highaltitude.log.20121215

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[00:04] <natrium43> new calculator is very nice
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[00:05] <Lunar_Lander> hi natrium43
[00:05] <Lunar_Lander> did you have birthday?
[00:07] <navrac> so luanch latishafternoon?
[00:07] <jcoxon> yeah thats what it seems
[00:07] <navrac> try that agin.So launch latishafternoon
[00:08] <navrac> try that agaisn
[00:08] <navrac> I give up keyboardsbroke
[00:08] <jcoxon> hehe
[00:08] <jcoxon> hysplit suggest the flight path not making it to denmark
[00:08] <jcoxon> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hysplitout/161184_trj001.gif
[00:09] <navrac> yes the ground gusts should stop from 2ish
[00:09] <jcoxon> which will make it a challenge
[00:09] <navrac> that is going to be a challenge
[00:09] <navrac> whats the LOS distance at 5km?
[00:10] <jcoxon> 291km
[00:10] <navrac> hmm tricky
[00:11] <jcoxon> that said it was harder last time
[00:11] <jcoxon> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/projects:picoatlas:picoatlasvii
[00:12] <jcoxon> there is the global tuner in north netherlands
[00:12] <navrac> better coveragefor the netherlands should help
[00:13] <navrac> from
[00:14] <navrac> we need an amateur to go on psk on HF and put the message out - a lot of them use fldigi alreasdy andmost have 70cm rigs as well as hf
[00:16] <jcoxon> navrac, my thought was to get them in the air
[00:16] <jcoxon> as soon as they've cleared the tree line to start recruiting
[00:17] <navrac> yes i agree - need to get some idea of arrival time before arm twisting
[00:19] <jcoxon> oooo my insulation is working
[00:19] <jcoxon> radio is getting a bit toasty
[00:19] <jarod> new photo: http://x264.nl/dump/ads-b-antenna-groundplane-proper.jpg
[00:19] <navrac> http://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html?preset&callsign=la6gh&what=country&timerange=21600&hidenight=1&hidelight=1
[00:20] <navrac> takes awhile to load, but gives an idea of who we could contact
[00:21] <jcoxon> potentially 3 flights tomorrow
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[00:21] <jcoxon> right i need to sleep
[00:22] <jcoxon> night all
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[00:22] <navrac> goodnight jcoxon
[00:34] <Laurenceb_> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/projects:picoatlas:picoatlasviii
[00:34] <Laurenceb_> thats quite insane
[00:35] <Laurenceb_> over 12 minutes
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[00:48] <KF7FER> jarod: Interesting antenna. The last ground plane antenna I made only had 4 radials. Is this better?
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[02:04] <SpeedEvil> http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/mpcv/orion_progress.html
[02:04] <SpeedEvil> sigh
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[02:05] <SpeedEvil> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) )
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[04:51] <KF7FER> so I feel cheated... I neither split nor joined
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[05:08] <arko> eroomde: you around?
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[05:13] <arko> heh, did some basic tests with this gopro at 240fps
[05:13] <arko> http://youtu.be/vi2OocU6kEY
[05:16] <SpeedEvil> neat
[05:16] <SpeedEvil> looks good
[05:16] <arko> yeah
[05:16] <SpeedEvil> how involved os it to setup at that stopped
[05:16] <SpeedEvil> speed
[05:17] <arko> looking forward to doing a full test with much better lighting
[05:17] <arko> os?
[05:18] <SpeedEvil> is
[05:18] <SpeedEvil> sorry, typos
[05:18] <arko> well, not very at all
[05:18] <arko> it's a gopro3 setup to shoot at 240fps, but the lighting was bad in this
[05:19] <arko> and it's not in the room where the test will happen
[05:19] <SpeedEvil> oh, that's a stock speed?
[05:19] <arko> yea
[05:19] <SpeedEvil> how much ate they?
[05:19] <SpeedEvil> are
[05:19] <arko> 400
[05:19] <arko> wayyy to much
[05:19] <SpeedEvil> pounds?
[05:19] <arko> $400
[05:19] <arko> USD
[05:19] <SpeedEvil> ah
[05:19] <SpeedEvil> still
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[05:20] <SpeedEvil> I'm trying to justify a nexus 4
[05:20] <arko> heh
[05:20] <arko> me too
[05:21] <SpeedEvil> the flash size is annoying
[05:21] <SpeedEvil> also wondering on max screen size
[05:21] <SpeedEvil> external
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[05:41] <arko> man now im wet
[05:41] <arko> parachute testing in the rain is fun!
[05:42] <arko> its more camera testing
[05:42] <arko> parachute is a prototype
[05:44] <SpeedEvil> :-)
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[05:54] <arko> damn
[05:54] <arko> stupid low light
[05:54] <arko> and stupid me for not being able to edit video
[05:55] <arko> http://youtu.be/ArX5biQGRgo
[05:55] <arko> i shot it in 720p 120fps
[06:10] <SpeedEvil> hah
[06:10] <SpeedEvil> did the police arrive before you left?
[06:12] <arko> nah, it's our lot
[06:12] <arko> i would ask the police to leave
[06:12] <arko> :P
[06:12] <arko> i wouldn't
[06:12] <arko> but they can't say jack
[06:13] <SpeedEvil> just looked weird :-)
[06:13] <arko> yeah
[06:13] <arko> downtown LA cops aren't too bad actually
[06:13] <SpeedEvil> when are you flying?
[06:13] <arko> the hab?
[06:14] <arko> Twentynine Palms, CA
[06:14] <arko> pretty much the Mohave
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[07:50] <jcoxon> morning all
[07:51] <Upu> morning
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[07:58] <jcoxon> Upu, forecasts are about the same
[07:59] <Upu> doubt I'll be able to RX it but will be watching
[07:59] <natrium43> so is launch going forward?
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[07:59] <Upu> oo natrium42 had an upgrade
[08:00] <jcoxon> Upu, there is a key north netherlands global tuner to be manned
[08:00] <jcoxon> natrium43, we'll try and launch...
[08:01] <natrium43> cool, good luck
[08:02] <natrium43> haha, upu
[08:02] Nick change: natrium43 -> natrium42
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[08:20] <jcoxon> morning number10
[08:20] <number10> morning jcoxon
[08:20] <jcoxon> any success with changing the freq?
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[08:21] <number10> I thought I would have a look at my soldering iron this morning to see if it has a small enough bit - I used a work one to make th board
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[08:22] <jcoxon> steve can't move either it seems
[08:23] <number10> I thought as much - his is bound to be a hand crafted one as well
[08:25] <jcoxon> bbiab
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[08:39] <Upu> hey KT5TK
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[09:10] <number10> jcoxon - is working on 434.200
[09:10] <jcoxon> great!
[09:10] <number10> my test payload doc doesnt seem to load - will have to do another and a flight doc
[09:10] <number10> and find someone from habhub
[09:12] <jcoxon> i've updated the title
[09:12] <number10> starnge that my old flight ANU loads but the one I did a couple of weeks ago NANU doesnt
[09:13] <number10> cheers
[09:13] <jcoxon> what ASCII is it?
[09:15] <number10> 7n2
[09:18] <number10> I just generated a new payload doc - Is in the test list but will not autoconfig
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[10:30] <fsphil> morning all .. anything launched yet?
[10:30] <fsphil> aah not yet
[10:30] <fsphil> the armada is still preparing :p
[10:31] <cuddykid> haha :D
[10:31] <cuddykid> who's is nanu?
[10:31] <Upu> number10
[10:32] <cuddykid> ah
[10:32] <Upu> making progress with this power saving
[10:33] <Upu> got a 2 sec cyclic working
[10:33] <Upu> theory 37 hours from an AA on the 3.3v board...
[10:33] <cuddykid> wow
[10:33] <Darkside> ooh
[10:33] <Darkside> nice
[10:34] <Upu> god knows what thats going to be on the 1.8v board
[10:34] <Upu> days
[10:34] <Darkside> so thats on the MAX-6Qs?
[10:34] <Upu> yeah
[10:34] <Upu> want to get it working
[10:34] <Upu> so I have a base line for the Max7's
[10:35] <Darkside> cool
[10:35] <Upu> but yeah pulling 80mA from the battery with constant TX
[10:35] <Upu> was 130mA
[10:38] <Darkside> very nice
[10:44] <fsphil> aprs.fi keeps forgetting my settings
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[10:46] <fsphil> has anyone managed to spot FITSAT-1?
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[10:47] <chrisg7ogx> whee are the freqs for these balloons please?
[10:48] <chrisg7ogx> too cloudy to see fitsat here
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[10:52] <fsphil> the frequencies are up on http://spacenear.us/tracker/
[10:53] <griffonbot> Received email: David Bowkis "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Pico launches sat 15th"
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[11:30] <cuddykid> anyone here operating HABJOE-BASE?
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[11:41] <futurity> Hi is there an ETA on the launch today
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[11:42] <futurity> Also does anyone know where it is being launched from?
[11:45] <Upu> They seem to do it at a farm
[11:46] <Upu> as they have a barn to fill in I think
[11:46] <Upu> not sure where though
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[11:46] <futurity> Upu: thanks. Need to aim the yagi. ;)
[11:47] <Upu> lol well check back about 3
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[11:47] <futurity> Yep good idea. That was my last option ;). Ttfn
[11:47] <Upu> or ask jcoxon
[11:48] <futurity> I'll see if I still have his mobile and text him
[11:49] <Upu> here here
[11:49] Action: Upu points at jcoxon
[11:49] <jcoxon> hello
[11:49] <futurity> Not in phone contacts. 3pm it is unless he surfaces here before then. Ttfn
[11:50] <futurity> Hi j
[11:51] <futurity> Can you say where you are launching from today? Still launching around 3pm?
[11:54] <jcoxon> yeah about then
[11:54] <jcoxon> hoping the wind will calm down a bit
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[11:54] <futurity> Suffolk?
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[11:59] <fsphil> is Suffolk a bad word? :)
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[12:27] <dharnke> hello upu, are you free?
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[12:37] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[12:45] <Lunar_Lander> hi
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[13:03] <griffonbot> Received email: Solar Balloonman "[UKHAS] Re: Ofcom Update: GPS Jamming Notice"
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[13:25] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[13:26] <jcoxon> still a bit gusty here
[13:27] <SpeedEvil> windless right now
[13:27] <jcoxon> hehe
[13:27] <jcoxon> usually its teh other way round SpeedEvil
[13:27] <SpeedEvil> actually, I lie
[13:27] <SpeedEvil> 1.2 mph
[13:34] <gonzo_mob> was reasonably light breeze here today
[13:35] <gonzo_mob> should be back in time for rx'ing some telem from xaben
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[13:42] <gonzo_mob> ah
[13:42] <gonzo_mob> raining and windy now
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[13:52] <eroomde> arko: i'm around now
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[14:28] <gb73d> is the 1500 baloon launch still gonna happen ?
[14:29] <Upu> Not heard but stick around
[14:29] <gb73d> ty
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[14:41] <navrac2> wind has dropped in this part of suffolk so time to put the mast up
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[14:42] <gonzo__> pico has just appeared
[14:42] <number10> james is attaching the payload to the balloon
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[14:44] <gb73d> what are the exact RTTY parameters ?
[14:45] <gb73d> i have 50 bd ascii 8
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[14:48] <gonzo__> think that was correct. 470Hz shift
[14:48] <gonzo__> Tjhough that may need asjudtibng when you see real sigs
[14:48] <junderwood_M0JCU> number10_M0MDB, dial freq?
[14:48] <gb73d> ok 470
[14:49] <gb73d> partity and stop bits ?
[14:50] <gonzo__> guess no par and 1stop
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[14:51] <gb73d> ty
[14:51] <gonzo__> nope... tty!
[14:52] <gb73d> its gonna be a long shot for M1ELK s of Reading
[14:52] <gonzo__> nope, should be possible
[14:53] <gonzo__> though depends of the alt of the HAB. It's a latex balloon, so should geta reasonable alt
[14:53] <gb73d> Look out Dave she's gonna blow !
[14:55] <fsphil> ooh latex launch? I thought it was all pico today
[14:55] <cuddykid> floating at 74m?!
[14:55] <gonzo__> thought pico was a 100gm lkatex?
[14:56] <LazyLeopard> Erf. dl-fldigi crash...
[14:56] Action: LazyLeopard restarts it...
[14:56] Action: fsphil is confused
[14:56] <cuddykid> fsphil: same haha
[14:56] <junderwood_M0JCU> Is this the record for the shortest ever flight?
[14:57] <LazyLeopard> Nope. That would have to go to one or other of the flights that met the trees on the edge of the field from which they were launched...
[14:57] <cuddykid> got caught in a tree perhaps? certainly in a treey area on satellite view
[14:58] <junderwood_M0JCU> OK. This one made almost 1 mile.
[14:58] <gb73d> the wind is very gusty
[14:58] <number10_M0MDB> junderwood_M0JCU: 434.398 but it has problems did not ascend
[14:58] <gonzo__> my vote is the one that the balloon blew away before the payload was attached
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[14:58] <gb73d> shame its a hard day wx wise
[14:58] <junderwood_M0JCU> Never mind. One down, two to go
[14:58] <number10_M0MDB> we will still try the other two - james has gone to see if he can retrieve
[14:59] <junderwood_M0JCU> What's next?
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[15:00] <number10_M0MDB> steve will do xaben, then i will do nanu
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[15:01] <gb73d> take care
[15:03] <number10_M0MDB> payload was attached - seemed to have enough fill inside - there was quite a bit of wind when launched - maybe it had a leak
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[15:08] <gb73d> BLT-32 - TO THE END OF THE WORLD AND FLOAT! No backup date, it's all or nothing. Launch from Covey Trails Airport in Fulshear, TX. Callsigns used will be: N0D-10 - Argent-Data APRS - 200 mW - 144.390 MHz N0D-11 - KT5TK Pecan Nut APRS with Telemetry - 144.390 MHz N0D - KT5TK PSK31 HF Beacon - 200 mW - 18.100 MHz http://www.w5acm.net/b32.html for more info.
[15:09] <navrac> just got set up - have I missed pico's launch?
[15:09] <fsphil> yay we're doomed!!
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[15:10] <gb73d> launch prob
[15:10] <gonzo__> nope, pico failed, they are trying to retrieve and do it again
[15:10] <fsphil> ah man
[15:10] <fsphil> missed that
[15:10] <fsphil> what happened?
[15:10] <number10_M0MDB> anyone from habhub check xaben - callsign uXABEB 434.300 7N1 50 baud lat, long altitude and three voltages
[15:11] <navrac> its happened to me before with the small foils - gets to 100m and splits for no aparent reason
[15:11] <fsphil> Exception in UKHAS main parse: Incorrect number of fields (got 9, expect 8)
[15:11] <fsphil> the doc is incorrect
[15:12] <fsphil> or is that PAVA
[15:12] <fsphil> sorry, PAVA has a doc error
[15:12] <number10_M0MDB> fsphil: can you fix it?
[15:12] <fsphil> I can't edit flight docs
[15:13] <number10_M0MDB> cheers
[15:13] <fsphil> will have to be DanielRichman or Randomskk
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[15:15] <DanielRichman> I am ln q train :S
[15:15] <DanielRichman> uh, *on a
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[15:16] <Upu> fsphil its got an extra field
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[15:17] <gb73d> yes we can :)
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[15:20] <DanielRichman> Upu: is PAVA yours?
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[15:20] <Upu> my doc yes
[15:20] <Upu> on you mean uploading at the moment ?
[15:20] <Upu> I'll kill it
[15:20] <Upu> doing testing
[15:21] <Upu> but I expect it to fail as there is extra debug data in there
[15:21] <DanielRichman> oh no problem
[15:21] <DanielRichman> I thought here was a problem with the real flight
[15:21] <DanielRichman> fsphil: ^^ ?
[15:22] <Upu> he must be mistaked sorry
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[15:25] <RocketBoy> boo
[15:26] <Upu> NANU failed as well ?
[15:26] <Upu> Hi Steve
[15:26] <number10_M0MDB> have not launched nanau yet
[15:26] <Upu> oh ok looked like it went up and came back down
[15:27] <number10_M0MDB> steve is ready but not uploading to space near
[15:27] <Upu> killed mine if someone wants to debug
[15:28] <Upu> [2012-12-15 15:27:42,803] INFO habitat.parser MainThread: Parsing [ascii] '$$uXABEN,89,15:27:26,52.12076,0.81376,65,1.78,1.81,1.50*632B\n' (5099c680ed034c5c6ee5b464f47b8d67d6617352b2982e7a15d3bdf747013287) from G8KHW
[15:28] <RocketBoy> just waiting to see mine on the tracker before i launch
[15:28] <Upu> [2012-12-15 15:27:36,472] DEBUG habitat.parser_daemon MainThread: Saved doc 4e1b7e33da68e5e6242d2b747894eedbe1a4e9ba1395bf7055f7811d15bacd5f successfully
[15:28] <Upu> ping DanielRichman
[15:28] <fsphil> now I'm really confused
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[15:30] <Upu> its parsing ok just not appearing on the map
[15:31] <fsphil> it's displaying in habhound fine so it must be the spacenear<>habitat link
[15:31] <fsphil> but that was fixed
[15:31] <RocketBoy> cant wait gonna launch anyways - rains comming this way
[15:31] <GMT> which one is about to launch?
[15:31] <gb73d> brave souls go 4 it
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[15:36] <navrac> got uxaben here strong signal
[15:36] <navrac> uploading
[15:38] <navrac> nice slow floaty ascent there
[15:38] <navrac> 1-1.8m/s
[15:39] <m0psi> what freq is xaben on, 300?
[15:40] <G8KNN-Jon> 434.301
[15:40] <navrac> 302
[15:41] <m0psi> can hear it in surrey, still trying
[15:41] <navrac> its only at 386m its a slow riser so you'll need to wait 5mins or so
[15:41] <fsphil> it's heading north
[15:41] <fsphil> well, north east
[15:41] <RocketBoy> can anyone fix the map?
[15:42] <Upu> need a Habhub person
[15:44] <GMT> nothing heard in west London (yet)
[15:44] <m0psi> (that was supposed to be "cannot hear it in surrey")
[15:45] <Upu> RocketBoy which flight document is it ?
[15:46] <RocketBoy> payload aaf41b2f2f9f78a085849d3e648a33dd
[15:46] <RocketBoy> flight aaf41b2f2f9f78a085849d3e648b2b95
[15:46] <Upu> k bear with me
[15:47] <RocketBoy> cheers
[15:47] <navrac> 465m
[15:47] <RocketBoy> still goimg up - cool
[15:47] <Upu> ok did a new doc
[15:47] <Upu> without the valid fix check
[15:47] <RocketBoy> very riugh launch
[15:48] <RocketBoy> including being dragged over a barn roof
[15:48] <fsphil> heading almost directly north east now
[15:48] <junderwood_M0JCU> do we have a dial frequency?
[15:48] <m0psi> 434.302, last I asked
[15:49] <navrac> i make it 434.302
[15:49] <junderwood_M0JCU> Ta
[15:49] <navrac> but can't guarantee my caqlibration to better than 1khz
[15:50] <PE2G> So it's xaben only?
[15:50] <navrac> at the moment
[15:51] <m0psi> not much of an armada :-)
[15:51] <m0psi> more like a lone scout :-)
[15:51] <navrac> only takes one good one
[15:51] <RocketBoy> yeah i make it 434.303.15 centre
[15:52] <m0psi> are these three launches testing anything in particular?
[15:52] <junderwood_M0JCU> RocketBoy, thanks. Going out now but radio set to 434.303.15 centre
[15:53] <navrac> my ft726 makes it 434.303.4 and the funcube makes it 434.302.5
[15:55] <number10_M0MDB> raining here a bit - delay for nanu launch
[15:55] <fsphil> just north of Stowmarket
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[15:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi, what happend?
[15:57] <gb73d> weather
[15:57] <RocketBoy> one up - uXABEN
[15:58] <m0psi> xaben launched. not tracking on map. but about 1k up.
[15:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> did pico land again?
[15:58] <number10_M0MDB> pico came down -well didnt quite go up at the expected rate
[15:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ahh ok what a shame
[15:59] <number10_M0MDB> xaben still going up slowly but not on spacenear at the moment
[15:59] <LazyLeopard> Very faint trace on waterfall from uXABEN
[15:59] <number10_M0MDB> waiting for the rain to clear to send up next one
[15:59] <gb73d> lookin
[16:00] <gb73d> yes v thin line
[16:00] <navrac> $$$$uXABEN,220,16:00:02,52.26456,1.05280,693,1.78,1.81,1.47*8583
[16:00] <gb73d> maps updated
[16:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> number10_M0MDB so pico is a no go, i mean you will not try to relaunch it?
[16:02] <number10_M0MDB> OZ1SKY_Brian: james is trying to recover it now - just comming back
[16:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok
[16:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> I have notified oz5agj and oz9aeh about the launches
[16:04] <number10_M0MDB> he didnt find it
[16:05] <Upu> sigh
[16:05] <m0psi> :-(
[16:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh no
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[16:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Launch NANU and go look again :-)
[16:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Or has PISO it stoped transmitting?
[16:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PICO
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[16:13] <LazyLeopard> Ah. Getting uXABEN (just) some of the time now....
[16:13] <bertrik> looks like uXaben is heading for the north sea
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[16:14] <Upu> what frequency is uxaben on ?
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[16:14] <LazyLeopard> 434.302.3 dial
[16:15] <Upu> ok thx
[16:15] <bertrik> rate -0.0 m/s
[16:15] <Upu> bit out of range for me atm
[16:19] <LazyLeopard> It's drifting away from me, so probably won't be in range for long unless it ascends a fair bit...
[16:20] <LazyLeopard> Already back to borderline. Pretty nearly out of earshot now....
[16:21] <number10_M0MDB> we hopefully will do when the rain stops OZ1SKY_Brian
[16:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sounds good
[16:23] <gb73d> i getting dinner watching the elev
[16:24] <LazyLeopard> Elevation -0.1 ;)
[16:24] <fsphil> I don't think this is going to be in range of me at all :)
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[16:25] <LazyLeopard> fsphil: Elevation -5 ;)
[16:25] <fsphil> aaah
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[16:26] <fsphil> this could be it's max altitude then
[16:26] <LazyLeopard> I'm just outside the blue line at the moment.
[16:26] <fsphil> that's a very low float
[16:27] <x-f> evening
[16:27] <fsphil> howdy
[16:28] <x-f> i started the country-skiing season today, got lost in the forrest :|
[16:29] <gb73d> looks like it cant break thru the could layer
[16:29] <gb73d> cloud
[16:29] <x-f> looks like the Pico Armada isn't doing well
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[16:31] <fsphil> not the first time that's happened
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[16:35] <jcoxon> hence why its called an armada
[16:35] <jcoxon> they often get screwed by weather
[16:37] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[16:37] <lz1dev> jcoxon: did you launch today?
[16:38] <jcoxon> well i did
[16:38] <jcoxon> but its in a tree
[16:38] <lz1dev> right now?
[16:38] <LazyLeopard> ...and has been for a while.
[16:39] <gb73d> turbulent air today
[16:39] <lz1dev> trees are hab's natural enemy
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[16:39] <Armand> Errmmm.. I don't see many flying trees.. O_o
[16:40] <number10_M0MDB> nanu up
[16:40] <gb73d> Look out Dave she's gonna blow!
[16:40] <lz1dev> Armand: don't underestimate the powers of a single tree
[16:40] <gb73d> sri wrong window , firing up big bertha
[16:41] <malgar> BrainDamage1: ciao
[16:41] <x-f> HABs tend to think like birds
[16:43] <jcoxon> guys
[16:43] <jcoxon> keep on uXaben while you can
[16:43] <jcoxon> nanu we can track here for a bit
[16:44] <LazyLeopard> 'kay
[16:46] <jcoxon> ping Upu
[16:46] <gb73d> im giving up, gl the texas EOW balloon 2200 utc
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[16:48] <Upu> pong jcoxon
[16:48] <navrac> missed nanu launch - got christmas tree light adjusting duties at the critical time
[16:48] <jcoxon> fancy vncing to see if my station is working
[16:48] <Upu> rgr
[16:49] <Upu> negative nothing heard
[16:50] <jcoxon> oh well
[16:50] <jcoxon> its not ideally placed
[16:50] <jcoxon> so 2/3 for the armada
[16:50] <jcoxon> not bad
[16:50] <Upu> I;ll keep an eye on it
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[16:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon sorry to hear about pico
[16:56] <jcoxon> OZ1SKY_Brian, its okay
[16:57] <jcoxon> still 2 flights for you!
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[16:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> heh yeah lets hope they make it
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[17:02] <Upu> Got uXABEN in that there Yorkshire
[17:05] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[17:05] Action: LazyLeopard noticed ;)
[17:06] Action: LazyLeopard is struggling with it at the moment.
[17:06] <LazyLeopard> Lots of red,
[17:06] <LazyLeopard> Only occasionally green
[17:07] <navrac2> uxaben is going to be a very low float by the looks of it
[17:07] <LazyLeopard> It's certainly making a wiggly ascent....
[17:08] <Upu> whats NANU on ?
[17:09] <navrac2> cant tell from here I'm afraid
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[17:16] <G8KNN-Jon> NANUs on 434.200 dead
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[17:23] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Havn't had a good line from uXABEN in a while...
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[17:24] <jcoxon> back in the warm
[17:24] <Upu> hi jcoxon you could see the payload on your waterfall
[17:24] <Upu> but it wasn't strong enough
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[17:26] <navrac2> I've got a conference badge andaublox breakout and a spare balloon if you want to drop by whilsy you're up here james
[17:26] <navrac2> probably a sparesolarcell too
[17:26] <futurity> Hi,
[17:27] <futurity> Available to track. Does anyone have a preference for which payload I should try and track?
[17:27] <jcoxon> oooo i can see it
[17:27] <futurity> Located in Cambridge
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[17:27] <jcoxon> navrac2, i've got two
[17:27] <jcoxon> its okay
[17:27] <navrac2> thought you might like to knock up a spare payload
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[17:30] <jcoxon> nah its okay
[17:30] <jcoxon> lets see how this goes
[17:31] <gonzo__> spacenearus not showing receiver sites?
[17:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> gonzo__ it is here
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[17:33] <gonzo__> odd. Poss a browser specific thing
[17:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> using firefox here
[17:33] <gonzo__> ditto
[17:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> V17.0.1
[17:34] <futurity> Tracking uXABEN successfully now
[17:34] <gonzo__> yep, ditto again
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[17:38] <SP9UOB> Evening ALL
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[17:41] <fsphil> aah, all still up
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[17:41] <fsphil> it's like a race to Denmark
[17:41] <jcoxon> go pico!
[17:41] <jcoxon> oh wait
[17:41] <fsphil> haha
[17:41] <fsphil> did you find it?
[17:42] <jcoxon> no not yet
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[17:49] <Upu> shift on NANU about 360 ?
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[17:51] <number10_M0MDB> 460 Upu
[17:51] <number10_M0MDB> 434.200.46
[17:51] <Upu> ah gotcha
[17:52] <Upu> just not quite decoding via the FCD
[17:53] <SP9UOB> Upu: Thanks for inspiration :-)) -> http://sp9uob.verox.pl/balon/sputnik3.jpg
[17:53] <Upu> lol thank daveake
[17:53] <daveake> hah
[17:54] <SP9UOB> :-)
[17:55] <daveake> My balls have been an inspiration to many
[17:55] <SP9UOB> daveake: lol :-)
[17:56] <number10_M0MDB> especially when they are pink
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[17:58] <Upu> Signal from uXABEN is impressive
[17:58] <dharnke> hello upu
[17:58] <Upu> hi dharnke
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[17:59] <dharnke> just wandering can you look at my dl-fldigi to check if im on right track
[17:59] <number10_M0MDB> steves antenna on that was good - 4 radials
[17:59] <number10_M0MDB> only have two on NANU
[17:59] <Upu> ah ok I'm struggling with NANU but then I always struggle with the SDR tbh
[17:59] <Upu> dharnke at what point are you ?
[18:00] <dharnke> i get the voltage shift on my ntx2 and get a pair of waterfaLLS
[18:00] <Upu> and the pair is separated by how many hz ?
[18:00] <Upu> there is a scale on the waterfall
[18:01] <dharnke> over 425
[18:01] <Upu> <600 ?
[18:01] <dharnke> yep
[18:01] <Upu> well tbh if you have such a decernable separate you have the circuit right
[18:01] <x-f> SP9UOB, that Sputnik will go up on a 100g balloon?
[18:01] <Upu> ok so whats the issue ?
[18:01] <navrac2> nanu is taking a bit of a dip
[18:02] <dharnke> i wanted to send a test message from my transmitter to the receiver
[18:02] <Upu> ok
[18:02] <jcoxon> uxaben float?
[18:02] <Upu> yeah looks like it jcoxon
[18:02] <number10_M0MDB> :(
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[18:03] <SP9UOB> x-f: right, if i get permission from CAA - next saturday @10 UTC
[18:03] <Upu> nanu coming down ?
[18:03] <SP9UOB> x-f: i issued request at friday - 8 days before
[18:04] <number10_M0MDB> doesnt look good Upu
[18:04] <navrac2> looks like its dipping a bit fast
[18:04] <x-f> SP9UOB, what altitude are you expecting of it?
[18:04] <Upu> dharnke have you got the code to TX a message ?
[18:04] <SP9UOB> x-f: i have no idea - ballons are 10 years (or more) old
[18:04] <Upu> it should sound like computer data if you listen to it
[18:05] <SP9UOB> dharnke: sx-spectrum or so
[18:05] <dharnke> yep, it sounds like that
[18:05] <SP9UOB> zx-spectrum :-)
[18:06] <x-f> SP9UOB, ok, i was hoping you missed a zero on "100g" :)
[18:06] <navrac2> nanu looks like a rip
[18:06] <dharnke> sounds like that too
[18:06] <dharnke> a string of beeps
[18:06] <SP9UOB> x-f: i gos 10 of them form my friend
[18:06] <SP9UOB> got
[18:07] <x-f> great, will see how they perform
[18:07] <jcoxon> oh noes!
[18:08] <SP9UOB> x-f: http://sp9uob.verox.pl/balon/kaysam.jpg
[18:09] <futurity> Does anyone know how to activate the Bearing Distance and Elevation details in dl-fldigi?
[18:09] <navrac2> normally you just have to make sure your location is set
[18:09] <navrac2> but it also depends on the format of the payload data
[18:09] <number10_M0MDB> also make sure your location altitude is set
[18:09] <futurity> Locator under the operator tab?
[18:10] <navrac2> no theres another location
[18:10] <SP9UOB> futurity: http://sp9uob.verox.pl/balon/fldigiconfigpos.jpg
[18:10] <futurity> I've set the details under Location tab, stationary Listener (check(
[18:10] <futurity> Lat long and altitude set
[18:11] <LazyLeopard> decimal degrees
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[18:12] <futurity> thanks for the image
[18:12] <futurity> mine setup exactly like that
[18:13] <SP9UOB> futurity: did You choose payload?
[18:13] <futurity> dl-fldigi 3.21.50
[18:14] <futurity> yes ran DL Client-> refresh flight data
[18:14] <futurity> then selected Splat1&. and then clicked auto-configure
[18:14] <futurity> adjusted the RTTY to 480
[18:14] <futurity> all decoding fine
[18:15] <futurity> just no Bearing, distance etc
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[18:15] <x-f> SP9UOB, another question that bugs me - when you do a launch, are you required to keep ATC informed what's the current location of you payload during the whole flight?
[18:15] <futurity> do i have an old version in which this didn't work?
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[18:15] <SP9UOB> x-f: no, but they sometimes call me
[18:15] <RocketBoy> just sitting on felixstow cliff tops - cracking signal on the wip
[18:16] <SP9UOB> x-f: especially before EURO2012
[18:16] <SP9UOB> x-f: because of much air traffic
[18:16] <number10_M0MDB> was a good antenna on yor payload RocketBoy
[18:16] <x-f> what's EURO2012?
[18:16] <x-f> something football?
[18:17] <SP9UOB> x-f: yes.
[18:17] <x-f> right
[18:17] <x-f> SP9UOB, thank you
[18:17] <SP9UOB> i dont like footbal...
[18:18] <Upu> I like Picos but they don't half have a lingering death
[18:18] <RocketBoy> definate float i'd say
[18:19] <Upu> yours is
[18:19] <Upu> the signal is very very good RocketBoy
[18:19] <Upu> rock solid and strong
[18:19] <RocketBoy> :-)
[18:20] <jcoxon> poor nanu
[18:20] <LazyLeopard> NANU is not quite managing to stay on dry land...
[18:20] <number10_M0MDB> looks like my one has sunk :( and has transmit problem - there is some rain there
[18:20] <Upu> 1 out of 3 :/
[18:20] <jcoxon> the armada is failing
[18:20] <Upu> our invasion of Norway not so impressive
[18:21] <number10_M0MDB> but pico should live for another day
[18:21] <Upu> did you recover Pico ?
[18:21] <Upu> oh btw I got the power saving working RocketBoy
[18:21] <Upu> 10s cyclic does not work , but 1 sec does
[18:22] <number10_M0MDB> no - james is getting his wellies on first thing tomorrow
[18:22] <Upu> 79mA pull on the battery in PSM with the 3.3V board, not tested it on the 1.8v board as I don't currently have any
[18:23] <SP9UOB> Upu: do You cut off GPS power ?
[18:23] <RocketBoy> this one has psm on - but didn't get to test it before flight
[18:23] <Upu> no
[18:23] <Upu> not on this board
[18:23] <Upu> but 79mA from a 3000mA AA its going to go along way
[18:23] <Upu> ok fingers cross it doesn't lock up
[18:24] <SP9UOB> Upu: i want to do GPS cutoff - witk 3V backup battery
[18:24] <Upu> shouldn't do if it doesn't loose lock
[18:24] <Upu> yeah I have a board for that in manufacturer
[18:24] <Upu> -r
[18:24] <SP9UOB> BRB
[18:25] <RocketBoy> the psm looked like it was working - cos the battery voltage went up about the time it should have kicked in (30 consecutive good positions)
[18:26] <Upu> interesting way of doing it
[18:26] <Upu> I'll report back on my findings tommorrow, need to do more testing but the rig is currently following your payload :)
[18:27] Nick change: Upu -> Upu_M0UPU
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[18:28] <RocketBoy> i did some inductor testing - efficency was 90+ percent - with about 1/2 percent difference between the 4mm and 6mm inductor
[18:28] <RocketBoy> this one is flying on a 4mm inductor
[18:29] <RocketBoy> btw the 3 readings at the end of my strings are core voltage, rail voltage (Vdd) and battery voltage
[18:32] <RocketBoy> going home for some T
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[18:41] <jcoxon> number10_M0MDB, sorry about Nanu
[18:42] <number10_M0MDB> thats ok jcoxon, do you think over filled?
[18:43] <number10_M0MDB> have to eat my food now otherwise I will be in trouble afk
[18:43] <jcoxon> not sure
[18:43] <jcoxon> rough weather perhaps
[18:44] <SP9UOB> Upu: for gps power management im using TPS2034
[18:44] <SP9UOB> not 1.8V compatible, but does the job on 3v3
[18:45] <jcoxon> armada is down to 1
[18:45] <jcoxon> go uXaben
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[18:48] <craag> dial freq on xaben?
[18:51] <LazyLeopard> 434.303
[18:54] <x-f> well placed GT
[18:54] <x-f> got anything on it, craag
[18:54] <x-f> ^ question
[18:54] <craag> x-f: visible on the waterfall, but nothing yet.
[18:55] <craag> Is it 7n2?
[18:56] <LazyLeopard> 7n1
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[18:58] <jcoxon> craag, just compiling dl-fldigi
[18:58] <jcoxon> ironic that i have to do that and host the source
[18:59] <craag> Hmm, my fldigi has stopped decoding anything, at all, not even noise.
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[19:00] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[19:01] <x-f> hi
[19:02] <navrac> I've got to nip out for a while- I've got 2 receivers on uxaben - 1 beam and an omni so at least one should hold out for a while - still showing s9
[19:02] <jcoxon> craag, i'm on the case
[19:03] <craag> Cool. I might reboot into windows and try from there.
[19:03] <Lunar_Lander> flights progressing well so far?
[19:03] <x-f> success rate ir 33%
[19:04] <x-f> is*
[19:04] <futurity> at my limit of tracking uXABEN
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[19:06] <Lunar_Lander> x-f, btw what is the word for launch in latvian?
[19:06] <Lunar_Lander> google translator claims "Barkass"
[19:06] <x-f> umm..
[19:07] <x-f> that is definately not a word in Latvian
[19:07] <jcoxon> decoding on GT
[19:08] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[19:08] <x-f> Lunar_Lander, sorry, that is a valid word, it just means something i didn't know, something with ships or boats
[19:08] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[19:08] <Lunar_Lander> and takeoff is supposed to be "pacelaans"
[19:09] <x-f> yes
[19:09] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[19:09] <Lunar_Lander> thanks :)
[19:09] <x-f> np
[19:10] <x-f> launch doesn't really translate well, it's something like takeoff or a start
[19:11] <x-f> letting it go - palaiaana
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[19:12] <LazyLeopard> There's a faint trace on the waterfall, but havn't decoded anything sensible from uXABEN in a while...
[19:13] <LazyLeopard> ...and NANU is presumably in the water by now.
[19:23] <jcoxon> craag, easy to decode
[19:23] <jcoxon> but my stupid dl-fldigi install
[19:23] <craag> I was about to say, very strong on the GT now.
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[19:42] <SP9UOB> hahahah 8 channel floppy music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lsK-PPg-lOA#at=116
[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> hi SP9UOB
[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> how are you?
[19:44] <SP9UOB> Lunar_Lander: hi, thanks im fine :-)
[19:45] <Lunar_Lander> that's good to hear
[19:45] <Lunar_Lander> have a look at this http://s.gullipics.com/image/6/9/s/5yvrqw-kiknrb-x3kc/IMG6313.jpeg
[19:45] <SP9UOB> Lunar_Lander: nice :-)
[19:45] <Lunar_Lander> thanks :)
[19:46] <mclane> hi lunar, any launch planned??
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> yea we want to be ready for January
[19:48] <SP9UOB> Lunar_Lander: my is ready: http://sp9uob.verox.pl/hab1.jpg http://sp9uob.verox.pl/hab2.jpg
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> APRS?
[19:49] <bertrik> What's the little pcb with the ring on it?
[19:49] <SP9UOB> http://sp9uob.verox.pl/IMG_9935-big.JPG
[19:49] <SP9UOB> http://sp9uob.verox.pl/IMG_9936-big.JPG
[19:50] <SP9UOB> Lunar_Lander: APRS onboard, RTTY, SSDV and etc on daughtercard
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[19:50] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[19:51] <SP9UOB> bertrik: Pressure and temp sensor - HP03SA
[19:51] <jcoxon> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hysplitout/18137_trj001.gif
[19:52] <mclane> hp03sa
[19:52] <mclane> sorry wrong window
[19:53] <SP9UOB> Lunar_Lander: also has APRS demodulation (2 way communications) in DSP core :-)
[19:54] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[19:54] <Lunar_Lander> what sorts of commands can it do?
[19:55] <jcoxon> craag, yay for henk!
[19:55] <craag> jcoxon: Indeed!
[19:56] <craag> To others: we have the owner of the globaltuner helping us out, trying different antennas to get the best snr.
[19:57] <SP9UOB> Lunar_Lander: cutoff etc
[19:57] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[19:58] <SP9UOB> Lunar_Lander: and telemetry also: http://aprs.fi/info/a/SP9UOB-11
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[19:59] <Lunar_Lander> nice
[19:59] <Lunar_Lander> what sensors does it have?
[19:59] <SP9UOB> Lunar_Lander: hp03sa - internal temp/pressure and DS18B20 for external temp
[20:00] <SP9UOB> also any analog digital sensor can by added
[20:02] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[20:06] <SP9UOB> just another floppy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJOz_y9rZE
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[20:17] <SP9UOB> Lunar_Lander: my last launch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KoiOtl8_fw&feature=youtu.be
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
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[20:25] <PE2G> Xaben's speed is ~51 km/h
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[20:27] <jcoxon> oooo not bad at all
[20:28] <Lunar_Lander> SP9UOB, so you made the parachute at home?
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[20:28] <Lunar_Lander> PE2G, yay
[20:30] <Laurenceb_> jcoxon: what happened to pico?
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[20:32] <jcoxon> pico is in a tree
[20:32] <jcoxon> about 1km from launch site
[20:32] <jcoxon> not enough lift
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[20:38] <Laurenceb_> :(
[20:38] <SpeedEvil> :-(
[20:39] <SpeedEvil> (not a smiley, a picture of a tree)
[20:39] <jcoxon> Laurenceb_, uXaben is pushin ahead
[20:40] <PE2G> jcoxon, Xaben is an excellent floater, you did a great job!
[20:41] <jcoxon> hehe - its RocketBoy's work
[20:41] <PE2G> OK, he did an excellent job.
[20:42] <eroomde> if english is not your first language, you might be unaware that your message works on more than one level
[20:44] <jcoxon> PE2G, challenging launch, really need calmer days to launch
[20:46] <PE2G> Nice that you launched nevertheless. On this course it produces a strong signal here
[20:46] <jcoxon> yes
[20:48] <PE2G> It even drowns out local interference.
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[20:49] <Laurenceb_> nice even oscillation
[20:49] <Laurenceb_> around 12 minute period or so
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[21:07] <eroomde> weird thing just happened, i stopped being able to think what i was doing with this code, then i forgot how to type, then i couldn't remember my own name, then i had to concentrate on breathing just to stay alive. it was like the IQ version of the effect of kryptonite on superman. then i realised it was because a documentary called 'girls allowed - ten years at the top' was on the tv in the corner. i changed the channel and now a few minutes later my i
[21:08] <eroomde> it was a close run thing. they should provide health warnings or somthing
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> I suspect it was not on BBC but ITV or so?
[21:08] <eroomde> it was ITV or so
[21:08] <eroomde> good guess
[21:11] <number10_M0MDB> uXABEN, and tracking is going well
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[21:15] <RocketBoy> yeah - looking good - sorry about yours #10
[21:16] <RocketBoy> I checked the ascent rates were very similar - so it cant have been overfill methinks
[21:17] <jcoxon> picos are hard
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[21:18] <RocketBoy> yeah - and NANU's launch was almost perfect (unlike mine)
[21:20] <jcoxon> bbiab
[21:20] <Lunar_Lander> hello RocketBoy
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[21:52] <PE2G> In the past half hour, the speed was 41 km/h, tracking 042 deg.
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[21:59] <jcoxon> hi pa3hdm
[22:00] <pa3hdm> hi
[22:00] <pa3hdm> i follow uxaben\
[22:02] <jcoxon> excellent
[22:03] <PE2G> pa3hdm, where are you?
[22:03] <pa3hdm> signal i receive with my kenwood ts 790e
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[22:04] <pa3hdm> triemen northern part netherlands\
[22:04] <pa3hdm> and owner globaltuners dokkum dx receiver and globaltuners admin\
[22:05] <pa3hdm> locator jo33bg
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[22:06] <PE2G> I see, Thanks for the info. I've used the Dokkum Globaltuner :-)
[22:07] <pa3hdm> ok
[22:08] <Lunar_Lander> hi pa3hdm
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[22:09] <pa3hdm> hi lunar\
[22:12] <Upu_M0UPU> well thats impressive
[22:12] Nick change: Upu_M0UPU -> Upu
[22:13] <Upu> this the payload with the 30 hour run time RocketBoy ?
[22:13] <Upu> oh will be more with power saving
[22:13] <RocketBoy> yeah - I calculated 47
[22:14] <Upu> sounds about in the ball park
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[22:15] Action: craag has a flight east out of london tomorrow, not sure how holding an antenna up to the window would go down...
[22:15] <Upu> have you left the cyclic as the default ?
[22:15] <RocketBoy> hang on I'll have to check what I did
[22:15] <Upu> I found if you leave cyclic as default (1s)
[22:16] <Upu> and sats > 4 (note > not >=)
[22:16] <Upu> and you put it in PSM mode its fine
[22:16] <Upu> if you put it in PSM with sats=4 and lock=3 it breaks
[22:16] <Upu> also found if you override the default cyclic of 1s the modules starts to act wierdly and doesn't seem to save any power
[22:18] <griffonbot> Received email: David Bowkis "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Pico launches sat 15th"
[22:19] <RocketBoy> oh - I just put in psm after 30 consecutive good 3D positions
[22:19] <Upu> so default cyclic
[22:19] <Upu> yeah that will work
[22:19] <Upu> I don't think 10 second cyclic works, notably its missing from the MAX7
[22:19] <RocketBoy> yeah defualt 1sec cyclic
[22:20] <Upu> yep thats what worked for me
[22:20] <Upu> what was it taking from the battery ?
[22:20] <RocketBoy> that saves about 25mA
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[22:20] <Upu> on the 3.3v board it went from 130mA to 79mA
[22:20] <RocketBoy> 70ma - down to 45ma total
[22:20] <Upu> nice
[22:21] <Upu> got any pics of the board ?
[22:22] <RocketBoy> na too ugly - just matrix board + ublox module + rfm22B + vero DC-DC
[22:22] <Upu> lol
[22:23] <RocketBoy> came out at 30g almost on the nose
[22:23] <Upu> I'd like to point out your "ugly" is currently winning the Pico race and floating towards Denmark :)
[22:23] <RocketBoy> well i'm pleased so far
[22:24] <Upu> lovely flight path too lots of receivers
[22:24] <Upu> 30g with an AA ?
[22:25] <bertrik> yes, you have a nice community :)
[22:25] <Upu> we do indeed :)
[22:26] <RocketBoy> yep 30g with AA all up
[22:27] <Upu> should have registered it on ARHAB you'd have taken the lightest payload record :)
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[22:29] <RocketBoy> hey ho
[22:29] <RocketBoy> I wish I had got the PIC chip temperature sensor diode working - it worked at 3.3v - but went mad at 1.8v - didn't have time to fix it for the flight
[22:30] <Upu> well as far as test flights go its a success
[22:30] <Upu> now is Brian going to stay up late enough to listen for it ? :)
[22:30] <daveake> :)
[22:30] <daveake> Nice float there RocketBoy
[22:31] <RocketBoy> thats a good Q
[22:31] <RocketBoy> so far so good
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[22:33] <Upu> just seeing if I can hear it
[22:33] <Lunar_Lander> Q of James Bond?
[22:34] <RocketBoy> Mmmm could B
[22:34] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:35] <Upu> shame thats not a little hgher
[22:35] <Upu> M218
[22:35] <Upu> c
[22:36] <Upu> wrong window
[22:38] <Lunar_Lander> Upu, can I ask one more 808 question?
[22:38] <Upu> sure
[22:38] <pa3hdm> fly to denmark lalala i here still the rtty
[22:38] <Lunar_Lander> you said they jam GPS
[22:38] <Lunar_Lander> that means they are poorly interference suppressed?
[22:38] <Upu> yes
[22:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu looks like it :)
[22:38] <Lunar_Lander> couldn't some sort of faraday cage help?
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> hi Brian
[22:39] <Upu> Lunar don't make your fligth more complex than it already is
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> true
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> is investing in a GoPro later on better?
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> for a later flight
[22:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
[22:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> dail freq?
[22:42] <jcoxon> 434.3049
[22:42] <pa3hdm> in usb
[22:42] <jcoxon> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hysplitout/17170_trj001.gif
[22:43] <JFS1> Brian - have you or anyone else worked out an e.t.a. for the HABs where you can track?
[22:43] <Upu> Amsterdam GT unable to hear it
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> I got a strange phenomenon though Upu
[22:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> JFS1 i havent
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> when I am on USB and a tune up, i.e. from .075 to .076 the tone gets lower
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> the actual audio
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> the circuit is the same as given in the wiki
[22:43] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Pico launches sat 15th"
[22:44] <daveake> yes of course it does
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[22:44] <pa3hdm> gt dokkum is up
[22:44] <daveake> The tone you hear has a frequency of TxFreq - Rxfreq
[22:44] <pa3hdm> you can here it there\
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[22:44] <pa3hdm> thats my receiver
[22:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon not a good track for me, but lets see
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> and also I got a 600 Hz shift
[22:46] <Upu> do you have to press RV to get it to decode Lunar ?
[22:46] <Upu> hi pa3hdm
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[22:47] <pa3hdm> hi upu
[22:48] <Upu> anyone got any friends in Norway ? :)
[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> there is one guy at sparkfun
[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> let me check
[22:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu the major problem is the time, not alot of poeple up during the night
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> the one I thought of isn't in the IRC
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[22:50] <Upu> yep that a major issues
[22:50] <Upu> afk a few
[22:51] <jcoxon> it won't reach norway till tomorrow
[22:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> we can expect oz5agj to get up in about 6-7hours
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[22:52] <Lunar_Lander> ah is he a morning person?
[22:53] <jcoxon> the map is like art, 3 circles getting bigger and bigger
[22:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon or a smithcard earlyer
[22:53] <JFS1> If the timings of the predicted path jcoxon put up are to be believed oz5agj should be able to track when he gets up
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[22:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> MY problem is west direction is very bad radio wise
[22:54] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Daniels "[UKHAS] DSP Soundcard doppler RDF system"
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[22:55] <Lunar_Lander> Brian because of hills or so?
[22:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> right
[22:57] <pa3hdm> i have no hills no high buildings all flatt
[22:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it dependt on the elevation, but it looks like it will stay way off the coast
[22:57] <jcoxon> yeah interestinging that its at 1deg elevation from dortmun
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[22:58] <jcoxon> need someone in Esbjerg
[22:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> pa3hdm i have that soon too, but my new place is not ready yet
[22:58] <jcoxon> that would be useful
[22:58] <pa3hdm> ok\
[22:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon i know one, but again the hours is the problem
[22:59] <jcoxon> true
[22:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i just hope it will get abit more east
[23:00] <pa3hdm> yes\
[23:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but it seems to turn more and more north
[23:00] <pa3hdm> yes\
[23:00] <pa3hdm> someone hf radio on?
[23:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> pa3hdm what do you mean?
[23:01] <pa3hdm> amateur radio on shortwave
[23:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes i know but do you mean like a mission control or something :)
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[23:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i only got a broken mini g5rv up for HF and lag a power cable
[23:03] <jcoxon> N0D is up in the US
[23:04] <pa3hdm> then we can not make radiocontact
[23:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> pa3hdm no i dont think thats possible
[23:05] <pa3hdm> ok
[23:05] <zyp> I wish I could help, but I don't have any radio equipment or know anyone with
[23:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> where are you at in PA, dont see you on the map?
[23:06] <pa3hdm> northernpart
[23:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> near?
[23:06] <pa3hdm> near dokkum
[23:06] <pa3hdm> you see the map?
[23:07] <pa3hdm> m0dny uses my receiver
[23:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ahh ok i see
[23:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> allmost pobbile on 2m sbb then
[23:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> pobbible
[23:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hmm
[23:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> possible
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[23:08] <pa3hdm> and the pa3hdm is same location but another radio
[23:09] <UpuWork> I can't seem to connect to freenode from home for some reason
[23:09] <jcoxon> UpuWork, i've updatd the wiki's dl-fldigi guide with new pics
[23:09] <jcoxon> also i've identified the final resting place of Pico
[23:10] <eroomde> your own personal netsplit
[23:10] <jcoxon> i must have been 5m from it
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[23:12] <number10_M0MDB> was it here jcoxon http://i.imgur.com/Bu8LY.jpg
[23:12] <jcoxon> if you look on the sat images
[23:12] <jcoxon> its in some trees that surround that farm
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[23:13] <jcoxon> looking at the contours it can't be that high
[23:13] <number10_M0MDB> hope you get it back tomorrow, and nice to see the flagship of the armada still sailing!
[23:14] <Upu> would be nice if you can retrieve it
[23:14] <Upu> looks good
[23:14] <Upu> the guide
[23:14] <jcoxon> a bit annoyed i didn't just keep going a little further
[23:15] <Upu> Got a recording of your flight by the way RocketBoy if you want it
[23:15] <Upu> very very clear until it goes out of range
[23:16] <Upu> yeah shame I should try some of these
[23:16] <Upu> I'll grab some balloons in the new year and try some
[23:16] <number10_M0MDB> jcoxon: elevation for ground there is 70m so its probably not far off ground
[23:16] <Upu> how do you run thos Hysplit images ?
[23:17] <jcoxon> number10_M0MDB, the cotton should break easily as well
[23:19] <number10_M0MDB> cu tomorrow - hope you recover pico
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[23:21] <RocketBoy> cheers upu - that would be good
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[23:23] <Upu> it will be here : http://ava.upuaut.net/files/launch_recordings/uxaben-15122012.wav in about 15 mins
[23:23] <Upu> just uploading
[23:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon can you make a prediction of when it will be audioable here, i could do with a few hours of sleep? :-)
[23:30] <jcoxon> calculating...
[23:30] <jcoxon> looking at this:
[23:30] <jcoxon> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hysplitout/15171_trj001.gif
[23:30] <jcoxon> the closest approach to denmark will be at 0600
[23:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok does not look good for me
[23:33] <jcoxon> better for oz5agj
[23:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> elevation will be very low
[23:33] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hysplitout/18172_trj001.gif
[23:33] <jcoxon> 120hr prediction
[23:34] <PE2G> Speed in the past half hour was 43 km/u , tracking 038 deg.
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> do you think it would transmit until then?
[23:34] <RocketBoy> humm - wow
[23:35] <RocketBoy> guess its got about 36hours left if i'm v lucky
[23:35] <Upu> upload is done
[23:35] <RocketBoy> jcoxon - are the times UTC at the bottom?
[23:36] <jcoxon> i think so
[23:36] <pa3hdm> goodnight
[23:36] <Upu> good luck anyway hope its still up and being received in the morning, bed time for me night all
[23:37] <jcoxon> night pa3hdm
[23:37] <Lunar_Lander> how does the thing work btw?
[23:37] <Lunar_Lander> night pa3hdm
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[23:37] <Lunar_Lander> can you only give a nearly constant altitude?
[23:37] <RocketBoy> - so it will dip as it goes over land
[23:37] <jcoxon> so hysplit claims
[23:37] <RocketBoy> the tip of norway
[23:37] <jcoxon> its an isobaric model
[23:37] <jcoxon> we need someone listening there
[23:37] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:37] <Lunar_Lander> so it can't be used like the CUSF predictor?
[23:38] <RocketBoy> yeah - lines of constant pressure right?
[23:38] <jcoxon> yeah
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[23:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok will catch a few hours then, lets see later
[23:39] <RocketBoy> so it looks like it will be over norway about 6pm tomorrow
[23:40] <Lunar_Lander> good night brian
[23:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i got the radio turned up at 432.305
[23:40] <RocketBoy> nights
[23:40] <jcoxon> OZ1SKY_Brian, 434.305
[23:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so it should wake me, if i get a signal
[23:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah yes 434.305
[23:41] <jcoxon> anyone staying up to foloow?
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[23:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> eerrrhhh whats this in fldigi "Decoded image packet. Callsign: 9C3-KO, Image ID: 4A, Resolution: 2736x2736, Packet ID: 11510"
[23:42] <griffonbot> Received email: Elmar PD3EM "[UKHAS] dl-fldigi soundcard settings"
[23:42] <PE2G> I don't know how long I can stay awake yet
[23:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> a green packet
[23:42] <jcoxon> OZ1SKY_Brian, haha
[23:42] <craag> I'll be up on the globaltuner probably all night.
[23:42] <RocketBoy> yea
[23:42] <SpeedEvil> presumably a bogus image decode
[23:42] <jcoxon> by chance you've received a ssdv packet in the noise
[23:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol
[23:43] <jcoxon> the random chars have come to gether
[23:43] <jcoxon> its the radio gods talking to you OZ1SKY_Brian
[23:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hehe
[23:43] <jcoxon> right i better sleep
[23:43] <jcoxon> back on tomorrow
[23:44] <Lunar_Lander> night jcoxon
[23:44] <PE2G> goodnight
[23:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> im off too for some hours
[23:45] Nick change: OZ1SKY_Brian -> OZ1SKY_Zzz
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[23:49] <RocketBoy> right - I'll off for some sleep - lets see where we are in the morning
[23:49] <Lunar_Lander> good night RocketBoy
[23:50] <navrac2> goodnight rocketboy
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[23:51] <RocketBoy> cheerzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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[23:54] <craag> Ah the telemetry has changed from being at :00, :15, :30, :45 to :01, :16, :31, etc... I was beginning to think it was GPS synced!
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