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[00:08] <arko> IT LANDED!
[00:08] <daveake> woohoo
[00:08] <arko> http://spacenear.us/tracker/?filter=N6ARA-11
[00:08] <arko> :)
[00:09] <arko> might need o work on my temp testing
[00:09] <arko> i think it got too cold
[00:09] <fsphil> that would make sense
[00:09] <daveake> I was near there last year
[00:10] <daveake> right, need sleep for tomorrow, er, today's launch :p
[00:10] <daveake> nn
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[00:11] <arko> good luck 1!
[00:11] <fsphil> doubt anyone will find that
[00:12] <fsphil> really harsh landscape
[00:16] <fsphil> hehe, Receivers: G3VZV - getting bored now
[00:16] <fsphil> looks like Mondo is properly stuck in that tree
[00:24] <KF7FER> so did arko have any luck?
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[00:43] <griffonbot> @arkorobotics: RT @daveake: PIE6 should launch around noon-1pm today, sending telemetry and live images. See http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp for details #raspberr& [http://twitter.com/arkorobotics/status/338455431984857088]
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[03:55] <arko> Yes!
[03:55] <heathkid> wow arko... I'd hate to have to chase that one! :)
[03:56] <arko> Habexpico came back to life before landing
[03:56] <arko> Yeah
[03:56] <arko> We are going to get it in 2 weeks
[03:57] <arko> It landed in a part of the Mohave that's easy to access
[03:58] <heathkid> I love the path it took around that mountain
[03:58] <heathkid> landed in a pretty flat area
[03:58] <heathkid> could have been a lot worse
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[04:00] <heathkid> but then again... no roads
[04:01] <heathkid> how are you going to get to it?
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[04:11] <quint> one of my backburner lifeprojects is to run across death valley
[04:11] <quint> (horizontal track)
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[04:27] <Babs> Morning all
[04:28] <daveake> ah morning person who's responsible for me being up already :)
[04:28] <daveake> (not true btw)
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[04:29] <Randomskk> looks like it might be another nice enough day at least
[04:29] <daveake> yep
[04:29] <Randomskk> none of this downpour-at-six business
[04:29] <daveake> Randomskk Do you ever sleep?
[04:29] <Randomskk> yes
[04:29] <daveake> I missed that
[04:29] <Randomskk> just I can't tell when any more
[04:29] <daveake> :)
[04:29] <Randomskk> most recently I collapsed at about 3pm, too tired to make any more progress
[04:29] <Randomskk> planned to sleep for a couple of hours but instead work up at 2130
[04:29] <Randomskk> so, I've been up since then :P
[04:29] <daveake> hah
[04:30] <daveake> oh dear :p
[04:30] <Randomskk> currently debating what to do. I've got _some_ results, and I can either try and get more the same way, or I can improve my code one of two ways and then get more, or I can stop here and start writing up the report
[04:30] <Randomskk> the results I already have cost a not insignificant amount of money on EC2
[04:31] <Randomskk> so idk
[04:31] <Randomskk> and also I'm running out of time to do the report :P
[04:32] <daveake> an answer suggests itself :)
[04:32] <Randomskk> indeed
[04:32] <Randomskk> the "stop here" option is appealing
[04:32] <Randomskk> but so is the endless need to make it better
[04:32] <Babs> Daveake! Good work
[04:32] <Babs> I hope you are bacon sandwiching
[04:32] <Randomskk> "just a little.. a little more... some more..."
[04:33] <daveake> soon
[04:33] <daveake> so soon
[04:33] <Randomskk> hehe
[04:33] <Randomskk> in an hour or so I'm gonna go start baking the bread for our brunch
[04:33] <Randomskk> and once it's proving, put the eggs in the sous vide
[04:33] <Randomskk> then get the bacon on the grill ;)
[04:34] <daveake> You see, bacon is always the answer
[04:34] <Randomskk> might work on improving it up until I go start baking
[04:34] <Randomskk> then leave it running the new code while I bake
[04:34] <Randomskk> then stop it when I get back and finish there
[04:34] <Babs> I'll put a slice in babshab for good karma
[04:35] <Randomskk> I have a handy notifier for how well it's doing even when I'm downstairs baking ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sc/n9p1zdyhatuk1lg/SbSCz7UqFq
[04:35] <daveake> oh .... dear...... :)
[04:36] <daveake> It's broke. It doesn't mention bacon at all
[04:36] <daveake> (and please don't go and add that)
[04:36] <Randomskk> haha
[04:36] <Randomskk> what it normally displays is much more fear inducing
[04:36] <Randomskk> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/twjzeixl9qknc2d/JEiiavNR9W
[04:37] <daveake> ha
[04:44] <Maxell> 'morning
[04:46] <daveake> Morning
[04:46] <daveake> Just noticed the comment at the bottom of MONDO-1's panel on spacenear :)
[04:47] <daveake> Stuck in a tree I presume?
[04:47] <Randomskk> haha
[04:47] <Maxell> :o http://aprs.fi/info/a/N6ARA-11
[04:47] <Maxell> it's still alive?
[04:48] <Maxell> daveake: lol: getting bored now
[04:49] <daveake> N6ARA-11 came back to life I believe
[04:49] <daveake> Poss didn't like the cold up there
[04:50] <Maxell> brrr
[04:50] <Maxell> that must be a scary sight. Seeing it come back live again :P
[04:51] <arko> Yeah!!
[04:54] <griffonbot> @ukscone: RT @daveake: PIE6 should launch around noon-1pm today, sending telemetry and live images. See http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp for details #raspberr& [http://twitter.com/ukscone/status/338518541244436481]
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[05:06] <griffonbot> @JeroenAlexander: RT @daveake: PIE6 should launch around noon-1pm today, sending telemetry and live images. See http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp for details #raspberr& [http://twitter.com/JeroenAlexander/status/338521371984412672]
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[05:06] <Maxell> Ok, griffonbot was fast
[05:06] <G4MYS> good morning! its a nice blue sky day in Southampton
[05:07] Nick change: quint -> TriedOut
[05:28] Action: Maxell yawns
[05:28] <Maxell> so early
[05:28] <G4MYS> morning mawell
[05:28] <Maxell> Is that even a word in English? :P
[05:28] <G4MYS> dont know but I did want to know if this was working and youve proved that!
[05:33] <Maxell> IRC is coming trough just fine it seems :)
[05:34] <G4MYS> yes just no traffic as we await got lousey QRM on 434.075 though
[05:36] <Maxell> 434.075 MHz still very clean and silent here
[05:39] <G4MYS> gone silent now whole band it seems is full of squalks and jabberings, and car alarms which I set off from time to time!
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[05:44] <G4MYS> morning Babs do you have news for us?
[05:44] <Babs> Just connecting up
[05:44] <G4MYS> many thanks !
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[05:45] <G4MYS> lets hope its a good one and does not end up20M up a tree!
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[05:48] <fsphil> arko: ok to clear the pico from the map?
[05:48] Nick change: daveake1 -> daveake
[05:49] <daveake> morning fsphil
[05:49] Action: fsphil checks the time
[05:49] <fsphil> aaah yes
[05:49] <fsphil> morning :)
[05:49] <number10> bedtime
[05:49] <daveake> :)
[05:49] <Maxell> G4MYS: I remeber costyn having problems with opening up his car with remote because the payload was sill transmitting in his other hand :P
[05:49] <daveake> Oh yeah that happens a lot
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[05:49] <Maxell> :P
[05:50] <daveake> We had to put a tracker inside a BBQ so Upu could open his car
[05:50] <number10> what did it taste like
[05:50] <G4MYS> yes hand UHF hand held can be fun too esp with pouring rain ain a car park! butthats another story!!
[05:51] <daveake> number10 It tasted of Lava rocks
[05:51] <number10> :)
[05:51] <Maxell> lol
[05:51] <G4MYS> I jammed my own car alarm too amazing cars can be opened with a key too!!
[05:51] <daveake> not bad for 6:51 :p
[05:51] <daveake> Upu's couldn't
[05:51] <fsphil> I know a few that wouldn't
[05:51] <Maxell> wow thats tricky
[05:52] <fsphil> silly little plastic card keys
[05:52] <daveake> Well we about to send someone up the road with the tracker
[05:52] <daveake> we were
[05:54] <G4MYS> with a bit of effort youcan send garage doors in an open / close frenzy!
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[05:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> Morning all
[05:56] Nick change: LazyLeopard -> LazyL_M0LEP
[05:56] <x-f> morning
[05:56] <Maxell> hai
[05:56] <G4MYS> morning
[05:59] Action: LazyL_M0LEP figures it ought to still be night. ;)
[05:59] <G4MYS> the cats is fast asleep so she thinks so!
[05:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Eh there is a Sun around at ths time as well
[06:00] <daveake> a what now?
[06:01] <number10> nothing on the map yet
[06:01] <number10> mrs10 want too chuffed when I checked at 6
[06:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> I thought that only appeared above the clouds, so maybe I'm floating above them
[06:02] <G4MYS> wondering if I record some of these noises I hear and replay them what I might muck up for my neighbours!
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[06:07] <costyn> hi guys
[06:07] <steve_____> hiya
[06:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> Morn'n
[06:07] <steve_____> Anyone know if BABSHAB is flight today?
[06:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> He said @ [06:44] <Babs> Just connecting up
[06:08] <G4MYS> hes out there setting up
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[06:10] <steve_____> uggh - sorry I dc'ed
[06:10] <costyn> Maxell: yea it was a bit confusing moment with the car remote. We'd been playing with the remote too, seeing it appear on the spectrum with the sdr dongle. I thought we'd emptied the (rechargeable) battery of the admittedly old key. I don't know how that thing is still working after 13 years
[06:10] <steve_____> anyone know if BABSHAB is flying
[06:10] <costyn> steve_____: yes
[06:11] <costyn> steve_____: setting up
[06:11] <G4MYS> soon
[06:11] <steve_____> cool
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[06:11] <Babs> Ok - off! All ok
[06:11] <G4MYS> excellent many thanks
[06:11] <costyn> Babs: its up?
[06:12] <daveake> oh so it is :)
[06:12] <costyn> I don't see it on the tracker?
[06:12] <G4MYS> freq please
[06:12] <daveake> tune to 075
[06:12] <daveake> It's just above (on my SDR anyway)
[06:12] <Babs> Can you see it dave
[06:13] <daveake> yep nice and clear
[06:13] <costyn> ah ther it is
[06:13] <LazyL_M0LEP> Not quite in range here yet...
[06:13] <G4MYS> silence is not golden
[06:13] <daveake> ascent rate ... hmm
[06:13] <costyn> eek
[06:13] <fsphil> it'll improve
[06:14] <costyn> 3.6kg under a 2kg balloon. specs we don't often see here
[06:14] <G4MYS> tracker is working
[06:14] Action: fsphil gets the car ready
[06:14] <daveake> Unless that's a big balloon and small payload, I don't think it'll improve enough
[06:14] <Babs> What's the ascent rate?
[06:14] <fsphil> prediction still over land
[06:14] <number10> whats the dial daveake
[06:14] Action: daveake checks the Tx freq on his 075 NTX2
[06:14] <daveake> 1.4
[06:14] <costyn> Babs: too low :(
[06:14] <daveake> 075
[06:15] <costyn> Babs: what was the neck lift?
[06:15] <G4MYS> looks like an interesting run half way to Ireland!
[06:15] <Babs> 5kg
[06:16] <daveake> And payload weight inc chute?
[06:16] <costyn> Babs: should be enough; did you add stirks?
[06:16] <Babs> 3.7
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[06:18] <daveake> getting there :)
[06:18] <LazyL_M0LEP> 434.073.25 dial here
[06:18] <Maxell> yeah it's going
[06:19] <Maxell> Now I wait for that blue circle to touch The Hague :>)
[06:19] <G4MYS> sigs just creeping into receiver on 075
[06:19] Action: LazyL_M0LEP figures a lot of the listeners on the map are left over from yesterday...
[06:19] <costyn> Maxell: it'll take a while at this climb rate
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[06:20] <costyn> LazyL_M0LEP: yea would be cool to have a different antenna for active stations and ones that aren't but were in the last 24h
[06:21] <fsphil> 4m/s
[06:21] Action: LazyL_M0LEP isn't going to go clicking round looking for the ones that say they've been awake this morning... ;)
[06:21] <daveake> Well I didn't think it'd get up to 4 !
[06:22] <daveake> 2.1
[06:22] <GMT> I'm awake, I'm really here! (this is an automated message, please press '1' to continue ...)
[06:22] <Babs> Climb rate fsphil?
[06:22] <costyn> GMT: hehe
[06:22] <fsphil> Babs: yea, though slowed again
[06:22] <Babs> Struggling on the laptop here
[06:22] <Babs> To get any Internet
[06:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> 1
[06:22] <fsphil> 1.3m/s
[06:22] <Maxell> eek
[06:23] <x-f> :/
[06:23] <Maxell> predictor doesnt like that
[06:23] <GMT> maybe its going thru the region where the wind changes direction
[06:23] <fsphil> the wind must be pushing it down a bit
[06:23] <costyn> Maxell: predictor assumes 5m/s climb rate
[06:23] <fsphil> the predictor uses the average ascent rate from the last few positions
[06:23] <Babs> It should start turning now
[06:23] <costyn> fsphil: I stand corrected
[06:24] <Maxell> yeah looks like it going to go south now
[06:24] <costyn> fsphil: could there really be that much downdraft?
[06:24] <fsphil> it's a big balloon
[06:24] Action: daveake increases his neck lift figure
[06:25] <fsphil> could be catching the air
[06:25] <costyn> I see the Cd doesn't change if you select different balloons on the calculator
[06:25] <fsphil> if it is the effect should become less as the air thins and the balloon gets bigger
[06:26] <steve_____> yay - got it
[06:26] <fsphil> making a lovely sine wave on the altitude graph though :)
[06:26] <steve_____> $$d$$BABSHAB,248,06:26:02,51.92698,-1.36691,2390,19,11,5*384F
[06:26] <daveake> The wind is changing direction - perhaps that distorts the balloon and/or provides a ceiling to climb through
[06:27] <costyn> fingers crossed
[06:27] <costyn> with an expensive DSLR on board it would be a shame if it floated
[06:27] <daveake> average so far about 2.6 m/s
[06:28] <steve_____> Is there any reason why you shouldn't have a wide 'Receive filter bandwidth' set
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[06:28] <Babs> Does it have a predicting landing anywhere that doesn't need a ferry? We are heading Wales way
[06:28] <fsphil> it would reduce your SNR a bit steve_____
[06:28] <fsphil> Babs: all predictions so far have been dry
[06:28] <costyn> Babs: hereford at the moment
[06:28] <steve_____> ok
[06:29] <costyn> Babs: still got quite a lot of dry land ahead of the predicted spot
[06:29] <Babs> Dry this side of the Irish Sea? Or should I be sending fsphil some petrol money?
[06:29] <costyn> Babs: yes, this side
[06:29] <Babs> Positives though - the thing was as stable as you like going up
[06:30] <fsphil> Babs: too many vowels for Ireland
[06:30] <costyn> col
[06:30] <Babs> Fingers crossed for a burst now then....
[06:31] <GMT> what is the payload on this balloon?
[06:31] <costyn> fortunately the lower winds are quiteslow
[06:31] <costyn> GMT: Canon 550D DSLR
[06:32] <costyn> GMT: http://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/8685754749/in/set-72157632733154985
[06:32] <costyn> stabilized
[06:32] <Maxell> Super pics? :D
[06:32] <costyn> that's the idea yes
[06:33] <Babs> Theoretically they will be super pics
[06:33] <steve_____> The live prediction just saved you 20 odd miles of driving Babs :)
[06:33] <Babs> However may have no evidence to prove it
[06:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> just rising above the Downs for me
[06:35] <costyn> argh... internet at my in-laws is just awful. might as well connect through 3G, which is faster and less latency
[06:35] <Babs> Do you have a lat/long for us to head to?
[06:35] <costyn> Babs: 52.1492, -3.46755
[06:35] <GMT> predictor says Builth Wells
[06:35] <steve_____> its all a bit crazy
[06:35] <steve_____> just jumped a fair few miles in the wrong direction
[06:35] <steve_____> mid-wales atm
[06:36] <daveake> There's a ferry to Rosslare; head for that :p
[06:36] <steve_____> a little on the south side of mid-wales
[06:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> & decode
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[06:37] <Babs> Alt?
[06:38] <number10> 3753
[06:38] <daveake> 3753
[06:38] <daveake> 1.6 m/s
[06:39] <Maxell> 3896 m
[06:39] <costyn> Babs: most well engineered payload box I've ever seen
[06:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/BABSHAB/
[06:40] Nick change: daveake -> daveake-M6RPI
[06:40] <Babs> Thanks costyn - is it still dawdling upwards?
[06:40] <costyn> Babs: unfortunately yes
[06:40] <Babs> Ahh, got signal now
[06:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> 1.8m/s
[06:41] <Babs> Issue whether or not it bursts actually might be just card capacity
[06:41] <costyn> Babs: SD gonna fille up before you get to altitude?
[06:41] <daveake-M6RPI> If it floats I'll have to think about what to do with my flight
[06:42] <GMT> how often is it taking pics?
[06:42] <daveake-M6RPI> As one of my transmitters is on 075, nominally
[06:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> The chance that it would end up in the same bandwidth is quite low I would think
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[06:50] <Maxell> daveake-M6RPI: "434.075MHz and 434.650MHz" so it would not hurt to disable one right?
[06:50] <Maxell> Or do they serve different purposes?
[06:50] <steve_____> 1pm is still a while away..
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[06:51] <G4MYS> back after computer reset
[06:56] <daveake-M6RPI> Maxell 2 channels of SSDV
[06:56] <daveake-M6RPI> So would rather not as I'd lose half the images
[06:56] <daveake-M6RPI> However, we'll see ...
[07:00] <steve_____> prediction is in your favour again Babs
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[07:01] <steve_____> your side of Hereford
[07:02] <Maxell> daveake-M6RPI: lets hope it will just burt in time.
[07:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> Can you not check freq's just before launch daveake-M6RPI and see if they are likely to clash ?
[07:02] <daveake-M6RPI> Yes I will
[07:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> BABS is looking good and stable like yours
[07:03] <steve_____> are you planning to launch before noon then davaake-M6RPI
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[07:04] <steve_____> Babs landing is predicted at 10:15 UTC
[07:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> Is that prediction with the current climb rate ?
[07:06] <steve_____> Its the live one on space near.us
[07:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes o course !
[07:08] <daveake-M6RPI> steve_____ No probably a tad later
[07:08] <daveake-M6RPI> ISH
[07:08] <steve_____> cool - I hope to be around to track that one as well - but not sure of the wife's plans :)
[07:09] <steve_____> I would like to try and Rx some image data
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[07:14] <daveake-M6RPI> I've checked the Tx and it's about 2kHz lower. Should be fine
[07:15] <daveake-M6RPI> I've put my flight back anyway - someone's coming over and I needed to tell them when to arrive - so I'll launch mine at 1pm BST
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[07:16] <Maxell> costyn: inbound!
[07:19] <mfa298> this has to be the quietest I've seen IRC during a flight.
[07:19] <daveake-M6RPI> still asleep
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[07:20] <Babs> Went out of signal for a while - looks like I should do it more - climb rate has improved right?
[07:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its stable I'm going for more coffee and breakfast
[07:21] <Maxell> yeah nomming here too :P
[07:21] <G6SUQ> me too
[07:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/BABSHAB/ flight path so far
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[07:22] <SP9UOB> morning all :-)
[07:24] <Maxell> Good morning SP9UOB
[07:25] <SP9UOB> hi Maxell
[07:25] <x-f> morning, SP9UOB!
[07:25] <x-f> how did your flights go yesterday?
[07:26] <costyn> Maxell: yea setting up in a bit
[07:28] <Maxell> Altitude: 11497 m Rate: 2.6 m/s :o
[07:28] <fsphil> not really sticking with prediction
[07:29] <SP9UOB> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1RaozM2Bzk&feature=youtu.be
[07:29] <SP9UOB> SEBA-3 takeoff
[07:29] <SP9UOB> x-f: everything went (allmost) OK :-)
[07:30] <x-f> huge crowd there
[07:30] <SP9UOB> many HAMS was tracking on 29 MHz
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[07:30] <SP9UOB> x-f: that was a hamfest
[07:31] <daveake-M6RPI> woah that was a quick launch!
[07:31] <SP9UOB> http://sp9uob.verox.pl/SEBA-3/IMG_4600.JPG
[07:31] <daveake-M6RPI> nice
[07:31] <costyn> SP9UOB: awesome!
[07:32] <G4MYS> SP9UOB sorry could not hear your flight on29Mhz did listen in SOUTHAMPTON
[07:33] <SP9UOB> G4MYS: i'll should try on 21 MHz but crystal was behaving sreange
[07:33] <SP9UOB> strange
[07:33] <SP9UOB> so i retune tx to 29 MHz
[07:34] <G4MYS> whole band seemed dead could not hear any beacons either
[07:34] <SP9UOB> anyway ATV works flawessly :-)
[07:35] <Maxell> You broadcasted ATV from a HAB?! :D
[07:35] <SP9UOB> Maxell: yup
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[07:39] <griffonbot> @G4VXE: RT @daveake: PIE6 should launch around noon-1pm today, sending telemetry and live images. See http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp for details #raspberr& [http://twitter.com/G4VXE/status/338559878538854401]
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[07:40] <Maxell> costyn: inbound for RevSpace now. I have a VLC stream open. Can not hear i yet.
[07:42] <Maxell> I see it trough the fldigi waterfall!
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[07:46] <Maxell> $$B@B[@<3]pAW](53..y}IY59AU`u1D87,,*08dh
[07:46] <Maxell> coming trough
[07:49] <Maxell> :p
[07:50] <PE2G> Morning Maxell, what is the dial?
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[07:51] <Maxell> PE2G: good moring too
[07:51] <G6SUQ> predictor update for BASHAB ... now just south of Hereford
[07:51] <Maxell> PE2G: 434,074300 Mhz
[07:52] <PE2G> Thanks.
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[07:54] <Maxell> Shift 320-ish
[07:54] <PE2G> OK
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[07:54] <PE2G> No signal here yet
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[07:57] <Maxell> No good decodes here too :P
[07:57] <Maxell> DERP
[07:57] <costyn> lol
[07:57] <costyn> i've just lokced myself into the back seat of the car
[07:57] <Maxell> SDRSharp why u default with 0 dB tuner gain
[07:57] <costyn> stupid child locks
[07:57] <Maxell> fuckkkk
[07:58] <costyn> oh well getting decodes anyways
[07:58] <costyn> no need to adjust antenna yet
[08:00] <G4MYS> drifting slightly but got local QRM southampton
[08:01] <Maxell> $$BABSHAB,707,08:00:46,51.96558,-1.65410,16294,23,11,5*649C \o/
[08:01] <Maxell> first good decore
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[08:01] <G4MYS> try a shift of 325
[08:01] <Hi> hallo
[08:01] <Maxell> *after I enable tuner gain* :P
[08:01] <G6SUQ> hallo Hi
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[08:01] <costyn> G6SUQ: well that's just confusing :)
[08:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> Drifting high 400Hz in 40 minutes for me
[08:02] <G6SUQ> it's been very stable since launch
[08:03] <SP9UOB> WOW :-) http://sp9uob.verox.pl/SEBA-3/afterburst.jpg
[08:03] <G4MYS> annoying thing with Fairhaven RX it jumps not VFO normally its OK but noso good with this game!
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[08:03] <costyn> Maxell: figured out how to open my door... just open the window and reach for the handle outside :)
[08:03] <G6SUQ> i've only had to adjust scanner by 100khz since 7.15
[08:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nice one Tom
[08:04] <G4MYS> thats possably all it is but having to shig ft the red lines almost constantly
[08:04] <SP9UOB> the yellow thing tethered to the parachute is chemical light
[08:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> Good idea!
[08:04] <G0MJW-PC> Just setting up. Is there a newer DL-FLDIGI than 3.21.50?
[08:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nope that is current don't use previous versions
[08:05] <G0MJW-PC> Thanks Geoff - been away for a bit.
[08:06] <G0MJW-PC> There is a 59 signal where I was hoping to hear Pie6.
[08:08] <G6SUQ> PIE6 wont be going until 1pm, so practice now on BABSHAB
[08:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thats BABSHAB
[08:09] <G0MJW-PC> Yes - strong. My pre-amp isn't on and it is still really strong
[08:09] <G6SUQ> 'MYS, open up the bandwidth to about 200 and the red lines will track the signal
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[08:10] <Maxell> {$$$$BABSHAB,7808:09:38,51>97326,-1.68606,17753,36,10,5*FD5E
[08:10] <Maxell> $$$$$BABSHAB,749,0x:09:51,51.97371,-1.865,17788,33,10,54FD
[08:10] <Maxell> $$$&$BASH@B,77, 8:10041.97405l-1.6x71,17824l4,10,5*085
[08:10] <Maxell> $$$$$BqBSHAB751,08z90:7,51.9773,-q.68763,17862,32,10,5*F865
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[08:10] <Maxell> Why?
[08:10] <Babs> Finally got some signal - what did I miss?
[08:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Flying nicelly
[08:11] <G6SUQ> Babs, 17000 m, just above Moreton-in-Marsh
[08:11] <steve_____> Hed
[08:11] <Babs> Thanks - is signal stable?
[08:11] <steve_____> Head to Hereford
[08:11] <costyn> Babs: mostly
[08:11] <G6SUQ> very stable for me
[08:11] <steve_____> yes very stable
[08:11] <Babs> And still heading to Hereford?
[08:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes
[08:11] <Babs> Has climb rate improved now the sun has come up?
[08:12] <steve_____> 18km
[08:12] <G6SUQ> yes, prediction now shows southeast of Hereford
[08:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/BABSHAB/ flight path so far
[08:12] <steve_____> Elevation: 10.2
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[08:12] <G6SUQ> no apparent change in the rate of climb
[08:12] <Babs> Pants
[08:12] <G0MJW-PC> Doh - just realised why AFC wasn't working. It wasnt on.
[08:13] <Babs> Camera will run out in 25 minutes, go pro will continue until 1100
[08:13] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: heh... mine wasn't either... derrr
[08:13] <Babs> Has there been any frequency drift?
[08:13] <Babs> Ps thanks to all of you for the early start
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[08:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> A little I make it about 400Hz in 40 minutes whlist I had breakfast
[08:13] <steve_____> its drifting up
[08:13] <steve_____> not much
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[08:14] <Babs> Does that mean its getting warmer?
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[08:14] <Babs> There is more volts than in needs going through the arduino and I didn't know whether it might just heat up as a result
[08:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> It was pretty flat until about 08:20 then went up in Freq.
[08:15] <Babs> It needs
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[08:17] <PE2G> I have a weak signal on 434.0746 now, no decodes yet
[08:17] <costyn> PE2G: I'm at 73.67
[08:18] <Maxell> PE2G: ground level horizon is 40 km for you
[08:18] <G0MJW-PC> Line of sight for me.
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[08:20] <costyn> PE2G: I just realized I have the exact same antenna :)
[08:20] <PE2G> That't a good one (especially for the money)
[08:20] <costyn> yea
[08:21] <costyn> it's a bit fragile though
[08:21] <Maxell> http://i.imgur.com/CWRfnRW.png hmm
[08:21] <Maxell> strong signal thats for sure
[08:21] <costyn> not really good for carrying around
[08:21] <costyn> Maxell: try shift 325
[08:22] <PE2G> costyn: yes, I take it inside, after every rx session
[08:23] <costyn> PE2G: carant website says it should be ok to stay outside
[08:23] <PE2G> It doesn't rust anyway
[08:24] <steve_____> woot distance > 100km away with a SDR dongle and X30 arial :)
[08:25] <PE2G> Partial decodes here
[08:26] <steve_____> I think I need a better arial for the weaker signals as I couldn't hear MONDO-1 yesterday very well at all
[08:26] <steve_____> and didn't hear FALCON at all
[08:26] <costyn> steve_____: antenna is fine... maybe you need a habamp?
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[08:26] <steve_____> ok - will look into that :)
[08:27] <G0MJW-PC> Habamp makes a big difference with the TV sticks
[08:27] <costyn> steve_____: http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=73 recommended when using SDR
[08:27] <x-f> Maxell, try decreasing the filter bandwidth in SDRsharp perhaps
[08:27] <steve_____> thx
[08:28] <G0MJW-PC> FCD needs a filter
[08:28] <G0MJW-PC> FCD PRo+ works well without filter or Pre-amp
[08:28] <PE2G> First successful decodes at dx 574 km: http://s9.postimg.org/eikqbiu67/Screen884.jpg
[08:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> SDR-RAdio is nice for that you can drag the edges of the bandwidth close to the signal to eliminate noise
[08:29] <Maxell> x-f: ok thanks I have to go now. I'll let it run :)
[08:29] <PE7ER> good work pe2g i do not have a signal even!
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[08:31] <PE2G> PE7E: very slow fading here, lost it again
[08:31] <PE7ER> signal is way below the ' hondsrug' here ;)
[08:33] <PE7ER> hondsrug = the ' dutch mountains' here
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[08:35] <PE2G> I have the Sallandse Heuvelrug (alt 75 m) between me and the sonde
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[08:35] <G0MJW-PC> Are these Duthc mountains above sea level?
[08:36] <PE2G> Barely
[08:36] <PE7ER> lol yes if the big flood hits, i will run for the hills :p
[08:37] <PE2G> I will stay in my flat, it is 38 m AGL
[08:38] <GMT> I have seen somebody wearing a t-shirt saying 'Netherlands Mountaineering Centre'
[08:38] <PE2G> lol
[08:39] <GMT> isn't it a 'bit hilly' down in the southeast?
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[08:41] <PE7ER> it is in Limburg province yes
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[08:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> PE2G your view http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/BABSHAB/index.php?ind=4
[08:41] <GMT> I will check it out in a few weeks time when I come over there
[08:41] <PE7ER> if you were at eyelevel 307 that is hehe
[08:42] <PE2G> Geoff-G8DHE: Very nice, thanks!
[08:42] <G0MJW-PC> Will go dark for the Amsat net. Tx on 80m knocks out my ADSL.
[08:43] <PE7ER> does babs use the regular 10 mw ?
[08:44] <PE7ER> < starting to see signal now on waterfall
[08:45] <G0MJW-PC> 23 degrees elevation.
[08:47] <PE7ER> it is still below horizon here, but signal is visible
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[08:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> You moved!
[08:49] <x-f> you're way ahead of your slowly traveling balloon, Babs
[08:49] <steve_____> Yeah
[08:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> Come back a bit
[08:50] <steve_____> its predicted to land back nearer the M50
[08:50] <steve_____> Head towards Ledbury
[08:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> Probably getting breakfast first
[08:52] <PE7ER> partial decoding begins now here
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[08:53] <PE2G> PE7ER: Still below your horizon?
[08:54] <PE7ER> yes
[08:54] <Babs> Naff all signal anywhere ! Do you have a lat long for landing? Cheers
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[08:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Predicted Landing
[08:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> 52.002, -2.54621 at 10:34 UTC
[08:54] <Babs> Thanks geoff
[08:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> SW of Ledbury
[08:54] <PE2G> PE7ER: -0.1 deg here still
[08:55] <Babs> Is utc the same time as now?
[08:55] <GMT> just about to send you a text message
[08:55] <Babs> Or 1 hr behind?
[08:55] <daveake-M6RPI> 1 hr behind
[08:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> No add 1 Hour
[08:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> for BST
[08:56] <Babs> Thanks gmt
[08:56] <G0MJW-PC> It is now 0956 BSt and 0856 UTC
[08:56] <daveake-M6RPI> *gmt is now known as bst
[08:56] <G0MJW-PC> Er? No
[08:57] <daveake-M6RPI> ^^ nick joke
[08:57] <costyn> GMT is now known as UTC
[08:57] <daveake-M6RPI> ^ like that
[08:57] <daveake-M6RPI> :)
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[08:58] <G0MJW-PC> I think we should call them Zulu
[08:58] <G4MYS> green mountain time = UTC universal Time coodinates I E real London Time!
[08:58] <daveake-M6RPI> I don't think I've ever seen a chase car si far ahead :-)
[08:58] <daveake-M6RPI> so
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[08:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Must have Bacon in Hereford
[09:00] <G4MYS> therefore BST is British Summer time! not "real" london time which is UTC / GMT! the two are 1 hour apart explain that to the kids
[09:00] <GMT> I wondered why I could not see the chase-car on my map ... zoom out ... oh, wow!
[09:00] <daveake-M6RPI> Time is an illusion; launch time doubly so
[09:01] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: haha
[09:01] <costyn> would be nice if we had a bot in this channel
[09:01] <GMT> that's a para-phrase of Douglas Adams!
[09:01] <costyn> we could save these kinds of quotes
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[09:02] <GMT> doesn't cut-n-paste work?
[09:02] <daveake-M6RPI> Yeah we have a ukhas glossary (Stirk, Lunar Cycle etc.) just add a quotes page :)
[09:03] <cuddykid> daveake-M6RPI: is that your new call sign?!
[09:03] <GMT> woohoo, msg # 1000
[09:03] <daveake-M6RPI> sure is ck
[09:03] <cuddykid> nice one
[09:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> I've got a Dalmation then
[09:04] <G0MJW-PC> Are you going to join the local radio club Dave?
[09:04] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: ah cool.. didn't know about the glossary
[09:04] <PE2G> daveake-M6RPI: you got your HAM license recently?
[09:04] <daveake-M6RPI> Already have G0MJW :)
[09:04] <daveake-M6RPI> And signed up to do a HAB talk
[09:04] <G0MJW-PC> Excellent.
[09:04] <PE2G> Ah.
[09:04] <daveake-M6RPI> PE2G yes did the exam last weekend
[09:04] <G0MJW-PC> Which club though?
[09:04] <daveake-M6RPI> Harwell
[09:05] <PE2G> daveake-M6RPI: Congrats!
[09:05] <daveake-M6RPI> ta :)
[09:05] <G0MJW-PC> And passed presumably. Well done
[09:05] <daveake-M6RPI> well yes :)
[09:06] <SP9UOB> ok, im preparing PICO, maybe today its gonna float :-)
[09:06] <GMT> is the exam still multiple choice?
[09:06] <costyn> SP9UOB: you're a HAB machine!
[09:06] <G0MJW-PC> Intermediate, Advanced. I was lucky, I only had to take the old RAE which was one shot.
[09:07] <costyn> 5km to go until burst altitude
[09:07] <SP9UOB> costyn: i must return helium cylinder
[09:07] <daveake-M6RPI> [*] A Yes [ ] B No [ ] C Maybe [ ] D What's an exam?
[09:07] <GMT> vbg!
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[09:08] <SP9UOB> costyn: dont want waste remaining helium :-)
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[09:09] <costyn> SP9UOB: no guess not :)
[09:09] <AdamDynamic> Hi, does anyone have an email address for someone I can contact regarding the 2 sites mentioned on the UKHAS website with blanket launch permissions?
[09:10] <GMT> 'UOB, surelt you have a local University or College where the studies could use the helium for their drinking/party games?
[09:10] <Babs> Cuddykid's app is a lifesaver
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[09:10] <cuddykid> glad it's of use :D
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[09:10] <cuddykid> I'm still to test in a chase
[09:10] <cuddykid> hopefully v soon
[09:11] <eroomde> AdamDynamic: the one in cambridge is run by cambrifge university spaceflight
[09:11] <eroomde> contact email on their website - cusf.co.uk
[09:11] <AdamDynamic> Thanks guys, I'll have a look at both :)
[09:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Babs the Tx has remained stable again now for an hour or more
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[09:14] <costyn> cuddykid: it's missing some of the info I use on the normal tracker though, like other listening stations and the horizon circles
[09:14] <fsphil> morning. again
[09:14] <cuddykid> yeah
[09:14] <costyn> cuddykid: do you have a bug/feature tracker?
[09:15] <cuddykid> not at the moment
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[09:15] <PE7ER> it is still on the edge here, also that AGC from HDSDR is anoying!
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[09:16] <fsphil> pretty good signal here
[09:17] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIpkNVL1JNQ - this is not directly on-topic
[09:17] <PE2G> Very good signal here at elevation 0.2 deg
[09:17] Nick change: fsphil -> fsphil-MI0VIM
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[09:18] <chrisstubbs> I've got pants signal from the babbington habbington
[09:19] <fsphil-MI0VIM> obstruction?
[09:19] <chrisstubbs> yeah maybe
[09:19] <PE7ER> $$$$$BABSHAB,1073,09:18:43,52.00111,-2.07284,29814,9,9,5*4F0E
[09:19] <fsphil-MI0VIM> it's not the strongest signal ever
[09:19] <chrisstubbs> might try and stick the habamp on
[09:19] <PE7ER> dunno whats wrong there?
[09:19] <fsphil-MI0VIM> definitely a bit weaker than some of the others
[09:20] <fsphil-MI0VIM> daveake-M6RPI: any changes to plan / schedule?
[09:21] <g7uxw> Has there been a launch yet ??
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[09:21] <fsphil-MI0VIM> g7uxw: BABSHAB is current in flight
[09:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> BABSHAB is flying
[09:21] <fsphil-MI0VIM> 434.075-ish
[09:22] <g7uxw> cool listening to 434.075 no sig
[09:22] <G6SUQ> 'UXW, tune downwards slowly until you find the signal
[09:22] <g7uxw> ok thanks
[09:22] <fsphil-MI0VIM> they drift with temperature, so it's never where advertised
[09:23] <fsphil-MI0VIM> why I added -ish :)
[09:23] <daveake-M6RPI> fsphil-MI0VIM Yeah aiming for 1pm launch
[09:24] <daveake-M6RPI> Otherwise the same
[09:24] <g7uxw> SSB of FM ???
[09:24] <fsphil-MI0VIM> okie. I'm gonna head up the hill
[09:24] <fsphil-MI0VIM> g7uxw: USB
[09:24] <daveake-M6RPI> live streaming on batc using m0upu's channel
[09:24] <NickB_> caught a thermal yesterday :) http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qG0HcMCvKdQ/UaEi0n-hwdI/AAAAAAAARn4/Zhoh07bmkOE/s400/BALLON_FALCON_250513_profil.JPG
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[09:24] <PE7ER> finally first decode!
[09:25] <costyn> NickB_: wow... that's really cool!
[09:25] <PE7ER> summings wrong here i guess
[09:25] <fsphil-MI0VIM> NickB_: yes saw that in the graph, did you have a large chute?
[09:25] <daveake-M6RPI> How is it that the 3G broadband card always runs out of credit *on launch days*
[09:25] <g7uxw> duration ???
[09:25] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: murphy's law?
[09:25] <daveake-M6RPI> Yes I have a spare :)
[09:25] <daveake-M6RPI> yup
[09:25] <cuddykid> 3's unlimited data is where it's at :)
[09:25] <fsphil-MI0VIM> damn murphy
[09:25] <G0MJW-PC> I have 3 unlimited. It does not run out.
[09:25] <daveake-M6RPI> Well I just buy a SIM card for about £13, giving 3 months 3GB
[09:26] <daveake-M6RPI> Cheaper to get a new card than top up
[09:26] <fsphil-MI0VIM> hah
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[09:26] <fsphil-MI0VIM> that's just wrong
[09:26] <G0MJW-PC> I actually find it useful as a phone - unexpectedly.
[09:26] <fsphil-MI0VIM> mobile prices are all over the place
[09:26] <NickB_> fsphil-MI0VIM, was comparable to 36" chute i think, there were a lot of cumuli so could be thermal activity
[09:27] <daveake-M6RPI> I have a plan on my phone too, but for chases I prefer to run a separate dongle with magmount 3G aerial on the roof
[09:27] <fsphil-MI0VIM> there's a spot on the mountain where I have LOS to home, and can probably connect to my Wifi
[09:27] <daveake-M6RPI> hah
[09:27] <fsphil-MI0VIM> but it's not got a good view east so not great for tracking
[09:27] <fsphil-MI0VIM> and the spot best for tracking has no wifi
[09:28] <costyn> fsphil-MI0VIM: heh
[09:28] <costyn> fsphil-MI0VIM: choices, choices
[09:28] <PE2G> Don't you experience interference from the 3G signal?
[09:28] <fsphil-MI0VIM> need a longer pole
[09:28] <G0MJW-PC> Signals faded a bit - only S7 now
[09:28] <fsphil-MI0VIM> S0 :)
[09:28] <costyn> 2km till burst
[09:29] <fsphil-MI0VIM> costyn: I suspect it'll burst higher than previously expected
[09:29] <G0MJW-PC> Hope to get the pre-amp fixed soon. Makes a huge difference.
[09:29] <fsphil-MI0VIM> I just hope it does burst
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[09:29] <fsphil-MI0VIM> it's not certain
[09:29] <fsphil-MI0VIM> it's in the woowoo zone
[09:29] <henk_> goodmorning
[09:29] <costyn> fsphil-MI0VIM: at 3 m/s ascent rate it will reach 34.3, so only a km more
[09:29] <costyn> henk_: hello, fellow Dutchman
[09:30] <g7uxw> got it cool
[09:30] <g7uxw> big smile
[09:30] <henk_> babshab good reception
[09:31] <g4sgx-iain> Nice strong sigs, know what they're using for tx?
[09:31] <costyn> g4sgx-iain: standard 10mw ntx2 I believe
[09:32] <henk_> receive with kenwood ts-790E
[09:32] <steve_____> Babs your Balloon is moving quickly - 94km/h
[09:33] <steve_____> over 100km/h now
[09:33] <steve_____> and still climbing - 2 m/s
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[09:34] <PE2G> Dx 607 km with some local QRM: http://s12.postimg.org/z1yrxc90t/Screen885.jpg
[09:35] <henk_> 582 km
[09:36] <costyn> henk_: you are PE1BUD?
[09:36] <G0MJW-PC> Why isn't it drifting?
[09:36] <henk_> no pa3hdm
[09:36] <steve_____> 32km high Babs
[09:36] <PE2G> PE1BUD is Hans
[09:36] <steve_____> Babs was worried about it getting hot
[09:37] <steve_____> I guess that is being countered by altitude
[09:37] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: it's very well insulated http://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/8665146053/in/set-72157632733154985/
[09:37] <steve_____> perhaps the balance is just right
[09:38] <costyn> it's been engineered very well
[09:38] <henk_> that looks good
[09:38] <G0MJW-PC> Rather triangular and sky blue.
[09:38] <G0MJW-PC> Hope you took off the lens cap
[09:39] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: It's not mine and I'm sure Babs did :)
[09:39] <daveake-M6RPI> Ascent rate is slowing ... wonder which way this will go :)
[09:40] <G0MJW-PC> Another signal has appeared 2kHz HF
[09:40] <g7uxw> will the baloon be brought down at some time ??
[09:40] <fsphil-MI0VIM> we really need to invent a ground-to-balloon cut-down device
[09:40] <PE7ER> my neighbour has an electric fence installed today! darnit! all ticks and clicks on rf
[09:40] <costyn> PE7ER: well that sucks
[09:40] <fsphil-MI0VIM> bursty!
[09:40] <daveake-M6RPI> burst
[09:40] <fsphil-MI0VIM> phew
[09:40] <costyn> w00000000t
[09:40] <g7uxw> ok
[09:41] <G0MJW-PC> Saw it in the signal.
[09:41] Action: daveake-M6RPI restarts countdown
[09:41] <fsphil-MI0VIM> lol
[09:41] <PE2G> PE7ER: Terrible
[09:41] <costyn> man what a relief
[09:41] <fsphil-MI0VIM> holding at T-60?
[09:41] <steve_____> got to about 32.5km hihg
[09:41] <G0MJW-PC> The HF signal did the same so assume a spurious
[09:41] <daveake-M6RPI> Very good result could have been a lot worse
[09:41] <fsphil-MI0VIM> yes
[09:41] <costyn> hope the chute works, otherwise 3.7kg is going to go down fast
[09:41] <fsphil-MI0VIM> 2000g balloon right? has anyone floated one of those?
[09:41] <steve_____> it id failing very fast
[09:41] <PE7ER> yea, and the noise blanker in HDSDR is not helping much
[09:42] <daveake-M6RPI> Not that I know of
[09:42] <costyn> steve_____: 200 km/h yes
[09:42] <PE7ER> anyways signal is gone already
[09:42] <henk_> landing in a millitairy base hihhiih
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[09:42] <daveake-M6RPI> Must say, the 817 is doing a *lot* better than the FCD on this flight. No habamp just a low-loss splitter from the same aerial
[09:42] <PE2G> It's coming down fast
[09:43] <G0MJW-PC> Is that a pro+ or a pro Dave?
[09:43] <daveake-M6RPI> normal
[09:43] <PE7ER> maybe i should have changed receivers too
[09:43] <daveake-M6RPI> Just the Pro
[09:43] <G0MJW-PC> It is probably being desensed.
[09:43] <daveake-M6RPI> Yes I think so
[09:43] <PE2G> Elevation -0.4, I lost it at dx 615 km
[09:43] <steve_____> Ledbury Babs
[09:44] <daveake-M6RPI> I see a burst here every so often, possibly from my oil tank sender :p, and that always causes the FCD to lose the sentence but the 817 just carries on
[09:44] <G0MJW-PC> Chute seems to be slowing it.
[09:44] <henk_> 587 last distance
[09:44] <steve_____> A449 Ross Road
[09:44] <costyn> steve_____: Babs doesn't seem to be here atm
[09:44] <daveake-M6RPI> That's where I'm hoping to move to :p
[09:44] <daveake-M6RPI> (but just outside Ross)
[09:45] <eroomde> it's lovely round there
[09:45] <G6SUQ> I'm in contact with Babs, sending updates; do you think the parachute is working okay?
[09:45] <daveake-M6RPI> is indeed
[09:45] <eroomde> good walking, good restaurants
[09:45] <daveake-M6RPI> did I mention the launch site at the back of the garden?
[09:45] <costyn> G6SUQ: yep looks it
[09:45] <costyn> G6SUQ: it'd be going a lot faster without chute
[09:45] <daveake-M6RPI> yes that rate is fine
[09:46] <daveake-M6RPI> a tad fast but fine
[09:46] <daveake-M6RPI> well the SLR might not think so :p
[09:46] <fsphil-MI0VIM> it's a heavy thing
[09:46] <daveake-M6RPI> I'm sure the SD card will be just fine :)
[09:46] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: haha
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[09:47] <G0MJW-PC> Takes a lot to destroy an SD card. Glass lens, less so.
[09:47] <LazyL_M0LEP> Hopefully the chute will be working a bit harder soon...
[09:47] <costyn> well it's in a rollcage.. might act as a crumple zone
[09:47] <costyn> http://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/8622607640/in/set-72157632733154985
[09:47] <LazyL_M0LEP> ...and chase car's a long way from landing...
[09:48] <daveake-M6RPI> overshot somewhat
[09:48] <G0MJW-PC> Only about 5 miles
[09:48] <LazyL_M0LEP> ...but maybe Babs is offline and not updating.
[09:48] <daveake-M6RPI> yes not updated for a while
[09:48] <costyn> he's off line yea
[09:48] <G6SUQ> Babs is in Ledbury, no signal
[09:48] <costyn> G6SUQ: perfect
[09:48] <LazyL_M0LEP> Heh
[09:49] <G0MJW-PC> No signal? Right frequency? 817 antenna selection?
[09:49] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: no GSM/3G signal
[09:49] <eroomde> no phone signal
[09:49] <G6SUQ> no wifi signal
[09:49] <G0MJW-PC> Ah. What? Surely they have 3G in Ledbury?
[09:50] <G6SUQ> he's got phone sigs, I am texting him
[09:50] <LazyL_M0LEP> No network !
[09:50] <fsphil-MI0VIM> still got a trace on the waterfall
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[09:50] <fsphil-MI0VIM> man that fell quickly :)
[09:50] <costyn> that's too bad... being able to see the tracker during a chase is very useful
[09:50] <daveake-M6RPI> oh
[09:50] <daveake-M6RPI> still going quickly
[09:50] <costyn> that is still moving yea
[09:51] <costyn> 75km/h
[09:51] <fsphil-MI0VIM> has slowed a little
[09:51] <daveake-M6RPI> doesn't seem to have slowed much since 20km up
[09:51] <daveake-M6RPI> and then it slows down :)
[09:51] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: well it has, from 200 to 65
[09:51] <LazyL_M0LEP> Hmmm...
[09:51] <G0MJW-PC> Speed isn't a vector
[09:51] <daveake-M6RPI> that was at 30km up :)
[09:51] <fsphil-MI0VIM> no trace here anymore
[09:51] <fsphil-MI0VIM> definitely one of the quicker drops :)
[09:52] <steve_____> it seems to have slowed down a lot now
[09:52] <costyn> 50km/h
[09:53] <x-f> 7 m/s touchdown?
[09:53] <G0MJW-PC> Maybe there is somthing wrong with the reading.. was 9kph, then 5kph
[09:53] <G0MJW-PC> then 50kph
[09:53] <LazyL_M0LEP> Jittery
[09:53] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: going through various air layers... might be shoved around a bit
[09:53] <x-f> is Babs on the move yet?
[09:54] <costyn> x-f: he's close yes
[09:54] <LazyL_M0LEP> Yes, but he can't update the car position.
[09:54] <x-f> great
[09:54] <G6SUQ> Babs is waiting for a more precise prediction, I will send to him when flight gets closer to ground
[09:54] <costyn> too bad, always fun to see balloon and chase car converge
[09:54] <G0MJW-PC> Not that much on a calm day.
[09:55] <steve_____> I am failing to decode often now
[09:55] <G6SUQ> he says he's 6 mins from landing spot
[09:55] <g4fui> LOS in Penrith, blue circle a bit optimistic today ...
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[09:56] <costyn> meh still going at 45km/h downwards
[09:56] <G0MJW-PC> There are many woods in the area
[09:56] <LazyL_M0LEP> Yeah, descent isn't slow...
[09:56] <LazyL_M0LEP> Treas may help ;)
[09:57] <LazyL_M0LEP> Trees, even...
[09:57] <fsphil-MI0VIM> They do sometimes prove useful
[09:57] <G6SUQ> who is closest receiver to them?
[09:57] <fsphil-MI0VIM> like holding the payload high enough to decode at a distance
[09:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> The current rate it will be in Ledbury itself!
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[09:57] <costyn> does Babs have radio and antenna with him?
[09:58] <fsphil-MI0VIM> I think daveake-M6RPI might actually be closest
[09:58] <fsphil-MI0VIM> surely they have a radio in the car?
[09:58] <Graham_G3VZV> lots of landrover drivers play in those woods
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[09:58] <steve_____> &lost it
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[09:59] <steve_____> I can hear it but no longer decoding regularly
[09:59] <costyn> I'm predicting a tree/forrest landing
[09:59] <steve_____> $$$$$BABSHAB,1260,09:59:13,52.04019,-2.40853,5917,25,11,5*5D6B
[09:59] <costyn> ah it moved fruther into the forest
[10:00] <G0MJW-PC> Still a good signal but I wont hear it on the ground without my preamp
[10:00] <daveake-M6RPI> That'll break its fall :)
[10:00] <costyn> still moving at 36km/h
[10:00] Nick change: fsphil-MI0VIM -> fsphil
[10:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> Gone for me too
[10:01] <steve_____> 980 odd decodes :)
[10:01] <costyn> weird path now
[10:01] <G6SUQ> i'm still decoding but will loose it soon
[10:01] <G0MJW-PC> I still see it but not on tracker.
[10:02] <Graham_G3VZV> no preamp here Mike!
[10:02] <fsphil> it's doing a little squiggly loop
[10:02] <G0MJW-PC> Refreshed online status
[10:02] <costyn> fsphil: predictor is confused now :)
[10:02] <G0MJW-PC> Hi Graham. Amsat net seems to hav eknocked out the uploading
[10:03] <Graham_G3VZV> G0MJW-PC yes I havent seen u on the tarcker for a while
[10:03] <costyn> well this is the final fall rate... it's not going to slow down any more
[10:04] <G0MJW-PC> OK restarted.
[10:04] <RocketBoy> its going to be a 7 to 8m/sec landing - with such a hefty payload
[10:04] <g4sgx-iain> Tree landing quite good for a fall and load like that
[10:04] <LazyL_M0LEP> Yeah...
[10:05] <LazyL_M0LEP> Murphy says it finds som econcrete, of course...
[10:05] <RocketBoy> yeah is a good job its going to miss ledbury
[10:05] <LazyL_M0LEP> Not decoding here any more.
[10:05] <costyn> at least it won't be swinging in a tree
[10:05] <G0MJW-PC> Seems to be back - old program still up saying 2Uploading any remaining queued items to servier" it had crashed
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[10:06] <Willdude123> Morning.
[10:06] <G6SUQ> just spoke with Babs ... they're close to predicted landing spot; they have good signals from payload, and can decode locally, but no way to upload
[10:06] <costyn> G6SUQ: good :)
[10:06] <G0MJW-PC> Have attached dogey pre-amp
[10:06] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: seems to work :)
[10:07] <G0MJW-PC> For 5 mins maybe. Water in coax issue
[10:07] <G6SUQ> sigs gone for me now
[10:07] <steve_____> Well thanks for the fun - see you all later& last known position from me: $$$$$BABSHAB,1260,09:59:13,52.04019,-2.40853,5917,25,11,5*5D6B
[10:08] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: cool that yu're still decoding
[10:08] <Graham_G3VZV> Its too weak now - its behind the Malvern hills for me:(
[10:08] <cuddykid> heading for the woods
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[10:08] <g7uxw> its gone at IO91QE
[10:08] <costyn> cuddykid: won't reach it I think
[10:08] <cuddykid> hopefully not
[10:08] <G0MJW-PC> Losing it
[10:08] <costyn> the field it's over now will be its resting place
[10:09] <costyn> hopefully not the final resting place for the camera
[10:09] <henk_> amen
[10:09] <costyn> camera was going to take pictures till 11:00
[10:09] <costyn> so most of the way down should have pictures too
[10:10] <G0MJW-PC> Last 3 packets
[10:10] <G0MJW-PC> $$$$$BABSHAB,1300,10:07:48,52.03624,-2.40201,697,28,11,5*207D
[10:10] <G0MJW-PC> $$$$$BABSHAB,1301,10:08:00,52.03609,-@00,599,2,11,5*41F9
[10:10] <G0MJW-PC> $$$$$BABSHAB,102,0:08:12,52.03606,200082,51,17,1*25
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[10:11] <x-f> nice quit message
[10:12] <cuddykid> RocketBoy: I reckon the batt life on the go pro silver was diminished due to cold (re email) - fully charged before flight
[10:12] <G6SUQ> I've have Babs-chase the final prediction
[10:12] <RocketBoy> ta - yeah - I have seen that before
[10:12] <RocketBoy> its not too bad though
[10:12] <G0MJW-PC> But it was coming down at 8m/s
[10:13] <cuddykid> RocketBoy: do you usually hook up another batt pack via microUSB?
[10:13] <RocketBoy> oh sure - thats what I normally do
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[10:13] <RocketBoy> I now normally use a separate battery rather than the bacpac
[10:13] <cuddykid> RocketBoy: custom solution or something of the likes of eBay?
[10:14] <cuddykid> sounds a good idea
[10:14] <G4MYS> interesting flight many thanks int to see lost it at8,031 ft at 142 Km away
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[10:14] <RocketBoy> the lead is custom - but just a standard battery extender
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[10:15] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: are you launching at 12:00? or 13:00
[10:15] <RocketBoy> with a separate battery you can shift its position to balance the box better
[10:15] <GMT> babs chase car reports they have a GSM message reporting the landing position of the payload
[10:15] <g7uxw> Will there be another launch Today ???
[10:15] <cuddykid> RocketBoy: ah yes, that can sometimes be a nuissance
[10:16] <cuddykid> RocketBoy: planning to do the launch soonish?
[10:16] <GMT> 'UXW: one more at about 1pm
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[10:16] <RocketBoy> cuddykid: I was more interested to see if the cut-out was due to temperature or battery problems
[10:17] <RocketBoy> but it sounds like battery
[10:17] <cuddykid> yeah, I would think it's battery
[10:17] <g7uxw> good had to remove 706 from car just got it all up and running
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[10:17] <costyn> cuddykid: what record time did you get from your gopro?
[10:18] <cuddykid> costyn: usually around 3hrs with bacpac iirc
[10:18] <RocketBoy> cuddlykid: just in case I will put some temp sensors in the GoPro on the next flight
[10:18] <RocketBoy> cuddlykid ;-)
[10:18] <cuddykid> RocketBoy: haha
[10:18] <costyn> haah
[10:18] <costyn> cuddykid: we got about 2 hours from a standard go pro
[10:19] <cuddykid> yeah, last time I flew GoPro2 on a 'normal' flight - lasted long enough to record whole flight and recovery (with bacpac)
[10:19] <Darkside> we use a external abttery pack
[10:19] <Darkside> i.e. a bunch of energizer lithiums with a 5v regulator
[10:19] <cuddykid> will do that in future
[10:20] <cuddykid> 4AAs? should be fine I would think - perhaps 6 for extra juice
[10:20] <costyn> Darkside: how many? and which volt reg did you uuse?
[10:20] <Darkside> i think we used 6
[10:20] <daveake-M6RPI> costyn 13:00 BST 12:00 UTC (ISH)
[10:20] <Darkside> and some kind of switchmode reg
[10:20] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: ta
[10:21] <costyn> when externally powered, the go pro doesn't use the internal battery any more does it?
[10:21] <cuddykid> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PortaPow-USB-Battery-Pack-BacPac-GoPro-Go-Pro-HD-Hero-Hero2-Camera-/320806859196?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Battery_Chargers&hash=item4ab19431bc
[10:21] <cuddykid> bit expensive though
[10:21] <daveake-M6RPI> Payload running SSDV uploading now
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[10:21] <daveake-M6RPI> batc will be on later
[10:22] <daveake-M6RPI> 434.075 has the smaller images and .650 the larger ones
[10:23] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: are you planning another floater?
[10:24] <G0MJW-PC> Do I need two receivers then Dave? With an FCD if they are less than 192kHz apart I can receive both, with greater spacing it needs two receivers.
[10:24] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: looks like you'll need 2
[10:25] <daveake-M6RPI> costyn No :)
[10:25] <G0MJW-PC> I can do that - needs care though to not enable TX!
[10:25] <daveake-M6RPI> Sorry ... no it's not a floater, and yes you'll need to receivers
[10:26] <G0MJW-PC> (Suspect Dave is going for a record)
[10:26] <daveake-M6RPI> two
[10:26] <daveake-M6RPI> [innocent_face]
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[10:26] <daveake-M6RPI> Payload weighs 170g, and it's a 1600g hwoyee
[10:26] <G0MJW-PC> Whatever happened to the plan to launch a rocket from a baloon at 40k?
[10:27] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: ah yea
[10:27] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: it got shot down :P
[10:27] <costyn> G0MJW-PC: dunno, techincally very hard to do
[10:27] <G0MJW-PC> In flames?
[10:28] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: impressively light :)
[10:28] <cuddykid> can't remember what the consensus is on li-po batts?
[10:28] <costyn> cuddykid: that there is none, but if you wan to be safe, don't use them
[10:28] <cuddykid> I'll stay away then :P
[10:28] <G0MJW-PC> I would be careful - using one as a bat could damage it and cause an internal short
[10:29] <cuddykid> I'll just go with set of lithium AAs then rather than a chinese solution
[10:29] <daveake-M6RPI> Ask Boeing :)
[10:29] <cuddykid> probably got quite a few going space
[10:29] <cuddykid> *spare
[10:29] <costyn> cuddykid: probably best
[10:29] <henk_> i use scud rockets
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[10:29] <G0MJW-PC> Almost all payloads use lithium
[10:30] <costyn> what do you guys do with your left over energizer lithiums? seems a shame to put them in the kids' toys
[10:30] <G0MJW-PC> in the cameras and phones.
[10:30] <cuddykid> use them for testing
[10:30] <cuddykid> last for ages
[10:30] <Darkside> electric tooth brush
[10:30] <Darkside> remotes
[10:30] <cuddykid> though, I still have a big box of 1/2 used
[10:30] <gonzo_p> think the main prob wit lipos isthey are not good at low temp
[10:30] <Darkside> almost every remote in my house is powered by batteries that have been through a flight
[10:30] <cuddykid> ha
[10:30] <G0MJW-PC> Who launched an electric toothbrush? Any why?
[10:31] <costyn> the ones I had had most of their voltage left in them... seems that they could last another flight
[10:31] <gonzo_p> that idea is a bit long in the tooth mink!
[10:31] <cuddykid> yeah, mine could do another 2 flights easily
[10:31] Action: Maxell is back
[10:32] <Maxell> dl-fldigi hold up great
[10:32] <cuddykid> usually use 4 - bit of an overkill but make sure it lasts
[10:32] <costyn> Maxell: yea it was decoding while nobody was minding the pc
[10:32] <Maxell> i see lots of good decodes :P
[10:32] <gonzo_p> I thought that may be the root of another punfest
[10:32] <WILLdude> Dammit. Can't track PIE6 today :(
[10:32] <Maxell> \o/
[10:32] <WILLdude> It is the only one I had a chance of getting
[10:32] <G0MJW-PC> Just filling in Jules?
[10:32] <henk_> is babs already recovered?
[10:32] <gonzo_p> that would cap it all
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[10:34] <G4MYS> note there is already slow scan pictures from PIE6 on the ground
[10:34] <gonzo_p> G0MJW-PC, you should get excellent sigs from pie, so close to you
[10:34] <fsphil> nice upside-down trees
[10:34] <fsphil> looks like a nice day
[10:34] <S_Mark> do we know where the prediction is today?
[10:34] <fsphil> west
[10:34] <WILLdude> I guess it's my fault for supporting my best friend's brother's football team.
[10:34] <fsphil> similar path to babshab
[10:35] <G0MJW-PC> Dave is clser Jules - but he might be busy
[10:35] <WILLdude> Please tell me there will be a PIE6 from brightwalton.
[10:35] <WILLdude> Wait, what time is the launch?
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[10:36] <WILLdude> Oh 11 utc
[10:36] <fsphil> WILLdude: 13:00
[10:36] <fsphil> it's delayed by an hour
[10:36] <G0MJW-PC> I wonder if Dave managed to get a new sim?
[10:36] <fsphil> must update that
[10:36] <S_Mark> Ah cool, is he going for a record?
[10:36] <WILLdude> D'oh
[10:36] <WILLdude> NVM.
[10:36] <WILLdude> *PIE7
[10:36] <GMT> The BABSHAB team are very close to landing point, probably wandering around a field or in trees looking for it
[10:37] <WILLdude> What's different about PIE7?
[10:37] <fsphil> it doesn't exist?
[10:37] <fsphil> this one is PIE6
[10:37] <fsphil> similar deal to the last floater, but not a floater
[10:38] <fsphil> and smaller images on one channel
[10:38] <S_Mark> could go anywhere then
[10:38] <WILLdude> Oh right.
[10:38] <WILLdude> Haha
[10:38] <WILLdude> I can't count.
[10:39] <fsphil> hopefully better exposure this time too
[10:39] <WILLdude> Mhm.
[10:39] <S_Mark> pi camera again?
[10:39] <fsphil> yea
[10:39] <WILLdude> I can't track it, which is unfortunate.
[10:45] <PE7ER> pi cam is very good, i got mine yesterday
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[10:46] <gonzo_p> no batc stream yet?
[10:46] <fsphil> PE7ER: yes it is better than I expected it to be
[10:47] <fsphil> rolling shutter is annoying but it seems most cameras have that now :(
[10:47] <costyn> fsphil: unfortunately yes
[10:48] Action: SpeedEvil stabs rolling shitter.
[10:48] <SpeedEvil> shutter
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[10:48] <gonzo_p> hhh, nice typo
[10:48] <m3eav> Damn I got ISM signals blipping right in the PIE freq !!
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[10:49] <fsphil> m3eav: in both? it's using two channels so the other might be clear for you
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[10:53] <Maxell> Which freq will be the smaller JPEGs?
[10:54] <PE7ER> 434.075 has the smaller images
[10:54] <costyn> Maxell: 12:22 < daveake-M6RPI> 434.075 has the smaller images and .650 the larger ones
[10:55] <m3eav> Yeha I have it on 434.650 .075 is JUST okay
[10:55] <costyn> can anyone tell me what the smallest powersupply is I can use on the 817 if I only use it for receiving?
[10:56] <costyn> how many watts/amps?
[10:56] <m3eav> 434.650 blips for me are about one every 15-30 seconds on the edge of wher ethe signal will be, not sure how resistant the data will be to that
[10:58] <m3eav> sorry meant .0.75 blips
[10:59] <fsphil> anyone keeping tabs on the babshabs lads?
[11:00] <steve_____> yeah did they get their camera back :)
[11:00] <m3eav> http://i41.tinypic.com/vyl7pi.jpg thats what iu have to compete with fsphil
[11:00] <G0MJW-PC> Right. One FCD Pro+, One HAB amp, one power splitter, two bias-Ts and several adapters later I am receiving on both frequencies
[11:00] <steve_____> was it in one piece
[11:01] <costyn> dunno yet
[11:01] <costyn> no word from Babs yet
[11:03] <steve_____> ah - it looks like I am going to miss daveaka's flight
[11:03] <steve_____> :(
[11:04] <Maxell> costyn: you could check with multimeter in series with it
[11:05] <costyn> Maxell: yea I guess; I'll test some of the adapters we have at the space
[11:05] <chrisstubbs> costyn, I use a 12v/3A psu from an old lcd monitor for my 817
[11:05] <chrisstubbs> RX and TX
[11:05] <chrisstubbs> probably not so good for tx
[11:05] <Maxell> thanks PE7ER and costyn I've should have read more backlog
[11:06] <costyn> chrisstubbs: cool.. i'm looking for something a bit more portable than the huge stabilized thing I have now
[11:06] <PE7ER> yw maxell :)
[11:07] <Maxell> Big pictures prefferd i guess
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[11:08] <fsphil> both ideally :)
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[11:10] <Maxell> fsphil: you can't preffer both, right :P
[11:10] <Maxell> And I still need to play more ith radio-console v2
[11:10] <Maxell> so i can do bot
[11:11] <fsphil> I'm debating what to try. I don't think I can do both channels
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[11:13] <Maxell> Tje JPEG image is split into smaller chunks with each a checksum
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[11:13] <SP9UOB> hi all :-)
[11:14] <Maxell> And I think the gps location was done only evey beginning of the jpeg image
[11:15] <SP9UOB> as slow ascend ratio as possible :-)
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[11:18] <G0MJW-PC> FCD Is suffering terrible QRM.
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[11:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nice flight path for BABSHAB http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/BABSHAB/BABSHAB.html biy did it come down fast!
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[11:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right some lunch before PIE6
[11:21] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> good afternoon all
[11:21] <daveake-M6RPI> Yeah we're going down to the launch site in 10 mins
[11:21] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> what is the approx launch time of PIE6 ?
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[11:22] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> tracker says 1200UTC ish
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[11:22] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> is that still valid?
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[11:23] <chrisstubbs> 1300ish now i think
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[11:24] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> 1300 utc?
[11:24] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> or uk
[11:24] <chrisg7ogx> good afternoon all a beautiful day
[11:24] <henk_> hallo Wouter
[11:24] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> hi Henk
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[11:32] <x-f> SP9UOB, your pico's altitude graph doesn't look quite right.. :)
[11:33] <SP9UOB> x-f: thermic :-)
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[11:36] <Maxell> It's going?
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[11:36] <Maxell> ah no
[11:36] <G4MYS> PIE 6 seems to be on the move
[11:36] <Maxell> just moving to big field
[11:37] <G4MYS> rodger
[11:37] <chrisg7ogx> what does an SSDV signal look and sound like on the screen please?
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[11:38] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> SSDV is just RTTY
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[11:39] <Maxell> chrisg7ogx: at 600 baud it sounds like fast RTTY.
[11:39] <Maxell> :p
[11:39] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> so it does not look any different, except the data contained is not readable
[11:39] <Maxell> It looks like garbage in dl-fldigi.
[11:39] <chrisg7ogx> wouter and maxell tks vy much
[11:39] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> but decoded by the SSDV decoder in DL-FLDIGI
[11:39] <Maxell> np
[11:39] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> yw
[11:39] <Maxell> yeah, if you press "s" in dl-fldigi you can see the decoded data yourself.
[11:39] <chrisg7ogx> have SSDV window open in dl-fldigi
[11:40] <Maxell> k :)
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[11:40] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> ok, and now you wait ;)
[11:40] <chrisg7ogx> lol
[11:41] <chrisg7ogx> two channels just like rtty?
[11:43] <Maxell> yep
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[11:43] <Maxell> 600 hz apart
[11:43] <Maxell> http://ssdv.habhub.org/ i see trousers
[11:44] <daveake_mob> batc stream up (m0upu)
[11:45] <G0MJW-PC> Up where - I don't see it
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[11:45] <SP9UOB> hi all
[11:46] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> going to go to Delft soon to track
[11:46] <chrisstubbs> http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php
[11:46] <Maxell> RevSpace is ready
[11:46] <G0MJW-PC> Not streaming for me.
[11:47] <chrisstubbs> same actually
[11:47] <griffonbot> @StephenCornes: RT @daveake: PIE6 should launch around noon-1pm today, sending telemetry and live images. See http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp for details #raspberr& [http://twitter.com/StephenCornes/status/338622357814001664]
[11:47] <henk_> how they receive that imagesw
[11:47] <griffonbot> @StephenCornes: RT @daveake: PIE6 should launch around noon-1pm today, sending telemetry and live images. See http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp for details #raspberr& [http://twitter.com/StephenCornes/status/338622410607697920]
[11:47] <Maxell> http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?ch=3 click ukhas balloon
[11:48] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> digging the 817 out of the radio camp gear ;)
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[11:49] <m3eav> No batc stream here
[11:50] <PE2G> What is the drect link to the batc stream?
[11:51] <daveake_mob> sorry dunno
[11:52] <PE2G> I found it M0UPU at http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?ch=5
[11:52] <daveake_mob> working here
[11:53] <g4sgx-iain> Yep, that last links ol
[11:53] <g4sgx-iain> ok
[11:53] <g4sgx-iain> listed as M0UPU not UKHAS
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[11:54] <chrisstubbs> nice one PE2G
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[11:54] <G0MJW-PC> Thanks - that working now
[11:55] <m3eav> yeah thaks got it here also
[11:56] <G0MJW-PC> Time for Monaco start
[11:56] <m3eav> Monaco, damn wish i was there now...been 5 times
[11:56] <henk__> the weather there is better on the launch location then here in nl
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[11:57] <G0MJW-PC> Not hearing signals
[11:58] <GMT> henk: Dave is a weather-god and always organises good weather for his flights
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[11:58] <m3eav> shame about the shorts though....
[11:58] <Wouter-[pa3weg]> \allright, off to Delft
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[11:58] <henk__> \haha
[11:58] <GMT> those are Dave's "lucky shorts"
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[11:59] <m3eav> I would not consider myself lucky wearing them:-)
[11:59] <Maxell> m0upu stream seems to work
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[12:00] <m3eav> yeah working here...short-cam
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[12:03] <Maxell> wat chief.femalebodyinspector.com
[12:05] <PE7ER> nice job that is
[12:06] <PE7ER> (giggity)
[12:06] <GMT> I have a t-shirt that says FBI on the front, and tell people that's what it stands for
[12:06] <fsphil> g'day from das mountain :)
[12:08] <fsphil> didn't expect to get here before dave launched
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[12:09] <GMT> well, that's HAB-ish time for you
[12:09] <daveake_mob> such a sunny day seems a shame to rush :)
[12:09] <Babs> Ledbury base here. BABSHAB has landed.
[12:09] <henk__> good all recovered?
[12:09] <m3eav> hello wave on cam
[12:09] <GMT> Excellent news, glad I was able to help
[12:09] <Maxell> Babs: and recoved
[12:10] <henk__> nice
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[12:10] <GMT> was BABS up in a tree?
[12:10] <fsphil> yes it's lovely up here
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[12:11] <Babs> Hey gmt , hey everyone - thanks for all of the great help this morning
[12:15] <G4MYS> well I enjoyed it and glad yougot your ballon back safe mate Andy
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[12:15] <Babs> Hi everyone - thank agains - technically really easy recovery
[12:15] <Babs> Technically easy recovery in the middle of a field
[12:16] <chrisstubbs> KB failure, strike F1 to continue: screw you dell
[12:16] <GMT> look forward to seeing the photos
[12:16] <number10_M0MDB> looking forward to seeing the pics Babs
[12:16] <number10_M0MDB> snap
[12:16] <fsphil> I'm amazed your still awake babs
[12:16] <Babs> Hampered only by no phone signal (so no GPRS) and hence no Internet
[12:16] <Babs> Spent an hour wandering through thorns
[12:17] <GMT> Its not just Dell with the F1 problem ... almost every BIOS has it
[12:18] <chrisstubbs> GMT seems stupuid for a rack server bios though
[12:18] <chrisstubbs> *stupid, oh dear
[12:18] <Babs> So no GPRS, no Internet, ended up going back into Ledbury to get Internet, onto the shared spot page and bingo
[12:19] <Babs> Tangled parachute hence the rapid descent
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[12:20] <fsphil> ooch
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[12:21] <fsphil> all in one piece babs? (you and the payload?)
[12:21] <G0MJW-PC> Hang on 434.650 is a repeater input?
[12:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Flight path for BABSHAB http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/BABSHAB/BABSHAB.html
[12:21] <fsphil> G0MJW-PC: yep
[12:22] <G0MJW-PC> Seems odd to put a HAB there. I was wondering why there was FM QRM
[12:23] <fsphil> it's clearer in most places than .075
[12:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> ISM band still
[12:23] <fsphil> internet up here is seriously slow
[12:23] <Maxell> G0MJW-PC: yeah it wont hurt the relay but out 10 mW signal does :P
[12:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> Has the streaming not come on / failed ?
[12:24] <m3eav> streaming okay
[12:24] <m3eav> bit jerky at time but still working
[12:24] <Maxell> http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?ch=5 and click M0UPU
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[12:25] <G0MJW-PC> Got a signal
[12:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah not the UKHAS channel then where quite a few people are ?
[12:25] <Maxell> you should link them
[12:25] <daveake_mob> ok ready to launch
[12:26] <Maxell> PIE6 already has a nice catsh!
[12:26] <m3eav> go for it dave, waiting down here on Portland....
[12:26] <G4MYS> 434.650 is the input of RB2 likes of off air GB3PH on portsdown could cause problems if someone has a QSO!!
[12:26] <G0MJW-PC> Yes - more likely though to just annoy the repeater users
[12:27] <Maxell> http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2013-05-26--12-23-25-PIE6-219.jpeg
[12:27] <chrisstubbs> woosh
[12:27] <G0MJW-PC> Got it
[12:27] <PE7ER> lol a real raspberry casing too
[12:27] <g4fui> Lift off!
[12:27] <henk__> yes
[12:28] <henk__> on the nose of a boing
[12:28] <cm13g09> wehave liftoff?
[12:28] <Maxell> nice
[12:28] <daveake_mob> trying to get it on batc
[12:28] <G0MJW-PC> Great signals no data
[12:28] <G7UXW> 434.075 and 434.650 ???
[12:28] <G0MJW-PC> Both
[12:29] <G4MYS> if the repeaters has CTCC as they should do, it wont access it just jam it!! de G4MYS keeper of GB3SU
[12:29] <fsphil> G4MYS: not at 10mw it won't
[12:29] <G7UXW> Tele 434.075 Picture 434.650 ??
[12:29] <fsphil> unless it lands on the antenna
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[12:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> both pictures and I guess interlaced telemetry
[12:30] <fsphil> aah, there we go. better internet
[12:30] <G4MYS> if we can hear it a repater eeceiver will detect it surely! and also depends how close it is!
[12:30] <daveake_mob> yes interlaced
[12:30] <daveake_mob> telemetry every 30 secs ish IIRC
[12:30] <fsphil> G4MYS: switch to FM mode, you probably won't hear it
[12:30] <Darkside> G4MYS: not enough deviation to open it
[12:30] <G4MYS> tell yer waht well try it when SU come back on
[12:31] <Darkside> G4MYS: it has a 400Hz deviation
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[12:31] <G4MYS> no not open it just jam it possably or add stange sounds to a QSO throughit!
[12:31] <SP9UOB> i have floater - i think :-)
[12:31] <m3eav> up it goes.....
[12:31] <Darkside> G4MYS: never had problems here
[12:31] <cuddykid> this is great
[12:31] <Darkside> also, repeaters with ISM band inputs are a horrible idea
[12:31] <Darkside> we moves all our repeaters here off the ISM band years ago
[12:32] <Darkside> moved*
[12:32] <Maxell> 1 km up already
[12:32] <Darkside> if they do have an ISM band input, then they should have a receive tone on
[12:32] <fsphil> yes, there's a bit of a loophole. it would be legal for someone with an ISM radio to open an amateur repeater
[12:32] <number10_M0MDB> fsphil: whats the url of the live images (I forgot )
[12:32] <fsphil> number10_M0MDB: http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[12:32] <number10_M0MDB> ta
[12:32] <Darkside> G4MYS: and i'm saying this as committee member of a club with a repeater that has an ISM band input
[12:33] <Darkside> well, had
[12:33] <G0MJW-PC> Really strong data but no decode. Must be setup
[12:33] <Maxell> no
[12:33] <Darkside> we put a receive tone on and the problems generally went away
[12:33] <Maxell> the data you cant see
[12:33] <fsphil> I must get the antenna up
[12:33] <Maxell> it's binary
[12:33] <fsphil> but it's windy outside :)
[12:33] <Maxell> thats picture :P
[12:33] <G4MYS> Id be honest Ive never tried jamming my own box with RTTY !
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[12:34] <cm13g09> tracking in soton
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[12:34] <cm13g09> well, new forest
[12:34] <g4sgx-iain> SP9UOB certtainly got his ascent rate down this time.. 0.3m/s
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[12:35] <cuddykid> are you chasing this one daveake-M6RPI ?
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[12:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> 434.650 shoing on waterfall
[12:36] <chrisg7ogx> have the signals on 434.646
[12:37] <GMT> how often does it send the lat/long/alt text?
[12:38] <chrisstubbs> "telemetry every 30 secs ish IIRC"
[12:38] <G0MJW-PC> So need to increase filters. Autoconfigure didn't work
[12:38] <GMT> okay, I'm on the .075 sig, not seen any telemtry yet
[12:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> and 072
[12:38] <Babs> Testing testing
[12:38] <GMT> we hear you babs
[12:39] <Babs> So I don't know where I got to before I got out of signal but..
[12:39] <Babs> Thankyou for all of your help
[12:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> Flight path for BABSHAB http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/BABSHAB/BABSHAB.html
[12:39] <Babs> No GPRS signal didn't help, so after an hour of looking through thorns
[12:39] <Maxell> G0MJW-PC: what filter? the bandwitdh filer in dl-fldigi?
[12:39] <Babs> We went into Ledbury to get signal and looked at the spot trace
[12:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> I'll do a Pano later but yours might be netter ;-)
[12:40] <G0MJW-PC> Everything 600Hz
[12:40] <Babs> And were able to find it in the middle of field
[12:40] <G7UXW> what am I listening rtty digi sstv or ???
[12:40] <Babs> Virtually intact despite a balloon tangled parachute
[12:40] <Guest62462> ah I have a pic arriving
[12:40] <G0MJW-PC> Didnt realise it wasn't doing it automatically. Otherwise would have had launch images Hopefully Dave got them
[12:40] <pws> pse, which frequency in use at SP9UOB ???
[12:41] <SP9UOB> pws: 437.595 MHz (USB)
[12:41] <pws> tnx...!
[12:41] <Babs> One slight bit of broken plastic near the capsule but otherwise all intact and strong
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[12:42] <griffonbot> Received email: "Re: [UKHAS] Planned Launch - Saturday"
[12:42] <Babs> Bit of a pain as I was greedy with the photos - one taken every six seconds which meant that it cut out at 24000 metres
[12:42] <SpeedEvil> Babs: :)
[12:42] <fsphil> aww
[12:42] <Babs> So lower than I planned to take
[12:42] <number10_M0MDB> thats a shame
[12:42] <Babs> Albeit the gopro worked all the way up
[12:42] <SpeedEvil> :(
[12:42] <Babs> And down
[12:42] <SpeedEvil> :)
[12:42] <fsphil> possibly one of the more expensive flights then :)
[12:42] <chrisg7ogx> great sigs on .645
[12:43] <Babs> Will be interesting to see the pics anyway
[12:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> G7UXW is 600b rtty using SSDV
[12:43] <chrisstubbs> just appeared on my waterfall
[12:43] <Babs> It's actually all usable again "in space shuttle terms"
[12:43] <Babs> Ie a bit of mending and fixing on one small bit but otherwise intact
[12:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> .650 decoding on the South Coast
[12:44] <Babs> One of the gyros was still going when I found it 5 hours after launch
[12:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thats good
[12:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> be interesting to see how well that performed
[12:44] <chrisg7ogx> g8dhe what do you see?
[12:44] <Babs> Disappointing on the rate of climb but given that it burst at virtually the altitude forecast
[12:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> .072 decoding pictures as well
[12:45] <G0MJW-PC> Great images from Pie
[12:45] <chrisg7ogx> rx blocks of blue and grey on my SSDV window
[12:45] <Maxell> woot http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[12:45] <daveake-M6RPI> home
[12:45] <Babs> So it might just be heavy payload and big balloon falling outside the normal stats
[12:45] <daveake-M6RPI> how's it going?
[12:45] <Babs> Anyway, lunch! Thanks again
[12:45] <daveake-M6RPI> ah Babs .. recover it?
[12:46] <Babs> And good luck daveake for this arvo
[12:46] <daveake-M6RPI> cheers
[12:46] <daveake-M6RPI> We'll leave in a while
[12:46] <daveake-M6RPI> Lovely day to launch :)
[12:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> My received images here http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/PIE6/
[12:46] <Babs> Yes Dave - middle of a field - so technically easy apart from no Internet and no GPRS / gsm
[12:46] <chrisstubbs> ohai pussy cat
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[12:46] <Babs> So complete faff to drive somewhere to get Internet
[12:47] <Babs> And then locate and drive back
[12:47] <steve---> hiya
[12:47] <steve---> did you get your payload back Babs
[12:47] <chrisstubbs> that was directedd at daves cat on the stream lol
[12:48] <Babs> Hi steve - yes, and in good condition apart from parachute tangled chute
[12:48] <Maxell> Wow at 600 baud: Receivers: G6GZH, G0MJW, G8DHE-2, M6RPI, G7OGX, G6NLC
[12:49] <GMT> good signal, unable to decode anything, I hate SSDV!
[12:49] <steve---> excellent - that would explain the rapid descent then
[12:49] <G7UXW> You lot do make things hard to understand so where is the ssdv mode tab in DLfidgi
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[12:49] <steve---> how is pi going
[12:49] <Darkside> G7UXW: its just part of normal RTTY
[12:49] <Darkside> G7UXW: it just decodes differently
[12:49] <G7UXW> ok
[12:49] <Maxell> G7UXW: there is none, just set up RTTY for the PIE (use autoconfigure)
[12:50] <craag_G3KMI_P> Decoding nicely in the new forest :)
[12:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> Both solid signals every block decoding
[12:50] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> @Maxell, tims balloon was doing 600bd as well
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[12:50] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> and I could pick that up all the way down
[12:50] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> starting to hear it here maybe now....
[12:50] <chrsg7ogx> wonderful my first pictures
[12:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> full image no missing blocks :-)
[12:51] <daveake-M6RPI> nice :)
[12:51] <Maxell> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: yeah it happend before but I find it very hard ti track
[12:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> and no fixes either!!
[12:52] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> depends also on temperature stability
[12:52] <Maxell> Geoff-G8DHE: thats nice! Also on the funcube dongle?
[12:52] <fsphil> Geoff-G8DHE: nice
[12:52] <fsphil> just got the radio setup here
[12:52] <fsphil> early for once
[12:52] <fsphil> bit worried the wind might push the antenna over
[12:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> SDR e400/TRL8323 or what ever no pre-amp just a 20 year old WX1
[12:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> Slight HF drift on both Tx's
[12:54] <chrsg7ogx> using fcd pro plus and diamond x500
[12:54] <Babs> Exactly steve - really wrapped around.
[12:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Looked at the images yet BABS
[12:55] <Babs> Not yet, it's fairly snug in there so I'm going to take it apart piece by piece at home - should be some this evening
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[12:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> Good idea!
[12:56] <chrisstubbs> I have 2 fairly solid yellow lines coming from the 817 but the red lines on dl-fldigi just wont track it!
[12:57] <chrisstubbs> what am i doing wrong
[12:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> Make sure you have Auto track on the red bars will overlap
[12:57] <fsphil> in USB mode ok?
[12:57] <GMT> AFC on?
[12:57] <G0MJW-PC> I just turnd AFC off.
[12:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> Settings http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/PIE6/index.php?ind=17
[12:59] <chrisstubbs> setup: http://i.imgur.com/2Rt3VwE.png
[12:59] <Darkside> way too weak
[12:59] <Darkside> if thats even the signal at all
[12:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Just click the mouse on the center two align the markers looks right otherwise
[12:59] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> @RevSpace: how is the noise on 650 with you?
[13:00] <henk__> no signals to hear at this moment
[13:00] <chrisstubbs> Will wait a bit and see if its better later
[13:00] <GMT> aah, now I'm getting parts of a picture
[13:00] <chrisstubbs> yeah the red lines just drift off when you line them up
[13:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> Have you got the AFC button turned on Green ?
[13:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> lower right corner
[13:01] <henk__> how they receive pictures
[13:01] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> 650 has a load of noise here
[13:01] <henk__> 650 clean
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[13:02] <G0MJW-PC> Both clean but had to increase my filter upper bandwidth on the TS2000
[13:02] <chrsg7ogx> the signals do appear naturally noisy
[13:02] <chrsg7ogx> lots of hash either side of stronger double trace
[13:02] <GMT> how to save a local copy of the picture?
[13:02] <chrsg7ogx> and in between
[13:03] <chrsg7ogx> right click on pic
[13:03] <GMT> tvm!
[13:03] <chrsg7ogx> save as then change destination folder aS YOU SEE FIT
[13:03] <g4sgx-iain> DL-Flidgi -HAB keeps crashing.. Annoying
[13:04] <G7UXW> Cant tell if dlfidigi is working no noise appearing on waterfall
[13:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> also set save folder and enable in the DL-config
[13:04] <G0MJW-PC> Not so keen on the streamer video
[13:04] <daveake-M6RPI> That'll improve :)
[13:04] <Maxell> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: not yet in range, right?
[13:04] <g4sgx-iain> gonna re-boot. brb
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[13:04] <Maxell> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: it's clear here
[13:05] <GMT> hmmm, wasn't quick enough to save pic ... are they held anywhere local on my machine?
[13:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> See what you mean about the streamming!"
[13:06] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> yes, right
[13:06] <PE2G> g4sgx-iain: It did here too, not anymore since I set Receive FilterB bandwidth to Auto
[13:06] <fsphil> GMT: there's an option to do that, somewhere
[13:06] <fsphil> in the dl-client setup tab
[13:06] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> but noise here on the frequency :S
[13:06] <Maxell> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: http://i.imgur.com/Skq6JxS.png
[13:06] <Maxell> heh
[13:06] <Maxell> you could do the smaller pics at .075
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[13:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> To save images auto see here http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/PIE6/index.php?ind=25
[13:07] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> that small trace (short) might have been me LOL
[13:07] <GMT> thanks phil, found it!
[13:07] <G0MJW-PC> Blue sky image
[13:07] <GMT> thanks geoff
[13:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thw white balance is different on the two cameras ?
[13:08] <griffonbot> @daveake: PIE6 on its way into the stratosphere, sending lovely images see http://t.co/xZF5mgkozp http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp #raspberry_pi #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/daveake/status/338642838826938368]
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[13:09] <G0MJW-PC> 45 degrees elevation.
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[13:10] <daveake-M6RPI> Well done everyone on getting such a high packet success arte
[13:10] <daveake-M6RPI> rate
[13:10] <SP9UOB> burst...
[13:10] <g7ogxchris> why am i one and a half pictures behind the live images page please?
[13:10] <fsphil> weird, has to reboot because the ft817 kept transmitting
[13:10] <G0MJW-PC> Sorry I missed the beginning. I didn't have enough bandwidth.
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[13:10] <g7ogxchris> there have been two small breaks in tx
[13:10] <daveake-M6RPI> I hate seeing the word "burst" when I'm flying :p
[13:11] <fsphil> lol
[13:11] <SP9UOB> lol
[13:11] <g7ogxchris> fsphil vox is on?
[13:11] <fsphil> g7ogxchris: nah
[13:11] <fsphil> never used it
[13:11] <g7ogxchris> nor me
[13:11] <griffonbot> @nerdsville: RT @daveake: PIE6 on its way into the stratosphere, sending lovely images see http://t.co/xZF5mgkozp http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp #raspberry_pi #& [http://twitter.com/nerdsville/status/338643569734717440]
[13:11] <fsphil> reboot cleared it
[13:11] <SP9UOB> its not easy to get pico floating
[13:12] <fsphil> the sun has gone here on the mountain
[13:12] <fsphil> getting quite cold
[13:12] <griffonbot> @fsphil: RT @daveake: PIE6 on its way into the stratosphere, sending lovely images see http://t.co/xZF5mgkozp http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp #raspberry_pi #& [http://twitter.com/fsphil/status/338643834105901056]
[13:13] <g4fui> AOS in Penrith, no decodes yet
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[13:14] <G7UXW> DL fidigi dont work on panosonic toughbook all now fine on home desktop
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[13:15] <g7ogxchris> frequency quite wibbly wobbly
[13:15] <daveake-M6RPI> yeah not an ideal payload shape in that regard :p
[13:15] <Maxell> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: 434.650 clear now?
[13:15] <PB0NER> Not here
[13:16] <daveake-M6RPI> all taped up but it's turning in and out of the sun I think
[13:16] <Laurenceb__> little fluffy clouds
[13:16] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> nope, still loads of crap
[13:16] <g7ogxchris> wonderful pix what a great advert for HABing congratulations
[13:17] Action: daveake-M6RPI thanks fsphil
[13:17] <Maxell> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: "crap"? digital stuff from weatherstation?
[13:17] <Maxell> or just noise :P
[13:17] <PB0NER> nothing here to, heard some rtty on .075 a while ago, gone no
[13:17] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> yes, weatherstation alike
[13:17] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> but stronger and faster binary data
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[13:18] <Maxell> try .075 :)
[13:18] <PB0NER> my dl-fldigi is playing up too (os x version)
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[13:19] <G7UXW> holy moly got my first pic dfrom near space
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[13:19] <daveake-M6RPI> :)
[13:19] <G6SUQ> good feeling, isn't it.
[13:19] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> listening on both, so no need to ;)
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[13:19] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I just want both ;)
[13:20] <fsphil> I'm on .650
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[13:20] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> foud it on 071
[13:20] <G7UXW> GOT 2 NOW
[13:20] <fsphil> running both on /P would be too much
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[13:20] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I believe
[13:21] <fsphil> this car isn't big enough for all this tracking :)
[13:21] <fsphil> I'm getting bursty noises on 70cm today
[13:21] <fsphil> sounds like HF
[13:22] <Maxell> Whats the dial for PIE6 434.650?
[13:23] <henk__> yes and 434.075
[13:23] <G6SUQ> one of PIE6 is on about .648
[13:23] <Maxell> ok so a bit lower
[13:23] <G4MYS> surprised how few of are decoding.... its on 434.075Mhz
[13:23] <G6SUQ> and .075 is actually about .072
[13:23] <PB0NER> that is what i guessed, I have somet RTTY on F around 648-649
[13:24] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> still too weak
[13:24] <G4MYS> +- rx calibration of course
[13:24] <G6SUQ> that's probably it BONER
[13:24] <fsphil> I've got a trace of the signal
[13:24] <fsphil> nice, it's below my horizon
[13:24] <fsphil> by quite a bit
[13:24] <G7UXW> looking at the last pic is the ballon on its way down ??
[13:25] <Maxell> Ok I see something now
[13:25] <Darkside> not yet
[13:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> No still climbing hasn't made it to even 15Km's yet
[13:25] <Darkside> still got a long way to go before burst G7UXW
[13:26] <g4fui> Getting some SDV decodes now!
[13:26] <G6SUQ> UXW: Dave has previous history in these things ... there might be some spurious images, maybe some aeroplanes!
[13:26] <G7UXW> good getting some good quilty pics here in Godalming
[13:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> Pilots waving to the balloon even ?
[13:27] <G6SUQ> yup, that sort of thing!
[13:27] <G7UXW> hope so
[13:27] <G6SUQ> Hey, nice pic of the Bristol Channel
[13:27] <fsphil> oh nice
[13:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> Perhaps note it on the NOTAM, please wave when passing ...
[13:28] <g7ogxchris> lol we need migrating geese to come and say cheese!
[13:29] <PB0NER> see the signal on my waterfall, not stron enough to decode
[13:29] <henk__> we need pictures from fighterplanes hihi
[13:29] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> decoding here
[13:29] <G6SUQ> what about the orange F16 from the KLu?
[13:29] <henk__> haha
[13:29] <g7ogxchris> bit weak and watery here now
[13:30] <henk__> je zit ook stuk dichterbij Wouter
[13:30] <fsphil> I can hear it now
[13:30] <fsphil> still below my horizon
[13:31] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> In vergelijking met RevSpace scheelt dat bijna niets, maar de antenne comparision is niet fair
[13:31] <henk__> ok
[13:31] <henk__> pak nog niks
[13:31] <PB0NER> signal getting stronger....
[13:31] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> decoding both now
[13:32] <g7ogxchris> if you can imagine saturn's rings and pie6 as Saturn i think i am between rings of propagation right now
[13:32] <PD4KDZ_klaas> PA3WEG Hoi Wouter op welke frequentie luister je
[13:32] Action: Geoff-G8DHE Impressive flight dave
[13:33] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> Klaas: 434.648 and 434.0718
[13:33] <G6SUQ> klaas 434.648
[13:33] <PD4KDZ_klaas> oke thankz
[13:33] <fsphil> my signal always gets weaker when the payload is right on the horizon
[13:33] <fsphil> some weird refraction thing going on there
[13:33] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> fsphil: what antenna do you have
[13:34] <fsphil> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: 10-el yagi
[13:34] <steve_____> I can hear it and almost decoding the signal - I have two image packets but no telemetry
[13:34] <PB0NER> see the signal on 072, 648 is stronger
[13:34] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> OK, it could be the noise coming upo then
[13:34] <griffonbot> @G8DHE: RT @daveake: PIE6 on its way into the stratosphere, sending lovely images see http://t.co/xZF5mgkozp http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp #raspberry_pi #& [http://twitter.com/G8DHE/status/338649410168823808]
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[13:34] <G6SUQ> steve ... open up the bandwidth to abt 600
[13:34] <daveake-M6RPI> telemetry comes in evry few packets. Sometimes the images decode better because of the FEC
[13:35] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> terrestial noise is more of a problem @ horizon
[13:35] <fsphil> getting dark here.. please don't rain
[13:35] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I got quite some fading on the signal
[13:35] <steve_____> I have already :)
[13:35] <G0MJW-PC> Wouter - try circular polarisation
[13:36] <fsphil> and suddenly much stronger
[13:36] <fsphil> got a string
[13:36] <fsphil> woo
[13:36] <fsphil> and image data
[13:36] <fsphil> oh that's really strong
[13:37] <fsphil> guess being at 380m helps :)
[13:37] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> Its not my antenna, its fsphills
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[13:37] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I already have circ
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[13:37] <g4fui> How much FEC is there in an SSDV packet?
[13:37] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> my the way, Hi Mike
[13:37] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> you know what I have ;)
[13:38] <g7ogxchris> fsphil yes agree just like hunt for red october..hiding in the cold layer
[13:38] <G0MJW-PC> Hi Wouter. Yes. I have circular and it helps a lot. But currently the elevation is 55 degrees so signal is strong
[13:38] <G6SUQ> the book was better than the film
[13:38] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> 0.3 degrees from delft
[13:38] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> getting all the crap in th beam
[13:39] <fsphil> g4fui: 32 bytes of RS codes, can normally correct 16 byte errors
[13:39] <fsphil> but will sometimes fix more
[13:39] <PB0NER> (and bot are technically utter crap)
[13:39] <PB0NER> both
[13:39] <g4fui> Ta, it's a mode which clearly needs it!
[13:39] <fsphil> yes this would be very tricky without it
[13:40] <Maxell> No good decodes here :/
[13:40] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I lost it fora moment as well
[13:41] <g7ogxchris> g6suq ok tks will get it
[13:41] <g4fui> I'm seeing a LOT of fading here
[13:41] <fsphil> it is a bit fady
[13:41] <griffonbot> @pimoroni: RT @daveake: PIE6 on its way into the stratosphere, sending lovely images see http://t.co/xZF5mgkozp http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp #raspberry_pi #& [http://twitter.com/pimoroni/status/338651049747427328]
[13:41] <fsphil> arg, rain
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[13:41] <fsphil> glad I didn't put the FCD out at the antenna
[13:43] <fsphil> sounds windy up there
[13:43] <G4MYS> why go in a line when you can go in circles?
[13:44] <fsphil> lol
[13:44] <iain_G4SGX> Very faint now in Norfolk. No decodes.
[13:45] <fsphil> 149 is a good pic
[13:45] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> circles are the new lines
[13:45] <G4MYS> I have noted it was stronger when it was lower, due to where it is it was 66km at start and now is only 72km away
[13:46] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> nice one image 150
[13:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Interesting colour to 150
[13:46] <daveake-M6RPI> I should have made those smaller images larger - the boring ones download so quickly it doesn't have any images to choose from for the next one
[13:46] <PB0NER> still no joy here
[13:48] <nommo> my alu wire 2m/70cm antenna works better than the coax dipole :) I think I can hear PIE6 but no decodes
[13:48] <G4MYS> freq I can hear on is 434.075Mhz
[13:49] <steve_____> I have managed to tune to both but still only two image decodes and no telemetry
[13:49] <g7ogxchris> much weaker here now
[13:49] <fsphil> yea just faded out for me
[13:49] <G0MJW-PC> Some nulls
[13:49] <G6SUQ> I've lost the signals too
[13:50] <fsphil> and coming back
[13:50] <steve_____> I think I need to invest in the filter
[13:50] <PE2G> Weak signal on .649 here, no decodes yet
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[13:51] <G0MJW-PC> An MX5?
[13:51] <m3eav> too weak here, got some pics with bits missing but mostly too weak to decode
[13:52] <m3eav> can't wait until yagi's here for the g5500, on co0linear right now
[13:52] <fsphil> the bits are important - it could be a bit nobody else got
[13:52] <m3eav> does fl-digi not save part pics? if so where?
[13:53] <fsphil> m3eav: in configuration, DL Client -> Enable tab
[13:53] <fsphil> there's an option 'Save images' in the SSDV bit
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[13:53] <fsphil> it takes the name of a directory
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[13:53] <m3eav> thanks fsphil
[13:54] <fsphil> another fade
[13:54] <nommo> predicted landing is my parents in law's farm ;)
[13:54] <fsphil> hah
[13:54] <G7UXW> last pic very white wny ??
[13:54] <G6SUQ> should be okay for a cup of tea then
[13:55] <fsphil> actually that prediction assumes a lower burst than it probably will have
[13:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Climbing faster than forward speed!
[13:55] <G0MJW-PC> Nice image looking down
[13:55] <fsphil> drat, I'm hungry - didn't think of bringing food
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[13:57] <nommo> head for minety - i'll get my daughter to go fetch it on her horse ;)
[13:57] <steve_____> in terms of squash and gain
[13:57] <steve_____> does it make much difference tuning them in GQRX?
[13:57] <G6SUQ> she could be /p ... that's /pony
[13:58] <fsphil> oh dear
[13:58] <mfa298> fsphil: obvious fail there. you should have taken bacon and rolls for proper mobile hab experience
[13:58] <nommo> ah yes - pony sorry :)
[13:58] Action: daveake-M6RPI is shocked
[13:58] <fsphil> yes. I messed up big time
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[13:59] <chrisstubbs> not sure where to mount the magmount on a horse though
[13:59] Action: mfa298 hopes fsphil has better internet than where I am in the new forest.
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[13:59] <fsphil> it's actually pretty good now mfa298
[13:59] <PB0NER> starting to get some decodes...
[13:59] <fsphil> I put the phone into 3G-only mode ant it got faster
[13:59] <nommo> fsphil: are you chasing?
[14:00] <fsphil> nommo: nah, too far away
[14:00] <PE2G> No ' below the horizon decoding' at 600 bd
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[14:00] <mfa298> we've got a 3G dongle about 5m up a fibre glass pole and very slow internet
[14:00] <fsphil> I'm up a mountain so have a slight advantage
[14:00] <fsphil> though it's still not super speedy
[14:00] <mfa298> craag_G3KMI_P: has been unable to upload any pictures so far
[14:00] <nommo> ahh - sorry i thought you were chasing & needing bacon... i am dipping in and out of irc
[14:01] <fsphil> not chasing but still in need of bacon
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[14:02] <fsphil> this laptop screen isn't great in daylight
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[14:03] <nommo> I've had bacon and still in need of bacon :)
[14:03] <costyn> daveake-M6RPI: awesome pics! :D
[14:03] <costyn> fsphil: when is one ever not in need of bacon?
[14:04] <G6SUQ> when there is unicorn available
[14:04] <costyn> fsphil: I finally found a laptop where the polarization of the screen correctly lines up with the polarization of my sunglasses, so I can wear them and still see the screen :)
[14:04] <henk__> decoding now
[14:04] <fsphil> hah, sneaky
[14:04] <g7ogxchris> costyn yes but what position are you in/
[14:04] <costyn> fsphil: my previous one was off by 45 degrees, making it somewhat dark and not very useful
[14:04] <G7UXW> outsatndind pics here in godalming
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[14:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> beginning to see some flutter
[14:05] <costyn> g7ogxchris: everything is right side up ;)
[14:05] <g7ogxchris> lol
[14:05] <daveake-M6RPI> costyn thanks :)
[14:05] <g7ogxchris> losing packets here :@
[14:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> 166 image looks like the Severn
[14:06] <daveake-M6RPI> fsphil SSDV site holding up well :)
[14:06] <G6SUQ> 166 is the Severn Estuary and the Bristol Channel
[14:06] <costyn> fsphil: you have a chase car on the map though
[14:06] <PE2G> First good decodes at 566 km: http://s23.postimg.org/tifx6uikb/Screen886.jpg
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[14:07] <g7ogxchris> {must gety beam
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[14:07] <griffonbot> @ukscone: RT @daveake: PIE6 on its way into the stratosphere, sending lovely images see http://t.co/xZF5mgkozp http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp #raspberry_pi #& [http://twitter.com/ukscone/status/338657617226366977]
[14:07] <costyn> PE2G: why is the signal so wavy? is it that way for everyoen?
[14:07] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> @PE2G no idea when I started decoding
[14:07] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> yes, it is
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[14:07] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I presume rotation and/or dangling antenna?
[14:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes it seems to be the same on both channels and not simply flutter
[14:08] <PE2G> costyn. It's not typical for my rx
[14:08] <costyn> PE2G: I've seen it before, but it seems to have a logical explanation
[14:09] <henk__> lost the signal
[14:09] <costyn> any news from Babs?
[14:09] <PB0NER> decoding here, mostly CRC errors, uploaded some telemetry
[14:09] <g7ogxchris> maybe movement of balloon
[14:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> If it spins I wonder if we are seeing doppler ? The ground speed and climb aren't sufficent to see I don't thik
[14:10] <bertrik> 1 m/s speed at 435 MHz results in 1.45 Hz doppler
[14:10] <costyn> Geoff-G8DHE: wouldn't doppler mean the antenna isn't in the center of the spin?
[14:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> not sure how its oriented Dave ideas ?
[14:11] <g7ogxchris> the angle and distance between balloon and receivers is changing quickly..
[14:11] <costyn> bertrik: how did you calculate that?
[14:11] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> S7 signal hre
[14:11] <nommo> OMG!! I decoded a packet w000t!
[14:11] <g7ogxchris> congrats nommo
[14:12] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> omnommonommonommo ;)
[14:12] Action: nommo happy
[14:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> Actually the wobble is only a few 10's of hertz so 10-30m/s
[14:12] <G6SUQ> Costyn: BABS recovered intact from the middle of a field
[14:13] <nommo> And telemetry :D
[14:13] <griffonbot> @PeterG_Weather: Live pics from weather balloon over UK! MT @daveake http://t.co/u6PUjHCzI5 http://t.co/lxWnfEgegb #raspberry_pi #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/PeterG_Weather/status/338659143260983297]
[14:13] <PE2G> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: Your first decodes at Pic 127, time 13:25:30
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[14:14] <nommo> thanks g7ogxchris & Wouter-[pa3weg]1 :)
[14:14] <steve_____> yay - I just got telemetry as well
[14:14] <bertrik> costyn: I'm using the approximation v/c = f / F, where v = speed, c = lightspeed, f = shift and F = centre frequency
[14:14] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> no idea what the distance was then
[14:15] <costyn> G6SUQ: fantastic, that's great news
[14:15] <nommo> go on my little E4000 & bonsai wire antenna...
[14:16] <cuddykid> does this have a stills camera on too daveake ?
[14:16] <g4fui> How are the two payload transmitters isolated from one another?
[14:17] <fsphil> antenna fell over
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[14:17] <fsphil> silly wind
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[14:18] <cuddykid> brilliant photos
[14:19] <fsphil> yes this is working really well
[14:19] <steve_____> I think there may be some learning points :)
[14:20] <LazyL_M0LEP> Hmmm... Something about the setup I have just gets nowhee at 600.
[14:20] <GMT> Im having some success with the larger pictures on.650, which is a good feeling
[14:20] <steve_____> I can't decode much at all but can hear it
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[14:20] <tobydj> is this with raspberry camera?
[14:20] <GMT> steve____: you location?
[14:20] <daveake_> batc should be more interesting now :)
[14:20] <daveake_> yes pi cam
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[14:21] <PB0NER> Hmm If I had a pre-amp.....
[14:21] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> almost at 30km
[14:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> daveake how are the two aerials oriented with respect to spinning ?
[14:21] <griffonbot> @LandscapeMan: RT @PeterG_Weather: Live pics from weather balloon over UK! MT @daveake http://t.co/u6PUjHCzI5 http://t.co/lxWnfEgegb #raspberry_pi #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/LandscapeMan/status/338661272189022209]
[14:21] <PB0NER> Something tells me, I need to drive 5km to see some decoding....
[14:22] <PE2G> Image 183, is that Bristol Channel?
[14:22] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> ;)
[14:22] <cuddykid> yep
[14:22] <daveake_mob> They're about 164mm apart
[14:22] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> If you want, you are welcome
[14:22] <daveake_mob> and share one gp radial
[14:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> pointing down or would they spin around an axis ?
[14:22] <PB0NER> no joy for 14 min now
[14:22] <fsphil> lost 3 packets of that last big image
[14:22] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> also busy crimping cables...
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[14:23] <GMT> image 182 ... the Bristol Channel on the right, and the English Channel in the top left corner
[14:23] <PE2G> Really great photos!
[14:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> 166 is the larger image of Bristol channel
[14:23] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> hi dave
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[14:24] <daveake_mob> hi
[14:24] <daveake_mob> bit bouncy here can't type easily
[14:24] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> 30km reached
[14:24] <g4dpz> hi wouter though i might find you and graham here :-)
[14:24] <daveake_mob> no I'm not driving :p
[14:24] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> Yup, although I did not see Graham type yet
[14:25] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> If it goes to space or near it, I´m on it :D
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[14:26] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> how is the warehouse receiving the FUNcube-1 EM?
[14:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> both signal strengths dropping slowly, but beyond 30Km's ......
[14:26] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> Should still be decoding @ home
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[14:27] <fsphil> my home station hasn't decoded anything yet
[14:27] <chrisstubbs> Can anyone tell me what type of RF connector these are? http://bit.ly/16iopH4
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[14:28] <g4fui> Finally had a telemetry decode @353km
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[14:28] <fsphil> oh, G3WDI is a bit lagged
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[14:29] <fsphil> 196 is good
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[14:30] <PE2G> 196 is very nice
[14:30] Action: LazyL_M0LEP presumes 600 baud makes a good case for yagi use...
[14:30] <fsphil> yes :)
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[14:31] <fsphil> I doubt I'd be decoding anything without the yagi
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[14:31] <fsphil> not at this distance anyway
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[14:31] <daveake_mob> fsphil 600 baud dist record?
[14:31] <g4dpz> .
[14:31] <fsphil> daveake_mob: hmm not sure actually
[14:31] <fsphil> 500km at the start
[14:31] <fsphil> it's moved a bit closer to me since then
[14:32] <daveake_mob> start a table in the wiki :)
[14:32] <G7UXW> Using white stick here in Godalming IO91QE
[14:32] <daveake_mob> what alt is the live prediction assuming?
[14:32] <fsphil> oh my home station got an image packet
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[14:32] <fsphil> probably 34km daveake_mob
[14:32] <LazyL_M0LEP> Signal at .650 (nominal) is quite loud, but doesn't seem to want to decode here. Signal at .075 (nominal) is not quite as strong. dl-fldigi doesn't seem to want to lock onto either of them.
[14:33] <daveake_mob> ok try 40 plz
[14:33] <fsphil> k
[14:33] <daveake_mob> ta
[14:34] <G0MJW-PC> Going up fast now.
[14:34] <daveake_mob> yeah that's h2 for you
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[14:34] <fsphil> 40 now
[14:34] <fsphil> probably have to refresh
[14:34] <G0MJW-PC> 600 Hz bandwidth
[14:34] <daveake_mob> ta
[14:36] <m3eav> woot, i'm on ssdv images..well i got one bit then :-)
[14:37] <g7ogxchris> im back into a ring of propagation..much stronger now
[14:37] <m3eav> i was but faded out again
[14:38] <fsphil> home station decoding some more
[14:38] <fsphil> this is neat
[14:38] <iain_G4SGX> 205 a nice pic
[14:39] <G0MJW-PC> Nice image 0xCD
[14:39] <PB0NER> have soem reception on 650.5
[14:39] <GMT> 182 is my fave, shame it wasn't bigger
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[14:39] <LazyL_M0LEP> Ah yes... Bandwidth is a necessity... Thanks. ;)
[14:39] <PB0NER> needed to tweak fl-digi for S/N >10
[14:40] <chrisstubbs> just came close to getting that telem string just pointing the yagi out the window
[14:40] <chrisstubbs> why the hell did i turn down a free 3m long 70cms yagi the other day?
[14:40] <G0MJW-PC> back down to 45 degrees elevation
[14:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> strength coming back up again here elevation 11.5
[14:41] <fsphil> nice, got every packet from 202
[14:41] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> 649.7 here martijn
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[14:41] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> are you on USB?
[14:42] <PB0NER> am I born?
[14:42] <G0MJW-PC> Wow - next image!
[14:42] <cuddykid> these really are superb images
[14:42] Action: fsphil slaps chrisstubbs :p
[14:42] <fsphil> when someone offers you a 3m long 70cm yagi, you say YES :)
[14:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> 7m/s
[14:42] <cuddykid> that's one big yagi
[14:43] <LazyL_M0LEP> Ok... What should the upload URL be? I'm getting 404s
[14:43] <cuddykid> daveake_mob: should be able to catch this when it comes down ;)
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[14:43] <daveake_mob> hah
[14:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.sanslogic.co.uk/ssdv/data.php
[14:44] <daveake_mob> I shall need a target postcode/village please when it's coming down
[14:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> for ssdv upload
[14:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> Currently village Minety
[14:44] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> could be LSB with invert on
[14:45] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> works just as well and explains you being above 650
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[14:45] <fsphil> another full image
[14:45] <fsphil> this is great
[14:45] <LazyL_M0LEP> Thanks
[14:45] <fsphil> I need this yagi setup at home
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[14:46] <PE2G> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: What kind of antenna are you using?
[14:46] <m3eav> i got a wimo x-quad on g-5500 setting up soon RHCP will be interesting
[14:48] <G0MJW-PC> Burst?
[14:48] <fsphil> burst
[14:48] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> @PE2G: I´m using a circular yagi 15 elements (so 30 elements total)
[14:48] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> busrst
[14:48] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> yes, defo according to the sound
[14:49] <g7ogxchris> mega drop in signal
[14:49] <PB0NER> gone?
[14:49] <daveake_mob> ok stopped waiting for burst
[14:49] <G0MJW-PC> good prediction!
[14:49] <daveake_mob> oh
[14:49] <PE2G> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: Is working nicely!
[14:49] <fsphil> sounds reallly spinny
[14:49] <daveake_mob> probably is really spinny :p
[14:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> tumbling I think
[14:49] <GMT> 39441 metres, can't complain about that
[14:49] <daveake_mob> nope
[14:50] <daveake_mob> should settle down in a while
[14:50] <daveake_mob> fingers crossed
[14:50] <G0MJW-PC> Bet Dave was hoping for more than 40k
[14:50] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> http://www.pa3weg.nl/ --> same system as in the picture
[14:50] <m3eav> THINK ITS BURST
[14:51] <G0MJW-PC> Getting data gain.
[14:51] <henk_> yes it is
[14:51] <g7ogxchris> geoff yes sounds tumbly
[14:51] <daveake_mob> yes dave was but dave is still happy :)
[14:51] <fsphil> it's in a hurry
[14:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> Post code is SN16 9QH at present
[14:51] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> RXing fist image after burst
[14:51] <daveake_mob> cheers
[14:51] <GMT> prediction update, now west of Tetbury
[14:51] <PE2G> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: Great! What is the antenna height?
[14:51] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> lots of problems due to spin
[14:51] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> that one is 100m ASL
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[14:51] <G0MJW-PC> 61m/s!
[14:51] <g7ogxchris> hope Dave is well strapped in ;@}
[14:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Take it back its changed a lot
[14:52] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> the one im using now only abt 15m ASL
[14:52] <PE2G> OK
[14:52] <g7ogxchris> it tried to slow spin then
[14:52] <costyn> anybody got dial freq's?
[14:52] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> 434.64977
[14:52] <PE2G> Wouter-[pa3weg]1: It must have a free horizon to the West
[14:53] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> and 434.072
[14:53] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> changing fast
[14:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its shot out th village of Tetbury on A433
[14:53] <fsphil> no chance of me decoding this anymore. but that was great. gonna pack up the yagi
[14:53] <fsphil> hopefully it slows down a bit
[14:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> signal juststarting to improve for me a little
[14:54] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> chute problems
[14:54] <Maxell> uh-oh
[14:54] <fsphil> it sounds like it's slowing down
[14:54] <fsphil> yea
[14:54] <fsphil> falling sideways maybe
[14:54] <g7ogxchris> brakes on
[14:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> daveake_mob landing location changing a lot back now close to Minety
[14:55] <fsphil> it's not a great shape to be honest :)
[14:55] <SP9UOB> Pico recovered
[14:55] <fsphil> in terms of being aerodynamic
[14:55] <nommo> Hah - I've got to go pick my daughter up from Minety now - I'll keep my eyes open for a falling raspberry :)
[14:55] <chrisstubbs> Nice one SP9UOB
[14:55] <fsphil> lol
[14:56] <fsphil> "daddy... what's that spinny red thing..."
[14:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> daveake_mob you need to slow down its looking to be South of your current position
[14:56] <fsphil> gone here
[14:56] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> any dutchies still picking it up?
[14:57] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I can still see the 075 one, but 650 is gone here
[14:57] <PE2G> No decodes after the burst here
[14:57] <g7ogxchris> no chute?
[14:57] <daveake_mob> ok that's changed a lot!!
[14:57] <daveake_mob> 18" cchute
[14:58] <g7ogxchris> .650 quite strong here sounds like grand prix!!
[14:58] <cuddykid> where are you going daveake_mob ?!
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[14:59] <daveake_mob> rbout turning
[14:59] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> dropping like a brick if you ask me
[14:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> daveake_mob Its on the B4696 close to bbend in M4 no postcodes
[14:59] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> temperature drift going crazy
[15:00] <daveake_mob> ok
[15:00] <m3eav> i wonder if someone could write a bit for fl-digi or somethign to help track them with a g-5500?
[15:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> daveake_mob 4Km north of Royal Wotton Bassett
[15:01] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> its there
[15:01] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> HABRotate
[15:01] <m3eav> oh
[15:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> .075 coming back up in strength
[15:01] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> https://www.thecraag.com/HABrotate
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[15:02] <GMT> I'm keeping my powder dry ... I will wait until its fall has stabilised before passing on a prediction
[15:02] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> he made one HAMlib compatible
[15:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> decodong again
[15:02] <g7ogxchris> B4553??
[15:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> decoding even
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[15:03] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> completely gone gere
[15:03] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> whats the altitude?
[15:03] <g7ogxchris> sounds like thomas the tank engine
[15:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> last report 8.5Kms
[15:03] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> whow, that is quick
[15:03] <G0MJW-PC> 7.2km last one I got
[15:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> -16.3m/s
[15:04] <G0MJW-PC> Sounds intermittant - like aerials knocking together maybe
[15:04] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> well, that puts me well out of footprint
[15:04] <cuddykid> wow, that has dropped fast
[15:04] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> I guess I got all that I could
[15:04] <G0MJW-PC> Now it has stabilised
[15:05] <Wouter-[pa3weg]1> 219 was the last image I got
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[15:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> daveake_mob Ashton road on your left
[15:07] <daveake_mob> yep
[15:07] <daveake_mob> aiming for puton as only plc i cld c on map
[15:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> daveake_mob crosses over to Braydon road 3Km south
[15:07] <GMT> predictyed landing at 51.5671 -1.89497
[15:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> Your decodong now
[15:08] <G0MJW-PC> Gone all scratch again
[15:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> signals all gone now for me
[15:09] <G0MJW-PC> 2900m
[15:10] <fsphil> nice motion blur
[15:10] <g7ogxchris> interesting buzzes there on frequency
[15:10] <G0MJW-PC> 2100m
[15:11] <g7ogxchris> 650 visible on screen...now gone
[15:11] <chrisstubbs> M0UPU batc stream not working for me
[15:11] <m3eav> me neither
[15:11] <G0MJW-PC> Getting weak
[15:11] <m3eav> comes down a lot quicker than a radiosonde:-)
[15:11] <G0MJW-PC> 1009m
[15:12] <fsphil> black image?
[15:12] <G0MJW-PC> $$PIE,1189 15:12:08,51.5736,-1.89547,00656,24,82,9*1534
[15:12] <G7UXW> thats it about it here in Godalming sig too weak what a great afternoon my thanks for putting up PIE6
[15:12] <G0MJW-PC> Lost it
[15:13] <m3eav> yeah thanks here too, first time i did one of these, look forward ot my yagi's and g-5500 going up
[15:13] <G0MJW-PC> Best estimate 51.5736,-1.89547,00656
[15:13] <nommo> silence here
[15:13] <steve_____> there are some great images there - well done!
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[15:14] <nommo> right - better go get the daughter! I'll try to connect when I get there to see if you need to borrow a chainsaw ;)
[15:14] <PE2G> m3eav: You are also chasing met-sondes?
[15:14] <g7ogxchris> m3eav yes me too
[15:15] <G6SUQ> and me (sometimes)
[15:15] <m3eav> yes i do the 404 sondes to
[15:15] <m3eav> but i am on Portland so only rare it comes this way
[15:16] <PE2G> Anyone of you who recovered an sgp on 403 from Reading?
[15:16] <m3eav> Larkhill and Camborne are my two sondes, camborne being the most likley to hit me, had one a few weeks back that almost landed on me but then overshot and went into the sea:-)
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[15:16] <PE2G> Bummer
[15:17] <G6SUQ> usually hear the Reading/403 ones, but they almost always fly over me
[15:17] <m3eav> is there a chase stream gonna be active?
[15:17] <fsphil> should be down now
[15:17] <G0MJW-PC> Flaxlands Lane Dave
[15:17] <G0MJW-PC> Next left
[15:18] <PE2G> The French have this: http://f5jtz.free.fr/js/espion.php
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[15:18] <PE2G> Nobody active now
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[15:20] <PE2G> G6SUQ: I am curious about the Reading 403, they have Aux. data, must be something special
[15:20] <G6SUQ> thanks, I will try that when I next hear a met-sonde
[15:20] <m3eav> bye all, see you next time....
[15:20] <PE2G> Bye
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[15:21] <G0MJW-PC> Hi Dave.
[15:21] <G6SUQ> yes, that's the only sonde that I've seen with it. I'm too close to Reading, it will always overfly me, unless it bursts very early
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[15:21] <G7UXW> r=$$PIE,710,13:11:48,51.54369,-1.38755,09742,44,322, 9*1264 ==================73 Kevin G7UXW IO91qe==============
[15:22] <G0MJW-PC> Dave - not that road.
[15:22] <PE2G> G6SUQ: I don't know anybody who ever recovered a Reading
[15:23] <daveake_mob> wrong road?
[15:23] <G6SUQ> there was one this week, went due south to almost the coast, turned 90 degrees, and went west
[15:23] <G0MJW-PC> Yes.
[15:23] <daveake_mob> not a sausage on the radio
[15:23] <G0MJW-PC> 51.5736,-1.89547,00656
[15:23] <daveake_mob> ah ta
[15:23] <G0MJW-PC> Back to the B road you just left, continue about 1k left
[15:23] <daveake_mob> ta
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[15:26] <PE2G> G6SUQ:: I guess that it's this one: http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/Data/CurrentWeather/wcd/blog/research-radiosondes/
[15:26] <PE2G> Figure 4
[15:26] <chrisstubbs> daveake_mob, as G0MJW-PC said. Left at the crossroads (towards greenhill farm nurseries). then 3rd left after that (straight after a red phone box)
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[15:27] <G0MJW-PC> But that was still 600m altitude, so it is probably nearer the junction you are just at now
[15:28] <gonzo_p> dave shoul be hearing summut by now?
[15:29] <G0MJW-PC> Just there
[15:31] <daveake_mob> not a thing
[15:31] <G6SUQ> PE2G: thanks for that, most interesting ... had not seen that.
[15:32] <G0MJW-PC> It was coming down fast. 600m and 10m/s so a minutes worth of movement.
[15:32] <cuddykid> perhaps smashed on impact - was coming down quite a rate
[15:32] <cuddykid> alternatively buried in the copse
[15:32] <cuddykid> but still should be able to hear
[15:32] <G6SUQ> PE2G: in the last month, Reading sondes have landed near Stowmarket and north of bedford ... too far for me to travel. maybe one day.
[15:32] <daveake_mob> that 600m reading is definite? It's not on the map
[15:33] <G4MYS> Ive just looked at the picys wow! great to have done my bit on the decodeing but thanks to you lads for putting it up there!
[15:33] <G0MJW-PC> No but it looked good enough and agreed with the 1000m one. There was an error just after the timestamp
[15:33] <G0MJW-PC> $$PIE,1189 15:12:08,51.5736,-1.89547,00656,24,82,9*1534
[15:34] <cuddykid> it was predicted to go more south than that
[15:34] <daveake_mob> ok because looking at the prediction on the map it's not near here
[15:34] <cuddykid> I think the long might be out (I think it's long)
[15:34] <G4MYS> the data did not seem to be getting through I was decodeing for a long time but mycall did not show as being there
[15:34] <cuddykid> i.e. - correct left/right
[15:35] <cuddykid> but I think more south
[15:35] <cuddykid> I should certainly have span around south as it descended
[15:35] <PE2G> G6SUQ: I understand. On Apr 4, a Reading almost made it to the NL: http://s13.postimg.org/712iqx6fr/Screen794.jpg
[15:35] <chrisstubbs> daveake_mob, try looking in the general direction of that big phone mast if you have a yagi
[15:36] <PE2G> G6SUQ: But the tx cut out too early :(
[15:36] <cuddykid> I'd be tempted to pootle around on Flaxlands ln
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[15:37] <cuddykid> between Morris's copse and firth copse - the prediction won't be far out
[15:37] <PE2G> G6SUQ: It was an unintentional floater
[15:38] <PE2G> Correct date was Apr 12, BTW
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[15:42] <G6SUQ> PE2G: I just wish there was a way to know when they were going to fly from Reading ... they seem completly random
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[15:43] <PE2G> Yes, that's the problem
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[15:43] <PE2G> A fellow sonde chaser wrote an emal to them but no reply yet
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[15:44] <G6SUQ> PE2G: the only bright spot with Reading ... they only seem to launch for a midday flight
[15:44] <PE2G> At the French tracker site they do notice them often
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[15:47] <PE2G> Yes, Reading allow you to get some sleep...
[15:48] <chrisstubbs> any trace of signals daveake_mob?
[15:48] <daveake_mob> IT'S BEEN FOUND
[15:48] <daveake_mob> Guy just called me up
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[15:49] <chrisstubbs> oooo nice
[15:49] <chrisstubbs> :)
[15:49] <G0MJW-PC> Where was it?
[15:50] <PE2G> Congratulations :)
[15:50] <daveake_mob> dunno just going there now#
[15:51] <daveake_mob> he seemed friendly
[15:51] <G0MJW-PC> he is probably please with the reward
[15:51] <PE7ER> it did not hit him on the head then? :p
[15:51] <Jokull_> I guess the guy was playing tennis...
[15:51] <daveake_mob> it missed his caravan
[15:52] <Jokull_> yeah, you kust passed the tennis court... I retract my bet :)
[15:53] <number10_M0MDB> is it near blackfords turf and topsoil
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[15:58] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Oh good news, got dragged away as the outside loo was oveflowing!
[15:59] <G0MJW-PC> Seems to have travelled a long way further East
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[16:01] <gb73d> did anyone copy the Polish ballon w the 29mhz rtty tx ?
[16:02] <SP9UOB> gb73d: lots of Polish HAMS :-)
[16:03] <cuddykid> wow
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[16:03] <cuddykid> lucky that didn't land on the house
[16:03] <SP9UOB> gb73d: anyway - band was closed
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[16:03] <cuddykid> much further east than prediction
[16:03] <SP9UOB> gb73d: no propagation at all :-(
[16:03] <G0MJW-PC> How did it get so far from the expected place? Maybe GPS issues
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[16:04] <G0MJW-PC> Travelled by car?
[16:04] <SpeedEvil> Aliens.
[16:04] <nommo> where did it end up (sorry - just logged in at the in laws)
[16:04] <G0MJW-PC> Middle of Swindon
[16:05] <nommo> oh! thanks :)
[16:05] <cuddykid> time to crack out the bottle of bubbly for the chap! haha
[16:05] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Nah guy picked it up and drove home I bet!
[16:06] <G4MYS> Noted the receivers decoding data was not being processed it was at 8000M for some time thus drifted further then we thought?
[16:06] <G0MJW-PC> That wold explain the lack of signals.
[16:07] <G0MJW-PC> It can't have caught the Bus as it is a Sunday.
[16:07] <Jokull_> I guess the actual last minute of position tracking will have been stored on the Raspberry Pi SD-card...
[16:07] <number10_M0MDB> the guy who picked it up has nice slippers
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[16:07] <G4MYS> so what is image 91 then?
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[16:08] <nommo> gotta go get the other daughter now!
[16:08] <number10> presume 91 is slippers of chap who picked it up
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[16:08] <G4MYS> me thinks so too!
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[16:09] <number10> looks like daveake_mob didnt stay for a cuppa
[16:09] <G0MJW-PC> Dragging it behind the car
[16:12] <gb73d> SP all copied re 10m rtty I listened from here QTH S England, no propo, glad the tx worked maybe next time
[16:16] <Geoff-G8DHE_> looks like Swindon has a Red Light district!
[16:16] <G4MYS> form a Q then!
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[16:20] <griffonbot> @stratodean: The moment you have been waiting for! Post, pictures and video of our second launch are now online! http://t.co/V01O3sMgkl #woopwoop #ukhas [http://twitter.com/stratodean/status/338691178746744834]
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[16:21] <daveake_mob> Recovered
[16:21] <daveake_mob> What a hoot
[16:21] <daveake_mob> Reason it's here is cos the guy took it home
[16:22] <G0MJW-PC> So he could phone you..
[16:22] <daveake_mob> yep
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[16:22] <daveake_mob> And he found it on that dead-end road I was on
[16:22] <G0MJW-PC> Must have landed on the road
[16:22] <daveake_mob> Anyway going home see y'all later
[16:22] <daveake_mob> It did hit tarmac
[16:22] <G0MJW-PC> Where?
[16:22] <daveake_mob> And ALL the balloon is still there
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[16:23] <daveake_mob> Outside a turf&fencing place
[16:23] <Geoff-G8DHE_> wow no wonder it cane down fastish
[16:23] <chrisstubbs> Result on recovery daveake_mob
[16:23] <anerDev> hi guys
[16:24] <anerDev> daveake_mob is daveake ? O.0
[16:24] <anerDev> I need an information from him
[16:24] <anerDev> *he
[16:24] <G0MJW-PC> Blackfords? Exactly where I said it was!
[16:25] <Jokull_> 113: Buzz Lightyear :)
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[16:26] <chrisstubbs> anerDev, he has just recovered Pie and on the way home
[16:26] <anerDev> what's a Pie ?!
[16:26] <G4MYS> better then being in thick scub or 60ft up a tree!
[16:27] <chrisstubbs> anerDev, Raspberry Pi payload
[16:27] <anerDev> ahh ok ok
[16:27] <anerDev> next hour return at home ?
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[16:28] <anerDev> I'm curious about the content of this: http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=1030
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[16:33] <chrisstubbs> what would you like to know?
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[16:35] <anerDev> wha't the radio on the left ?
[16:35] <anerDev> the component bottom-right
[16:35] <anerDev> and bottom-left
[16:35] <chrisstubbs> bottom left is a webcam
[16:35] <chrisstubbs> bottom right is a USB hub or a 3G dongle
[16:36] <chrisstubbs> not sure what the model of radio is
[16:36] <g6gzh> zoom in on http://www.daveakerman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/P1070666.jpg
[16:36] <g6gzh> it's an Icom IC-R10
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[16:37] <chrisstubbs> ah the bottom right device is actually a USB 3G dongle wifi hotspot that you plug your USB dongle into
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[16:44] <nommo> Has PIE been recovered?
[16:44] <chrisstubbs> nommo, yes
[16:45] <chrisstubbs> It was found by someone and taken back to swindon where they called dave
[16:45] <nommo> cool - is that dave's buzz tshirt?
[16:46] <nommo> extra exciting when it happens in your neck of the woods...
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[16:56] <griffonbot> @daveake: Pie6 recovered intact more news later #raspberry_pi #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/daveake/status/338700106746458112]
[16:56] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[17:05] <steve_____> so did Dave recover his payload
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[17:07] <nommo> he did - someone picked it up & called him from swindon
[17:07] <steve_____> nice
[17:07] <steve_____> its nice that someone called him - how far away was he
[17:08] <nommo> not very far AFAIK - i wasn't around
[17:08] <steve_____> all good :)
[17:08] <chrisstubbs> ublox chip just pinged out of my helping hands and flew accross the room
[17:08] <SpeedEvil> chrisstubbs: Flight #1
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> Did it float?
[17:09] <chrisstubbs> no :(
[17:09] <chrisstubbs> im scavanging parts off my first board to use on the 4th
[17:10] <russss> pics were great btw. Lovely day for it.
[17:10] <russss> I need to try and work out how to get my antenna back on my roof.
[17:10] <SpeedEvil> :)
[17:11] <russss> unfortunately my house is nice now so I can't get away with stringing RG213 around the place
[17:12] <russss> so I think I may box the radio and a raspberry pi up and mount it on the roof, then run ethernet
[17:12] <chrisstubbs> disguise it as fairy lights and put it up at christmas
[17:12] <russss> the problem is that it'll probably annoy me more than my gf
[17:13] <SpeedEvil> russss: You could use POE - but then you'd have to be careful about ravens.
[17:13] <russss> :/
[17:13] <russss> anyhow, you can't beat the signal loss on ethernet ;)
[17:13] <SpeedEvil> Well, depedns if it conducts any noise at 434
[17:13] <griffonbot> @MEschoolweather: @liamdutton @daveake: PIE6 http://t.co/pb2BLJpekf http://t.co/E66nxq3RNU #raspberry_pi #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/MEschoolweather/status/338704515215785984]
[17:13] <russss> I don't think PoE has enough juice to run the radio though
[17:14] <SpeedEvil> How quiet is the pi?
[17:14] <russss> I get the impression it's pretty noisy
[17:14] <russss> I may have to deploy copious tin foil and ferrites
[17:15] <G4MYS> Rus your aerial does not have to be a big white colinear - take two stiff bits of wire 6" 150mm long, feed inte middle to make a dipole it will be almost invisable and if its in the clear above buildings will work resonably well, experiment with a TV preamp in the feeder too if you like!
[17:16] <G4MYS> Or camp a hammy gropund plane less mobile vertical to your TV aerial Ive done that in the past and it works well!
[17:17] <G4MYS> do ask if you want to know more!
[17:17] <russss> yeah my previous aerial was a bodged-together SO239 quarter-wave which worked pretty well on top of 3m of PVC pipe on my roof
[17:17] <russss> but the main issue is simply getting the signal into the house now
[17:18] <russss> ideally without having to wire it up every time
[17:18] <G4MYS> will do it was in the clear, a big colinear may do better for ground comms but these things are up in the sky a big colinear works like a lighthouse and may not be best a simple dipole is what I use at work ! and that goes well!
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[17:20] <G4MYS> hoiw about a push up fiberglass mast with an aerial on it you shove it up when you ewant taake it down when you dont avaible to 10M high may be what you want?
[17:20] <G4MYS> good day then Babbs?!
[17:20] <chrisstubbs> thunderbirds-style coming up out of the chimney would be cool
[17:21] <G4MYS> We could sell you one of those if you insist up to 30M high scre the neighbours!
[17:21] <Babs> Good day G4MYS, thankyou
[17:21] <Babs> Looking through the pics and video now
[17:21] <SpeedEvil> G4MYS: Does it come with the appropriate soundtrack when you put it up?
[17:23] <G4MYS> they put cameras lights and aerials on them oft on vans like Sky news BT and the like! first one we built the blokes next door moved their cars for fear it would come down!
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[17:23] <G4MYS> try Ebay for Hilomast or clarks masts or Moonraker for fiberglass masts
[17:24] <G4MYS> they do clunk when gthey go up but a silent version is now avable so you can sneek it up! honest!!
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[17:38] <LazyL_M0LEP> Babs: How many bits was it it?
[17:40] <Babs_> All in one
[17:41] <Babs_> it hit pretty hard, some of the plastic joints broke on impact but thats not the worst thing in the world as it avoided stressing the camera
[17:42] <Babs_> have some pretty spectacular video from up top
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[17:50] <griffonbot> @thecraag: Decoding @daveake 's Pi balloon while /P in the New Forest with @G3KMI #hamr #hamradio #ukhas http://t.co/7ugdW3w4JB [http://twitter.com/thecraag/status/338713712653393920]
[17:56] <mfa298> that tool a while to come through
[17:56] <mfa298> s/tool/took/
[17:56] <LazyL_M0LEP> Babs: Cool!
[17:58] <Babs> It was unfortunate that i'd got the photos set up for a 2.5 hour flight, and it was up for 3.5 hours so i missed any photos at apogee
[17:58] <Babs> but in terms of the stabilisation, i've had a flick through them and out of 1600 there are none at an angle of more than 10 degrees to the horizontal, so that worked very well
[17:59] <Babs> so that aspect worked well
[17:59] <LazyL_M0LEP> Good.
[17:59] <Babs> Uploading the video of it at the top and then bursting, but its 250 megs so is taking a while
[18:00] <Babs> Everyone was absolute stars getting up to track it, it would have been a nightmare for me to do it as although I could hear it through the yaesu, there was no internet signal so i couldn't upload it
[18:00] <fsphil> evening all
[18:01] <Babs> it was also lucky that I'd got the spot tracker in addition to the gsm and the arduino tracker
[18:01] <mfa298> evening fsphil
[18:02] Action: mfa298 looks and sees just how much scrollback there is - Not sure I want to look at all that
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[18:03] <Babs> otherwise it wouldn't have been found, final location here http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0CurlAIHSLpYezPEfvXAUzHdUAHk7JAjt
[18:03] <Babs> interestingly the spot stopped working presumably because of altitude in the middle
[18:04] <Babs> evening fsphil - did you manage to see BABSHAB over in Ireland? I haven't had chance to catch up on the stats
[18:04] <daveake> We found out why we couldn't hear pie after landing even after going to the likely landing spot
[18:04] <fsphil> Babs: indeed
[18:04] <daveake> In fact where stopped *exactly* where it landed
[18:05] <fsphil> Babs: actually for a while I thought I might be recovering it :)
[18:05] <daveake> But by then someone had picked it up and driven away with it!
[18:05] <LazyL_M0LEP> Ah. Ho hum.
[18:05] <daveake> fsphil Yes I thought you might too :)
[18:05] <Babs> Yes, I got that. Was in a bit of a panic at 0715 this morning
[18:05] <fsphil> that Pi camera did good
[18:05] <daveake> Sure did
[18:05] <daveake> i'll get the 5mb pix off soon
[18:06] <daveake> 5MP
[18:06] <fsphil> brb
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[18:06] <LazyL_M0LEP> Babs: Final Spot a little way from where it actually landed?
[18:06] <Babs> I don't know whether the burst predictor maybe loses some accuracy at the outer reaches (it was a biblically heavy payload)
[18:06] <Babs> because burst altitude was pretty much there as predicted
[18:06] <Babs> but it was sloooooow getting up there
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[18:07] <Babs> LazyL_MOLEP - I didn't turn turn it off because the capsule was all taped up
[18:07] <LazyL_M0LEP> Ah.
[18:08] <Babs> If you look at where it was at 1132 just west of the wood thats where we found it
[18:08] <LazyL_M0LEP> Right. That was pretty much where we were guesing it'd fetch up...
[18:08] <LazyL_M0LEP> Not quite making it to the trees.
[18:08] Nick change: LazyL_M0LEP -> LazyLeopard
[18:09] <Babs> I did a good job of walking through nettles for the last prediction, then just gave up and went back into ledbury to get an internet signal and find it that way
[18:10] <Babs> daveake - did someone drive off with it for safekeeping?
[18:10] <griffonbot> @drewibbo: RT @daveake: PIE6 on its way into the stratosphere, sending lovely images see http://t.co/xZF5mgkozp http://t.co/1bqhemUKIp #raspberry_pi #& [http://twitter.com/drewibbo/status/338718817205231616]
[18:10] <daveake> Babs yep
[18:11] <daveake> I was very confused - we tried all the likely roads and didn't get a peep, even on a hill with the yagi
[18:11] <daveake> then the phone rang and someone said "I've got your strawberry attached to a parachute2
[18:11] <Babs> :-)
[18:12] <daveake> A friendly message with phone number, printed on the str...raspberry, did the trick
[18:12] <daveake> I thought he was going to be nearby but it was about 15 mins drive
[18:12] <daveake> then he explained he'd driven off with it
[18:13] <daveake> we started rxing again half a mile or so from his house
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[18:13] <daveake> pic came in all black, beause the camera was face down in his garage
[18:15] <Babs> far more interesting images than mine - was a bit misty cloudy that early in the morning
[18:15] <mfa298> maybe you should add a cctv sticker on ssdv flights. Or a friendly message "Smile at the camera, your photo is being sent live over the radio."
[18:15] <Babs> I had a "this way up" on mine.
[18:15] <Babs> Sadly it didn't work it out on its own and I found it on its side
[18:16] <Babs> Need a yagi next time I think - DIY project for 2014
[18:16] <mfa298> you've still got half of 2013 left to DIY a yagi.
[18:16] <Babs> I'm getting married in a couple of months, After 12 months of building BABSHAB its in the balance ;-)
[18:17] <Babs> I need to "go dark" on habbing for the next month or two
[18:17] <Babs> September conference locked in though
[18:17] <Babs> Does anyone have the link to Geoff's trace he posted on my flight from early in the day?
[18:18] <G6SUQ> Babs: I've saved all the decodes that I received ... from about 07.15 until I lost the signal; with one small gap in the middle (reboot!)
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[18:22] <G4MYS> Babbs do you want a 434Mhz yagi an offere to you I have two one is brand new unused was going to put it on EBAY, as youve given me some fun yours FOC if you want
[18:23] <Babs> G4MYS - That would be awesome, but will paypal you, its only fair (but I appreciate the offer, thankyou)
[18:24] <G4MYS> paypal the post then!
[18:24] <Babs> Thanks G6SUQ, will PM you
[18:24] <G6SUQ> ok
[18:24] <G6SUQ> btw, G6SUQ is 'GMT' who phoned you this morning
[18:25] <G4MYS> not sure how your suposed to get hold of me!
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[18:26] <Babs> Ahhh, GMT, thanks for the calls and texts this morning, was having a nightmare getting any form of signal. I appreciate it
[18:27] <G4MYS> could ring me everyone know the number every call centre in Idia certainly does so its on answermachine you want to call?
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[18:31] <anerDev> hi gius !
[18:31] <anerDev> daveake today have launched a pico ?
[18:32] <malgar> ciao anerDev
[18:33] <anerDev> malgar :)
[18:33] <G4MYS> MYS back..
[18:33] <malgar> ma tu ce l'hai l'antenna?
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[18:33] <anerDev> quale antenna ? Dovremmo parlare in inglese su questo canale !
[18:34] <malgar> si lo so :P era un attimo di goliardia :P
[18:34] <malgar> ahahah
[18:34] <nommo> Upu: You around?
[18:35] <nommo> I found a way to get my dongle to be less deaf in sdr-sharp
[18:37] <anerDev> what way ?
[18:37] <G6SUQ> do tell!
[18:38] <nommo> in sdr# next to the device selection (rtl-dsr/usb) > configure > check RTL AGC > check Tuner AGC
[18:39] <nommo> you may already have tried that but it made a big difference to me!
[18:39] <G6SUQ> wellll, yes. but AGC does not have amassive effect on gain
[18:40] <craag_G3KMI_P> G6SUQ: It does when the gain is manually set to -dB by default.
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[18:40] <craag> *0dB
[18:40] <griffonbot> @daveake: PIE6's rather swift landing may have had something to do with the 1.1kg of balloon still attached! #raspberry_pi #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/daveake/status/338726458384064513]
[18:41] <craag> Which I think it is in sdrsharp.
[18:41] <Babs> it was a day for balloon entanglement
[18:41] <nommo> I've never managed to hear anything till i did that today, well - the new antenna helped too
[18:42] <craag> nommo: I did my first pico launch with the Gain set to 0dB (AGC off), so you're ahead of me!
[18:44] <nommo> Hehe :) Baby steps... I managed to chip in a few packets to the PIE6 pics today!
[18:45] <craag> :)
[18:45] <G6SUQ> every little helps, and as you were close to the landing sote you probably helped more than you realise.
[18:45] <G6SUQ> sote=site
[18:47] <chrisstubbs> cuddykid, microSD & RFM22b worked with absolutely no tweaking or faffing :)
[18:48] <nommo> i enjoyed it today - it's one thing to follow the balloons on the tracker and lurk on IRC but it's another thing to buy a dongle, make an antenna, pick up the signal and contribute :)
[18:50] <cuddykid> excellent chrisstubbs
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[18:51] <nommo> are gain settings covered on the wiki btw? I wish I'd noticed if it was :D
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[18:53] <G6SUQ> nommo: it's quite a buzz seeing your callsign or id appearing on the tracking screen, or under the pictures
[18:54] <nommo> G6SUQ: It is :) I saved a copy of the pics :)
[18:54] <nommo> I should have been strimming today
[18:55] <G6SUQ> me too, and me too (strimming!)
[18:56] <nommo> There's a small strimming window in the morning..
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[18:56] <nommo> Before the rain
[18:57] <chrisstubbs> However the ammount of swearing this ublox is needing to solder is not so good
[18:58] <anerDev> guys I have a question about the predictor ! But how much exactly is the land position of the balloon ?
[18:59] <nommo> Ahh soldering... I had a mare soldering new phono leads on my wife's techincs 1210s last weekend...track came loose :(
[18:59] <SpeedEvil> You mean how accurate?
[18:59] <SpeedEvil> It can be pretty accurate - if the assumptions are right.
[18:59] <SpeedEvil> 10 miles?
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[18:59] <SpeedEvil> For a 3 hour flight
[18:59] <SpeedEvil> If the balloon does not burst as expected, it can be very, very, very wrong.
[19:00] <SpeedEvil> As in 'oops, I meant to land in australia but ended up in the middle of the mediteranian'
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[19:00] <griffonbot> @daveake: Full-size image taken by the #raspberry_pi camera in my PIE6 flight this afternoon http://t.co/hMjaV4URPX #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/daveake/status/338731412377186304]
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[19:05] <LazyLeopard> Cracking shot, Dave
[19:05] <G6SUQ> wow, thats impressive ... all the way down to Lands End!
[19:05] <daveake> Love that one
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[19:09] <cuddykid> awesome!
[19:10] <cuddykid> just goes to show that a clear day makes for much better images
[19:10] <fsphil> oh that is nice
[19:10] <griffonbot> @betamax65: @daveake #raspberry_pi #UKHAS Looks great! [http://twitter.com/betamax65/status/338733923276312576]
[19:16] <griffonbot> @jdtanner: RT @daveake: Full-size image taken by the #raspberry_pi camera in my PIE6 flight this afternoon http://t.co/hMjaV4URPX #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/jdtanner/status/338735302019530753]
[19:16] <G0MJW-PC> Great photp
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[19:51] <costyn_> very nice
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[19:55] <Willdude123> Hello
[19:55] <Willdude123> How did the PIE flight go?
[19:56] <Willdude123> Did it land on a construction site or something? The ssdv pic
[19:56] <Willdude123> Looks like it
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[20:00] <x-f> it was picked up by some local person, who brought the str.. raspberry home
[20:00] <x-f> but all ended well, it was recovered
[20:01] <Willdude123> A right.
[20:01] <Willdude123> *ah
[20:01] <Willdude123> Did they phone dave?
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[20:03] <x-f> yep
[20:04] <Willdude123> I wonder if a hab could get a detailed image of the iss, if the camera was in the right place.
[20:04] <SpeedEvil> No.
[20:04] <Willdude123> Ham contacts with the iss make for interesting youtubing.
[20:04] <SpeedEvil> You're only about a third closer.
[20:05] <Willdude123> Yeah stupid question really.
[20:05] <SpeedEvil> Though in principle, with a small scope - yes
[20:05] <SpeedEvil> As seeing would be great
[20:05] <SpeedEvil> But - a 10cm scope may be somewhat heavier than is easy and safe to get to 30km
[20:07] <Willdude123> How come the iss experiences negligible gravity?
[20:07] <x-f> it's in free fall all the time
[20:07] <x-f> the gravity up there is just a tiny bit smaller than down here
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[20:08] <Willdude123> Right, I think I need to read up on how artificial satellites work.
[20:11] <Willdude123> This is a demented question, but if it's in free fall, will it eventually fall to earth?
[20:12] <SamSilver> artificial sats revolve around your imagination.
[20:12] <SamSilver> they land when you wake up!!
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[20:14] <fsphil> if there was no drag at all, it would fall forever
[20:14] <fsphil> the ISS is low enough that there is some atmosphere
[20:14] <fsphil> slows it down slowly over time
[20:15] <fsphil> the shuttle used to boost it back up
[20:15] <fsphil> the ATV does that these days
[20:15] <Willdude123> ATV?
[20:15] <fsphil> the ESA resupply ship
[20:15] <fsphil> Automated Transfer Vehicle
[20:15] <Willdude123> So basically, it just falls and goes back up.
[20:16] <Willdude123> Well, orbits.
[20:16] <fsphil> yea it's altitude drops over time
[20:16] <fsphil> if it was in a higher orbit it would be less of a problem
[20:16] <fsphil> as there would be less atmosphere
[20:17] <fsphil> that is both an advantage and a disadvantage
[20:17] <x-f> i like the GOCE satellite - it's way lower than ISS and therefore looks like a spaceship from the future - shiny and streamlined
[20:17] <fsphil> disadvantage being it requires the regular boost to keep it in orbit
[20:17] <fsphil> advantage being that pieces of junk there will eventually reenter and burn up in the atmosphere
[20:18] <Willdude123> So ATVs have some sort of rocket to push the iss up?
[20:18] <fsphil> yep
[20:19] <Willdude123> Stupid question, but after they've <s>eaten</s> used everything on the atv, what happens to it?
[20:19] <Willdude123> Can they just throw it out the window? :-)
[20:20] <fsphil> they fill it with junk, and send it back to earth
[20:20] <fsphil> it burns up
[20:20] <fsphil> rather dramatically
[20:20] <x-f> *sob*
[20:20] <fsphil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8os3Q0hZLfE
[20:20] <fsphil> very expensive fireworks
[20:23] <x-f> pretty
[20:23] <fsphil> seems so wasteful
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[20:25] <fsphil> a metaphor for ESA itself perhaps
[20:25] <Willdude123> Do they put their poo in it?
[20:25] <Willdude123> Maybe that's why it will be discontinued
[20:26] <fsphil> I imagine they do
[20:26] <fsphil> interesting fact, there's poo on the moon
[20:26] <SpeedEvil> Freeze dried.
[20:28] <fsphil> the day/night cycle has probably turned it into dust by now
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[20:34] <SP9UOB> evening ALL
[20:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> The PIE6 Flight path this afternoon http://360.g8dhe.net/hab_flights/PIE6/PIE6.html
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[20:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> daveake Do you know what time that full size image of Devon & Cornwall was taken ? I was going to see if I could overlay it on a Pano, which I'll position from the time given .... ?
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[20:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Imgur strips the EXIF data, as normal, so I can't position it without the time
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[20:54] <griffonbot> @Rob_Bishop: RT @daveake: Full-size image taken by the #raspberry_pi camera in my PIE6 flight this afternoon http://t.co/hMjaV4URPX #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/Rob_Bishop/status/338760012707020801]
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[21:11] <anerDev> WOOOW !
[21:11] <griffonbot> @anerDev: RT @daveake: Full-size image taken by the #raspberry_pi camera in my PIE6 flight this afternoon http://t.co/hMjaV4URPX #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/anerDev/status/338764404789227520]
[21:12] <griffonbot> @JulianXhokaxhiu: RT @daveake: Full-size image taken by the #raspberry_pi camera in my PIE6 flight this afternoon http://t.co/hMjaV4URPX #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/JulianXhokaxhiu/status/338764534137356288]
[21:13] <anerDev> hi guys !
[21:13] <fsphil> at least there's no early flights tomorrow. don't have to set the alarm :)
[21:13] <anerDev> today can't test the transmission of the antenna ! :/
[21:14] <mfa298> fsphil: that reminds me, I should probably turn off the standard mon-fri alarm.
[21:14] <fsphil> ooh nuts, forgot about that too
[21:14] <anerDev> fsphil I have a quesstion about the Predictor ! How much are the accuracy of the land position of the balloon ?
[21:14] <fsphil> ta mfa298 :)
[21:15] <fsphil> anerDev: before bursting, not really accurate at all
[21:15] <fsphil> after bursting, increasingly accurate :)
[21:15] Action: mfa298 now goes to turn it off before I forget. I don't want be be reminded when it wakes me up in the morning
[21:15] <fsphil> now if I can remember where I set my phone
[21:15] <anerDev> fhphil O.0 !
[21:16] <anerDev> +- 10 km accuracy ?
[21:16] <gonzo_mob> how did the pie recovery go!
[21:16] <mfa298> anerDev: A lot of it depends on how accurate the data is that you put in and how much the winds are changing.
[21:17] <fsphil> gonzo_mob: recovered. someone had found it before dave got to the landing spot
[21:17] <fsphil> they took it home and phone him
[21:17] <gonzo_mob> oh nice
[21:17] <mfa298> the predictors generally all assume the landing location is 0m ASL so it it's landing in a hilly area you need to allow for that.
[21:18] <anerDev> mfa298 the only data that I can put is only the altiude burst (calculate from the calc burst), the start position the data/time, ascent rate
[21:18] <gonzo_mob> was it still tx'ing?
[21:18] <fsphil> gonzo_mob: yea, there's a few pictures there post-recovery
[21:18] <anerDev> mfa298 for example, watch this: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=471d31d8943940b825e9223f11a6f0ee6d3dc84a
[21:19] <anerDev> the land point can move aside +-2 KM ?
[21:19] <gonzo_mob> a good flight then. nice
[21:19] <fsphil> oh I was talking about the live predictor
[21:19] <fsphil> use the predictor only to get a rough idea of the direction it might be travelling
[21:19] <fsphil> and the areas it might land in
[21:20] <fsphil> so you can avoid a city, or airport for example
[21:20] <mfa298> anerDev: try changing the values a bit and see what happens (especially the ascent/descent rates and burst altitude)
[21:20] <fsphil> I'm pleased how well 600 baud works over distance
[21:20] <fsphil> though I'm still wary of doing it myself
[21:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Must admit that worked very well indeed !
[21:21] <anerDev> mfa298: wtach now: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=339aee41448391fc4cb372b933091d03c9a388b8
[21:22] <fsphil> the number of listeners helps too -- this format really works best with lots of stations
[21:23] <mfa298> anerDev: so if you get a bit more gas in the balloon so it goes up faster there's quite a difference in where it lands.
[21:23] <mfa298> Measuring you've got the correct amount of gas can be tricky
[21:24] <anerDev> is set this data in the calc burst :http://d.pr/i/zmyb
[21:24] <anerDev> 5 m/s is a good speed ?
[21:24] <fsphil> the burst altitude will also depend on attributes of the balloon you can't easily know
[21:25] <fsphil> it can vary by a few km
[21:25] <mfa298> anerDev: you'll find most of those values end up being a best guess so the prediction will be based on those best guesses.
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[21:25] <anerDev> uhmm ok ok
[21:26] <anerDev> the problem is: it can vary by a few km
[21:26] <anerDev> if the balloon go to sea is a problem !
[21:26] <fsphil> if your prediction is showing it landing near the sea, then don't launch :)
[21:27] <mfa298> The other question to ask yourself is how accurately do you think you can measure the Neck lift of the balloon (do you think you'll get it exactly on 2218g, and is your payload mass going to be exactly 1000g)
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[21:27] <SpeedEvil> In general, if changing your launch an hour either way, or your lift up or down 20% gives a vastly different landing place - don't laucnh
[21:27] <mfa298> or if it's going near the sea try more gas so you get a faster ascent and lower burst and see if thats a better prediction.
[21:28] <SpeedEvil> Unless you can cope with a landing anywhere around the various solutions.
[21:28] <anerDev> mfa298: yes, for now is a orientative weight, after I will put the exaclly weight
[21:28] <jonsowman> getting the neck lift right is much harder
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[21:29] <anerDev> ook; i'm testing various setting
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[21:30] <mfa298> also your first prediction has it landing at around 600m ASL however that prediction is probably assuming ground is at 0m ASL so the actual landing will probably be earlier.
[21:31] <chrisstubbs> Evening S_Mark!
[21:31] <anerDev> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=a9970cf02b5abe214fd6a5d23b90b7e40985d380
[21:31] <S_Mark> Hello!
[21:31] <chrisstubbs> just half way through watching your vid, loving the onscreen data
[21:31] <S_Mark> ah cool!
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[21:32] <mfa298> also launching in a small island always has the risk of a wet landing - In that context England/Wales/Scotland could count as a small island.
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[21:32] <Willdude123> The UKHAS conference sounds cool, except I'm not intelligent enough to go and my parents will never let me.
[21:33] <anerDev> mfa298 yes !
[21:33] <chrisstubbs> What was the software called S_Mark?
[21:34] <anerDev> than you guys ! I think that for the ballon I will use the pwan 1200 and for the parachute the Sphrachute 32"
[21:34] <S_Mark> It's called dashware, windows only. You can download the trial for free
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[21:35] <gonzo_mob> the ukhas conf may be streamed on the web again?
[21:35] <S_Mark> quite fun to get it working, had to make those 'gaugues' from scratch though as they have a lot of complicated 'cockpit' animated gauges but nothing simple
[21:35] <Willdude123> Ah yeah maybe.
[21:36] <chrisstubbs> ahaha the sheep!
[21:36] <Willdude123> I'd love to come along. Who's organizing it?
[21:36] <S_Mark> Here is our post write up and video from last week's launch if anyone is interested http://www.stratodean.co.uk/2013/05/stratodean-two.html
[21:37] <chrisstubbs> Looks like most of peoples recovery troubles comes from poor 3G
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[21:37] <S_Mark> we defo need '3'
[21:38] <S_Mark> next time
[21:38] <griffonbot> @bisbing63: RT @daveake: Full-size image taken by the #raspberry_pi camera in my PIE6 flight this afternoon http://t.co/hMjaV4URPX #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/bisbing63/status/338771103084314624]
[21:38] <chrisstubbs> I used to be with them, cheap, but the coverage seemed shocking
[21:38] <S_Mark> yeah the 2g coverage is usually dodgy, but usually they have 3g where noone else does
[21:39] <Willdude123> Habs would be a good way to smuggle things.
[21:39] <griffonbot> @_ilf_: RT @daveake: Full-size image taken by the #raspberry_pi camera in my PIE6 flight this afternoon http://t.co/hMjaV4URPX #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/_ilf_/status/338771403442626560]
[21:39] <mfa298> I think if you want to gurentee coverate you probably need access to most 3G operators.
[21:40] <S_Mark> Yeah we had Vodafone, o2 and Virgin, but other chase car only had 3 and they had signal most of the way
[21:40] <mfa298> Our operating location in the New Forest today failed on three, was very weak on O2 but just about worked with a phone on EE's 4G
[21:40] <S_Mark> I think where we landed in the mountains it was always going to be hard
[21:40] <mfa298> three and O2 dongles were several meters up a mast as well
[21:40] <S_Mark> ha really
[21:41] <mfa298> I think it's probably safe to say if you land in some form of national park it's going to be fun whoever you're with
[21:41] <S_Mark> I think you are right!
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[21:43] <mfa298> the new 4G spectrum could be interesting as it might have a better range. Although I wonder if it might be close enough to 434 to cause us issues
[21:43] <griffonbot> @willdude567: @daveake When's PIE7 then? ;-) Oh and congrats on your ham license. #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/willdude567/status/338772411086434305]
[21:43] <Babs> Quick burst vid from today before I hit the sack. Thanks for all of your help today http://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/8845053028/in/photostream
[21:44] <chrisstubbs> Babs, lovley and smooth :) I like it!
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[21:46] <fsphil> Google search working ok or is it just me?
[21:46] <S_Mark> Pretty still up there!
[21:46] <Babs> Thanks chrisstubbs - really pleased with it.the gopro works well when the lighting conditions aren't changing rapidly. it looks good on the big tv from the original file as well, the flickr file is compressed.
[21:46] <chrisstubbs> Any damage photos from the recovery?
[21:47] <S_Mark> Babs what GoPro was this?
[21:47] <Willdude123> Who's organising the conference?
[21:47] <chrisstubbs> Willdude123, I think UPU is main event coordinater
[21:47] <number10> normally jcoxon and upu
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[21:48] <Babs> Hero2 S_Mark - it was a far better result than the last time, i think the gopro works well when the light isn't changing, when it is going from light to dark quickly it struggles
[21:48] <fsphil> shame we can't used a fixed exposure
[21:48] <Willdude123> Couldn't someone smuggle drugs really easily with a hab?
[21:48] <S_Mark> Yeah mine was a hero2 too. I had weird light specks as it came out of the cloud
[21:48] <Babs> I had it on a bearing so that whatever the balloon was doing in terms of spin it had a greater tendency to stay still
[21:49] <S_Mark> Ah thats a good idea, any pics of that?
[21:50] <Babs> All on this set http://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/sets/72157632733154985/
[21:50] <Babs> although this is the one you want for the bearing http://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/8589745881/in/set-72157632733154985
[21:51] <S_Mark> Ahhh yes I have seen this before. Did you send the SLR up today?
[21:51] <Willdude123> Cause it's not as if customs inspect them.
[21:51] <Babs> Yes, still have to process those. Made an error in terms of the camera running out of space half way up :(
[21:51] <Babs> a shame as everything else went ok
[21:51] <Willdude123> Someone could stick cocaine in a hab, and make sure the wind is right, to get it to another country.
[21:51] <Babs> just about
[21:52] <Willdude123> And you could have someone following it, and managing to pick it up.
[21:52] <S_Mark> Looks a quality setup very good
[21:52] <Babs> Thanks - right, I'm knackered. Night everyone.
[21:52] <S_Mark> you print everything yourself?
[21:52] Action: mfa298 expects customs and excise to turn up if/when Willdude123 launches a balloon
[21:52] <fsphil> nite Babs
[21:52] <S_Mark> Night!
[21:53] <Willdude123> Someone prove me wrong.
[21:53] <Babs> Yes, got the files if you want them. PM me.
[21:57] <chrisstubbs> Better go check the status of the cheapo cattracker
[21:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> Pano from the PIE6 flight mainly GE but includingthe image Dave has put up of Devon and Cornwall http://360.g8dhe.net/default.php?1020
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[22:19] <Willdude123> Hello
[22:20] <chrisstubbs> welcome
[22:23] <Willdude123> Upu, you around?
[22:24] <chrisstubbs> in scotland i think
[22:26] <Willdude123> Ah right,
[22:27] <Willdude123> Is it even worth asking if I can go to the conference?
[22:27] <chrisstubbs> Dont see why not
[22:28] <Willdude123> Parents?
[22:29] <Steffanx> :P
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[22:29] <Steffanx> Say to your dad he should come with you
[22:30] <Steffanx> Some son and dad quality time
[22:30] <Willdude123> Haha
[22:30] <Willdude123> You're assuming my dad gives a shit about me.
[22:30] <fsphil> there was a baby there last time
[22:31] <fsphil> so yes it's an event for all ages :) except maybe the pub bit afterwards
[22:32] <Willdude123> When I decided I wanted to be a ham, they couldn't be arsed to come to anything, so my grandad has to take me to the classes and rallie when I do it,
[22:32] <Willdude123> Yet they support my sister's taekwando,
[22:32] <Willdude123> Which is utterly pointless.
[22:33] <chrisstubbs> WILLdude123 will your grandad take you to the conference?
[22:34] <Willdude123> Probably, but I wouldn't want to burden him,
[22:35] <Willdude123> He is slightly interested in ham radio.
[22:35] <Willdude123> But not much.
[22:36] <Willdude123> It's a bit insensitive of my parents in a way, considering his wife died during easter.
[22:36] <fsphil> totally OT but some lovely nest box footage (not mine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnSCNBYVUy8
[22:37] <chrisstubbs> fsphil, my dad shut the cable for our birdbox cam in the window and shorted the power feed to video output
[22:37] <chrisstubbs> bew the camera just before the eggs hatched
[22:37] <chrisstubbs> *blew
[22:37] <fsphil> ah man!
[22:37] <chrisstubbs> was just a cheapy IR ebay one
[22:37] <Willdude123> Why did he do that?
[22:38] <fsphil> unfortunate timing
[22:38] <chrisstubbs> Thats great quality
[22:39] <fsphil> it is. I'm gonna put a few Pi cameras in my box for next season
[22:39] <fsphil> they came out a bit too late for this year
[22:39] <cuddykid> fsphil: is yours wired or wireless?
[22:39] <cuddykid> that is fantastic footage
[22:40] <chrisstubbs> I have the perfect enclosure for a pi birdcam setup but none of my 4 video capture sticks worked with fswebcam :(
[22:40] <fsphil> wired, I use cat5 for each box. but it's just composite video atm, so not HD like that video above
[22:40] <fsphil> so in theory I can put the Pi in and re-use the cat5 for ethernet instead of analogue video
[22:40] <chrisstubbs> POE?
[22:40] <fsphil> chrisstubbs: linux or fswebcam flaw?
[22:41] <chrisstubbs> linux i think
[22:41] <fsphil> well a poor mans POE
[22:41] <fsphil> 12V down the two unused pairs
[22:41] <chrisstubbs> 4 wire ethernet and 2 wire power? :P
[22:41] <chrisstubbs> yeah
[22:41] <chrisstubbs> oh or is cat5 4 pair
[22:41] <fsphil> 4 pairs
[22:42] <chrisstubbs> should have crimped enough of it to know that and the colour sequence by now
[22:42] <fsphil> I cheat a bit in the swift boxes, two pairs for video and audio
[22:42] <fsphil> 3rd pair is for GND, and I split the remaining pair for camera/mic power and the LED lighting (12v and 5v)
[22:43] <fsphil> haha yea, I know it off by heart now
[22:43] <chrisstubbs> IR lighting or just normal?
[22:43] <fsphil> IR in the swift boxes
[22:43] <fsphil> the bluetit box has both
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[22:49] <fsphil> github seems to be mostly people forking projects, then not doing anything with them
[22:49] <chrisstubbs> I think I accidently forked upus eagle library instead of downloading it
[22:52] <fsphil> that's probably how most people are doing it
[22:52] <fsphil> making it easy to fork is a double edged knife
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