highaltitude.log.20131223

[00:00] <gonzo__> generate and heat
[00:00] <SpeedEvil> True.
[00:01] <fsphil> like flower power, but less hippy
[00:01] <gonzo__> more eco though
[00:01] <gonzo__> would prefer to mank bread though
[00:01] <gonzo__> make
[00:02] <SpeedEvil> I need to get my AC finally installed for heat at 2p/kWhish
[00:03] <Laurenceb_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_6p-1J551Y
[00:03] <SpeedEvil> Linked that earlier.
[00:03] <SpeedEvil> Glue a gopro to it, hang from a balloon - job done
[00:04] <gonzo__> and wait for the local kids to steal it
[00:05] <Laurenceb_> if it was faster itd make a nice robot
[00:05] <SpeedEvil> The architecture means it's got trully massive torques on those bearings once it gets beyond a trivial size
[00:06] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[00:06] <Laurenceb_> i was thinking for a building explorer or something
[00:06] <Laurenceb_> or covert robot
[00:07] <Laurenceb_> disguise as a rock / concrete
[00:09] <SpeedEvil> ah
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[10:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> Morning all
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[10:58] <fsphil> morn
[10:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Breezy your way ?
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[10:59] <ibanezmatt13> very breezy up here
[10:59] <ibanezmatt13> morning
[11:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> The Larkhill Sonde has been showing 40-50m/s all the way upto 12Km so far
[11:02] <fsphil> the clouds are moving at a fair speed
[11:02] <fsphil> ground wind is not too bad so far
[11:02] <fsphil> it's to get worse later and overnight
[11:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> I can believe it!
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[11:10] <beingaware> darkside
[11:10] <beingaware> you alive?
[11:12] <Darkside> beingaware: no
[11:12] <Darkside> lol
[11:12] <Darkside> im in tasmania
[11:13] <beingaware> :O
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[11:16] <beingaware> haha what you doing down there
[11:16] <Darkside> christmas with family
[11:16] <Darkside> also working HF lol
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[11:17] <fsphil> down under's down under
[11:21] <Darkside> yes
[11:21] <Darkside> lol
[11:24] <beingaware> hahahahahaha
[11:24] <beingaware> whats your local repeater while you are down there?
[11:24] <Darkside> uhm
[11:24] <beingaware> was going to dial in and say hello
[11:24] <Darkside> dunno
[11:24] <beingaware> haha
[11:24] <beingaware> such a ham :P
[11:24] <Darkside> probably th one in launceston
[11:24] <Darkside> im not working VHF.UHF down here
[11:24] <Darkside> only HF
[11:25] <Darkside> and 6m i guss
[11:25] <beingaware> ps, what was the adelaide one called
[11:25] <Darkside> guess*
[11:25] <Darkside> IRLP 6214
[11:25] <Darkside> VK5RSB
[11:25] <beingaware> thanks
[11:25] <fsphil> how far you getting on HF?
[11:26] <Darkside> well my first contact was to barcelona on 40m
[11:26] <Darkside> havnt had many other DX contacts, got ukraine on 10m
[11:26] <Darkside> currently on a 40m net
[11:26] <Darkside> workd a fw new zealanders
[11:27] <Darkside> im hoping to play 6m on boxing day
[11:32] <ibanezmatt13> to communicate between two AVRs, is it possible to do it using software serial or is it better to use something like i2c or SPI?
[11:34] <Darkside> you could use SPI or I2C
[11:34] <Darkside> plenty of ways
[11:35] <ibanezmatt13> which would avoid the most hassel? I2C is a pain in Arduino from my experience
[11:35] <ibanezmatt13> SPI is not too bad, never attempted software serial but I would guess it's not as hard as the others
[11:36] <Darkside> i avoid software serial on principl
[11:36] <Darkside> principle*
[11:36] <ibanezmatt13> hardware serial?
[11:36] <Darkside> sure
[11:36] <Darkside> plenty of things you can do
[11:36] <mattbrejza> are yo usure you need two atrduinos for a start?
[11:37] <ibanezmatt13> well, I'm going to be communicating between 2 AVR chips, little project
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[11:37] <ibanezmatt13> I think hardware serial will be ok. I could just connect the TX and RX pins together on both I guess
[11:38] <ibanezmatt13> doing that, would it be as simple as doing something like "Serial.println("Hello");" to send the message 'hello' to the other chip?
[11:38] <mattbrejza> serial is fine providing you wernt wanting i tfor something else
[11:38] <mattbrejza> you dont have that problem with spi/i2c
[11:39] <ibanezmatt13> I'm using SPI for everything else on the board
[11:39] <ibanezmatt13> But, I'm not very good with SPI so I try to avoid it
[11:39] <Darkside> its jsyt sending bytes
[11:40] <ibanezmatt13> yeah, it always really confuses me. I can't do anything in SPI without a library that does it for me.
[11:41] <mattbrejza> do you have a saleae thing? they really hlep
[11:41] <ibanezmatt13> yep
[11:41] <ibanezmatt13> that's a good idea actually
[11:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Guys
[11:42] <ibanezmatt13> Hey Steve :)
[11:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> Matt :-)
[11:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> Everyone PK? Enjoying the weather (not)
[11:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> OK even
[11:43] <ibanezmatt13> not particularly enjoying it :P
[11:43] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah, awful here...
[11:43] <Steve_G0TDJ> Gusty, rainy, cold...
[11:46] <fsphil> usual then
[11:47] <Steve_G0TDJ> Pretty much
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[11:55] <Willdude123> If I have a handheld radio that I am using on my desk, where it normally is, am I /m /p or nothing?
[11:55] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> If your at the address of the licence then your /nothing
[11:59] <ibanezmatt13> see if you can work this one out: surbmwance
[12:01] <ibanezmatt13> well a bmw is a car. And the bmw is "in" the word "surance" so... car insurance :D
[12:02] <ibanezmatt13> These are probably the sort of daft questions they might ask at university interviews now
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[12:04] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'm glad I@m not applying for a Uni anytime soon then...
[12:04] <ibanezmatt13> :)
[12:04] <Steve_G0TDJ> I doubt if I could pass a radio licence if I had to retake it.
[12:05] <db_g6gzh> I can't remember what sort of things they asked now but I'm pretty sure there was nothing like that.
[12:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I'd be inclined to ask the questioner how the therapy is going !
[12:06] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL
[12:06] <ibanezmatt13> :D
[12:07] <ibanezmatt13> what famous phrase can you get from this (not an anagram) : abcdefghjmopqrstuvwxyz
[12:07] <bertrik> the quick brown fox?
[12:07] <ibanezmatt13> not quite
[12:08] <ibanezmatt13> "The missing Link!"
[12:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Missing ikln ?
[12:08] <ibanezmatt13> :)
[12:08] <ibanezmatt13> well done
[12:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> *doh*
[12:08] <ibanezmatt13> well, almost
[12:08] <ibanezmatt13> it's obvious... when you know the answer :P
[12:09] <ibanezmatt13> A five letter word becomes shorter when you add two letters to it. What is the word?
[12:10] <Steve_G0TDJ> Errr, short?
[12:11] <LeoBodnar_> DigiKey sent in a Christmas greetings card with Liszt classical music
[12:11] <ibanezmatt13> yep
[12:11] <Steve_G0TDJ> Blimey.....
[12:11] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL
[12:11] <ibanezmatt13> off for lunch, bbl
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[12:11] <Steve_G0TDJ> Very nice Leo and Good Day to you
[12:12] <LeoBodnar_> Good day Steve and *
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[12:12] <LeoBodnar_> It's a proper full CD
[12:13] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cool
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[12:23] <jedas> has anybody played with hoperf HM-TRP modules ?
[12:24] <jedas> i'm not sure if it's normal, tranceiver should be in idle mode - enabled, but no tx data and i see much RF activity. Quite wide bursts of data
[12:25] <jedas> despite this, module is working allright
[12:29] <eroomde> LeoBodnar_: I'd quite like that
[12:29] <eroomde> I enjoy Liszt
[12:32] <eroomde> it's very blowy here
[12:32] <eroomde> hope we don't loose a tree
[12:37] <nats`> hi boyz !
[12:37] <Willdude123> My biggest worry for Christmas is that some relative will decide to get me a license-free walkie talkie or some CB radio
[12:39] <Willdude123> That said, I did ask for a walkie talkie
[12:39] <Willdude123> Well, an amateur one
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[12:44] <Willdude123> Decided it may well be possible to get an aerial mounted under the soffit of my roof and just have a very large pole.
[12:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> If you use a pole use a Heavy Duty scafold pole not a light weight one.
[12:50] <SpeedEvil> It's always good to have a heavy duty pole.
[12:56] <gonzo__> will, point the relatives at the beofang etc radios
[12:56] <gonzo__> a dual band hheld for 35£
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[13:25] <ibanezmatt13> I'm wondering what sort of GPS antenna they use in these GPS watches and mobile phones. ie, I'm making a GPS logger for my bike which I can have in my pocket which gets as good of a GPS lock as a phone would.
[13:25] <ibanezmatt13> So I was wondering, are the chip antennas ok for things like that, or the patch antennas you can get?
[13:32] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'm not an expert Matt but I'd think the patch antennas would be beter because they're active (i.e. powered)
[13:32] <Steve_G0TDJ> You could always design a board with a place for the chip antenna and a socket for a patch, then you could try both.
[13:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> I don't mean at once ;-)
[13:33] <ibanezmatt13> Good point. I thought the Taoglas antenna I had was patch and that's not powered :
[13:33] <ibanezmatt13> :/
[13:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> Like I said, I'm not an expert.... I could be wrong.
[13:34] <ibanezmatt13> np. I would think an active antenna would be better, they tend to get a lock quicker
[13:34] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yep
[13:34] <Steve_G0TDJ> Are you just going to make a single one or go for PCBs?
[13:35] <mikestir> once it's got an initial fix I was getting a position well inside the house with upu's ceramic chip antennas
[13:35] <mikestir> in general the point of an active antenna is to overcome cable loss - the receiver should be optimally sensitive really
[13:35] <mikestir> so if there is no cable it shouldn't be so important
[13:35] <ibanezmatt13> going for PCBs Steve. Yes, mikestir, a chip antenna may well be fine for this application
[13:36] <Steve_G0TDJ> Going to log points at regula intervals?
[13:37] <ibanezmatt13> that's the idea, hopefully
[13:37] <Steve_G0TDJ> Neat. What happens when you speed up/slow down?
[13:37] <chrisstubbs> ibanezmatt13, a backup battery will let it get a fix much faster
[13:38] <mikestir> remember a phone has the benefit of AGPS, so an off-line logger might take longer to get an initial fix. You might want to include a backup battery to help with that.
[13:38] <chrisstubbs> ;)
[13:38] <Steve_G0TDJ> Snap
[13:38] <mikestir> :)
[13:38] <ibanezmatt13> :) I didn't know that
[13:39] <ibanezmatt13> I thought a backup battery was there for if the main battery failed or something :P
[13:42] <chrisstubbs> It keeps the orbit information and last known location data in RAM from what I understand
[13:42] <chrisstubbs> so you dont have to wait for it to figure out where all the satellites are from scratch (cold start)
[13:43] <ibanezmatt13> ah I see, clever
[13:43] <ibanezmatt13> So the backup battery keeps it ticking over while it's not being used
[13:43] <eroomde> no
[13:43] <chrisstubbs> like mike said modern phones etc can probably download that over the internet and get a coarse location from wireless
[13:43] <eroomde> it keeps the ephemeris in the ram
[13:43] <eroomde> there is no ticking
[13:43] <eroomde> there is no clock
[13:44] <eroomde> it merely stops the ram from emptying itself, and thus it prevents the gps chipset from having to wait for several minutes to redownload the emphemeris
[13:44] <eroomde> which is the name given to the data that is sent by gps sats
[13:44] <ibanezmatt13> aah ok, makes sense
[13:44] <SpeedEvil> Though batteries can also enable several other good things.
[13:45] <SpeedEvil> From simply keeping an accurate clock running - which helps lots - to periodically maintianing a satellite lock every few minutes.
[13:45] <SpeedEvil> This helps enormously in getting a rapid fix when you need it
[13:45] <ibanezmatt13> yeah, I can see how that would be very helpful
[13:46] <eroomde> AGPS is where your phone pulls that information over a Mb/s phone data link rather than a 50bps link from the gps sats
[13:46] <ibanezmatt13> ah ok, hence the faster lock
[13:46] <SpeedEvil> There are many sorts of AGPS.
[13:47] <SpeedEvil> But generally, yes, it just downloads the data, perhaps with additional corrections.
[13:47] <ibanezmatt13> So, on the Ublox for instance, you'd just keep it in power saving mode using very little current with the backup battery to prevent it from turning off so the emphemeris stays in the RAM?
[13:47] <Reb-SM3ULC>
[13:47] <SpeedEvil> ibanezmatt13: yes
[13:48] <ibanezmatt13> right, I get it. Thanks
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> the lowest powersaving mode will just jkeep the datas stored in RAM
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> With a rough clock running that will gain or lose seconds a year.
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> perhaps
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> typically using a couple of microamps in many designs.
[13:48] <ibanezmatt13> rather small current draw
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> Anything better costs a fair amount of power.
[13:49] <eroomde> read the ublox datasheets very carefully
[13:49] <SpeedEvil> perhaps a milliamp or three for a decent clock.
[13:49] <eroomde> they can be a bit fussy about config
[13:49] <eroomde> thankfully you have a salae which will help enormously
[13:49] <ibanezmatt13> yes, I'm sure it will :)
[13:51] <eroomde> v good purchase
[13:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> Did you get the original Matt or a copy?
[13:52] <ibanezmatt13> original
[13:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> Nice
[13:52] <chrisstubbs> Any student discounts?
[13:52] <ibanezmatt13> got an educational discount which helped significantly
[13:52] <ibanezmatt13> :)
[13:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> Ah ha!
[13:52] <chrisstubbs> Hmm that sounds promising
[13:52] <chrisstubbs> got any details? ;)
[13:52] <ibanezmatt13> lol
[13:53] <ibanezmatt13> Can't remember how much I got off but it wasn't bad at all
[13:54] <ibanezmatt13> I think I'd better search youtube for some videos on SPI, otherwise I'll never understand it!
[13:54] <Steve_G0TDJ> chrisstubbs: http://www.saleae.com/students 35% student discount
[13:55] <ibanezmatt13> that's the one
[13:56] <Steve_G0TDJ> I got a cheap chinese copy (£12) Works quite well although I haven't used it for much yet.
[13:57] <ibanezmatt13> Getting copies of some things are okay, but I think for certain things I just couldn't :)
[13:57] <db_g6gzh> saleae are a nice company, the price went down shortly after I bought mine (exchange rates) and they voluntarily sent me a refund
[13:58] <Willdude123> I got mine for around £50 (student discount)
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[14:01] <number10> six
[14:02] <daveake> Great product great company
[14:06] <Willdude123> Such true. Very company. Much good
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[16:11] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[16:12] <fsphil> HELLO!!!!!11
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[16:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
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[16:37] <ve6ts> hi OZ1SKY_Brian
[16:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi ve6ts
[16:49] <ve6ts> whats up?
[16:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Not allot here, trying to get ready for christmas. Just wanted to check in and see if any flight where up. How are you doing?
[17:02] <ve6ts> unfortunately today i'm working
[17:02] <ve6ts> i'm waiting for a nice day to send up a small balloon of my own
[17:03] <chrisstubbs> Free t-mobile sim with £5 credit (might be good for GPS trackers etc): http://bit.ly/1fBlI3L
[17:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ve6ts sounds nice, maybe it will go trans atlantic if we are lucky
[17:05] <ve6ts> i have 2 more tests before i add a GPS to my next micro
[17:06] <ve6ts> i'm going into balloon withdrawel, i haven't launched a big one in a while, thinking i won't in the winter, it would be hard to walk into a field to recover
[17:06] <ve6ts> with all of the snow around, we have had alot of snow
[17:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Is it a uhf based arduino your working on?. We havent had any "real" snow yet here. Usaly we dotn get a cover before Jan-Mar
[17:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> dotn-dont
[17:08] <ve6ts> simular, i do UHF AM transmitter with a PIC
[17:08] <ve6ts> not arduino
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[17:09] <ve6ts> at my house in the city i have around 30cm of snow and at my cabin, probably close to a meter
[17:09] <ve6ts> i launch the large balloons from the cabin
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[17:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> When i think of canada, i also think of raindeer and lots of snow. :-)
[17:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol i mean reindeer
[17:12] <ve6ts> hehe, well we have deer and snow :)
[17:13] <ve6ts> it was much nicer today then it was for much of last week, today started out at -10C and is now -5C last week we were around -18C
[17:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Its till +C here, so no snow in sight, still +5C @ 1815 local
[17:17] <ve6ts> nice
[17:18] <ve6ts> it's -11C at my cabin right now (i have an aprs sensor there) soon adding a weather station
[17:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Dinner allmost done. Will check out for abit now.
[17:18] <ve6ts> will need the snowshoes to get in
[17:18] <ve6ts> cya
[17:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> back later. bye for now
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[18:42] <malgar> hello.. I'm playing with dl-fldigi.. It seems that the program has only the microphone as input.. and not the internal audio
[18:42] <malgar> (fedora 19)
[18:42] <malgar> dl-fldigi 3.21.50
[18:44] <jedas> you need virtual cable driver
[18:44] <jedas> which will create virtual audio interface
[18:45] <malgar> uhm
[18:48] <malgar> uhm.. I seen that it is for windows
[18:49] <malgar> I use fedora
[18:49] <malgar> I've
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[18:49] <jedas> haven't tried that on linux, but i'm sure some apps are made for this
[18:49] <mikestir> in linux you should be able to loop it back with pulseaudio ("Monitor of Analogue Audio Out", or similar)
[18:50] <mikestir> but some versions of pulseaudio have a bug where they mess up the sample rate, so ymmv
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[19:01] <fsphil> pulseaudio is constantly messing up for me
[19:01] <fsphil> the weather forecast earlier said we're getting the worst of it, but not until tomorrow morning
[19:02] <malgar> fsphil: so what do you do? do you use windows?
[19:03] <fsphil> oh god no
[19:03] <Laurenceb_> haha
[19:04] <fsphil> use alsamixer to set the input
[19:04] <fsphil> you can set it to line-in if your card supports it
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[19:20] <SP9UOB-Tom> evening All
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[19:25] <mikestir> malgar: I had success with pulseaudio without a loopback cable, but only by setting the baud rate to 45 instead of 50, which is a horrible hack
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[19:25] <mikestir> it's going to mess up the filters as well
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[19:26] <mikestir> the specific bug that causes it is fixed in trunk I think, but I don't know if that's found its way into any distros yet
[19:26] <malgar> O_O
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[19:26] <malgar> terrible news..
[19:26] <eroomde> mikestir: that's so horrendous there aren't the words for it
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[19:28] <mattbrejza> btw mikestir hows your sdr coming?
[19:30] <malgar> but I don't understand if it is a problem of dl-fldigi or something else
[19:31] <fsphil> gqrx now has an option to output the audio over udp. an input in dl-fldigi for that would be handy
[19:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: have Your antenna ready for 28.12 :-)
[19:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SP9UOB-Tom what type of antenne this time, you keep changing wavelengths :-)
[19:36] <SP9UOB-Tom> OZ1SKY_Brian: 21 MHz :-)
[19:36] <SP9UOB-Tom> and 70 cm as well
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[19:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok :-) my 10m vertical will have to do then for 15m
[19:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> :-)
[19:38] <es5nhc> Good evening, just read SP9UOB's letter
[19:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it its a morning launch?
[19:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> is
[19:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> OZ1SKY_Brian: yes - about 9:00 UTC
[19:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> nice, should be good for e-skip then
[19:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> it should reach target altitude at sunset
[19:39] <es5nhc> Looking at the GooFuS charts right now... if this should come to my audible range, I shall be all ears
[19:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 15meter e-skip distance is ~1300km
[19:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> es5nhc: please raise Estonian hams :-) 70 cm should be in range
[19:40] <es5nhc> Yep... that's what I thought from weather charts. Even though I will be QRV only on 70 cm
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[19:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SP9UOB-Tom 930km to Krakow, abit to short, but we´ll see
[19:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> But should be perfect for south and central UK with 1300-1500km path
[19:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SP9UOB-Tom will the 21m beacon be rtty or?
[19:50] <mikestir> eroomde: I know. mattbrejza: stalled due to decorating and family
[19:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> OZ1SKY_Brian: DomEX8 propably
[19:57] <mattbrejza> ah yes, that time thing
[19:57] <ve6ts> i wonder what the chance of longer rf for that balloon
[19:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> ve6ts: last time on hf my ballon was received by VA3NCD
[20:00] <ve6ts> cool
[20:00] <ve6ts> well i'm ve6 so a few thousand further
[20:01] <ve6ts> SP9UOB-Tom what was the output power? around 10mW?
[20:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> OZ1SKY_Brian: UK folks was decoded my test on the ground
[20:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> ve6ts: 500mW :-)
[20:01] <ve6ts> oh, much higher :)
[20:02] <ve6ts> my hf balloons tx on 28.322mhz with a quater wave dipole
[20:02] <ve6ts> at about 10mW
[20:03] <SP9UOB-Tom> ve6ts: i have 1 BS170 in PA - E class matching
[20:03] <ve6ts> in fact the UK is closer to eastern Canada then i am, and i'm still not all of the way west
[20:10] <ve6ts> OZ1SKY_Brian, here is my balloon launching cabin from the air in the winter, i didn't upload the pics from when i hiked over to it yet: http://pic.obsd.com/2013-11-10/DSC_1165.JPG_lg.jpg
[20:13] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[20:15] <fsphil> SP9UOB-Tom: oooh when?
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[20:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: 28 december
[20:17] <fsphil> my internet appears to have turned into dialup
[20:18] <fsphil> I'll definitly have a listen
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[20:25] <YO9ICT> hello
[20:25] <YO9ICT> anyone has any expierence with Fastrax iTrax 300 ?
[20:25] <YO9ICT> experience*
[20:26] <eroomde> it's based on the SirfIII chipset
[20:26] <eroomde> so it's no good
[20:26] <eroomde> (for altitude)
[20:27] <YO9ICT> hi eroomde
[20:27] <YO9ICT> tnx for answer
[20:27] <YO9ICT> i'm not making any flight-worthly tracker, just trying to get the GPS module to work :)
[20:28] <YO9ICT> do you have any datasheets or schematics? the web is not so generous tonight :)
[20:30] <eroomde> i only googled to find the brochure which said sirfIII
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[20:30] <eroomde> now, those are all pretty standard so if you google for SirfIII you should find the spec of how to talk to it
[20:30] <eroomde> however, i'd probably just get a ublox breakout from Upu
[20:30] <Upu> I agree
[20:30] <eroomde> we all use and like uBlox, there's lots of collective experiece with them here
[20:31] <YO9ICT> Upu, private
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[20:46] <jcoxon> Ping upu
[20:46] <Upu> hey jcoxon
[20:47] <jcoxon> David miller came through for me
[20:47] <Upu> us too
[20:47] <daveake> Same here :)
[20:48] <jcoxon> got permission for the weekend though that's if I survive the weather
[20:48] <Upu> I'll confer about frequencies when we decide what we are actually launching
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[20:49] <jcoxon> I'll be on .075 that's all
[20:51] <fsphil> aww :)
[20:51] <eroomde> david miller decided it wasn't the season for holding prospective launchers ho-ho-hostage
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[20:55] <fsphil> there seems to be another storm coming for the weekend too
[20:56] <daveake> Miller the CAA mann
[20:56] <daveake> Had to hurry on his way
[20:56] <daveake> But he waved goodbye saying,
[20:56] <daveake> "You can fly
[20:56] <daveake> I'll do your NOTAM later today"
[20:57] <fsphil> sadly he denied Santa a notam
[20:57] <daveake> yeah looks like the weather might be a problem
[20:57] <fsphil> yea
[20:57] <daveake> yea santa had no parachute
[20:57] <fsphil> I'm getting to that stage where I might just launch anyway
[20:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> On SNUS does the filter "Show UK NOTAMs" actually work ?
[20:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Never seen anything plotted
[20:59] <fsphil> I think the data source stopped working a while back
[21:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thats what I suspected :-)
[21:00] <eroomde> we did it as a response to someone getting uppity that a balloon landed in a notam-area
[21:01] <eroomde> as if one had much say over where a balloon landed
[21:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> In a NOTAM area ?
[21:02] <eroomde> yes
[21:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> I supoose the Balloondidn't ask permission first then ....
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[22:00] <Lunar_Lander> hey S_Mark and DL1SGP
[22:00] <S_Mark> Hey Lunar_Lander
[22:00] <Lunar_Lander> how are you?
[22:01] <S_Mark> Good thank you!
[22:01] <S_Mark> You?
[22:01] <Lunar_Lander> ah tired, have been up all night
[22:01] <Lunar_Lander> but
[22:01] <Lunar_Lander> the Bachelor Thesis is complete
[22:01] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[22:02] <S_Mark> that sounds good, get it done before christmas
[22:02] <S_Mark> :p
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> yeah :)
[22:03] <Lunar_Lander> then will get it printed and made into booklets to hand in in early January
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[22:05] <S_Mark> sounds good
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[22:07] <SpeedEvil> Lunar_Lander: Woo!
[22:07] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[22:07] <eroomde> i wonder if one can become a Husband of Science
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[22:20] <Laurenceb_> https://github.com/pfultz2/Cloak/wiki/Is-the-C-preprocessor-Turing-complete%3F
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[22:30] <Reb-SM3ULC> Lunar_Lander: Congratulations! quite a step :)
[22:33] Nick change: MLow -> MLow-work
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[22:36] <Lunar_Lander> thanks :)!
[22:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Lunar_Lander Glückwünsche und fruen weihnacht
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> danke :)
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> you too :)!
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[22:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> off to bed here. Wishing everyone a merry christmas and happy holidays. Goodnight...
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[22:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> mee to
[22:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> night all
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[22:52] Action: SpeedEvil enjoys a nice after-8 mint and almond yogurt.
[22:52] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[22:52] <Lunar_Lander> 7 minutes till christmas in germany
[22:53] <SpeedEvil> Wait - german christmas is on the 24th?
[22:53] <cm13g09> SpeedEvil: eys
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:53] <cm13g09> *yes
[22:54] <SpeedEvil> ah
[22:54] Action: SpeedEvil learned something today.
[22:54] <SpeedEvil> (as well as that after 8 mints in yogurt are delicious)
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> MERRY CHRISTMAS!
[23:00] <SpeedEvil> Happy christams!
[23:01] <fsphil> jolly notams
[23:01] <Upu> yeah happy Saturnalia
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[23:02] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[23:18] <Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/8572348
[23:18] <Laurenceb_> gps correlator channel for cortex m4
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[23:25] <Willdude123> Happy Christmas everybody
[23:26] <Willdude123> Have a very merry chreistmas and a HABby new year
[23:29] Nick change: KipK_away -> KipK
[23:31] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb_: redonkulous.
[23:32] <Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/20kYU1U.png
[23:32] <Laurenceb_> baseband
[23:32] <Laurenceb_> at some point i need to put it all together
[23:34] <Laurenceb_> pity GASP is dead, macro assembly would be fun
[23:35] <SpeedEvil> GASP?
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[23:42] <Willdude123> Grounsing confuses me :-(
[23:42] <Willdude123> I need a book on it :-)
[23:48] <SpeedEvil> #1 - ground is a lie.
[23:48] <Willdude123> Eh?
[23:48] <SpeedEvil> Teh notion of ground as a defined voltage only really makes sense within a tiny circuit.
[23:49] <SpeedEvil> The earth is not a superconductor with infinite speed of light.
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[23:56] <Willdude123> Uhun
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> good night!
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