highaltitude.log.20131020

[00:00] <arko> http://www.reddit.com/r/britishproblems/comments/1os0e5/i_am_currently_being_held_hostage_in_a_european/
[00:00] <arko> language
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[00:03] <jcoxon> got to admit thats a lovely stable altitude
[00:05] <fsphil> the slower ascent rate worked well
[00:06] <jcoxon> its in safe hands now, reaching the hab capital of Europe
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[00:07] <fsphil> not so long ago, this is where we lost track of them :)
[00:09] <jcoxon> indeed
[00:09] Action: jcoxon remembers Astra
[00:09] <jcoxon> when Brian found the signal and then found ballooning rather than the traditional other way round
[00:09] <Laurenceb_> how long will the battery hold out?
[00:10] <jcoxon> Laurenceb_, prob 24hrs
[00:11] <jcoxon> fsphil, http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/grove-serial-camera-kit-p-1608.html
[00:12] <Laurenceb_> i see
[00:14] <DL7AD> on which frequency is ATLAS transmitting?
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[00:14] <fsphil> good find jcoxon
[00:14] <jcoxon> DL7AD, it was 434.248 on launch
[00:14] <jcoxon> fsphil, not too bad a price
[00:14] <jcoxon> i know you are always on the look out
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[00:17] <fsphil> that's the cheapest so far
[00:19] <jcoxon> right sleep time
[00:19] <jcoxon> thanks for tracking everyone!
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[00:33] <la3eq> i am picking up B-10
[00:34] <la3eq> I think.....it sounds like DomEx16
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[00:35] <arko> waaaa?
[00:35] <la3eq> 435.500 and audio carrier 1600Hz
[00:35] <arko> it's iden as B-10??
[00:35] <la3eq> no green decode yet
[00:35] <arko> what does the packet look like?
[00:35] <qyx_> b-10?
[00:36] <arko> B-10 was launched on August 24th.....
[00:36] <la3eq> sri.....B-20 i mean....sleepy :(
[00:36] <arko> oh wow
[00:36] <arko> ok
[00:36] <arko> you had me at the edge of my seat
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[00:37] <arko> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-10/
[00:37] <la3eq> it's saying beep...beep now
[00:37] <qyx_> i think b10 was recovered
[00:37] <arko> yeah
[00:37] <la3eq> now data
[00:37] <la3eq> GREEN
[00:38] <arko> where are you?
[00:38] <la3eq> $$B-20,234,003725,131020,55.7666,4.2559,6677,4,-25,3.8,0*c1bc
[00:38] <arko> Norway
[00:38] <arko> i see
[00:38] <arko> nice!
[00:38] <arko> glad to know it made it
[00:38] <arko> altitude looks good too
[00:42] <Maxell> yay for Poland \o/
[00:42] <la3eq> yes it does
[00:42] <Maxell> There are soooo many
[00:43] <la3eq> going to bed now....leaving radio on
[00:43] <Maxell> SP3OSJ & Atlas + Poland = tracking fun :D
[00:43] <la3eq> good nights folks
[00:43] <Maxell> nn la3eq
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[01:09] <DL7AD> btw: good morning and good night
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[03:34] <ljj> good morning!!!!!
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[04:06] <heathkid> good morning
[04:06] <heathkid> uh... night here thogh
[04:12] <heathkid> I still need US folks here to help me
[04:12] <heathkid> #usahab
[04:14] <pWNAGE> america here
[04:15] <pWNAGE> coming to save the day
[04:17] <Joel_re> hey
[04:17] <Joel_re> does habitat expect all vars to be prefixed
[04:17] <wb8elk> I can help....here in Alabamy
[04:18] <Joel_re> e.g lat_xxx, long_xxx, internal_temp_xxx
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[05:00] <DJ3AK_det> good morning
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[06:06] <la3eq> GM all
[06:07] <wd8mnv> morning
[06:07] <KD8ATF-TAB> Morning
[06:08] <la3eq> last sight of B-20 was two hours ago
[06:08] <la3eq> it drifted behind a tall hill due south of me...
[06:12] <DJ3AK_det> gm, by now B-20 is certainly enjoying the morning sun ;-)
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[06:13] <la3eq> It was at the edge of my radio horisont and became slowly weaker as it drited east behind the hill...hope is repairs soon
[06:14] <la3eq> reapairs
[06:14] <dg9bfc> good morning and happy balooning :-)
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[06:16] <DJ3AK_det> ATLAS has already reappeared after it had stopped tx-ing for abt. 3 hours
[06:17] <dg9bfc> question: how long will the transmitter will stay operational at that height and temperature??
[06:20] <la3eq> i made a longtime spectran recordoing....nd is was looking good aand slowly fading out and drifting up in frequency early this morning....audio looks good but to weak for decoding here...
[06:21] <la3eq> some dans should be able to receive it now.
[06:21] <la3eq> Danes
[06:21] <DJ3AK_det> la3eq what is the dial freq.?
[06:22] <la3eq> 434.500 showing 1550Hz on spectran
[06:22] <la3eq> us
[06:22] <la3eq> USB ofcouse
[06:22] <DJ3AK_det> thank you
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[06:33] <la3eq> No Danes awake and monitoring this morning???
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[06:41] <jcoxon> morning all
[06:41] <jcoxon> from the looks of atlas' flight profile i'm not sure we'll survive much further into today
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[06:42] <jcoxon> climbing quite quickly
[06:42] <Upu> you have another few km
[06:42] <Upu> what does the payload weigh ?
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[06:42] <jcoxon> total is 225g
[06:43] <jcoxon> for everything
[06:43] <Upu> should be fine up to 41km
[06:43] <jcoxon> so must of got too cold last nigh
[06:43] <jcoxon> t
[06:45] <jcoxon> i'm suprised no one has noticed that i've by a mistake but count as a byte
[06:46] <Upu> it was noticed :)
[06:47] <Upu> rolling over at 256 was a give away
[06:47] <jcoxon> wonder how that happened
[06:48] <jcoxon> oh well
[06:48] <jcoxon> is my flight doc out of time?
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[06:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> morning ALl
[06:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> Atlas is over very unfriendly territory
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[06:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> SQ5NWI: hello :-)
[06:52] <dg9bfc> hope that they will not "shoot it down" hi hi
[06:52] <SQ5NWI> Hi Tom :-)
[06:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> dg9bfc: right
[06:53] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, unfortunately once we are passed poland every one is a little unfriendly
[06:53] <SQ5NWI> I missed TLAS flight to much :-(
[06:53] <dg9bfc> upu: how long will the battery stay alive?
[06:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: with apogee in Korea
[06:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> SQ5NWI: dont worry i have my PICO ready to launch :-)
[06:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> i have undecodable traces now
[06:56] <SQ5NWI> SP9UOB-Tom: I have to go, but TRX with CAT controlling it by dl-fldigi stays turned on. I'll see you again in 1-2 hours - that's for ATLAS
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[06:56] <SQ5NWI> When you will launch your pico today?
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[06:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> SQ5NWI: after breakfast. I have to just prepare flight doc and go to the launch site
[06:57] <jcoxon> dg9bfc, hopefully the rest of the day, no more than that
[06:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> i have still helium in cylinder, the rent is going to be more expensive than gas itself ;-)
[06:57] <SQ5NWI> Fine. :-) I'll be back at 9 a,m. UTC, so will track it.
[06:58] <SQ5NWI> See you.
[06:58] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, know anybody who can keep track past belarus?
[06:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: im trying to contact with sq4mui
[06:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: but i dont know anyone in belarus, this is really strange country
[07:00] <dg9bfc> maybe some more ua stations come online?!?
[07:00] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, yes - i did not enjoy my time there
[07:00] <dg9bfc> sorry ... ra stations
[07:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: i'll cty to call some russian stations on HF, and ash them to raack
[07:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: i'll cty to call some russian stations on HF, and ask them to track
[07:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> sorry for typos
[07:01] <dg9bfc> who cares about typos?
[07:02] <SP9UOB-Tom> they might by funny, especially in foregin language
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[07:04] Action: SP9UOB-Tom should be more diligent in school during russian language lessons... Really..
[07:06] <mikestir> wow. atlas isn't hanging around!
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[07:07] <x-f> good morning
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[07:08] <jcoxon> morning x-f
[07:08] <x-f> almost overslept your baloon
[07:09] <jcoxon> i'd like it to avoid minsk
[07:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: how's Your russian?
[07:10] <x-f> it was silent on 2am and 4am UTC, i checked
[07:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: You can cause incident ;-)
[07:10] <x-f> SP9UOB-Tom, i understand it and can read but not write or talk
[07:12] <x-f> hah, "user123" was mattbrejza's decoder, looks like it found the signal first and automatically, nice feature
[07:12] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, that doesn't make me happy
[07:13] <jcoxon> :-)
[07:15] <jcoxon> belarus shot down a hot air balloon back in 1995
[07:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: really? Dou You have any links?
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[07:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: it was manned or unmanned balloon ?
[07:17] <jcoxon> unmanned
[07:17] <jcoxon> i mean manned
[07:17] <jcoxon> 2 americans were killed
[07:17] <Upu> dg9bfc - not sure ask jcoxon
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[07:19] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: hwoee 1600 is small and not dense enough to be detected by radar... i hope
[07:20] <jcoxon> especially at 36km
[07:20] <Upu> I'm sure their radar can differentiate between a balloon and something else
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[07:20] <Upu> and yes
[07:20] <Upu> the altitude is a give away
[07:21] <Upu> not much else up there so slow and so high
[07:21] <jcoxon> anyway polish weather balloons must pass over regularly
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[07:22] <Steve_G0TDJ> Morning!
[07:23] <Andrew_MGGTG-1> Morning, well done jcoxon: looks like ATLAS had a good nights travel
[07:23] <Andrew_MGGTG-1> morning Steve
[07:23] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah, Atlas - Great flight jcoxon
[07:23] <Steve_G0TDJ> Hi Andy
[07:23] <Upu> hopefully wsmeteor will get recovered today as well
[07:24] <Andrew_MGGTG-1> Upu: stuck up a tree?
[07:24] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: please approve: 5edf69cf4c5b2df96584d07cb3fe7ac8
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[07:24] <jcoxon> 300km to the boarder
[07:24] <Upu> spproved SP9UOB-Tom
[07:24] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: im going to check i2c again :-)
[07:24] <SP9UOB-Tom> Thanks Upu
[07:24] <Upu> Andrew_MGGTG-1 it was in a big tree and a farmer came along with a tractor and shook the tree
[07:25] <Upu> the payload came out but was catapulted into the tree next to it
[07:25] <Upu> doh
[07:25] <daveake> ATLAS getting surprisngly high compared to yesterday!
[07:25] <Upu> anyway it was getting dark so they decided to go back and try tomorrow
[07:25] <Andrew_MGGTG-1> hope they videoed' it
[07:25] <Upu> daveake it wasn't at its max height before sunset
[07:25] <Upu> so just floated at normal night alt
[07:25] <daveake> Ah ok that explains that then
[07:26] <Upu> interesting to see how it affects today
[07:26] <daveake> yup
[07:26] <Upu> 225g under a 1600g Hwoyee
[07:26] <Upu> thats not going to burst before 42km really
[07:27] <daveake> How much did our 2 weigh?
[07:27] <jarod> Any balloons up today?
[07:27] <Upu> way over that
[07:27] <Upu> mine was 550g
[07:27] <daveake> thought so
[07:27] <Upu> floated at 39km on day one
[07:27] <Andrew_MGGTG-1> Steve_GOTDJ hows the forecast?
[07:27] <Upu> jarod yep one over Belarus
[07:27] <Upu> and one MIA probably over Denmark/Norway
[07:28] <Steve_G0TDJ> Andrew_MGGTG-1: Much the same as yesterday... Have you changed your callsign :-)
[07:28] Nick change: Andrew_MGGTG-1 -> Andrew_M6GTG-1
[07:28] <Steve_G0TDJ> :D
[07:28] <Andrew_M6GTG-1> well spotted
[07:29] <Steve_G0TDJ> Deil in detials etc.
[07:29] <Steve_G0TDJ> Doh - Devil in details... I'd like to blame my keyboard.
[07:29] <Andrew_M6GTG-1> me too..
[07:30] <Andrew_M6GTG-1> what time is lift off planned Steve/
[07:30] <Steve_G0TDJ> jarod: I'm hoping to launch a Pico later VAYU
[07:30] <Steve_G0TDJ> 12:30 onwards
[07:30] <daveake> I'm hoping to be there about 13:00
[07:30] <daveake> So I'm relying on ISH :)
[07:31] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL... I doububt if I'll be ready by then Dave
[07:31] <Andrew_M6GTG-1> ok, just trying to juggle domestic commitments, already put a kybosh on going out..
[07:31] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'm expecting to be asked loads of questions etc.
[07:31] <daveake> Feel free to launch on time though :p
[07:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: chemical power only? Or also solar?
[07:32] <Steve_G0TDJ> daveake: There's no fixed time so really, doesn't matter
[07:32] <daveake> I'll text thru my eta once we're on our way
[07:32] <SP9UOB-Tom> i hope that sq4mui
[07:32] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, just batteries
[07:32] <Steve_G0TDJ> OK Cool
[07:32] <SP9UOB-Tom> will wake up soon
[07:33] <jcoxon> thats the nice thing about non-pico flights
[07:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: and how long do You expect to work?
[07:33] <jcoxon> get a bit of mass so can do more
[07:33] <Andrew_M6GTG-1> catch you all later off to take doggies out
[07:33] <jcoxon> just today i suspect
[07:33] <Steve_G0TDJ> Seeya Andy!
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[07:34] <SP9UOB-Tom> ...well this is the moment, where everybody thinking "why i havent put another battery" ;-)
[07:35] <jcoxon> hehe
[07:35] <jcoxon> i think we'll lose track first
[07:35] <jcoxon> roughtly 150km/hr currently
[07:35] <jcoxon> so 2 hours to the border
[07:36] <RocketBoy> float or burst - it keeps trying to float
[07:36] <Steve_G0TDJ> LOL Banging down with rain here.....
[07:37] <RocketBoy> ooo a -ve
[07:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: Belarus' airforces are waiting to launch missle ;-)
[07:37] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, oi
[07:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> Minsk was just attacked....
[07:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> ...by balloon ;-)
[07:39] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, i think its still climbing overall
[07:39] <jcoxon> not yet ready to settle down
[07:39] <x-f> i have trouble decoding it for the most time
[07:40] <Upu> you are fine for another 3km
[07:40] <daveake> My 1600 floater was a lot heavier and floated at 40km
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[07:41] <fsphil> ah still going
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[07:44] <Upu> 105mph now
[07:44] <Upu> and back in a float..(too early to call it ?)
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[07:45] <Upu> yeah too early :)
[07:45] <Upu> time to call any Russian HAM you know
[07:45] <Upu> s
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[07:46] <fsphil> that's the biggest night/day jump in altitude I've seen
[07:48] <Steve_G0TDJ> Right, my logistics manager is here (Driver :-) See you all later!
[07:48] <daveake> bb!
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[07:48] <Steve_G0TDJ_AFK> ..
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[07:50] <RocketBoy> i can almost hear the latex creaking
[07:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: i have spotted balloon, but on http://www.on4kst.org/chat/index.php there is only 2 russian hams
[07:51] <Upu> well they may spread the word
[07:51] <DL1SGP1> hi all, good morning!
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[07:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> i have no traces now at all
[07:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> have a good trip ATLAS :-)
[07:53] <DL1SGP> yeah, safe float dear ATLAS :)
[07:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> UR3PAS
[07:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> UR3PAS isnt in QRZ.com - odd
[07:54] <DL1SGP> let's hope that ra4ctr will pick up ATLAS in a bit
[07:55] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, just reading about hte Ukrainian high altitude balloon
[07:55] <Upu> don't forget to have a tune around 434.500 and see if you can pick up B-20
[07:55] <jcoxon> http://vhfdx.at.ua/pbl/HAB.pdf
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[07:57] <ilyarctr> what is the real frequency of the Atlas ?
[07:57] <Upu> was 434.246
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[07:58] <Upu> possibly lower
[07:58] <ilyarctr> ok tnx
[07:59] <x-f> SP9UOB-Tom, what was your dial?
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[08:03] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: about 437.600, i give You exact frequency after the launh
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[08:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> ah... Atlat?
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[08:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> ah... Atlas? I lost it about 40 minutes ago
[08:05] <tjanos> Good mornig!
[08:05] <x-f> good morning, tjanos
[08:05] <tjanos> I will try to reach UY2RA near Kiev. He has good antenna and radio on short wave, maybe he will try to follow Atlas
[08:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> tjanos: im sending a PICO to You ;-)
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[08:06] <tjanos> Tom, oh, what is it?
[08:06] <tjanos> When it will start?
[08:06] <SP9UOB-Tom> in 20 minutes
[08:07] <tjanos> We was in big attention yesterday, waitin for the visiting of the SP3OSJ
[08:07] <tjanos> but it was stop to visit us
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[08:10] <tjanos> Congratulation to Arthur, it was a nice memory to the polish startosphere flight 75 year ago
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[08:10] <SP9UOB-Tom> tjanos: i have estimated battery run for about 50 hours
[08:10] <ilyarctr> Atlas announced on vhfdx.ru
[08:11] <jcoxon> thanks ilyarctr
[08:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> tjanos: there WAS no flight 75 years ago, there was one big failure http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwiazda_Polski
[08:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> At around 4:00 a.m. the gigantic balloon was filled with hydrogen. Without warning and from some undetermined cause, the stiff fabric went up in flames. According to witnesses, a spark appeared on the top of the bag and quickly enveloped the balloon. It burned very fast. Fortunately, the gondola was spared and no one was injured.,[4] which gave Polish scientists hope for a next attempt.
[08:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> As the gondola was saved, Polish experts decided to recreate the bag and organize another takeoff. In August 1939 the Americans provided the Poles with helium [5] and the flight was planned for September 1939, near the town of S³awsko, in the Gorgany [6] However, the German and Soviet attack on Poland made this impossible.
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[08:14] <number10> nothing still on HF jcoxon?
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[08:14] <jcoxon> not a peep
[08:14] <number10> ah shame
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[08:22] <jcoxon> i think i'll lay the possibility of HF to rest now
[08:22] <jcoxon> you need more power then we can do
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[08:26] <fsphil> was worth a go
[08:27] <jcoxon> just hit 109mph
[08:29] <number10> I wonder if we will get some Russian trackers
[08:30] <jcoxon> a station just popped up in Moscow
[08:31] <number10> yes just saw that - quickly translate the wili guide to tracking
[08:31] <number10> wiki
[08:32] <number10> ah - I see we already have the russian guide
[08:35] <jcoxon> burst
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[08:35] <wd8mnv> looks like something else popped too
[08:37] <GMT> should just about make Russia ... is there a label on the payload to say where it came from?
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[08:38] <jcoxon> GMT, maybe...
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[08:41] <jcoxon> looks like people are struggling to decode it
[08:41] <jcoxon> spin?
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[08:41] <Herman-PB0AHX> GM all
[08:41] <DL1SGP> goedemorgen Herman
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[08:43] <malgar> I see now ATLAS on the tracker.. what kind of balloon it is? Is there a webpage about it? who is the launcher?
[08:44] <jcoxon> malgar, i launched it, it was a latex 1600gram balloon
[08:44] <jcoxon> they'll be a page later about it
[08:45] <jcoxon> haven't finished it yet
[08:45] <DL1SGP> it was a nice float jcoxon, congrats :)
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[08:46] <jcoxon> thanks
[08:46] <jcoxon> it would be nice to get one more point on descent
[08:47] <malgar> has it burst?
[08:48] <jcoxon> yes
[08:48] <fsphil> I'm surprised
[08:48] <malgar> and did it float beacuse it was underfilled?
[08:48] <malgar> payload? gps+transmitter?
[08:48] <jcoxon> malgar, sort of
[08:49] <jcoxon> it was a ublox GPS, arduino and NTX2B radio
[08:51] <malgar> other question: how do you ask for receiving stations in russia for example? What do you suggest to do when we will launch in Italy to alert HAMs and invite them to track us?
[08:52] <jcoxon> malgar, there are a few online ham forums you can post on
[08:52] <jcoxon> or speak to local amateur radio club
[08:52] <jcoxon> s
[08:53] <DL1SGP> also posting here about it is a good idea, there are some italian forums on HAB activities too, mostly relating to radiosoundings but always interested in other launches
[08:53] <jcoxon> malgar, it seems that once you get a few people interested it grows quite quickly
[08:53] <malgar> which ones? do you think that they will manage dl-fldigi easly?
[08:54] <DL1SGP> for instance if you give me notice for an italian launch early enough I can spread the news out to some italian contacts of mine :)
[08:54] <jcoxon> malgar, we have a guide
[08:54] <SpeedEvil> it's not that hard to use :-)
[08:54] <jcoxon> you can translate it to italian for us
[08:54] <malgar> jcoxon: I know the guide
[08:54] <malgar> jcoxon: yes I could
[08:54] <DL1SGP> with the auto configure thingie depending on the accuracy of your flightdoc using dl-fldigi is a question of a few clicks anyhow
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[08:55] <malgar> DL1SGP: we will launch from northern Italy in May 2014
[08:55] <jcoxon> malgar, thats very exciting
[08:55] <DL1SGP> malgar: let me know in April :)
[08:55] <malgar> perfect
[08:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok, pico is UP :-)
[08:56] <DL1SGP> thank you Tom :)
[08:57] <malgar> jcoxon: we will develop a basic payload using arduino transmitting coordinates and temperture. If everything seems working fine and we will have enough time we will develop a payload using raspberry and ssdv
[08:57] <SP9UOB-Tom> its going to catch ATLAS ;-)
[08:58] <jcoxon> SP9UOB-Tom, it needs to hurry up!
[08:58] <Herman-PB0AHX> atlas going down now
[08:58] <malgar> are there jet streams above UK?
[08:58] <jcoxon> malgar, yes, most of the time
[08:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> jcoxon: it doesnt have afterburners onboard :-(
[08:59] <jcoxon> malgar, good idea, always start simple, will this be a latex balloon launch?
[08:59] <malgar> DL1SGP: where are located your italian contacts?
[08:59] <eroomde_> woo burst
[08:59] <malgar> jcoxon: yes latex. Target: 30 km
[09:00] <G4BWR_Mark> jcoxon: Re HF is it not possible to use a mode more suitable to QRP? or are the Tx modes limited?
[09:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> ohh... atlas was burst
[09:01] <DL1SGP> malgar: my main contact is in Latina, but he has a nationwide network
[09:01] <jcoxon> G4BWR_Mark, i think the problem is that we are limited legally to such low power that its not pratical
[09:01] <jcoxon> and ends up being LOS which UHF suits better
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[09:03] <jcoxon> the other thing is many of the traditional QRP setups such as WSPR are oppurtunistic
[09:03] <jcoxon> where you leave them running for a while and see who rx's
[09:03] <jcoxon> while a balloon we'd like regular data
[09:05] <jcoxon> okay - bye Atlas - good flight
[09:05] Action: SP9UOB-Tom have 21 MHz payload with WSPR/DOMINO/Aprs 300 baud ready but dont want to loose pracious DDS-60 Board :-(
[09:05] <jcoxon> bbl
[09:05] <G4BWR_Mark> jcoxon: Yep I see the problem, what about something like JT65 which is time synchronised, after all GPS is used on flights?
[09:05] <jcoxon> G4BWR_Mark, certainly would be possible but the band choice would be an issue
[09:06] <jcoxon> no airborne HAM in UK and the ISM HF bands are crowded
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[09:06] <Piet0r> Hi
[09:06] <G4BWR_Mark> Yes noticed that when trying to decode yesterday.
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[09:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> Hi Rysiek
[09:07] <SQ9MDD> Hi
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[09:12] <SP9UOB-Tom> 300 m to switch into airborne mode, we'll see whats happen :-)
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[09:14] <iain_G4SGX> Is atlas falling?
[09:15] <x-f> it's probably already down by now
[09:15] <SP9UOB-Tom> iain_G4SGX: like a stone
[09:15] <x-f> B-20 should by right above OZ9AEH about now - http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/14196_trj001.gif
[09:16] <iain_G4SGX> wow, not even one track on the way down. odd
[09:17] <x-f> i lost the signal very quickly, it was weak for me even before the burst
[09:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Not many stations in range and its probably spinning and tumbing
[09:18] <SP9UOB-Tom> well, i forgot that i've changed transition to 3500m ;-)
[09:18] <SP9UOB-Tom> if (pos.fix_type>=3 && pos.altitude>3500 && !(gps_flags&F_AIRBORNE)) {
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[09:20] <chrisg7ogx> go go ATLAS!
[09:22] <x-f> snus really needs a timer "position updated xx:xx ago" :)
[09:22] <x-f> chrisg7ogx, it's not going anywhere anymore
[09:23] <fsphil> other than down
[09:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Just highlight the time/date in green when its within the last 30 minutes maybe and red when its an older time record
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[09:35] <SP9UOB-Tom> in airborne mode and PSM on and... its working :-)
[09:36] <fsphil> nice!
[09:37] <x-f> SP9UOB-Tom, does it have solar panels this time?
[09:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: so i have uart left for camera :-)
[09:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: no, but estimated battery run is over 50 hours
[09:38] <x-f> 50 sounds good
[09:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> last was 45 hours, with less aggressive power saving
[09:38] <SP9UOB-Tom> Microchip XLP is amazing :-)
[09:40] <fsphil> SP9UOB-Tom: nice :) jcoxon posted a link to a lowish priced uart camera last night
[09:40] <eroomde_> there are some pretty impressive PICs for low power
[09:40] <eroomde_> always been impressed
[09:40] <fsphil> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/grove-serial-camera-kit-p-1608.html
[09:41] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: interesting
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[09:41] <fsphil> not sure how well it'll work
[09:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> i have the sparkfun one
[09:43] <fsphil> the linksprite?
[09:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> yes... i think
[09:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> wait
[09:44] <SP9UOB-Tom> yup
[09:44] <SP9UOB-Tom> linksprite
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[09:44] <SP9UOB-Tom> eroomde_: im using PIC18LF26K22
[09:45] <eroomde_> cheap too
[09:45] <Upu> WSMETEOR was recovered this morning by the farmer before they arrived : http://i.imgur.com/cNH3K0o.jpg
[09:45] <fsphil> I've got a CMOS sensor to play with - though it's not going to be practical to use on an avr
[09:45] <fsphil> they just don't have enough memory to store the uncompressed image
[09:45] <eroomde_> excellent news on wsmeteor
[09:46] <fsphil> happy ending!
[09:46] <fsphil> nice to see trees giving up payloads
[09:46] <GMT> excellent news ... wow, that's a big payload box
[09:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: consider using fram/eeprom
[09:46] <Upu> conveying their thanks for tracking
[09:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> for storage buffer
[09:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: http://www.cypress.com/?docID=44848
[09:47] <fsphil> yea I've been wondering if it could be setup that the cameras data goes into a memory chip directly
[09:47] <eroomde_> frame is really interesting
[09:47] <eroomde_> fram*
[09:47] <fsphil> then the avr could read it slowly
[09:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> yes
[09:48] <Upu> uh Atlas popped dang
[09:48] <Upu> probably best
[09:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> just dump the data to fram and read it when they are needed
[09:48] <fsphil> the sensor has a pixel clock, if that could somehow control the ram chip
[09:48] <fsphil> have it store and advance on a rising edge
[09:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> fsphil: small fpga could help
[09:49] <fsphil> could be a good excuse to play with fpga's yea :)
[09:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> LOL
[09:49] <fsphil> though I suspect there's a more elegant solution
[09:49] <SQ5NWI> SQ9MDD: Rysiu, another pico launch today? ;-)
[09:50] <SQ9MDD> yeah...
[09:50] <SQ5NWI> SP9UOB_Tom: Still to weak signal for me. :-( Need directional antenna!
[09:50] <SQ9MDD> i think 13:00 UTC or later
[09:51] <SQ5NWI> SQ9MDD: Really? Where? I'd like to be there! :-)
[09:51] <SQ9MDD> Lomianki
[09:52] <SQ5NWI> SQ9MDD: Again... Far, but not to far. I think this is time to go back to Komorow launch site. ;-)
[09:52] <SQ5NWI> too far
[09:52] <SQ9MDD> check the wind...
[09:52] <SQ9MDD> Komorow is to risky
[09:53] <SQ5NWI> I saw the prediction. I know... :-(. I'll go to Lomianki. Just let me know in advance.
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[09:54] <SQ5NWI> SP9UOB_Tom: Finally I've got it!
[09:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> WOW! we have antenna in Moscow !
[09:55] <SP9UOB-Tom> SQ5NWI: :-)
[09:55] <SQ9MDD> Kris i call you later...
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[09:57] <SQ5NWI> SQ9MDD: OK
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[09:58] <SQ5NWI> SP9UOB_Tom: Now is very strong. Within just a minute or two signal changed from too-weak to really strong. Interesting.
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[09:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> SQ5NWI: maybe some obstacles on the signal way. Do You like my CW :-) ?
[10:00] <SP5NON-Martin> SQ5NWI: what is QRG now?
[10:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> 437.600219
[10:00] <SP5NON-Martin> tnx
[10:01] <SQ5NWI> 437.602,19 :-)
[10:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> right
[10:02] <SQ5NWI> SP9UOB_Tom: Possibly yes. I have QSB. I like it, but have to record it to decode. Not so skilled in CW yet ;-)
[10:02] <SQ5NWI> But will decode with ear not PC.
[10:03] <SP9UOB-Tom> SQ5NWI: :-)
[10:03] <jcoxon> can i take WSMETEOR and SP3OSJ off the map?
[10:03] <jcoxon> any objections
[10:03] <malgar> What about launching from a surface parking inside a small village? Do you always launch from fields?
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[10:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> it just tx'ed by morse DE SP9UOB SP9UOB JO90VM JO90VM ALT 5504 M
[10:04] <jcoxon> malgar, the only thing is that there is some space
[10:04] <DL1SGP> less curious people watching, less risk of getting stuck in terrestial TV ants :)
[10:05] <jcoxon> yeah avoid trees and powerlines
[10:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> ok, im going to the walk now AFK
[10:05] <malgar> jcoxon: and a football pitch?
[10:05] <DL1SGP> our last balloon project was launched from the sports field of a local school in mid of town malgar
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[10:06] <jcoxon> malgar, yeah thats good
[10:06] <malgar> DL1SGP: wow, do you have pics?
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[10:06] <DL1SGP> the issue was that town administration failed to communicate sports clubs that the terrain was occupied, so our plans collided with a soccer competition
[10:06] <malgar> LOL
[10:06] <DL1SGP> the matches had to be interupted for second launch
[10:07] <malgar> soccer? isn't an american word? :P
[10:08] <DL1SGP> Germany is not much American at all :D
[10:08] <DL1SGP> see here malgar http://darc-celle.de/bildergalerie1/ballonprojekt-2012.html
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[10:11] <DL1SGP> video is available too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrnCYxR9Znk
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[10:12] <malgar> oh nice
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[10:14] <malgar> DL1SGP: very very nice :)
[10:15] <malgar> how much time did you spend to build it?
[10:16] <DL1SGP> it was a team project, the building time cannot really be stated as it included stuff that was developed over past years
[10:17] <DL1SGP> most time electronics team spent on bugfixing trying to find wonky connections :D
[10:17] <eroomde_> it's always about cables and connectors
[10:17] <DL1SGP> the pilot launch was lost due to such an issue :)
[10:18] <DL1SGP> but on the 2 starts all went ok. though second one was water landing and we were scared it would go into Elbe river
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[10:19] <DL1SGP> first ballon was used to lift a science project of a local school student for "Jugend forscht" an annual German science competition for school students.
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[10:19] <DL1SGP> second launch carried a mini-lab of University of Heidelberg
[10:21] <x-f> what did you use for telemetry?
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[10:22] <DL1SGP> x-f: APRS, first launch additionally had a voice beacon
[10:23] <DL1SGP> so people that could not decode aprs could just listen in on a nice female voice reading the values :)
[10:23] <x-f> haha, nice :)
[10:24] <DL1SGP> chase teams themselves used passive APRS receiving gear, most smartphone based to keep traffic low as to avoid going over a faint package if payload had a rough landing.
[10:25] <DL1SGP> coordination was through direct simplex on ground, for larger distance via repeaters
[10:25] <LeoBodnar> morning!
[10:25] <DL1SGP> good morning Mr Leo "TheFloat" Bodnar
[10:26] <DL1SGP> best greetings from DL2OAU :P who I met on a festival yesterday night
[10:27] <LeoBodnar> :D
[10:28] <LeoBodnar> la3eq: are you still here?
[10:29] <malgar> DL1SGP: so you didn't use habitat framework?
[10:30] <malgar> I mean spacenear.us/tracker and so on
[10:30] <DL1SGP> negative malgar, but I hope getting the 2014 project on habitat
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[10:31] <malgar> DL1SGP: in the video did you use low framerates when the balloon was spinning too much? to avoid headache?
[10:32] <DL1SGP> yes ... kind of, also to give the pretty frames and trash the ones that are ugly
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[11:02] <eroomde_> it's practically a monsoon here
[11:03] <DL1SGP> eeek
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[11:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> eroomde, Doesn't look good for later on either! http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
[11:25] <DL1SGP> 10m band open
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[11:57] <G4AIU-Eugene> GA all
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[11:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> Yayami o'Mate LOL :-)
[11:59] <Steve_M0SXH> Hi Guys - Steve G0TDJ here at Youlbury
[11:59] <Steve_M0SXH> Just waiting for a few bodies to arrive before prep for launch
[11:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> phonetic = Jajami o mate which could be translated to "hit eggs (testicals) on the carpet" ;-)
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[11:59] <x-f> good luck with the launch, Steve!
[11:59] <Steve_M0SXH> Cheers Kristaps
[11:59] <chrisstubbsLTP> Good luck steve
[12:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> Steve_M0SXH: are You going to float ?
[12:00] <chrisstubbsLTP> watch out for trees round there with the slow ascent
[12:00] <Andrew_M6GTG-2> all the best, good luck Steve
[12:00] <Steve_M0SXH> Thanks guys
[12:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> Steve_M0SXH: Poland has receivers warmed :-)
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[12:01] <Steve_M0SXH> I hope you manage to rx over there Tom!
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[12:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> Hope you get it off before the worst of the rain hits you location!
[12:02] <Steve_M0SXH> Yeah, I'm about to start preparing Geoff-G8DHE
[12:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> looks very intense on the radar
[12:02] <Steve_M0SXH> Thanks for the heads up
[12:03] <Steve_M0SXH> Going to prep now#
[12:03] <Steve_M0SXH> bbl
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[12:06] <GMT> I hope you manage to launch before heavy rain arrives
[12:06] <GMT> steve, it's a pico isn't it? going for a float, or up-n-down?
[12:07] <chrisstubbsLTP> GMT I think he is planning a float
[12:07] <chrisstubbsLTP> 35g tracker on single foil
[12:07] <LeoBodnar> There is vertical stack of rain coming your way Steve, about 2-3 hours from now
[12:08] <LeoBodnar> No pressure then
[12:08] <GMT> okay, thanks. just checked on CUSF for predictions, but if a float its a bit academic
[12:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> There is some stuff ontop of him right now!
[12:10] <LeoBodnar> Sometimes you can pierce low level rain clouds by the time water accumulates but there is 12km+ stack coming
[12:10] <LeoBodnar> And then - clear blue sky :D
[12:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: those charts are erally helpfull: http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/dcfafd51a458b637a94d6e71d0d83faa#g/altitude,pressure_altitude
[12:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> really :-)
[12:11] <x-f> you're welcome :)
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[12:11] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: thank You :-)
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[12:12] <LeoBodnar> It moves faster than I though
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[12:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Which prediction site are you looking at LeoBodnar
[12:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> LeoBodnar: someday we have to organize a HAB race ;-)
[12:13] <LeoBodnar> satellite IR images
[12:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> LeoBodnar: ahh You are talking about rain :-)
[12:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> In the UK we only talk about the weather ;-)
[12:14] <SP9UOB-Tom> Geoff-G8DHE: ;-)
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[12:31] <malgar> would you define habhub as a "framework"?
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[12:34] <Vostok> did atlas burst?
[12:35] <Upu> we believe so
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[12:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> Vostok: where ary You from ?
[12:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> Vostok: where are You from ?
[12:37] <Vostok> Espoo, Finland
[12:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> Vostok: OK, im looking for Ukrainian stations
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[12:49] <G4FFC> Very quiet, is anything happening?
[12:49] <chrisstubbs> Steve should be with daveake by now preparing to launch his pico
[12:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> Were waiting for the rain!
[12:50] <chrisstubbs> within the next half hour I expect
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[12:52] <daveake> Yeah I'm with Steve now
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[12:52] <daveake> Balloon filled
[12:53] <daveake> Just taping up the payload
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[12:55] <fsphil> streaming it daveake?
[12:56] Action: DL1SGP wishes Steve all the best for the VAYU flight and is glad that daveake made it over to assist!
[12:56] <daveake> could do
[12:56] <malgar> where x-f takes the raw data to make graphs?
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[12:56] <chrisstubbs> malgar, I think he pulls it straight from the habitat couchDB
[12:56] <malgar> habhub obvioulsy.. but I don't find where
[12:56] <malgar> ah ok
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[12:58] <daveake> batc live on the stream called "Flight"
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[13:00] <DL1SGP> thanks daveake, you rock :)
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[13:02] <LeoBodnar> good luck Steve and Dave!
[13:03] <DL1SGP> that balloon has a nice fill, so I guess it won't float (as expected)
[13:03] <eroomde> Geoff-G8DHE, how is the weather there?
[13:03] <eroomde> weather radar looks quite spectacular
[13:03] <GMT> it's just started to rain in w London
[13:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> looking grim to the SW, tornado hit Selsy earlier
[13:03] <eroomde> i'm in oxford
[13:03] <DL1SGP> heh they are wearing wellies and raincoats so I guess the weather is in british standards
[13:04] <eroomde> we've had one wave, but the radar showed a sort of independence-day style mass coming in off the sea towards us
[13:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24601190 Hayling island rather than Selsy this time
[13:05] <chrisstubbs> http://chris-stubbs.co.uk/hab/davestream.html
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[13:05] <GMT> the Scouts 'dib, dib, dib' has been renamed to 'hab, hab, hab'
[13:06] <DL1SGP> heh GMT
[13:06] <chrisstubbs> Looks like 3G is getting choppy out there
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[13:07] <DL1SGP> yeah guess some goat blocking the RF
[13:07] <GMT> that BBC report about the tornado in Hayling Island ... says 'caravan flipped over' ... are they sure it was not Top Gear?
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[13:08] <junderwood> In the air.
[13:08] <junderwood> Dial is 434.297
[13:08] <junderwood> Oops. No GPS :(
[13:09] <DutchMillbt> Always fun a live stream
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[13:10] <eroomde> looks like it's minutes away from a deluge
[13:10] <fsphil> I seem to have lost the controls on the batc stream
[13:10] <junderwood> Signal just-about disappeared. Ithink it must have landed already
[13:10] <eroomde> http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
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[13:11] <junderwood> That's delayed by 15 minutes. Maybe it got deluged.
[13:11] <junderwood> The signal is still there but very faint.
[13:12] <fsphil> the eye of the storms is overhead here
[13:12] Nick change: Willdude -> Willdude123
[13:12] <junderwood> $$ VA2U-Scouts JOTA oul5PaNxO2 ^J d@^Hcu&bearack`b
[13:12] <junderwood> $$$$VAYU-1,31,,,0-0,0,5,0,0,9&,26j "7D
[13:12] <junderwood> $$$$VZg0,0,0S255,0,0,2.95,26*3D23
[13:12] <junderwood> $$$$VAYU-1,33,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.96,26*9D34
[13:12] <junderwood> $$ VA2U-1,34,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.95,26*83E1
[13:12] <fsphil> almost directly
[13:12] <fsphil> no wonder it's so still here
[13:12] <Willdude123> Hi eroomde, how are you?
[13:13] <junderwood> Oh. Increasing again
[13:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> http://www.meteorologica.info/FreeImages/Eurostreamlines.jpg
[13:13] Nick change: skoushik|2 -> skoushik
[13:13] <SP9UOB-Tom> the eye is over atlantic
[13:14] <chrisstubbs> ID on 34? I wonder why it was restarted
[13:14] <fsphil> the raintoday radar has the rain rotating over a spot here
[13:14] <GMT> wooo, lightning
[13:14] <chrisstubbs> Unless he had it on for testing, and only powered it on again just before launch
[13:15] <junderwood> Got another parial a couple of minutes ago. String 66 but still no GPS lock.
[13:15] <junderwood> Lost it completely now
[13:15] <Willdude123> So. What's going on in the world of hab today?
[13:16] <chrisstubbs> hopefully if it staus up for a bit it will get a lock
[13:16] <junderwood> It's alive!
[13:16] <chrisstubbs> whoop
[13:16] <DL1SGP> :)
[13:17] <junderwood> $$$$VAYU-1,80,13:16:44,51.730167,-1.298676,231,0.52,9,1,1,2.94,25*38AC
[13:17] <junderwood> Scouts JOTA Youlbury Oxford UK - http://3dcu.be/trackhab
[13:17] <junderwood> $$$$VAYU-1,81,13:17:10,51.732327,-1.298825,203,0.69,10,1,1,2.94,25*F25C
[13:18] <DL1SGP> that looks great junderwood :)
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[13:18] <chrisg7ogx> very dark and stormy ion the south coast
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[13:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup big fat drops starting in Worthing
[13:19] <chrisstubbs> Still sunny in essex
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[13:20] <malgar> I don't understand how to use this: http://www.cusf.co.uk/hourly-predictions/
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[13:21] <chrisstubbs> Looks like vayu is coming down :(
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[13:22] <chrisstubbs> malgar, the holury predictors are now all hosted on habhub
[13:22] <chrisstubbs> would you like one set up for your launch site?
[13:23] <chrisg7ogx> chrisstubbs has paid his taxes!!
[13:23] <chrisg7ogx> maybe rain beating it down?
[13:23] <chrisstubbs> ?
[13:23] <chrisg7ogx> sunshine
[13:24] <chrisg7ogx> come on work with me here!
[13:24] <chrisstubbs> hopefully if it dosent go too far steve will be able to top it up with a little more helium
[13:24] <malgar> chrisstubbs: yes, just for a try now
[13:25] <chrisstubbs> Okay malgar you need to speak to one of the guys on #habhub to have an account set up
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[13:26] <Steve_M0SXH> Anyone recieving VAYU?
[13:26] <chrisstubbs> junderwood_M0JCU, was
[13:26] <junderwood_M0JCU> still am
[13:26] <chrisstubbs> I have a worrying thought its stuck in that tree
[13:27] <chrisstubbs> ping daveake_
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[13:27] <junderwood_M0JCU> Hmm. It isn't moving much, is it?
[13:27] <chrisstubbs> No :(
[13:27] <chrisg7ogx> Thunder and lightning on route :@{ http://www.isleofwightweather.co.uk/live_storm_data.htm
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[13:33] <DL1SGP> it seems to be stuck somewhere
[13:33] <DL1SGP> hmm
[13:33] <chrisstubbs> I just text steve with an update
[13:34] <DL1SGP> great chrisstubbs
[13:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh weather has hit Worthing!
[13:34] Action: DL1SGP needs to find his UK simcards
[13:34] <Herman-PB0AHX> good afternoon all flies vayu already been
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[13:36] <Willdude123> Any major launches today?
[13:37] <chrisstubbs> Steve said he is on his way to find it
[13:37] <GMT> VAYU launched a little while ago, seems to be stuck? very bad weather passing through the area
[13:37] <chrisstubbs> Willdude123, Steve_G0TDJ launched earlier but it has landed again just down the road
[13:37] <chrisstubbs> should be able to top it up with some more He
[13:38] Nick change: DL7AD_ -> DL7AD
[13:39] <Herman-PB0AHX> but I hope that the weather is better for everyone
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[13:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/VAYU_20131020/
[13:39] <eroomde> rain has hit me now
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[13:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> Just lost Sat TV signal as well due to rain levels!
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[13:40] <Willdude123> chrisstubbs, LOL
[13:41] <Willdude123> How
[13:41] <fsphil> quite nice here :)
[13:41] <fsphil> well the occasional shower
[13:41] <Herman-PB0AHX> i lost also the batc live stream it is very bad i think
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[13:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> 5mm in5minutes here!
[13:42] <DL1SGP> what is the record for shortest flight?
[13:42] <gb73d> did Coxon launch ?
[13:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> anyone hac contact to UR3PAS
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[13:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> anyone has contact to UR3PAS?
[13:46] <chrisstubbs> gb73d, James launched ATLAS yesterday, floated overnight and burst this morning
[13:46] <Willdude123> chrisstubbs, how exactly did it do that? Was there a leak
[13:47] <chrisstubbs> Maybe, or just got weighed down by rain
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[13:49] <jcoxon> hmmm someone is spamming hte receiver box a bit
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[13:50] <chrisstubbs> Yes, does the couchDB not have a character limit?
[13:52] <gb73d> ok tyvm did anyone rx the 13mhz beacon?
[13:53] <jcoxon> gb73d, no no one
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[13:53] <gb73d> ok better luck next time, today heavy thundery showers
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[13:54] <daveake_> lots of rain here
[13:54] <chrisstubbs> Hows it going daveake_?
[13:54] <gb73d> high dave
[13:54] <daveake_> Steve has gone to get soaked
[13:54] <daveake_> and perhaps find his payload
[13:54] <chrisstubbs> :(
[13:54] <daveake_> In car#
[13:54] <daveake_> Decoding clearly
[13:55] <chrisstubbs> Pi car setup working well?
[13:55] <chrisstubbs> You dont have a chase car on the map
[13:55] <Upu> decoding what ?
[13:56] <DL1SGP> VAYU-1 @Upu
[13:56] <Upu> its on the ground isn't it ?
[13:57] <DL1SGP> daveake assisted steve during launch, as to present it looks like the balloon got struck in a tree after a short flight
[13:57] <Upu> oh
[13:57] <Upu> oops
[13:57] <Upu> Yeah Dave has previous on picos in trees
[13:57] <daveake_> lol
[13:57] <daveake_> This one cleared the local trees
[13:57] <daveake_> Looks like it got wet
[13:58] Action: DL1SGP thinks there are boyscouts in the rear of dave's car refueling the chainsaw and testing it's proper operation while he concentrates on the road
[13:58] <daveake_> It's raining like it did when I retrieved that PAVA
[13:58] <junderwood_M0JCU> daveake_, was that the one off the A34?
[13:58] <daveake_> yup
[13:59] <junderwood_M0JCU> Must be something about the A34 :)
[13:59] <daveake_> Didn't need a shower that month :p
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[14:01] <LeoBodnar> I assume safe society rules do not allow Steve go chasing their balloon together with kids?
[14:01] <DL1SGP> well gladly it chose the tree and not the high power line that runs through there
[14:02] <LeoBodnar> It's conductive
[14:02] <LeoBodnar> On the outside
[14:02] <eroomde> 'i'm taking them to find a balloon, officer'
[14:02] <daveake_> ok car on map
[14:02] <DL1SGP> lamost there
[14:02] <DL1SGP> *almost
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[14:03] <daveake_> We need Steve to be uploading his position, with a suitable icon :)
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[14:03] <wd8mnv> there's a bus stop right there
[14:03] <eroomde> my house is about 1km from the landing spot
[14:03] <eroomde> sadly i'm not there or I'd come and say hello
[14:04] <wd8mnv> might not run on sundays
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[14:04] <daveake_> Is someone spamming spacenear - see the listener list for
[14:04] <daveake_> SP9UOB
[14:04] <DL1SGP> even if entirely holllow and filled with helium a balloon would still know to avoid taking the bus :)
[14:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> wow... i need stations in Asia http://sp9uob.verox.pl/pliki/pico10path.gif
[14:04] <daveake_> Shame eroomde
[14:04] <SP9UOB-Tom> daveake_: yes we are searching him
[14:04] <daveake_> Steve might need somewhere to dry off :p
[14:05] <chrisstubbs> Why did I find this so funny: http://i.imgur.com/hERs44x.png
[14:05] <SP9UOB-Tom> daveake_: can You check his IP address ?
[14:05] <daveake_> I can't, no
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[14:11] <Hix> adamgreig - do you know of any rooms apart form #ipython on IRC? Trying to get notebook to run in windows, failing miserably
[14:11] <adamgreig> one of the guys in my lab was moaning about that I think
[14:11] <adamgreig> maybe anaconda
[14:11] <eroomde> join the darkside
[14:11] <adamgreig> or use linux or mac like a sensible person
[14:11] <eroomde> ^
[14:12] <Upu> hah
[14:12] <eroomde> the second you start to write software, posix is a much happier ecosystem to live in, imo
[14:13] <Hix> yes, got it on my xubuntu vm but trying to get it to work on Win7 so I can use it at work
[14:13] <Hix> tried EPD and anaconda but to no avail
[14:13] <Willdude123> I've never actually used a mac properly
[14:13] <Willdude123> I've used them in apple stores
[14:14] <eroomde> it's just unix under the hood, so it'd be quite familiar to you if you're used to the command line
[14:14] <eroomde> that said the package manager (homebrew) is decent but not quite as good as the mature linux ones, in my experience
[14:14] <eroomde> but it can run adobe stuff which is a plus
[14:14] <adamgreig> not least because it used gentoo as a model!?
[14:14] <adamgreig> but that's because old mac package management was a port of ports for gentoo anyway
[14:15] <adamgreig> so I guess they stuck to the crazy "oh we'll just distribute source code, your macbook air can compile all the software you need" idiocy
[14:15] <eroomde> and ofcourse octave needs to compile all of tex
[14:15] <adamgreig> of course
[14:16] <eroomde> I showed james %%octave on friday
[14:16] <eroomde> he nearly wet himself
[14:16] <adamgreig> haha
[14:16] <adamgreig> it is amazing
[14:16] <eroomde> Hix, are there any standout 3d parts libraries for cad online?
[14:16] <adamgreig> especially the automagic copying whole arrays of data in and out of octave
[14:17] <eroomde> i specifically want to be able to search for a M3x30 cap head, say, rather than by manufacturer
[14:17] <Hix> eroomde www.3dcontentcentral.com
[14:17] <daveake_> Signal stopped I assume that means Steve has found it and switched it off
[14:17] <Hix> SW should have them already no?
[14:17] <eroomde> it wants me to sign up
[14:17] <eroomde> what's up with these people
[14:17] <eroomde> why do they need my phone number
[14:17] <eroomde> SW has them if you pay for the addon
[14:17] <Hix> its a really good site
[14:17] <eroomde> we didn't
[14:17] <Hix> ah oki
[14:17] <Hix> Catia has ;p
[14:19] <eroomde> registered anyhoo
[14:19] <Hix> worth it. You'll find loads of stuff there - saves hours
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[14:20] <Hix> eroomde have any idea what this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xxJMRdUP could mean or be ebing caused by?
[14:21] <eroomde> so the short answer is no
[14:21] <Hix> snap
[14:21] <eroomde> but the way to read stacktraces like that is from the bottom up
[14:22] <eroomde> and it's saying you've asked it to try and make something lowercase that it doesn't recognise
[14:22] <eroomde> perhaps because it's unicode rather than ascii
[14:22] <eroomde> what did you do to get that error?
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[14:22] <Hix> input "ipython notebook --pylab inline" at cmd
[14:23] <eroomde> nice
[14:23] <adamgreig> haha that's reassuring
[14:23] <Hix> really infuriating
[14:23] <eroomde> does it work without the --pylab inline bit?
[14:23] <adamgreig> oh my god that's a hell of a stack trace
[14:23] <eroomde> because the rror is being thrown by matplotlib which is brought in with the pylab magic
[14:23] <daveake_> VAYU-1 is in a tree; Steve has returned to get an extendable pole to retrieve. Sensibly I'm staying in the car :p
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[14:23] <Hix> nope - same issues
[14:24] <adamgreig> python3 might actually help. it looks like maybe windows is passing unicode in for the command line parameters and it's expecting unicode and getting upset somewhere
[14:24] <adamgreig> but oh god
[14:24] <adamgreig> I would google for a tutorial on settign up ipython notebook on windows
[14:24] <Hix> I'm not going there :)
[14:24] <adamgreig> someone must have made one by now
[14:24] <eroomde> yes, that was my next suggestion - python3 is unicode instead of ascii by default
[14:24] <Hix> rocking horse.......
[14:24] <eroomde> but that's still a wierd error
[14:24] <Hix> been searching for the holy grail since yesterday evening
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[14:27] <Maxell> UK 13:30UTC? Ish
[14:27] <Maxell> :p
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[14:30] <zyp> UK UTC?
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[14:32] <Upu> UTC is UTC :)
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[14:36] <eroomde> UK is BST currently though
[14:36] <eroomde> UTC+1
[14:36] <GMT> we change times next weekend
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[14:40] <daveake_> VAYU-1 recovered after its short flight :)
[14:40] <DL1SGP> wooot
[14:40] <eroomde> there might be an award for that flight
[14:40] <daveake_> shortest? doubt it - I did one of 200m :)
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[14:41] <daveake_> laterz
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[14:41] <eroomde> well, one that clears the tree lines at least
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[14:43] <Willdude123> Hi.
[14:43] <Willdude123> eroomde, what antenna setup do you have for HABs?
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[14:45] <eroomde> I don't have anything set up for habs
[14:45] <eroomde> when was the last time you saw m track one?
[14:46] <eroomde> however i do have W50
[14:46] <eroomde> and ayagi
[14:47] <adamgreig> I should really get my W50 back. could stick it out the skylight quite happily here
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[14:49] <GMT> gonna try again with VAYU?
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[14:50] <Steve_G0TDJ> hey :-)
[14:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> Any luck to refill and release again ?
[14:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> no, absolutely torrential now
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[14:51] <Steve_G0TDJ> on the way back home
[14:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> lasted for less than 30 minutes here then it started to shine again!
[14:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> doh
[14:52] <GMT> cleared up in London too
[14:52] <Steve_G0TDJ> never mind. its been a fun learning experience
[14:53] <Steve_G0TDJ> i'll try and go for a local launch soon
[14:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/VAYU_20131020/index.php?ind=0
[14:54] <Steve_G0TDJ> can you post that later for me please Geoff-G8DHE
[14:54] <Steve_G0TDJ> cant look on this awful irc client
[14:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup shout but it will be in the log as well
[14:54] <Steve_G0TDJ> cool, cheers
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[14:56] <LeoBodnar> Hey Steve_G0TDJ
[14:56] <Steve_G0TDJ> hey Leo :-)
[14:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> not much of a first flight
[14:57] <LeoBodnar> It has flown still
[14:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> true
[14:57] <Steve_G0TDJ> i',
[14:57] <LeoBodnar> still as in anyway not as in "not moving"
[14:58] <Steve_G0TDJ> i'll do another soon
[14:58] <eroomde> Unrelatedly, while listening to Stravinsky, I read an interview with him on his return from Russia to the US. He was asked what he most enjoyed about Russia: "the vodka and the exit visa"
[14:58] <Steve_G0TDJ> lol
[14:59] <Steve_G0TDJ> I'm going to sign off for now. be back later when I'm home and dry (literally! :-)
[14:59] <Steve_G0TDJ> ..
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[15:00] <Hix> adamgreig eroomde - it is sorted. Turns out its a shitty thing to do with non ascii characters in font names. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MEnRs1Vs for the guy in your lab adamgreig
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[15:00] <eroomde> congrats
[15:00] <eroomde> glad you found a solution
[15:01] <Hix> :D
[15:01] <eroomde> those kinds of problems can either be solved with a tiny google or a different operating system
[15:01] <eroomde> there rarely seems to be much middleground
[15:01] <Hix> shame most of the weekend is gone now
[15:01] <eroomde> i spent ages on cad not desinging
[15:01] <eroomde> but faffing with tools
[15:01] <eroomde> price you pay for learning new stuff
[15:02] <Hix> yup
[15:02] <Hix> it ended up with "sfnt4.decode" search term that cracked it
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[15:03] <Hix> and all that was needed was ", ignore" adding to font_manager.py
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[15:03] <LeoBodnar> I have an impression CAD software designers intentionally keep software difficult to use trying to make it elitist end expensive for no reason
[15:04] <nats`> hi guys :)
[15:04] <Hix> a day and a half for ", ignore" meh!
[15:04] <SpeedEvil> LeoBodnar: Not true.
[15:04] <SpeedEvil> I bring as a counterexample blender.
[15:04] <Upu> LeoBodnar didn't work for Eagle
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[15:04] <nats`> SpeedEvil ironic ? :D
[15:04] <SpeedEvil> Which is just hard to use, not expensive.
[15:05] <nats`> ohhh
[15:05] <eroomde> LeoBodnar, yes
[15:05] <Hix> there is a mindset for CAD and once you have it, you start to see the logic
[15:05] <eroomde> but reciprocally, it seems really widely cracked
[15:05] <Zuph> I'd be perfectly happy with FreeCAD if it would just let me put multiple parts into an assembly.
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[15:06] <eroomde> i guess their business model is just to sell to businesses that can afford 5k/seat, knowing that it's not worth the risk to them to use cracked versions
[15:06] <LeoBodnar> I think I have tried to squeeze into that mindset and I still think it's basically shit
[15:06] <eroomde> and ignore the consumer market completely
[15:06] <Zuph> Although for EDA software, I've fallen in love with Diptrace.
[15:07] <nats`> Zuph for his price diptrace is awesome
[15:07] <SpeedEvil> Hix: I did learn a bit of autocad a while back - then did stuff in kpovrayedit without problems. Blender floored me.
[15:08] <Zuph> Beats the pants off of Eagle, KiCad, etc.
[15:08] <nats`> yep but you can't really compare kicad to diptrace
[15:08] <nats`> for a price of zero kicad is great
[15:08] <nats`> for a professional tool diptrace is clearly one of the best if you don't need fancy stuff
[15:08] <Hix> got SpeedEvil AutoCAD is purely evil, just ask chrisstubbs :D
[15:09] <Zuph> For most folks, Diptrace has 0 cost as well :-)
[15:09] <chrisstubbs> I book time off work just to avoid autocad
[15:09] <nats`> Zuph you mean russian license ? :D
[15:09] <Zuph> Nope, They have a nonprofit license that allows up to 600 pins, iirc.
[15:09] <nats`> because the limited version are quickly out of use
[15:09] <Zuph> You have to email for the key, though
[15:09] <nats`> yep 600 pin is quickyl reached
[15:10] <Willdude123> eroomde, true point, I've never seen you track one.
[15:10] <Willdude123> Why not though?
[15:10] <eroomde> have been in a bit of a hab fug for a few years
[15:10] <Zuph> Eh, I get close to 600 pins for hobby projects, but I've never had it limit what I could do.
[15:10] <eroomde> since about 2010
[15:10] <chrisstubbs> I might have another play with solidworks now actually
[15:11] <Willdude123> eroomde, fug?
[15:11] <Zuph> The only thing I wish it would do is trace length/impedance matching. Routing USB can be a pain.
[15:11] <Hix> I'm currently self learning a thing called TracePRO for work. its a raytracing program for photometry - that, my friends is a thing of horror in immeasurable proportions
[15:11] <eroomde> a stale state
[15:11] <eroomde> i've not been that interested
[15:12] <nats`> Zuph you don't have diff pair in the free version ?
[15:12] <Zuph> It isn't in the paid version either.
[15:12] <Zuph> I've got the paid version at work.
[15:12] <adamgreig> fugue?
[15:12] <nats`> I never routed anything with diff pair in it but that's a really deal breaker
[15:13] <adamgreig> huh, I guess fug is right too
[15:13] <Zuph> You can fudge it, since it will let you see the length of each trace
[15:14] <eroomde> it was since the esa testing really. i can't see myself doing anything that ambitious with latex balloons again, and i don't really like flying just for the sake of flying, and also that project really took it out of me
[15:14] <Hix> fug, fugue, fudge is this a contest?
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[15:15] <eroomde> oh god why do RC people not include proper dimensioned drawings of their stuff!
[15:16] <eroomde> i could kill someone!
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[15:16] <Zuph> eroomde: Servo drawings are the worst.
[15:16] <eroomde> Zuph, i had to buy them
[15:16] <Hix> eroomde I'm beginning to think it's down to China getting hold of everything and copying it all
[15:16] <eroomde> but i can't keep waiting 3 days for shipping every time i want to cad a part
[15:17] <Zuph> Haha. I pick parts that someone else has made a CAD model of, and hope their model is right :-p
[15:17] <eroomde> i found dimensions for the servo i bought on servocity
[15:17] <eroomde> they were all wrong
[15:17] <eroomde> clearly some work experience kid who doesn't know how to use calipers was plonked in a room with 200 servos to measure as quickly as possible
[15:17] <Hix> eroomde try rcgroups.com sure they had a repo of CAD models
[15:17] <eroomde> I'll look
[15:18] <eroomde> but life is a bit too short to talk to RC people
[15:18] <Hix> heh
[15:18] <eroomde> the SNR from an engineering PoV is up there with youtube comments
[15:18] <Hix> which servo eroomde
[15:18] <eroomde> HS5087MH
[15:18] <eroomde> i've bought it and made it now
[15:18] <Hix> hitec?
[15:19] <eroomde> yes
[15:19] <eroomde> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4bppl72x5f4peyk/HS5087MH.png
[15:19] <eroomde> made it
[15:19] <eroomde> it's ball sinkages that i can't find dimensions for now
[15:19] <eroomde> hobbyking ust has 'Ball Linkages' and a photo of some, for example
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[15:19] <eroomde> no other technical info than that
[15:19] <eroomde> it's feeble
[15:19] <Hix> gonna say ball sinkage isnt a term im going to goolge :D
[15:20] <GMT> end up looking at golf-porn
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[15:22] <Hix> eroomde might have something for you. sec
[15:22] <Willdude123> eroomde, fair enough
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[15:22] <Willdude123> I figured out how dominoex works btw
[15:22] <eroomde> good
[15:23] <Willdude123> Need to look into it a bit more, and not give up.
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[15:23] <wb8elk> can someone approve a Flight Doc: dbbd71824a8abbb5379a450729e31f1a
[15:23] <Hix> #habhub is the place wb8elk
[15:23] <jcoxon> wb8elk, the best thing is post flight docs on #habhub
[15:24] <Hix> eroomde these? http://imgur.com/be8C6qA
[15:25] <eroomde> that sort of thing yep
[15:25] <tweetBot> @AMSAT_UK: Indian Record for Tracking Ham Radio Balloon http://t.co/hsscUs7nQQ #amsat #hamr #ukhas #hab #dhruva #ison
[15:25] <Hix> I need to find my very nears and then I can measure them for you
[15:25] <Upu> got it wb8elk
[15:25] <Upu> done
[15:26] <jcoxon> interesting stuff from the indian teams
[15:26] <eroomde> very nears?
[15:26] <jcoxon> http://amsat-uk.org/2013/10/20/indian-record-for-tracking-ham-radio-balloon/
[15:26] <Hix> verniers
[15:27] <Hix> NDT guy refers to them as that
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[15:27] <eroomde> ooh comit Ison
[15:27] <eroomde> i had forgotten about that
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[15:29] <jcoxon> wb8elk, going for float?
[15:30] <Martin_G4FUI> Might be another Kahoutek (sp?)
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[15:30] <wb8elk> yes indeed
[15:31] <wb8elk> 30 hours to the UK
[15:32] <wb8elk> remarkably if you run the CUSF predictor with a descent rate of 0.02 m/s it simulates the HYSPLIT track almost perfectly
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> Surely that's as it should be?
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> Aren't they running off the same dats.
[15:33] <jcoxon> wb8elk, yeah i regularly run the prediction with a descent of 0.00001
[15:33] <jcoxon> wb8elk, do you have a link to the prediction
[15:33] <jcoxon> (if you copy the url we can have a look)
[15:34] <Laurenceb_> what happened to B-20?
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[15:36] <SP9UOB-Tom> well i have leak, or ballon is wet/iced
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[15:37] <ramm25> 2A5< ?@825B
[15:38] <DL1SGP> privet to the lovely republic of moldavia!
[15:39] <ramm25> DL1SGP @825B, => O 87 #:@08=K)
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[15:40] <ibanezmatt13> Can anybody see anything wrong with this way of reading data in from the serial port? https://gist.github.com/ibanezmatt13/7071082
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[15:43] <ramm25> DL1SGP, :0: 4;0 :>;;530? How do you do?
[15:44] <DL1SGP> I am allright, and you? sorry bit too busy to converse in russian right now so if we could use English I'd be grateful
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[15:44] <DL1SGP> hope you are good too? what is WX like in Odessa lately?
[15:50] <ramm25> DL1SGP, I'm fine, thank you. the weather was pretty good. i have seen on the tracker balls that fly to us, may be at least one fly over Odessa.
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[15:50] <DL1SGP> fingers crossed... I worked ER3CT trough the WAG contest. made me think of PB0NER
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[15:57] <ramm25> i am a little work, mostly I like to just listen. today I'm at work, looking forward to tomorrow to come home.
[15:58] <DL1SGP> ah :) I hope you will be having a safe return home
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[16:00] <DL1SGP> welkom terug Rene
[16:01] <ramm25> DL1SGP, i hope that one of the balls landing in my region.
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[16:22] <ibanezmatt13> Does anybody know what's wrong with the loop function at the end of this code: https://gist.github.com/ibanezmatt13/7071082
[16:22] <ibanezmatt13> I'm not hearing any data and as far as I can see, it should work
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[16:23] <ibanezmatt13> the problem seems to be that it never gets to the calling of rtty_txstring(datastring)
[16:25] <ibanezmatt13> it's so frustrating, I can't see what's up with it
[16:27] <daveake> I can
[16:27] <ibanezmatt13> please tell me
[16:27] <ibanezmatt13> please :/
[16:28] <daveake> It's after while(1)
[16:28] <daveake> unless I'm missing a bracket
[16:28] <daveake> but nothing after while(1) will ever execute
[16:28] <joph> and even if there's a brake, n is always >= 90
[16:29] <ibanezmatt13> oh
[16:29] <daveake> This code is in loop(); that executes in, well, a loop. So no need for while(1) anyway
[16:29] <joph> on the other hand break exits just out of one while loop
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[16:29] <ibanezmatt13> oh right
[16:29] <daveake> Next, it's all rather convoluted for what it's trying to do
[16:30] <daveake> I'd start again with a clear vision of what I was trying to do
[16:30] <ibanezmatt13> ah, ok I'll scrap it and start again :)
[16:30] <daveake> yes
[16:30] <daveake> sorry
[16:30] <ibanezmatt13> nah it's fine, I need to know if I'm doing it wrong so thank you
[16:30] <joph> yeah
[16:30] <joph> you missed one break
[16:30] <joph> it can never exit out of the outer while loop
[16:30] <ibanezmatt13> I see
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[16:31] <joph> break kills this loop: "while (buffer != EOF)"
[16:31] <ibanezmatt13> ah yes
[16:31] <ibanezmatt13> I need another
[16:31] <joph> but not this one: while(1)
[16:31] <ibanezmatt13> but it still won't work
[16:31] <joph> of course
[16:31] <daveake> clue: all you need to do in loo() is a) test to see if there is a character, b) if so get it, c) do something with it
[16:31] <daveake> loop()
[16:31] <joph> cause your break condition is a value above 90
[16:31] <daveake> Oh yeah, WTF is "EOF" anyway?
[16:31] <joph> or even 90
[16:31] <joph> and you proof if it's lower than 90
[16:32] <ibanezmatt13> daveake, I was having so much trouble trying to check for a \n or \r I just went for it for some reason
[16:32] <ibanezmatt13> yes joph, thanks
[16:32] <daveake> \n is correct
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[16:32] <joph> (cause I never worked with c++ I assume that this rule from C applies to it)
[16:33] <ibanezmatt13> daveake, I was doing while (buffer != '\n') but it kept rejecting it so I just went for something else
[16:33] <daveake> btw don't call it "buffer"
[16:33] <daveake> That will confuse people who read the code
[16:33] <ibanezmatt13> oh ok, I'll call it, character then
[16:33] <daveake> buffer would normally be, well, a buffer. Like, a string.
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[16:33] <ibanezmatt13> good point
[16:34] <daveake> Call the buffer buffer, or Line
[16:34] <ibanezmatt13> ok
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[16:36] <joph> ibanezmatt13, and if you want to increment use n++ or ++n, n=n+1 confuses people if they read your code, for this case use n += 1;
[16:37] <ibanezmatt13> ok, ta
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[16:38] <joph> * i meant not this case but if you want to add for example a value like 2 to n with n += 2;
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[16:38] <ibanezmatt13> yeah, n++ is fine
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[16:43] <ibanezmatt13> daveake: https://gist.github.com/ibanezmatt13/7071082
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[16:46] <ibanezmatt13> daveake, does that look ok?
[16:48] <ibanezmatt13> oh wait daveake, I've not reset the string anywhere, one sec
[16:50] <ibanezmatt13> sorted daveake, this look ok? https://gist.github.com/ibanezmatt13/7071082
[16:51] <WillTablet> Hi ibanezmatt13
[16:51] <ibanezmatt13> Hi Will
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[16:51] Nick change: WillTablet -> u
[16:51] Action: u mad bro
[16:52] <ibanezmatt13> don't think so :)
[16:52] Nick change: u -> WillTablet
[16:52] <WillTablet> Finally found an LGBT friendly Minecraft server only to find it's empty :-)
[16:53] <ibanezmatt13> WillTablet: http://www.norb.co.uk Look at new picture
[16:53] <adamgreig> WillTablet: does minecraft's online community generally have an issue there?
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[17:14] <WillTablet> adamgreig sorta. Also generally in the gaming community things get called gay all the time
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[17:15] <WillTablet> ibanezmatt13 awesome
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[17:16] <WillTablet> adamgreig it feels even worse being called gay when you actually are (sort of, I'm bisexual)
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[17:17] <WillTablet> ibanezmatt13 that looks awesome
[17:18] <ibanezmatt13> cheers Will
[17:18] <ibanezmatt13> I have good news
[17:18] <ibanezmatt13> daveake: It'ss working!!!!!!
[17:18] <WillTablet> Cool
[17:19] <WillTablet> adamgreig I actually fell out with someone quite badly in BF3 because they were being homophobic.
[17:19] <ibanezmatt13> https://www.dropbox.com/s/aj6yxkkfs73qz04/dl.png
[17:19] <WillTablet> I reported them to EA
[17:19] <WillTablet> :-)
[17:19] <ibanezmatt13> does anybody know why on every other line I get like a double sentence? https://www.dropbox.com/s/aj6yxkkfs73qz04/dl.png
[17:20] <ibanezmatt13> I mean, it works but it's just strange
[17:21] <eroomde_> not sending a \n?
[17:21] <chrisstubbs> Nice one matt
[17:21] <ibanezmatt13> thanks chrisstubbs
[17:21] <ibanezmatt13> probably eroomde_
[17:21] <ibanezmatt13> eroomde_: https://gist.github.com/ibanezmatt13/70710827
[17:21] <ibanezmatt13> oops
[17:21] <ibanezmatt13> https://gist.github.com/ibanezmatt13/7071082
[17:22] <chrisstubbs> I got a bit carried away with solidworks :P http://grab.by/rjpG
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[17:22] <eroomde_> your job to fix
[17:22] <ibanezmatt13> :)
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[17:24] <ibanezmatt13> eroomde_: I think there's a chance that on one iteration of the loop, it adds the \n to the string when it transmits, and on another iteration it doesn't add it. That would explain it, but I'm not sure why that is just yet :P
[17:24] <ibanezmatt13> leave it to me
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[17:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> hi UT3BW, where are You from ?
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[18:10] <x-f> is this SQ9ATC's first pico?
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[18:12] <LeoBodnar> x-f: I think they use home-made envelopes
[18:12] <x-f> interesting
[18:13] <AK4RP> wb8elk: what are the parameters?
[18:16] <x-f> AK4RP, you need RTTY parameters?
[18:16] <SP9UOB-Tom> they are using "painting cover" foil
[18:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> or protective film - i dont know how it is called in english
[18:17] <SP9UOB-Tom> http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/859/yj46.jpg
[18:20] <LeoBodnar> This does not look like fitting into 2m ?
[18:20] <SP9UOB-Tom> no it doesnt
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[18:21] <AK4RP> frequency, mode, anything
[18:22] <AK4RP> everything :)
[18:22] <x-f> from the payload doc: 433.93 MHz, AM, Domino EX 16
[18:22] <AK4RP> thanks
[18:22] <x-f> 433.92*
[18:22] <AK4RP> where does one find such thing as a payload doc?
[18:23] <x-f> http://habitat.habhub.org/genpayload/
[18:24] <x-f> click first "start from existing", enter "wb8elk_mylar" and there it is
[18:24] <x-f> it's on the calendar feed too
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[18:25] <ibanezmatt13> With 0805 chip LEDs, how can I tell which is the cathode and which is the anode?
[18:25] <x-f> not really user-friendly, but it's something for the future i think
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[18:26] <AK4RP> indeed, thanks
[18:26] <ibanezmatt13> on one side there's like a green line, is that the anode or the cathode
[18:26] <x-f> np
[18:26] <Upu> ibanezmatt13 stick a multimeter in continuity mode on it
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[18:26] <qyx_> ibanezmatt13: look in the datasheet
[18:26] <qyx_> or multimeter
[18:26] <Upu> it will light up dimmly
[18:26] <ibanezmatt13> multimeter not available Upu
[18:26] <ibanezmatt13> ah yes
[18:26] <Upu> if thats a word
[18:26] <ibanezmatt13> ok
[18:26] <Upu> not availble ?
[18:26] <Upu> Christmas pressie time
[18:26] <ibanezmatt13> lol, certainly
[18:26] <Upu> how have you got so far with no meter
[18:27] <ibanezmatt13> geniusnes
[18:27] <ibanezmatt13> if that's a word ;)
[18:27] <UT3BW> KN 29ua
[18:27] <Gadget-Mac> ibanezmatt13: Nice board....... you need a samller xtal though ;) Looks wrong when the xtal is as big as the uP
[18:27] <jcoxon> AK4RP, i'll add those details to the spacenear.us map for future listeners
[18:28] <ibanezmatt13> Gadget-Mac: to be honest, I think the crystal makes it look as awesome as it is :P
[18:28] <x-f> SP9UOB-Tom, ^^
[18:28] <ibanezmatt13> but thank you! :)
[18:29] <ibanezmatt13> Upu, if I fire 1.5v thorugh the LED, will it not blow up without a resistor?
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[18:29] <qyx_> always use current limited source to pwoer leds
[18:30] <ibanezmatt13> mm, yeah I guess I could go find a resistor somewhere
[18:30] <qyx_> you need to supply at least the forward voltage which depends on color
[18:30] <tjanos> Good evening...
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[18:30] <UT3BW> pse po polsku
[18:30] <tjanos> SP9UOB-Tomasz, are you here?
[18:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> yes, i am
[18:30] <DL1SGP> Hi tjanos
[18:30] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW: gdzie jestes
[18:31] <tjanos> Hello! what about your ballon?
[18:31] <UT3BW> Chortkiw
[18:31] <tjanos> Sry, morning my internet went down, and this was a good apropo for my wife to propese to go out of the city.
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[18:32] <tjanos> It was very nice late summertime weather, strong sunshine and 24 C temp, it was realy a good idea to go out.
[18:32] <UT3BW> 75km na PD od Tarnopolia
[18:32] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW: QTH LOCATOR ?
[18:32] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW: posluchan 437.600 MHz USB
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[18:32] <UT3BW> KN29ua
[18:32] <tjanos> I sent mail to George, UY2RA, near Kiev, but he wasnot able to install the dl-fldigi. Maybe he need a small help.
[18:32] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW: posluchaj 437.600 MHz USB
[18:33] <UT3BW> nic - zero!
[18:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW: musi byc na ziemi juz
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[18:33] <UT3BW> to jest daleko od mne
[18:34] <tjanos> If he is at home, he will help us.
[18:36] <adamgreig> WillTablet: ah, that sucks. it gets much better at uni.
[18:37] <UT3BW> musi byc na ziemi juz - tak bo bylo nizhej zero
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[18:39] <tjanos> Tom, can you sent him a mail, with a small help howto install/config the fldigi? I will put here his mail addr.
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[18:40] <SP9UOB-Tom> tjanos: http://www.ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide:russian
[18:40] <tjanos> what is your estimation, where is sp9uob now?
[18:41] <qyx_> na zemi? landed already?
[18:41] <SP9UOB-Tom> tjanos: im affraid its on the ground now, but i have no confirmation
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[18:41] <tjanos> Tom, thank you for the russian howto. I will send it to him\
[18:42] <qyx_> i should learn azbuka one day
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[18:44] <henryplumb> Hi all :)
[18:45] <DL1SGP> hi henryplumb
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[18:48] <DL1SGP> welcome back malgar
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[18:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW_: balon powinien byc w okolicy Zhytomyr, znasz kogos kto tam moze posluchac na 70 cm?
[18:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW_: http://spacenear.us/tracker/?filter=SP9UOB
[18:55] <UT3BW_> Ni
[18:56] <UT3BW_> to est nerealne teraz
[18:56] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW_: rozumiem
[18:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW_: dziekuje
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[18:59] <UT3BW_> pszed startem treba bylo zrobic duze reklame przed amatorami Ukrainy Hi
[18:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW_: podaj mi twoj e-mail
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[18:59] <UT3BW_> kagor55#mail.ru
[18:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW_: przed startem wysle wiadomosc, bedzie na fakach krotkich - 21 MHz
[19:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW_: thanks
[19:00] <SP9UOB-Tom> UT3BW_: dziekuje
[19:00] <UT3BW_> dobze
[19:00] <UT3BW_> czest!
[19:01] <chrisstubbs> Evening Steve_G0TDJ
[19:02] <Steve_G0TDJ> High chirs - on the phone brb
[19:02] <Steve_G0TDJ> Chris, sorry
[19:02] <DL1SGP> hi chrisstubbs
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[19:03] <ibanezmatt13> chrisstubbs, LEDs flashing away beautifully, small vid coming very shortly :)
[19:04] <x-f> B-20 should now be closer than 100km from me according to the prediction, but.. nothing
[19:04] <chrisstubbs> Nice :)
[19:04] <chrisstubbs> Did you sort your NMEA parser or taking a break?
[19:05] <DL1SGP> thanks for checking x-f
[19:06] <ibanezmatt13> chrisstubbs: sorted it
[19:06] <ibanezmatt13> building the NMEA parser was fairly straight forward tbh. It was reading in the data that was the harder part
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[19:07] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Hopefully this window will work
[19:07] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Hi chrisstubbs
[19:07] <chrisstubbs> Evening
[19:07] <chrisstubbs> Shame about the flight today!
[19:07] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Hi Mate
[19:07] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Yeah, but I learned laods
[19:07] <chrisstubbs> Python has its perks ibanezmatt13
[19:08] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Everyone apparently enjoyed themselves
[19:08] <ibanezmatt13> yep, I think I'm taking to C quite well
[19:08] <chrisstubbs> How much free lift did you go for in the end?
[19:08] <ibanezmatt13> oh yeah how did it go Steve_G0TDJ_?
[19:08] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Good question....... daveake can you remember LOL
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[19:09] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Anyway... About *---* this much
[19:09] <daveake> It just about exceeded the Coxon Kilometre :p
[19:09] <Steve_G0TDJ_> He he
[19:09] <Steve_G0TDJ_> What did we set the lift at>
[19:09] <daveake> 6g
[19:09] <Steve_G0TDJ_> I'm trying to remember the sums you did
[19:09] <DL1SGP> it still was a cool flight, and hey your fears of having to go far for retrieving it were resolved
[19:09] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Cool
[19:10] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Yeah, Felix. The young lad Sebastian spotted it in the Hawthorn
[19:10] <DL1SGP> also thanks for the streaming daveake and for the updates en-route
[19:10] <daveake> np
[19:10] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Oh yes, I'd like to see that. I'll check the site later.
[19:10] <chrisstubbs> I recorded the stream steve incase you wanted a copy for your blog
[19:10] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Thanks for all your help guys, Dave, Chris and Geoff especially
[19:11] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Cheers Chris, is it small enough to send?
[19:11] <chrisstubbs> 34mb
[19:11] <chrisstubbs> will stick it on my server
[19:11] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Cool, I can drag it off there.
[19:12] <arko> oh cool someone flying out of oxford i see
[19:12] <Steve_G0TDJ_> A short flight arko
[19:12] <arko> hehe
[19:12] <Steve_G0TDJ_> :-)
[19:12] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Fun though
[19:13] <Steve_G0TDJ_> I got to do all the things you do at a launch withthe benifit of an experts company.
[19:13] <bertrik> I sent a message to the UKHAS google group, but I don't see it showing up, is it awaiting moderation or something like that?
[19:13] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Yes bertrik
[19:13] <Steve_G0TDJ_> I@m not a mod though
[19:13] <bertrik> ah ok, thanks
[19:13] <Upu> lemmie check
[19:13] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Hey Anthony
[19:13] <Upu> its posted bertrik
[19:13] <Upu> about the RFM22B
[19:13] <Upu> Hey Steve
[19:13] <daveake> Steve_G0TDJ_ http://imgur.com/HE6rN27
[19:13] <Upu> impressive flight today :)
[19:13] <Steve_G0TDJ_> LOL :D
[19:14] <Upu> oh wait you launched a foil in that ?
[19:14] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Great pic daveake
[19:14] <bertrik> no hurry, I was just wondering if the message got lost somehow
[19:14] <daveake> No, *just* before that :p
[19:14] <Steve_G0TDJ_> It wasn't like that when I launched!
[19:14] <Steve_G0TDJ_> I thought we'd miss it... Oh well
[19:14] <arko> haha
[19:14] <arko> what happen?
[19:15] <Steve_G0TDJ_> VAYU will fly again
[19:15] <Steve_G0TDJ_> It went up and the rain drove it down
[19:15] <arko> haha
[19:15] <arko> next time :)
[19:15] <Steve_G0TDJ_> daveake: I was right, I knocked the power switch off when I was attempting recovery
[19:15] <arko> aww rain, how i miss thee
[19:15] <Steve_G0TDJ_> LOL Lier!
[19:15] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Liar even
[19:16] <chrisstubbs> Did you power on the tracker just before you launched it Steve_G0TDJ_? You didnt have a GPS lock for the first 10 or so mins
[19:16] <arko> i love rain no joke
[19:16] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Fair enough.
[19:16] <Steve_G0TDJ_> chrisstubbs: I switched it on way before launch
[19:16] <bertrik> arko: we got a month's worth of rain last sunday here in the netherlands
[19:17] <arko> wow
[19:17] <arko> we had 1 day of it in the last few months
[19:17] <arko> it was so awesome
[19:17] <Steve_G0TDJ_> I do LOVE a proper thunder storm with lightning and everything
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[19:19] <jcoxon> so looks like wb8elk is last one up in hte sky (and being tracked)
[19:19] <fsphil> Steve_G0TDJ_: same here. don't get nearly enough here though
[19:20] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Only happens rarely here too
[19:20] <fsphil> is Bill going for a transatlantic?
[19:20] <fsphil> this one seem to be coming down again
[19:21] <arko> wb8elk: launch it next time so it comes toward los angeles!
[19:21] <arko> i have my preamp running right now
[19:21] <arko> glad to see its in 433mhz
[19:21] <arko> :)
[19:22] <Steve_G0TDJ_> Well guys, I'm shattered. I'm going in search of a cuppa - 73 fer nw
[19:22] <Upu> laters Steve
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[19:22] Nick change: Steve_G0TDJ_ -> Steve_G0TDJ_AFK
[19:22] <ibanezmatt13_> see you
[19:22] <Steve_G0TDJ_AFK> Seeya Anthony
[19:22] <Steve_G0TDJ_AFK> Thanks again guys!
[19:22] <Steve_G0TDJ_AFK> ..
[19:22] <ibanezmatt13_> leds workin Upu :)
[19:22] <Upu> get a multimeter ibanezmatt13_ :)
[19:22] <ibanezmatt13_> and I fixed that code too
[19:22] <ibanezmatt13_> yes I should
[19:23] <ibanezmatt13_> NORB 3 is transmitting empty GGA sentences :)
[19:23] <daveake> Now to do the parsing then
[19:23] <Upu> he need an antenna :)
[19:23] <daveake> he does
[19:23] <chrisstubbs> Laters Steve_G0TDJ_AFK, Just checked your habitat export and it was on for about 15 mins prior to launch but the fix was a bit wobbly on the ground
[19:24] <ibanezmatt13_> hopefully daveake, the NMEA parsing function I wrote should just fall into place. But yeah, we'll see when I get the antenna
[19:24] <Steve_G0TDJ_AFK> Cheers chrisstubbs I@ll have to have a crash course in all this back-endery :D 73
[19:24] <ibanezmatt13_> btw I got that code working earlier too daveake
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[19:24] <Upu> If you have enough money this is a great meter : http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=1274599&isRedirect=true
[19:24] <Upu> cheaper models are availble
[19:24] <ibanezmatt13_> nah
[19:24] <ibanezmatt13_> slightly too much
[19:25] <daveake> Yes ibanezmatt13_ cool. Now you need to check the checksum and parse the sentences
[19:25] <ibanezmatt13_> daveake, yep. But like I say, *hopefully* it all just work. I'll find out after next Sat, I think...
[19:25] <ibanezmatt13_> *hope
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[19:25] <fsphil> TEST
[19:26] <chrisstubbs> 5&9 fsphil
[19:26] <ibanezmatt13_> dont worry fsphil, not flying next weekend, I promise I'll test :
[19:26] <ibanezmatt13_> :)
[19:26] <fsphil> at ibanezmatt13_ :)
[19:26] <chrisstubbs> oh lol
[19:27] <daveake> Saturday?
[19:27] <ibanezmatt13_> although to be honest, when everything's on, it could be ready to fly by next Monday
[19:27] <ibanezmatt13_> daveake, Saturday might be the day the antenna and boost regulator get hooked up
[19:27] <daveake> Oh ok
[19:27] <fsphil> my payload is currently being tested to death
[19:27] <ibanezmatt13_> you can never do too much testing
[19:27] <daveake> ibanezmatt13_ You want to do a lot more testing than that
[19:28] <ibanezmatt13_> lol, only joking :)
[19:28] <ibanezmatt13_> I know
[19:28] <chrisstubbs> Its not quite a fluke but I have a MASTECH MS2108A and its quite nice for £30
[19:28] <SP9UOB-Tom> night all
[19:28] <arko> wb8elk: you around?
[19:29] <fsphil> I've a cheapy dmm -- wouldn't dare try it on mains
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[19:29] <ibanezmatt13_> Don't shout, a cheap Maplin multimeter works for me. I hardly use them.
[19:29] <Upu> it will
[19:29] <chrisstubbs> I stuck a £3 multimeter accross a battery charger today and got a bit worried when it was reading 150v :S
[19:30] <ibanezmatt13_> :p
[19:30] <ibanezmatt13_> ah crap, pot noodle all over laptop
[19:30] <Upu> lol
[19:30] <daveake> best place for it
[19:30] <fsphil> make it taste better
[19:30] <daveake> Might kill Windows too
[19:31] <daveake> Double win
[19:31] <ibanezmatt13_> lol, definitely
[19:31] <ibanezmatt13_> by the way, I'm an expert on Win 8 driver issues so if anybody has any, gimme a shout
[19:31] <ibanezmatt13_> or just don't bother getting win 8
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[19:32] <Upu> that
[19:32] <Upu> I like my Microsoft
[19:32] <Upu> but Windows 8 just gets on my boobies
[19:32] <ibanezmatt13_> :)
[19:33] <fsphil> they probably lost a bet
[19:33] <fsphil> "If you lose, you have to make something worse than WinME"
[19:33] <daveake> "Make something worse than ME"
[19:33] <daveake> snap
[19:33] <daveake> lol
[19:33] <Upu> haha
[19:33] <mfa298> isn't that what they tried to do with Vista
[19:33] <Upu> that didn't end well either
[19:33] <daveake> Yep
[19:33] <chrisstubbs> they just got better at getting worse
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[19:33] <ibanezmatt13_> I have two OSs here, Vista and 8
[19:33] <Upu> by Microsoft track record Windows 9 will be amazing
[19:34] <chrisstubbs> but did okay with 7 somehow
[19:34] <fsphil> 8.1 seems as dire as 8
[19:34] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,1939,192459,50.42172,29.16184,6053,5948,71,103,-20,47519,139,9b*5EB5 _$$$$SP9UOB,1940,192517,50.42094,29.16673,6077,5963,70,105,-20,47425,137,9b*EAE1 _$$$$SP9UOB,1941,192536,50.42024,29.17192,6095,5981,70,104,-20,47305,139,9b*46E4 _$$$$SP9UOB,1942,192555,Q_g_l942,29.17_7G_;l17,5993,70,102,-20,47230,140,9b*0DB2 _$$$$SP9UOB,1943,192613,50.41869,29.18196,6138,6019,73,103,-20,47063,139,9b*BBA1 _$$$$SP9UOB,1944,192632,50.
[19:34] <ibanezmatt13_> Now you understand why I get frustrated
[19:34] <mfa298> then again I'm as happy with Win8 as I ever was with Win7 - but I did buy the Pro version not the cheapy version.
[19:34] <fsphil> like star trek movies .. every other one is good
[19:34] <Upu> hello
[19:34] <Upu> SP9UOB
[19:34] <Upu> let me see if I can fix that RS010
[19:35] <fsphil> they look valid
[19:35] <RS010> decoding info via RadioCiteg
[19:36] <Upu> they are
[19:36] <Upu> k 1 sec
[19:36] <daveake> fsphil AUIU they set up a team do do Win x, then before they finish they set up a new team on Win x+1.
[19:36] <RS010> SP9UOB very strong in Kiev
[19:36] <mfa298> they'de fix windows a lot by following apples example. take a *nix background, give it a nice UI make a way for legacy apps to run easily.
[19:36] <daveake> The latter of course think they know better and don't speak to the other team
[19:36] <daveake> Something like that
[19:37] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,1965,193421,50.39466,29.32213,6428,6320,76,104,-23,45150,136,9b*E104 _$$$$SP9UOB,1966,193440,50.39377,29.32771,6436,6328,76,105,-23,45101,139,9b*F623 _$$$$SP9UOB,1967,193458,50.39283,29.33289,6438,6343,77,105,-23,45008,136,9b*1313 _$$$$SP9UOB,1968,193517,50.39188,29.33835,6460,6343,76,105,-23,45007,136,9b*8795 _$$$$SP9UOB,1969,193535,50.39097,29.34355,6475,6352,76,104,-23,44951,136,9b*B919 _$$$$SP9UOB,1970,193554,50.
[19:37] <daveake> mfa298 Yes but far too sensible
[19:37] <ibanezmatt13_> woo: people look: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3bs6dsmlsmywbc/Video%2020-10-2013%2019%2057%2020.mov
[19:37] <ibanezmatt13_> chrisstubbs: ^
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[19:37] <chrisstubbs> Nice :D
[19:38] <chrisstubbs> Whats that other arduino doing?
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[19:38] <ibanezmatt13_> power
[19:38] <ibanezmatt13_> I've not got a power circuit on it yet
[19:38] <fsphil> ar ar ar
[19:38] <mfa298> ibanezmatt13_: next you'll need to make an optical rtty decoder
[19:39] <fsphil> those are cool
[19:39] <chrisstubbs> Ah yes of course the programmer wont power it. Nice move away from skydrive too btw
[19:39] <ibanezmatt13_> well, my DB is full
[19:39] <Upu> uploaded RS010
[19:39] <ibanezmatt13_> I had to delete stuff for that vid :)
[19:39] <fsphil> so it's rising again
[19:39] <fsphil> neat
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[19:40] <ibanezmatt13_> I must say, the NORB 3 board looks pretty awesome in black
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[19:40] <ibanezmatt13_> brb
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[19:41] <Upu> hey Tom :)
[19:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> evening :-)
[19:42] Action: Upu points at RS010
[19:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> PICO was found ;-)
[19:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: yeah! i saw :-)
[19:42] <tjanos> Tom, is it realy happened?
[19:42] <SP9UOB-Tom> tjanos: :-))) i ho[pe so :-)
[19:42] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,1978,193902,50.38098,29.40330,6562,6441,75,105,-24,44402,136,9b*66BE _$$$$SP9UOB,1979,193920,50.38012,29.40853,6555,6442,75,106,-24,44393,136,9b*C125 _$$$$SP9UOB,1980,193939,50.37923,29.41404,6569,6453,76,103,-24,44326,136,9b*F4C9 _$$$$SP9UOB,1981,193958,50.37839,29.41958,6581,6453,77,102,-24,44327,136,9b*2C30 _$$$$SP9UOB,1982,194017,50.37756,29.42511,6577,6463,77,103,-24,44263,137,9b*72BF __B,1983,194126,50.37443,29
[19:42] <tjanos> My firend at Kiev didnot answered me.... sry.
[19:43] <Upu> I'm manually uploading them atm
[19:43] <SP9UOB-Tom> RS010: wow, where receiver is located ?
[19:44] <fsphil> you need dl-fldigi RS010 :)
[19:44] <SP9UOB-Tom> so it was ice :-)
[19:44] <RS010> pcheimue RadioKoteg pchez Kieva imne vydae po skaipu
[19:44] <fsphil> http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi
[19:45] <SP9UOB-Tom> http://www.ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide:russian
[19:46] <tjanos> Its really a great, and it seems, the aku is in good conditiion
[19:47] <SP9UOB-Tom> tjanos: this is lithium battery
[19:47] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,1995,194547,50.36306,29.52054,660<,6496,76,104,-25,44061,136,9b*02B0 _$$$$%A9uNxV1996,194553,50.36280,29.52224,6613,6494,74,104,-25,44071,136,9b*F580 _$$$$SP9UOB,1997,194612,50.36194,29.52767,6619,6502,74,102,-25,44022,134,9b*DBB5
[19:47] <tweetBot> @NORB_HAB: NORB 3 is transmitting! Watch here: https://t.co/R4OLU92O3a #hab #ukhas #norb
[19:48] <Upu> thats a good sound ibanezmatt13_
[19:48] <ibanezmatt13_> b-e-a-utiful sound
[19:48] <SP9UOB-Tom> tjanos: it should be running more than 50 hours
[19:49] <tjanos> Ok, hope it will survive the night...
[19:49] <SP9UOB-Tom> @-25 deg
[19:49] <RS010> $$$$SP9UOB,1998,194630,50.36120,29.53281,6606,6505,74,103,-25,44005,136,9b*F7F3 _$$$$SP9UOB,1999,194649,50.36035,29.53820,6610,6513,75,103,-26,43958,134,9b*D1D8 _$$$$SP9UOB,2000,194707,50.35957,29.54338,6622,6511,75,103,-25,43973,136,9b*0A01 _$$$$SP9UOB,2001,194726,50.35875,29.54885,6616,6513,75,103,-25,43957,136,9b*70FD
[19:50] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2002,194745,50.35792,29.55429,6624,6512,74,103,-25,43962,136,9b*7007 _$$$$SP9UOB,2003,194803,50.35717,29.55942,6622,6515,75,102,-25,43946,136,9b*FB79 _$$$$SP9UOB,2004,194822,50.35632,29.56484,6631,6521,74,103,-25,43909,136,9b*FC3D _$$$$SP9UOB,2005,194840,50.35556,29.57000,6629,6517,74,104,-25,43933,136,9b*3F86
[19:50] <DL1SGP> lovely
[19:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> tjanos: he is singing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0GpEH1rBRs
[19:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> AWESOME :-)
[19:50] <Upu> I'm only uploading the most recent ones
[19:51] <Upu> and I'm going afk shortly
[19:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> RS010: could You install dl0-fldigi ?
[19:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: radioKoteg is uploading - i thing
[19:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> Upu: radioKoteg is uploading - i think
[19:52] <Upu> yes they are
[19:52] <Upu> cool :)
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[19:53] <Upu> right i'm off to watch TV then :)
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[19:53] <DL1SGP> enjoy TV Upu
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[19:59] <RS010> _$$$$SP_UOB,2027,195644,50.33595,29.70856,65;1,6479,75,102,-26,44166,134,9b*754D _$$$$SP9UOB,2028,195703,50.33511,29.71403,6601,6479,75,103,-26,44167,134,9b*990E _$$$$SP9UOB,2029,195'_G];l.33438,29.71913,6605,6487,75,102,-26,44114,136,9b*25B4
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[20:02] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2041,200143,50.32394,29.79414,6630,6514,76,101,-26,43950,136,9b*C8BD
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[20:06] <DL1SGP> Tom looks lieke squirrel-atc just instructed it to take another flight-level for passage above area it is in now :)
[20:06] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2048,200431,50.31765,29.84325,6634,6525,76,101,-26,43887,136,9b*A994 _$$$$SP9UOB,2049,200450,50.31695,29.84882,6628,6529,76,101,-26,43861,136,9b*68DA _$$$$SP9UOB,2050,200509,50.31622,29.85436,6628,6522,77,102,-26,43903,134,9b*B130 _$$$$SP9UOB,2051,200528,50.31548,29.86000,6629,6522,76,100,-26,43900,136,9b*5832 _$$$$SP9UOB,2052,200547,50.31479,29.86558,6626,6524,77,100,-26,43892,136,9b*FA00
[20:07] <SP9UOB-Tom> RS010: pse install dl-fldigi and use vitrual audio cable or something similar :-)
[20:08] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: ;-)
[20:08] <SP9UOB-Tom> DL1SGP: im suspecting ice
[20:08] <DL1SGP> else I might be tempted to replay such packets locally
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[20:08] <DL1SGP> yes looks like it. flying squirrels used the defrost spray :)
[20:09] <fsphil> we need to control these squirrels
[20:09] <fsphil> they're nuts
[20:09] <DL1SGP> they are and like nuts
[20:10] <DL1SGP> we had a squirrel in the garden earlier today
[20:10] <fsphil> if you seen it, it wasn't a ninja
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[20:11] <DL1SGP> they are not sneaky around their training centre :D
[20:11] <fsphil> http://www.sandyrooney.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Ninja-Squirrel.jpg
[20:11] <fsphil> the person who took this picture was never seen again
[20:12] <RS010> this reception is RadioKoteg station near Kiev
[20:13] <DL1SGP> RS010: do you have the ability to stream, if your dl-fldigi does not work we could hook up with your stream and also decode locally to get the data uploaded
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[20:19] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2085,201755,50.28605,30.08152,6589,6473,77,102,-26,44200,136,9b*4147
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[20:30] <chrisstubbs> RS010 Do you have a problem with dl-fldigi?
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[20:43] <Willdude123> Hi
[20:43] <DL1SGP> hi Willdude123
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[20:46] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2158,204421,50.21672,30.55016,6594,6497,76,103,-27,44053,134,9b*D094 _$$$$SP9UOB,2159,204440,50.21585,30.55570,6601,6497,77,103,-27,44058,131,9b*A08F _$$$$SP9UOB,2160,204458,50.21501,30.56101,6601,6494,78,102,-26,44076,132,9b*BA1C _$$$$SP9UOB,2161,204517,50.21414,30.56660,6596,6486,77,104,-26,44122,132,9b*881D
[20:48] <chrisstubbs> I will attempt to upload that
[20:48] <DL1SGP> chris I am sending it in as far as it works :) just a tiny test
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[20:49] <DL1SGP> nah does not look happy feel free to upload
[20:49] <chrisstubbs> Okay, I was just going to encode it and play it back into fldigi :P
[20:49] <DL1SGP> that is what I am doing
[20:49] <chrisstubbs> Oh is it invalid?
[20:49] <DL1SGP> got last package through
[20:49] <DL1SGP> no but even playing back remotely has downsides :)
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[20:52] <DL1SGP> I am unsure if there is not anther issue, RS010 was uploading fine earlier, and even the last green I sent in is not showing on snus, checking against db
[20:52] <DL1SGP> looks like the idiot spam f*cked it up
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[20:52] <DL1SGP> showing an code 500 error in the csv
[20:53] <DL1SGP> pretty much same issue as ibanezmatt13 had to fight with earlier
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[20:54] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2180,205224,50.19352,30.69188,6518,6406,77,103,-26,44614,136,9b*2111 _$$$$SP9UOB,2181,205243,50.19259,30.69742,6519,6412,78,104,-26,44579,134,9b*6EF8 _$$$$SP9UOB,2182,205301,50.19170,30.70264,6529,6417,77,104,-26,44550,136,9b*AE3D _$$$$SP9UOB,2183,205320,50.19080,30.70819,6533,6428,77,104,-26,44482,134,9b*6733 _$$$$SP9UOB,2184,205338,50.18989,30.71340,6541,6435,77,104,-26,44439,134,9b*9E35
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[20:59] <Willdude123> Just listening to a live version of Paradise by the dashboard light , there's someone in the background answering yes to all the questions
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[21:00] <DL1SGP> removing the receiver callsign from data export helps, and gladly I can see that the data start at 20:08 partially has made it. however, the 20:53 update us not shown on snus.
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[21:00] <DL1SGP> good to know that data is there though
[21:00] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[21:01] <DL1SGP> Guten spaeten Abend Lunar_Lander
[21:01] <Lunar_Lander> danke
[21:01] <chrisstubbs> logtail says the 20:58 was saved
[21:01] <DL1SGP> yes, that's what I am happy about chrisstubbs
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[21:05] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2212,210336,50.15898,30.88748,6508,6418,77,105,-26,44542,134,9b*3E29
[21:06] <DL1SGP> thank you RS010
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[21:07] <chrisstubbs> once again, logtail said it saved but nothing on spacenear
[21:07] <Guest5000> hi guy's
[21:08] <DL1SGP> hi Guest5000
[21:09] <Guest5000> is it something interesting here now ?
[21:09] <eroomde_> there is nor guy here, nor his possessions
[21:09] <eroomde_> no*
[21:09] <DL1SGP> heh eroomde :)
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[21:12] <chrisstubbs> RS010 seems to be uploading again :)
[21:12] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2233,211123,50.13272,31.02295,6435,6329,76,107,-26,45093,134,9b*B885 _$$$$SP9UOB,2234,211142,50.13167,31.02829,6440,6329,75,106,-26,45093,134,9b*54E8
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[21:16] <RS010> _$$$$S_9UNB,2242,211449,50.12138,31.08099,6511,6000,76,108,-25,44655,136,9b*A778 _$$$$SP9UOB,2243,211507,50.12039,31.08595,6518,6416,74,107,-26,44553,134,9b*D326 _$$$$SP9UOB,2244,211526,50.11937,31.09125,6533,6420,76,107,-26,44531,134,9b*1E52
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[21:19] <RS010> __$$$$SP9UOB,2253,211850,50.10798,31.14824,6554,6443,75,107,-26,44384,134,9b*53D
[21:21] <chrisstubbs> RS010 what is your callsign set to in DL-FLDIGI
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[21:27] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2270,212445,50.08777,31.24812,6470,6362,75,106,-26,44890,134
[21:28] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2278,212713,50.07957,31.29006,6508,6393,76,107,-26,44697,134,9b*9FBF
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[21:30] <WillTablet> RS010: please use a pastebin
[21:31] <chrisstubbs> Right uploaded that last one. RS010 can I help you set up dl-fldigi so this is uploaded automaticaly
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[21:34] <RS010> thank you but it works for me it is at the receiving station in Kiev - RadioKoteg have problems
[21:35] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2291,213153,50.06323,31.36986,6459,6345,77,107,-26,44994,132,9b*D0E4 _$$$$SP9UOB,2292,213212,50.06216,31.37526,6450,6344,78,108,-26,45001,134,9b*F5B6 _$$$$SP9UOB,2293,213231,50.06097,31.38067,6439,6330,77,108,-26,45089,136,9b*8E5B
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[21:35] <RS010> more telemetry will not.
[21:37] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2303,213616,50.04772,31.44432,6427,6321,7G]v07,-25,45141,134,9b*34BF _$$$$SP9UOB,2304,213634,50.04670,31.44933,6432,6326,75,105,-25,45113,134,9b*E7E6
[21:37] <SQ5NWI> RS010: Could you ask them in Kiev to try also with SQ9ATC balloon. Last heard on about 437.649 and can be in their range also. If they could try even for a while...
[21:38] <DL1SGP> thank you for effort RS010, so you are not the station in Kiev but jsut uploading the telemetry he is sending to you?
[21:40] <RS010> Yes it takes RadioKoteg telemetry and telemetry sends me on Skype
[21:41] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[21:41] <eroomde_> does he know about dl-fldigi?
[21:43] <RS010> YES she had installed but for some reason does not send spots
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[21:44] <chrisstubbs> RS010 you need to make sure you have your coordinates set in decimal degrees and your callsign must be less than 10 chars
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[21:45] <chrisstubbs> "RadioKoteg" may well be rejected becuase of that
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[21:46] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2326,214438,50.01920,31.58205,6499,6385,73,106,-25,44747,131,9b*7135 _$$$$SP9UOB,2327,214457,50.01812,31.58723,6498,6393,73,106,-26,44698,136,9b*4119
[21:48] <SQ5NWI> RS010: Will you try with SQ9ATC? I have to leave for a sleep. :-( Would be glad to know if any chance to track also this balloon at least for a while...
[21:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> chrisstubbs, there is a RadioKoteg on the map ?
[21:49] <chrisstubbs> It was rejecting mine until I changed my call back to 6 chars
[21:49] <chrisstubbs> 5, need to learn to count
[21:49] <DL1SGP> time for bed here as well, good luck everyone and have a good start of the week
[21:50] <RS010> SQ9ATC tried to hear, but there is nothing, quietly
[21:51] <RS010> there is a RadioKoteg on the map ? YES
[21:51] <RS010> _$$$$SP9UOB,2337,214840,50.00535,31.64877,6509,6398,77,108,-26,44667,134,9b*210A
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[21:54] <SQ5NWI> RS010: Thank you very much and pass my thanks to RadioKoteg. Hwo did you find her? ;-)
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[21:58] <RS010> Tomorrow will listen RN3ZF, I talked to him on Skype
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[22:02] <SQ5NWI> SQ9ATC was decreasing altitude so possibly it is down or much lower. SP9UOB seems to fligh on stable altitude, so it can reach Russia. Still curious how did you find someone in Kiev ;-).
[22:03] <SQ5NWI> Now is late enough to say bye to all. Good night! PC stays turned on, but I will be turned off. ;-)
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[22:03] <mfa298> WillTablet: for this pastebin probably isn't the right solution and posting the strings in IRC is the right thing to do.
[22:04] <WillTablet> Oh right, didn't fully get the context of it
[22:04] <mfa298> there is a great skill in looking to see what's happening and not just telling people they are wrong (as you often seem to do)
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[22:31] <RadioKoteg> _$$$$SP9UOB,242 ,221847,49.89742,32.14153,6400,6297,74,110,-25,45292,137,9b*BA47
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[23:25] <wb8elk> Apparently my foil floater developed a small leak as it was preparing to float during peak solar heating....it tried to float then developed leaked enough helium to descend almost at the same rate as I had ascended. It has landed by now NE of Dalton, GA or perhaps as far as Murphy, NC
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> hi wb8elk
[23:25] <wb8elk> Last copy that I had via CW was at 4200 meters and going down
[23:25] <wb8elk> It was a perfect day here so I tried a trans-Atlantic foil balloon
[23:26] <wb8elk> if it had floated it would've crossed the Atlantic in 30 hours.
[23:28] <wb8elk> There is another balloon launched by AB3MC from Maryland in another trans-Atlantic attempt.
[23:31] <adamgreig> aww, bad luck
[23:31] <adamgreig> a trans-a floater would be super
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[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> it's interesting btw
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> until last year, everyone was after the highest altitude
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> and then leo begain the B-X series
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> *began
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> and now everyone tries PICO flights :)
[23:36] <arko> wb8elk: nice!
[23:37] <arko> wb8elk: if i launch a floating pico from Los Angeles and if we can find someone in Albuquerque we might be able to track it the whole way
[23:37] <arko> winds dont usually go east/west sadly
[23:38] Action: arko really wants a 433mhz band network in the united states
[23:38] <adamgreig> but you have an aprs band network :P
[23:38] <arko> but it sucks
[23:38] <arko> no room for experimenting either
[23:38] <arko> you cant try different encoding
[23:38] <arko> lots of interference in some places
[23:39] <arko> and no cool community :)
[23:39] <adamgreig> you raise several good points :P
[23:40] <arko> im willing to buy people a usb rtl and preamp/filter if they are willing to do tracking
[23:40] <arko> *applies within the united states :)
[23:41] <blakangel> 19:38 < adamgreig> but you have an aprs band network :P
[23:41] <blakangel> 19:38 < arko> but it sucks
[23:41] <blakangel> 19:38 < arko> no room for experimenting either
[23:41] <blakangel> 19:38 < arko> you cant try different encoding
[23:41] <blakangel> 19:39 < arko> lots of interference in some places
[23:41] <blakangel> 19:39 < arko> and no cool community :)
[23:41] <adamgreig> shame the rpi can't quite manage it yet
[23:41] <blakangel> 19:39 < adamgreig> you raise several good points :P
[23:41] <blakangel> 19:40 < arko> im willing to buy people a usb rtl and preamp/filter if they are willing to do tracking
[23:41] <adamgreig> or that'd be a very cute bundle
[23:41] <blakangel> woops
[23:41] <blakangel> lol
[23:41] <blakangel> arko
[23:41] <blakangel> did you get the 433mhz preamp
[23:41] <arko> hey blakangel
[23:41] <blakangel> and saw filter
[23:41] <arko> yes i did
[23:41] <arko> adamgreig: yeah seriously
[23:41] <blakangel> have you tried it out
[23:41] <arko> yes, it's fantastic
[23:41] <arko> works great
[23:42] <arko> especially nice not seeing the radio stations in every band
[23:42] <arko> 106.7 KROQ was everywhere
[23:42] <arko> 434.50mhz even
[23:42] <blakangel> heh
[23:43] <blakangel> thats pretty bad
[23:43] <arko> yeah, the front end is terrible
[23:43] <arko> my hackrf is much nicer though
[23:43] <arko> but not enough for low power tracking
[23:44] <arko> so hackrf+preamp/filter is great
[23:45] <arko> if we could get tracking stations in Pheonix, Albuquerque, Dallas, Denver, St. Louis
[23:45] <arko> the east coast and texas have people
[23:45] <arko> so we may get some good coverage
[23:46] <arko> adamgreig: does the rpi really not handle it?
[23:46] Action: arko looks at his rpi thats not doing anything
[23:48] <adamgreig> it could maybe
[23:48] <adamgreig> like I think in theory it should be able
[23:48] <adamgreig> but dl-fldigi taxes it
[23:48] <arko> darn
[23:48] <adamgreig> drop the dl-fldigi intensive GUI
[23:48] <arko> im gonna try it now
[23:48] <arko> heh
[23:48] <arko> yeah
[23:48] <adamgreig> and make a python and C with web interface
[23:48] <adamgreig> which only uses SDRs
[23:48] <adamgreig> talks to them direct, no stupid virtual audio cable shit
[23:49] <adamgreig> and the web interface can just let you enter a freq and mode, or pick a balloon from habitat and tune automatically etc
[23:49] <qyx_> you can use gnuradio for that
[23:49] <qyx_> it is python/c++ lib for that
[23:50] <qyx_> already can demoodulate fsk and supports multiple frontends
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[23:51] <adamgreig> maybe
[23:51] <adamgreig> every time I try to not use gnuradio I seem to regret it for a while, but every time I try to use gnuradio I regret it more
[23:52] <adamgreig> it's powerful, but it's also huge and a bit bloated and drivers make me sad and it's a pain to integrate with bits and I'm not convinced it's as cpu efficient as it could be
[23:52] <adamgreig> so idk
[23:52] <qyx_> hh
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[23:59] <wb8elk> AK4RP...are you in Nashville?
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