highaltitude.log.20120609

[00:09] <griffonbot> Received email: Tom "[UKHAS] New to High altitude ballooning, starting a project."
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[01:09] <Smrtz> ahh, thanks guys. I'm looking for something cheap because it's my first flight, I'm not sure how my tracking will go.
[01:09] <Smrtz> also, I'm tracking solo, over FM...
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[02:41] <RobotCaleb> taking my new tracking site for a test drive as I walk around the neighborhood
[02:41] <RobotCaleb> http://hab.robotrising.org/map.html
[02:43] <Smrtz> Both the code in the linking an NTX2 to an Ardunio, and the U-BlOX 6 to Arduino use pin 5. I guess I can just change the NTX2 code to pin 6?
[02:44] <Smrtz> Also, seems to be working great RobotCaleb, and at least you're pool isn't green
[03:17] <RobotCaleb> looks like my antenna can't get the signal past the houses
[03:18] <RobotCaleb> my phone worked fine but the balloon beacon never triggered
[03:18] <Smrtz> well, you don't have line of site, right?
[03:18] <RobotCaleb> yeah. it works from my office room, though
[03:19] <Smrtz> weird.
[03:19] <RobotCaleb> But that's on a second floor so it might have line of sight
[03:19] <Smrtz> yeah, via a window
[03:19] <RobotCaleb> I'd have to see which one is picking it up
[03:19] <RobotCaleb> The concept works, anyway
[03:19] <Smrtz> try walking around a bit with it in your hand otside/
[03:19] <RobotCaleb> Which pool was green?
[03:19] <RobotCaleb> I had it in my hand the whole trip
[03:20] <Smrtz> behind your house, and to the right. Oh, idk then.
[03:20] <RobotCaleb> I'll put my yagi on it and see if that helps. Not that that's what it'll fly with, but I'd like to make sure it's mostly working. :)
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[03:22] <Smrtz> yeah, that might help
[03:22] <Smrtz> What time is it there?
[03:23] <RobotCaleb> according to aprs.fi there's one picking it up north and one picking it up south.
[03:23] <RobotCaleb> 2223
[03:24] <Smrtz> Wait, could there really be another non UK member here?
[03:24] <RobotCaleb> okay, off on another walk. Much shorter this time.
[03:24] <RobotCaleb> The map wasn't a giveaway?
[03:24] <Smrtz> ahh, I'll keep watching.
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[03:34] <RobotCaleb> that looks better
[03:34] <RobotCaleb> hmm
[03:34] <RobotCaleb> should color the paths based on callsign
[03:35] <RobotCaleb> Smrtz: Where are you from, then?
[03:38] <Smrtz> USA
[03:40] <RobotCaleb> I'm at the location in the map. Whereabouts for you?
[03:40] <Smrtz> VA
[03:41] <Smrtz> never been to texas.
[03:41] <RobotCaleb> I'll be launching Monday AM from south-east Pennsylvania somewhere
[03:42] <Smrtz> Ahh, nice. I don't have a receiver yet, otherwise I would help track.
[03:43] <RobotCaleb> I'm relying on the APRS network to get the packets online to me. I'll have my little HT connected to my laptop, but can't bring my yagi so I'll have to rely on my little antenna the HT came with and hope it picks up the signal if it doesn't hit the online network
[03:44] <Smrtz> Yeah, I should have gone with APRS, it's so much easier to track it, as long as it works
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[06:17] <earthshine> Morning
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[06:46] <Upu> morning
[06:46] <daveake> morning
[06:48] <daveake> Well, despite what the forecasts said before, the winds are fine this morning for a launch, and the landing prediction is good too. So could have launched today rather than tomorrow.
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[07:34] <griffonbot> Received email: Anthony Stirk "Re: [UKHAS] New to High altitude ballooning, starting a project."
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[07:40] <SP9UOB> Hi
[07:41] <Upu> morning
[07:41] <SP9UOB> a t 10:00 UTC i'll launch balloon with 29.490 beacon
[07:41] <SP9UOB> 29.490 MHz FM
[07:41] <Upu> what power ?
[07:41] <SP9UOB> any reports are welcome :-)
[07:41] <SP9UOB> 300 mW / 1/2 lambda vertical dipole
[07:42] <SP9UOB> should be heared in UK
[07:42] <Upu> 10 meter band ok
[07:43] <Upu> got any tracking page ?
[07:43] <SP9UOB> http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FSP9UOB-11&timerange=3600
[07:43] <Upu> cool good luck
[07:44] <SP9UOB> thanks, CU
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[08:55] <eroomde> morning
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[09:37] <jdtanner> Morning
[09:38] <jdtanner> Any launches planned for today?
[09:39] <eroomde> SP9UOB is launching something with an HF beacon asomewhere in europe
[09:39] <eroomde> i don't think there's anything UK based today though on account of the wind, but actually i have lost track of this weekend completely anyway so best to ignore me
[09:39] <eroomde> i'm still bitter about pressure sensors
[09:40] <jdtanner> Nothing I can help with then...I'm not surprised tbh considering the rain.
[09:40] <jdtanner> haha
[09:40] <jdtanner> I've decided they are too much like hard work, and will wait for peaksky2 :P
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[09:42] <jdtanner> My plan to win the Euromillions didn't turn out as I'd hoped...so I've still got to do all this work on my own ;)
[09:42] <fsphil> I failed with that plan too, on account of not buying a ticket
[09:43] <fsphil> the polish balloon hasn't launched yet
[09:43] <jdtanner> £130m meant that I took a slightly differnt look at the 'idiot tax'...stupid I know
[09:44] <eroomde> what is peasky2?
[09:45] <MrScienceMan> word
[09:45] <jdtanner> The launch planned after we've done peaksky1 ;)
[09:45] <eroomde> ah right :)
[09:45] <jdtanner> Yeah...basically 3 months away...so not worth worrying about now :)
[09:46] <fsphil> tinker time
[09:46] <jdtanner> Yep...proabably 'total redesign and rebuild from the ground up' time actually :D
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[09:47] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] New to High altitude ballooning, starting a project."
[09:52] <Upu> http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FSP9UOB-11&timerange=3600
[09:52] <Upu> he's transmitting on 29.490Mhz FM
[09:52] <eroomde> can you hear anything out of interest?
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[09:53] <Upu> nah and unlikely too I don' think a 2m/70cms colinear is that good on 10 meters
[09:54] <fsphil> throw a long wire out the window :)
[09:55] <Upu> I would but that drought is falling out of the sky again
[09:55] <eroomde> yeah i'm often surprised
[09:55] <fsphil> aah, tne anti-water
[09:55] <eroomde> i threw some wire out of my second floor window at uni and got cw from arizona
[09:55] <Upu> I'm going to run a wire round the loft when we put the rotator up on Thursday
[09:55] <Upu> as long as its not raining...
[09:57] <eroomde> oooh rotator time
[09:57] <eroomde> and the mega yagi?
[09:59] <Upu> yes
[09:59] <Upu> if and big if
[09:59] <Upu> it stops raining
[09:59] <Upu> I need to calibrate it which means the controller outside
[09:59] <Upu> so if its raining no can do
[10:01] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: Four launches planned for 10th June, new altitude record to be had ? Trackers always welcome #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/211397506494513152]
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[10:13] Nick change: danielsaul_alt -> danielsaul
[10:13] <griffonbot> @Khoirunnisa_QNU: "Hai masa lalu ku! Apa kabar? Sepenglihatanku, engkau baik2 saja. ...." #CUSF [http://twitter.com/Khoirunnisa_QNU/status/211400625299275776]
[10:14] <griffonbot> @Khoirunnisa_QNU: ".... Saat melihatmu, rasanya biasa2 saja! Sepertinya aku benar2 telah menghilangkan segenap perasaan cintaku untukmu! ..." #CUSF [http://twitter.com/Khoirunnisa_QNU/status/211400834334994432]
[10:14] <eroomde> wow
[10:15] <griffonbot> @Khoirunnisa_QNU: ".... Slamat tinggal! Semoga kau dapat perempuan yg jauh lebih baik dariku! ..." #CUSF [http://twitter.com/Khoirunnisa_QNU/status/211401071883599872]
[10:15] <eroomde> indonesian according to gtranslate
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[10:18] <cuddykid> lol
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[10:23] <nick_> eroomde: are you planning to go to Dave and ...'s launch tomorrow?
[10:23] <eroomde> can do if you want
[10:23] <nick_> I'd like to :)
[10:23] <eroomde> cool
[10:24] <eroomde> lets then
[10:24] <nick_> Is there stuff I should bring?
[10:24] <eroomde> rain coat?
[10:25] <eroomde> ground could be quite muddy too
[10:25] <eroomde> there's a jacket i really really want
[10:26] <eroomde> the sort of thing you wear when you're outside at subzero for extended periods, merely being outside working rather than trecking and generarting your own heat. it'd be great for february habs
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[10:30] <nick_> My fiancée has good cold wather gear. Growing up in Wisconsin will do that to you.
[10:30] <fsphil> I'd need something to keep my hands warm
[10:30] <nick_> That place gets mighty cold.
[10:30] <fsphil> last launch I was struggling to do anything
[10:30] <fsphil> my hands where frozen
[10:31] <fsphil> ah, the polish launch has.. er,, launched
[10:31] <fsphil> 1.5km
[10:31] <nick_> What's the tracking link?
[10:31] <fsphil> they're using FM.. that'll be difficult to hear here
[10:31] <fsphil> http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FSP9UOB-11&timerange=3600
[10:31] <Laurenceb_> not on spacenear?
[10:31] <fsphil> in saying that, 9 watts
[10:31] <fsphil> nah it's aprs
[10:32] <Laurenceb_> spacenearski
[10:32] <nick_> Is anyone here tracking that?
[10:32] <fsphil> I'm gonna have a listen now
[10:32] <fsphil> but doubtful
[10:32] <fsphil> HF is weird though
[10:34] <fsphil> urg, my inverter is messing up HF
[10:34] <eroomde> nick_: i'm going to be offline mostly today, but leave me a pm here if you need anything. i'll check again this evening
[10:35] <fsphil> hmm.. the balloon is descending
[10:35] <nick_> eroomde: can I get a lift?
[10:35] <fsphil> 1.1km
[10:35] Action: nick_ is essentially a leech.
[10:36] <fsphil> and now floating at 1.1km
[10:36] <eroomde> nick_: yes ofcourse
[10:36] <eroomde> i assumed that
[10:36] <eroomde> (that you would need a lift, not that you're a leech)
[10:36] <SpeedEvil> eroomde: Have fun
[10:36] <SpeedEvil> nick_: too
[10:37] <eroomde> i always do!
[10:38] <nick_> Thanks :)
[10:38] <fsphil> and it's on the ground again
[10:38] <fsphil> and still moving
[10:38] <eroomde> i will get to meet number10 too finally
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[10:39] <fsphil> I wonder if this thing is reporting altitude correctly
[10:39] <fsphil> because it just went through some buildings
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[10:42] <fsphil> yea, altitude is broken
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[11:14] <nosebleedkt> Got the helium !
[11:15] <nosebleedkt> its bigger than me !! LOL
[11:15] <nosebleedkt> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/556666_471800439500672_55581706_n.jpg
[11:23] <Laurenceb_> hell yeah
[11:23] <Laurenceb_> solved my adc issue
[11:23] <eroomde> how?
[11:24] <Laurenceb_> its the set/reset thingy on my magnetometer
[11:24] <Laurenceb_> lsm303dlh
[11:24] <fsphil> treat it well nosebleedkt :)
[11:24] <Laurenceb_> ill take a look with some better kit at work next week - its either putting spikes onto the power rail or inductively coupling to the pressure sensor
[11:25] <Laurenceb_> lsm303 uses a honeywell hmc5883 sensor die
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[11:26] <Laurenceb_> before it takes each reading theres a "set/reset" procedure using very high current pulse through thin film coil around the ic
[11:26] <Laurenceb_> on the older honeywell stuff its possible to isolate the rails better :-/
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[11:28] <eroomde> ah that sounds annoying
[11:29] <Laurenceb_> yeah - no nice solution, but at least it looks like i know what it is
[11:30] <SamSilver> balloonski is acending at 10m/min
[11:30] <SamSilver> make that 9m per minute
[11:31] <Laurenceb_> really?
[11:31] <Laurenceb_> i thought the altitude was screwed?
[11:31] <Laurenceb_> ok... if thats real its going to be a long flight
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[11:32] <SamSilver> Laurenceb_: could be ...
[11:36] <nosebleedkt> lol fsphil
[11:37] <nosebleedkt> stupid mirc does not flash when someones mentions my nick
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[11:38] <eroomde> stick the magnetometer in a floating supply with an isolating amp to read it?
[11:38] <eroomde> perhaps a bit sledgehammer
[11:40] <Laurenceb_> yeah, im going to cut a trace and stick a choke onto the pitot sensor
[11:40] <Laurenceb_> if that doesnt work ill hack a ldo reg onto the pitot
[11:40] <nosebleedkt> can someone type my nick ?
[11:41] <nosebleedkt> want to check highlighting
[11:41] <Laurenceb_> the magno is on a rail with a load of other sensors and a little hard to hack the pcb
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[11:44] <Laurenceb_> how odd
[11:44] <Laurenceb_> it does seem to be going up in altitude
[11:44] <Laurenceb_> maybe its out by a factor of 10 ?
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[11:56] <cuddykid> well done Upu!
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[12:00] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[12:00] <Laurenceb_> hmm down again, something is screwed
[12:00] <Lunar_Lander> daveake, thanks again for the GND wire thing, when I did that and then pulled the RX line, the data still came through
[12:01] <daveake> Unsurprising :)
[12:01] <daveake> I think I might do a noob's guide to electrickery
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[12:02] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[12:02] <Lunar_Lander> but the code still returned FAILURE
[12:02] <Lunar_Lander> then I wanted to know if the GPS would understand a command and switched off NMEA and polled it with the command given there
[12:02] <Lunar_Lander> that worked!
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[12:03] <Lunar_Lander> and then I checked my hex command and I missed out a 0x00 0xFA
[12:03] <Lunar_Lander> that was what held me up 11 hours!
[12:03] <Lunar_Lander> uploaded that and it returned SUCCESS
[12:05] <fsphil> anyone hearing the HF payload?
[12:05] <fsphil> nothing here
[12:06] <Lunar_Lander> that was like a great thing but I felt like being the Stupidest Champion
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[12:09] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil, where is the flight?
[12:10] <fsphil> Poland
[12:10] <fsphil> http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=8&call=a%2FSP9UOB-11&timerange=3600
[12:10] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[12:11] <fsphil> it should be pretty high up by now
[12:11] <fsphil> the altitude reported there is definitely wrong
[12:12] <daveake> feet --> metres?
[12:12] <daveake> How long as it been up for?
[12:12] <Lunar_Lander> hi nosebleedkt
[12:12] <Lunar_Lander> congrats for getting He
[12:13] <fsphil> about 2 hours
[12:13] <daveake> Oh, not metres then :)
[12:13] <fsphil> it's been going between 0-2000 for a while
[12:13] <fsphil> think it's just broke
[12:13] <fsphil> at least I hope so :)
[12:14] <fsphil> a float that low could be ... interesting
[12:14] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[12:14] <fsphil> the path looks like it might be descending
[12:15] <daveake> Interesting predictions for tomorrow ... here's one possibility - http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=b99d68865230f21ab9bf845735536ac5d4490cf2
[12:15] <daveake> That's about 4 miles between launch and landing
[12:16] <fsphil> that would be amazing
[12:16] <fsphil> lazyhab
[12:17] <daveake> chase bicycle
[12:17] <fsphil> more time for bacon butties
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[12:17] <daveake> Just as well we bought plenty of bacon then :)
[12:17] <zamabe> BACON!
[12:17] <fsphil> you need to do a launch here sometime :p
[12:18] <daveake> Why, do you have good bacon? :p
[12:19] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[12:19] <fsphil> nah, I've no time to prepare food while launching, need some help :)
[12:19] <Lunar_Lander> what are bacon butties?
[12:19] <fsphil> they're mmmm
[12:19] <daveake> Oh, LL, you have so much to learn ....
[12:19] <fsphil> with HP sauce
[12:19] <zamabe> You've answered in the form of a question. You must be a witch!
[12:20] <daveake> Essential start to a HAB day
[12:20] <Lunar_Lander> XD
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[12:21] <fsphil> I'm about to head out and get some food, might just get some bacon now
[12:21] <fsphil> followed by a chocolate sundae
[12:23] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[12:23] <Lunar_Lander> jdtanner, the error were two missing hex numbers
[12:24] <jdtanner> ah&I thought you'd tried it with my code?
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[12:26] <Lunar_Lander> well the thing was
[12:26] <Lunar_Lander> I printed out your code and typed it from the paper, but left the hex line as it was
[12:26] <Lunar_Lander> it is a bit difficult with the laptop having no internet you see
[12:26] <jdtanner> ah, well that would explain it&maybe you should invest in a usb stick :)
[12:27] <Lunar_Lander> yeah :)
[12:27] <Lunar_Lander> like at 9 pm it finally said SUCCESS
[12:27] <Lunar_Lander> and I was so happy
[12:27] <Lunar_Lander> but then I missed the last train and had to wait till 12:15 for my bus
[12:28] <Lunar_Lander> which meant I got right into the party for the Russians winning their match against the Czech
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[12:28] <Lunar_Lander> they were driving through the city with their car horns sounding and stuff
[12:29] <fsphil> at least that's all they where doing
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[12:31] <Lunar_Lander> and waving the flag and stuff
[12:31] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[12:35] <jdtanner> I was wondering what the usual gap between RTTY bursts is&is there a preferred value?
[12:36] <r2x0t> best is no gaps :)
[12:38] <jdtanner> Ok, so just try to keep transmitting RTTY then?
[12:46] <r2x0t> yes, just keep sending it if possible
[12:47] <jdtanner> cool
[12:47] <r2x0t> so demodulator can stay locked etc.
[12:47] <r2x0t> gaps are only needed if you can't do this for some reason
[12:47] <r2x0t> like when reading GPS or other sensors messes up with RTTY timing
[12:48] <r2x0t> then you have to pause, read stuff, then send it and repeat
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[12:51] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] XABEN-27 Launch Sunday 10th June"
[12:51] <number10> I would have a short gap
[12:53] <number10> when retunning if you get fldigi mid way though a biyte it sometimes gets out of sync - also allows for people to retune more easily
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[12:56] <r2x0t> ...compensating for fldigi problems on payload
[12:56] <r2x0t> "mid way though a biyte it sometimes gets out of sync" this should be fixed
[12:56] <gonzo_mob> helps is you have a couple of stop bits in the tx
[12:57] <r2x0t> with binary protocol, I would start frame with 00 FF 55 AA
[12:57] <r2x0t> that makes sure it is locked to correct framing
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[12:57] <gonzo_mob> i always start with some nulls to flush the rx uarts
[12:58] <r2x0t> maybe \r\n\x00\xFF\x55\xAA$$$PAYLOAD.... isn't that bad idea
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[13:00] <gonzo_mob> would have thought just nulls would be best? a few of them
[13:01] <r2x0t> hmm maybe better
[13:01] <r2x0t> 55 00 00
[13:02] <r2x0t> 55 = 0101010101 = helps PLL lock
[13:03] <r2x0t> but isn't FF better for frame sync? usually frame lock looks for "0" then receives 8 more bits and "1" stop bit
[13:03] <r2x0t> depends on how it's handled in fldigi
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[13:06] <Lunar_Lander> r2x0t, hi
[13:07] <gonzo_mob> i'm thonkibh of basic uarts
[13:08] <gonzo_mob> AH circus statred. back laters
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[13:10] <r2x0t> Lunar_Lander: yo
[13:11] <Lunar_Lander> did the GPS commanding yesterday
[13:11] <Lunar_Lander> took 11 hours
[13:11] <Lunar_Lander> reason was that I forgot two of the hex numbers
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[13:51] <MickMondo> Hi all, anyone around who can set up a new call sign for me ...?
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[13:53] <Laurenceb_> polish balloon is dead?
[13:53] <MickMondo> Hi all, anyone around to set up a new call sign for me ...?
[13:54] <MickMondo> is it battery ...?
[14:04] <jdtanner> Afternoon all&so I've finally managed to get my NTX warbling&but seemingly only picking up either the mark or the space&not hearing them both. Probably me being stupid...
[14:05] <SpeedEvil> jdtanner: do you have a voltage divider on the input?
[14:05] <SpeedEvil> And if so - hat voltages is it outputting?
[14:05] <jdtanner> Yes, but I'm beginning to think that might be thr problem.
[14:07] <gonzo_mob>
[14:08] <gonzo_mob> they dont need much input v to get the sna
[14:08] <gonzo_mob> small dev we use
[14:09] <jdtanner> I thought I'd done the calculation properly&obviously not
[14:17] <stilldavid_> any gpsl people swing through?
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[14:20] <jdtanner> Can somebody check my maths...
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[14:21] <jdtanner> at 3.3V, a voltage divider with 22k and 26k should give a 410Hz shift (0.25V)
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[14:24] <Upu> yes but
[14:24] <Upu> NTX2 has a 100k input
[14:24] <Upu> R
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[14:27] <MickMondo> Anyone around to set up a new call sign for me ...?
[14:27] <Randomskk> I will be in a short while
[14:27] <Randomskk> but atm am under an intensely pressing deadline
[14:27] <Randomskk> have you used the flight doc generator to make a doc?
[14:27] <Randomskk> and if so, please put it on pastebin and drop the link here
[14:27] <r2x0t> MickMondo: you don't need special callsign, just choose one yourself
[14:28] <r2x0t> otherwise you are risking someone assigning you "NOOB01" :)
[14:29] <MickMondo> Its just a cut down version of my normal call sign ...eg:MONDO-1,075,13:53:35,+5132.9740,+00038.0630,00023,-00.1,
[14:30] <MickMondo> I'll get on the flight doc generator ...cheers
[14:36] <Randomskk> http://habitat.habhub.org/genpayload iirc
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[14:45] <stilldavid_> http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=12&call=a%2FAE0SS-11%2Ca%2FVE5BNC-11%2Ca%2FKC0GPB-11%2Ca%2FW0ZC-11%2Ca%2FK0SCC-11%2Ca%2FKD4STH-13%2Ca%2FKD4STH-12%2Ca%2FKC5TRB-11&timerange=10800
[14:45] <stilldavid_> lots of balloons in the air :)
[14:49] <Upu> Afternon Mick
[14:49] <Upu> don't tell me your launching this weekend too ? :)
[14:50] <Lunar_Lander> hi Upu
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> hi stilldavid_
[14:51] <Upu> hey Lunar
[14:51] <Upu> sorry I keep missing your PM's
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> no problem
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> congratulations again
[14:51] <Upu> thanks
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> 11 hours of debugging
[14:51] <Upu> sounds fun
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> and then I found that my hex command was missing 0x00, 0,FA
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> *0xFA
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> and then it said SUCCESS
[14:52] <Lunar_Lander> (your hardware serial code for setting ublox to airborne)
[14:52] <Upu> there you go
[14:52] <Upu> that bit of code I think was Jcoxons
[14:53] <MickMondo> Hi Anthony,, LOL, I was thinking of it as my permit runs out Sunday but I dont feel to good at the mo, got a bad cold or should I say man flu.. I thought I'd let Steve hold on to his record a bit longer too ha ha .. only joking Steve.. got all my config sorted out, pleased about that
[14:54] <MickMondo> just been on Payload doc ... here it is,,, hope its correct..{"type":"flight","name":"MONDO-3","start":1339286400,"end":1347235200,"launch":{"time":null,"timezone":""},"metadata":{"location":"EARS","project":"bello mondo-9"},"payloads":{"mondo-3":{"radio":{"frequency":434.525,"mode":"USB"},"telemetry":{"modulation":"rtty","shift":425,"encoding":"ascii-8","baud":50,"parity":"none","stop"
[14:54] <MickMondo> :1.5},"sentence":{"protocol":"UKHAS","checksum":"xor","payload":"mondo-3","fields":[{"name":"sentence_id","sensor":"base.ascii_int"},{"name":"time","sensor":"stdtelem.time"},{"name":"latitude","sensor":"stdtelem.coordinate","format":"ddmm.mm"},{"name":"longitude","sensor":"stdtelem.coordinate","format":"ddmm.mm"},{"name":"altitude","sensor":"base.ascii_int"}]}}}}
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> Upu, yeah
[14:54] <Upu> www.pastebin.com MickMondo
[14:54] <Upu> then link it :)
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> I was advised by daveake that I forgot the GND wire but that didn't solve the problem of the program returning FAILURE
[14:54] <MickMondo> Opps sorry ...
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> then I tried to switch off NMEA and poll the module
[14:54] <fsphil> moar launches??
[14:54] <fsphil> I'm gonna need a bigger antenna
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> and as that worked, I figured that there was something amiss in the hex
[14:55] <Lunar_Lander> *hex part
[14:56] <MickMondo> http://pastebin.com/qW2CwnYu
[14:56] <Upu> What flight number is it Mick ?
[14:56] <MickMondo> ...?
[14:57] <Upu> oh ignore me
[14:57] <Upu> MONDO-3
[14:57] <Upu> MONDO 9
[14:57] <Upu> got it
[14:57] <MickMondo> Mmmm,, its my ninth flight ..
[14:57] <MickMondo> yep thats it
[14:57] <Upu> this uBlox based payload ?
[14:57] <MickMondo> yeah Max 6 with chip antenna
[14:57] <Upu> cook
[14:57] <Upu> cool
[14:58] <Upu> well if it doesn't rain next week this will be tracking it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcB-IPRrsXk&feature=youtu.be
[14:58] <Lunar_Lander> btw the ublox website discusses some ublox 7?
[14:58] <MickMondo> ooooh, cool
[15:00] <Upu> interesting Lunar_Lander
[15:00] <Upu> I'll have to get some samples
[15:00] <fsphil> neat, http://www.mkars.org.uk/news/article/23/centenary_of_alan_turing_s_birth
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> btw modifying the code was really easy
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> deleted the software serial, replaced all the "mySerial" by "Serial" and "Serial" by "Serial1"
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> got a question though
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> in the 1st example you switch the GPS to 4800 baud, why?
[15:02] <fsphil> nss works better at lower baud rates
[15:02] <Upu> I couldn't get it to work properly at 9600
[15:02] <Upu> even if you increase the buffer
[15:02] <Upu> drops characters
[15:02] <Upu> use hardware
[15:02] <MickMondo> yah I use 4800 too
[15:02] <fsphil> the biggest flaw with the atmega328 is the single hardware uart
[15:02] <fsphil> it really needs two
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> and nss needs CPU power and thus can lead to timing issues?
[15:03] <Upu> not sure there are timing issues
[15:03] <Upu> just try it you'll see
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil, yeah, at least the new Uno has two SDA and SCL things
[15:03] <Upu> I wasn't happy with it at 4800
[15:03] <Upu> did drop occasional chars
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[15:04] <Lunar_Lander> didn't you write about timing problems
[15:04] <Lunar_Lander> I think that ublox is sensitive to timing
[15:04] <Upu> I think I did
[15:04] <SamSilver> can i have the link for the ballloon launch in poland (i think)
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[15:05] <Lunar_Lander> and to come back to openlog once more
[15:05] <Lunar_Lander> if I write into the program Serial2.begin(9600); and like Serial2.print(inByte); later then it would write the GPS data to Serial2 and thus onto the open log connected to TX2?
[15:05] <Upu> SamSilver http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FSP9UOB-11&timerange=3600
[15:05] <eroomde> daveake: yo
[15:06] <eroomde> can you cope with me + nick_ additionally tomorrow?
[15:06] <eroomde> number10: batts arrived!
[15:06] <eroomde> thanks very much!
[15:08] <SamSilver> thanx upu
[15:09] <Upu> MickMondo still here ? is this payload for launch or for testing, if launch whats expected date ?
[15:10] <MickMondo> For launching... my permit runs out tomorrow so whenever it gets renewed I guess
[15:11] <Upu> I think it should be in now DanielRichman just did it for you
[15:11] <DanielRichman> MickMondo: you've put a 3 month window on the doc; that's fine - just note that it will randomly stop working in september
[15:12] <jdtanner> (Just in case anyone was wondering&the problem with my tracker was either a duff resisitor and/or a cheap breadboard)
[15:12] <MickMondo> Can I have it running like my others ..?
[15:13] <MickMondo> without the window, sorry
[15:13] <number10> great stuff eroomde hope they are suitable
[15:13] <SamSilver> i see bill elk has a slowish 3.7m/s
[15:15] <MickMondo> Will I need to do the doc again,, DanielRichman
[15:15] <DanielRichman> nah it's fine
[15:15] <DanielRichman> i'll change it
[15:15] <MickMondo> cool, cheers
[15:15] <MickMondo> I also seem to mess these things up...
[15:15] <MickMondo> always that should be
[15:16] <eroomde> me looking at the features on the datasheet of this stm32f4 microchip: http://i.imgur.com/wtrbi.gif.jpg
[15:16] <Randomskk> stm32f4s are delicious
[15:16] <Randomskk> but wait til you try programming it
[15:16] <Randomskk> :P
[15:17] <Randomskk> wombat has an f405rgt6 or something, it's highly enjoyable
[15:17] <eroomde> i got something coming out of the spi port
[15:17] <DanielRichman> You can't select an infinite window in the genpayload thing by design; the differences between testing and launching and all that stuff will be cleaned up over summer. I.e., not your fault
[15:17] <eroomde> without 2000 bitmasks and 28 simultaneous openocd servers
[15:17] <Randomskk> :P
[15:17] <eroomde> with about, not without*
[15:17] <MickMondo> Ok ..... cheers
[15:17] <Randomskk> the blackmagicprobe is a great debugging/programmer btw
[15:17] <Randomskk> skips openocd entirely
[15:17] <Randomskk> just talks to gdb
[15:18] <Randomskk> which might be rock:hard place
[15:18] <eroomde> linky linky
[15:19] <Randomskk> http://www.blacksphere.co.nz/main/blackmagic
[15:19] <Randomskk> also http://thequadshot.com/products/black-magic-probe-mini
[15:19] <Laurenceb__> eroomde: use texane
[15:19] <Randomskk> mini version has the 2x5 little header thing whcih is nice
[15:19] <Laurenceb__> its running quite nicely now
[15:19] <Randomskk> full version is a 20 pin standard jtag
[15:19] <Randomskk> whcih is also nice for some things
[15:19] <Laurenceb__> im getting 15KB/s
[15:20] <Laurenceb__> scips openocd too
[15:20] <Laurenceb__> *skips
[15:21] <eroomde> its come on a bit
[15:21] <eroomde> cool
[15:22] <eroomde> sidereel has no links gor game of thrones season 2
[15:22] <eroomde> what am i to do?
[15:23] <daveake> [16:05] <eroomde> daveake: yo
[15:23] <daveake> [16:06] <eroomde> can you cope with me + nick_ additionally tomorrow?
[15:23] <daveake> Sure no problem :)
[15:23] <daveake> number10 getting here at 8am
[15:23] <eroomde> grand!
[15:23] <daveake> Can *you* cope? :p
[15:23] <eroomde> ok
[15:23] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[15:23] <eroomde> i will find a way
[15:23] <daveake> :)
[15:24] <eroomde> nick_: ping
[15:24] <nick_> Hi
[15:24] <daveake> Bring bacon
[15:24] <MickMondo> I,ve messed something up .. DanielRichman ... the string is:- $$MONDO-1,454,15:21:29,+5132.9841,+00038.0696,00055,00.1,52 ... Its not extracting or uploading...
[15:24] <nick_> Where/when do I need to be?
[15:24] <DanielRichman> MickMondo: will have a look
[15:24] <nick_> And is there anything people want me to bring?
[15:25] <Lunar_Lander> bacon
[15:25] <nick_> (homebrew is an option)
[15:25] <Upu> no mice
[15:25] <daveake> oono :)
[15:25] <eroomde> nick_: i can pick you up from x at 7.15
[15:25] <MickMondo> Cheers, DanielRichman .. sorry to be a pain
[15:25] <eroomde> where x is somewhere in oxford convenient to you
[15:25] <Upu> FCD equipped Yagi ready to dangle out of the window
[15:25] <DanielRichman> MickMondo: do you have a checksum?
[15:25] <eroomde> yeah my radio stuff is at work
[15:26] <eroomde> no chasing for us sadly
[15:26] <MickMondo> yes, xor
[15:26] <eroomde> whats the pred incidently?
[15:26] <DanielRichman> MickMondo: which version of dl-fldigi are you using, do you know?
[15:26] <nick_> Do you know the Oxford Spires?
[15:26] <DanielRichman> and or/ have you ticked the 'online' box
[15:27] <eroomde> nick_: on abingdon road?
[15:27] <nick_> Yes
[15:27] <daveake> eroomde If you wanted I could lend you an aerial/receiver/laptop for the chase
[15:28] <eroomde> daveake: that could be cool
[15:28] <eroomde> nick_: yep fine - there at 7.15 then?
[15:28] <MickMondo> ar, just spotted that, I,ve left the * out of my code ...
[15:28] <daveake> We're expecting Number10's balloon to land all of 4 miles away :D
[15:28] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[15:29] <Lunar_Lander> btw I think the woman at the left of the picture is good: http://www.ndr.de/ndr2/programm/sendungen/der_ndr2_morgen/ponikpetersen145.html
[15:29] <nick_> eroomde: that would be super convenient for me.
[15:29] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[15:29] <nick_> Let me set my alarm...
[15:29] <eroomde> cool
[15:29] <daveake> Run earlier - http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=547c02509757eb94caee4e201a376f16f0fa6a69
[15:29] <eroomde> i think actually as you're on the way south it could be 7.20
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[15:29] <daveake> btw Ed could you bring that tracker plz?
[15:29] <eroomde> wow
[15:29] <eroomde> that's not so much a chase as a sit
[15:30] <daveake> llol
[15:30] <nick_> That looks suspicious.
[15:30] <eroomde> daveake: i have an awful confession - i left it in cambridge this weekend when i went to de-extricate it from the rocket stage
[15:30] <Lunar_Lander> yeah could it be a malfunction?
[15:30] <eroomde> it was a massive fail
[15:30] <eroomde> and i'm very sorry
[15:31] <daveake> np - don;'t need it yet!
[15:31] Action: LazyLeopard remembers seeing a predicion or two from Cambridge where the payload appeared to stand a good chance of landing right back atthe launch point...
[15:31] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[15:32] Action: LazyLeopard seems to have a sticky keyboard...
[15:32] <Lunar_Lander> my craziest prediction was a drift westward
[15:32] <Lunar_Lander> and a landing in Arnhem
[15:32] <nick_> How long will the whole day take?
[15:32] <Lunar_Lander> right in the city center
[15:32] <Lunar_Lander> 24 hours
[15:33] <nick_> Lunar_Lander: you might be interested to hear I got some money to buy some lower voltage sensors in the interest of saftey.
[15:33] <daveake> Well the longest flight is the second, and that should be about 3 hours. If that gets launched at 11am then it'll land 2pm and hopefully receovered quickly
[15:33] <eroomde> nick_: unsure, depends on launch time and ascent and descent rates. given the flight tracks, it could all be done intime for a pub lunch
[15:34] <Lunar_Lander> nick_, cool!
[15:34] <nick_> So I can tell my fiancée to sleep in until lunchtime at least?
[15:34] <Lunar_Lander> what exactly will they do?
[15:34] <nick_> The silicon photomultipliers.
[15:34] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[15:34] <Lunar_Lander> sounds good
[15:34] <nick_> I'm getting basically the same thing from a different supplier so they run below the magic safe voltage threshold.
[15:35] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[15:35] <Lunar_Lander> which is what voltage?
[15:35] <nick_> So I don't have to have the HV all hidden away in case an undergrad decides to start chewing on my detector.
[15:35] <nick_> I don't know exactly
[15:35] <nick_> Around 60V?
[15:35] <nick_> The ones I have now run a little over 70V.
[15:35] <nick_> The new ones will be a little under 30V.
[15:36] <nick_> Which should also make things easier for a battery option for that voltage.
[15:37] <nick_> Hopefully they'll run for ages with 3 x 12V batteries.
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:38] <nick_> In fact, I think most of the power will be used up by an adjustable regulator.
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:39] <nick_> But hopefully they'll still run for ages, in which case I could use battery power for HAB and lab modes.
[15:39] <nick_> Which would be nice for testing.
[15:40] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:41] <Lunar_Lander> and then the scintillator can be rock n rolling, cause it does really matter what the voltage is
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> sorry got carried away with that singing again
[15:43] <nick_> I really wish I had a decent HV supply.
[15:44] <Lunar_Lander> yea, can imagine that
[15:44] <nick_> The one I'm using now is a crappy old one that annoys me no end.
[15:44] <Lunar_Lander> yeah with all the electric noise and so on?
[15:44] <nick_> I can't set a voltage accurate to more than about 0.5V
[15:45] <Lunar_Lander> yeah that is crappy
[15:45] <nick_> I assume it's noisy too.
[15:45] <nick_> But I really need to set an accurate voltage.
[15:45] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:45] <nick_> Or at leat accurately set the same voltage each time.
[15:45] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[15:46] <nick_> Hopefully with the new sensors I'll move to a digital supply that's currently unused.
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[15:48] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[15:50] <eroomde> nick_: i can vouch for the little potted dc dc convertors for the flight hardware
[15:50] <eroomde> the ones in the metal cans
[15:50] <DanielRichman> MickMondo: the strings you're uploading have callsign "MONDO-2", but the doc you added had "mondo-3" in it;
[15:51] <DanielRichman> do you want me to change the doc to MONDO-2?
[15:53] <MickMondo> No, jut messing about at the mo, not sure whats wrong..
[15:54] <number10> daveake: I just knocked up another controllere with Upu s ublox breakout and chip antenna - seems to be fine..
[15:54] <number10> if I have time I will make small payload box incase its raining too much - so leave camera one
[15:54] <nick_> eroomde: what kind of voltages have you used them with?
[15:56] <MickMondo> Ah, seems ok ...
[15:56] <DanielRichman> yup
[15:56] <MickMondo> thanks for that,,
[15:56] <DanielRichman> what is the "00.3"?
[15:57] <DanielRichman> the very last field
[15:59] <daveake> number10 cool
[15:59] <eroomde> nick_: forex +/- 30
[15:59] <daveake> Looks dry for the morning
[15:59] <MickMondo> that is ascent rate, I calculate it onboard
[15:59] <eroomde> which will give you a nice floating 60v
[16:01] <nick_> OK
[16:01] <nick_> I should want ~29V
[16:01] <nick_> Hopefully adjustable in real time.
[16:01] <DanielRichman> MickMondo: okay. I will add that.
[16:02] <MickMondo> thank you
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[16:02] <DanielRichman> m/s I presume?
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[16:05] <nosebleedkt> im melting
[16:05] <nosebleedkt> 34C currently in my room
[16:05] <nosebleedkt> and its still June !
[16:06] <fsphil> cloudy and horrible here
[16:10] Action: nick_ has air conditioning
[16:10] <MickMondo> Yes m/s
[16:11] Action: SpeedEvil has scotland.
[16:13] <nosebleedkt> i still have 34 :(
[16:16] Action: SpeedEvil gets nosebleedkt a large fridge, with a window in it.
[16:16] <fsphil> the windy part of scotland? :)
[16:17] <SpeedEvil> At the moment it's intermittantly sunny
[16:17] <SpeedEvil> ~17C?
[16:18] <nick_> Here it's 16C
[16:18] <nick_> But I need A/C since our environmental chamber kicks out a fair amount of heat.
[16:18] <nick_> So the lab was ~27C when I came in.
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> Get inside the environmental chamber.
[16:19] <nosebleedkt> lol
[16:19] <Lunar_Lander> hi nosebleedkt
[16:19] <Lunar_Lander> nice to see you got helium
[16:19] <nosebleedkt> hi luna
[16:20] <nosebleedkt> its a hydrogen bomb
[16:20] <nosebleedkt> ready to be planted on athens ministries :p
[16:21] <nosebleedkt> ok, its a joke dont call merkel :p
[16:21] <nick_> SpeedEvil: my boss might be pissed off by that, he's had a test running for some weeks that needs darkness.
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[16:27] <fsphil> an environment chamber would be nice this time of year
[16:27] <fsphil> or indeed any time of year
[16:29] <SpeedEvil> I'm basically constructing one out of a shed, as a beta-test for methods of insulating the house.
[16:30] <SpeedEvil> I'm aiming at ~100W heating will get it 20C over ambient.
[16:30] <Lunar_Lander> nosebleedkt, XD
[16:34] <nick_> SpeedEvil: just live underground
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[16:43] <Lunar_Lander> hi cuddykid
[16:46] <cuddykid> Hi Lunar_Lander
[16:46] <nick_> eroomde: daveake I'm heading home now, potentially via shops. Do you want me to pick up stuff for tomorrow?
[16:47] <Lunar_Lander> AXL ROSE ROCKS
[16:47] <Lunar_Lander> nick_, yeah bring bacon
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[16:49] <jdtanner> This'll give you all a laugh&please don;t comment on the liberal use of green wire ;)
[16:49] <jdtanner> http://youtu.be/aOBORMXec5s
[16:50] <nosebleedkt> 32C yea yea
[16:51] <daveake> nick_ No need ...
[16:51] <daveake> ... I'm about to pop out to stock up :)
[16:51] <nick_> OK
[16:52] <nick_> I can bring you a bottle of home brew if you'd like.
[16:52] <Lunar_Lander> nosebleedkt, I spent 11 hours of debugging yesterday
[16:52] <nick_> If nothing else the (swing top) bottle is pretty good.
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[16:52] <daveake> no need but up to you :)
[16:52] <daveake> brb
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[17:01] <Lunar_Lander> jdtanner, nosebleedkt I think I am the Stupidest Champion
[17:01] <jdtanner> Why (I think Champion=Person probably ;) )
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> there is a song by Andrew WK for the first Jackass movie which has the words "Stupidest Champion"
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> well you see I wanted to measure the voltage from my regulator
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> that was no problem
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> then I measured the current and got 1 amp
[17:03] <Lunar_Lander> but I measured the same way I measured the voltage, effectivly shorting the regulator
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[17:03] <Lunar_Lander> only noticed after my prof noted that
[17:03] <Lunar_Lander> and pointed out that the regulator got hot
[17:05] <jdtanner> I have no idea who Andrew WK is&but maybe that is because I'm not as young as I used to be ;)
[17:05] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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[18:00] <griffonbot> Received email: David Akerman "Re: [UKHAS] Brightwalton Launches 9th or 10th June"
[18:01] <nosebleedkt> Lunar_Lander
[18:01] <nosebleedkt> debugging what?
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[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> GPS code
[18:14] <Lunar_Lander> nosebleedkt, the code for GPS
[18:15] <fsphil> jdtanner: nice vid on orion on youtube. I bet you've stupidly good skies there
[18:17] <griffonbot> Received email: David Bowkis "Re: [UKHAS] Brightwalton Launches 9th or 10th June"
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[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> you know what is crappy too?
[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> I bought neon orange acrylic paint from an arts store
[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> cause I wanted to paint my payload
[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> but now I lost that paint
[18:23] <SpeedEvil> aAnd it dissolves polystyrene?
[18:23] <SpeedEvil> ah
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> no, I asked for a paint that can be used to paint polystyrene
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> and then he gave me acrylic
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> and IIRC the man who flew GAGA-1 wrote on his blog that this is correct
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[18:48] <daveake> LL acrylic is correct
[18:49] <griffonbot> Received email: David Akerman "Re: [UKHAS] Brightwalton Launches 9th or 10th June"
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[18:52] <Hiena> Lunar_Lander: Hint for payload painting:Use a non-aromatic boat varnish as a first coat, paint the desired color, and varniss it again. The boat varnish close the foam cell, and makes the structure more water and moisture resistant. Also, you could reduce the foam weight 5-10% simply drying the foam is the heating box. The most foam has open cell structure which collects water.
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[19:08] <SpeedEvil> If you care about foam weight, you're doing it wrong. :)
[19:08] <SpeedEvil> ^due to water
[19:11] <griffonbot> Received email: Mike Willis "RE: [UKHAS] Brightwalton Launches 9th or 10th June"
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[19:49] <griffonbot> Received email: Turbine "[UKHAS] Balloons"
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[20:00] <jcoxon> evening
[20:09] <number10> evening
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> thanks Hiena
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> sorry, had some talks
[20:18] <jdtanner> fsphil: Thanks, only just seen your message :)
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[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> hi RocketBoy
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> not sure if I can follow the launch tomorrow (dad's birthday)
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[21:47] <fsphil> I'd better setup a radio
[21:47] <Lunar_Lander> floater?
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[21:49] <fsphil> nah, it makes it difficult to reach the controls
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> but why should I set up a radio?
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> or do you mean yourself?
[21:51] <fsphil> I did say "I'd"
[21:52] <fsphil> We do not talk to ourselves in the third person
[21:53] <fsphil> right, cornflakes!
[21:53] <Lunar_Lander> yay!
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[21:58] <SpeedEvil> http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Castree-Kiln-Shop/_i.html?_fsub=12697256 - hmm - fun
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[22:04] <jdtanner1> Evening all...anyone got any experience of dl-fldigi on Linux?
[22:04] <jdtanner1> i.e. installing it :)
[22:05] <jonsowman> !g ukhas dl-fldigi
[22:05] <jonsowman> try that
[22:05] <Randomskk> it does work
[22:05] <Randomskk> but building from source is fun
[22:05] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[22:05] <jdtanner1> I keep getting a Dependency is not satisfiable: libxmlrpc-c3
[22:05] <jdtanner1> error
[22:05] <Lunar_Lander> jdtanner1 which distro?
[22:05] <Randomskk> perhaps install libxmlrpc
[22:06] <jdtanner1> lubuntu
[22:06] <jdtanner1> it is installed
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> there is a compiler for ubuntu
[22:06] <Randomskk> install -dev
[22:06] <Randomskk> package
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> I mean a how to do for Ubuntu
[22:06] <jdtanner1> Yeah, I was trying to avoid compiling it ;) But if that is qhat is required then hey ho
[22:06] <Randomskk> oh right
[22:06] <Randomskk> uhm
[22:07] <Randomskk> you should be able to install w/o compiling
[22:07] <Randomskk> what are you installing from?
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[22:07] <jdtanner1> I've had to download the deb package as the repo doesn't seem to be working at the moment
[22:07] <jdtanner1> PPA
[22:07] <Randomskk> hm
[22:07] <Randomskk> should work
[22:07] <Randomskk> what version of ubuntu?
[22:08] <Lunar_Lander> he mentioned Lubuntu
[22:08] <jdtanner1> Seems that the same error gets thrown by boxee as well...something to do with a change in the name of the xml package
[22:08] <jdtanner1> latest lubuntu
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[22:31] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] Balloons"
[22:37] <jdtanner1> Has anyone else managed to install dl-fldigi in Ubuntu Precise Pangolin?
[22:42] <fsphil> not sure, all fedora here
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> jdtanner, I stopped when seeing that I had to get two packages manually
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> (compiling)
[22:43] <fsphil> how far have yo ugot?
[22:46] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander> the page is different
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander> when I began I had this one http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi:build-ubuntu?rev=1333636231
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> I got until "from my PPA"
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> "In my PPA"
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> sorry
[22:50] <jdtanner1> yeah, it looks like I'll have to build a version for Precise :/
[22:50] <fsphil> what happens then?
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil, I just stopped
[22:50] <jdtanner1> It keeps asking for xml libraries which aren't avaiulable for precise
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> oh sorry
[22:52] <fsphil> well keep going Lunar_Lander :)
[22:52] <fsphil> the xml libraries should be pretty standard stuff
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> then I do
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> sudo apt-get install libjsoncpp-dev ?
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> as these are missing
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> right?
[22:55] <fsphil> I believe there is an official version of them now
[22:55] <fsphil> or that could debian, not sure
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> the wiki implies it
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi:build-ubuntu
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[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil, compiled!!
[23:24] <fsphil> congrats :)
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[23:26] <Lunar_Lander> xD thanks
[23:26] <Lunar_Lander> I mean I did that like three times on oneiric
[23:26] <Lunar_Lander> or however you spell that
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