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[02:17] <Guest96581> hi all
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[02:24] <DrLuke> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9nqjjy6fU1rf8ml7o1_500.jpg
[02:24] <DrLuke> and we all know it's true
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[06:22] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: On the train to Didcot for the launch of CLOUD + BEAR. #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/242145489070481409]
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[07:48] <Upu> morning
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[07:52] <MrScienceMan> morning
[07:52] <kt5tk-7> Good morning from WA
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[07:55] <eroomde> morning kt5tk-7
[07:56] <eroomde> from OX
[07:56] <eroomde> hmm now that's the city, abreviations are for states
[07:56] <eroomde> I don;t think it translates v well
[07:56] <eroomde> UK anyway
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[08:02] <kt5tk-7> NP. I had to get used to it too. Just touring through Washington State for vacation. http://tkrahn.dyndns.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=5031
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[08:04] <kt5tk-7> Will be on a cruise to Alaska next week. Have a pico in my luggage. If we find helium we'll launch.
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[08:07] <eroomde> kt5tk-7: nice
[08:07] <eroomde> polar circumnavigation?
[08:08] <kt5tk-7> It's my first pico, so no idea how far it'll go.
[08:09] <kt5tk-7> We have tracking receivers, but there will be not many listeners I guess
[08:10] <kt5tk-7> I hope to get some APRS packets to 2 igates that are ~ 100 miles north in Canada.
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[08:12] <kt5tk-7> Best chance will be to launch from Juneau because there is a party store that's supposed to fill mylar balloons.
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[08:16] <jcoxon> morning all
[08:16] <M0UPU_Upu> morning
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[08:25] <Darkside> morning
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[08:57] <costyn> howdy
[08:57] <costyn> gawd... arduino ide is such garbage
[08:58] <costyn> giving me nice exceptions when trying to open an old pre arduino 1.0 file
[08:58] <Darkside> yep
[08:59] <Darkside> well
[08:59] <Darkside> they changed things
[08:59] <Darkside> you need to use arduino.h, instead of WProgrm
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[08:59] <Darkside> at least they changed the file extention now
[08:59] <costyn> yea .ino
[08:59] <Darkside> yep
[08:59] <Darkside> instead of the same as procesing
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[09:00] <costyn> getting java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 0 when trying to open a file
[09:01] <Darkside> hahahaha
[09:01] <Darkside> yes
[09:01] <Darkside> that is a pain
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[09:04] <costyn> resorted to opening file in text editor, then copy pasting in ide and then saving :)
[09:04] <costyn> any idea how to delete a repository on github?
[09:05] <M0UPU_Upu> via the website
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[09:06] <costyn> I managed to rename it
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[09:09] <M0UPU_Upu> http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?id=768
[09:09] <M0UPU_Upu> stream is up
[09:10] <Darkside> yeeeep
[09:10] <Darkside> ok to work
[09:12] <M0UPU_Upu> haha
[09:12] <M0UPU_Upu> behold the H2 regulator of doom
[09:13] <M0UPU_Upu> is it me or is Mark standing back from that ?
[09:18] Action: costyn missed the reg of doom :)
[09:18] <M0UPU_Upu> its on the cylinder
[09:19] <costyn> bit hard to see :)
[09:32] <G7PMO_Kev> nice teddy :)
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[09:33] <daveake> :)
[09:34] <M0UPU_Upu> http://i.imgur.com/o2Cy9.jpg
[09:35] <Darkside> niiiice
[09:35] <daveake> lassen in cloud has a lok
[09:35] <daveake> lock
[09:35] <daveake> my c key is fuked
[09:35] <M0UPU_Upu> wow
[09:35] <M0UPU_Upu> its still 2012 is it ok ?
[09:35] <daveake> yeah, wonders will never ease
[09:35] <daveake> c
[09:36] <M0UPU_Upu> if I didn't know better I'd say you're landing near the Top Gear test track
[09:37] <M0UPU_Upu> in fact I think it is the Top Gear test track
[09:38] <M0UPU_Upu> assuming 34km burst
[09:39] <costyn> hey is that Darkside assisting daveake?
[09:39] <M0UPU_Upu> it is
[09:39] <costyn> just now realized :)
[09:41] <daveake> see stream
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[09:42] <LukeWal> g'day :)
[09:45] <fsphil> balls
[09:45] <M0UPU_Upu> sup ?
[09:45] <fsphil> on the webcam ... ball shaped payload :)
[09:46] <M0UPU_Upu> oh :)
[09:46] <fsphil> I'm waiting until I see the balloon inflating before leaving
[09:47] <daveake> good move
[09:51] <fsphil> ta da
[09:51] <daveake> see the ball?
[09:51] <mclane> how do they connect the antenna rods?
[09:52] <M0UPU_Upu> solder
[09:52] <LukeWal> what is the ball, in real life I mean how do you get polyst' balls like that? :)
[09:52] <fsphil> ebay ;)
[09:52] <M0UPU_Upu> buy them from ebay
[09:52] <mclane> in the video, they plug them in somehow
[09:52] <M0UPU_Upu> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1311&_nkw=polystyrene+balls&_sacat=0
[09:52] <fsphil> I think you just saw them place the straws over the wires mclane
[09:52] <fsphil> the wires where already there
[09:52] <mclane> ah, ok
[09:53] <mclane> so the straws keep the wire in place
[09:53] <fsphil> yes, otherwise they'd get twisted and tangled during the flight
[09:53] <fsphil> it's a good looking payload actually
[09:53] <fsphil> not sure about the colour though
[09:53] <mclane> what camera is inside?
[09:54] <daveake> a490
[09:54] <M0UPU_Upu> Live stream on http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?id=768 if you're not already aware of it
[09:54] <LukeWal> UPU - oh wow, so you do, you can get anything on ebay :)
[09:54] <fsphil> aannyytthhiinngg
[09:54] <M0UPU_Upu> indeed
[09:55] <M0UPU_Upu> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=anything&_sacat=0
[09:56] <LukeWal> When the first item was "Gloria Estefan" I wondered what you had made me search for :)
[09:56] Nick change: LukeWal -> G7PMO_Kev_downst
[09:59] <Darkside> internet is a bit iffy
[09:59] <Darkside> stram going down for a bit
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[10:06] <Pudding> Major Tom?
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[10:09] <daveake> hey pud
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[10:11] <G0DJA> Predictions say Cloud and Bear will be heading towards the offices of the Co I work for
[10:11] <costyn> hrm.. my voltage dividier to an analog pin is reading 2.82v and my multimeter is reading 2.92v (it is powered from VCC at the moment) should I modify the resistor values so that it matches?
[10:12] <daveake> We're expecting near Midhurst
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[10:13] <fsphil> better to adjust in code costyn
[10:13] <G0DJA> Our Co offices are in Burgess Hill
[10:13] <costyn> fsphil: sorry thats what I meant, adjust the resistor values in the code
[10:14] <costyn> i measured the actual resistor values and adjusted the code to that, but that didn't help
[10:15] <G0DJA> How accurate is the voltmeter?
[10:16] <gonzo_> the launch of cloud/bear is on today then?
[10:16] <gonzo_> (I only get the digest from the group mail, so only find out the day after!)
[10:16] <daveake> ISH
[10:16] <G0DJA> Seems so gonzo - they had streaming video from site for a time
[10:16] <daveake> Yeah, we'll be filling soon
[10:16] <gonzo_> the tv is just an extra niceyt
[10:17] <gonzo_> our attempt failed too. As we were too treebound to get the WLAN to work
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[10:18] <G0DJA> Anyone got a dial reading for either transmitter yet or arn't they powered up yet?
[10:18] <costyn> G0DJA: pretty good, 3 figures after the decimal. but it's not a fancy brand or anything
[10:18] <G0DJA> That's the precision costyn - do you know if it is accurate to 0.01 of a volt?
[10:19] <costyn> VCC wasn't 3.3v but 3.4v, so i adjusted that and now it's accurate enough
[10:19] <costyn> G0DJA: yes it is that precise, 0.001v
[10:19] <G0DJA> OK
[10:19] <G0DJA> What standard do you check it against?
[10:20] <costyn> G0DJA: well i have no other reference, so I have to assume the voltmeter is accurate
[10:20] <G0DJA> We used to get ours done by an NPL lab - cost quite a bit even for an AVO
[10:20] <G0DJA> AH! Oh dear
[10:20] <costyn> G0DJA: well i'm only a hobbyist, not going to get my multimeter callibrated :)
[10:21] <costyn> G0DJA: it's "good enough"
[10:21] <G0DJA> So, you're not really sure that the voltmeter is telling you the real voltage. But maybe not important if all the measurements are relative to each other and not to some other scale of measurement like temperature etc
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[10:21] <costyn> yea
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[10:22] <costyn> anyays, I'll checkagain when I actually power the uC through RAW\
[10:23] <G0DJA> The physists tell me that the act of measuring changes the value anyway :-)
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[10:24] <costyn> heheheh
[10:24] <merv> l
[10:25] <costyn> anyways, sure glad I got this multimeter with auto-ranging, makes everything easier
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[10:28] <merv> Hi G0DJA Burgess Hill is only 5 miles from me
[10:29] <G0DJA> I'll be down there in October merv
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[10:30] <G0DJA> I'll take a 70cm handie with me next time - or do you have 70MHz?
[10:30] <merv> yes 70cm
[10:31] <merv> 70cm repeather in hh
[10:31] <G0DJA> OK - I'll try to remember the Woxun for 70cm next time I'm in the area
[10:31] <G0DJA> Shouldn't need a repeater for that didtance - HI
[10:32] <G0DJA> distance - even
[10:32] <merv> GB3HY
[10:32] <mclane> some progress with cloud/bear?
[10:32] <merv> true np then
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[10:36] <M0UPU_Upu> Stream is back
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[10:40] <merv> great to see the launch preparations live.
[10:41] <fsphil> I'm picking up all sorts of tips :)
[10:42] <M0UPU_Upu> "1/ Bring an Australian"
[10:42] <daveake> filling soon
[10:42] <fsphil> I see a balloon
[10:42] <M0UPU_Upu> I see a Julie
[10:42] <fsphil> lol
[10:42] <M0UPU_Upu> optimistic Mark
[10:43] <fsphil> I hope he's practiced
[10:43] <M0UPU_Upu> that cylinder is smaller than the other big red one
[10:43] <fsphil> "That's not a cylinder"
[10:44] <daveake> that's darkside's comfort blanket
[10:44] <M0UPU_Upu> yay QRM everywhere
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[10:45] <fsphil> time for your examination
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[10:47] <M0UPU_Upu> weighing the bottle for neck lift
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[10:52] <M0UPU_Upu> ok inflating
[10:53] <LazyLeopard> Two balloons, or one with two payloads? (Assume 2 balloons as two predictions on tracker...) Which one going first?
[10:55] <M0UPU_Upu> 1 balloon 2 payloads
[10:55] <M0UPU_Upu> BEAR and CLOUD
[10:55] <LazyLeopard> Right. Both launching at same time then. ;)
[10:55] <M0UPU_Upu> guess which one this is : http://i.imgur.com/o2Cy9.jpg
[10:55] <LazyLeopard> So pick one. ;)
[10:56] Action: LazyLeopard would feel a bit of a fool listening on the frequency of one that hadn't been launched when the other was in the air. ;)
[10:56] <G7PMO_Kev_down> I have a second rx, but found out this morning that it doesn do SSB, so I can't be greedy and track both :)
[10:57] Nick change: LazyLeopard -> LazyL_M0LEP
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[11:05] <G7PMO_Kev> Guys, is the frequency shift set for bear correct? The email says 450, but autoconfig in dl-fldigi gives me 23?
[11:05] <M0UPU_Upu> you'll have to manually override it
[11:05] <M0UPU_Upu> the older version of dl-fldigi doesn't like "non standard" shifts
[11:06] <M0UPU_Upu> there is a new version out very soon that fixes that
[11:06] <G7PMO_Kev> ahhh, ok
[11:06] <M0UPU_Upu> You on Windows ?
[11:06] <G7PMO_Kev> yup
[11:06] <M0UPU_Upu> http://ava.upuaut.net/files/dl-fldigi-3.21.43_setup.exe
[11:06] <costyn> "real soon now"? :)
[11:06] <M0UPU_Upu> thats beta
[11:07] <costyn> ah
[11:07] <Andy-g0poy> the camera has got moved...
[11:07] <M0UPU_Upu> yeah it will be back shortly
[11:08] <G0DJA> HAB v48 gives a 500hz shift on auto config for Bear here
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[11:12] <G7PMO_Kev> yea I now get 500hz to, not 450 as per the email?
[11:12] <merv> reminde me wha are the green and blue circles?
[11:12] <M0UPU_Upu> its 500
[11:12] <G7PMO_Kev> cloud correctly gives me 425
[11:13] <G7PMO_Kev> merv - radio horizon and 5 deg above horizon from memory of when I asked the Q 2 days ago :)
[11:13] <G0DJA> Sorry - just checked = V43 here not 48 as I said before
[11:13] <merv> ah i remember seeing that but didnt make a note thanks kev
[11:14] <G0DJA> I'll have to make it 500 again
[11:14] <G7PMO_Kev> merv - ie you should be able to easily recieve if you are inside the green circle, might be able to recieve if your in the blue circle, and have a lower chance of recieving if your outside the blue - that my interpritation anyway :)
[11:14] <merv> ta
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[11:15] <M0UPU_Upu> lol just had a drama, the wife went to turn the central heating on and a big spiders leg poked out of the gap on the thermostat
[11:16] <M0UPU_Upu> ok looks like its about to go up
[11:16] <merv> yippee
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[11:17] <G0DJA> off out - good luck
[11:17] <M0UPU_Upu> and away
[11:17] <merv> up up and away then
[11:19] <LazyL_M0LEP> 434.071
[11:21] <gonzo_> wow signals already from poole!
[11:23] <G4DPZ> receiving bear in the west midlands, no decode yet
[11:23] <navrac_work> nothing here yet - not suprising really
[11:23] <M0UPU_Upu> oh good thought BEAR wasn't working
[11:23] <G7PMO_Kev> I think Bear is 450 width. 500hz looks too wide?
[11:24] <M0UPU_Upu> it was 500 in a warm room
[11:24] <G7PMO_Kev> Ok, Im getting valid decodes of bear at 450 now
[11:25] <M0UPU_Upu> what frequency and why isn't it upload ?
[11:25] <LazyL_M0LEP> G7PMO_Kev: Are you set to upload?
[11:25] <G7PMO_Kev> 434.1993
[11:25] <Andy-g0poy> receiving both 434.0722 and 434.2015 cloud is better signal at the moment
[11:25] <G7PMO_Kev> it says "uploaded payload telem sucsesfully"?
[11:25] <M0UPU_Upu> BEAR ?
[11:25] <G7PMO_Kev> yes Bear
[11:26] <M0UPU_Upu> ta
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[11:27] <G7PMO_Kev> and another green line...
[11:28] <M0UPU_Upu> keep on it
[11:28] <M0UPU_Upu> I'll see if I can get someone to check the server
[11:28] <G7PMO_Kev> ta
[11:28] <navrac_work> cloud just appearing now
[11:29] <LazyL_M0LEP> In logtail it's saying gps_lock false for BEAR
[11:29] <Darkside> yep
[11:29] <Darkside> thats because it hasnt got lock
[11:29] <LazyL_M0LEP> ;)
[11:29] <Darkside> people please track CLOUD
[11:30] <navrac_work> a lot of local qrm on cloud atm
[11:30] <LazyL_M0LEP> ...and why it's not reporting on the tracker, of course.
[11:31] <Andy-g0poy> i've switched back to cloud
[11:31] <G7PMO_Kev> right, switched to cloud
[11:32] <LazyL_M0LEP> Darkside: Someone is presumably going to continue to monitor BEAR in case?
[11:33] <LazyL_M0LEP> (...or doesn't it matter at all?)
[11:33] <Darkside> yes
[11:33] <Darkside> me
[11:33] <G7PMO_Kev> upu - still got the red / green line bug in this version of dl-fldigi
[11:33] <M0UPU_Upu> ok
[11:33] <LazyL_M0LEP> Fine ;)
[11:33] <Andy-g0poy> GPS 51.48, -1.27 cloud, 51.5 -1.38 bear, quite a difference
[11:34] <LazyL_M0LEP> Andy-g0poy: Yeah. BEAR has not got GPS lock. ;)
[11:35] <costyn> M0UPU_Upu: sorry quick question on the side: fired up one of your gpses and took it outside for the first time. How long should it take to download almanac etc?
[11:37] <navrac_work> depends on the signal strength - can take a couple of mins with the small aerial
[11:37] <G7PMO_Kev> I seem to be getting gobledegouk from cloud, even though I have a strong signal?
[11:38] <merv> bugger i have to go train to catch. I willleave
[11:38] <navrac_work> clear reads here - local interference?
[11:38] <LazyL_M0LEP> G7PMO_Kev: Make sure you're USB and the little Rv button hasn't been ticked.
[11:38] <LazyL_M0LEP> It's bottom right under the waterfall.
[11:39] <G7PMO_Kev> rv not ticked, radio and dl-fldigi both say usb
[11:39] <G7PMO_Kev> 434.0725
[11:39] <G7PMO_Kev> rtty 50 / 425
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[11:39] <navrac_work> lsb?
[11:39] <navrac_work> or usb?
[11:39] <Andy-g0poy> usb
[11:39] <costyn> navrac_work: thx... It is a sarantel helix; i gave it a few minutes. will debug further
[11:39] <G7PMO_Kev> radio and dl-fl say usb
[11:40] <LazyL_M0LEP> ...and you used Autoconfigure again when you switched to CLOUD?
[11:40] <navrac_work> have you used autoconfigure - on the rtty settings should be 50 baud 7 bits no parity 2 stop
[11:40] <G7PMO_Kev> yup, I just did downlaod data, selected cloud and autoconfiged again
[11:40] <LazyL_M0LEP> If so, check Configure->Modems->RTTY
[11:41] <G7PMO_Kev> 425, 50, 7, none, 2
[11:41] <cuddykid> is this a hydrogen one?
[11:41] <Andy-g0poy> I just run two fldigis, one set to each payload
[11:42] <navrac_work> cuddykid - think so
[11:42] <G7PMO_Kev> I have the signal, clear as day, just teh decoding doesnt seem to be working...
[11:42] <LazyL_M0LEP> G7PMO_Kev: Yet you were decoding BEAR OK?
[11:42] <cuddykid> navrac_work: good stuff :D
[11:42] <G7PMO_Kev> yup, let me go back to bear for a sec
[11:42] <gonzo_> bear is an rfm2 I assume. You can hear the rasp in the keying
[11:43] <navrac_work> i think so by the sound of it
[11:43] <LazyL_M0LEP> gonzo_: Yep, it is.
[11:43] <G7PMO_Kev> yup, decoding bear absolutley fine
[11:43] <navrac_work> is it all gibberish or just bits of it?
[11:43] <G7PMO_Kev> 2 valid packets for bear sent
[11:44] <Darkside> BEAR has lost lock anyway
[11:44] <G7PMO_Kev> 100% giberish
[11:44] <gonzo_> I've just seen valid packets (not to say the contence is valid!)
[11:45] <gonzo_> both on same balloon?
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[11:45] <Kev_2> Cloud looked like this: \)2%R22$deId2er$dJeI%dJ2%i2gKGIR22$2%eIdIIrdeReJI%dJ2%G2gKGIR22%eId2rerrR%reI%dJ2gKGIdR22RdeI$IR%RIerReIIJI%dJ2
[11:46] <Andy-g0poy> is the shift aligning on the screen with the rx signal OK?
[11:46] <M0UPU_Upu> no it doesn't :)
[11:46] <Kev_2> bear decodes nicely: $$$$$BEAR,529,09:29:42,51.5110793,-1.3882328,170,4,36,0,1488*5559
[11:47] <cuddykid> what GPS is on bear?
[11:47] <M0UPU_Upu> its the code
[11:47] <cuddykid> ah right
[11:47] <M0UPU_Upu> its doing power saving
[11:47] <Darkside> ok does anyone here have an amateur license, can do more than 5W on 70cm
[11:47] <Darkside> and has 70cm SSB TX capability
[11:47] <G7PMO_Kev> yes
[11:47] <G7PMO_Kev> no
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[11:47] <M0UPU_Upu> M0DTS
[11:47] <Darkside> damn
[11:47] <gonzo_> yep, 50W into yagi
[11:47] <G7PMO_Kev> yes to thr first, no to the second :(
[11:47] <LazyL_M0LEP> Yes-ish...
[11:48] <navrac_work> no to the first, yes to the second
[11:48] <cuddykid> gonzo_'s the man
[11:48] <Andy-g0poy> Amateur G0POY yes
[11:48] <Darkside> gonzo_: can you send data
[11:48] <M0UPU_Upu> gonzo_ if I gave you a wav file can you TX it ?
[11:49] <M0UPU_Upu> I'll PM him Darkside
[11:49] <Darkside> M0UPU_Upu: hold
[11:49] <M0UPU_Upu> ok
[11:50] <costyn> is this a first for UKHAS? TX to HAB? :)
[11:51] <navrac_work> I did it back in feb
[11:52] <G7PMO_Kev> Does someone (who isnt busy trying to fix it) have a moment to explain how come others are decoding cloud but I can't?
[11:52] <cuddykid> G7PMO_Kev: it will be (more than likely) to do with your settings
[11:52] <navrac_work> sadly I've no clue why
[11:52] <costyn> navrac_work: ah, missed that. thought because of hte recent ofcom email exchange this was the first time
[11:52] <cuddykid> G7PMO_Kev: are you on mac/windows/linux?
[11:52] <G7PMO_Kev> windows
[11:52] <gonzo_> the inverse is a popular one to try
[11:53] <G7PMO_Kev> running 3.21.43
[11:53] <cuddykid> G7PMO_Kev: don't suppose you have team viewer installed?
[11:53] <Andy-g0poy> lot of reasons, settings, local noiuse / qrm lots of keyfob/wirelss controls in the band
[11:53] <LazyL_M0LEP> G7PMO_Kev: Have you tried the "quit and restart" fall-back?
[11:53] <navrac_work> hit the rev - i get the same string as you when i hit rev
[11:53] <G7PMO_Kev> rev?
[11:53] <navrac_work> sorry rv button
[11:54] <navrac_work> bottom rhs
[11:54] <G7PMO_Kev> ok, let me retune to cloud
[11:54] <Laurenceb_> what is OSIRIS doing?
[11:54] <navrac_work> i think you are tuned to the wrong side
[11:55] <G7PMO_Kev> yup, I need rev *on*
[11:55] <LazyL_M0LEP> Weird. Suggests you're getting data in LSB... *head-scratcing time*
[11:56] <G7PMO_Kev> 434.074 USB, spacing is slightly less than 425
[11:56] <navrac_work> costyn - mine was pretty primative for a laugh- darkside has evolved it to another level
[11:56] <LazyL_M0LEP> Yay for clean decode, anyway.
[11:56] <Laurenceb_> what is OSIRIS doing?
[11:56] <Laurenceb_> or isnt it flying?
[11:57] <Darkside> Laurenceb_: testing
[11:57] <navrac_work> i think just testing the uplink
[11:57] <Darkside> problems with noise
[11:57] <Darkside> its too close to one of the other payloads
[11:57] <Darkside> which is screwing it up
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[11:57] <Andy-g0poy> whoa big shift in cloud AF tones just then
[11:57] <G7PMO_Kev> and green lines, data uploaded, 400 spacing
[11:58] <Laurenceb_> ah
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[12:02] <navrac2> `rssi floor looks a bit high on osiris
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[12:04] <M0UPU_Upu> I believe that is the issue
[12:05] <navrac2> there is s lot of noise at that height in the uk - thats why i moved my rx up to 450 ish
[12:06] <Darkside> navrac2: its not ground noise
[12:07] <Darkside> its the proximity of it to another payload
[12:07] <navrac2> ah, ok
[12:07] <fsphil> what's clouds dial atm?
[12:07] <M0UPU_Upu> 434.072
[12:08] <LazyL_M0LEP> .0725
[12:08] <fsphil> ta, got it
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[12:10] <G7PMO_Kev> I was on 0.740 listening to it, and needed the RV on, on .0720 it is weaker for me, but doesnt need rv
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[12:11] <G7PMO_Kev> I was on .0740 even
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[12:11] <LazyL_M0LEP> Ah.
[12:12] <Andy-g0poy> What Rx are you usig, sounds like you have an odd IF image cropping up
[12:12] <G7PMO_Kev> Yaesu vr-500
[12:13] <Andy-g0poy> That should be OK... it does not support DSB does it?
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[12:14] <navrac_work> osiris is a bugger to decode
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[12:14] <G7PMO_Kev> ahh, .0720 is actually stronger now, must have been my dodgy ears :) 2DB sn on .0720, was -10dB on .0740
[12:15] <G7PMO_Kev> Andy - WFM, NFFM, CW, AM, USB & LSB
[12:16] <Andy-g0poy> as alt increases it will pass outside the antenna pattern, that happens at about 25K here
[12:16] <Andy-g0poy> also the payload is swinging about and that can cause quite a bit of QSB
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[12:17] <Darkside> navrac2: don't worry about OSIRIS
[12:17] <Darkside> it has no useful telemetry
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[12:18] <navrac_work> just decoding it out of interest - loads of trackers on cloud
[12:18] <Darkside> k
[12:18] <Darkside> well not much will change on OSIRIS apart from battery voltage
[12:18] <navrac_work> i forgot i had the agc on - not good for pulsy signals
[12:19] <G7PMO_Kev> Hows Bear doing, is it reporting about the same place but still with no lock?
[12:19] <Darkside> yes
[12:20] <M0UPU_Upu> yeah bad code
[12:20] <G7PMO_Kev> ok
[12:20] <G7PMO_Kev> bad code - ie it does have a lock but is tx'ing that it doesnt?
[12:20] <SamSilververnert> predictor seems a tad out of kilter
[12:20] <M0UPU_Upu> its running power saving ublox code
[12:21] <G7PMO_Kev> ahhh, ok, bad code in the GPS
[12:21] <Andy-g0poy> kev - can only suggest that the Rx must be seeing some sort of image could be RF, IF or even Afg
[12:21] <navrac_work> the power saving mode is pretty bad on the ublox - struggled for ages to get it to work with a 20sec cycle
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[12:21] <Andy-g0poy> needs keeping an eye on
[12:22] <DanielRichman> the half-red half-green bug is fixed; the fix will be included in the next release of dl-fldigi (soon)
[12:23] <G7PMO_Kev> Andy - ok, to easy to pick on the wrong frequency with the drifitng that happens, but I know now that if I need Rv on it is an image of the signal I am picking up
[12:23] <G7PMO_Kev> Daniel - just to confirm not fixed in 21.43 the Beta that UPU has just given me?
[12:24] <Andy-g0poy> If you are using any external preamps, that could cause an overload on the Rx front end.
[12:24] <M0UPU_Upu> I'll build it later G7PMO_Kev
[12:24] <G7PMO_Kev> thanks upu
[12:25] <G7PMO_Kev> Andy - just the rx, some coax, a lightening protector and a colinear on the chimney....
[12:25] <DanielRichman> G7PMO_Kev: yes that's correct. Fixed in a newer version
[12:26] <G7PMO_Kev> Thanks Daniel
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[12:26] <Andy-g0poy> kev - bit of a mystery then :-(
[12:26] <G7PMO_Kev> Andy - just a side effect of packing so much electronics with such a wide rx band into a tiny handheld rx I guess?
[12:27] <navrac2> it would be nice if the bug stayed - but the length of the red gave you an indication of good/bad packet ratio
[12:27] <fsphil> even with two yagis and being up a mountain, the S meter still doesn't register anything
[12:27] Action: Penfold grins.
[12:27] <Penfold> right. having finally caused my home server to not fail to boot into its new kernel, it's TIME to go back to building software for thje SDR dongle :D
[12:28] <Andy-g0poy> kiev - yes that's always possible. The frone end fdiltering of wide REx is always a bit of a limiting factor.
[12:28] <G7PMO_Kev> Penfold :)
[12:28] <Andy-g0poy> hell my typing is poor today sorry...
[12:28] <G7PMO_Kev> hehehehe
[12:28] <G7PMO_Kev> Kiev isnt a new one on me, dont worry :)
[12:29] <G7PMO_Kev> do I dare go get some lunch, or will I miss burst ;)
[12:29] <bertrik> what does the icon with little clouds on the map mean?
[12:29] <Andy-g0poy> burst is usual;ly around the 30k point, but you never know...
[12:29] <G7PMO_Kev> bertrik - burst
[12:30] <G7PMO_Kev> bertrik, ie where the predictor thinks the balloon will burst
[12:30] <bertrik> G7PMO_Kev: thanks, ok, makes sense actually
[12:31] <G7PMO_Kev> brb
[12:33] <Andy-g0poy> cloud signal getting quite weak with me now
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[12:36] <MickMondo> Looking good Dave
[12:36] <fsphil> strong here now again
[12:36] <fsphil> it had faded
[12:36] <fsphil> S0 :)
[12:37] <M0UPU_Upu> I think my S meter must be broken I've never seen it register anything for HAB's even via the Yagi
[12:37] <fsphil> and you're closer!
[12:37] <fsphil> the view up here is amazing
[12:38] <M0UPU_Upu> M0DTS online ?
[12:39] <G7PMO_Kev> fsphil - where abouts are you?
[12:39] <Andy-g0poy> max I usually see on the 910 is aboiut 4 at5 the moment it's no reading at all.
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[12:39] <fsphil> G7PMO_Kev: up a mountain in the middle of n.ireland
[12:39] <fsphil> ooh, hab hat
[12:39] Nick change: fsphil -> MI0VIM_fsphil
[12:40] <G7PMO_Kev> I see you :)
[12:40] <griffonbot> Received email: Anthony Stirk "[UKHAS] M0DTS"
[12:41] <MI0VIM_fsphil> payload just disappeared
[12:42] <MI0VIM_fsphil> and coming back
[12:42] <Darkside> navrac2: i like your funcube dingle
[12:43] <navrac2> well i like to be diferent
[12:43] <navrac2> darkside - would your habamp design work at 2.4ghz with a different saw?
[12:44] <Darkside> no
[12:44] <Darkside> that LNA doesn't work that high
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[12:45] <MI0VIM_fsphil> I just heard voice on 434.073
[12:45] <MI0VIM_fsphil> that was weird
[12:45] <Darkside> is it a repeater input?
[12:45] <navrac2> pity, I'll have to find a decent preamp from somewhere
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[12:45] <MI0VIM_fsphil> not here
[12:46] <MI0VIM_fsphil> althouhg I'm quite high up, it could be from scotland
[12:47] <navrac2> no repeaters with that input freq
[12:48] <MI0VIM_fsphil> hasn't happened again
[12:48] <G4DPZ> new funcube dongle to be announced at the amsat meeting: http://tinyurl.com/amsat2012
[12:49] <Darkside> funcube dongle + preselection filters
[12:49] <Darkside> i think
[12:49] <Darkside> though i'd like to know if he's replaced the E4000
[12:49] <Darkside> given they've gone bust
[12:49] <Darkside> and if he has, with what
[12:50] <G4DPZ> Howard's keeping a secret until the 15th.
[12:50] <Darkside> yeah
[12:51] <gonzo_> is BATC streaming planned for this year dave?
[12:51] <G4DPZ> yep, but may not be live, it may be an hour out as we don't have a hight speed link :-(
[12:52] <G4DPZ> high
[12:52] <Darkside> damn
[12:52] <MI0VIM_fsphil> cloud signal a bit weaker here again
[12:52] <G4DPZ> We'll know more about a week before :-(
[12:52] <gonzo_> There was concern that it may put off atendees. as they can watch from home.
[12:52] <gonzo_> nice to have the talks avail on archive.
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[12:53] <G4DPZ> Yes, we've had that concern for several years
[12:53] <G4DPZ> to be honest I don't think it would change the numbers much
[12:54] <Darkside> i would have liked to come
[12:54] <Darkside> but i'm going to be too busy
[12:54] <Darkside> and its a pain for me to get there
[12:54] <G4DPZ> Would be nice if we could get a pico-ballon launch at the event :-)
[12:54] <Darkside> ad land in london again?
[12:54] <Darkside> :P
[12:54] <MI0VIM_fsphil> hah
[12:54] <Darkside> too soon?
[12:55] <G4DPZ> Even worse, trying to get a NOTAM for Gatwick might be aproblem :-)
[12:55] <Darkside> looooool
[12:55] <G4DPZ> I waer a pilot's hat as well as a radio ham
[12:55] <gonzo_> we had quad copters
[12:56] <MI0VIM_fsphil> but not at the same time G4DPZ :p
[12:56] <G7PMO_Kev> Cloud has just got a lot weaker for me
[12:56] <Darkside> probably in an antenna null
[12:56] <G4DPZ> nope, can't do aeronautical mobile in the UK :-(
[12:57] <MI0VIM_fsphil> it's steady here atm, but not as strong as it was earlier
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[12:59] <griffonbot> Received email: Mervyn Huggett "Re: [UKHAS] M0DTS"
[12:59] <M0UPU_Upu> Why did Merv reply to they ? :)
[12:59] <M0UPU_Upu> that
[12:59] <G7PMO_Kev> audibly a lot louder for me back on my own weird and wonderful 0740 again :)
[13:00] <MI0VIM_fsphil> frequency drift is minimal
[13:00] <M0UPU_Upu> good old NTX2
[13:01] <MI0VIM_fsphil> and 30km
[13:01] <DanielRichman> M0UPU_Upu: probably didn't read subject. I didn't either; your email didn't make sense for a little while
[13:01] <M0UPU_Upu> lol
[13:01] <M0UPU_Upu> I'll try make them clearer next time
[13:02] <griffonbot> Received email: Anthony Stirk "Re: [UKHAS] M0DTS"
[13:02] <DanielRichman> imgur.com/qfUOm gmail makes it easy to ignore
[13:03] <G7PMO_Kev> the fact that Red has not moved, enables a good idea on the original predicted landing site, Vs the current revised landing site, and eventually the actuall landing site - will be good to see what sort of level of different actually happens....
[13:03] <M0UPU_Upu> I'm not a fan of GMail tbh I can never find anything
[13:03] <Darkside> G7PMO_Kev: also depends on the input parameters tho
[13:03] <Darkside> well actually not so much in this case
[13:03] <M0UPU_Upu> but I see what you mean
[13:04] <Darkside> as its just hovering around over 30km anyway
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[13:08] <gonzo_> it was circling over the woodland. obviouslt the trees were just too much of a temptation
[13:09] <G7PMO_Kev> ooh, drift down
[13:09] <MI0VIM_fsphil> frequency increasing quickly
[13:09] <MI0VIM_fsphil> weird
[13:09] <G7PMO_Kev> and stable again
[13:10] <G7PMO_Kev> Guys, habitat tells me I have tx'ed 242 reports for Cloud, but robertharrison.org/listen/view.php doesnt show them?
[13:11] <Andy-g0poy> general freq stability has been a lot better on this flight, I've hardly needed to retune
[13:11] <MI0VIM_fsphil> that page is not used anymore with never versions of dl-fldigi G7PMO_Kev
[13:11] <MI0VIM_fsphil> they send the data directly to habitat
[13:11] <G7PMO_Kev> ok :)
[13:11] <MI0VIM_fsphil> 34km
[13:13] <Darkside> ok we're gonna sit here for a bit
[13:14] <G7PMO_Kev> The parser on habitat doesnt tell me who the packets came from? So anyway of seing my packets sent now?
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[13:15] <MI0VIM_fsphil> not sure actually
[13:15] <daveake> 'noon all
[13:16] <MI0VIM_fsphil> tis daveake
[13:16] <G7PMO_Kev> the export function doesn't tell me who from either, no wories
[13:16] <daveake> where/
[13:16] <G7PMO_Kev> hi Dave
[13:16] <daveake> hiya
[13:16] <Randomskk> it does know who they are from
[13:16] <MI0VIM_fsphil> cloud fading again
[13:16] <daveake> We stopped somewhere fairly high up and not too far from roads
[13:16] <Randomskk> http://habitat.habhub.org/testing-web/stats/
[13:16] <Randomskk> try that G7PMO_Kev
[13:18] <G7PMO_Kev> Randomskk - yea, tells me I have uploaded 271, I was just trying to see my actual sentances, I was using wget on robertharrison.org/listen/view.php yesterday, but have since moved to a new version of dl-fldigi
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[13:18] <griffonbot> Received email: Mervyn Huggett "Re: [UKHAS] M0DTS"
[13:19] <G7PMO_Kev> not a problem, was just interested on more detail...
[13:19] <Randomskk> G7PMO_Kev: oh I see what you mean. at the moment there's no super easy way for you to just see that
[13:19] <Randomskk> but the data is being stored and is in theory accessible -- just right now it would involve talking to the database
[13:20] <Andy-g0poy> I've just clicked on the raw data option in fldigi which brings up mthe roberth site. It just btakes a long time to load
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[13:21] <Andy-g0poy> Easy enoug to find or grep callsign lines out of the file.
[13:21] <jcoxon> Hey all
[13:21] <G7PMO_Kev> Andy - in the newer version of fldigi the data doesnt go via roberth
[13:23] <G7PMO_Kev> Cloud is going to be in the record books at this rate
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[13:23] <Darkside> how so?
[13:23] <G7PMO_Kev> well number 20 for altitude so far...
[13:24] <MI0VIM_fsphil> 38km
[13:24] <Andy-g0poy> using version 3.20.29 so not the latest
[13:24] <G7PMO_Kev> Somone mentioned 30k was about expected burst altitude
[13:24] <MI0VIM_fsphil> daveake: how long does your carpc run of the battery
[13:24] <MI0VIM_fsphil> ?
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[13:25] <daveake> well it lasted for the fill
[13:25] <daveake> gave up on the road after
[13:25] <daveake> this is frmo a pair of 7Ah SLAs
[13:25] <MI0VIM_fsphil> burst
[13:25] <gonzo_> wobble!
[13:25] <MI0VIM_fsphil> that's not as long as I expected
[13:25] <MI0VIM_fsphil> (the battery)
[13:25] <Darkside> yep
[13:25] <Darkside> burst
[13:25] <daveake> ok
[13:26] <Andy-g0poy> yes burst
[13:26] <zyp> daveake, as in 14 Ah total?
[13:26] <Darkside> he;'s driving
[13:26] <Darkside> we're moving again
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[13:27] <zyp> i.e. 168 Wh?
[13:27] <Darkside> hi alex_____
[13:27] <alex_____> Howdy Mark VK5QI
[13:27] <Darkside> alex_____: experiencing some fun interaction between payloads today
[13:28] <Darkside> put one payload too close to the uplink board
[13:28] <Darkside> and it screwed it up
[13:28] <Darkside> -50dBm noise floor!
[13:28] <Darkside> not getting over that easily..
[13:28] <Darkside> balloon burst, we're chasing it now
[13:28] <navrac_work> looks like the predictor is showing the balloon going straight to daves 4x4 - wonder if he's filled the back with water and branches to attract it
[13:29] <alex_____> OK will leave you to it.
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[13:31] <G7PMO_Kev> It doesnt appear to be going back South yet :)
[13:34] <MI0VIM_fsphil> gone here
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[13:37] <Darkside> oh jeez
[13:37] <Darkside> thaat is a lot of tree
[13:39] <Laurenceb_> landing spot prediction tends to overshoot
[13:39] <Laurenceb_> due to drag variability
[13:39] <Laurenceb_> and lower wind speed close to ground
[13:39] <Laurenceb_> id guess tilford
[13:40] <Darkside> Laurenceb_: i have live preditions running
[13:40] <Laurenceb_> heh
[13:40] <Darkside> updating on each packet
[13:40] <Darkside> so shush :P
[13:41] <MI0VIM_fsphil> so I'm up a mountain with a big 70cm antenna, anyone fancy trying a PSK31 contact? :)
[13:43] <LazyL_M0LEP> MI0VIM_fsphil: SOTA time? ;)
[13:44] <LazyL_M0LEP> ...or are you in a car?
[13:44] <MI0VIM_fsphil> if only I wasn't near the car and half way down from the peak :)
[13:46] <LazyL_M0LEP> Heh ;)
[13:46] <Laurenceb_> where is daveake going
[13:46] <gonzo_> must be a nice chippie somewhere
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[13:47] <Graham_G3VZV> is wondering how he is still hearing and decoding bear - where is it actually?
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[13:48] <M0UPU_Upu> oh hello :)
[13:48] <M0UPU_Upu> too late Rob_M0DTS :)
[13:48] <M0UPU_Upu> just out of interest how much TX power do you have on 70cms ?
[13:48] <Rob_M0DTS> Sorry been out in the garden...
[13:48] <M0UPU_Upu> its ok
[13:48] <Rob_M0DTS> ~200W
[13:48] <M0UPU_Upu> ouch
[13:48] <M0UPU_Upu> that could have been useful
[13:49] <Rob_M0DTS> too nice to be in the shack today really..hi
[13:50] <Rob_M0DTS> trying to avoid somewhere with cloud or a new feature?
[13:50] <M0UPU_Upu> testing remote cut down
[13:50] <M0UPU_Upu> but payload was getting interference and couldn't get through it with 5 watts :)
[13:50] <Rob_M0DTS> i see, nobody else about i guess with tx?
[13:50] <Darkside> don't want to cut down here
[13:50] <Darkside> lol
[13:50] <Darkside> Rob_M0DTS: not with enough power
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[13:50] <Rob_M0DTS> ah right
[13:50] <Darkside> problem is the payload below is desensing the receiver
[13:51] <Darkside> -60dBm noise foor
[13:51] <Rob_M0DTS> aha yes a problem
[13:51] <Darkside> noise floor*
[13:51] <Darkside> gonna have trouble getting over that
[13:51] <Rob_M0DTS> unless use 868MHz but no receivers about.
[13:52] Nick change: DRAMAWAY -> DRAMA
[13:53] <Laurenceb_> forecast is _slightly_ wrong
[13:54] <Laurenceb_> oh maybe not
[13:54] <Graham_G3VZV> is still wondering if bear is where it says it is as it is strong hear
[13:54] <Graham_G3VZV> *here
[13:54] <Darkside> its not
[13:55] <Darkside> bear is with cloud
[13:55] <Graham_G3VZV> ah - that explains it then:)
[13:55] <Rob_M0DTS> Apologies for turning up late! anyway i'm off back out to the garden...GL with recovers.
[13:56] <MI0VIM_fsphil> time to pack up
[13:57] <costyn> Darkside: you guys are gonna see it come down :)
[13:57] <Darkside> probably not
[13:57] <Darkside> trees
[13:57] <costyn> ah
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[13:58] <costyn> we saw ours come down just as we were driving down the road it was supposed to land next to. the predictor is really quite good
[13:59] <M0UPU_Upu> thx for coming on Rob
[13:59] Nick change: M0UPU_Upu -> Upu
[13:59] <Laurenceb_> hehe "Ham lane"
[14:00] <G4DPZ> afternoon graham
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[14:00] <Darkside> its going to land on top of us
[14:00] <Darkside> right in the middle of the villiage
[14:00] <Darkside> urgh
[14:01] <Upu> if you're lucky
[14:01] <Darkside> village*
[14:01] <Darkside> i hope it doesn't
[14:01] <Darkside> too many houses
[14:01] <Upu> its edging slightly away from there
[14:01] <Upu> is it over cast ?
[14:01] <Darkside> yes
[14:01] <Upu> shame
[14:01] <Darkside> its edging south
[14:02] <Upu> north now
[14:02] <Darkside> not according to mine
[14:02] <Laurenceb_> cameras at the ready
[14:02] <Upu> following the prediction
[14:03] <MI0VIM_fsphil> try and catch it :)
[14:03] <Upu> that would be very cool
[14:03] <Upu> stream on :)
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[14:04] <Laurenceb_> i might head a little downringe
[14:04] <Laurenceb_> *range
[14:04] <Laurenceb_> where is stream?
[14:04] <Upu> http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?id=768
[14:04] <Upu> offline atm
[14:04] <G7PMO_Kev> getting V weak for me now, prety much disapeared
[14:04] <Upu> oh swinging north now
[14:05] <Andy-g0poy> it's going to drop below my horiz pretty soon now
[14:05] <LazyL_M0LEP> Fading here now...
[14:06] <Laurenceb_> argg zigzag
[14:06] <Upu> and south :)
[14:06] <Laurenceb_> springhill road i think
[14:07] <Upu> can you not see that ? :)
[14:07] <Upu> and cut down now!
[14:07] <Andy-g0poy> lost signal at about 600m
[14:07] <costyn> Upu: :)
[14:07] <Laurenceb_> heading stright for you
[14:08] <costyn> Upu: they have to see it, it's passing by at 300m
[14:08] <Darkside> LANDED
[14:08] <Darkside> RIGHT IN FRONT OF US
[14:08] <Upu> lol
[14:08] <Darkside> IN AOMWONWA YARD
[14:08] <Darkside> someones yard
[14:08] <Darkside> not many pics
[14:08] <G7PMO_Kev> :)
[14:08] <Darkside> focus screwed
[14:08] <Upu> haha
[14:08] <Darkside> ok recovering
[14:08] <Laurenceb_> landing
[14:08] <costyn> NICE NICE
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[14:08] <Upu> looks like a private scrap yard
[14:08] <Upu> :)
[14:09] <Laurenceb_> eek is that a tree
[14:09] <LazyL_M0LEP> Looks like it ;)
[14:09] <costyn> Laurenceb_: looks like it, but I think Darkside's reaction would've been different :)
[14:10] <Upu> http://goo.gl/maps/hygY8
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[14:11] <Upu> it moved
[14:11] <Upu> You have to assume thats recovered
[14:11] <Upu> either that or its walking back to the car itself
[14:11] <navrac_work> probably in the car - low signal and so innacurate
[14:12] <LazyL_M0LEP> How long was the payload cord...
[14:13] <LazyL_M0LEP> Stretched across the road?
[14:13] <navrac_work> gets trapped on a passing car and runs off at 70mph
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[14:15] <Darkside> dave here
[14:15] <Upu> hi Dave
[14:15] <Darkside> Bear landed on a car windscreen no damage house owner happy
[14:15] <Upu> well couldn't have been a softer payload
[14:16] <Darkside> Then line is over some LV power cables and phones lines
[14:16] <Darkside> Ball in a tree but not high up
[14:16] <MI0VIM_fsphil> phew
[14:16] <Darkside> Chut dangling over the footpath
[14:16] <Upu> there did look to be a number of lines
[14:16] <Upu> whats the plan ?
[14:16] <Darkside> It's halarious :)
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[14:16] <Upu> take pics :)
[14:16] <Darkside> The plan is to make a plan
[14:16] <Darkside> Back soon
[14:17] <MI0VIM_fsphil> good plan
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[14:19] <fsphil> had a family on holiday from Spain over asking about the antennas
[14:20] <fsphil> right, heading home. laters!
[14:20] <Upu> enjoy
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[14:45] <Darkside> we have all payloads back
[14:46] <SamSilver> wd mark &dave
[14:48] <LazyL_M0LEP> Good ;)
[14:49] <Darkside> they landed in a front garden
[14:49] <Darkside> well, 2 front gardens
[14:49] <LazyL_M0LEP> How long was the cord?
[14:49] <Darkside> 50m
[14:49] <Darkside> lol
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[14:50] <daveake> woohoo
[14:50] <SamSilver> wd dave
[14:50] <LazyL_M0LEP> Ah. Yeah, that could trail across quite a lot of garden and so on. ;)
[14:51] <daveake> 2 gardens
[14:51] <daveake> 1 tree
[14:51] <daveake> 1 ladder
[14:51] <daveake> :D
[14:51] <LazyL_M0LEP> All you needed was a power line and a pond.
[14:52] <SamSilver> one widscreen
[14:52] <SamSilver> wind/
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[14:55] <costyn> daveake: congrats, nice flight!
[14:56] <daveake> cheers
[14:56] <MrScienceMan> water landing ?
[14:56] <daveake> saw it land
[14:56] <daveake> That was ace
[14:56] <daveake> and scary
[14:56] <daveake> in equal measure
[14:56] <daveake> 1 in a tree; 1 on a car. the car one was very soft :)
[14:56] <costyn> Upu: do you have a piece of code you use to test the ublox modules? I've tried various bits of code, including my previous tracker code , but I'm not getting any gps time nor coordinates from the gps
[14:58] <MrScienceMan> http://ava.upuaut.net/store/wiki/doku.php?id=levelconvertor
[14:58] <MrScienceMan> that the one?
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[15:02] <costyn> daveake: so was the bear tracker actually inside the teddybear?
[15:03] <Darkside> yes
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[15:05] <costyn> cool :)
[15:07] <fsphil> good news on the recovery
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[15:17] <Upu> hey costyn sorry was afk
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[15:17] <Upu> MrScienceMan's link was the one
[15:18] <Laurenceb_> photos online?
[15:18] <Darkside> photos of?
[15:18] <Darkside> http://pipe2.darklomax.org/uk/cloud6/DSC_6249.jpg
[15:18] <Darkside> thats how our bear landed
[15:18] <Darkside> so guys
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[15:19] <Upu> ouch
[15:19] <Darkside> the plan was, we were going to cut the bear away at 35km
[15:19] <Darkside> and let it land
[15:19] <Darkside> but the cutdown board was wiped out by the camera next to it
[15:19] <Darkside> (hint: testing)
[15:19] <Darkside> http://pipe2.darklomax.org/uk/cloud6/
[15:19] <Darkside> more pics of the landing here
[15:19] <LazyL_M0LEP> ...but then its GPS wouldn't lock, and the uplink got blocked by the other trackers?
[15:20] <Upu> nice shots
[15:20] <Darkside> LazyL_M0LEP: thats a point
[15:20] <Darkside> LazyL_M0LEP: the uplink was blocked by the video camera
[15:20] <Upu> lol http://pipe2.darklomax.org/uk/cloud6/DSC_6247.jpg
[15:20] <LazyL_M0LEP> Wires everywhere!
[15:20] <Darkside> and the teds gp wouldn't lock due to coding
[15:20] <Upu> "yeah hi we're from UKHAS and we appear to have landed on your car"
[15:21] <Upu> My coding, sort of
[15:21] <Upu> rushed and no testing = bad
[15:21] <Darkside> oh well, we got it all bck :P
[15:21] <Upu> yep
[15:22] <Upu> rerun :)
[15:22] <Upu> this time with more tin foil and tested code
[15:22] <Darkside> the video from the camera got wiped out from clouds
[15:22] <Darkside> yep
[15:22] <Laurenceb_> http://pipe2.darklomax.org/uk/cloud6/DSC_6243.jpg
[15:22] <Darkside> turn off the bloody power saving
[15:22] <Laurenceb_> nice
[15:22] <Laurenceb_> is that the chute?
[15:22] <Upu> yeah will do but I do need to revisit that code
[15:22] <Darkside> LazyL_M0LEP: yeah
[15:22] <Darkside> Laurenceb_:
[15:22] <Darkside> we saw it land right in front of us
[15:22] <Upu> gives 30% more run time
[15:22] <Darkside> but i didnt get the camer up in time to show the ted falling
[15:23] <Darkside> we did see it tho
[15:23] <Darkside> we had parked RIGHT in front of where it landed
[15:23] <G0DJA> Left my RX on 434.200 but nothing was decoded by look of it from Bear
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[15:23] <Upu> it decoded G0DJA
[15:23] <gonzo_> did the car owner have much to say about the landing?
[15:23] <Upu> just didn't update its GPS
[15:23] <Laurenceb_> whats that triangular thing?>
[15:24] <Darkside> deflated parachute
[15:24] <Upu> bears parachute
[15:24] <Darkside> gonzo_: look at the orientation of the bear in th ephotos
[15:24] <Upu> it had a separate one
[15:24] <Darkside> the guy opened the door to see a space bear with a parachute looking at him
[15:24] <Darkside> he LOVED it
[15:24] <Upu> lol
[15:25] <gonzo_> excellent
[15:25] <G0DJA> I should have picked cloud then...
[15:26] <gonzo_> the bear idea could be a way of softening the recovery with householders
[15:26] <LazyL_M0LEP> :)
[15:26] <gonzo_> excuse me, could I came and recover my teddybear
[15:27] <G7PMO_Kev> :)
[15:27] <Darkside> gonzo_: that was how it was
[15:27] <Darkside> lol
[15:27] <Darkside> exactly like that
[15:28] <G0DJA> Mount it upside down and say that you are looking for a bear with a sore head
[15:29] <Darkside> haha
[15:29] <LazyL_M0LEP> ...and an antenna sticking out of its head would look better thhan one sticking out the other way...
[15:30] <G0DJA> If it lands in a churchyard, what are the chances that they would be sing the hymn about Gladly my cross-eyed bear?
[15:30] <fsphil> my location for today: http://i.imgur.com/zVNBB.jpg
[15:31] <Darkside> lol nice
[15:31] <G0DJA> Where's that fsphil?
[15:31] <fsphil> a mountain called slieve gallion
[15:33] <LazyL_M0LEP> How much of a hike's the summit from the car-park?
[15:33] <fsphil> the antennas: http://i.imgur.com/iqar5.jpg
[15:33] <fsphil> it's a fair walk
[15:34] <fsphil> there is actually a road the entire way up
[15:34] <fsphil> but there's a taller peak to the east which makes it a bit bad for hab tracking
[15:34] <Darkside> ok guys
[15:34] <Darkside> i added all the launch pics shere http://pipe2.darklomax.org/uk/cloud6/
[15:35] <Darkside> http://pipe2.darklomax.org/uk/cloud6/DSC_6231.jpg
[15:35] <Darkside> our little near-spacetronaut
[15:35] <G0DJA> What did the owner say "What's the Mazda you? Gota no repect?"
[15:35] <fsphil> what a catch: http://pipe2.darklomax.org/uk/cloud6/DSC_6236.jpg
[15:35] <Upu> such a shame that didn't cut away
[15:35] <fsphil> oh dear G0DJA :)
[15:36] <Darkside> fsphil: haha
[15:36] <fsphil> you know I actually think the second yagi was suppose to be the other way around
[15:37] <Darkside> G0DJA: ah shaddapaya face
[15:37] <Upu> what did you think of the H2 valve Darkside ?
[15:37] <Darkside> it was loud
[15:37] <Upu> yeah
[15:38] <fsphil> no boom?
[15:38] <Darkside> didn't you see me jump?
[15:38] <Upu> lol
[15:38] <Darkside> when he first did it i jumped backwards a bit
[15:38] <Upu> saw you hold the regulator up pensivley to the camera (however you spell that)
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[15:45] <AlephHaz> are there any cheap sdr alternatives for receiving ssb radio? i'm looking at getting a kenwood th-f7e (can't seem to find a yaesu ft-790r for sale) which i think does the job, but if there's anything i can get very cheap using ssb i'd be interested in looking into it
[15:46] <G0DJA> Have you looked into the DVB-T dongles AlephHaz?
[15:46] <AlephHaz> i shall take a look :)
[15:46] <Upu> AlephHaz
[15:46] <Upu> http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:sdr_tracker
[15:47] <G0DJA> I thought the TH-F7E was FM only?
[15:47] <AlephHaz> FM/FM-Wide/FM-Narrow/AM + SSB/CW Receive (to 470 MHz)
[15:47] <G0DJA> AH ! FM/FM-W/FM-N/AM plus SSB/CW receive
[15:47] <AlephHaz> according to kenwood's site
[15:48] <G0DJA> Had missed that part when Googled it
[15:51] <AlephHaz> and thanks upu :)
[15:51] <G0DJA> Is it SSB/CW on 2m and 70cm or just HF though?
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[15:52] <Upu> I sell them with the ESD diode and SMA fitted on my shop : http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=71_63&product_id=70
[15:52] <jonsowman> Upu: you pinged?
[15:52] <AlephHaz> SSB/CW Receive (to 470 MHz)
[15:53] <AlephHaz> yup
[15:53] <Upu> err its ok jonsowman long time ago all fixed but thx
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[15:53] <jonsowman> lol ok
[15:53] <jonsowman> sorry, been out all day
[15:54] <Upu> nps
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[15:56] <G0DJA> Just read a few of the reviews on the TH-F7E but unless you are going out portable the DVB-T dongle seems a cheaper solution
[16:00] <AlephHaz> i'm taking it's perfectly feasible to go home and track the balloon if you stuck an antenna out your window?
[16:01] <jonsowman> lol ok
[16:02] <jonsowman> ignore ^
[16:07] <costyn> thanks MrScienceMan
[16:08] <costyn> (and Upu)
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[16:34] <Penfold> anyone built a recent borip_server on Ubuntu 12.04?
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[17:08] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[17:21] <mclane> Hi Lunar, how are you?
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[17:31] <number10> I see bear is still on launch pad - what happened?
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[17:37] <daveake> upu's tracker ...
[17:38] <daveake> ... it's got some power-saving code that needs finishing.
[17:38] <daveake> it puts the GPS in a mode where if it loses lock it never regains it
[17:40] <MrScienceMan> but it saves power doesnt it ?
[17:40] <daveake> Very much so :)
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[17:40] <daveake> didn't matter in the end
[17:42] <number10> upu needs to put that bug on the wiki ;)
[17:42] <daveake> lol
[17:43] <daveake> Space Ted as he landed - http://www.flickr.com/photos/daveake/7915112666/in/photostream
[17:43] <number10> nice one
[17:43] <daveake> facing the front door of the house
[17:43] <number10> I take it they didnt mind
[17:43] <daveake> I placed myself strategically to block the view as the owner opened the door
[17:44] <Penfold> daveake: did you have much explaining to do?
[17:44] <daveake> "I seem to have landed this in you garden" - and moved to reveal ted
[17:44] <daveake> He was quickly won over :)
[17:44] <Penfold> :)
[17:44] <number10> thats good
[17:44] <Gadget-Mac> Evening all
[17:44] <Penfold> did you explain where Space Ted had landed FROM?
[17:44] <daveake> yes yes
[17:45] <daveake> showed some photos; gave blog address; explained what we do
[17:45] <Penfold> :)
[17:45] <Gadget-Mac> Ah Penfold :)
[17:45] <Penfold> :)
[17:45] <daveake> did that all twice, as the payload train was spreead over 2 gardens
[17:45] <Penfold> whoops :D
[17:45] <daveake> Landed right in front of me
[17:46] <number10> lol - thats worse than my one in a tree and over high voltage cables :p
[17:46] <number10> luckit it was a soft bear
[17:46] <number10> lucky
[17:47] <daveake> So imagine, your flight is coming in to land, it's 40 metres long, you're on a pavement with road to the right, gardens and houses to your left, and electricity and phone lines *everywhere8
[17:47] <number10> mm a little worying
[17:47] <daveake> part of you is saying "hey that's cool it's landing in front of me"
[17:47] <Lunar_Lander> hi mclane I am a bit tired from calculating part values and searching for them on Farnell
[17:47] <daveake> the other 90% is going "shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittt!"
[17:47] <number10> not sure if the hobby has more stress than excitement sometimes
[17:48] <daveake> Fortunately it was coming down at a steep angle (and at a reasonable speed...)
[17:48] <daveake> Ted landed first and I could see that was in a garden
[17:48] <daveake> Lost sight of cloud
[17:49] <daveake> then the parachute floated down right in front of me
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[17:50] <number10> great - presumably someone gave you a decent prediction - or did you go for the one shown on spacenear?
[17:50] <Penfold> how good was the predictor?
[17:50] <daveake> Live prediction? Darkside's
[17:51] <number10> thats was good
[17:51] <number10> just looking at some of darksides pics http://pipe2.darklomax.org/uk/cloud6/DSC_6245.jpg
[17:51] <daveake> Well it kept changing its mind, but in the end it was very very good
[17:51] <Lunar_Lander> where do you get stuff like inductors?
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[17:51] <Lunar_Lander> farnell, digikey or so?
[17:51] <daveake> We found a layby then Mark spotted it
[17:52] <number10> did he use ozzie explorer
[17:52] <daveake> yes
[17:52] <daveake> It was hanging over the pavement and people just walked right past.
[17:52] <number10> is it an algorithm for predicted landing or a guestimate?
[17:52] <daveake> Algorithm
[17:52] <daveake> I just love this shot - http://www.flickr.com/photos/daveake/7915186614/in/photostream
[17:53] <number10> yea, they see parachutes and teddies drop from the sky there all the time - so nothing new
[17:53] <daveake> lol
[17:54] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[17:55] <number10> did you cut the chute and pull from the other end?
[17:55] <daveake> Well with 2 payloads we had several ends :)
[17:55] <daveake> Ted was cut free first
[17:55] <daveake> I got the ball from a tree with a ladder
[17:56] <daveake> Then we cut that free, pulled one line in and pulled the chute down
[17:56] <number10> was the ball high - you know that cherry picker makes sense ;)
[17:56] <Penfold> all in all though, possibly a /little/ more exciting than you might want
[17:57] <daveake> That left the balloon neck which was twisted a little, so I guessed (correctly) which direction it was twisted in, untwisted it then that fell down
[17:57] <daveake> yes indeed
[18:00] <daveake> number10 I just needed a smaller ladder to reach the ball
[18:00] <daveake> House owner provided :)
[18:00] <number10> so that 3.7m one I had may have done the job - not that I was in a hurry to test it daveake
[18:01] <daveake> :)
[18:01] <Lunar_Lander> may I interject a question?
[18:01] <number10> habmotor want ok I take it
[18:01] <number10> went
[18:02] <number10> how many times did you need to fill up
[18:02] <daveake> Yes the HABMobile was great
[18:02] <daveake> Loads of space
[18:02] <daveake> Need that when you've got laptops and receivers everywhere
[18:03] <Daviey> Does GLONASS suffer from the max altitude restriction that GPS does?
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[18:04] <Penfold> Lunar_Lander: shoot
[18:04] <Lunar_Lander> if you need special parts like inductors and stuff like that, where do you order in the UK? Do you use farnell or something like that?
[18:09] <Darkside> farness is very good
[18:09] <Darkside> farnell*
[18:09] <Penfold> RS, also.
[18:09] <Penfold> they're not called Radiospares for nothing :D
[18:09] <daveake> Inductors are hardly "special" parts
[18:10] <Lunar_Lander> well at my local store they had a hard time getting 2.3 mH inductors
[18:10] <daveake> Just ordinary components. Get them wherever you get your other components
[18:10] <number10> unless you want 1 henry
[18:10] <daveake> Might be an unusual value
[18:10] <Lunar_Lander> I'd need 47 uH
[18:10] <daveake> Or they're lazy
[18:11] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[18:11] <Lunar_Lander> I'd also need an NXP 74HC4050N
[18:11] <Lunar_Lander> pretty sure they don't have that
[18:12] <Penfold> you lose
[18:12] <Penfold> http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/displayProduct.jsp?sku=380908&CMP=KNC-GUK-FUK-GEN-SKU-G30&mckv=s5vjI0Yq2%7Cpcrid%7C13359534429%7Ckword%7C74hc4050n%7Cmatch%7Ce%7Cplid%7C
[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> no
[18:13] <number10> Lunar_Lander: why can you not search on the web - it took me less than 1 minute to find inductors on farnell on the german site http://de.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2008+203354+310198765&Ntk=gensearch&Ntt=47uh&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&No=0&getResults=true&appliedparametrics=true&locale=de_DE&divisionLocale=de_DE&catalogId=&skipManufacturer=false&skipParametricAttributeId=&prevNValues=2008+203354&mm=1001698||,100000|
[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> my local store
[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> I was talking about the disadvantage of my local store here
[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> I already looked up all the parts on Farnell
[18:13] <nick_> There are still local shops selling a decent range of components?
[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> yea sort of
[18:14] <Lunar_Lander> at least here in Osnabruck
[18:14] <daveake> You asked if we use Farnell and you got your answer
[18:14] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[18:14] <Lunar_Lander> thank you
[18:14] <daveake> np
[18:14] <daveake> We love answering questions here
[18:14] <nick_> I use RS rather than Farnell because they give me a decent discount through the uni
[18:16] <mclane> in Germany, you can find that stuff also at Conrad and Reichelt
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[18:17] <number10> http://de.farnell.com/ http://de.rs-online.com/web/ - and john will be there to answer all your questions
[18:17] <daveake> good old reliable john
[18:18] <daveake> he never gets bored
[18:18] <number10> :D
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[18:18] <Lunar_Lander> who's John?
[18:19] <daveake> I have a new job for him
[18:19] <number10> he is the helpful chap at RS
[18:20] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:20] <nick_> Does anyone use RS' Design Spark site?
[18:22] <nick_> Or their PCB design program?
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[18:43] <G7PMO_Kev> NTX2 Radio Test part 1 working - Small steps and all that :)
[18:43] <fsphil> excellent
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[18:55] <Upu> Good on you for doing it one step at a time G7PMO_Kev
[18:57] <Penfold> ==> TCP server running on ('0.0.0.0', 28888) in thread: Thread-1
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[18:57] <Penfold> step 1 :)
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[19:15] <cuddykid> daveake: did you recover bear?
[19:15] <Darkside> yes we did cuddykid
[19:15] <Darkside> http://pipe2.darklomax.org/pics/2012-09-02_UK_HAB_Launch_1/
[19:15] <cuddykid> excellent - well done Darkside daveake
[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> please excuse the stupid question
[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> when I considered the Step-Up DC-DC IC I wondered why they use 50 kHz as a frequency whereas it should be a DC system
[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> why is that
[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> is it the ripple of the voltage?
[19:16] <Darkside> thats the frequency which the boost converter runs at internally
[19:16] <cuddykid> awesome photos Darkside!
[19:17] <cuddykid> glad to hear the people were happy
[19:17] <Darkside> theres a bit of theory behind boost converters Lunar_Lander, go have a look at wikipedia or something
[19:17] <Lunar_Lander> OK thanks
[19:18] <Laurenceb_> http://pipe2.darklomax.org/pics/2012-09-02_UK_HAB_Launch_1/Pages/1.html
[19:18] <Laurenceb_> ^reaction engines somewhere in the background?
[19:19] <Darkside> ?
[19:20] <Laurenceb_> the JET site is somewhere back there
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[19:23] <Laurenceb_> also didcot is Gas+Coal
[19:25] <Laurenceb_> /pedantry
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[19:29] <Darkside> oh
[19:29] <Darkside> choops
[19:29] <Darkside> whoops
[19:29] <Darkside> its all dead dinosaurs
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[19:44] <SamSilver__> i see 3 roof bits of wire > http://pipe2.darklomax.org/pics/2012-09-02_UK_HAB_Launch_1/Pages/3.html
[19:45] <SamSilver__> bet there will be more next week
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[19:47] <G7PMO_Kev> Guys, where is a good place to write up what I am doing, record urls, pics, code snipets, share info with you guys as I go and build a resource that is helpfull to other in the future.
[19:48] <SamSilver__> my opinion is that you do it in word 98 and email it to me
[19:48] <SamSilver__> :-P
[19:49] <SamSilver__> afk java time
[19:49] <G7PMO_Kev> hahaha :)
[19:49] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[19:49] <Lunar_Lander> G7PMO_Kev, I like to use paste.ubuntu.com to show code here
[19:49] <Lunar_Lander> and github is good
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[19:51] <DrLuke> somebody once said there was a HABber offering pcb-manufacturing in here
[19:51] <G7PMO_Kev> Is http://ukhas.org.uk/frontpage:projects a good place to build a page?
[19:51] <DrLuke> who is he and how do I contact him?
[19:51] <jonsowman> G7PMO_Kev: yes it is
[19:52] <G7PMO_Kev> GIT seems a bit ott for me at the moment
[19:52] <G7PMO_Kev> I dont need a CVS
[19:53] <jonsowman> G7PMO_Kev: if you do something or make something that is particularly novel or generic, perhaps consider making a seperate page for that
[19:53] <jonsowman> or in fact something that has been done before, but you're going to document it very well
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[19:54] <jonsowman> this is the place for such things
[19:54] <jonsowman> http://ukhas.org.uk/frontpage:guides
[19:55] <G7PMO_Kev> I'll hide on the project page for now, and then if people think it is good we can promote it :)
[19:55] <jonsowman> sure
[19:57] <Penfold> I'll document my ubuntu+mac SDR setup if I get it working
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[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> hi Paradoxia
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[20:17] <Paradoxia> Hi Lunar
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[20:21] <Laurenceb_> http://pipe2.darklomax.org/pics/2011-10-05_Nerf_Event/Pages/3.html
[20:21] <Laurenceb_> wut
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[20:24] <Darkside> yeeeeeeeeeeah
[20:24] <Darkside> he wears short shorts
[20:24] <Darkside> (he rode into uni tht day)
[20:25] <LazyL_M0LEP> That'd be somewhere antipodean...
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[20:28] <Laurenceb_> lol my microwave is killing my wifi
[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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[20:46] <DrLuke> so anybody got an idea about the pcb-guy?
[20:46] <DrLuke> I think mitch was his name?
[20:47] <Darkside> yes
[20:47] <Darkside> mjd@hackvana.com
[20:47] <Darkside> email him for a quote
[20:47] <DrLuke> thanks!
[20:47] <Laurenceb_> Darkside you fail at photo labelling
[20:47] <Laurenceb_> http://pipe2.darklomax.org/pics/2011-07-24_Skyline_Walk/Pages/16.html
[20:47] <Laurenceb_> thats not a jersey
[20:47] <Darkside> i don't know cows
[20:47] <Darkside> what is it
[20:47] <DrLuke> aww it's so cute
[20:48] <Laurenceb_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holstein_cattle
[20:48] <Darkside> bah
[20:48] <Darkside> whatver
[20:48] <LazyL_M0LEP> Heh
[20:49] Nick change: LazyL_M0LEP -> LazyLeopard
[20:49] <Darkside> im going to bed
[20:49] <Darkside> stop trawling my photos..
[20:49] <Laurenceb_> :P
[20:49] <Darkside> nn
[20:49] <Laurenceb_> cya
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[21:28] <G7PMO_Kev> Guys, what kind of Software Logic do people use for connecting the GPS to the Radio module? Slow the GPS down to output at a rate slow enough for the Radio? Only take a sentance from the GPS when the Radio has finished tx'in and throw away the rest? Ask the GPS for a sentance only when we are ready?
[21:29] <MrScienceMan> turn off constant output and request a sentance when needed
[21:30] <G7PMO_Kev> ok, ta
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[21:31] <Upu> or you can read a sentence of data in via the serial port
[21:31] <Upu> process it
[21:31] <Upu> then transmit it
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[21:35] <natrium42> what what in the serial port
[21:36] <Upu> NMEA natrium42 :) Evening
[21:36] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[21:36] <Upu> hey lunar sorry I missed you last night
[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> no problem
[21:40] <natrium42> hello {Upu, Lunar_Lander}
[21:41] <griffonbot> Received email: Dave B "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=5BUKHAS=5D_Re=3A_=A0Error_in_APRS_Tracker_Code?="
[21:41] <jonsowman> good one griffonbot
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> xD natrium42
[21:55] <G7PMO_Kev> Right, project JimBob well underway, http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:jimbob Time for some sleep now, thanks for all your help.
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> gn8 G7PMO_Kev
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[22:06] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Bot flummoxed by character encoding. ;)
[22:07] <jonsowman> poor griffonbot
[22:07] <jonsowman> it's been a long day
[22:07] Action: LazyLeopard knows that feeling... ;)
[22:08] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Unmitigated greyness all weekend. Ad the forecast for Monday is... Sunshine! Typical...
[22:09] Action: jonsowman is going to Spain on Tuesday
[22:09] <LazyLeopard> Have fun. ;)
[22:09] <jonsowman> Ta, I will!
[22:10] Action: LazyLeopard needs sleep... G'night.
[22:10] <jonsowman> see you
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[22:11] <DrLuke> anybody got an idea why eagle isolates my groundplane from the edge like this? http://i50.tinypic.com/3c75e.png
[22:12] <jonsowman> it's good practice to keep it away from the routing lines
[22:12] <DrLuke> oh hey nevermind, I found it
[22:12] <zyp> because you have your design rules set to do that
[22:12] <DrLuke> yep
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[22:28] <DrLuke> whipped up a little board around the TPS61016DGS: http://i45.tinypic.com/fonmex.png
[22:29] <DrLuke> any opinions on the layout?
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[22:33] <DrLuke> phew, found an error
[22:33] <DrLuke> the pins on the top left are marked falsely
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