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[01:32] <eroomde> jesus wept arko
[01:32] <eroomde> i had the small chicago pizza
[01:32] <eroomde> the small one
[01:32] <eroomde> 4 slices
[01:32] <eroomde> i was full after one
[01:32] <eroomde> i ate the 2nd
[01:32] <eroomde> and am having sweats
[01:32] <eroomde> heart rate like 180
[01:32] <eroomde> can barely breathe
[01:32] <arko> that's how it feels to be an american
[01:33] <eroomde> almost got a cab 2 blocks
[01:33] <eroomde> the SMALL one
[01:33] <arko> lol
[01:33] <eroomde> and i'm not small! i can eat. people comment on my appetite
[01:33] <arko> hehe
[01:34] <eroomde> jesus
[01:34] <eroomde> i'm wiped out
[01:34] <eroomde> can't see myself getting to this pub
[01:34] <eroomde> an evening in on the hotel bed with HBO
[01:34] <arko> seriously that much food?
[01:35] <eroomde> yep
[01:35] <eroomde> honestley huffing and puffing still
[01:35] <eroomde> like a fat man run up a flight of stairs
[01:35] <arko> you need medical attention?
[01:35] <eroomde> i need this bed
[01:37] <arko> haha
[01:37] <arko> i think its time to get dinner for me
[01:37] <arko> maybe innout
[01:37] <arko> yeah, i think i will have some innout
[01:38] <eroomde> ?
[01:38] <arko> in'n'out burger
[01:39] <arko> the best burgers in the world
[01:39] <arko> its why i have a hard time leaving california
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[02:01] <gartt> Nothing worse than having plans to go out and feeling too tired to. Sucks the fun out of it
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[02:59] <arko> innout aquired, food coma is go
[02:59] <arko> acquired*
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[05:58] <SamSilver> voice control / autonomous quadrotor UAV
[05:58] <SamSilver> http://www.gizmag.com/mecam-tiny-autonomous-uav/26007/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=62fdfc2800-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email
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[08:41] <fsphil> another nice image from NASA's Terra: http://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/80000/80291/greatbritain_tmo_2013026_lrg.jpg
[08:46] <fsphil> naturally I'm under the cloud
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[09:39] <griffonbot> Received email: chris hillcox "[UKHAS] Re: Skals01 / SKYHAB"
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[11:03] <GMT> anyone on here tracking weather balloon flights?
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[11:13] <costyn> looks interesting, don't know if they're going to make 100K though http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1085541682/bladerf-usb-30-software-defined-radio
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[11:16] <vk5gr> ping Darkside
[11:18] <x-f> for $400? meh.
[11:19] <costyn> yea... bit optimistic
[11:19] <costyn> about their target market
[11:20] <Randomskk> shame it can't go down to 2m
[11:20] <Randomskk> but it does look a bit cool
[11:20] <Randomskk> sdr tx is nice
[11:21] <UpuWork> TX's too
[11:21] <UpuWork> ?
[11:21] <Randomskk> yes
[11:21] <Randomskk> I think I'm going to back it tbh
[11:21] <fsphil> that would make PSK trivial
[11:21] <UpuWork> that is very nice
[11:21] <Randomskk> seeing as it probably won't make the target
[11:22] <UpuWork> $400 is alot though
[11:22] <UpuWork> they need a $50 and $100
[11:22] <Randomskk> the expected value of the $400 given it probably won't be backed is lower
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[11:23] <Randomskk> $650 for an earlier one
[11:23] <Randomskk> probably best avoided til I have finished my exams in may actually
[11:23] <Randomskk> or +$200 for a higher LU FPGA
[11:23] <Randomskk> LE, whatever
[11:23] <UpuWork> Thats alot of bandwidth
[11:23] <Randomskk> it sure is.
[11:24] <Randomskk> it would be really nice for a lot of my exciting dreams of more interesting radio stuff.
[11:24] <Randomskk> might need two...
[11:24] <UpuWork> lol
[11:24] <costyn> haha
[11:24] <Randomskk> I mean live video would be a cinch
[11:24] <Randomskk> 28MHz around the 868MHz license exempt spectrum? yes please
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[11:26] <Randomskk> can do MIMO too
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[11:27] <Randomskk> and the FPGA onboard could handle video encoding from a parallel bus camera no problem
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[11:28] <Randomskk> backed.
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[11:29] <mattbrejza> i wonder what the front end is
[11:30] <mattbrejza> some DAC+ADC+zero-if transciever IC i would guess
[11:30] <Randomskk> looks likely
[11:31] <Randomskk> hmm. not entirely sure if zero IF
[11:31] <Randomskk> actually.. yea, not sure.
[11:31] <mattbrejza> they say samples at 40MSPS and gets 28MHz channels
[11:31] <costyn> so you'd still need an amplifier to get the signal anywhere correct?
[11:32] <mattbrejza> so itll have to be a complex sampler
[11:32] <Randomskk> it's a quadrature sampler, it says so
[11:32] <Randomskk> 40MSPS 12bit
[11:32] <mattbrejza> itll have to sample at baseband?
[11:32] <Randomskk> 2x2 MIMO too. up to 4x4 with expansion card/loom
[11:32] <mattbrejza> unless maybe it uses alising sampling
[11:33] <mattbrejza> 2x2 MIMO with two boards im guessing?
[11:33] <mattbrejza> and syncing the LO
[11:33] <Randomskk> I think 2x2 mimo is built in
[11:33] <Randomskk> it has SMB connectors
[11:33] <mattbrejza> costyn: it probably puts out a few dBm
[11:33] <Randomskk> not entirely sure
[11:33] <costyn> mattbrejza: doesn't mention it anywhere
[11:33] <mattbrejza> yea im guessing
[11:34] <mattbrejza> hmm the department would probably buy some of those
[11:34] <Randomskk> it does say "Modular expansion board design for adding GPIO, Ethernet, and 1PPS sync signal and expanding frequency range, and power limits"
[11:34] <Randomskk> so I imagine that'l be an amplifier
[11:34] <mattbrejza> mind you they spend lots on those other SDR boxes which i forgot the name of
[11:34] <mattbrejza> yea put id guess a few dBm out
[11:34] <mattbrejza> i cant see a seperate PA unit
[11:34] <Randomskk> mm
[11:35] <mattbrejza> with fpga all you need to do is breakout lots of pins and you connect whatever you want (ethernet etc)
[11:35] <Randomskk> indeed
[11:35] <mattbrejza> i would guess the smb connector at the top is clock sync
[11:37] <Randomskk> oh god, the NHS allow anyone to put comments on this page for norovirus
[11:37] <Randomskk> http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/norovirus/Pages/Introduction.aspx
[11:37] <Randomskk> "like a great wall of human misery" says a guy on twitter
[11:38] <mattbrejza> you can rate the page lol
[11:38] <mattbrejza> ill give norovirus a 4/5
[11:38] <Randomskk> "would vom again"
[11:38] <mattbrejza> good at spreading but not that deadly
[11:38] <mattbrejza> still rather unpleasent
[11:42] <mattbrejza> so $10k down $90k to go
[11:42] <mattbrejza> these normally run for 45 days?
[11:44] <mattbrejza> oh 30 days
[11:44] <mattbrejza> not going too badly then
[11:45] <Randomskk> http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1085541682/bladerf-usb-30-software-defined-radio/
[11:45] <Randomskk> not hugely optimistic. usually the first few days are by far the biggest
[11:46] <Randomskk> though admittedly not always? http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/breadpig/to-be-or-not-to-be-that-is-the-adventure/
[11:46] <Randomskk> and sometimes there are just very suspicious jumps http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/704143762/cuer-the-uks-number-one-solar-car-team/
[11:48] <mattbrejza> tbh what i would like is to easy get hold of a e4k or similar, free sample a dual ADC, get that £40 FPGA board and sorted
[11:48] <Randomskk> fine for rx
[11:48] <mattbrejza> i had found siutable stuff for tx
[11:48] <mattbrejza> athlough fixed(ish) freq
[11:49] <mattbrejza> the issue is that integrated digital front ends are very expensive
[11:49] <mattbrejza> but the e4k parts if you can actually find probably arnt
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[12:11] <costyn> if anyone's interested, Majed from Saudi's HAB flight: youtube.com/watch?v=pbyU7c_S8A0
[12:13] <daveake> Nice. Hope it wasn't a hamburger :)
[12:13] <daveake> That clear sheet works quite well
[12:13] <costyn> awesome burst debris at 3:10
[12:13] <costyn> daveake: it does
[12:15] <daveake> Hah, yeah nice slow-mo amongst the fragments :)
[12:16] <Maxell> Why send a burger to space?
[12:17] <daveake> Because teddy bears have been done?
[12:17] <costyn> Maxell: well, it was My Burger burger
[12:17] <costyn> looking at that burger made me hungry
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[12:25] <zyp> hmm, bladerf looks nice
[12:35] <Laurenceb> indeed
[12:37] <Laurenceb> looks too simple
[12:37] <Laurenceb> im confused
[12:37] <Laurenceb> is there a schematic?
[12:38] <Laurenceb> aha LimeMicro LMS6002D
[12:40] <Laurenceb> very impressive chip
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[12:49] <mattbrejza> those things arnt cheap of course
[12:49] <mattbrejza> $110 each
[12:50] <Laurenceb> wtf
[12:50] <Laurenceb> thats crazy cheap
[12:51] <Laurenceb> some companies would pay $110K for that
[12:52] <costyn> Laurenceb: for the bladeRF?
[12:52] <Laurenceb> yes
[12:53] <BrainDamage> 110$ for the hole board would be stupidly cheap
[12:53] <BrainDamage> don't you mean the single chip?
[12:53] <Laurenceb> yeah
[12:54] <mattbrejza> suppose for a basestation or something $110 is nothing
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[12:57] <zyp> «You are now an official backer of bladeRF - USB 3.0 Software Defined Radio.»
[12:57] <zyp> hope it won't get too much of the usual kickstarter delays :p
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[13:00] <snh> /joni #bladerf
[13:00] <snh> whoops!
[13:04] <x-f> -.-
[13:04] <anerDev> lool
[13:05] <snh> sorry about that folks, need to learn to check things before I hit enter!
[13:05] <costyn> snh: could've been worse
[13:05] <fsphil> haha
[13:05] <costyn> /ignore fsphil
[13:05] <costyn> eeuh..
[13:06] <Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/DmYiOSG.png
[13:06] <snh> lol
[13:06] <costyn> ;)
[13:06] <lz1dev> mmm
[13:09] <Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/mhaHuZn.jpg
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[13:09] <costyn> she must really like linux
[13:10] <Laurenceb> maybe she is a developer
[13:10] <Laurenceb> DONT CALL IT THAT
[13:10] <costyn> Laurenceb: something might be developing in his pants (sorry)
[13:10] <Laurenceb> lolz
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[13:57] <Brace> Laurenceb: that's not a very good photoshop
[13:57] <Brace> funny tho
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[14:47] <lz1dev> Laurenceb: what do you think of the latest fashion trends?
[14:48] <lz1dev> http://i.qkme.me/35moy2.jpg
[14:49] <Laurenceb> wtf
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[15:03] <costyn> ^^ what he said
[15:06] <daveake> Is that the result of some disease where hair folicles migrate?
[15:07] <fsphil> Hair transplant gone wrong
[15:07] <fsphil> should have gone to specsavers
[15:13] <lz1dev> specsaves do hair transplants?
[15:13] <fsphil> the doctor doing the transplant should have
[15:13] <daveake> It's a fringe part of their organisation
[15:15] <gonzo_> at least it's niot a bare faced lie
[15:16] <daveake> Not sure I like where this is heading
[15:16] <costyn> daveake: don't you see?
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[15:19] <gonzo_> wonder if she has hairy thighs too?
[15:19] <costyn> we'd better cut this pun thread short
[15:21] <LazyLeopard> Oh dear... is it Punday again?
[15:22] <gonzo_> we could shave a few minutes off it at least
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[15:26] <lz1dev> just dont cut it too short
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[15:41] <costyn> well thusfar my sides aren't burning with laughter
[15:43] <fsphil> think of that one of the top of your head?
[15:45] <gonzo_> there is a whisker of truth in that
[15:47] <costyn> fsphil: no i did knot. fraid I may have cheated a bit
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[17:22] <SpeedEvil> nexus 4 on UK play, for anyone wanting to try photosphere at altitude
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[17:34] <arko> http://windytan.blogspot.fi/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-pictured.html
[17:34] <arko> very cool
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[17:43] <Maxell> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSxtwuTS5hw
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[17:48] <chrisstubbs> interesting teardown!!
[17:50] <arko> wow this is awesome!
[17:51] <Maxell> anyone not yet clicking the link; you should! It's a Vaisala RS92-SGP Radiosonde teardown
[17:51] <chrisstubbs> had no idea about the helixial GPS antenna blocking reflections, celver stuff!
[17:52] <chrisstubbs> oh man... *clever
[17:54] <arko> yeah this is a pretty sweet design
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[17:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
[17:56] <arko> hello!
[18:09] <eroomde> yoyo
[18:10] <arko> yooo
[18:10] <eroomde> in the amtrak '1st class lounge'
[18:10] <eroomde> quite comfy!
[18:10] <eroomde> might be the only one under 60 though
[18:11] <arko> mr fancy pants
[18:12] <arko> do they serve booze?
[18:12] <eroomde> they do
[18:12] <eroomde> i don;t think it's like an actual airline 1st class lounge :)
[18:12] <eroomde> might be marketing
[18:12] <eroomde> but you get it by virtue of having a room on the train, i guess
[18:12] <eroomde> and i nice man looks after your bags
[18:12] <eroomde> nice young man
[18:12] <eroomde> what a nice smile
[18:13] Action: eroomde wrestles his laptop back from one of the senior ladies
[18:14] <arko> what?
[18:14] <eroomde> carry on
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[18:15] <arko> righto
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[18:15] <griffonbot> Received email: Brian Hougesen "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Skals01 / SKYHAB"
[18:17] <arko> oh man, i cant wait for sunday for the yearly commerials and awesome food
[18:18] <eroomde> what's the occassion?
[18:18] <arko> and something to do some game, but i dont know what that is
[18:18] <eroomde> hand-egg?
[18:18] <arko> i think that game where you dont use your feet but it has the name in it
[18:18] <arko> footkick
[18:18] <arko> or something i dont know
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[18:18] <arko> you use your hands mostly
[18:19] <arko> HEYOO
[18:19] <arko> footbowl
[18:19] <arko> thats it
[18:20] <eroomde> ah
[18:21] <eroomde> so a big instance of foot bowl could be called something like super foot bowl
[18:21] <eroomde> or super bowl for short
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[18:22] <arko> yes
[18:22] <arko> i believe
[18:23] <eroomde> cool
[18:24] <eroomde> i'm glad we've sorted this out
[18:24] <eroomde> this is how i imagine laws are decided by the establisgment in private gentlemen's clubs
[18:24] <arko> yep! and in government
[18:24] <arko> people pretend to know about stuff, then make laws
[18:25] <eroomde> i like that bismark quote
[18:25] <eroomde> something like:
[18:25] <eroomde> laws are like sausages. you're better off not seeing how they're made
[18:26] <arko> s/sausages/haggis/g
[18:26] <arko> yeah
[18:26] <eroomde> well he was german
[18:26] <eroomde> i don't think they do haggis there
[18:26] <arko> ask fsphil
[18:27] <eroomde> he's in germany?
[18:29] <arko> he's not in germany?
[18:29] <arko> uk crap
[18:29] <arko> my bad
[18:30] <eroomde> not the uk either
[18:30] <eroomde> i'm being super aspie but technically correct (the best kind of correct)
[18:30] <eroomde> oh no wait!
[18:30] <eroomde> i am wrong
[18:30] <eroomde> now i must kill myself
[18:30] <arko> sepeku
[18:30] <arko> go out with honor at least
[18:30] <eroomde> he's in northern ireland which is UK but not GB
[18:31] <Randomskk> it's right in the name and all! "united kingdoms of great britain and northern ireland"
[18:31] <eroomde> the fufull title on the front of my passport here is: The United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
[18:31] <arko> bah, this is more complicated than trying to figure out cricket
[18:31] <eroomde> no, cricket is easy
[18:32] <eroomde> http://www.melcarson.com/rules-of-cricket-simplified.html
[18:33] <arko> but that doesnt explain the ball and stick
[18:33] <Randomskk> yes it's very simple http://www.lords.org/data/files/laws-of-cricket-2000-code-4th-edition-final-10422.pdf
[18:33] <arko> woah tldr
[18:34] <Randomskk> while they have many translations apparently none into US English
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[18:36] <eroomde> arko: you hit the ball with the stick
[18:37] <Randomskk> but you make sure it doesn't hit the other sticks
[18:37] <Randomskk> then you run
[18:38] <arko> vOv meh
[18:38] <arko> sounds like baseball
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[18:38] <Randomskk> it is basically a better version of baseball
[18:38] <eroomde> the point really is to provide a pleasant but ignorable distraction on a piece of grass on a fine summer's day
[18:38] <Randomskk> this^
[18:38] <eroomde> if you go to a cricket match, it's people around the boundary on picnic matts drinking and eating and chatting and reading the sunday paper
[18:39] <eroomde> with an occassional gentle round of applause
[18:39] <arko> hahaha
[18:39] <eroomde> seriously
[18:39] <eroomde> i went to lords a couple of years ago, took all the sunday papers with me, a six pack of tiger beer, some sandwiches, a sun hat, and had a thoroughly agreeable afternoon
[18:40] <eroomde> lords is a cricket ground in london
[18:40] <Randomskk> "a"
[18:41] <fsphil> it's ok eroomde, you're in america. a lot of them call me english :)
[18:41] <eroomde> lucky you hopefully don't mind
[18:41] <eroomde> they might get decapitated if they said that to the wrong person
[18:41] <Hiena> Yeah. Crickett is a sport with style.
[18:41] <fsphil> lol, nah
[18:41] <eroomde> Randomskk: The Oval
[18:41] <fsphil> my accent isn't that strong so I usually just go with it
[18:41] <jonsowman> not be confused with Krikkit
[18:42] <fsphil> wouldn't want to go there
[18:42] <jonsowman> *wop*
[18:42] <eroomde> i had to give up my accent 2 days ago
[18:42] <eroomde> for the first time ever
[18:42] <eroomde> and i was not happy
[18:42] <eroomde> really not happy
[18:42] <fsphil> give up?
[18:42] <eroomde> yes
[18:42] <eroomde> succumb
[18:42] <eroomde> to survive
[18:42] <eroomde> 'could I have some water please?'
[18:42] <arko> what?
[18:42] <eroomde> 'say again hun?'
[18:42] <eroomde> 'some water?'
[18:42] <Hiena> Ehehehehehehe...
[18:42] <eroomde> 'some wat suga?'
[18:43] <eroomde> 'some water....?'
[18:43] <arko> 'sum woahtuh"
[18:43] <eroomde> [she leans right in ear first]
[18:43] <fsphil> ech two ough
[18:43] <arko> british way
[18:43] <eroomde> '...... wudduh'
[18:43] <fsphil> lol
[18:43] <fsphil> oh dear
[18:43] <arko> eye want some wahder"
[18:44] <arko> i dont get how people dont understand the accent
[18:44] <eroomde> it reminded me of that opening line in a PG Wodehouse novel
[18:44] <fsphil> some people here say "wauter"
[18:44] <eroomde> whose name completely escapes me
[18:44] <eroomde> but was funny
[18:44] <eroomde> let me try and find it
[18:44] <arko> maybe im bias becuase i watch british comedies
[18:45] <fsphil> and for some reason windows is prounced "windy"
[18:45] <arko> oh man, went i go to the uk in the summer i want to put on a crappy british accent
[18:45] <eroomde> ah yes, from Luck of the Bodkins:
[18:45] <eroomde> Into the face of the young man who sat on the terrace of the Hotel Magnifique at Cannes there had crept a look of furtive shame, the shifty hangdog look which announces that an Englishman is about to speak French.
[18:45] <fsphil> we should all do it at the conf. really bad immitation BBC english
[18:46] <arko> haha
[18:46] <arko> im down
[18:46] <arko> i'll try, and people will be like "wtf part of uk is this guy from?"
[18:46] <Randomskk> "oh THAT colony"
[18:46] <Randomskk> :P
[18:46] <arko> haha
[18:46] <arko> i must say, my favorite accent is scotish
[18:46] <Randomskk> eroomde: haha, fantastic quote
[18:46] <arko> it sounds more fun
[18:46] <Hiena> Ehem.
[18:46] <arko> scottish*
[18:47] <eroomde> at the aquraium in chicago a bottle of water was 'tree-dah-fa'
[18:47] <JMH_> NORTHERNER: Most of what you call English is London/Home-Counties accent. Not universally admired.
[18:47] <eroomde> which the LCD on the till revealed was Three Dollars and Five cents
[18:47] <fsphil> yea scotland is great. I like the edinburgh accent the most there
[18:47] <eroomde> ah yes, the north
[18:47] <eroomde> i went there once
[18:47] <Upu> o7
[18:48] <Upu> its better up here
[18:48] <eroomde> grimmer
[18:48] <Upu> yup
[18:48] <arko> i need about.. tree fiddy
[18:48] <fsphil> it gets worse the further up and west you go
[18:48] <Upu> but our water doesn't make furry kettles
[18:48] <Upu> thats about all I can come up with
[18:48] <Randomskk> that's why we have brita filters though
[18:48] <Upu> oh our fish and chips and curries are better
[18:48] <Randomskk> i actually had one built in to a kettle once
[18:48] <Randomskk> god
[18:48] <Randomskk> what a terrible idea
[18:48] <eroomde> won't argue about the fish and chips
[18:49] <Randomskk> fish and chips are, but i contend that london curries are better
[18:49] <Randomskk> or can be
[18:49] <eroomde> onces i had in Witby werethe best ever
[18:49] <Randomskk> higher variance perhaps :P
[18:49] <Upu> nah I've tried many
[18:49] <Upu> and they universally suck :)
[18:49] <arko> eroomde: call any american canadian
[18:49] <fsphil> lol
[18:49] <arko> just make sure you have health insurance here
[18:49] <eroomde> though they did announce the end of a 50 mile hike across the north york moors, so anything would have teasted great
[18:49] <fsphil> "I just live it here in Canada"
[18:49] <fsphil> love*
[18:49] <arko> "THIS IS MURICA"
[18:50] <Upu> isn't Canada like America just less the guns ?
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[18:50] <eroomde> well the first night in manhatten the waess said she loved my new zealand accent
[18:50] <Upu> lol
[18:50] <arko> Canada is way more cool
[18:50] <fsphil> canadians have better spelling too ;)
[18:50] <eroomde> i beg your bloody pardon? I do not sound anything other than english
[18:50] <Hiena> Ehem.
[18:50] <arko> both thermally and figuratively
[18:50] <eroomde> even by english standards i sound quite english
[18:50] <Upu> you do
[18:51] <eroomde> i was told so the other day at work by one of the other companies on site
[18:51] <arko> hahahahaha new zealand accent
[18:51] <fsphil> I'm not sure I could tell NZ and OZ apart
[18:51] <Upu> jsut two things : http://global3.memecdn.com/u-s-a-vs-canada_o_688350.jpg
[18:51] <Upu> http://lolvirgin.com/wp-content/uploads/Difference-between-canada-n-USA.jpg
[18:51] <arko> dont depress me upu
[18:51] <fsphil> that USD should have a bullet hole in it
[18:51] <daveake> I was in NZ once when the guy I was working with offered to take me back to his place so I could see his "dick extension"
[18:52] <Randomskk> haha
[18:52] <arko> wat
[18:52] <eroomde> deck
[18:52] <arko> ohhh
[18:52] <eroomde> you should watch Flight of the Concords arko
[18:52] <Upu> oh I also found this which made me lol : http://www.stuffistumbledupon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Uk-snow-fall-snow-winter-meme-canada-russia-usa-forecast-funny-pictures-blog_thumb.jpg
[18:53] <eroomde> not only is it funny, you will absorb the kiwi accent
[18:53] <jonsowman> hehe FotC is great
[18:53] <arko> hahaha
[18:53] <fsphil> it is really funny
[18:53] <fsphil> and I've only seen two episodes
[18:53] <arko> i'll add it to my netflix queue
[18:53] <eroomde> Brit?
[18:53] <eroomde> Prisint.
[18:55] <fsphil> Upu: a friend of mine in St.Johns sent me a picture of a "white out"
[18:55] <arko> eroomde: how are the rockees?
[18:55] <Upu> bet it was as well
[18:55] <fsphil> he took it from his truck -- basically outside there was nothing - just white
[18:55] <eroomde> arko: i am in chicago
[18:56] <Upu> I know we think it rains in the UK but I've been in Iceland when it rained and it was like standing under a waterfall
[18:56] <Upu> basically if you can open your eyes its not raining
[18:56] <daveake> The sam guy in NZ asked if I wanted to go out on his sailing boat. He failed to mention that this was for a race. Seeing as I'd never even been on a sailing boat before he found the ideal task for me. Ballast.
[18:56] <fsphil> I suspect I live in the worst place for interesting weather
[18:56] <arko> on the move?
[18:57] <fsphil> we don't even get earthquakes. what's up with that!
[18:57] <arko> we get them!
[18:57] <arko> shake shake shake
[18:58] <fsphil> I should form the irish earthquake society. we'd mostly just sit around talking about the weather
[18:58] <arko> eroomde: forgot to ask, how do you know doug again?
[18:58] <eroomde> oxygen masks are a thing here, it seems
[18:58] <eroomde> except on the tv adverts all the people wearing them casually as they do their shopping are thin
[18:58] <fsphil> lol
[18:58] <arko> fsphil haha
[18:58] <fsphil> a lot of the japanese tourests in sydney had masks on
[18:58] <fsphil> found that odd
[18:59] <eroomde> whereas IRL all the people i've seen wearing them seem to be occupying 2 seats at the end of the train and wheezing a lot
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[18:59] <Hiena> That's not oxigen, rather is nitro.
[19:00] <fsphil> or food, in gas form
[19:00] <Hiena> One of my friend used to say that to the weed.
[19:02] <arko> i need to get lunch soon
[19:02] <eroomde> storm warnings
[19:02] <arko> im hungry alredy :/
[19:04] <Hiena> Coffee...
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[19:11] <Hiena> Funny. Every year, when i buy the birdseed, the next day the weather suddenly turns to warm and melts the snow.
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[19:18] <arko> with great power comes great responsibility
[19:19] <fsphil> with great power comes great electricity bill
[19:20] <BrainDamage> with great power comes great dE/dt
[19:20] <eroomde> a terrible electricity bill, infact
[19:20] <fsphil> great for the electricity company
[19:21] <eroomde> true
[19:21] <Hiena> Damn, forgot to turn off the spot welder...
[19:21] <eroomde> has it gone on a rampage?
[19:22] <arko> spot weld all the things!
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[19:22] <eroomde> i built a little spot welder once
[19:22] <eroomde> was surprisingly fun and easy
[19:22] <eroomde> hmm, cal train not yet in the station
[19:22] <eroomde> boarding was meant to start about now
[19:23] <arko> just do the train dance
[19:23] <eroomde> been told to sit back and relax for the time ebing
[19:23] <eroomde> but yes, spot welder was surprisingly easy. i quite liked it
[19:23] <eroomde> compared to my previous notions of welding
[19:23] <Hiena> Nope. I set off the cycle switch, so it was just humming ominously.
[19:23] <eroomde> used it to put together a little combustion chamber from thin sheet stainless steel
[19:24] <arko> eroomde: http://www.computerhistory.org/
[19:24] <arko> i dont know if i mentioned this place, but you should go
[19:24] <arko> if you have time
[19:24] <eroomde> i have watched some of their vids online
[19:24] <eroomde> but yeah would be fun to actually get there if i can
[19:25] <arko> yeah it's in mountain view across from google
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[19:25] <eroomde> their talk by pete theiseinger on the MERs is the best talk on the subject i've ever seen
[19:25] <arko> Pete is an awesome dude
[19:26] <arko> i wish i knew these people better :P
[19:26] <arko> Rob is the only guy who actually remembers me
[19:26] <arko> you got more closer than i did and you are on the other side of the world
[19:26] <arko> except right now
[19:27] <arko> wtf
[19:27] <arko> musk gave a talk last weekend
[19:27] <arko> dman it
[19:32] <eroomde> well, in my case it's because there are not many EDL people in the world
[19:32] <eroomde> so it's not difficult to get to know everyone
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[19:35] <arko> true
[19:35] <arko> im more shy than i should be
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[19:40] <eroomde> and as for doug...
[19:50] <arko> you guys went to school together right?
[19:50] <arko> or projects or something
[19:50] <arko> i cant remember
[19:52] <W0OTM> howdy
[19:52] <eroomde> not school
[19:52] <eroomde> he's a decent chunk older than me
[19:52] <eroomde> but we did a few flights together
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[19:53] <SP9UOB_Tom> evening all
[19:53] <arko> ahhh
[19:53] <arko> nice
[19:54] <arko> evening tom
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[19:58] <griffonbot> Received email: PhilipM "Re: [UKHAS] ATMega 1.8v ISP Programming"
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[20:24] <chrisstubbs> just finished the video tut on how to set up the hourly predictor as a VM
[20:24] <chrisstubbs> its only half an hour long..... is that a new record?
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[20:27] <craag> is it running successfully?
[20:27] <chrisstubbs> yeah!
[20:27] <craag> wow, probably then!
[20:28] <chrisstubbs> this is when i find out camtasia dosent record the contents of a VM window.....
[20:28] <chrisstubbs> it does :)
[20:28] <mfa298> the real challenge is can someone else (that doesn't know what they're doing) follow it to install the predictors.
[20:28] <chrisstubbs> i would be interested to find out
[20:28] <craag> yeah.. i misread, thought you had followed it.
[20:30] <chrisstubbs> oh haha, no i thought i would put one together as i havent contributed anything worthwhile to habhub/ukhas so far!
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[20:37] <costyn> ping Upu
[20:37] <Upu> hi costyn
[20:37] <costyn> Upu: so I have trying to source some more sma-sma pigtails, as the one you have on your site
[20:37] <Upu> ok
[20:38] <costyn> Upu: your site is the only place I've been able to find them for reasonable prices :)
[20:38] <Upu> yeah I need to get some more don't I
[20:39] <costyn> Upu: I was wondering if there's a cheaper option than international tracked, for return customers ;)
[20:39] <Upu> pm
[20:39] <fsphil> sending the prime minister to deliver it doesn't seem at all cheap
[20:40] <gonzo_> but think of the posabiliyies of him being lost in the post!
[20:41] <fsphil> think of the choice of people who'd take over
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[20:49] <eroomde> as much as i talk about seeking out original artisanal sourdough pizza from wood fired ovens and stuff, pizza hut can really hit the spot
[20:49] <eroomde> like eating a warmy cheesy blanket
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[20:50] <chrisstubbs> true, supermarket pizzas are so dissapointing in comparison
[20:51] <eroomde> yep
[20:51] <eroomde> that's the worst
[20:51] <eroomde> you can't get worser
[20:51] <eroomde> given how easy it is to make dough aswell
[20:52] <eroomde> overheard:
[20:52] <eroomde> 'it's about 10 miles south of detroit'
[20:52] <eroomde> 'ah, just out of firing range'
[20:52] <SP9UOB_Tom> eroomde: i have small pizzeria about 2 minutes from my flat: http://www.pizzeriavinci.pl/strona/
[20:52] <SP9UOB_Tom> pizza is delicious !
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[20:54] <eroomde> nice!
[20:54] <eroomde> SP9UOB_Tom: there's a place in london i really like and go to a lot
[20:54] <eroomde> with all the aforementioned wood fired niceness
[20:55] <eroomde> there's also a van in oxford were i live that has a wood fired oven built into the back
[20:55] <eroomde> they do really very good pizza too for cheap
[20:55] Action: SP9UOB_Tom is hungry
[20:55] <SP9UOB_Tom> :-)
[20:55] <Laurenceb_> hehe
[20:56] Action: Laurenceb_ knows of this van
[20:56] <eroomde> it's the shizzle isn;t it
[20:56] <Laurenceb_> yup
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[20:57] Action: SP9UOB_Tom was eating pizza in London in small pizzeria near Trafalgar Sq.
[20:58] <eroomde> it can be tricky finding good places to eat super-centrally
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[20:58] <eroomde> good as in, genuine and good and not too expensive
[20:58] <eroomde> around their it's either chains or super expensive restaurtaurants, perhaps part of a hotel
[20:59] <SP9UOB_Tom> anyway i dont like PizzaHut
[20:59] <eroomde> actually that's a bit of a lie, i went here, right near trafalagar the oher day and it was good http://terroirswinebar.com/
[21:00] <eroomde> i have been trying to eat american cheese where it's offered
[21:00] <eroomde> the proper stuff is pretty good!
[21:00] <eroomde> i had Tilston Point, which is a blue (the name is a play on Stilton)
[21:01] <eroomde> it was strong but pretty nice
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[21:12] <fsphil> tonight's met sonde launch from here, http://habhub.org//predict/#!/uuid=e0d6f3105810bbda503924ae11fd03e68f9d2f2b
[21:12] <fsphil> that's some wind
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[21:15] <bbjunkie> indeed, it's been a bit breezy
[21:15] <fsphil> yep. I'm gonna pass on recovering this one
[21:15] <fsphil> I've been in that area though, nice part of the world
[21:18] <bbjunkie> yes, very. try scrolling a few hours ahead, we have some 70+mph winds forecast for later
[21:19] <bbjunkie> could end up in Norway :)
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[21:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> when using the calculator, what does the lat/lon deltas mean?
[21:25] <fsphil> it's the area it downloads wind data for
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[21:25] <eroomde> moffat is nice
[21:25] <eroomde> worth the recovery!
[21:26] <eroomde> they are famous for their toffee
[21:26] <fsphil> it is
[21:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> what should i set it for then?
[21:27] <fsphil> after the hadie:2 search we drove from the dales back to edinburgh via the M6
[21:28] <fsphil> the default is fine OZ1SKY_Brian, unless your predited path goes outside the red box
[21:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it does
[21:28] <fsphil> increasing the deltas makes the box bigger
[21:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok
[21:28] <fsphil> hopefully future versions will just download the data it needs, on demand
[21:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> trying to make one for the airforse sonde tomorrow
[21:28] <fsphil> no more need for the deltas
[21:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> http://habhub.org//predict/#!/uuid=87039961af62eb7736ebf3964123ea7f5b7709ec
[21:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> does that look right?
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[21:29] <fsphil> yep looks fine
[21:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok thanks
[21:30] <fsphil> bring the wine?
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> when I tried the predictor from the university today, it said something about the GFS model not being valid or so
[21:30] <fsphil> it's a bit early for drink Lunar_Lander
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> but back at home it worked with the same situation given
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil, ?
[21:30] <fsphil> btw, bring the wine,,.. ah n/m, it was funny in my head :)
[21:30] <arko> dance dance dance
[21:31] <fsphil> I can't!
[21:31] <fsphil> even my dog leaves the room if I try dancing
[21:31] <x-f> then nobody's watching!
[21:31] <fsphil> my computer would probably shut down
[21:32] <arko> haha
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[21:32] <arko> it would go all Tugger from South Park on you
[21:32] <fsphil> see, even the thought had made Penfold's computer go to sleep
[21:32] <Lunar_Lander> there is a new guy on german scienceblogs about HAB in school
[21:33] <Lunar_Lander> he says he wants to give instructions on how teachers can get started
[21:33] <Lunar_Lander> and says he flew twice last year
[21:33] <Upu> Lithium1972
[21:33] <Lunar_Lander> so he probably knows the regulations
[21:33] <Upu> free password
[21:33] <Upu> pls take one
[21:33] <fsphil> ta
[21:33] <fsphil> that's much better than my Password123
[21:33] <arko> *********
[21:33] <Upu> guess what was on my desk when I came up with that
[21:33] <arko> neat, that hack still works eroomde
[21:34] <Lunar_Lander> or shall I tell him of UKHAS?
[21:34] <fsphil> ukhas isn't much good for .de regulations tbh
[21:34] <mfa298> obviously not an IRC password as that would have turned into ******** :p
[21:35] <fsphil> oh I thought you where all just swearing
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[21:35] <eroomde> still no news on my train :(
[21:35] <arko> seriously?
[21:36] <eroomde> but you get the running commetry to your gratitude and releif
[21:36] <eroomde> srsly
[21:36] <mfa298> sounds like they've been taking lessons from the UK railways.
[21:36] <eroomde> it's not turned up at the station yet
[21:36] <arko> wow man
[21:36] <arko> thats messed up
[21:36] <eroomde> well, they say but a delay of a few hours is not mega unusual on a 50+hr transcontinental train
[21:36] <arko> >_<
[21:37] <arko> interesting
[21:37] <eroomde> the freight trains fet priortiy here
[21:37] <arko> btw, you should play train simulator 2013 on the ride
[21:37] <eroomde> and there are long stretches of only single track
[21:37] <fsphil> oh dear
[21:37] <eroomde> meaning the passenger trains have to pull over onto little tracky laybys and wait, often
[21:37] <eroomde> arko: that's a joke right?
[21:37] <arko> yes
[21:37] <eroomde> good
[21:37] <arko> haha
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[21:38] <arko> this does not sound fun :/
[21:39] <fsphil> if I ever fly to the ISS I'm taking a laptop and playing Frontier
[21:39] <arko> how much was the ticket btw?
[21:39] <arko> fsphil haha, or kerbal
[21:39] <bbjunkie> phil - c64 sim and elite ;)
[21:39] <fsphil> I must try elite
[21:39] <fsphil> I've not played it
[21:40] <fsphil> kerbal looks cool
[21:40] <bbjunkie> me either, but it gets a lot of publicity as being one of the best games of all time
[21:40] <bbjunkie> for the hardware available at the time anyway
[21:41] <fsphil> I spent many an hour crashing into planets in Frontier .. I loved that the universe was so huge
[21:41] <fsphil> looking forward to this new version
[21:41] <eroomde> train here!
[21:41] <eroomde> bbl
[21:41] <arko> woo!
[21:41] <fsphil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw
[21:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> fsphil decent rate is set for 5 m/s, seems wrong?
[21:42] <fsphil> 5m/s is probably close to what they'lld use
[21:42] <fsphil> -d
[21:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 5 m/s seems slow on desent
[21:43] <fsphil> they're not terribly big
[21:43] <fsphil> and they have a chute
[21:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok
[21:44] <fsphil> it depends, but it'll be near that
[21:44] <fsphil> unless the chute fails
[21:44] <fsphil> the castor bay sondes I've tracked fell at about 5m/s
[21:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> check, nothing lands near me this time
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[21:57] <mfa298> these bbc people are clever, apparently the best time to film a sunset is in the evening.
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[21:58] <eroomde> THIS IS AMAZING
[21:59] <Darkside> >_>
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[22:00] <eroomde> i have a comfy seat, a little control panel next to it for air, lights, power, a v dinky mechanism for a pullout conferecne table, a bunk overhead that pulls down, a little clothes rack, and a super friendly steward for our few rooms called nathan
[22:00] <eroomde> who chuckles at everything constantly and keeps bring round tea and coffee and biscuits as the canteen carts haven't opened yet
[22:02] <mfa298> this looks very suitable for HABers: http://amzn.to/VRGcfB
[22:03] <fsphil> is the internet a train service or are you using mobile eroomde?
[22:04] <eroomde> mobile
[22:05] <eroomde> though t-mobile seem to have an effective tethering detection
[22:05] <eroomde> so i am doing all my internet through the habhub server as a socks proxy through ssh on the phone
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[22:09] <arko> eroomde: damn dude, they give you a battlestation or something
[22:09] <arko> conference table
[22:10] <arko> are you on this train for 51 hours now?
[22:10] <eroomde> well, i maybe oversell it
[22:10] <eroomde> but it's big enough for 2
[22:10] <eroomde> correct
[22:10] <arko> wow
[22:10] <arko> no stops to walk outside?
[22:10] <eroomde> it's a travellibng village
[22:10] <eroomde> restaurant carts, cafe carts, observation carts with huge plexiglass windows and ceilings, all sorts
[22:10] <arko> crazy
[22:11] <eroomde> oh you can walk outside yep
[22:11] <arko> wow man, that sounds fun
[22:11] <eroomde> they do stops
[22:11] <eroomde> but mostly for smokers i think
[22:11] <arko> gotcha
[22:12] <arko> sounds like a fun way to travel
[22:12] <eroomde> i'm looking forward to it
[22:12] <eroomde> instantly pleased with the decision to not just buy a seat in coach
[22:12] <eroomde> lesson learned
[22:12] <arko> lesson noted
[22:14] <eroomde> there are rooms and roomettes. i'm in a roomette. rooms are bigger and have a builtin loo and maybe shower i think
[22:14] <arko> dang, thats just wild
[22:15] <arko> how can you fit all that
[22:15] <arko> i just want to take this train now just to be all old school
[22:15] <eroomde> dunno. i think the rooms have 2 bunks, one can be double
[22:15] <eroomde> so good if your a couple or small family
[22:15] <arko> hmm interesting
[22:16] <Laurenceb__> ma waifu
[22:17] <chrisstubbs> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3a9WrfzZOM&feature=player_detailpage#t=293s
[22:18] <chrisstubbs> yes please!
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[22:20] <arko> eroomde: are the rockies going to happen during the day time?
[22:21] <arko> damn i just realized how cool it would also look during night with moonlight
[22:21] <arko> you better have your camera with you
[22:22] <eroomde> i beleive so and yes i have my camera!
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[22:24] <eroomde> so apparently the trip is a bit dull, scenery wise, to denver
[22:24] <eroomde> and then completely spectacular for the rest of it
[22:24] Nick change: W0OTM_ -> W0OTM-iPAD
[22:26] <arko> heh, yeah
[22:26] <arko> middle america is very bland
[22:28] <W0OTM-iPAD> What would it take to support APRS tracking in the mobile tracking app?
[22:29] <mattbrejza> well if it showed up on spacenear then nothing
[22:29] <W0OTM-iPAD> That's a great tracker, and would be REALLY popular if it supported APRS
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[22:30] <arko> W0OTM-iPAD: have you tried APRSDroid?
[22:30] <jonsowman> are you suggesting fetching APRS data from aprs.fi or something?
[22:31] <W0OTM-iPAD> jonsowman: Yes
[22:31] <jonsowman> fair enough, wouldn't be hard to do
[22:31] <jonsowman> it's open source
[22:31] <lz1dev> W0OTM-iPAD: we have script to copy aprs data to the tracker
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[22:32] <W0OTM> that would be great and REALLY useful for North Amican Flight
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[22:33] <W0OTM> I wrote something very crude - http://www.ihabproject.com/Tracker/?vehicle=&mission_id=iHAB-8
[22:33] <W0OTM> But if you already have the aprs.fi import script, that would be great
[22:33] <W0OTM> I think the mobile tracker is GREAT!
[22:34] <jonsowman> looks suspicously like the old spacenear.us...
[22:34] <W0OTM> it is
[22:34] <jonsowman> :)
[22:34] <W0OTM> taken from an old version couple years ago
[22:35] <W0OTM> and modified for APRS
[22:35] <W0OTM> I also calculate altitude and assent/descent in ft/min
[22:36] <eroomde> right, signing off for a bit. gonna explore the train
[22:36] <eroomde> bbl
[22:36] <W0OTM> but I think we should merge these efforts
[22:37] <jonsowman> well spacenear.us is a bit different these days
[22:37] <jonsowman> what with habitat et al
[22:37] <W0OTM> who is dev on spacenear and the mobile tracker?
[22:37] <Upu> "Team Amazing"
[22:37] <jonsowman> quite a few people
[22:37] <W0OTM> I REALLY think there is an opportunity for NA HAB groups to use an alternative to aprs.fi for tracking
[22:38] <jonsowman> well I mean you can post data to habitat
[22:38] <jonsowman> you can even write an APRS parser for it
[22:38] <Upu> we can import APRS data now on to Spacenear.us
[22:38] <Upu> but I think it bypasses Habitat
[22:38] <jonsowman> is this James' script?
[22:39] <lz1dev> they do require credentials
[22:39] <lz1dev> not anyone can do it :\
[22:39] <Upu> yes
[22:39] <jonsowman> hmm
[22:39] <Upu> it doesn't actually work anymore
[22:39] <jonsowman> I think it's straight to spacenear?
[22:39] <Upu> yeah it is
[22:40] <lz1dev> but it doesnt work?
[22:40] <Upu> but it doesn't seem to work any more
[22:40] <Upu> #habhub
[22:40] <jonsowman> yeah
[22:40] <jonsowman> I can't even remember when it was last used
[22:40] <jonsowman> worked well
[22:41] <jonsowman> but there's no reason you couldn't post data to habitat
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> hi W0OTM, nice to see you
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[22:48] <W0OTM> Hi Lunar_Lander
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> how have you been recently?
[22:50] <W0OTM> Good, busy busy
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[22:51] <chrisstubbs> Finished at last: http://chris-stubbs.co.uk/wp/?p=137
[22:52] <fsphil> I keep thinking of making a blogsite for the interwebs
[22:53] <craag> I started writing up how install it on ubuntu at one point, but then couldn't make sense of some of the steps I'd taken..
[22:53] <craag> A lot of plugging different python module versions in.
[22:53] <chrisstubbs> i set this up as a online thing to compliment my CV when i was job hunting... got a job... then never updated it again :P
[22:53] <fsphil> I think it was written by pan-dimentional beings
[22:54] <chrisstubbs> haha i think ive just about got it now "going through each command and what (I think) it does." just about sums it up
[22:54] <chrisstubbs> should i put this on UKHAS? or just pop a link to it somewhere?
[22:56] <arko> chrisstubbs: hah! i did the same too
[22:56] <arko> one day im like, this site is sad, i need to update
[22:56] <jonsowman> your rewards will be in the post
[22:58] <chrisstubbs> hope someone fonds it useful! you guys have been so helpful with sorting out my payload/code/habstuff
[22:58] <arko> i did it with the help of DanielRichman and didn't document it.. thanks for this chrisstubbs
[22:58] <arko> nice to have it all listed
[22:59] <mfa298> chrisstubbs: when you're image is uploaded if you want someone to test it give me a prod and I can test it on ESXi 4.1
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[22:59] <chrisstubbs> okay, its uploading at about 0.00001kb/s so i will let you know in a few days :P
[22:59] <mfa298> lol, the joys of UK internet
[22:59] <arko> haha
[22:59] <chrisstubbs> my list is just a slightly changed version of http://hab.yapd.net/setup.html
[23:00] <chrisstubbs> written by mfa298?
[23:00] <mfa298> yup, that's my notes
[23:00] <mfa298> which was mostly based on the irc logs from when arko did his install.
[23:00] <arko> good times
[23:01] <arko> now i have 3 predictors running :)
[23:01] <chrisstubbs> they were almost perfect, only needed the updated EPEL rpm, the web root slightly changed, and apache set up
[23:01] <arko> this channel was super nice and helpful
[23:01] <chrisstubbs> i thought about setting up another one, probably easier to duplicate the VM now ;)
[23:01] <arko> chrisstubbs!
[23:01] <chrisstubbs> YES! beats the #arduino one...
[23:02] <arko> i kinda did a little "hackery"
[23:02] <arko> lots of renaming
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[23:02] <arko> and folder path changes
[23:02] <jonsowman> arko: why 3?!
[23:02] <arko> 3 possible launch sites ;)
[23:02] <jonsowman> ah
[23:02] <arko> wanted alternatives
[23:02] <arko> http://wiki.032.la/nsl/HABEX2#HABEX_Flight_Prediction_Software
[23:02] <S_Mark> Hi all,
[23:03] <arko> hello
[23:03] <S_Mark> http://twitter.com/stratodean, got a project twitter and site up and running if anyone wants to follow us!
[23:03] <arko> you mean
[23:03] <arko> https://twitter.com/stratodean
[23:03] <arko> :)
[23:03] <jonsowman> S_Mark: cool, good stuff. how's it going?
[23:03] <arko> the comma throws it off
[23:03] <mfa298> I've got a whole load of scenario.json files and I just symlink to the relevant one for what I want
[23:03] <jonsowman> arko: get a better terminal emulator
[23:04] <jonsowman> ;)
[23:04] <arko> :P
[23:04] Action: arko follows
[23:04] <jonsowman> yeah why not
[23:04] <chrisstubbs> followed :) and nice wiki arko. will add that to my infinite list of bookmarks haha
[23:04] <S_Mark> Yeah good so far thank you. Have mentioned ths IRC a few times on there lol
[23:05] <arko> chrisstubbs: thanks dude, it's still a work in progress
[23:05] <jonsowman> S_Mark: so when's launch? ;)
[23:06] <S_Mark> Looking at a month I reckon. Tracker is built but haven't written that up yet. Need a launch site and CAA first.
[23:06] <jonsowman> S_Mark: sounds good. well if you want to launch at Cambridge you're very welcome
[23:07] <S_Mark> Ah that's a good offer thank you, will defo keep that in mind.
[23:07] <Upu> Was the GPS one from me S_Mark ?
[23:07] <jonsowman> unfortunately this would mean you'd miss out on the delightful experience of getting a NOTAM from the CAA
[23:07] <S_Mark> Yes it was Upu
[23:07] <Upu> what tracks came off ?
[23:07] <eroomde> recommend this offer ^
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[23:07] <mattbrejza> jonsowman: we got a 'yea thats fine' in a few days :P
[23:08] <jonsowman> mattbrejza: it's not the first from you lot though
[23:08] <jonsowman> also have you actually got the document?
[23:08] <mattbrejza> it was a 'ok on launch site, ill do it later'
[23:09] <jonsowman> exactly
[23:09] <mattbrejza> yea the launch site might have been used before but not by us
[23:09] <mattbrejza> i thought htats still good going?
[23:09] <jonsowman> it's certainly an improvement
[23:09] <jonsowman> as opposed to no contact for weeks
[23:09] <S_Mark> The tracks on my stripboard. Your GPS is fine, I craeted a sheild for the arduino Uno, but you probably know the pins are not the same spacing on the one side, so I bent some pins to fit, but this stressed the tracks on the stripboard and they broke :(. No worries now though as we have fixed it
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[23:09] <Upu> ah ok was going to say if it was my board send it back I'll repair that
[23:10] <Upu> right past my bed time, night all
[23:10] <S_Mark> Ah cool, thanks for the offer, all ok at the mo.
[23:11] <jonsowman> S_Mark: send CUSF an email (contact@cusf.co.uk) if you'd like to use our site
[23:11] <arko> night Upu
[23:11] <eroomde> that arduino spacing thing is the biggest annoyance in the history of electronics hobbying since having to to include MAX232 chips in the days before ftdi
[23:11] <jonsowman> you're not wrong eroomde
[23:12] <S_Mark> Ah cool thanks Jon, will write that down now. Yeah stupid arduino. I read on some site that it was a last minute 'zero hour' mistake before the boards went into production and they have just left it like that ever since
[23:12] <eroomde> blizzardy here
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[23:12] <eroomde> though i am nice and warm in my hobbit hole berth
[23:12] <jonsowman> they did give a reason for it at one point
[23:12] <jonsowman> but I've forgotten
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[23:13] <russss> eroomde: where are you travelling to?
[23:14] <arko> he's going to hogwarts
[23:14] <arko> from what the train sounds like
[23:14] <russss> heh
[23:14] <fsphil> watch out for dementors!
[23:15] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:17] <S_Mark> OK, I'm off now guys, speak soon, cheers for the follows!
[23:17] <jonsowman> good luck
[23:17] <fsphil> g'nite!
[23:17] <arko> later!
[23:17] <eroomde> i too read, i think from the horses mouth, that it was a stupid mistake
[23:17] <lz1dev> W0OTM: when is your next flight
[23:18] <eroomde> russss: san francisco
[23:18] <chrisstubbs> im off too, night all
[23:18] <eroomde> from chicago
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[23:18] <russss> ah nice
[23:18] <W0OTM> Feb 16th
[23:19] <W0OTM> we've been cleared for ample supply of He in 2013
[23:19] <arko> time to head to school
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