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[03:16] <arko> woot
[03:16] <arko> test hab is live
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[03:26] <arko> sweet, turns out being careful with mass paid off
[03:26] <arko> 400g light
[03:29] <arko> http://www.flickr.com/photos/arkorobotics/8407546026/in/photostream
[03:29] <arko> http://www.flickr.com/photos/arkorobotics/8406452027/in/photostream/
[03:29] <arko> dont mind the antenna, it will be a dipole for the real flight
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[07:48] <fsphil> careful arko, eroomde might throw it down the stairs
[07:50] <arko> stairs?
[07:51] <x-f> yes, eroomde says that, if you're not ready to throw your payload down the stairs, you should not fly it
[07:51] <arko> oh!
[07:51] <arko> i invite him to do so
[07:52] <fsphil> it's a good thought test
[07:52] <arko> the insides are not secured with nasa grade technora tied
[07:52] <arko> tis :)
[07:52] <arko> oh man
[07:52] <arko> rum + ginger beer
[07:52] <fsphil> had it in mind when I redesigned my antenna
[07:52] <arko> this is amazing
[07:53] <arko> does it really get beat up that much at high altitudes
[07:53] <fsphil> not always, but it can do
[07:53] <fsphil> it's also the landing
[07:54] <arko> oh.
[07:54] <fsphil> you'd ideally want it transmitting after it hits the ground
[07:54] <arko> the landings isn't a huge deal
[07:54] <arko> true
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[10:43] <dharnke> hello, i'm working on my tracker, and wanted to ask what "Warning!, can't upload!, either in offline mode, or your callsign is not set" (displayed on dl-fldigi)
[10:47] <eroomde> -18C with windchill
[10:47] <eroomde> woooo
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[10:49] <fsphil> it's pretty much what it says dharnke
[10:49] <fsphil> but you can ignore it unless you want to upload to a map
[10:49] <fsphil> probably best to be in offline mode during testing
[10:53] <dharnke> my gps can talk to the satellites and output the data serially, and the txing the data gives me the problem
[10:54] <fsphil> what's the problem?
[10:55] <dharnke> i think it is my loop
[10:56] <dharnke> i can send serially my gps data or just tx void data $$Dharnke,00:00:00,0,0,123,0,99,99;*BEF6, one or the other
[10:57] <fsphil> I'm not sure I understand. You mean you can't transmit your string over the radio?
[10:58] <dharnke> yes, i cannot transmit the gps string
[10:58] <fsphil> are you able to transmit anythign?
[10:59] <dharnke> yes,$$Dharnke,00:00:00,0,0,123,0,99,99;*BEF6, which i think is unfixed data
[10:59] <fsphil> indeed
[11:01] <dharnke> i will work on fixing the loop, but wanted to ask when the gps is fixed, on the dl-fldigi would it automatically show the long, lat data
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[11:09] <fsphil> no, you need a document setup on habitat for that
[11:09] <fsphil> I'd leave that until you've got it successfully sending strings
[11:10] <eroomde> 2 - 4 hours before my international rocaming starts working
[11:10] <eroomde> sigh
[11:10] <eroomde> this is OT sorry
[11:10] <fsphil> well it's a kind of tracking
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[11:11] <fsphil> I forgot to get my mobile unlocked before leaving home, so was kinda stuck there
[11:12] <fsphil> thankfully sms roaming isn't too expensive
[11:12] <eroomde> indeed, that's all i want it for
[11:12] <eroomde> texting friends who i'm visiting
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[11:13] <fsphil> ah, I was texting home
[11:14] <fsphil> I'm not sure if texting a 'local' number while roaming would count as roaming x2
[11:14] <fsphil> probably, knowing O2
[11:16] <eroomde> flat 35p/message here
[11:16] <eroomde> says the 3 website
[11:18] <x-f> fsphil, decoded telemetry from dl-fldigi goes to the habitat and then back to dl-fldigi, to fill the lat, lon, bearing and distance fields?
[11:20] <Darkside> nah
[11:20] <Darkside> that part is done in the software
[11:20] <Darkside> it assumes certain things
[11:20] <Darkside> or maybe it does go back to habitat now
[11:21] <fsphil> it fetches the description of the fields from habitat
[11:23] <x-f> hmm..
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[11:30] <x-f> well, i made a payload document with integer coordinates, and dl-fldigi displayed bearing and distance incorrectly (i guess, that's expected), but then i transmitted them as floats, and dl-fldigi cleared all fields (payload document wasn't edited)
[11:30] <nosebleedkt> hi all
[11:30] <x-f> hi, you
[11:31] <mattbrejza> x-f: i think fldigi correctly displaying coordinates using a payload doc is still WIP
[11:31] <mattbrejza> or maybe you dont have the latest version, i havnt really been keeping up
[11:32] <x-f> it is the latest
[11:32] <mattbrejza> guess its planned then
[11:34] <x-f> ok then, i was just wondering
[11:36] <nosebleedkt> fsphil,
[11:37] <nosebleedkt> actually, i forgot what size of parachute i need
[11:37] <nosebleedkt> |I have this one
[11:37] <nosebleedkt> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/177643_546335618713820_1416602988_o.jpg
[11:38] <nosebleedkt> but i dont know what's its size
[11:38] <nosebleedkt> and i want to order a bigger one.
[11:38] <fsphil> measuring tape
[11:38] <nosebleedkt> from http://randomsolutions.co.uk
[11:38] <x-f> nosebleedkt, if you still have its bag, there is a tag with its size
[11:39] <nosebleedkt> im not sure if it came with a bag. it come in a box with the balloon
[11:39] <nosebleedkt> ah yes the bag
[11:39] <nosebleedkt> i have it
[11:40] <fsphil> or the confirmation email
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[11:44] <nosebleedkt> i have dropped my old email
[11:44] <nosebleedkt> sometime ago :D
[11:45] <fsphil> I still have my very first email address :)
[11:46] <nosebleedkt> fsphil,
[11:46] <nosebleedkt> who is that guy with that page?
[11:46] <nosebleedkt> is he here?
[11:46] <eroomde> whether or not beyonce lip-synced or live sang the national anthem at obama's inaugoration is getting wall-to-wall coverage here
[11:46] <eroomde> still
[11:46] <eroomde> abc, cnn, nbc, fox
[11:46] <eroomde> cannot escape it
[11:47] <fsphil> never mind corruption in government then
[11:47] <fsphil> someone who can't sing might have lip-synced
[11:47] <fsphil> *shock*
[11:48] <fsphil> you'll need to be more specific nosebleedkt
[11:48] <nosebleedkt> randomsolutions.co.uk
[11:48] <fsphil> oh, steve
[11:49] <nosebleedkt> his nick here?
[11:49] <fsphil> rocketboy
[11:49] <nosebleedkt> pff
[11:49] <nosebleedkt> missing
[11:49] <nosebleedkt> :P
[11:49] <eroomde> right, chicago hotels all booked. time for food then sunrise. sunrises here are pretty
[11:49] <eroomde> bbl
[11:50] <fsphil> sunrises are nice here too, just the clouds gets in the way
[11:50] <fsphil> -s
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[11:51] <nosebleedkt> hahaha
[11:52] <nosebleedkt> that uk clouds suck
[12:27] <gonzo__> and the rain and the snow and......
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[12:31] <griffonbot> Received email: Philip Crump "[UKHAS] HABrotate - Automatic Flight tracking with PstRotator"
[12:36] <Laurenceb> never mind the chute
[12:36] <Laurenceb> its the weather im excited by
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[12:40] <griffonbot> Received email: Anthony Stirk "Re: [UKHAS] HABrotate - Automatic Flight tracking with PstRotator"
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[13:10] <griffonbot> Received email: Graham Shirville "Re: [UKHAS] HABrotate - Automatic Flight tracking with PstRotator"
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[14:41] <lz1dev> anyone here who can help me with some sun position calculations?
[14:42] <mfa298> that's easy to do for the UK, hidden behind clouds :p
[14:49] <nick_> Is this for the nasa comp?
[14:55] <lz1dev> no, personal project
[14:55] <lz1dev> just not very familiar with the maths involved
[14:56] <SpeedEvil> are you happy with 3d trig?
[14:57] <lz1dev> sure
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> well, it's broadly just a rotating inclined sphere, rotating on an elliptical orbit
[15:01] <lz1dev> im trying to figure out the exact position, on earth
[15:01] <lz1dev> at which the sun is at zenith
[15:02] <SpeedEvil> the point in line with the centres of earth and sun
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[15:10] <lz1dev> yes, on the surface
[15:10] <lz1dev> i've being approaching this from the wrong side
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[15:38] <Laurenceb> http://www.b3tards.com/u/80a9bf170895cf97aeb9/bannedvimodgirl.jpg
[15:38] <Laurenceb> ma waifu
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[15:50] <cuddykid> ping UpuWork - PM
[15:59] <x-f> what has been seen, ..
[16:04] <lz1dev> will be forever remember and ocassionally appear in your dreams?
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> girls waxing is OK. Unless it's moustache waxing.
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[17:21] <arko> eroomde: good job brining the weather here
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[17:52] <jcoxon> evening all
[17:52] <chrisstubbs> evening
[17:52] <arko> evening
[17:52] <jonsowman> evening
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[17:56] <anerDev> hi guys !
[17:56] <anerDev> fsphil ! =D
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[18:23] <eroomde> arko: i try
[18:24] <eroomde> it is bitter here
[18:24] <eroomde> like being stabbed in the face walking down 5th ave this morning
[18:24] <arko> lol
[18:24] <arko> ny is a bitch during winter
[18:25] <eroomde> got some books tho
[18:25] <arko> nice
[18:25] <eroomde> to keep me entertained in the dark hours of the zephyr train
[18:26] <eroomde> and spent about 4 hrs just now at MoMA
[18:26] <arko> find a good book store?
[18:26] <arko> did you find yoko "singing"
[18:26] <arko> ?
[18:26] <eroomde> is she around?
[18:26] <eroomde> i have heard references to her a bit recently
[18:26] <eroomde> including at MoMA just now
[18:26] <eroomde> i just went to barnes and noble on fifth
[18:27] <eroomde> got some wodehouse and some waugh
[18:27] <eroomde> warming stuff
[18:27] <Randomskk> typical brit in america :P
[18:27] <arko> dude
[18:27] <eroomde> i'm having an hour or so of down time now. the last 2 days of mega mega marching around the island are taking their toll
[18:27] <arko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bmlzw
[18:27] <arko> if you can watch that for more than 10 seconds
[18:27] <arko> you are a champion
[18:27] <eroomde> then gonna hit a pub then head back to meatpacking for dinner with some family friends
[18:28] <arko> nice
[18:28] <arko> damn, must be great to ingress there too
[18:28] <eroomde> there was a load of tokyo stuff there
[18:28] <eroomde> and she apparently left a bunch of stuff for them
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[18:28] <eroomde> jesus
[18:28] <eroomde> yes i would have noticed this if she was there
[18:28] <arko> haha
[18:28] <arko> she could join the beatles
[18:29] <eroomde> got introduced to basketball last night
[18:29] <eroomde> be a lovely girl from KU
[18:29] <eroomde> who despised K-state
[18:29] <eroomde> tey were playing each other
[18:29] <eroomde> apparently A Big Rivallry
[18:29] <arko> bah
[18:29] <eroomde> i'm amazed that inter-univeristy sport is so big
[18:29] <arko> i dont get that stuff
[18:29] <arko> seriously stupid
[18:29] <eroomde> we only have the boat race in the uk
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[18:29] <arko> USC and UCLA here
[18:31] <eroomde> i looked forward to absorbing it
[18:31] <arko> i watched football once
[18:31] <arko> i got bored
[18:31] <arko> american football btw
[18:32] <arko> i never caught on to sports stuff, and saying "we did it"
[18:32] <eroomde> yeah i dont understand that
[18:32] <eroomde> rugby with padding and it seems to have to stop and reset itself every 4 seconds
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[18:34] <arko> yeah
[18:35] <arko> somedays i kinda wish i could get that excited
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[18:36] <eroomde> this girl from KU did
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[18:36] <eroomde> jumping up and down in between fragments of conversation
[18:37] <arko> if they were robots maybe
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[18:37] <arko> heh
[18:38] <eroomde> lol
[18:38] <eroomde> yes robotwars/battlebots was good
[18:38] <eroomde> televised sport at its finest
[18:38] <arko> FIRST Robotics competitions were exciting for me too
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[18:38] <arko> but thats because I was in it
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[18:42] <arko> i guess when it your school it's different
[18:42] <arko> it's
[18:42] <arko> eroomde: hear from tom?
[18:43] <eroomde> no...
[18:43] <eroomde> it's still in my draft folder
[18:43] <eroomde> sigh
[18:43] <arko> >_>
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[18:43] <arko> i am disappointment
[18:43] <eroomde> maybe if i actually send it there will be a better chance of a reply
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[18:54] <anerDev> anyone can write my nickname ? I'm testing a function in my IRC client ! Thank you =D
[18:54] <jcoxon> anerDev, hi
[18:55] Action: fsphil offers anerDev some cake
[18:55] <arko> anerDev:
[18:55] <daveake> my nickname
[18:55] <arko> haha
[18:55] <eroomde> anerDev: you can try typing your password too, and the irc client will just turn it into stars
[18:55] <fsphil> I guess we all failed that test eh
[18:55] <eroomde> so for example, my password is *******
[18:55] <arko> ********
[18:56] <arko> woah it works
[18:56] <eroomde> see? cool huh
[18:56] <arko> horsefucker69
[18:56] <arko> woops not all passwords
[18:56] <eroomde> just your IRC password
[18:56] <fsphil> mind the language :)
[18:56] <arko> oh that makes sense
[18:56] <arko> sorry
[18:56] <daveake> Try your pin number
[18:56] <arko> SSN :P
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[18:56] <daveake> and send me the card so I can check it :)
[18:57] <arko> hehe
[18:58] <eroomde> i do get a bit scared at the lack on chip and pin over here
[18:58] <eroomde> if someone borrowed your card you'd be f*cked
[18:58] <arko> welcome to america
[18:59] Action: arko hands eroomde a burger with fries
[18:59] <eroomde> lol
[18:59] <eroomde> have had a few
[18:59] <arko> doing it right
[18:59] <fsphil> almost native
[19:00] <fsphil> not wait...
[19:00] <fsphil> -t
[19:00] <eroomde> i still keep pointedly asking for directions to the toilets
[19:01] <eroomde> i wish neither to fall asleep nor have a bath
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[19:01] <arko> hahaha
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[19:01] <eroomde> so i won't give in to these prudish euphamisms
[19:01] <arko> water closet?
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[19:01] <arko> bathroom
[19:01] <arko> hahaha
[19:02] <eroomde> yes, restroom and bathroom
[19:02] <eroomde> restrom!?
[19:02] <arko> restroom yeah
[19:02] <arko> rest while doing business
[19:02] <eroomde> no one goes there to rest
[19:02] <x-f> :)
[19:02] <arko> true, all this processed food really hurts
[19:02] <eroomde> i just want to have a piss
[19:03] <eroomde> i am still v happy after yesterday's sandwich
[19:03] <arko> just say that
[19:03] <eroomde> did i show u arko?
[19:03] <arko> "excuse me, i'd like to have a piss"
[19:03] <arko> eroomde: nope
[19:03] <arko> linkyy?
[19:03] <eroomde> http://www.flickr.com/photos/eroomde/8405881579/in/photostream
[19:04] <arko> DUDE
[19:04] <arko> i hate you now
[19:04] <arko> that looks damn good
[19:04] <arko> bring some
[19:05] <arko> carry on in an temp/hum controlled box
[19:05] <eroomde> i walked 4 miles through -20 to get to lower east side
[19:05] <arko> worth it
[19:05] <arko> that looks amazing
[19:05] <eroomde> just to get me a katz pastrami sandwich
[19:05] <eroomde> and oh god it was good
[19:05] <eroomde> pastrami, rye bread, mustard
[19:05] <arko> :')
[19:05] <eroomde> and some really weapons grade gherkins
[19:06] <arko> oh man, theres some good food places you need to try here
[19:06] <arko> depends what you want
[19:06] <eroomde> general photo-age of yesterday
[19:06] <eroomde> http://www.flickr.com/photos/eroomde/
[19:07] <eroomde> i love everything really
[19:07] <eroomde> anywhere that is serious and genuine, i'm all over it
[19:07] <eroomde> whatever if the local great thing
[19:07] <eroomde> is*
[19:07] <arko> hmmm
[19:07] <arko> like bratwurst?
[19:07] <anerDev> thank you guys ! =D work !
[19:07] <anerDev> loool
[19:08] <eroomde> arko: yes very much
[19:08] <arko> dude
[19:08] <arko> perfect
[19:08] <arko> i know where we are going
[19:08] <eroomde> german food suits me to a T
[19:08] <eroomde> cheese, bread, sausage and beer
[19:08] <arko> space shuttle -> Wurstkuche -> hackerspace
[19:08] <eroomde> all socially acceptable at 8am
[19:08] <eroomde> my kinda place
[19:08] <arko> tuesday night
[19:08] <arko> hehe
[19:08] <eroomde> that sounds like an amazing day arko
[19:08] <arko> tep
[19:09] <arko> yep*
[19:09] <eroomde> totally totally keen
[19:09] <arko> invite tom too :P
[19:09] <fsphil> do you get to go inside the shuttle or have to admire from afar?
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[19:10] <arko> afar
[19:10] <arko> sadly
[19:10] <arko> but im happy
[19:10] <fsphil> still cool
[19:10] <bertrik> arko: is tuesday international hackerspace day, or something?
[19:10] <arko> people would degrade it
[19:10] <arko> yes!
[19:10] <fsphil> good point
[19:10] <arko> it si
[19:10] <eroomde> arko: i wouldn't
[19:10] <eroomde> i would honor it
[19:10] <arko> me too
[19:11] <arko> but walking in it
[19:11] <arko> wearing it down
[19:11] <arko> touching and breaking things
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[19:11] <eroomde> though i might borrow some of the $600/ea rockwell toggle switch guards
[19:11] <arko> haha
[19:11] <arko> "borrow"
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[19:13] <eroomde> this girl was sweet
[19:13] <eroomde> http://www.flickr.com/photos/eroomde/8407317159/in/photostream
[19:13] <eroomde> not the happiest
[19:13] <arko> who is she?
[19:14] <eroomde> no idea
[19:14] <eroomde> just a random moment i snapped
[19:14] <anerDev> good pic !
[19:14] <arko> heh
[19:14] <anerDev> c
[19:14] <anerDev> !
[19:15] <arko> damn dude
[19:15] <arko> FinePix X100 shoots damn well
[19:15] <fsphil> FiOS QUANTUM.. not fast enough to motion blur
[19:16] <arko> i wish ATT didnt buy my block so I could get fios
[19:16] <fsphil> I've never understood why they restrict areas to a single isp
[19:16] <arko> "capitalism"
[19:16] <fsphil> it's the opposite of capitalism
[19:16] <arko> yeah
[19:16] <arko> hence quotes ;)
[19:16] <SpeedEvil> nothing is more capitalist than monopolies!
[19:17] <fsphil> that's an artifical monopoly
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[19:17] <fsphil> wasn't there somewhere in the UK with only one DSL provider?
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[19:19] <eroomde> isn't everywhere basically BT?
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[19:20] <SpeedEvil> open reach
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[19:21] <anerDev> test
[19:22] <eroomde> failed
[19:22] <fsphil> ah, Kingston upon Hull
[19:23] <eroomde> arko: i took the metro a decent distance
[19:23] <eroomde> not as bad as it could have been
[19:23] <eroomde> no rats or corpses
[19:23] <arko> crazy people?
[19:23] <eroomde> nope
[19:23] <arko> impossible
[19:23] <eroomde> but i was going to upper east side
[19:23] <arko> oh
[19:23] <eroomde> where you get the right sort of people
[19:23] <eroomde> although that line carries onto east harlem
[19:23] <arko> go to bronx or queens
[19:23] <eroomde> where you apparently get the wrong sort of people
[19:23] <arko> yeah
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[19:24] <fsphil> left handed people, it's just not right
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[19:27] <eroomde> ho
[19:28] <eroomde> arko: litterally the tabat which i had this sadnwich
[19:28] <eroomde> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE
[19:28] <arko> i would make them keep shooting that scene
[19:28] <arko> screw up lines
[19:28] <arko> get like 4 sandwiches
[19:32] <eroomde> 4 might kill you
[19:32] <arko> from too much awesome
[19:32] <arko> ?
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[19:33] <anerDev> good dinner guys ! =D
[19:33] <eroomde> exactly
[19:33] <eroomde> the liver can only take so much awesome at one time
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[19:35] <eroomde> ahem
[19:35] <eroomde> http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/01/23/uksa-gets-new-chief-executive-with-footnotes/
[19:35] <eroomde> please note what he is holding in te picture
[19:36] <arko> reaction engine model?
[19:36] <arko> that or a broken sr-71
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[19:37] <eroomde> piss off :p
[19:37] <arko> :P
[19:37] <arko> it's the reaction engines mockup right?
[19:38] <arko> the picture is tiny
[19:38] <eroomde> yep
[19:38] <eroomde> the little models
[19:38] <fsphil> that's even smaller than the model I saw
[19:38] <arko> nice
[19:38] <eroomde> available from shops
[19:39] <eroomde> i was thinking of flying one of those models on a hab
[19:39] <arko> haha
[19:39] <fsphil> you'd need to put a cork over the pointy bit :)
[19:39] <arko> "not photoshopped, totally at 100,000ft"
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[19:41] <eroomde> technically correct
[19:41] <eroomde> the best kind of correct
[19:41] <fsphil> hehe
[19:42] <fsphil> it does look cool
[19:42] <fsphil> the sci-fi nerd in me wants the engines to glow blue
[19:42] <arko> duuude
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[19:43] <eroomde> can insert LEDs up its jacksie for the flight
[19:43] <arko> do it!
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[19:48] <arko> aww, found out on of my friends is moving back to Sunderland
[19:48] <arko> :/
[19:49] <eroomde> in the UK?
[19:49] <arko> yeah
[19:51] <eroomde> from california?
[19:51] <arko> yes
[19:51] <eroomde> they're swapping california for sunderland?
[19:51] <fsphil> that is hard to believe
[19:51] <arko> yes
[19:51] <arko> they are cray
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[19:53] <eroomde> mmm
[19:55] <arko> i think he's moving back
[19:55] <arko> which sucks
[19:57] <arko> is it ghetto?
[19:59] <fsphil> they have a football team. that's all I know about it
[19:59] <fsphil> and I don't know anything about football
[19:59] <fsphil> so I'm not sure how I even know that
[20:00] <eroomde> it's one of those northern towns
[20:00] <eroomde> used to be full of honest manufacturing work and mining
[20:00] <eroomde> that all went in the 80s
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[20:00] <arko> aww
[20:01] <eroomde> then had all the usual social problmes of mass unemployment
[20:01] <Upu> ping craag
[20:01] <eroomde> still not really fixed
[20:01] <eroomde> but i mean it's not detroit or anyhthing
[20:01] <eroomde> just a bit depressed
[20:02] <arko> hahaha, everyone knows about detroit huh?
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[20:03] <Upu> ping cuddykid
[20:03] <cuddykid> evening Upu
[20:03] <Upu> hey cuddykid pm
[20:05] <eroomde> http://i.imgur.com/pTUFyLs.jpg
[20:06] <fsphil> government
[20:08] <eroomde> http://i.imgur.com/CnpCjDm.jpg
[20:09] <lz1dev> nerdy
[20:09] <eroomde> http://i.imgur.com/01ANC2r.jpg
[20:09] <arko> haha
[20:10] <fsphil> I can't believe people are still using gifs
[20:10] <fsphil> and calling them .jpg
[20:10] <eroomde> http://i.imgur.com/hY1fKdr.jpg
[20:10] <arko> hahahahaha
[20:10] <fsphil> lol
[20:11] <fsphil> before and after
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[20:12] <Hiena> eroomde: Ehehehehehehe...
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[20:14] <fsphil> I'm surprised RMS isn't a radio amateur. he's got the beard, and half a callsign already.
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[20:16] <eroomde> have warmed up a bit now
[20:16] <eroomde> guess i should head out again soon
[20:16] <eroomde> but it is so very cold
[20:17] <eroomde> maybe i could try one of those angrily driven yellow things u see everywhere
[20:17] <Laurenceb_> school bus?
[20:18] <eroomde> no they're on strike this week
[20:18] <eroomde> in nyc
[20:18] <eroomde> keep up with the news bro
[20:18] <Laurenceb_> ok homeboy
[20:20] <Laurenceb_> "one of these three is not like the other..."
[20:27] <arko> ugg meetings
[20:27] <arko> then school
[20:27] <arko> i hate this
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[21:05] <arko> eroomde: spotted tom at the cafeteria
[21:06] <eroomde> lol arko
[21:07] <arko> I should just lunch with him now and post "u jelly?"
[21:07] <arko> :P
[21:07] <eroomde> better email him that email
[21:07] <arko> Yes
[21:09] <arko> I should eat at this cafeteria more often
[21:09] <arko> I don't climb the hill much
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[21:10] <fsphil> hah
[21:11] <arko> This whole lab is built on a slope
[21:11] <eroomde> what's at the top?
[21:14] <arko> A big dish
[21:16] Action: arko waits for his pizza
[21:16] <arko> Eees so gut
[21:16] <arko> <3 jpl pizza
[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:17] <fsphil> out of this world eh?
[21:17] <arko> Heeyyoo
[21:18] <fsphil> I had pizza today. lovely stuff
[21:18] <arko> :)
[21:18] <fsphil> none of that onion nonsense
[21:18] <arko> Garlic and pepperoni
[21:18] <fsphil> mmm
[21:18] <fsphil> although garlic is a bit oniony
[21:22] <eroomde> um
[21:22] <eroomde> there appears to be a wood fired pizza place 1 block from me down 8th ave
[21:22] <eroomde> er
[21:22] <eroomde> BBL
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[21:37] <arko> Eroomde: jpl pizza is wood fire too
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[21:43] <Adam012> Hi all
[21:44] <fsphil> howdy Adam012
[21:44] <Adam012> Hi fsphil!
[21:45] <Adam012> We're prepping for our first test flight in 1 1/2 weeks time. It feels like there are a lot of loose ends still to tie up.
[21:45] <fsphil> that's normal :)
[21:46] <fsphil> have you made a list?
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[21:46] <Adam012> I think the flight computer code is done, it works on the ground and says all the right things but I'm really hoping it'll work just as well in the air.
[21:47] <Adam012> That's what the test flight is for - navigation check!
[21:47] <fsphil> a trick sometimes done is to feed it fake GPS data
[21:47] <Adam012> How? Do you send it over the serial as if it was from the GPS?
[21:47] <fsphil> yep
[21:47] <Adam012> Right, I'd need to edit the program a little for that to work.
[21:48] <fsphil> your PC pretends to be a GPS receiver, playing back data from a predicted flight
[21:48] <fsphil> or even a previous real flight
[21:48] <fsphil> on mine I made an array of coordinates and altitudes, built into the program
[21:48] <fsphil> converted a CSV prediction to a C array basically
[21:48] <Adam012> Hmmm, I'm sure I saw some sample data on UKHAS somewhere...don't suppose you have a link?
[21:49] <fsphil> !hello, computer?
[21:49] <fsphil> sigh
[21:49] <fsphil> http://ukhas.org.uk/code:emulator
[21:50] <fsphil> that uses a KML file
[21:51] <Adam012> Got it, our flight computer uses UBX polling commands but I can rewrite it to check the conversions will handle the NMEA strings correctly.
[21:52] <Adam012> What did you use to make the adaptor to fill your balloon?
[21:53] <fsphil> most people use a bit of PVC pipe
[21:53] <fsphil> I'm a bit cheeky, just use garden hose pipe from the regulator straight into the balloon neck
[21:54] <fsphil> I wouldn't recommend this. it's difficult to measure neck lift
[21:54] <fsphil> and a bit easy for the balloon to slip off if you've got a lot of lift
[21:56] <Adam012> But the diameter of the Hwoyee balloons we plan on using is 8.3cm how on earth do you attach it to a garden hose without losing a lot of gas?
[21:56] <fsphil> I fold it around itself
[21:57] <fsphil> secure with cable ties
[21:58] <Adam012> Do you just push the hose onto the balloon adaptor and then attach it with zip ties?
[21:58] <fsphil> duct tape on that end
[21:59] <fsphil> although the hose we have fits tightly onto it anyway
[21:59] <fsphil> the tape is just to secure it
[21:59] <fsphil> rather than seal it
[21:59] <Adam012> Really? Highly pressurised gas and duct tape?
[21:59] <fsphil> the regulator keeps the pressure low
[22:00] <Adam012> I was looking into getting a 5/8" to metric adaptor then using some sort of flexible waste disposal pipe through to a wider diameter pipe but none of the plumbing shops stock 5/8" to metric parts.
[22:01] <Adam012> I also forgot to ask BOC if it was 5/8" BSP or BST.
[22:02] <fsphil> you're not plugging straight into the tank are you?
[22:02] <Adam012> BSPP
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[22:02] <Adam012> I thought the regulator had a 5/8" fitting?
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[22:03] <fsphil> the tanks own regualtor is there for safety
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[22:03] <fsphil> you'll need a balloon filler
[22:04] <fsphil> this is what I have: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41NRleV3Z2L._SL500_SS500_.jpg
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[22:04] <Adam012> I know, the idea of an unregulated tank is terrifying. I thought the adaptor side of the regulator was 5/8".
[22:04] <fsphil> I'm not sure. but I'd suggest you get the above
[22:04] <fsphil> or something similar
[22:04] <Adam012> Looks like the best thing is just to get a tank in now and take a look at the fitting for myself.
[22:05] <fsphil> BOC will provide you with one
[22:05] <Adam012> We're ordering from a BOC reseller near Walsall. Do they usually supply a regulator?
[22:05] <fsphil> some do. mine didn't
[22:05] <fsphil> I got one of ebay in the end for handyness
[22:06] <fsphil> http://www.boconline.co.uk/en/products-and-supply/balloon-gas-and-equipment/balloon-filling-equipment/balloon-filling-equipment.html
[22:06] <fsphil> this will be much safer, and easier to interface with
[22:08] <Adam012> Universal with guage?
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[22:08] <Adam012> Gauge - spelling is 'interesting' tonight
[22:09] <fsphil> the gauge is handy
[22:09] <fsphil> but not essential
[22:10] <Adam012> Would you recommend the universal or latex filling kit?
[22:10] <fsphil> the latex one looks a bit more hose-pipe friendly
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[22:12] <Adam012> I don't think I'm confident enough for the 'hosepipe method' I can just see a sudden ripping of duct tape and the balloon hurtling around the field before the payload can even be attached :D
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[22:12] <fsphil> I only duct tape the cylinder end
[22:12] <fsphil> I alway tie the balloon to something heavy
[22:12] <fsphil> (usually the cylinder :)
[22:14] <fsphil> you'll need someone holding the regulator anyway, it needs to be pushed to activate
[22:15] <Adam012> We've ordered a box and lid combo from Ferribox but I was wondering what glue and tape people use with their boxes? Will any Duct tape do the job or do people use the reinforced type?
[22:15] <fsphil> suspect any will do. I've used stuff from Homebase and Gaffer-Tape
[22:16] <fsphil> I like the gaffer stuff mostly because of the colour. Got some florescent yellow and orange
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[22:18] <fsphil> WHere abouts are you launching from?
[22:19] <Adam012> We're launching from the school field at Queen Mary's Grammar School, Walsall provided we get the all clear from the CAA
[22:20] <Adam012> They have said we may only receive an answer two days before the launch which means if we get refused we'll have to find a new launch site and then it'll take 28 days to seek permission again. It's not ideal.
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[22:21] <fsphil> urg
[22:21] <fsphil> little about the CAA is ideal :)
[22:21] <fsphil> but those are the rules
[22:22] <fsphil> are you flying a radio tracker? you're in a pretty good spot, should be a fair few people who can receive
[22:23] <Adam012> We're flying a radio tracker (our first!), a smartphone as back up and a budget Canon A530 with CHDK script (although we haven't worked out how to turn off the LCD yet). I'm also toying with the idea of a few flashing LEDs and a 5V piezo screamer to help us find it.
[22:24] <fsphil> Upu discovered a trick of putting a bit of plastic into the AV socket, I think it was that
[22:25] <fsphil> it turns the LCD off
[22:25] <Upu> inside of a bic pen
[22:25] <Upu> fits nicely
[22:25] <fsphil> I couldn't think of it's name
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[22:26] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:26] <Lunar_Lander> my powershot A490 ran some 9 hours with two new lithiums and the screen turned off
[22:26] <fsphil> I did manage to disable the LCD in software, but it was iffy
[22:27] <fsphil> would sometimes turn back on
[22:27] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[22:28] <Adam012> Right, being a teacher I have a few bic pens knocking around. Thanks for the heads up about the soft off for the screen. We can stop pursuing that if there is a better 'hardware' fix.
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[22:32] <Adam012> How do people attach the payload box to the parachute. We we looking at drilling four holes and then tying the lines of the parachute on the other side of the lid, then sealing the box with duct tape.
[22:32] <Upu> I run the cord round the bottom of the box and hold in place with duct tape
[22:32] <Upu> when I used duct tape that is
[22:33] <daveake> On my latest I ran the cord through the joins between the sheets of foam
[22:34] <daveake> So no tape and its invisible
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[22:37] <Upu> whatever is strong
[22:37] <Upu> its gets violent up there
[22:44] <Adam012> What glue would you recommend for use with closed cell polystyrene?
[22:47] <nayr> Gorilla Glue
[22:47] <Upu> Uhu Por
[22:47] <nayr> White
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[22:48] <Laurenceb_> white glue is readily available
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[22:49] <Adam012> What is white glue? Gorilla Glue I have heard of but doesn't it dissolve polystyrene?
[22:49] <Laurenceb_> if you know what i mean...
[22:51] <Adam012> Ugh...shudder.
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[22:58] <Upu> Use Uhu Por http://www.uhu.com/en/products/plastic-and-model-building-adhesives/detail/uhu-por-1.html?cHash=0add8ea96cd7230fdd0da111a6ffeabb
[22:58] <Upu> designed for it
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[22:58] <Upu> lasted 18 hours in the North Sea with no detrimental effects
[23:00] <Adam012> Thanks for the advice!
[23:04] <griffonbot> Received email: Philip Crump "Re: [UKHAS] HABrotate - Automatic Flight tracking with PstRotator"
[23:05] <Adam012> Right, to bed before work tomorrow. Thank you to everyone for your advice and night all.
[23:05] <fsphil> nite!
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