highaltitude.log.20130122

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[00:35] <arko> eroomde: nice, yeah steak rocks, and 15-20% tip is kinda expected
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[01:23] <eroomde> arko: yo
[01:23] <eroomde> yeah it's like uk + 10%
[01:23] <eroomde> crap service uk = no tip
[01:23] <eroomde> crap service US = 10% tip
[01:24] <eroomde> fine service uk = 10%
[01:24] <eroomde> fine service us = 20%
[01:24] <eroomde> waitress explaining to you about her fiance's batchelor party arrangement and the question of strippers or not, 25%
[01:25] <eroomde> being popositioned by the waitress and so deciding to leave early and call it a night at 8.30pm, priceless
[01:25] <arko> hahaha
[01:25] <arko> thats awesome
[01:25] <arko> btw, my friend who was in ny a few weeks ago recommends Hagi
[01:26] <arko> he said it's amazing
[01:26] <eroomde> googling
[01:26] <arko> if you like japanese food
[01:26] <eroomde> that's like a 4min walk from me
[01:26] <eroomde> will give it a go tomorrow
[01:27] <arko> hah nice
[01:27] <arko> the hostile he recommends is called "Urban Oasis"
[01:27] <arko> suppose to be a great deal
[01:27] <arko> might be too late now :P
[01:28] <eroomde> hostile?
[01:29] <Zuph> Doesn't sound like a pleasant place to stay.
[01:30] <arko> hahahah
[01:30] <arko> wow
[01:30] <arko> this wine is good
[01:30] <arko> hostel
[01:30] <arko> :P
[01:31] <eroomde> ah yes too late
[01:31] <eroomde> i'm helping allow paris hilton continue her life of not doing anything
[01:31] <arko> lol
[01:31] <arko> very legit
[01:34] <arko> i just finished spray painting the first layer for my drone
[01:34] <arko> going with military gray
[01:34] <eroomde> one of my beers at this place was 9.5%
[01:34] <eroomde> i'm feeling it
[01:34] <arko> then applying the "Stark Industries" logo on it
[01:34] <arko> oh yeah, anything above 8% usually
[01:34] <Zuph> Sounds like a solid choice
[01:34] <arko> what beer?
[01:34] <arko> grey*
[01:35] <eroomde> something about double dip
[01:35] <arko> ah
[01:35] <eroomde> from chicago
[01:35] <arko> vOv
[01:35] <eroomde> also about 1/3 of thier stuff was from the UK
[01:35] <eroomde> and i was trated like a prophet from the motherland
[01:35] <eroomde> treated*
[01:35] <arko> lol
[01:36] <eroomde> but yeah, v serious beer place
[01:36] <arko> accent
[01:36] <arko> ???
[01:36] <arko> profit
[01:36] <Zuph> Where are you at right now, eroomde ?
[01:36] <eroomde> their seasonal menu, a small subset of their total range, had 8 ales on draught and 20 bottled
[01:36] <arko> ZUph: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en_sVVjWFKk
[01:36] <eroomde> Zuph: hell's kitchen
[01:36] <eroomde> ny
[01:36] <arko> nice
[01:37] <Zuph> Very nice. Visit the intrepid?
[01:37] <eroomde> yep today
[01:37] <eroomde> enterprise damaged to sandy so closed off :(
[01:38] <eroomde> but sr71 cheered me up again
[01:38] <eroomde> flickr.com/eroomde for 5 arbitrary photos from today
[01:39] <Zuph> Shame. I was last there before they brought in the enterprise.
[01:39] <Zuph> Will be making a trip to DC when they open their shuttle exhibit, with any luck.
[01:40] <eroomde> cool
[01:40] <eroomde> at the smithsonian?
[01:40] <Zuph> Yep
[01:41] <eroomde> would like to visit
[01:41] <eroomde> had a tv crew from smitghsonian visit about 1wk ago
[01:41] <Zuph> I've never visited the Udvar-Hazy center, but the main museum is incredible.
[01:42] <eroomde> would like to visit verymuch
[01:43] <Zuph> heh, only a few hours by train south of you :-p
[01:43] <arko> smithsonian has the apollo 11 capsule and suits
[01:43] <arko> i would love to see one day
[01:44] <eroomde> hmmm
[01:44] <eroomde> washington - chaigo is an easy train ride
[01:45] <Zuph> heh
[01:45] <Zuph> Famous last words.
[01:45] <eroomde> chicago*
[01:45] <eroomde> and ny - washington is a direct train too
[01:45] <eroomde> i could visit!
[01:46] <Zuph> Take a plane. DC and Chicago are lucky enough to have trains running to the airport.
[01:46] <eroomde> no
[01:46] <eroomde> boring
[01:47] <eroomde> i like slow travel
[01:47] <eroomde> i hate planes
[01:47] <eroomde> too hermetic. like being teleported
[01:47] <eroomde> you dont get to see the world slowly change
[01:47] <Zuph> In that case, I can assure you that the train between DC and Chicago will be slow.
[01:47] <eroomde> i am doing chicago to SF on the train too
[01:48] <Zuph> I would like to do that trip someday.
[01:48] <eroomde> it's 18hrs
[01:48] <eroomde> dc chicago
[01:48] <eroomde> that's a meaty novel :)
[01:50] <Zuph> On time 62% of the time :-p
[01:50] <eroomde> also
[01:50] <eroomde> i wish neither to have a bath or fall asleep
[01:50] <Zuph> They took the average delay off their on-time performance page, I see.
[01:50] <eroomde> i wish to have a piss
[01:51] <eroomde> so why do i get corrected when i ask for directions to the toilet?
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[05:12] <arko> oh Hilary Hahn, you can violin like no other
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[06:31] <arko> anyone want an ingress invite?
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[07:37] <nosebleedkt> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/775156_579635398717175_530080999_o.jpg
[07:37] <nosebleedkt> my new systems :)
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[08:46] Action: jcoxon is making progress with his tax return...
[08:47] <fsphil> that sounds like immense fun
[08:48] <daveake> I wish some of my taxes could be returned
[08:49] <jcoxon> seem to be missing on document
[08:49] <jcoxon> so going to have fun trying to get the info from payroll
[08:49] <number10> I phoned them up, and said its the same every year PAYE so why send me a form - so now they dont
[08:50] <jcoxon> the problem is i change job every year
[08:50] <jcoxon> mid way through the tax year
[08:51] <daveake> Looking better ... http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=0b44f1b2cc337c62391782c5778be3167ff379d7
[08:51] <number10> its 180 the opposite on saturday nearly
[08:51] <fsphil> Grafham water
[08:52] <fsphil> there's a lot of lakes around there
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[08:52] <number10> -9 degrees around cambridge this morning - probably will start to freeze
[08:53] <daveake> Well 90 .. Sat is SE into the channel
[08:53] <daveake> Landing on a frozen lake .. sounds like fun :p
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[08:58] <fsphil> make sure there's someone lightweight on your team
[08:58] <daveake> fail
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[09:25] <gonzo__> add a small hovercraft to the HAB essencials kit
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[09:27] <daveake> hmm ... http://www.burnham-on-sea.com/barb/rescue5a.jpg
[09:32] <griffonbot> Received email: Oliver De Peyer "Re: [UKHAS] Warwick University satellite project - weather balloon launch"
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[09:37] <junderwood> Helioss / Vortex is still on track for a launch this morning. Guess between 10:30 and 11:30
[09:39] <griffonbot> Received email: chris hillcox "[UKHAS] Re: SPUTNIK-2 aka SP9UOB-4 launch, 27.01.2013 at 14:00 UTC"
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[09:53] <griffonbot> Received email: David Johnson "[UKHAS] Re: Warwick University satellite project - weather balloon launch"
[09:54] <griffonbot> Received email: Adam Greig "Re: [UKHAS] Re: SPUTNIK-2 aka SP9UOB-4 launch, 27.01.2013 at 14:00 UTC"
[09:57] <griffonbot> Received email: Anthony Stirk "[UKHAS] Sarantel SL1252/SL1202 Information"
[09:57] <griffonbot> Received email: chris hillcox "Re: [UKHAS] Warwick University satellite project - weather balloon launch"
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[10:30] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] Warwick University satellite project - weather balloon launch"
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[10:37] <helioss_chase> Vortex launch at 10:45
[10:38] <fsphil> good luck!
[10:39] <helioss_chase> ta
[10:40] <gonzo__> any preference as to which tracker we focus on?
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[10:46] <lz1dev> vortex and helios on the map
[10:46] <lz1dev> so many temperature readings
[10:46] <helioss_chase> and it's away
[10:46] <mattbrejza> up
[10:46] <mattbrejza> im gonna remove KT and SP
[10:47] <mattbrejza> oh lol already gone
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[10:47] <GMT> ... and decoding, and uploading
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[10:51] <UpuWork> thats efficient
[10:51] <navrac_work> getting partials from vortex
[10:52] <GMT> will you actually need a chase-car, looks like it will go straight-up, and come back down again very close...
[10:52] <daveake> They're going to give ISH a bad name
[10:52] <helioss_chase> Good morning
[10:53] <Vortex-Chase_> Balloon away
[10:53] <daveake> yeah we noticed :)
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[10:55] <navrac_work> cant decode helios yet
[10:55] <helioss_chase> receiving helioss fine, but I'm right below it
[11:00] <lz1dev> so many...
[11:00] <navrac_work> i had the filter bandwidth too narrow and hadnt noticed
[11:00] <x-f> four payloads?
[11:01] <helioss_chase> 2 payloads
[11:01] <lz1dev> for now *grin*
[11:01] <helioss_chase> 2 radios per number
[11:01] <helioss_chase> per payload
[11:01] <x-f> backups for backups? :)
[11:02] <helioss_chase> Vortex control is off air.
[11:02] <helioss_chase> for 25 minutes
[11:02] <helioss_chase> or so, heading to mission control.
[11:02] <helioss_chase> Not quite as efficient hand-over as NASA
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[11:05] <gonzo__> vortex3 is drifting in freq badly. Having probs keeping it tuned
[11:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> So is Helios
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[11:06] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Lost the Signallink-FT817 lead...
[11:06] <LazyLeopard> Must be around somewhere...
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[11:07] <daveake> I'm on 3 and 4. Both are drifting quite quickly
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[11:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> The modulation seems rather odd on Helioss, some of it is copyable but the stability within the bandwidth is very poor
[11:09] <daveake> 4 just died completely
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[11:10] <fsphil> did the signal appear noisy before it died?
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[11:10] <daveake> No seemed OK just stopped
[11:11] <mattbrejza> 1 down, 3 remain
[11:11] <fsphil> the cold might have got it
[11:11] <daveake> I do see a carrier now sometimes. Weaker. Might be something else
[11:11] <Vortex-Chase_> 4dead then?
[11:11] <daveake> Yep
[11:11] <daveake> Just stopped
[11:11] <fsphil> Vortex-Chase_: is the program setup to reset the rfm22b periodically?
[11:11] <daveake> Stopped mid-sentence:
[11:11] <daveake> http://imgur.com/SXhakaY
[11:12] <daveake> bugger
[11:12] <daveake> $$$$$VObTEX4,202,31:08:41,51.7814808,-1.0594585,8026,6,3,2828*23AA
[11:12] <daveake> $$$$$VORTEX4,203,11:08:53,51.7838808,-1.056xw{|\89y{W_>g
[11:12] <fsphil> not like storm then
[11:12] <fsphil> interesting
[11:14] <gonzo_mob> vortex 3 now driftong up on freq
[11:15] <GMT> is V4 coming back to life?
[11:15] <daveake> Dunno I'm not on that freq now
[11:16] <GMT> Im getting rtty on SDR, but drifting
[11:16] <daveake> It may well do as it warms up
[11:16] <daveake> Yeah it was drifting before too
[11:16] <navrac_work> interesting dl-fldigi bug - if you initialise rigcat it puts the modem into reverse so you have to click rev on and off again to get it to decode again
[11:16] <daveake> yeah it's back on again
[11:17] <daveake> 4 running fine now decoding again
[11:17] <UpuWork> whats VORTEX3 on ?
[11:17] Action: LazyLeopard fears the missing lead may be 4000 miles away...
[11:17] <daveake> 434.218
[11:18] <GMT> .223 as per docs, but I get it at about .219
[11:18] <daveake> What's 1kHz between friends?
[11:18] <Vortex-Chase_> It was on 221 on the ground
[11:18] <Vortex-Chase_> so 219 sounds right
[11:18] <UpuWork> be interested to know how that was insulated
[11:18] <daveake> drift-a-rama since then
[11:20] <fsphil> oh it came back
[11:20] <fsphil> guess there might be reset code in there
[11:21] <fsphil> anyone know?
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[11:21] <UpuWork> which one VORTEX4 ?
[11:22] <fsphil> yea
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[11:29] <daveake> I have to go out soon, but of Vortex4 stops again which it may well do during descent, could someone with an SDR go searching for it? I suspect it's changing frequency (maybe by 100kHz or so) rather than stopping.
[11:29] <navrac_work> is it just me or are the colours wrong on spacenear?
[11:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> They keep overlaying each other
[11:30] <navrac_work> its vortex4 which is showing as yellow on the key, but red on the track
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[11:31] <junderwood_M0JCU> Answer to an earlier question. Both Vortex3 and Vortex4 are sandwiched between two 1" layers of Celotex
[11:32] <Upu_M0UPU> seem to be suffering temperature drifts
[11:32] <Upu_M0UPU> bad ones
[11:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ballon is Yellow for me on V4
[11:32] <navrac_work> helioss was drifty - but ok now
[11:32] <daveake> 3/4 both stable now
[11:32] <navrac_work> its just the track that comes up the wrong colour for me
[11:33] <lz1dev> yeh, there is a bug in the code
[11:33] <GMT> are the Chase cars on here?
[11:33] <Vortex-Chase_> yeah
[11:34] <GMT> you may wanna pull over somewhere and wait a while, you're well ahead of them
[11:34] <junderwood_M0JCU> just about to run some predictions
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[11:36] <junderwood_M0JCU> current vortex prediction is South of A43 near Syresham
[11:36] <GMT> hi 'OGX, balloon is up and being tracked
[11:36] <junderwood_M0JCU> a few miles W of Silverstone circuit
[11:37] <CHRISG7OGX> tks gmt had to go out and missed launch left gear on but was slightly off now ok
[11:37] <junderwood_M0JCU> HelioSS landing spot is just south of Daventry ring road
[11:37] <CHRISG7OGX> is it snowing up there? missing quite a few packets
[11:38] <GMT> which payload u decoding?
[11:38] <junderwood_M0JCU> 60,000 ft is a little high for snow
[11:38] <CHRISG7OGX> vortex1
[11:38] <CHRISG7OGX> is there a particular one that we have been asked to look for?
[11:38] <Vortex-Chase_> we have very clear packets on vortex main
[11:39] <junderwood_M0JCU> CHRISG7OGX, please just pick any payload which looks lonely
[11:39] <GMT> I'm getting good decodes on VORTEX on .077
[11:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> V3 is good in Sussex as well as V, helioss is very poor copy
[11:39] <CHRISG7OGX> good that's ok then. some frequency wavering here
[11:39] <junderwood_M0JCU> HelioSS doesn't have many friends at the moment!
[11:39] <junderwood_M0JCU> (and is a pig to decode)
[11:40] <CHRISG7OGX> lol ok will do sort of sidle up and ask if she wants a drink!
[11:40] <helioss_chase> every so often it gets drowned by white noise
[11:40] <Geoff-G8DHE> I think shes had too many already!
[11:42] <CHRISG7OGX> faster shorter tx? 434.645?
[11:42] <Vortex-Chase_> chasers are still on target?
[11:42] <navrac_work> 300baud
[11:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> All the Vortex signals are good in Sussex
[11:43] <junderwood_M0JCU> Vortex-Chase_, you will probaby have to back-track to Syresham but your current position is good for the time being
[11:43] <junderwood_M0JCU> helioss_chase, you should press on to Daventry
[11:44] <helioss_chase> doing so - can you update the map
[11:44] <junderwood_M0JCU> live predictor should now be correct for Vortex - thanks Upu
[11:44] <junderwood_M0JCU> helioss_chase, will do
[11:44] <CHRISG7OGX> nav rac work tks for baud rate can see her at the bar now what is shift?
[11:46] <junderwood_M0JCU> helioss_chase, Vortex-Chase_ map updated
[11:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.g8dhe.net/Helioss_signal.jpg
[11:47] <navrac_work> i'm using 412hz shift - with the receive bandwidth set to 329
[11:49] <CHRISG7OGX> i have shift 350 freq 434.645 dirty girl compared to vortex
[11:49] <Upu_M0UPU> so 25k they should part ways
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[11:50] <junderwood_M0JCU> 25km + 30 seconds
[11:50] <DrLuke> "Mechanically the mounting is alot more solid" http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TRIo4br3I/AAAAAAAACv4/Zh7_GcMlRKo/s400/ALOT.png
[11:50] <junderwood_M0JCU> fingers crossed
[11:50] <Upu_M0UPU> ok
[11:50] <DrLuke> Couldn't resist :)
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.g8dhe.net/Helioss_signal_2.jpg
[11:50] Action: Upu_M0UPU pokes DrLuke
[11:51] <Upu_M0UPU> its 300 baud GeekShadow
[11:51] <Upu_M0UPU> err Geoff-G8DHE
[11:51] <Upu_M0UPU> get it more central
[11:51] <junderwood_M0JCU> Is anyone else stuggling on vortex or is just because I'm directly underneath?
[11:51] <cuddykid> moment of truth approaching :D
[11:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Vortex is solid for me
[11:52] <junderwood_M0JCU> Pyro status should go to 0 when fired
[11:52] <junderwood_M0JCU> (and the altitude should start to reduce :)
[11:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.g8dhe.net/vortex_1.jpg
[11:52] <navrac_work> oops - had the rig control of one copy of fldigi controlling the frequency of the other ones receiver. Mad for some interesting tuning attempts
[11:53] <junderwood_M0JCU> vortex4 signal should improve after release
[11:53] <navrac_work> v4 is quite strong, just a tad drifty
[11:53] <navrac_work> release time?
[11:54] <cuddykid> hm
[11:54] <cuddykid> altitude has jumped
[11:54] <Upu_M0UPU> seperated ?
[11:54] <Vortex-Chase_> reset?
[11:54] <x-f> yep
[11:54] <Upu_M0UPU> there you go
[11:54] <CHRISG7OGX> change ib freq here
[11:54] <griffonbot> Received email: Nicole Blake "Re: [UKHAS] Warwick University satellite project - weather balloon launch"
[11:55] <cuddykid> yay :)
[11:55] <junderwood_M0JCU> going down
[11:55] <junderwood_M0JCU> Phew
[11:55] <griffonbot> Received email: Nicole Blake "Re: [UKHAS] Warwick University satellite project - weather balloon launch"
[11:55] <griffonbot> Received email: chris hillcox "[UKHAS] Re: SPUTNIK-2 aka SP9UOB-4 launch, 27.01.2013 at 14:00 UTC"
[11:55] <fsphil> someone summon ALOT?
[11:55] <x-f> pyro status didn't change tho
[11:55] <CHRISG7OGX> helioss quite hard to track now
[11:55] <Upu_M0UPU> lol @ ascent rate on helios
[11:55] <x-f> shooting up
[11:55] <junderwood_M0JCU> bridgewire may still be in place. It sometimes happend
[11:55] <cuddykid> somehow vortex reach 26538 before coming down :P
[11:56] <gonzo__> 3 just went very wobbly
[11:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> V rapid fading
[11:56] <navrac_work> 4 is wobbly too
[11:56] <junderwood_M0JCU> 3 is on Helioss - it's going up a bit quickly at the moment
[11:56] <fsphil> what's up with the dip in VORTEX's altitude
[11:57] <cuddykid> and the spike
[11:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> V is steady again
[11:57] <CHRISG7OGX> helioss she's all over the place call a cab!
[11:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> Farme count on V restarted as well
[11:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> Frame
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[11:58] <junderwood_M0JCU> firing the pyro on Vortex exhausted it
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[11:59] <junderwood_M0JCU> Vortex-Chase_, map update
[11:59] <junderwood_M0JCU> :(
[12:02] <lz1dev> pyro status is still 1
[12:02] <junderwood_M0JCU> pyros sometimes do that
[12:02] <junderwood_M0JCU> it just means the bridgewire is intact
[12:03] <x-f> what balloon did you use?
[12:03] <junderwood_M0JCU> Hywoyeeee 1600g
[12:03] <junderwood_M0JCU> (It's still there)
[12:04] <junderwood_M0JCU> Landing time prediction for Vortex is 12:52
[12:05] <helioss_chase> Our chase car GPS has gone flake.
[12:05] <helioss_chase> Our chase car GPS has gone flaky
[12:05] <helioss_chase> I think the phone's overheating...
[12:05] <daveake> hold it outside :)
[12:06] <helioss_chase> already doing so.
[12:07] <daveake> ok have to go. Good luck with the recoveries
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[12:08] <fsphil> that's a lot of payloads
[12:08] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss at 33km. Can't last much longer
[12:08] <junderwood_M0JCU> I certainly don't think it will float
[12:08] <CHRISG7OGX> helioss sigs here have short breaks/qsb during tx
[12:09] <navrac_work> what shift/bandwidth are people using for helios?
[12:10] <junderwood_M0JCU> about 330
[12:10] <CHRISG7OGX> custom shift 350 bandwidth 360
[12:10] <junderwood_M0JCU> 34466
[12:10] <junderwood_M0JCU> 34561
[12:10] <junderwood_M0JCU> 34603
[12:11] <x-f> and that's it
[12:11] <junderwood_M0JCU> I think Helioss is on its way down
[12:11] <helioss_chase> Updated landing point ?::)
[12:11] <navrac_work> yep it looks like it
[12:11] <GMT> VORTEX3 just showed 34593
[12:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Wow just about to ring Gas board as smell of gas, check BBC news first ....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21141351
[12:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> someone released a lot in France!
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[12:13] <lz1dev> must be those damn baguettes!!
[12:14] <junderwood_M0JCU> helioss_chase, head for Byfield. Map update coming
[12:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> There's an idea for tracking balloons fill them with Merctan, you would be able to sniff your way to the landing :-)
[12:14] <helioss_chase> just wiping the windshield.
[12:15] <CHRISG7OGX> helioss stronger sigs now
[12:15] <CHRISG7OGX> i smell horses cooking!
[12:16] <CHRISG7OGX> vortex 3 on the way down?
[12:16] <junderwood_M0JCU> everything on the way now
[12:17] <CHRISG7OGX> LOL i said to her switch to soft drinks but, no
[12:19] <fsphil> funny there's a bad smell here atm, but we're too far away for it to be that
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[12:19] <junderwood_M0JCU> helioss_chase, another map update
[12:19] <helioss_chase> ok, on ther road to badby
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[12:20] <junderwood_M0JCU> helioss_chase, landing estimate 13:53
[12:20] <junderwood_M0JCU> not sure I believe it, though
[12:22] <x-f> looks like Vortex/Vortex4 will have a very gentle touchdown
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[12:24] <CHRISG7OGX> helioss quite large freq drift
[12:24] <x-f> descent rate for HelioSS/Vortex3 is very low as well
[12:24] <x-f> are they all under a big chute?
[12:24] <GMT> parachute doing its job properly
[12:25] <CHRISG7OGX> sigs weakening
[12:25] <LazyLeopard> Yeah, its initial descent has been noticably less dramatic than is usual...
[12:26] Nick change: LazyLeopard -> LazyL_M0LEP
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[12:29] <GMT> V3 sigs now coming in nicely
[12:30] <fsphil> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21142865
[12:32] <Upu_M0UPU> if you don't get directly under VORTEX and catch it I'm confiscating your hab points
[12:34] <Vortex_Chase> we lack the sunroof
[12:34] <fsphil> get out and use your feet :)
[12:34] <CHRISG7OGX> looking forward to pix?
[12:35] <CHRISG7OGX> health and safety is optional
[12:35] <lz1dev> http://i.imgur.com/u0vxLPX.png
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[12:35] <Upu_M0UPU> whats that lz1dev ?
[12:35] <Upu_M0UPU> predictions?
[12:36] <lz1dev> yeh
[12:36] <lz1dev> a bug, not clearing previous landing prediction
[12:36] <lz1dev> so they stack up
[12:36] <fsphil> what's neat is that the latest prediction is an average of the previous ones
[12:36] <lz1dev> it seems so
[12:37] <junderwood_M0JCU> Vortex_Chase, big prediction update. It's started to glide
[12:38] <Laurenceb> wait what is this?
[12:38] <fsphil> HELIOSS is being chilled
[12:39] <Laurenceb> huge chute?
[12:39] <GMT> lz1dev: I still can't use your tracker prog on my desktop - no wheel on my mouse; I can't zoom-in/out
[12:39] <lz1dev> GMT: haha :)
[12:39] <lz1dev> its being fixed soon
[12:39] <lz1dev> ™
[12:40] <fsphil> does zoom and scrolling work on touch screens yet?
[12:40] <GMT> V3 drifting down in freq
[12:40] <x-f> GMT, can't you use the zoom controls (upper left corner)?
[12:40] <lz1dev> x-f: he is not talking about spacenear.us
[12:40] <x-f> i know
[12:40] <x-f> ah, nevermind
[12:41] <x-f> you had them on your screenprint
[12:41] <lz1dev> yes, but thats dev version
[12:41] <x-f> yeah, figured
[12:42] <junderwood_M0JCU> Vortex_Chase, another update
[12:42] <griffonbot> Received email: Nicole Blake "Re: [UKHAS] Warwick University satellite project - weather balloon launch"
[12:42] <griffonbot> Received email: Nicole Blake "[UKHAS] Re: Warwick University satellite project - weather balloon launch"
[12:42] <griffonbot> Received email: chris hillcox "Re: [UKHAS] Warwick University satellite project - weather balloon launch"
[12:42] <fsphil> satellite image looks fair
[12:43] <fsphil> just the odd patch of trees
[12:44] <CHRISG7OGX> heliosss stopped
[12:44] <GMT> V3 now down on .216
[12:44] <CHRISG7OGX> time of helioss stop 1244
[12:45] <junderwood_M0JCU> CHRISG7OGX, thanks
[12:45] <fsphil> Turweston Aerodrome is about to get a flyover
[12:46] <GMT> V3 now drifting up in freq - wish it would make up its mind
[12:47] <navrac_work> helioss is working fine here - drifting like b*ggery nut working
[12:47] <junderwood_M0JCU> better isulation next time
[12:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> Vortex now dropping out in Sussex
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[12:48] <Helioss_chase> OK, it looks like we've found the internet again
[12:48] <navrac_work> yep helios is drifting at 12Hz/second
[12:50] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, big map change
[12:51] <mattbrejza> Helioss_chase: due to land just south of Sulgrave
[12:51] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, you may be better listening for Vortex3
[12:51] <junderwood_M0JCU> mattbrejza, my bet is on Chipping Warden
[12:51] <GMT> V3 is 'frequency agile"
[12:51] <Helioss_chase> Good timing on that
[12:51] <Helioss_chase> Strong signal on Helioss
[12:52] <mattbrejza> thers a helpful little road between just north of chipping warden and culworth which might be useful to get near/on
[12:52] <Helioss_chase> Is our marker still south of badby?
[12:53] <mattbrejza> Helioss_chase: your car is updating
[12:53] <CHRISG7OGX> can still receive #2060 but all are red
[12:54] <CHRISG7OGX> #2082
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[12:54] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, closer to Chipping Warden
[12:55] <Laurenceb> snowy out there?
[12:55] <x-f> they both might land on the same time actually
[12:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Might be in sight of each other!
[12:56] <Laurenceb> need to head to wood by blakesley
[12:57] <Helioss_chase> Roads ar OK so far
[12:58] <junderwood_M0JCU> Vortex_Chase, small update. Still close to Weston
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[13:00] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, coming down quicker than predicted. Keep going to Banbury
[13:00] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, map update
[13:01] <Helioss_chase> Heading for wardlington - 'll tell you when I see the map
[13:02] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, Middleton Cheney would be better
[13:02] <mattbrejza> were running a bit low on listeners
[13:02] <Helioss_chase> Got the map update,heading for E of banbury
[13:02] <junderwood_M0JCU> Vortex_Chase, do you have the signal?
[13:02] <GMT> I'm still on V3, but I may loose it soon
[13:02] <Helioss_chase> Middleton cheney - agreed.
[13:03] <mattbrejza> im guessing they can decode but not see on a map where that is?
[13:03] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, are you receiving?
[13:03] <junderwood_M0JCU> mattbrejza, I'll tell you later
[13:03] <Helioss_chase> Yes
[13:03] <junderwood_M0JCU> Good. I will stick with Vortex to landing. But it will be close
[13:03] <Vortex_Chase> Yeah
[13:03] <Vortex_Chase> had it clear all trip
[13:04] <Vortex_Chase> we're hoping this route remains passable
[13:05] <Vortex_Chase> other wise we'll have a wide detour to the payload
[13:05] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, map update. Seems to be converging
[13:06] <Helioss_chase> My marker's still at middleton
[13:06] <junderwood_M0JCU> should be near Thenford
[13:07] <Laurenceb> should be able to see it
[13:07] <mattbrejza> im loosing helioss in the noise
[13:07] <Laurenceb> look up
[13:07] <mattbrejza> gone
[13:08] <GMT> loosing V3 in the noise, but elevation is 0!
[13:08] <junderwood_M0JCU> What is dial on V3?
[13:09] Nick change: Upu_M0UPU -> UpuWork
[13:10] <Helioss_chase> helios at 500m still loud and clear
[13:12] <junderwood_M0JCU> just got last string from helioss at 267m
[13:12] <Helioss_chase> and now we've lost it
[13:12] <junderwood_M0JCU> Both down. Thanks to all the listeners
[13:12] <Helioss_chase> Bettter than me, jcu
[13:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> Good flight and chase lads nicely done
[13:13] <Vortex_Chase> $$VORTEX,0276,13:09:14,52.1383,-1.1352,432,10,5.58, 3.7,95638,1,R*0a5f $$VORTEX,0277,13:09:30,52.1386,-1.1374,387,10,5.62, 3.9,96138,1,R*2b71 $$VORTEX,0278,13:09:46,52.1389,-1.1395,349,10,5.65, 4.0,96608,1,R*4c0f $$VORTEX,0279,13:10:02,52.1387,-1.1416,313,10,5.55, 4.2,97064,1,R*7812 $$VORTEX,0280,13:10:18,52.1384,-1.1432,277,10,5.65, 4.3,97509,1,R*1360
[13:14] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, your map is updated. Nice walk
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[13:15] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, you need to get a ground fix
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[13:17] <junderwood_M0JCU> Vortex_Chase, your map also updated
[13:18] <junderwood_M0JCU> Vortex_Chase, Helioss_chase please let me know if you get any ground decodes
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[13:18] <Helioss_chase> We can hear elioss - but no decodes
[13:19] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, it should be very close to your car marker
[13:20] <junderwood_M0JCU> mattbrejza, we are using a shared google map to coordinate the search cars.
[13:20] <junderwood_M0JCU> I just place a marker on the map and they go there.
[13:20] <junderwood_M0JCU> Power :)
[13:20] <mattbrejza> oh ok
[13:20] <mattbrejza> but you still need internet connection
[13:21] <ferra> junderwood_M0JCU hi John, from the data it looks everything was fine. correct?
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[13:21] <junderwood_M0JCU> They do. But google maps update much easier than web pages
[13:21] <junderwood_M0JCU> ferra, looks good. I think we had good transition to glide on Vortex as well
[13:22] <mattbrejza> ah suppose that way you dont have to wait for the tracker to download all the data
[13:22] <ferra> junderwood_M0JCU did you alaready recovered the paylods?
[13:22] <junderwood_M0JCU> mattbrejza, yes.
[13:22] <Helioss_chase> 2,00177,10,3,2.1,4.3,3.4,3.0,4.0,4.7,1.0,986.8*39D0 $$HELIOSS,2473,13:22:33,052.08321,-001.21843,00177,10,3,2.1,4.4,3.4,3.0,4.0,4.6,1.0,987.0*D031 $$HELIOSS,2474,13:02:37(05.08321,-001.21843,00179,10,3,2.1,4.4<1.4,3.0,4.1,
[13:22] <junderwood_M0JCU> ferra no
[13:22] <Helioss_chase> 2473 is good
[13:24] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss_chase, marker updated
[13:25] <ferra> junderwood_M0JCU Please let me know when it is done! Good luck!
[13:25] <junderwood_M0JCU> 70 m west of the road
[13:25] <junderwood_M0JCU> in a tree
[13:25] <junderwood_M0JCU> ferra, will do
[13:25] <Helioss_chase> Payload in sight.
[13:28] <x-f> ugh, less than 100 meters from powerline
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[13:33] <GMT> are they all on the ground by now?
[13:35] <sv9qct> @nosebleedkt_ Hello Kostas!
[13:35] <nosebleedkt_> hi
[13:35] <nosebleedkt_> who is this !
[13:35] <junderwood_M0JCU> Both payloads on the ground and coordinates received from both on the ground
[13:36] Nick change: soafee-chan -> spacekitteh
[13:36] <junderwood_M0JCU> Helioss / Vortex 3 has been spotted.
[13:36] <sv9qct> @nosebleedkt_ My name is Frank from Crete. Congats for your project in Greece!
[13:36] <junderwood_M0JCU> Vortex / Vortex4 is about a mile walk for the recovery team
[13:37] <nosebleedkt_> sv9qct, thank's !
[13:37] <nosebleedkt_> sv9qct, are you greek ?
[13:38] <sv9qct> @nosebleedkt_ Yes I am. I am interested in a similar project in Crete and I have some questions of course :)
[13:38] <junderwood_M0JCU> HelioSS recovered
[13:38] <nosebleedkt_> sv9qct, you came in the right place then :D
[13:39] <nosebleedkt_> btw, region around crete from stratosphere would be awesome :)
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[13:39] <nosebleedkt_> Africa's coastline will be visible :)
[13:39] <GMT> I would think that a launch from Crete would be a sea landing!
[13:40] <sv9qct> @nosebleedkt_ Kosta poia einai h kalyterh ora na sou kano kapoies erothseis?? :)
[13:40] <nosebleedkt_> sv9qct, if you want talk in greek you can find me in facebook. Who told you to join here?
[13:41] <nosebleedkt_> have you seen my project on facebook actually?
[13:42] <sv9qct> @nosebleedkt_ I have done a lot of reading for months. Yes I have seen your project in facebook.
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[13:44] <sv9qct> @nosebleedkt_ I can see you are now building your own electronics. Very cool.
[13:45] <nosebleedkt_> sv9qct, yeah. homemade tronics are cool. Well, if you like chat in greek lets talk in facebook because here its not polite.
[13:46] <nosebleedkt_> and i dont have irc at home :(
[13:46] <nosebleedkt_> my ISP does something bad with IRC ports.
[13:46] <fsphil> have you tried SSL on port 7000?
[13:46] <sv9qct> @nosebleedkt_ Ok then.
[13:47] <nosebleedkt_> fsphil, xchat does not support ssl? :D
[13:47] <nosebleedkt_> sv9qct, in fb Im Kostas Tamateas
[13:48] Nick change: junderwood_M0JCU -> junderwood
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[13:50] <fsphil> it does nosebleedkt_
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[13:51] <nosebleedkt_> well maybe i should give it a try. because the last 6 months or more I cant join irc from home.
[13:51] <sv9qct> @nosebleedkt_ Ok. I did send a friend request.
[13:51] <nosebleedkt_> sv9qct, I accepted already
[13:51] <nosebleedkt_> :D
[13:52] <anerDev> hi guys ! =D
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[13:55] <nosebleedkt_> tonight another 3 teeth fixing in densist
[13:55] <nosebleedkt_> :D
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[15:31] <Laurenceb> http://media.tumblr.com/e41aacb99613f3515071452b1436817f/tumblr_inline_mg9j9aysUo1qctkcl.jpg
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[16:01] <arko> Morning
[16:05] <junderwood> Vortex and Helioss both recovered. Thanks to everyone who helped track today.
[16:05] <Randomskk> :D
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> :-)
[16:07] <jonsowman> nice one
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[16:10] <arko> Woo!!
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[18:23] <griffonbot> Received email: Tomasz Brol "Re: [UKHAS] Re: SPUTNIK-2 aka SP9UOB-4 launch, 27.01.2013 at 14:00 UTC"
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[18:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
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[19:31] <costyn> evening all
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[19:33] <costyn> I'm having some trouble with the pull-up/pull-down resistors on my arduino
[19:33] <costyn> http://pastebin.com/UPEsrwBV very simple sketch, but when I look at the serial output, it's alternating randomly between 0 and 1
[19:34] <chrisstubbs> costyn are you plannin on using the internal resistors?
[19:35] <chrisstubbs> I have used pinMode(0, INPUT_PULLUP); before to set the internal pull up resistors
[19:35] <chrisstubbs> then short the pin to ground to turn it on/off
[19:35] <costyn> chrisstubbs: well I thought writing LOW would pull it low, but it just disables the pull-up resistor
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[19:35] <costyn> chrisstubbs: I think I'll need to do that yes
[19:35] <chrisstubbs> I think there are a few ways of doing it, but that way seems to work for me
[19:36] <chrisstubbs> did on a MEGA644 at least
[19:36] <costyn> chrisstubbs: thansk, lemme test it
[19:36] <daveake> Yeah you need to write a HIGH to enable the pullup
[19:36] <bertrik_> does Serial.println work with an integer? I thought it is supposed to print a string
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[19:36] <costyn> so LOW doesn't make it a pull-down
[19:37] <costyn> bertrik_: seems to work ok
[19:37] <chrisstubbs> i dont think there is an internal pull down, i think its just pullup internally
[19:37] <costyn> chrisstubbs: makes sense
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[19:39] <costyn> chrisstubbs: nice that solved it :)
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[19:40] <chrisstubbs> Great :)
[19:41] <chrisstubbs> what are you building?
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[19:41] <costyn> chrisstubbs: have some internal variables which I increase and decrease with a rotary encoder, the 2 values are shown on a lcd screen and pressing the button alternates between the values
[19:42] <costyn> chrisstubbs: it's for a moving timelapse photography rig (variables are shutter delay and stepper motor speed)
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[19:43] <chrisstubbs> Nice!
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[19:54] <fsphil> very interesting
[19:55] <costyn> if all goes well, it should be
[19:55] <costyn> still some hurdles to cover
[19:59] <costyn> I was ready to love the Arduino micro, but geez the pin labels are really annoying
[19:59] <costyn> always having to look towards one of the end pins to see if the label is to the left or the right of the pin
[20:00] <fsphil> I'm not a big fan of arduino, but no doubt it's an important device. it's introduced a lot of people to electronics and programming
[20:01] <costyn> fsphil: very politically correct answer there
[20:01] <costyn> fsphil: just tell me you think its bollocks
[20:01] <mattbrejza> be glad it has pin functions written on it
[20:01] <fsphil> the arduino library on the other hand, is *******
[20:01] <jonsowman> costyn: is there are worse things
[20:01] <jonsowman> -is
[20:01] <mattbrejza> fsphil and I have to look at the datasheet to see wghat pin X does
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[20:03] <fsphil> I love how easy it is to develop for avr chips on linux
[20:03] <fsphil> wish arm was as simple
[20:03] <jonsowman> it's getting there
[20:03] <jonsowman> slooowly
[20:03] <mclane> try lpcxpresso
[20:03] Action: bertrik_ did arm before trying avr
[20:04] <jonsowman> but stm32s are the cool ones
[20:04] <mclane> they are not so bad
[20:05] <mclane> stm32s are not well supported in linux
[20:05] <fsphil> indeed
[20:05] <BrainDamage> huh?
[20:05] <fsphil> I've got a discovery F3 board here, it's annoying
[20:05] <BrainDamage> they work pretty decently here
[20:05] <mattbrejza> can you debug via st-link?
[20:05] <BrainDamage> yup
[20:05] <mclane> what are you using as development environment?
[20:05] <mclane> for stm32s?
[20:05] <jonsowman> I thought stm32s were pretty much the best supported in linux
[20:06] <mattbrejza> oh ok (did thin you could at one point)
[20:06] <BrainDamage> you can since 2 years or so
[20:06] <mclane> have a look at nxp
[20:06] <BrainDamage> and nowdays even openocd supports stlink
[20:06] <BrainDamage> but I prefer texane's stlink
[20:06] <fsphil> I must give it another go
[20:07] <fsphil> they're powerful little chips
[20:07] <mclane> they have a nice ide with everything which works out of the box
[20:07] <BrainDamage> https://github.com/texane/stlink
[20:07] <BrainDamage> use that tool to interface with the stlink
[20:07] <BrainDamage> you can both flash & debug
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[20:08] <BrainDamage> also, join ##stm32, it gets trolled by Laurenceb from time to time, but people are very helpful
[20:08] <mclane> I have a tracker running on arm
[20:09] <jonsowman> http://www.cusf.co.uk/wombat/
[20:09] <jonsowman> STM32F4
[20:09] <Laurenceb> trolls trolling trolls
[20:09] <jonsowman> hello Laurenceb
[20:09] <jonsowman> :P
[20:09] <fsphil> 192KB...mmmmmm
[20:09] <mclane> ublox, ntx, onewire and sdcard on lpc1227
[20:10] <mattbrejza> yea but i did that on a atmega328
[20:10] <mattbrejza> you probably arnt having ram issues though
[20:10] <BrainDamage> many stm32 are actually cheaper than atmega328 :p
[20:10] <mattbrejza> but then i am trying to save all the output to sd card
[20:10] <mclane> 128 k flash and 8 k RAM
[20:10] <BrainDamage> ( and way better specs )
[20:10] <mattbrejza> i know avrs are expenseive (like 4.50)
[20:11] <mattbrejza> and stm32s for a similar device lile £1
[20:11] <jonsowman> you're not wrong there BrainDamage
[20:11] <mattbrejza> i have a board with a stm32 on it that i have yet to make
[20:11] <mattbrejza> got side tracked by msp430 which are also a very good price
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[20:15] <costyn> I started with PICAXE, then went to Arduino, PICAXE BASIC just made me feel ill
[20:15] <jonsowman> wise
[20:19] <mattbrejza> lets play a fun game of getting usbasp drivers to work on 64bit w*
[20:19] <mattbrejza> w8
[20:20] <jonsowman> pretty sure that's single player
[20:20] <jonsowman> enjoy yourself
[20:21] <KT5TK_QRL> Just download w8 64bit source from somewhere on the web and compile your own driver ;)
[20:22] <mattbrejza> it is possible, but i seem to remember having to override windows dislike of unsigned drivers
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[20:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> Path plots of Vortex and Helioss to day http://360.g8dhe.net/Vortex%20-%20Helioss/Vortex-%20Helioss.html
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[20:41] <KT5TK_QRL> Geoff-G8DHE: Nice, just noticed that it can be rotated!
[20:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not sure if they are of any use really, but we have the technology!
[20:42] <Upu> evening
[20:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> and zoomed, although the compression is a bit high on the jpg's I used so not much to be gained :-(
[20:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> Eveing UpU
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[20:44] <KT5TK_QRL> At least you get a 3 dimensional impression on how the dimensions relate
[20:45] <griffonbot> Received email: Geoff Mather "Re: [UKHAS] Launch announcement - Tuesday 22nd January - Chalgrove"
[20:46] <chrisstubbs> Just made up a CAT cable for my FT-817 from an old nokia USB DKU-5 cable :)
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[20:48] <jcoxon> hey KT5TK_QRL
[20:50] <griffonbot> Received email: John Tanner "[UKHAS] New 'ickle Arduino"
[20:51] <KT5TK_QRL> jcoxon: what's up
[20:54] <jcoxon> see PM
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[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> mclane, spacenear works again
[21:38] <mclane> lets have a look tomorrow
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[22:00] <chrisstubbs> The BT HomeHub: designed with sadness in mind
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[22:15] <fsphil> -HomeHub
[22:16] <fsphil> -The
[22:16] <jonsowman> I've found BT's FTTC excellent actually
[22:16] <jonsowman> though I've not had to deal with their customer service which I've heard is dreadful
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[22:25] <mfa298> If you want bad customer service try talk talk. Their support line failed miserably to do anything.
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[22:40] <cuddykid> don't even get me started on talk talk lol
[22:41] <cuddykid> ended up having the complaint escalated to head office and even they were useless
[22:42] <chrisstubbs> The service seems fine for me, the router is just pathetic
[22:42] <chrisstubbs> it just decided to wipe all my port forwarding settings then crash, the web interface just 500's now
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[23:34] <griffonbot> Received email: RG-lz1dev "[UKHAS] Re: Mobile Tracking webapp"
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