphil> just got home ant tuned
[16:30] <fsphil> and*
[16:30] <fsphil> got it weakly on the waterfall
[16:30] <craag> :)
[16:31] <craag> You're right on the blue line
[16:32] <LeoBodnar> c'mon PAVA make us proud
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[16:35] <fsphil> Upu_M0UPU could win the fsphil challange
[16:35] <fsphil> getting partials
[16:35] <fsphil> bonus points if it lands nearby
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[16:36] <fsphil> so close, one char out
[16:36] <craag> burst
[16:37] <fsphil> ack
[16:37] <fsphil> that explains the wobbly
[16:37] <mikestir> going in the sea
[16:37] <craag> hmm maybe not
[16:38] <craag> tis descending fast
[16:38] <fsphil> must have been a proper burst rather than a leak
[16:38] <fsphil> I've lost it
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[16:38] <LeoBodnar> valve blowout perhaps
[16:39] <craag> Aiming for Lancaster city
[16:39] <LeoBodnar> Lancaster bomber
[16:40] <craag> East of the M6 now..
[16:41] <fsphil> B-46 looks like it's going to do its best to avoid me
[16:41] <mikestir> might land on the m6
[16:43] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[16:44] <craag> Evening Lunar_Lander
[16:44] <Lunar_Lander> how is everyone?
[16:44] <mikestir> lost it
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[16:45] <mikestir> house is in the way in that direction
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[16:45] <fsphil> bbl
[16:45] <craag> Looks like Rob got the last packet
[16:46] <craag> Will be down about now
[16:48] <gonzo_p> anyone chasing PAVA?
[16:49] <Upu_M0UPU> nah
[16:49] <Upu_M0UPU> thought that was floating
[16:49] <LeoBodnar> it was swift
[16:50] <Upu_M0UPU> it did have a parachute on it
[16:50] <Upu_M0UPU> so thats pretty odd
[16:50] <Upu_M0UPU> would have expected way slower than that
[16:50] <Upu_M0UPU> anyway
[16:50] <Upu_M0UPU> never mind
[16:50] <Upu_M0UPU> afk cooking
[16:50] <LeoBodnar> chicken tonight?
[16:50] <Upu_M0UPU> jerk sauce
[16:51] <LeoBodnar> I am not sure whether to get Indian or Chinese for tonight
[16:51] <mikestir> indian here
[17:01] <g0pai_ian> Indian or Chinese leo, are you hoping for a Chinese reception report for B-45?
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[17:08] <nats`> LeoBodnar it's already night there
[17:08] <nats`> in china it's 1 a.m
[17:08] <eroomde> yeah today sort of dissappeared
[17:08] <eroomde> i had lunch, got lost in a textbook, then it was 5pm
[17:09] <eroomde> suddenly the sun is disappearing
[17:09] <craag> WebSDR back online after loss of power at the remote site.
[17:11] <mfa298> and already a few users :)
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[17:27] <DL7AD> B-45 reached china
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[17:29] <nats`> oO
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[17:38] <SpeedEvil> Woo!
[17:39] <Laurenceb> i only see it in india
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[17:49] <Lunar_Lander> awesome!
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[17:52] <G4AIU-Eugene> B-46 elevation from my QTH is now 0.9
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[18:28] <la3eq> GE all
[18:28] <la3eq> $$SX3OSJ,2892,18S809,56>9<990l7.4503x,6227<V8w4n23,1.27,0/41,7+8EqC>xvg6~2I
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[18:34] <la3eq> RSP3OSJ,2902,183343,56.95486,7.44971,6188,-13,9,874.79,1.25,0.42,3*C888
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[18:36] <la3eq> $$SP3OSJ,2906,183546,56.95665,7.44938,6204,-14,8,874.99,1.25,0.39,3*C35D good decode this time
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[18:37] <DL7AD> *thumbs up* la3eq
[18:38] <sp2ipt> la3eq: great, get ready for sr0fly in some time (hopefully ;))
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[18:51] <Reb-SM3ULC> any preds for sp3?
[18:53] <oh3uw> Look at B-45, Great flight!
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[18:56] <la3eq> $$SP3OSJ,2942,185511,56.97066,7.43473,6121,-16,7,876.93,1.24,0.36,3*E9DB
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[18:57] <la3eq> I an getting green decodes, but they are not showing up on the map???
[18:57] <sp2ipt> la3eq: did you enter your location and height in dl-fldigi?
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[18:58] <la3eq> yes
[18:58] <SA6BSS> la3eq: http://ukhas.org.uk/_media/guides:location2.jpeg
[18:58] <sp2ipt> la3eq: http://habitat.habhub.org/stats/ shows some frames from you
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[19:03] <Willdude123> mikestir pin
[19:03] <Willdude123> *ping
[19:03] <Willdude123> I decided to abandon the PCB as it seems a bit of a silly idea in hindsight
[19:05] <Lunar_Lander> Willdude123, what was the intended function of the PCB?
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[19:17] <jiffe98> anyone have any experience with the u-blox lea-5s ?
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[19:19] <jiffe98> fairly cheap and looks to work up to 50km
[19:21] <craag> jiffe98: They're quite old tech and look power hungry
[19:21] <craag> No reason why they wouldn't work - but the ublox max-7 is what most people use now.
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[19:23] <Laurenceb> ive flow ublox5
[19:23] <Laurenceb> worked very nicely
[19:23] <Lunar_Lander> wb craag
[19:24] <craag> Lunar_Lander: moar ram :D
[19:25] <eroomde> jiffe98: they work well
[19:25] <eroomde> + what craag said
[19:26] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[19:26] <Upu_M0UPU> 5s will work fine I use one for my ntp rig
[19:26] <Upu_M0UPU> large and use lots of power (relative) but work
[19:26] Nick change: Upu_M0UPU -> Upu
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[19:26] <SP9UOB-Tom> evening all
[19:26] <Upu> hey Tom
[19:26] <craag> Evening SP9UOB-Tom
[19:26] <Upu> recovered ?
[19:26] <craag> Good try today!
[19:27] <Upu> indeed :)
[19:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> no, hams from OK going tommorow for rescue mission
[19:27] <Upu> GBC altitude attempt ?
[19:27] <Upu> GSBC even
[19:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: off the competition, they require onboard camera and photo every 3000m
[19:28] <Upu> oh
[19:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> it was very windy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhhYrvpCsd0&feature=youtu.be
[19:28] <Upu> yep
[19:28] <Upu> lol I feel your pain
[19:28] <Upu> good running
[19:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> LOL
[19:28] <Upu> well that must be a fairly good stab at the altitude
[19:29] <Upu> unless the Mexicans put 50km in
[19:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> ;-)
[19:29] <Upu> Let them try... :)
[19:29] <eroomde> nice launch though SP9UOB-Tom
[19:29] <eroomde> v elegant
[19:29] <Laurenceb> they will probably claim to have beaten JAXA soon
[19:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> with decent hebtax envelope should be archievable
[19:30] <Upu> well we worked out where they were getting the altitude from
[19:30] <Upu> and presented it to them
[19:30] <Upu> and have had no response since
[19:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> *heptax
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[19:30] <craag> Upu: Oh? was it a pressure sensor?
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[19:31] <Upu> they were using a APM2.6 which defaults to pressure for altitude even if a GPS is present
[19:31] <craag> heh
[19:31] <Upu> we spoke to the dev of Ardupilot and he describe the altitude model as poor above 2km
[19:31] <Upu> the more powerful pixhawk is accurate via barometric to 11km
[19:31] <craag> not exactly what it's designed for...
[19:31] <Upu> but they weren't using it
[19:31] <Upu> no
[19:32] <Upu> basically the Mexicans argument was "we had 11 satellites"
[19:32] <Upu> which is great apart from their altitude wasn't derived from them
[19:32] <SP9UOB-Tom> more photos here: https://www.facebook.com/events/685651844832879/
[19:32] <Upu> anyway they've gone silent on us
[19:32] <Upu> and you may note removed from ARHAB
[19:32] <Upu> nice T-Shirt Tom :))
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[19:33] <Upu> "if you find me my name is Thomas"
[19:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: my model (in fact NASA) is also ok: http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/40389abaa95682e970b2fc71ccb0fee5#g/altitude,pressure_altitude
[19:33] <Upu> yep but up to 8km
[19:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: thank You. If You wisk i can make one for You :-)
[19:33] <Upu> heh
[19:34] <SP9UOB-Tom> *wish, sorry mess on my desk
[19:34] <Upu> so much on the map I'm struggling to work out whats going on atm
[19:35] <Upu> craag how much kit do you have on the websdr ?
[19:35] <LeoBodnar> if(locale == Mexico) define long int Altitide;
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[19:36] <Upu> altitude = altitude * FIDDLEFACTOR
[19:36] <SP9UOB-Tom> LeoBodnar: and Altitude*=1.92
[19:36] <Upu> I was going to roll with 1.8
[19:36] <SP9UOB-Tom> UPU :-)
[19:36] <Upu> but 1.92 is good
[19:36] <LeoBodnar> They have actually reached 112km but the Altitide was only 16 bit
[19:37] <craag> Upu: The websdr is a very small part of the kit up there. There's a 70cm repeater (as you can see on the websdr), and a full remote SSB/DATV station operated by Noel G8GTZ.
[19:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> Leo: haha !
[19:37] <Upu> lol
[19:37] <Upu> ah ok
[19:37] <Upu> need a big UPS and a generator ? :)
[19:38] <craag> Well we haven't had power issues more than twice a year or so before, so not really needed.
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[19:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> Argh! first moskito bite this year.
[19:39] <Upu> fair enough
[19:39] <Upu> you know one day I'll pluck up the stupidity to install java so I can actually see what its liek
[19:39] <LeoBodnar> how does it taste?
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[19:40] <craag> Upu: We are looking at moving the websdr kit to a seperate shed/enclosure though, to reduce noise, so may look at some UPS functionality then.
[19:40] <Laurenceb> you have to buy you know who a new yacht
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[19:41] <craag> Upu: Hopefully we'll have the HTML5 version of the software before you get bored enough to get round to that!
[19:41] <Upu> ok cool I may have some old UPS's we ca fit up with new batteries so let me know how much power it all takes
[19:41] <Upu> I have a 2.2kw one at home
[19:41] <Upu> runs up from the garage into my office
[19:41] <SP9UOB-Tom> LeoBodnar: haha, that (dead now) moskito bitten me ;-)
[19:41] <Upu> cost £110 to fill it with new batteries :)
[19:42] <craag> I think about 75W for the PC with the websdr running - and then about 3W extra for preamps :)
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[19:42] <craag> Maybe 10W more if we put the Wifi Link on it too.
[19:42] <craag> So really not much!
[19:42] <LeoBodnar> watch out for neighbours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3dB1P3AZRU
[19:45] <sp2ipt> SP9UOB-Tom: hi, where did it land?
[19:45] <jiffe98> craag: where do you get your max-7's from?
[19:45] <LeoBodnar> there's only one place to get your MAX-7s from
[19:45] <craag> jiffe98: http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=59_60
[19:45] <eroomde> how you comin on with that radio you've been working on, huh?
[19:46] <eroomde> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTSGp4UdEvQ
[19:46] <craag> jiffe98: What country are you in?
[19:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp2ipt: In Czech Republic
[19:47] <jiffe98> craag I'm in the US
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[19:47] <Upu> hey jiffe98 I run that shop
[19:48] <Upu> if you use coupon code UKHAS at the check out you get 10% off the price
[19:48] <sp2ipt> SP9UOB-Tom: that I can see myself :) there are some woods there so I was wondering if it can be easily rescued
[19:48] <Upu> and yes I ship to the States
[19:48] <Upu> daily..
[19:50] <sp2ipt> SP9UOB-Tom: Orlicke hory aren't very high but it can be tricky :)
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[19:51] <jiffe98> Upu: sweet I'm liking the site
[19:52] <jiffe98> those chip antennas any good?
[19:52] <Upu> yup
[19:52] <Upu> well
[19:52] <Upu> they work fine on hab payloads
[19:52] <Upu> wouldn't use them inside a house
[19:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp2ipt: no info yet, weather breakdown. OK hams are going tommorow
[19:54] <sp2ipt> SP9UOB-Tom: ok, tnx
[19:54] <jiffe98> gotcha, that makes sense
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[19:59] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB-Tom: impressive flight today. that was high up.. :)
[19:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> Reb-SM3ULC: thanks :-)
[20:00] <Upu> I hope that wins you the GSBC SP9UOB-Tom
[20:00] <Upu> see what Steve's going to come up with
[20:01] <Upu> between you me and the rest of the channel I have a sneaky suspicion he may have some of the 43km 1600g's left
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[20:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: well :-)
[20:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: rubbers are tinner and tinner every year ;-)
[20:02] <Upu> indeed
[20:02] <Upu> like Cadbury's Creme Eggs
[20:03] <sp2ipt> ROTFL
[20:05] <gonzo_nb> really not sure I joined the cha at the right time!!
[20:05] <gonzo_nb> t
[20:07] <Upu> hah
[20:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: LOL
[20:08] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[20:09] <Lunar_Lander> by the time the first Hwoyee balloons were used and the first jokes about Chinese Rubber came up, I recall that South Africa banned chinese made condoms due to QC issues
[20:09] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[20:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> Lunar_Lander: :-)
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[20:11] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> He he the B-46 Merry Go Round continues ... http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub/arlTraj.swf?client=gme-noaa&channel=OAR.ARL.HQ.HYSPLIT&dir=/hypubout/HYSPLITtraj_185319&data=/hysplit_metadata&ext=html
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
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[20:12] <Reb-SM3ULC> Geoff-G8DHE-M: nice balloon-dance.. :)
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[20:14] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> Its scheduled to go round in circles for the next 7 days rather than head to the Far East!
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[20:18] <Reb-SM3ULC> Geoff-G8DHE-M: done one for sp3 too?
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[20:22] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> Can do i moment
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[20:24] <Reb-SM3ULC> Geoff-G8DHE-M: a xml-api would have been a nice way to generate preds, with some limits for abuse..
[20:24] Action: mfa298 wonders whether to leave the radio on overnight to see if B-46 actually follows that prediction.
[20:24] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub/arlTraj.swf?client=gme-noaa&channel=OAR.ARL.HQ.HYSPLIT&dir=/hypubout/HYSPLITtraj_185781&data=/hysplit_metadata&ext=html
[20:25] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> I'm leaving mine tracking along with the aerial but note the speed it takes a further 19 hours to get back over Sussex!
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[20:25] <m1dlg> /msg NickServ identify groover
[20:25] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> I suspect it will have changed again by tomorrow morning! A few more rotations ....?
[20:26] <Reb-SM3ULC> veeeery slow weather
[20:27] <craag> ls
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[20:27] <m1dlg> I went to bed last night leaving my radio on and still tracking the B-46 balloon. I can see it is still over the celtic sea. Is it really still airborne?
[20:28] <craag> m1dlg: Yep :)
[20:28] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> It is indeed!
[20:28] <m1dlg> do they often stay airborne this long?
[20:28] <craag> Going to loop back over Normandy and up north over the UK again it looks like!
[20:28] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> look at B-45 coming up on 7-8 days now
[20:28] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> Over India
[20:28] <Reb-SM3ULC> m1dlg: B-45 is still running.. :)
[20:29] <m1dlg> wow
[20:29] <mfa298> m1dlg: the B- series generally last a long time most go out of range before they come down
[20:30] <m1dlg> I occassionally hear the odd pip under the QRM and wonder if this is the transmitter
[20:33] <mfa298> probably unlikely if your antenna on the map is correct (although some ducting to get it over the horizon is possible)
[20:33] <Upu> I've seen ducting before
[20:35] <gonzo_nb> it can be quite suprising, S9 sigs just appear
[20:35] <mfa298> looks like g3vpf either has a good location or is getting is slightly over the horizon
[20:36] <mfa298> although a good bit of seawater to help with that
[20:38] <m1dlg> I wonder who is pipping on frequency though. I did get a good few hits while it was over the english channel
[20:38] <Reb-SM3ULC> sp3 has almost stopped.. 1.7 m/s...
[20:51] <Andy-G4MYS> G3VPF hasa good location
[20:53] <mfa298> m1dlg: the predictions have it coming back around so with any luck we'll all get another chance for some decodes.
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[20:54] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> Yup its just done anothe rightangle in the sky now heading a little East of South!
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[20:55] <Reb-SM3ULC> darn, b-46 falling
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[20:57] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> Oh yes ....
[20:57] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> might just be rain
[20:58] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> But no rain shown out ther on the radar :-(
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[20:58] <mfa298> lower than last nights float as well :(
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[20:59] <mfa298> but then B-45 dipped by a couple of km as well so we might be ok
[21:00] <Reb-SM3ULC> yeah
[21:01] <Upu> rain at that altitude ?
[21:02] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> Rain/icing/condensation
[21:02] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> its done it before, normally a bit steeper
[21:02] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> on previous flights
[21:05] <amell> damn, I see B-45 reappeared :)
[21:06] <m1dlg> I'm definatly getting pips from the balloon now
[21:06] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> It might be flattening out ?? http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-46_20140418/B-46_201404192104.jpg
[21:07] <amell> m1dlg: where are you?
[21:07] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> It will be on the Night cycle telematery every 4 minutes
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[21:08] <amell> Im astounded that B-45 made new delhi - a new leobodnar record?
[21:09] <m1dlg> Newbury, I'm using a Vertical dipole
[21:09] <amell> the mountains of nepal may pose a problem.
[21:09] <m1dlg> Am I tracking something else? Am I confused? Nepal?
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[21:09] <m1dlg> B-46
[21:09] <m1dlg> ?
[21:09] <amell> I think youre talking about B-46
[21:10] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> Its in the ISM band so there are LOTS of noises
[21:10] <amell> Im marvelling at B-45
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[21:10] <amell> What is aprs callsign for 45 and 46?
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[21:10] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> M0xer-4 and 5
[21:11] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> No not for 46 I guess that will be -6
[21:11] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> but it might not yet be over the geo-fence for it
[21:12] <amell> a single aprs call from B-45 in india? Id have expected more than one&
[21:12] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> It backed up with photos of the handheld, PARS isn't that common in India
[21:12] <mfa298> looks like there's been a couple of APRS updates from B-46
[21:13] <LeoBodnar> encoded telemetry was spot on so it can't be a fake
[21:13] <amell> leobodnar: indeed. Surprise only one contact though.
[21:14] <LeoBodnar> they don't even have standrad frequency in India
[21:14] <amell> did you plan for this eventuality? :)
[21:14] <mfa298> amell: I think it was uploaded via a photograph rather than a direct upload to the aprs online stuff
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[21:14] <LeoBodnar> "That's a good question... we are mostly via mobile phone and internet computers :-) but I think we should use 144.390 for that. Actually in India there aren't many users on APRS. So we tested on random frequencies in the ham band on non - interference basis."
[21:15] <LeoBodnar> From the guy who received it
[21:15] <amell> he contacted you - thats awesome.
[21:15] <LeoBodnar> Sven DL7AD_ found him
[21:15] <LeoBodnar> http://files.qrz.com/e/vu2mue/VU2MUE_for_QRZ_com.jpg
[21:15] <amell> any idea how far away his station is
[21:16] <LeoBodnar> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0ZXcD534JGeNDhyVUlwNXl5RllJOFFVOEdxTFpZdk9aR0l3/edit?pli=1
[21:16] <LeoBodnar> ~100km
[21:16] <amell> lol. nice bike
[21:16] <mfa298> that looks like it could be a good hab tracking setup :)
[21:17] <amell> yes, chase-bike
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[21:17] <daveake> New SNUS icon needed :)
[21:17] <LeoBodnar> he still shows on APRS map http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FVU2YEP&timerange=3600&tail=3600
[21:17] <amell> i dont quite understand how he heard B-45 - was he actively looking for it?
[21:17] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> Sven DL7AD chases people to listen!
[21:17] <LeoBodnar> I think MUE was his old callsign
[21:19] <amell> but how did you know to chase people in india - prediction? expecting it to fly over delhi?
[21:19] <LeoBodnar> Prediction was spot on to within 1 hour and 50km
[21:19] <amell> excellent
[21:20] <[1]Geoff-G8DHE> Yes the predictions show it flying that route see http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-45_20140411/index.php?ind=11
[21:20] <SP9UOB-Tom> SEBA8 fill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m02ntlNxegg
[21:21] <DL7AD_> MUE and YEP are different persons ;)
[21:21] Nick change: DL7AD_ -> DL7AD
[21:22] <DL7AD> VU2YEP replied my mail and told me VU2MUE has the equipment to receive it
[21:23] <DL7AD> i did not understand exactly why it did not upload to the APRS-IS
[21:23] <amell> maybe he was out on his chase-bike
[21:23] <LeoBodnar> From mobile?
[21:23] <DL7AD> but all in all he could read the position on his handheld
[21:23] <amell> internet in India is all 3G dongles mostly.
[21:24] <DL7AD> LeoBodnar: mobile? no from his amateur radio handheld
[21:24] <amell> When i get hackers at work from india - they are always on dongles.
[21:25] <amell> any thoughts on when B-45 might connect to APRS next?
[21:25] <Reb-SM3ULC> DL7AD: great work!
[21:25] <mfa298> if he was decoding using the built in tnc on the radio that probably isn't internet connected.
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[21:26] <amell> looking for a predict of B-45 path in the next T days.
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[21:26] <LeoBodnar> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub/arlTraj.swf?client=gme-noaa&channel=OAR.ARL.HQ.HYSPLIT&dir=/hypubout/HYSPLITtraj_182837&data=/hysplit_metadata&ext=html
[21:27] <amell> not a good path. mountains in the way. Maybe hear from it again in china/South Korea if it makes it that far.
[21:28] <DL7AD> mfa298: thats the most reasonable explanation for this
[21:28] <malgar> SP9UOB balloon has been recovered?
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[21:30] <Laurenceb> amell: more importantly, theres rain over korea
[21:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> malgar: no, due to weather breakdown rescue mission is planned for tommorow
[21:31] <Laurenceb> uh oh
[21:31] <Laurenceb> bad weather at B-46 too?
[21:32] <amell> sp9uob: nice max altitude! 40461m
[21:32] <malgar> SP9UOB-Tom: is seems quite hilly and tree covered there
[21:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its been dipping ever since it changed direction
[21:32] <LeoBodnar> it's right at the front
[21:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> seems like a little level off maybe ?
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[21:34] <amell> what is intended/planned destination for B-46?
[21:34] <Upu> haha
[21:35] <Upu> up
[21:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> along
[21:35] <mattbrejza> but not too far up
[21:35] <Reb-SM3ULC> hehe
[21:35] <amell> first wrong way transatlantic HAB?
[21:35] <Reb-SM3ULC> >200 km would be cool
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[21:36] <SP9UOB-Tom> malgar: yes, and strong wind today with heavy rain
[21:36] <amell> surprised we have a HABber in Yemen - SQ6AX
[21:36] <SP9UOB-Tom> amell: he has swithed the poles ;-)
[21:36] <amell> I think he put his coords in wrong
[21:36] <amell> yep
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[21:40] <LeoBodnar> Yemen and N Korea are two countries that don't allow ham radio use
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[21:40] <amell> So what does your code do when overflying those countries? :)
[21:41] <malgar> SP9UOB-Tom: do you have the exact point of landing through gsm? how would you search it?
[21:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> malgar: no, battery should allow tracker to run for 2 more days
[21:42] <Upu> my new ones can do 75 hours on an AA SP9UOB-Tom
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[21:44] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: i dont know where to buy 4060's :-)
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[21:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: my PIC should be more energy efficient than your atmega ;-)
[21:45] <Upu> in theory in practice there is next to nothing in it
[21:46] <LeoBodnar> you will find that you launch more often if they survive less
[21:48] <mattbrejza> if you want to use less battery run the transmitter on less power
[21:48] <mattbrejza> although we're not rreally that short on power
[21:48] <mattbrejza> (energy)
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[21:52] <Reb-SM3ULC> b-46 on the way up again.. :)
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[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> ah I am looking forward to work on HAB again
[22:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> from the news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mp0VwLEW6E&feature=youtu.be
[22:02] <SA6BSS> what
[22:02] <SA6BSS> whats exact freq on SR0FLY
[22:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> SA6BSS: should be around 437.645 i think
[22:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> night all
[22:05] <SA6BSS> oki, tnx, will lett the reciever run over night
[22:05] <SA6BSS> gn
[22:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> SA6BSS: thank You
[22:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> gn
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[22:43] <nats`> some people here with experience concerning reprap ?
[22:43] <SpeedEvil> yes. (not me)
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[22:43] <nats`> I would like to know if it's good enough to do custom casing
[22:43] <SpeedEvil> For?
[22:44] <nats`> basic casing for pcba
[22:44] <nats`> no fancy precise piece
[22:44] <SpeedEvil> pcba?
[22:44] <nats`> pcb assembly
[22:44] <nats`> circuit board :)
[22:44] <SpeedEvil> You can make reasonably precise plastic shapes.
[22:45] <SpeedEvil> +-.5mm is quite achievable on most machines.
[22:45] <nats`> oky it's enough for that :)
[22:45] <nats`> because at the moment casing is often the worst part of my projects
[22:45] <nats`> either I must make bigger PCB (and price)
[22:45] <nats`> orhaving crappy casing
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> Or just make a nice wood case.
[22:47] <nats`> uhhmm wood cnc could be great too
[22:47] <nats`> need to check price :)
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> Boxes aren't that hard to make by hand
[22:48] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PCN6MdbPgw
[22:48] <nats`> Hard = Technically Hard * lazyness coefficient
[22:49] <SpeedEvil> Cutting 6 bits of plywood, and gluing them together is really fast
[22:49] <nats`> yep maybe I should do that
[22:50] <SpeedEvil> Or bending metal
[22:50] <nats`> I can have such big equipment :\
[22:50] <nats`> I'm in an appartment
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[22:51] <nats`> can't
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/m3d/the-micro-the-first-truly-consumer-3d-printer
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[22:51] <nats`> uhhmm I can have a reprap not need of such tiny stuff
[22:52] <nats`> it's more the noise the dust etc
[22:56] <malgar> http://descanso.jpl.nasa.gov/DPSummary/Descanso3--Cassini2.pdf 82 interesting pages :D
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[23:12] <amell> nats: why cant you just buy a box from maplin? save yourself some heartache.
[23:15] <nats`> amell it's always the same problem you need to constrain the pcb for the box
[23:15] <nats`> and sometime it makes you 1.5 time the area
[23:15] <nats`> on 2 sided pcb it's not a problem
[23:15] <nats`> but on 4 layers it becomes a real cost
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