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[01:00] <eroomde> yoyo
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[01:16] <nigelvh> yo yo
[01:17] <arko> yo yo yo
[01:17] <nigelvh> yo yo yo
[01:18] <eroomde> yoyoyo
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[01:20] <nigelvh> I'm sitting in a faraday cage
[01:20] <eroomde> nigelvh: a happy photo from today
[01:20] <eroomde> http://i.imgur.com/Qt495nh.jpg
[01:20] <eroomde> this is my ride for the coastal journey from LA to SF
[01:21] <nigelvh> Haha, got your mustang eh?
[01:21] <arko> typical uk
[01:21] <arko> :P
[01:22] <eroomde> i did :)
[01:22] <eroomde> it's quite fun
[01:22] <arko> take it through the streets of sf
[01:22] <arko> fly around
[01:22] <nigelvh> Glad you're enjoying it.
[01:26] <eroomde> i'd be a bit afraid to drive it around SF
[01:26] <eroomde> lots of mad people and no abaility to get above about 15mph
[01:27] <nigelvh> Yeah, much better out and about
[01:27] <eroomde> it's really all about tomorrow
[01:28] <eroomde> along the meat of route 1, big sur, monterey etc
[01:28] <nigelvh> Could always come up to WA
[01:29] <eroomde> gotta ahnd it back tomorrow sadly
[01:29] <eroomde> + leaving drinks by some friendly SFers in my honour tomorrow evening
[01:29] <nigelvh> Just drive really fast
[01:32] <eroomde> :)
[01:32] <arko> eroomde: i was referencing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBLOLi_Ex-Q :P
[01:35] <eroomde> lol
[01:35] <eroomde> i would love to
[01:37] <eroomde> right, the one bistro-of-choice in cambria is heaving tonight because of valentines
[01:38] <eroomde> so i need to get there early and eat at the bar
[01:38] <eroomde> so, bbl
[01:38] <arko> cheers
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[03:59] <meatmanek> man
[03:59] <meatmanek> ebay is a great place to get cheap electronics things that should be cheap
[04:00] <meatmanek> I just bought 5 qfp64 breakout boards for $2
[04:00] <meatmanek> they will get here in 3-5 weeks, but hey
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[06:58] <griffonbot> Received email: A. Coghlan "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Horizon Launch Announcement - Saturday 9th February - Walsall"
[07:03] <griffonbot> Received email: chris hillcox "[UKHAS] Re: Horizon Launch Announcement - Saturday 9th February - Walsall"
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[08:26] <jcoxon> ping Upu
[08:27] <UpuWork> pong
[08:27] <UpuWork> morning
[08:29] <jcoxon> so got the rfm22 to work
[08:29] <UpuWork> oh
[08:29] <jcoxon> yeah
[08:29] <UpuWork> good timing I was just about to break out the iron
[08:29] <UpuWork> what was it ?
[08:29] <jcoxon> one of those things where you aren't sure what you did
[08:30] <UpuWork> I don't like those
[08:30] <fsphil> hate those
[08:30] <jcoxon> so initially nothing from the radio
[08:30] <jcoxon> then it started doing a drifting carrier
[08:30] <jcoxon> then stable rtty
[08:30] <jcoxon> i'm wondering if it could have been a power issue
[08:30] <daveake> quite likely
[08:31] <UpuWork> Was stable under testing
[08:31] <UpuWork> but yes
[08:31] <UpuWork> odd
[08:31] <UpuWork> I think I'd do further testing
[08:31] <UpuWork> don't want to find it has issues at 30km
[08:31] <jcoxon> well i need to stablilise my test rig
[08:31] <UpuWork> oh
[08:31] <jcoxon> solder a few lines etc
[08:31] <fsphil> yikes, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116
[08:31] <UpuWork> question are you using test clips to connect the 2 boards ?
[08:32] <daveake> That's what happens when you send up a 2kg payload and the parachute fails
[08:32] <fsphil> hah
[08:32] <UpuWork> nice fsphil lets hope thats not a precursor to the larger one tonigth
[08:32] <fsphil> my first thought too lol
[08:32] <jcoxon> UpuWork, oh no, they are connected properly
[08:32] <UpuWork> A lot of the issues I had were due to a test clip shorting out one of the pads
[08:32] <UpuWork> ok
[08:32] <UpuWork> I think next one will be a single board
[08:32] <UpuWork> none of this dual board messing about
[08:33] <jcoxon> its more my power supply
[08:33] <jcoxon> well at least its not dead
[08:33] <UpuWork> yep
[08:33] <UpuWork> well I do have a spare one here
[08:33] <UpuWork> well two I have my board as well
[08:33] <UpuWork> so any issues just yell
[08:33] <jcoxon> good to know
[08:34] <UpuWork> going to work on mine this weekend
[08:34] <UpuWork> is your changed code uploaded ?
[08:35] <UpuWork> ah pico93 I see it
[08:35] <jcoxon> updated...
[08:35] <jcoxon> now
[08:35] <UpuWork> ah interesting
[08:35] <UpuWork> technically
[08:35] <UpuWork> you cannot transmit APRS if the vehicle is capable of fligth
[08:36] <jcoxon> yeah
[08:36] <UpuWork> however whatever
[08:36] <UpuWork> silly law
[08:36] <jcoxon> once its on the ground it ain't capable of flight
[08:36] <jcoxon> and when its in the barn being packaged up
[08:37] <daveake> It's incapable without being attached to a balloon
[08:37] <daveake> Like me
[08:37] <daveake> Or a car
[08:37] <jcoxon> daveake, don't give up now - you are capable of flight!
[08:37] <fsphil> you can do it!!
[08:38] <UpuWork> commit "have made quite a few changes!" :)
[08:38] <daveake> Previous attempts have not given a positive expectation
[08:38] <UpuWork> I will go though your changes this weekend
[08:38] <fsphil> you need to work on your commit messages
[08:38] <jcoxon> UpuWork, you really don't need to accept my changes
[08:38] <jcoxon> it just makes more sense to me now
[08:38] <jcoxon> though i appreciate its not as technically advanced
[08:39] <UpuWork> I wouldn't call my code technically advanced
[08:39] <jcoxon> well the made a few changes commit goes into more detail!
[08:39] <jcoxon> fsphil, https://github.com/jamescoxon/APRS_Projects/commit/8f8879b2f5245116342d0f3121e6f80ea8aaaa09
[08:40] <UpuWork> my lovely interupt driven RTTY cast to one side :)
[08:41] <jcoxon> yeah, oops
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[08:44] <fsphil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZxXYscmgRg , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0cRHsApzt8
[08:44] <fsphil> second needs sound :)
[08:45] <jcoxon> quite a big bang
[08:46] <UpuWork> holy crap
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[08:46] <daveake> Meteor explodes in Halfiax
[08:47] <jcoxon> have we worked out yet how WB8ELK did FM with the rfm22?
[08:47] <fsphil> it's the end!
[08:47] <daveake> Halifax
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[08:47] <fsphil> he's tickling the capacitance load
[08:47] <fsphil> whatever that means
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[08:52] <fsphil> these videos are amazing. I hate it when michael bay gets things right
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[09:02] <griffonbot> Received email: A. Coghlan "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Horizon Launch Announcement - Saturday 9th February - Walsall"
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[09:03] <griffonbot> Received email: David Akerman "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Horizon Launch Announcement - Saturday 9th February - Walsall"
[09:03] <fsphil> haha
[09:04] <daveake> Is it a DeLorean?
[09:05] <fsphil> I think that even breaks ISH time
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[09:07] <daveake> https://twitter.com/chrislintott/status/302327236093157376/photo/1 lol
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[09:15] <lz1dev> google do send buisnesses prepaid adwords cards
[09:17] <daveake> Kinda tricky to know who to sue there
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[09:22] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[09:22] <lz1dev> the aliens who threw the rock >.<
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[09:27] <daveake> Can we put all the lawyers on a huge spaceship and send them off in search of the aliens?
[09:29] <lz1dev> we can call it that, but we can just use a saturn V
[09:30] <mfa298> you could call it the "B Ark"
[09:30] <daveake> You bet me to it :)
[09:30] <daveake> beet
[09:30] <daveake> beat
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[09:32] <lz1dev> wooosh :(
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[09:50] <daveake> Same meteor; different view :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/simon_rp/8474794165/
[10:10] <HixWork> Aww man - fligkr blocked here. but IRC not?!?
[10:10] <mfa298> sounds like the sort of security that thinks Internet == Web
[10:11] <HixWork> not really sure what they're trying to achieve.
[10:11] <HixWork> I can install what I like, RDC anywhere, FTP whatever
[10:11] <HixWork> but anything vaguely linked to "Social Media" is banned
[10:12] <mfa298> sounds like they're attempting to use technology to enforce HR policy.
[10:13] <mfa298> I've seen it from the tech side a few times, usually with the answer of it's a HR thing, sort of via HR methods
[10:13] <gonzo_> work here block port 80 so you have to proxy through to get anything, which is logged
[10:14] <gonzo_> unless you use your own proxy if course
[10:14] <daveake> One place I was at for a week they nailed down almost everything
[10:14] <daveake> Fortunately VPN was allowed
[10:15] <daveake> Problem solved :)
[10:15] <HixWork> :d
[10:15] <UpuWork> putty tunnel out on 5060
[10:15] <UpuWork> usually permitted and normally prioritised as well
[10:15] <daveake> win win
[10:16] <UpuWork> thats how we busted Enta's non existant traffic management which did indeed exist
[10:16] <mfa298> ssh on 443 has worked for me as well.
[10:17] <gonzo_> I recon most it depts only have a limited knowledge of security
[10:18] <HixWork> in my experience most IT depts have limited exp of IT
[10:18] <costyn> I once tunneled over DNS :)
[10:18] <gonzo_> I can normally get out somehow, and that's a poor reflection on the level of security that exists
[10:18] <costyn> to bypass a really crappy wifi guest access login
[10:19] <gonzo_> hhe HixWork, our company's usual carear progression to the IT dept begins as a stores boy
[10:20] <costyn> gonzo_: lol
[10:20] <HixWork> :D
[10:21] <daveake> Long while ago I was at a customer site and I could see the wifi signal from the company next door. An open signal. So I connected and could see some PCs, including the entire C drive of one of them. The worrying thing was that this company's business was ... (wait for it).... installing networks
[10:21] <UpuWork> we had a customer who was having huge issues connecting to her LAN via wireless
[10:21] <costyn> daveake: fail :)
[10:21] <UpuWork> we went out and found she was connecting to the students network next door
[10:22] <daveake> hah
[10:22] <daveake> I nearly printed a suitable message on one of their network printers :)
[10:22] <UpuWork> oh
[10:22] <costyn> daveake: hehe... that is tempting
[10:22] <UpuWork> we did that once many years ago
[10:22] <UpuWork> I ran a CS server
[10:23] <UpuWork> and we had this person coming along swearing and threaterning to find us IRL and kill us all
[10:23] <UpuWork> anyway open machine, we connected to his printer and printed a letter off to his dad
[10:23] <UpuWork> didn't hear from him again
[10:23] <daveake> lol
[10:23] <costyn> haha
[10:23] <costyn> i was going to say, this person was probably 13 ?
[10:23] <UpuWork> yeah we worked out from the machine he was some kid
[10:24] <UpuWork> anyway we jsut politey advise he needed to get a firewall
[10:24] <daveake> and life
[10:24] <UpuWork> and printed the log of his son making death threats
[10:24] <daveake> hah
[10:24] <daveake> and a dir listing of his prn folder?
[10:24] <UpuWork> we didn't do too much
[10:25] <UpuWork> downloaded the Dad's CV to get his name :)
[10:25] <costyn> haha
[10:25] <daveake> hah
[10:25] <UpuWork> man that was along time ago
[10:29] <fsphil> we just did that sort of thing at school
[10:29] <fsphil> after we got the admin password, just randomly print to printers and open cd-roms
[10:30] <HixWork> I've ofetn thought it would be fun to put a WEP password on someones open WiFI network
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[10:35] <staylo> I like the way the internet is generating its own cliched disaster movie around the Chelyabinsk meteor, complete with alleged missile interception and less-than-24-hours-to-doomsday DA14 scenario
[10:35] <costyn> staylo: i totally missed all the excitement
[10:36] <fsphil> looks a bit like -----------------===O
[10:37] <fsphil> the sonic boom is seriously impressive, and damaging
[10:37] <staylo> Well, I'm working mostly from Youtube comments and video titles, but I figure that's probably how roland emmerich works
[10:38] <fsphil> but again, Russia and their car cameras. everyone has them
[10:39] <UpuWork> insurance requirement
[10:39] <SpeedEvil> when was it known that the body would be closely approaching earth?
[10:39] <staylo> Yeah, though the requirement for every recording to be complete with dodgy overtaking and questionable music hampers the video quality somewhat
[10:39] <daveake> Jeez http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2013/hunt-for-the-balloon-that-fell-to-earth
[10:40] <costyn> fsphil: woa... very cool
[10:40] <SpeedEvil> it's an inditement of our space ability that we haven't been able to throw half a ton of copper slug at it to get a nice spectra
[10:40] <UpuWork> such a shame you weren't about daveake bet you could have found it
[10:40] <daveake> Was just saying that to Julie
[10:40] <UpuWork> no Yagi or experience in using the radio
[10:40] <UpuWork> shame
[10:40] <daveake> Yeah shame
[10:41] <staylo> Someone's got to sandwich 'harmless scientific experiment' inbetween radiation and biological warning stickers sometime
[10:41] <daveake> lol
[10:41] <gonzo_> biohaz more fun these days
[10:42] <daveake> I told the guys at the weekend that normally I put a "harmless scientific experiment" label on, but given what they were flying (all to be revealed later this month) that wasn't going to wash :)
[10:42] <Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=queIGPWDmnI
[10:42] <gonzo_> used to have a big roll od biohaz warning tape. But my office chair was wrapped with it, one day after a curry evening
[10:42] <fsphil> lol daveake
[10:42] <fsphil> hah
[10:43] <fsphil> I really liked UpuWork's "Oops I appear to be lost" kind of message. it's a bit friendlier
[10:43] <UpuWork> it worked :)
[10:44] <gonzo_> given the payload dave, I'd hardly say harmless!
[10:44] <daveake> armless
[10:44] <fsphil> did you get that one from france back UpuWork?
[10:44] <gonzo_> aimless?
[10:45] <UpuWork> nah she never sent pics or got in contact
[10:45] <UpuWork> after the initial phone call
[10:45] <UpuWork> she was friendly enough I said I wasn't bothered about it back but if she could send some images
[10:45] <daveake> Maybe she misunderstood your "please send pix of the pink thing"?
[10:45] <UpuWork> muhaha
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[10:49] <HixWork> I reckon an olive drab with MOS-tyle stencilling payload would probably be left alone :)
[10:49] <HixWork> MOD, pah
[10:54] <daveake> Put it in a backpack
[10:56] <HixWork> "Harmless religous message contained within this carton, please feel free to open and distibute"
[10:56] <HixWork> that would probably stop anyone opening the payload for a start
[10:58] <fsphil> a small metalic payload with "Beagle 2" on the side, and green goo leaking out
[11:02] <daveake> "Tesco Lasagne"
[11:02] <HixWork> Findus Lab Samples
[11:05] <fsphil> I guess Bart Simpson works there. "Don't have a cow, man!"
[11:08] <fsphil> my cousin is diabetic, has stopped eating all meat products. he's not allowed shergar
[11:09] <mattbrejza> related: (skip to 11:30 & 13:30) - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01qr12f/Prime_Ministers_Questions_13_02_2013/
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[11:31] <Babs> Morning - I use the freenode site here at work, does anyone access it through an iphone app/which is the best one (there are quite a few) - thanks
[11:32] <fsphil> there's a few iphone users here I think
[11:35] <Randomskk> quassel is apparently good
[11:35] <UpuWork> Hi Richard, in short I wouldn't but if you have too try Mango2
[11:36] <Randomskk> wait no
[11:36] <Randomskk> not quassel
[11:36] <Randomskk> I can't remember
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[11:37] <Babs> Only want the iphone as a backup - Thanks Anthony, I'll try it
[11:38] <Babs> Finally got my behind in gear and put up some more detailed descriptions and photos of the SLR stabilising camera cage thing (going to need to think of an acronym for this one) on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/sets/72157632733154985/
[11:40] <UpuWork> NoWobbleTron-4000
[11:40] <fsphil> HABCANON
[11:41] <UpuWork> lol
[11:42] <Babs> Remortgage-1
[11:42] <UpuWork> yeah can imagine
[11:43] <mattbrejza> get canon to sponsor...
[11:44] <UpuWork> they were going to sponsor one but got cold feet
[11:45] <mattbrejza> this is the first stabilised one though?
[11:45] <UpuWork> afaik
[11:45] <UpuWork> was the whole "if the parachute fails" thing
[11:46] <Babs> I'm not surprised, if one failed and a picture hit the Sun of some poor victim with "nonaC" lens cap imprinted on their forehead, wouldn't do the brand much good.
[11:46] <Babs> Not least because they would be known as a brand whose owners left the lens caps on at important moments
[11:47] <gonzo_> be a hell of a closeup pic though
[11:47] <Babs> rofl
[11:47] <fsphil> haha
[11:49] <Laurenceb> https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0Bzv7UpKpOQhnSURsakF1TC1LMjQ
[11:49] <fsphil> I'm nervous about flying even a gopro
[11:50] <gonzo_> is manhab1 an ebay ID from anyone here?!
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[12:05] <HixWork> Babs, I use Colloquy on ipad, it's ok ish
[12:10] <HixWork> Tesco boss denies claims - http://imgur.com/5O07aMf
[12:12] <HixWork> I thought this was apretty sweet homebrew smd solder station http://goo.gl/NxcY6
[12:20] <griffonbot> Received email: GMT "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Horizon Launch Announcement - Saturday 9th February - Walsall"
[12:27] <griffonbot> Received email: Adrian Hicks "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Horizon Launch Announcement - Saturday 9th February - Walsall"
[12:29] <griffonbot> Received email: Lee Gilham "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Horizon Launch Announcement - Saturday 9th February - Walsall"
[12:39] <jcoxon> ping Upu
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[12:50] <jcoxon> anyone know what reg upu used on his linear pAva boards?
[12:51] <mattbrejza> i thought he just used the switching tps61200
[12:51] <mattbrejza> as far as linears go there is a much greater chosice
[12:51] <jcoxon> there is a ldo version as well
[12:51] <jcoxon> it says 718 on it
[12:51] <daveake> He has some linear ones too. I'd check but I'm away from hom atm
[12:52] <mattbrejza> was there anythnig special about it or is it just something that is known to work well?
[12:52] <jcoxon> very low noise
[12:54] <mattbrejza> ah
[12:54] <jcoxon> its just i want the pinout
[12:54] <jcoxon> (i have the board)
[12:54] <mattbrejza> oh i see
[12:55] <Randomskk> can't you guess the pinout from the board?
[12:55] <Randomskk> maybe s/guess/infer/
[12:55] <jcoxon> bingo
[12:55] <daveake> Surely it's only 3 pins - just measure to gnd and i/p
[12:55] <jcoxon> found it
[12:55] <jcoxon> 5 pins
[12:55] <daveake> oh
[12:56] <jcoxon> R1124N181A
[13:04] <HixWork> Damn chinese new year, why can't they just have A day???
[13:08] <x-f> because the live to live, not live to work :)
[13:09] <staylo> I don't think you've got a good grasp of chinese living :)
[13:09] <HixWork> I've got everything sitting waiting for my PCBs to be made up, it's killing me having loads of S?MD part that I cna't do anything with :/
[13:10] <HixWork> typing as ever :)
[13:10] <x-f> "however, many China companies' employees might start the holiday from Feb 1st and return office after Feb 28"
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[13:27] <UpuWork> its a step up
[13:28] <UpuWork> not an LDO
[13:28] <UpuWork> mattbrejza wins
[13:28] <UpuWork> oh
[13:28] <UpuWork> hang on sorry
[13:28] <UpuWork> linear pava
[13:28] <UpuWork> its a Micrel one
[13:30] <UpuWork> MIC5253
[13:30] <UpuWork> MIC5253-3.3YC5 to be exact
[13:31] <UpuWork> Was experimenting with getting the noise floor down
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[14:06] <mattbrejza> no launches this weekend? :(
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[14:08] <NigelMoby> was going to do a pico but its headed the wrong way
[14:10] <mattbrejza> o well
[14:11] <gonzo_> it's actually ideal for us down here
[14:12] <gonzo_> but no traker built
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[14:13] <fsphil> I won't be launching until march
[14:13] <NigelMoby> dam :(
[14:15] <craag> Fantastic predictions for tomorrow, but tracker is still a bare PCB and a jiffy bag of parts.
[14:16] <mattbrejza> hurry up everyone :P
[14:16] <NigeyS> lol
[14:17] <eroomde> yo
[14:17] <NigeyS> hey Ed
[14:19] <eroomde> hello NigeyS
[14:19] <NigeyS> how long you over the pond for eroomde ?
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[14:21] <eroomde> NigeyS: today and tomorrow only remaining
[14:21] <eroomde> bringing it up to a month in total
[14:22] <NigeyS> ahh thats cool, enjoyed yourself though i bet.
[14:22] <eroomde> yqp quite a lot
[14:23] <NigeyS> :) not jealous at all...honest :p
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[14:27] <eroomde> there's a lot of inspiring stuff here
[14:27] <eroomde> just gota keep it going when i get back to work
[14:29] <NigeyS> you can but try :)
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[14:53] <HixWork> http://goo.gl/6aHIW Is fine for ATMega programming isn't it?
[14:53] <NigeyS> yup works a treat
[14:54] <costyn> HixWork: you can get them cheaper on ebay: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/USBTiny-USBtinyISP-AVR-ISP-programmer-for-Arduino-bootloader-Meag2560-uno-r3-/400368767664?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d37d692b0
[14:54] <costyn> HixWork: i have one at home, works perfectly
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[14:56] <HixWork> it was a case of cost versus delivery time.
[14:56] <HixWork> I've got PCBs waiting to be fab'd
[14:57] <HixWork> so figured I can breadboard some things up with DIP ATMegas I have
[14:57] <HixWork> pass the time
[14:58] <costyn> HixWork: the chinese ebay guys can often send items quicker if you ask, you'll need to actually pay for shipping though :)
[15:00] <UpuWork> Hix https://www.olimex.com/Products/AVR/Programmers/AVR-ISP500/
[15:00] <UpuWork> just work
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[15:01] <UpuWork> works
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[16:34] <WK0Q> test
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[16:47] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[17:09] <SpeedEvil> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> holy shit
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> probably I'm the last to find out
[17:09] <fsphil> possibly
[17:10] <SpeedEvil> awesome video
[17:10] <fsphil> but still awesome
[17:10] <fsphil> the sound of it
[17:11] <SpeedEvil> previously there was one person actually injured by meteors I think
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[17:13] <fsphil> possibly still one one to be directly injured by one
[17:13] <fsphil> only one*
[17:13] <SpeedEvil> true
[17:13] <LazyLeopard> Well, most of the injuries are apparently from the shock-wave and shattered glass, rather than direct impact.
[17:14] <SpeedEvil> but not very indirect
[17:14] <LazyLeopard> ...but some of the videos are quite dramatic.
[17:14] <fsphil> there's a video of a garage door being blown in
[17:15] <LazyLeopard> Seen at least a couple of folks who were looking out of a window being thrown back across a room.
[17:15] <SpeedEvil> it was only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!
[17:15] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[17:15] <fsphil> the interplanetary job
[17:15] <LazyLeopard> Some of the damage looks pretty extensive.
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[17:17] <SpeedEvil> the shadows in some of the videos are amazing
[17:18] <fsphil> the only fireball I've seen was the one over scotland last year
[17:18] <SpeedEvil> it looks so close
[17:18] <SpeedEvil> then you stop and think it must be going >8km/s
[17:19] <Lunar_Lander> I just read that there is a video of an alledged impact crater
[17:19] <Lunar_Lander> but that was a gas drill station that exploded
[17:19] <fsphil> yea, some of it seems to have landed in a frozen lake
[17:19] <fsphil> there's pictures of fragments of rock on the ice
[17:20] <SpeedEvil> I do hope the military is sending tanks and stuff.
[17:20] <SpeedEvil> if there is one thing fifties sci fi has taught us...
[17:20] <arko> morning
[17:21] <fsphil> mornin arko
[17:21] <arko> wassa happening
[17:21] <fsphil> fire from the sky, cats and dogs living together, the usual
[17:21] <arko> neat
[17:22] <arko> today is an average day
[17:22] <NigeyS> lol
[17:22] <arko> i love how i only know russia through dashcams
[17:22] <fsphil> there's loads of 'em
[17:23] <LazyLeopard> Do all cars in Russia have them?
[17:23] <fsphil> I'm thinking of putting one in my own, but nothing much happens here. other than rain
[17:24] <arko> haha
[17:26] <chrisstubbs> you can get them for like £15 on ebay!
[17:26] <arko> http://i.imgur.com/LwGsxUb.jpg
[17:27] <arko> wow damn that did some damage
[17:27] <fsphil> and that was just the sound
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[17:27] <fsphil> nature just reminding everyone who's boss
[17:27] <arko> yup
[17:27] <arko> but nature never saw the movie armeggedon
[17:27] <fsphil> lucky nature
[17:28] <arko> we have Aerosmith and Bruce Willis to fight back
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[17:29] <fsphil> if michael bay was an x-man his power would be making things spontaneously explode
[17:29] <fsphil> nobody would be his friend
[17:29] <fsphil> for long
[17:29] <arko> haha
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[17:30] <SpeedEvil> making things explode? 'halt varmint, for I am premature ejaculation boy!'
[17:31] <arko> unfortunate
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[17:36] <SpeedEvil> it's a real shame that we haven't got an impactor mission for this
[17:37] <SpeedEvil> could be as simple as a large block of copper
[17:40] <arko> that pretty damn expensive
[17:40] <arko> the nuke idea is an option
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[17:43] <SpeedEvil> it doesn't need to be orbital
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[17:43] <SpeedEvil> oh, no. I mean to get spectra
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[18:01] Nick change: W0OTM -> W0OTM-Hom
[18:01] Nick change: W0OTM-Hom -> W0OTM-Home
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[18:09] <griffonbot> Received email: "[UKHAS] iHAB-9 Launch - UPDATE"
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[18:23] <Laurenceb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21471967
[18:23] <Laurenceb> wut
[18:25] <Randomskk> I knew you'd link to that
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[18:41] <Laurenceb> on a similar note, is eroomde still stateside?
[18:41] <Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/DJLunyC/status/300731120906022913/photo/1
[18:41] <staylo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLIDkjho2xg nice troll
[18:42] <Laurenceb> slightly nsfw :P
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[18:58] <arko> http://i.imgur.com/2mFAV4g.jpg
[18:59] <chrisstubbs> lol
[18:59] <chrisstubbs> i must say the footage was incredible
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[19:17] <PaulCDR> hey folks,
[19:17] <PaulCDR> anyone any thoughts on whats the best info to extract from the gps data that comes off a ubloc 6?
[19:22] <Upu> how do you mean extract ?
[19:23] <PaulCDR> Parse out the usefull info from all the data that comes in over the serial data, i know lat and long and alt, but is there any other usefull info
[19:23] <Upu> satellites
[19:23] <Upu> there is lots of info
[19:24] <Upu> but generally those are the only ones uses
[19:24] <Upu> $GPGGA string
[19:25] <PaulCDR> $GPGLL also shows lat and long, is there any difference or just more info on the GPGAA string
[19:25] <Upu> GPGGA has everything in you need for HAB
[19:26] <Lunar_Lander> hi Upu
[19:26] <Upu> evening
[19:27] <PaulCDR> its a pretty interesting wee package that ublox 6 board
[19:32] <Upu> they are very nice
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[20:03] <griffonbot> Received email: A. Coghlan "[UKHAS] Re: Horizon Launch Announcement - Saturday 9th February - Walsall"
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[20:14] <arko> http://img.fotowelt.chip.de/imgserver/communityimages/680100/680112/original_F7ED4C6ADA62E255933DEDEF94E5F09F.jpg
[20:14] <arko> damn berlin, you guys have some nice libraries
[20:14] <nigelvh> Damn is right
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[20:28] <arko> uk people, my coworker was wondering if there is any other way to locally purchase tickets for a soccer game in Manchester, rather than buying online through them directly
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[20:38] <chrisstubbs> Just ripped apart my eon home energy monitor, has a RFM02 chip with some nice header on it inside :)
[20:40] <craag> :) 434MHz?
[20:40] <chrisstubbs> 431 :s
[20:41] <chrisstubbs> according to the back at least
[20:42] <craag> Shouldn't cause you too much QRM though, they only update very periodically afaik.
[20:45] <craag> RFM02 Not v useful for HAB if you were thinking that btw. Only 6dBm output power.
[20:46] <chrisstubbs> i was thinking that, might be handy for arduino though. think it might be 5V
[20:47] <chrisstubbs> can add it to the box of other cheap ISM band transmitters i dont have a lot of use for
[20:47] <chrisstubbs> http://www.flickr.com/photos/68579973@N02/8476202459/
[20:47] <craag> Or you could leave the Eon energy monitor intact ;)
[20:47] <craag> Oh wait, that's never an option!
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[20:48] <chrisstubbs> it was horrific, the design of the entire thing seemed crap
[20:48] <craag> They're made v cheap.
[20:48] <chrisstubbs> from the battery box, to the waste of space PCB, to the software running on the display thing
[20:48] <chrisstubbs> yeah it was free so i cant complain!
[20:49] <craag> No antenna ground plane :(
[20:49] <craag> Antenna on your house looking good btw! (Sorry for being nosy on your pics)
[20:50] <chrisstubbs> could that header space in the middle be some kind of JTAG or ISP?
[20:50] <chrisstubbs> the IC is a PIC
[20:50] <SpeedEvil> I have one of those
[20:50] <chrisstubbs> 16f689
[20:50] <SpeedEvil> chrisstubbs: the sad part
[20:50] <craag> Probably ICSP programming header for the PIC.
[20:51] <SpeedEvil> chrisstubbs: it has an AC adaptor. (AC out) for the display
[20:51] <SpeedEvil> with a teeeeny bit of work, this could have done proper power factor correction
[20:51] <chrisstubbs> speedevil: yes that made me pretty sad too.
[20:51] <SpeedEvil> the XML it spits out is w bit annoying to use too
[20:52] <SpeedEvil> OTOH
[20:52] <SpeedEvil> wwckily
[20:52] <SpeedEvil> wackily
[20:52] <SpeedEvil> the maker has dev boards and parts on eBay
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[20:52] <chrisstubbs> imma go smash open the display and see if there is a matching RX chip :)
[20:53] <craag> lol, probably another RFM02, they're transceivers.
[20:53] <SpeedEvil> http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=180548999321&index=4&nav=SEARCH&nid=73437208601
[20:53] <SpeedEvil> £15 for 3
[20:53] <chrisstubbs> anc cheers cragg :) got a few decodable strings from near pourtsmouth on the flights last weekend :)
[20:55] <chrisstubbs> ~100 mi
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[20:55] <craag> Antenna is up at a very nice height. Not sure about your SO239 socket wiring though :/
[20:56] <chrisstubbs> no, i can thank maplin and toolstation for that amazing job
[20:58] <Hackz> hi there
[20:58] <craag> Good evening Hackz
[21:00] <chrisstubbs> craag i might reso it with SMA or BNC one day... we will see
[21:02] <chrisstubbs> evening hackz
[21:02] <craag> chrisstubbs: I try to avoid UHF connectors for >146MHz. BNC are my personal choice for anything <100W.
[21:03] <chrisstubbs> ft817 has 239 on the back and the HAM radio club swear by them. Hence why i went for it
[21:03] <SpeedEvil> I have a PC TV card
[21:04] <gonzo_> people in the know swear AT them
[21:04] <SpeedEvil> the input is via a belling Lee to 3.5mm adaptor
[21:04] <SpeedEvil> at UHF
[21:05] <craag> chrisstubbs: Yep, I use them for 2m gear so that it's inter-connectable with the local raynet gear. I have plenty of UHF-BNC adaptors around, but can never find one when I need one!
[21:06] <craag> SpeedEvil: The margins on broadcast RX are so large that you can get away with it.
[21:06] <SpeedEvil> maybe
[21:06] <craag> The issue comes when the person you're listening to is using 5W, instead of 50KW!
[21:07] <gonzo_> thw pl259 is just a shielded bananna plug really
[21:07] <SpeedEvil> I had a deeply annoying problem I eventually realised was due to half my TV antenna cable being 50r
[21:07] <craag> gonzo_: It really annoys people when I insist on calling it that!
[21:08] <SpeedEvil> it would efficiently notch out certain channels dependant on exact cable positioning
[21:08] <gonzo_> hehe. When people start poking pl259's towards my kitm then realise they have all beed replaced with N types. Then ask what they should do....
[21:09] <gonzo_> and get handed a pair of wire cutters
[21:09] <craag> gonzo_: lol!
[21:09] <gonzo_> when you see UHF kit sold with s0239's on, run and hide!
[21:11] <nayr> yeah I just picked up a new SWR meter and was disapointed to find 239's on the UHF side when they had N's on the VHF side
[21:11] <fsphil> my Diamond colinear has an SO
[21:11] <chrisstubbs> Popped open my british gas meter too, same guts but the design is 100000x better http://www.flickr.com/photos/68579973@N02/8476262151/
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[21:13] <craag> fsphil: So does my chinese copy.. I'm hiding it with a permanently attached adaptor..
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[21:22] <craag> I should probably add, so I don't look like a hypocrite, that this colinear spends 99% of the time in the shed and is only used on portable ops. If the landlord would let me put an antenna on the house, I would get one with an N-type.
[21:23] <gonzo_> mine is 239 also. But would not survive transplanting with an n type
[21:24] <gonzo_> so is still there
[21:24] <mfa298> getting N-Type all the way through for higher freq kit seems to be quite a challenge at times.
[21:24] <gonzo_> also the 817 has it;s 239 still. Because i only use the BNC
[21:24] <gonzo_> I have some nasties.... F types on a lot of the RX kit
[21:25] <gonzo_> because sat tv cable is cheap and suprisingly low loss
[21:25] <gonzo_> so a bulk buy of F-bnc connectors was made
[21:25] <gonzo_> all downstream from LNAs, so mismatch I can live with
[21:25] <mfa298> I'm wondering if anyone has done a comparison for the BNC/SO239 on the 817. I've tended to use the SO239 on mine but then the cables are a few meters of rg58 so just as bad
[21:26] <gonzo_> using the bnc is also lower power consumption, as the switching relay is off
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[21:37] <craag> I'd better put together some decent, short cables for the 868 kit. And probably should make myself a magmount too somehow.
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[21:42] <griffonbot> Received email: GMT "[UKHAS] Re: Horizon Launch Announcement - Saturday 9th February - Walsall"
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[22:11] <Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/rZpu5LF.png
[22:11] <Laurenceb_> lol @ background
[22:12] <arko> so offensive
[22:12] <arko> :P
[22:12] <Laurenceb_> offending pcb designers everywhere :D
[22:13] <nigelvh> I take offence to that!
[22:14] <arko> why would they make such a humiliating name?
[22:14] <arko> ass-burgers
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[22:14] <nigelvh> It really only works if you're cartman.
[22:15] <nigelvh> He's got a magical device that infuses the flavors of all other fast foods into the burgers.
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[22:18] <arko> hehe
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[22:38] <Lunar_Lander> evening nigelvh
[22:39] <nigelvh> Afternoon
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> how's life?
[22:39] <nigelvh> Doing alright. Eating a chicken pot pie before a phone interview in about 20 minutes.
[22:40] <nigelvh> You?
[22:40] <Lunar_Lander> sounds good
[22:40] <Lunar_Lander> reading about programming AVRs without arduino
[22:41] <nigelvh> AVRdude
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> exactly
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> and AVRstudio
[22:41] <nigelvh> AVRstudio isn't strictly necessary, but can be helpful.
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:42] <nigelvh> I just tend to use similar chips on my boards, then use arduino to program it because it's easy.
[22:42] <arko> gl on interview
[22:42] <nigelvh> Thanks dude
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[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> good luck from me too
[22:43] <nigelvh> Talking with a few places, so I'm sure something will work out.
[22:45] <arko> best case?
[22:45] <nigelvh> Depends on what the offers would be, but I'm talking with Amazon, Windermere and another consulting firm.
[22:46] <nigelvh> (For more background, I'm a Linux Systems Administrator)
[22:46] <chrisstubbs> cool, good luck!
[22:46] <arko> nice!
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[22:52] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
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[23:12] <Lunar_Lander> wonder how his interview went/is going
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[23:35] <arko> ha
[23:35] <arko> finally
[23:35] <arko> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.446867488719243.100741.272760406129953&type=1
[23:35] <arko> these pictures are now public
[23:36] <arko> if you guys are in Los Angeles this weekend, the car will be publically on display at universal studios
[23:36] <arko> or anytime after reall
[23:36] <arko> y
[23:36] <lz1dev> looks cool
[23:36] <arko> more pictures to come soon
[23:37] <lz1dev> were you involved?
[23:38] <arko> yes, i did the electronics
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[23:38] <arko> complete redesign of the time circuits, flux, led array, etc
[23:38] <arko> well, me and another friend from OZ, we were the electronics team
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[23:39] <arko> i ended up installing all of it since he was on the otherside of the world
[23:39] <lz1dev> did unplug a few connection so somebody doesnt go back in time ? :)
[23:39] <arko> haha
[23:40] <arko> it's actually more functional now than ever before
[23:40] <arko> :)
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[23:43] <lz1dev> arko:
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[23:43] <arko> yes?
[23:43] <lz1dev> did you lower the speed to 50 for the flux capacitor?
[23:43] <lz1dev> :P
[23:44] <arko> ?
[23:44] <arko> why 50? im confused?
[23:45] <lz1dev> 88 is over the speed limit
[23:45] <arko> haha
[23:46] <arko> i see
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[23:46] <arko> nah, still need 88 ;)
[23:46] <lz1dev> oh well
[23:46] <lz1dev> next time i guess
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> arko, is this the original movie car?
[23:48] <arko> yes
[23:48] <Lunar_Lander> COOL!
[23:48] <arko> from the first movie
[23:48] <arko> if you guys are ever at universal studios hollywood, let me know, i'll give you a tour of it
[23:49] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[23:49] <Lunar_Lander> I remember an error though
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> at one point in BTTF II you see the time display
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> and I think green and yellow are flipped
[23:50] <arko> oh there are tons in the movie
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> I think when marty tries to get the almanac back from Biff's car
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