[00:01] <mfa298> I'm not sure you're getting the purpose of RSID.
[00:01] <mfa298> It's not so much a signalling method as a protocol for telling the application how to recieve the following data.
[00:02] <mfa298> you could use RSID to tell the application to use the same signalling method as RSID uses for the following data, in the same what that RSID can tell the software to use DominoEX16 or a variety of other modes.
[00:03] <mfa298> in itself RSID does not contain any useful user data.
[00:04] <ike> yes, it's metadata
[00:04] <mfa298> In networking terms it's like an ethernet header. As a user you have no interest (or even knowledge of) the ethernet frames on the middle hops of the data stream.
[00:05] <ike> except for the MTU of ethernet frames on the middle hops
[00:05] <ike> :)
[00:06] <ike> you may be master in the sky, but underworld I'm a god
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[00:07] <mfa298> so what's the advantage of having meta data that potentially takes 6 times longer to send than the data that follows it (in the case of a 64bit RSID as your suggesting and a higherspeed data transmission)
[00:08] <ike> but it didn't feel right, just like USB VID, why can't there be 4E9 VID per person?
[00:09] <mfa298> 12 bit RSID sounds like a reasonably compromise. it's large enough that it's going to last a decent time and short enough that it wont take forever to send.
[00:10] <mikestir> and you could always have a code that means "extended rsid follows"
[00:11] <mfa298> or in 40 years time RSIDv6 with 128 bit addresses.
[00:11] <ike> mfa298 yes, but 1.4s is not so low poer
[00:11] <ike> power
[00:11] <mfa298> low power ??
[00:12] <ike> you can send for 0.2s data and turn off TX module
[00:12] <ike> TXing for 1.4 seconds is not low power
[00:13] <mfa298> but if you're sending 0.2s of data using RSID to define which mode to use then you'll have a 1.6s transmission (1.4s for 12 bit RSID + 0.2s for the actual data)
[00:15] <mfa298> with what you said earlier of saying it should be 64bits for the RSID then that would be more like 0.2s of data + 6s of RSID (so 1/30th of the used power is actually of use)
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[00:16] <ike> mfa298 you can send 100 bits in 1 second
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[00:17] <mfa298> but not in RSID that's the whole point.
[00:18] <mfa298> with the right mode and enough bandwidth you can send 150million bits in a second. but not with the mode used by RSID.
[00:19] <ike> you can send 300 at 2.4GHz and 300 at 5GHz at the same time
[00:20] <mikestir> there wouldn't be much point in having a 64QAM mode descriptor sent in 10us followed by data in dominoex
[00:20] <ike> so that's 600Mbps
[00:20] <MLow> uhhhhhggg, the wait is killing me
[00:21] <ike> so there are spiders that use balloons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_(spider) add ) to the end
[00:21] <mfa298> the *whole* point of RSID is that it's sent in a way that you should be able to decode it if there's a chance of decoding the data.
[00:21] <ike> some day we can lunch spier types balloons
[00:21] <mfa298> i.e. RSID *will* work, but the data may not.
[00:22] <ike> and those spider types balloons will need IPv6 ID's
[00:22] <ike> and mesh network of course
[00:22] <mikestir> I think you need to go and have a chat with messrs hartley and shannon
[00:23] <mfa298> for that to happen RSID will be using a relativly slow mode (some form of MFSK-4 I think) which takes around 1.4 seconds to send the 12bit identifier.
[00:24] <ike> people still use RTTY 50, i know it's hilarious
[00:25] <ike> look they sell NRF24L01 fakes at higher price http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pcs-NRF24L01-2-4GHz-Wireless-Transceiver-Module-SI24R1-for-microcontroller-AK-/281222465669?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417a2a4885
[00:25] <mfa298> people use what makes sense for their purpose, equipment and skill. RTTY often is a good starting point with those criteria
[00:25] <ike> I know that they are more powerfull, but they are fakes
[00:26] <mfa298> ike, and those probably aren't much good at 800km+ (the hab reception record)
[00:26] <mikestir> they probably aren't much good at 800cm+ if there's some plasterboard in the way
[00:27] <MLow> eh, it's only been 10days
[00:28] <mfa298> also "more powerful", the only power rating I see is 0dbm (so 1mW, not exactly high power)
[00:28] <MLow> and most of that the holiday season
[00:28] <ike> yes, 2.4G is awful for hi distance
[00:30] <MLow> Upu: im thinking that the holiday season is a bad time to do international shipping
[00:30] <MLow> lol
[00:31] <ike> mfa298 they are 7dBm
[00:31] <ike> with the right setting
[00:31] <mfa298> so about 5mW
[00:32] <ike> SI24R1 default mode output power is 2~3dBm, if you want to output 7dBm, the register address 0x06 (RF_SETUP) the lowest register write 1 (NRF24L01+ without the use of the bit, the default is 0), namely 0x06 register a minimum of four to 1111
[00:32] <mfa298> oh so much power (/sarcasm)
[00:32] <ike> it's better than 0dBm
[00:32] <ike> that is 4 times more distance
[00:32] <ike> in open area
[00:33] <MLow> hey so im doing 144 and a 1/4wave, im realizing that 1/4 wave antenna is huge
[00:33] <ike> here is DS lean about it http://www.dn-ic.com/uploads/soft/130520/SI24R1.pdf
[00:35] <MLow> are there some other solutions to a 2m antenna on a payload?
[00:35] <ike> MLow there is 21MHz with 1/4 antenna launch tomorrow
[00:35] <mikestir> 6dB will get you double the distance in ideal conditions (i.e. never), so 7dB certainly isn't going to get you 4x
[00:35] <MLow> ike whoa
[00:35] <MLow> ike dipole though right?
[00:35] <ike> http://ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:superlaunchsat $$seba6 - 21.115 MHz USB DOMEX22 with RSID - 500 mW output
[00:37] <ike> MLow you should ask the guy who is launching it
[00:37] <ike> I speak with hime yesterday
[00:37] <ike> but I forgot him
[00:37] <ike> he use DDS and 500mW class E amp
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[00:39] <MLow> 6am here? woof
[00:39] <mfa298> on 21Mhz (and possibly for 144Mhz) people tend to use a dipole with one leg between balloon and payload and one below the payload.
[00:39] <mfa298> or use something like a ladder line J-Pole.
[00:41] <MLow> hm
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[00:41] <MLow> wonder if i can pick it up over here :D
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[00:42] <ike> MLow with good solar activity you should be able to pick 21MHz anyware on earth
[00:44] <MLow> just need to make a long wire i guess
[00:44] <ike> MLow look at antenna N14 http://www.ti.com/graphics/tool/CC-Antenna-DK.jpg
[00:45] <MLow> #14?
[00:45] <MLow> what about it
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[00:47] <mfa298> thats not going to be that effiecient on 21Mhz (and probably not that good on 169MHz either
[00:48] <MLow> lol for a while i let my mind think about a 21mhz yagi
[00:55] <ike> mfa298 with helix antenna he can get 5mW out of 100mW TX
[00:56] <MLow> 5%
[00:59] <ike> -13dB
[01:00] <ike> not bad
[01:01] <ike> I wana know more about B-34, 35 and 36 $$B-34 434.501 MHz Contestia 8/1000, APRS MOXER-4
[01:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> gn all
[01:01] <ike> are they dualbanders?
[01:01] <ike> how do they look
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[01:05] <Willdude123> If I want to work sats with a handheld antenna, can I get one that works on both 2m and 70cms?
[01:05] <ike> yes
[01:07] <ike> http://www.worldwidedx.com/product-reviews/35025-arrow-handheld-2m-440-satellite-antenna-review.html
[01:13] <MLow> a 1/4 2m is a 5/8 70cm yes?
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[01:16] <ike> MLow http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=104785
[01:17] <ike> but it's not 2.15 dbi
[01:17] <MLow> lol
[01:17] <ike> more like -21dbi
[01:17] <MLow> a dipole would be better
[01:18] <ike> for dipole you will need symmetric output
[01:18] <ike> what is your TX module?
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[01:20] <ike> 144.390 MHz radiometrix?
[01:23] <Willdude123> http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/146-437.html will I need a duplexer with one of these?
[01:26] <MLow> ike yes
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[01:27] <ike> MLow so you will need baloon?
[01:28] <ike> Willdude123 I can't help you with that, maybe you don't need duplexer , but just a cap and induction
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[01:36] <MLow> ike i have a balloon
[01:37] <ike> https://www.google.com/search?q=balun&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=PSu-UsbNJuGWyQOYyYCoCA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=933
[01:46] <MLow> yeah?
[01:49] <ike> you will need that
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[02:08] <MLow> so how many launches are there saturday
[02:09] <MLow> 10 call signs
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[02:23] <oscarpaz> hi!
[02:26] <MLow> hi oscarpaz
[02:27] <oscarpaz> Hi!,I am trying to follow the raspberry pi, do you know something about it?
[02:28] <ike> isn't cheaper to fly 10 arduinos than 1 R pi?
[02:28] <MLow> ike: what?
[02:29] <ike> I preffer to fly 10 balloons with 10 arduinos
[02:29] <ike> than 1 balloon with 1 R pi
[02:29] <MLow> how much are you thinking a rpi costs?
[02:30] <ike> 10 times more than arduino
[02:30] <MLow> an arduino, or an atmega 328pu
[02:30] <mfa298> ike depends on what you're trying to do. for ssdv the pi+picam is cheaper than a suitable cam for avr/arduino
[02:31] <MLow> mfa298: 800mhz arm vs 16mhz avr....
[02:31] <ike> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-Mini-atmega328-5V-16M-Replace-ATmega128-Arduino-Compatible-Nano-NEW-/131053554958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e83668d0e
[02:32] <ike> SSTV is another story
[02:32] <MLow> lol delivery date is jan 16th
[02:32] <mfa298> ike thats the main reason people fly pi's
[02:32] <oscarpaz> so, that's mean delivery was delayed?
[02:32] <mfa298> also i wouldnt trust that clone on a baloon
[02:33] <MLow> i would sooner trust my soldering than a china arduino clone
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[02:35] <ike> clones use original chips
[02:36] <mfa298> and all the components rated to at least -40C with a crystal oscilator ??
[02:37] <ike> you just need 1KG of putonium to keep it warm
[02:37] <mfa298> just because they used an avr doesn't mean the design or other components are good
[02:37] <MLow> ie the crystal on that thing has no caps, and no resistor
[02:38] <MLow> and no im not convinced that is a real atmega328 seeing as the whole board is cheaper than unit price for atmega328@1000pc
[02:38] <MLow> call me crazy >.>
[02:39] <ike> there is no crystal
[02:39] <ike> and you don't need resistor on atmega
[02:39] <ike> and there are MCUs that don't need caps
[02:39] <mfa298> I thoml someone tried an atmega with no xtal, didn't work very well as it got cold as the internal oscilator is crap
[02:40] <qyx_> its ceramic resonator with 0.5% tolerance
[02:40] <ike> cheaper than unit price for atmega328@1000pc+dealer charge
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[02:41] <MLow> hey well, go ahead and fly a couple for us and report back you may be on to something, personally i'll spend the extra 7$ to have a real one designed well *shrug*
[02:41] <qyx_> also if you feed it with 12V and try to pull mentioned 150mA from it, lot of smoke will be released
[02:42] <qyx_> if the vreg is not thermally limited
[02:46] <ike> arduino with xtal http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leonardo-Pro-Micro-ATmega32U4-IDE-1-0-3-Bootloader-replace-Mini-for-Arduino-/161180119731?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item25871572b3
[02:46] <ike> and I don't know why but new original arduinos and new launchpads are with ceramic resonator with 0.5% tolerance
[02:50] <MLow> ike that one seems nice but still irks me it's so cheap
[02:51] <mfa298> so ike when are you flying a payload ?
[02:51] <ike> well you can but it from me 100 times the price if that is your concern
[02:51] <MLow> id maybe get a few to play with, but yeah, not to fly
[02:51] <ike> mfa298 I don't fly
[02:51] <ike> I rocketier
[02:52] <ike> when I go old I will launch Voyager 3
[02:53] <mfa298> there's lots of experience in this channel and that experience generally all says dont fly a cheap clone as its much more likely to fail
[02:53] <mfa298> until you prove that experience wrong i thinkany sensible person will get the real thing
[03:17] <MLow> my convern is just that some people justify saving $10 that way
[03:17] <MLow> concern*
[03:38] <MLow> the ebay listing for the 32u4 lies
[03:38] <MLow> about the pins
[03:38] <MLow> not all are broken out to the breadboard spaced holes lol
[03:39] <MLow> really its 12 digital(5 are pwm), 4 analog
[03:39] <MLow> thats a lot still but yeah it lies
[03:41] <MLow> "20 digital input/output pins (7 as PWM outputs + 12 as analog inputs)" thats 32 pins, and the board has 24 holes
[03:41] <MLow> ok im done lol
[03:41] <MLow> wish i had 12m to track $$seba6
[03:42] <MLow> the rtl-sdr stops at 22mhz
[03:42] <MLow> lol
[03:42] <MLow> doubtfull 500mw would make it across the globe and be decoded but maybe at altitude
[03:46] <Darkside> er
[03:46] <Darkside> altitud wont help
[03:46] <Darkside> altitude*
[03:46] <Darkside> the best it will do is give you a lower takeoff angle
[03:46] <Darkside> (for HF this is)
[03:47] <ike> MLow can't you convert it somehow
[03:47] <ike> like with 20MHz xtal and look at 41MHz?
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[05:37] <MLow> 3.5 hours or so :D
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[07:03] <daveake> timed out
[07:04] <x-f> this wasn't his time
[07:04] <daveake> Was about to say "wrong time" :)
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[07:19] <jcoxon> morning
[07:19] <daveake> morning
[07:21] <jcoxon> daveake, all set?
[07:22] <daveake> Just putting the payload box together :p
[07:22] <daveake> Aside from that, yes :)
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[07:24] <Upu> morning
[07:24] <x-f> morning
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[07:32] <es5nhc> Gud Moaning!
[07:32] <es5nhc> (obvious reference to Allo! Allo!)
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[07:39] <DL5SFI_Steffen> good morning
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[07:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> morning All
[07:49] <jcoxon> hey SP9UOB-Tom
[07:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: lovely morning here in Poland
[07:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> clear sky :-)
[07:51] <daveake> Pretty here just a few wispy clouds
[07:51] <daveake> nice and still
[07:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> im launching in 1h10m
[07:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> im aiming to 1 m/s ascend
[07:52] <jcoxon> ooo nice
[07:52] <jcoxon> going to need some russian/ukranian listeners i suspect
[07:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: no, england and US - 21 MHz beacon
[07:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> when it got over Asia, then Poland RX :-)
[07:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> and Japan
[07:53] <jcoxon> hehe i also mean the other flights coming your way
[07:53] <tweetBot> @AnthonyStirk: If you've never tracker a balloon before today is a good day to start. Many balloons & modes to try : http://t.co/btquiKGlDv #hamr #ukhas
[07:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: sure, we are prepared - look at the map
[07:54] <jcoxon> yeah i had a look
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[07:54] <jcoxon> its going to be good
[07:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> im also txing aprs frames @10 MHz but i dont think thad somebody pick it up
[07:55] <tweetBot> @AnthonyStirk: We will be streaming live from the launch site http://t.co/wTpDrsYKrp , track live http://t.co/lRGfVq8Qrc #ukhas #hamr
[07:55] <arko> nice
[07:56] <daveake> We'll be streaming from my hab-o-cam too :)
[07:57] <tweetBot> @AnthonyStirk: If you want to get involved come chat on IRC http://t.co/axgeZWQP9D #ukhas #hamr expecting to see 200mph balloons !
[07:57] <Upu> oh yeah 1 sec
[07:57] <arko> :)
[07:57] <x-f> looks like only CLOUDY will be reporting speed
[07:58] <arko> craag: you still have that websdr?
[07:58] <Upu> x-f mobile web site does it
[07:58] <Upu> whats the URL to the Hab-O-Cam ?
[07:58] <Upu> http://www.batc.tv/streams/hab-o-cam
[07:58] <daveake> yes
[07:59] <daveake> I set that up last night
[07:59] <tweetBot> @AnthonyStirk: @daveake will also be streaming from his body mounted Pi powered HAB-O-Cam here : http://t.co/UCNUcJBz85 #ukhas #hamr
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[08:00] <daveake> Remind me to switch it off if I go to the loo :p
[08:00] <Upu> right best start packing up
[08:00] <arko> hmm to stay awake or not to stay awake...
[08:00] <Upu> I'd sleep
[08:00] <Upu> :)
[08:01] <arko> probably for the best
[08:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> arko: that time is in Your location ?
[08:01] <arko> 12:01am
[08:01] <Upu> right be with you in an hour or so daveake
[08:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> arko: not so late
[08:02] <arko> better sleep now and wake up early
[08:02] <arko> they probably wont be in the air until at least 3-4am
[08:02] <arko> Best of luck Upu and daveake!
[08:02] <x-f> and Tom, and Leo!
[08:03] <arko> ^ yes them too!
[08:03] <x-f> and Steve
[08:03] <x-f> and James
[08:03] <SP9UOB-Tom> we all going east :-)
[08:04] <x-f> oh, and another David, the list is so long
[08:04] <arko> GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
[08:04] <arko> SP9UOB-Tom: i'll get my radio ready
[08:04] <arko> T-minus 50 hours
[08:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> T minus 55 minutes
[08:05] <daveake> arko Listen out for Leo's too :)
[08:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> arko: time dillution ;-) ?
[08:06] <arko> daveake: will do!
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[08:06] <arko> SP9UOB-Tom: PST :)
[08:06] Action: SP9UOB-Tom got final approval from CAA
[08:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> clear to start
[08:07] <x-f> we have a tracking station in Namibia - V51PJ
[08:07] <daveake> always handy
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[08:11] <jcoxon> so, trying to work out why my flat is freezing this morning
[08:11] <jcoxon> boiler hasn't turned on
[08:11] <jcoxon> seems the thermostat signal isn't getting through - wonder if thats to do with leaving my payload on overnight testing...
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[08:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: also in Malasya :-)
[08:16] <x-f> Last Contact: -6250 hours ago, heh :)
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[08:16] <jcoxon> x-f, yeah i saw that
[08:16] <jcoxon> not sure how that happened
[08:17] <Reb-SM3ULC> Morning!
[08:18] <number10> morning
[08:19] <number10> nice clear sky and still - suffolk way jcoxon
[08:19] <es5nhc> Good luck to all the launchers today
[08:19] <jcoxon> excellent number10
[08:19] <jcoxon> i need to collect my car from the garage
[08:20] <jcoxon> number10, we need to decide on our vent size
[08:20] <number10> how is that worked out - payload mass and intended altitude?
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[08:21] <jcoxon> its not really worked out i don't think
[08:21] <jcoxon> http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/wiki/doku.php/missions:ballasthalo#float_data
[08:22] <jcoxon> so i've used 1.5mm diameter before
[08:22] <jcoxon> and got float with it
[08:22] <jcoxon> but the question is - is it large enough to survive sunrise
[08:23] <jcoxon> the data would say no
[08:24] <tweetBot> @daveake: Weather looking good for today's launches from Brightwalton see http://t.co/CVCDe0AX0A for more info #raspberrypi #UKHAS
[08:24] <number10> yes - did WB8ELK use anything other than 1/16"
[08:25] <jcoxon> don't think so
[08:25] <jcoxon> i'd be tempted to go for 2mm
[08:26] <jcoxon> if its a bit too big it'll just lose altitude overnight
[08:26] <jcoxon> and should warm in the morning
[08:26] <jcoxon> and rise again
[08:27] <jcoxon> oh he used 2x 1/16"
[08:28] <number10> 4.9mm
[08:28] <number10> did I get that wrong 3.175
[08:29] <jcoxon> the 2x1/16 didn't work, ascended to 23,000ft and then descended all the way down
[08:29] <jcoxon> we need pi r2
[08:32] <jcoxon> so the area of a 1.5mm hole is 1.767mm2
[08:37] Action: cm13g09 is awake
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[08:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> morning
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[08:48] <MLow> looks like seba6 is getting ready for takeoff
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[08:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yep. Anyone hear it on 21.115 yet?
[08:49] <MLow> nope
[08:49] <MLow> looks too low
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[08:51] <MLow> brb getting food stuffs
[08:52] <jcoxon> bbl
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[08:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Toms payloads are moving around
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[08:57] <MLow> i dont see nothing yet
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[08:58] <cm13g09> morning chrisstubbs
[08:58] <chrisstubbs> morning
[08:58] <cm13g09> win 38
[08:58] <cm13g09> oops
[08:58] <chrisstubbs> too many updates
[08:59] <cm13g09> no lol
[08:59] <cm13g09> too many IRC windows ;)
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[09:03] <MLow> not sure if launch or gps error...
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[09:07] <ibanezmatt13> looks like an awesome day for balloons today; Upu's getting a shift on down south too
[09:08] <MLow> i thinks launch
[09:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah
[09:08] <MLow> yeah
[09:08] <MLow> awesome
[09:09] <MLow> i see stuff on 21.115
[09:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> here too, but does not look like Domx22
[09:09] <MLow> no it looks like something totally differnt
[09:09] <MLow> wide as hell
[09:09] <MLow> what is it?
[09:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i have no idea, have it here too
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[09:10] <MLow> crap
[09:10] <MLow> what now
[09:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> looks like some HF Packet stuff
[09:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lets hope it stopes
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[09:11] <MLow> its off a bit from 21.115 too
[09:12] <daveake> Launch team all here now :)
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[09:12] <MLow> they are?
[09:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Failt Domx22 now
[09:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sorry Faint i mean
[09:13] <MLow> what i see isnt domex22
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[09:13] <MLow> :(
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[09:15] <Reb-SM3ULC> cool
[09:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> OZ5AGJ heard DOMX22 also, for a very shart time
[09:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> short
[09:17] <MLow> there it was
[09:18] <MLow> got it decoding
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[09:18] <MLow> i decoded that packet
[09:18] <MLow> at 1300m not bad
[09:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> where on the waterfall is it?
[09:19] <MLow> the little squares
[09:19] <MLow> :P
[09:19] <MLow> dl-fldigi just automatically adjusted to it
[09:20] <MLow> morse
[09:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> that crappy HF modems stuff kills all here
[09:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok heart it now
[09:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 21.115 @1700Hz
[09:21] <MLow> yeah for some reason that was really faint here
[09:22] <MLow> cw seems to be at 1664 *shrug*
[09:22] <MLow> that one was even fainter
[09:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jayyy now the HF modem stoped
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[09:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> first red packet $$$$seba6,31,092348,502SrorJi79,018J.2146,189n,63,916,4b*7ff6
[09:24] <MLow> it came in strong one packet for me
[09:24] <MLow> rest is super faint
[09:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> cw now
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[09:27] <es5nhc> How often does SEBA6 squawk?
[09:27] <x-f> once per minute
[09:27] <x-f> CW every five minutes
[09:28] <x-f> silence between frames, no beeps
[09:29] <es5nhc> thx
[09:29] <x-f> i'm hearing it on Twente websdr, but only partial decodes
[09:29] <x-f> CW now
[09:29] <es5nhc> Listening on twente too but not hearing
[09:30] <mikestir> it was clear on there a minute ago
[09:30] <es5nhc> OK, must have missed then
[09:31] <tweetBot> @daveake: One paper plane prepared for today's invasion of, er, flight over, Europe http://t.co/EPnch2jP3x #raspberrypi #UKHAS
[09:32] <MLow> hella slow ascent
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[09:36] <mikestir> gone very weak on twente now
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[09:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> cw now
[09:39] <MLow> very weak :(
[09:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah here too
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[09:40] <MLow> heard some of those tones lol
[09:40] <MLow> guess i'll have to wait until it's higher up
[09:41] <es5nhc> mi>BV?Eio!awre,040O 5032.9768,01850.8188,3841,@16,4b*3c89
[09:41] <es5nhc> odd twente
[09:41] <es5nhc> off twente I mean
[09:42] <MLow> its really moving up now
[09:42] <det_> still too weak to decode near Wolfsburg
[09:42] <es5nhc> getting stronger on twente
[09:42] <MLow> i hear cw clearly
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[09:44] <MLow> domex22 is 22 baud?
[09:45] <es5nhc> Heard on Twente: $$$$seba6,45,094503,5035.In,,eZ n 5eCj4683,56,918,4b*10ea - QSB quite a bit
[09:45] <es5nhc> *QSB ate
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[09:49] <Tom___> anyone knows the last position of ORION baloon?
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[09:51] <es5nhc> Overheard from Twente: $$$$seba6,49,095048,5038.2489,01855.4509,5813,79,916,4b*3bac
[09:52] <DL5SFI_Steffen1> when is the start in UK? I still have to buy food, but also wants to miss nothing :)
[09:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> DL5SFI_Steffen1: 11:00UTC is estimated
[09:52] <DL5SFI_Steffen1> thanks
[09:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ish :-)
[09:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yes, +/- ish :-)
[09:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> And Good Morning to everyone
[09:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Morning Steve
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[09:53] <GMT> Hi Steve
[09:54] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hope everyone had a good holiday.
[09:55] <GMT> v quiet here ... maybe plan a balloon launch for next year on the 25th!
[09:55] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah, maybe a mass Xmas cluster :-)
[09:55] <daveake> Our launches are 11 ISH which means noon
[09:55] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL Hi Dave
[09:56] <GMT> I half expected Leo to do something like that ... he doesn't seem to announce his launches!
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[09:56] <Steve_G0TDJ> No, in fact, this is the first one I've seen Leo announce for (and it was Anthony anyway :-)
[09:57] <GMT> yes, exactly. Leo has been strangely quiet these last few weeks; now I know why!
[09:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> ;-)
[09:57] Action: Reb-SM3ULC hearing seba pretty ok i Gävle.
[09:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> Hi all :-)
[09:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Tom
[09:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> Reb-SM3ULC: run dl-fldigi please
[09:58] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB-Tom: searching for cable.... at parents place... signal crystal clear in beginning
[09:58] <Steve_G0TDJ> I need another screen.....
[09:59] <ike> SP9UOB-Tom are SP9UOB and SP9UOB 2 different balloons or it's 1 with 2 payloads?
[09:59] <ike> *SP9UOB and seba6
[10:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> one balloon 2 payloads
[10:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi SP9UOB-Tom
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[10:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Heard weak here in OZ
[10:00] <ike> ok, 10x SP9UOB-Tom
[10:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> OZ1SKY_Brian: not so bad as of 500 mW :-)
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[10:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but some other stuff running on same qrg :-(
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[10:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so no decode
[10:02] <x-f> hi, YL3GV
[10:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> some jt6 mode on top of seba6
[10:02] <DJ3AK_Det> gm Tom, I receive the sigs here near Wolfsburg, but no proper decode yet
[10:02] <Steve_G0TDJ> Right, time to sort a late breakfast out - BBS
[10:03] <x-f> $$$$seba6,5tia10 03,5045.4217,01904.3075,74,5O910b*d1d5
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[10:04] <fsphil> oh yes, is the HF one up?
[10:04] <YL3GV> Hi, x-f!
[10:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: yes !
[10:04] Action: SP9UOB-Tom is waiting for recepction reports
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[10:05] <GMT> it's very clear on the Twente SDR, but I'm hearing diddly-squat directly at home
[10:06] <fsphil> what dial frequency and offset?
[10:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> +1500
[10:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 21.150 @1784hz here
[10:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> OZ1SKY_Brian: 21.115 !!!!
[10:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes sorry
[10:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> :-)
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[10:08] <DJ3AK_Det> now first partial decode here.. will get better :-)
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[10:09] <fsphil> don't see anything
[10:10] <x-f> CW now, fsphil
[10:10] <x-f> stopped
[10:10] <fsphil> didn't see that either
[10:10] <bbjunkie> I saw it
[10:10] <bbjunkie> now hear it
[10:10] <fsphil> I'm on 21.115 USB
[10:11] <bbjunkie> ah no that was a JT65 type signal I just heard
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[10:11] <bbjunkie> but heard the cw before
[10:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> ON6LS is receiving
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[10:12] <fsphil> hints of signals around it
[10:13] <fsphil> but I seem to be drowning in noise as usual
[10:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> hera i have S9+20 dB
[10:14] <Chetic> can someone recommend a pressure sensor that isn't MPL3115A2? I can't get that to work with the raspberry pi
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[10:15] <DJ3AK_Det> $$$$seba6,64,1S1Y18,50.0574,e1n0nMe273,9320,P3,904,4b*b0be still vy weak
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[10:17] <DL1SGP> hi folks, is the SP9UOB Balloon in air?
[10:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: http://spacenear.us/tracker/?filter=SP9UOB%3Bseba6
[10:17] <DL1SGP> Tom, that would cause too much data, I am using mobile data abroad :)
[10:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> First green from seba6 :-)
[10:18] <DL1SGP> thanks Brian
[10:18] <DL1SGP> and good morning neighbor lol
[10:18] <SP9UOB-Tom> OZ1SKY_Brian: congrats :-)
[10:18] <fsphil> oooh I'm receiving more numbers and commas than I'd expect out of noise
[10:19] <wd8mnv> did U of Twente crash?
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[10:19] <x-f> seems so :/
[10:19] <bbjunkie> wd8mnv yeah
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[10:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DL1SGP Hi Felix and GM
[10:20] <DL1SGP> My tower should be on the map now if anyone could verify for me I would be entirely grateful
[10:21] <x-f> it is - OZ/DL1SGP
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[10:21] <DL1SGP> great
[10:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes your on felix
[10:21] <OM1ATS> First green from OM
[10:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> WANNAB1 on the map
[10:22] <SP9UOB-Tom> OM1ATS: on HF ?
[10:22] <DL1SGP> Brian I gonna be driving around a bit in about 60-90 minutes, will load mobile rig into car so if you are in your shack and got 2m and/or 70cm equipment running let me know
[10:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Felix
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[10:22] <fsphil> what offset from 21115 are people using?
[10:22] <OM1ATS> Yes on HF 21.1155 ! on 70cm is signal very strong
[10:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DL1SGP ill listen on 145.475 for you
[10:23] <DL1SGP> Yo Steve_G0TDJ
[10:23] <DL1SGP> great I gonna give you a shout
[10:23] <DL1SGP> hearing your balloon here tom
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[10:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 845km is pretty short skip distance for 15meters
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[10:24] <LeoBodnar> mornings!
[10:24] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hey Leo :-)
[10:24] <DL1SGP> Brian, the storm tuned the house antenna for radio reception found the part that blew off when I was hanging the dipole into trees again
[10:25] <Steve_G0TDJ> Best of luck for the flights today LeoBodnar
[10:25] <LeoBodnar> cheers! :D
[10:25] <SP9UOB-Tom> LeoBodnar: morning :-)
[10:25] <nats`> hi LeoBodnar :)
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[10:26] <LeoBodnar> I am relying on Dave/Upu nearspace agency for delivery vehicles
[10:26] <DL1SGP> hello mr Leo 'TheFloat' Bodnar
[10:27] <Steve_G0TDJ> It will be facinating to see it all in action
[10:27] <chrisstubbs> Looks like we will be beating the launch-a-thon record again (i think)
[10:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DL1SGP oh ok, i hope you can fix it. Got another green here
[10:28] <MLow> seems like the websdr is down
[10:28] <bbjunkie> MLow yeah, we broke it
[10:28] <Steve_G0TDJ> LeoBodnar: Is your payload the usual pips-5min interval telemetry?
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[10:29] <DL1SGP> Brian, it was the FM antenna for radio reception, not caring too much about that :) house owner can fix it, they have plenty of stuff to fix anyhow
[10:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol
[10:29] <LeoBodnar> yes but I am launching after Dave/Upu later on
[10:29] <ike> LeoBodnar we want more pictures
[10:30] <Steve_G0TDJ> Oh, I thought it was all together
[10:30] <ike> of your payload and of your balloons
[10:30] <MLow> whats the call for upu's launch?
[10:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol
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[10:30] <GMT> UPUs launch is WANNAB1
[10:30] <Steve_G0TDJ> MLow: Details on: http://ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:superlaunchsat
[10:32] <LeoBodnar> we have three balloons planned with 7 payloads in total
[10:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SP9UOB-Tom any dx reports yet?
[10:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> nope
[10:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> LeoBodnar: I haven't enough RX's or screens :D
[10:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> OZ1SKY_Brian: pls spot it @dx clusters
[10:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> R
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[10:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SP9UOB-Tom OZ1SKY-@ 21115.0 SEBA6-B SP Ballon DOMX22 TX every min 1035 28 Dec
[10:36] <DL1SGP> :)
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[10:40] <thijsjek> hey guys, how is it going in england?
[10:41] <Steve_G0TDJ> thijsjek: Where are you?
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[10:41] <MLow> im not in england but i hear its rainy atm
[10:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> Clear blue sky in the south east here in Crayford
[10:42] <thijsjek> i'm from the netherlands, limburg near maastricht
[10:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> and the South Coast Blue sky
[10:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Geoff-G8DHE
[10:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> Mng Steve
[10:42] <GMT> v clear and sunny in w London, and same clear to the north-west of me
[10:42] <MLow> it was a bad joke :P
[10:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> Well its is the Wind and Rain season @ the moment!
[10:43] <GMT> starting to hear SEBA6 in London
[10:44] <SP9UOB-Tom> cool
[10:44] <MLow> websdr down :( cant decode
[10:44] <Steve_G0TDJ> Is that 21.115MHz GMT ?
[10:44] <MLow> 21,115Khz
[10:45] <Steve_G0TDJ> as in 2.1MHz?
[10:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 21115KHz
[10:45] <ike> MLow I think that there are 1000 users on websdr
[10:45] <es5nhc> Looked at upper level charts... thinking SP9UOB might pass to our south... but UK launches just might get here.
[10:45] Action: cm13g09 is in Chelmsford - also a bright, bright, bright, bright sunshiney day ;)
[10:46] <GMT> Steve ... twenty-one megs
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[10:46] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yes, that's what I thought
[10:46] <Upu_M0UPU> mornikng
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[10:46] <Upu_M0UPU> uff
[10:46] <Upu_M0UPU> Stream working ?
[10:46] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Upu_M0UPU
[10:46] <MLow> ugg you
[10:46] <Steve_G0TDJ> Stream up
[10:47] Action: Steve_G0TDJ waves back at Anthony
[10:47] <Upu_M0UPU> ok cool
[10:47] <nats`> doyou already have wind prediction ?
[10:47] <Upu_M0UPU> we will be setting out shortly
[10:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> Is HABLAB=ATLAS-6 ?
[10:47] <Steve_G0TDJ> Anthony's live stream on: http://www.batc.tv/streams/m0upu
[10:47] <nats`> I want to know if I place the setup
[10:48] <Upu_M0UPU> straight to Poland nats`
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[10:48] <Upu_M0UPU> ok just going back inside to see how daveake's soldering is going
[10:49] <x-f> Geoff-G8DHE, HABLAB is RocketBoy's, ATLAS - jcoxon's
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[10:50] <beingaware> hello :)
[10:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> right so we have XABEN62, HABLAB and ATLAS-6 flying ?
[10:50] <MLow> HABLAB last data was yesterday
[10:50] <jcoxon> Geoff-G8DHE, unforunately we are going to postpone Atlas-6
[10:50] <VK4HIA> G'day Paul
[10:50] <x-f> XABEN = HABLAB
[10:50] <jcoxon> and i think that HABLAB will also be postponed
[10:51] <jcoxon> due to non-balloon related reasons
[10:51] <jcoxon> ping number10
[10:51] <x-f> oh :/
[10:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> So ANU won't be apayload either ?
[10:51] <beingaware> evening
[10:51] Nick change: KipK_away -> KipK
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[10:51] <jcoxon> steve might launch hablab tomorrow, depends a bit
[10:52] <jcoxon> basically my car isn't working so i can't get to the launch site
[10:52] <tweetBot> @G7IGB: UK 434 MHz balloon aims for Poland... http://t.co/uNqRajY7Ss #hamradio #ukhas
[10:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh pain jcoxon
[10:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> Sorry to hear that James
[10:53] <jcoxon> never mind
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[10:53] <jcoxon> we've got enough in the sky anyway
[10:53] <x-f> well, on the brighside, a few launches tomorrow will keep the trackers more happy :)
[10:53] <jcoxon> steve and i have joint permission to launch so he might go ahead tomorrow
[10:53] <jcoxon> but i'll postpone to a later date
[10:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> yes my machine is beginning to have a bit with 6 data streams two video streams etc! Have to get the laptops sharing theload I think ;-)
[10:53] <jcoxon> wow OZ1SKY_Brian is doing well getting seba6
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[10:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon yeah pretty good signal here now
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[10:54] <jcoxon> OZ1SKY_Brian, as its not LOS is that 1 skip?
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[10:55] <Steve_G0TDJ> B-34 on the map
[10:55] <fsphil> $$seba82qay
[10:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon yes a very short 1 skip, just 863km
[10:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=484268121693120&set=pcb.484269431692989&type=1&theater
[10:55] <fsphil> getting the occasional fragment here
[10:55] <jcoxon> fsphil, oh wow thats cool
[10:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=484268195026446&set=pcb.484269431692989&type=1&theater
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[10:55] <wd8mnv> seba 6 going for float?
[10:55] <jcoxon> finally a HF flight so we can test dl-fldigi/spacenear.us
[10:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> wd8mnv: yes, thats the plan
[10:56] <fsphil> indeed!
[10:56] <jcoxon> that was originally what we designed the system for
[10:56] <jcoxon> not all this UHF stuff
[10:56] <wd8mnv> kewl : )
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[10:56] <Steve_G0TDJ> Morning Andy :-)
[10:56] <nats`> ok Upu :)
[10:56] <fsphil> I can't even see the signal
[10:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> and there is HF payload: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1518984_484268408359758_428691148_o.jpg
[10:56] <fsphil> I've no idea if I'm tuned correctly
[10:56] <Andrew_M6GTG> Morning Steve
[10:56] <Andrew_M6GTG> morning all
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[10:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> all photos:
[10:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> https://plus.google.com/photos/108111435264693957520/albums/5962384967562756657?partnerid=gplp0
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[10:59] <fsphil> cw just now?
[10:59] <x-f> SP9UOB-Tom, you launched a Vaisala radiosonde with it?
[10:59] <fsphil> and is the CW in the centre of the domex frequency range?
[11:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: no, Andrew just take a picture
[11:00] <jcoxon> that polystyrene box is great
[11:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: there are some funny thinks in my carboot
[11:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SP9UOB-Tom nice pic tom.
[11:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: taken from swissvoice cellphone
[11:00] <G4BWR_Mark> Am hearing seba6 just cant decode best so far: $$$$seba6,9FH059F7b5 0.e SI945.08rr,16332,867,4f poFW
[11:01] <fsphil> pink
[11:01] <G4BWR_Mark> $$$$seba6,9B,vQ1HO5052.51W8t03X42V1247,165X4,5P,881,4f*772D
[11:01] <fsphil> ooh nice
[11:01] <es5nhc> Hmm... not thinking anymore that SEBA6 will reach LOS here... However, UK launches... might...
[11:01] <fsphil> what offset on the waterfall G4BWR_Mark?
[11:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> G4BWR_Mark: next time it'll be domex4 :-)
[11:02] <fsphil> or thor? :)
[11:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> or thor
[11:03] <fsphil> the FEC will make it worth it
[11:03] <Reb-SM3ULC> Have no sign of seba6 now. :/
[11:03] <G4MYS_Andy> I can see very clear red spots from the Polish ballon but no decodes any thoughts? Andy
[11:03] <eroomde> good morning campers!
[11:03] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Ed
[11:04] <x-f> es5nhc, it's only halfway up, we still have a chance
[11:04] <jcoxon> anyone got number10's contact numbers?
[11:04] <craag> Afternoon all
[11:04] <fsphil> ah the sun came out and the interference increased. it must be my solar inverter
[11:04] <eroomde> merry christmas and HNY to you Steve_G0TDJ. Hope you survived it all
[11:04] <cm13g09> morning craag
[11:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> You need a bucket of black paint then fsphil
[11:04] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cheers Ed, and you. Yes, very quiet over here: Just how I like it ;-)
[11:04] <fsphil> hah
[11:04] <craag> afternoon cm13g09
[11:05] <x-f> es5nhc, i heard SEBA-5 when it was in the SE corner of Belarus
[11:05] Action: fsphil is having a lazy christmas
[11:05] <cm13g09> craag: I've got chrisstubbs coming over to help with my tracker setup :P
[11:05] <fsphil> Belarus -- swallower of HAB payloads
[11:05] <eroomde> maybe it thinks they're carrying news from the outside
[11:05] <es5nhc> And I heard ORION when it was in LY
[11:05] <GMT> faint Dom sigs from SEBA6
[11:06] <cm13g09> in fact.... Chris has just arrived :)
[11:06] <Steve_G0TDJ> SLEET & SNOW On the map (LOL)
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[11:06] <craag> awesome, hopefully he'll get you sorted out!
[11:07] <ike> 7 users @ 21115khz websdr
[11:07] <G4MYS_Andy> I am assuming not enough signal?
[11:07] <g0azs> What is the collective noun for a group of balloons?
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[11:07] <eroomde> link to batc feed?
[11:07] <Steve_G0TDJ> g0azs: A cluster?
[11:07] <tweetBot> @jamescoxon: Atlas6 and XABEN62(Hablab) postponed, maybe HABLAB on Sunday #ukhas
[11:07] <Steve_G0TDJ> eroomde: http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?ch=5&id=768
[11:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> I guess there keeping Cloudy under cover in case the weather gets any ideas!
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[11:08] <eroomde> g0azs: a QRM of balloons?
[11:08] <jcoxon> and armada
[11:08] <g0azs> An "inflation" perhaps?
[11:08] <jcoxon> an*
[11:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> A 'Gas' of balloons
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[11:08] <eroomde> i think cluster is probably for multiple balloons pulling one flight-train
[11:08] <eroomde> probably
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[11:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> Well that describes Dave/Anthony/Leo's launch
[11:09] <jcoxon> eroomde, think we'll made 200?
[11:09] <jcoxon> make*
[11:09] <eroomde> in the channel?
[11:09] <eroomde> gosh
[11:09] <jcoxon> yup
[11:09] <eroomde> would that be a first?
[11:09] <jcoxon> think so
[11:09] <eroomde> wow
[11:09] <dunk__> hi. is their a streemimg channel
[11:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> 200 in here James?
[11:10] <eroomde> we can dance around a fire reminiscing about what we'ce created
[11:10] <jcoxon> indeed
[11:10] <jcoxon> or sit in smoking jackets in leather chairs and reminisce
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[11:10] <jcoxon> oh
[11:10] <eroomde> i'd like a smiking jacket
[11:10] <eroomde> a valvet one
[11:11] <jcoxon> burst?
[11:11] <G4BWR_Mark> my offset is 1600 : signal is in noise can just read CWID but faded out as copying it
[11:11] <eroomde> and those bottles of spirits hanging from the ceiling from string around the neck such that they're at hand height
[11:11] <jcoxon> oh no
[11:11] <ike> websdr -> $$$$seba6,103,111109,000.0,000.0,0,0,875,4c*52be
[11:11] <eroomde> i think i do own a velvet jacket actually
[11:11] <G4BWR_Mark> seba6,103,111109,000.0,000.0,0,rn,U55,4|F2
[11:11] <eroomde> it was a phase when i was 18
[11:11] <jcoxon> oh dear is that a sirf3 gps?
[11:12] <jcoxon> i think its hit 18km
[11:12] <eroomde> walking around the KR in loafers
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[11:12] <jcoxon> thats what i'm going to do today :-p
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[11:12] <eroomde> walking around the KR?
[11:12] <jcoxon> hehe i'm not
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[11:12] <eroomde> it'll presumably be heaving with people not wanting to be january shoppers
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[11:13] <eroomde> because they don;t see themselves as that sort of person
[11:13] <eroomde> but oh look, such bargains
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[11:13] <eroomde> i have had a personality transplant somewhere between age 18 and now
[11:13] <es5nhc> I like the forecasts for UK launches
[11:13] <ike> bad RX $$#jiregriaa6,104,111309,5053.9103
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[11:13] <eroomde> es5nhc: should hopefully keep you busy
[11:13] <G4BWR_Mark> $$$$seba6,104,111309,5053.9103,S3958.5762,18674,6n,8B2,44cb
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[11:14] <number10> hi james was putting antenna up
[11:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> G4BWR_Mark: direct or via sdr ?
[11:14] <number10> got email jcoxon - np
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[11:15] <G4BWR_Mark> Direct: using funcube 2 : ant is a windom
[11:16] <ike> bad RX $$$$sen6,106,111539,000.0,000.0,0,0,875,4c*9b6b
[11:16] <jcoxon> number10, cool
[11:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> gps got cold i think
[11:17] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, is it a ublox?
[11:17] <Upu_M0UPU> we are running a little late
[11:17] <Upu_M0UPU> the Pi is refusing to take pics
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[11:17] <daveake> Fixed
[11:18] Nick change: Zed -> Guest83424
[11:18] <daveake> The little connector came lose when it was glued in
[11:18] <ike> good RX $$$$sen6,106,111539,000.0,000.0,0,0,875,4c*9b6b
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[11:18] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: no lassen trimble
[11:18] <Steve_G0TDJ> daveake: Upu_M0UPU Where should we look for the SSDV images?
[11:18] <Upu_M0UPU> ok cool we'll be heading out shortly then
[11:18] <eroomde> jcoxon: 196
[11:18] <daveake> Just swapping to another camera, this time stuck down with pink tape
[11:18] <ike> my bad
[11:18] <Upu_M0UPU> ssdv.habhub.org
[11:18] <daveake> http://ssdv.habhub.org/CLOUDY
[11:18] <ike> good RX $$seba6,107,111740,5053.6482,02003.4576,19460,78,862,4f*ae6a
[11:18] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cheers
[11:18] <SP9UOB-Tom> for hf, for vhf there is ublox
[11:18] <daveake> Upu_M0UPU, Where's the pink tape?
[11:19] <Upu_M0UPU> bringing it now
[11:19] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, old style gps :-)
[11:19] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: :-)
[11:19] <SP9UOB-Tom> but proven to work in action
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[11:20] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, oh yes
[11:20] <jcoxon> i've still got one
[11:20] <jcoxon> just takes a long time to get lock!
[11:20] <ike> bad RX $$seba6,107,111740,5053.6482,02003.4576,19460,78,862,4f*ae6a
[11:20] <ike> $$seba6,109,000S0,0.0Aoir00.0,0,0,875o8ta14
[11:20] <SP9UOB-Tom> its really cold out there
[11:21] <ike> sorry I don't know what is happaning with my copy/paste skills
[11:21] <jcoxon> looks like ON6LS got a string
[11:21] <ike> it looks like GPS is loosing data
[11:21] <ike> it's like in some kind of power save mode
[11:22] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB-Tom: i heard it very nicely, have to make a better cable for my dad's ts850
[11:22] <fsphil> noise got worse here
[11:22] <ike> $$seba6,110,112211,5053.0301,02008.6386,20212,72,862,0b*71c3
[11:23] <jcoxon> who is 123test on spacenear.us
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[11:24] <x-f> jcoxon, mattbrejza's java decoder's default callsign, it needs to be restarted to notice the callsign change
[11:24] <jcoxon> oh i see
[11:24] <jcoxon> sitting in libya
[11:24] Nick change: KipK -> KipK_away
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[11:25] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, thats an unhappy GPS :-s
[11:26] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: it has really cold now
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[11:27] <Andrew_M6GTG> have fun guys going to miss these launches.. :-(
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[11:27] <es5nhc> wth
[11:27] <fsphil> 65km eh
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[11:27] <jcoxon> record!
[11:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> ;-)
[11:27] <Upu_M0UPU> lol
[11:27] <es5nhc> lolol
[11:28] <Upu_M0UPU> ok we are heading to launch site in 5
[11:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> also cutting his power wont help :-)
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[11:29] <cm13g09> sorry about CHEAPO.....
[11:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> not helping i mean
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[11:29] <ike> can you tell me QTH of https://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=university+of+twente&fb=1&hq=University+of+Twente&cid=8722122100609081487&ei=dLW-UuiKPOfgygOhi4DoCA&ved=0CI8GEPwS
[11:30] <ike> N52.241059 E6.852397
[11:31] <jcoxon> 52.2408, 6.8523
[11:32] <ike> it looks like JO32
[11:33] <G4BWR_Mark> $$$$seba6,117,113225,'055.7354,020.9184,1020tU 875,0b*4882
[11:34] <G8APZ> Try this for finding lat/long and QTH locator > http://www.beaconspot.eu/locator.php
[11:34] <fsphil> has it burst?
[11:34] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: no just freezing
[11:34] <fsphil> or just the gps playing silly buggers
[11:34] <Upu_M0UPU> ok moving out
[11:35] <Steve_G0TDJ> Camera view skewed Anthony
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[11:35] <Upu_M0UPU> yeah need to reconnect on 3g
[11:35] <Steve_G0TDJ> Looking down currently
[11:35] <Steve_G0TDJ> OK
[11:35] <Upu_M0UPU> daves just jump starting his car
[11:35] <Upu_M0UPU> lol
[11:35] <Steve_G0TDJ> :D
[11:35] <fsphil> uh-oh!
[11:35] <Upu_M0UPU> not NASA here
[11:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Is Leo with you ?
[11:36] <eroomde> i rememberhelping dave to jump=start his car at the last launch i did
[11:36] <eroomde> with him
[11:36] <Upu_M0UPU> yes
[11:36] <fsphil> no, NASA drop payloads on cars :)
[11:36] <Upu_M0UPU> red bmw
[11:36] <Steve_G0TDJ> That's better ;-)
[11:36] <dunk__> looks like they are driving now
[11:37] <DL5SFI_Steffen> :O
[11:37] <Steve_G0TDJ> Video stream interrupted
[11:37] <fsphil> crashed? (the stream that is)
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[11:37] <Steve_G0TDJ> Could be Phil but Anthony did mention reconnecting
[11:37] <DL5SFI_Steffen> 8-)incognito
[11:38] <gonzo_p> no chase car tracking yoe though, assume they run it on the pc doing the rx
[11:38] <cuddykid> looked like the camera fell off before the stream cut
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[11:40] <Neil_M0CJM> Morningnall to this super Saturday!
[11:40] <cuddykid> wonder if I'll get a call from police today as their two week reminder will trigger I'm sure
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[11:41] <ike> cuddykid why they will call you?
[11:42] <cuddykid> ike: payload got stolen two weeks ago
[11:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> seba6 at 55000m :-)
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[11:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> MPL has reached his minimal pressure
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[11:46] <raspTortoise> back later. I'm off down the pub for breakfast!
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[11:46] <eroomde> breakfast in a pub
[11:46] <eroomde> what an idea
[11:46] <eroomde> people used to launch on saturday mornings from churchill as a matter of policy, just for the churchill brunch
[11:46] <jcoxon> hehe
[11:47] <Steve_G0TDJ> I could massacre a fry-up!
[11:47] <jcoxon> indeed
[11:47] <eroomde> you could grt a roughly hemispherical mound of fried stuff, for about £3
[11:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> 157 km ph
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[11:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> how meny sep. ballons will be launched from the UK?
[11:49] <fsphil> now I'm hungry
[11:49] Nick change: OH7HJ-1 -> OH7HJ
[11:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> First SSDV image building on: http://ssdv.habhub.org/CLOUDY
[11:50] <Upu_M0UPU> stream up ?
[11:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yep, cheers
[11:50] <es5nhc> What's with the wacky heights on SEBA6. Bad decodes on HF?
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[11:51] <x-f> OZ1SKY_Brian, three, it think
[11:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> Upu_M0UPU: We have your stream, not Dave's SSDV images have started
[11:51] <RichardAKJ> When does AkerCam strt streaming?
[11:51] <WillDuckworth> hey craag - have you got that ukhas all-in-one page setup?
[11:51] <fsphil> Dave 3 Arena
[11:51] <fsphil> first person HAB simulator
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[11:52] <x-f> es5nhc, its GPS doesn't like cold and power cuts
[11:52] <es5nhc> But they are not showing up in SP9UOB - does it have some QC?
[11:53] <craag> WillDuckworth: it should bw at yhe same url, im out and on myphone so cabt get it atm
[11:53] <craag> *cant
[11:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> es5nhc its two sep. payloads
[11:53] <x-f> it's a seperate payload, another box
[11:53] <es5nhc> kthx
[11:53] <fsphil> I've lost all my old bookmarks
[11:53] <fsphil> forgot to copy them :)
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[11:54] <fsphil> first image from CLOUDY living up to its name
[11:54] <craag> ah, and itll have the wrong stream urls, cant do anything, sorry.
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[11:55] <Willdude123> Someone just let off an emergency ring on GB3FN
[11:55] <Willdude123> I'm not sure what to do, if anything/
[11:56] <ike> http://ssdv.habhub.org/CLOUDY
[11:56] <WillDuckworth> http://insecure.thecraag.com/ukhastv.html
[11:56] <jcoxon> HABLAB (XABEN) is back on
[11:57] <fsphil> thanks WillDuckworth
[11:57] <ike> who is P292 OPA?
[11:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> Dave's stream is up
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[11:58] <Steve_G0TDJ> An amazing delay between the two streams
[11:58] <G4BWR_Mark> Fraid am going to have to go out, will leave rig on wabbab and hope for the best. last rcvd $$$$seba6,134,115810,50optt 867b02115.325Y,2782Sb208w868,0j*71
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[11:59] <GMT> weather sonde from Hurstmonceaux up on 404.8 mhz
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[12:00] <es5nhc> GMT, 12Z sounding?'
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[12:00] <daveake_> ah dunno what was up with that
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[12:01] <fsphil> http://zelda.sanslogic.co.uk/ukhastv.html
[12:01] <fsphil> nicked craag 's html , updated streams
[12:01] <es5nhc> Go home Seba6, you're drunk
[12:01] <cuddykid> nice
[12:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> LOL
[12:02] <fsphil> this isn't davecam then?
[12:03] <fsphil> oh it is
[12:03] <fsphil> just very laggy
[12:03] <daveake_> ping me if either stream stops
[12:03] <Steve_G0TDJ> ROger
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[12:03] <daveake_> not enough bandwidth to watch too really :)
[12:04] <daveake_> it is
[12:04] <Steve_G0TDJ> daveake_: Your cam lags way behind Anthony's - At least 30secs
[12:04] <cuddykid> quick demo of upcoming predictor screen whilst waiting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTDUYZQcuh8&feature=youtu.be
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[12:09] <SpeedEvil> nice
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[12:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> 260 km/h
[12:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> quite fast
[12:10] <eroomde> jcoxon: 199!
[12:10] <GMT> are Leo's payloads on the same balloon as Wannab1 etc?
[12:11] <fsphil> dave's camera needs to be angled up a bit
[12:11] <x-f> GMT, they will be on two seperate balloons
[12:12] <GMT> okay, thanks; clear skies here, might even be able to see them
[12:13] <x-f> nice
[12:13] <iain_g4sgx> getting green seba 6 ok on 15M
[12:13] <x-f> what are you counting, eroomde?
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[12:13] <eroomde> x-f: number of people in the channel
[12:13] <eroomde> 200 would be a record
[12:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> it looks like Lassen trimble needs longer time to fix above 18 km
[12:14] <eroomde> it needs longer for everything in general SP9UOB-Tom :)
[12:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> eroomde: ;-)
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[12:14] <fsphil> I don't see any bacon
[12:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> eroomde: i have 100 of them :-)
[12:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> they was free
[12:15] <fsphil> eroomde: I think it's been above 200 before
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[12:15] <jcoxon> 200!
[12:15] <eroomde> hurrah!
[12:16] <jcoxon> next stop 300!
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[12:16] <eroomde> jcoxon: we can have a private toast to that on the 31st
[12:16] <jcoxon> yes we can
[12:16] <jcoxon> i'm looking forward to 31st
[12:16] <eroomde> me too
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[12:17] <eroomde> i have a feeling this'll be a good year
[12:17] <Steve_G0TDJ> Looking forward to a bumper conference next time!
[12:17] <daveake_> I need to move somewhere with decent 3G :p
[12:17] <eroomde> yep!
[12:17] <eroomde> i did enjoy this year's conf a lot
[12:17] <fsphil> you need to stand on the car daveake_
[12:18] <Steve_G0TDJ> Me too. Wish I@d said Hi to more people!
[12:18] <eroomde> 2014!
[12:18] <daveake_> Actually the magmount aerial plug came out of the mifi
[12:18] <daveake_> hab-o-cam on or off?
[12:18] <jcoxon> i think i'll organise a dinner for after the conference
[12:18] <fsphil> both streams are gone
[12:18] <daveake_> ok ta
[12:18] <eroomde> if we could increment anything over last year, i'd say it might be trying to book somewhere in advance for an after-conf meal
[12:18] <jcoxon> hehe
[12:18] <Steve_G0TDJ> THat's a great idea Ed
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[12:19] <eroomde> banquet might be a strong term, but that kinda thing
[12:19] <x-f> i enjoyed the conference as well, was so cool to meet you all, thanks for organising it
[12:19] <Steve_G0TDJ> x-f YOu were there too?
[12:19] <fsphil> he was
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[12:20] <fsphil> yea I didn't properly say Hi to most people
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[12:20] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'm gonna wear a big badge nest time 'Hi, I'm Steve G0TDJ - Say Hello'
[12:20] <eroomde> it's v difficult to get round to everyone, or know from a face that it's somewhere you talk to regularly online
[12:20] <fsphil> I'm also bad at putting names to faces, especially if I only meet them a few times a year
[12:21] <eroomde> also babs was so generous with drinks afterwards that i lost the ability to move around and speak by about 6pm
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[12:21] <fsphil> lol
[12:21] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL
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[12:22] <db_g6gzh_> hopefully next year I won't have a train to catch
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[12:23] <WillDuckworth> is that leo looking on wondering what all the faff is about?
[12:23] <Willdude123> Hopefully I'll be able to go to the confer- actually there's no chance
[12:23] <x-f> yep :)
[12:23] <fsphil> dave's feet cam
[12:24] <eroomde> Willdude123: keep asking politely
[12:24] <Herman-PB0AHX> GA every boddy
[12:24] <eroomde> tis all you can do
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[12:24] <eroomde> greetings Herman-PB0AHX
[12:24] <Herman-PB0AHX> hi eroomde
[12:24] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, its good to see UK stations getting seba9
[12:25] <jcoxon> oops 6 - encouraging for later on in the flight
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[12:25] <DL7AD> gm
[12:25] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: yes, when it'll be over asia there is a chance to get
[12:25] <jcoxon> its time it started floating!
[12:26] <DL5SFI_Steffen> 7ad: Moin
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[12:26] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: sunrise will be in an hour
[12:26] <eroomde> well, happy superlaunch saturday all
[12:27] <db_g6gzh_> I'm ready to track - http://album.dbrooke.me.uk/tn/P1010658.JPG.html
[12:27] <GMT> getting faint sigs from SEBA on 21 megs, not able to decode yet
[12:27] <eroomde> it's an excellent way to end what's been a very good year for HAB in europe
[12:27] <Steve_G0TDJ> Absolutely Ed
[12:27] <jcoxon> indeed
[12:27] <jcoxon> who would have thought 7 day floater for a pico
[12:28] <G8APZ> anyone have info on CHEAPO shown on HAB map?
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[12:28] <Steve_G0TDJ> G8APZ: That was a test IIRC
[12:28] <HA7018SWL> Hi all!
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[12:28] <Steve_G0TDJ> Looks like Dave's filling the balloon
[12:28] <G8APZ> Steve_G0TDJ OK thanks... no point in listening for it then!
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[12:29] <Steve_G0TDJ> No, it's not going up today as fa as I know
[12:29] <DL1SGP> Steve_G0TDJ, time to prepare your cuppa?
[12:29] <GMT> anyone else listening for SEBA on 21 megs?
[12:29] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL Too late Felix ;-)
[12:29] <DL1SGP> OZ1SKY_Brian is listening for it GMT
[12:29] <iain_g4sgx> Yep, had a decode a while ago, some QSB
[12:29] <jcoxon> iain_g4sgx, what range did that give you?
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[12:30] <GMT> what was that repeating signal about a minute ago?
[12:30] <Steve_G0TDJ> Upu_M0UPU: Stream is down
[12:30] <x-f> SP9UOB-Tom, is it spot on 437.600?
[12:30] <iain_g4sgx> Not sure i took note: You hear the RSID thenm CW then Dominex
[12:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: little bit lower than 437.600
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[12:31] <x-f> thanks, watching the waterfall
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[12:31] <jcoxon> 300km/h for SP9UOB
[12:32] <jcoxon> well it was 299
[12:32] <x-f> it was 317 some minutes ago
[12:32] <x-f> http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/dcfafd51a458b637a94d6e71d0d83faa#g/altitude,speed
[12:33] <iain_g4sgx> <GMT> seems to have faded a little now now but was centered on 1750
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[12:36] <HA7018SWL> Still receiving SP9UOB from 487km, with omni-directional ant. But with ~50% CRC error
[12:36] <HA7018SWL> @70cm
[12:36] <G4MYS_Andy> better get on with it... its raining in Southampton!
[12:37] <DL5SFI_Steffen> the balloon has a visa to Russia? ;-)
[12:37] <x-f> daveake_, Upu, stream has stopped
[12:37] <es5nhc> LOL at the forecast on spacenear.us
[12:37] <kpiman> any idea why i get a bearing and distance some days and not others?
[12:38] <jcoxon> kpiman, are all your details inputed correctly?
[12:38] <jcoxon> inc. altitude?
[12:39] <fsphil> you also need to select the payload from the list and press autoconfigure
[12:39] <fsphil> so dl-fldigi can load the data it needs to decode the coordinates
[12:39] <kpiman> yes, they have been set for a long time.
[12:40] <kpiman> will it only work when useing auto config?
[12:40] <fsphil> dave appears to be wrestling with a hosepipe
[12:41] <fsphil> yea I'm pretty sure you need to do the autoconfig to get the bearing and distance working
[12:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> daveake_: Both video streams frozen now
[12:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> not hearing seba6 anymore
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[12:43] <Upu3G> lost 3g sorry
[12:43] <Upu3G> filling but wind up
[12:43] <jcoxon> SP9UOB has entered the ukraine
[12:43] <Steve_G0TDJ> No worries, as long as you know Upu3G
[12:43] <Upu3G> causing issues
[12:44] <Steve_G0TDJ> I think we need to look at a dedicated team for video on these large launches.
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[12:45] <Upu3G> 5 mins
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[12:46] <kpiman> used autoconfig for seba6 but defaults to RTTY, have to change to Domino manually
[12:46] <kpiman> just had another green for seba6 but no distance
[12:47] <x-f> SP9UOB-Tom, does it transmit continous RTTY? i'm seeing something with the right spacing, but not decoding it
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[12:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: yes
[12:47] <x-f> cool!
[12:47] <es5nhc> Any word from UK??
[12:48] <jcoxon> kpiman, oh i see your call in the list - good work
[12:49] <G8JNJ> Getting about 25% good decodes in UK on 21.115 $$seba6,166,124605,5052.3282,02402.0954,6852,297,892,0b*eae6
[12:49] <Steve_G0TDJ> daveake: Perhaps you could angle your cam upward after launch?
[12:49] <jcoxon> good work G8JNJ
[12:50] <x-f> lots of spectators there
[12:50] <kpiman> jcoxon, it's lucky, using g5rv which is partly tangled in apple tree.
[12:50] <iain_g4sgx> Nice strong green from Seba6
[12:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> Looks like they're walking to launch pos.
[12:50] <GMT> better than me 'JNJ, not even hearing the signal here now
[12:50] <G8JNJ> It's a very strong signal (considering) but doesn't always decode cleanly
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[12:50] <iain_g4sgx> But all zeros? $$seba6,169,125011,000.0,000.0,0,0,894,08*4f3a
[12:51] <G8JNJ> Using G5RV sizeed doublet with auto tuner
[12:51] <jcoxon> iain_g4sgx, its losing lock, so reverting to 0
[12:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> iain_g4sgx: shift ;-) happens (especially on rtty ;-)
[12:51] <craag_web> Afternoon Martin G8JNJ
[12:51] <G8JNJ> Hi Phil
[12:52] <craag_web> Just got back from the beach... what's going on with the uk armada?
[12:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> 2E0KPI
[12:52] <jcoxon> hasn't set sail yet
[12:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> :-)
[12:52] <craag_web> Ah ok, technical issues?
[12:52] <fsphil> streams appear to have gone again
[12:52] <jcoxon> ish time
[12:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> 323 km/h
[12:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> AWESOME
[12:53] <es5nhc> Nice
[12:53] <TeBe> Poles are flying high and fast ;-)
[12:53] <raz_> Someone put 10p in the meter
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[12:54] <Upu3G> up
[12:54] <kpiman> how do i change my nick to 2E0KPI?
[12:54] <jcoxon> on here?
[12:54] <HA7018SWL> What is that "saw" pattern from seba6? GPS failure?
[12:54] <jcoxon> /nicj 2E0KPI
[12:54] <jcoxon> i mean /nick
[12:55] <Steve_G0TDJ> Dave's video running
[12:55] <jcoxon> HA7018SWL, yeah its being turned off and on to save power and takes longer to recover
[12:55] <jcoxon> so it gives a bad position
[12:55] <fsphil> briefly
[12:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> There off
[12:55] <cm13g09> can somebody dispose of CHEAPO? it was chrisstubbs and I testing ;)
[12:56] <HA7018SWL> Thx, but it gets bigger every power cycle... interesting
[12:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> especially at over 300 km/h
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[12:56] <es5nhc> How do you encode pressure on SP9UOB? There is no way the pressure is 2548 mb!!
[12:56] <es5nhc> mb = hPa
[12:56] <jcoxon> cm13g09, gone
[12:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> es5nhc: sensor has reached it's limit some time ago
[12:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> and now its reporting negative
[12:57] <es5nhc> Ah OK... so at little pressure it reports anomalously high values?
[12:57] <x-f> callsign decoded correctly, signal is improving
[12:57] <es5nhc> high as in air pressure :)
[12:58] <jcoxon> 347km/h for SP9UOB
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[12:58] <es5nhc> Q: Is the 70 cm transponder similarly once a minute or continuous? For SP9UOB
[12:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> 355
[12:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> !
[12:58] <es5nhc> Nice jet!
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[13:00] <x-f> es5nhc, continous
[13:00] <es5nhc> Aha... BTW, WANNAB1 is climbing
[13:00] <jcoxon> 364km/h
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[13:00] <craag_web> cm13g09: Got it working?
[13:00] <x-f> looks like it is floating
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[13:01] <jcoxon> been a while since hte last seba6 dat apoint
[13:01] <Willdude123> http://i.imgur.com/rcUtFl6.png why isn't this activating the repeater I set it to? Can anyone see anything wrong with that?
[13:03] <fsphil> spacenear is already struggling on my quad core desktop :)
[13:03] <es5nhc> wow... what a speed
[13:03] <jcoxon> yes we might need DanielRichman to filter the map
[13:03] <mikestir> Willdude123: try wide rather than narrow - 25 kHz channels on 70cm
[13:04] <jcoxon> okay so its just 0s on seba6 hence why its not updating
[13:04] <jcoxon> poor old lassen gps
[13:04] <DanielRichman> seba6 has an interesting path :P Are you sure it has enough trackers?
[13:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: foo fas for it
[13:04] <bbjunkie> back in a bit
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[13:04] <cm13g09> craag_web: we're about to find out :P
[13:05] <DanielRichman> snus loads pretty quickly for me fsphil - switch to chrome already
[13:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> too fast
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[13:05] <DanielRichman> there are 2k positions on snus atm - that's fairly low; historically we've needed a fair bit more than that to cause problems. However I am happy to go prune some if you want...
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[13:06] <craag_web> fsphil: http://habmap.philcrump.co.uk/ ;)
[13:06] <Neil_M0CJM> SNOW nice and loud on 434.410
[13:06] <Upu3G> struggling locally
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[13:07] <Steve_G0TDJ> Neil_M0CJM: Is SNOW on freq?
[13:08] <Neil_M0CJM> 434.410.65 for me Steve
[13:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cheers
[13:08] <Neil_M0CJM> can bearly hear Wannab1
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[13:08] <Neil_M0CJM> barely
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[13:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> Nothing from any of them in Crayford yet
[13:08] <Neil_M0CJM> SNOW just dropped to almost inaudible
[13:09] <GMT> I can see the SNOW signal, not enough to decode
[13:09] <Willdude123> Hey Neil_M0CJM. How's live on the other side of the world? :P
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[13:10] <Neil_M0CJM> Hi Will, lol the other sid eof Oakley Lane you mean..lol All Ok here buddy, you?
[13:10] <es5nhc> SP9UOB 38,3 km
[13:10] <mattbrejza> what payload needs listeners?
[13:10] <Steve_G0TDJ> CLOUDY image 17 looking good
[13:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> Snow and Cloudy but no sign of Wannab1
[13:10] <Willdude123> Yeah not bad. Got my license
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[13:10] <Willdude123> M6KIK
[13:10] <fsphil> DanielRichman: chrome? euuuuu
[13:10] <Neil_M0CJM> cool, we will have to talk on 2m soon then
[13:10] <DanielRichman> chromium, whatever
[13:10] <fsphil> lol
[13:10] <Willdude123> Yeah. I got onto GB3FN
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[13:11] <Willdude123> I am having some problems with the memory on this tyt th-uvf9
[13:11] <Willdude123> Great radio
[13:11] <Willdude123> Awful software
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[13:11] <Neil_M0CJM> lol who makes that will?
[13:11] <Willdude123> TYT
[13:12] <Neil_M0CJM> ok, well once you up and running we cam chat, usually got s20 on in here
[13:12] <Neil_M0CJM> Will, you ever go round the One Stop by me?
[13:12] <Willdude123> Yup
[13:12] <MLow> -152.9m/s ....
[13:12] <Willdude123> Walked round the other day
[13:12] <Neil_M0CJM> If I am not on here I am in there chatting up Stephanie :-)
[13:13] <Willdude123> heh
[13:13] <MLow> well it looks like the rtty is working ok
[13:13] <Willdude123> Any luck? :P
[13:13] <MLow> whats up with the gps from the domex?
[13:13] <Neil_M0CJM> I am monitoring Cloudy SSDV now
[13:14] <Neil_M0CJM> Will, well, need to keep trying
[13:14] <es5nhc> x-f, any indication of SP9UOB?
[13:14] <Willdude123> Heh
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[13:15] <Upu3G> wannab signal isn't good
[13:15] <x-f> es5nhc, i had a few partial decodes but veeeery faint signal now, it is speeding away
[13:15] <Neil_M0CJM> I have given up on Wannab, far to low audio here
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[13:16] <G4MYS_Andy> are others having problems decoding are are the callsign not being updated? got this:SNOG,1494,13:15:08,51.57693,xVr654,6,1511,t,B2E9
[13:16] <Willdude123> Neil_M0CJM: I'm no expert but if you have to try it's probably not worth it. Do you go there just to chat her up or do you actually buy anything
[13:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> Cloudy & Snow are good signals should decode shortly, but no sign of Wannab1
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[13:17] <G0HDI> Can hear Cloudy, broken waterfall trace. no decodes yet
[13:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> FCD2 is really good - 580 km and still decoding :-)
[13:17] <MLow> Decoded image packet. Callsign: CLOUDY, Image ID: 12, Resolution: 320x240, Packet ID: 19
[13:17] <MLow> am i doing it right?
[13:18] <daveake> Need moar balloon colours on SU :p
[13:18] <cm13g09> daveake: lol
[13:18] <fsphil> MLow: yep
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[13:19] <MLow> what did i decode? cause it looks like gibberish
[13:19] <fsphil> image data MLow
[13:19] <fsphil> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[13:19] <GMT> sig from SNOW very fady
[13:19] <fsphil> MLow: also, in dl-fldigi click View -> SSDV RX
[13:19] <daveake> That's cos the aerial is horizontal
[13:19] <Neil_M0CJM> Will, well i go in there to buy something but usually look out for her. Thing is I am old enough to b her dad :-)
[13:20] <GMT> and as soon as I send that I get a green decode!
[13:20] <daveake> Check the latest SSDV image :)
[13:20] <Steve_G0TDJ> Watching with interest daveake
[13:20] <es5nhc> lolwut
[13:20] <GMT> image 19!
[13:21] <GMT> Bang! suddenly SNOW is v strong and good decodes
[13:21] <Neil_M0CJM> Lol nice union jack there!!
[13:21] <Willdude123> Okay
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[13:21] <es5nhc> Did camera die or you are sending intermittently other images on purpose?
[13:21] <Willdude123> Neil_M0CJM: Mind just seeing how well my signals get across on the other side of oakley?
[13:21] <Neil_M0CJM> Willdude123 You know the one I mean?? :-)
[13:22] <Willdude123> No :)
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[13:22] <Neil_M0CJM> Willdude123 S20 on here
[13:22] <daveake> Slight cockup that's not an image from this flight
[13:22] <daveake> oops
[13:22] <Willdude123> S20?
[13:22] <fsphil> haha
[13:22] <jcoxon> daveake, !
[13:22] <Willdude123> That a simplex channel?
[13:22] <Neil_M0CJM> Willdude123 145.500 Fm
[13:22] <Neil_M0CJM> Its the 2m calling channel
[13:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> At least it proves the concept daveake
[13:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2013_Flights/Cloudy_20131228/index.php?ind=1
[13:22] <daveake> Well the plan was to overlay the correct flag when entering each new country
[13:22] <daveake> however
[13:22] <beingaware> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTc0WDc1MQ==/z/vS8AAOxy2HFSUdUa/$(KGrHqR,!lQFJ!WSu!PZBSUdU,,CNw~~60_57.JPG
[13:22] <andre65holland> picture from ISS ?
[13:22] <Willdude123> Neil_M0CJM:
[13:23] <daveake> looks like I messed up slightly
[13:23] <Willdude123> OK
[13:23] <daveake> next pic will be fine
[13:23] <GMT> that's the view down to Devon and Cornwall
[13:23] <Willdude123> M0JCU: will call CQ
[13:23] <fsphil> at least yours is sending the prepared image
[13:23] <Neil_M0CJM> daveake I thought the balloon had just done a massive jump of 10km or something :-)
[13:23] <iain_g4sgx> Seba6 still getting stronger here
[13:23] <daveake> nah test image
[13:23] <daveake> What happens when it hits the next country is anyone's guess :p
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[13:24] <HA6NN> SP9UOB: Hello Tom! 437600 went very well. May I recommend to take part in some CW and RTTY contests to become acqauinted with HF ham bands?
[13:24] <MLow> i see clouds
[13:24] <SP9UOB-Tom> iain_g4sgx: here is fading (below horizon shortly)
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[13:24] <Neil_M0CJM> Willdude123 Seemed to work Ok, nice audio!
[13:24] <ebenupton> what's happened to SLEET?
[13:25] <SP9UOB-Tom> HA6NN: acqauinted ?
[13:25] <Willdude123> Neil_M0CJM: yeah
[13:25] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi ebenupton Nice to see you here
[13:25] <Willdude123> Nice little radio
[13:25] <es5nhc> What's the height record??
[13:25] <fsphil> 43km-ish
[13:25] <es5nhc> Aha, thanks
[13:26] <fsphil> for an amateur flight
[13:26] <fsphil> the japanese space agency flew a balloon at 53km iirc
[13:26] <ebenupton> (hi all)
[13:26] <fsphil> but that cost millions of yen
[13:26] <daveake> Ok back to real images
[13:26] <fsphil> (or about £5)
[13:26] <daveake> Afternoon :)
[13:26] <fsphil> phew
[13:26] <DL5SFI_Steffen> G8DHE: what is the name your program that you use for Twitter?
[13:27] <fsphil> has visions of it repeating the same image forever
[13:27] <MLow> i have yet to decode a full image lol
[13:27] <jcoxon> daveake, lucky you switched to only first in country picture...
[13:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> 634.1km still decoding :-)
[13:27] <MLow> but its very impressive
[13:27] <HA6NN> Sri! acquainted...
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[13:27] <fsphil> the nice thing about the images that even if you only decode a few packets it still helps
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[13:28] <fsphil> it may have been a packet everyone else missed for some reason
[13:28] <Herman-PB0AHX> wat s freq from cloudy end mode ??
[13:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> HA6NN: im not 100% sure what You want to do ;-)
[13:28] <Herman-PB0AHX> he is not yet in fldigi by me
[13:28] <MLow> lots 5 :(
[13:28] <MLow> lost*
[13:29] <G0HDI> Is Cloudy 7n1 please
[13:29] <fsphil> autoconfigure
[13:29] <Neil_M0CJM> Willdude123 Just heard you call again
[13:29] <fsphil> select it from the list and press that
[13:29] <fsphil> it'll setup all the rtty parameters for you
[13:29] <MLow> so whats the total time for transmission of picture, i guess what im asking is what is the delay from when this current picture was taken
[13:30] <es5nhc> KF5KWE?!?!?! Must have been over sdr
[13:30] <es5nhc> websdr
[13:30] <fsphil> it can vary, but at 300 baud it's typically 4 minutes
[13:30] <MLow> es5nhc: yes lol
[13:30] <eroomde> ssdv titles the images unpromisingly 'cloudy image xx'
[13:30] <fsphil> lol
[13:30] <MLow> texas is a ways off
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[13:30] <HA6NN> SP9UOB: You had better to choose -say 21445 kHz or so...
[13:30] <fsphil> that would be some propagation
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[13:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> Sleet is a very different w/f signature to Snow ?
[13:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> HA6NN: there are loads of voice calls
[13:31] <Neil_M0CJM> Even snow disappearing on me now!
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[13:32] <HA6NN> SP9UOB: There is absolutely nothing except for some noise!
[13:32] <jcoxon> eroomde, we are 159th most popular channel on freenode
[13:32] <fsphil> lol
[13:33] <radim_OM2AMR_> SP9UOB_Tomek, great flight !
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[13:33] <PE2G> Is the SLEET/SNOW release triggered by altitude?
[13:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> radim_OM2AMR_: thanks :-)
[13:34] <radim_OM2AMR_> Tomek, I tried 21 MHz, very nice signal was here
[13:34] <Herman-PB0AHX> PE2G: weet jij qrg en mode van cloudy ?
[13:34] <HA6NN> SP9UOB: The frequencies round 21100 up to even 21200 there are often crowded by RTTY and PSK stations. Forget all recommendations! You need to know what practice is!
[13:34] <cm13g09> Dial for Snow/Sleet?
[13:34] <Steve_G0TDJ> Finally getting partials from SNOW
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[13:34] <Steve_G0TDJ> SNOW 434.410.65
[13:35] <fsphil> it's looking unlikely I'll be receiving these
[13:35] <PE2G> Herman-PB0AHX: http://ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:superlaunchsat and autoconfiguration
[13:35] <GMT> v.good sig from SNOW
[13:35] <G4MYS_Andy> The "KF5KWE" call could just be one of the many UK based hams who got themselves a US call over 10 years ago as it was A cheaper and B you knew straight away if you had passed the Exam unkike the RAE at that time , it was omly 5 quid if I recall correctly, I held KE4IRF , and Ive never been to the USA! Andy
[13:35] <Herman-PB0AHX> PE2G: mni tnx
[13:35] <iain_g4sgx> Yep, someone using ROS bang on Seba6 freq
[13:36] <fsphil> G4MYS_Andy: it's MLow :)
[13:36] <fsphil> via a websdr
[13:37] <G4MYS_Andy> Warlo mate I see your tracking SNOW is a family name GT GT granparents are buried on the common! and no I did not put them there!
[13:37] <MLow> should i change my call to reflect that?
[13:37] <G4MYS_Andy> if you want!
[13:37] <fsphil> don't think it matters
[13:37] <MLow> i feel as if i did something wrong..
[13:38] <fsphil> lol
[13:38] <fsphil> that's you on the naughty list ;)
[13:38] <G4MYS_Andy> no you did not you tock the sensible route at that time!
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[13:39] <PE2G> daveake: Are SLEET/SNOW released by altitude?
[13:39] <SP9UOB-Tom> 700 km elevation 0 - still receiving @UHF
[13:39] <G0HDI> Got a green and part of a picture from Cloudy
[13:39] <fsphil> I believe it's released by position
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[13:40] <Willdude123> Neil_M0CJM: did I?
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[13:40] <Willdude123> On 433.500?
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[13:40] <Neil_M0CJM> Willdude123 No on 145.500 again about 5 mins after we spoke
[13:40] <fsphil> right, lunch time. bbl
[13:41] <MLow> this is really interesting to me
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[13:41] <MLow> i wonder if anyone has attempted sstv in other ways like that
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[13:42] <GMT> any news on Leo's launches?
[13:42] <jcoxon> MLow, fsphil is the person to talk to, he built the ssdv system
[13:42] <MLow> UK law limits power to like 10mw correct?
[13:42] <eroomde> yep
[13:43] <eroomde> in specific bands
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[13:43] <es5nhc> You know... SSDV is great... perhaps this could be brought outside of just HABing... I love it that if you miss a block you will still get what you got... unlike etc DRM
[13:43] <MLow> i assume 440 is limited then to 10mw airborn?
[13:44] <db_g6gzh> MLow: 434 yes, it's ISM band
[13:44] <MLow> amazing
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[13:44] <Willdude123> Neil_M0CJM: oh
[13:44] <db_g6gzh> just happens to be in 70cm band
[13:45] <GMT> ISM band, same band as used by your car remote-control
[13:45] <Willdude123> I thought I was calling on 70cm
[13:45] <bbjunkie> is there a config.txt or anything for fldigi? it's crashing when I try starting it up in win xp
[13:45] <MLow> so no license even required
[13:45] <db_g6gzh> correct
[13:45] <GMT> switching to CLOUDY
[13:45] <MLow> and still images being transmitted and rx'd with 0 missing packets
[13:45] <db_g6gzh> but lots of radio amateurs with decent equipment to receive
[13:46] <jcoxon> bbjunkie, yes, if it crashes on startup its best to hunt down the config files
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[13:46] <gonzo_> what freq is cloud?
[13:46] <HA6NN> Just heard and sew a wonderful ROS transmission!
[13:46] <jcoxon> bbjunkie, http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi#crashes_during_operation_or_fails_to_start_on_windows
[13:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> No sign of any signals from WANNB1 or SLEET, can anybody else see anything ?
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[13:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> CLOUD 434.199.435 for me
[13:47] <gonzo_> or which ever needs rx ing
[13:47] <G8APZ> Geoff-G8DHE surprising no decodes on SNOW, only partials so far
[13:47] <gonzo_> ta
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[13:47] <g8gtz> Geoff-G8DHE: I did have some early decodes from Wannaba1 but it's dissapeared ;-(
[13:48] <bbjunkie> thanks jcoxon i'll take a look
[13:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> Vaguely see something at times but nothing decodes for WANNAB1
[13:49] <HA6NN> HA7018SWL: Szia! Itt vagy?
[13:49] <jcoxon> losing trackers for SP9UOB
[13:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah decode on WANNAB1
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[13:50] <jonsowman> oui
[13:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> well partials
[13:50] <eroomde> cloudy image 23
[13:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: UT3BW is in duty :-)
[13:50] <eroomde> giggle
[13:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: arso first skip is somewhere near UK so UK stations souuld get HF
[13:51] <HA6NN> STRONG ROS TRANSMISSIONS on 21115 kHz!!!
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[13:51] <iain_g4sgx> I know, that ROS is annoying
[13:51] <thequick> Greetings everyone.
[13:51] <thequick> Kinda new here.
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[13:52] <jcoxon> thequick, good time to visit
[13:52] <bbjunkie> Perfect jcoxon working now
[13:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Humm I think WANNAB1 is jumping on freq ?
[13:52] <jcoxon> lots of balloon tracking going on
[13:52] <G8JNJ> Finally getting some images from Cloudy via Southampton WEB SDR :-)
[13:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> SNOWs signal is up and down like a Yoyo here
[13:53] <G8APZ> I should be decoding SNOW but it looks gibberish! Anyone else using auto config for SNOW?
[13:53] <es5nhc> Hmm... I am looking at latest forecast on spacenear.us... did you miss the jet?
[13:53] <jcoxon> bbjunkie, yeah fldigi isn't very tolerant to broken config files
[13:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> SNOW is easy here, autconfig no problem
[13:53] <GMT> 'APZ, I had some success with SNOW, sig is quite fading etc
[13:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> G8APZ: SNOW Autoconfig is in DLFLDigi
[13:53] <Upu3G> Leo about to launch
[13:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right any particular order ?
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[13:54] <G8APZ> Thanks all... looks like it must be the fading causing bad decodes
[13:54] <jcoxon> so now we can play a game of identify landmarks on cloudy's pics
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[13:55] <iain_g4sgx> No VHF tracking for me today, just did my back in trying to get my mast up. :(
[13:55] <MLow> jcoxon: thats not fair ive never been to the uk
[13:55] <MLow> :(
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[13:56] <daveake> B-34 and B-36 about to launch
[13:56] <GMT> pic #22 is in the Chilterns, just south of Stokenchurch
[13:56] <MLow> wow so many launches, how are we to track them all
[13:57] <daveake> The images will be less ground and more sky after the plane exits
[13:57] <es5nhc> When the CLOUDY will detach?
[13:57] <eroomde> what's the weather like where you are?
[13:57] <es5nhc> And what is the latest forecast for your package, daveake?
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[13:57] <eroomde> raining here, imagine not there from the pics
[13:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> At Last One green from SNOW
[13:57] <tweetBot> @AMSAT_UK: Amateur Radio WebSDR for 434 and 1296 MHz http://t.co/M6rfXX3VnB #amsat #hamr #ukhas #hab
[13:57] <eroomde> though a bit of rain might improve the ballistic coefficient of the paper planes
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[13:58] <MLow> paper planes?
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[13:58] <MLow> now im confused
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[13:59] <G8APZ> Mlow See > http://imgur.com/a/MjsbX#3
[13:59] <G8APZ> MLow that is!
[13:59] <MLow> lol wut
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[13:59] <MLow> my lord
[13:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> 3 UK stations are tracking seba6
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[14:00] <MLow> that is awesome
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[14:01] <MLow> whats the call for those paper planes?
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[14:02] <Upu3G> lol
[14:02] <db_g6gzh> snow and sleet I think are the planes
[14:02] <Upu3G> we just launched Leo's
[14:02] <Upu3G> and it just bounced on the ground
[14:02] <jcoxon> oh no
[14:02] <Upu3G> so Leo and I had to run after ti
[14:02] <Steve_G0TDJ> Upu3G: Is it one balloon with three payloads?
[14:02] <es5nhc> oh snap
[14:02] <MLow> oh no
[14:03] <Upu3G> putting more gas in now
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[14:04] <eroomde> hah, the best kind of launch
[14:04] <eroomde> i still have a happy memory of pegasus at ears, jcoxon
[14:04] <MLow> WANNAB1 go quiet?
[14:05] <eroomde> where you tore across the field after it, your feet gathering an additional layer of mud every step
[14:05] <MLow> i dont know if that sounds worse that getting stuck in a tree
[14:05] <jcoxon> eroomde, those were not happy memories
[14:05] <eroomde> it depends on whether or not you reach it before it collides with the powerlines, really
[14:06] <jcoxon> or roads
[14:06] <MLow> these paper planes, designed to have high glide efficiency?
[14:06] Action: jcoxon is very pleased that HF is working
[14:06] <Upu3G> only 1 plane up
[14:06] <Upu3G> was too windy for 2
[14:06] <PE2G> Herman-PB0AHX: Any reception yet?
[14:06] <jcoxon> Upu3G, so sleet isn't up?
[14:07] <Upu3G> no
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[14:07] <Upu3G> and looks like my RF design sucks
[14:07] <Upu3G> live and learn
[14:07] <Upu3G> ok Leo going up in 3
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[14:07] <G8APZ> No sign of SLEET , no sign of WANNAB only SNOW but not decoding yet!
[14:07] <jcoxon> can i take it off the map then?
[14:08] <jcoxon> sleet that is
[14:08] <G8APZ> Please take CHEAPO off jcoxon
[14:08] <MLow> Upu3G: sorry to hear things didnt go well!
[14:08] <jcoxon> G8APZ, thats done already, you just need to refresh your map
[14:08] <G8APZ> OK thanks
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[14:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> WANNB1 is there but very much weaker
[14:09] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: i was tried 29 MHz and 50 MHz
[14:09] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: 29 MHz was received in Canada (from HAB)
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[14:12] <Upu3G> Leo's upo
[14:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> How is Leo doing with the B's ? They don't seem to have appeared
[14:12] <Upu3G> sort of
[14:12] <daveake_> up
[14:13] <daveake_> for small values of "up"
[14:13] <MLow> i wonder how small the image would have to be for an almost video like transmission hmm
[14:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah
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[14:13] <db_g6gzh> Does Leo rely on curvature of the earth to gain altitude?
[14:13] <MLow> LOL
[14:14] <jcoxon> looks like sp3osj has joined the party
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[14:15] <G8APZ> I give up on SNOW! Can't decode it....
[14:15] <Steve_G0TDJ> G8APZ: I did too, on CLOUDY now
[14:16] <Steve_G0TDJ> Upu3G: Are Leo's payloads on one balloon?
[14:16] <DL1SGP> good luck folks!
[14:16] <Upu3G> yes Steve_G0TDJ
[14:16] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cheers
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[14:16] <MLow> snow must be spinning like a top or something
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh so its not a Pico floater for Leo ?
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[14:17] <craag> MLow: I think the antenna is currently horizontal
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[14:22] <cm13g09_chilled> chrisstubbs: and I are outside :P
[14:22] <craag> cm13g09_chilled: Opened the window too wide?
[14:22] <craag> ah
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[14:23] <craag> is it working?
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[14:23] <cm13g09_chilled> ish
[14:23] <craag> :/
[14:23] <Laurenceb_> what the heck
[14:23] <Laurenceb_> how many balloons O_o
[14:24] <craag> Laurenceb_: all the balloons!
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[14:25] <G8APZ> Can't see SNOW on the map
[14:25] <MLow> 434.501?
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[14:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> What patter of transmission for Leo's B is it the normal pips and two frames every 5 minutes ?
[14:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> *pattern
[14:27] <craag> G8APZ: It's behind the clouds (CLOUDY)
[14:27] <G8APZ> Aha!! Thanks craag
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[14:28] <MLow> i hear beeps
[14:28] <Steve_G0TDJ> CLOUDY signal becoming vey ropey with me now...
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[14:30] <Willdude123> I must get round to finishing my board at some point
[14:30] <Willdude123> Not sure if my iron will be good enough to do it properly
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[14:31] <MLow> what mode is this?
[14:32] <MLow> B-34?
[14:32] <craag> MLow: Contestia
[14:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Contesia
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[14:32] <craag> Contestia 8/1000 to be precise
[14:32] <MLow> it set the mode to domex 16
[14:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> possible preceeded by RSID
[14:32] <G8APZ> Decoded SNOW yippee!
[14:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> You need to manually selelct Contesia 8/1000 and turn on RSID
[14:33] <craag> G8APZ: :) It would be good to have some people stay on it, even if it is a struggle, we appear to have plenty on CLOUDY.
[14:34] <jcoxon> number10, on site?
[14:35] <number10> yes - in car waiting for steve
[14:35] <number10> nice and sunny
[14:36] <MLow> yay decoded B-34
[14:36] <eroomde> nice, very wet and rainy here
[14:36] <Steve_G0TDJ> craag: SNOW breaking up here. Not much chance of a decode
[14:36] <eroomde> suspect that's heading your way
[14:36] <Laurenceb_> is B-36 alive?
[14:36] <es5nhc> Soeed if Cloudy: 107 km/h
[14:36] <eroomde> how's it with you Steve_G0TDJ ? wx-wise
[14:36] <es5nhc> Speed*
[14:36] <es5nhc> Is the speed ground speed or the speed in the air?
[14:36] <eroomde> we're both down on the south coast so we are harbingers for the berkshire-crew
[14:37] <Steve_G0TDJ> Not good Ed, Very up and down. Doesn't stay up long enough for a complete sentence
[14:37] <eroomde> es5nhc: ground speed
[14:37] <es5nhc> OK, thought so, tnx
[14:37] <eroomde> most habs have no way of measuring airspeed, but it would be zero anyway
[14:37] <Laurenceb_> lol
[14:37] <eroomde> Steve_G0TDJ: :)
[14:37] <Laurenceb_> the most pointless sensor project
[14:37] <craag> Steve_G0TDJ: Yeah I've been taking a peek on the websdr, it's all a bit fadey..
[14:38] <jcoxon> good work G8JNJ for keeping track of seba6
[14:38] <Upu3G> ok last leo oneup
[14:38] <eroomde> it's like the beginning of The Empire Strikes Back
[14:38] <eroomde> trying to get all the ships up from Hoth
[14:38] <GMT> Oh wow, just decoded B-34 ... thats 'different'!
[14:38] <Steve_G0TDJ> craag: eroomde Once Leo's get to a reasonable alt, I'll defect
[14:39] <Steve_G0TDJ> SNOW faded to nothing....
[14:39] <jcoxon> we need an automatic load balance for recevier
[14:39] <eroomde> i'll get the ion canon ready
[14:39] <eroomde> yes indeed
[14:39] <eroomde> or perhaps if the listener maps could show what payload they're tuned to on the tracker
[14:39] <eroomde> match the colour of the payload or something
[14:40] <eroomde> that would show at a glance the distribution of listeners
[14:40] <Laurenceb_> did B-36 died?
[14:40] <es5nhc> Uh oh? One more launch in Poland
[14:41] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL $$$SNOG,22714:40:$$$SNOG,22714:40:50,0.00000F0>00050,0.00000F0>000,1479,0,13R0l17*8E63
[14:41] <Laurenceb_> lol
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[14:41] <g8gtz> snow is much stronger on the horizontal beam than the SDR vertical
[14:41] <jcoxon> eroomde, perhaps when someone rewrites snus :-p
[14:41] <GMT> I had a SNOG earlier from SNOW!
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[14:42] <es5nhc> OK... looks like I might soon need to sharpen my ears for SP3OSJ
[14:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> Blimey, Ol' SNOG Gets around....
[14:42] <db_g6gzh> only 1 bit difference between W and G
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[14:43] <es5nhc> What's the RX info for SP3OSJ??
[14:43] <Herman-PB0AHX> verry close i think$$CLOUDY,309,04:41:07,52.16428,0.3533,14837,109,62,6*1D
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[14:44] <Herman-PB0AHX> yessss green $$CLOUDY,313,14:43:37,52.18472,0.41488,15200,120,63,6*3598
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[14:44] <Steve_G0TDJ> Nice one Herman
[14:44] <Herman-PB0AHX> yes it is a nice signaal Steve
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[14:45] <claudix> Hi all.... I have some questions about tracking habs... I have DL-FLDIGI installed and receiving from an FT-817ND receiver. I would like to tune the radio to the appropriate frequency for trying to receive data from habs currently flying, and I can do it for some of them because the frequency info is attached to the name of the payload. However, there are other payloads from whom I cannot determine the carrier frequency. How can
[14:45] <jcoxon> claudix, http://ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:superlaunchsat
[14:45] <G8JNJ> Using one of my remote sites just for seba6 so should be able to leave that running
[14:46] <jcoxon> list of all the freqs for todays launches
[14:46] <jcoxon> not all of them in the air yet
[14:46] <jcoxon> G8JNJ, are you still getting seba6?
[14:46] <G8JNJ> Leo's ballons are now on the WEB SDR
[14:46] <claudix> Oh, thank you very much jcoxon!
[14:46] <G8JNJ> Yes
[14:46] <craag> Hmm I could do an average of the number of callsigns for points n-[1-3]
[14:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah patial from B-34
[14:46] <craag> (to show listener distribution)
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[14:48] <Herman-PB0AHX> WOW very nice pictures from cloudy good job gays
[14:48] <G8APZ> craag I'm still on SNOW but not all packets decode :-(
[14:48] <G8JNJ> jcoxon Yes still good on 21.115MHz
[14:48] <PD0RKC> Herman PD0AHX you hear the balloon directly?
[14:48] <cm13g09_chilled> craag: we've proved something :P
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[14:48] <eroomde> Herman-PB0AHX: the word is 'guys'
[14:48] <craag> cm13g09_chilled: Oh yes? pulseaudio sucks?
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[14:50] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: yep on 434.500 here
[14:50] <Herman-PB0AHX> 200 sorry
[14:51] <Herman-PB0AHX> tnx eroomde
[14:51] <eroomde> ;)
[14:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-34 decode
[14:51] <PD0RKC> Herman tnx info I dont hear anything yet but my 70cm is narrow with fixed elevation of 40 degrees.
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[14:52] <G8JNJ> jcoxon spoke too soon no decodes for >5mins
[14:52] <Herman-PB0AHX> i dont use the big antennes i used the x5000 vertical
[14:52] <cm13g09> craag: 1) I *can* receive stuff on SDR
[14:52] <cm13g09> ISH
[14:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> cant see anything so far for B-35/6
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[14:53] <es5nhc> OK... have found the info for SP3OSJ in dl-fldigi
[14:53] <eroomde> jcoxon: 220
[14:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> Geoff-G8DHE: are the 'B's intermittent or constant TX? Any idea?
[14:54] <Herman-PB0AHX> wow wow very nice picturesnow
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[14:54] <es5nhc> Hmm... no more packets from SP3OSJ for 4 minutes on spacenear
[14:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-34 is pips for about 3-4 minutes getting faster then RSID followed by 2 frames
[14:54] <cm13g09> 2) My monitor kicks out 433Mhz interfernce
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[14:55] <eroomde> when tracking a rocket stage in the scottish highlands we found out that the landrover's alternator kicked out carrier on 434.200
[14:55] <G8APZ> CLOUDY is in Greene King country now!
[14:55] <PD0RKC> Herman PB0AHX I also connected Diamond X5000 I hear the signals now with little fading probably balloon has slow spin rate.
[14:55] <eroomde> is that where all the beer is expensive and the food is quite expensive?
[14:56] <Herman-PB0AHX> on 434.200 rtty
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[14:56] <MLow> B-36 not tx?
[14:56] <jcoxon> uh oh
[14:57] <jcoxon> new balloon on the map
[14:57] <number10> jcoxon: steves her just setting
[14:57] <jcoxon> hehe
[14:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-34 http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2013_Flights/B-34_20131228/
[14:57] <MLow> wow am i really the only one that decoded B-35
[14:57] <radim_OM2AMR_> SP9UOB - just heard CW on 21.1155
[14:58] <jcoxon> MLow, i think people are spread quite thin
[14:59] <Laurenceb_> no data from seba6 ?
[14:59] <GMT> Im on B-34, but just heard sigs from B-35
[14:59] <eroomde> my macbook air has started fanning a lot, even without much going on
[14:59] <eroomde> wonder if it's got a bit dusty
[15:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> They should just about appear in the same bandwidth if set wide enough!
[15:00] <radim_OM2AMR_> $$seba6,258,145925,4924.1556,03451.5s29,37624,333,868,0f*c150i
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[15:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> radim_OM2AMR_: nothing here
[15:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> Can only hear pips for B-34 at present
[15:00] <Laurenceb_> is SP9UOB coming via APRS?
[15:00] <iain_g4sgx> I lost Seba6 a half hour ago..
[15:01] <jcoxon> Laurenceb_, no Ukrainian listeners
[15:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> Howmany balloons for the B-34/5/6 is each seperate of are they all on one ?
[15:01] <MLow> B-35 came in good for me just now
[15:01] <daveake> 2 balloons
[15:01] <jcoxon> hooray for kpiman
[15:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> Laurenceb: yes, 10 MHz but unmatched antenna
[15:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> Laurenceb: no frame received by now
[15:02] <kpiman> got the green with the detail for seba6, 2502km distance
[15:02] <PE2G> I seem unable to get any greens from SNOW and CLOUDY yet :(
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[15:02] <G8APZ> eroomde it depends on what you call expensive!
[15:03] <eroomde> greene king own all the pubs in cambridge, where i lived for 5 years
[15:03] <eroomde> wasn't impressed
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[15:03] <G8APZ> PE2G SNOW has lots of QSB...must be spinning!
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[15:03] <G8APZ> eroomde I like their Abbot though!
[15:04] <fsphil> oh nice cloud
[15:04] <fsphil> how's it all going?
[15:04] <eroomde> they had all the famous well-located ones, and didn;t really try very hard with any of them (they didn;t have to really) which was a bit of a shame. was allaveragely kept beers and £11 for lasagne from a big dish under a hot-lamp
[15:04] <PE2G> G8APZ: Yeah. What rx filter bandwidth are you using for CLOUDY?
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[15:06] <G8APZ> eroomde £11 is taking the p155
[15:06] <radim_OM2AMR_> got green Tomek
[15:06] <Willdude123> I think this setup may work now http://i.imgur.com/0T187hu.png
[15:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah here comes B-35 and B-36
[15:07] <GMT> I'm getting both B34 and B35 in the same sig
[15:07] <G8APZ> PE2G I am on SNOW with 140 b/w
[15:08] <fsphil> just a bit higher, c'mon!
[15:08] <PE2G> G8APZ: Thanks
[15:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> GMT What have you for dial?
[15:08] <fsphil> it's just a few degrees below my horizon
[15:08] <PE2G> First green from SNOW
[15:09] <Herman-PB0AHX> PE2G: i used auto configure it is working fine here for cloudy
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[15:09] <jcoxon> OZ1SKY_Brian, you're back!
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[15:09] <GMT> Steve_G0TDJ: Im on 434.500.2
[15:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cheers
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[15:10] <Reb-SM3ULC> radim_OM2AMR_: have partial decodeshere inthe middle of sweden, but no whole packets
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[15:10] <G8APZ> Is ANU up?
[15:10] <radim_OM2AMR_> Reb-SM3ULC I have just silence now
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[15:11] <MLow> snow is geting close to the water...
[15:12] <G8APZ> PE2G You are doing well! It only decodes green some of the time here
[15:12] <fsphil> the ground is getting a bit hazy
[15:12] <fsphil> hopefully get some nice images with a low sun
[15:12] <fsphil> ooh gap
[15:13] <G8APZ> bad decode said $$$$$SNOG :-)
[15:13] <Neil_M0CJM> Why does my Spacenearus indicate that the balloons have hardly moved from their launch place?
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[15:13] <fsphil> more gaps
[15:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon yes i just started to get better now
[15:13] <G8APZ> nobody hearing them Neil_M0CJM
[15:13] <fsphil> is the signal getting choppy?
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[15:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon now its gone again
[15:15] <MLow> looks like sp3osj will be hitting west coast of US in a few days lol
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[15:17] <PD0RKC> PB0AHX Herman I have sended you an e-mail
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[15:17] <Steve_G0TDJ> B-34 Green!
[15:17] <PE2G> Firstgreen from CLOUDY at 364 km: http://s15.postimg.org/djfh1zpaz/Screen1273.jpg
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[15:18] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: ok i look
[15:19] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: u have my number ??
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[15:20] <PD0RKC> Herman no I have not, if you can send in mail (I have sended you e-mail via veron.nl).
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[15:20] <DL1SGP> hi again
[15:21] <DL1SGP> how are the flights / floats going?
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[15:21] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: pse mail via info@pb0ahx.nl
[15:22] <jcoxon> odd that we've missed some packets
[15:22] <jcoxon> for the pictures
[15:22] <PD0RKC> PB0AHX sended now to that mail address you provided
[15:22] <craag> habmap now reports average number of receivers over the last 3 positions
[15:22] <craag> bbl dinner
[15:23] <Lunar_Lander> PE2G, do you have a frequency for me for CLOUDY please?
[15:23] <Lunar_Lander> hey craag !
[15:23] <es5nhc> SP3OSJ has been quiet since 1509Z... hmm
[15:23] <DL1SGP> Guten Abend Lunar
[15:23] <Lunar_Lander> hallo DL1SGP
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[15:23] <Steve_G0TDJ> DL1SGP: Pretty good, although I've not had great success myself. Nice procession of balloons on the map :-)
[15:23] <DL1SGP> fantastic, are they still floating this way Steve_G0TDJ ?
[15:24] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yes, they're all on the way over
[15:24] <PE2G> Lunar_Lander: 434.200.1
[15:24] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[15:24] <LeoBodnar> yo!
[15:24] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: ok u can call
[15:25] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hey Leo
[15:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> Hi LeoBodnar, B-34 and B-35 OK but B-36 ?
[15:25] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, 236km to the ukranian border
[15:26] <DL1SGP> thanks for nfo Steve_G0TDJ
[15:26] <Steve_G0TDJ> np :-)
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[15:26] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: less than hour
[15:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah partial decode on B-36
[15:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> so next continent, i have Africa, Europe and now Asia :-)
[15:27] <PE2G> First green image decodings at 364 km
[15:27] <JFS1> Afternoon all! What's the current thinking on a good camera to use for inflight video? I hear the GoPro3 might be a bit unhappy with getting cold.
[15:28] <PE2G> Sorry, at 346 km
[15:28] <es5nhc> Polish guys - any word on SP3OSJ? It hasn't updated for about 20 minutes
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[15:30] <Lunar_Lander> JFS1, but I think GoPros have been used on balloons
[15:30] <Lunar_Lander> and Baumgartner had them on him when he jumped
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[15:30] <radim_OM2AMR_> JSF1, no problem with GoPro3
[15:30] <G8APZ> CLOUDY crossing the coast
[15:30] <LeoBodnar> not sure about B-36 health it had some heavy knock on the first launch attempt
[15:31] <JFS1> Cheers LunarLander - which version of them is being used successfully for video?
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[15:32] <eroomde> JFS1: i think probably all flavours have flown on a hab by this point
[15:33] <TeBe> SP3OSJ last update 15:32:23
[15:33] <chrisstubbs> cm13g09, im getting CLOUDY without an antenna
[15:34] <chrisstubbs> you mad bro?
[15:34] <es5nhc> spacenear.us says 15:09:43Z
[15:34] <JFS1> Is the White, Black or Silver used for most youtube HAB videos?
[15:34] <cm13g09> chrisstubbs: WHAT!?
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[15:34] <es5nhc> SP9UOB is as of 15:33:43
[15:35] <TeBe> oh, sorry
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[15:35] <radim_OM2AMR_> JSF1 - Hero3 Black - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFUmYwlDeUw
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[15:36] <tweetBot> @jamescoxon: Mass balloon launch http://t.co/6PpAhXUoMd #ukhas #hamr #hamradio
[15:36] <G8JNJ> <LeoBodnar> B34 is the strongest via WEB SDR B35 / 36 are about the same -8dB WRT B34
[15:36] <cm13g09> chrisstubbs: I'm not LO
[15:36] <cm13g09> *:P
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> hi chrisstubbs
[15:37] <chrisstubbs> Hi Lunar_Lander
[15:38] <daveake> 176kph now. That's more like it
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[15:39] <cm13g09> sweet FA here chrisstubbs....
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[15:39] <chrisstubbs> :(
[15:39] <daveake> 185kph
[15:39] <TeBe> SP9UOB is heading exactly to Kapustin Yar, russian launch center close to Astrachan :-)
[15:40] <jcoxon> what are the criteria for SNOW to be dropped?
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[15:40] <daveake> >27km >4 longitude
[15:40] <daveake> &&
[15:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> radim_OM2AMR_: nice lyrics :-)
[15:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> radim_OM2AMR_: whole song :-)
[15:41] <daveake> Over the sea now .... :p
[15:41] <radim_OM2AMR_> SP9UOB-Tom, I like it too :-)
[15:41] <DL5SFI_Steffen> nice pic ;-)
[15:41] <daveake> lost a packet in the raspberry :/
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[15:43] <cm13g09> chrisstubbs: I could probably build a tracker.... but I can't seem to track it lol :P
[15:44] <number10> ANU off the ground
[15:44] <eroomde> congrats
[15:44] <Steve_G0TDJ> Good Flight number10
[15:44] <number10> hablab to set up now :)
[15:45] <number10> thanks
[15:45] <daveake> Yeah we need more balloons on the map :p
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[15:45] <daveake> Cloudy is speeding up and getting blown about a bit
[15:46] <Upu> 208kmph
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[15:46] <daveake> Not bad; more to go
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[15:46] <G8APZ> what freq is ANU on?
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[15:47] <fsphil> is the signal choppy?
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[15:47] <daveake> yes
[15:47] <fsphil> it's not often we lose packets
[15:47] <es5nhc> SP3OSJ still has not updated? Dead?'
[15:47] <daveake> wind shear
[15:48] <daveake> and acceleration :p
[15:48] <Upu> getting draged about by the stupid paper plane attached to it
[15:48] <daveake> 215kph
[15:48] <daveake> and that :/
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[15:48] <daveake> Upu is never happy unless he can attach something to one of my flights to make things go wrong :p
[15:49] <fsphil> its horizon is now moving away from me
[15:49] <daveake> silly round earth
[15:49] <fsphil> indeed
[15:49] <fsphil> a flat earth would have been so much handier
[15:49] <daveake> I've decided that my bug is a feature
[15:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> Discworld
[15:49] <daveake> That pic is better than the ones it's taking today :)
[15:49] <fsphil> lol
[15:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> es5nhc: confirmed dead
[15:49] <fsphil> yea it's very hazy
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[15:50] <daveake> Plus ... it won't be long before it's dark up there
[15:50] <fsphil> sun is starting to get low
[15:50] <daveake> So might as well send a good pic
[15:50] <daveake> It's almost as if I planned it :p
[15:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Snow/Cloudy should start soon here
[15:50] <daveake> cool Brian
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[15:50] <fsphil> I'll edit the logs, nobody will know any better
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[15:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> first traces of Cloudy now
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[15:51] <daveake> fsphil I think we* need to work on error corrected telemetry for these SSDV flights
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[15:51] <daveake> *you
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[15:51] <fsphil> hah
[15:52] <fsphil> a packet type with coordinates in the header maybe
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[15:52] <daveake> Do you have a spare bit anywhere for a packet type?
[15:52] <fsphil> yea
[15:52] <fsphil> but it would break all current receivers
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[15:53] <daveake> ah that was my next question
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[15:53] <fsphil> better to have the position in its own little packet anyway
[15:53] <es5nhc> SP9UOB-Tom, thanks.
[15:53] <G8APZ> Anyone know what freq ANU is on?
[15:53] <jcoxon> .350 i think
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[15:54] <G8APZ> jcoxon OK thanks
[15:54] <fsphil> on the plus side these current images are very compressable
[15:55] <ike> SP9UOB-Tom you said that you use DDS ad9851
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[15:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> ike: yes
[15:55] <fsphil> you should be able to image some cities or large towns
[15:55] <ike> can you do the same with ad9850
[15:55] <ike> modules with ad9850 are several times cheaper
[15:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> ike: dont know - have to look into datasheet :-)
[15:55] <fsphil> there's much less cloud there than orion had
[15:56] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: i see u on the map now
[15:57] <ike> SP9UOB-Tom sometime you can buy ad9850 module for $2.50 http://www.ebay.com/itm/400628604525?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
[15:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> ike: this is a custom module ;-)
[15:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> ike: https://plus.google.com/photos/108111435264693957520/albums/5962384967562756657/5962385026618559090?partnerid=gplp0&pid=5962385026618559090&oid=108111435264693957520
[15:58] <ike> SP9UOB-Tom it looks like solviet VEF radio
[15:59] <es5nhc> ike, those were made in Latvia, I think
[15:59] <ike> http://www.richardsradios.co.uk/Images/vef2.jpg
[16:00] <es5nhc> I myself have soviet Okean 214. Still use it for LW, MW and SW listening
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[16:02] <G8APZ> ANU dial freq is 434.352
[16:02] <Herman-PB0AHX> wow distance for cloudy is 90 km from here nice and strong
[16:03] <PD0RKC> Yes Herman-PB0AHX I am on the map seems working now
[16:03] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: ok nice
[16:03] <PD0RKC> Im using now x yagi give me better signal
[16:03] <daveake> Leo managed to aim right between those 2 trees: http://i.imgur.com/A3T5Ei1.jpg
[16:04] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: now writing data and have a lot of green lines
[16:04] <fsphil> he really is mad
[16:04] <fsphil> (in a nice way. hi LeoBodnar)
[16:04] <Steve_G0TDJ> Close....
[16:05] <G8JNJ> ANU - 434.352MHz RTTY 450Hz 50 baud ASCII-7 no parity, 2 stop
[16:05] <daveake> When Leo says "that's enough gas", you need approx 10 more Stirks
[16:05] <PD0RKC> PB0AHX yes I see my callsign under right side picture
[16:06] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: yessssssss u have green lines i see
[16:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Its starting Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E540 20C6
[16:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ups
[16:06] <Steve_G0TDJ> B-34 blowing my windows out, Cripes
[16:06] <fsphil> lol
[16:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $CdOULy,43<12:0.z4L16&<129,3>%42ptd068,™š,
[16:07] <fsphil> you should be getting image decodes soon
[16:07] <G8JNJ> $$ANU,388,16:07:09,52.18175,1.06677,1886,10*E4C3 via web sdr
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[16:08] <Lunar_Lander> PE2G, on 434.202.3 there is a burst signal like di-dit
[16:08] <Lunar_Lander> going up to S9
[16:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> Can't quite get B-35 sentences.
[16:08] <Lunar_Lander> but that only occurs every 5 sec approx
[16:08] <fsphil> the big flaw with the ISM band
[16:08] <fsphil> probably a neighbours fuel meter or weather station
[16:08] <daveake> Leo and his net http://imgur.com/hlLGCzX
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[16:09] <fsphil> cool
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[16:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> Neat image
[16:10] <PD0RKC> PB0AHX Herman red bar now (not green).
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[16:10] <Lunar_Lander> yea fsphil
[16:10] <Steve_G0TDJ> YES! B-35 :-)
[16:11] <PE2G> Lunar_Lander: Yes, I know what you mean. Probaly a wireless weather station somewhere
[16:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> The H-pol beam seems to be better for Cloudy
[16:11] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD0RKC: yes sommetimes it is so
[16:11] <PE2G> *Probably
[16:12] <es5nhc> Anu is also a great YL name here in ES
[16:12] <PD0RKC> PB0AHX I think because of lost data due fading
[16:13] <jcoxon> ooo i can see something in the pics
[16:13] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[16:13] <fsphil> life on earth!
[16:13] <Steve_G0TDJ> Wow...
[16:13] <es5nhc> I think you can see city lights on img 56
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[16:14] <Steve_G0TDJ> That is SO cool
[16:14] <daveake> nice
[16:14] <Lunar_Lander> where, on the SSDV page?
[16:14] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yes LL
[16:14] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[16:14] <Herman-PB0AHX> wow i go start chase here for cloudy i think
[16:14] <G8APZ> Is that Amsterdam?
[16:14] <Upu> snow has separated
[16:14] <daveake> SNOW has been launched :)
[16:15] <fsphil> yes!
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[16:15] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cool'a'rama :-)
[16:15] <Lunar_Lander> can someone please link me to the SSDV page again?
[16:15] <es5nhc> Already, but you're offshore?
[16:15] <fsphil> Lunar_Lander: ssdv.habhub.org
[16:15] <Lunar_Lander> daveake, Upu cool!
[16:15] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[16:15] <Herman-PB0AHX> yes i think so
[16:15] <Lunar_Lander> daveake, hope that the balloons get in range, my system is up again
[16:15] <GMT> Wow, I didnt realise that CLOUDY had made it so far so quickly!
[16:15] <jcoxon> prob best we track snow
[16:15] <daveake> flag coming in on ssdv
[16:15] <Lunar_Lander> had to do a rollback to 32bit in the end
[16:16] <x-f> SNOW was dropped?
[16:16] <Steve_G0TDJ> Sorry LL it's http://ssdv.habhub.org/CLOUDY
[16:16] <fsphil> x-f: yep!
[16:16] <x-f> wii
[16:16] <Steve_G0TDJ> Bonjour le CLOUDY.....
[16:16] <es5nhc> Dutch flag
[16:16] <MLow> what are those lights
[16:16] <Reb-SM3ULC> img 56 has lights :)
[16:16] <Steve_G0TDJ> Oh yeah, French is the other way up LOL
[16:16] <fsphil> possibly Amsterdam
[16:16] <daveake> Amsterdam I guess
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[16:16] <daveake> Or the Hague
[16:17] <es5nhc> works either way Steve_G0TDJ
[16:17] <Steve_G0TDJ> Ah! :D
[16:17] <es5nhc> Given there aren't others sending right now :)
[16:17] <G8APZ> anyone know if the parameters in FL-digi for Leo's flights are correct? auto config gives DomX16
[16:17] <PE1GTA> Goedenavond CLOUDY
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[16:17] <Lunar_Lander> thanks Steve_G0TDJ and fsphil , I can see it
[16:17] <daveake> 325kph
[16:17] <daveake> Much faster now it's junked that plane :p
[16:17] <cm13g09> lol
[16:17] <Lunar_Lander> thanks for identification daveake and fsphil
[16:17] <mattbrejza> G8APZ: autoconfig cant change to the correct mode, you have to do it manually
[16:17] <Lunar_Lander> the city I mean
[16:18] <G8APZ> OK thanks... done it now!
[16:18] <daveake> LL Do you have you radio with you?
[16:18] Action: cm13g09 thinks he'll stick to ground-based projects ;)
[16:18] <G8APZ> mattbrejza thanks
[16:18] <fsphil> https://lh3.ggpht.com/-ZMF5Xmkps9I/TyPmyoWOgiI/AAAAAAAAAow/p-QCKHTVu9c/s1600/benelux_at_night.jpg
[16:18] <fsphil> doesn't really help
[16:18] <fsphil> maybe Rotterdam
[16:19] <fsphil> nah, you can see the coast
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[16:20] <PD0RKC> Why sever balloons today, was maybe better spread over other days
[16:20] <daveake> Weather
[16:20] <daveake> and not Xmas
[16:20] <x-f> i was afk for a few hours, could you please update me on WANNAB1 and SLEET status?
[16:20] <daveake> WANNAB1 didn't work
[16:20] <daveake> SLEET we left behind
[16:21] <Upu> WANNABE is till up there
[16:21] <Upu> probably transmitting but antenna possibly damaged
[16:21] <Lunar_Lander> PE2G, is your dial still 434.200.1?
[16:21] <MLow> hear it?
[16:21] <x-f> thank you
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[16:21] <es5nhc> So what is the last working transmitter that will stay up?
[16:21] <PE2G> Lunar_Lander: yes.
[16:21] <Upu> CLOUDY
[16:21] <daveake> CLOUDY
[16:21] <Lunar_Lander> ah thanks
[16:21] <es5nhc> Thanks
[16:21] <daveake> That will drop at Longitude 20
[16:21] <es5nhc> So when CLOUDY goes then it's over
[16:21] Nick change: A -> Guest73892
[16:22] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I still hear that strange ISM burst on there but nothing else
[16:22] <x-f> i finally realised why WANNAB1 is called WANNAB1 :)
[16:22] <daveake> duh :)
[16:22] <fsphil> lol
[16:22] <es5nhc> So I guess we here in ES can go to sleep now minus the 15m
[16:22] <fsphil> nice pic
[16:23] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, you've made Russia
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[16:23] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: and Asia :-)
[16:23] <Upu> lol x-f
[16:23] <fsphil> very nice pic
[16:24] <x-f> yeah, yeah :)
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[16:24] <fsphil> it's at quite a weird angle now since it dropped the plane
[16:24] <daveake> Yeah much better view now that dead weight has been jettisoned :p
[16:24] <x-f> es5nhc, why, B-balloons are coming too?
[16:24] <es5nhc> Ah õigus...
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[16:24] <fsphil> snow is definitly making land
[16:24] <fsphil> possibly in amsterdam
[16:24] <Lunar_Lander> SP9UOB-Tom, Awesome!
[16:24] <daveake> 334kph / 207mph
[16:24] <Lunar_Lander> seeing it going towards China :)
[16:25] <es5nhc> Oops
[16:25] <es5nhc> "Ah õigus..." is Estonian for "Ah right"
[16:25] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[16:25] <SP9UOB-Tom> Lunar_Lander: most of parts are from China - its going back home ;-)
[16:26] <fsphil> blurry venus in pic 59?
[16:26] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[16:26] <mclane> ah - snow landing in the Ijselmeer? hope not
[16:26] <es5nhc> Or Jupiter?
[16:26] <fsphil> jupiter is further from the sun atm
[16:26] <fsphil> it could be the moon
[16:26] <fsphil> nah
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[16:27] <fsphil> mercury is probably too faint
[16:27] <Lunar_Lander> there is no pointing info for the camera right?
[16:27] <es5nhc> No way. Moon is Waning Crescent
[16:27] <fsphil> yea
[16:27] <Lunar_Lander> ok
[16:27] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[16:27] <es5nhc> Which means Moon is a morning thing
[16:27] <eroomde> i really really want a nice clear evening to try out my new binoculars
[16:27] Action: fsphil installs celestia
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[16:27] <Lunar_Lander> let me check the Amsterdam Sky in Stellarium
[16:27] <fsphil> now's a great time to see venus through binos
[16:28] <PD0RKC> PB0AHX Herman signal strength getting weaker?
[16:28] <x-f> fsphil, Stellarium better
[16:28] <fsphil> ah, that's the one I meant x-f
[16:28] <Lunar_Lander> OK, Almere, 34 km up
[16:28] <Lunar_Lander> Venus is next to the setting sun
[16:28] <eroomde> fsphil: would be if there wasn't the cloud cover
[16:28] <fsphil> celestia on now anyway
[16:28] <G4MYS_Andy> Image 19 & 46 appear to be the same... of Devon and Cornwall... any thoughts?
[16:28] <Lunar_Lander> Jupiter is just rising in the west
[16:28] <eroomde> which is good on linux - stellarium?
[16:28] <G8APZ> Amusing to hear B34 and B35 at same time just 1kHz apart!
[16:28] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[16:28] <Lunar_Lander> eroomde, yea
[16:29] <eroomde> cool thanks
[16:29] <Lunar_Lander> you're welcome
[16:29] <PD0RKC> CLOADY getting weaker here
[16:29] <Lunar_Lander> I suspect we can see the sun on the photo, so that might be Venus
[16:29] <fsphil> stellarium and celestia both work well on linux
[16:29] <fsphil> stellarium has some great artwork
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[16:30] <Upu> do I get bonus points for landing on PD5DJ ?
[16:30] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[16:30] <tweetBot> @daveake: CLOUDY successfully jettisoned the paper plane "SNOW" west of Holland :) #raspberrypi #UKHAS http://t.co/Qb7zPXc0n4
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[16:31] <Upu> can any of the dutch stations see Wannabe on 434.200 ?
[16:31] <Lunar_Lander> why is the dutch flag in 57, is there a piece of code that can recognize entering a country and then overlaying the flag?
[16:31] <daveake> yes
[16:31] <fsphil> yea it's venus
[16:32] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil, as said before :P
[16:32] <Lunar_Lander> daveake, cool
[16:32] <Steve_G0TDJ> I've got to go for a while but it's been fantastic - I'll check back later. 73 fer nw :-)
[16:32] <fsphil> and as I suspected before that Lunar_Lander :)
[16:32] <Lunar_Lander> yea xD
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[16:32] <es5nhc> Lot's to track about, so what is the latest status summary?
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[16:32] <Lunar_Lander> I got nothing yet here
[16:32] <Lunar_Lander> *note: get a yagi somehow one day*
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[16:33] <es5nhc> I understand we here in ES might have a chance with the B's. Dave's balloon is out though. Right?
[16:33] <es5nhc> "Out" in a sense that it won't reach the Baltics while still putting out signals?
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[16:33] <PA3WEG> hi all
[16:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Cloudy is alot strong on H than on V
[16:34] <PA3WEG> just got back home and opened the map....:D
[16:34] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[16:34] <Lunar_Lander> did your PC stand loading it?
[16:34] <fsphil> cloudy's sitting at a bit of an angle atm
[16:34] <es5nhc> My laptop somehow manages to put up with this...
[16:34] <es5nhc> But the map is crazy
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[16:34] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:34] <Lunar_Lander> Cloudly looks good, will pass by south of me
[16:35] <Lunar_Lander> SNOW might do the feat of HoHoHo-1 and land in the Ijsselmeer
[16:35] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[16:35] <fsphil> quicky, call Tim!
[16:35] <G8APZ> B-34 and B-35 only 700Hz apart now!
[16:35] <es5nhc> That would be more like "Ha-ha!"
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[16:36] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[16:36] <daveake> Tim's the man
[16:37] <Herman-PB0AHX> who is the owner of SNOW? He wants to be your recoverable?
[16:37] <fsphil> very good
[16:37] <es5nhc> Okay, what's the exact longitude at which CLOUDY will separates? 20.0°E?
[16:37] <Upu> its mine Herman-PB0AHX
[16:37] <Herman-PB0AHX> ok upu
[16:37] <Upu> you're welcome to go after it but suspect its going to get wet
[16:37] <Herman-PB0AHX> u want him back
[16:37] <es5nhc> I just realized western fringes of ES-land go to 22°E... so it is far high some signal might still spill here
[16:37] <es5nhc> I myself am 58.16°N 26.45°E
[16:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> 21 MHz does the job :-)
[16:38] <fsphil> is the 21mhz one still transmitting?
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[16:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: sure
[16:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: Time: 2013-12-28 16:33:35
[16:38] <PD0RKC> --==PA3WEG hi Wouter!
[16:38] <Upu> I don't expect it back
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[16:39] <fsphil> tuned to 21.115 .. is the offset still about 1800hz?
[16:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: yes
[16:40] <Herman-PB0AHX> Upu: ok if he is not in water i go if it posible here
[16:40] <daveake> cool
[16:40] <radim_OM2AMR_> 21.1155 with center on 1000Hz, very weak here
[16:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> OM1ATS,329,16:39:24,0.0,0.0,0,0,7.92,0c
[16:40] <Upu> awesome :)
[16:40] <Upu> take a torch there is high vis tape on the wings
[16:41] <Upu> if the battery lasts
[16:41] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: nice idea :-)
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[16:41] <jcoxon> Upu its defintiely gliding
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[16:41] <jcoxon> -4.5m/s at 7855m
[16:42] <fsphil> snow lost lock?
[16:42] <daveake> Looks like CLOUDY is floating
[16:42] <Upu> is it still transmitting ?
[16:42] <fsphil> there's data coming in but it was 0,0
[16:42] <Herman-PB0AHX> yes
[16:43] <fsphil> ah it's back now
[16:43] <jcoxon> and you've beaten the Reg for highest paper aeroplane
[16:43] <Upu> no insulation
[16:43] <Upu> bar the paper
[16:43] <fsphil> 5km
[16:43] <fsphil> and turning
[16:43] <fsphil> cloud returning some nice sunset pics
[16:44] <daveake> Yes better than I expected
[16:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> Hum B-34 & B-35 are now overlapping the bandwidths only 500Hz difference
[16:44] <Upu> given the battery
[16:44] <fsphil> I think snow might make land
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[16:44] <PA3WEG> Upu, any camera on board, or just tracker?
[16:44] <Upu> if you want to chase it I'd be setting off now
[16:44] <Upu> just tracker
[16:44] <SpeedEvil> jcoxon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TkK_j3Sj3E
[16:44] <PA3WEG> an Hi Cor
[16:44] <PA3WEG> topo late ..;)
[16:44] <PA3WEG> too late I mean
[16:45] <x-f> hah, just noticed that SP3OSJ has joined the party as well
[16:45] <fsphil> 0,0 again
[16:45] <jcoxon> SpeedEvil, boo
[16:45] <chrisstubbs> contestia seems cool
[16:45] <daveake> It's aiming for PD5DJ :)
[16:45] <es5nhc> Joined and left it again, x-f
[16:46] <Herman-PB0AHX> PD5DJ is not in the chat grgrgr
[16:46] <fsphil> still no lock
[16:46] <daveake> Anyone in contact with PD5DJ? Or is anyone chasing?
[16:46] <daveake> ok
[16:46] <PE2G> SNOW's gps data gone
[16:46] <mclane> looks like free fall or wet
[16:46] <x-f> es5nhc, time is two hours ago, it stopped transmitting?
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[16:47] <PE2G> $$$$$SNOW,3552,16:47:07,0.00000,0.00000,0,0,1240,49*EF11
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[16:47] <es5nhc> yup... that's what I understood from SP9UOB-Tom - (cue the obligatory Monty Python parrot reference)
[16:47] <DF5LR> acc aprs.fi no one chasing with aprs-equipment
[16:47] <eroomde> wonder if you could make the whole 'paper' aeroplane from flexi-pcb
[16:47] <x-f> ok, thanks for info
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[16:48] <PA3WEG> now on the phone with my brother, he lives where the balloon is now ;)
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[16:48] <bertrik2> pity that SNOW lost the GPS fix
[16:48] <fsphil> it won't be long until it's on the gronud
[16:48] <PE2G> My last from SNOW
[16:48] <PE2G> $$$$$SNOW,3559,16:47:47,0.00000,0.00000,0,0,1296,49*A43D
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[16:48] <G8APZ> B-34 and B-35 are louder than B-36 but even so they all decode perfectly.... much better than SNOW when I was tracking it!!
[16:48] <bertrik2> SNOW signal gone now for RevSpace (The Hague, Netherlands)
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[16:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-35 and B-34 now sharing the same bandwidth
[16:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-34 is rising in fre
[16:49] <mclane> welcome to Germany, CLOUDY
[16:49] <Upu> ok thx for tracking suspect SNOW got too cold
[16:49] <eroomde> ironatron
[16:49] <Upu> will probably pickup when on the ground
[16:49] <fsphil> image 65, venus again
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[16:50] <tweetBot> @daveake: SNOW has landed in Holland and CLOUDY has entered a float, heading for Germany #raspberrypi #UKHAS http://t.co/uGW12WK1Z2
[16:50] <fsphil> nice high cloud on the horizon
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[16:50] <eroomde> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[16:50] <eroomde> 65 is a stunner
[16:50] <fsphil> yep
[16:50] <fsphil> more city lights too
[16:50] <es5nhc> Indeed
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[16:50] <number10> hablab is up
[16:51] <es5nhc> 64 has lights too
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[16:51] <es5nhc> Has it ever been such a busy day?
[16:51] <eroomde> not that I can recall
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[16:51] <eroomde> we've had flights with 4-5 payloads on one balloon before
[16:51] <eroomde> but not so many balloons, i don't think
[16:51] <x-f> ^^ and he's the elder
[16:52] <SP3OSJ> Hi ples enter : Doc ID:cf456697861efeb2e7e04280a0bc7cca and delete SP3OSJ/17 ......
[16:52] <eroomde> jcoxon and rocketboy are elderer
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[16:52] <tweetBot> @daveake: Nice pic of Venus from CLOUDY #raspberrypi #UKHAS http://t.co/IvhPQclAEY
[16:52] <wd8mnv> that's 12 craft in the air today?
[16:52] <SP3OSJ> delete SP3OSJ/17... dl-digi and delete SP3OSJ http://spacenear.us/tracker/
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[16:53] <SP3OSJ> #habhub
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[16:54] <jcoxon> SP3OSJ, i'll delete it off the map
[16:54] <jedas> SP3OSJ that's won't transmit anymore ?
[16:54] <Lunar_Lander> I think I can hear RTTY in the noise but dl-fldigi disagrees
[16:54] <dg9bfc> i am close to cloudy ... strong signal BUT how to deCODE????
[16:55] <fsphil> technically there is every sound in noise
[16:55] <cuddykid> cloudy is moving at quite a rate
[16:55] <es5nhc> Nice at 66 and 67
[16:55] <chrisstubbs> dg9bfc, do you have dl-fldigi installed?
[16:55] <dg9bfc> i do have dl fldigi hab mode ...
[16:55] <dg9bfc> receiver fcdpp
[16:55] <fsphil> flag pic
[16:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah german :-)
[16:55] <dg9bfc> what are filter settings baudrate etc ALL details pls
[16:55] <daveake> dah da dah dah dah dah di di dah
[16:56] <es5nhc> Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit ...
[16:56] <GMT> Hey, the top segment of the flag is missing!
[16:56] <chrisstubbs> select the flight including cloudy from the dropdown, then select cloudy, then press autoconfigure
[16:56] <cuddykid> would be nice if there was an option to turn off radio horizons on the tracker - it gets a bit much when there are multiple payloads drifting around
[16:56] <es5nhc> It is there GMT, just won't appear well amid dark background
[16:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> First time i get to see SSDV :-)
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[16:57] <es5nhc> I got to see on 30 Nov-1 Dec
[16:57] <fsphil> still managing to decode it Upu
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[16:57] <es5nhc> So the release will be where... Polish border?
[16:57] <tweetBot> @tyrower: "@daveake: Nice pic of Venus from CLOUDY #raspberrypi #UKHAS http://t.co/YnM9HF50Qv" Wow!
[16:58] <daveake> longitude 20
[16:58] <es5nhc> Exactly 20.0?
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[16:58] <daveake> Yes
[16:58] <es5nhc> k thx
[16:58] <daveake> Well, about 47 seconds later
[16:58] <DF5LR> @dg9bfc RTTY 300/600 there is also special customised program called dl-fldigi
[16:59] <es5nhc> Need to ring all hams in Sõrve :D
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[16:59] <cuddykid> are these nichrome based cutdowns daveake?
[16:59] <daveake> resistors
[16:59] <Lunar_Lander> disappointing here
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[17:00] <Lunar_Lander> http://s.gullipics.com/image/n/7/u/5yvddc-k1zfd4-wcu/Bildschirmfotovom20131228175935.png
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[17:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Lunar_Lander your bandwith is way to lowq
[17:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> low
[17:00] <daveake> yep
[17:01] <daveake> also check it's 8 bits not 7
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[17:01] <DF5LR> @dg9bfc http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide:german
[17:01] <Lunar_Lander> ah, its from the auto button
[17:01] <fsphil> bandwidth should be at least 300
[17:01] <fsphil> otherwise that looks a good signal
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[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> it's at 8 bit
[17:02] <solarballoonman> What happened to sleet? Not showing on spacenear.
[17:02] <fsphil> should be 8-bit, no parity and 2 stop bits
[17:02] <fsphil> wasn't launched solarballoonman
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> that is in, and 300 baud
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> carrier shift is 850
[17:02] <fsphil> yea
[17:02] <solarballoonman> OK.
[17:02] <fsphil> shift should be 600
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> ah filter bandwith 68
[17:02] <fsphil> put your bandwidth at 300, or just above
[17:03] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[17:03] <Lunar_Lander> 310
[17:03] <fsphil> that's fine
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[17:04] <fsphil> hopefully all that should be enough to get data decoding
[17:04] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[17:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-34 is now 1KHz above B-35 both are drifting 34 Up and 35 down!
[17:04] <fsphil> also make sure the radio is set to USB mode
[17:05] <Lunar_Lander> it is
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[17:05] <HA7018SWL> What are the RTTY params for Clody? It's flying this direction...
[17:05] <daveake> 300 baud 600 shift 8 N 1 USB
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[17:05] <fsphil> 1 or 2 stop bits?
[17:05] <daveake> ah
[17:05] <daveake> 2
[17:05] <HA7018SWL> auto config made 2 stop bits
[17:05] <daveake> sorry
[17:05] <daveake> yes 2
[17:05] <HA7018SWL> ;) tahnks
[17:06] <fsphil> I used 1.5 on orion, slight speed up :)
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[17:06] <HA7018SWL> One more: What is Receive Filter BW, can I let it on Auto?
[17:06] <eroomde> Guns of Navarone just started
[17:06] <eroomde> yessssss
[17:07] <fsphil> auto should do .. it should be 300 hz
[17:07] <fsphil> if auto sets something else then you might need to go manual
[17:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> I got it on auto here and its 300
[17:07] <Lunar_Lander> no, nothing
[17:07] <Lunar_Lander> that can't be
[17:07] <fsphil> selecting the payload and pressing autoconfigure will get most of it
[17:08] <HA7018SWL> And what does it mean, this setting, I don't know
[17:08] <eroomde> richard harris's australian accent is completely amazing. it has nothing to do with austrialian at all
[17:08] <DL5SFI_Steffen> hmm My version of DL-FLDIGI looks very different than here http://s.gullipics.com/image/n/7/u/5yvddc-k1zfd4-wcu/Bildschirmfotovom20131228175935.png
[17:08] <DL5SFI_Steffen> I have the version: 3:21:50 .... is there something newer?
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[17:09] <mclane> dl5sfi_steffen: increase your bandwidth
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[17:10] <DL5SFI_Steffen> the program interface looks different! wait a moment
[17:10] <mclane> ah sorry, that was lunars picture
[17:11] <solarballoonman> Looks like cloudy has been in float for about 30 mins. Snow looks to be in a dive.
[17:12] <YO9ICT> Any news on SNOW? Did it landed?
[17:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> wow Cloudy just jumped
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[17:13] <solarballoonman> Spacenear has snow at 3256m, at last location track.
[17:13] <Lunar_Lander> ?
[17:14] <daveake> jumped?
[17:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> in freq
[17:14] <daveake> B-35 - http://imgur.com/G6im3Vg
[17:14] <DJ2SEA> frequency went down by 100 Hz or so
[17:14] <Lunar_Lander> to where?
[17:14] <mclane> starting to receive cloudy - still very faint
[17:14] <daveake> strange. It's not doing any cutdowns for a while yet
[17:15] <Lunar_Lander> OZ1SKY_Brian, your frequency?
[17:15] <uy0ll> SP9UOB Tom, congrats! 600km far from me, good copy
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[17:15] <G8APZ> Lost sigs from B-36 just hearing faintly
[17:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 434.198.5 @1260Hz
[17:15] <Herman-PB0AHX> oeps red lines now from CLOUDY
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[17:15] <DJ2SEA> Indeed very strange. Frequency faded slowly down for quite some time and out of a sudden made this 100 Hz step.
[17:16] <PA3WEG> Upu: could not reach some listeners near landing site
[17:16] <PA3WEG> My brother is away, but it should be in his back yard
[17:16] <daveake> It's an NTX2B; wouldn't expect any jumps
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[17:16] <daveake> Maybe the TC is struggling
[17:16] <DJ2SEA> I guess it's time to turn on the lights now, isn't it?
[17:16] <fsphil> is the LED on?
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[17:16] <claudix> Damn... it's so boring living in Barcelona, far away from the action! Hope there's some north wind to make CLOUDY go to the south :D
[17:17] <fsphil> the images are quite red
[17:17] <sa6bss> B35 burst?
[17:17] <bbjunkie> There appears to be a light in a few of CLOUDY's pictures, perhaps a planet?
[17:17] <gwosty> I see the red light too
[17:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> Looks like it explains some of the freq. changes as well
[17:18] <daveake> Yes the LED will be on
[17:19] <fsphil> bbjunkie: the white dot is venus
[17:19] <fsphil> there are some city lights visible too
[17:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-34 and B-35 are sharing bandwidth again as the temp changes
[17:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah um take that back maybe its B-36 getting in on the act ?
[17:20] <fsphil> aww it burst
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[17:20] <bbjunkie> fsphil I admire your astronomy skillz :D
[17:20] <G8JNJ> Cloudy still visible on the WEBSDR but no decodes for a long time RTTY not very good for weak S/N
[17:20] <G8APZ> B-34 is on 434.5007 with bips on 1000
[17:21] <fsphil> not much else it could be bbjunkie :)
[17:22] <fsphil> I gotta launch something before the holidays are up
[17:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> I think B-36 is now lower in freq 434.502.500
[17:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-35 is 434.498.600
[17:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> b-34 on 434.500.500
[17:23] <jcoxon> hmmm someone needs to find seba6 soon
[17:23] <jcoxon> as i suspect SP9UOB will soon go out of range
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[17:23] <fsphil> bah, new years eve -- it's avoiding people, http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=3ca6c0c82c656dd762cd87735ae918c305f104e9
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[17:24] <fsphil> no sign of seba6 here at all
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[17:26] <solarballoonman> Looks like B35 is headding for a splashdown. :)
[17:26] <fsphil> tomorrow, http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=e09a882b25bb300c1f5fcc91a26f9872e8d56b89
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[17:26] <Lunar_Lander> this flight is not nice to me
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[17:27] <solarballoonman> O.O
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[17:27] <DL7AD> good evening
[17:27] <bbjunkie> fsphil - u got another launch soon?
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[17:28] <Lunar_Lander> I think a better antenna is due
[17:28] <fsphil> bbjunkie: hoping so
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[17:28] <bbjunkie> excellent :) you are the only source of decent HAB signals in these parts ;)
[17:29] <fsphil> lol
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[17:29] <fsphil> I was hoping to launch on christmas eve but the preditions where awful
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[17:29] <fsphil> still not great
[17:29] <bbjunkie> ah k
[17:29] <daveake> Too much chance of being hit by Santa
[17:29] <solarballoonman> Spacenear looks to have lost snow. No new positions for some time. Hope it landed on land.
[17:29] <solarballoonman> lol
[17:30] <daveake> SNOW lost GPS
[17:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup B-36 also dropping in freq now on 434.501.800
[17:30] <bbjunkie> well, if the funcube team ever get their finger out and get this dongle to me I should be able to provide you some decent tracking support - considering mast mounting it with a usb extender back to shack
[17:30] <iz2kzv> cloudy pictures are getting boring
[17:31] <daveake> silly rotating earth
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[17:31] <fsphil> that would be nice
[17:31] <iz2kzv> isn't the sun rotating?
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[17:31] <mclane> I can hear cloudy but no decode yet
[17:32] <PA3WEG> im on ANU now
[17:32] <es5nhc> Uhoh... B35 burst??
[17:33] <DL7AD> es5nhc: yes
[17:33] <DL7AD> have to set up my station
[17:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> $$CLOUDY,580,17:33:15,51.47557,9.82677,33938,313,103,10*194E
[17:33] <DL7AD> mclane: on my fm handheld i cant hear anything
[17:33] <solarballoonman> B35 MIGHT have a chance of being recoverd. It's heading towards the oil/gas fields.
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[17:34] <mclane> I have a small yagi, habamp + fcd
[17:34] <Willdude123> Not sure if one of my setting is wrong here or what
[17:34] <SpeedEvil> solarballoonman: Or a massive boost if it crosses flare stacks.
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[17:34] <mclane> and you need to go to USB dl7ad
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[17:35] <DL7AD> mclane: i cant because my station is not set up
[17:35] <arko> woah
[17:35] <arko> 3 habs from leo i see
[17:35] <arko> the map is freaking out on my computer
[17:36] <GMT> is B35 a record for Leo ... the highest he's flown?
[17:37] <solarballoonman> SpeedEvil: true, although if it's low enough it could have it's chute burned up.
[17:37] <arko> daveake: haha love the pirate flag
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[17:37] <cm13g09> chrisstubbs: it appears my desk has been tidied
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[17:37] <daveake> hah arko :)
[17:37] <tweetBot> @daveake: CLOUDY zipping across Germany at autobahn speeds of ~320kph. Unsurprisingly we aren't chasing! #raspberrypi #UKHAS http://t.co/kfHpaSmq4j
[17:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> Still decding B-34 but all the pips have faded out
[17:38] <solarballoonman> Help! Link to vid/pics please.
[17:38] <uy0ll> SP9UOB distance 700km : $$$$SP9UOB,1435,173713,48.30120,45.22120,37653,-8392,274,92,-39,252013,192,9b*DC4B
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[17:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: THANKS
[17:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://ssdv.habhub.org/CLOUDY
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[17:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: its going out of Your range
[17:38] <jcoxon> uy0ll, good work!
[17:39] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: thats 10 mW out only !
[17:39] <DL7AD> even i could not chanse CLOUDY anymore with my airplane :P
[17:39] <DL7AD> *chase
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[17:39] <uy0ll> Hm-m, it's looks like GS35B
[17:39] <kb0ylq> am i seeing this correctly? You have 6 baloons launched at the same time?
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[17:40] <solarballoonman> Wow! 320 Kph = 198 Mph.
[17:40] <daveake> Yep. Has been over 200mp
[17:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> Payloads not quite as many balloons!
[17:40] <daveake> h
[17:40] <uy0ll> SP9UOB I'll send screenshot and wav files some later
[17:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: cool, if You loose range - can You switch to 21.115 MHZ ?
[17:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Cloudy still S5 here
[17:41] <kb0ylq> Its verry nice. I went to the raspberry pi site and found the links to the event. Then i browsed arund and found this map. Verry nice job!
[17:41] <solarballoonman> daveake: You would need a supercar (Ferrari/ Lambo, etc) to chase it at those speeds.
[17:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> Cloudy is wery weak here
[17:42] <daveake> and a straight road in the right direction
[17:42] <radim_OM2AMR_> what is CLOUDY QRG now please ?
[17:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> Only B-34 still visible for me 35/36 have gone 35 down 36 ??
[17:42] <PE2G> B-34's freq is drifting toward B-35's
[17:42] <iz2kzv> will cloudy enter Poland or Czech Republic...?
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[17:42] <daveake> After the drop it's a bit of an angle
[17:42] <daveake> at a &
[17:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> They actuakky swapped channels! also B-36 was dropping rapidly but has faded out for me
[17:43] Nick change: KipK_away -> KipK
[17:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> radim_OM2AMR_: 434.19797
[17:44] <radim_OM2AMR_> ynx tomek
[17:44] <radim_OM2AMR_> tnx
[17:44] <DL7AD> SP9UOB-Tom: how long is your balloon supposed to stay alive?
[17:44] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL7AD: 3 days at least (HF)
[17:44] <kb0ylq> What will happen if the baloon pops over the US or the ocean? Is there a safeguard in place to deflate or pop the baloon on demand?
[17:44] <DL7AD> SP9UOB-Tom: impressive
[17:44] <uy0ll> SP9UOB Yes, I tried to copy SABE-6, but GPS sometime do not work, so I switch to UHF. Unfortunately I have go to trip after 2 hours
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[17:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: yes i know - i've got mail
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[17:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: thanks for the effort :-)
[17:46] <fsphil> jupiter is rising, may be visible in images shortly
[17:47] <uy0ll> Someone sending APRS packets every 30sec on same freq (437.600) Uggrr-r!!! :(
[17:47] <Willdude123> ping Neil_M0CJM
[17:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: ham spitit... ech...
[17:48] <PE2G> 434.499.6 MHz B-34 is on the higher freq: http://s12.postimg.org/ezj2xg94d/Screen1282.jpg
[17:48] <SQ5NWI> uy0ll: even without these few probably last frames on UHF you did a great job for Tom's balloon mission and foru our fun!
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[17:49] <Willdude123> I need some help debugging my radio. I don't suppose you could help me by listening to see if you can hear me on a repeater input freq? And seeing if I'm txing a tone
[17:49] <jcoxon> hablab valve is open
[17:49] <Willdude123> g8gtz: you around?
[17:49] <cm13g09> Willdude123: which repeater?
[17:50] <uy0ll> Yes, but it vy dificult. Our "friend" trying to tune freq for better jumming.
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[17:50] <Willdude123> cm13g09: GB3ET
[17:51] <Willdude123> And FN#
[17:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> uy0ll it could be a satellite you hear
[17:51] <uy0ll> SP9UOB distance 754km: $$$$SP9UOB,1469,175014,48.27900,45.97638,37715,-8399,259,90,-38,252179,180,9b*B92E
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[17:51] <cm13g09> Willdude123: hmm - nothing I can do there - sorry
[17:51] <cm13g09> not in my list and therefore not in the "nearest 10 repeaters"
[17:51] <uy0ll> OZ1SKY perhaps
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[17:53] <YO9ICT> After UY0LL, no one...
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[17:54] <uy0ll> YO9ICT I'm still alive!
[17:54] <es5nhc> Crossing into Kazakhstan
[17:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> YO9ICT yes Borat is ready to track :-)
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[17:56] <solarballoonman> Who's tracking near Rushden and Higham Rugby club?
[17:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: You are in one of first places in reception range records
[17:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: http://www.arhab.org/#
[17:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp1exb: czesc Adam
[17:56] <uy0ll> Signal decreasing to noise. Distance 775km $$$$SP9UOB,1482,175544,48.27562,46.30452,37724,-8398,267,90,-38,252167,152,b*3D65
[17:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: 2nd place!
[17:57] <uy0ll> SP9UOB TXing STOPPED!
[17:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: morse?
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[17:58] <uy0ll> No! No any signal. Txing stopped after that string:"$$$$SP9UOB,14"
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[17:58] <Willdude123> Well this is annoying
[17:58] <uy0ll> Previous message was bad checksum: $$$$SP9UOB,1483175604,48.27553,46.32446,37724,-8398,268,90,-38,52163,142,9b*3586
[17:58] <es5nhc> Kazakhs shot it down?
[17:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: Can You retune to HF ?
[17:59] <uy0ll> I'll try
[17:59] <solarballoonman> uy011: shame, hope you get it back.
[17:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right gone for food afk
[17:59] <uy0ll> It looks like a battery died
[18:00] <es5nhc> Last decoded voltage was 1.61
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[18:00] <solarballoonman> NOT GOOD. :( :(
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[18:01] <es5nhc> SEBA6, last update 17:07 UT, battery 7.79V
[18:01] <ike> are there any websdr that I can hear any B3* http://websdr.org/
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[18:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: it could be in brown-out reset state
[18:02] <PE2G> A partial decode from: $$B-36,299,175908,131228,'2.75C",1.85384/1861210
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[18:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Loosing Cloudy now
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[18:03] <uy0ll> My UHF reciever stiil tuned. I trying HF, not found yet
[18:03] <SP9UOB-Tom> according to: http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/dcfafd51a458b637a94d6e71d0d83faa#g/altitude,temperature_internal,battery
[18:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> battery is dead (caused by cold)
[18:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: 21.115
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[18:06] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, now we go hunting on globaltuners...
[18:06] <uy0ll> Yes, i know, My HF transceiver on 21.115. I can't found signal with 100Hz filter where I decoded last transmition from SABE-6. Trying 1.7kHz filter
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[18:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> uy0ll: open filter - 2.4 kHZ
[18:07] <Willdude123> How odd, I currently can't receive GB3FN at all
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[18:14] <mclane> some partial decodes now
[18:14] <uy0ll> Yagi 4 el in correct direction - no signal, sri
[18:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SP9UOB-Tom It was a realy good flight, and the 21MHz beacon was working great up here
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[18:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> so we are waiting for morning
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[18:15] <sp1exb> SP9UOB czesc Tomek ale przygoda, zaraz bedzie Kazachstan
[18:15] <DL7AD> on which frequency is clody transmitting?
[18:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> When the e-layer returns, there is a chance to hear it again on 21.
[18:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp1exb: nie bedzie - UHF nie dziala, a HF u nie slychac
[18:16] <sp1exb> cloudy 434,200
[18:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> OZ1SKY_Brian: i hope so
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[18:16] <mclane> when will cloudy be dropped?
[18:16] <daveake> longitude of 20
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[18:17] <sp1exb> SP9UOB a sa gdzies w Azji zdalne odbiorniki?
[18:17] <mclane> ok, then still some way to go
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[18:17] <daveake> yes, enen at 300kph !
[18:17] <daveake> even
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[18:18] <M0UKD> Hi
[18:19] <x-f> hi
[18:19] <SP9UOB-Tom> sp1exb: i dont think so
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[18:19] <x-f> perhaps Polish trackers will be able to pick up WANNAB1 silent transmitter
[18:20] <sp1exb> anybody knows any web sdr receivers in Asia ?
[18:20] <es5nhc> x-f... will you try picking up cloudy before it falls=
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[18:20] <x-f> sure
[18:20] <es5nhc> Although this ESE track has made reception less likely
[18:21] <x-f> it might be too low though
[18:21] <x-f> yeah
[18:21] <kb0ylq> i asked earlier if these baloons are programed or if there is a way to control when the baloon bursts?
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[18:22] <jcoxon> kb0ylq, they burst on their own
[18:22] <jcoxon> but we try and manipulate it so that they float longer and further
[18:23] <jcoxon> using particular brands of balloons and careful calculations of ascent rates etc
[18:23] <jcoxon> that said hablab is testing a valve mechanism
[18:23] <jcoxon> to vent gas
[18:24] <SpeedEvil> kb0ylq: In general, bursts of an elastic balloon require it to go past the elastic regimen, and then be stretched too far.
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[18:24] <PD0RKC> jcoxon tnx info!
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[18:24] <SpeedEvil> kb0ylq: If you balance stuff just right, they can 'float' - at a more or less constant altitude. For any given latex balloon, this tends to result whenever you launch it and it's ascending too fast
[18:24] <SpeedEvil> too slow
[18:25] <SpeedEvil> That is - below a given limit
[18:25] <sp1exb> jcoxon how the camera from CLOUDY will be released on parachute above Poland?
[18:26] <daveake> At longitude 20
[18:26] <sp1exb> ok, we'll see :)
[18:27] <jcoxon> ping RocketBoy
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[18:27] <jcoxon> and ping Upu
[18:28] <daveake> Upu is still driving home
[18:28] <jcoxon> fair point
[18:28] <daveake> Be another 2 hours before he gets home
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[18:28] <kb0ylq> Thanks Speedevil
[18:28] <jcoxon> was wondering if we could take off Wannab1
[18:28] <daveake> ah yeah do it
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[18:28] <daveake> And SLEET if that's on there
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[18:29] <SQ5NWI> sp1exb: Global Tuners in Hong Kong - working, but still too far.
[18:29] <kb0ylq> I always heard that before about the latex bursting on their own. The reason i was asking cause it looks like you are loosing one in the ocean.
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[18:31] <kb0ylq> dont mean the ocean specifically but the north sea, b35 looks like its coming in.
[18:31] <jcoxon> kb0ylq, lots of experiements going on, trying to stop them bursting but often it doesn't work
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[18:32] <jcoxon> number10, do you know if hablab will dump ballast early if it descends too low?
[18:32] <es5nhc> Would it make sense to remove SP9UOB too given its UHF battery is now empty?
[18:32] <kb0ylq> We have a club north of here about 50 miles that do baloons and rocket launches. I have always wanted to go up and see them set something off, but they never announce the events in their emails with any notice.
[18:33] <G8APZ> OZ1SKY Brian, it looks as if you will have loads of signals soon!
[18:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Cloudy just dont want to let go, now its back up here again
[18:33] <LeoBodnar> what are the details of ANU and HABLAB? I've been offline most of the day :D
[18:33] <jcoxon> es5nhc, its not cluttering up the map as much as the others
[18:34] <es5nhc> ok
[18:34] <jcoxon> LeoBodnar, hablab is testing a valve
[18:34] <jcoxon> which has vented (a little too much)
[18:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> G8APZ yes im gonna have a problem with decoding all those payloads
[18:34] <DutchMillbt> HABLAB 434.642
[18:34] <jcoxon> anu is going for a standard float i think
[18:34] <PD0RKC> OZ1SKY Hi Brian whats the signalstrength?
[18:34] <G8APZ> ANU 434.350
[18:34] <LeoBodnar> what size were they?
[18:34] <es5nhc> Anu is also a nice female name here in Estonia...
[18:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PD0RKC up to S3 qsb
[18:35] <DutchMillbt> .. map looks like a airraid
[18:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PD0RKC S4 now
[18:35] <LeoBodnar> jcoxon: did you have a closed control loop or just vent off ?
[18:35] <x-f> DutchMillbt, there were things dropped from payloads too..
[18:35] <PD0RKC> SKY I also could not get strong signals today but enough to pass some data to the server.
[18:36] <jcoxon> i'm not sure - i didn't go to the launch today
[18:36] <es5nhc> Looks like CLOUDY will soon enter Czech Republic briefly
[18:36] <jcoxon> i think there is some sort of feedback loop
[18:36] <LeoBodnar> ah
[18:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DutchMillbt it reminds me of the movie wargames :-)
[18:36] <es5nhc> Eh... you're using pirate flag for Czech republic!
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[18:36] <daveake> I didn't put in a flag for the Czech Republic :/
[18:37] <DutchMillbt> do you want to play a game ;-)
[18:37] <PD0RKC> Can someone tell me whats the RF power output of CLOUDY?
[18:38] <eroomde> likely to be 10mW as that's the UK limit
[18:38] <daveake> 10mW
[18:38] <jcoxon> 10mW
[18:38] <PD0RKC> TNX info!
[18:38] <daveake> It's a Radiometrix NTX2B
[18:38] <PD0RKC> UK not allow more?
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[18:38] <jcoxon> PD0RKC, not on a balloon
[18:39] <PD0RKC> It supriced me no callsigns have to be used.
[18:39] <daveake> No amateur tx allowed airborne
[18:39] <G8APZ> PD0RKC not in the Industrial, Scientific and Medical allocation. Aeronautical not allowed under UK amateur licence
[18:39] Nick change: number10_home -> number10_M0MDB
[18:40] <PD0RKC> G8APZ okay understand
[18:40] <G8APZ> ISM = 10mW
[18:40] <ebenupton> alright! got the full Pi-rate flag that time
[18:40] <number10_M0MDB> back home jcoxon - everything seems to be working
[18:41] <daveake> excellent :)
[18:41] <eroomde> i didn't know that flag existed
[18:41] <eroomde> but I'm glad it does
[18:41] <daveake> I think it hit between countries according to the geofence data
[18:41] <daveake> It didn't exist till 2 days ago :p
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[18:42] <SpeedEvil> kb0ylq: Broadly - if your balloon requires a mechanical energy force of 1 joule to burst it - then that means that you need to store an extra 1 joule in the rubber of the balloon. This energy comes from the difference in internal pressure and external pressure from where the balloon is. If the energy available to the balloon in rising is small, then this energy may not be available - the balloon will remain below its burst limit. The
[18:42] <SpeedEvil> overpressure inside is enough to compress the gas such that there is no lift, and the balloon hovers.
[18:42] <daveake> Note the feature* that it overlays the flag onto a good image rather than the current black images
[18:42] <daveake> *bug
[18:42] <daveake> *feature. Really.
[18:43] <jcoxon> number10, did you put a vent on it?
[18:43] <eroomde> i did notice
[18:43] <G8APZ> OZ1SKY_Brian Dial freq for ANU is 434.3495 currently with a slow drift LF
[18:43] <ebenupton> I did wonder
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[18:43] <eroomde> every flight's a test flight, right
[18:43] <daveake> It all worked in testing but only because I happened to use the same image all the time
[18:43] <ebenupton> that picture did look suspiciously like your prizewinning shot of the west country
[18:43] <daveake> right :)
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[18:43] <daveake> It does have a surprisingly high correlation
[18:43] <es5nhc> Do now German again, then Czech and then PL, right
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[18:44] <daveake> Yes, every time that it notices a border crossing
[18:44] <es5nhc> So border data is in rather good resolution?
[18:44] <ebenupton> ...and back in Germany. Damn Austro-Hungarian empire.
[18:45] <ebenupton> Wiggliest national borders ever.
[18:45] <DutchMillbt> PD5DJ?
[18:45] <es5nhc> Now entering Czech republic again... and then Poland will be next
[18:45] <ebenupton> daveake - what condition triggers the cutdown?
[18:45] <daveake> The geofence data is pretty crude so don't expect it to be perfectly accurate
[18:46] <daveake> Longitude > 20
[18:46] <ebenupton> and why no telemetry from WANNABE1?
[18:46] <eroomde> i'm not sure hablab is going to cross 54N
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[18:46] <daveake> Dunno; check with Anthony (Upu) when he's on
[18:46] <eroomde> which was the given logical condition for the ballast dump
[18:46] <eroomde> which is a shame
[18:47] <es5nhc> hablab slowly descending, I see
[18:47] <fsphil> I don't think wannabe1 was launched
[18:47] <number10_M0MDB> eroomde: if it gets below 5k it will dump the balast
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[18:47] <DutchMillbt> Hi is PD5DJ looking for SNOW?
[18:47] <eroomde> ah ok
[18:48] <daveake> DutchMillbt I don't think so
[18:48] <ebenupton> so a little north east of Krakow?
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[18:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> WOW Cloudy droped in freq
[18:48] <x-f> Upu said, WANNAB1 is up there, but possibly broken antenna
[18:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> tone now?
[18:48] <daveake> Would be good if someone does go after it
[18:48] <eroomde> that could take a while
[18:48] Action: fsphil would quite like snow, but not the paper plane type
[18:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> Cloudy just rebooted
[18:48] <mclane> signal is back
[18:48] <DutchMillbt> .. its in his backyard
[18:48] <fsphil> uh-oh
[18:48] <daveake> Oh
[18:49] <sp1exb> What's happen to CLOUDY ?
[18:49] <fsphil> image 1
[18:49] <daveake> in that case it might reboot again
[18:49] <fsphil> power?
[18:49] <es5nhc> Sending german flag again
[18:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> rebooted again
[18:49] <ebenupton> do you have a hardware watchdog on there?
[18:49] <mclane> reboot again
[18:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> very unstable now
[18:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> again
[18:49] <daveake> damn
[18:49] <daveake> that's a lack of battery for the cutdown
[18:49] <es5nhc> :(
[18:49] <fsphil> noooo
[18:50] <daveake> which means it'll keep trying to release SNOW
[18:50] <daveake> and it'll reboot each time
[18:50] <mclane> only carrier
[18:50] <daveake> Only hope is that the resistor disintegrates
[18:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> very wobbly carrier
[18:50] <daveake> Surprising as it has 6 AAs and they're only about half used by now
[18:51] <jcoxon> this is a bit of a last man standing situation
[18:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> daveake: -40 celcius
[18:51] <fsphil> the low temperature might have increased internal resistance
[18:51] <daveake> yep
[18:51] <fsphil> this might actually warm up the batteries
[18:51] <daveake> Well it might be warming up with those resistors :p
[18:51] <mclane> still only carrier
[18:52] <fsphil> lets hope it doesn't decide to do a fsck
[18:52] <daveake> thing is, it'll do the >4 cutdown and then if it survives that it'll do the >15 one,
[18:52] <fsphil> I don't think it's automatic
[18:52] <daveake> So at this point I'm not hopeful
[18:52] <eroomde> just to be annoying and unhelpful, which I like doing at time like this, I have enough stored energy in caps dedicated to my cutdown circuits, just to isolate the battery from current surge. pyro cutdowns for the same reason: 1A for 25ms etc.
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[18:52] <fsphil> hopeful for next time
[18:52] <fsphil> helpful*
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[18:52] <daveake> :)
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[18:53] <ebenupton> Dave - let's spec some battery tests and run them in the oven at Broadcom. We can do -40C easily.
[18:53] <daveake> Ah cool (literally)
[18:53] <LeoBodnar> This is actually what supercaps could be good for
[18:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> rtty again
[18:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> its back
[18:53] <eroomde> i even sometimes have the pyro circuit on a galvanically isolated dc-dc converter so the pyro lines can't discharge through the case, say
[18:54] <LeoBodnar> they dn't tend to increase Rint as much as primaries
[18:54] <daveake> OK I suspect it won't be back for long
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[18:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> reset again
[18:54] <fsphil> guess this is also a case for saving the state to a file
[18:55] <daveake> !surprised
[18:55] <LeoBodnar> is it attempting cutdown?
[18:55] <daveake> cutting down the plane that we didn't fly :p
[18:55] <LeoBodnar> k
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[18:56] <DL7AD> a friend of me told me CLOUDY transmitted again then some seconds later, the carrier was back again.
[18:57] <sp1exb> the power of rtty was lower, next flowably carrier, now maybe reboot
[18:57] <fsphil> there are dark clouds on the horizon
[18:57] <daveake> yeah it's going to keep resetting till it can't boot anymore
[18:57] <eroomde> hopeless hopeless bot
[18:57] <eroomde> http://www.monetti.net/pdf/en/PRODUCTS_ACTUATORS_GAS_GENERATORS/01/DR%202006%20C1%20EN.pdf
[18:58] <DL7AD> daveake: could be temperature a reason?
[18:58] <DL7AD> so it probably comes back tomorrow morning?
[18:58] <jcoxon> LeoBodnar, can i remove B35
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[18:58] <fsphil> battery will probably be drained by the morning
[18:58] <DL1SGP> hi again all
[18:59] <daveake> yeah this isn't recoverable
[18:59] <DL7AD> guten morgen felix DL1SGP
[18:59] <DL1SGP> Moin Sven
[18:59] <es5nhc> :(
[18:59] <robert-lnx> so the batteries just got to cold?
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[18:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> welcome to Poland Cloudy :-)
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[19:00] <LeoBodnar> yes jcoxon
[19:01] <jcoxon> thanks
[19:01] <jcoxon> trying to declutter
[19:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> daveake: so can I shoot it down :) ?
[19:03] <LeoBodnar> where does it start to get warmer up there?
[19:03] <DL1SGP> well let's see which birds will get close to me over night haha
[19:03] <mclane> Cloudy seems to be in an endless boot loop
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[19:04] <DL1SGP> mclane: Windows Update :D
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[19:05] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar At 11790m according to the sonde for the area > http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/sounding?region=europe&TYPE=GIF%3ASKEWT&YEAR=2013&MONTH=12&FROM=2812&TO=2812&STNM=11747
[19:05] <mclane> raspi is linux
[19:05] <sp1exb> SP9UOB: we have to make a big fire in Poland to get some warm to CLOUDY :)
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[19:06] Nick change: daveake_ -> daveake
[19:06] <robert-lnx> Get a few politicians a podium. That should generate enough hot air.
[19:06] <DL1SGP> mclane, geez I was joking :P
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[19:06] <LeoBodnar> thanks G8APZ
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[19:08] <RocketBoy> when hablab gets down to 5000m it will release ballast - if it doesn't make latitude 54.0 first
[19:09] <G8APZ> ANU still coming in well at 350km, drifting slowly LF 434.3485
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[19:10] <number10_M0MDB> thanks for tracking G8APZ
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[19:11] <G8APZ> number10_M0MDB A pleasure! After all the effort that goes into a flight, it is the least we can do!!
[19:11] <number10_M0MDB> :)
[19:11] <LeoBodnar> sorry about freq clash G8APZ
[19:12] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar hot a problem... I was able to receive all 3 - I can still decode when the freq is 500Hz apart!
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[19:13] <G8APZ> hot = not!
[19:14] <LeoBodnar> cool
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[19:15] <eroomde> what was their relative distance from you when you could decode them all together G8APZ?
[19:15] <Brian_DK> Good copy of ANU now
[19:16] <bbjunkie> another few frames from cloudy
[19:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> its back
[19:17] Nick change: HA7018SWL_Away -> HA7018SWL
[19:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> ...and dead again
[19:17] <es5nhc> "It's not dead, it's resting"
[19:17] <es5nhc> "There he moved" - "No he didn't, it was you pushing the cage!"
[19:17] <HA7018SWL> Just arrived back, is this countinous carrier normal?
[19:18] <G8APZ> eroomde I don't know precisely but when they were near Cambridge... I am in SW Essex so probably 80km?
[19:18] <eroomde> ok, but all of them about the same distance from you
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[19:19] <asdf___> asdlfkj
[19:19] <G8APZ> eroomde yes - all about the same dist. each one decoded separately of course!!
[19:19] <eroomde> it works asdf___
[19:19] <G8APZ> Still receiving B-34
[19:20] <LeoBodnar> Nice
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[19:21] <G8APZ> es5nhc Look, my lad, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
[19:22] <es5nhc> haha
[19:22] <x-f> 100 towers in Poland, 71 in UK, 16 - NL, 15 - Germany (on snus map)
[19:22] <db_g6gzh> eroomde: with the intermittent un-synchronised tx and the RSID to set audio frequency I was also able to receive all 3 B- payloads using only 2 radios (3kHz b/w) / dl-fldigi instances
[19:22] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar 303km from me...B-34 still decodes
[19:23] <kb0ylq> you think hablab has a leak in the baloon?
[19:23] <eroomde> db_g6gzh: nice
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[19:23] <Broliv> Hello all
[19:24] <x-f> kb0ylq, it has a valve, that worked a little too well
[19:24] <db_g6gzh> LeoBodnar: looks like MB7UN is playing back delayed APRS and making a mess of the map, I'll send you a log of what I received later
[19:24] <LeoBodnar> cheers
[19:25] <db_g6gzh> I'm still receiving M0XER-6 direct
[19:26] <nick__> looks not good for b-35 propably lost at sea?
[19:26] <LeoBodnar> moxer-6/B-36 uses 2m dipole for both bands and moxer-4/B-34 is 70cm 1/4wave GP
[19:26] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: ha Poland Ruulz :-)
[19:26] <LeoBodnar> it obviously does not work well for 2m ata all
[19:26] <es5nhc> snus = spacenear.us ??
[19:27] <kb0ylq> wow, i just come up with an idea. You all mentioned earlier about there is no controlled baloon break. I just thought if you wanted to emplement something like that you could use some sort of heater filament to burst the balloon. Im thinking of a thin wire filament. Like they use in the old kerosene heaters to light the wick
[19:27] <jcoxon> es5nhc, yup
[19:27] <eroomde> you can just detach yourself from the balloon line
[19:28] <db_g6gzh> LeoBodnar: I've not heard M0XER-4 at all
[19:28] <jcoxon> bbl
[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> SP9UOB-Tom, ah what is your minimum operating voltage?
[19:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> Lunar_Lander: about 3.8V
[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> kb0ylq, yeah, as eroomde said, it's common to sever the load line to the balloon with such a filament
[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> SP9UOB-Tom, ah, so the 1.6 V really were the extreme minimum?
[19:28] <db_g6gzh> I had wondered if you'd done that antenna setup as B-36 was much weaker on UHF
[19:29] <kb0ylq> Oh, well thats a good idea too. The voltage required for the filament for our kerosene heaters i believe is 2 d batteries. they are 3 volts.
[19:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> Lunar_Lander: ah that one
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[19:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> Lunar_Lander: 1.5V
[19:29] <tweetBot> @daveake: Sadly CLOUDY has hit a reboot loop- the cold AAs aren't enough to power the cutdown cct so this is the end of the flight #raspberrypi #UKHAS
[19:29] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[19:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> Voltage was dropped rapidly
[19:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> and then it was shuted down
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[19:29] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[19:29] <Lunar_Lander> the quick drop, the end of all batteries
[19:29] <Broliv> kb0ylq: probably better to just detach the line as ed suggests. You have the added problem of the filament not stretching as the balloon rises. Could cause an early busrt.
[19:30] <kb0ylq> thats too bad. i have been watching the clowdy for a while now, like all day haha
[19:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> i hope that when it warm up - it wakeup
[19:30] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[19:30] <LeoBodnar> does it sleep ?
[19:30] <kb0ylq> thats true too. I like the ability to be able to cut away too. thats great. I had no idea
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[19:31] <eroomde> kb0ylq: definitely possible and people quite often do it
[19:31] <eroomde> but equally people are aiming for altitude, frequently, so don't really want to cut-away prematurely
[19:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> LeoBodnar: gps and tx are of, cpu is on internal 32 khz cloch
[19:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> clock
[19:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> with disabled peripherials
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[19:32] <LeoBodnar> so it shuts down intentionally ?
[19:32] <Lunar_Lander> daveake, do you fly hydrogen or Helium?
[19:32] <daveake> H2
[19:32] <eroomde> kb0ylq: in addition to melting, some people (eg me) like pyrotechic-based cutaway mechanisms
[19:32] <SP9UOB-Tom> LeoBodnar: below 1.5V (batteries was photo litium 3V)
[19:32] <eroomde> because they tend to be quite reliable and operate very quickly
[19:32] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[19:33] Nick change: SP9UOB-Tom -> H2
[19:33] Action: H2 Rocks
[19:33] Nick change: H2 -> SP9UOB
[19:33] Nick change: SP9UOB -> SP9UOB_Tom
[19:34] <LeoBodnar> Tom do you warm up the payload bay?
[19:35] <Broliv> eroomde: do you make your cut away devices yourself or do you buy them from somewhere?
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[19:36] <Lunar_Lander> and ANU is the pinhole floater
[19:36] <SP9UOB_Tom> daveake: up again
[19:36] <number10_M0MDB> Lunar_Lander: anu is just a slow float
[19:36] <SP9UOB_Tom> and down..
[19:36] <robert-lnx> :(
[19:36] <number10_M0MDB> well I hope it floats
[19:37] <daveake> yeah, up till it gets a gps lock, then it'll try the cutdown ...
[19:37] <LeoBodnar> I have seen a slow float earlier today as well.
[19:37] <bbjunkie> SP9UOB_Tom does it get time to tx position before rebooting?
[19:38] <SP9UOB_Tom> daveake: its about 40 km from me
[19:38] <SP9UOB_Tom> bbjunkie: yes
[19:38] <Lunar_Lander> number10, thanks
[19:38] <DJ3AK_det> rcvd fromCLOUDY 1min ago: $$CLOU@Y,3,10:7"43,50.523541(.5!947,3$363,297,10",7*1378 bad CRC
[19:39] <daveake> It should ... once it gets the position, it starts the cutdown procedure which starts the video and waits 45 seconds before hitting the cutdown resistor
[19:39] <daveake> So it's got 45 seconds to Tx that position
[19:39] <SP9UOB_Tom> $$CLOUDY,2,19:39:14,50.51003,18.62340,34235,302,101,8*2C34
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[19:39] <daveake> Unless it manages to get past the resistor part, it'll keep rebooting till it can't boot
[19:40] <LeoBodnar> You need diff uplink
[19:40] <SP9UOB_Tom> booting linux... calibrating delay loop...
[19:40] <SP9UOB_Tom> ;-)
[19:40] <daveake> Yes an uplink would do it :)
[19:40] <Lunar_Lander> btw I am back to x86
[19:40] <daveake> Anyway, a good flight up to then
[19:40] <Lunar_Lander> runs better
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[19:41] <Lunar_Lander> I read others with onboard GPU had lockups with x64 also
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[19:43] <es5nhc> It has tried to transmit Polish flag BTW
[19:43] <es5nhc> 3 packets from 1915 and 4 from 1935
[19:43] <es5nhc> Was talking about Cloudy
[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[19:43] <es5nhc> http://ssdv.habhub.org
[19:44] <G8APZ> B-34 getting out of range soon... 335km away
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[19:44] <Brian_DK> LeoBodnar B-3x are they transmitting every 1 or 5 min or?
[19:45] <LeoBodnar> every 5 minutes Brian_DK
[19:45] <Laurenceb_> what happened to B-35?
[19:45] <ROUS> can any one tell me abt speech using raspberry pi
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[19:46] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar I'm seeing about 2 mins on B-34!
[19:46] <Brian_DK> LeoBodnar ok tnx
[19:46] <es5nhc> HABLAB closing in on 5 km... 5116 m at 19:45:57Z
[19:46] <fsphil> ROUS: install a program called espeak
[19:46] <G8APZ> 2mins 50 approx
[19:47] <kb0ylq> Man, thats too bad for cloudy. It was Great while it lasted!
[19:47] <LeoBodnar> should be packet of two positions 2-3 min apart every 5 minutes
[19:47] <es5nhc> HABLAB: 5020m
[19:47] <ROUS> thanks @fsphil
[19:47] <es5nhc> And it's below 5
[19:47] <ROUS> have u done it if so plz can u give me ur mail id?
[19:47] <x-f> flight_state changed
[19:48] <kb0ylq> I guess ill keep an eye in the sky over here in the USA to see if it lands in our yard and UPS it back to you all
[19:48] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar this Contestia decodes pretty well at low levels!
[19:48] <Brian_DK> G8APZ are you getting both 34 and 36 on the same dial?
[19:48] <eroomde> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23691292
[19:49] <Laurenceb_> Cloudy still transmitting?
[19:49] <es5nhc> So looks like HABLAB will land into North Sea, right?
[19:49] <G8APZ> Brian_DK I'm getting B-34 on 434.4986 for 1000
[19:50] <eroomde> es5nhc: i understand that it will release ballast at 5km
[19:50] <SP9UOB_Tom> im wondering if Cloudy has antenna
[19:50] <G8APZ> can't see B-36 at the mo
[19:50] <number10_M0MDB> some nice pics there eroomde
[19:50] <LeoBodnar> Laurenceb_: it burst the net. There was way too much lift after the B-34/36 experience
[19:50] <es5nhc> Well, it is 4638m and still descending at prior rate
[19:51] <eroomde> oh, that's no use
[19:51] <eroomde> maybe it has failed to drop ballast
[19:51] <es5nhc> that what I am thinking
[19:51] <Laurenceb_> LeoBodnar: net and latex?
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[19:52] <es5nhc> because the rate -2 m/s above 5 km and it still is
[19:52] <bbjunkie> rate is dropping
[19:52] <ROUS> fsphil: do u copy?
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[19:52] <LeoBodnar> flags just changed from D002 to 9002
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[19:53] <Brian_DK> G8APZ not hearing anything, they should be in by now
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[19:54] <es5nhc> No more updates...
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[19:54] <es5nhc> last update 2 mins ago
[19:54] <navrac_home> just got in - the b34/b35/b36 signals - i can hear them but no decode - Domex16?
[19:54] <G8APZ> B-34 is fading at 356km but still decoding! It's pips every 3 seconds then two pips three pips and telemetry packets
[19:54] <Reb-SM3ULC> Ironi of the day, CLOUD passing just by the statingpoint of seba* :)
[19:55] <x-f> navrac_home, Contestia 8/1000
[19:55] <LeoBodnar> thanks for sticking with it G8APZ and all trackers!
[19:55] <G8APZ> navrac_home B-35 is down, and the mode is Contestia 8/1000
[19:55] <navrac_home> thanks - autoconfig on fldigi not working then!
[19:56] <LeoBodnar> Contestia is not an "official mode" yet
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[19:56] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar I have to go and eat very soon! 361km on last packet info!
[19:56] <LeoBodnar> Try enabling RSID http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-32/RxID2.png
[19:56] <G8APZ> Time to hand over to the Dutch and Danish guys!!!
[19:56] <navrac_home> drat - now I'vegot the modem correct the signal is fading fast!"
[19:56] <Brian_DK> G8APZ hear beebs now
[19:57] <SP9UOB_Tom> daaveake: http://sp9uob.verox.pl/pliki/cloudy.wav dying gasps of cloudy...
[19:57] <LeoBodnar> bon appetit G8APZ
[19:57] Nick change: Brian_DK -> OZ1SKY_Brian
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[19:58] <G8APZ> OZ1SKY_Brian Hope you manage to track B-24 OK ... I'm having to leave rig! 73
[19:58] <jcoxon> eeek hablab
[19:58] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar Thanks!
[19:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> B-34 in
[19:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> G8APZ enjoy 73
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[19:59] <G8APZ> 365km from here and still decodes!!
[19:59] <es5nhc> Hablab updating but still descending
[19:59] <jcoxon> doesn't look like hablab has dumped its ballast
[19:59] <es5nhc> Hello Hablab, meet North Sea :(
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[20:00] <UR3PHP> Hi!
[20:00] <UR3PHP> Anybody here?
[20:00] <M0UKD> hi
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[20:00] <jcoxon> UR3PHP, hello
[20:00] <es5nhc> Kabrrrrrr at B34 and B36 temps
[20:00] <SP9UOB_Tom> UR3PHP: lots of people
[20:00] <M0UKD> hi UR3PHP
[20:00] <jcoxon> lots of people are here
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[20:00] <UR3PHP> )
[20:00] <UR3PHP> Great
[20:00] <UR3PHP> CLOUDY
[20:00] <UR3PHP> who can help with freq ?
[20:01] <SP9UOB_Tom> UR3PHP: 434.19846
[20:01] <SP9UOB_Tom> UR3PHP: but is broken
[20:01] <es5nhc> Although CLOUDY is quite toast.
[20:01] <M0UKD> Hi G8APZ ;)
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[20:02] <HA7018SWL> No packets from CLOUDY for 22mins.
[20:02] <M0UKD> Struggling now with B-34
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[20:03] <UR3PHP> So CLOUDY 434.200Mhz doesn't work? Or it work from time to time? )
[20:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2G where do you have B-36?
[20:03] <G8APZ> B-34 371km still decodes!
[20:03] <LeoBodnar> aprs is krazy 2507 km/h alt 17730 m
[20:03] <Laurenceb_> wut
[20:03] <Laurenceb_> you are doing aprs on there?
[20:03] <SP9UOB_Tom> UR3PHP: http://sp9uob.verox.pl/pliki/cloudy.wav
[20:04] Nick change: Broliv -> Broliv-away
[20:04] <Broliv-away> brb
[20:04] <es5nhc> It's pining for the fjords!
[20:04] <G8APZ> M0UKD Hi .. just abt to QRT!
[20:04] <LeoBodnar> http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FM0XER-6&timerange=3600&tail=3600
[20:04] <Laurenceb_> epic
[20:04] <Laurenceb_> 10mw ?
[20:04] <M0UKD> yes hi ;)
[20:04] <LeoBodnar> sure
[20:04] <G8APZ> B-34 376km
[20:04] Action: SP9UOB_Tom is suspecting that CLOUD has lost its antenna
[20:05] <Laurenceb_> wow tons of aprs
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[20:05] <HA7018SWL> SP9UOB_Tom: Hmmm, I can hear the same sound what you recorded, but I'm 325km away. No way it has lost his antenna
[20:05] <Laurenceb_> nice, proper telemetry
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[20:06] <HA7018SWL> SP9UOB_Tom: I think the Pi is restarting itself onboard, the image counter is 1, for the last some pictures
[20:07] <navrac_home> b34 - got a valid paCKET BUT NO DISTANCE IN FLDIGI
[20:07] <navrac_home> oops
[20:07] <LeoBodnar> I think APRS capabilities is exhausted
[20:07] <LeoBodnar> *are
[20:08] <LeoBodnar> have you selected the B-34 payload navrac_home
[20:08] <navrac_home> just spotted i was on b35
[20:08] <navrac_home> thanks
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[20:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> got B-34 on 434.498, anyone know where B-36 is?
[20:10] <LeoBodnar> should be 2kHz higher
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[20:10] <HA7018SWL> Have to go, good night!
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[20:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> LeoBodnar not hearing it
[20:11] <PD0RKC> Can someone tell me wich balloons are alive and wich not?
[20:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2G is tracking it, but seems he is afk
[20:11] <LeoBodnar> it has poorer antenna
[20:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> LeoBodnar i see
[20:12] Nick change: KipK -> KipK_away
[20:12] <navrac_home> Anu is strong
[20:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> LeoBodnar no txco on B-34 ?
[20:13] <number10_M0MDB> are you listening from home navrac_home ?
[20:13] <LeoBodnar> No -55C TCXO, just a -30C one
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[20:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Roger :-)
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[20:14] <navrac_home> yep - fronm near beccles
[20:14] <navrac_home> suffolk
[20:14] <la3eq> can anyone tell me frequency of ANU?
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[20:14] <db_g6gzh> la3eq: 434.345
[20:15] <PE2G> OZ1SKY_Brian: B-36 is weak but decodable
[20:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 2KHz higher than B-34?
[20:15] <UR3PHP> Which program for decoding are you use?
[20:15] <UR3PHP> DL-FLdigi?
[20:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> UR3PHP yes in HAB mode
[20:15] <navrac_home> anu is 434.344
[20:15] <UR3PHP> ok
[20:15] <PE2G> 1.1 kHz higher than B-34
[20:16] <number10_M0MDB> I must have a problem with my antenna navrac_home, only a little west of you
[20:16] <la3eq> tnx
[20:16] <UR3PHP> Settings for Cloudy : RTTY 300 ?
[20:16] <navrac_home> number10_M0MDB well since im only 3m ASL it seems likely
[20:16] <sp1exb> ur3php yes but the tracker died...
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[20:17] <kb0ylq> is seba 6 gone too?
[20:17] <UR3PHP> ok. It's interesting. I can hear sound but can not decode :(
[20:17] <SP9UOB_Tom> kb0ylq: no receivers in range
[20:17] <jcoxon> it might be worth people having a listen for seba6 on 21.115Mhz
[20:17] <jcoxon> just in case
[20:18] <x-f> UR3PHP, is it only tone or proper telemetry?
[20:18] <SP9UOB_Tom> especially in Japan and US
[20:18] <x-f> (by sound)
[20:18] <M0UKD> Any USB freq for B-36?
[20:18] <UR3PHP> mm, I think
[20:18] <kb0ylq> im watching the map but not seeing any activity out of it for a while
[20:18] <UR3PHP> I think telemetry
[20:18] <Reb-SM3ULC> jcoxon: last i heard was a paket nr 26x, some 1700ish km away
[20:19] <sp1exb> ur3php. tracker died, so it is only a sound
[20:19] <LeoBodnar> M0UKD: it's reported 1.1kHz higher than B-34
[20:19] <LeoBodnar> and weaker too
[20:19] <M0UKD> OK thanks LeoBodnar
[20:19] <UR3PHP> you mean tracker in the ballon?
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[20:19] <UR3PHP> or tracker as server ?
[20:19] <LeoBodnar> B-36 uses 2m dipole while B-34 is 70cm 1/4w GP
[20:19] <Laurenceb_> are B-34 and B-36 fixed together?
[20:19] <x-f> tracker in the payload
[20:19] <sp1exb> ur3php tracker in payload in balloon
[20:20] <LeoBodnar> yes
[20:20] <UR3PHP> Aha, I see
[20:20] <M0UKD> 2m dipole??
[20:20] <UR3PHP> thanks
[20:20] <PE2G> M0UKD: B-36: 434.497.9, cursor 2040 Hz
[20:21] <LeoBodnar> yeah, because it does APRS as well
[20:21] <kb0ylq> SP9UOB i hadnt seen anything out of this one too.
[20:21] <LeoBodnar> which is 144.800
[20:21] <M0UKD> and its using that for 70cm too?
[20:22] <UR3PHP> One more question, how can I recieved pictures? Which freq and modulation?
[20:22] Nick change: number10_M0MDB -> number10_
[20:22] <number10_> hu - I have failed to track my own balloon - need to sort antenna out
[20:23] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar I've eaten... B-34 still decoding at 410km!
[20:23] <sp1exb> ur3php: nothing is possible to receive
[20:23] <M0UKD> Im getting bits of it G8APZ not a full decode now
[20:23] <LeoBodnar> yes M0UKD
[20:23] <M0UKD> ok LeoBodnar thanks
[20:23] <navrac_home> nice - ive got b34 - can hear b36 but cant decode fully
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[20:25] <x-f> UR3PHP, it's the same freq and everything, you don't to do anything special, dl-fldigi will decode SSDV automatically (except for CLOUDY now, because it has died)
[20:25] <LeoBodnar> nice
[20:25] <PD0RKC> Im hearing signals on 434.497 beep tones anyone has a clue????
[20:25] <UR3PHP> ok
[20:25] <kb0ylq> wow, so you have cameras on all the baloons?
[20:25] <UR3PHP> thanks for info )
[20:26] <G8APZ> B-34 is under 1 degree above horizon, so it's doing a good job!
[20:26] <jcoxon> i don't think hablab has survived
[20:26] <LeoBodnar> must be B-34 PD0RKC
[20:26] <sp1exb> ur3php: it's a sound of dieing payload , the balloon became lost
[20:26] <G8APZ> 497 is b-34
[20:27] <G8APZ> PD0RKC set mode to Contestia 8/1000 and centre on the pips
[20:27] <PD0RKC> There are two green onces on my tracker makes me confused
[20:28] <PD0RKC> G8APZ tnx info I go to try
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[20:28] <kb0ylq> omg, packet from cloudy?
[20:29] <UR3PHP> yep! packet
[20:29] <UR3PHP> )
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[20:29] <PD0RKC> G8APZ yes selected 8/1000
[20:30] <sp1exb> cloudy works!
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[20:30] <sp1exb> and died again, it tries to send a picture, no position...
[20:31] <kb0ylq> ok
[20:31] <bertrik2> seems like B-34 just went up a bit in frequency
[20:32] <kb0ylq> CLOUDY Time: 2013-12-28 20:31:12 Position: 49.99023,22.3438 Altitude: 35555 m Rate: 0.8 m/s Max. Altitude: 35555 m Heading: 99° Speed: 321 km/h Satellites: 9 Receivers: SP5MG, SP7THR-1
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[20:33] <kb0ylq> SCORE!!!
[20:33] <SP9UOB_Tom> i had faint traces of domex @21.115
[20:33] <G8APZ> B-34 still decoding at 426km! I may make it to 500km!!
[20:33] <UR3PHP> Strange balloon ))
[20:34] <LeoBodnar> this was quite a day
[20:34] <Reb-SM3ULC> G8APZ: nicae, still climbing so possible long range..
[20:35] <fsphil> cloudy still going eh
[20:35] <LeoBodnar> ANU is starting floating
[20:35] <G8APZ> Reb-SM3ULC I quote the QRB so others can judge what range is possible. This Contestia decodes far better at weak sigs than RTTY
[20:35] <x-f> CLOUDY is past 22deg longitude
[20:35] <x-f> or was it 20?
[20:36] <x-f> anyway
[20:36] <G8APZ> 431km now with just 0.7 degrees of elevation above the horizon!
[20:37] <Upu> evening :)
[20:37] <Upu> can anyone hear any Domino on 434.420 ?
[20:37] <navrac_home> evening upu - looks like its been a fun day
[20:38] <Upu> yep very busy :)
[20:38] <Upu> its not over yet
[20:38] <sp1exb> SP9UOB: why Cloudy wanted to shut up above Silesia? And only there? What it saw with it's eye ? :)
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[20:38] <SP9UOB_Tom> Upu: nothing here
[20:38] <kb0ylq> do all or most of your baloons have cameras with raspberry pi on them?
[20:38] <Upu> lol at your balloons LeoBodnar
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[20:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu nothing here
[20:38] <Upu> still crawling up
[20:38] <Upu> ok guys thx
[20:38] <Upu> I think the antenna got snapped off on launch or something
[20:39] <Upu> mind you at least our balloon went up unlike Leo's
[20:39] <G8APZ> B-34 is on dial freq :- 434.4976 for centre at 1000
[20:39] <LeoBodnar> back home OK Upu ?
[20:40] <G8APZ> Upu where are you?
[20:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu is it transmitting all the time or at intervals?
[20:40] <LeoBodnar> lol Upu
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[20:41] <Upu> back home
[20:41] <Upu> all the time Brian
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[20:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu ok R
[20:41] <M0UKD> You are doing well G8APZ I can not get a full decode now.
[20:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 434.420 is full of ISM stuff here, so hard to hear anything on that freq
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[20:42] <x-f> ANU is floating :)
[20:42] <LeoBodnar> 1m/s is still better than the best tree
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[20:42] <Upu> that was so close :)
[20:42] <navrac_home> still got anu at 432km which isnt bad for rtty
[20:42] <SpeedEvil> LeoBodnar: Unless it's an ent.
[20:42] <G8APZ> M0UKD 440km last decode!!
[20:42] <SpeedEvil> A particularly hasty one.
[20:43] <M0UKD> :)
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[20:44] Nick change: heathkid|2 -> heathkid
[20:44] <TeBe> CLOUDY had just arrived custom terminal KORCZOWA at polish/ukrainian border ;-)
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[20:44] <Upu> hang on
[20:44] <Upu> why hasn't cloudy cut
[20:45] <es5nhc> Image from 202823 is interesting
[20:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> a reset falut, got into a loop
[20:45] <navrac_home> 440km for anu now
[20:45] <x-f> not enough power for cutdown which makes it to reboot constantly
[20:45] <Upu> no idea what range I am but decoding ANU
[20:46] <Upu> oh crap
[20:46] <Upu> so its still transmitting ok though ?
[20:46] <G8APZ> navrac_home not bad... I can't get a decode off it... not sure how far but B-34 still decodes at 440km
[20:46] <M0UKD> Got one, 453.7km 0.5 elevation!
[20:46] <SpeedEvil> http://meuk.spritesserver.nl/foto/foto/misc16/IMG_5949.JPG - bondage pictures. (sfw)
[20:46] <number10> thanks upu :)
[20:46] <G8APZ> now 448.9km!
[20:46] <Upu> haha
[20:46] <Upu> ANU @ 645.5km
[20:46] <G8APZ> M0UKD I'm still on 0.6elev!
[20:46] <navrac_home> thats not fair - you are further west so im never going to catch up!
[20:47] <number10> nice
[20:47] <navrac_home> 445km Anu
[20:47] <M0UKD> Ahh, im 10m ASL here
[20:47] <Upu> 310m here :)
[20:47] <navrac_home> ah 7m more than me!
[20:47] <Upu> lol its moving away 1km each telemetry line
[20:47] <navrac_home> 303 less than you upu
[20:47] <navrac_home> 307 even
[20:48] <Upu> thats got to be close to my personal distance record
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[20:49] <Upu> B-34 is 500km
[20:49] <LeoBodnar> wait, CLOUDY is in Ukraine?
[20:49] <G8APZ> B-34 453km for me
[20:49] <Upu> yeah it didn't cut
[20:49] <LeoBodnar> How are we going to get the videos back?
[20:49] <Upu> there is no plan B :)
[20:49] <LeoBodnar> lol very funny
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[20:50] <Upu> some of the sunset images are great
[20:50] <LeoBodnar> and city lights
[20:50] <es5nhc> Sounds like Anu might be missing me to my south too...
[20:50] <Upu> yep
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[20:51] <G8APZ> simple mechanism to let a string go.... have a motor pull a pin out of a ring
[20:51] <GMT> or even light - don't use a ring, just a loop in the string
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[20:52] <GMT> light=lighter
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[20:52] <Laurenceb_> http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2013-12-28--18-43-00-CLOUDY-845.jpeg?u=30
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[20:52] <Laurenceb_> germany?
[20:52] <Upu> there was an "undocumented feature" in the code
[20:52] <Upu> it picked a test image when transitioning borders
[20:52] <Laurenceb_> oh
[20:52] <Upu> rather than the live image
[20:52] <x-f> G8APZ, motors (servos) have lubricants that will freeze up at those temps
[20:52] <Laurenceb_> i thought it was corruption of the video :P
[20:53] <Upu> no
[20:53] <Laurenceb_> http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2013-12-28--18-35-51-CLOUDY-844.jpeg?u=43
[20:53] <Laurenceb_> lol i see now
[20:53] <Upu> 663.5km and loosing ANU
[20:53] <G8APZ> x-f oh well!!
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[20:53] <LeoBodnar> CLOUDY is ascending slightly
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[20:54] <x-f> G8APZ, a magnetic cutdown on the other hand.. :) has never been tried yet
[20:54] <Upu> right best go say hi to the wife
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[20:54] <G8APZ> B-34 460km but getting weak
[20:54] <number10> thats pretty good Upu :)
[20:54] <tweetBot> @NORB_HAB: NORB tracker code pretty bombproof now. Aiming for HAB early Feb, now to sort out this camera... #ukhas
[20:55] <SpeedEvil> x-f: take a nice insulated NdFe magnet.
[20:55] <SpeedEvil> x-f: heat to 140C or so with a teeny heater
[20:55] <G8APZ> x-f something simple that doesn't need much power!!
[20:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> What freq. is B-34 showing at present ?
[20:55] <G8APZ> 4967
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[20:55] <G8APZ> 434.4967
[20:55] <Laurenceb_> wait wut
[20:55] <x-f> 140C doesn't sound easy and not power hungry
[20:55] <Laurenceb_> how did CLOUDY come back?
[20:56] <Laurenceb_> arg
[20:56] <UR3PHP> Ukraine aura )
[20:56] <Laurenceb_> too many balloons my browser is breaking
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[20:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> i doubt my luck as the south downs come down to the coast at brighton :-(
[20:57] <G8APZ> B-34 at 466.6km
[20:57] <PD0RKC> G8APZ I got B34 now also a bit lower 434.496Mhz now data is in the middle of the spectrum just received 434 package
[20:57] <G8APZ> PD0RKC Position the centre line on the pips
[20:58] <LeoBodnar> B-36 is at -60C
[20:58] <PD0RKC> Yes got the center line at the middle of the beeps
[20:58] <PD0RKC> G8APZ but B34 drifting
[20:59] <G8APZ> yes, ever so slowly LF
[20:59] <G8APZ> B-34 at 469km!
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[21:02] <RocketBoy> number10: nice float
[21:02] <es5nhc> Cloudy squawked again last minute
[21:02] <G8APZ> B-34 476km
[21:03] <number10_> it is RocketBoy thanks to your calculations :)
[21:03] <M0UKD> I can hear the RSID but no decode now
[21:03] Nick change: KipK_away -> KipK
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[21:05] <G8APZ> B-34 is 479.6km can I decode to 500km? !!
[21:05] Nick change: KipK -> KipK_away
[21:05] <LeoBodnar> only 20km left G8APZ
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[21:05] <LeoBodnar> push! push!
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[21:05] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar yes, but it is getting weak!! I must put up a 21 ele vertical!
[21:06] <navrac_home> ah my first ever 500km decode on anu
[21:07] <number10_> thats pretty good for your altitude
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[21:07] <es5nhc> ANU is floating I see
[21:07] <G8APZ> B-34 488.3km!
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[21:08] <navrac_home> I've overtaken you G8APZ !
[21:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Is hablab back?
[21:08] <G8APZ> navrac_home yes, well done!
[21:08] <es5nhc> wow
[21:08] <es5nhc> it is rising
[21:09] <LeoBodnar> Upu: how come your balloon is in Ukraine and mine is barely over the North Sea? :D
[21:09] <es5nhc> any chance the ballast came off upon water contact releasing the balloon?
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[21:09] <LeoBodnar> maybe it froze up there and thawed in water?
[21:10] <LeoBodnar> rise of Hablab
[21:10] <es5nhc> But yeah, it is ascending now..
[21:10] <cm13g09> lol
[21:10] <LeoBodnar> what a day wow
[21:10] <cm13g09> today's been a busy day
[21:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Leo know all about "relaunches" :-)
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[21:12] <cm13g09> craag: somebody's balloon appears to have broken your hab map :P
[21:12] <es5nhc> Gonna be an interesting night for sure
[21:12] <cm13g09> aww...
[21:12] <cm13g09> I had a balloon showing up as on for circumnavigation..
[21:12] <cm13g09> possibly 8 balloon in the air!
[21:12] <tweetBot> @daveake: CLOUDY refusing to give up - now updating over Ukraine! #raspberrypi #UKHAS http://t.co/OzlYhFM54B
[21:13] <cm13g09> congrats daveake
[21:13] <G8APZ> LeoBodnar I don't think I'll make it to 500km just 11km short of it. The pips are hard to hear and see on the waterfall
[21:13] <Upu> LeoBodnar Answer : We know how much gas to put in :)
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[21:14] <es5nhc> Time to wake up the Ukraine guy?
[21:14] <Pyropetepete> Not getting any video on the live stream feeds, everything ok?
[21:14] <PD0RKC> B34 gets a bit weaker and it looks like it standing still here above the north of the Netherlands
[21:15] <Upu> I am receiving B-34
[21:15] <Upu> 523km
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[21:16] <PD0RKC> 434.495Mhz B34 now
[21:16] <cm13g09> Upu: showoff :P
[21:16] <es5nhc> Did Anu burst?
[21:16] <x-f> back up
[21:16] <x-f> GPS glitch
[21:16] <navrac_home> a blip
[21:16] <es5nhc> Yep...
[21:16] <es5nhc> just a glitch
[21:16] <Upu> its pretty damn cold up there
[21:16] <x-f> scared me for a moment
[21:16] <Upu> messing with the GPS
[21:17] <jcoxon> seba!
[21:17] <cm13g09> lol
[21:17] <jcoxon> its back too
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[21:17] <es5nhc> eoeõ
[21:17] <x-f> wow
[21:17] <es5nhc> wow
[21:17] <Upu> false reading ?
[21:17] <cm13g09> Floaty Saturday!
[21:17] <jcoxon> i thought i might get some sleep
[21:17] <jcoxon> well 3 people rx'd it
[21:17] <es5nhc> Not sure Upu
[21:17] <es5nhc> coordinates are in Middle Kazakhstan
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[21:18] <jcoxon> its in keeping
[21:18] <daveake> In case anyone missed it, this is Leo's flight toying with trees earlier http://i.imgur.com/A3T5Ei1.jpg
[21:18] <es5nhc> UHF reception was lost at Kazakh border
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[21:18] <es5nhc> so this has to be current or at least more current
[21:18] <x-f> SP9UOB_Tom, wake up!
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[21:18] <cm13g09> daveake: lol - I take it missed that tree
[21:18] <es5nhc> Folks, start making coffee. It's gonna be a long night :)
[21:18] <daveake> both
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[21:18] <daveake> just
[21:18] <cm13g09> lol
[21:18] <Upu> just missed the treee
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[21:19] <cm13g09> to get all the balloons on the map, I now have to zoom out to include half of Russia!
[21:19] <daveake> Leo has an interesting technique for judging lift
[21:19] <daveake> It involves launching with zero lift
[21:19] <cm13g09> lol
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[21:19] <daveake> Then running after the balloon and putting more gas in
[21:19] <Upu> and an Upu running down a field after it...
[21:19] <SpeedEvil> :)
[21:19] <cm13g09> ah wonderful!
[21:19] <Pyropetepete> CM13G09 - bigger screen needed
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[21:19] <cm13g09> Pyropetepete: it's already on a 24"
[21:20] <Pyropetepete> LOL not bignough
[21:20] Action: cm13g09 is considering a pair of 24s
[21:20] <Upu> what frequency is B-36 on ?
[21:20] <Pyropetepete> 60'' is working nicely
[21:20] <cm13g09> heh
[21:20] <cm13g09> showoff :P
[21:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> I've just gone for TWO 24" screens :-)
[21:20] <cm13g09> Geoff-G8DHE: was it worth it
[21:21] <cm13g09> and which ones did you buy?
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[21:21] <navrac_home> 2x34" here
[21:21] <Pyropetepete> IS there any live video feed going from ballons still?
[21:21] <daveake> Get 4 of them :p
[21:21] <cm13g09> daveake: give me the stand to do 4
[21:21] <cm13g09> and I'll do 4
[21:21] <daveake> hey navrac_home WB :)
[21:21] <Pyropetepete> Novatech
[21:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nah the ceiling slopes up here couldn't stack them :-(
[21:21] <cm13g09> Pyropetepete: yeah - would use Novatech, but their selection didn't really offer what I wanted
[21:22] <navrac_home> hi daveake - its been an annulus horribilus or similar but hope 2014 I'll get out to play more - i have plans....
[21:22] <daveake> Sorry to hear that hope things get better
[21:22] <es5nhc> Hablab has not been updating for about 10 mins
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[21:22] <daveake> We're moving house soon (fingers crossed); new house is on a hill with an adjoining launch field :p
[21:22] <Pyropetepete> cm13g09 - ask for a chap called Alex Hazledine, he's my account manager and they do alot that's not online. Plus they will order in what you want
[21:23] <cm13g09> Pyropetepete: ta - thanks for that
[21:23] <cm13g09> that said, considering a pair of the Iiyama E2483HS-GB1s
[21:23] <Pyropetepete> cm13g09 no problem
[21:23] <jcoxon> es5nhc, might need people to listen
[21:24] <es5nhc> Yeah... probably ran out of ears
[21:24] <cm13g09> then I just need the stands to put them on
[21:24] <Pyropetepete> DIY
[21:24] <cm13g09> lol yeah
[21:24] <cm13g09> I would, if I didn't want to be able to move them *anywhere*
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[21:24] <cm13g09> (basically)
[21:24] <Pyropetepete> Scaffolding cleaned up would look cool
[21:24] <MLow> cloudy broke?
[21:24] <navrac_home> i've got the field - just no hill.. with last months high tides i was technically BSL rather than ASL
[21:25] <daveake> cloudy broka a couple of hours ago
[21:25] <MLow> sneding flags only now or what
[21:25] <MLow> just got up from my nap
[21:26] <es5nhc> Now how often will ANU be squawking?
[21:26] <Upu> constant es5nhc
[21:26] <es5nhc> [Mr. Burns]Eeexcellent[/Mr. Burns]
[21:26] <G8APZ> Well that's it for me, no more sigs....! I'll be back another flight day!! 73 and GN all
[21:26] Nick change: G8APZ -> G8APZ-away
[21:26] <cm13g09> 73s G8APZ-away
[21:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> GN G8APZ
[21:27] <G8APZ-away> GN Brian and CM13
[21:27] <jcoxon> anyone avaialble to listen out for hablab
[21:27] <Upu> cheers for tracking G8APZ
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[21:27] <Upu> yikes
[21:27] <G8APZ-away> Upu you are welcome.. it's been fun!!
[21:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2G could you try hablab pse?
[21:27] <Upu> really floating @ 3km ?
[21:27] <Pyropetepete> Nigght all good luck
[21:27] <DutchMillbt> nope lost signal
[21:28] <es5nhc> x-f, staying awake for Anu?
[21:28] <SP9UOB_Tom> WOW
[21:28] <SP9UOB_Tom> meet the Borat ;-)
[21:28] <LeoBodnar> GN G8APZ-away
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[21:28] <Upu> Seba can't be there can it ?
[21:28] <jcoxon> SP9UOB_Tom, need mooore data
[21:28] <MarkR_> daveake: does Cloudy keep trying to trigger its cutdown device, causing reset? Or does it only do if it's inside Poland?
[21:28] <TeBe> will go north to Himalaya
[21:29] <daveake> the logic is very simple it'll try once unless it reboots
[21:29] <SP9UOB_Tom> Upu: gps glitch? dont know
[21:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Borat say Chenquieh :-)
[21:29] <daveake> But it's now managed to get past that so it'll be good till we run out of listeners
[21:29] <SP9UOB_Tom> Upu: have here barely visible traces
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[21:29] <jcoxon> SP9UOB_Tom, i'd say that looks correct
[21:30] <es5nhc> Guys.... õ'
[21:30] <jcoxon> the gps glitches are only 10-30km
[21:30] <es5nhc> SSDV seems to be updating again'
[21:30] <es5nhc> Image 3 is latest
[21:30] <es5nhc> Holy wyw
[21:30] <es5nhc> wow
[21:31] <SP9UOB_Tom> jcoxon: it is about 600 km from latest posiion
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[21:31] <x-f> es5nhc, i haven't slept much past two days so now i'm thinking what to do. probably yes, it's tempting :)
[21:31] <MLow> i see nothzing!
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[21:32] <jcoxon> so its been travelling about between 250 and 300km an hour
[21:32] <MLow> did the predictor just give up for CLOUDY?
[21:32] <jcoxon> so 3 hours to get to where it is now
[21:32] <es5nhc> And now image 4... Sounds like resets have stopped for now
[21:32] <es5nhc> Wake up Ukrainians ;)
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[21:32] <jcoxon> so yeah it fits
[21:32] <jcoxon> altitude is also appropriate
[21:33] <SP9UOB_Tom> jcoxon: altitude was invalid most of the time
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[21:34] <daveake> es5nhc Yes, it's managed to surive the cutdown step so it's good now till the batteries finally die or it runs out of listeners
[21:34] <es5nhc> Aha, OK
[21:34] <daveake> Dammit, I was just going to bed and decided to check the map :p
[21:34] <x-f> hehe
[21:35] <x-f> daveake, why didn't it cutdown itself?
[21:35] <daveake> Probably it couldn't muster enough power to cut the line
[21:35] <jcoxon> SP9UOB_Tom, it wasn't always, it actually was quite accurate when it reported it at 37km
[21:36] <navrac_home> 580km for ANU now - not quite up to upu 's standards, but I'm happy!
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[21:37] <SP3OSJ> #habhub
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[21:38] <SP9UOB_Tom> jcoxon: well its propably visiting Borat ;-)
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[21:39] <jcoxon> SP9UOB_Tom, yay!
[21:39] <MLow> so where do these floaters end up
[21:39] <PD0RKC> B34 drifting a lot now my rx freq is at 434.493mhz
[21:39] <Upu> I take back about it being a good day if you have never tracked
[21:39] <MLow> wonder if there is a posibility they land in the US
[21:39] <Upu> spacenear.us is confusing as hell
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[21:40] <Upu> MLow deepest darkest Kazakhstan at sun rise probably
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[21:40] <UR3PHP> Which antena do you use ?
[21:40] <PD5DJ> Hi all
[21:41] <UR3PHP> Yagi ? or something other?
[21:41] <RocketBoy> anyone hear HABLAB on 434.650 there abouts?
[21:41] <PD0RKC> PD5DJ hi Bjorn I have seen youve been active today
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[21:42] <es5nhc> Someone just did
[21:42] <PD5DJ> pd0rkc hoi! ja was vanavond SNOW aan het zoeken in de weilanden hierachter :)
[21:42] <DutchMillbt> en..
[21:42] <Reb-SM3ULC> HABLAB rising again?
[21:42] <Laurenceb_> spacenear is killing firefox
[21:43] <jcoxon> hooray for DutchMillbt
[21:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> RocketBoy nothing at 650 here
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[21:43] <PD5DJ> helemaal niets.. geen signaal nix.. mogelijk dat hij in de hoogspanning hangt
[21:43] Action: es5nhc tips the hat if he was wearing one right now
[21:43] <PD0RKC> Ja dat dacht ik eerder vandaag al, hij was bij jou daar in de buurt gevonden was donker je zal hem vast niet hebben gevonden en 10mw op de grond komt niet zo ver.
[21:43] <UR3PHP> SP8CGR what antenna do you use?
[21:43] <SP9UOB_Tom> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=382
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[21:43] <PD5DJ> hij is dus al gevonden?
[21:44] <DutchMillbt> .. dat is jammer..wel signaal op kunnen pikken?
[21:44] <es5nhc> Anu passed right over Hamburg I see
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[21:44] <PD0RKC> PD5DJ moet je PA3WEG even vragen die vertelde me eerder dat hij hem zoeken wou
[21:44] <RocketBoy> Reb-SM3ULC: yes it was - ah - duchmill has it
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[21:45] <tweetBot> @daveake: CLOUDY has managed to restart fully, and is now whizzing across Ukraine at 200mph #raspberrypi #UKHAS http://t.co/4ArCcSazVj
[21:47] <M0UKD> B-34 gave up?
[21:47] <M0UKD> Oh no, still there
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[21:47] <es5nhc> With the amount of balloons tonight some could easily run out of ears...
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[21:48] <SP9UOB_Tom> how the B34 signal looks like? Any beeps ?
[21:48] <luxmundi> es5nhc, unfortunately no signals received in Barcelona :(
[21:48] <es5nhc> Anu's radio horizon approaching Gotland...
[21:49] <x-f> luxmundi, you can try some globaltuners or websdr :)
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[21:50] <luxmundi> x-f, oh , how can I do that? I'm newbie :D
[21:50] <luxmundi> i've got a FT-817ND and dl-fldigi
[21:50] <x-f> globaltuners.com
[21:50] <es5nhc> I have gone the lazy route and just use one computer for receiving and one for decoding lol
[21:51] <luxmundi> oh, that's cool.
[21:51] <DJ3AK_det> SP9UOB B-34/36 give beeps every 1 second in middle of bandwidth
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[21:53] <SP9UOB_Tom> nothing here
[21:53] <es5nhc> I like the current prediction for ANU :)
[21:53] <PE2G> HABLAB is strong at 0.7 elevation
[21:53] <RocketBoy> :-)
[21:54] <jcoxon> float for B-3*?
[21:54] Nick change: Broliv-away -> Broliv
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[21:55] <Upu> impressive RocketBoy :)
[21:55] <x-f> neat
[21:56] <RocketBoy> Upu: yeah - but don't ask me how it happened
[21:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu wondering if OZ9AEH need to go out with his fishingpole again :-)
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[21:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DutchMillbt whats the dial for HABLAB?
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[21:57] <Upu> PD5DJ went out to locate SNOW
[21:57] <Upu> but was unable to receive anything
[21:58] <Upu> battery voltage was very low
[21:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh thats a shame
[21:58] <Upu> and I think its probably dead (need to look at that as it should have lasted way longer)
[21:58] <Upu> also as it was a glider the prediction will be iffy
[21:58] <x-f> had it any contact info on it?
[21:58] <PE2G> OZ1SKY_Brian: 434.646.4 for HABLAB
[21:58] <Upu> yes my e-mail address
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[21:59] <Upu> I have SLEET sat next to me now
[21:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2G thanks
[21:59] <fsphil> would it be rude to drop one of these in the UK? :)
[21:59] <Reb-SM3ULC> ea5nhc: wish i was home with great yagi on the foor, might have reached ANU in a while :/
[21:59] <es5nhc> Reb-SM3ULC - how far South are you?
[21:59] <es5nhc> err... is your home?
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[22:00] <Reb-SM3ULC> ea5nhc: stockholm, but right now 200 north i gävle.
[22:00] <SP9UOB_Tom> Reb-SM3ULC: getting something @21 MHz ?
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[22:01] <es5nhc> Aha... Stockholm is behind horizon too right now
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[22:01] <PD0RKC> HABLAB which Op mode?
[22:01] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB_Tom: no, not anymore, been just noise...
[22:02] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB_Tom: will do another try to sit and listen in an hour or so
[22:02] <SP9UOB_Tom> Reb-SM3ULC: sometimes i have small faint traces of domex
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[22:02] <RocketBoy> PD0RKC: USB 50baud 425Hz shift 7n1 RTTY
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[22:03] <RocketBoy> ASCII
[22:03] <SP9UOB_Tom> ok
[22:03] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB_Tom: distance from you to approx position?
[22:03] <SP9UOB_Tom> im going to bed now - it was a looong day
[22:03] <SP9UOB_Tom> more than 2000 km
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[22:04] <PD0RKC> RocetBoy tnx data running on screen now :-)
[22:04] <Reb-SM3ULC> SP9UOB_Tom: you got my mail?
[22:04] <Upu> great flights Tom
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[22:05] <SP9UOB_Tom> 3469.66 km from googlemaps
[22:06] <SP9UOB_Tom> Reb-SM3ULC: yes i have
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[22:06] <SP9UOB_Tom> Upu: Yours too :-)
[22:06] <SP9UOB_Tom> thanks and good night
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[22:09] <Reb-SM3ULC> hum?
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[22:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> RocketBoy HABLAB starting here now
[22:11] <RocketBoy> :-)
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[22:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$HABLEB,1492,22:11:41,54.26692,6.15834,7217,10,,0,D002*1C8C
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[22:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Green
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[22:13] <PE2G> OZ1SKY_Brian: That's well outside the blue circle :)
[22:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> well what can i say, im a outsider :-)
[22:13] <PE2G> :)
[22:14] <Laurenceb_> omg seba6
[22:14] <PB1DFT> W00t w00t
[22:14] <Upu> false reading Laurenceb
[22:14] <PD0RKC> -==== No good decode of HABLAB DL-FLDIGI---->Op Mode----->RTTY-HAB-50 can someone confirm whats wrong? mode?
[22:15] <Upu> PD0RKC can we have a screen shot please ?
[22:15] <PE2G> PD0RKC: Have you tried Autoconfigure for HABLAB?
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[22:16] <Upu> make sure dl-fldigi is in HAB mode too
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[22:16] <PE2G> Here autoconfigure makes it decode HABLAB without any tweaks
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[22:17] <DutchMillbt> PD0RKC and try to lower te recieve filter bandwidth to 50...
[22:17] <kb0ylq> good ol hablab still hangin in ther
[22:18] <db_g6gzh> Impressive - http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/receivers
[22:18] <PB1DFT> PA3WEG: start the heater in tha car..
[22:19] <Reb-SM3ULC> db_g6gzh: indeed
[22:19] <PD0RKC> PE2G --====thanks I forgotten autoconfigure now runs fine!
[22:19] <LeoBodnar> B-26/M0XER-6 Temp: -70.4 C ouch
[22:19] <PB1DFT> hmm reading error?.
[22:19] <Reb-SM3ULC> LeoBodnar: outside temp?
[22:19] <LeoBodnar> inside the payload
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[22:20] <PE2G> PD0RKC: Yes you show as a Receiver now :)
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[22:20] <PD0RKC> PE2G can you provide here url of hablab received data page?
[22:21] <cm13g09> Warning....
[22:21] <cm13g09> What you are about to hear may require me to get my coat....
[22:21] <cm13g09> Heard on local radio station just now: "Our mate Joe Carpenter's been trying to get on the local football team.... Good news is, he's made the bench"
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[22:21] <LeoBodnar> lol
[22:21] <daveake> haha
[22:21] <navrac_home> uurrgh
[22:22] <daveake> Let's hope he doesn't screw up
[22:22] Action: cm13g09 gets coat
[22:22] <cm13g09> daveake: Especially for you: http://bit.ly/1biqD50
[22:23] <Laurenceb_> did B-36 die?
[22:23] <PE2G> PD0RKC: http://spacenear.us/tracker/?filter=HABLAB
[22:23] <Laurenceb_> thats a yes :P
[22:23] <LeoBodnar> No, it's on still kicking on APRS
[22:24] <Laurenceb_> is B-34 floating with netting?
[22:24] <daveake> No that was B-35
[22:24] <LeoBodnar> no nets just pure latex
[22:24] <Reb-SM3ULC> LeoBodnar: B36/36 under the same balloon?
[22:25] <Reb-SM3ULC> LeoBodnar: 34 & 36 i meant...
[22:25] <LeoBodnar> badum-tishhh
[22:25] <daveake> B-34/B-36 are under a 1600 h2 hwoyee
[22:25] <PD0RKC> PE2G ik zie de tracker screen via jou url maar nog niet een grafieken pagina
[22:25] <Reb-SM3ULC> daveake: okidoki
[22:26] <PE2G> PD0RKC: Wil je de grafiek van HABLAB?
[22:26] <LeoBodnar> Two brass monkeys
[22:28] <PD0RKC> PE2G ik heb hem gevonde onder XABEN62 http://habitat.habhub.org/stats/
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[22:28] <PE2G> PD0RKC: OK, die bedoelde je dus :)
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[22:29] <Lunar_Lander> why has B-35 been removed from the map
[22:29] <G8APZ-away> Ditched!
[22:29] Nick change: G8APZ-away -> G8APZ
[22:30] <G8APZ> Lunar Lander it went down in the sea off Norfolk
[22:30] <PE2G> G8APZ-away: Are we sure of the ditching?
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[22:31] <G8APZ> PE2G No, but it was descending and lost all trackers
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[22:31] <db_g6gzh> http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/58399e116f6bad3843688499371c48c4#g/altitude
[22:31] <kb0ylq> what is the valve for on hablab?
[22:32] <x-f> altitude control
[22:32] <kb0ylq> ok
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[22:32] <sq5ktm> Hello! I cannot find ANU specification [frequences] in web - would You like to help me and put some link(s)?
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[22:33] <x-f> sq5ktm, try 434.345 MHz, it was last reported here
[22:33] <x-f> complete list is here - http://ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:superlaunchsat
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[22:34] <G8APZ> ANU RTTY 50/450
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[22:34] <Laurenceb_> is the re HABLAB documentation?
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[22:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> B-35 flight path here http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2013_Flights/B-35_20131228/
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[22:35] <sq5ktm> tnx x-f
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[22:36] <es5nhc> x-f, what's the status at your place?
[22:36] <Upu> B35 was meant to be a netted floater
[22:36] <Upu> http://imgur.com/hlLGCzX
[22:36] <RocketBoy> Laurenceb_: this is about as much as there is http://www.flickr.com/photos/16828840@N07/7375489486/
[22:36] <Upu> http://imgur.com/G6im3Vg
[22:36] <Upu> didn't work
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[22:38] <Laurenceb_> interesting
[22:38] <x-f> es5nhc, nothing interesting yet
[22:39] <RocketBoy> Upu: is that a net?
[22:39] <Upu> yes
[22:40] <RocketBoy> which flight was that?
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[22:40] <Upu> B-35
[22:40] <Upu> made no difference
[22:40] <Upu> 100g with H2
[22:40] <LeoBodnar> too much lift
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[22:40] <Upu> lol
[22:40] <Upu> *cough* http://i.imgur.com/A3T5Ei1.jpg
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[22:40] <Upu> it was very hard to measure neck lift
[22:41] <Upu> I think we need to look at flow meters
[22:41] <Upu> or buy a barn
[22:41] <LeoBodnar> lol did you get drag-along pictures?
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[22:41] <Upu> no
[22:41] <Upu> I was too busy running after it
[22:41] <daveake> LeoBodnar, Sorry no
[22:41] <number10_> quite a big tree there
[22:41] <daveake> I was too busy laughing
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[22:41] <Upu> yeah I noticed how you didn't bother running daveake lol
[22:41] <LeoBodnar> I concentrated on panicking
[22:42] <daveake> I could see you had it under control :p
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[22:42] <Upu> interesting definition of control
[22:42] <LeoBodnar> strategically placed bushes were the ultimate safety net
[22:42] <cm13g09> LeoBodnar: lol
[22:43] <LeoBodnar> "control" in Russian means "to monitor"
[22:43] <daveake> In that case, I was in control too :p
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[22:45] <Upu> btw
[22:45] <Upu> the glider
[22:45] <Upu> covered 66km in a straight line
[22:45] <daveake> wow
[22:45] <RocketBoy> HABLAB is coming down again - weird - which I even a plausable theory about whtas going on
[22:45] <SpeedEvil> Upu: Woo!
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[22:45] <SpeedEvil> Upu: was it gliding well for most of that?
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[22:46] <Upu> it was certainly doing something that approximated to gliding
[22:46] <Upu> at 10km it was doing -4.5m/s
[22:46] Nick change: KipK_away -> KipK
[22:46] <Upu> GPS messed up though, no insulation on it
[22:46] <Willdude123> Is full duplex necessary for sats?
[22:46] <Reb-SM3ULC> Upu: which one was that?
[22:46] <Upu> SNOW
[22:46] <PE2G> HABLAB desecending
[22:46] <Upu> it was a glider
[22:47] <PE2G> *descending
[22:47] <Upu> http://imgur.com/0bz4Tsi
[22:47] <Willdude123> I might get one of these http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/146-437.html
[22:47] <Upu> the current distance record for a paper plane is 226feet
[22:48] <daveake> hah
[22:48] <Upu> lol
[22:48] <Upu> nice record I'll take it
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[22:48] <LeoBodnar> RocketBoy: probably icing this time
[22:48] <daveake> "We wish to apply for a new record which slightly beats the previous one"
[22:48] <Willdude123> So what happened with balloons?
[22:49] <daveake> went up
[22:49] <daveake> some came down
[22:49] <x-f> some did both
[22:49] <Willdude123> Fun times
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[22:49] <RocketBoy> LeoBodnar: could be - possibly slow leak
[22:51] <Upu> Cloudy died ?
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[22:51] <daveake> Dunno. Only 1 listener. Might just be out of range.
[22:51] <Willdude123> Were they relatively sucessful?
[22:51] <daveake> However all the repeated cutdown attempts must have drained the battery
[22:51] <LeoBodnar> So what is the plan now Upu/Dave ?
[22:52] <Upu> http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/d416bb9dd092324f88b02ad4eb4e9a48#g/batterymv
[22:52] <daveake> Erm, sleep :)
[22:52] <Upu> yeah seconded
[22:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> plan is to go around and try another cutdown :-)
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[22:52] <MarkR_> Several other listeners shown on the map in Ukraine, but maybe they are not listening e.g. have gone to bed
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[22:52] <LeoBodnar> will it cut down on thenext orbit?
[22:52] <raspTortoise> this has been epic.. how do you guys recover your equipment?
[22:53] <Willdude123> Why are there no Chinese listeners?
[22:53] <daveake> haha
[22:53] <daveake> Batteries won't last that long
[22:53] <Willdude123> There are loads of Chinese people
[22:53] <Upu> we don't raspTortoise :)
[22:53] <Willdude123> But no listeners
[22:53] <Upu> sometimes we do
[22:53] <LeoBodnar> 434MHz is not allowed in China
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[22:53] <LeoBodnar> it's used my military
[22:53] <LeoBodnar> *by
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[22:54] <daveake> OK night all.
[22:54] <LeoBodnar> NIghty night!
[22:54] <Upu> night
[22:54] <number10_> cu
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[22:54] <DL7AD> hi
[22:55] <DL7AD> LeoBodnar: could you sent the manual to me how to configure contestia the right way? i cant see the balloons in the waterfall even with my yagi
[22:55] <es5nhc> Alarm clock set to 00Z... trying to catch an hour of sleep
[22:55] <Laurenceb_> CLOUDY out of range?
[22:55] <Willdude123> I can imagine they need a lot of military bandwidth
[22:55] <Willdude123> They have a huge military don't they?
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[22:56] <LeoBodnar> DL7AD: configure as normal and select Contestia 8/1000 manually from the menu
[22:57] <DL7AD> okay... but with that configurations it doesnt pick the signals automatically from the waterfall, does it?
[22:57] <gonzo_p> 434 is owned by the military in uk too. Which is why any amateur licencing (repeaters etc) is so long winded
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[22:58] <gonzo_p> above 146MHz, all amateur bands are only seconsary users, the military usually being primary
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[22:58] <PE2G> DL7AD: You should see the bips in between data, just like in DomEx
[23:00] <DL7AD> PE2G: i cant see the beeps even with my yagi
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[23:01] <PE2G> DL7AD: You should hear them too
[23:01] <DL7AD> i can hear ANU
[23:01] <DL7AD> but not the killer b's
[23:02] <PE2G> DL7AD: Are you on the right freq? I received the Bs below 434.500
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[23:03] <DL7AD> ah thx for the hint PE2G
[23:03] <kb0ylq> cloudy down again?
[23:04] <Upu> I think Cloudy is dead
[23:04] <x-f> B-36 is silent too?
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[23:05] <kb0ylq> might be again. I know it was boot cycling, and the last i see of it is about a half hour again.
[23:05] <Upu> no RX
[23:05] <Upu> -69'C
[23:05] <Upu> ouch
[23:05] <kb0ylq> that sound pretty bitter
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[23:05] <Upu> thats in the zone where semiconductors stop working isn't it ?
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[23:06] <gonzo_p> how were signals today. I could only see traces on 434.200 and nothing else
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[23:07] <kb0ylq> -92F. anhydrous i think is -28 correct me if i am wrong
[23:07] <kb0ylq> Been a few years since i worked with it
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[23:08] <Reb-SM3ULC> gonzo_p: hf on sp9 worked pretty ok
[23:08] <DL7AD> PE2G: got it! 9khz below
[23:09] <PE2G> DL7AD: Nice!
[23:09] <raspTortoise> -69C wow, that lower than most mil spec devices can operate.
[23:09] <gonzo_p> I don't have any hf remote rx, just uhf
[23:09] <fsphil> what sort of range are people getting on seba now?
[23:09] <DL7AD> PE2G: its B34
[23:09] <fsphil> I don't see the signal at all
[23:10] <PE2G> DL7AD: B-34 was the stronger one for me
[23:10] <PE2G> B-36 was very difficult
[23:10] <DL7AD> PE2G: b-36 should be 2khz up, right?
[23:10] <Reb-SM3ULC> gonzo_p: i got partly decodes to about 1700 km away
[23:10] <Willdude123> This is really rather tempting.
[23:10] <Willdude123> http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/146-437.html
[23:11] <G8APZ> DL7AD B-36 is on the same balloon, but using a 2m dipole as the 70cm antenna, so sigs are weaker than B-34
[23:11] <PE2G> DL7AD: between 0 and 2 kHz
[23:11] <DL7AD> PE2G: i cant identify it
[23:11] <Upu> btw SNOW was horizontally polarized 1/4 wave with only 2 radials bent down at 45 the wrong way
[23:11] <davo> livestream of arko in traffic: http://i.imgur.com/lPG2n65.jpg
[23:11] <Upu> I'm amazed anyone received it properly
[23:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Willdude123, Why do you think its tempting ?
[23:12] <wd8mnv> i think Leo said that B-36 was doing aprs now
[23:12] <PE2G> DL7AD: Search between 0 and 2 kHz up or down from B-34
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[23:12] <DL7AD> PE2G: thats what im doing
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[23:13] <DL7AD> B-34 is pretty strong
[23:13] <G8APZ> APRS > http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FM0XER-6&timerange=3600&tail=3600
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[23:13] <Willdude123> Geoff-G8DHE: the fabulous reviews of it mostly
[23:14] <Willdude123> Thoughts on this? http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/gain.html
[23:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> Are you thinking of tripod mounting it then, because if you put it on a normal mast the mast itself will be blocking one or other of the beams, you would have to use fibre glass rather than Alu.
[23:15] <Laurenceb_> http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/94167/1387822561/apocalypsecow.gif
[23:16] <G8APZ> Willdude123 it is lightweight and intended for hand portable. There are better antennas out there for mast based use
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[23:16] <Astro_> @Willdude123, I have that Arrrow antenna an it rocks, I have ~40 states using it
[23:17] <Upu> I have an Arrow too, very good but not for mast use
[23:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> How do you mount it then Astro_ ?
[23:17] <bbjunkie> Astro_ via satellite, or terrestrial?
[23:17] <Astro_> via sats, I use the Armstrong mount for most of them, the pass times are pretty short
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[23:18] <bbjunkie> nice n light for throwing about by hand
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[23:18] <Astro_> I've mast mounted at the beach in Ocean City MD to make the SE PA repeater systems
[23:19] <Upu> right I'm calling it a night, thanks for tracking night all
[23:19] <bbjunkie> gn Upu
[23:19] <fsphil> nite mr.upu
[23:19] <PA3WEG> Good night Upu
[23:19] <Astro_> It's nice, you can show up on a hill, assemble in 5 mins, do the pass and take it apart.
[23:19] <Astro_> Night Upu!
[23:20] <PE2G> GN Upu
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[23:20] <DL7AD> gn Upu
[23:20] <DL7AD> PE2G: no sign
[23:21] <Willdude123> Astro_: wow
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[23:21] <Willdude123> G8APZ: was thinking of handheld use
[23:22] <Willdude123> Well, or tripod mouting
[23:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> OK if you have a 4 wheeled vehicle, different matter if walking or bike!
[23:23] <G8APZ> Willdude123 OK
[23:23] <Astro_> For the older FM sats it was perfect, FT-51 dual band, preamp on the listen side, and the Arrow.
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[23:24] <Willdude123> Astro_: why not the newer ones/
[23:24] <G8APZ> Astro when you say you worked 40 states, do you mean you worked through the same satellite repeater 40 times?
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[23:24] <LeoBodnar> B-36 Temp: -74.800 C wut?
[23:24] <LeoBodnar> 200C left to go
[23:24] <fsphil> you what now
[23:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> Wonder how you handle doppler shift on a channalised rig as well!
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[23:25] <G8APZ> That's cold LeoBodnar - it needs a few vodkas!!
[23:25] <Astro_> @Geoff-G8DE, you put the pass range in the channels in order 1-10, start the pass at 1, and has it flies over, move from channel to channel
[23:26] <x-f> which temperature sensor can measure that low?