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[03:10] <griffonbot> Received email: Mark Drayton "Re: [UKHAS] Insurance"
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[04:03] <navrac_home> quiet in here at 5am isnt it
[04:18] <natrium42> navrac_home: how do you feel about updog?
[04:19] <navrac_home> quiet in here at 5am isnt it1
[04:19] <navrac_home> eh
[04:19] <navrac_home> not going to fall for that is what i typed - got an echo instead
[04:21] <navrac_home> if it took 16 minutes for the echo to come back , knowing the speedof light i can work out how big the internet is
[04:26] <natrium42> damn :D
[04:27] <navrac_home> 178 million miles though
[04:27] <navrac_home> im going back to bed
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[05:45] <daveake> morning all
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[06:31] <griffonbot> Received email: Oliver de Peyer "Re: [UKHAS] Insurance"
[06:41] <Upu> more pearls of wisdom from Oliver
[06:43] <Upu> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18936072
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[07:16] <Upu> morning
[07:22] <daveake> Pretty this morning http://www.flickr.com/photos/daveake/7613873160/in/photostream
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[07:25] <Upu> its clear as a bell and sunny here
[07:25] <Upu> and calm
[07:25] <Upu> I'm going to get some foil balloons at some point
[07:30] <daveake> good idea. need more launches :)
[07:32] <Upu> http://hourly.upuaut.net/ however if you launched today with the same specs as last weekend you'd end up on the Isle of White
[07:33] <daveake> Someone should launch from the Isle of Wight. I bet even an enormous balloon would go straight up and straight down from there.
[07:33] <Upu> sounds like a plan want some money for that ?
[07:33] <daveake> Sure, send some
[07:33] <daveake> Actually send some anyway :). I'll add up your bill this weekend ;)
[07:34] <Upu> lol
[07:34] <Upu> yes pls
[07:34] <Upu> I'm spening all my money
[07:34] <daveake> I have now of course reached the top level of HAB expenditure, with the 4x4
[07:35] <daveake> Cheapy as it is
[07:35] <Upu> I think that was close to my Yagi and rotator
[07:35] <daveake> :)
[07:35] <Upu> talking of which the extended brackets turn up on Monday
[07:35] <daveake> So how many permanent aerials will you have up?
[07:35] <Upu> 2
[07:35] <Upu> Moving existing colinear down a little
[07:35] <daveake> thought it was more :D
[07:36] <Upu> well don't tempt me :)
[07:36] <daveake> lol
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[07:36] <daveake> Have you sorted out for someone to do the remote control for next weekend?
[07:36] <Upu> yeah there are a number of people who have access
[07:36] <daveake> cool
[07:36] <Upu> I'll check it works later in the week
[07:36] <daveake> I might set up a my mast at the site
[07:36] <daveake> -a
[07:37] <daveake> If there's somewhere secure I can leave a laptop there with the Yaesu auto-tuning, whilst we go chase the payload
[07:42] <daveake> Your rig should do well. Here's the launch site - http://goo.gl/maps/13vJ
[07:42] Action: daveake calculates petrol cost for the 4x4
[07:42] <daveake> Eeek
[07:42] <daveake> :)
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[07:43] <Upu> yeah :)
[07:44] <Upu> last weekend cost me £80 in diesel
[07:44] <daveake> This thing has a 92L tank ...
[07:45] <daveake> Still, the Pug isn't that good on petrol anyway, so it's not such a big step :D
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[08:44] <griffonbot> Received email: Ed Moore "Re: [UKHAS] Insurance"
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[09:23] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[09:23] <Lunar_Lander> quick question for you all
[09:24] <Lunar_Lander> I joined code for the BMP085 and the HIH-4030 and then I tried to use the temperature from the former with the humidity from the latter to do the temperature compensation
[09:24] <Lunar_Lander> now I did this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1103118/
[09:24] <Lunar_Lander> and the output is like this
[09:24] <Lunar_Lander> Temperature: 22.10deg C
[09:24] <Lunar_Lander> Pressure: 101080 Pa
[09:24] <Lunar_Lander> Standard Atmosphere: 0.9976
[09:24] <Lunar_Lander> Altitude: 20.41 M
[09:24] <Lunar_Lander> Relative Humidity: 72.56 %
[09:24] <Lunar_Lander> Relative Humidity Test: 74.39 %
[09:25] <Lunar_Lander> any pointers on that please?
[09:31] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] Insurance"
[09:38] <Lunar_Lander> this is on my 5V arduino
[09:39] <Lunar_Lander> as soon as I run the sensor with 3.3V, the deviations begin
[09:39] <Lunar_Lander> if I run the sensor at 5V, both values are the same
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[09:54] <griffonbot> Received email: MikeB "[UKHAS] Re: Insurance"
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[11:01] <nosebleedkt> payload not recovered :(
[11:01] <fsphil> tree?
[11:01] <nosebleedkt> I will upload a picture of the forest
[11:01] <fsphil> ah
[11:02] <fsphil> plural
[11:02] <nosebleedkt> to see what im talking about
[11:04] <nosebleedkt> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418595_494702700543779_1700630794_n.jpg
[11:05] <MrScienceMan> nice woods
[11:08] <fsphil> that's worse than the forest I had to get to last time
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[11:08] <fsphil> although the trees are not as tall
[11:10] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... and payload now silent, so no radio direction finding possible? or can you see the payload but it's stuck too high up?
[11:11] <MrScienceMan> i wonder, could i put some sort of speaker to becon when the payload lands on the ground
[11:11] <MrScienceMan> so you can find it by ear
[11:11] <MrScienceMan> ?
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[11:15] <LazyLeopard> nosebleedkt: Hmmm... and payload now silent, so no radio direction finding possible? or can you see the payload but it's stuck too high up?
[11:15] <nosebleedkt> so what do you think of the forest
[11:15] <nosebleedkt> ?
[11:16] <nosebleedkt> dunno
[11:16] <nosebleedkt> man
[11:16] <nosebleedkt> im crazy
[11:16] <nosebleedkt> but
[11:16] <nosebleedkt> i think i sew something
[11:17] <nosebleedkt> in the pictuure
[11:17] <nosebleedkt> in full zoom
[11:18] <nosebleedkt> waut
[11:19] Action: LazyLeopard has to go... Good hunting.
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[11:20] <nosebleedkt> http://imagebin.org/221635
[11:21] <nosebleedkt> http://imagebin.org/221636
[11:21] <nosebleedkt> is it possible?
[11:21] <Lunar_Lander> what do you mean?
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[11:22] <Lunar_Lander> the first photo looks like you could walk to the place where the object is
[11:22] <nosebleedkt> we didnt walk there
[11:23] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[11:23] <nosebleedkt> i dont know
[11:24] <nosebleedkt> but
[11:24] <nosebleedkt> it looks crazy similar
[11:24] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[11:25] <fsphil> might be worth a revisit
[11:25] <fsphil> it took me three attempts to recover hadie3
[11:25] <fsphil> it was quite a long trek over a bog to get to the forest, then a long trek through the forest
[11:25] <fsphil> although we have no wild animals here :)
[11:26] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[11:26] <fsphil> biggest thing I saw was sheep
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[11:30] <nosebleedkt> http://imagebin.org/221637
[11:32] <Darkside> i dunno nosebleedkt
[11:32] <Darkside> looks more like a blown out highlight
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[11:34] <fsphil> how accurate where the coordinates you got nosebleedkt?
[11:34] <fsphil> and how far where you from them?
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[11:36] <nosebleedkt> im loosing my mind
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[11:38] <fsphil> you think that's bad, I have to get a flight to look for one of mine :)
[11:38] <fsphil> which might actually happen next month
[11:40] <nosebleedkt> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarg!
[11:40] <fsphil> how accurate where the coordinates you got, and how far where you from them?
[11:41] <zyp> the problem about living in norway is that if I launch anything, it's got a high risk of being unrecoverable
[11:41] <nosebleedkt> one issue i discovered after the mission, is that my coords aren't accurate enough
[11:42] <fsphil> if you got more than a few coordinates, you could average them
[11:42] <nosebleedkt> i transmit up xx.xxxx
[11:42] <fsphil> four digits is fairly accurate tbh
[11:42] <nosebleedkt> xx.xxxx and yy.yyyy
[11:43] <fsphil> zyp: good excuse for live images :)
[11:43] <nosebleedkt> next time i will put mirrors
[11:44] <nosebleedkt> so i get reflections
[11:44] <fsphil> actually I would suggest not
[11:44] <nosebleedkt> from the big sun we got here
[11:44] <fsphil> my foil covered balloon got lost in the trees
[11:44] <fsphil> it basically reflects its surroundings, blending in
[11:44] <fsphil> I saw the bright red and yellow parachute first
[11:45] <fsphil> so I'd never use reflective material again, just florescents
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[12:16] <tioukcom> Hi All, new to this, is there any set format for data strings
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[12:20] <eroomde> TADA
[12:20] <tioukcom> cheers
[12:21] <eroomde> easier than trying to navigate the wiki directly :)
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[12:25] <DanielRichman> eeeeeeh example string with semicolons
[12:25] <DanielRichman> need to fix that
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[12:28] <Upu> meh
[12:29] <MrScienceMan> guess he has only one master
[12:29] <MrScienceMan> :(
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[12:34] <griffonbot> Received email: Neil Baker "Re: [UKHAS] Insurance"
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[14:02] <griffonbot> Received email: Russ Garrett "Re: [UKHAS] Insurance"
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[14:43] <nosebleedkt> tomorrow again with the hunters
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[15:03] <nosebleedkt> fsphil
[15:03] <nosebleedkt> you said you revisited 3 times the place to find hadie3
[15:03] <nosebleedkt> why the previous times you couldnt find it ?
[15:05] <fsphil> I did find it, but couldn't reach it
[15:06] <fsphil> the first two goes failed to get it out of the tree
[15:06] <Upu> hey nosebleedkt what was the last reading you had before it hit the ground ? At what altitude ?
[15:07] <Lunar_Lander> hi Upu
[15:07] <Upu> hey Lunar
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[15:15] <griffonbot> Received email: "[UKHAS] Pressure"
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[15:27] <nosebleedkt> fsphil!
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[16:26] <fsphil> nosebleedkt !!1
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[16:50] <nosebleedkt> fsphil
[16:54] <fsphil> yo
[16:54] <fsphil> you need better internet :)
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[17:40] <kokey> a bit confused with this rfm22b breakout board
[17:40] <kokey> I'm going to assume SDL and SDI means SD0 and SD1
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[17:59] <griffonbot> Received email: steamfire@gmail.com "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Insurance"
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[18:23] <griffonbot> Received email: Adam Greig "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Insurance"
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[18:55] <griffonbot> Received email: "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Insurance"
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[19:11] <griffonbot> Received email: Mike Bessant "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Insurance"
[19:14] <griffonbot> Received email: Ed Moore "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Insurance"
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[19:20] <jcoxon> evening all
[19:20] <jcoxon> perfect evening for a pico launch
[19:20] <eroomde> perfect evening for a beer and some soup
[19:22] <jcoxon> that as well
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[19:25] <fsphil> pico launch, then beer and soup
[19:25] <fsphil> to the sound of rtty
[19:25] <jcoxon> sadly no payload to fly
[19:26] <jcoxon> never mind
[19:26] <fsphil> drat
[19:26] <jcoxon> i'm working this weekend anyway
[19:26] <jcoxon> so have to be back in work in 12 hrs
[19:27] <fsphil> shame
[19:27] <jcoxon> we'll get another time
[19:27] <fsphil> I gotta get my own up in the air sometime
[19:27] <eroomde> jcoxon: in kent?
[19:28] <fsphil> keep forgetting to get one of those little helium tanks
[19:28] <jcoxon> yeah
[19:28] <eroomde> cool
[19:28] <jcoxon> i've got another solar panel on order
[19:28] <jcoxon> once it arrives i'll construct picoatlas VII
[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> hi eroomde jcoxon
[19:28] <fsphil> oh wait, Ican order them online
[19:28] <fsphil> +SP
[19:29] <eroomde> i had lots of people over for dinner last night. to my annoyance, not a single leftover (i was relying on some leftovers). i say that not as a nigella-ey boast (they were just very hungry) but out of genuine annoyance. i really wanted a slice of custard tart with a coffee this afternoon
[19:29] <jcoxon> haha
[19:31] <fsphil> custard and apple crumble. fantastic combo
[19:32] <eroomde> YES
[19:33] <eroomde> after ukhas conf dinner at St John
[19:33] <eroomde> if anyone else is keen i def am
[19:33] <eroomde> best apple crumble and custard ive ever had
[19:33] <fsphil> certainly up for that
[19:34] <eroomde> my fav restaurany in general
[19:35] <jcoxon> there are lots of places around london bridge that are good
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[19:36] <jcoxon> bbl
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[19:38] <nick_> eroomde: you have interesting stories of landing in people's gardens?
[19:39] <eroomde> e1 yes
[19:40] <eroomde> nick_: i won't say them here, but if you want and are free (i am just finishing up a quick dinner) then my local on osney island does a really welt kept and delicious pint of old golden hen
[19:40] <eroomde> which might make a good venue for sharing
[19:40] <eroomde> happy to pick up/drop off too as am in town with car atm
[19:42] <nick_> Which pub?
[19:42] <Randomskk> you're in for a treat wrt stories ;)
[19:42] <eroomde> punter
[19:43] <Randomskk> eroomde: incidentally I agree with your analysis of committees but decided to leave that out of my already too-long missive :P
[19:43] <eroomde> i hope not too many ukra people subscribe to the list :)
[19:44] <nick_> Unfortunately this evening is not great (went out in Portsmouth last night, got home this afternoon and still in bed), but I'm always on the lookout for good pubs.
[19:45] <eroomde> it is good
[19:45] <eroomde> v good food too
[19:46] <eroomde> including some cheaper dinners on weekdays (£7) which will be something like venison stew with cauliflour mash
[19:46] <eroomde> and some englishy tapas (whitebait, scotach egg with piccalilly)
[19:46] <eroomde> and it's about 25m from my front door
[19:47] <eroomde> so i rather like the place
[19:48] <nick_> Cool, want to go sometime this week maybe?
[19:49] <eroomde> sure
[19:49] <fsphil> yay internet. helium ordered
[19:49] <nick_> The online menu looks good
[19:49] <eroomde> weeknights can be a bit unpredicatble with me (hence not making it to oxhack stuff) but we can def pencil a night in
[19:49] <nick_> That's cool
[19:50] <nick_> I can be persuaded to go to the pub at short notice
[19:50] <eroomde> :)
[19:50] <eroomde> wed maybe?
[19:50] <nick_> Especially if I'm still at my office.
[19:50] <nick_> Could be good
[19:50] <eroomde> shall we pencil in 7.30 wed
[19:51] <nick_> OK
[19:51] <eroomde> cool
[19:51] <nick_> And you can show me the circuit you mentioned the other day?
[19:51] <eroomde> yes indeed
[19:52] <eroomde> i drew it on a bit of paper already infact
[19:53] <nick_> Cool
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[19:54] <MrCraig> evening all
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[19:55] <eroomde> right i am off for a bit. ttfn!
[19:56] <Lunar_Lander> evening daveake
[20:07] <MrCraig> Nikropht, Smittex, Aceat64, Thetanktheory <-- anyone have contact info for any of these nicks? I just moved into their hood.
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[20:16] <MrCraig> found them, in another channel on freenode :)
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[21:47] <Laurenceb_> hmm gqrx seems to be running
[21:47] <Laurenceb_> i need an actual dongle now
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[22:18] <eroomde> said the actress to the bishop
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[23:13] <Laurenceb_> oh dear
[23:13] <Laurenceb_> i cant actually decode any fm stations
[23:13] <Laurenceb_> odd
[23:13] <Laurenceb_> sure i can see radio 1
[23:15] <BrainDamage> you probably need to fix the agc gain
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[23:18] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Insurance"
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