highaltitude.log.20120831

[00:00] <gonzo__> assume the 100gm;s will appear on Steve's site soon
[00:00] <daveake> I guess so. I think he was going to do more tests, but best ask him.
[00:05] <gonzo__> no data on the wiki for those but look to be very useful envelopes
[00:05] <gonzo__> not needing a notam is a big plus
[00:05] <daveake> very big
[00:09] <gonzo__> btw, is there a shelf life for latex balloons? Not seen any mention
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[00:10] <daveake> If kept in the bag away from light then "years"
[00:10] <daveake> Upu and I flew one that he'd had for more than a year
[00:11] <daveake> It did well
[00:13] <gonzo__> rgr that's ok. Years rather than months
[00:13] <daveake> Yes
[00:14] <Lunar_Lander> btw does someone have Matlab/Scilab experience?
[00:15] <daveake> When there were some 1600s that only got to ~27km, Steve asked Hwoyee if it was because they were from a certain batch. They said that all the ones he'd bought in the last year(ish) were from the same batch, which implies that they get made in large batches then get stored till they need to run another batch of the same size
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[00:18] <gonzo__> suspect lots sold (well offered for sale) on ebay are donkeys years old
[00:18] <daveake> Those brownish ex-military ones? Those are ancient
[00:19] <gonzo__> seen totex ones for sale. Not sure of the colour
[00:20] <daveake> I'm thinking of these things - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GIANT-Weather-Balloon-Meteorological-Military-8-Dia-/330718667819?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d005e642b#ht_2526wt_1397
[00:22] <gonzo__> 1982!
[00:23] <daveake> yup
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[00:23] <gonzo__> vintage habbing. Must have a valve tx !
[00:26] <Lunar_Lander> good night
[00:26] <daveake> nnLL
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[00:26] <gonzo__> yep getting late. gn
[00:27] <daveake> me too
[00:27] <daveake> gn
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[05:07] <Burninate> http://www.gpsboomerang.com/
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[05:50] <radim_OM2AMR> Burninate: very interesting ;-) good inspiration
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[08:43] <G7PMO_Kev> Morning
[08:44] <G7PMO_Kev> I see Cloud and Bear on spacenear.us, are they about to be launched this morning?
[08:45] <Darkside> no
[08:45] <Darkside> sunday
[08:46] <Penfold> might even have a receiver up by then D
[08:46] <Penfold> :D
[08:46] <G7PMO_Kev> ahh ok, it is just testing that is showing them this morning?
[08:46] <daveake> Yeah Sunday
[08:46] <daveake> Yep
[08:46] <daveake> I like to test it's all live thru to the map before the day
[08:47] Action: Gadget-Mac ponders a callsign change
[08:47] <G7PMO_Kev> I have a reciever here, keen to try it :)
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[08:47] <daveake> Unlike 10 mins before the launch like some :p
[08:47] <Penfold> :D
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[08:47] <Gadget-Mac> daveake: I'm thinking amateur radio callsign :)
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[08:48] <Darkside> Gadget-Mac: well the launches aren't under an amateur radio licence
[08:48] <Darkside> i mean, teh transmissions aren't
[08:48] <G7PMO_Kev> I was wondering why you might chose to launch with a predicted landing in the sea :)
[08:48] <daveake> My lips are sealed
[08:48] <daveake> Things will change between now and Sunday
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[08:48] <G7PMO_Kev> indeed
[08:48] <Penfold> :D
[08:48] <Gadget-Mac> Darkside: I know :) But all this HAD stuff has got me thinking about getting back into ham stuff again
[08:49] <Penfold> was about to say 'not planning on gettin' 'em back then?' :D
[08:49] <daveake> Yes, I don't have an amateur licence anyway, but if I did it weouldn't make any difference - airborne transmissions are only allowed on the unlicence bands
[08:49] <daveake> and powers
[08:49] <Darkside> in the UK anyway
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[08:49] <Penfold> and god knows there's enough crud around 434 :D
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[08:55] <G7PMO_Kev> Is "Radio Horizon" - the Blue circle, based on height of the transmitter? Ie and hence does it mena that if the rx is not within the blue circle you have no chance of recieving?
[08:55] <Darkside> well there's always tropospheric ducting
[08:55] <Darkside> which has happened
[08:56] <G7PMO_Kev> understand radio doesnt always follow the rules, but I am still understanding the basics at the moment - ie is that what the blue circle is instende to show 90% of the time?
[08:58] <G7PMO_Kev> and I dont understand the explination for the green circle "payload is 5' above the horizon (green)" - could somone try explaining differently please :)
[08:59] <UpuWork> hi Kevin
[08:59] <UpuWork> glad you found us
[08:59] <UpuWork> the 5 degree horizon is the point where you should get a really good signal
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[09:00] <UpuWork> [23:19] <jonsowman> the 5deg horizon is the "almost guaranteed good signal" horizon
[09:00] <UpuWork> [23:19] <jonsowman> between 0 and 5 deg it's antenna dependent
[09:00] <costyn> don't we have a bot on this channel? the bot on our work channel has an 'info' feature where you can store and later retrieve simple texts by way of a keyword
[09:01] <costyn> we use it for quick reminders
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[09:01] <costyn> could use it here to quickly retrieve info on the blue/green circles for instance, or other FAQs
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[09:02] <UpuWork> Radio Horizon assumes your at 0 meters ASL I think
[09:02] <UpuWork> which is why I regularly recieve stuff way outside it (at 300meters)
[09:05] <G7PMO_Kev> Sorry, I'm stiill confused, Is the green circle based on rx position, or tx position? The Green circle seems to be 1 circle for the whole map, blue's are per tx?
[09:06] <UpuWork> its ok its confusing
[09:07] <UpuWork> blue circles are generated on the fly from the payloads current location and indicate the radio horizon assuming reciever is at 0 meters ASL
[09:07] <UpuWork> green circles are also generated on the fly from the payloads current location and indicate the 5' horizon
[09:08] <costyn> what extra info does the 5' horizon give?
[09:08] <costyn> I mean, when is it useful to have this info?
[09:09] <UpuWork> its not entirely useful
[09:09] <UpuWork> I'd ignore the green circle
[09:09] <UpuWork> it was one of those things that probably seemed like a good idea at the time
[09:10] <G7PMO_Kev> ahhh, I see the little green circles on the map when I zoom in - the 1 huge green circle was confusing me
[09:10] <UpuWork> yeah
[09:10] <G7PMO_Kev> I could have sworn your logic was the wrong way around - because I was looking at the 1 huge green circle on the map
[09:10] <G7PMO_Kev> what is the hue green circle?
[09:10] <UpuWork> that belongs to WDHAB
[09:11] <UpuWork> it still thinks its at 25km altitude as no further data was recieved from that payload
[09:11] <costyn> which is still at 25KM
[09:11] <G7PMO_Kev> because it stoped transmitting at significant altitude?
[09:11] <G7PMO_Kev> yup,
[09:11] <UpuWork> yep
[09:11] <G7PMO_Kev> now it makes sense :)
[09:11] <G7PMO_Kev> thankyou
[09:11] <UpuWork> as you can see at 25km it stretches out to Belgium and the Netherlands
[09:11] <UpuWork> no problems
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[09:12] <UpuWork> I assume with as you are G7PMO you have something that can recieve 70cms SSB ?
[09:12] <G7PMO_Kev> and zooming out further an even bigger blue circle for WDHABE...
[09:13] <UpuWork> thats the one
[09:14] Action: daveake wonders what size circle it made when at -32km
[09:14] <UpuWork> google maps imploded
[09:14] <daveake> Google Core
[09:14] <costyn> hehehe
[09:14] <kokey> there's really something up with the flat I live in
[09:15] <kokey> I thought the rtl-sdr just performed really badly
[09:15] <G7PMO_Kev> I am suprised at those altitudes the circles are not bigger? I mean I assume at infinity high you get a circle covering 1/2 the world,
[09:15] <kokey> but the scanner I bought is also having trouble inside the flat
[09:15] <UpuWork> well yes but we don't go to infinity
[09:15] <daveake> Well, we've yet to get one that high
[09:15] <UpuWork> well daveake does, and beyond
[09:15] <daveake> lol
[09:16] <UpuWork> at 40km from Cambridge we can be recieved in Denmark
[09:16] <G7PMO_Kev> heheehheh
[09:16] <UpuWork> just
[09:16] <UpuWork> OZ1SKY has recieved a few
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[09:17] <UpuWork> he holds the reception range record 780km @ 10mW 70cms
[09:17] <G7PMO_Kev> I suppose 25km high (WDHABE) isnt actually that high in relation to distance across the ground, ie diameter of the world is 12,000km
[09:18] <daveake> quite
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[09:20] <G7PMO_Kev> 1 more Q, then I have to do some real work - do we know why WDHAB stopped tx'ing?
[09:26] <Penfold> G7PMO_Kev: 40,000 / pi, but yes, close enough :D
[09:29] <UpuWork> you'd have to speak to Willduckworth whos payload it was
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[09:34] <G7PMO_Kev> Penfold - Mike Whitaker, not the MIke that used to work at Demon Internet 10+ years ago?
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[09:37] <Penfold> G7PMO_Kev: the very same, sir.
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[09:53] <G7PMO_Kev> Wow, small world, Kevin Walton here....
[09:54] <Penfold> heh. very small world. How the devil are you?
[09:54] <G7PMO_Kev> I can almost see you stood amongst the sys admins in Finchley :)
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[09:54] <G7PMO_Kev> Im very good thanks, and yourself?
[09:55] <navrac_work> wdhabe stopped transmitting on the way down because the batteries died and the tx started wandering around on frequency as the gps current draw changed, making it untrackable
[09:55] <Penfold> not any more - warehouse lead developer for LOVEFiLM in Peterborough
[09:55] <Penfold> which makes for a ery nice 13min commute
[09:56] <G7PMO_Kev> Wow, very nice, I got made redundant from Thus 7 years ago, working for Fujitsu as a Solution owner for new logo business now - getting made redundant was the best thing that could have happened in hind sight...
[09:57] <G7PMO_Kev> Im not far from you in Wellingborough, Northants...
[09:58] <Penfold> *grin*
[10:01] <G7PMO_Kev> Navrac - thanks, looking at the telemetry export that makes sense, started at 5.9v, died at 3.5v
[10:02] <G7PMO_Kev> Penfold - so have u launched any balloons, or you just an interested party?
[10:03] <Gadget-Mac> yay working SDR :)
[10:04] <G7PMO_Kev> Gadget - :) Which radio? I have an eztv on order
[10:04] <navrac_work> last partial packets when it went wobbly showed the battery level to be 3.3v - I got a lot of strings with tiny checksum errors so probably only 50% of the strings got uploaded
[10:05] <Gadget-Mac> G7PMO_Kev: it's a newsky one, E4000 based dongle
[10:05] <Penfold> just an interested party - building an SDR stack at present
[10:06] <Penfold> as above, E4000 dongle, just shaving the necessary yaks to get borip_server running under ubuntu
[10:06] <Gadget-Mac> borip ?
[10:07] <Penfold> Gadget-Mac: allows me to plug dongle upstairs int0 USB->CAT5->USB->Ubuntu box ===> borip_server => LAN => HDSDR under Wine on Macbook in comfort of armchair
[10:07] <Gadget-Mac> Nice sounds ideal
[10:07] <Penfold> or even ===> WAN ===> Macbook @ work
[10:08] <Gadget-Mac> USB->cat5 is just an extender ?
[10:08] <Penfold> yup, with active boost
[10:08] <Gadget-Mac> Sounds great.
[10:08] <Gadget-Mac> Would a RPi be good enough to run the borip server ?
[10:09] Action: Gadget-Mac has ordered more dongles :)
[10:09] <Penfold> I dunno, Can't see why not if it has the IO b/w and is man enough to run Python and a gnuradio install fast enough
[10:10] <Penfold> I'm idly toying with a RPi and a Perl-based stack as a payload, but I'm sad like that.
[10:11] <Gadget-Mac> :)
[10:11] <G7PMO_Kev> I seem to remember Perl always was your thing Mike :)
[10:11] <Penfold> *grins*
[10:12] <kokey> I write a lot of perl still
[10:12] <kokey> though I'd rather do something in C for a launch
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[10:16] <Penfold> kokey: no argument that C will be fast*er*. I'm just curious as to whether well-written Perl would be fast *enough* and more importantly as/less prone to problems.
[10:21] <Gadget-Mac> I guess the problem with the Pi is USB contention
[10:22] <eroomde> if you're willing to spend more like £50-£60 there are things like the beaglebone, which are really a lot better set up as linux single board computers for EE stuff
[10:22] <eroomde> hardware ethernet on-chip, etc
[10:23] <Penfold> eroomde: true
[10:24] <kokey> Penfold: probably not a major performance difference, the difference would be if you want to run a whole OS and the stack on the system or not
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[10:26] <griffonbot> Received email: Adam Cudworth "[UKHAS] Re: Potential Launch This Thursday (30/08/2012) - Worcester Area"
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[10:28] <Gadget-Mac> eroomde: at £60 you're almost at microserver level
[10:29] <G7PMO_Kev> Postman has just arrived with lots of nice things :) Arduinio board, GPS module, tx module, etc :)
[10:29] <Penfold> sweet
[10:31] <Gadget-Mac> Would love to have the dongle , and something to convert to tcpip in one box :)
[10:32] <Gadget-Mac> Plug in ethernet with POE, and antenna, off you go :)
[10:32] <Penfold> Gadget: heh. smallest box possible to run borip_server, or some equivalent that just streams the data from the dongle...
[10:33] <Penfold> thatr can't be so hard, surely? USB datastream over something....
[10:33] <Gadget-Mac> Yup. You've got it :)
[10:33] <Penfold> http://usbip.sourceforge.net
[10:34] <Gadget-Mac> hmm.
[10:34] <Penfold> as a first wild-arsed google hit
[10:34] <Gadget-Mac> Wonder if that'll work
[10:34] <Penfold> it's an interesting idea
[10:35] <Penfold> you COULD run that on a PI, as only one USB. one Ether.
[10:35] <G7PMO_Kev> Penfold, Matt Bennett-Blacklock, another ex Demonite has just stated his intentions do work toward a balloon launch on Facebook - I have invited him here...
[10:36] <Penfold> cool
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[10:37] <G7PMO_Kev> hey Matt
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[10:39] <G7PMO_Kev> Hi Matt?
[10:40] <_2e0esc> Hi!
[10:41] <_2e0esc> I signed back in after our little conversation :-)
[10:41] <G7PMO_Kev> :)
[10:42] <G7PMO_Kev> It's a small world - just noticed u went to Bradford Uni, same as I.
[10:42] <_2e0esc> ah yes, didn't know that either
[10:42] <eroomde> you're from hertfordshire
[10:42] <eroomde> that's a good place for ballooning
[10:43] <_2e0esc> sadly I've moved eroomde
[10:43] <eroomde> because hurricanes hardly ever happen
[10:43] <_2e0esc> London now
[10:43] <eroomde> ah right
[10:43] <eroomde> less good
[10:43] <gonzo__> it's a big world. Just there are some very small circles in it!
[10:43] <G7PMO_Kev> Do you know / remember Mike Whitaker - he is here as Penfold, another ex Demonite, maybe a bit before your time if my memory serves...
[10:43] <G7PMO_Kev> gonzo - :)
[10:44] <_2e0esc> I think that was before my time
[10:44] <Penfold> 1996-7 in my case
[10:44] <_2e0esc> I started at just the wrong time
[10:44] <G7PMO_Kev> why wrong time Matt?
[10:44] <_2e0esc> after sale
[10:44] <_2e0esc> 2001 I think
[10:44] <G7PMO_Kev> ok
[10:45] <_2e0esc> much of the fun had already been had
[10:45] <_2e0esc> not that I didn't enjoy it
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[10:46] <_2e0esc> well I've dropped in here twice to read the chat on days there have been launches
[10:46] <_2e0esc> had no idea I knew anyone
[10:46] <_2e0esc> small world indeed
[10:46] <Penfold> :D
[10:46] <_2e0esc> or small circles
[10:46] <_2e0esc> as gonzo__ says
[10:46] <G7PMO_Kev> my Arduinio, gps and tx's arrived 5 mins ago, I better go get some work done, so I can start building later :)
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[10:47] <Penfold> fun ? :D yeah. I have vivid memories of being in some Monday's at 8am and being pretty sure I would be the only person in the NOC team not either hungover or still high.
[10:47] <G7PMO_Kev> I have only started in the detail of this last weekend, going to get a tracker built and working, then I got to think about balloons and Helium.....
[10:47] <_2e0esc> Penfold: sounds fair assessment
[10:48] <G7PMO_Kev> being show where the acid tabs lived in the fridge will always be in my memory :)
[10:48] <_2e0esc> G7PMO_Kev: I had a couple of Arduino Uno boards so I started with that. I have GPS and some NTX2
[10:48] <Penfold> *boggle* I missed that.
[10:49] <G7PMO_Kev> (at a certain persons house just over the road to be fair)
[10:49] <Penfold> hehs.
[10:49] <_2e0esc> not hard to guess
[10:50] <Penfold> Mondays of 'what we got up to in Amsterdam's clubs last night' and a certain american security admin proclaimng to most anyone whop'd listen that he was stil sufficiently out of his head on something that his vision was screwed in interestingly psychedelic ways
[10:50] <G7PMO_Kev> :)
[10:51] <griffonbot> Received email: Solar Balloonman "[UKHAS] Re: Joey Launch - EMF Camp - This Weekend"
[10:51] <G7PMO_Kev> Another vivid memory, a certain american security admin turning up at our house in Lycra and roller blade :)
[10:52] <G7PMO_Kev> Great pics from HABE yesterday - http://www.flickr.com/photos/acudworth/7895185368/in/set-72157631323743662/
[10:52] <Penfold> yes!
[10:52] <Penfold> NIIICE
[10:52] <_2e0esc> I shall take a look
[10:52] <G7PMO_Kev> anyone got the american security admin on FB?
[10:53] <Penfold> he's survived this long! :D
[10:55] <G7PMO_Kev> Given today's suprises so far, I wouldnt be surprised if Tim Preston and Philip Plant turn up here soon :)
[10:57] <G7PMO_Kev> The certain security admin doesn't appear to be in Dave's friends list, so.....
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[10:57] <Penfold> good lord, is Dave still around?
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[10:58] <G7PMO_Kev> http://www.facebook.com/i.am.footle
[10:58] <costyn> getting an error on the predictor; anybody else? ServerError: 'Server error 0: "/gfs/gfs20120831/gfs_06z is not an available dataset"'
[10:59] <daveake> Wait a little while
[10:59] <daveake> I think what's happening is that the wind data is coming in later than expected, so the predictor is looking for the next dataset to arrive not the one that's actually present
[10:59] <costyn> ok
[11:00] <daveake> I got the same early this morning
[11:00] <daveake> I suppose it should revert to the previous dataset if the current one isn't available
[11:00] <Penfold> G7PMO_Kev: hah. not changed much. if at all/
[11:01] <G7PMO_Kev> Pen - indeed :)
[11:03] <jonsowman> it searches for the latest and then tries to get it
[11:03] <jonsowman> however the NOAA publish a link for a datasheet before it's actually available sometimes
[11:03] <daveake> ah
[11:04] <daveake> nice of them
[11:04] <jonsowman> one day i'll fix it
[11:04] <jonsowman> as you say, it should keep trying going back in time until it finds one
[11:07] <_2e0esc> work happened for a bit then, not seen footle for a while
[11:09] <_2e0esc> G7PMO_Kev: let me know how you get on with your arduino I shall be starting with independent systems for reading data and logging it and transmitting as per the guide
[11:09] <G7PMO_Kev> "independent systems"?
[11:10] <costyn> jonsowman: thanks for the explanation
[11:12] <daveake> yes, thanks
[11:14] <_2e0esc> G7PMO_Kev: Get all the subsystems working independently before looking to integrate things
[11:15] <Penfold> Gadget-Mac: also http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-a-usb-over-ip-server-and-client-with-ubuntu-10.04
[11:15] <Gadget-Mac> Penfold: might give that a go later
[11:16] <Penfold> not sure it has os x binaries yet
[11:18] <G7PMO_Kev> Matt - understood
[11:18] <Penfold> nope - would need a kext
[11:18] <Penfold> http://www.eltima.com/products/usb-over-network-mac/ <-- commercial solution
[11:19] Action: Penfold winces at price. F. that.
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[11:26] <Laurenceb> http://users.ox.ac.uk/~space/photos/hillary2005/IMG4.jpg
[11:26] <Laurenceb> lolling
[11:29] <Penfold> Gadget-Mac: one last link - http://www.riccardoriva.com/blog/?p=19
[11:30] <Penfold> interesting option - http://pandaboard.org/content/resources/getting-started
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[11:33] <Penfold> poot: http://omappedia.org/wiki/PandaBoard_FAQ#Can_PandaBoard_be_powered_by_battery_.3F
[11:35] <daveake> Ooer, I see there's a notam for a balloon release from Childrey in Oxon, a few miles from here, for 3 weeks starting Sunday. Wonder who that is ...
[11:36] <Penfold> not you? :D
[11:37] <daveake> Not me :)
[11:37] <daveake> Got mine through just now, for Sunday
[11:37] <daveake> Might call or text the owner to find out
[11:38] <Penfold> RPi - Despatch expected in 13 week(s)
[11:38] <Penfold> sigh
[11:38] <Laurenceb> lol
[11:38] <Penfold> maybe I'll wait :D
[11:39] <Laurenceb> wonder how many they have sold
[11:39] <Laurenceb> bet demain has increased due to video codecs
[11:39] <costyn> fsphil: got his in like 2 weeks or so
[11:39] <Laurenceb> they need gpu accelerated graphics
[11:40] <daveake> costyn That's karma, because he normally has to wait months for notams :D
[11:40] <costyn> true
[11:40] <costyn> :)
[11:40] <daveake> I had to wait about 2 months for my pi boards
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[11:55] <G7PMO_Kev> how long does a NOTAM typically take to get approved?
[11:55] <daveake> Officially 28 days, and for a first one I suggest you allow at least that
[11:56] <daveake> And then call for confirmation say 3 days before the launch date
[11:56] <daveake> Afterwards it seems to be easier :)
[11:57] <daveake> They're busier in the summer, with air shows etc
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[12:11] <G7PMO_Kev> ta
[12:19] <Gadget-Mac> Penfold: ok looks like usbip isn't going to 'just' work on PI :(
[12:20] <zyp> what are you trying to achieve?
[12:23] <Gadget-Mac> zyp: looking at various ways to use dongle tuners remotely
[12:24] <BrainDamage> rtl_tcp ?
[12:25] <Gadget-Mac> Well we started out talking about borip, then moved to usbip
[12:25] <Penfold> Gadget: shame
[12:26] <zyp> Gadget-Mac, but you aren't interested in transporting the full usb metadata, you just want the received samples
[12:26] <zyp> so stop adding unnecessary complexity
[12:27] <Gadget-Mac> zyp, depends does the Pi have enough cpu to do anything useful
[12:31] <craag> This might be relevant: http://g0orx.blogspot.co.uk/
[12:31] <craag> The 'dspserver' software handles the demodulation, and a branch exists for the rtl_sdr.
[12:31] <Gadget-Mac> craag: cool
[12:32] <craag> dspserver is a subproject of QTRadio: http://napan.ca/ghpsdr3/index.php/Main_Page
[12:33] <craag> I haven't had a chance to actually play around with it yet, but it does look like it might work!
[12:33] <Gadget-Mac> tbh, I'd be happy to be able to put the pi , and dongle remote, and do the smallest amount of processing required
[12:34] <craag> If you have the network bandwidth from the Pi => client, then rtl_tcp is your answer.
[12:34] <craag> It just sends the IQ samples over the network.
[12:34] <BrainDamage> use rtl_tcp then
[12:35] <kokey> does anyone know if latex can withstand bleach?
[12:35] <craag> I'm looking at trying to have the Pi remotely on a 3G connection, hence why I've been looking into demodulation on the Pi!
[12:35] <kokey> I know this is probably well OT, but I'm trying to figure out how to block a toilet
[12:36] <Penfold> ooo. interesting. wasn't aware of QTRadio, AND there's a mac branch
[12:36] <Penfold> given the headache I'm having getting gr-baz to build on ubuntu, it mighgt be worth a look
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[12:37] <kokey> I initially built gnuradio and the rtlsdr stuff on ubuntu under vmware on my mac
[12:37] <costyn> kokey: block? or unblock?
[12:37] <kokey> took ages and took 4GB of disk and performed badly
[12:37] <kokey> I have no built gnuradio with the rtlsdr stuff on OSX with macports, and it peforms a lot better
[12:38] Action: Gadget-Mac builds rtl_sdr on a pi
[12:38] <kokey> costyn: block, I was thinking of filling a balloon with water to block it
[12:39] <costyn> kokey: afaik latex will withstand bleach
[12:39] <costyn> kokey: hairdressers use gloves when bleaching hair
[12:39] <kokey> aah, yeah, that's true
[12:39] <zyp> Gadget-Mac, I didn't say it could do anything useful, I just say it's utterly pointless to relay the full usb signalling
[12:39] <costyn> 'latex gloves' and 'bleach' in google gives lots of other examples that seem to suggest ther'es no interaction
[12:40] <Penfold> kokey: can get gnuradio working, just having headaches with gr-baz and borip_servre
[12:41] <kokey> I gave up on gr-baz on OSX and just use the osmo stuff
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[12:44] <Gadget-Mac> Yay it lives http://pastebin.com/wXZEuh3t
[12:44] <kokey> costyn: ah you just gave me an awesome idea, I'll just use hair bleach in a paste
[12:46] <costyn> kokey: what mischief are you getting into, seriously :)
[12:52] <Gadget-Mac> Just need to sort out the 'server' end now
[12:54] <Penfold> Gadget: may have to bug you for the details of what you're doing there when I get home :D
[12:55] <kokey> costyn: really boring domestic stuff, cleaning a toilet where a pumice stone doesn't even work
[12:57] <costyn> kokey: ah, so you want the bleach to sit in the toilet for long periods of time
[12:59] <Gadget-Mac> Penfold: sure. Just need to work out what to do to get a receiver running
[12:59] <gonzo__> is that HAB-bog?
[13:06] <fsphil> costyn: CPC and cool components have the RPI in stock
[13:06] <fsphil> I got one within 2 days :)
[13:06] <costyn> fsphil: amazing
[13:06] <fsphil> yea I think it's a record :)
[13:07] <fsphil> I'm still waiting on the one I ordered from RS when they first went on sale
[13:07] <costyn> hahaha
[13:07] <fsphil> keep getting emails saying it's been delayed
[13:08] <costyn> might as well cancel your order now
[13:08] <costyn> or do you want to see how long it'll take for shits & giggles
[13:08] <fsphil> yea, I've got a couple already - though they sold it with a nice case
[13:08] <costyn> RS?
[13:08] <fsphil> yea
[13:08] <fsphil> the more I have the more likely I'll do something stupid like launching it on a balloon
[13:08] <costyn> hehehe
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[13:09] <zyp> I have both a beaglebone and a rpi collecting dust now
[13:09] <fsphil> the h.264 encoding should be interesting
[13:10] <fsphil> I have a nest box webcam, considering putting the RPI and the camera they're releasing into the box
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[13:10] <fsphil> depends on how good the camera is
[13:14] <kokey> costyn: I happen to have some bleach left from when I dyed by beard lighter for fancy dress as poseidon
[13:17] <griffonbot> Received email: Kevin Walton "Re: [UKHAS] XABEN33 posponed."
[13:17] <griffonbot> Received email: Wouter Weggelaar [PA3WEG] "[UKHAS] Re: Error in APRS Tracker Code"
[13:19] <gonzo__> the camera would not be released, if it's going into the box phil. It would still be in captivity
[13:21] <Laurenceb> is anything getting launched today?
[13:21] <cuddykid> http://youtu.be/Rih-I1rnnqg
[13:21] <cuddykid> not sure why it didn't upload in HD&
[13:23] <fsphil> Pi Watch
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[13:24] <costyn> cuddykid: if you click on HD the quality is a lot better
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[13:24] <costyn> cuddykid: ugh... getting nauseous from watching it already :)
[13:24] <cuddykid> costyn: ah yes, didn't see the HD option there, it should be 1080p
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[13:24] <cuddykid> lol, yeah
[13:24] <fsphil> ah, a spinny one?
[13:24] <costyn> rather
[13:24] <cuddykid> very windy on the ground
[13:25] <costyn> now display it on imax and you've got a cinema of instantly sick people
[13:25] <costyn> cuddykid: speed = horizontal speed?
[13:25] <cuddykid> costyn: believe so
[13:26] <costyn> cuddykid: bandit stopped at the end of the film?
[13:26] <cuddykid> recorded until batts conked out at ~30km (just before burst)
[13:26] <costyn> oh ok, so this is just takeoff
[13:26] <cuddykid> I'll upload latter bits now, but the lens gets extremely fogged up >3km :(
[13:26] <cuddykid> yep
[13:27] <cuddykid> contacted the engineers and they're going to work on a non-fogging solution
[13:27] <Laurenceb> http://www.indiegogo.com/komputerdlakamila
[13:27] <costyn> cuddykid: ok, that's cool of them
[13:27] <costyn> Laurenceb: my Polish isn't that great :(
[13:27] <cuddykid> yeah, they've been v good :)
[13:28] <costyn> oh wait
[13:28] <cuddykid> as you'll see, the video is like an alcoholics trip to near space - get's progressively worse and sound becomes more distant lol
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[13:28] <costyn> haha
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[13:57] <MrScienc1Man> apperantly, phoenix lost their chute when the balloon bursted
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[13:59] <costyn> MrScienc1Man: define "lost"?
[13:59] <costyn> MrScienc1Man: rather, elaborat?
[13:59] <MrScienc1Man> detached
[13:59] <costyn> how?
[13:59] <MrScienc1Man> cord couldnt handle the force
[14:00] <MrScienc1Man> there is a frame in the video
[14:00] <MrScienc1Man> where you can see the chute pretty far aaway from the payload
[14:01] <x-f> it came down from 30+ km with out a chute and was recovered?
[14:01] <MrScienc1Man> yep
[14:01] <MrScienc1Man> no damage
[14:01] <x-f> how light was it?
[14:01] <costyn> MrScienc1Man: interesting
[14:01] <MrScienc1Man> just above a kilo
[14:01] <x-f> wow
[14:01] <costyn> wow indeed
[14:01] <MrScienc1Man> pfew
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[14:02] <MrScienc1Man> that there was nobody underneat
[14:02] <costyn> yes
[14:02] <MrScienc1Man> that first contact would have hurt
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[14:02] <x-f> impact crater joke was relevant?
[14:02] <costyn> were you reording telemetry to SD card? wonder what speeds it reached
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[14:03] <MrScienc1Man> they were, not sure how accurate is it tho
[14:03] <MrScienc1Man> there should be some data from the 3d accelerometer
[14:04] <x-f> is there a webpage for this project? i'd like to know further details and data
[14:04] <MrScienc1Man> not yet
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[14:07] <MrScienc1Man> $ grep speed TINY_flight_raw_decoded.txt | sort -nrk 2 | head -5
[14:07] <MrScienc1Man> speed: 127.788 km/h
[14:07] <MrScienc1Man> speed: 114.824 km/h
[14:07] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[14:07] <MrScienc1Man> $ grep speed phoenix1_flight_raw_decoded.txt | sort -nrk 2 | head -5
[14:07] <MrScienc1Man> speed: 120.38 km/h
[14:07] <MrScienc1Man> speed: 109.268 km/h
[14:08] <costyn> MrScienc1Man: that's after burst or the last recorded strings?
[14:08] <MrScienc1Man> highest speed, probably achieved after burst
[14:09] <costyn> MrScienc1Man: ah yes, sort -n
[14:09] <costyn> that's not that fast actually
[14:13] <MrScienc1Man> im glad tiny has setup some records to beat
[14:20] <MrScienc1Man> 25min of video encoding
[14:20] <MrScienc1Man> and the audio is out of sync
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[14:49] <griffonbot> Received email: GRAHAM SHIRVILLE "[UKHAS] AMSAT-UK Colloquium - Guildford Sept 15/16th"
[14:56] <eroomde> confirmed
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[15:16] <nick_> How many amateur satelites are in orbit?
[15:19] <eroomde> low tens i think
[15:19] <eroomde> i think the first one went up about 4 years after sputnik
[15:22] <Darkside> there are quite a few in orbit
[15:22] <Darkside> not many are still functional
[15:22] <eroomde> i listened to ao-51 a few times
[15:22] <eroomde> but it dieded
[15:23] <eroomde> a few months ago
[15:23] <gonzo_> oscar 1 was 1961
[15:23] <Darkside> i've made contacts through SO-50 quite a few times
[15:23] <eroomde> i don;t think there are any mom and pop leo fm repeaters now
[15:23] <Darkside> eroomde: SO-50
[15:23] <Darkside> and AO-27
[15:23] <Darkside> the rest are linear transponders i think
[15:23] <gonzo_> the linear transponders are more fun
[15:24] <Darkside> i haven't got the gear to use them yet :(
[15:24] <Darkside> i certainly want to try though
[15:24] <gonzo_> try looking at AO7 on SDR. Quite eductaional
[15:24] <Darkside> hehe
[15:24] <Darkside> yeah i might try that while i'm here
[15:24] <Darkside> as there'll actuall ybe traffic on it
[15:24] <Darkside> over australia, nope
[15:24] <gonzo_> not used a sat for a while. But 27 and 52 were my favouirites
[15:25] <Darkside> 27 is never on over australia
[15:25] <gonzo_> sorry, meant 29
[15:25] <eroomde> i'd be interested in trying it again if there was a big HEO sat
[15:25] <gonzo_> JO29 and HO52
[15:25] <Darkside> eroomde: yeah not going to happen for a while i think
[15:25] <Darkside> wasn't it AO-50 that was the last one of those?
[15:25] <gonzo_> they are still trying to get a launch for the next HEO
[15:26] <gonzo_> AO40 was the last one (P3D)
[15:26] <Darkside> ahh
[15:26] <Darkside> thats it
[15:26] <eroomde> which blew itself up right?
[15:26] <eroomde> a chunk of itself anyway
[15:26] <gonzo_> I just missed it when it died. Was listening for it coming over the horison only a few mins after it's demise
[15:26] <Darkside> yeah there was some kind of pressure wave through it
[15:27] <gonzo_> there was an explosion in fual likes that killed a lot of it. But it still had lots of functionality left
[15:27] <Darkside> this was in the elliptical orbit, right?
[15:27] <eroomde> someone didin;t remove a remove-before-flight seal on the thruster, was what I was told
[15:28] <Darkside> where it travels out, and kind of hangs there while the earth spins below it
[15:28] <gonzo_> recall it was a fuel like that should have been purged, but the purge valve was blocked. So when they fired the engine it blew the line
[15:28] <eroomde> kepler just died a little
[15:28] <eroomde> but yes i guess so darkside
[15:28] <gonzo_> and put nasty chemicals over the insides
[15:28] <Darkside> molniya orbit
[15:29] <eroomde> where you blast a baddy with bionic tentacles into space
[15:29] <gonzo_> yep, it was a cap on the valve that was left on. Appyly was an error in the flight plan for the engine. Earlier valves had a bung, which was missed but ut just popped out.
[15:30] <gonzo_> later valved had a screw cap, which didn't pop out
[15:30] <eroomde> you'd hate to be that guy
[15:30] <Darkside> i wonder how it was recovered after the pressure wave
[15:30] <Darkside> as according tothe amsat site it went silent
[15:30] <gonzo_> was a group effort
[15:30] <eroomde> i like how you keep calling an explosion a 'pressure wave'
[15:30] <eroomde> it's very detached :)
[15:31] <Darkside> heh
[15:31] <Darkside> expensive satellite went bang
[15:31] <gonzo_> it was the 'incident' that forced me to build a 2.4gig down convrtert. Which got me into microwave stuff
[15:32] <eroomde> nice
[15:32] <eroomde> yeah, so a new bird would push me into some microwave stuff
[15:32] <eroomde> probably
[15:33] <gonzo_> I was sat out at 6am in the cold with a bbq grill antenna and an ft290, listening for the TC&C beacon. Was staggered when it just appeared with strong sigs
[15:33] <Darkside> eroomde: amsat fox might do just that then
[15:33] <eroomde> i thought the new fox was just U/V?
[15:34] <Darkside> hrm
[15:34] <Darkside> maybe
[15:34] <gonzo_> my first sat qso was on rtty, 70cm up, 2.4gig down with a ukrane station
[15:34] <Darkside> i know theres a few linear transponder cubesats going up
[15:34] <Darkside> the one with the payload i worked on has one
[15:34] <Darkside> UKube-1
[15:34] <Darkside> that has one of the funcube transponders on it
[15:34] <Darkside> and then theres the standalone funcube cubesat
[15:34] <gonzo_> I've lost track of what's up and planned. Will get up to date at the amsat gig in a couple of weeks
[15:35] <Darkside> hmm what happened to P3E
[15:36] <eroomde> the one i spoke at, Peter Gurzlow was talking about their P5 mars orbiter project
[15:36] <eroomde> now that would be cool
[15:36] <eroomde> pushing the boat out
[15:37] <gonzo_> they are trying to get funding as a trial for the phase 5 mars mission
[15:37] <Darkside> the amsat meeting should be streamed online, right?
[15:37] <gonzo_> the deal is, funding for 2 sats. The p3e as a test, then P5
[15:37] <eroomde> it was when i was there
[15:37] <Darkside> because i'd certainly like to see some of that
[15:38] <gonzo_> not seen mention of the BATC streaming. Last year they were concenred that it was loosing us attendees
[15:38] <gonzo_> so may not stream it. Thiough hopefully they will record and make them avail later
[15:39] <eroomde> that's plausible
[15:39] <eroomde> I must confess I haven't attended one since my first
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[15:40] <gonzo_> it's a good event.virtual visitors don't get to enjoy the sat eve piss up
[15:41] <nick_> How often do these cube sats get a launch?
[15:41] <eroomde> i gave a talk at the rsgb convention the following year. that also had a good sat eve
[15:41] <Darkside> nick_: quite often
[15:42] <Darkside> ugh, the WIA AGM was full of old people
[15:42] <Darkside> at teh dinner they played the national anthem
[15:42] <Darkside> it was a bit weird
[15:42] <nick_> Quite often meaning?
[15:42] <nick_> A couple a year?
[15:42] <gonzo_> the rsgb events are a bit wrinkley
[15:42] <Darkside> nick_: well they launch many at once
[15:43] <Darkside> the WIA event was still cool
[15:43] <gonzo_> the average age of active hams in uk is well into retirement
[15:43] <Darkside> they LOVED the high altitude ballooning presentation
[15:43] <Darkside> and the airborne repeater the next day
[15:43] <gonzo_> you are spoilt over there
[15:44] <Darkside> heh
[15:44] <Darkside> well this was an itneresting one
[15:44] <Darkside> because we're pretty sure the airborne repeater is against regs
[15:44] <Darkside> but we did at the bloody WIA conference, and nobody cared
[15:44] <Darkside> and we're getting a grant from them to fix the bloody repeater too
[15:44] <Darkside> since it has serious intermod issues
[15:45] <Darkside> wow
[15:45] <Darkside> in australia there are 15295 amateur operators
[15:45] <Darkside> thats it
[15:45] <nick_> Wikipedia makes it look like there are cubesat launches about every other year, is this correct?
[15:45] <Darkside> nick_: more often than that
[15:45] <Darkside> and now theres a cubesat launcher on the ISS
[15:47] <nick_> They just open a window and throw it out quickly?
[15:47] <Darkside> lol
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[15:54] <fsphil> Dawn is leaving Vesta soon... http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/feature_stories/Dawn_and_Vesta.asp
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[16:01] <griffonbot> Received email: John Graham-Cumming "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Error in APRS Tracker Code"
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[16:52] <cuddykid> so much quicker uploading these videos over 3G than my home broadband!
[16:52] <cuddykid> it's about 5x the upload speed and doesn't kill the download either
[16:52] <cuddykid> still though.. 43mins until the vid is uploaded..
[16:55] <MrScienceMan> costyn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT_FZrswoys&hd=1
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[17:07] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[17:20] <DrLuke> hey lunar
[17:20] <DrLuke> how's it going with your hab?
[17:22] <Lunar_Lander> well
[17:22] <Lunar_Lander> so-so
[17:22] <Lunar_Lander> http://s.gullipics.com/image/c/d/p/5yvr1d-jc350m-m8c0/IMG1919.jpeg check that out
[17:23] <MrScienceMan> how did that happen ?
[17:24] <Lunar_Lander> wanted to desolder the pins as they were misaligned
[17:24] <Lunar_Lander> and then the track came off
[17:26] <Upu> too much heat
[17:26] <Upu> that your board ?
[17:27] <MrScienceMan> Upu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT_FZrswoys&hd=1
[17:27] <MrScienceMan> flight video of phoenix1
[17:27] <Upu> ok cool will watch that shortly
[17:27] <Upu> just going to cook but got it bookmarked thx
[17:28] <Lunar_Lander> Upu, yeah that's sparkfun's JPEG trigger
[17:32] <Gadget-Mac> Yay. Remote SDR dongle on a Pi :)
[17:34] <Laurenceb> Gadget-Mac: Rpi has enough power to run it?
[17:34] <Laurenceb> power == fast enough cpu
[17:34] <BrainDamage> I'd guess he uses it as mere packet relay system
[17:34] <Gadget-Mac> Pi, is just running rlt_tcp, gqrx is running on my server
[17:35] <Gadget-Mac> Need to find something on OSX that will talk rtl_tcp
[17:35] <Laurenceb> ah
[17:35] <MrScienceMan> pi has line in jack?
[17:35] <Laurenceb> so full data stream goes over ethernet?
[17:35] <Gadget-Mac> Laurenceb: yup
[17:35] <Gadget-Mac> MrScienceMan: nope.
[17:35] <Laurenceb> lot of data
[17:35] <MrScienceMan> audio out jack/
[17:36] <Laurenceb> cant it do audio in over hdmi?
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[17:36] <Gadget-Mac> Yes to audio out jack
[17:36] <Laurenceb> via i2s or womething?
[17:36] <BrainDamage> not really a lot, 3 MB/s top
[17:36] <MrScienceMan> cant it be remaped to line-in ?
[17:36] <MrScienceMan> with cheap chinese radio
[17:36] <Laurenceb> ?
[17:36] <MrScienceMan> it would be awesome
[17:36] <Laurenceb> wut
[17:37] <Laurenceb> im not following
[17:37] <MrScienceMan> i had a sound card that you can remap
[17:37] <MrScienceMan> the ports
[17:37] <MrScienceMan> you can plug the mic in audio out and it turn into mic port
[17:37] <MrScienceMan> im just wondering whenever you can is it as line in on the PI
[17:37] <Gadget-Mac> IF you need line in, just get a usb sound card
[17:37] <MrScienceMan> or that
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[18:03] <cuddykid> here's some more gobandit footage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeE89FmNro8&feature=youtu.be
[18:03] <cuddykid> note the "fogging"!
[18:03] <cuddykid> (alcoholics view of the earth)
[18:04] <Darkside> should have used a gopro :-)
[18:04] <MrScienceMan> q/fq 5
[18:04] <Gadget-Mac> cuddykid: nice.
[18:04] <cuddykid> Darkside: well, got it sent to me free :) they're going to fix the fogging
[18:05] <Darkside> which can really only be done by unsealing that prt of the camera
[18:05] <MrScienceMan> i would love to know how the little interface was done
[18:05] <Darkside> fogging is from moisture condensing
[18:05] <cuddykid> yep, there are some screws and a sort of casing
[18:05] <Darkside> and in a completely waterproof case, theres nowhere for the moistyre to go
[18:05] <cuddykid> which I'll remove
[18:05] <Darkside> hell, even the waterproof gopro case has that problem
[18:05] <Darkside> which is why we don't use it
[18:06] <cuddykid> MrScienceMan: you mean the alt/g-force/speed stuff?
[18:06] <MrScienceMan> yeh
[18:06] <cuddykid> Darkside: yep, I though the area would be free of moisture - obviously not!
[18:06] <Darkside> so did the gps play nice above 18m?
[18:07] <Darkside> i think you mentioned they have different firmware on it
[18:07] <cuddykid> MrScienceMan: it's just a "skin" applied - the go bandit itself has a GPS, accel, gyro etc on board and logs it all :)
[18:07] <cuddykid> Darkside: 24km it conked out
[18:07] <Darkside> hah
[18:07] <MrScienceMan> cuddykid: can you elaborate?
[18:07] <Darkside> i thought the firmware change was supposed to fix that
[18:07] <cuddykid> video still rolled, and accels/gyros worked
[18:07] <MrScienceMan> how do you create the skin from the data?
[18:08] <cuddykid> MrScienceMan: using the gobandit studio software - dead simple, just plug in the camera and it loads all the data off :)
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[18:08] <cuddykid> MrScienceMan: http://www.gobandit.com/studio.php
[18:08] <MrScienceMan> oh
[18:09] <cuddykid> it's a sep GPS to the main tracking one
[18:09] <MrScienceMan> never heard of gobandit before
[18:09] <cuddykid> it's quite a decent bit of kit - cheaper than the go pro to
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[18:11] <MrScienceMan> looks awesome
[18:11] <MrScienceMan> now im wondering how i can create a simular hud from the data i have
[18:13] <Gadget-Mac> I'd like to work out how to store data in a video file for later use (along with the video)
[18:14] <cuddykid> Gadget-Mac: it saves the GPS track in a KML file
[18:14] <cuddykid> so can view it in google earth
[18:14] <Gadget-Mac> Yeah, most of these things do.
[18:15] <cuddykid> atm, can't upload to the go bandit community, but when I can you get the footage along side google maps
[18:15] <MrScienceMan> Gadget-Mac: you can add it as metadata
[18:15] <Gadget-Mac> Sure. I'd like an OSS version of just that :)
[18:16] <MrScienceMan> or outside the media container
[18:16] <MrScienceMan> somewhere where it wont cause crashes :)
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[18:24] <Upu> Great video MrScienceMan
[18:25] <G0DJA> Hi Upu - Box arived OK today - Thanks
[18:25] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: PhoenixSat First flight [HD]: http://t.co/gdVCzEg1 via @youtube #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/241602628843352067]
[18:25] <Upu> nps
[18:26] <G0DJA> I don't suppose you fix drains do you?
[18:26] <Upu> no
[18:26] <Upu> :)
[18:26] <G0DJA> Ah well, it was worth a go ;-)
[18:27] <G0DJA> The one at back of extension has been blocked and when I plunger it water comes up next to the drain :-(
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[18:28] <G0DJA> And which ever cowboy built it didn't put an inspection point between the front and the back of the house...
[18:28] <G0DJA> So can't use the washing machine
[18:29] <Upu> sounds like no fun
[18:30] <G0DJA> Not kidding
[18:30] <gonzo_> a weekend of digging holes
[18:30] <gonzo_> (cue bernard cribbins)
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[18:30] <MrScienc1Man> Upu: :)
[18:30] <MrScienc1Man> its amazing it survived the fall
[18:31] <G0DJA> Can't do this weekend - have to collect Mum brom Brum, drive back here to pick up Kate, go to Grandaughters birthday, then back here to drop Kate and take Mum back to Brum...
[18:31] <Upu> going to put a parachute on the next one ? :)
[18:31] <MrScienc1Man> they did
[18:32] <MrScienc1Man> you can see it
[18:32] <MrScienc1Man> just after the burst
[18:32] <MrScienc1Man> still attached to the balloon remains
[18:32] <Upu> I was being silly
[18:32] <MrScienc1Man> :)
[18:32] <MrScienc1Man> TINY preformed perfectly
[18:32] <MrScienc1Man> except, nobody listened to get a gopro cam for the huge view angle
[18:33] <MrScienc1Man> so the footage is not amazing
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[18:35] <Darkside> the huge view angle is kind of cool, but it distorts the horizon
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[18:37] <jcoxon_> evening all
[18:37] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[18:39] <jcoxon_> hey Lunar_Lander
[18:39] Action: jcoxon_ is back in london
[18:39] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[18:39] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon_, I had a read of your code
[18:40] <Lunar_Lander> that "superbuffer" you use is your method of parsing the data?
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[18:44] <Lunar_Lander> MrScienc1Man, why is there a circle on the ground at the launch field?
[18:44] <MrScienc1Man> oh
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[18:45] <MrScienc1Man> there were some dudes flying small model planes
[18:45] <MrScienc1Man> on a card
[18:45] <MrScienc1Man> cord*
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:45] <jcoxon_> Lunar_Lander, uhuh
[18:45] <MrScienc1Man> no idea whats it called
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok jcoxon_
[18:45] <MrScienc1Man> he holds the cord on one end and the plane flies in the circle
[18:45] <MrScienc1Man> they make some crazy shapes
[18:46] <MrScienc1Man> dont go in the circle if you want to keep your head :)
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[18:46] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[18:47] <MrScienc1Man> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/424282_4121922739034_2107555075_n.jpg
[18:48] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:48] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[18:48] <MrScienc1Man> money shot
[18:48] <MrScienc1Man> they go so fast
[18:48] <MrScienc1Man> took me 3 shots to get it right
[18:49] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[18:56] <Lunar_Lander> btw I am starting to drink tea in these days
[18:57] <Lunar_Lander> when do you drink your tea in britain again?
[18:57] <G0DJA> Where was the Pheonix launched from? Can't recognise the continents from the video
[18:57] <MrScienc1Man> oh
[18:57] <MrScienc1Man> i think its called europe
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[18:58] <G0DJA> Found the original on YouTube = Bulgaria
[18:58] <MrScienc1Man> :)
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[20:14] <griffonbot> Received email: Ed Moore "Re: [UKHAS] AMSAT-UK Colloquium - Guildford Sept 15/16th"
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[20:23] <Upu> Just a heads up if you do want to come to the UKHAS 2012 conference as I type this there are only 3 places left so book quickly or your watching it on batc.tv :)
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander_> XD
[20:24] <Upu> come on Kevin you know you want too
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander_> I got two exams in the days after it
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander_> :(
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[20:27] <Upu> meh
[20:27] <Lunar_Lander_> :(
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[20:30] <G7PMO_Kev> UPU - Id love to, but I already arranged to go flying that weekend, and we have an opportunity to fly up the Thames to the dome, around City airport and back out again :)
[20:31] <Upu> In fairness I'd take that :)
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[20:31] <G7PMO_Kev> :)
[20:31] <fsphil> +1
[20:31] <Upu> evening Radim
[20:31] <radim_OM2AMR> evening Upu
[20:31] <Upu> You got the diplexer ?
[20:32] <Upu> it was you I sent it too ?
[20:32] <radim_OM2AMR> Yes, I confirmed to you week ago :-)
[20:32] <radim_OM2AMR> Many thanks Upu ;-)
[20:32] <Upu> ah ok sorry memory like a sieve
[20:32] <radim_OM2AMR> no prob
[20:32] <Upu> welcome, let me know if/when you fly it
[20:33] <Upu> be interested to know if it works not that I don't trust Darkside's design skills
[20:33] <Upu> I made another one today
[20:33] <Upu> btw Darkside if you do make that again can you pick a 2.2pF capacitor that doesn't cost £1.20 each from the US
[20:33] <costyn> lol
[20:34] <Laurenceb_> "Has any UKHAS activist received a request "
[20:34] <radim_OM2AMR> For our first flight we decided to use two antennas
[20:34] <Laurenceb_> activist?!
[20:34] <Laurenceb_> lol
[20:34] <costyn> as opposed to passivists?
[20:34] <costyn> :P
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[20:34] <Darkside> Upu: hahahah
[20:34] <Upu> understandable radim_OM2AMR
[20:34] <Darkside> Upu: youc an use another 2.2pf capacitor
[20:34] <Darkside> i just picked 'good' ones
[20:35] <Darkside> it'll probably be fine with other ones
[20:35] <radim_OM2AMR> Upu, one week before launch :-D
[20:35] <Upu> yeah I was doing an order and had already paid the £15 US stock charge
[20:35] <Darkside> wat
[20:35] <Darkside> we don't get chrged that in australia
[20:35] <Upu> Those EPCOS SAW filters are US stock only
[20:35] <Upu> +£15
[20:35] <Upu> which is way cheaper than the price from RS/Digikey
[20:36] <Upu> those capacitors were US stock only as well
[20:36] <Upu> well good luck radim_OM2AMR :)
[20:37] <radim_OM2AMR> thank you very much Upu ;-) We are waiting for the first prediction
[20:37] <Upu> probably won't be accurate until 2-3 days before
[20:37] <fsphil> they should have an option "US Stock, but I don't mind waiting for cheap postage"
[20:38] <Upu> it does annoy me
[20:38] <radim_OM2AMR> yes, I know, we are using habhub predictor for meteosonde predictions ;-)
[20:40] <costyn> Upu: would be nice if you could make a breakout where the pins exactly line up to the serial pins on the pro mini :)
[20:41] <Upu> hmm
[20:41] <costyn> (for the ublox)
[20:41] <Upu> I could do that
[20:41] <Upu> but that would be cheating :)
[20:41] <costyn> not sure how much demand there would be, but at this moment it seems like a good idea to me :)
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[20:42] <costyn> although this puzzle of how to connect them most efficiently is fun too
[20:42] <Upu> I've avoided making "sheilds" for Arduino
[20:43] <costyn> yea, this would kinda fall into the same category
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[21:01] <MrScienc1Man> so very wierd
[21:01] <MrScienc1Man> made 3 clips
[21:01] <MrScienc1Man> all import well expent one
[21:01] <MrScienc1Man> which gets skewed to the left
[21:02] <MrScienc1Man> tried different format, recreating it
[21:02] <MrScienc1Man> still the same result
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[21:13] <MrScienc1Man> and now my other clips wont work
[21:13] <MrScienc1Man> o_o
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