highaltitude.log.20131109

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[00:21] <Herman-PB0AHX> i go to sleep gn all
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[02:42] <DL7AD> good morning
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[02:44] <DL7AD> anybody here?
[02:45] <nats`> yep
[02:45] <nats`> 4 am here :D
[02:47] <DL7AD> cool.... do you know something about SP3OSJ? frequency eg.?
[02:50] <nats`> nop sorry :|:
[02:50] <nats`> but maybe je mailing list could help
[02:50] <nats`> usually they put frequencies here
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[02:50] <DL7AD> i will have a look in dl-fldigi
[02:51] <DL7AD> but normally hes using 437.7
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[05:05] <andy_vk3yt> u there Darkside?
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[05:25] <wb8elk> Can someone approve my Flight Doc? 0f394ab97ea0e0ef5708ac15ee76903d
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[07:19] <Reb-SM3ULC> arko_-: nice
[07:19] <Reb-SM3ULC> good morning!
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[07:34] <Upu_M0UPU> B-25 should be in in range of M0DTS
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[07:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> *yawn*
[07:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> 'Morning Guys
[07:44] <LazyLeopard> Morning...
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[07:49] <Reb-SM3ULC> It was fairly down when transmitting APRS, and went from 5300 to 3200 m.
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[08:08] <melon> hello guys, check 434,502MHz on http://websdr.oh2lak.net:8901/ (Finland KP20IE) there is some ping, but without dominoex
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[08:22] <Upu_M0UPU> I doubt its up
[08:22] <Upu_M0UPU> looks like it burst at sunrise
[08:22] <Upu_M0UPU> http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=M0XER-4
[08:22] <Upu_M0UPU> was loosing 7000 feet (go SI bot)
[08:22] <SIbot> In real units: 7000 ft = 2134 m
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[08:22] <Upu_M0UPU> in an hour
[08:24] <mclane> 470 m
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[08:28] <moriarty> so what do people do with high altitude projects besides taking pictures?
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[08:31] <Upu_M0UPU> all sorts
[08:31] <Upu_M0UPU> I know they did repeaters in Australia
[08:31] <Upu_M0UPU> people are messing with solar powered party balloons here
[08:33] <moriarty> any remote sensing projects here?
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[08:34] <Upu_M0UPU> define remote sensing ?
[08:34] <moriarty> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_sensing
[08:35] <Upu_M0UPU> nope but always something someone hasn't done
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[09:26] <DL1SGP> good morning :)
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[09:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hey Arko :-)
[09:43] <DL1SGP> :)
[09:43] <arko> ahoyyy
[09:43] <Steve_G0TDJ> Felix ;-)
[09:43] <arko> im about to sleep
[09:43] <arko> its been a long day
[09:43] <arko> blah
[09:43] <DL1SGP> Ahoj Arko, morning Steve
[09:43] <Steve_G0TDJ> I just go up :D - OK well several hours ago
[09:43] <Steve_G0TDJ> Have a nice kip Arko
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[09:51] <DL1SGP> looks like B-24 gained altitude again
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[09:56] <Steve_G0TDJ> Do you think it's still in the air Felix?
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[10:01] <DL1SGP> not sure, last messages saw it going up but that was almost 10h ago
[10:02] <DL1SGP> however according to aprs it climbed from 1300 back to 4500
[10:02] <Steve_G0TDJ> Well that's something
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[10:03] <Steve_G0TDJ> I still think a cubesat orbitig would be a good solution. Use a couple of spot freqs. and have the satellite upload positions.
[10:04] <DL1SGP> well PSB uses that multi system approach, have you seen their site?
[10:04] <Steve_G0TDJ> No
[10:04] <DL1SGP> it's a bunch of HF systems below a ballon http://projectspaceballoon.net
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[10:05] <DL1SGP> andy_vk3yt could tell you more about it if he is still around I guess
[10:05] <Steve_G0TDJ> OK I'll take a look
[10:05] <DL1SGP> basically it uses multiple bands and mode based on a defined schedule
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[10:08] <DL1SGP> Tom SP3UOB if I remember the callsign correct should start something that has HF transmission system in the next 10 days if circumstances permit. we ran tests on several bands for that
[10:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> Pretty cool
[10:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> I've dabbled with WSPR and JT65 - Not seriously but my adio s plugged in ready to go
[10:10] <DL1SGP> I use JT65 quite a bit, but it can get totally boring after a while
[10:11] <DL1SGP> then I switch to other modes :D and yes I even talk to people :)
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[10:12] <Steve_G0TDJ> GosH! A radio amateur that TALKS to people! ;-)
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[10:13] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hey hey Matthew :)
[10:13] <ibanezmatt13> Hey Steve :-)
[10:13] <Steve_G0TDJ> All good?
[10:13] <ibanezmatt13> Yes, thank you :) We've decided on what we're doing for our next launch
[10:14] <Steve_G0TDJ> Oh? Spill the beans
[10:14] <ibanezmatt13> I'm making *another* NORB 3 board
[10:14] <Steve_G0TDJ> :D
[10:14] <Steve_G0TDJ> Put me down for one LOL
[10:14] <ibanezmatt13> lol
[10:14] <Steve_G0TDJ> What's gonna change?
[10:14] <ibanezmatt13> Seen as it logs all sorts of readings to an SD card, and my Dad works in the packaging industry, he wants to send to payloads up
[10:14] <ibanezmatt13> One foam, one *cardboard* :/
[10:15] <Steve_G0TDJ> Okay
[10:15] <ibanezmatt13> He says that he's got some cardboard that will act better than foam, apparently. So we're gonna test it out :)
[10:15] <ibanezmatt13> Launch in Decemeber
[10:15] <ibanezmatt13> H2
[10:15] <Steve_G0TDJ> Are you going to include some sensors to see what the stresses on the packages are?
[10:15] <DL1SGP> do not attempt to inhale H2 !
[10:15] <ibanezmatt13> lol
[10:15] <DL1SGP> :)
[10:16] <ibanezmatt13> Well, the NORB board doesn't have any of those sorts of sensors unfortunately
[10:16] <Steve_G0TDJ> So will the new one?
[10:16] <Steve_G0TDJ> Or breakout the lines so you can add them
[10:16] <ibanezmatt13> New NORB board = just making another of what I've already made :P
[10:16] <ibanezmatt13> But yes, I'm currently designing NORB 4 too ;)
[10:17] <ibanezmatt13> And that will have all sorts of breakouts
[10:17] <Steve_G0TDJ> You could do what I did with CHEAPO and add the header to make VAYU
[10:17] <Steve_G0TDJ> Oh OK
[10:17] <DL1SGP> .oO( Matt is gonna race Leo with Norb-XX trying to dominate the sky )
[10:17] <ibanezmatt13> That's what I'm gonna do. It's a good idea to have a daughter board with sensory stuff on
[10:17] <ibanezmatt13> lol, totally :P
[10:17] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cool, Just what I'm doing with VAYU-NTX
[10:18] <ibanezmatt13> yeah, it's really a great idea
[10:18] <Steve_G0TDJ> I just haven't shown anyone yet ;-)
[10:18] <ibanezmatt13> Steve_G0TDJ, my idea... a NORBduino
[10:18] <Steve_G0TDJ> I@ve been looking at options for adding the Tx on board rather than using an NTX or RFM22
[10:18] <Steve_G0TDJ> :D
[10:19] <ibanezmatt13> A shield that you can attach to the top of the NORBduino
[10:19] <Steve_G0TDJ> Neat
[10:20] <Steve_G0TDJ> I got as far as doing an expansion board for Temp-himidity with three options and a prototyping board
[10:20] <ibanezmatt13> awesoem
[10:21] <Steve_G0TDJ> The prototyping board needs shrinking possibly to avoid clashing with the NTX module. Hence the need for on baord Tx
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[10:21] <ibanezmatt13> ah yes, I might come into that issue
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[10:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> Well, when I've got a viable Tx circuit, you can copy that if you like. Might be a while though LOL
[10:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Dave
[10:22] <ibanezmatt13> Morning :
[10:22] <craag> *cough* CC430 *cough*
[10:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hey Phil - Is that a TI chip?
[10:22] <craag> yeah, fantastically small, software isn't much fun though.
[10:22] <daveake> moooorning
[10:23] <fsphil> mornining
[10:23] <Steve_G0TDJ> That would be a problem for me
[10:23] <fsphil> crappy compiler craag?
[10:23] <craag> fsphil: MSP430 cpu :/
[10:23] <Steve_G0TDJ> craag: I've got a couple of CC1101s and CC1151s to play with
[10:24] <fsphil> there seems to be a gcc toolchain for the msp430
[10:24] <Steve_G0TDJ> Oh I see, the '430 has an MCU built in too
[10:24] <craag> Steve_G0TDJ: Ah right, yeah CC430 is MSP430 CPU + CC1101 on the saem chip
[10:25] <Steve_G0TDJ> I was going to program the CC11x1 with the standard AVR
[10:25] <Steve_G0TDJ> If only Atmel could do the same configuration
[10:25] <Steve_G0TDJ> AT328p + Tx
[10:26] <craag> Apparently there's an ARM Cortex M0+ + ISM TX chip in the pipeline somewhere...
[10:26] <craag> That would be incredible.
[10:26] <fsphil> oh nice
[10:27] <fsphil> who's making that?
[10:27] <Steve_G0TDJ> That would be slight overkill for HAB LOL
[10:27] <craag> Steve_G0TDJ: Half the power consumption of an AVR, but 48MHz 32-bit :D
[10:28] <fsphil> to be fair, the atmega328p is overkill for many
[10:28] <craag> hehe true
[10:28] <fsphil> you could do basic tracking with an attiny
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[10:28] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah, true enough
[10:29] <craag> Or just drive the ntx2 from the nmea :P
[10:29] <fsphil> if the gps module could be setup for 50 baud, I'm sure it would have been done :)
[10:30] <craag> Hmm 4800 baud is maybe still a little fast...
[10:30] <fsphil> 1200 would be tops I think
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[10:30] <fsphil> with standard receiver hardware anyway
[10:30] <daveake> I'll look out for a payload called GPGGA :p
[10:32] <fsphil> wonder if u-blox would make a ukhas edition
[10:32] <Steve_G0TDJ> Custom GPS, cool
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[10:32] <Steve_G0TDJ> Based on Max7?
[10:32] <fsphil> it has more than enough cpu power
[10:33] <daveake> Wonder if any of these GPS cameras has a max-7
[10:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> And guess what craag? http://www.atmel.com/products/Wireless/smartRF/transmitter_ics.aspx
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[10:33] <fsphil> that would be cool. would need a bit of hacking to put it into flight mode
[10:33] <craag> hehe nice Steve_G0TDJ !
[10:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> Look at ATA8742 in particular
[10:34] <fsphil> I think chriss was looking at that. it might be possible to do it all via chdk
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[10:35] <Steve_G0TDJ> Can anyone get samples frmo Atmel? They won't send me any LOL
[10:35] <fsphil> not too evil a package
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[10:35] <fsphil> 256 bytes of ram
[10:36] <fsphil> LOADS
[10:36] <fsphil> it's an embedded attiny44v
[10:36] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yep
[10:37] <fsphil> 7.5 dBm output power
[10:38] <Steve_G0TDJ> Bit low but you could stick an amp after it surely
[10:38] <craag> At which point you're back to 2 chips :/
[10:38] <fsphil> the extra parts defeat the purpose
[10:38] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hmmm....
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[10:39] <Steve_G0TDJ> What's 7.5dBm in real money?
[10:39] <fsphil> about 5mw
[10:40] <Steve_G0TDJ> Damn
[10:40] <fsphil> 5.6
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[10:41] <Steve_G0TDJ> I still love the idea of using an Atmel chip.
[10:41] <fsphil> they are very well supported
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[10:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL That was clever
[10:43] <Steve_G0TDJ> I was going to say, they are familiar. Atmel chips
[10:44] <ibanezmatt13> Not sure if anyone can help but: http://pbrd.co/1blpUlN It's a very simple Q about finding the median and IQ of some data. I've not done this for over a year so I'm not sure how to do it. Do I have to order the data or something? Q1b
[10:44] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'd love to help but...
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[10:45] <ibanezmatt13> I did 23+1/4 which said the LQ was the 6th position in the data, logically. But then I realised, it wasn't in order so this would cause problems
[10:45] <ibanezmatt13> So if I order them, will the basic GCSE knowledge allow me to solve this?
[10:45] <ibanezmatt13> wait a minute, they are in order :/
[10:46] <ibanezmatt13> nevermind
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[10:54] <la3eq> nothing received from B-25 here so far.
[10:55] <DL1SGP> thanks for trying la3eq :)
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[11:04] <DL1SGP> la3eq: last data on APRS is showing that it lost height above north sea in a bit less than an hour it went down roughly 1900m so it might have taken a wet landing. however that is unverified :)
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[11:33] <cuddykid> habhub iOS app should be back in app store soon - just been approved :)
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[11:42] <DL7AD> UB4UAD wrote to me: / ?@8=8<0N A83=0; =0 437.702 MHz. >:0 >= >G5=L A;01K9 8 O =5 <>3C 53> 45:>48@>20BL.
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[11:43] Action: bertrik has no clue what that means
[11:44] <DL7AD> use google translator
[11:44] Nick change: KipK -> KipK_away
[11:44] <mfa298> Google says: I accept the signal on 437.702 MHz. While he was very weak and I can not decode it.
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[11:57] <eroomde> stupid thins #57984: not being able to get wifi passwords off your phone
[11:58] <eroomde> i'm at a cafe where my phone is connected but the person who runs, who knows the passwd, is away, and i want to use my laptop
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[12:03] <DL1SGP> android phone, eroomde?
[12:04] <eroomde> yep
[12:05] <DL1SGP> rooted?
[12:05] <eroomde> nope
[12:05] <eroomde> hence problem
[12:05] <DL1SGP> :D
[12:07] <DL1SGP> anybody else around who has a rooted android phone and would be kind enough to look up the key for you?
[12:08] <mfa298> I thought I'd maanged to get wifi passwords out of my android phone but it's a HTC so it might be their extra that allowed that
[12:16] <bertrik> IIRC, I didn't have to re-enter any wifi passwords when I got a new android phone (apparently restored by google), but I never saw them in plain text again
[12:17] <mclane> does someone know where dl-fldigi stores ssdv images locally? (linux)
[12:17] <chrisg7ogx> no you have to ask USA Intelligence srvice for them!
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[12:33] <chrisg7ogx> mclane go into Fldigi config - DL Client - third of the way down the window you have option to designate where you want SSDV images saved
[12:33] <db_g6gzh> mclane: DL Client -> configure
[12:34] <chrisg7ogx> snap!
[12:34] <db_g6gzh> 8-)
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[12:35] <chrisg7ogx> DL1SGP there was very heavy rain in the North Sea during B-25 transit :@{
[12:36] <DL1SGP> damn rain :D
[12:36] <DL1SGP> welcome back chris
[12:36] <chrisg7ogx> cheers
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[12:37] <chrisg7ogx> playing with new yaesu FT-897
[12:37] <db_g6gzh> chrisg7ogx: 16 minutes passed and then we both answered within a few seconds - we should get together and run a bus company
[12:38] <chrisg7ogx> LOL
[12:38] <DL1SGP> sounds about right thinking back at my bus rides in UK
[12:39] <chrisg7ogx> it is better now
[12:39] <chrisg7ogx> there are far less buses!!
[12:41] <DL1SGP> less buses... less chance of delayed buses
[12:42] <chrisg7ogx> Ah now I see their cunning plan Baldrick!
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[12:43] <moriarty> who was in the North Sea?
[12:43] <moriarty> chrisg7ogx, what were you doing there?
[12:43] <moriarty> :)
[12:44] <chrisg7ogx> looked at WX map!!! I was in warm shack..
[12:44] <chrisg7ogx> Balloon B-25 was crossing North Sea
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[13:14] <ibanezmatt13> ping Upu
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[13:22] <Maxell> ibanezmatt13 in a hurry :P
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[14:19] <DanielRichman> andy_vk3yt: hey
[14:19] <DanielRichman> are you running a perl script posting to transition/payload_telemetry ?
[14:19] <DanielRichman> (or were you)
[14:21] <eroomde> he knows where you live btw andy_vk3yt
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[14:22] <DanielRichman> it's true. Not enough people are scared of their sysadmins
[14:22] <DanielRichman> you should be
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[14:30] <DanielRichman> anyway andy_vk3yt; (when you get back); I think you were submitting the same string twice/several times with new 'uploaded' dates on them
[14:30] <DanielRichman> I get emails when things like that happen ;-)
[14:32] <DanielRichman> or rather, I get emails when the database rejects an update saved via /transition/ since "that receiver had already received that string".
[14:32] <DanielRichman> also be aware that /transition/ is deprecated and entirely unused, and is hence liable to disappear
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[14:54] <craag> Upu: Did you have an antenna rotator control board project at some point?
[14:55] <Upu> hey craag
[14:55] <Upu> yes
[14:55] <Upu> want one ?
[14:55] <Upu> whilst i have you
[14:55] <Upu> if I'm making my 817 digirepeat
[14:55] <Upu> should it be set to PKT or DIG ?
[14:55] <craag> Hmm good q
[14:56] <craag> My kit's too new to have all these fancy modes :P
[14:56] <craag> *too old
[14:56] <craag> I'll take a look
[14:56] <mfa298> you might need to check the manual for that but I suspect FMN or PKT
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[14:56] <mfa298> I think DIG might be more for HF digital modes so sets the radio to USB/LSB
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[14:56] <Upu> I think its PKT
[14:57] <Upu> its probably this software
[14:57] <Upu> sounds like its repeating
[14:57] <Upu> but doesn't seem to actually do it
[14:57] <craag> Upu: Yeah, when using the Data Jack at the back, use PKT.
[14:57] <Upu> if I have a car tracker
[14:57] <Upu> yup ok thx
[14:57] <Upu> M0UPU-12
[14:57] <Upu> what should I set my WIDE settings too ?
[14:58] <craag> WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 is good for a mobile station
[14:58] <Upu> ok thats what I'm set too
[14:58] <Upu> ok must be the software
[14:58] <craag> what software are you using?
[14:58] <Upu> AGWUIdigi
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[14:59] <eroomde> catchy name
[14:59] <craag> Ah haven't tried that
[14:59] <craag> aprx + soundmodem every time :)
[14:59] <Upu> I have a scanner next to me and can hear the tranmissions
[14:59] <mfa298> with the data jack you might also need to set the packet rate setting value in the menu
[14:59] <Upu> yeah well Pi + BiMH1
[15:00] <Upu> set to 1200
[15:00] <mfa298> thats possibly more important for rx rather than tx
[15:01] <Upu> I'm sure its actually working
[15:01] <Upu> just the software isn't repeating
[15:01] <Upu> I'll go stick it in the car
[15:02] <Upu> Arduino regs get annoying hot from 13.8V
[15:02] <Upu> craag http://ava.upuaut.net/?p=372
[15:02] <Upu> let me know if you want one
[15:02] <Upu> afk
[15:03] <craag> Thanks I'll take a look, the uni club accidentally a yaesu 2-axis rotator system last night :P
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[15:10] <gonzo_> is that one with the rs232 control craag?
[15:11] <craag> Parts for the Pi+BiMH1 project are in the SSDV payload at the moment, but I'll scrounge them back out after a flight at the end of this month I hope :)
[15:11] <craag> No, it's one of the older ones with just analogue V
[15:12] <gonzo_> important tip:: don't refuel your gas soldering iron when running. It takes the hair off your hands and de-flufs your jumper
[15:12] <craag> We're thinking of putting together something portable with GPS+compass sensors for doing hab/sat tracking.
[15:13] <DL7AD> good afternoon
[15:13] <gonzo_> you (they) will want an LVB tracker interface then
[15:13] <jedas> craag, plus antena tracking device ? :)
[15:14] <gonzo_> (a cheap PIC based alternative to the yaesu rs232 interface
[15:14] <Upu> !/3>DDN$2(> /A=000862|!$| /M0UPU,28,8,11'C,http://habduino.org
[15:14] <Upu> cold in my car
[15:14] <craag> Upu: :)
[15:14] <DL1SGP> hehe
[15:15] <Upu> check the pro install : http://i.imgur.com/I1YOKcH.jpg
[15:15] <craag> gonzo_: Interesting, we're currently thinking a Pi-based unit for compactness
[15:16] <Upu> I'm interested as well craag
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[15:16] <Upu> gonzo_ my £20 board + an Arduino does what the LVB does
[15:16] <gonzo_> it's a simple interface, so less faf than a pi
[15:16] <craag> Upu: So much spare boot space there to fill with messy cables!!
[15:16] <Upu> I know
[15:17] <craag> gonzo_: But still needs a seperate pc!
[15:17] <Upu> however I just realised
[15:17] <Upu> I have to take the dog with us later
[15:17] <Upu> and he goes in the boot
[15:17] <Upu> this won't end well
[15:17] <craag> haha
[15:17] <gonzo_> the bits in an lvb are cheap really, most of it is profit for the AMSAT funds
[15:17] <gonzo_> you could still vero one up
[15:17] <Upu> yeah fair enough I just made my own
[15:17] <Upu> I still donate to AMSAT
[15:17] <Upu> back shortly
[15:18] <craag> Also it's PIC-based :|
[15:18] <gonzo_> I used an lvb as the breadboard for my tracker pauload, as I had a soare avail
[15:18] <gonzo_> yep, whoich is the ideal proc for that app
[15:19] <gonzo_> they don't do much, but do it fast with a small footprint
[15:19] <craag> We have one guy at the uni club who programs PICs, but will only do it for double-time pay and a fair few beers!
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[15:20] <gonzo_> the lvb progs theough the rs232 port. And the code is open source
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[15:21] <gonzo_> it's intended to get progged by old G3's!)
[15:21] <craag> A Ham open-source projectW :O
[15:21] <craag> *!
[15:22] <craag> But yeah, we'll build our own Pi-based one, so we can just pull it out of the car, switch it on and it points the antenna to the latest habitat position of a selected payload :)
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[15:23] <gonzo_> fairy nuff
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[15:23] <mfa298> I thought you were supposed to do that sort of thing on a BBB as the Pi doesn't have enough power :P
[15:24] <craag> Hmm BBB would be 10x better in fact
[15:24] <craag> good point
[15:24] <craag> (integrated ADCs)
[15:24] <jedas> what is BBB ?
[15:24] <craag> Beaglebone Black
[15:25] <jedas> I've played with non-black version, it does seemes very similar to PI, except ADC maybe
[15:25] <craag> Ah just got that mfa298 !
[15:25] <craag> :P
[15:25] <craag> jedas: Yeah it's similar, less community support, more power efficient, far more comprehensive gpio.
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[15:26] <jedas> i've been thinking for similar project for some time. are you going to do it as community project, or just few persons ?
[15:27] <Herman-PB0AHX> hello to all
[15:27] <craag> It could certainly be a community project. It's just an idea at the moment, I've got far too many things on to get involved myself atm :P
[15:27] <mfa298> craag: I suspect you'll have more luck than the previous attempt whether it's done on a Pi or BBB
[15:28] <craag> mfa298: Or gadgeteer!!!
[15:28] <mfa298> I didn't think you could do anything successful with gadgeteer (well apart from waste time and money)
[15:29] <jedas> guys did this time ago for FPV http://www.ebay.com/itm/FPV-Automatic-Antenna-Tracker-Car-Roof-Mount-Base-Long-Range-MFD-AAT-GoPro-Hero3-/261226148163
[15:29] <craag> mfa298: I've heard they cut down payloads either on-time or an hour early :P
[15:29] <jedas> just of course payload receiving was slightly different, from FM video transmitters
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[15:30] <craag> jedas: V cool.
[15:31] <jedas> it would make sense, not to reinvent that stuff, just to add software layer to convert payload info
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[15:31] <jedas> or maybe, 433 yagis requires a little bit stronger servos :)
[15:32] <craag> Yeah we've got the antenna rotator, it's rated to 200kg load :P
[15:32] <jedas> nice. is it expensive ?
[15:32] <craag> 40 quid at a local radio club auction!
[15:32] <Upu> needs servicing ?
[15:32] <jedas> thats reasonable
[15:32] <andy_vk3yt> DanielRichman: Yes we were testing the temporary JT65 to spacenear.us conversion script
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[15:33] <craag> Upu: I think M0NSA powered it up last night, mentioned it was a bit noisy..
[15:33] <Upu> yeah may need servicing
[15:33] <Upu> what make is it ?
[15:33] <craag> yaesu
[15:33] <craag> 5400
[15:34] <Upu> if you only paid £40 for it definetely worth spending a few bob on it servicing it before you go to the trouble of mounting it
[15:35] <craag> Yeah, we haven't got anywhere to mount it at the moment, hence looking at portable controllers.
[15:35] <craag> Still going to need an inverter to run the motors though..
[15:36] <craag> Anyway, thanks for the control board link, we'll have a think. And I should get back to 3 projects at a time :P
[15:36] <Upu> only 3
[15:37] <craag> 3 ones I'm not being paid/uni-credited for..
[15:37] <eroomde> ,y entire degree was projects i wasn't getting acredited before
[15:37] <eroomde> all of CUSF was that
[15:37] <Upu> well I'm interested in amaking a BiMH1 shield for the Pi for APRS stuff, with a GPS on etc
[15:38] <eroomde> accedited for*
[15:38] <craag> eroomde: Yep, my one's turning out a bit like that too, doesn't help with the grades though :/
[15:39] <eroomde> no one has yet to ask my what grade I got
[15:39] <eroomde> i already knew everyone i wanted to work with before i graduated
[15:39] <eroomde> and have never had to submit a CV to anyone to get a job
[15:39] <craag> Upu: Ok, my parts for that are currently in the ssdv payload, so after that's flown I'll scrounge them back :)
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[15:40] <mfa298> My dad's comment was if you got a higher grade than you needed then you'de spent too much time in the library and not enough in the bar (or doing other fun things)
[15:40] <eroomde> but you do sort of have to be quite commited to that career for that fairly high risk strategy to work :)
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[15:41] <craag> Yes I'm already working part-time in the role that I'd like to work in after Uni.
[15:41] <craag> Doesn't help with motivation to keep focussed on the course!
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[15:46] <craag> Upu: Not seeing anything on aprs.fi from you?
[15:46] <Gadget-Mac> craag: I recall Bo_DK was trying to do an drop it on the ground yagi tracker
[15:47] <craag> Yes he was...
[15:47] <craag> We'll be starting from scratch :)
[15:48] <Gadget-Mac> Given - "It could certainly be a community project. It's just an idea at the moment, I've got far too many things on to get involved myself atm" why not get in touch with him
[15:49] <mfa298> I think Bo_DK pretty much gave up on it as he couldn't get his head around writing software
[15:49] <Gadget-Mac> No, more that he was unable to work through the problems.
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[15:50] <Gadget-Mac> His software was sound (I saw bits of it) the problem was fundamental understanding of linux and BBB
[15:50] <mfa298> Some of his problems were pretty simple. I spent a lot of time trying to help him with it.
[15:50] <craag> Gadget-Mac: I was quite involved in helping Bo, and from the code/schematics he sent me, there's not much useful.
[15:50] <mfa298> Most of his sound code was taken from craag's HABRotate program
[15:51] <Gadget-Mac> I know.
[15:52] <craag> We'd be looking to do a better circuit board, and the software was just habrotate stitched to GPIO code examples iirc.
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[15:56] <Miek> has anyone used the cc430 in a payload?
[15:56] <craag> Yes
[15:56] <craag> mattbrejza has.
[15:57] <Miek> i'd be interested to know how well it worked, it looks like a nice option
[15:58] <craag> It works well, although the software isn't as nice as it could be, needs a good tcxo.
[15:58] <craag> Does make boards nice and small!
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[15:59] <Miek> i saw you were hinting at a cortex m0 + RF chip earlier, any more details on that? :p
[15:59] <Miek> i saw the kinetis kw01 but i can't find it available anywhere
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[16:02] <craag> I've heard it's in the pipeline, nothing more than that.
[16:03] <Miek> ah, ok
[16:03] <craag> THe kw01 does look exactly like what I was describing..
[16:04] <craag> Maybe they're planning to launch another version, I don't know, will see if I can find out more :)
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[16:13] <Upu> hey craag yeah my local setup isn't repeating
[16:13] <Upu> I just went for a quick drive to tescos but don't think there any digis close to here
[16:14] <Upu> going to a pub over towards Bingley this evening, see if once I clear the hill I'm picked up by the digi in keighley
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[16:14] <Upu> M0UPU_12
[16:14] <Upu> -12
[16:16] <Upu> definitely transmitting :
[16:16] <Upu> 1:Fm M0UPU-12 To APRS Via WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 <UI pid=F0 Len=66 >[16:16:30]
[16:16] <Upu> !/3>D+N$20> /A=000856|!M| /M0UPU,250,8,15'C,http://habduino.org
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[16:19] <db_g6gzh> Tesco round here have had Laphroaig on offer recently, wonder if that was what prompted Upu's trip 8-)
[16:19] <Upu> wife got me the 18 year old for my birthday so I'm ok atm :)
[16:20] <db_g6gzh> nice
[16:20] <craag> Upu: If you can just get it to igate, that'll do it.
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> It's always nice to get an 18 year old for your birthday.
[16:21] <craag> APRSISCE + agwpe I've used for that on windoze in the past.
[16:21] <Willdude123> Interesting. USB noise makes my radio go all funny
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[16:23] <mfa298> USB: Upper Side Band, Universal Serial Bus, or Universal Systematic Binding
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[16:26] <Upu> I'll give APRSISCE another go
[16:26] <Upu> I seem to recall the UI is very <marquee>Under Construction</marquee>
[16:26] <craag> The config is a bit confusing from what I remember, so good to follow a guide.
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[16:26] <Upu> ok will do
[16:27] <craag> confusing/counter-intuitive
[16:27] <craag> Yes... typical ham radio software :)
[16:27] <mfa298> In some respects I still prefer UI-View32, the interface feels a bit better although the mapping in APRSISCE is better
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[16:33] <db_g6gzh> I'm running aprx on a Pi as an igate
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[16:38] <fsphil> aprx is nice software
[16:38] <fsphil> one of the few mostly sane aprx programs out there
[16:38] <Upu> thats where I'm probably going with it
[16:39] <Willdude123> Got bored so I wrote a radio control program to go through all active HF commercial stations http://pastie.org/8468060
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[16:44] <fsphil> I must try aprx on the pi again. I wasn't able to get it working before
[16:45] <fsphil> I take it PSPY is testing, and not sending the same image over and over again during a flight
[16:45] <fsphil> ?
[16:46] <Willdude123> Can anyone give me some feedback on my program, it could do with a bit of cleaning up, just not sure how
[16:46] <db_g6gzh> fsphil: I built aprx on the Pi as a debian package. You can have my .deb if you like.
[16:46] <fsphil> Willdude123: comments for a start :)
[16:46] <Willdude123> Good idea
[16:47] <fsphil> db_g6gzh: ooh that would be handy. have you got the source .deb? is there even such a thing?
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[16:51] <db_g6gzh> looks like I just grabbed aprx-2.07.svn542.tar.gz and it's got a debian directory in it so it was trivial to make the package
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[16:54] <db_g6gzh> fsphil: http://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/aprx_2.07.542-1_armhf.deb
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[16:58] <Willdude123> http://pastie.org/8468107
[16:58] <Willdude123> fsphil, done :)
[16:59] <mfa298> next suggestion would be to use something like github or gist.github, that way you can edit the same script and have revision history on it (so you know what changed when)
[17:01] <mfa298> I'd also re-arrange the code slightly as it look like you're defining the change function in the middle to the main program
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[17:26] <Upu> craag http://i.imgur.com/lyWzjvv.png
[17:26] <Upu> not quite sure how to get it TXing
[17:27] <Upu> certainly sees more stuff than the other program
[17:27] <Upu> whats the significance of those numbers at the bottom ?
[17:28] <mfa298> I think by default APRSISCE pulls in data from the internet as well as what it gets over the radio
[17:28] <Upu> ah ok
[17:28] <Upu> about to say
[17:29] <Upu> oh and I guess whats in red is direct RX
[17:29] <mfa298> I think somewhere it will show the route it's received stuff
[17:29] <mfa298> although it's been a while since I last used it
[17:30] <Upu> I just told it to update
[17:30] <Upu> which seems to have broken it
[17:30] <mfa298> I think you can also set it not to get data from the internet
[17:33] <db_g6gzh> I see 2E0UPU on my map
[17:35] <Upu> yeah I don't have a valid login for M0UPu
[17:37] <mattbrejza> http://i.imgur.com/xdRj4qr.jpg 'boxes' :)
[17:37] <mfa298> Productive visit to Hobby Craft then ?
[17:38] <Upu> nice :)
[17:38] <mfa298> that box looks like it might be a bit big for your payload
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[17:38] <mattbrejza> indeed good trip
[17:38] <Upu> I like the penguin one
[17:38] <mattbrejza> that box will probably end up having a contour camera in it too though
[17:39] <db_g6gzh> Upu: Passcode for M0UPU is 16002
[17:39] <Upu> PM ? :)
[17:39] <Upu> thx
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[17:40] <Upu> ok that seems to work
[17:40] <db_g6gzh> Well it's pretty common knowledge how to calculate it - aprx does it for you automatically !
[17:40] <Upu> ah ok
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[17:40] <Upu> lol ook
[17:40] <DL1SGP> yeah, basically it was just some tiny xor operation that involves the callsign...
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[17:48] <fsphil> "security"
[17:48] <fsphil> mattbrejza: love the penguin!
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[17:52] <mattbrejza> there was a cat, but that was a bit bigger
[17:53] <daveake> Been to hobbycraft today then? :)
[17:54] <mattbrejza> can you tell :P
[17:54] <mattbrejza> also had various hollow balls
[17:54] <mattbrejza> but i got a penguin
[17:54] <daveake> hah!
[17:55] <fsphil> that's the important one
[17:55] <daveake> I'm going there tomorrow see if I can find a Pi-compatible hollow egg
[17:55] Action: mfa298 didn't think penguins were known for their flying ability
[17:55] <mattbrejza> theres certainly a pi-compatible cat if nothing else
[17:55] <daveake> We have 4 cats here (less than usual!) so I might be tempted to get a cat
[17:55] <daveake> has to be done :)
[17:56] <fsphil> PiFur
[17:56] <fsphil> PiPurr
[17:56] <mattbrejza> almost got hte cat, would have then got someone arty to paint it to match the cat that live sin the students union
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[19:02] <DL1SGP> B-26 time leo?
[19:02] <DL1SGP> a float a day keeps richness away :D
[19:02] <DL1SGP> 33C it must be nicely warm in your car
[19:03] <fsphil> MOAR?
[19:03] <daveake> He won't let balloons foil his plans
[19:03] <eroomde> is there a grand plan to all this?
[19:03] <eroomde> redistriibution of ubloxes to eastern europe?
[19:04] <Laurenceb__> heh
[19:04] <Laurenceb__> i wonder if flying a moisture sensor would be worth it
[19:04] <Laurenceb__> seems to be moisture issues at this time of year
[19:04] <LeoBodnar> No, just regular madness
[19:04] <DL1SGP> indeed Laurenceb_ alot wet air yeck
[19:04] <fsphil> there was snow about here today. woo-hoo!
[19:05] <eroomde> none here
[19:06] <Laurenceb__> just condensation on everything :-/
[19:06] <Laurenceb__> my windows are steamed up on the outside
[19:08] <Laurenceb__> but its still not as bad as when i had to de-ice my PC
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[19:24] <PE0SAT> i hope i can receive 26 this evening ;-)
[19:26] <DL1SGP> good luck PE0SAT
[19:27] <PE0SAT> Thanks DL1SGP
[19:27] <Reb-SM3ULC> B-25 must have been a record flight in defying NASA prognosis.. :)
[19:27] <Reb-SM3ULC> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/197035_trj001.gif
[19:28] <Reb-SM3ULC> more or less exacly the same as yesterday..
[19:28] <DL1SGP> heh Reb-SM3ULC
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[19:30] <eroomde> GOCE is reentering
[19:30] <eroomde> oh actually not for a few hours
[19:31] <eroomde> going to go straight over you fsphil
[19:31] <eroomde> wonder if you can see it
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[19:31] <eroomde> in a few minutes
[19:31] <fsphil> directly overhead?
[19:31] <ibanezmatt13> got a link eroomde?
[19:31] <eroomde> er not quite actually
[19:31] <eroomde> donegal
[19:31] <eroomde> so look west
[19:31] <eroomde> altitude is about 200km
[19:32] <Laurenceb__> thats high
[19:32] <eroomde> about 1m away
[19:32] <eroomde> no it's low
[19:32] <eroomde> about 30s away
[19:32] <Laurenceb__> yeah but low enough for trail?
[19:32] <eroomde> it's not reentering just yet
[19:32] <eroomde> it's into the final few hours
[19:32] <fsphil> will take a look
[19:33] <eroomde> too late
[19:33] <eroomde> it's on its way to iceland now
[19:33] <Laurenceb__> link?
[19:33] <Laurenceb__> will we see another ornit?
[19:33] <eroomde> gpredit
[19:33] <Laurenceb__> *orbit
[19:33] <eroomde> have a google for something webby
[19:33] <eroomde> yes should do
[19:33] <Laurenceb__> ah
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[19:33] <eroomde> it's over iceland
[19:33] <eroomde> ...
[19:34] <eroomde> now
[19:34] <eroomde> faster than easyjet
[19:34] <eroomde> it's now cleared iceland and is on its way to the pole
[19:35] <Reb-SM3ULC> http://download.esa.int/multimedia/esagadgets/esa_goce_reentry.html
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[19:36] <fsphil> yea nothing visible here
[19:36] <eroomde> well, you missed it
[19:37] <fsphil> none of the tracking maps I'm trying seem to be working
[19:37] <eroomde> http://www.foxnews.com/science/interactive/2013/11/08/track-europe-falling-2000-pound-satellite-in-real-time/
[19:37] <eroomde> sorry for fox
[19:37] <eroomde> but it was there in google
[19:37] <Laurenceb__> i have it on heavens above
[19:37] <eroomde> bering strait shortly
[19:38] <fsphil> hey, fox are making cosmos
[19:38] <fsphil> wow that is fast
[19:38] <fsphil> next pass is well out of range of me
[19:38] <fsphil> awwww
[19:38] <eroomde> although it's deceptive because of cartographical projection
[19:38] <Laurenceb__> me too
[19:39] <eroomde> it'll look much faster over the north pole than over the equator
[19:39] <fsphil> I'd love to have seen that
[19:40] <ibanezmatt13_> http://www.n2yo.com/?s=34602
[19:40] <Reb-SM3ULC> eroomde: magenetic pull you know.. ;)
[19:41] <eroomde> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peters_projection
[19:41] <eroomde> this is a cartographic projectio where the correct areas are preserved
[19:41] <eroomde> mkes you realise how massive africa is
[19:42] <Reb-SM3ULC> buuh, makes Sweden tiny
[19:43] <eroomde> it is quite small!
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[19:47] <ibanezmatt13_> incredible. 2 minutes ago it was over Iceland, now it's over Alaska!
[19:48] <eroomde> laggy connection?
[19:48] <eroomde> it's just about to hit NZ
[19:48] <ibanezmatt13_> crappy website
[19:48] <eroomde> it's south of the equator
[19:48] <ibanezmatt13_> got a proper link?
[19:48] <eroomde> the fox one
[19:48] <fsphil> fox one has it over alaska here
[19:48] <fsphil> typical fox
[19:49] <ibanezmatt13_> the fox one for me shows nothing :P
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[19:53] <ibanezmatt13_> eroomde: over Africa yes?
[19:53] <eroomde> south of australia for me
[19:53] <fsphil> atlantic ocean here
[19:53] <ibanezmatt13_> strange
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[19:54] <fsphil> each time I refresh it, it's slightly behind
[19:54] <ibanezmatt13_> I've got it over the Pacific now :P
[19:55] <fsphil> altitude 164km
[19:55] <fsphil> falling fast
[19:55] <ibanezmatt13_> yes
[19:55] <ibanezmatt13_> it is
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[19:56] <eroomde> orbit is slightly elliptic
[19:56] <eroomde> so it might go back up again
[19:58] <fsphil> it really does look like a missile
[19:58] <ibanezmatt13_> I've lost it
[19:59] <eroomde> yes, it has to be aerodynamic
[19:59] <Reb-SM3ULC> wonder if they use real doppler data or just run on old tle:s..
[19:59] <eroomde> as it's nominal operational altitude was only 200km
[19:59] <fsphil> a satellite with fins
[19:59] <eroomde> i believe it's real data as TLEs don't model drag
[20:00] <eroomde> it was designed to operate for several years at the same orbital alitude as things like upper stages in parking orbits
[20:00] <eroomde> so forexample the russian probe phobos grunt that failed to do the earth escape burn was up there
[20:00] <eroomde> which is why they only had a few days to try and fix it before it reentered
[20:01] <fsphil> a satellite that detected an earthquake. neat really
[20:01] <eroomde> yes
[20:01] <eroomde> they had a difficult control task with the ion engine
[20:01] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: I've been watching the kepler science conference.
[20:02] <eroomde> it's thrust had to precisely match drag so that there was no net acceleration on it other than gravity
[20:02] <SpeedEvil> There is some _madly_ cool stuff on that.
[20:02] <SpeedEvil> I mean - gravitational lensing detection of really distant planets.
[20:02] <eroomde> so that all that the accelerometer was measuring was the local gravity vector
[20:03] <SpeedEvil> Most fun bit of that is that if you have three stations on earth - the actual lens 'zoom' is so high that the transit of the planet can be seen at different times on each
[20:03] <SpeedEvil> The sky does not lok the same at all points on earth
[20:03] <SpeedEvil> Even for objects a few tens of thousands of light years away
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[20:04] <SpeedEvil> http://nexsci.caltech.edu/conferences/KeplerII/agenda.shtml - aww - it's not up yet as video - 3:40 on the last day. Characterizing microlensing planets with Kepler
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[20:05] <SpeedEvil> http://connect.arc.nasa.gov/p3ulizjsftl/ - what they can do with just two momentum wheels.
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[20:06] <SpeedEvil> It's barking mad that they can meaure the velocity to stars with uncertainties in the cm/s.
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[20:12] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[20:14] <x-f> good evening, LL
[20:14] <x-f> there's a B-x balloon heading to you - http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/197119_trj001.gif
[20:15] <eroomde> a barn owl just flew into my window
[20:15] <eroomde> cool
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> cool, thanks
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> for those wondering, I attended an EPR workshop
[20:16] <eroomde> hands up if you were wondering
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> which was nice, met some new people and got a lot of info
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> for example, I met a prof from UCL, he was a nice person
[20:17] <eroomde> a rarity
[20:17] <eroomde> what is EPR?
[20:17] <Lunar_Lander> electron paramagnetic resonance, a form of microwave spectroscopy
[20:18] Action: Reb-SM3ULC <= incompetent trajectory calculator
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> the effect used is that magnetic fields split the energy levels of spin states which have degenerate energy otherwise, and the energies are just right for microwaves to be absorbed
[20:18] <fsphil> eroomde: did he hoot himself?
[20:18] <eroomde> he smacked himself
[20:18] <eroomde> and made a slipping down glass noise
[20:18] <eroomde> then flew off a second later
[20:18] <x-f> Reb-SM3ULC, i wouldn't say that, the general direction was fine :)
[20:19] <Reb-SM3ULC> x-f: right.. east...
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> hey Reb-SM3ULC
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> I read something really cool today
[20:20] <Lunar_Lander> there is a report from this year from the Italian Hessdalen research group, they found that the two halves of the valley basically have iron- and copper-rich grounds, and, along with the sulfur on the iron side, this could turn the valley into a big battery
[20:20] <Lunar_Lander> which could be the reason for the lights
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[20:22] <x-f> what lights?
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> the Hessdalen Lights
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> there is a valley in Norway called Hessdalen and there are often nocturnal lights hovering in the air
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> and since 1984 several researchers try to find the physical reason
[20:24] <x-f> interesting
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander> there was another report which like chided the other italian researchers
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[20:25] <Lunar_Lander> they photographed a light which was like a white triangle with a red dot at one corner
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander> and the other guy wrote that he was watching the light with a telescope while these others were taking photos and he could clearly see that it was a car on a forest road
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> and that their light intensity calculations came out at 200 lux, which is almost exactly the value that car headlights must have (240 lux)
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> and so on
[20:26] <SpeedEvil> hah
[20:26] Action: x-f blinks.
[20:29] <Reb-SM3ULC> x-f: not good to not update start of pred and method..
[20:30] <Reb-SM3ULC> Lunar_Lander: just get som cables and power the village.. ;)
[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> yeah :P
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[20:34] <Reb-SM3ULC> x-f: seems like B-26 might visit Sthlm. Though I have no LOS from S and eastwards
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[20:35] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> Hoi Jan
[20:35] <PE0SAT> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: Hallo Wouter, alles oke
[20:36] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> yup, how are you?
[20:36] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> the SSPA is now dismantled into pieces :D
[20:36] <x-f> Reb-SM3ULC, yeah, current prediction is like "everybody might get a bit of tracking"
[20:37] <PE0SAT> I am fine. Did some telemetry decoding this evening.
[20:37] <Reb-SM3ULC> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/197262_trj001.gif
[20:37] <PE0SAT> I hope B26 I can recieve B26 this evening
[20:38] <PE0SAT> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: what are the plans with the SSPA?
[20:39] <Lunar_Lander> btw I met two people from University of Antwerpen
[20:39] <Lunar_Lander> that was nice
[20:39] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:40] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> fetching the FETs from it, the heat sink and various uWave candy
[20:40] <PE0SAT> Sounds like fun
[20:40] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> all the biasing and phasing networks are rubbish (14GHz)
[20:41] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> @Leo, if you are reading, no flight doc for 26?
[20:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> Don't think its been approved yet it was only requested at 20:17 in #habhub ;-)
[20:55] <Laurenceb__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9mcNvOGKtI
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[20:58] <tweetBot> @adamcudworth: HABHub iOS app back on the App Store. This time as a free download. Enjoy! #ukhas https://t.co/LIwN1KDP8t
[20:59] <Reb-SM3ULC> B-26 sliding.. :/
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[21:02] <gonzo_> Agh another leo missed
[21:06] <daveake> Launches 'Em Often
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[21:08] <fsphil> new pokemon game. gotta launch then all
[21:09] <Reb-SM3ULC> hope it survives, hoped to track it..
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[21:26] <chrisg7ogx> heavy rain here and sigs are sounding weak..
[21:29] <x-f> :/
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[21:43] <PE0SAT> Very weak signals from B-26
[21:44] <DL1SGP> that's already something, it should improve while it is approaching your location PE0SAT
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[21:44] <PE0SAT> It is better then last night
[21:45] <DL1SGP> already is about 80km closer to you than the flight of yesterday, so yes :) and it still is approaching so you will be able to enjoy it for a while
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[21:51] <PE0SAT> I have some RTTY on 434.505????
[21:56] <fsphil> wasn't me
[21:56] <PE0SAT> fsphil: Lol
[21:56] <fsphil> wish it was :)
[21:57] <PE0SAT> I have my first DOMX16 decode ;-)
[21:57] <DL1SGP> congrats PE0SAT
[21:58] <PE0SAT> Thanks DL1SGP
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[22:03] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> Congrats Jan
[22:03] <DL1SGP> weather does not seem to be best out there ( guess same as out ehre lol )
[22:03] <DL1SGP> goedenavond Wouter
[22:03] <PE0SAT> Thx Wouter-[pa3weg]1
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[22:04] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> Hi Felix
[22:05] <PE0SAT> Signals are weak, didn't now DOM was working that wel even when s/n is bad
[22:05] <DL1SGP> oh it is quite stable in weak signals, nice mode
[22:05] <bertrik> I cannot see the 3-sec interval beeps, but I can usually see the DomEx signal
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[22:06] <PE0SAT> I also see and hear the interval beeps, the rythme changes just before a DOM transmission if I am correct
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[22:08] <DL1SGP> yes PE0SAT just before a DomEx transmission begins it sends 2fast pips once followed by three fast pips
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[22:08] <DL1SGP> I often use that when the signal is weak to time switching off the SQL
[22:08] <PE0SAT> Thanks Felix, so nothing wrong with my ears
[22:09] <PE0SAT> I was just thinking about that ;-)
[22:10] <DL1SGP> just toggle it off right after the three-beep signal... like that it has higher chances to pick up teh ICICIC to find the edges of signal and decode both sentences properly
[22:11] <PE0SAT> I'll give it a second try, it missing the first one now
[22:12] <gonzo_> leo does miss out on a lot of tracking stations, but not announcing
[22:13] <bertrik> DL1SGP: yes, on earlier DomEx transmissions I've seen it alternate between min and max frequency a few times, tracing out the DomEx spectral width
[22:13] <DL1SGP> bertrik: yea that is done through sending ICICIC
[22:13] <DL1SGP> permits dl-fldigi to adjust before the telemetry is sent down
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[22:14] <DL1SGP> welcome back Andrew_M6GTG
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[22:17] <bertrik> seeing the B-26 clearly now, I think I should get a good decode on the next transmission
[22:17] <DL1SGP> heh good luck cause I fear it might take a landing in the netherlands anyhow :)
[22:19] <PE0SAT> Maybe in my backyard ;-)
[22:19] <DL1SGP> if it does so I am sure that Leo would say that you could keep it :)
[22:19] <PE0SAT> ;-)
[22:20] <PE0SAT> Maybe fill it up and let it go
[22:20] <bertrik> maybe we'll send it back :)
[22:20] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> We already seriously discussed this with the Delft/The Hague crew
[22:21] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> if it lands here we *will* fetch it ;)
[22:21] <PE0SAT> Fill it up or bring/send it back Wouter-[pa3weg]1
[22:21] <DL1SGP> Wouter ballonvossenjacht reloaded :)
[22:21] <PE0SAT> Lol!
[22:21] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> that would need relatively rare wind condx
[22:22] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I kicked ass at baloonvossejacht anyway, my ATV reception was better than the organisers :P
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[22:23] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> PE0SAT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSNAGkleAFU
[22:23] <DL1SGP> hehe Wouter-[pa3weg]1 I heard the repeater quite nice here, was fun... as 145.475 is the freq our club uses for 2m FM-simplex
[22:23] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> nice
[22:24] <PE0SAT> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: nice pictures
[22:24] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I miced the repeater audio into the movie at some point
[22:24] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> mixed
[22:27] <DL1SGP> I need to upgrade my directional equipment on 2m/70cm sometime in future and maintenance the present stuff. but right now it is unclear if my primary QTH would stay here or not, so building up something nice eventually might turn out to be wasted money
[22:29] <cm13g09> evening all...
[22:29] <DL1SGP> hi cm13g09
[22:29] <cm13g09> probably shouldn't be on at this time of night....
[22:29] <cm13g09> but y'know :P
[22:30] <cm13g09> I've just done a 12 hour day in work on a Saturday
[22:30] <PE0SAT> Felix I have been there, just upgrade and enjoy.
[22:30] <Lunar_Lander> hi DL1SGP and everyone else who I didn't greet earlier :)
[22:30] <PE0SAT> Hi Lunar_Lander GE
[22:30] <DL1SGP> Guten Abend Lunar_Lander
[22:32] <Lunar_Lander> how's life?
[22:33] <DL1SGP> All good, hope same with you?
[22:33] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:33] <Lunar_Lander> had a three-day workshop at uni
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[22:35] <DL1SGP> sounds fun Lunar_Lander, hope it turned out to be as exciting as you were hoping for
[22:35] <Lunar_Lander> yeah, answered a lot of questions
[22:35] <Lunar_Lander> was about EPR spectroscopy and protein research
[22:37] <edmoore> did folding@home ever discover anything in particular?
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> ah, I never heard of that before actually
[22:45] <natrium43> edmoore: i ran mersenne prime search
[22:45] <natrium43> didn't discover any primes though...
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[22:47] <edmoore> funny
[22:47] <Laurenceb__> http://www.terrafirmajets.co.uk/image_files/jetped3.jpg
[22:47] <Laurenceb__> funnier
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> edmoore, just reading about it, is very interesting
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> Reb-SM3ULC, x-f, if you are still on, I read something in a paper of the Hessdalen chief researcher, who is working on it since 1984, and in this 2002 report he said that the people at the observation site often felt like sitting in a rocking boat
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> and he attributes that to EM acting on the brain
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> that might well be if the phenomenon as such is electrical
[22:54] <DL1SGP> sounds plausible, yes
[22:57] <PB1DFT> grr damn dongles....
[22:57] <PE0SAT> PB1DFT: What dongles?
[22:57] <DL1SGP> and what is the problem?
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[22:59] <PB1DFT> Windows ;)
[22:59] <PB1DFT> ^^ @ DL1SGP
[22:59] <PB1DFT> PE0SAT: funcube dongle
[23:00] <DL1SGP> well use Linux then :)
[23:00] <PE0SAT> PB1DFT: That is working great on my side. Do you have a Plus or an older one? And what software are you using
[23:00] <PB1DFT> plus / sdrsharp / virtual audiocable
[23:01] <PE0SAT> Plus, SDRSharp 1.0.0.1165 and windows Audio mixer. Working great. what is the problem?
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[23:02] <PB1DFT> where's the download for audio mixer ?
[23:03] <PE0SAT> That's part of the audio settings. It could be that the mixer is hidden.
[23:04] <PE0SAT> Maybe this will help: http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/satellite-telemetry/sound-card-modem/
[23:05] <Reb-SM3ULC> Lunar_Lander: still around, a few secs
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[23:05] <PE0SAT> But Linux is also working great. You can use GQRX or GNURadio
[23:07] <PE0SAT> And there seems to be a new player, QSDR I haven't tried it yet.
[23:07] <PB1DFT> lemmi check the link
[23:07] <Upu> lol
[23:07] <Upu> LeoBodnar get's digi'd @ 20mW but I can't get my car repeated at 300
[23:10] <Reb-SM3ULC> Upu: connect antenna? ;)
[23:10] <Upu> no digis round here
[23:10] <Upu> UK isn't great for APRS coverage
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[23:10] <db_g6gzh> You just need to get your car a couple of km higher
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[23:11] <DL1SGP> attach a balloon to it with a long string
[23:13] <Upu> well I was trying to set up a repeater here but doesn't want to play
[23:13] <Upu> not sure why
[23:13] <Upu> will have another play tomorrow
[23:14] <Lunar_Lander> Reb-SM3ULC, no problem :)
[23:18] <Reb-SM3ULC> What are the chanses for B-26 recovering?
[23:18] <Reb-SM3ULC> spellink...
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[23:19] <PE0SAT> PB1DFT: Is the information helpful
[23:20] <DL7AD> evening
[23:20] <DL1SGP> Guten Morgen Sven
[23:21] <PE0SAT> Goodnight all, until next time
[23:22] <DL1SGP> Slaap well Jan, smakkelijk ballonjacht droumen
[23:22] <PE0SAT> DL1SGP: Danke Felix gutte nacht
[23:22] <DL1SGP> Danke :)
[23:23] <DL7AD> DL1SGP: jo nabend
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> hi DL7AD
[23:25] <DL7AD> Lunar_Lander: moin moin :)
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[23:26] <PB1DFT> need virtual audio cable to reroute the audio to fldigi
[23:27] <PB1DFT> ubuntu almost running
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