highaltitude.log.20131027

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[00:24] <eroomde> quite a lot of stuff rumbling low over oxford
[00:24] <eroomde> presumably for brize norton
[00:25] <eroomde> unusual for this hour
[00:25] <eroomde> wonder if anything's going on
[00:26] <Laurenceb__> air strike on my underground base
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[00:28] <RevWilldude123> I got ordained by the universal life church
[00:28] <RevWilldude123> I think I can call myself Rev. now
[00:29] <Laurenceb__> /ignore RevWill*@* ALL
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[01:05] <SpeedEvil_> They're finally bombing slough.
[01:06] <M6PFX-Paul> SpeedEvil ?
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[01:09] <SpeedEvil_> <eroomde> quite a lot of stuff rumbling low over oxford
[01:09] <SpeedEvil_> <eroomde> presumably for brize norton
[01:09] <SpeedEvil_> <eroomde> unusual for this hour
[01:09] <SpeedEvil_> http://www-cdr.stanford.edu/intuition/Slough.html
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[03:47] <wb8elk> Can someone activate a Flight Doc for a flight coming up this morning? Flight Doc: dc3e4f567608367a2dca141fc2b81b4f
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[06:28] <DL1SGP1> good morning :)
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[06:43] <x-f> good morning
[06:43] <x-f> good bye, DST
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[08:36] <ibanezmatt13> Why is this invalid? NORB_2,083617,179,53.530357,N,-2.717180,W,1,1,2085,102.2*5275
[08:36] <ibanezmatt13> I'm trying to create a payload doc and apparently that's invalid
[08:37] <ibanezmatt13> Ah is it because you don't need the N and W?
[08:37] <ibanezmatt13> nope, still doesn't work.
[08:37] <Steve_G0TDJ> How about the under-score?
[08:38] <ibanezmatt13> I used under scores in my last payload doc and it was fine :/
[08:38] <Steve_G0TDJ> OK
[08:38] <daveake> where's the sentence number?
[08:38] <ibanezmatt13> 179
[08:38] <ibanezmatt13> 2nd field
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[08:38] <ibanezmatt13> 3rd*
[08:38] <daveake> Most payloads don't use that sequence
[08:38] <daveake> Not that habitat cares
[08:38] <ibanezmatt13> oh
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[08:39] <ibanezmatt13> does it come before time?
[08:39] <daveake> Yes usually the first few fields are the same
[08:39] <daveake> id,count,time,lat,long,alt
[08:39] <ibanezmatt13> right
[08:39] <ibanezmatt13> ok thanks
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[08:39] <daveake> And you don't need the N or W
[08:39] <ibanezmatt13> yeah just realised
[08:40] <daveake> you've already done the sign
[08:40] <ibanezmatt13> btw, I'm getting the number of satellites to be in the thousands some how
[08:40] <daveake> well done let me know how :p
[08:40] <Steve_G0TDJ> Here's a test sentence if it helps: $$$$VAYU_TEST,179,144854,51.452808,00.176337,12,10,1,1,2.03,31*9652
[08:40] <ibanezmatt13> lol
[08:40] <ibanezmatt13> thanks Steve
[08:40] <ibanezmatt13> Oh wait
[08:40] <ibanezmatt13> I know
[08:40] <ibanezmatt13> I need $ before
[08:40] <Steve_G0TDJ> Go on
[08:40] <ibanezmatt13> callsign
[08:41] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yes, at least two
[08:41] <ibanezmatt13> damn of course
[08:41] <ibanezmatt13> ok
[08:43] <Steve_G0TDJ> Working?
[08:44] <ibanezmatt13> just uploading now
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[08:45] <ibanezmatt13> just waiting for a lock now. Usually takes a few mins
[08:45] <eroomde> ibanezmatt13: bring your latest pcb efforts along with you on wed
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[08:45] <ibanezmatt13> of course eroomde, I was going to anyway :)
[08:45] <eroomde> cool
[08:45] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah, mine usually take around 15-20 sentences, even if there at the window
[08:45] <eroomde> i want to see, and i'm sure james will like to see too
[08:45] <Steve_G0TDJ> Oh? Meeting of the greats?
[08:45] <ibanezmatt13> Yes definitely, who is James? :)
[08:46] <eroomde> my boss
[08:46] <ibanezmatt13> ooo, sweet
[08:46] <ibanezmatt13> yeah I'm really pleased with it. Got up bright and early to go see Anthony yesterday as he showed me how to solder the ridiculously small step up circuit
[08:46] <Steve_G0TDJ> Whats his technique?
[08:47] <ibanezmatt13> Well
[08:47] <Steve_G0TDJ> in a nutshell
[08:47] <ibanezmatt13> I had a problem where the via under the TPS61201 was too small to get solder down
[08:47] <ibanezmatt13> So, we put a load of solder paste over the pads
[08:47] <ibanezmatt13> Positioned the TPS61201, and hot aired the whole thing
[08:47] <jcoxon> morning eroomde
[08:47] <jcoxon> make it back in time?
[08:47] <eroomde> morning jcoxon
[08:47] <eroomde> yes
[08:47] <eroomde> they were waiting but only 5 mins
[08:47] <Steve_G0TDJ> ibanezmatt13: Have a look at my latest blog entry :-)
[08:48] <eroomde> gotta hit the road at 9.30
[08:48] <Steve_G0TDJ> Morning James
[08:48] <ibanezmatt13> ok
[08:48] <eroomde> forgot that i have the extra hour
[08:48] <eroomde> how was the rest of the eve?
[08:48] <jcoxon> eroomde, hehe
[08:48] <jcoxon> yeah good, went to the mayflower for a bit
[08:48] <jcoxon> caught last orders
[08:48] <eroomde> perfec
[08:49] <ibanezmatt13> very nice Steve_G0TDJ, good quality pics too. Wish my cam was good as that :P
[08:50] <ibanezmatt13> It's working now
[08:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> I used to be 'in the trade' thanks
[08:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> YAY :D
[08:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> I can see it in the logtail
[08:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> That's how I soldered both VAYU-1 and the new boards ibanezmatt13
[08:51] <ibanezmatt13> cool :)
[08:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> It's time consuming but works
[08:51] <ibanezmatt13> YES! I'm on space near!
[08:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> Confirmed :-)
[08:52] <ibanezmatt13> satellites have gone a bit pear-shaped but I'll sort that later
[08:52] <ibanezmatt13> well now actually
[08:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'm not sure there are 2089 GPS satellites though
[08:52] <ibanezmatt13> maybe NORB is just so good at finding satellites :P
[08:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL
[08:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> Well done.
[08:53] <daveake> yeah it does't just count the gps oes
[08:53] <daveake> ones
[08:53] <ibanezmatt13> yep
[08:54] <ibanezmatt13> https://github.com/ibanezmatt13/NORB_3/blob/master/NORB3.ino
[08:54] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hey Matthew, what's the weather like in your parts?
[08:54] <ibanezmatt13> Erm, very cloudy but no rain as of yet
[08:54] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hmmm, quite windy down here but lovely sunny day
[08:54] <ibanezmatt13> nice, it might brighten up later
[08:55] <Steve_G0TDJ> I was expecting a real hum-dinger of a storm
[08:55] <ibanezmatt13> Wait til Monday...
[08:55] <ibanezmatt13> I've spotted the issue
[08:55] <ibanezmatt13> I've declared satellites as a string but added it to the datastring as an integer :P
[08:55] <ibanezmatt13> numpty
[08:55] <Steve_G0TDJ> Ah ha!
[08:56] <ibanezmatt13> take 2
[08:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> Nice neat code Matthew
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[08:57] <ibanezmatt13> thank you
[08:57] <ibanezmatt13> I've not neatened it up yet
[08:57] <ibanezmatt13> :)
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[08:58] <ibanezmatt13> So if satellites turn out ok this time round, I'll work on getting it txing the voltage across the cell and the temperature/humidity too. Then I'll experiment with logging all this onto a microSD. Fun times
[08:59] <daveake> Matt your n++ is in the wrong place
[08:59] <Steve_G0TDJ> I know who I'm going to ask for help when I get VAYU-NTX going....
[08:59] <ibanezmatt13> I wondered that when I put it in, but thought nothing of it as it worked.
[08:59] <daveake> Remember rule 1 from last night :-). Run the code in your head.
[09:00] <ibanezmatt13> yes, I shall do that again now
[09:00] <ibanezmatt13> lol Steve_G0TDJ
[09:00] <daveake> Yes it works because of n=0 when it sees a $
[09:00] <daveake> You only need n++ after adding a character to the buffer
[09:00] <ibanezmatt13> ok, it should go after it logs the other characters to the string
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[09:00] <ibanezmatt13> datastring[n] = character; after that
[09:00] <daveake> Yes
[09:01] <daveake> and in the $ code, set n=1
[09:01] Action: ibanezmatt13 pats brain on the head
[09:01] <ibanezmatt13> oh yes good idea
[09:01] <daveake> well it won't work otherwise
[09:02] <ibanezmatt13> any better?
[09:03] <ibanezmatt13> I think I messed up the satellies, it's now getting 0 sats but everything else if coming through... :P
[09:03] <ibanezmatt13> step 1
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[09:06] <ibanezmatt13> I think they should introduce a new logo on spacenear which indicates you are testing a payload as opposed to flying. Then you don't have to mess around creating new payload docs and callsigns
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[09:07] <ibanezmatt13> A balloon with the word "test" on it
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[09:07] <Steve_G0TDJ> I temporarily changed the payload name with _TEST to denote that but yes, that would also be good
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[09:07] <ibanezmatt13> Yep, :)
[09:08] <eroomde> right gtg
[09:08] <DL1SGP> end of a lovely morning walk :)
[09:08] <eroomde> good day all
[09:08] <ibanezmatt13> good day
[09:08] <eroomde> enjoy the storm
[09:08] <eroomde> hope leo rides it
[09:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah!
[09:08] <Steve_G0TDJ> Catch you later
[09:08] <DL1SGP> hi eroomde, storm not here yet, just had a walk in the sun... outside temp 18.7c
[09:08] <Upu> just kicking myself for leaving my pico payload at work
[09:08] <eroomde> you might not get it, i think it might swing north
[09:08] <Upu> its clear if a tad windy
[09:09] <eroomde> it's hitting south of england
[09:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> Same here Anthony
[09:09] <eroomde> direct hit on me and leo
[09:09] <DL1SGP> however weather service has now put us on pre-alert :)
[09:09] <ibanezmatt13> Upu, go get it! :D
[09:09] <Upu> I'm actually crapping it a little
[09:09] <Upu> as there is a significant amount of antenna on the rood
[09:09] <Upu> roof
[09:09] <eroomde> living on a hill sucks for once
[09:09] <DL1SGP> Morning ibanezmatt13, Upu and Steve :)
[09:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cos of your rotator?
[09:09] <ibanezmatt13> Morning :)
[09:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Felix
[09:10] <Upu> yeah considering pointing it 90 up so the rear section is down
[09:10] <Upu> minimise the cross section
[09:10] <Steve_G0TDJ> Sounds like a plan
[09:10] <Upu> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63720513/Images/HAM/Rotator/IMG_0796.JPG
[09:11] <Upu> put the reflector side down at 90 level with the mast
[09:11] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yep
[09:11] <Upu> just never done that before
[09:11] <DL1SGP> yes that sounds smart to me Upu
[09:11] <DL1SGP> is that an elvis figurine in the window?
[09:12] <Steve_G0TDJ> If Anthony says 'Uh huh...'
[09:12] <DL1SGP> heh
[09:14] <ibanezmatt13> Steve_G0TDJ, I've decided there's no point me having satellites anyway if I'm txing the lock :P
[09:14] <Steve_G0TDJ> I think it's useful to have but it's your payload :-)
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[09:15] <ibanezmatt13> Yeah, I'm gonna leave it. Useful as it is at the moment I'm happy with just a lock that's != 0 :)
[09:15] <ibanezmatt13> may change at some point
[09:16] <Steve_G0TDJ> Easy enough to change
[09:16] <ibanezmatt13> yep
[09:17] <Steve_G0TDJ> I was looking at AVR Assembler last night, That looks fun
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[09:17] <DL1SGP> heh
[09:22] <Upu> http://imgur.com/ot9SJnp
[09:22] <Upu> wish me luck
[09:23] <Steve_G0TDJ> Looks good Upu
[09:23] <Upu> right shopping
[09:23] <Upu> bbl
[09:23] <Steve_G0TDJ> Ctch you later
[09:23] <DL1SGP> Looks good and good luck, good hunt for food!
[09:26] <ibanezmatt13> http://www.norb.co.uk
[09:26] <Steve_G0TDJ> Nice
[09:29] <DL1SGP> lol http://i.imgur.com/7ZK0KoC.jpg
[09:29] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hah! :D
[09:30] <ibanezmatt13> lol
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[09:33] <ibanezmatt13> Here comes the storm
[09:34] <ibanezmatt13> I wonder why NORB is no longer getting a lock...
[09:34] <Steve_G0TDJ> Still blue skies here
[09:34] <Steve_G0TDJ> Have you got it at the window?
[09:34] <ibanezmatt13> yep
[09:34] <DL1SGP> you would possibly know if you had the number of satellites ibanezmatt13 :D
[09:34] <Steve_G0TDJ> Maybe the coluds are heavy with water
[09:34] <ibanezmatt13> lol, maybe
[09:34] <Steve_G0TDJ> Clouds
[09:35] <ibanezmatt13> they certainly appear to be
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[09:36] <DL1SGP> Sky here is blue, 4/8 clouds, wind real slow :)
[09:36] <Steve_G0TDJ> Anyone in here with Zilog MCU experience?
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[09:37] <DL1SGP> I have not heard of that one, so I guess not me :)
[09:37] <Steve_G0TDJ> Zilog eZ80
[09:37] <Steve_G0TDJ> z8 Encore!
[09:37] <Steve_G0TDJ> etc.
[09:38] <DL1SGP> this stuff http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Z8/
[09:38] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah, but I@d use SMD versions
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[09:39] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'm interested in making a z8* based tracker
[09:39] <DL1SGP> better for keeping things tiny :D
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[09:44] <DL1SGP> well I am on the roof for a moment to check that everything is ready for any potential nasty weather in the next 3 days
[09:44] <DL1SGP> brb
[09:45] <Steve_G0TDJ> See you in a tick
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[09:45] <ibanezmatt13_> Steve_G0TDJ: I have satellites :)
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[09:46] <Steve_G0TDJ> YAY! :D
[09:46] <ibanezmatt13> a whole 5 of them
[09:46] <Steve_G0TDJ> 5 of them, cool
[09:47] <ibanezmatt13> looks like the most important part of it is working
[09:47] <Steve_G0TDJ> You could fly that
[09:47] <ibanezmatt13> flightmode is setting perfectly, as I set it to 0 just before and after it checks and it always comes through as 1
[09:47] <ibanezmatt13> I think I could, but thorough testing first :)
[09:47] <Steve_G0TDJ> Of course
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[10:08] <fsphil> wind is picking up here
[10:08] <fsphil> looks like all the fun is going to be south of here though
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[10:16] <Herman-PB0AHX> gm all
[10:19] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Herman
[10:20] <number10> fsphil: fun :(
[10:21] <Herman-PB0AHX> morning steve
[10:21] <Herman-PB0AHX> anny ballon today ??
[10:21] <Steve_G0TDJ> Not as far as I know. We're expecting a storms over here in the UK anytime soon
[10:22] <Herman-PB0AHX> here also storm today abt 8 til 10 bft
[10:22] <Herman-PB0AHX> on this moment 6 to 7 bft
[10:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> Funny enough, it's clear skies here
[10:23] <Herman-PB0AHX> no lot of clouds here and some times rain here
[10:24] <Steve_G0TDJ> I@m sure it will be a lot worse for us later :-)
[10:24] <Herman-PB0AHX> hope al antennes not going down
[10:24] <Steve_G0TDJ> Some of us are preparing. I can't get to mine, just have to hope it stays
[10:26] <Herman-PB0AHX> but the lvb tracker turn my antennes i hope on the end of the day se stay
[10:27] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yes, we will just have to hope
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[10:29] <ibanezmatt13> Anybody know how I should read voltage into the Arduino from my battery? The max it'll ever be I guess is 1.5v
[10:30] <Steve_G0TDJ> VAYU just inputs it into an analogue port I think
[10:30] <ibanezmatt13> Not sure about the code though to get it
[10:30] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hold on, I'll check
[10:30] <ibanezmatt13> float voltage= sensorValue * (5.0 / 1024.0);
[10:30] <DL1SGP> all done :)
[10:30] <ibanezmatt13> from Arduino's website, scales input volage between 0 and 5
[10:31] <Steve_G0TDJ> I@ll have a look at the code
[10:31] <ibanezmatt13> ok cheers
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[10:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> ibanezmatt13: vbatt = ((3.3 / 1024)* analogRead(0) );
[10:33] <ibanezmatt13> why 3.3v may I ask?
[10:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> I expect cos the board runs on 3.3v?
[10:33] <ibanezmatt13> ok, that makes sense :P
[10:33] <ibanezmatt13> thanks
[10:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'm just guessing, you may need to have a chat with Chris
[10:34] <Steve_G0TDJ> the comment after that line: ((vcc / maxADC)* adcreading * voltageDividerRatio) was analogRead(1)
[10:34] <ibanezmatt13> right I see
[10:34] <ibanezmatt13> I'll have a play with it
[10:35] <Steve_G0TDJ> And you've just reminded me (indirectly) that the VAYU circuit isn't on the page in PDF format :-) Better sort that our
[10:35] <Steve_G0TDJ> out
[10:37] <ibanezmatt13> :)
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[10:43] <ibanezmatt13> https://github.com/ibanezmatt13/NORB_3/blob/master/NORB3.ino#L157 Steve_G0TDJ, should work I hope
[10:44] <Steve_G0TDJ> Looks good. DOn't forget to connect the batt line to PC0
[10:44] <ibanezmatt13> I've connected the bat line to A0
[10:44] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yep, that's it
[10:44] <Steve_G0TDJ> PC0 s the AVR designation for A0
[10:44] <ibanezmatt13> cool
[10:44] <ibanezmatt13> ah ok
[10:45] <cm13g09> yay for arduino ;)
[10:45] <Steve_G0TDJ> :-)
[10:45] <cm13g09> Steve_G0TDJ: I've got lots of Arduino based projects going on
[10:45] <cm13g09> too many in fact....
[10:45] <ibanezmatt13> I like Arduino
[10:45] <ibanezmatt13> much prefer it to Python
[10:45] <Steve_G0TDJ> Oh? I quite like them but I always struggle with 'C'
[10:46] <ibanezmatt13> I think I've just about made a decent transition from Python to C, just about
[10:46] <cm13g09> ibanezmatt13: You'd like me then.... one of projects involved Arduino-based units... talking to a PC running Python scripts... which provides the backend to a website running in PHP
[10:46] <ibanezmatt13> oh cool
[10:46] <cm13g09> yes, it's over-engineered...
[10:47] <DL1SGP> heh I have a similiar project right now cm13g09
[10:47] <cm13g09> It's got a full blown message-passing engine in there....
[10:47] <cm13g09> RabbitMQ, oh and Redis chucked in for good measure ;)
[10:47] <Steve_G0TDJ> The only programming language I really got to grips with was z80 assembler, hence my wish to design a Zilog chipped tracker
[10:47] <cm13g09> heh
[10:48] <cm13g09> oh, that's the other fun part of my project...
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[10:48] <cm13g09> it involves HC-11 TTL-232 serial wireless bridges...
[10:49] <cm13g09> They're based on the CC1101 chipset
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[10:49] <cm13g09> they might be £5 each, but they save so much hassle :P
[10:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> ibanezmatt13: http://www.projecthab.co.uk/VAYU_V1.02/VAYU-1.02.pdf
[10:50] <ibanezmatt13> same as mine for reading the vbatt
[10:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yep
[10:51] <ibanezmatt13> mine's not working
[10:51] <ibanezmatt13> :/
[10:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> Errrr
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[10:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> Have you got the VAYU code? You can downlaod from the wensite and see how Chris does it
[10:51] <ibanezmatt13> In the code, I simply read it into a float, convert it to a string, then add the string to the datastring
[10:52] <ibanezmatt13> I'll have a look
[10:53] <fsphil> there is a way to use floats in printf() functions directly but it's a pain
[10:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> vbatt = ((3.3 / 1024)* analogRead(0) ); // ((vcc / maxADC)* adcreading * voltageDividerRatio) was analogRead(1) dtostrf(vbatt,3,2,vbatts); // convert from float to string
[10:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> Sorry, that was two lines
[10:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> vbatt = ((3.3 / 1024)* analogRead(0) );
[10:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> dtostrf(vbatt,3,2,vbatts);
[10:54] <ibanezmatt13> yeah just reading it now. I think I might have messed up the prec and width fields of dtostrf
[10:54] <ibanezmatt13> one sec
[10:54] <fsphil> dtostrf has a very odd way of specifying the length
[10:55] <Steve_G0TDJ> Tell me about it
[10:56] <Steve_G0TDJ> When I was trying to add the colons to the time, I got lost in a mire of string commands....
[10:56] <fsphil> printf makes that easy
[10:56] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yes, I almost understand it too LOL
[10:56] <ibanezmatt13> vbatt = ((3.3 / 1024)* analogRead(0));
[10:56] <ibanezmatt13> dtostrf(vbatt,3,2,voltage);
[10:57] <ibanezmatt13> sprintf(datastring, "%s,%d,%s,%s,%s,%s,%d,%d,%d,%s", callsign, counter ,time, new_lat, new_lon, altitude, lock, flightmode, satellites, voltage);
[10:57] <ibanezmatt13> should work
[10:57] Action: fsphil suggests snprintf() for safety
[10:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> Phil?
[10:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> Whats the difference?
[10:57] <ibanezmatt13> I will look into snprintf later fsphil :)
[10:57] <fsphil> you tell snprintf how long your string can be, it'll never make it longer
[10:58] <Steve_G0TDJ> OK
[10:58] <fsphil> no chance of a buffer overflow
[10:58] <fsphil> which is easy to do by accident if you add items, and forget to give the string more memory
[10:58] Action: Steve_G0TDJ remebers that would have been standard practice in Z80 assembler
[10:58] <fsphil> then spend 20 minutes trying to figure out what's wrong :)
[10:59] <fsphil> I must try writing something in Z80 code someday. I was always a 6502/6510 guy
[10:59] <Steve_G0TDJ> I think the attraction of Z80 for me is that it's all immediate. None of this abstraction
[11:00] <ibanezmatt13> WOOOO
[11:00] <ibanezmatt13> 2.8V
[11:00] <ibanezmatt13> :D
[11:00] <Steve_G0TDJ> Well done :D
[11:01] <fsphil> I'd use C over assembly any day though :)
[11:01] <daveake> ++
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[11:01] <ibanezmatt13> ah it's stopped txing
[11:01] <Steve_G0TDJ> Buffer overflow
[11:01] <ibanezmatt13> started again
[11:01] <ibanezmatt13> hmm
[11:02] <Steve_G0TDJ> fsphil: daveake I'm slowly (and I mean snails pace) learning bits of 'C'
[11:02] <fsphil> you'll like C
[11:02] <Steve_G0TDJ> I already don't LOL
[11:02] <fsphil> that'll change :)
[11:02] <daveake> Much quicker to code in than assembler
[11:02] <fsphil> I hated C at the start
[11:02] <daveake> Meaning you can shoot yourself in the foot much more often
[11:02] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL
[11:03] <ibanezmatt13> Voltage is on Spacenea
[11:03] <ibanezmatt13> progress
[11:03] <Steve_G0TDJ> fsphil: I hope you're available for helping out occasionally
[11:03] <Steve_G0TDJ> I see it Matthew - Cool
[11:03] <fsphil> by helping you mean pointing and laughing?
[11:03] <Steve_G0TDJ> :D
[11:03] <fsphil> why yes of course I'll help :)
[11:03] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cheers
[11:04] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'm designing a tracker with the NTX2b - I'd like to prigram that from the ground up rather than 'borrowing' someone elses code
[11:04] <daveake> Yes it's much more entertaining to pull apart, er, comment on other people's code than it is to debug your own :)
[11:05] <DL1SGP> hehe daveake
[11:05] <fsphil> I tend to spot mistakes in other peoples code quicker than I would my own
[11:05] <fsphil> a perspective thing perhaps
[11:05] <daveake> yep
[11:05] <Steve_G0TDJ> Probably
[11:06] <Steve_G0TDJ> Matthew, whats the GPS Lock 2 signify?
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[11:09] <WillTablet> Morning
[11:09] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi
[11:10] Nick change: WillTablet -> RevWilldude123
[11:10] <fsphil> could be lock mode
[11:10] <Steve_G0TDJ> Are there different ones fsphil ?
[11:10] <Maxell> Hmm, neither the mailling list or my 5000 lines of backlog suggest anything about NORB_2 launching today.
[11:11] <Maxell> IT is however at a nice spot to launch.
[11:11] <Steve_G0TDJ> Matthew is testing Maxell
[11:11] <Maxell> Or is just ibanezmatt13 testing? :)
[11:11] <Steve_G0TDJ> ^
[11:11] <ibanezmatt13> testing
[11:11] <Maxell> :p
[11:11] <Maxell> Ok, thanks!
[11:11] <fsphil> on the ublox I have, 0 = no lock, 1 = lock, 2 = better lock (can't remember the name)
[11:11] <ibanezmatt13> I should really change it to NORB_Test :P
[11:11] <Steve_G0TDJ> Oh, it's a level thing
[11:12] <RevWilldude123> I can now legally perform marriages, provided I can prove my ordination
[11:12] <Maxell> hehe
[11:12] <RevWilldude123> (Universal Life Church)
[11:13] <Maxell> ibanezmatt13: not getting a lock at your GPS signal?? Satellites: 2098!
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[11:13] <ibanezmatt13> yes, I've since rectified that :)
[11:13] <fsphil> that's some ublox chip
[11:14] <ibanezmatt13> https://gist.github.com/ibanezmatt13/edfaea887141674a773f
[11:14] <ibanezmatt13> fsphil, it's our favourite ;)
[11:14] <ibanezmatt13> and guess what... it aint working
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[11:15] <ibanezmatt13> Temperature: -42.56, Humidity: -13.84
[11:15] <ibanezmatt13> :@
[11:16] <fsphil> did you put the error reporting back in?
[11:16] <ibanezmatt13> no
[11:16] <ibanezmatt13> https://gist.github.com/ibanezmatt13/51755259298677ef7629
[11:16] <ibanezmatt13> that one?
[11:16] <fsphil> the ACK error messages
[11:16] <mfa298> RevWilldude123: that might be the case in US law but I think you'll find UK law a bit more restrictive for marriage - althoguh this is very off topic.
[11:17] <fsphil> you need to find out how far it's getting
[11:17] <ibanezmatt13> right
[11:17] <fsphil> otherwise you're just poking in the dark
[11:17] <ibanezmatt13> I can't remember what we did
[11:17] <ibanezmatt13> yeah that's got them in hasn't it?
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[11:18] <DL1SGP> Guten Morgen Sven
[11:18] <cm13g09> morning mfa298
[11:18] <fsphil> it does
[11:18] <mfa298> morning cm13g09
[11:18] <RevWilldude123> Depends on the local govt by the looks of it
[11:19] Action: cm13g09 is still waiting on boards from China
[11:19] <cm13g09> :(
[11:19] <Steve_G0TDJ> cm13g09: Hackvana?
[11:19] <cm13g09> Steve_G0TDJ: yeah
[11:19] <Steve_G0TDJ> Mine took 11days from completion
[11:20] <cm13g09> Steve_G0TDJ: we're on about 14 now, and counting :(
[11:20] <fsphil> cool, git clone works over ssh
[11:20] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hmm, perhaps let Mitch know in #hackvana
[11:20] <cm13g09> he and I have speokne
[11:20] <Steve_G0TDJ> OK
[11:20] <cm13g09> it used to be so reliable as well :(
[11:20] <Steve_G0TDJ> Did you do the registered post thing?
[11:20] <cm13g09> yeah
[11:21] <Steve_G0TDJ> Well at least they will do you another batch if yours don't turn up
[11:21] <cm13g09> true :)
[11:21] <cm13g09> pity I've got customers nagging me for them now
[11:21] <Steve_G0TDJ> Have you had their boards bfore then?
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[11:22] <cm13g09> Steve_G0TDJ: I have done plenty of orders with Mitch before
[11:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> OK Cool. I was really impressed with the quality
[11:22] <cm13g09> but this is the first to come via China Post...
[11:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> Ah
[11:22] <cm13g09> used to be HK Post
[11:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> Right
[11:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'll be honest, I can't remember which I had now
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[11:37] <ibanezmatt13> does anybody on here know anything about the SHT11?
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[11:38] <Steve_G0TDJ> This Matthew: http://www.sensirion.com/fileadmin/user_upload/customers/sensirion/Dokumente/Humidity/Sensirion_Humidity_SHT1x_Datasheet_V5.pdf
[11:38] <ibanezmatt13> yes
[11:39] <ibanezmatt13> it truly is killing me
[11:39] <ibanezmatt13> I've been at it for days
[11:39] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'll have a look.
[11:39] <Steve_G0TDJ> It's probably something simple
[11:39] <ibanezmatt13> thank you. There's supposedly a library but when I try to use it I get really wierd results
[11:40] <ibanezmatt13> Temperature: -42.56, Humidity: -13.84 for instance
[11:40] <ibanezmatt13> should be as simple as this https://github.com/practicalarduino/SHT1x/blob/master/examples/ReadSHT1xValues/ReadSHT1xValues.pde
[11:41] <Steve_G0TDJ> Didn't you say the other day that if there's a comms problem it defaults to 42deg?
[11:41] <ibanezmatt13> it defaults to -40
[11:41] <ibanezmatt13> when I change the pins from 4 and 5, I get -40, with 4 and 5 I get something close to that
[11:41] <ibanezmatt13> So I can't tell :
[11:41] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hmmm.... phone
[11:41] <Steve_G0TDJ> brb
[11:42] <Broliv> I wonder if someone can help me with somthing on spacenear.us that happened yesterday?
[11:43] <DL1SGP> If you told us what it was we might be able to help :)
[11:43] <mfa298> Broliv: best to ask the question then anyone that can answer will
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[11:45] <Broliv> While i was setting up I noticed that my payload magically appeared in bemuda. It would have been nice if that was the case ;) However there was no GPS lock at the time so not sure why spacenear.us showed it up there
[11:45] <Broliv> I've been checking on habitat to see if my payload upload some dodgy telemetry but everything looks normal
[11:45] <fsphil> I think it defaults there if there is no GPS data in the string
[11:46] <Broliv> ahh that would explain it
[11:46] <fsphil> but yes it would be nice to launch there :)
[11:46] <Broliv> I'll need to make sure i keep dl-flidgi in offline mode while setting up
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[11:49] <Broliv> If the GPS looses lock during the flight and No GPS data is uploaded would it place the hab in Bemuda then or just use the last uploaded GPS position?
[11:50] <daveake> You can put a filter on spacenear so (e.g.) it ignores positions if number of sats < 4
[11:51] <daveake> or, in your payload, ignore sentences without a lock, and don't send lat/long till you get a lock
[11:51] <Upu> should be hardcoded for all flights tbh
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[11:51] <Broliv> cheers for the tip dave
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[11:55] <Broliv> yeah, i'm going to re-do bits of the code based on yesterdays experiance. I thought sending 'no GPS lock' may be useful if the GPS is lost in flight. Not sending any strings if the GPS lock is not established is going to cause less problems
[11:56] <Upu> have a look at the payload doc for PAVA
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[11:57] <daveake> Broliv You can still send strings before lock, just don't fill in lat/long
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> Always send strings with lat/lon - but indicate that it's the last good one, not current
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> And ideally how old that fix is.
[11:59] <daveake> Yes I mean before he gets a lock
[11:59] <daveake> After that yes re-send the last position if you lose lock
[11:59] <SpeedEvil> ah
[12:06] <Broliv> No probs cheers guys :)
[12:07] <Broliv> Thanks Anthony, I seewhat you mean with the post parse filter
[12:07] <Upu> yeah I think it should be standard tbh
[12:07] <Upu> I'll speak to the powers that be
[12:07] <Upu> just posted your mail btw
[12:07] <Upu> you're welcome
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[13:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> afternoon all
[13:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> could someone listen at 21.435 MHz for dominoEX22 :) ?
[13:23] <fsphil> ooooh
[13:23] <SP9UOB-Tom> oooh what :) ?
[13:23] <fsphil> did you launch something tx'ing on 21mhz?
[13:24] <fsphil> I've not checked yet :)
[13:24] <SP9UOB-Tom> no, im just preparing
[13:24] <fsphil> if I receive something it'll be a wooooo rather than an ooooh :)
[13:24] <SP9UOB-Tom> wait a sec, i have just fried PA
[13:25] <fsphil> eek
[13:25] <fsphil> 21.435 usb? what offset?
[13:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> USB, dial 21.435, actual tx starts from .436
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[13:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok tx is working again
[13:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> i love BS170 :-)
[13:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: could You do WSPR ?
[13:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> receive i mean
[13:39] Nick change: ibanezmatt13 -> I-HATE-sht11
[13:39] Action: I-HATE-sht11 very much
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[13:41] <SP9UOB-Tom> ping fsphil
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[13:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> hi Leo, Can you try to listen at 21.435 MHz?
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[13:43] <I-HATE-sht11> I think he's just having lunch SP9UOB-Tom
[13:43] <Laurenceb__> according to NOAA this UK storm thing is BS
[13:43] <Laurenceb__> accept for south coast
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[13:46] <Willdude123> Not quite sure what to look for on HF, understanding the band plan is difficult. Is scanning around till I hear something a good idea?
[13:47] <mfa298> band plans are there to help you find stuff (or know where to find things your interested in)
[13:48] <mfa298> for testing if a station setup is working I tend to use 20m first as that's generally pretty packed with traffic. If you don't hear much you need to sort out a better antenna.
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[13:57] <fsphil> pong SP9UOB-Tom: not sure, the wspr program is a bit iffy on linux
[13:57] <fsphil> can give it a spin
[13:58] <Willdude123> mfa298, I have a huge bit of wire. I'll see what I can hear and where
[13:58] <DL1SGP> SP9UOB-Tom: still looking for listeners?
[13:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> mom, i have to reprogram my tracker for wspr
[13:58] <fsphil> are you still doing domex?
[13:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: yes, can we try @21.435 MHz ?
[13:59] <fsphil> I'm setup for that now
[13:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: no, moment
[13:59] <DL1SGP> let me get the wspr program installed and then I am open to try it on 21.435
[13:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: no
[14:00] <DL1SGP> no?
[14:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: first dominoex22 at 21.435 USB
[14:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: then WSPR
[14:00] <DL1SGP> okies :) that works too
[14:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> later i mean :-)
[14:00] <fsphil> ok I'm on 21.435 USB dial
[14:00] <fsphil> what's the offset?
[14:01] <mfa298> Willdude123: sometimes shorter is better, or a different location. For 20m ~5m of wire to the centre of the coax and ~5m on the braid with each going in different directions should give reasonable results.
[14:01] <DL1SGP> SP9UOB-Tom: there are contest stations calling there
[14:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: 1 kZh
[14:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> kHz
[14:01] <fsphil> tuned
[14:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> im transmitting with 100mW out
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[14:02] <fsphil> yea I've got a contest station over that
[14:02] <tweetBot> @M0TFC: Wondering if our HAB should have a turbine instread of solar panels ! In this wind. #ukhas #ukstorm
[14:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: could You search for something quiet?
[14:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> i can retune
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[14:03] <DL1SGP> if you could aim at 21.090 MHz :D it would be cool
[14:03] <tweetBot> @M0TFC: Wondering if our HAB project should have a turbine instead of solar panels ! In this wind. #ukstorm #ukhas
[14:04] <fsphil> 21.090 is quiet here
[14:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> moment
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[14:05] <fsphil> domex16?
[14:05] <Herman-PB0AHX> Norb-2 is still flying today and what is the frequency than
[14:06] <fsphil> it's just testing Herman-PB0AHX
[14:06] <I-HATE-sht11> I'll change NORB2 to NORB test, sorry
[14:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: domex22 but can do anything starting from 4
[14:06] <fsphil> try 22 first
[14:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok im on 21.090
[14:06] <fsphil> is it tx'ing now?
[14:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> yes
[14:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> dial 0.89
[14:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> dial 21.089
[14:07] <fsphil> ah, I was on 090 dial
[14:07] <fsphil> retuned
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[14:07] <Herman-PB0AHX> norb not on 434 ????
[14:07] <fsphil> not seeing anything SP9UOB-Tom
[14:07] <Herman-PB0AHX> i have no hf here sorry
[14:08] <DL1SGP> Herman, we are running a tiny experiment, the frequency mentioned is not related to NORB
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[14:08] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: im going to switch to domex4
[14:08] <fsphil> ok. same frequency?
[14:08] <fsphil> now at domex4 21.089+1000hz
[14:09] <SP9UOB-Tom> yes
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[14:09] <SP9UOB-Tom> sloooooow :-)
[14:09] <fsphil> very lol
[14:09] <fsphil> I thought I heard it
[14:10] <fsphil> but don't see anything
[14:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: any traces?
[14:10] <fsphil> aye there is something there
[14:10] <DL1SGP> nothing here
[14:10] <fsphil> faded
[14:10] <fsphil> mignt not be it
[14:10] <DL1SGP> ah there is something
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[14:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: domex4
[14:11] <fsphil> I'm not getting anything meaningful decoded
[14:11] <DL1SGP> are you transmitting?
[14:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> yes
[14:11] <DL1SGP> 21.090?
[14:11] <fsphil> 21.089 dial
[14:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> yes, dial -1 kHz
[14:11] <fsphil> 1000hz offset
[14:12] <fsphil> are you transmitting numbers?
[14:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> DOMINOEX: $$$$$$SP9UOB,4,000000,000.0,000.0,0,0,0,0,1022,0,200*025f
[14:12] <fsphil> X9,r6200a
[14:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> WOW
[14:12] <fsphil> hmm
[14:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> i put GPS on
[14:12] <Willdude123> mfa298, mine is connected directly to the radio
[14:13] <Willdude123> But yeah
[14:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: DOMINOEX: $$$$$$SP9UOB,5,141305,5016.6486,01839.2126,272,0,0,8,1003,0,24b*01be
[14:13] <fsphil> is your frequency slightly higher?
[14:13] <fsphil> oh wow
[14:13] <fsphil> $$^$$$SS96ttenO0n5
[14:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> littlebit
[14:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> WOW
[14:13] <fsphil> there you are
[14:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> AMAZING
[14:13] <mfa298> in that case 5m of cable into the centre of the so239 is likely to do well if you can get most of the cable outside
[14:13] <fsphil> -$$^$$$SS96ttenO0n5tPX'et488e,01839.aLa6,
[14:13] <fsphil> definitly your data there
[14:14] <fsphil> o03,0,24b*0e
[14:14] <fsphil> the checksum
[14:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> this is actually less than 90 mW at roof anttenna
[14:14] <fsphil> amazing
[14:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> DOMINOEX: $$$$$$SP9UOB,6,141405,5016.6487,01839.2128,272,0,0,8,1094,0,24b*d44c
[14:14] <fsphil> my antenna is just a crude vertical
[14:15] <fsphil> 01839.o 2 t27a,0,0J8tonaoa40,2o=oo4 - taK2S ?
[14:15] <DL1SGP> Tom, where are you in Poland?
[14:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: JO90HG, Gliwice, upper Silesia region
[14:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: i vave to launch it !
[14:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> have
[14:16] <Willdude123> I ordered a USB to DB9 cable with a DB9 to DB25 null modem cable
[14:16] <fsphil> totally
[14:16] <fsphil> that was cool
[14:16] <fsphil> what range is that? 1500km?
[14:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: so switch to WSPR :-) ?
[14:17] <fsphil> lemme compile it up
[14:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok
[14:17] <fsphil> your frequency does seem to be a bit higher than +1000hz
[14:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: yes, the crystal is warm
[14:17] <Willdude123> I'm hoping this http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00077DJIQ/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item will fit into this http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00066HL50/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item
[14:17] <DL1SGP> SP9UOB-Tom: might be we are a bit close for this experiment right now, tried both antennas, no joy... but will install WSPR and give that a try too
[14:18] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok, im going to reprogram
[14:20] <mfa298> Willdude123: assuming you need a null modem cable to connect to the radio it should work.
[14:20] <Willdude123> Yes, it shows that in the manual
[14:21] <mfa298> although depending on what control software you use you might have issues with a cheap usb/serial device,
[14:21] <Willdude123> I'll start writing a GUI frontend for it in pythob
[14:21] <Willdude123> *python
[14:22] <mfa298> you might also find a cheap adapter increases the noise floor on the radio.
[14:22] <Willdude123> Most programs for it were made in like 1999 anyhow.
[14:22] <mfa298> but it's a starting point
[14:22] <Willdude123> Ah well, I'll see. I have little to lose.
[14:22] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: im transmitting now :-)
[14:22] <mfa298> the popular program for radio control is ham radio deluxe (at least before it was sold off)
[14:22] <fsphil> still trying to get it working
[14:23] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok
[14:23] <SP9UOB-Tom> im using wspr program on linux with no problems
[14:23] <fsphil> it was made by people who don't use linux
[14:23] <Willdude123> mfa298, who was it sold off too and why is it no good anymore?
[14:24] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: if You have partially decodes of domex, you should have WSPR with no problems :-)
[14:24] <fsphil> definitly
[14:24] Nick change: I-HATE-sht11 -> WOO
[14:24] <fsphil> would be interesting to try thor too
[14:24] <mfa298> it's more that it's something you have to buy (it used to be free)
[14:24] <mfa298> but you should still be able to get the free version
[14:24] <fsphil> ah, compiled without complaint
[14:25] <fsphil> are you on the same frequency?
[14:25] <Willdude123> I'd rather make my own program TBH
[14:25] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: noo, set dial to: 21.0946
[14:25] <SP9UOB-Tom> transmission is begining every even minute
[14:26] <SP9UOB-Tom> now
[14:27] <fsphil> hit a python error...
[14:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> strange... it is written in fortran...
[14:29] <fsphil> it's written in C, fortran and python
[14:29] <fsphil> never a good mix
[14:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: i have to understand it before porting to PIC...
[14:30] <fsphil> No module named Image
[14:30] <fsphil> but there is
[14:30] <fsphil> it's installed
[14:32] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: maybe i should send You compiled version?
[14:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> ie compressed folder?
[14:34] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: or switch to domex again and go to 10 Mhz
[14:35] <fsphil> would be simpler lol
[14:35] <fsphil> there needs to be a proper version of wspr made sometime
[14:36] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: are You there ?
[14:36] <SP9UOB-Tom> 2013-10-27 14:34 SP9UOB-Tom 21.096118 -13 "" JO90hg 1 K9AN EN50wc 7699 308
[14:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> lol
[14:37] <DL1SGP> SP9UOB-Tom: WSPR does not seem to like me either, getting a black waterfall and no decodes whereas they are audible
[14:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> im in states
[14:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: THATS ok
[14:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: waterfall is not realtime
[14:37] Nick change: WOO -> ibanezmatt13
[14:38] <DL1SGP> hehe I had it running for LONG
[14:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: You have to wait whole 2 minute cycle
[14:38] <DL1SGP> and it just stays black
[14:38] <DL1SGP> trying again
[14:38] <Steve_G0TDJ> ibanezmatt13: OK I@ll do that from now on
[14:38] <ibanezmatt13> awesome
[14:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> whats in status bar on the bottom right
[14:39] <DL1SGP> waiting to start
[14:39] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok
[14:39] <SP9UOB-Tom> in 10 sec..
[14:39] <SP9UOB-Tom> will run
[14:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> now
[14:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> does it change to "Receiving" ?
[14:40] <fsphil> I'm heading out for a few minutes. will try wspr again when I get back
[14:41] <DL1SGP> no
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[14:42] <DL1SGP> I can hear a signal perfectly in timing though
[14:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> ibanezmatt13: e-mail sent
[14:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> well, there must be someting in Your setup
[14:42] <ibanezmatt13> thanks Steve_G0TDJ, I'll sort it this week
[14:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> Cool, no rush
[14:42] <Steve_G0TDJ> I@m going to do some late lunch ;-)
[14:43] <ibanezmatt13> there's always time for lunch :)
[14:43] <Steve_G0TDJ> :-) Speak to you later Matt
[14:43] Nick change: Steve_G0TDJ -> Steve_G0TDJ_AFK
[14:43] <ibanezmatt13> see you
[14:46] <DL1SGP> got it to work now SP9UOB-Tom
[14:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok tracker is transmitting
[14:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> click "txmute" pls
[14:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: K9AN is receiving me in US http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots
[14:47] <DL1SGP> great
[14:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/map
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[14:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: something decoded?
[14:49] <DL1SGP> wait doing some last tweaks
[14:50] <DL1SGP> let's see on next cycles
[14:50] <g4fui_martin> Some interesting distortions in space/time on wsprnet . ..
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[14:56] <DL1SGP> SP9UOB-Tom: it is starting to decode now, but rather DX :D
[14:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: i can switch to 10 MHz, just have to reprogram DDS :-)
[14:58] <DL1SGP> I do not think that will be required, matter of fact is taht you got decodes in the states, the rest is just propagation related
[14:58] <DL1SGP> but the setup works
[15:00] <DL1SGP> and fsphil heard you on the 15m DOmEX test, so that works too :)
[15:00] <DL1SGP> when will you launch :P ?
[15:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: in few weeks
[15:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> im considering 21 and 28 MHz
[15:02] <DL1SGP> sounds good to me
[15:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> wspr is good in far Asia.. :-)
[15:04] <DL1SGP> hehe
[15:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: 2013-10-27 14:58 SP9UOB-Tom 21.096159 +8 1 JO90hg 1 G6WZA IO80mv 1520 281
[15:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> G6WZA
[15:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> stupid completion ;-)
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[15:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> so fsphil sholld also decode
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[15:09] <DL1SGP> lol
[15:10] <DL1SGP> did you get any decodes in northern DL yet Tom?
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[15:17] <eroomde> raintoday.co.uk
[15:17] <eroomde> you can see it just looming off cornwall
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[15:19] <ibanezmatt13> NORB_Test is lookin good, got all fields on spaceneare
[15:19] <dl7ad-mob> Good afternoon
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[15:19] <ibanezmatt13> afternoon
[15:20] <DL1SGP> Guten Nachmittag Sven
[15:20] <dl7ad-mob> Moin moin
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[15:24] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: no at 21 MHz
[15:25] <DL1SGP> good :)
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[15:36] <DL1SGP> SP9UOB-Tom: I will be afk for a bit but got it running on 30m now if you wanted to give a try, feel free
[15:36] <ibanezmatt13> hey eroomde, check out space near :)
[15:37] <eroomde> i see a norb_test
[15:37] <eroomde> nice work
[15:37] <ibanezmatt13> thanks :)
[15:39] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: wspr yes ?
[15:40] <DL1SGP> yes
[15:40] <DL1SGP> mni EU stations getting in :)
[15:40] <eroomde> the new msp430 chips look pretty cool
[15:41] <eroomde> they're FRAM memory
[15:41] <eroomde> you decide how to partition the frame between 'flash' and 'ram'
[15:41] <eroomde> partition the fram*
[15:41] <eroomde> and they're incredibly low power and impervious to radiation
[15:41] <eroomde> should be just the thing for an arctic floater or cubesat
[15:43] <SpeedEvil> http://www.yr.no/kart/#lat=56.20214&lon=-3.13517&zoom=5&laga=vind&baseid=PunktUtlandet%3A2643016&proj=900913
[15:43] <SpeedEvil> REally neat
[15:44] <SpeedEvil> Especially when you hit play
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[16:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: are You here ?
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[16:04] <DL1SGP> SP9UOB-Tom: you are not in my heard-list yet
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[16:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: im improoving dominoex now
[16:05] <DL1SGP> ah if you need me to switch mode just let me know :)
[16:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> im on 21.089 USB DOMex16 now
[16:06] <DL1SGP> I gonna check if I hear something
[16:07] <DL1SGP> tx-ing tom?
[16:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> now
[16:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> yes
[16:07] <DL1SGP> nothing heard here, sorry
[16:08] <SP9UOB-Tom> domex16
[16:08] <SP9UOB-Tom> + 1 kHz
[16:08] <Reb-SM3ULC> SpeedEvil: Funny thing is that a lot of swedes use yr.no but allmost all calculation is done in Linköping in Sweden..
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[16:08] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: could You find claar qrg on 10 MHz ?
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[16:08] <SP9UOB-Tom> clear
[16:09] <DL1SGP> I can check, any restrictions tuning wise for you?
[16:09] <SP9UOB-Tom> no from 0 Hz to 60 Mhz ;)
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[16:10] <DL1SGP> 10.144
[16:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok qsy, domex4
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[16:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: im on
[16:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: dial -1 kHz
[16:12] <DL1SGP> ok can you stop txing for a sec?
[16:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> USB
[16:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> stopped
[16:13] <DL1SGP> we have a Winlink WINMOR mailbox there by the sound of it
[16:13] <DL1SGP> let me find another spot
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[16:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: i have realtively quiet here
[16:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> tune to 10.143
[16:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> and loot +1 Khz
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[16:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> look
[16:14] <DL1SGP> saw you
[16:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: try to decode :-)
[16:15] <DL1SGP> getting there
[16:15] Action: SP9UOB-Tom is going for caffe break
[16:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: :-)
[16:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> got green ?
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[16:17] <DL1SGP> not using the hab fldigi
[16:17] <LeoBodnar> A5@51@>< =025@=>5
[16:18] <LeoBodnar> bah
[16:18] <DL1SGP> lol
[16:18] <x-f> in this day a year ago we had 35cm of snow, this year it is +16C
[16:18] <LeoBodnar> evening!
[16:18] <x-f> random fact
[16:18] <x-f> hello
[16:18] <Upu> evening all
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[16:18] <DL1SGP> hi Upu, antenna still OK?
[16:18] <Upu> not got to us yet
[16:18] <Upu> its a little windy
[16:20] <LeoBodnar> Michael Fish chuckles somewhere
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[16:21] <Willdude> mfa298, hearing a lot on 20m, nothing readable though
[16:21] <Willdude> Just high pitched CQs
[16:22] <mfa298> Willdude: that probably just means you're tuning is slightly off
[16:22] <mfa298> as you tune carefully you'll hear them become a more normal pitch
[16:22] <Willdude> Tried tuning around, but still not normal pitch
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[16:23] <mfa298> if it's high pitched that just means your tuning is off by a couple of hundred hz
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[16:24] <LeoBodnar> I am shocked nobody made self-correcting SSB kit
[16:25] <DL1SGP> LeoBodnar: get it patented :D
[16:25] <LeoBodnar> Analysing spectral content and aligning so that harmonics fit is trivial
[16:25] <LeoBodnar> It's not even worth thinking about the details
[16:26] <Upu> going to ride the storm Leo ?
[16:27] <LeoBodnar> Is it coming then? You need to ring the BBC Upu :D
[16:27] <Upu> I've not seen it yet
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[16:28] <Upu> Even parked the antenna
[16:28] <Upu> http://i.imgur.com/ot9SJnp.jpg
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[16:29] <LeoBodnar> Ah, yeah, higher frequency self-oscillatory modes in this position
[16:29] <LeoBodnar> You can still track overhead
[16:30] <Upu> lol
[16:30] <Upu> colinear is still there
[16:30] <Willdude> mfa298, sorry did you say anything? my internet cut out, like it does every 2-3 minutes
[16:31] <Willdude> Upu my boards are being remade and then being sent out with the same crappy postage the first lot were, so no rush to post the antenna :)
[16:31] <Upu> china post ?
[16:31] <cm13g09> Willdude: are you suffering from Chinapost syndrome?
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[16:31] <Willdude> Yup
[16:32] <cm13g09> interesting...
[16:32] <cm13g09> so am I!
[16:32] <Willdude> It was supposed to be HK post but there was some problem
[16:32] <cm13g09> yeah
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[16:32] <cm13g09> Mitch did tell me
[16:32] <Willdude> I wish there were affordable UK PCB manufacturers
[16:33] <cm13g09> yep - until I found Mitch, I was using PCBTrain
[16:33] <cm13g09> horrendously expensive
[16:34] <mfa298> Willdude: 16:23 < mfa298> if it's high pitched that just means your tuning is off by a couple of hundred hz
[16:34] <cm13g09> but I at least knew where my boards were as I used to order APC Overnight courier for the boards
[16:34] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: eneving, fsphil got partial decodes of my 100 mW @ 21 MHz :-)
[16:34] <cm13g09> meanwhile, my boards were last seen in China 2 weeks ago :(
[16:34] <Upu> thats impressive :)
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[16:35] <Willdude123> Sorry for the joins and quits, as you all know my internet is useless
[16:35] <cm13g09> Willdude123: are you cloning yourself ;)
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[16:37] <Willdude123> Slow internet makes me depressed
[16:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: can You listen at 10 MHz ?
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[16:38] <Upu> negative
[16:38] <Upu> no antenna
[16:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> Pity
[16:38] <gb73d> nice hf work SP9
[16:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: so go to WSPR@10 MHz :-)
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[16:40] <DL1SGP> okies
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[16:41] <DL1SGP> I am on 30m WSPR now SP9UOB-Tom
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[16:42] <DL1SGP> and reporting to the map :)
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[16:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: ok, in 1:30s
[16:43] <Laurenceb__> /ignore Willdude*@* ALL
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[16:43] <Willdude> Laurenceb you could just ignore joins and quits
[16:44] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: txinx
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[16:45] <DL1SGP> ok
[16:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: got decode ?
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[16:46] <DL1SGP> which spot do you transmit on Tom ?
[16:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> littlebit over 200 Hz
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[16:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> ON7KO got me
[16:47] <DL1SGP> it did not decode you this time but there is a line visible :)
[16:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spotquery type sp9uob in call and click update
[16:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> LA5GOA
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[16:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: DK6UG got me
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[16:51] <DL1SGP> switched antennas, that might help
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[16:54] <Laurenceb__> http://www.maximintegrated.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/5527
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[16:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: nope as i can see
[16:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> but there is much stations that can decode me
[16:59] <DL1SGP> yep
[17:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok, im going to artifical antenna to improve domino :-)
[17:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> thanks for testing
[17:00] <DL1SGP> welcome
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[17:04] <fsphil> SP9UOB-Tom: you still testing?
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[17:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: ic, if You wish
[17:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: i can, if You wish
[17:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> which band ?
[17:05] <fsphil> surprise me
[17:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> 136 kHz :) ?
[17:05] <fsphil> that would surprise me
[17:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> lol
[17:06] <fsphil> 10mhz?
[17:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> sure, wspr or domex?
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[17:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> or rtty ?
[17:07] <fsphil> ooh lets try rtty
[17:07] <fsphil> unlikely to work
[17:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> can You find quiet frequency for You ?
[17:08] <fsphil> 10.150 usb seems clear
[17:09] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: 10.1495 ok ? (150 is band edge)
[17:09] <fsphil> yea
[17:10] <fsphil> seems quiet
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[17:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> mom, programmer is on strike
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[17:12] <fsphil> hah
[17:12] <fsphil> so what is transmitting these?
[17:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> nope
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[17:32] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: resolved
[17:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> SDR-Radio now has a fully working CAT system, which with dl-fldigi will track drifting transmitters http://v2.sdr-radio.com/Download.aspx
[17:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: 10.149 50 baud 7n2
[17:34] <SpeedEvil> :)
[17:34] Nick change: ms7821_ -> ms7821
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[17:35] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: +500 Hz shift 240 Hz
[17:35] <Maxell> Geoff-G8DHE: build in (dl-)fldigi support, or still your hack?
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[17:36] <fsphil> tuned SP9UOB-Tom
[17:37] <fsphil> not seeing anything on the waterfall
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[17:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> pity
[17:38] <fsphil> wonder if it's the band
[17:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok, im going back to my domex
[17:38] <fsphil> okie, domex on the same frequency?
[17:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> domex4
[17:39] <SP9UOB-Tom> the same freq
[17:39] <fsphil> ready
[17:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> The CAT files for use with dl-fldifi are on my site as http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/sdr_test_vfo.zip
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[17:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: im on
[17:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> ait
[17:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> air
[17:40] <fsphil> ok I see you
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[17:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> lowest bin is at 10.149.5
[17:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> Well its built in using the CAT commands - not that the CAT system has that much going for it! But it does work!
[17:41] <fsphil> well I did, gone again
[17:42] <fsphil> still nothing
[17:43] <fsphil> wonder if 14mhz would work better
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[17:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: please check for quiet frequency :-)
[17:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> @14 MHz
[17:43] <fsphil> ah you're back
[17:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> @10 ?
[17:43] <fsphil> and a nearby station wiped it out
[17:44] <fsphil> yea on 10
[17:44] <SP9UOB-Tom> qsb
[17:44] <fsphil> right checking 20m
[17:44] <fsphil> 14061 is clear here
[17:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> dial or tx?
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[17:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: this is wspr
[17:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: this is wspr frequency
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[17:46] <fsphil> ah, lemme try another
[17:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> try to find another one
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[17:46] <fsphil> 14051?
[17:46] <Maxell> Is B-22 (M0XER-1) equiped with an APRS transmitter or is just someone relaying?
[17:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> dial or TX ?
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[17:47] <fsphil> tx
[17:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok
[17:47] <fsphil> I'm tuned to 150
[17:47] <fsphil> 1khz offset
[17:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> It has both 434.5MHz Domino and 144.8MHz APRS Maxell
[17:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> its a broadband Tx chip
[17:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: im onair
[17:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: domex4
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[17:49] <fsphil> I see it
[17:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: can You decode ?
[17:49] <Maxell> Geoff-G8DHE: sexy stuff
[17:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> It had to wait until his callsign had come thru!
[17:50] <fsphil> only getting fragments
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[17:52] <fsphil> not as good as 21mhz earlier
[17:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: i can turn my IC9100 on and put 100Watts :-)
[17:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: so 21 MHZ ?
[17:52] <fsphil> t,t0*987krrJ-M$$$$$r
[17:52] <DL1SGP> lol Tom
[17:52] <fsphil> haha
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[17:52] <fsphil> 100 watts would do it ;)
[17:52] <fsphil> 124,V71
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[17:53] <fsphil> oh that's better
[17:53] <fsphil> a124,V71,0wX,5,1,0,2oy*b Gt
[17:53] <fsphil> still far from a full decode
[17:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: look for quiet @21 Mhz
[17:53] <fsphil> $$$`$$Saoa
[17:53] <fsphil> okie
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[17:55] <fsphil> same as before. 21.090
[17:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok
[17:55] <fsphil> tuned to 21.089
[17:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> onair
[17:56] <fsphil> nothing
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[17:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> day propagation is gone
[17:57] <fsphil> a few commas appearing
[17:57] <fsphil> but probably just noise
[17:57] <fsphil> I don't see anything on the waterfall
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[17:57] <fsphil> what's the best band for this time of day?
[17:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> to UK? 7 mhz maybe
[17:58] <fsphil> ooh worth a try
[17:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> but there is lots of contesters
[17:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> try to find something quiet
[17:59] <fsphil> 7060 seems quite atm
[18:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> LSB
[18:00] <fsphil> oh busy now
[18:00] <fsphil> usb
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[18:03] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: got something clear?
[18:04] <fsphil> one sec
[18:04] <fsphil> got called away
[18:05] <fsphil> it's busy
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[18:05] <fsphil> 7030?
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[18:08] <SP9UOB-Tom> usb?
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[18:09] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: transmitting
[18:09] <fsphil> yea
[18:09] <fsphil> I'm tuned to 7029 usb
[18:09] <fsphil> +1000hz offset
[18:09] <SP9UOB-Tom> domex4
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[18:10] <fsphil> can see something that looks like it, but not decoding anythg
[18:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> DOMINOEX: $$$$$$SP9UOB,1,000000,000.0,000.0,0,0,0,0,1016,0,200*b7ee
[18:11] <fsphil> nah. 10mhz and 14mhz where better
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[18:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: im considering 28 or 21 Mhz for flight
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[18:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> 21 MHz during the day should assure decent range
[18:13] <fsphil> 21mhz worked well earlier
[18:13] <fsphil> indeed
[18:14] <fsphil> I must see if I can wire up my avr to the ft817
[18:14] <fsphil> try transmitting some thor
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[18:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: buy this: http://midnightdesignsolutions.com/dds60/
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[18:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: and play :-)
[18:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> just 1:1 coupling transformer and You can connect antenna
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[18:17] <fsphil> I actually have one somewhere
[18:18] <fsphil> must dig that out
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[18:22] <fsphil> what's the LOAD line do?
[18:23] <SP9UOB-Tom> on DDS ?
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[18:23] <fsphil> yea
[18:23] <SP9UOB-Tom> it writes data from shift register to DDS core
[18:24] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dongenergy.co.uk/ :)
[18:25] <fsphil> I'll try wiring that up. I've a spair arduino here
[18:25] <fsphil> spare
[18:25] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: just get AD9851 pdf
[18:26] <SP9UOB-Tom> its simple
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[18:27] <fsphil> annoying that the dds needs 12v
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[18:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> no
[18:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> 5V or 3v3 if you clock it down
[18:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> just bypas regulator on the board
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[18:30] <fsphil> ah I'll leave it tonight. got a 9v battery here
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[18:39] <fsphil> doesn't look too bad
[18:39] <fsphil> just pull the LOAD line low, then clock in data through the other pins
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[18:58] <fsphil> all very calm here tonight. kinda boring :)
[18:58] <Laurenceb__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNeO1tg-9Oc&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLKUrCJ4J8pZFVQEUB2Pl7466S-qPlN83G
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[19:06] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[19:07] <DL1SGP1> Guten Abend Lunar_Lander
[19:07] Nick change: DL1SGP1 -> DL1SGP
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[19:09] <Lunar_Lander> hallo
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[19:11] <ibanezmatt13> anybody know anything about Arduino with SD cards? :/
[19:12] <ibanezmatt13> For once, I actually want it to print nothing, but it prints "failed to initialise" all the time :
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[19:14] <ibanezmatt13> is there anything wrong with this? http://pasteboard.co/P3PNDvx.png
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[19:16] <DL7AD_> good evening....
[19:17] <Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CdhdCbDch6A#t=527
[19:18] <Laurenceb__> this is not sane
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[20:12] <ibanezmatt13> this storm hit yet?
[20:12] <chrisstubbs> hi ibanezmatt13
[20:12] <ibanezmatt13> hey chrisstubbs :)
[20:13] <ibanezmatt13> you know anything? :/
[20:13] <chrisstubbs> My antenna is still standing :D
[20:13] <chrisstubbs> Right SD time, let me have a look
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[20:13] <ibanezmatt13> awesomem PM dude
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[20:22] <Laurenceb__> this storm is bullshit
[20:22] <Laurenceb__> nothing bad on NOAA forecast
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[20:29] <tweetBot> @M0TFC: We braved the #ukstorm for our club meeting. Very productive ! HAB project on track. Circuit board etching next meeting ! #hamr #ukhas
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[20:57] <cm13g09> I am either having a blonde moment, or something weird is going on :P
[20:57] <cm13g09> probably the former
[20:57] <DL1SGP> heh
[20:58] <cm13g09> I've got 4 wireless modules here
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[20:58] <cm13g09> all of them transparent TTL-232 bridges
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[20:58] <cm13g09> all of them with the same channel, and unique addresses
[20:58] <cm13g09> (as expected)
[20:58] <cm13g09> connect to Arduino, not getting any data back...
[20:58] <Laurenceb__> bullshit "storm" is BS
[20:59] <cm13g09> Connect to USBTTL adaptor (FTDI)
[20:59] <cm13g09> and I get data....
[20:59] Action: cm13g09 is confused
[21:00] <DL1SGP> Are they using correct TTL Levels for use in conjunction with Arduino?
[21:00] <cm13g09> yup
[21:00] <cm13g09> I have had it somewhere
[21:00] <DL1SGP> :D
[21:00] <cm13g09> and it was working....
[21:01] <cm13g09> hence why I'm confused!
[21:01] <cm13g09> I'm fairly sure it's code-related
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[21:01] <DL1SGP> have you checked your basement, freezer and yard for any sneaky ninja goats?
[21:01] <cm13g09> lol
[21:03] <cm13g09> given that these HC-11 modules (the TTL-232 bridges) are based on the CC1101
[21:03] <cm13g09> I'm fairly sure it's not their problem
[21:03] <mfa298> Laurenceb__: we've had bits of heavy rain and strong winds down in the south. Although I think some of it wasn't due to hit until overnight
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[21:04] <cm13g09> not least since I see the transmitted data on the 2 RXs hooked up to the PC via USB-TTLs
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[21:05] <cm13g09> more annoyingly, there's limited options for debugging
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[21:06] <DL1SGP> you want to send through them right?
[21:06] <cm13g09> and receive ;
[21:06] <cm13g09> * ;)
[21:06] <cm13g09> this is non-HAB stuff
[21:06] <DL1SGP> well as they can do both makes sense :D
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[21:06] <cm13g09> yeah
[21:06] <cm13g09> like I say
[21:07] <cm13g09> before I tweaked some code earlier to support a particular config
[21:07] <cm13g09> I've had it working near-flawlessly
[21:07] <cm13g09> hence my theory it's code-related....
[21:08] <DL1SGP> possible :)
[21:08] <cm13g09> of course, it could be the Arduino compiler being exciting :P
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[21:08] <cm13g09> and doing something wacky
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[21:09] <mfa298> you mean you dont have your code in a scm so you can see what has changed / revert to what worked
[21:09] <cm13g09> mfa298: I can
[21:09] <cm13g09> it's all in git
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[21:09] <cm13g09> but I don't see why what I changed breaks it :P
[21:11] <mfa298> id be tempted to revert, test it still works than see if you can work out what broke it
[21:11] <cm13g09> this is the problem
[21:12] <cm13g09> If I revert, I lose the functionality that makes what I'm trying to test work :P
[21:13] <mfa298> can't you save it in a branch or similar
[21:13] <cm13g09> well I suppose....
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[21:13] <mfa298> just thinking along the lines of, revert, prove the hardware and base code still works then look at all the bits that change
[21:14] <cm13g09> mm
[21:14] <cm13g09> I suppose
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[21:16] <DL1SGP> heh my local parts supplier is selling TI Watches stuff with the wireless transmitting gear as evaluation board for own RF application (not heartbeat monitor)
[21:16] <cm13g09> hmm
[21:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWi9GUzY1fY
[21:17] <DL1SGP> checked if they have that chip :( but they do not
[21:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> must have :-)
[21:18] <cm13g09> mfa298: right, going backwards ;)
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[21:21] <mfa298> as a thought, did your new code add new libraries ?
[21:22] <SP9UOB-Tom> night all
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[21:24] <cm13g09> mfa298: no - made changes to existing libs
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[21:25] <mfa298> just wondering if you had different libraries competing for a timer (or similar)
[21:25] <cm13g09> right
[21:25] <cm13g09> just reverted to the old version
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[21:31] <cm13g09> hmm, I think it's module-related...
[21:31] <fsphil> ping jcoxon
[21:32] <mfa298> still not working ?
[21:33] <cm13g09> mfa298: I think I've found my problem :P
[21:33] <cm13g09> Antennas too close to each other :P
[21:33] <cm13g09> the RX was being overloaded :P
[21:34] <DL1SGP> heh
[21:34] <mfa298> lol, makes a change to struggling with weak signals
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[21:34] <cm13g09> mfa298: it's not *all* of my problem though
[21:35] <jcoxon> hey fsphil
[21:35] <mfa298> still, it's always easier solving problems when you've got the simple issues out the way
[21:35] <cm13g09> mm
[21:36] <cm13g09> and it does make a difference to weak signals ;)
[21:37] <fsphil> ello jcoxon. playing with a DDS-60 atm .. you where able to get something out of it whern't you?
[21:37] <mfa298> and at least the known good versions help solve simple issues
[21:37] <jcoxon> fsphil, i used a si570 not a dds-60
[21:37] <cm13g09> I've just fast-forwarded the app, but not the library
[21:37] <fsphil> ah
[21:38] Nick change: heathkid|2 -> heathkid
[21:39] <fsphil> going to see if I can make it do wspr or domex
[21:39] <fsphil> it's putting out fairly random frequencies atm
[21:40] <cm13g09> mfa298: found my "problem"
[21:40] <jcoxon> http://m0xpd.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/multi-mode-beacon-on-rpi.html
[21:40] <cm13g09> my patches to the library have somehow managed to disable the "discover" command
[21:41] <mfa298> always good when the bug turns out to be fairly obvious
[21:41] <cm13g09> I don't know WHY they did though :P
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[21:42] <mfa298> although it's got to be a bad sign of current sunday night TV when various people coding / irc'ing / breaking sendmail
[21:42] <cm13g09> lol
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[21:44] <Willdude123> mfa298, did I tell you I ordered a USB-RS232 cable and an DB9 to DB25 null modem cable?
[21:44] <mfa298> yes, I think i made a few comments at the time
[21:45] <Willdude123> Ah yes, I recall now
[21:46] <Willdude123> I actually found an IRC network other than Freenode today
[21:47] <mfa298> there's quite a few of them - as well as individual irc servers
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[21:52] <Willdude123> I don't typically go on other networks. I sometimes go on esper for #minecraft and I sometimes go on awfulnet for #lgbteens
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[22:13] <Reb-SM3ULC> Willdude123: freenode is a "new" network, olden goldies like ircnet/efnet/* were very big in the days
[22:15] <Laurenceb__> LeoBodnar_: I think i found someone on youtube who could help you with picohab power
[22:16] <LeoBodnar_> what where who?
[22:16] <Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CdhdCbDch6A#t=527
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[22:18] <Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnwO3fVq4Wc&list=PLKUrCJ4J8pZEW4MS3RjbFTYwzlcukBS-y&index=19
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[22:20] <Laurenceb__> "my video titled digging up highly radioactive waste"
[22:20] <LeoBodnar_> she's mad
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[22:21] <LeoBodnar_> maybe not
[22:22] <Laurenceb__> theres plutonium on the plates
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[22:37] <LeoBodnar_> Too curieous hahaha funny
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[22:42] Action: DL1SGP heard Plutonium?
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[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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[23:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> ?
[23:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> ??google
[23:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> ??:
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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