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[01:45] <DL7AD> good evening if somebody there.
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[02:46] <KT5TK> Hi DL7AD
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[03:12] <DL7AD> hiho :D
[03:12] <DL7AD> KT5TK
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[03:38] <heathkid> hello everyone
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[03:54] <DL7AD> hi
[03:54] <arko> helloo
[04:23] <heathkid> hello
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[05:30] <G4MYS_Andy> Good morning all
[05:31] <arko> good morning england
[05:32] <arko> rather united kingdom since we have some ni people
[05:33] <daveake> <edutcation_mode> UK > GB > England
[05:33] <daveake> <spelling_mode> ..... :)
[05:33] <daveake> UK = GB + NI
[05:33] <arko> oh duh
[05:33] <daveake> GB = England + Wales + Scotland
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[05:33] <arko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
[05:34] <arko> i watched that
[05:34] <arko> just remembered it wrong :P
[05:34] <daveake> :)
[05:34] <arko> lets just make this easy
[05:34] <arko> good morning crown
[05:34] <arko> or whatever
[05:35] <arko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrObZ_HZZUc
[05:35] <arko> after watching that i want to visit the city of london
[05:35] <daveake> It's very true :)
[05:36] <daveake> "The Ireland of Ireland ..." lol
[05:36] <arko> :P
[05:36] <arko> this guys channel is awesome
[05:36] <arko> i love geography
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[05:40] <daveake> Right after watching and learning I need a nice cup of tea :)
[05:40] <arko> woo!
[05:40] <arko> launching today?
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[05:47] <daveake> Yes, this thing for the register
[05:54] <arko> ah yeah, just wondering if the weather was good blah blah
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[05:58] <daveake> Yes very
[05:58] <daveake> Nice predictions
[05:59] <daveake> Not much wind
[05:59] <daveake> Clear skies
[05:59] <daveake> Hot though
[05:59] <daveake> ^^ relative to usual
[06:02] <arko> hah
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[06:34] <G0TDJ_Steve> Good Morning Folks
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[06:40] <G0TDJ_Steve> Hey daveake
[06:40] <G0TDJ_Steve> I can't be around today to track LOHAN but I hope it all goes well.
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[06:41] <daveake> Oh well, should be enough trackers anyway at a weekend
[06:41] <daveake> We're feeling coifent <---- bad sign
[06:41] <daveake> confident
[06:41] <daveake> can't even type
[06:41] <eroomde> predicted direction?
[06:41] <G0TDJ_Steve> Sadly I can't get out of the engagement. Looks like the prediction shows it coming my way too
[06:42] <daveake> Andover-ish
[06:42] <daveake> Not checked yet today
[06:43] <daveake> 2 payloads, with separation, so that should be fun
[06:43] <G0TDJ_Steve> Prediction shows line South over me and on to Caen in Framce
[06:43] <daveake> We have 2 radio chase cars plus 1/2 other cars and we'll split up
[06:43] <daveake> er no this ain't a floater
[06:43] <daveake> France isn't on the menu!
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[06:45] <daveake> I'm expecting somewhere near Amesbury
[06:45] <daveake> burst alt 35km + hwoyee random variable
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[06:47] <G0TDJ_Steve> I have a lot to learn daveake :-)
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[06:49] <daveake> Steve said to me "I'm still learning after 100 flights"
[06:50] <daveake> ^ Steve Randall (obviously!)
[06:50] <daveake> Anyway, prediction: http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=2c5dc68471d27ad2d04e14efb1ea60f29c2b5d66
[06:50] <G0TDJ_Steve> Which Steve is that daveake ?
[06:50] <daveake> <daveake> ^ Steve Randall (obviously!)
[06:50] <daveake> aka rocketboy
[06:50] <daveake> aka the guy behind almost all of HAB on TV
[06:50] <G0TDJ_Steve> Oh right
[06:51] <G0TDJ_Steve> Doh! I just realised, the Tracker is showing a test!
[06:52] <daveake> Reload it - I cleared that
[06:52] <G0TDJ_Steve> LOHAN isn't on yet
[06:52] <daveake> Should be one of ours on in a mo
[06:52] <G0TDJ_Steve> Got it :D
[06:52] <G0TDJ_Steve> SPEARS
[06:54] <G0TDJ_Steve> How long are SPEARS and LOHAN expected to be up?
[06:54] <daveake> 111 mins according to the calculator
[06:55] <daveake> then maybe 35 mins to land
[06:55] <daveake> There's a separation at 32km so one payload (CHAV/SHUTIT) will fall first
[06:55] <daveake> s/will/should/
[06:55] <G0TDJ_Steve> :-) Fingers crossed &
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[06:57] <G0TDJ_Steve> Oh well, I have to go now daveake What's the HAB equivalent of 'Break a leg'? Snap a string? :-) Speak to you later 73
[06:57] <jcoxon> Morning
[06:57] <daveake> Don't ever mention "snap a string" in my presence .. :p
[06:57] <daveake> Morning
[06:57] <G0TDJ_Steve> :P
[06:57] <G0TDJ_Steve> Seeya!
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[06:58] <daveake> That was a £90 balloon + £40 of gas mistake
[07:00] <eroomde> i lost a 3kg balloon with 20kg of lift once
[07:00] <daveake> ouch
[07:00] <eroomde> £300 + £300
[07:00] <daveake> ouch ^2
[07:01] <jcoxon> Hey eroomde
[07:01] <eroomde> morantron j
[07:02] <eroomde> how's it going?
[07:03] <jcoxon> Good thanks
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[07:04] <jcoxon> What happened to b5 in the end
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[07:04] <Darkside> they blew it up
[07:04] <Darkside> it was very sad
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[07:04] <Darkside> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znNciln7qwY
[07:04] <jcoxon> on mobile so couldnt load the map
[07:05] <jcoxon> Haha
[07:05] <eroomde> are you at work at the mo?
[07:05] <jcoxon> Or
[07:06] <jcoxon> In whitstable for the weekend
[07:06] <jcoxon> a bit of sunshine
[07:06] <Darkside> :<
[07:06] <Darkside> tearing up now
[07:06] <Darkside> babylon 5 was a good series
[07:06] <Darkside> a very good series
[07:06] <jcoxon> what about yrsterdays balloon...
[07:06] <Darkside> floating over france i think
[07:07] <Darkside> i think the battery died over france
[07:07] <jcoxon> I see
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[07:08] <ibanezmatt13> Good morning
[07:09] <eroomde> oh dear Darkside
[07:09] <craag_> some turbulence appeared to disconnect the solar panel
[07:09] <Darkside> now you want to watch B5 again? :P
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[07:11] <daveake> Today's flight is headed in the general direction of Amesbury. How many HAB points do we get for landing it inside Stonehenge?
[07:12] <Darkside> id be more concerned about how much you'd get fined for doing that
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[07:12] <daveake> Yeah the National Trust (or is it English Heritage?) are a funny lot
[07:12] <eroomde> daveake: 1000
[07:12] <eroomde> and a bottle of fizz at the conference
[07:13] <daveake> I'll take that :)
[07:13] <eroomde> because that would qualify for my guided landing proce
[07:13] <eroomde> prive*
[07:13] <eroomde> prize*
[07:13] <daveake> Well sadly it isn't guided. Not by mortals anyway
[07:14] <daveake> It's be a step up from landing in a field used for crop circles, next to a radio dish
[07:14] <daveake> It'd
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[07:15] <arko> gentlemen, im ready for england https://twitter.com/arkorobotics/status/355947501003632640
[07:15] <daveake> And Darkside, not my flight I don't care if Lester gets billed :)
[07:16] <arko> daveake: we got a bunch of drunk people here and have the video stream on the projector
[07:16] <Darkside> arko: hahaha
[07:17] <craag_> lol arko
[07:17] <arko> note the whiskey
[07:17] <arko> thats right
[07:17] <craag_> please do!
[07:17] <arko> I'm bringing that
[07:17] <arko> i can't wait
[07:18] <arko> might even give my talk with that on
[07:18] <eroomde> please where one of those things that aren't ties
[07:18] <eroomde> but that go round your neck
[07:18] <eroomde> with the buckle and 2 bits of string
[07:19] <arko> done
[07:19] <Ferran> hi all
[07:19] <arko> im going to give the talk with a texas accent too
[07:19] <arko> screw it
[07:19] <arko> give me some scotch
[07:19] <eroomde> what are those called arko?
[07:19] <arko> i'll do t
[07:19] <arko> it
[07:20] <arko> belt buckles
[07:20] <eroomde> lol
[07:20] <eroomde> no
[07:20] <eroomde> i mean the neck wear
[07:20] <arko> oh
[07:20] <arko> no idea
[07:20] <eroomde> bolo tie
[07:20] <eroomde> says wikipedia
[07:20] <arko> oh
[07:20] <arko> texas friend just said that too
[07:20] <arko> said shoestring
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[08:06] <Maxell> Good job, wireless headphones http://i.imgur.com/3FupKNO.png
[08:07] <eroomde> nice
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[08:08] <Maxell> Like, it's jammed there. Why would you even want to transmit wide fm there?
[08:09] <Darkside> haha, oh wow
[08:09] <Darkside> thats pretty bad
[08:10] <arko> lol
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[08:13] <Maxell> And no, it's not a strong transmitter with splatters... Habamp is filtering the fm broadcast band very nicely
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[08:13] <arko> woah i see video
[08:14] <Maxell> It sounds pretty bad with this QRM... http://i.imgur.com/MIpfORq.png
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[08:14] <Upu_M0UPU> morning
[08:15] <arko> \o/ morning
[08:15] <Upu_M0UPU> stream up for a few mins
[08:15] <Upu_M0UPU> welcome to middle england
[08:15] <arko> wow
[08:15] <Upu_M0UPU> tour :)
[08:16] <arko> that's a nice place
[08:16] <arko> green
[08:16] <arko> where's the steering wheel?
[08:16] <arko> oh right
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[08:16] <gonzo__> no audio?
[08:16] <arko> logo!
[08:16] <arko> haha
[08:16] <arko> :) this is cool
[08:16] <Darkside> wat
[08:16] <Darkside> missed that
[08:16] <Darkside> wheres the logo
[08:17] <arko> side window
[08:17] <arko> very nice touch
[08:17] <Upu_M0UPU> in back window
[08:17] <Upu_M0UPU> 1 sec
[08:17] <Darkside> hahahhaa
[08:17] <Darkside> oh wow
[08:17] <Darkside> niiiiice
[08:17] <arko> nice
[08:17] <Darkside> we need those here
[08:17] <Darkside> Upu_M0UPU: can you get a decent pic of that for me
[08:17] <Darkside> that i can show to people around here
[08:17] <arko> show us irc
[08:17] <arko> :P
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[08:17] <arko> upu is now attempting to drive from the other side
[08:18] <arko> OH NO, airbags!
[08:18] <Upu_M0UPU> was trying to get temp
[08:18] <Upu_M0UPU> hot
[08:18] <arko> :)
[08:18] <LAGMonkey> but warm is good
[08:18] <arko> hahaha
[08:18] <Darkside> lol
[08:18] <Darkside> sunblock
[08:18] <arko> NASA!!
[08:18] <Darkside> you guys dont normally nd that do you
[08:18] <Darkside> we almost ALWAYS need it
[08:18] <x-f> "sun baby" :)
[08:19] Action: arko throws signs to represent
[08:19] <Darkside> so this is kind of like a simulation of an australian launch
[08:19] <LAGMonkey> sponsership from nivea?
[08:19] <arko> Darkside: and mohave!
[08:19] <Upu_M0UPU> Daves neigbours probably have no idea
[08:19] <Upu_M0UPU> what I'm doing
[08:19] <gonzo__> the dorset wilds probably don't compare to the bush!
[08:19] <arko> "honey look outside, this crazy man is running around a car and showing things to a camera"
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[08:20] <arko> Upu_M0UPU: do a dance
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[08:20] <LAGMonkey> "honey" is that the man from TV Licensing?
[08:20] <Upu_M0UPU> no Arko
[08:20] <arko> :(
[08:20] <arko> ok
[08:20] <Upu_M0UPU> I'm already in shorts
[08:20] <Upu_M0UPU> is this not enough ?
[08:20] <arko> haha
[08:21] <arko> fair enough i guess
[08:21] <Upu_M0UPU> right afk a few
[08:21] <arko> i only have shorts
[08:21] <arko> 1 pair of pants, but thats for a suit
[08:21] <Maxell> http://i.imgur.com/7Dqp7Hj.png music gone, device turned off http://i.imgur.com/0miD0sc.png
[08:22] <arko> wow, england is pretty
[08:22] <arko> lots of brick i seems
[08:22] <eroomde> yes
[08:22] <arko> too bad california has lame laws/reg on that
[08:22] <Gorthag> It's green cuz it rains a LOT!
[08:22] <eroomde> bricks are the default here
[08:22] <arko> nice
[08:22] <LAGMonkey> at least it isnt raining for todays launch
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[08:23] <arko> cat!
[08:23] <arko> nyan
[08:23] <GreatWhiteNorth> Holy Cables batman
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[08:23] <arko> wow
[08:24] <arko> that looks murica heavy already
[08:24] <arko> lol dave
[08:25] <arko> looks beautiful outside
[08:26] <eroomde> link to feed?
[08:26] <arko> http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?ch=3&id=1010
[08:26] <LAGMonkey> i wonder when the second feed will go live
[08:26] <GreatWhiteNorth> You guys have clearer skies than we do and we're in Cyprus.
[08:26] <eroomde> cam attached to head?
[08:26] <eroomde> wow
[08:26] <arko> must be
[08:26] <Upu_M0UPU> in mouth :)
[08:27] <LAGMonkey> more product placement
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[08:27] <arko> or upu has it in his mouth
[08:27] <arko> hah
[08:27] <arko> this is bbq weather
[08:27] <GreatWhiteNorth> BBQ and booze weather you mean.
[08:27] <arko> good correction
[08:28] <GreatWhiteNorth> :P
[08:28] <Herman-PB0AHX> gooooooooood morning to all
[08:28] <eroomde> nice upu
[08:28] <arko> PINK TAPE!
[08:28] <arko> Upink
[08:28] <eroomde> that's the hydrogen filling guy
[08:29] <arko> hahahaha
[08:29] <arko> smoking dude
[08:29] <arko> cigarette in mouth and using both hands to tie it off
[08:30] <eroomde> pilot lot to stop hydrogen buildup
[08:30] <eroomde> light*
[08:30] <arko> seems legit
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[08:30] <arko> are all houses like this?
[08:30] <arko> that a v nice looking house
[08:31] <eroomde> lots are
[08:31] <arko> wow
[08:31] <eroomde> less so in cities obv
[08:31] <arko> im so use to ugly cookie cutter
[08:31] <arko> yeah
[08:31] <arko> that makes sense
[08:31] <GreatWhiteNorth> My husband has this whole chase scene up on our 42' inch. Both cam feeds, the map, the whole works. I think someone might be excited.
[08:31] <arko> :)
[08:31] <Upu_M0UPU> lol
[08:31] <craag_> haha
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[08:32] <GreatWhiteNorth> I just got told off :P
[08:32] <LAGMonkey> damm right you did...
[08:32] <eroomde> hello husband
[08:32] <LAGMonkey> yo!
[08:33] <GreatWhiteNorth> ho! and where's the rum?
[08:33] <arko> i was telling daveake that we had it on our project, but everyone got too drunk and fell asleep, so now its just me and the laptop
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[08:33] <arko> GreatWhiteNorth: rums here!
[08:33] <arko> and whiskey
[08:33] <Babs> Trying to do this without broadband sucks
[08:33] <GreatWhiteNorth> Share damn it.
[08:33] <eroomde> where are you babs?
[08:33] <arko> Babs dialup?
[08:33] <LAGMonkey> my condelences Babs
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[08:33] <Babs> I feel like a 20th century Helen Keller
[08:33] <GreatWhiteNorth> Tell us about it Babs, we're lucky to see 2meg on a good day.
[08:33] <arko> GreatWhiteNorth: travel to the otherside of the world
[08:33] <arko> babs hahaha
[08:34] <Babs> Eroomde - in new house, moved on Monday
[08:34] <eroomde> ah right
[08:34] <eroomde> nice
[08:34] <Babs> I haven't even got any coax handy to hook up the TV
[08:34] <eroomde> london still?
[08:35] <GreatWhiteNorth> About to go back to the motherland on monday (Canada), I'll be going from 2meg to 50meg. Was hoping the next event was going to be after that :P Oh wells
[08:35] <arko> nice!
[08:35] <GreatWhiteNorth> Might as well hammer the hell out of my Cypriot connection right?
[08:35] <arko> where in canada?
[08:35] <Babs> Yes, moved from Fulham to Stoke Newington Church Street. Everyone is very media trendy
[08:35] <GreatWhiteNorth> Ontario
[08:35] <arko> nice!
[08:35] <Babs> I haven't seen a non-fixed wheel bike for days
[08:35] <GreatWhiteNorth> haha
[08:35] <arko> i plan to visit Victoria some time soon
[08:35] <arko> :)
[08:36] <GreatWhiteNorth> Supposed to be nice area
[08:36] <arko> Canada seems like a very nice place
[08:36] <GreatWhiteNorth> It's beautiful, outside of Toronto.
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[08:36] <arko> you guys are like america but nice
[08:36] <GreatWhiteNorth> Amurica-lite
[08:36] <arko> thanks for being our hat :)
[08:36] <arko> <:)
[08:37] <Babs> arko, you are coming over for the Conf?
[08:37] <arko> yes!
[08:37] <arko> bought my flight ticket eariler this week
[08:37] <eroomde> yes i have a few friends there and dalston
[08:37] <arko> trip is planned and im excited :)
[08:37] <arko> Babs are you?
[08:37] <arko> im flying half way around the world, you can't have an excuse!
[08:37] <Babs> Cool! Are you bringing over some stuff?
[08:38] <arko> my talk on environmental testing
[08:38] <GreatWhiteNorth> 'some stuff' sounds interesting
[08:38] <arko> and design/analsys and failure
[08:38] <arko> blah blah
[08:38] <Babs> I am going to be there. BABSHAB got deconstructed for the move but made it safely
[08:38] <Babs> Excellent. Will look forward to it.
[08:38] <arko> nice!
[08:38] <arko> i might ship out a pico to ed or something and launch it if i can
[08:38] <arko> that would make me so happy
[08:38] <arko> err
[08:38] <arko> habby
[08:38] <Babs> Eroomde - my cycle commute is now 12 minutes, down from 18
[08:39] <arko> cool, see ya there :)
[08:39] <eroomde> A10 all the way?
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[08:39] <eroomde> my sis is in fulham
[08:39] <Babs> Excellent. Arko, be warned though, our beer exceeds 2% in alcohol content
[08:39] <arko> uhh
[08:39] <eroomde> i do like it but everyone seems to be heading northeast
[08:40] <Babs> And cheese doesn't necessarily have to come in tubes over here ;-)
[08:40] <arko> im use to at least 6% and above
[08:40] <arko> :D
[08:40] <GreatWhiteNorth> It be almost cider time..
[08:40] <eroomde> until the pitter-patter of tiny feet anyway
[08:40] <arko> i love cheese
[08:40] <Upu_M0UPU> should be heading to launch soon
[08:40] <eroomde> then they magically suddenly appear in surrey
[08:40] <Babs> The French are taking over Fulham - is she French?
[08:40] <eroomde> half
[08:40] <eroomde> like me
[08:41] <Babs> The French government are building a lycée in Fulham
[08:41] <GreatWhiteNorth> skyyyy
[08:41] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... LOHAN flight docs still in testing?
[08:41] <eroomde> cool. the transformation into south ken is almost complete
[08:42] <Upu_M0UPU> switching to 3g brb
[08:42] <LAGMonkey> ooooh wireless home connection
[08:42] <GreatWhiteNorth> Not in 3g yet? jealous
[08:43] <arko> Upu_M0UPU: what are you using to stream this?
[08:43] <Babs> That, and the Made In Chelsea lot are taking over
[08:43] Action: LazyLeopard can see the LOHAN docs under "All Payloads" but not in "Active Flights"
[08:43] <GreatWhiteNorth> MIC need to burn in a horrible fire.
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[08:44] <Babs> Arf
[08:44] <arko> ok, time to get a ride home to watch the rest of this
[08:44] <Babs> It is a complete con, none of the MIC lot actually live in chelsea, they are all big fakers
[08:44] <LAGMonkey> ride arko ride like the wind
[08:44] <Upu_M0PU> stream should be back
[08:44] <GreatWhiteNorth> Reality tv a fake? say it ain't soooo
[08:44] <arko> err, let me sober friend ride
[08:45] <arko> Upu it is
[08:45] <Upu_M0PU> super
[08:45] <arko> \o/
[08:45] <LAGMonkey> looks good too
[08:45] <arko> whats estimate launch time?
[08:45] <eroomde> nice callsign Upu_M0PU
[08:45] <Babs> "Scripted Reality" - whadda concept
[08:45] <GreatWhiteNorth> Looks good Upu, really good.
[08:45] <GreatWhiteNorth> No kidden
[08:45] <arko> tminus wise
[08:45] <eroomde> you will jusge poss (prob) but i know a few of them from school
[08:46] <GreatWhiteNorth> You poor soul.
[08:46] <eroomde> so i find MiC particularly unwatcheable
[08:46] <eroomde> although not having a tv anymore makes that less of an issue
[08:46] <Babs> I find it oddly compelling
[08:46] <arko> woah its moving
[08:46] <GreatWhiteNorth> some of my school mates ended up on the national hockey team
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[08:46] <arko> google street view live
[08:46] <eroomde> last time i was freids with francis he was all straightened emo fringe
[08:46] <GreatWhiteNorth> Difference between Canada and the original mother land lol
[08:46] <GreatWhiteNorth> Weee
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[08:47] <arko> wow, shortest drive ever
[08:47] <eroomde> yes it's very easy for dave
[08:48] <Babs> In actually don't mind him, because he gives the impression that he knows its ridiculous
[08:48] <Babs> It's the others who regard it as their career who are more annoying
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[08:48] <Babs> Is there a link to the stream?
[08:48] <arko> http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?ch=3&id=1010
[08:48] <Maxell> http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?ch=3&id=1010
[08:49] <Herman-PB0AHX> which balloon I can follow the best of today from Netherlands ???
[08:49] <craag_> I'll jsut leave this here: https://www.thecraag.com/ukhastv.html :D
[08:49] <LAGMonkey> looks like the same launch site from last time as well
[08:49] <Babs> Thanks guys
[08:49] <arko> i should get home before launch bbl
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[08:49] <LAGMonkey> i hope the gate is open this time
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[08:49] <GreatWhiteNorth> Let's hope it doesn't meet a watery end too.
[08:49] <arko> will there be audio?
[08:50] <GreatWhiteNorth> Husband is off making food so we won't miss anything good once it all kicks off.
[08:50] <eroomde> that is enthusiasm
[08:50] <GreatWhiteNorth> Arko, I hope so. Nieghbour is blaring damn greeky music.
[08:50] <GreatWhiteNorth> Want to blare something back.
[08:51] <Maxell> Herman-PB0AHX: they are all on the same balloon if I remember correctly
[08:51] <Gorthag> Directional speaker & crazy frog on a loop :)
[08:51] <Upu_M0PU> sorry poulled wire out
[08:51] <GreatWhiteNorth> haha
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[08:52] <GreatWhiteNorth> Watching this, drinking a beer and being amused. Easily best way to spend my birthday.
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[08:53] <LAGMonkey> im not sure what happened there. but wife has my sudo commands... sudo get me a sandwich worked!
[08:53] <Gorthag> GreatWhiteNorth: Happy B'Day
[08:54] <GreatWhiteNorth> Cheers ^^ The only day Sudo make me a sandwich and get me a beer, actually works.
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[08:56] <Upu_M0PU> ok
[08:56] <Upu_M0PU> stream up
[08:56] <Upu_M0PU> watch :)
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[08:57] <GreatWhiteNorth> *watcges intently*
[08:57] <GreatWhiteNorth> watches even...
[08:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nothing of Daveake in the flight list this morning for config ?
[08:57] <Upu_M0PU> few mins
[08:58] <LAGMonkey> nice sun shade there
[08:58] <GreatWhiteNorth> stab!
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[08:58] <LAGMonkey> seems to be a bit of a breeze there.
[08:58] <Babs____> *taps screen* - is this thing on?
[08:59] <GreatWhiteNorth> tap,tap.
[08:59] <LAGMonkey> ok 4000
[08:59] <GreatWhiteNorth> Not...Over 9000?
[08:59] <Babs____> 20th century Helen Keller has eyes and ears. God bless iphone personal hotspots.
[08:59] <gonzo__> it's the upu 'show and tell'
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[08:59] <LAGMonkey> special boxes with 2000 writen on them
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[08:59] <GreatWhiteNorth> Iphone? You poor poor poor soul.
[09:00] <eroomde> that payload is more like it
[09:00] <number10> must have a big parachute for that payload
[09:00] <WillDuckworth> yep
[09:01] <LAGMonkey> just need the piolet now
[09:01] <Babs____> GreatWhiteNorth - nothing that you can order a pizza through can be 100% bad
[09:01] <Upu_M0PU> see that ?
[09:01] <LAGMonkey> *pilot
[09:01] <Darkside> US style payload
[09:01] <WillDuckworth> yep ok upu
[09:01] <eroomde> UK style payload
[09:01] <Upu_M0PU> glider
[09:01] <Hix> wondering what you wanted an axe for LAGMonkey
[09:01] <GreatWhiteNorth> Need to make my kindle do that next Babs, then my life is complete.
[09:01] <number10> hope your not using the green umbrella as a parachute
[09:01] <Darkside> mary poppins style
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[09:02] <LAGMonkey> Hix, prob to dig myself a deeper hole
[09:02] <Babs____> I CAN SEE
[09:02] <eroomde> you're a real boy
[09:02] <GreatWhiteNorth> CAN you dig a deeper hole, oh husband of mine?
[09:02] <Babs____> sorry, its very exciting when the last hour has been sent looking at a tiny screen
[09:02] <LAGMonkey> i can dig for britain GWN
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[09:03] <GreatWhiteNorth> Better than lay back and think of England I suppose.
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[09:03] <LAGMonkey> photo time
[09:04] <LAGMonkey> say LOHAN!
[09:04] <GreatWhiteNorth> Say Higgs-bison!
[09:04] <Hix> Shutit
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[09:04] <Maxell> Say highaltitudeballoonsrock
[09:04] <Maxell> ;_;
[09:04] <GreatWhiteNorth> haha
[09:04] <fsphil> I need a hat like that
[09:05] <Babs____> I have the stream going on with the Benny Hill music playing in the background. It works surprisingly well.
[09:06] <Hix> :D
[09:06] <Maxell> Plot twist: they are blasting the tune too.
[09:06] <GreatWhiteNorth> I'm attempting to download a game, while we stream all this to our tv. Not much room in the bandwidth for streaming music.
[09:06] <LAGMonkey> i wonder when the second stream will go live.
[09:07] <number10> Upu_M0PU: I dont see payloads in fldigi
[09:07] <LAGMonkey> case car is up on the map!
[09:07] <arko> \o/ home safe
[09:07] <arko> in time to watch the launch :)
[09:07] <LAGMonkey> well done arko
[09:07] <GreatWhiteNorth> Great success
[09:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not the right one but nevermind!
[09:08] <arko> friends that dont drink are awesome
[09:08] <LAGMonkey> car wash case car?
[09:08] <GreatWhiteNorth> But booze is so fun.
[09:08] <arko> i know
[09:08] <GreatWhiteNorth> And goes well with Lohan
[09:08] <Hix> number10: go to DL Client > refresh flight docs
[09:08] <arko> i tell him, but then again he drives me home, so im fine with his decision
[09:08] <number10> did that hix
[09:09] <Hix> ok
[09:09] <arko> no audio yet?
[09:09] <number10> i'll do it again
[09:09] <LAGMonkey> you have to make up the audio yourself arko
[09:09] <GreatWhiteNorth> That could be dangerous.
[09:09] Action: arko starts playing tupac
[09:09] <GreatWhiteNorth> Point proven.
[09:09] <number10> doesnt seem to refresh the payloads for me
[09:10] <g0hww> gah. blooming ADSL is still down
[09:10] <GreatWhiteNorth> Aw
[09:10] <Hix> try browse all > then the all payloads (testing) tab
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[09:10] <LAGMonkey> g0hww.... any chance of getting access to next doors wifi?
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[09:11] <mclane> upu stream up?
[09:11] <Upu_M0PU> should be
[09:11] <arko> http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?ch=3&id=1010
[09:11] <LAGMonkey> and of course... babs you need the xkcd link http://xkcd.com/466/
[09:11] <arko> wonder why they have the chase cars in dubai though
[09:11] <g0hww> LAGMonkey, at least i've got my iphone plugged into this linux laptop so i have 3G conenctivity
[09:12] <GreatWhiteNorth> They prefer the sun, sand and over priced drinks maybe?
[09:12] <LAGMonkey> its better than nothing thats for sure g0hww.
[09:12] <Hix> arko: AbuHABi is nearby
[09:12] <g0hww> i can't see any LOHAN docs in dl-fldigi(HAB)
[09:12] <mclane> not working for me, can see only the primary stream
[09:12] <GreatWhiteNorth> Maybe they expect Lohan to fly there after she's released into the wild.
[09:13] <arko> haha sunscreen
[09:13] <arko> smart
[09:13] <fsphil> I hate to complain about this nice weather... but I do frequently
[09:13] <GreatWhiteNorth> Brits do have the habit of frying like a mars bar in oil when it comes to summer sun.
[09:13] <LAGMonkey> mclane... M0UPU secondary screen isnt working for me ether. i dont think they have that running at the moment (only the primary)
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[09:14] <LAGMonkey> SHUTIT is up
[09:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> still no flight docs for REHAB and SHUTIT even in test
[09:14] <arko> LAGMonkey: i dont see the second stream either
[09:14] <LAGMonkey> second stream! tis live
[09:14] <GreatWhiteNorth> it's up
[09:14] <arko> woah!
[09:15] <LAGMonkey> technology! from the future
[09:15] <arko> point the cameras at each other to break the internet
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[09:15] <GreatWhiteNorth> It's like breaking the fourth wall.
[09:15] <fsphil> stereo
[09:15] <arko> haha
[09:15] <Upu_M0PU> Geoff-G8DHE LOHAN-REHAB
[09:15] <arko> i can finally watch it on my 3d tv
[09:15] <daveake_> lol
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[09:15] <GreatWhiteNorth> Arko, same here haha
[09:15] <daveake_> I assume my stream is up at last then
[09:15] Action: fsphil puts both up, crosses his eyes
[09:15] <GreatWhiteNorth> Knew bought 3D for a reason.
[09:15] <arko> hah
[09:15] <craag_> If I get my face close enough to the screen... https://www.thecraag.com/ukhastv.html
[09:15] <arko> nice
[09:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right OK onthe LOHAN preface!
[09:16] <LAGMonkey> can you tell who has the better 3G connection?
[09:16] <GreatWhiteNorth> 50 pounds a damn set of glasess
[09:16] <GreatWhiteNorth> glasses*
[09:16] <arko> craag_: is it supposse to have both feeds?
[09:16] <arko> i dont see either
[09:16] <craag_> arko: Enable unsafe loading of scripts
[09:17] <craag_> It's https, batc.tv isn't.
[09:17] <arko> seems legit
[09:17] <arko> haha
[09:17] <arko> unsigned
[09:17] <arko> wow nice!
[09:17] <fsphil> that is much nicer
[09:17] <fsphil> oooh I should get that on my big telly
[09:17] <LAGMonkey> its a must.
[09:17] <LAGMonkey> i feel all CSI like.
[09:17] <GreatWhiteNorth> It's not a must, it's required.
[09:18] <Maxell> craag_: cool, but Firefox blocks mixed content. You should not use https on that page.
[09:18] <Maxell> oh, it was already pointed ou
[09:18] <Maxell> t
[09:18] <craag_> Maxell: That server is https-only... gimme a mo
[09:18] <fsphil> what's the difference between a must, and required?
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[09:18] <GreatWhiteNorth> This is so worth neutering my Bioshock Infinite download for.
[09:18] <fsphil> works with firefox here
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[09:19] <craag_> Maxell: tada http://www.dxspot.tv/ukhastv.html
[09:19] <fsphil> The Doctor Dave
[09:19] <arko> nice hat Upu_M0PU
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[09:20] <fsphil> I'd have to keep upwind of Mr.Unhealthy
[09:20] <WillDuckworth> like what you'v done there craag
[09:20] <arko> haha "REHAB"
[09:21] <Maxell> craag_: \o/
[09:21] <Anonymous_> Mornin all
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[09:21] <LAGMonkey> morning annon
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[09:21] <Anonymous_> When are things supposed to lift off?
[09:21] <fsphil> 40 minutes
[09:21] <Maxell> soon
[09:21] <fsphil> ish
[09:22] <Maxell> lol
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[09:22] <arko> thats at 3am
[09:22] <arko> damn
[09:22] <GreatWhiteNorth> ish = at some point in time...ish
[09:22] <Anonymous_> Hmm, not sure if this wobbly hotel wifi connection will last that long
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[09:22] <Hix> ISH =http://goo.gl/82PNv
[09:22] <LAGMonkey> going to load up flight radar. make sure there arnt any 787s in the air
[09:23] <Hix> http://goo.gl/82PNv
[09:23] <Hix> oops
[09:23] <arko> lol
[09:23] <Anonymous_> :)
[09:23] <GreatWhiteNorth> Are any 787s in the air at all today? :P
[09:24] <g0hww> ah, dl-fldigi has the docs npw
[09:24] <g0hww> now
[09:24] <Anonymous_> Just look up and spot any smoke trails?
[09:24] <GreatWhiteNorth> Seen in news tomorrow: LOHAN taken out by blue ice.
[09:24] <arko> or lipos?
[09:25] <fsphil> umbrella fail
[09:25] <LAGMonkey> smoke trails? those are CHEM-TRAILS
[09:25] <arko> hahaha
[09:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> there's a hell of a time lag on the second stream!
[09:25] <GreatWhiteNorth> Chem trails might lure Lohan away...
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[09:25] <LAGMonkey> white lines in the sky?
[09:25] <fsphil> imagine that, chemicals in the air
[09:25] <GreatWhiteNorth> haha
[09:25] <Anonymous_> Nah, impossible
[09:26] <GreatWhiteNorth> Air is freeeeeee
[09:26] <arko> like dihydrogen monooxide
[09:26] <LAGMonkey> but what about the dihydrogen monoxide
[09:26] <Anonymous_> Lethal stuff that
[09:26] <arko> nice
[09:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> 12 seconds ...
[09:26] <GreatWhiteNorth> And to think, some how we all roughly made it into adulthood.
[09:26] <LAGMonkey> 12 second lag geoff?
[09:26] <fsphil> one of my payloads landed in that stuff, was never seen again
[09:26] <arko> was that a cut down test?
[09:26] <GreatWhiteNorth> RIP
[09:27] <LAGMonkey> Lest we forget
[09:27] <arko> nice Upu!!!
[09:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> between the two streams yes
[09:27] <Anonymous_> Not to mention our much missed past playmonaut
[09:27] <daveake_> SSDV on now
[09:27] <arko> super tiny!
[09:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> via craggs link
[09:27] <fsphil> there be pictures
[09:27] <fsphil> little pictures
[09:27] <GreatWhiteNorth> We should have a moment of silence for the missing Playmonaut
[09:27] <fsphil> M6RPI is in a mob?
[09:27] <arko> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[09:27] Nick change: daveake_ -> daveaje_M6RPI
[09:28] <daveaje_M6RPI> doh
[09:28] <LAGMonkey> ive got no more screens for data!
[09:28] Nick change: daveaje_M6RPI -> daveake_M6RPI
[09:28] <Anonymous_> ok, how do you change nickname here (as mine's half cut-off)
[09:28] <fsphil> Anonymous_: type /nick <blablabla>
[09:28] <arko> "/nick nicname"
[09:28] Nick change: Anonymous_ -> Anon
[09:28] <GreatWhiteNorth> LAGMonkey: I suppose we have the laptop in the other room we could use. Me: Yeah, the laptop that wants to set fire to itself.
[09:28] <daveake_M6RPI> much better
[09:29] Nick change: Anon -> Anon_Custard
[09:29] <Anon_Custard> That's a bit better
[09:29] <fsphil> oh thanks
[09:29] <fsphil> now I want custard
[09:29] <LAGMonkey> BA 747 flying overhead
[09:29] <Anon_Custard> :)
[09:29] Nick change: Hix -> BACON
[09:29] Nick change: BACON -> Hix
[09:29] <fsphil> YOU'RE NOT HELPING
[09:29] <GreatWhiteNorth> Bacon...HALF LIFE THREE CONFIRMED
[09:29] <GreatWhiteNorth> or something
[09:30] <arko> HAB
[09:30] <arko> its a 3 letter acro
[09:30] <arko> half life 3 confirmed
[09:30] <Anon_Custard> So what's the betting on how far LOHAN will get today?
[09:30] <GreatWhiteNorth> I think we need to get out more
[09:30] <LAGMonkey> shell get to france!
[09:30] <arko> 12 parces
[09:31] Nick change: mazzanet_ -> mazzanet
[09:31] <arko> parsecs
[09:31] <LAGMonkey> A320 Onur Air (???) overhaed
[09:31] <LazyLeopard> Bay of Biscay.
[09:31] <LAGMonkey> *overhead
[09:31] <fsphil> Bay of Biscuit
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[09:31] <Anon_Custard> Nom nom nom
[09:31] <Hix> bacon biscuit
[09:31] <fsphil> with custard
[09:31] <GreatWhiteNorth> mmm
[09:32] <GreatWhiteNorth> In a pancake
[09:32] <arko> Upu_M0PU: which one is the tiny new board?
[09:32] <fsphil> oooh
[09:32] <fsphil> I'm totally having a bacon and cheese toastie for breakfast
[09:32] <fsphil> with a little bit of pepper
[09:32] <LAGMonkey> and a chaser of custard?
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[09:33] <Anon_Custard> I wonder if they'd make me a ham and cheese toastie for lunch?
[09:33] <photonic> hi
[09:33] <fsphil> not sure I can fit custard into this meal
[09:33] <Hix> Oh, fsphil toasties. good call. I've got some ace ham inthe fridge
[09:33] <GreatWhiteNorth> Suddenly I want to infuse vodka with bacon
[09:33] <fsphil> oh perfect Hix
[09:33] Action: photonic is a hacker, i just fixed my optical drive using tweezers
[09:33] <photonic> and a kitchen knife
[09:33] <Hix> "Ballocket" sounds like a telling off
[09:33] <fsphil> kneel before photonic
[09:33] <LAGMonkey> ah hail the tweezers
[09:33] <photonic> turns out that it had a hair (eyelash?) jammed in the optics just behing the lens
[09:33] <fsphil> I'm afraid I would have fixed it by dropping it in the bin
[09:34] <LAGMonkey> naa your supposed to open the drive and blow on it
[09:34] <GreatWhiteNorth> I'd say all hail the oven, the amount of times we've oven baked my old laptop to revive it..
[09:34] <photonic> homemade tweezers i might add, using an old casing from some schitt the gf bought
[09:34] <Anon_Custard> Something almost appropriate about having an eyelash in the optics...
[09:34] <photonic> so she does have her uses :)
[09:34] <photonic> i have also used the oven trick
[09:34] <photonic> ok so what is going on with LOHAN?
[09:34] <fsphil> gravity is winning atm
[09:35] <fsphil> but they have a plan
[09:35] <photonic> sabotage!! so she can go and buy a macbook
[09:35] <Anon_Custard> Setting up waiting for launch (or lunch)
[09:35] <GreatWhiteNorth> A mighty plan/
[09:35] <photonic> but even she isn't that smart. At least I hope not.
[09:35] <LAGMonkey> although chav is working nicely
[09:35] <Hix> LOHAN is a fraud!!!! helium assisted!!! Thats H2 in the stream
[09:35] <fsphil> yes lots of nice little photos
[09:35] <Hix> I want my money back
[09:35] <fsphil> hydrogen assisted works too
[09:35] <LAGMonkey> you paied money for this
[09:35] <LAGMonkey> ?
[09:35] <photonic> she has managed to fix stuff before, its learning from The Master that helps
[09:36] <photonic> so far her list of stuff fixed is 5 items. Her list of stuff borked worse is like 100
[09:36] <photonic> she does try, poor little padawan
[09:36] <arko> sstv looks great :)
[09:36] <fsphil> the last thing I tried fixing I made worser
[09:36] <GreatWhiteNorth> The amount of crap I learnt off the husband by osmosis is amazing
[09:36] <photonic> LOL!
[09:36] <fsphil> is that ... what?
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[09:37] <GreatWhiteNorth> His pet projects always die when he's away. I get to play manual labour/semi-tech support.
[09:37] <photonic> i swear her IQ has gone up 10 points since we met, mostly due to my incessant ranting about tech stuff
[09:37] <number10_M0MDB> hope that dangling parachute isnt for the main payload ;)
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[09:37] <GreatWhiteNorth> Photonic, it's amazing how much that works for partners.
[09:37] <photonic> hm..
[09:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> they added that parachute for the failsafe timer
[09:38] <Anon_Custard> hmm, putting the stream to full-screen isn;t a good idea
[09:38] <fsphil> hehe, failsafe
[09:38] <arko> lol
[09:38] <GreatWhiteNorth> I rant about the daily fail, it may have lowered my husbands IQ as a result.
[09:38] <GreatWhiteNorth> :P
[09:38] <photonic> I phoned her the other day because something or other broke, and talked her through the fix
[09:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> if it doesn't work they drop the failsafe on its own
[09:38] <fsphil> this is like time travel. I can tell what Upu's about to do in one stream
[09:38] Action: photonic has repaired batteries before
[09:38] <eroomde> stop calling it a failsafe
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[09:38] <photonic> Seriously. With goddam epoxy
[09:38] <eroomde> it's a faildangerous
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[09:38] <GreatWhiteNorth> My batteries just like to set fire to themselves.
[09:39] <Hix> eroomde: :D
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[09:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> :-)
[09:39] <Anon_Custard> GWN - you work for Boeing? ;)
[09:39] <fsphil> the wacky races version of failsafe
[09:39] <arko> lol
[09:39] <GreatWhiteNorth> hahaha
[09:39] <number10_M0MDB> what exactly is it eroomde - I havent seen any details?
[09:39] <Anon_Custard> Hey don't knock Wacky Races ;)
[09:39] <LazyLeopard> fail!safe
[09:39] <photonic> "Fux. This LiFePO4 got gas. (poke) (HisssSSSS) ... "Now it stinks." (glue glue) ... "It verks!"
[09:39] <photonic> Its still going!
[09:39] <photonic> 6 months later
[09:39] <M0CJM_Neil> Hi all
[09:40] <Upu_M0PU> we are just trying to get the pi in the hose code
[09:40] <GreatWhiteNorth> Herro
[09:40] <Upu_M0PU> it fit last night
[09:40] <photonic> failunsafe
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[09:40] <photonic> HA
[09:40] <GreatWhiteNorth> That's what she said.
[09:40] Action: photonic has a pi
[09:40] <LAGMonkey> hose code?
[09:40] <eroomde> number10_M0MDB: it's a timer that sets of all the pyros anyway
[09:40] <GreatWhiteNorth> Who doesn't have a pi?
[09:40] <LazyLeopard> number10: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/27/lohan_failsafe_update/
[09:40] <photonic> its been Photoniceded thanks to some epoxy and heatsinks
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[09:40] <fsphil> My dog has a Pi
[09:40] <GreatWhiteNorth> We've got a pi collective.
[09:40] <number10_M0MDB> ta
[09:40] <photonic> ha
[09:40] <eroomde> and also something that sets off all the pyros anyway if the balloon burst prematurely
[09:40] Action: photonic has some video glasses here
[09:40] <photonic> might hook it up to my pi as an SSTV RX
[09:41] <eroomde> basically if something happens that isn't meant to, their 'failsafe' lets off pyros and fires rockets
[09:41] <GreatWhiteNorth> We've got a lovely little pi hooked up with boblight.
[09:41] <photonic> BooooOOOOM
[09:41] <GreatWhiteNorth> We call it pi-bob
[09:41] <eroomde> which is the michael bay approach to failsafes
[09:41] <photonic> fx: "Houston we have a problem"
[09:41] <GreatWhiteNorth> Houston IS a problem
[09:41] <photonic> whereas my approach is "Pray. And sacrifice chickens at it"
[09:41] <LAGMonkey> safety third
[09:42] <photonic> Health and Safety? Vas ist das.
[09:42] <GreatWhiteNorth> Mine is swear at it and threaten it with a three story fall with a sudden stop.
[09:42] Action: photonic has done that and it worked again
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[09:42] Action: fsphil makes a note to always look busy if doing a live stream of his launch
[09:42] <GreatWhiteNorth> Used to threaten my tech with impending drops in snow but moving from Canada stopped that practice.
[09:42] <Hix> eroomde: what could possibly go wrong??
[09:42] <photonic> Was a dead hard disk, tried all the usual fixes and it was deader than dead can be. So dropped it down a flight of stairs. Well I'll be quadroclusterfscked, it worked.
[09:43] <Babs____> i think when Obama was watching his marines storm Bin Laden's compoound streamed direct into the White House
[09:43] <GreatWhiteNorth> haha nice
[09:43] <Babs____> he should have insisted on them wearing shorts and wide brimmed sun hats
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[09:43] <arko> well, i can't stay awake any longer, its 2:42am... wish you Upu_M0PU and daveake and your team the best of luck!
[09:43] <photonic> Yeah. Got 100% of the data back
[09:43] <GreatWhiteNorth> I've got a habit of not just killing tech but down right flatlining it.
[09:43] <arko> good night guys!
[09:43] <photonic> AND it was a production system
[09:43] <Anon_Custard> This launch is starting to look like a geek picnic
[09:43] <photonic> lol
[09:43] <GreatWhiteNorth> There's no reincarnation with my crap.
[09:43] <Hix> reckon the whitehouse used spacenear for the blackhawks Babs____ ?
[09:43] <Babs____> cheers arko
[09:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> night arko
[09:43] <LAGMonkey> nnight arko
[09:44] Action: photonic has resurrected even totally dead stuff
[09:44] <GreatWhiteNorth> nn arko
[09:44] <Hix> bye arko
[09:44] <fsphil> upu playing with a parachute
[09:44] <fsphil> "I can FLY!!"
[09:44] <LAGMonkey> upu looks like hes having a great time
[09:44] <Babs____> undoubtedly hix
[09:44] <photonic> Like that flat panel with no picture, all it needed was a microfuse and the backlight changing
[09:44] <Babs____> Upu with the parachute is like performance art
[09:44] <LAGMonkey> comunity theater?
[09:44] <fsphil> now he's mastered the art of walking backwards
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[09:45] <photonic> I see ad potential. Picture of the upside-down accelerometer on the Russian splatellite. "Should have gone to Specsavers"
[09:45] <GreatWhiteNorth> I've killed 5 laptops, 1 elevator (repeatively, up to 7 times), two dishwashers, four HDD, two batteries, two power cords.
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[09:45] <fsphil> how do you kill an elevator?
[09:45] <GreatWhiteNorth> and one cd rom.
[09:45] <daveake_M6RPI> try harder
[09:45] <photonic> I'll take your stuff and raise you an e-bike
[09:45] <Hix> if he can walk backwards he just needs 1 white glove to complete the look
[09:45] <GreatWhiteNorth> I got in...it died.
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[09:45] <fsphil> ooch
[09:45] <photonic> which then got stolen AFTER I broke it and fixed it.
[09:45] <photonic> ffs
[09:45] <GreatWhiteNorth> aw
[09:46] <eroomde> fsphil: hang it
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[09:46] <photonic> i have had it with these motherf*cking batteries on this motherf*cking Dreamliner.
[09:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> upu seems to be making a path in the field
[09:46] <fsphil> press all the buttons at once
[09:46] <fsphil> crop circles Geoff-G8DHE
[09:46] <photonic> Yet ANOTHER lithium fire
[09:46] <GreatWhiteNorth> fsphil: I now prefer the stairs. You can only get trapped in an elevator so many times before you don't really want to go near it again.
[09:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> in that case he has no imagination!
[09:47] <photonic> ffs. At this rate they would have less disasters selling the planes to the Taliba
[09:47] <Hix> Upu_M0PU: are you preparing dor a duel?
[09:47] <Hix> measuring out the paces
[09:47] <GreatWhiteNorth> haha Photonic
[09:47] <Anon_Custard> How many people have they brought to this picnic^H^H^H^H^H^H launch?
[09:47] <fsphil> it's quite a crowd
[09:47] Action: photonic offers to buy one, and rips out the batteries and replaces them with NiMH
[09:47] <LAGMonkey> surely the press are there
[09:47] <LAGMonkey> other than el reg
[09:48] <photonic> so what. I can't carry as many passengers. I can still use it for high altitude stuff
[09:48] <Anon_Custard> Bah, hotel wifi data allowance about to be reached. Might have to get up and go get a new one
[09:48] <photonic> such as launching my warp ship if it ever gets built
[09:48] <GreatWhiteNorth> Assuming you get it off the ground :P
[09:48] <fsphil> hotel wifi is awful
[09:48] <photonic> For more information see my published works
[09:48] <Anon_Custard> You're telling me - this one is especially crap
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[09:49] Action: photonic is on slower-than-treacleband
[09:49] <photonic> compliments of a certain ISP
[09:49] <Anon_Custard> 100MB per 24 hour limit per go, and 256mb speed
[09:49] <fsphil> someone speaking bits over the phone, and another entering them into the computer at the other end?
[09:49] <photonic> Getting it off the ground isn't a problem. Getting it into orbit IS a problem
[09:49] <LAGMonkey> at least its better than IPoAC
[09:49] <fsphil> "no that was a 1, not 0 ... wait lets start again"
[09:49] <LAGMonkey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
[09:49] <GreatWhiteNorth> Our ISP won't fix our line, since they rent it off the major provider and that provider won't fix it because we're not a direct customer.
[09:50] <GreatWhiteNorth> Mmm lovely ISPs
[09:50] <photonic> also even the UK Govt would object to an unlicensed nuclear powered warp drive equipped "space plane" being launched by a civilian with less budget than El Reg
[09:50] <Hix> i reckon Im going to be able to reflow my IMU board by simply leaving it on the car dashboard today
[09:50] <LAGMonkey> "space plane"
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[09:51] <GreatWhiteNorth> The daily fail would hang you with a noose before the UK gov caught on.
[09:51] <tibs01-2E0SGG> .
[09:51] <photonic> ha
[09:51] <tibs01-2E0SGG> whens the balloons taking off
[09:51] <Anon_Custard> Anyway time to bail for a while and go look for a better link.
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[09:51] <Anon_Custard> Maybe back in a bit
[09:51] <fsphil> good luck Anon_Custard
[09:51] <GreatWhiteNorth> gl Anon
[09:51] <LAGMonkey> copy copy. cya soon
[09:51] <photonic> So far I can't even get a single pellet of HTSC to do anything.
[09:51] <tibs01-2E0SGG> whens the balloons taking off
[09:51] <photonic> Apart from look sorry for itseld
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[09:51] <photonic> f
[09:51] <fsphil> whoops, ssdv image clash
[09:51] <LAGMonkey> 30 mins tibs01. ish
[09:51] <LAGMonkey> maybe
[09:51] <tibs01-2E0SGG> cool whats the url to track
[09:51] <photonic> IPoAC is de schitt
[09:52] <photonic> 500GB of microSDs is perfectly feasibler
[09:52] <LAGMonkey> IPoAC does have a problem with lag tho
[09:52] <photonic> ha
[09:52] <photonic> IPoHC FTW
[09:52] <photonic> aka Sneakernet
[09:52] <tibs01-2E0SGG> where they launching from this time
[09:52] <tibs01-2E0SGG> ?
[09:52] <eroomde> brightwalton
[09:52] <GreatWhiteNorth> Sneaky, sneaky.
[09:52] <eroomde> near newbury
[09:52] <LAGMonkey> i think its the same location as last time
[09:52] <tibs01-2E0SGG> ahhh
[09:52] <photonic> Hm
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[09:53] <Hix> Brightwalton
[09:53] <Hix> tibs01-2E0SGG: http://spacenear.us
[09:53] <LAGMonkey> so the fence on the left hand side should be checked to see if it can open
[09:53] <fsphil> It's always bright in Brightwalton
[09:53] <eroomde> not always true
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[09:53] <GreatWhiteNorth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4_IM5Rti0E
[09:53] <photonic> HummmMM "Warp core online." (hisssSSSS "Coils below Tc" ... "Engage the quantum drive. " (BANG!!!!) "Feck."
[09:53] <fsphil> most of the time I suspect
[09:53] <tibs01-2E0SGG> .....
[09:53] <LAGMonkey> photonic... you can glue it back together
[09:54] <GreatWhiteNorth> Mmm warpcore
[09:54] <photonic> Damn laws of physics are so inconvenient
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[09:54] <eroomde> photonic: are you sure you're in the right channel?
[09:54] <GreatWhiteNorth> That's why we have superglue.
[09:54] <eroomde> you seem to be monologuing scifi
[09:54] <GreatWhiteNorth> It's super.
[09:54] <M0CJM_Neil> Have I missed something as it seems like a load of c**p is being spoken in this here room today!
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[09:54] <photonic> Wonder how much I can get a Screamliner for on Ebay
[09:55] <GreatWhiteNorth> First born child.
[09:55] <fsphil> fresh batteries
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[09:56] <daveake_M6RPI> damaged stock from Halfords
[09:56] <eroomde> etl daveake_M6RPI ?
[09:56] <fsphil> Habfords .. new name for Upu's shop
[09:57] <LAGMonkey> there does look like a bit of a wind out there at the launch site.
[09:57] <fsphil> though it would mean raising the price of everything by 50%
[09:57] <photonic> Actually I have plans
[09:57] <daveake_M6RPI> estimated time of lester?
[09:57] <photonic> Google "Bussard Polywell"
[09:57] <eroomde> correct
[09:57] <daveake_M6RPI> Waiting for L
[09:57] <daveake_M6RPI> then I'll do the fill
[09:58] <eroomde> within 30/40 mins?
[09:58] <cuddykid> interesting payload names..
[09:58] <daveake_M6RPI> about that ye
[09:58] <cuddykid> reminds be of the time when subo was tracking ;)
[09:58] <daveake_M6RPI> s
[09:58] Action: fsphil sighs
[09:58] <LAGMonkey> payload being attached
[09:58] <photonic> turns out that it could be modified to increase the confinement fields and with some very minor modifications to the walls the energised plasma could be channelled out without affecting the reaction
[09:58] <photonic> ie impulse drive
[09:58] <eroomde> photonic: enough
[09:58] <eroomde> perhaps
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[09:58] <photonic> With an antimatter injector or 5 it could also go supercritical ie 5* breakeven
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[09:59] <Hix> ?topic
[09:59] <Hix> WH Stirks
[09:59] <photonic> the idea is that injecting positrons into the fusion focus would increase the temperature
[09:59] <Hix> good morning Richard Vere-Compton
[09:59] <photonic> Now we can generate those by the billion using gold bombarded with a particle beam it could just work
[09:59] <LAGMonkey> how much lag between the primary and secondary screen did we work out there was?
[10:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> was 12 its growing
[10:00] Action: photonic takes this discussion to another channel so as not to muck up things
[10:00] <photonic> warpcore
[10:00] <LAGMonkey> thanks Geoff
[10:00] <photonic> same IRC server
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[10:00] <eroomde> thanks photonic
[10:00] <eroomde> there's a launch about to happen
[10:01] <eroomde> gotta maintain some semblance of an SNR for the benefit of everyone trying to track
[10:01] <photonic> np
[10:01] <Hix> looks more like a picnic about to happen
[10:01] <photonic> ok, so they are filling the balloon now?
[10:01] <eroomde> any other time space chat welcome :)
[10:01] <Upu_M0PU> not yet
[10:01] <Upu_M0PU> just setting up
[10:01] <Upu_M0PU> bear with us
[10:02] <LAGMonkey> bearing
[10:02] <LAGMonkey> rar
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[10:02] <eroomde> i might actually go out for 30 mins or so. will be 20 mins before fabled lester arriving and launch even if they fill super efficiently
[10:02] <fsphil> time for breakfast
[10:02] <Maxell> ^ this
[10:03] <Maxell> nom nom time
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[10:03] <photonic> lol
[10:03] <Maxell> Will I even be able to hear in .nl ?
[10:04] Action: photonic wonders if the transmission has a hope of reaching the CI
[10:04] <photonic> i can probably tune in using a modified TV tunerhead
[10:04] <LAGMonkey> RTL-SDR is a good way of tuning in
[10:05] <photonic> Yeah, I need to get a decent rig
[10:06] <Hix> photonic: http://goo.gl/aIqsj
[10:06] <Upu_M0PU> ok filling shortly
[10:08] <photonic> OK so its 434.25? That could be doable
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[10:09] <photonic_ISPSUX> NYET!
[10:09] <LAGMonkey> photonic my E4000 tuner SDR dosnt have a problem picking up 433.95 Mhz. might be worth giving it a try
[10:10] <photonic_ISPSUX> Hm
[10:10] <photonic_ISPSUX> I used to have one of those
[10:10] <photonic_ISPSUX> based on a similar chipset, trouble is I can't find it or sent it to someone
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[10:11] <Herman-PB0AHX> hi all the info is good is the shift of CHAD 600/600 I have done auto configure?
[10:11] <photonic_ISPSUX> wonder if any of the computer shops here have these?
[10:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Sounds right Herman-PB0AHX
[10:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> It has the SSDV on it
[10:11] <Herman-PB0AHX> Tnx GEOFF
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[10:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[10:12] <number10_M0MDB> strange - just switch radio on and carrier at 434.250 - I left my tracker from last week powered on
[10:12] <G7UXW-Kevin> fsphil: did b5 just runout of battery and is it still posably afloat ???
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[10:13] <number10_M0MDB> ran out of battry I think
[10:13] <LazyLeopard> Yep.
[10:14] <LazyLeopard> Last reported voltage was something like 0.86
[10:14] <photonic_ISPSUX> Hm
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[10:15] <photonic_ISPSUX> I'd have added a solar cell and Joule Thief
[10:15] <photonic_ISPSUX> so if the sun angle was right the thing would still track
[10:15] Nick change: photonic_ISPSUX -> photonic
[10:15] <Maxell> RTLSDR is a pretty decent HAB reciever https://revspace.nl/HAB_Tracker_Station
[10:16] <LazyLeopard> It had a solar panel, but something happened and it stopped working.
[10:16] <Herman-PB0AHX> what is the scheduled time for CHAV to be unleashed
[10:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> ISH
[10:17] <LazyLeopard> About an hour ago. ;)
[10:17] <Maxell> ish, soon, in the future
[10:17] <Upu_M0PU> sorry
[10:17] <LazyLeopard> No problem ;)
[10:17] <Maxell> :(
[10:17] <Upu_M0PU> some issueseplex with all the wiring its quite com
[10:17] <photonic> Hm
[10:17] <Upu_M0PU> I'd guess an hour
[10:17] <eroomde> right i am off for a run now then
[10:17] <eroomde> and yay for wiring
[10:17] <LazyLeopard> Time to make some more coffee then. ;)
[10:17] <iain_g4sgx> My dog thanks you.
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[10:18] <eroomde> milspec connectors and opto-isolation....
[10:18] <photonic> Probably bashed up against something
[10:18] <photonic> For applications like this, I'd use duplicated wiring so each part has two independent lines
[10:18] <Maxell> It's not a floater right?
[10:18] Action: eroomde is a broken record
[10:18] <LazyLeopard> Not intentionally. ;)
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[10:18] <photonic> ha
[10:18] <Hix> any recommendations for a virtual audio can
[10:18] <Hix> cable for win?
[10:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> VAC but it needs a donation
[10:19] <iain_g4sgx> I decided to go for the low fi link with a patch cable.
[10:19] <LAGMonkey> VAC is a good bit of software. and the donation isnt crazy
[10:20] <Maxell> But open source free software! :(
[10:21] <photonic> Its donationware
[10:21] <Maxell> "meh"
[10:21] <photonic> Like my LED christmas card. Total donations received, $0.00
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[10:22] <Maxell> VAC talkes over the audio cable every five minutes, right?
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[10:22] <Maxell> s/talkes/talks/
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[10:23] <Darkside> Maxell: yes
[10:23] <Maxell> Thats just pure evil
[10:23] <Darkside> yep
[10:23] <Darkside> pirate it already
[10:24] <Hix> this one? http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.htm
[10:25] <fsphil> or use aac -- actual audio cable
[10:25] <Maxell> Trial version the following limitations: * Supports up to 3 cables. * Adds female voice reminder each several seconds.
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[10:26] <Maxell> Lol, would be kind of funny to see that happen on 144.8 MHz APRS
[10:27] <Hix> ^^^ evil Maxell ??
[10:27] <Hix> got one of those fsphil just tring to minimise clutter in prep for chasing
[10:27] <fsphil> Every so often when listening to the PSK31 frequences, you can hear the windows startup sound
[10:27] <Maxell> :P
[10:27] <Maxell> trolololo
[10:28] <Ferran> hi all
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[10:28] <Maxell> Is it considered abuse if I would loop that?
[10:28] <bambi> bambi here in Australia watching the video and tracker site with interest :)
[10:28] <LAGMonkey> speaking of strange sounds. i guess i should one day try and hear the numbers station from RAF Akrotiri
[10:28] <Ottman001> Everyone else lost the CHAV live video?
[10:28] Action: fsphil has moved to a machine with no flash
[10:29] <LAGMonkey> last image for me is chav image 10 at 10:11
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[10:29] <LAGMonkey> oh and secondary live feed seems stuck
[10:29] <Maxell> fsphil: yesterday I was decoding BPSK-31... Someone with broken transmitter starts pissing eveyone off by just calling CQ for 5 minutes. Someone pops on his freqency and starts blasting away: You make QRM to all - i make QRM to you! IZ8OFO you have very overmodulation signal with very big splatter - PLEASE repair your condition - very big QRM from you!
[10:30] <Maxell> And IZ8OFO just kept calling CQ :P
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[10:31] <fsphil> they're like a bunch of kids on psk31
[10:31] <Upu_M0PU> filling
[10:31] <Maxell> Eveyone became mad. I had a great evening.
[10:31] Action: fsphil breaks down and installs flash
[10:32] <M0CJM_Neil> Upu_M0PU Are you at the launch? Which one is you :-)
[10:32] <Maxell> Don't go to the dark side!11
[10:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> Standing at rear with white cap on
[10:32] <M0CJM_Neil> Cool :-)
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[10:33] <LAGMonkey> the orb... its inflating
[10:33] <fsphil> oh great, dl-fldigi won't compile in fedora 19
[10:33] <Maxell> Oh look, some kind of balloon
[10:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> Looks quite breezy!
[10:35] <mfa298> fsphil: that's the pain of bleeding edge.
[10:35] <GMT> it's chasing them aroun like "The Prisoner"
[10:35] <mfa298> I've not even downloaded fc19 yet. I've got an rpm for fc18 though
[10:36] <LAGMonkey> wunderground shows winds from the north at ground level
[10:37] <fsphil> mfa298: indeed
[10:37] <fsphil> anyone able to read what was on that notepad?
[10:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nope
[10:37] <M0CJM_Neil> fsphil nope
[10:37] <bambi> "Don't read this!" :)
[10:37] <fsphil> woo, bypassed the error
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[10:38] <Hix> http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/index.htm seems to work ok
[10:39] <fsphil> vb?
[10:39] <fsphil> uh-oh
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[10:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> But its donationware as well and still onl 3 cables VAC has ... lots ;-)
[10:40] <Maxell> As long as it doesnt have "Adds female voice reminder each several seconds."
[10:40] <LAGMonkey> UPU is CHAV turned off at the moment?
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[10:41] <Hix> I only need 1 cable and 0 female voices. I have one of them here
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[10:41] <photonic> Heh heh
[10:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> :-)
[10:41] Nick change: paulc_ -> Guest6756
[10:41] <Hix> and its more than donationware in her case
[10:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> How you going to track all 4 then ?
[10:42] <Hix> I'm not
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[10:42] <Hix> :)
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[10:42] <Maxell> lol
[10:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> 4x the fun
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[10:42] <Hix> Brightwalton means having the yagi pointing through the house
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[10:42] <photonic> "Thank you for choosing Windows 8. Please note that we are sorry Dave but we can't do that."
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[10:42] <fsphil> nobody in Brightwalton can open their cars right now
[10:42] <Maxell> How do I set sdrconsole to use a virtual audio cable?
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[10:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> Click the Audio button in the VFO and choose
[10:43] <fsphil> ooh, gopro
[10:43] <LAGMonkey> no expence spared
[10:43] <iain_g4sgx> gettig really annoyed with this constant disc-connecting, anyone know the cause?
[10:44] <Maxell> Ah, playback devic
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[10:44] <Maxell> Broken connection. Wi-Fi disconnecting/powersaving?
[10:44] <Upu_M0PU> gopro not working sorry
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[10:44] <Upu_M0PU> just off to get spare
[10:44] <Gorthag> Upu_M0PU: Chav Stream is down on purpose?
[10:44] <Upu_M0PU> daves had to go get go prpo
[10:45] <LAGMonkey> thanks for the update upu
[10:45] <Upu_M0PU> stream should be back
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[10:51] <LAGMonkey> camera isuues by the look
[10:51] <Ottman001> Dammit, both streams out now. Looked like it was about to be launched too!
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[10:51] <fsphil> stream back on
[10:51] <fsphil> well, the second one is
[10:52] <LAGMonkey> second stream is up
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[10:52] <Upu_M0PU> stream ok now ?
[10:52] <fsphil> ssdv image coming in
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[10:52] <fsphil> both streams up
[10:52] <fsphil> stereo again
[10:52] <LAGMonkey> more powah!
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[10:52] <Ottman001> Both up :)
[10:52] <fsphil> we need a PTZ camera so we can be nosey
[10:52] <Hix> stream1 dead again
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[10:53] <LazyLeopard> fsphil: Heh, With voting on where it points?
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[10:54] <daveake_> streams ok?
[10:54] <Ottman001> Both down :(
[10:54] <LAGMonkey> CHAV SSDV seems to be up and running
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[10:54] <mclane> no
[10:54] <fsphil> aye
[10:54] <fsphil> ooh 600 baud
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[10:54] <fsphil> stream 2 is back
[10:54] <LAGMonkey> its in the air!
[10:55] <mclane> impressive payload!!
[10:55] <LAGMonkey> moment of truth
[10:55] <iain_G4SGX> whats the ssdv url again?
[10:56] <LAGMonkey> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[10:56] <LAGMonkey> primary stream back! w00t
[10:56] <fsphil> and gone
[10:56] <fsphil> no
[10:56] <fsphil> stuttery
[10:56] <LAGMonkey> faster than SSDV lol
[10:56] <fsphil> the green fields of england need more bandwidth!
[10:57] <Ottman001> Launch!
[10:57] <fsphil> woo!
[10:57] <LAGMonkey> look at it go!
[10:57] <WillDuckworth> breezy
[10:57] <fsphil> hah
[10:57] <fsphil> second stream, looked like it nearly hit someone in the face
[10:57] <LAGMonkey> that was almost a take out by lohan
[10:57] <LAGMonkey> in the facE!
[10:57] <GreatWhiteNorth> 10 points
[10:57] <LAGMonkey> to the bat mobile!
[10:57] <chrisstubbs> Yay I havent missed the fun :D
[10:58] <M0CJM_Neil> Woow, who is tracking what?
[10:58] <LAGMonkey> now to get the maps out and try to predict the direction of the damm thing
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[10:59] <fsphil> don't trust those predictions
[10:59] <M0CJM_Neil> Jesus thats some signal
[10:59] <LAGMonkey> thats why we must update them
[10:59] <fsphil> Upu_M0UPU: or daveake_, what's the predicted burst altitude?
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[11:00] <G7UXW-Kevin> chav .075 ???
[11:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> Read panel in tracker
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[11:01] <G7UXW-Kevin> yes but its been wrong before
[11:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its what is on the latest posting
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[11:01] <LAGMonkey> good rate of climb thats for sure
[11:01] <fsphil> predictions are a bit more sensible now
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[11:02] <LAGMonkey> MET office states winds from the NNW
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[11:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> Getting the SSDV on 434.495 but only 500Hz shift
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[11:03] <fsphil> are you online Geoff-G8DHE? packets are not getting uploaded from you
[11:03] <G4MYS_Andy> SHUTTIT on 434.495.6 drifting up band slightly excellent copy in southampton
[11:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> not fully decoding yet but its clear in the w/f
[11:03] <fsphil> ah
[11:03] <M0CJM_Neil> is chav sending ssdv?
[11:04] <LAGMonkey> yes
[11:04] <fsphil> aye
[11:04] <LAGMonkey> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[11:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> getting 434.65
[11:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> The other two are in QRM
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[11:04] <M0CJM_Neil> chav is 434.075??
[11:04] <fsphil> yep
[11:04] <fsphil> ish
[11:04] <M0CJM_Neil> sod all here ???
[11:04] <fsphil> probably not high enough yet
[11:05] <fsphil> or tune around a bit
[11:05] <G7UXW-Kevin> goeff so much for 075
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[11:06] <M0CJM_Neil> umm got something on 434.066.69 but very wide b/w and major fading
[11:06] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> the two live streams are pretty out of sync, dave was picking up a groundsheet in one and carrying the hydrogen bottle in the other
[11:06] <fsphil> 600 baud, so yea it'll be quite wide
[11:06] <LAGMonkey> there is a large lag between the two
[11:06] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> lol
[11:07] <Hix> got something on 434.496?!?
[11:07] <LazyLeopard> Yeah, CHAV will need bandwidth set way wide.
[11:07] <Maxell> My body is ready http://i.imgur.com/fQW5qtz.png
[11:08] <LazyLeopard> 434.066.5 or so on dial at present.
[11:08] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> Hix shutit
[11:08] <Hix> no you shutit chrisstubbsM6EDF ;p
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[11:09] <M0CJM_Neil> got reasonable sig but nowt in ssdv rx window a all
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[11:10] <LAGMonkey> aaand were back
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[11:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> Anybody decoding SSDV on 434.495 - good sig but nothing looks right
[11:10] <fsphil> selected and autoconfigured the right payload?
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[11:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh yes some are getting it OK
[11:10] <craag_> Geoff-G8DHE: Set the filters to 600?
[11:11] <craag_> filters don't autoconfigure
[11:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup
[11:11] <LazyLeopard> Yeah, with bandwidth 600+
[11:12] <G7UXW-Kevin> any one got decode yet ???
[11:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not Rv either
[11:12] <M0CJM_Neil> no got bw and baud at 600
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[11:12] <LazyLeopard> Yeah, getting bits of SSDV Ok.
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[11:13] <M0CJM_Neil> baud rate and carrier shift both 600?
[11:13] <craag_> You do need it quite strong to decode at 600
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[11:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> Shift is a lot less like 490Hz
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[11:14] <eroomde> missed launch, how was it?
[11:14] <fsphil> nearly a head shot, but otherwise good
[11:14] <M0CJM_Neil> tru#ying 500 shift, its heading right for me to!
[11:14] <LAGMonkey_ISP> a lot better than last time.
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[11:15] <G7UXW-Kevin> whats the baud rate its dammm fast tried 1200 600 800 3000 150 110 100
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[11:15] <craag_> 600
[11:15] <craag_> 8n2
[11:16] <SpeedEvil> 8?
[11:16] <SpeedEvil> Oh - sstv
[11:16] <SpeedEvil> nvm
[11:16] <Maxell> 8N1
[11:16] <fsphil> it should be 2 stop bits
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[11:16] <Maxell> oh
[11:16] <Maxell> uh
[11:16] <Maxell> hmmhmm
[11:16] <fsphil> for the ssdv one anyway
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[11:17] <M0CJM_Neil> what should the ssdv settings be??
[11:17] <fsphil> 600 baud, 600hz shift, 8N2
[11:17] <fsphil> but autoconfigure on CHAV should set all that
[11:17] <fsphil> you may need to adjust the shift and filter though
[11:17] <M0CJM_Neil> it doesnt
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[11:18] <fsphil> what does it set?
[11:18] <M0CJM_Neil> ooh getting an image
[11:18] <G7UXW-Kevin> auto 55/50
[11:18] <G7UXW-Kevin> 500/50
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[11:19] <M0CJM_Neil> do the ssdv images get uploaded?
[11:19] <fsphil> yes, to http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[11:20] <M0CJM_Neil> ahh my callsign appears under ssdv image
[11:20] <G7UXW-Kevin> 600/600 8n2 uploaded my first
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[11:22] <GMT> I'm on SPEARS at the moment, should I change to another to get better coverage?
[11:22] <Maxell> as soon as the SSDV is strong enough to get good decodes I guess so
[11:23] <Hix> i was just thinking CHAVonly has dave
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[11:23] <Maxell> It wont ever be for me so i'm sticking with both 50 baud trackers
[11:23] <LAGMonkey> rehab dosnt have many trackers
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[11:24] <Hix> I'm not a fan of this deaf decoding thing. I prefer to hear RTTY
[11:24] <jm_> Hi, G1WMK here, tracking SPEARS and REHAB, but I don't see any balloon data on spacenear.us - any idea why?
[11:24] <Darkside> dont use IE
[11:24] <PE2G> Maxell: Any traces yet?
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[11:25] <M0CJM_Neil> All working frine in chrome, dont use IE, its broke :-(
[11:25] <Hix> does SHUTIT reset every so often?
[11:25] <GeDaMo> Firefox also works
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[11:25] <Maxell> PE2G: not yet. I'll be doing SHUTIT and REHAB.
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[11:25] <Maxell> They are clean of QRM and 50 baud.
[11:26] <jm_> Aha! thanks for that - all OK in Chrome
[11:26] <PE2G> Maxell: OK
[11:26] <Hix> do't use IE. Ever. Is a good mantra
[11:26] <GMT> I will switch to REHAB to get better balanced coverage
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[11:27] <fsphil> those contrails are really high up
[11:27] <M0CJM_Neil> The vulcan is on its way from Yeovil to Goodwood, currently over shaftsbury
[11:27] Nick change: mike -> Guest64979
[11:27] <M0CJM_Neil> gonna look outside to see if i can see the balloon (doubt i will)
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[11:29] <LAGMonkey> chase car away!
[11:29] <g0hww> ok, i'm hearing rehab now
[11:29] <g0hww> which one has the ssdv?
[11:29] <fsphil> huston, rehab a problem
[11:29] <iain_G4SGX> Will stay on SPEARS as I have a somewhat complicated arrangement of a laptop at the bottom of thee garden controlled by VNC.
[11:29] <fsphil> chav
[11:30] <fsphil> the unfornatually named payload is doing ssdv
[11:30] <eroomde> iain_G4SGX: that should be your facebook relationship status
[11:30] <iain_G4SGX> lol
[11:30] <M0CJM_Neil> chav on 434.068.81 on my radio is doing ssdv
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[11:31] <pjm_> yo
[11:31] <fsphil> ack
[11:31] <fsphil> this is like being in the cinema
[11:31] <pjm_> i'm seeing some mixing products from HAB's
[11:31] <Maxell> Should be in horizon soon :-)
[11:31] <iain_G4SGX> Will try Chav maybe when green.
[11:31] <M0CJM_Neil> i cant see it outside with my eyes though
[11:31] <fsphil> when someone big sits in front of you
[11:31] <pjm_> on 434.700
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[11:31] <eroomde> iain_G4SGX: you're in Heydon?
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[11:31] <eroomde> i know it
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[11:32] <iain_G4SGX> yep
[11:32] <iain_G4SGX> you know it?
[11:32] <eroomde> cool
[11:32] <eroomde> yep
[11:32] <eroomde> mum is fron hunstanton, have family in holt
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[11:32] <eroomde> cycle around that whole area a lot
[11:32] <Maxell> PE2G: we have signal.
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[11:32] <iain_G4SGX> cool.
[11:32] <Maxell> It helps if I set the ppm offset
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[11:33] <eroomde> nice view of upu's neck
[11:33] <PE2G> Maxell: Ok Thanks
[11:33] <LAGMonkey> i assume the secondary stream is not going to come back up
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[11:34] <pjm_> http://pjm.uhf-satcom.com/twtr/multihab.jpg
[11:34] <Maxell> bertrik: PE2G: http://i.imgur.com/182WVMl.png \o/
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[11:34] <eroomde> maybe that's not upu
[11:35] <LAGMonkey> someone got out of the car
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[11:35] <M0CJM_Neil> still some severe fading from chav which suprises me as its almost overhead
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[11:36] <pjm_> can u check if u have signals on 434.700
[11:36] <pjm_> and 434.550
[11:36] <Darkside> M0CJM_Neil: thats normal
[11:36] <Darkside> antenna nulls
[11:36] <LAGMonkey> will the chase car be on the tracker?
[11:37] <M0CJM_Neil> ok Darkside cheers
[11:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> There is somehign on434.7 looks like MPSK
[11:38] <M0CJM_Neil> lol nice orderly landing predicition along A303
[11:38] <pjm_> i thikn that is mixing product from 434.6 and 434.650
[11:38] <pjm_> there is also other on 434.550
[11:38] <Hix> SHUTIT distance has varied by a max of 3km so far. Its arcing around a point very near me
[11:39] <fsphil> the landing prediction is using a burst altitude I made up
[11:39] <GMT> the rad trace landing prediction is almost on top of Stonehenge
[11:39] <bambi> <Darkside> Good evening from Brisbane :)
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[11:39] <M0CJM_Neil> Hix Where are you??
[11:39] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> hello all
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[11:39] Nick change: craag_M0DNY_port -> craag_M0DNY_p
[11:39] <eroomde> both hands upu
[11:39] <fsphil> Hi Upu, don't crash
[11:39] Action: craag_M0DNY_p is wondering if I'm well positioned?
[11:39] <eroomde> 'is this forever?'
[11:40] <fsphil> hello person I don't know
[11:40] <fsphil> no we are not there yet
[11:40] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> I can slap myself against the head today, I left the rotator control cable out @ work :(
[11:40] Action: LAGMonkey waves
[11:40] <fsphil> d'oh
[11:40] <pjm_> also other mixing products on 434.386 and 434.338
[11:40] <Hix> M0NDY is right at pred landing spot
[11:40] <Hix> M0CJM_Neil: Epping Forest
[11:40] <Hix> Hix on tracker
[11:40] <Hix> NE of london near M11
[11:40] <Hix> is there a stream from the chase?
[11:41] <fsphil> yea
[11:41] <LAGMonkey> i dont think the landing is going to happen where predicted
[11:41] <M0CJM_Neil> Hix Oh sorry ust have misread your message, though you said you was almost under the path :-)
[11:41] <fsphil> https://www.thecraag.com/ukhastv.html
[11:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> OK what am I missing on SSDV RTTY 600/600 b/w 600 strong signal, not reversed not overloaded ...?
[11:42] <craag_M0DNY_p> or http://www.dxspot.tv/ukhastv.html
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[11:42] <craag_M0DNY_p> no ssl errors :)
[11:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> 8N2 ascii
[11:42] <M0CJM_Neil> Geoff-G8DHE 8n2 data settings
[11:42] <Hix> oh arrr
[11:42] <Hix> ~100Km away
[11:42] <Hix> Upu is chasing the chasecar
[11:43] <fsphil> oh what's dave forgot
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[11:43] <LazyL_M0LEP> 8N2?
[11:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> Tks M0CJM_Neil yes 8n2 ascii
[11:43] <Hix> fsphil: is there audio?
[11:43] <fsphil> Hix: no
[11:43] <fsphil> like a silent movie, I'm making up my own dialog
[11:43] <Hix> ahhh
[11:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> Hix yes stong w/f in dl-fldigi
[11:44] <Chetic> is there a guide on how to make a reliable camera window for the payload?
[11:44] <M0CJM_Neil> where are you Geoff-G8DHE? I am almost underneath the balloon and took me ages to decode packets
[11:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> s/n 24dB
[11:44] <fsphil> they're talking about which one loves Bieber the most
[11:44] <Chetic> and payload antenna, I still don't get how those are put together
[11:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> South Coast but decoded SSSDV no problems previously
[11:44] <fsphil> my lip reading may not be that good
[11:44] <eroomde> Chetic: 1) cut a hole in the box
[11:44] <eroomde> the end
[11:45] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> Chetic, http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:payloadantenna
[11:45] <Chetic> that might get a bit chilly
[11:45] <eroomde> 2) it's easy with some coax, some normal wire, a soldering iron and some tire strippers
[11:45] <Hix> chetic 1/4 wave is simply a length of wire ~147mm with 4 radials a bit longer
[11:45] <eroomde> Chetic: not that chilly really
[11:45] <Hix> tyre strippers ;p
[11:45] <LAGMonkey> to the M4
[11:45] <Chetic> eroomde: below specs.
[11:45] <eroomde> remember the air gets very thin so while it mayb be cold, it can't take that much thermal energy away from the boards
[11:46] <fsphil> dave needs more magmount antennas
[11:46] <fsphil> ssdv's getting a bit choppy
[11:46] <M0CJM_Neil> Think chase car just going under m4?
[11:47] <SpeedEvil> In thin air - conduction and radiation are basically unchanged. Convection is sharply reduced.
[11:47] <LAGMonkey> maybe heading to the A34?
[11:47] <SpeedEvil> You need to get to stupidly low pressures - well under a pascal - to affect conduction.
[11:47] <Maxell> PE2G: REHAB is kinda weak... SPEARS going fine http://i.imgur.com/5jop68E.png
[11:47] <fsphil> lol
[11:48] <PE2G> Maxell: Thanks for the info. I'll wat for CHAV
[11:48] <Maxell> But CHAV is 600 baud
[11:48] <fsphil> 600 baud is quite a challange
[11:48] <Maxell> How are you going to do that?
[11:49] <Chetic> I will just try to glue in a window or something
[11:49] <fsphil> I managed to decode some 600 baud data before from 400km away
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[11:49] <Chetic> damn it I don't like half-assing it
[11:49] <Hix> still impressed with 24dB with an antennae that is inside and pointing straight at a junction of 2 brick walls
[11:49] <fsphil> it is possible, you just won't decode that much
[11:49] <eroomde> Chetic: i don't think you need a window at all
[11:49] <eroomde> just a whole
[11:50] <eroomde> make it a snug hole to grab the body of the lens if you like
[11:50] <LAGMonkey> they must be on ether the A339 or A34
[11:50] <eroomde> hole*
[11:50] <Hix> wow you got SHUTIT Maxell ?
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[11:50] <PE2G> Maxell: Yes, it's difficult, but will give it a try
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[11:50] <fsphil> I've got chav on the waterfall
[11:50] <photonic> Hi
[11:50] <photonic> any news?
[11:50] <Chetic> eroomde: even for this?: http://www.wired.com/design/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/camera-raspberry-pi-wired-design-660x550.jpg
[11:51] <Hix> some balloons went up
[11:51] <photonic> yay
[11:51] <Chetic> it looks so sensitive
[11:51] <Chetic> :p
[11:51] <photonic> so chav is working then?
[11:51] <eroomde> probably
[11:51] <eroomde> cameras dissipate quite a lot of power, relatively
[11:51] <photonic> yeah, i found that out
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[11:51] <Maxell> Hix: with ease. check the elavation http://i.imgur.com/aqU6HC6.png
[11:51] <eroomde> if you were to just make a little hole in a polystyrene wall for it to look out of, and otherwise have it sandwich in polystyrene, i imagine it would get quite toasty at high altitudes
[11:52] <photonic> I did design a workaround, if you replace the xtal on a cheap camera the power requirements drop
[11:52] <Hix> photonic: http://spacenear.us/tracker/
[11:52] <Hix> Maxell: Sweet!!
[11:52] <photonic> i tested it on two B&W monochrome cameras and it verks
[11:52] <fsphil> photonic: http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[11:52] <Maxell> Hix: awwww yeah
[11:52] <Hix> that rooftop aerial has come good Maxell :D
[11:53] <photonic> I also found that cheap cameras + pyrolytic graphite = el cheapo radiation sensor
[11:53] <photonic> as in, £2.99
[11:53] <Maxell> Yep. Suffcient gain :-)
[11:53] <Chetic> eroomde: didn't know they dissipated that much
[11:53] <Maxell> And HABamp. The discone is deaf when I try to track HABs.
[11:53] <Hix> I think my earliest green was 3 degrees
[11:53] <eroomde> i don't know about the pi cam specifically
[11:53] <eroomde> but anything more than a few mW and it should keep itself plenty warm enough
[11:53] <Hix> we know a man who does though dont we
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[11:54] <fsphil> some say he eats raspberry pi's for breakfast
[11:54] <eroomde> i think that would be the sea
[11:54] <Hix> all we know is he's good at finding trees
[11:54] <Chetic> I really need a more thorough (i.e. dumbed-down) guide for the payload antenna
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[11:55] <eroomde> so, do you know what coaxial cable is?
[11:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Anything obvious missing for SSDV http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/LOHAN/Capture.JPG
[11:55] <Chetic> eroomde: yes
[11:55] <eroomde> cool
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[11:55] <eroomde> ok, so you have a middle core wire that you inject the rf signal into
[11:55] <photonic> Hm.. I know all about trees
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[11:55] <eroomde> and an outer metalic braid that you usually attach to gnd
[11:55] <photonic> One of my experiments ended up stuck in one
[11:56] <PE2G> Traces from CHAV on 434.0695
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[11:56] <Hix> Chetic: http://www.rtl-sdr.com/receiving-weather-balloon-data-with-rtl-sdr/
[11:56] <Chetic> eroomde: is the antenna gnd separate from the power supply gnd?
[11:56] <fsphil> Geoff-G8DHE: that signal isn't 600 baud
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[11:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> ?
[11:56] <eroomde> Chetic: not internally but you usually just connect it back to the radio module's rf gnd
[11:56] <fsphil> on the waterfall, it doesn't look like a 600 baud rtty signal
[11:56] <Hix> Chetic: and http://www.stratodean.co.uk/2013/04/the-gps-tracker.html
[11:56] <fsphil> the one on the right
[11:56] <eroomde> but if you were to do a contuinity text on say the ntx2 you'd find the ntx2's rf gnd and main gnd connected
[11:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes that s tuned to 434.495 which is CHAV is it not ? do agree it looks more like 50
[11:57] <fsphil> chav is 434.075
[11:57] <Chetic> eroomde: ah got it
[11:57] <Hix> SHUTIT geoff-G8DHE
[11:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> what is it s fallback are the fallback doesn't have SSDVC does it
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[11:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> idiot !
[11:57] <fsphil> the backup doesn't have ssdv nope :)
[11:57] <Maxell> Ok, REHAB also coming in strong
[11:58] <LazyL_M0LEP> 434.068.4 is current dial for CHAV here.
[11:58] <Hix> 434.495.6 for SHUTIT here
[11:58] <fsphil> I've got a signal that looks like chav, but it's not very strong
[11:58] <Chetic> eroomde: I think I get the idea now. thanks for being patient with a HW newb
[11:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> yes its shutit
[11:59] <Hix> Chetic: lookk at the two links i snet you, there are some good images there
[11:59] <Chetic> Hix: yeah I'm looking now. thanks!
[11:59] <cm13g09> craag_M0DNY_p: ping
[11:59] <craag_M0DNY_p> cm13g09: pong
[11:59] <Hix> how accurate is the distance in DL-FLdigi? Mine has varied max 4Km
[11:59] <eroomde> but it's best to Chetic np
[11:59] <eroomde> er
[11:59] <eroomde> Chetic: np
[11:59] <cm13g09> watch out - current predictions are right on top of you ;)
[12:00] <craag_M0DNY_p> cm13g09: That's the idea :)
[12:00] <cm13g09> lol
[12:00] <craag_M0DNY_p> Sat outside costa with 3x rx, 500mm telephoto and coffee
[12:00] <cm13g09> lol
[12:00] <cm13g09> I bet that's a sight to see
[12:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> tks fsphil
[12:00] <Hix> dark shades and briefcase craag_M0DNY_p ?
[12:01] <eroomde> Chetic: so basically the outser sheath is what you solder the 4 radial bits to
[12:01] <bambi> sleepy upu :)
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[12:02] <Hix> Upu_M0UPU: WAKE UP!!!
[12:02] <Hix> ;p
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[12:02] <PE2G> CHAV impossible to decode due to QRM
[12:02] <photonic> lol, just pinged one of the amateur radio guys over here
[12:02] <eroomde> and the central core you leave exposed and cut to th right length
[12:02] <eroomde> 165mm or whatever it is
[12:02] <craag_M0DNY_p> Hix: Nah, shorts and sunhats :)
[12:02] <Hix> heh
[12:02] <cm13g09> craag_M0DNY_p: got a photo?
[12:02] <craag_M0DNY_p> cm13g09: Will get one now..
[12:02] <Hix> a selfie with a 500mm requires very long arms
[12:03] <photonic> anyone got the address for the tracking page please?
[12:03] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> http://spacenear.us/tracker/
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[12:04] <cm13g09> craag_M0DNY_p: Solstice Services?
[12:04] <cm13g09> I know them well ;)
[12:04] <M0CJM_Neil> KFC There and a Harvester :-)
[12:05] <Hix> ahh right turn distance insreasing now
[12:05] <Hix> *increasing
[12:05] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> Looks like the predictions are working again now!
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[12:05] <craag_M0DNY_p> chrisstubbsM6EDF: We have the magnets on!
[12:06] <Benny_Boy> afternoon all
[12:06] <cm13g09> no, you don't want Larkhill....
[12:06] <Hix> chrisstubbsM6EDF: check the mailing list there has been a development
[12:06] <eroomde> chrisstubbsM6EDF: daniel switched the code back to downloading the whole dataset in advance
[12:06] <Benny_Boy> I'm having a blind moment and can't find teh wiki page that defined the radio protocol for transmission. Anyone have the URL handy?
[12:06] <eroomde> well, he wrote new code to do that
[12:07] <craag_M0DNY_p> cm13g09: http://t.co/YbCBCN8Ara
[12:07] <eroomde> but that's how it used to work
[12:07] <cm13g09> craag_M0DNY_p: lol
[12:07] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> Oo cool will have a read
[12:07] <Hix> Benny_Boy: http://goo.gl/HvZzO
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[12:07] <eroomde> Benny_Boy: http://ukhas.org.uk/communication:protocol
[12:07] <M0CJM_Neil> Jesus 30 deg in shack with cabin doors wide open
[12:07] <eroomde> too slow
[12:07] <cm13g09> M0CJM_Neil: get some aircon :P
[12:07] <M0CJM_Neil> i know was thinking about that :-)
[12:08] <photonic> Hard to believe that a Pi will work with ext temp that low
[12:08] <fsphil> our electricity provider increased prices just before this heatwave started
[12:08] <Benny_Boy> marvellous! Ta muchly! :)
[12:08] <Hix> nps
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[12:08] <eroomde> photonic: it's dissipating like 2 watts
[12:08] <eroomde> and the density of the air is very slow
[12:08] <PE2G> REHAB on 434.603 at 558 km: http://s10.postimg.org/bp1pb4khl/Screen963.jpg
[12:08] <eroomde> overheating is a bigger problem than getting too cold
[12:08] <fsphil> the Pi has on previous flights overheated
[12:08] <fsphil> and melted the insulation around it
[12:09] <Hix> overdone pie
[12:09] <eroomde> infact on one of dave's flights he melted some of the polystyrene that was in contact with the pi
[12:09] <fsphil> yes. best kind
[12:09] <fsphil> crispy pastry
[12:09] <fsphil> mmm
[12:09] <Hix> whats with "$$$$$SHUTIT,933,12\++CKK+33" does it ewvery so often
[12:09] <bertrik> which part of the pie did get too hot? and did you have a heatsink on it?
[12:09] <Hix> is it RFM22 reset?
[12:09] <fsphil> it was the ethernet controller bertrik, and yea. this was before the model A came out
[12:10] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> which one has SSDV?
[12:10] <fsphil> CHAV has ssdv
[12:10] <fsphil> stupid name
[12:10] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> OK, thanks
[12:10] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> looks like that one is not being decoded from PA land yet?
[12:10] <fsphil> I've got it on the waterfall
[12:10] <fsphil> but no decoes
[12:10] <fsphil> decodes*
[12:11] <fsphil> just UK and France atm I think
[12:11] <Hix> now $$$$$SHUTIT,HZ2,SS+C++#CC3#R
[12:11] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> I might just jump in the car then to attach the control cable
[12:11] <Hix> weird
[12:11] <PE2G> Wouter-[pa3weg]: Too much QRM for CHAV here
[12:11] <Benny_Boy> Question: I've nearly finished my code for my Pi launch and want to share it. WHere is the best place to put it? Do I need my own website? I'm using a heavily modified version of GPSD's gpspipe.
[12:12] <fsphil> most people use github to share code these days
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[12:12] <Benny_Boy> ah yeah, of course
[12:13] <Benny_Boy> It all works OK, but I'd be interested in general comments about what I've done.
[12:13] <Hix> any idea what alt prediction is for these flights?
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[12:13] <Hix> assume not going for max alt
[12:14] <Hix> oops, SHUTIT just went french $$ZUTIT,958,12:13:35,51.30177,-1.34428,24539,6,0*7237
[12:14] <fsphil> lol
[12:14] <Hix> alors
[12:15] <fsphil> broken wing mirror?
[12:15] <fsphil> I saw dave do it
[12:15] <fsphil> on the stream
[12:15] <fsphil> honest
[12:15] <M0CJM_Neil> Gone back to Spears
[12:15] <LAGMonkey> oopse
[12:15] <Hix> ? fsphil
[12:15] <LAGMonkey> naaa thats just the car reflection
[12:15] <fsphil> Hix: upu's car has a broken wing mirror
[12:16] <cm13g09> craag_M0DNY_p: you're definately in the right place.... ISH
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[12:16] <Hix> where are you seeing that fsphil
[12:16] <Hix> ahhh
[12:16] <fsphil> Hix: the chase car video was showing it a moment ago
[12:16] <Maxell> SHUTIT drifting upwards more and more...
[12:16] <Hix> is noe
[12:16] <Hix> *now
[12:16] <mfa298_M1ARI_P> cm13g09: that's what we're hoping
[12:16] <cm13g09> oh hi mike
[12:16] <cm13g09> they're quite well clustered as well
[12:17] <LAGMonkey> no broken mirror there
[12:17] <LAGMonkey> just reflections
[12:17] <fsphil> so it is
[12:17] <cm13g09> although Bulford Barracks seems to be on the cards....
[12:17] <fsphil> dave's in the clear
[12:17] <Hix> is Upu_M0UPU singing or yawning?
[12:17] <fsphil> singing Bieber songs
[12:18] <Hix> ah yes
[12:18] <LAGMonkey> i wonder if the media in amesbury have been alerted
[12:18] <Hix> hes a belieber
[12:18] <cm13g09> I've got time to go have lunch before anything happens, right?
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[12:18] <Hix> that was a sudden slow down
[12:19] <Darkside> photonic: induction?
[12:19] <photonic> so is Mr Floater still around?
[12:19] <photonic> Nope
[12:19] <Darkside> aww
[12:19] <Darkside> dissappoiny
[12:19] <LAGMonkey> cm13g09. should be 15 mins. but personally id be quick about it
[12:19] <Hix> pic-a-nic time?
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[12:19] <cm13g09> lol
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[12:19] <Hix> hello daveake
[12:19] <photonic> SP9U0B : Altitude 299m
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[12:20] <cm13g09> I need to sort myself out a tracking station in Essex
[12:20] <cm13g09> chrisstubbsM6EDF: would be pleased if I did, right?
[12:20] <Hix> are you near him cm13g09 i forgot
[12:20] <number10_M0MDB> where abouts in essex cm13g09 ?
[12:20] <cm13g09> Chelmsford
[12:20] <cm13g09> just North of
[12:20] <LAGMonkey> focus... those dots on the whidscreen sure are interesting
[12:20] <fsphil> right, gonna run and get some food
[12:20] <Maxell> Hix: muahha, I have 1 decode more than you! :)
[12:21] <Hix> hello from Waltham Abbey cm13g09
[12:21] <photonic> I came up with a fix for floaters. Launch a second balloon with a grabber and magnet, simplez.
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[12:21] <Maxell> Hix 207 (7%), RevSpace 208 (7%)
[12:21] <cm13g09> there's quite a few of us ;)
[12:21] <Hix> Maxell: my antenna is pointing straight at the intersection of 2 walls indoors
[12:21] <LAGMonkey> crotch vision?
[12:21] <cm13g09> at least I have an external wall to work with....
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[12:21] <Upu_M0UPU> yo
[12:22] <Upu_M0UPU> hows it going ?
[12:22] <Anon_Custard> A'noon
[12:22] <Hix> hi Upu_M0UPU
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[12:22] <Hix> good sig from SHUTIT
[12:22] <LAGMonkey> good chase upu
[12:22] <bambi> hu upu - looks good here in Australia
[12:22] <Upu_M0UPU> 32'C here
[12:22] <Upu_M0UPU> haha
[12:22] Action: cm13g09 goes to grab lunch
[12:22] <cm13g09> Don't pop it until I get back ;)
[12:22] <Anon_Custard> What's t latest news?
[12:22] <Hix> Upu_M0UPU: currently having a reception war with Maxell
[12:22] <Hix> he's winning
[12:23] <Upu_M0UPU> lol
[12:23] <Upu_M0UPU> 14 mins
[12:23] <Upu_M0UPU> should seperate
[12:23] <Darkside> 30km?
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[12:23] <Hix> hi LeoBodnar
[12:23] <Upu_M0UPU> long story
[12:23] <Upu_M0UPU> meant to be 31km
[12:23] <Upu_M0UPU> but..
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[12:23] <Hix> this the closkwork thing Upu_M0UPU
[12:23] <Upu_M0UPU> long sotyr
[12:23] <Upu_M0UPU> y
[12:23] <eroomde> jesus
[12:23] <Hix> you caled
[12:24] <Anon_Custard> Now on Android by the pool so no live feed
[12:24] <Upu_M0UPU> gopro issues
[12:24] <eroomde> that really is the worst idea since gas chambers
[12:24] <Upu_M0UPU> delayed launch
[12:24] <Upu_M0UPU> etc
[12:24] <photonic> Oh
[12:24] <number10_M0MDB> fsphil: are you there?
[12:24] <Hix> eroomde: heh
[12:24] <photonic> No, thats the worst idea since the atom bomb
[12:24] <LeoBodnar> Hi all!
[12:24] <number10_M0MDB> hi
[12:24] <fsphil> number10_M0MDB: for a few moments
[12:24] <eroomde> i think the former has done more harm
[12:24] <photonic> Hm
[12:24] <LeoBodnar> Any news Upu_M0UPU ?
[12:25] <Hix> thats the worst idea since someone thught to put pineapple on a pizza
[12:25] <photonic> LOL
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[12:25] <LAGMonkey> pineapple on pizza is gods gift!
[12:25] <photonic> created a channel. #worstideas
[12:25] <number10_M0MDB> ah ok - my ft817 is stuck in fine freq step with the sel knob - any ideas how to put ity course fsphil ?
[12:25] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> cm13g09, Yes I would! There is a guy called matt in boreham I have been helping out who is launching next weekend: http://bit.ly/1bx5Ezo
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[12:26] <LeoBodnar> What the news with Dave's payloads? Just drove home from launch. Everything still according to plan?
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[12:26] <fsphil> number10_M0MDB: menu 47, SSB STEP
[12:26] <daveake_> yes on plan
[12:26] <number10_M0MDB> nort sure we know what the plan is LeoBodnar
[12:26] <LeoBodnar> cool!
[12:26] <daveake_> we're in a layby
[12:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> LeoBodnar, Yup up and flying
[12:26] <number10_M0MDB> cheers fsphil
[12:26] <F5CT> 73s to all
[12:26] <fsphil> right, bbl
[12:26] <LeoBodnar> I was responsible for the static line :)
[12:27] <daveake_> Upu is hiding in his car away from the dangerous sun rays
[12:27] <LeoBodnar> cheers for the update
[12:27] <Darkside> the day-star, it burns him
[12:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> approaching 30Kms
[12:27] <GMT> Blimey Dave, you mean to say there's 'a plan' ...
[12:27] <revdjenk> Darkside: hee hee
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[12:30] <Maxell> Since "REHAB" is shorter then "SHUTIT" or "SPEARS", should it have more GPS updates?
[12:30] <LAGMonkey> rehab uploads to sat system
[12:31] <LAGMonkey> if i remember correctly
[12:31] <Maxell> Nobody is giving REHAB love :(
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[12:31] <Hix> Maxell: no-no-no
[12:31] <Hix> :)
[12:31] <eroomde> they tried to make me follow rehab i said
[12:32] <eroomde> oh too slow again
[12:32] Nick change: possum -> Guest86484
[12:32] <Hix> sorry eroomde
[12:32] <Maxell> :P
[12:32] Action: Hix gives thunder back
[12:32] <GMT> Im tracking REHAB, but not a good signal at the moment
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[12:33] <GMT> and just like that, the signals come back
[12:33] <Hix> Maxell: I'll get you back on the descent :)
[12:33] <Maxell> 31 kilometers
[12:33] <Maxell> True :(
[12:34] <Maxell> Your time will come :P
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[12:34] <Jess--M0VBR> what height is cutdown meant to happen?
[12:34] <Maxell> PE2G: hows it going up there?
[12:34] Action: Hix intends to spend some quality time in a sunny beer garden this afternoon / evening
[12:34] <Darkside> hrm
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[12:34] <Darkside> is the cutdown running on a timer?
[12:34] <Darkside> or something
[12:34] <eroomde> yes
[12:34] <Darkside> oh
[12:34] <Hix> clockwork thingy i think
[12:34] <Hix> oven jobbie
[12:34] <Darkside> so the balloon might burst first
[12:35] <PE2G> Maxell: Bad
[12:35] <LeoBodnar> FBT
[12:35] <Jess--M0VBR> I thought it was timer / altitude / freefall
[12:35] <LeoBodnar> Or rather BFT
[12:35] <mfa298_M1ARI_P> Success, We had a stranger in the car park managing to spot the balloon!
[12:35] <Maxell> PE2G: 600 baud to much man. Try SPEARS/SHUTIT/REHAB
[12:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Notice how the chase vehicles are staying well away from the path .....
[12:36] <PE2G> Maxell: I'm on SPEARS now. REHAB and CHAV lost in QRM
[12:36] <Hix> hope that Vulcan has cleared the airspace
[12:36] <Maxell> Ai Ai :(
[12:36] <Jess--M0VBR> I'm on rehab, it's come up out of noise here
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[12:38] <Benny_Boy> In the transmission protocol, is the checksum value delimited from the string by an asterix? So the end of the sentence might by "...temperature,humidity*checksum"
[12:38] <Maxell> Yep.
[12:38] <number10_M0MDB> yes
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[12:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh deep fade on all three
[12:38] <Benny_Boy> so I don't need a comma between humidity and the asterix
[12:38] <Benny_Boy> The wiki isn't too clear on that for me
[12:39] <Maxell> 33 kilometers up in the air
[12:39] <Hix> Benny_Boy: , to separate fields
[12:39] <Maxell> Burst at ~35 kilometers.
[12:39] <Hix> how to change nick on batc?
[12:40] <Benny_Boy> so it should be "...humidity,*checksum"
[12:40] <Hix> yes
[12:40] <photonic> Hmm. Probably a dumb question but has anyone considered a solar powered Lifter?
[12:40] <cm13g09> chrisstubbsM6EDF: Saturday did you say?
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[12:40] <GMT> Hix: type '/nick' followed by what you want it to be
[12:40] <photonic> Balloon to get it to 30km and then detach and fly on its own
[12:40] <eroomde> you mean floater?
[12:40] <photonic> No, Lifter
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[12:41] <photonic> you design it to fly at 30KM and above
[12:41] <Hix> GMT that just printed /nick Hix
[12:41] <eroomde> don't know what a lifter is sorru
[12:41] <photonic> ionocraft
[12:41] <Maxell> Hix: don't press enter, click submit.
[12:41] <Benny_Boy> Yes I have photonic, but decided against it based on the size of the solar cell and the difficulty in keeping it pointing at the sun
[12:41] <Hix> ahh
[12:41] <Hix> yes
[12:41] <photonic> Hmm
[12:41] <GMT> Hix: make sure that you type at the top of the box, not the middle line
[12:41] <Hix> got it
[12:41] <GMT> Hix@ '/nick Hix'
[12:42] <Jess--M0VBR> what is freq for ssdv on chav?
[12:42] <x-f> photonic, there isn't enough atmosphere to fly
[12:42] <Laurenceb_> so wtf are they flying?
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[12:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> 434.075 for SSDV but in the rqm FOR ME
[12:42] <Laurenceb_> other than stupidly named stuff
[12:42] <LazyL_M0LEP> 434.068.4 at the moment, Jess--M0VBR
[12:42] <Jess--M0VBR> cheers LazyL_M0LEP
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[12:42] <GMT> ping LeoBodnar
[12:42] <LeoBodnar> Big thing with some pyro charges inside LazyL_M0LEP
[12:43] <LeoBodnar> I'm here GMT
[12:43] <cm13g09> craag_M0DNY_p, mfa298_M1ARI_P you may need to head East
[12:43] <LeoBodnar> Sorry Laurenceb_
[12:43] <GMT> LeoB: any more launches planned for this coming week
[12:43] <Laurenceb_> ah
[12:43] <LeoBodnar> yes, sure!
[12:43] <craag_M0DNY_p> cm13 thanks
[12:43] <Laurenceb_> is it going to launch anything?
[12:43] <LeoBodnar> And a clockwork inside Laurenceb_
[12:43] <GMT> Okay, plenty of notice! I completely missed B-%!
[12:43] <craag_M0DNY_p> just gettng some iced coffee :)
[12:44] <GMT> B-5!
[12:44] <Laurenceb_> cutdown?
[12:44] <cm13g09> in fact....
[12:44] <Hix> SHUTIT pop
[12:44] <cm13g09> woah.... what happened there!
[12:44] <x-f> they're all coming down?
[12:44] <Upu_M0UPU> not popped
[12:44] <LAGMonkey> pop
[12:44] <LeoBodnar> Fired or pop?
[12:44] <Ottman001> REHAD GPS altitude rapidly descending.
[12:44] <LAGMonkey> oh noes
[12:44] <craag_M0DNY_p> seperation
[12:44] <Laurenceb_> wtf
[12:44] <craag_M0DNY_p> ?
[12:44] <Laurenceb_> something interesting is happening
[12:45] <Laurenceb_> why is SHUTIT level?
[12:45] <Laurenceb_> oh wait
[12:45] <Laurenceb_> nvm
[12:45] <LeoBodnar> SHUTIT 156m/s
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[12:45] <LeoBodnar> down
[12:45] <Hix> jesus $$$$$SHUTIT,1112,12:44:20,51.32566,-1.65012,34358,7,48*CB71
[12:45] <Hix> $$$$$SHUTIT,1113,12:44:30,51.31969,-1.66051,28483,0,32*3516
[12:45] <eroomde> that's about mach 0.6
[12:45] <Laurenceb_> yeah, dodgy gps
[12:45] <Upu_M0UPU> can anyone confirm if the payloads are together ?
[12:46] <Maxell> lol
[12:46] <Hix> looks like separation Upu_M0UPU
[12:46] <photonic> yay!
[12:46] <LeoBodnar> CHAV stopped updating Upu_M0UPU
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[12:47] <G7UXW-Kevin> $$CHAV,334,11:39:09,51.35181,-1.28618,14204,40,160,8,-27.6,-3.4,5.7,144.35*CC8C
[12:48] <Darkside> hrm
[12:48] <LeoBodnar> Can I panic or everything is still as planned?
[12:48] <Darkside> hrm
[12:48] <Upu_M0UPU> I think they are togther
[12:48] <eroomde> yes
[12:48] <eroomde> they look together
[12:48] <Upu_M0UPU> SPEARS and SHUTIT are in seperate payloads
[12:48] <LazyL_M0LEP> Hopefully...
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[12:48] <LeoBodnar> Whatever is transmitting is still together.
[12:48] <g8kbv> from the sound of the audio from CHAV, it's getting a good shaking about. Strong signal, but "crackely". Heard the frequency shift when it seperated.
[12:49] <eroomde> hitting some sheer around now possibly too
[12:49] <LeoBodnar> Has timer expired Upu_M0UPU ?
[12:49] <x-f> CHAV updated
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[12:50] <cm13g09> mind that aerodrome...
[12:50] <pjm_> is there a fault with fldigi in 600 baud mode?
[12:51] <pjm_> getting app lockups here on 2 different PC's
[12:51] <eroomde> it's presumably going to be coming down a bit faster than antitcipated so should fall short
[12:51] <eroomde> hopefully
[12:51] <cm13g09> although I have to admit that landing it on the runway at Thruxton would be an impressive achievement....
[12:51] <eroomde> interesting flying over ludgershall
[12:51] <eroomde> which is where kingsley landed a few weeks ago, but that was ludgershall west sussex
[12:51] <Hix> cm13g09: not if they're in mid-race it wouldnt
[12:52] <cm13g09> Hix: agreed
[12:52] <g8kbv> dlfldigi working ok here on win7, but the scrolling bug seems to prevail at times. Chav audio sounds a little broken, but still getting some good decodes.
[12:52] <Hix> cm13g09: phew nothing on today
[12:52] <cm13g09> It's an impressive achievement if there's nothing on
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[12:52] <Hix> back on the road again
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[12:54] <mikestir> hmm. I just discovered why I never get any decodes. pulseaudio "monitor" source seems to pitch shift everything slightly, messing up the timing
[12:54] <mikestir> anyone else seen that?
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[12:54] <Hix> SHUTIT still strong but not getting greens at all now
[12:55] <pa3weg-work> now @ work, they closed the highway exit :(
[12:55] <pa3weg-work> no CHAV signal anymore?
[12:55] <Hix> descending pa3weg-work
[12:55] <pa3weg-work> but it should still be there?
[12:55] <Maxell> pa3weg-work: it's under my horizon, so if yours
[12:55] <Hix> 14Km
[12:55] <Maxell> pa3weg-work: still transmitting
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[12:56] <G7UXW-Kevin> $$CHV,56,12:55:41,51.3091,-1.69263,2787,53,110,8-3.0,-13.9,-46,182.32'342
[12:56] <pa3weg-work> OK, I will recheck then
[12:56] <Maxell> Hix: it's now your time to get some revenge :P
[12:57] <Hix> drifting really bad now Maxell
[12:57] <Hix> green yay
[12:57] <Hix> red :/
[12:57] <pjm_> where do the images get uploaded to btw?
[12:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[12:57] <Hix> http://ssdv.habhub.org/ pjm_
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[12:58] <pjm_> tnx
[12:58] <LeoBodnar> I don't understand anything, are they still attached? When does backup timer expire? Has pyro fired?
[12:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oww the drift on shutit
[12:59] <LeoBodnar> Timer should be about now.
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[12:59] <Hix> shutit stbilising
[12:59] <Hix> *stabilising
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[13:00] <GMT> odd how Thruxton airfield and Netheravon airfield appear on the Spacenear map, but Boscombe Down does not!
[13:00] <Hix> damn partials
[13:00] <Hix> MOD request?
[13:01] <pa3weg-work> well, the cable is in, but I missed all the fun due to the F*ing highway closure
[13:01] <Hix> lots of special kit there
[13:01] <M0CJM_Neil> Just had an Avro Lancaster pass over my house heading north west at about 2000 feet!
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[13:01] <Hix> wher you @ M0JSN
[13:01] <GMT> The Lanc has just done a flypast at RAF Odiham
[13:01] <Hix> ahh
[13:01] <Hix> en way back from goodwood?
[13:01] <Hix> *on
[13:02] <pa3weg-work> right...back to home
[13:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> Blimey they are all drifting every which way!
[13:02] <Hix> yup up now
[13:02] <M0CJM_Neil> Just woke me up, had an Apache helicopter rattle the windows earlier
[13:02] <GMT> no, it did a flypast near me at Northolt at 1pm, then Odiham, now going to Yeovilton in Somerset
[13:02] <iainSGX_garden> Nice to have the video streaming working on the chase, hope it holds out
[13:02] <Hix> really difficult to get greens on shutit now
[13:02] <Jess--M0VBR> that lanc takes off around 10 miles away from me here, see ti quite often along with the other members of the bbmf
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[13:04] <craag_M0DNY_p> Are they seperate?
[13:04] <Hix> shutit really bad signal now
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[13:04] <Hix> assume something in the way [apart from the house]
[13:05] <photonic> what are the odds of one landing in someone's pickup truck
[13:05] <Upu_M0UPU> craag_M0DNY_p
[13:05] <Upu_M0UPU> are you close to us ?
[13:06] <cm13g09> Upu_M0UPU: they will be
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[13:06] <craag_M0DNY_p> Upu_M0UPU: yes
[13:06] <Hix> SHUTIT totally gone now :/
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[13:07] <craag_M0DNY_p> What can we do to help? :)
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[13:08] <Jess--M0VBR> lost all payloads in lincs now
[13:08] <iainSGX_garden> Dunno wether giving camera control to a little girl was a good idea tho! :)
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[13:09] <davep> IIRC the girl is Lester's daughter.
[13:09] <g8kbv> CHAV signal getting weak now, even on the beam. expected of course.
[13:10] <iainSGX_garden> I jest, shes doing very well under the circumstances.. ;) Very bumpy road...
[13:11] <Hix> Maxell: defeated :/
[13:11] <Hix> 289 vs 354
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[13:13] <g8kbv> nice picture of thruxton.
[13:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> all gone
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[13:14] <g8kbv> what rf power out, on chav? Can't hear it any more, but it's still visible on the fldigi waterfall, not that anything is decoding any more.
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[13:15] <g8kbv> having said that, total loss of signal now.
[13:15] <Willdude123> Well this is weird.
[13:15] <Laurenceb_> right under it
[13:15] <craag_M0DNY_p> VISUAL
[13:15] <Willdude123> On my bbb if I bring the radio pin high, the frequency is lower than if it were low.
[13:16] <cm13g09> well done craag_M0DNY_p
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[13:16] <Laurenceb_> should be down now
[13:16] <LazyL_M0LEP> Hmmmm.... Is that a rifle rage?
[13:16] <LazyL_M0LEP> range, even...
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[13:17] <Laurenceb_> lol looks like it
[13:17] <g8kbv> Well done guys..
[13:17] <photonic> DOH!
[13:17] <Guest64979> clap clap clap
[13:18] <Guest64979> Was hoping they
[13:18] <craag_M0DNY_p> 86m away
[13:18] <Guest64979> would land in someone's swimming pool. :-)
[13:18] <craag_M0DNY_p> heading on foot
[13:18] Action: LAGMonkey celebrates
[13:18] <cm13g09> craag_M0DNY_p: nice one
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[13:19] <photonic> Do they have green LEDs on them?
[13:19] <LeoBodnar> I want to know if plane is still attached to he box.
[13:19] <Willdude123> Dammit.
[13:20] <Willdude123> Anyone know what could be wrong? I guess I should just invert them.
[13:20] <iainSGX_garden> one just updated
[13:20] <eroomde> LeoBodnar: i beleive that's the likely scenario
[13:20] <Willdude123> eroomde: Why the op?
[13:21] <Hix> Willdude123: got the divider set up right?
[13:21] <LeoBodnar> It had an igniter with two independent firing circuits...
[13:21] <Willdude123> Yeah. It worked with my 'duino
[13:21] <photonic> Maybe the igniter broke?
[13:21] <photonic> Cold, vibration, etc#
[13:22] <Willdude123> Well. I'm using 5v power, but 3v3 gpio.
[13:23] <Hix> are you getting 3v3 on a dmm
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[13:23] <Hix> hi Cyclops
[13:23] <Cyclops> Hi
[13:24] <Willdude123> No I know it's 3v3 io
[13:24] <Cyclops> Im preparing a launch for this August, and looking for a radio receiver; what do you think about the funcube?
[13:24] <Hix> but is is showing as 3v3 witha dmm
[13:24] <Willdude123> I guess it wouldn't hurt to change the power pin to a 3v3 one.
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[13:24] <Willdude123> I don't have one.
[13:24] <Maxell> Hix: \o/
[13:24] <Darkside> Cyclops: they are great
[13:24] <Maxell> :)
[13:24] <Hix> Maxell: :/
[13:25] <Hix> Cyclops: Upu's shop has a HAB amp designed by darkside which makes them even beter
[13:25] <Hix> *better
[13:25] <Cyclops> Nice, so ill have to follow the ballon with the car not to loose the signal?
[13:25] <Hix> you going to go with his shield thn?
[13:25] <Hix> *then
[13:25] <number10> someone the otherday refered to the darkness habamp - Darkside
[13:26] <Darkside> wat
[13:26] <Willdude123> Is there a max current on the ntx2 or can I connect it to raw 5v?
[13:26] <Hix> Cyclops: best to if you want to recover
[13:26] <Maxell> Cyclops: funcube is fine. If you are chasing $10 RTLSDR will do
[13:26] <Hix> ntx2 has inbiult reg
[13:26] <number10> you new nick?
[13:26] <Cyclops> So which antenna to use for the car?
[13:26] <number10> +r
[13:26] <Darkside> Cyclops: you can get small magbases
[13:26] <Jess--M0VBR> Cyclops: I never have any problems with the funcube pro+ using just a 1/4 wave whip
[13:26] <GMT> Cyclops: or go with a standard radio scanner and a HAB tracker prog on a smartphone
[13:26] <Hix> most people use a magmount and a yagi for finding on the grond
[13:27] <Darkside> GMT: uhh not the best idea
[13:27] <GMT> worked for me last weekend!
[13:27] <Darkside> i wouldnt use the smartphone decoding app as a primary
[13:27] <Hix> Cyclops: this is highly regarded for chasing http://goo.gl/ywQ7u
[13:27] <Cyclops> And to have a idea, how far will I loose the signal from the balloon?
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[13:28] <Hix> if you are outside you should not really have a lot of problems
[13:28] <Cyclops> Thanks Hix !
[13:28] <eroomde> depends on the receiver
[13:28] <eroomde> if you have line of sight though, it's not much effort to get a few hundred km range
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[13:28] <Maxell> Yeah, any magmount antenna will do for 70 cm.
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[13:28] <Cyclops> I'll launch on open field
[13:28] <Maxell> Don't worry to much about the gain, a yagi could be nice for on the ground,
[13:28] <Cyclops> Not high buildings only little towns
[13:28] <Maxell> as the signal would be the hardest to pick up
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[13:29] <Darkside> Cyclops: where ar you launching from?
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[13:29] <Hix> Cyclops: http://stratosvision.com/docs/Mountain_Yagi_434_4Element.pdf
[13:29] <Hix> for hunting the payload on the ground
[13:30] <Willdude123> I can't figure this out.
[13:30] <Willdude123> I guess I can just swap them in the code or do rv in dl-fldigi.
[13:30] <Hix> Darkside: iirc southern Spain
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[13:30] <Darkside> ahh
[13:30] <Cyclops> Ahhg it's horrible to chat from the mobile phone
[13:31] <Hix> yeah, really clumsy Cyclops i hate phoones for irc
[13:32] <Willdude123> What does the 0b before binary data in python mean?
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[13:33] <Cyclops> Gimme a second, ill reconnect as I can't read new messages
[13:33] <craag_M0DNY_p> has it been recoveted?
[13:33] <craag_M0DNY_p> we hace
[13:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> hi all
[13:33] <SP9UOB-Tom> another 30m tree :-(
[13:33] <Hix> hi SP9UOB-Tom
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[13:33] <mikestir> Willdude123: It means its binary data, like 0x before hex
[13:33] <Hix> got it craag_M0DNY_p
[13:33] <Willdude123> AH right.
[13:34] <craag_M0DNY_p> oh :(
[13:34] <Hix> trees?
[13:34] <Hix> stream showing a few of them
[13:34] <Willdude123> Can I compensate for the reversal in dl-fldigi?
[13:34] <craag_M0DNY_p> was that a questipn?
[13:34] <Willdude123> Yes
[13:34] <SP9UOB-Tom> Hix: mine PICO not LOHAN :-)
[13:35] <Jess--M0VBR> or just flick to lsb instead of usb
[13:35] <craag_M0DNY_p> oh no, we have position 51.23161 -1.6333
[13:35] <fsphil> hmm I missed the fun
[13:35] <fsphil> they didn't separate?
[13:35] <craag_M0DNY_p> but no sign of it
[13:35] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> I always get a smile on my face when someone talks about a funcube ;)
[13:36] <iainSGX_garden> That'd be your dirty mind! lol
[13:36] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> I´m back home from an almost useless trip to work
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[13:36] <Willdude123> fsphil: Can I compensate for my microcontroller's reversal of high and low, in dl-flidi.
[13:36] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> nope, a funcube looks like this: http://ukamsat.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/funcube-1-flight-model-image-credit-wouter-weggelaar-pa3weg.jpg
[13:36] <iainSGX_garden> LSB instead of USB
[13:36] <fsphil> your microcontroller shouldn't be reversing Willdude123
[13:36] <Willdude123> Like when I bring the pin high, the radio goes low.
[13:36] <fsphil> not if you're using a uart
[13:36] <Jess--M0VBR> swap the code for mark & space
[13:36] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> hence the smile
[13:37] <Willdude123> fsphil: I'm not yet.
[13:37] <Willdude123> Just plugged it in, and it does that.
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[13:37] <iainSGX_garden> Willdude: I had that and when I checked I was tuned into an image as I was close, NOT the main frequency.
[13:37] <Willdude123> Is that normal.
[13:37] <fsphil> if you're donig this in software, then fix your software :)
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[13:37] <Willdude123> It is just blink code.
[13:37] <Cyclops> Lets see now
[13:38] <fsphil> then you've nothing to worry about
[13:38] <Hix> CHAV image 80 looks like its in a tree
[13:38] <daveake_> ssdv updating now
[13:38] <Willdude123> Is it normal then?
[13:38] <daveake_> I see green
[13:38] <mikestir> nice tree
[13:38] <fsphil> you landed in ireland?
[13:38] <daveake_> off on foot
[13:38] <Willdude123> And it won't do it when I use the uart/
[13:38] <Hix> daveake_ you got thjat pole with you ;)
[13:38] <Willdude123> ?
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[13:39] <fsphil> Willdude123: shouldn't
[13:39] <Hix> Cyclops: http://stratosvision.com/docs/Mountain_Yagi_434_4Element.pdf is a self biuld for hunting on the ground
[13:39] <fsphil> otherwise it wouldn't be able to connect to anything without an interface
[13:39] <Willdude123> fsphil: Why does it do it now though?
[13:39] <Cyclops> Ok so I now have receiver and antenna. I'll be using Arduino UNO as flight computer and aeromidelism cameras
[13:39] <Cyclops> GPS and radio emitter is left
[13:39] <fsphil> Willdude123: check the hardware
[13:40] <fsphil> Willdude123: the led could be switched by a transistor, which might reverse it
[13:40] <Willdude123> But it's the radio though.
[13:40] <Cyclops> Thanks Hix I've saved the link
[13:40] <Hix> nps
[13:40] <photonic> OK. SO lessons learned. 1) Duplicate everything three times, 2) Use optocouplers, 3) Use optical AND radio in case either fails
[13:40] <Hix> did you get the magmount link?
[13:41] <Cyclops> Yes I did
[13:41] <Hix> cool
[13:41] <photonic> 4) Add tree eject mechanism
[13:41] <fsphil> Willdude123: it really does depend on your hardware. the cpu itself could be doing the reversal
[13:41] <fsphil> or it could be something on the board
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[13:41] <photonic> I know a guy who lost his $1400 drone in a tree
[13:41] <Cyclops> And it's possible to send sensors data like GPS?
[13:42] <Hix> recovery stream could be improved :)
[13:42] <eroomde> photonic: duplication is usually a bit excessive on unmanned airborne systems
[13:42] <photonic> hm.. True, BUT if it is lose the payload or duplicate it (Or use 3 payloads)
[13:42] <eroomde> it's sufficient to just use good practices in design and construction of acbles and connections
[13:42] <eroomde> 99% of the time
[13:42] <photonic> Also relevant, static buildup. See 2)
[13:42] <Hix> Cyclops: $$CHAV,334,11:39:09,51.35181,-1.28618,14204,40,160,8,-27.6,-3.4,5.7,144.35*CC8C
[13:43] <Hix> is a string received earlier
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[13:43] <eroomde> i have not really ever noticed static buildup to be a problem
[13:43] <Cyclops> Lunch time! See you later. Thanks for the help!
[13:43] <Laurenceb_> i see it in usb cables
[13:43] <eroomde> but isolation is good for avoiding ground loops
[13:43] <photonic> Hm.. really?
[13:43] <Hix> Cyclops: b4 you go http://ukhas.org.uk/communication:protocol
[13:43] <Hix> give oyu a better idea
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[13:44] <eroomde> ssdv
[13:44] <eroomde> trees!
[13:44] <eroomde> hooray
[13:44] <eroomde> all the good bits of a dave flight
[13:44] <Hix> looks like 3 in trees eroomde
[13:45] <eroomde> video feed is interesting
[13:45] <LAGMonkey> yea....interesting
[13:45] <photonic> nyet!
[13:46] <photonic> at least you know which trees
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[13:47] <photonic> Is REHAB still airborne?
[13:47] <Hix> all down
[13:47] Action: Jess--M0VBR ponders adding a bleeper to my next payload (find the bleeping tree)
[13:47] <Hix> well when i say down, 3 in trees
[13:47] <photonic> HAHA
[13:47] <photonic> Beeep. Beeep.... BLEEPING TREES...
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[13:48] <Hix> heh
[13:48] <x-f> how high, dave-tree?
[13:48] <Hix> suffrin sacetuers
[13:49] <photonic> Also an interesting idea I came up with, an active balloon damper.
[13:49] <dave-tree> In tree
[13:49] <dave-tree> Trees being felled
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[13:49] <g8kbv> howabout using a handheld GPS to home in on it's presumably now static location, assuming it's still broadcasting that info.
[13:49] <photonic> The idea is that if the balloon pressure exceeds a set limit, a small amount of pressure is tapped off using a fuel cell
[13:49] <iainSGX_garden> I love that, obviously no hippes go HA
[13:49] <cm13g09> oh, have we had another tree landing?
[13:49] <Hix> std practice g8
[13:49] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> Jess--M0VBR, I was talking about this the other day, a beeper that activated beloe x meters and turns off overnight to avoid annoyance incase it gets stuck in a populated area sounds reasonable
[13:49] <photonic> H2 + half a fuel cell FTW
[13:49] <iainSGX_garden> habbing cos trees seem to die quite often
[13:50] <iainSGX_garden> I hope they hug them first/.
[13:50] <photonic> ROFL
[13:50] <Jess--M0VBR> could probably drive it straight from a pwm output on an ardiono too chrisstubbsM6EDF
[13:50] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> Fair idea, I was going to add one to my cheapo board for matts flight next weekend
[13:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> dave-tree: my yesterdays pico is also in the tree :-(
[13:50] <Jess--M0VBR> pwm --> piezo
[13:51] <photonic> Provides both power for the avionics AND a way to control altitude
[13:51] <Hix> didn't understand that earlier SP9UOB-Tom :/
[13:51] <Hix> you got international rescue on call out?
[13:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> Hix: ;-) Radim's pico is also waiting for rescue
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[13:52] <Hix> oh deR
[13:52] <Hix> *dear
[13:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> Hix: is also in 30m tall tree
[13:52] <SP9UOB-Tom> deer ;-)
[13:52] <Hix> damn
[13:52] <GMT> is there a UKHAS record for longest time between landing and recovery
[13:53] <Hix> think fsphil is still waiting to claim that
[13:53] <Jess--M0VBR> believe it stands at 12 weeks
[13:53] <Jess--M0VBR> for a payload recovered from the seam
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[13:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> i have 15m sonde-killer but it is uselles under such tall tree
[13:53] <iainSGX_garden> Seem to have given up on the streaming.
[13:53] <Hix> SP9UOB-Tom: you need 2 ice axes and some crampons and a 60m rope
[13:54] <GMT> any more flights this weekend?
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[13:54] <Jess--M0VBR> probably B-6 to B-8 GMT
[13:54] <Jess--M0VBR> knowing LeoBodnar
[13:54] <Hix> heh
[13:54] <x-f> hehe :)
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[13:54] <SP9UOB-Tom> Hix: or chainsaw :)
[13:54] <Hix> ;p
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[13:55] <GMT> I missed out on B5 during the week, didn't read about launch until 10am next day
[13:55] <Hix> SP9UOB-Tom: call next payload $$$STIHL
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[13:56] <x-f> $$HSQVRN
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[13:56] <Hix> heh
[13:56] <Hix> image 85 shows movement
[13:56] <Hix> CHAV
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[13:57] <LAGMonkey> movement and loss of packets. maybe recovered?
[13:57] <Hix> right I have an important appointment with a very sunny beergarden. Later peoples
[13:57] <LAGMonkey> cya hix
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[13:58] <Jess--M0VBR> 86 recovered
[13:58] <SP9UOB-Tom> Hix: LOL :-)
[13:58] <jarod> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1JYHNX8pdo&&hd=1&autoplay=1&fs=1 - Asiana Pilots names from KTVU News
[13:59] <Jess--M0VBR> or dammed close
[13:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> $$$CHAINSAW
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[13:59] <SP9UOB-Tom> 5 of 6 mine picos was landed in the trees
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[14:02] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> Haha 86 is awesome
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[14:02] <GMT> jarod: excellent!
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[14:10] <bambi> we wait to get confirmation of recoverey....
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[14:12] <Maxell> jarod: yeah i saw it on reddit. looool
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[14:14] <fsphil> hah, loving image 86
[14:16] <LazyL_M0LEP> ;)
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[14:16] <cm13g09> yup
[14:16] <cm13g09> 86 is good ;)
[14:16] <Ottman001> One recovered aircraft on the live feed.
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[14:16] <daveake_> RECOVERED
[14:17] <bambi> video stream shows the plane recovered
[14:17] <cm13g09> :)
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[14:22] <Jess--M0VBR> video stream showing australian recovery
[14:23] <Ottman001> I'm seeing the world from a whole different angle.
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[14:23] <fsphil> the video stream has stopped
[14:23] <fsphil> oh that was my internet
[14:23] <LazyLeopard> Ah. An image from ground level, so they must've got it down. ;)
[14:24] <bambi> careful careful images are being watched in Australia *smiles*
[14:24] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[14:25] <fsphil> weirdly enough, the last SSDV flight in australia did infact return upside down images
[14:25] <bambi> yes you are correct
[14:25] <Ottman001> Anyone there able to say if SPEARS worked? Or CHARM?
[14:25] <fsphil> they didn't separate
[14:25] <fsphil> do I'm guessing no
[14:25] <fsphil> so*
[14:26] <fsphil> unless they tethered them
[14:26] <Ottman001> Could have been another problem unrelated.
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[14:26] <LAGMonkey> exit
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[14:26] <fsphil> say please
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[14:27] <fsphil> some nice images
[14:27] <fsphil> hopefully they got some good video
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[14:31] <daveake_> lol at image 86
[14:31] <bambi> well its 00:30am here (tomorrow) so its good bye from Australia thank you all for the images and the video feed
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[14:31] <cm13g09> daveake_: we'va all being loling at it
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[14:32] <fsphil> nite bambi
[14:32] <fsphil> you found life daveake_
[14:32] <craag_M0DNY_p> ello
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[14:33] Nick change: craag_PUBWARDS -> craag
[14:33] <craag> ls
[14:33] <GMT> first one at the pub orders the drinks; last one there pays for them
[14:33] <daveake_> brb beer
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[14:34] <craag> lol
[14:34] <chrisstubbsM6EDF> well earned beer
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[14:35] <cyclops> hi
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[14:37] <cyclops_> can you read me?
[14:38] <craag> yep
[14:38] <cyclops_> nice
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[14:38] <cyclops_> im using iphone app
[14:38] <craag> calm after the storm here though
[14:38] <cyclops_> i see it works
[14:39] <cyclops_> yeah, its quiet here
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[14:47] <craag> Sooo finding a payload is easy, pub not so much
[14:47] <cm13g09> lol
[14:47] <cm13g09> craag: you lost the pub?
[14:47] <fsphil> no pubsnear.us?
[14:47] <cm13g09> lol fsphil
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[14:48] <daveake_> its ok ive taken over
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[14:50] <G7UXW-Kevin> does anyone know what frequancies SP9UOB uses ???
[14:51] <daveake_> last time I follow Upu to a pub :p
[14:51] <fsphil> lol
[14:51] <fsphil> his beer sense failed?
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[14:55] <photonic> yo
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[14:58] <Upu_M0UPU> at the pub :)
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[15:00] <photonic> Lol
[15:01] <photonic> Managed to extricate LOHAN from the tree?
[15:02] <Upu_M0UPU> yep
[15:02] <Upu_M0UPU> saw
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[15:03] <photonic> Hm
[15:03] <photonic> Care to share any tree extracting methods?
[15:03] <LazyLeopard> as in chain-saw?
[15:04] <photonic> because if I do find this guy's drone i will need to get it back
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[15:04] <photonic> short of using a high power laser to cut the drogue lines
[15:04] <SpeedEvil> Basically standard tree-surgeon stuff.
[15:05] <Upu_M0UPU> looks like GoPro 3 shit down
[15:05] <SpeedEvil> Tree-climbing equipment, pole-cutters, ...
[15:05] <SpeedEvil> beavers.
[15:06] <photonic> Nah, use Photonic's patent pending TreeSafe (tm)
[15:06] <photonic> tree climbing robot
[15:06] <LazyLeopard> trained squirrels?
[15:06] <photonic> Nail gun?
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[15:06] <SpeedEvil> You use the nail-gun to train the squirrels.
[15:06] <photonic> Ew
[15:06] <photonic> Now now
[15:07] <photonic> Nah, I'd use three rockets at 120 degree angles to eject the payload
[15:07] <photonic> Or one rocket on a rotating gimbal
[15:08] <Upu_M0UPU> http://i.imgur.com/8Lxdmgn.jpg
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[15:08] <photonic> So do I spend £100 on a vacuum pump for my fusor or put it towards a new laptop?
[15:08] <photonic> It can also be used to test HAB payloads
[15:08] <photonic> Crap, my battery is at 4%
[15:09] <photonic> "Your battery is low." No shit sherlock
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[15:09] <photonic> At least the payloads are safe, thats good
[15:09] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> your battery i........ ;)
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[15:10] <Upu_M0UPU> GoPro 3's
[15:10] <photonic> gopro's have a horrible bug in the wifi
[15:10] <Upu_M0UPU> we tried to swap it for a 2 this morning but that didn't work
[15:10] <photonic> that can cause hideous interference issues
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[15:12] <GMT> excellent pic UPU!
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[15:27] <Upu_M0UPU> thanks for tracking everyone
[15:27] <Upu_M0UPU> much appreciated
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[15:28] <Maxell> \o/
[15:28] <Maxell> I had a blast
[15:28] <fsphil> I had lunch, but I was watching remotely :)
[15:29] <Upu_M0UPU> so hot
[15:29] <Upu_M0UPU> 32.5'C
[15:29] <fsphil> finally cloudy here, bit cooler
[15:29] <cm13g09> Upu_M0UPU: I was not designed to operate at much about 25C
[15:30] <daveake_> Was certainly a fun flight
[15:30] <daveake_> Unless you were a tree, and aren't anymore
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[15:31] <fsphil> branching out?
[15:31] <LazyLeopard> What sort of tree, and how tall was it?
[15:31] <daveake_> Dunno, and not very
[15:31] <LazyLeopard> Need to recruit some tree-climbing folk into HABbing ;)
[15:31] <daveake_> Too thin to climb
[15:32] <LazyLeopard> Ah, right.
[15:32] <LazyLeopard> Just thinning out the woodland a bit, then. ;)
[15:32] <daveake_> indeed :)
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[15:38] <GMT> how's the beer?
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[16:12] <Laurenceb_> /suicide
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[16:19] <SpeedEvil> http://www.shapeways.com/model/207257/3-axis-camera-gimbal-for-gopro-back-cage.html?li=curatedproductGroup&materialId=6
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[16:33] <StaHi> What's the deal? Did this thing already launch, or are we still waiting?
[16:35] <x-f> which thing?
[16:38] <LeoBodnar> Here, this one
[16:39] <Maxell> The one next to this right
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[16:40] <Maxell> StaHi: LOHAN team launched already.
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[16:53] <cyclops_> hi
[16:53] <Maxell> hai
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[16:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Gah SKY+ boxes to clever by half - they see a network cable fault and they disable the ethernet port, however there us reset in the menu
[16:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> so you replace the cable and press reset
[16:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> doesn't find network
[16:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> so you go on a cabling marathon to find the problem, only to find that the Box has to be powered OFF before it re-enables the port... reset is only a software reset
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[16:59] <cyclops_> so I should use one of these http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=83
[17:00] <cyclops_> with a funcube dongle?
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[17:12] <Babs____> How did you get on today daveake1 ? I had to do house stuff and step away from the channel
[17:13] <daveake1> Yeah all recovered
[17:13] <Babs____> Nice. Did the mechanisms all work as planned?
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[17:16] <Willdude123> Got ntx2 on my BBB
[17:17] <Willdude123> On a serial port.
[17:19] <daveake1> Babs____, Welll mine all did :)
[17:20] <Babs____> You're a pro - will look out for the write up!
[17:21] <daveake1> Will do. When I've recovered :)
[17:23] <Willdude123> However, I set the baudrate to 50 and it txes very quickly https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9477294/rtty.wav
[17:23] <Willdude123> I'm using pyserial
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[17:32] <bertrik> hm, sounds much faster than 50 baud
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[17:37] <bertrik> more like 120 baud
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[17:47] <arko> good morning
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[17:49] <gonzo__> like the ssdv images during recovery!
[17:49] <cm13g09> Willdude123: pyserial and the hardware have no obligation to actually run at the speed you ask for!
[17:49] <cm13g09> they *should*
[17:49] <arko> gonzo__: image 86 looks cool :P
[17:49] <Willdude123> cm13g09: Why not though?
[17:50] <Willdude123> Does this mean the whole project is fucked?
[17:50] <cm13g09> but if the hardware multipliers/dividers don't let it work
[17:50] <cm13g09> I don't see any obvious reason for it not to support it
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[17:51] <Willdude123> Uhuh
[17:51] <cm13g09> but I know, for example, FTDI chips have trouble with really slow baud rates
[17:51] <Willdude123> So basically it doesn't work
[17:51] <arko> Upu and daveake great work :)
[17:51] <Willdude123> And won't.
[17:51] <cm13g09> Willdude123: I can't be certain
[17:51] <Willdude123> Dammit
[17:51] <cm13g09> without delving into the hardware reference manual
[17:51] <Willdude123> There's evidently no way.
[17:52] <Willdude123> Hmm
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[17:52] <Willdude123> I'll ask some who's dealt with UARTs such as daveake.
[17:52] <cm13g09> probably best
[17:55] <arko> LeoBodnar: wanted to get a better look at your B-5 data so i threw it into excel http://imgur.com/a/ErzTd
[17:55] <arko> very nice data
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[17:56] <Willdude123> However, I set the baudrate to 50 and it txes very quickly https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9477294/rtty.wav
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[17:57] <Willdude123> ^with beaglebone black.
[17:57] <Willdude123> Has anyone dealt with uarts before/
[17:57] <Willdude123> Also, I kinda want to keep it at 50 baud/
[17:57] <Willdude123> Is there some way to do it or is it all or nothing?
[17:58] <craag> Computer UARTS often don't run as low as 50 baud
[17:58] <Willdude123> It doesn't even do 300
[17:59] <Willdude123> By the looks of it.
[17:59] <maze> but they do multiples of 50
[18:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> The LOHAN flight Object movie and Pano with KMZ file http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/LOHAN/
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[18:02] <Willdude123> maze: Well it obviously can't do 300 either so...
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[18:05] <craag> Willdude123: From the AM335x Reference Manual p3447
[18:05] <craag> Baud rate from 300 bps up to 3.6864 Mbps
[18:06] <craag> It'll do 300/600/1200 according to that.
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[18:12] <daveake_> The recovery dance - http://imgflip.com/i/2ekpu
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[18:13] <arko> dance!
[18:13] <mfa298_M1ARI_P> wow, I think it's hotter in my flat that it was outside
[18:14] Nick change: mfa298_M1ARI_P -> mfa298
[18:14] <arko> aesome :)
[18:14] <arko> any video of the glider?
[18:14] <daveake_> oh yus
[18:15] <daveake_> I need moar bandwidth
[18:15] <arko> haha
[18:15] <daveake_> Uploading the launch timelapse at the mo
[18:15] <arko> i tried to stay awake but it was almost 3am
[18:15] <arko> looked like a very fun flight :)
[18:15] <daveake_> aw
[18:15] <daveake_> yup
[18:15] <arko> which one was upu's tiny tracker?
[18:16] <daveake_> SHUTIT
[18:16] <arko> rude
[18:16] <arko> i was just asking a question
[18:16] <daveake_> :)
[18:16] <arko> :P
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[18:18] <arko> but that's awesome!
[18:18] <arko> all of them worked
[18:18] <arko> good feels
[18:18] <craag> I was impressed by the pi stuffed into the plane.
[18:18] <arko> yeah thats a bit mind boggling
[18:18] <daveake_> oh boy that was a tight fit
[18:19] <arko> but i can see how if you remove the connectors around it
[18:19] <craag> I bet!
[18:19] <arko> just going to be a fat plane
[18:19] <arko> hah
[18:19] <daveake_> had to remove the RCA on that one
[18:19] <arko> yeah
[18:19] <arko> that thing is like 1/4 of the width
[18:19] <daveake_> Backup plan was another pi with almost all the connectors removed
[18:20] <daveake_> But then I'd have lost the IMU
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[18:24] <Babs____> Is there a site with all of this on? Or are people looking at the live launch streaking photos?
[18:24] <Babs____> *streaming
[18:24] <Babs____> The former would be scary
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[18:28] <daveake_> I'll post to the list when I've got all my stuff uploaded
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[18:31] <Babs____> Excellent
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[18:59] <craag> Photos from today: https://www.thecraag.com/photos/index.php?album=lohan-hab-chase
[19:01] <daveake_> Oh in-flight shots nice :)
[19:02] <mfa298> nice
[19:03] <mfa298> those are some nice shots of the balloon.
[19:04] <mfa298> now we need another flight so you can get a shot of the burst from the ground!
[19:04] <craag> Yeah, and a steadier tripod.
[19:04] <craag> 2000g balloon right?
[19:05] <daveake_> yup
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[19:08] <Babs____> They have a real feel of those NASA vids that track their rockets into the upper atmosphere
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[19:09] <Babs____> Although given they are photos taken from the ground of something at high altitude perhaps this is unsurprising
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[19:09] <Babs____> :-|
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[19:15] <arko> wow thats a nice shot craag
[19:15] <craag> Up around 30km I reckon.
[19:16] <craag> Was about 37km 3d distance from us.
[19:17] <craag> Tripod was swaying like crazy with the mirror-momentum, so I dropped the extension on it... and lost the balloon..
[19:18] <craag> Need a sextant-like device to show us where it should be next time.
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[19:19] <craag> Definitely worth trying for a next time :) looked tiny in the viewfinder but has come out really well!
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[19:21] <WillDuckworth> good work craag
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[19:23] <Babs____> Top shots
[19:24] <mfa298> need to know who that member of the public was to spot it for us again
[19:24] <Babs____> The work people are doing on here is amazing
[19:26] <mfa298> here's some of my pictures from earlier (as they come from the camera) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/m2haj2n5v20nkv9/CQ_NNobQjB
[19:27] <Laurenceb_> anyone here have access to SPIE?
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[19:29] <craag> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pekMIs7F_Y
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[19:31] <chrisstubbs> Heh
[19:31] <mfa298> although I think one was left running as I couldn't lock my car at the pub
[19:34] <Laurenceb_> did that fly?
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[19:35] <mfa298> I think it might have been more a case of "falling with style"
[19:35] <SP9UOB-Tom> Lol: 30Ah :-) can be 60 days up there :-) http://www.bto.pl/B2CProdukt.aspx?id_artykulu=29887
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[19:37] <SP9UOB-Tom> in English: http://www.gmbattery.com/Datasheet/ER/ER48660M.pdf
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[19:41] <jc_> So, what's the best link to see how the Lohan launch went?
[19:42] <jc_> Oops - the Spears launch I meant.
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[19:46] <Iain_G4SGX> Nice battery, 300g tho
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[20:03] <fsphil> there's always one
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[21:05] <Upu> nice shot craag
[21:05] <Upu> ping mfa298
[21:05] <mfa298> Upu: pong
[21:05] <craag> :)
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[21:06] <Upu> who was the other person there craag, you mfa298 and ?
[21:06] <craag> Murray
[21:06] <craag> he's new
[21:06] <Upu> does he come on here ?
[21:06] <craag> but now hooked :)
[21:06] <craag> not yet
[21:06] <Upu> ok
[21:06] <Upu> http://i.imgur.com/hrelEza.jpg
[21:06] <mfa298> but I think that's being worked on :D
[21:07] <Upu> hey mfa298
[21:07] <fsphil> haha, dave's pose
[21:07] <Upu> good to meet you all today
[21:08] <mfa298> made for a good day out, much more fun than tracking from home!
[21:08] <fsphil> +1
[21:08] <craag> Yeah great to meet you, I was a bit exhausted at the end tbh, and I didn't even launch!
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[21:09] <Upu> your exhausted !
[21:09] <fsphil> that's a lot of balloon
[21:09] <Upu> yeah it came back with most of it
[21:09] <Upu> amazed the final speed was so low
[21:09] <fsphil> I missed that, what was it?
[21:10] <Upu> 3kg payload + ~ 1.5kg of latex
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[21:10] <Upu> not sure
[21:10] <Upu> wasn't excessive
[21:11] <Iain_G4SGX> Been looking at the Ublox specs, whats a good value for the de-coupling capacitor? 100nF is mentioned but then so is 1nF.
[21:11] <LeoBodnar> Good day indeed Upu ! XD It was nice to meet you there
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[21:11] <chrisstubbs> Iain_G4SGX, 100nf should be fine
[21:11] <Upu> btw craag thx for avoiding the pics of the saw :)
[21:11] <Upu> hey Leo yes great to meet you
[21:12] <Iain_G4SGX> tnx
[21:12] <chrisstubbs> make sure you are decoupling your power supply output if using a regulator too
[21:12] <Upu> 100nF is gine Iain_G4SGX
[21:12] <Iain_G4SGX> Using a 40Amp linear PSU set for 3.3v for now, bit overpowered but its all I got on the ench..
[21:12] <Iain_G4SGX> bench
[21:13] <fsphil> hehe
[21:13] <fsphil> that'll do
[21:13] <Upu> http://i.imgur.com/cfwKrF4.jpg
[21:13] <Upu> cheers for coming along Leo
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[21:16] <Iain_G4SGX> I found an ols stash of regulators, got about 50 of these.. http://uk.farnell.com/linear-technology/lt1528ct-pbf/ic-v-reg-ldo-3-3v-to-220-5-1528/dp/1273583 if anyone wants any.
[21:16] <cm13g09> craag: I think you need a s/launch/lunch/ in an earlier line...
[21:16] <Iain_G4SGX> Work at 3.3v ok
[21:16] <craag> cm13g09: It was launch.. but we didn't lunch either now I think about it
[21:17] <cm13g09> lol
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[21:23] <cm13g09> SP9UOB-Tom: it's OK, nobody does!
[21:24] <SP9UOB-Tom> ...but my Picos really loves them :-(
[21:26] <x-f> you need to start using cutdowns on your picos
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[21:27] <x-f> if (max_alt > 1000 && alt < 400 && speed == 0 && sats > 5)
[21:27] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[21:27] <mfa298> sharp knife on a long pole seems to work well - although you need a long enough pole
[21:27] <Lunar_Lander> x-f, the voltage at the TX is 3.3V, measured it today
[21:27] <chrisstubbs> Lunar_Lander, guess what I got an e-mail about today...
[21:28] <Lunar_Lander> balloon found?
[21:28] <Lunar_Lander> or so
[21:29] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: im almost ready - remote control via RFM22 :-)
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> chrisstubbs, what was it about?
[21:30] <chrisstubbs> http://bit.ly/1akkMi5 that glados voice generator we were talking about months ago... it finally processed my request
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[21:31] <SP9UOB-Tom> x-f: every 5 minutes im txing morse id, then is small gap, when i sending rfm22 native packet. If remote controller is in range, i can fire cutdown
[21:31] <photonic> hi
[21:31] <cm13g09> chrisstubbs: I'm working on some kind of globaltuner
[21:31] <x-f> SP9UOB-Tom, sounds interesting!
[21:31] <Lunar_Lander> chrisstubbs, cool!
[21:32] <chrisstubbs> Oh nice one!
[21:32] <cm13g09> not quite sure when/if it'll happen
[21:32] <cm13g09> but I'm going to give it a go
[21:33] <LeoBodnar> Run out of MAX-6es Upu :)
[21:34] <eroomde> have you considered a different addiction?
[21:35] <eroomde> must be costing a lot to fund your HABit
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[21:35] <arko> hey man, whatever gets you high
[21:35] <eroomde> perhaps crack
[21:35] <mfa298> apparently there might be one in the middle of france somewhere if you need one
[21:36] <arko> like your data LeoBodnar http://imgur.com/a/ErzTd
[21:36] <LeoBodnar> THis is not going to end well XD
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[21:37] <LeoBodnar> arko: yes, very informative flight. I still don't know what made internal temperature rise so much. I tend to think it was just heating by the Sun as dark solar panel has been wrapped around the tracker body
[21:38] <arko> very possible
[21:38] <arko> did your previous flights not heat up as much?
[21:38] <arko> also, that foil ground plane
[21:38] <arko> connected to those wires
[21:38] <arko> which sinks heat back into the gnd plane of the pcb
[21:41] <LeoBodnar> Maybe. Also internal pressure is more noisy. Balloon works like a giant low freq microphone when it is fully inflated. When it was floppy it did not pick up extra "noise"
[21:42] <arko> hah
[21:43] <eroomde> 0.1Hz cutoof LPF?
[21:43] <LeoBodnar> Would be interesting to stick a piezo mic onto a ballon and listen...
[21:43] <arko> ohH!!
[21:43] <LeoBodnar> *balloon what's up with recent o's shortage?
[21:43] <arko> send back fm
[21:43] <arko> hear the crackling
[21:44] <LeoBodnar> TX on FM band? XD
[21:44] <arko> nah
[21:44] <arko> audio
[21:44] <arko> not digital
[21:44] <eroomde> i love crackling
[21:44] <mfa298> if you stick a microphone in a balloon you might need a new name for it, maybe NSA
[21:44] <LeoBodnar> and deep fades like on SW in the night
[21:44] <arko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55D-ybnYQSs
[21:45] <LeoBodnar> XD
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[21:47] <cm13g09> Upu: I think you might get a small order from me soon
[21:47] <cm13g09> specifically, a HABAmp
[21:48] <cm13g09> chrisstubbs: I'm about to order the SDR and the needed adaptors
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> chrisstubbs, awesome :)
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> it is not that clear sounding as in the game itself
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> but it is cool
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[21:50] <mfa298> according to the news just now it's been the hottest day so far in england
[21:50] <cm13g09> mfa298: I can believe that
[21:50] <mikestir> cm13g09: I'm also working on a web based sdr platform. possible overlap?
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[21:50] <cm13g09> mikestir: possiblu
[21:51] <mikestir> I'm not quite ready to release code, but almost. Likely to be releasing under AGPL
[21:51] <cm13g09> ok
[21:51] <cm13g09> that's cool
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> ah damn
[21:51] <mikestir> currently I have it demoding multiple simultaneous carriers from an rtlsdr and streaming to mp3
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> youtube hangs at logging in
[21:51] <cm13g09> nice
[21:51] <mikestir> and AJAX waterfall
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> "A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation."
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[21:52] <cm13g09> well mikestir I'm just embarking on the journey into tracking
[21:52] <cm13g09> having done a fair amount of "armchair tracking" so far
[21:52] <mikestir> same here really
[21:52] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> mikestir: nice project!
[21:52] <mikestir> but I've been thinking about writing a decent remote radio platform for a while
[21:53] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> Sounds like a WebSDR, but then from ground up
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[21:53] <cm13g09> mfa298: lol
[21:53] <mikestir> it is. I was going to to use gnuradio, but I ended up writing a simpler flowgraph structure from scratch
[21:53] <mikestir> it's all C++ and very pluggable
[21:53] <mikestir> you can instantiate multiple receivers and move them between tuners without stopping the flow
[21:54] <mikestir> aim is to put in digimode decoders as well
[21:54] <cm13g09> nice
[21:54] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> sounds good! I own multiple SDRs and have been running the first WebSDR betatest apart from the ¨official¨ authors one
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[21:55] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> but that is closed source unfortunately
[21:55] <Upu> super cm13g09
[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> does youtube fail at login for someone else here too?
[21:56] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> and the worlds first sattelite band WebSDR, but all stopped when construction workers F*d up all the antennas and cabling
[21:56] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> but I would be very interested to try it
[21:56] <mikestir> I remember they had no antenna for ages because they couldn't get a hole drilled in the wall or something
[21:56] <Upu> what was the signal like from SHUTIT and REHAB ?
[21:56] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> that would probably be me or the Twente one
[21:57] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> I run the Delft WebSDR, famous for the VLF receiver and satellite 2m and 70cm segments
[21:57] <chrisstubbs> Both were pretty good for me upu
[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL why was it called SHUTIT?
[21:58] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> --> the horror here: http://www.pa3weg.nl/photos/GSDamage/
[21:58] <chrisstubbs> seemed to lose REHAB half way thought though, think I was just confusing myself with frequencies
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[21:58] <Upu> cheers
[21:58] <chrisstubbs> Were they both rfm?
[21:58] <Upu> none of the payloads today had proper antennas
[21:58] <chrisstubbs> Interesting
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[21:59] <Upu> rehab had 3 ground planes but only in 180'
[21:59] <mikestir> Upu: I had decodes from SHUTIT up here for the first time - turned out pulseaudio was distorting the audio loopback
[21:59] <Lunar_Lander> Wouter-[pa3weg], yea
[21:59] <Lunar_Lander> looks bad
[21:59] <mikestir> put it through a wire instead and it was fine
[21:59] <Upu> SHUTIT had the radials all squished up in a ball
[21:59] <mikestir> right down to the blue line using the HAB amp and my home made yagi pointing roughly south
[21:59] <Upu> cool mikestir :)
[22:00] <Upu> CHAV was a proper 1/4 wave but not held in place properly
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[22:00] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> the worst part was that they used my RG-58 as binding rope
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[22:00] <LeoBodnar> Upu: have you ordered guitar strings yet?
[22:00] <Upu> yeah I have Leo
[22:01] <LeoBodnar> They are the dog danglers for radials
[22:01] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> any way, working on getting back the experimentation platform there, so that could be a good location to test new radio kit
[22:01] <SP9UOB-Tom> night all
[22:01] <Upu> didn't finish the conversation btw LeoBodnar whats up with the chip antennas ?
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[22:02] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> and also new software. I was planning an automatic HAB decoder, maybe mikestirs software could help?
[22:02] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> My plan for now was USRP --> multiple tuned downsampled streams --> fifo buffer --> DL-FLDIGI
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[22:03] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> but any more sophisticated stuff is welcome!!
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[22:03] <LeoBodnar> To start from I think their radiation pattern assumes they will be used horizontally.
[22:03] <mikestir> that's pretty much what I'm aiming for but with the decoders integral
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[22:03] <mikestir> since there seemed to be appetite for that when I discussed it on here the other week
[22:04] <LeoBodnar> And you really need the network analyser to tune their match on a bizarre shaped ground plane like mine (and yours I suspect)
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[22:05] <LeoBodnar> But they are nice and small - horses for courses
[22:06] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> I have had that idea for over 5 years, but I can not program...
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[22:06] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> so when the original WebSDR code came around, I was the first to put that up...
[22:07] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> but that is closed source still...
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[22:07] <mikestir> brb. I may be able to demo, but I need to go up in the loft to swap the antenna over
[22:07] <mikestir> It seems I unplugged the habamp earlier and forgot to plug the omni back in
[22:08] <Upu> odd LeoBodnar never had an issue
[22:08] <Upu> they work in any orientation
[22:09] <LeoBodnar> double helix Sarantel is better than either chip or whip XD
[22:10] <eroomde> yep but bust
[22:10] <Upu> well don't get use to them Sarantel went bust
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[22:10] <cm13g09> brb, kernel upgrade
[22:10] <Upu> also they weigh more than 3 of your payloads
[22:10] <Lunar_Lander> Upu, so there won't be any sarantel antennas anymore?
[22:10] <Upu> no Lunar
[22:10] <Upu> well
[22:10] <Upu> no idea tbh
[22:10] <Upu> someone may buy the IP
[22:11] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[22:11] <Lunar_Lander> that sounds bad
[22:11] <Upu> they are good
[22:11] <Lunar_Lander> are there similar antennas?
[22:11] <Upu> but they are fragile
[22:11] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:11] <Upu> not that I'm aware of
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[22:11] <Lunar_Lander> what about the spiral antenna of the vaisala RS-92?
[22:12] <eroomde> 3that would work
[22:12] <eroomde> but it's nice to have a reliable source
[22:12] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:15] <LeoBodnar> 3D print your own
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[22:16] <LeoBodnar> With conductive plastic
[22:16] <fsphil> it's hard to resist
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[22:19] <Benny_Boy> Hello again! :) Telemetry question: what is a sensible rate for telemetry updates? Or better yet what is a reasonible max? Is transmitting every GPS sentence too much?
[22:19] <eroomde> well, work out the baud rate you'd need to transmit one ukhas string every 1s
[22:20] <eroomde> that should answer your q
[22:20] <LeoBodnar> What are you trying to achieve? Benny_Boy
[22:20] <Lunar_Lander> well on my flight it was 22 seconds between strings due to the 50 baud transmission taking so long
[22:20] <fsphil> I'd say as much as your chosen baud rate will allow
[22:21] <LeoBodnar> If your balloon is traveling at very high speed than you need a lot of fast updates
[22:21] <fsphil> even if that means repeating strings
[22:21] <fsphil> though at that point, a faster baud doesn't make much sense
[22:21] <Benny_Boy> So there is no upper limit on the receivers. It's just down to how fast I can sling the bits out? (Don't worry, I'm not trying to break some record, just trying to understand if transmitting every sentence is sensible)
[22:22] <eroomde> yes
[22:22] <LeoBodnar> Every GPS sentence is usually each second, no way
[22:22] <eroomde> but your baud rate is governed by your link budget
[22:22] <Benny_Boy> Is there a 'standard' rate? E.G every 15 seconds?
[22:22] <eroomde> whatever 50 baud allows
[22:22] <eroomde> if using rtty
[22:22] <LeoBodnar> However just basic Lat/Lon/Alt at 600 might work 1/sec
[22:23] <SpeedEvil> Every 15s or so seems to work out about it in many cases
[22:23] <LeoBodnar> Don't set it as a target design goal
[22:23] <Benny_Boy> I understand. :)
[22:23] <LeoBodnar> It'll be whatever it'll be
[22:23] <Benny_Boy> Thanks for the advise! :)
[22:24] <fsphil> most flights use 50 baud, but 100 baud would probably work just as well
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[22:24] <LeoBodnar> I think 5..15 sec per sentence is most typical
[22:25] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:25] <Lunar_Lander> as I said mine took 22 sec
[22:25] <Lunar_Lander> my new one takes about 17
[22:25] <LeoBodnar> Tracker webpage does not like when there are many thousands of datapoints on it at once
[22:26] <fsphil> interrupts are a useful tool to maximise airtime
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[22:30] <Benny_Boy> time for some late night tinkering then in my C code
[22:30] Action: fsphil is python tinkering
[22:30] <fsphil> it's odd
[22:30] <fsphil> so odd
[22:31] <Benny_Boy> never tinkered there, so I'll take your word for it.
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[22:38] <Benny_Boy> So how do you calculate the transmission time for a string like "hello" at 50 baud? Wiki says that baud is the number of symbols per second and that a symbols can be multiple binary digits.
[22:38] <SpeedEvil> It's simpler than that.
[22:38] <SpeedEvil> 50 baud is really a bit a second
[22:38] <Upu> ping craag glad you got me slagging of radio hams on that video :)
[22:39] <fsphil> for rtty anyway
[22:39] <SpeedEvil> With 9 time periods per char - 7 and stop/start bits - you just divide 50/9 to get chars/s
[22:39] <fsphil> more complicate modes can have multiple bits per symbol
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[22:39] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[22:39] <qyx_> Benny_Boy: depends on modulation, using binary FSK 1 baud is 1 bit per second
[22:39] <LeoBodnar> Upu: why glider din't separate?
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[22:39] <SpeedEvil> LeoBodnar: embarrasment?
[22:39] <Upu> cord didn't cut when the ignitor thing went off
[22:39] <Laurenceb_> lol did the "glider" fail?
[22:39] <Laurenceb_> never saw that coming
[22:40] <Upu> it ignited
[22:40] <SpeedEvil> How heavy was the whole thing?
[22:40] <Upu> then on the way down the pin that holds it shook free and the glider tangled up so sadly didn't separate then either
[22:40] <Upu> 3kg
[22:40] <Upu> +1.8kg of latex
[22:40] <Upu> which it kindly brought back
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> recycling?
[22:41] <fsphil> I'm sure Upu will send it to you if you want :)
[22:41] <Upu> Dave has it but can be arranged
[22:42] <LeoBodnar> Hmm, it didn't look like something NASA would do (or at least show it does)
[22:42] <LeoBodnar> the igniter-cord duo
[22:42] <Benny_Boy> I thought it was 8 bits per char and 1 extra bit either end. 10 in total
[22:42] <LeoBodnar> Yes Benny_Boy
[22:42] <Benny_Boy> or is that just down to how you decide to send the data?
[22:43] <LeoBodnar> 50bps = 5char/sec on 8N1 or 7N2
[22:43] <Benny_Boy> so why 50/9? Why not 50/10 for chars/s
[22:43] <fsphil> Benny_Boy: rtty can have 8-bit or 7-bit ascii
[22:43] <fsphil> (or 5-bit baudot ,, but ignore that)
[22:43] <LeoBodnar> 7N1 is 50/9=...
[22:43] <Benny_Boy> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[22:44] <Benny_Boy> :)
[22:44] <fsphil> unless you have two stop bits
[22:44] <fsphil> but that's optional
[22:44] <fsphil> so, 1 start bit, 7 or 8 data bits, 1 or 2 stop bits
[22:45] <LeoBodnar> Personally I think 7N2 is more robust because it prepends start bit with two stop ones but it's a matter of opinion
[22:45] <mikestir> out of interest, why does no one use baudot for HAB? it has all the neccessary characters for a UKHAS string doesn't it?
[22:45] <fsphil> LeoBodnar: fldigi does seem to decode better with 2 stop bits
[22:45] <fsphil> especially at higher baud rates
[22:46] <Benny_Boy> I'll bear that in mind
[22:46] <fsphil> mikestir: missing *
[22:46] <fsphil> it also has two character sets, and if it switchs to the wrong one the rest of the string is bad
[22:46] <LeoBodnar> Yes, why nobody flies proper Baudot with proper funny baudrate and spacing?!
[22:47] <mikestir> yeah I suppose the risk of switching charsets is a real one
[22:47] <fsphil> a bad character with ascii will still ruin a string, but it should still be mostly readable
[22:47] <LeoBodnar> And receives it on a proper big noisy teletype smelling of machine oil and hot insulation
[22:48] <fsphil> there is also hatty, a 4-bit mode that nobody supports :)
[22:48] <LeoBodnar> Upu has deserted it! :)
[22:48] <fsphil> it has multiple character sets too but doesn't stick to any
[22:48] <mikestir> when I was playing with the RFM22 I wrote something that encoded 5n2 baudot into 8 bits and transmitted it using the packet engine
[22:48] <fsphil> so it wouldn't have that baudot flaw
[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> btw today I met one half of a band from Hamburg called Tonbandgerät
[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> which means "Tape Recorder"
[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:49] <fsphil> press play on tape
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[22:50] <LeoBodnar> Which side was it?
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> :P good question
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> A probably because it was lead guitar and lead singer
[22:50] <LeoBodnar> cool!
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[22:51] <fsphil> that moment when you hear the tape crunching in the player, and when you press eject not all tape is released....
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> http://s.gullipics.com/image/e/x/9/5yv91p-ksdsmh-xbxg/IMG0510.jpeg
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:51] Action: fsphil has bad memories of tapes
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[22:51] <LeoBodnar> Zigzagged inside
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> yeah not only MC but also VHS
[22:52] <LeoBodnar> The one that your borrowed for just one day.
[22:52] <fsphil> oh yea, vhs
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> but I think the most crucial tapes were the ones on Voyager, Galileo and other probes
[22:53] <fsphil> I had a vhs player on for the first time in about 5 years
[22:53] <fsphil> and it still worked
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[22:53] <fsphil> the first thing I had to do was rewind a tape, and remembering why I watch stuff on computer now
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:54] <LeoBodnar> It was probably the last time it got turned on
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[22:55] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:55] <fsphil> and probably won't be used again for another 5 years
[22:55] <gonzo__> I was going to fly a baudot hab, but there were issues with the * chr I think it was
[22:55] <Lunar_Lander> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-efQbRVZrs
[22:56] <fsphil> I believe there is a hack in dl-fldigi's hab mode, that treats the # as a * for baudot
[22:56] <gonzo__> we tried that didn;t we
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> xD I just notice that the repair shop radio there runs "Simple Minds - Don't you forget about me"
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> you can hear it just before he plugs in the VCR
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[22:58] <mfa298> from some recent experience going through a bunch of tapes and cd-rs tape seems to be the better medium for keeping data.
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[22:59] <mfa298> most of the CD-Rs aren't readable (these are about 13 years old)
[22:59] <fsphil> most of my old tapes and floppies still work
[23:00] <fsphil> early CDR disks and writers where not that good
[23:00] <gonzo__> exhumed my cassette deck a while ago
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[23:00] <mfa298> I've not tried many floppies recently but I think most are fine (apart from those that have been put into a bad drive)
[23:00] <gonzo__> going through some of the tapes that I enevr found on cd
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> we have a VCR/DVD combo
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> sadly the VCR part is broken
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[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> if you insert a tape there is some sort of fault that causes it to turn off
[23:02] <mfa298> I picked up a cassette deck at the last rally I went to and was surprised at how good cassette quality is with a decent deck
[23:02] <Lunar_Lander> and you can only get the tape out by power cycling
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[23:15] <Willdude123> Hi
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[23:16] <fsphil> Altitude
[23:16] <Willdude123> My BBB tracker is fuc*** because the uart doesn't go down to 50 baud afaik
[23:16] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[23:16] <Willdude123> Either that or I set it up wrongly.
[23:17] <Willdude123> Not even sure it can do 50.
[23:17] <Willdude123> There's little docs on the uart.
[23:17] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[23:17] <Lunar_Lander> you want to control the NTX2 via uart?
[23:18] <fsphil> many don't do 50
[23:19] <Willdude123> Not sure it can do 300.
[23:19] <Willdude123> Yeah lunar
[23:19] <Willdude123> http://hipstercircuits.com/enable-serialuarttty-on-beaglebone-black/
[23:19] <Willdude123> This is what I followed.
[23:19] <mfa298_> I think even the AVR will struggle with 50 unless you drop the cpu clock down a lot
[23:20] <Laurenceb_> fucking hipsters
[23:20] <Laurenceb_> id gas the lot of them
[23:20] <Willdude123> 300 is pretty impossible
[23:21] <Willdude123> By the lpooks of it.
[23:21] <mfa298_> in that case you probably have to bit bang it, but that requires realtime stuff
[23:22] <mfa298_> so for linux based stuff you might need to do that in kernel space
[23:22] <Willdude123> Laurenceb_, no swearing in the chan please, and please don't feel the need to express your extremist views.
[23:22] <Willdude123> Angstrom is an rtos
[23:22] <Willdude123> Bit bang?
[23:22] <qyx_> angstrom rtos?
[23:23] <Willdude123> I think so.
[23:23] <mfa298_> bitbang is the method usually done on the avr/arduino
[23:23] <qyx_> isn't it linux based?
[23:23] <mfa298_> even if it's an rtos for that level timing I suspect you need to do that in kernel space rather than userlane
[23:23] <mfa298_> s/userlane/userland/
[23:24] <Willdude123> Okay
[23:24] <Willdude123> Dammit I don't wanna write rtty code all over again.
[23:24] <Willdude123> Also, on the radio high and low are inverted for some reaason.
[23:25] <Laurenceb_> Willdude123: but i do feel the need
[23:25] <qyx_> 50 baud is probably doable from userspace on linux
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> I am wondering why tying up an UART for the NTX2
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> any digital pin will do
[23:25] <mfa298_> if I suspect right you really don't want to be doing stuff in kernel space until you really understand C well. Get it wrong and it's kernel panic time.
[23:26] <craag> Upu: Can cut that bit off if you want (slagging off bearded hams)
[23:26] <fsphil> Lunar_Lander: if a uart is available, it makes sense to use it
[23:26] <Lunar_Lander> well on mine I got the GPS
[23:26] <Laurenceb_> hipsters are a symptom of everything wrong with the world
[23:26] <Willdude123> Well it isn't really available is it?
[23:26] <Lunar_Lander> why would you have to use the UART?
[23:26] <mfa298_> Lunar_Lander: the idea is there's some hardware designed for converting bytes into serial data why not use it rather than having to tie up the main cpu doing that
[23:26] <Laurenceb_> look at the instagrammed photo crap
[23:26] <fsphil> I didn't say have to
[23:26] <Laurenceb_> they can die in a fire
[23:26] <Lunar_Lander> hm well
[23:26] <fsphil> *if* it is available, then use it :)
[23:27] <fsphil> it's hardware designed to do that precise job
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> just was thinking, the NTX2 has no internal processor, right?
[23:27] <Willdude123> Because it won't run at even 300 baud
[23:27] <fsphil> aye
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[23:27] <mfa298_> on devices with 1 uart it makes more sense to use that for gps and bitbang the ntx2
[23:27] <fsphil> indeedy
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> so what the code by Upu does in the tutorial is just what mfa298_ said right?
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> that the values and so on are converted into keying the NTX2
[23:27] <fsphil> that's bit banging
[23:28] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:28] <fsphil> it's doing in software using fixed timing, what the uart does in hardware
[23:28] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:28] <fsphil> well the uart also has a receiver
[23:28] <fsphil> but I'm ignoring that
[23:28] <Willdude123> So what should I do?
[23:28] <fsphil> that baud rate do the specs day it supports?
[23:28] <fsphil> say*
[23:29] <Willdude123> There is no docs on the uart, as far as google knows.
[23:30] <craag> Willdude123: I sent you a ref earlier
[23:30] <mfa298_> there should be some sort of datasheet for it.
[23:30] Action: mfa298_ has generally found buying stuff that doesn't have a datasheet is a waste of money
[23:30] <craag> The underlying chipset does 300/600/1200/...
[23:31] <Willdude123> 300 is fine,
[23:31] <craag> mfa298_: There's a datasheet, it's 4500 pages!
[23:31] <Willdude123> Or would be.
[23:31] <Willdude123> If it worked.
[23:31] <craag> So the hw can do it, how to get it working is the difficult bit.
[23:31] <mfa298_> sounds like a useful datasheet then, although you might also want to invest in a laser printer
[23:31] <craag> anyway gn
[23:32] <Willdude123> night
[23:32] <qyx_> save the trees, don't print it
[23:33] Action: mfa298_ should probably invest in a dotmatrix printer, I've still got a box of tractor feed paper
[23:34] <Willdude123> hmm
[23:34] <Willdude123> So what should be my plan of attack.
[23:34] <Willdude123> ?
[23:35] <Willdude123> Can anyone do me a huge favour and see if the above wav file I posted earlier decodes at 300 baud?
[23:35] <Willdude123> Or someomne provide a sample of 300 baud sao I can hear if it is.
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[23:41] <fz> Hey ppl, sorry for the obvious question but anyone knows any alternative for UHU Por Glue? It seems to be tricky to find in USA.
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[23:53] <SpeedEvil> fz: for what?
[23:53] <fz> Styrofoam
[23:54] <SpeedEvil> fz: to glue styrofoam together?
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[23:55] <fz> SpeedEvil: Yup
[23:56] Action: SpeedEvil sighs.
[23:56] <SpeedEvil> Sometime I found a lovely 3M adhesive selector.
[23:57] <SpeedEvil> Things that will not work - anything with a strong solvent base - expanded polystyrene has a solvent resistance about as much as a 12 year-old glue shiffer.
[23:57] <SpeedEvil> Epoxy can work.
[23:57] <SpeedEvil> As can duct tape.
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[23:58] <fz> 3M sprays seems to be a good option but those are expensive
[23:58] <fz> Yeah, when in doubt& duct tape.
[23:58] <SpeedEvil> There are a number of construction adhesives too that are designed to stick stuff - including polystyrene
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