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[01:08] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/embed/_F3tRDLQbRA?eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fb3ta.com%2Flinks%2F856637&html5=1 on balloons
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[01:10] <Lunar_Lander__> SpeedEvil, ROFL
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[01:50] <LarryG68> hello
[01:51] <LarryG68> hello earthbreeze ii
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[01:54] <LarryG68> anyone with info on EarthBreeze II
[01:55] <LarryG68> Guess it is eating mud good nite
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[08:44] <mclane> question to the community: has somebody already tried to measure solar uv radiation on a balloon?
[08:46] <x-f> i've seen such projects, yes
[08:49] <mclane> any hint? what kind of detector used; how to "smoothen" the angular response (diffusor)?
[08:52] <x-f> don't know, maybe somebody else can help you on that
[08:52] <x-f> i'm going to try using UV LEDs as sensors, but that's a far future
[08:57] <MrScienceMan> someone used high sensitivity photographic film
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[09:58] <Upu> yikes
[09:58] <Upu> http://www.flickr.com/photos/swiss-strato/7982677478/in/set-72157631527324680/
[10:02] <Darkside> thats a bit close
[10:03] <Upu> nice pictures though
[10:03] <Upu> shame about the container again
[10:03] <Upu> I need to hack mine to stop that
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[10:05] <Upu> FCD Pro Launch
[10:05] <Upu> on batc.tv
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[10:05] <Darkside> thanks
[10:06] <Darkside> forgot about that
[10:06] <Darkside> hah
[10:08] <WillDuckworth> any flights today?
[10:08] <Upu> nope
[10:08] <Upu> just watching FCD Pro launch on www.batc.tv
[10:08] <Darkside> hmm
[10:08] <Darkside> can you undock the streaming video window
[10:08] <Upu> no idea
[10:08] <joph> they're launching it? nice
[10:08] <Darkside> no
[10:09] <Darkside> the funcube dongle pro-plus
[10:09] <Darkside> the new version
[10:09] <Darkside> not the sat
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[10:11] <joph> i see
[10:11] <Darkside> oh here we go
[10:11] <Darkside> elonics going bust
[10:12] <joph> will it be expensive as the last one?
[10:12] <Darkside> joph: watch the damn stream
[10:12] <joph> since the rtl2832 sdr they're to expensive
[10:12] <joph> i can't
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[10:17] <Darkside> hmm
[10:17] <Darkside> so what tuner chip is he using
[10:17] <Upu> dunno
[10:17] <Upu> can ask questions
[10:17] <Darkside> he';ll say later i guess
[10:17] <Darkside> i wonder if its the one thats appearing in the new rtl-sdrs
[10:17] <Darkside> tht seems to be a valid replacement for funcube dongles
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[10:18] <Darkside> lol
[10:18] <Darkside> i like this guy
[10:19] <fsphil> "technology .. doesn't matter if it works" :)
[10:19] <Upu> £104
[10:19] <Upu> oh thats the old one
[10:19] <Darkside> Full coverage of all amateur bands from 136kHz through HF, 6m, 2m, 4m, 2m, 1.25m, 70cm, 33cm, 23cm
[10:19] <Darkside> wat
[10:19] <fsphil> oooooohs
[10:19] <Darkside> 192KHz
[10:19] <Upu> is it ?
[10:19] <Darkside> buybuybuy
[10:20] <Upu> where are you getting that ?
[10:20] <Upu> ioh yeah
[10:20] <Darkside> on teh wait list
[10:20] <fsphil> same
[10:21] <fsphil> that actually looks really fantastic
[10:21] <Upu> can't do sondes
[10:21] <Darkside> thats true
[10:21] <Darkside> it might go out of band a little
[10:21] <Darkside> depends on the filters i guess
[10:22] <Darkside> ooh
[10:22] <Darkside> where the hell did he get sa 2m saw filter
[10:23] <Darkside> shit
[10:23] <Darkside> that'll knock out australian pagers too
[10:23] <Darkside> *nice*
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[10:25] <Darkside> ahh
[10:26] <Upu> lol
[10:29] <Darkside> grr
[10:29] <Darkside> whats the tuner!
[10:29] <Darkside> or tuners*
[10:29] <Upu> can ask them later on
[10:29] <fsphil> at least I get the bias-t now
[10:29] <Darkside> i've also asked about the 2m saw filter
[10:29] <Darkside> as i want one
[10:29] <Darkside> hmm
[10:29] <Darkside> what is it..
[10:30] <Upu> lol
[10:30] <Darkside> i think i know what it might be
[10:31] <Darkside> theres a company i contacted a while back
[10:31] <Darkside> which ahd a tuner with 5 inputs
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[10:32] <Darkside> starts with a C i think
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[10:34] <fsphil> I miss anything? (away for 5 minutes)
[10:34] <Upu> nope
[10:36] <Darkside> Mirics chip
[10:36] <Darkside> i bet
[10:36] <Darkside> Mirics MSi002
[10:36] <Darkside> or a new versio
[10:37] <Upu> lol
[10:37] <fsphil> hah
[10:37] <Upu> thats us two :)
[10:37] <Darkside> that was my question
[10:37] <Darkside> yep
[10:37] <Upu> eh ?
[10:37] <fsphil> he's not answering :p
[10:37] <Darkside> yeah
[10:38] <Upu> oh well :)
[10:38] <Upu> our questions weren't reasonable :)
[10:40] <Darkside> and he still didn't answer
[10:40] <Darkside> grr
[10:42] <fsphil> we'll have to get one and open it :)
[10:42] <Upu> is the bandwidth the same ?
[10:43] <Darkside> no
[10:43] <Darkside> 192khz
[10:43] <Upu> ok
[10:44] <fsphil> that'll be nice on HF
[10:44] <Darkside> i already have that :P
[10:44] <Darkside> but this'll be way cheaper than what i have at th emoment
[10:44] <Darkside> still
[10:44] <Darkside> i get 1/4 the bandwidth for 1/4 the price at HF
[10:45] <Darkside> i'll certaily be buying one :-)
[10:45] <Darkside> and i bet its a mirics chip
[10:46] <Darkside> http://www.mirics.com/fm_files/Mirics_MSi002_June10.pdf
[10:46] <Upu> aye
[10:47] <Upu> jolly good
[10:47] <Darkside> i contacted them ages ago asking for samples
[10:48] <Darkside> as there was a paper a while back using one as a DRM receiver
[10:48] <Darkside> but they never responded
[10:48] <Darkside> well, they did, but told me to fuck off
[10:49] <Darkside> too small text!
[10:49] <fsphil> shame they don't take a certain number of them of the larger runs, to sell to the smaller buyers
[10:50] <Darkside> well theres also the NDA thing
[10:50] <fsphil> ah true. they suck
[10:50] <Darkside> yup
[10:50] <Darkside> man the lunch break is too short
[10:50] <Darkside> im gonna have to run into bath and get a pasty and run back
[10:50] <Darkside> else i'll miss the AMSA-DL presentation
[10:51] <fsphil> ooh is that next?
[10:51] <Darkside> after lunch, yeah
[10:52] <fsphil> this is quite well produced considering
[10:53] <fsphil> it's all being done live
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[10:55] <fsphil> i-squared-c .. is that how it's pronounced?
[10:55] <fsphil> I've always said i-two-c
[10:56] <fsphil> ah, little 2
[10:57] <fsphil> nooooo, pc104
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[10:59] <Darkside> lol
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[11:00] <fsphil> I still don't see the point of flying a phone
[11:01] <Darkside> here we go
[11:02] <fsphil> space is harsher than humans
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[11:03] <Darkside> ooh
[11:03] <Darkside> thats nice
[11:05] <Darkside> oh man
[11:05] <Darkside> take a picture of the screen
[11:05] <Darkside> hahahahahahaha
[11:05] <fsphil> *facepalm*
[11:06] <fsphil> they should use the weight and fly one of the new fcd's instead
[11:06] <fsphil> we could get them to track our payloads :)
[11:06] <Darkside> heh
[11:06] <Darkside> theres already reliable radio boards for these things
[11:07] <Darkside> yeeeeah telnet into a cubesat
[11:07] <Darkside> or ssh into it
[11:07] <Darkside> do want
[11:07] <fsphil> that would be neat
[11:07] <Darkside> still ugh, ssh over AX25
[11:07] <Darkside> slooooow
[11:07] <MrScienceMan> ssh cant really handle drops
[11:07] <Darkside> MrScienceMan: sure it can
[11:07] <MrScienceMan> needs to ack every keystroek
[11:07] <Darkside> mosh :-)
[11:07] <MrScienceMan> yeah mosh is the alternative
[11:07] <fsphil> you just need to tweak the tcp parameters
[11:08] <fsphil> ooh I've not heard of mosh
[11:08] <Darkside> its interesting
[11:08] <Darkside> and somewhat scary
[11:08] <Darkside> like, be connected to a server, close laptop, go home
[11:08] <Darkside> open laptop, and you're still connected
[11:08] <fsphil> hah
[11:08] <fsphil> like a lower level screen
[11:08] <Darkside> its nice when you're on a ridiculously high latency connection though
[11:08] <Darkside> yeah
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[11:09] <Darkside> plantain has used it over dns tunneling over a sat connection
[11:09] <Darkside> which had like 20s latency
[11:10] <MattX> Can somone tell me about Hwoyee 1200g vs Keymont?
[11:10] <MattX> please
[11:11] <MattX> anyone using this ?
[11:11] <Darkside> MattX: most people here use hwoyees
[11:11] <Darkside> as they are cheaper than kaymonts
[11:11] <Darkside> and totex
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[11:11] <MattX> good to hear that :)
[11:12] <BrainDamage> Darkside: http://mosh.mit.edu
[11:12] <Darkside> BrainDamage: i know what mosh is
[11:12] <BrainDamage> nvm then, it just addressed some of your concerns you had with ssh
[11:13] <Darkside> i mentioned mosh already
[11:13] <MattX> also what size parachute should i use to 1200g baloon and ~1400 - 1500g payload ?
[11:13] <Darkside> MattX: look at the ukhas wiki
[11:13] <Darkside> its in there
[11:13] <BrainDamage> oh, I missed it, sorry, you did while I was digging the name >_>
[11:13] <MattX> i'm lookig :)
[11:13] <MattX> but 4 or 5 ft ?
[11:14] <Darkside> theres something in the wiki about it i'm sure
[11:14] <MattX> but from experience ? :)
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[11:19] <MattX> one more thing, should I include ballon weight to payload when calculating parachute diameter ?
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[11:19] <Darkside> MattX: include a bit of it
[11:19] <Darkside> as you could possibly have balloon fragments
[11:19] <MattX> yes, but how much ?
[11:19] <Darkside> depends
[11:19] <MattX> 100g ? 200? 500 ?
[11:19] <Darkside> sometimes you get a clean burst, sometimes you get an unclean burst
[11:19] <MattX> lets say 1200g baloon
[11:20] <MattX> 1400 payload
[11:20] <Darkside> work it out
[11:20] <Darkside> see what descent rates you'll get with different amount sof balloon left
[11:20] <Darkside> are those descent rates acceptable
[11:20] <MattX> and lets say 4ft parachute, it gives around 5.3 m/s
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[11:20] <MattX> is that ok ?
[11:20] <Darkside> sure
[11:20] <MattX> thanks :)
[11:20] <Darkside> 5ms is the 'normal' descent rate
[11:21] <MattX> nice thanks a lot :)
[11:21] <PhilVeale> so the strangest thing just happened....I was using my phone to read facebook, and I accidentally swiped left too hard and switched tabs by accident...taking me to spacenear.us because I'd had that open a couple of weeks ago.
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[11:21] <PhilVeale> then I see a baloon course plotted...landing at my exact location
[11:21] <PhilVeale> I think, wtf
[11:21] <Darkside> PhilVeale: lol
[11:21] <PhilVeale> But it seems it landed 2 days ago
[11:21] <PhilVeale> even more freaky is the chase car logo looks just like my car
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[11:22] <fsphil> hah
[11:22] <PhilVeale> was the package from two days ago recovered or did it land in the sea ?
[11:22] <fsphil> we're not really out to get you :)
[11:23] <PhilVeale> I'm less than a mile away from the marker. So freaky.
[11:23] <fsphil> which payload?
[11:23] <PhilVeale> XABEN1
[11:24] <Darkside> oh
[11:24] <Darkside> thats likely steve testing a payload
[11:24] <Darkside> and not having the old payload track removed
[11:25] <Darkside> goddamnit i want to go work at surrey satellite
[11:25] <fsphil> ask him :)
[11:26] <Darkside> lol
[11:26] <Darkside> i need to finish my own PhD first
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[11:26] <fsphil> thinking the batc.tv chat window needs a separate box for callsign
[11:26] <fsphil> everyone's struggling with it
[11:26] <Darkside> i think its an IRC backend
[11:27] <fsphil> it does seem so
[11:27] <fsphil> or at least inspirsed by
[11:28] <Darkside> i do like this guy
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[11:31] <Darkside> lol
[11:31] <fsphil> nice
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[11:31] <Darkside> ok
[11:31] <Darkside> lunchtime
[11:31] <fsphil> indeed
[11:33] <fsphil> raspberry pi demo at the end
[11:33] <Darkside> mm
[11:34] <Darkside> ok, better get moving if i want to get back before the AMSAT_DL presentation
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[11:53] <cuddykid> so many people have asked me to do a step by step guide& I will not be pointing them towards J*** though
[11:56] <fsphil> sadly there are probably some who find it themselves
[11:57] <fsphil> is it calming down any yet cuddykid?
[11:58] <cuddykid> fsphil: gradually yep
[11:58] <cuddykid> :)
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[12:06] <Darkside> step by step guys for this kind of thing are a bit iffy
[12:07] <cuddykid> agree
[12:07] <Darkside> as you really want people to learn
[12:07] <cuddykid> yep
[12:07] <Darkside> not just follow instructions
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[12:07] <cuddykid> I say to the people, they really need to understand how some of the code works so they're able to fix/improve things
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[12:08] <Darkside> they really need to understand how code works in general
[12:08] <Darkside> and write their own
[12:08] <Darkside> etc
[12:14] <fsphil> sadly I have to go, will watch the archive
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[12:53] <Upu> A-Team again cuddykid ? :)
[12:54] <cuddykid> lol
[12:54] <cuddykid> Upu: is this regarding liam?
[12:54] <Upu> yeah
[12:54] <cuddykid> ah
[12:55] <Darkside> you took it on?
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[12:55] <Upu> that board still holding up ?
[12:55] <cuddykid> seems to entail helping out a local school
[12:55] <cuddykid> quite different to what he posted on the mailing list
[12:55] <cuddykid> Upu: yep - very well :D
[12:55] <cuddykid> Darkside: yeah - october time
[12:56] <Upu> Going to have to call you RocketboyJnr
[12:56] <cuddykid> lol
[12:56] <cuddykid> I was going to do a launch with RocketBoy on Mon
[12:56] <daveake> MartiniHAB. Any time any place anywhere
[12:57] <Upu> lol
[12:57] <cuddykid> hence the mailing list post for launch announcement
[12:57] <cuddykid> daveake: haha
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[12:58] <cuddykid> Upu: they want to make their own tracker so at some point I'll be placing an order with you
[12:58] <Upu> no problems
[13:00] <Darkside> ok im gonna skip this amsat talk
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[13:02] <daveake> Upu According to the conf schedule Phil and I only have 20 mins
[13:02] <Upu> James did that
[13:02] <Upu> how long do you need ?
[13:02] <daveake> Well we have a talk each and a demo, so 30 really
[13:02] <Darkside> you can take 10 of my monutes
[13:02] <Darkside> minutes
[13:02] <Darkside> i think my talk is goign to be mostly demo
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[13:04] <daveake> I've booked my train now
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[13:05] <Darkside> k
[13:05] <Darkside> i booked mine last night
[13:05] <Darkside> training out at 9:30pm :(
[13:05] <daveake> Fairly late return train to plenty of time for all the beers I'm owed
[13:07] <Randomskk> hehe
[13:07] <Randomskk> yes I'm looking forwards to afterwards
[13:08] <Upu> I suspect its most likely James can't add up
[13:08] <Upu> just assume you have 30 mins
[13:08] <daveake> I will :)
[13:20] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] Help needed with RFM22"
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[13:52] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] Help needed with RFM22"
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[14:33] <Hix_> GHOST Hix
[14:33] <Hix_> oops!
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[15:04] <fsphil> I ain't afraid of no Hix
[15:04] <Hix> huh?
[15:04] <Hix> ahhh
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[15:04] <Hix> :D
[15:04] <fsphil> yea I was a bit late with that
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[15:54] <Lunar_Lander__> hello
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[16:23] <griffonbot> Received email: "Re: [UKHAS] Help needed with RFM22"
[16:32] <Upu> abacabb
[16:32] <Upu> free password pls take one
[16:33] <Randomskk> good password, don't mind if I do
[16:33] <Upu> its my throw away one
[16:34] <Upu> bonus points if you know what it actually is
[16:34] <Randomskk> the mortal kombat cheat?
[16:34] <Upu> bingo
[16:35] Action: Randomskk bleeds on upu
[16:35] <Upu> thats the one
[16:35] <Lunar_Lander__> hi Upu got my message?
[16:35] <Upu> hi Lunar_Lander
[16:35] <Upu> sure
[16:35] <Upu> send them on
[16:36] <Randomskk> I want to put up a dipole for 80m
[16:36] <Randomskk> anyone done that?
[16:36] <Randomskk> it's turning out to be far more hassle than I hoped
[16:37] <Randomskk> I mean, I have 40m of thin wire, it seems unfair that that isn't quite enough
[16:37] <Randomskk> I also only have 17m or so of rg58, no balanced feeder and no balun.
[16:39] <G0DJA> 2 things Randomskk - 1 don't worry if slightly small, wont make a lot of difference because 2. Unless you get it to at least a 1/4 wave above ground the impedance will not be either 50 or 75 ohms anyway
[16:39] <Randomskk> hm yes 1/4 wave above ground is unlikely
[16:40] <G0DJA> If using coax. use a tuner to fool the radio anyway
[16:40] <Randomskk> don't have a tuner either
[16:40] <Randomskk> >_>
[16:40] <Randomskk> or a real SWR meter. my radio has one built in, though...
[16:41] <Randomskk> kinda doing this whole thing on a bit of a wing and a prayer
[16:41] <G0DJA> Even if you do get the dipole to 1/4 wave above ground it will still be a 'cloud warmer' as it will have a lot of Near Vertical Incident Skywave (NVIS) radiation pattern
[16:41] <Randomskk> a good point that I hadn't considered
[16:41] <Randomskk> isn't that typical with any dipole though?
[16:41] <Randomskk> I mean, sure, a huge beam on a tall mast on a rotator would be sweet
[16:42] <G0DJA> On the lower bands, unless you have a 160M high tower, yes
[16:42] <G0DJA> 10, 12 and 15 are a bit more practicable
[16:43] <Hix> proprt go pro flight footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RArofHji8CU&feature=player_embedded
[16:43] <Randomskk> perhaps I'd be better off saying I have a radio, 100W of potential TX power, 17m of RG58, 50m of W103, a few hundred metres of thin wire, not really enough connectors, no tuner, no balun and a friend up near birmingham with an 80m setup
[16:43] <Hix> *proper
[16:43] <G0DJA> 20M boarderline and 30M, unless you have a big tower, don't worry too much as the impedance going to be wierd anyway
[16:45] <G0DJA> Have you considered an endfed something like this? http://www.rsars.org.uk/ELIBRARY/ANTENNAS%20DOCS/160-80-40%20m%20End%20Fed%20Antenna%20G0CSK%20iss%201.3.pdf
[16:45] <Randomskk> that looks like it'd be nice if I was going for a permanent setup
[16:45] <G0DJA> Unless you are in Poland, should be able to get to Brum on a short loaded vertical or low endfed
[16:46] <Randomskk> the issue mainly is that I don't have any traps or insulators or easy ways of getting wire to various points on the house
[16:46] <G0DJA> Even a sort of dipole not too low to ground (say gutter on a two storey house) should work
[16:46] <Randomskk> and I want something for this evening ideally. or perhaps sometime soon.
[16:46] <Randomskk> and I have 40m length of garden to play with
[16:46] <G0DJA> Sloping dipole?
[16:47] <G0DJA> Use plastic rings from 4 packs as end insulators
[16:47] <Randomskk> is that part important?
[16:47] <Randomskk> I was probably going to tie the wire to some twine or something
[16:48] <G0DJA> sloper means only need a connection at house end - perhaps some polyporop rope round the top of one of the downpipes?
[16:48] <Randomskk> oh huh. how does that then connect to the radio?
[16:48] <G0DJA> If not a long term installation can get away with bit of a botch job
[16:49] <G0DJA> Well, you will nned a centre insulator and a way to get coax back to the house
[16:49] <G0DJA> How about a 'V' ?
[16:49] <Randomskk> was considering a V but I don't really have a very tall mast
[16:49] <Randomskk> there's a tree but it's at best 5m
[16:50] <G0DJA> Ends of each side of the dipole to far corners, feed point at high level next to the house and coax back in through air brick or slightly open window
[16:50] <Randomskk> I'd be happy enough physically sitting in the garden under the feedpoint
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[16:50] <G0DJA> Since this is a 'low' antenna guttering height will do
[16:50] <Randomskk> hm
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[16:51] <Randomskk> that could work. what do you think about the balun thing?
[16:51] <G0DJA> V ends slope down to fence height
[16:51] <G0DJA> so, sloping V
[16:51] <G0DJA> Will be slightly directional in direction of V but if it's only Brum then proibably wont matter much
[16:52] <G0DJA> If its a temp lash up wouldn't bother
[16:52] <G0DJA> Plus, the balun will be wound for a particular impenance and we've already agreed that a low dipole won't be at a particular impedance
[16:53] <Randomskk> neat. well that solves the balun problem nicely
[16:53] <G0DJA> If worried about unbalanced current on outer of coax put a few turns of the coax into a circle near the feed point
[16:54] <G0DJA> That should act as a choke to braid current
[16:54] <G0DJA> Where abouts are you?
[16:54] <Randomskk> weybridge, south-west of london, just inside the m25.
[16:55] <G0DJA> A few mates and I used to have a net on 80M on a Sunday morning. People from Scotland the Hertfordshire used to take part and I was 1st in Brum then moved to Wakefield and not a lot of difference in signals
[16:55] <G0DJA> to Hertfordshire
[16:56] <Randomskk> cool
[16:56] <G0DJA> Used a basic half wave or end fed wire most of the time
[16:56] <G0DJA> Throw something up and give it a go
[16:57] <Randomskk> will do
[16:57] <Randomskk> thanks for your help!
[16:57] <G0DJA> Let me know how you get on
[16:57] <Randomskk> sure thing
[16:58] <G0DJA> Might even trhrow something up and listen for you
[16:59] <G0DJA> I could use the feeder from the 2M/70cm vertical that I just took down before the bracket broke!
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[17:01] <Lunar_Lander__> cu later!
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[17:37] <cuddykid> going to give one of these 'Pawan' balloons a go in October
[17:37] <cuddykid> 1200G with a T size cylinder should work well hopefully
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[18:11] <bertrik> costyn: what kind of antenna do you use on your balloon?
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[18:19] <eroomde> poor hix
[18:19] <eroomde> there are as many hix's as there are hix's restaurants
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[18:33] <daveake> Only 10
[18:33] <daveake> In hixadecimal
[18:52] <Hix_> sorry, was trying to set the startup script in XChat but something kept crashing it
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[18:59] <Lunar_Lander__> back on station
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[21:18] <Laurenceb_> quiet in here
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[21:22] <Lunar_Lander__> yeah
[21:22] <Lunar_Lander__> hello Elmar_PD3EM
[21:22] <Elmar_PD3EM> Good evening all!
[21:23] <Elmar_PD3EM> How are you Lunar_Lander__ ?
[21:27] <Elmar_PD3EM> is everyone already asleep? ;-)
[21:28] <Lunar_Lander__> xD
[21:28] <Lunar_Lander__> I am good thanks and oyu?
[21:28] <Lunar_Lander__> you?
[21:28] <Elmar_PD3EM> I'm doing fine tnx
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[21:30] <Elmar_PD3EM_> my connection just had a reset...
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander__> no problem
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander__> what are you up to?
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[21:31] <Elmar_PD3EM_> just booked a night boat to the UK for next Friday ;-)
[21:31] <Lunar_Lander__> cool!
[21:32] <Elmar_PD3EM_> yep!
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[21:34] Nick change: Elmar_PD3EM_ -> Elmar_PD3EM
[21:34] <Elmar_PD3EM> Just one crazy day to London ;-) Want to see how all those UKHAS members are IRL ;-)
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[21:45] <Upu> hey Elmar_PD3EM
[21:45] <Upu> great to hear you can make it
[21:47] <Elmar_PD3EM> hi Upu
[21:47] <Elmar_PD3EM> yeah, indeed great! Looking forward to it!
[21:47] <Upu> Going to be a busy day
[21:47] <Upu> Where are you staying in London ?
[21:48] <Elmar_PD3EM> haha! it should indeed be a busy day
[21:48] <Elmar_PD3EM> I need to take the boat back Saturday night...
[21:48] <Elmar_PD3EM> so... no stay in London :-(
[21:49] <Upu> What are you doing Friday night ?
[21:49] <Elmar_PD3EM> I'll be on the ferry to Harwich
[21:49] <Elmar_PD3EM> arrive at 6:30 and take the train to London
[21:49] <Upu> ouch
[21:50] <Upu> what time do you set off ?
[21:50] <Elmar_PD3EM> about 22:30 from Hook of Holland
[21:50] <Upu> oh you can sleep on the boat ?
[21:50] <Elmar_PD3EM> yep, I have a cabin
[21:51] <Upu> oh thats ok then :)
[21:51] <Upu> and what time do you have to leave London ?
[21:51] <Elmar_PD3EM> I can't take any days off from work... so this was the only option
[21:51] <Elmar_PD3EM> I'll have to check the train schedule for that
[21:51] <Upu> well its great you're making the effort to come across
[21:52] <Upu> really is euro/international this year
[21:52] <Elmar_PD3EM> thats grat!
[21:52] <Lunar_Lander__> Elmar_PD3EM, do you have a minute?
[21:52] <Elmar_PD3EM> great
[21:52] <Elmar_PD3EM> one moment LL
[21:52] <Elmar_PD3EM> we might call it a world Conference ;-)
[21:53] <Upu> indeed
[21:53] <Upu> its getting there
[21:53] <Upu> we have Dan coming from the US
[21:53] <Lunar_Lander__> XD
[21:53] <Upu> Darkside is coming from Oz*
[21:53] <Elmar_PD3EM> yeah! great!!!
[21:53] <Upu> *he's already here but there you go
[21:53] <Elmar_PD3EM> realy looking forward seeing you all!
[21:54] <Upu> yup
[21:57] <Elmar_PD3EM> Darkside is making haoliday in the UK?
[21:57] <Upu> I think its something to do with his University
[21:58] <Elmar_PD3EM> well... sounds nice whe he can visit the UK via his University
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[22:06] <Elmar_PD3EM> I'll have to get some £ before Friday ;-)
[22:08] <Elmar_PD3EM> Why isn't the UK using the ¬...? That would have been a lot easier ;-)
[22:09] <Upu> because Greece
[22:09] <Upu> :)
[22:10] <Elmar_PD3EM> LOL Upu
[22:10] <Elmar_PD3EM> I've bought enough Gyros to buy a nice Greek island
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[22:11] <Elmar_PD3EM> thats a nice one ^^
[22:12] <Elmar_PD3EM> Someone has left... ;-)
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[22:24] <Lunar_Lander__> yea
[22:25] <Lunar_Lander__> I don't know any more about my code
[22:25] <Lunar_Lander__> I hope I don't have to die coding
[22:25] <Elmar_PD3EM> haha... I don't think so... ;-)
[22:26] <Elmar_PD3EM> maybe share it on github or pastbin and have someone take a look at it
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[22:52] <Randomskk> hmm
[22:52] <Randomskk> 1:infty SWR over the entire band
[22:52] <Randomskk> that's not great
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander__> Elmar_PD3EM, one moment
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander__> Elmar_PD3EM, https://github.com/WinzenFlyer/Oernen-II-Stratosphere-Science-Platform
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[23:01] <eroomde> quiet batpeople
[23:05] <Laurenceb_> hhuh
[23:05] <Laurenceb_> can anyone link me some theory on how to minimise peak to average power in OFDM?
[23:05] <Laurenceb_> thought someone here might know
[23:06] <eroomde> not now
[23:06] <eroomde> will be in some masters notes
[23:06] <Laurenceb_> :P
[23:07] <Laurenceb_> this is the disadvantage of being a physics grad
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[23:09] <eroomde> proakis has all
[23:09] <eroomde> try him 1st
[23:10] <Laurenceb_> ah thats
[23:10] <Laurenceb_> will grab from library
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[23:30] <Lunar_Lander__> XD
[23:30] <Lunar_Lander__> düdülüdüt
[23:31] <Lunar_Lander__> it's so hilarious watching someone playing train simulator on youtube who has no idea how to drive a train
[23:31] <Laurenceb_> eroomde: i have carriers only
[23:31] <Laurenceb_> i think i can solve this with a quick matlab search script
[23:31] <Laurenceb_> for optimum phasing
[23:31] <Laurenceb_> <- lazy
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