highaltitude.log.20140101

[00:00] <K9JKM> Happy UTC New Year
[00:00] <cm13g09> yep - basically spot on
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[00:00] <arko> happy new year UTC!
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[00:00] <cm13g09> same to all of you
[00:00] <gonzo_> happy new year. may all your flights float (unless you don't want them to!)
[00:00] <cm13g09> and yes mfa298
[00:00] <cm13g09> it WAS the one you thought it was#
[00:01] <mfa298> Happy new year (sounds more like a war zone outside than new years)
[00:01] <cm13g09> yeah - agreed
[00:02] <chrisstubbs> Happy new year all!
[00:02] <cm13g09> same to you chrisstubbs
[00:02] <gonzo_> same here. therevwere some preamature ones, but the clap of thunder silenced them
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[00:03] <Lunar_Lander> Happy New Year!
[00:03] <gonzo_> any hab new year resolutions?
[00:03] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[00:03] <Lunar_Lander> fly!
[00:03] <Lunar_Lander> x
[00:03] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[00:03] <cm13g09> dear god... I think it got worse....
[00:03] <chrisstubbs> To fly this darn SSDV CHDK thing I have been putting off
[00:04] <gonzo_> to standardise on summut more efficient than rtty?
[00:04] <cm13g09> Slade's rendition of Auld Lang Syne.....
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[00:04] <gonzo_> though leo has sort of done that for us
[00:05] <tweetBot> @HighAltitudeLab: The High Altitude Laboratory wishes everyone a happy and fruitful year 2014. #ukhas
[00:05] <gonzo_> mine should be to fly summut more than a bare tracker
[00:06] <cm13g09> just got wished HNY by Freenode Global Message
[00:06] <f5vnf> bonne annee
[00:07] <mfa298> hmmm, I think there are more fireworks near here than for bonfire night
[00:07] <Lunar_Lander> cm13g09, yeah got that too
[00:08] <Laurenceb_> happy new heavy metal contamination
[00:08] Action: Laurenceb_ looks at all the fireworks
[00:08] <cm13g09> lol
[00:08] <arko> did fsphil launch his hab?
[00:09] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[00:09] <cm13g09> meanwhile - 30 mins 'til I can go to bed
[00:10] <cm13g09> still copying virtual disks around :P
[00:10] <mfa298> sounds like the rains arrived now and the fireworks have pretty much stopped
[00:10] <cm13g09> lol
[00:10] <gonzo_> sounds like you are partying as much as me!
[00:10] <cm13g09> gonzo_: was that at me?
[00:10] <gonzo_> rr
[00:10] <cm13g09> rr?
[00:11] <gonzo_> roger
[00:11] <cm13g09> ah right
[00:12] <cm13g09> 10GB to go....
[00:14] Action: mfa298 hopes that really bright flash of light outside was lightning rather than a firework
[00:14] <gonzo_> same here about 30mins ago, must have drifted east
[00:15] <es5nhc> Happy New Year!
[00:15] <mikestir> hny
[00:17] <K9JKM> Snowing about 10cm now in Chicago
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[00:19] <fsphil> arko: nope :) too busy eating mini sausage rolls
[00:19] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[00:20] <fsphil> happy new year everyone
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[00:21] <gonzo_> you've just sprayed the chan with pastry crumbs
[00:21] <fsphil> mfa298: there is some lightning on the south coast
[00:21] <fsphil> nice extra fireworks display :)
[00:21] <gonzo_> driftung east
[00:21] <mikestir> the fireworks from london looked like they were being blown off down the thames a bit
[00:22] <fsphil> looked really wet
[00:22] <fsphil> nice display, I'll have to go over sometime
[00:22] <mfa298> fsphil: it was followed by the re-assuring sound of thunder (at least I hope that's what it was)
[00:22] <fsphil> lol
[00:22] <gonzo_> and the trafalga fountain full of pissed scotsmen?
[00:23] <mfa298> if not it might have done some improvments in that area of the city.
[00:23] <fsphil> http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php?lang=en&subpage_0=12
[00:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Lightnong set off the display ?
[00:23] <fsphil> a lone flash on there north west of here
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[00:28] <Laurenceb_> sometimes theres odd flashes
[00:28] <Laurenceb_> noise correlating or something
[00:28] <fsphil> wonder how accurate that is
[00:28] <fsphil> could just be noise
[00:28] <fsphil> really should get my receiver workign
[00:29] <mikestir> I once played with one of the boltek lightning detectors. It just had a pair of antennas: one loop and one vertical iirc
[00:29] <mikestir> it somehow managed to determine range from that
[00:30] <mikestir> I don't think it can have been that accurate
[00:30] <fsphil> it isn't
[00:30] <fsphil> there's a few online ones, and it gets distance wrong
[00:31] <fsphil> been comparing them with what's on blitzortung
[00:31] <mikestir> it's probably just a guess based on signal strength
[00:31] <fsphil> yea
[00:31] <fsphil> the storms tend to appear as lines away from the receiver
[00:31] <mikestir> blitzortung is a time difference of arrival based thing isn't it?
[00:31] <fsphil> yea
[00:31] <fsphil> using a distributed network of receivers
[00:32] <fsphil> each stations uploads an accurate timestamp of each event
[00:32] <arko> fsphil: as you should!
[00:32] <arko> with the mini rolls
[00:32] <fsphil> mmm
[00:32] <fsphil> I am now too full
[00:32] <fsphil> and there's a box of chocolate sitting beside me
[00:33] <cm13g09> LOL at Google Logo :P
[00:33] <Darkside> its kind of creepy
[00:33] <Darkside> the smiles are a bit weird
[00:33] <cm13g09> yeah
[00:33] <cm13g09> the 3 has been chucked out of the disco now
[00:33] <fsphil> forced smile
[00:33] <fsphil> the google elves are behind the scenes with tazers
[00:48] <Laurenceb_> http://www.st.com/web/en/press/t3505
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[01:00] <SpeedEvil> Happy new year everyone!
[01:01] Action: SpeedEvil doesn't know much about mbed
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[01:06] <fsphil> it's where you put your msheets
[01:06] <Laurenceb_> its compiling with "the cloud"
[01:07] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb_: that seems so exciting I just want to jump up and down. OMG! compiling in the cloud! I must tweet about it.
[01:07] <Laurenceb_> lolz
[01:08] <Laurenceb_> its also for targetting "the internet of things"
[01:08] <Laurenceb_> on a related note
[01:08] <Laurenceb_> http://quantifiedself.com/
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[01:09] <mfa298> if it's compiling in the cloud does than mean you can complain if it's the wrong sort of rain/cloud
[01:10] <Laurenceb_> http://www.designspark.com/knowledge-item/building-the-internet-of-things-with-mbed---rfid-tweeter
[01:10] <SpeedEvil> I am only really in favour of the internet of things if I can get a login shell and source to those things.
[01:10] <Laurenceb_> KNOWLEDGE ITEM
[01:12] <Laurenceb_> oh dear thats "a thing"
[01:12] <Laurenceb_> http://knowledgemanagement.wikifoundry.com/page/knowledge+item
[01:12] <Laurenceb_> http://support.citavi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=6492
[01:15] <hyte> hi, I have a qfn32 chip, anyone hand soldered one of those before?
[01:16] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[01:16] <Laurenceb_> well... no
[01:16] <Laurenceb_> i used a stencil
[01:16] <SpeedEvil> hyte: you can hand solder them.
[01:17] <SpeedEvil> If I could bebothered, I could link you to the PDF - but as my old bookmarks aren't online, I won't.
[01:17] <SpeedEvil> The general procedure: Make a PCB footprint with the lands of the QFN sticking out a bit more than normal.
[01:17] <hyte> I've not had much luck.
[01:17] <SpeedEvil> Tin the QFN to build up about 0.5mm of solder on the land.
[01:17] <SpeedEvil> Hot air reflow it.
[01:18] <hyte> Hot air I do not have
[01:18] <SpeedEvil> Now, with a normal soldering iron, fill up the lands one by one until they touch the bottom of the chip - and make contact
[01:19] <SpeedEvil> I'd strongly recommend you get one - a hot air soldering station and soldering iron is about 65 quid
[01:19] <hyte> I have not been able to get it to stick, lifted tracks each time
[01:19] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-IN1-SMD-SMT-SOLDERING-REWORK-STATION-welder-HOT-AIR-IRON-KADA-852D-220V-/130924368806?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e7bb353a6
[01:20] <SpeedEvil> What have you been trying to solder it with
[01:20] <hyte> normal 30w soldering iron with a needle tip
[01:21] <SpeedEvil> temperature controlled?
[01:21] <hyte> nope
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[01:21] <SpeedEvil> IMO, temperature control is pretty mandatory - that may be why. You aren't using phenolic PCBs are you?
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[01:23] <hyte> pretty sur they are standard glass fibre
[01:24] <SpeedEvil> Lifting tracks is generally an indication of either a really, really bad PCB (but generally all glass fibre ones will be OK) a hugely overheated tip - or going at it like a jackhammer.
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[01:25] <hyte> well looks like I have found my next soldering iron/hot air station
[01:26] <SpeedEvil> First though.
[01:26] <SpeedEvil> Is the tip of your iron shiny?
[01:26] <SpeedEvil> (I have no experience with the above vendor)
[01:27] <hyte> when i solder yes. Had a bit of a rough time on lead free solder messing up tips but now I am back to leaded
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[02:32] <beingaware> SignaLink worth buying?
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[02:47] <gb73d> if your plannin to TX data yes
[02:47] <gb73d> not needed to rx data
[02:55] <beingaware> I plan to tx a world of data :P
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[06:17] Action: heathkid hates lead free solder with a passion!
[06:18] <heathkid> at work we keep it locked up so we don't use it by mistake
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[07:31] <gurgalof> heathkid: I've put varning labels on the lead free solder in the hackerspace
[07:32] <heathkid> good idea!
[07:32] <heathkid> I've screwed up over $50 worth of Metcal tips by grabbing the wrong solder
[07:33] <gurgalof> every lead free solder spool I've seen was green, so I'm not touching green solder spools
[07:33] <heathkid> don't trust they are all green
[07:34] <gurgalof> to be honest I have one at home, but I haven't used it since I soldered stuff professionally
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[08:59] <Darkside> ok who's responsible for launching the sex doll
[08:59] <heathkid> ???
[09:00] <Darkside> someting on th elocal news
[09:00] <Darkside> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/30/sex-doll-launched-into-space_n_4520493.html
[09:00] <Upu> lol
[09:01] <Upu> well I'm guessing someone in america
[09:01] <Darkside> yeah
[09:01] <Darkside> US
[09:01] <Darkside> just saw that
[09:01] <heathkid> over 100k ft.!!! dang!
[09:01] <Upu> evidence : a) Everything looks heavy b) imperial units
[09:02] <heathkid> ah
[09:03] <heathkid> "Missy" was carried up by a helium balloon (cherry)
[09:05] <heathkid> LOL!!!!
[09:06] <heathkid> that video is awesome!
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[09:10] <Upu> morning SP9UOB-Tom
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[09:10] <Upu> I'm going to clean up Spacenear.us today
[09:10] <Upu> so take your screen shots pls
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[09:50] <Reb-SM3ULC> ad
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[11:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> Morning ALl
[11:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> Happy New Year :-)
[11:15] <Upu> hey Tom
[11:16] <Upu> and to you
[11:16] <Upu> can I remove the tracks from Spacenear.Us ?
[11:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: yes, i have already taken snapshots :-)
[11:16] <Upu> super thx
[11:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> UPU: next time will be WSPR, maybe activated on tochdown to transmit last known position
[11:19] <Upu> super :)
[11:19] <Upu> what was the HF transmitter
[11:20] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: ad9851 + bs170 in E class as final stage
[11:20] <Upu> ok worked well
[11:21] <SP9UOB-Tom> UPU: here are some photos: https://plus.google.com/photos/108111435264693957520/albums/5962384967562756657?partnerid=gplp0
[11:21] <SP9UOB-Tom> https://plus.google.com/photos/108111435264693957520/albums/5962384967562756657/5962385015527906978?partnerid=gplp0&pid=5962385015527906978&oid=108111435264693957520
[11:21] <SP9UOB-Tom> here is DDS board, and below controller + final stage
[11:21] <Upu> looks like a box of spare parts :)
[11:22] <SP9UOB-Tom> hehhehe
[11:22] <SP9UOB-Tom> but it was working really well
[11:22] <Upu> absolutely
[11:22] <SP9UOB-Tom> unreadable data was received in Poland to about 13 UTC
[11:24] <fsphil> when?
[11:25] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: when what :) ?
[11:30] <fsphil> was the unreadable data received?
[11:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: about 13 utc on 29-12-2013
[11:33] <fsphil> ah, thought it was more recent
[11:33] <fsphil> would it still be transmitting?
[11:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> it was definitley falling - but no burst, leak or small hole
[11:34] <SP9UOB-Tom> it should be working for at least 3 days bot not in -50 deg C cold
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[14:47] <cm13g09> craag: ping
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[14:59] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[15:01] <cm13g09> afternoon jcoxon
[15:01] <cm13g09> (although I was just about to go out!)
[15:01] <cm13g09> (and yes, in this miserable weather!)
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[15:09] <jcoxon> cm13g09, good luck, it is foul
[15:12] <fsphil> here too
[15:12] <fsphil> yay 2014
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[15:12] <cm13g09> thanks jcoxon
[15:17] <S_Mark> Happy 2014!
[15:18] <chrisstubbs> Happy new year Mark!
[15:18] <S_Mark> Thanks and you!
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[15:33] <eroomde> jcoxon: made it back
[15:33] <eroomde> just
[15:33] <eroomde> not nice out
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[15:56] <jcoxon> eroomde, glad your home
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[16:05] <SpeedEvil> eroomde: :)
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[16:38] <cm13g09> oh dear - it gets no better.....
[16:38] <cm13g09> I thought the jokes might get better in 2014....
[16:38] <cm13g09> they don't :P
[16:44] <kokey> the aircon can't keep up, it's 27 degrees inside of the flat
[16:45] <Reb-SM3ULC> F or C?
[16:45] <kokey> C
[16:45] <kokey> F is for fossils
[16:46] <cm13g09> kokey: where are you then?
[16:47] <cm13g09> for most of us we'd love to see temeratures of 20+ C :P
[16:47] <kokey> cm13g09: cape town
[16:47] <cm13g09> ah - lucky!
[16:47] <kokey> yeah cape town is great, if it wasn't filled with capetonians
[16:49] <Zuph> I'll trade you. It's costing $300 a month to keep this place heated to 18 C.
[16:49] <cm13g09> Zuph: heh!
[16:50] <SpeedEvil> Zuph: you can add clothes.
[16:50] <SpeedEvil> Zuph: It's really, really hard to keep confortable when temp exceeds what you're comfortable in naked.
[16:50] <SpeedEvil> I note that it's 8C in here.
[16:51] Action: SpeedEvil hasn't yet been able to get his heatpump fitted.
[16:51] <mattbrejza> dont your fingers get cold when typing?
[16:51] <Zuph> I was a lot more comfortable paying $300 a month to keep a different place cooled to 27 C this summer :-p
[16:51] <SpeedEvil> mattbrejza: My keyboard is under the blankets with me, on an electric blanket
[16:51] <SpeedEvil> I'm nice and warm.
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> It's just getting stuff done is so _SLOW_ when I have perhaps an hour functional each day tops.
[16:52] <mattbrejza> i guess thats easier when you have an actual keyboard rathe than a laptop
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> IBM trackpoint keyboard++
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[17:02] <jcoxon> over they years i've managed to acquire a lot of weird parts
[17:02] <jcoxon> currently i'm hacking together a deadbug ublox Neo-6q GPS
[17:03] <Upu> doing anything interesting with it ?
[17:03] <jcoxon> hey Upu, its outputting nmea
[17:03] <jcoxon> so thats a start
[17:03] <Upu> is indeed :)
[17:04] <jcoxon> the question is with the antenna i've put on it whether it'll actually get anything
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[17:14] <kokey> I guess I should enjoy the heat here as we are considering a move to Ireland later in the year
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[17:27] <eroomde> kokey: you're like a yoyo, hemispherically speaking
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[17:32] <kokey> eroomde: yup, in fact a dream of mine would be to spend at least 3 months per year in the opposite hemisphere
[17:34] <eroomde> conveniently visa-friendly aspiration
[17:35] <SpeedEvil> kokey: you need to think about energy storage. He had been eight years upon a project for extracting sunbeams out of cucumbers, which were to be put into vials hermetically sealed, and let out to warm the air in raw, inclement summer.
[17:35] <SpeedEvil> Coincidentally - the writer was Irish.
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[17:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> one of last recordings of seba6 telemetry: http://sp9uob.verox.pl/pliki/seba6.wav
[17:52] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, any data?
[17:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: barely decodable. habitat has later data frames. I've just got it by e-mail
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[17:56] <YO9ICT> SP9UOB-Tom Hi, when was that recording made?
[17:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> YO9ICT: according to frame number between 08:51:42 and 08:56:23 on sunday
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[18:02] <peluchin> hola
[18:03] <jcoxon> hey
[18:03] <peluchin> what's going on here?
[18:04] <jcoxon> quiet day on the channel
[18:04] <peluchin> I've got an idea to use with raspberry pi
[18:04] <peluchin> do you know where can I post it?
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[18:06] <jcoxon> peluchin, is it related to balloons etc?
[18:06] <peluchin> it's related to security and privacy
[18:07] <jcoxon> ummm probably not here then
[18:07] <peluchin> oh, and CDN's
[18:07] <peluchin> yep, I get it. well, thanks anyway
[18:07] <peluchin> do you send/transmit data from balloon to balloon?
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[18:30] <Bloofshead> LOL
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[18:32] <mfa298> well he wasn't laughing for long
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[22:03] <number10> shush
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[22:27] <fsphil> sherlock's over, we can all talk again
[22:28] <daveake> lol
[22:28] <arko> NOT ABOUT SHERLOCK
[22:28] <arko> americans still in here
[22:28] <daveake> Oh yeah the bit where he ....
[22:28] <fsphil> and that other bit!
[22:28] <fsphil> that was the best bit
[22:29] <daveake> Yes but which moustache was the best?
[22:29] <arko> molly's moustache
[22:30] <Lunar_Lander> I found this quite funny http://io9.com/the-greatest-newspaper-correction-ever-written-49-year-1491590487
[22:30] <Lunar_Lander> about Robert Goddard and The Times
[22:30] <iain_g4sgx> Evening all, pardon me if my tracker appears on the map tonight, Im doing some tests. Finally got round to converting it to a RFM42B Tx instead of the NTX
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[23:55] <WillTablet> Ping eroomde_
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