highaltitude.log.20120526

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[00:00] <smrtz> hey, rex-t
[00:01] <smrtz> hey, rex0t's code has us transmitting at 800-400 Hz, but our radio can only receive in the 118-174 MHz range, any way to convert it?
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[00:13] <MrScienceMan> smrtz: 800 and 400 Hz are the tones
[00:14] <MrScienceMan> when you tune you receiver to the transmitter frequency
[00:14] <MrScienceMan> you should hear those two tones
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[00:17] <smrtz> ohh so I'm still doing 434.65MHZ
[00:17] <smrtz> thanks MrScienceMan
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[00:36] <griffonbot> @vk5gr: #projecthorus balloon crew arrived in Mildura and preps underway for launch tomorrow http://t.co/SI9WeQ5b #wianews http://t.co/8vZSOF6e [http://twitter.com/vk5gr/status/206181955480465408]
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[00:56] <smrtz> is there a way to change the signal to something within 100-200Mhz with out changing the tone/baud rate?
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[01:29] <smrtz> is there a way to change the signal to something within 100-200Mhz with out changing the tone/baud rate?
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[02:31] <smrtz> #hamradio
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[06:10] <SamSilver> aaaahhh coffeeeeeeee
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[06:26] <jcoxon> morningall
[06:27] <daveake> Morning jcoxon. I'll out from 4pm today - won't be able to track your balloon :(
[06:27] <daveake> I'm*
[06:27] <jcoxon> thats okay
[06:27] <jcoxon> its going to be a slow one
[06:28] <daveake> Still in range of Berks late evening?
[06:28] <daveake> If so I'll put the mast up before I go out
[06:28] <gb73d> i am near Reading
[06:29] <gb73d> is there a balloon today >
[06:29] <gb73d> ?
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[06:30] <jcoxon> gb73d, at 1600
[06:30] <jcoxon> daveake, might be
[06:30] <jcoxon> i'm really not sure
[06:30] <jcoxon> depends on if it floats
[06:30] <gb73d> yeah good i need to test the gp but its very hot in here
[06:31] <daveake> Other option is I could set the Funcube dongle software up in a VM and have someone remote control it
[06:31] <gb73d> will put it on the list for later tho
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[06:33] <gb73d> mys shack is ready for testing on UHF rx after decorating project
[06:34] <gb73d> ive reinstalled everything and got rid of clutter
[06:34] <gb73d> will try to be here 1600
[06:37] <jcoxon> predicted float start will be about 2030
[06:38] <gb73d> thats ok im wathcing eurovision tonight aswell
[06:39] <gb73d> #eurovision
[06:39] <gb73d> party
[06:39] <gb73d> sounds like a plan
[06:41] <daveake> We should be back by 20:30
[06:43] <gb73d> iv have to turn off the pc back soon
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[07:03] <griffonbot> @jgrahamc: RT @jamescoxon: Eurus 1 launch, high alt floater, east to west, launch from suffolk 1600 gmt+1 tomorrow , on 434.2mhz rtty #ukhas [http://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/206279431998799872]
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[07:27] <fsphil> urg, eurovision. I hate it, yet still watch it. whyyyyy
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[07:36] <SamSilver> jcoxon: how do we decode the values? > Battery: 1002 V Gps Lock: 3 Radio Power: 4 Nav Mode: 6
[07:38] <SamSilver> I get that the radio power is geofenced, so the 4 most likely means 10mw
[07:38] <jcoxon> yeah so 1002 is raw
[07:38] <jcoxon> its roughly raw / 155 to give battery voltage
[07:39] <jcoxon> gps lock if its 3 thats a 3d lock
[07:39] <jcoxon> 2 its a 2d lock
[07:39] <jcoxon> 0 no lock
[07:39] <jcoxon> radio power is the setting
[07:39] <jcoxon> 4 is 10mW, 7 is 100mW
[07:39] <jcoxon> and navmode needs to be 6
[07:40] <SamSilver> ohhh 100mW caerfull you don't melt the antenna
[07:40] <SamSilver> caefull
[07:40] <SamSilver> bugger lost my spelling fingers
[07:43] <jcoxon> its been tested
[07:43] <jcoxon> whther it'll actually work is a different matter
[07:43] <jcoxon> you know these damn rf22mb radios
[07:43] <jcoxon> sometimes they act up
[08:02] <fsphil> that's my concern with those radios
[08:02] <fsphil> they can reset
[08:09] <jcoxon> tehre is defintiely a bug in my code
[08:09] <jcoxon> but now is not hte time to look for it as i've got a simple work around
[08:12] <SamSilver> python?
[08:13] <jcoxon> nah its to to with the radio
[08:13] <jcoxon> right payload complete, batteries installed, tested
[08:14] <jcoxon> now to pack up
[08:16] <jcoxon> bbl
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[08:21] <fsphil> gonna be an interesting flight this
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[08:27] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: RT @jamescoxon: Eurus 1 launch, high alt floater, east to west, launch from suffolk 1600 gmt+1 tomorrow , on 434.2mhz rtty #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/206300400389865472]
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[08:37] <cuddykid> GL with the launch today!
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[08:38] <cuddykid> should be an interesting one
[08:38] <fsphil> hope so
[08:38] <fsphil> interesting in the good way
[08:38] <cuddykid> :)
[08:38] <cuddykid> anyone have a prediction?
[08:40] <fsphil> directly west from Suffolk
[08:40] <fsphil> heading straight for wales
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[08:40] <fsphil> predictor isn't behaving itself...
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[08:52] <cuddykid> nice
[08:52] <cuddykid> probably passing straight over worcs - shame I'm not there
[08:52] <cuddykid> ping daveake
[08:53] <griffonbot> @owh: Amateur Radio High Altitude Balloon Project with video, gps and other payloads. http://t.co/Jd0mwuaa #projecthorus #arduino [http://twitter.com/owh/status/206307122760253440]
[08:55] <fsphil> yea yea, that payloads got fancy video and radio stuff
[08:55] <fsphil> actually wonder what time they're launching
[08:55] <fsphil> they could be up at the same time
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[09:05] <cuddykid> great, exams finish on mon, then the forecast is rain
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[09:09] <fsphil> it's the law
[09:09] <fsphil> I'm stuck in the office all weekend while it's sunny
[09:09] <fsphil> bet it rains all next weekend
[09:11] <cuddykid> yep
[09:16] <jonsowman> morning all
[09:24] <fsphil> morning jonsowman
[09:24] <jonsowman> hows things?
[09:25] <fsphil> busy here, you?
[09:25] <jonsowman> all good, nice weather again
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[10:18] <upix> Can anyone help me with this problem: according to ukhas (and other) rfm22 guides it works in SPI mode 0 (Clock polarity - rising edge, clock phase - leading edge). On atmega16 that is CPOL=0 CPHA=0, and that is how I configured it SPCR = (1<<SPE) | (1<<MSTR); The problem is when I try to read a register from rfm I miss the LSB eg I set the register 0b00110010 and just after read it and get 0b00011001
[10:19] <upix> Any ideas?
[10:19] <SpeedEvil> ##avr ?
[10:19] <upix> yes
[10:19] <SpeedEvil> Or ##electronics - if nobody pops up
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[12:12] <jcoxon> hey all
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[12:13] <jonsowman> afternoon jcoxon
[12:13] <jonsowman> all ready for eurus launch?
[12:14] <jcoxon> yeah, am in the barn
[12:14] <jcoxon> just setting up internets etc
[12:14] <jonsowman> :)
[12:14] <jonsowman> good stuff
[12:14] <jcoxon> its a bit gusty
[12:14] <jcoxon> so i think we'll line launch
[12:14] <jonsowman> steve there with you?
[12:15] <jcoxon> not yet
[12:15] <jcoxon> he'll be here at 1430
[12:15] <jcoxon> we are aiming for launch at 1600
[12:15] <jcoxon> but its not that time dependent
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[12:15] <jonsowman> cool ok
[12:15] <jonsowman> got the sdr set up
[12:17] <jcoxon> great
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[12:17] <jcoxon> might try and hit the local repeater
[12:18] <jonsowman> which one's that?
[12:18] <jonsowman> i assume you're meaning just voice from the ground
[12:19] <jcoxon> GB3EA
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[12:21] <jonsowman> ah ok
[12:21] <jonsowman> i'm listening to GB3PY at the moment
[12:21] <jonsowman> not sure if I'd get EA from here
[12:21] <jcoxon> thats too far for me
[12:21] <jcoxon> coverage of EA is good
[12:21] <jonsowman> i'll try EA
[12:22] <jonsowman> awkward frequencies
[12:23] <jonsowman> what's your callsign?
[12:23] <jcoxon> hmmm can't hit it
[12:23] <jcoxon> m6jcx
[12:24] <jonsowman> nope, can't get it
[12:24] <Darkside> evening all
[12:24] <Darkside> are there any launches today in the UK?
[12:24] <jonsowman> yes
[12:24] <Darkside> is someone going to update the predictor
[12:24] <Darkside> i mean
[12:25] <Darkside> spacenearus
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[12:25] <jcoxon> no point doing predictor on this flight
[12:25] <Darkside> oh are you doing a floater?
[12:25] <jonsowman> jcoxon: is flight doc all done?
[12:25] <Darkside> we're launching at 22Z
[12:25] <jcoxon> jonsowman, yeah
[12:25] <jcoxon> tested this morning
[12:25] <jonsowman> cool
[12:26] <Darkside> well we have one hell of a launch day tomorrow
[12:26] <jcoxon> yeah?
[12:26] <Darkside> 2 launches, one 8am one 9am
[12:27] <Darkside> both going into interesting territory
[12:27] <jonsowman> EA doesn't seem to be on echolink either
[12:27] <jonsowman> PY is, if you have internet
[12:27] <Darkside> http://projecthorus.org/?p=2287
[12:27] <Darkside> thats the launch info
[12:28] <Darkside> we did our talk to the WIA AGM today
[12:28] <jcoxon> the reason i'd be keen to hit a repeater is that i could see if anyone could hear it before launch
[12:28] <Darkside> WIA being our equiv of RSGB
[12:28] <jonsowman> ah i see
[12:28] <Darkside> its goign into a shitty area
[12:30] <Darkside> has there been a difference with wing grabber
[12:30] <Darkside> wind grabber
[12:30] <Darkside> our wind grabber app stopped working
[12:30] <Darkside> did NOAA change the interface or something?
[12:35] <jonsowman> do you use the DAP interface?
[12:35] <Darkside> i think so
[12:35] <jonsowman> nothing's changed afaik
[12:35] <Darkside> dunno what the error is..
[12:35] <Darkside> we're working around it amt
[12:35] <jonsowman> fair enough
[12:36] <jonsowman> sometimes the DAP interface does error when there is data missing or something
[12:36] <Darkside> mm
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[12:49] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[12:49] <jcoxon> jonsowman, has the submodule in dl-fldigi changed?
[12:49] <jonsowman> i've no idea about dl-fldigi work really, i don't work on it
[12:50] <jonsowman> which submodule?
[12:50] <jcoxon> habitat extensions
[12:50] <jonsowman> hmm
[12:50] <jonsowman> i really don't know
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[12:50] <Lunar_Lander> hi jcoxon , jonsowman
[12:50] <jonsowman> hi
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[12:51] <Lunar_Lander> got a word from the RealTerm developer, he doesn't know why VirusTotal has a detection rate of 3/42 for his new version being a trojan
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[12:52] <Darkside> hmm weird
[12:52] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[12:52] <Darkside> got amachine here that doesn't decoder peroperly
[12:52] <Lunar_Lander> probably false positive?
[12:52] <Darkside> it decodes the first part of the sentence fine
[12:52] <Darkside> but it then scrtews up for the last few chars
[12:52] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[12:52] <Lunar_Lander> a machine=a computer?
[12:52] <Darkside> no apparent reason
[12:52] <Darkside> jonsowman: jcoxon
[12:53] <jonsowman> when you say screws up
[12:53] <jcoxon> fixed
[12:53] <jonsowman> what does it what exactly happens?
[12:53] <jonsowman> what was it jcoxon?
[12:53] <Darkside> it doesn't decoder peroperly
[12:53] <Darkside> decode
[12:53] <Darkside> anotehr machine decodes fine
[12:54] <Darkside> same signal source
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[12:54] <jonsowman> so nothing appears in the rx buffer?
[12:54] <Darkside> it decodes gibberish for the last few characters
[12:54] <jonsowman> sql off?
[12:54] <Darkside> first 3/4 of the sentence is fine
[12:54] <Darkside> yes
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[12:54] <jonsowman> weird
[12:54] <jonsowman> not come across that before
[12:54] <Darkside> yeah no shit
[12:54] <Darkside> its being really annoying, because this was meant to be our backup tracker
[12:54] <Lunar_Lander> what's sql?
[12:55] <jonsowman> squelch
[12:55] <jcoxon> Darkside, i had similar problems in the past
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[12:55] <jcoxon> its was a timing issue
[12:55] <Darkside> timing issue?
[12:55] <jcoxon> like it was at the edge of its range
[12:55] <Darkside> payload wise?
[12:55] <Darkside> hrm
[12:55] <Darkside> it shuld be fine
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[13:06] <jcoxon> ping jonsowman
[13:06] <jonsowman> hey
[13:06] <jonsowman> what's up?
[13:06] <jcoxon> can you activate xaben
[13:06] <jcoxon> on habitat
[13:06] <jonsowman> yes
[13:06] <jonsowman> same as last time?
[13:06] <jcoxon> yeah
[13:07] <jonsowman> right
[13:07] <jonsowman> 2 mins
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[13:08] <jonsowman> jcoxon: done
[13:08] <jonsowman> should be all good
[13:08] <jonsowman> let me know if it's not working
[13:08] <Lunar_Lander> hi nosebleedkt
[13:09] <nosebleedkt> Hello
[13:09] <nosebleedkt> i dont know why but my internet connection is dying
[13:09] <jonsowman> jcoxon: frequency is set to 434.300
[13:09] <jonsowman> not that it really matters
[13:10] <nosebleedkt> i orderd 5.5 cubic meters of helium + Tank = 280e
[13:10] <nosebleedkt> which is 1/3 of my salary, lol
[13:10] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[13:11] <Darkside> sorry for the horus data guys
[13:11] <jcoxon> okay we are first going to launch XABEN
[13:11] <Darkside> we're just going some final testing before we all go to bed
[13:11] <jonsowman> okay jcoxon
[13:12] <Darkside> i'll get the guys to finish up the testing now
[13:12] <jcoxon> just about to fill
[13:12] <nosebleedkt> Lunar_Lander: when did you say you will have the results?
[13:13] <Darkside> ok you've wiped it
[13:13] <Darkside> cool
[13:13] <Lunar_Lander> hopefully sometime next week
[13:13] <Darkside> we won'y be uploading anything for about 6-7 hours
[13:13] <Darkside> when we get out into the field
[13:14] <Darkside> so i bed thee all godnight
[13:14] <Darkside> goodnight*
[13:14] <nosebleedkt> Darkside
[13:14] <nosebleedkt> where r u?
[13:14] <jonsowman> jcoxon: what are the frequencies?
[13:15] <jcoxon> 434.300
[13:15] <jcoxon> for XABEN
[13:15] <jcoxon> we'll do that first
[13:15] <jonsowman> ok, and for EURUS?
[13:15] <jonsowman> just updating spacenear
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[13:17] <jcoxon> 434.200
[13:17] <jonsowman> thanks
[13:18] <jonsowman> setting up predictions
[13:18] <jonsowman> useful for XABEN
[13:18] <Lunar_Lander> nosebleedkt, he is from australia
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[13:19] <Lunar_Lander> when will EURUS launch?
[13:23] <jcoxon> 1600 local
[13:23] <fsphil> hopefully get home in time
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[13:24] <fsphil> it seems to be going further south than was predicted earlier in the week
[13:24] <Lunar_Lander> wb nosebleedkt
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[13:25] <fsphil> when's xaben going up?
[13:25] <jonsowman> soon
[13:25] <fsphil> I'll be tracking that from upu's station if all works
[13:26] <jonsowman> good stuff
[13:26] <jonsowman> :)
[13:26] <Lunar_Lander> cool you are at Upu's house?
[13:26] <fsphil> yea, but don't tell him ;)
[13:26] <fsphil> (not really)
[13:26] <cuddykid> ping daveake
[13:26] <jonsowman> that's not creepy at all
[13:27] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
[13:27] <fsphil> I'll be controlling the radio through the powers of the internet
[13:27] <fsphil> brb
[13:28] <Lunar_Lander> hey cuddykid
[13:28] <cuddykid> hi LL :)
[13:29] <Darkside> you guys might be up for our launches
[13:29] <Darkside> we'll be going out of sig range fast tho
[13:30] <Darkside> hey can you.get spot.onto spacenearua
[13:30] <Darkside> as we have spot in car
[13:35] <Darkside> sleep time
[13:35] <Darkside> nn
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[13:36] <jcoxon> filling
[13:36] <jonsowman> jcoxon: got an estimated burst/ascent/descent for XABEN?
[13:36] <jcoxon> high
[13:37] <Laurenceb_> hahaha
[13:37] <jonsowman> can that be any more quantified?
[13:37] <jcoxon> not yet
[13:37] <Laurenceb_> its xaben
[13:37] <jonsowman> lol ok
[13:37] <Laurenceb_> what do you expect :P
[13:37] <jcoxon> we are going to use all the H2 in the tank
[13:37] <jonsowman> i'll set it as 45km
[13:37] <jonsowman> :P
[13:37] <Laurenceb_> send the notam to the iss
[13:39] <jonsowman> okay predictions running
[13:39] <jonsowman> set to 40km and 5m/s up & down at the moment
[13:40] <jonsowman> can update when i have more accurate numbers
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[13:41] <Laurenceb_> whats the custom?
[13:44] <Lunar_Lander> cuddykid, how is life?
[13:45] <cuddykid> Lunar_Lander: good thanks, however it's nice and sunny outside and I have to revise for exam on mon - however it is my last one :D wbu?
[13:46] <jcoxon> balloon filled
[13:46] <jcoxon> just tying everything together
[13:47] <jonsowman> :)
[13:47] <Lunar_Lander> OHHHHH!
[13:48] <Lunar_Lander> I am OK, thanks and I am sweating due to local weather
[13:48] <Lunar_Lander> what exam is this?
[13:48] <cuddykid> Lunar_Lander: economics exam for uni
[13:48] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[13:48] <cuddykid> however currently I'm coding rather than revising lol
[13:49] <Lunar_Lander> wish you best of luck
[13:49] <Lunar_Lander> yeah xD
[13:49] <cuddykid> thanks :)
[13:49] <Lunar_Lander> you're welcome
[13:49] <Lunar_Lander> earlier I was struggling with my lab laptop which has XP, cause CoolTerm seems to drop old lines
[13:49] <Lunar_Lander> not good for a long run of a geiger counter
[13:49] <Lunar_Lander> and RealTerm v70 has a trojan (but possibly false positive) according to virustotal
[13:50] <Lunar_Lander> so I got RealTerm v57 which is clean
[13:50] <Lunar_Lander> hope that works and is ok
[13:59] <jcoxon> up
[14:00] <danielsaul> :D
[14:00] <jonsowman> :)
[14:00] <jonsowman> nice one
[14:02] <jcoxon> anyone listening?
[14:02] <danielsaul> Cant see it on apex yet
[14:02] <jonsowman> nothing here yet
[14:03] <LazyLeopard> listening, but not yet hearing....
[14:03] <cuddykid> that's landing v close to home in worcs
[14:03] <jcoxon> difficult launch as had a sudden gust
[14:04] <jcoxon> those balloons are like sails
[14:04] <Lunar_Lander> XABEN-26?
[14:04] <cuddykid> jcoxon: are you chasing?
[14:04] <jcoxon> not yet
[14:04] <jcoxon> we are going to see how it goes
[14:04] <jcoxon> and also we need to launch eurus
[14:05] <cuddykid> :D
[14:06] <jcoxon> yay someone else listening
[14:06] <jcoxon> i can get on with other stuff
[14:06] <jcoxon> bbiab
[14:08] <LazyLeopard> Getting a signl, but not decoding. Which config?
[14:08] <danielsaul> Got it :D
[14:08] <danielsaul> maybe not
[14:08] <danielsaul> ish
[14:09] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[14:09] <jonsowman> dial?
[14:09] <LazyLeopard> What config?
[14:10] <LazyLeopard> 434.300.10
[14:10] <danielsaul> Im on .300.000 exactly...
[14:11] <jonsowman> ta
[14:11] <jonsowman> nothing yet, but only using a whip
[14:11] <danielsaul> jonsowman: Where are you?
[14:11] <LazyLeopard> Which flight config is it supposed to be? XABEN or EURUS?
[14:11] <danielsaul> xaben
[14:12] <jonsowman> cambridge
[14:12] <jonsowman> should go right over my head :)
[14:12] <danielsaul> You're not on the map
[14:12] <jonsowman> oh yea
[14:13] <jonsowman> should be on there now
[14:14] <Lunar_Lander> XABEN pressure and temperature sensor not working
[14:14] <danielsaul> Keep getting bursts of yellow on the waterfall messing up decodes :/
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[14:17] <navrac> blimey - its a strong signal
[14:18] <LazyLeopard> I'm getting a hideous 2HZ(-ish) beat on the signal
[14:19] <LazyLeopard> Completely killing any chance of decode...
[14:24] <SpeedEvil> Do you have any wind turbines nearby?
[14:24] <LazyLeopard> Wonder which of my neighbours is doing what...
[14:24] <LazyLeopard> Not aware of any....
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[14:29] <jonsowman> urgh, udev
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[14:41] <LazyLeopard> Ok. That's weird. It's definitely from the payload.
[14:43] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[14:44] <jonsowman> anyone using a pl2303 usb-serial adapter under ubuntu/debian?
[14:44] <jonsowman> need a udev rule for it
[14:46] <LazyLeopard> Not here...
[14:48] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Have I got the correct XABEN setup, I wonder...
[14:48] <LazyLeopard> It's saying May 20th...
[14:49] <jonsowman> yeah ignore that
[14:49] <jonsowman> the settings are correct
[14:49] <jonsowman> i just didnt bother changing the date
[14:49] <LazyLeopard> So, 50 baud, 7N1
[14:49] <LazyLeopard> 425 shift.
[14:49] <jonsowman> yep
[14:49] <jonsowman> shift seems to be actually more like 460
[14:50] <jonsowman> but yes it's set at 425 in the flight doc
[14:50] <LazyLeopard> Indeed.
[14:50] <LazyLeopard> Simply not decoding at all here.
[14:50] <jonsowman> correct sideband?
[14:51] <LazyLeopard> Can't get rid of the 2HZ beat.
[14:51] <jonsowman> sql off?
[14:51] <LazyLeopard> Tried both. Tried Rv and not Rv
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[14:51] <jonsowman> i'm on radio USB and RV unchecked
[14:51] <jonsowman> decoding fine
[14:52] <jonsowman> the gaps between packets sound a bit weird though
[14:52] <jcoxon> those are idle chars
[14:52] <fsphil> oh it's up
[14:52] <jonsowman> it is fsphil
[14:52] <jonsowman> 10km ish
[14:52] <fsphil> silly meetings
[14:53] <jonsowman> drifting a lot
[14:53] <jonsowman> and udev is not playing nicely with my cat cable >.>
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon, status on EURUS?
[14:54] <fsphil> what's the dial at?
[14:54] <jonsowman> 434.30654
[14:54] <jonsowman> USB, no RV
[14:55] <fsphil> nice signal up north
[14:55] <junderwood_M0JCU> I would be nice if autotune in dlfldigi was a little more reliable
[14:56] <junderwood_M0JCU> s/I/It/
[14:56] <jonsowman> it's being worked on
[14:56] <fsphil> it's broken in the old versions
[14:56] <fsphil> the new version works well but tunes in one big jump
[14:56] <jonsowman> what version are you running junderwood_M0JCU?
[14:56] <junderwood_M0JCU> It sometimes works on the version I'm using - sometimes not
[14:56] <junderwood_M0JCU> let me look
[14:56] <fsphil> (the new version being the habhub beta)
[14:56] <Lunar_Lander> cool, EURUS battery at 1018 volts
[14:56] <fsphil> Lunar_Lander: yea, we're using ion propulsion
[14:56] <junderwood_M0JCU> Hmm. No help menu on the HAB version
[14:57] <jonsowman> there is on ubuntu
[14:57] <jonsowman> help > about
[14:57] <Lunar_Lander> COOL!
[14:57] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[14:57] <junderwood_M0JCU> Not on Windoze
[14:57] <fsphil> (only joking, no ion drive ;)
[14:57] <Lunar_Lander> XD I know
[14:57] <jonsowman> urgh qrm
[14:57] <junderwood_M0JCU> 3.20.34 according to the start menu
[14:57] <jonsowman> hmm it should be fine in that
[14:57] <jonsowman> although there is a newer version
[14:57] <jonsowman> 3.21.x
[14:58] <fsphil> is 3.20.34 the last stable release?
[14:58] <jonsowman> i think so
[14:58] <fsphil> yea, it's faulty in that then
[14:58] <navrac> i need to make mine work with the funcube for autotune
[14:58] <fsphil> it stops working after a few strings
[14:58] <jonsowman> though 3.21.x is very stable afaik
[14:58] <fsphil> it is
[14:58] <junderwood_M0JCU> Where do I find it?
[14:58] <fsphil> junderwood_M0JCU: try using the newer betas: https://github.com/danielrichman/dl-fldigi/downloads
[14:59] <junderwood_M0JCU> ]->
[14:59] <fsphil> there is code that stops it tunning during a string, but a bug meant that sometimes it thought the string never ended
[14:59] <fsphil> so it never retuned
[15:00] <junderwood_M0JCU> Could do with a timeout
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[15:01] <fsphil> yea, the beta always gives up after about 150 characters or so
[15:01] <fsphil> no string should be that long
[15:01] <jonsowman> apex ii was ~175 chars iirc
[15:02] <fsphil> and if someone does do it, they deserve a slap :)
[15:02] <jonsowman> lol
[15:02] <jonsowman> arguably too many sensors on that payload
[15:02] <priyesh> too many batteries on apex iii l1
[15:02] <SamSilver_> jcoxon: looking good > 7 x sats 3d lock nav mode 6
[15:03] <SamSilver_> 6.6V
[15:04] <jonsowman> 10dB SNR on a whip
[15:04] <jonsowman> hehe
[15:04] <jonsowman> it is rather close to cambridge though
[15:04] <LazyLeopard> Really puzzled. Huge signal. No decode.
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[15:05] <LazyLeopard> Begining to suspect new Ubuntu or new dl-fldigi
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[15:05] <LazyLeopard> ...or some bastard combination of the two?
[15:05] <jonsowman> LazyLeopard: i compiled dl-fldigi today on a brand new 12.04 install
[15:05] <jonsowman> working fine
[15:06] <jonsowman> i suspect something more subtle
[15:06] <LazyLeopard> Re-compiling now following a bunch of updates that hit this morning...
[15:06] <LazyLeopard> Tried the usual subtleties...
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[15:07] <LazyLeopard> Only thing obvious is the 2Hz beat I'm hearing, which I get both on the colinear and on the yagi, and which is following the payload frequency.
[15:07] <jcoxon> up
[15:08] <LazyLeopard> What frequency is it on?
[15:08] <jonsowman> 434.200
[15:08] <jonsowman> lawnmower QRM
[15:08] <jonsowman> woo
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[15:13] <fsphil> oh I hate that
[15:13] <fsphil> usually happens me
[15:14] <jonsowman> just about to overfly duxford
[15:14] <LazyLeopard> It's been steady on the signal since the signal appeared, and it moves with the signal.
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[15:15] <jonsowman> LazyLeopard: screenshot?
[15:16] <jcoxon> eurus isn't particularly loud
[15:17] <LazyLeopard> I can just barely hear EURUS
[15:17] <LazyLeopard> Faintest trace on waterfall.
[15:17] <fsphil> got xaben very weakly at my home station
[15:17] <junderwood_M0JCU> Xaben is a great signal. 10mW erp?
[15:22] <jcoxon> yeah
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[15:23] <LazyLeopard> Ok. EURUS won't decode either. Sound is getting through to laptop. Waterfall looks fine.
[15:23] <LazyLeopard> Methinks my dl-fldigi has something broken
[15:23] <SamSilver_> jcoxon: is 1.6 m/s a good climb rate or on the high side?
[15:24] <junderwood_M0JCU> Not a peep from EURUS here. I should be able to get _something_
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[15:24] <junderwood_M0JCU> What is the dial freq?
[15:24] <jonsowman> 434.3073
[15:24] <jonsowman> for XABEN
[15:24] <junderwood_M0JCU> for Euros
[15:24] <LazyLeopard> 434.193.730 fro EURUS
[15:24] <junderwood_M0JCU> Ah
[15:25] <junderwood_M0JCU> Still nothing
[15:27] Action: craag is going to wrap the dangling rtl-sdr in some tissue and tape - every time the wind blows, the rx frequency wobbles about 100hz..
[15:28] <jonsowman> woo rig control working
[15:28] <jonsowman> craag: lol
[15:28] <jonsowman> :D
[15:28] <jonsowman> are you decoding with it?>
[15:28] <craag> yes, very successfully.
[15:28] <jonsowman> awesome :D HDSDR & windows?
[15:29] <fsphil> sweet
[15:29] <craag> yep. Haven't got dl-fldigi working on ubuntu yet.
[15:29] <jonsowman> good work
[15:30] <fsphil> if either of these get close to me I'll try the sdr
[15:31] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm...
[15:31] <LazyLeopard> Out of ideas.
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[15:32] <fsphil> screenshot?
[15:32] <junderwood_M0JCU> Fading on Xaben
[15:32] <LazyLeopard> Waterfall looks OK, but almost nothing decodes. It's as if it's listening at 5 baud rather than 50.
[15:33] <jonsowman> craag: decoding here with fldigi, ubuntu and gnuradio :)
[15:33] <craag> Nice!
[15:33] <LazyLeopard> Havn't a clue where ubuntu has put its screenshot utility since the latest update...
[15:34] <jonsowman> LazyLeopard: are you using unity?
[15:34] <LazyLeopard> No idea
[15:34] <LazyLeopard> Whatever monstrosity it changed to. Looks like a bad attempt to copy Mac OS X
[15:35] <jonsowman> craag: fsphil: http://hexoc.com/u/rtl-xaben.png
[15:35] <jonsowman> LazyLeopard: yeah that's unit
[15:35] <jonsowman> y
[15:35] <craag> That sounds like unity..
[15:35] <jonsowman> you can change back to gnome if you like
[15:36] <fsphil> nice work jonsowman
[15:36] <LazyLeopard> Tried that. Old laptop is old, and struggled.
[15:36] <craag> jonsowman: Awesome. Which repo did you compile dl-fldigi from?
[15:36] <jonsowman> DanielRichman's
[15:36] <jonsowman> follow the instructions on the ukhas page
[15:37] <jonsowman> don't forget to install libjsoncpp0 and libjsoncpp-dev from his ppa
[15:37] <fsphil> xaben seems to be wandering more than the euro financial system
[15:37] <DanielRichman> ubuntu 12.04 beware
[15:37] <jonsowman> fsphil: hahah
[15:37] <craag> Ok thanks!
[15:37] <jonsowman> DanielRichman: worked flawlessly here
[15:37] <jonsowman> built and is running without problems
[15:37] <DanielRichman> did you force the install of those packages from the ppa? - there's a version of jsoncpp in the official repos too now
[15:38] <DanielRichman> (with a higher version)
[15:38] <jonsowman> DanielRichman: i just installed directly from your ppa
[15:38] <junderwood_M0JCU> I can finally see EURUS (I think). By the time it's overhead I may get a decode.
[15:38] <jonsowman> i didn't know they were in repos, and just assumed not
[15:38] <DanielRichman> I didn't even know until someone said it wasn't working :P. I was planning to change things so that it built using the official ones soon
[15:39] <jonsowman> yep that seems sensible
[15:39] <jonsowman> does it not build using the repos at the moment then?
[15:39] <DanielRichman> the headers are in a slightly different place -
[15:39] <jonsowman> i assume autoconf is looking in the wrong place for libjsoncpp or something?
[15:40] <jonsowman> mm, typical
[15:40] <DanielRichman> jsoncpp has a 'json/json.h' file, which you can't install to /usr/include/json/json.h since that conflicts with a rather popular C json library
[15:40] <jonsowman> ha
[15:40] <jonsowman> i see
[15:40] <jonsowman> still, installing using your ppa worked fine on 12.04
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[15:40] <DanielRichman> the offical ones did the... arguably more sensible thing of installing to /usr/include/jsoncpp/json/json.h then adding a pkgconfig file that adds that directory
[15:41] <DanielRichman> I just renamed json to jsoncpp and used #include jsoncpp/json.h
[15:41] <jonsowman> cool :)
[15:41] <DanielRichman> so yeah I'll clean that up
[15:41] <jonsowman> yeah that seems a more sensible install location
[15:42] <jonsowman> well this sdr is working amazingly well
[15:42] <jonsowman> not as sensitive as the 817, but pretty good
[15:42] <Matt_soton> i have eurus on -4dB
[15:43] <junderwood_M0JCU> Matt_soton, what antenna?
[15:43] <gonzo_> qrg for eurus?
[15:43] <Matt_soton> colinear
[15:43] <junderwood_M0JCU> Wow
[15:44] <Matt_soton> finally a string that doesnt have one error
[15:44] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... I presume the version I've built is in some way defective...
[15:44] <jonsowman> the sdr is about 5dB down on the 817 according to fldigi
[15:44] <Matt_soton> thats not too bad really
[15:44] <jonsowman> not at all
[15:44] <jonsowman> though i dont know how much to trust fldigi's SNR calcs
[15:44] <f5ct> test. 73
[15:45] <Matt_soton> other issue is strong carriers screwign the dynamic range
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[15:45] <G0MJW> Oops. Late!
[15:46] <Matt_soton> is the power on the radio turned down?
[15:46] <Matt_soton> the radio on eurus
[15:46] <jonsowman> not sure
[15:46] <junderwood_M0JCU> Or did James forget to attach the antenna?
[15:46] <Matt_soton> well its only at 4k
[15:47] <G0MJW> Frequency?
[15:47] <Matt_soton> consistant decode now
[15:47] <Matt_soton> .195
[15:47] <junderwood_M0JCU> 434.195
[15:47] <junderwood_M0JCU> I had a good decode on Xaben at less than 1km
[15:47] <G0MJW> Something on 308 is 59
[15:48] <jonsowman> i've got my LO sitting about 25 kHz above :P
[15:48] <G0MJW> XABEN. Vy strong
[15:48] <jonsowman> xaben thinks its descending?
[15:49] <junderwood_M0JCU> Yay. Decode!
[15:49] <Matt_soton> there is also a weird splat of power across the spectrum during eurus' 'wait' period
[15:52] <jcoxon> eurus is one of my early rfm22 test boards
[15:52] <jcoxon> its a little bit hacked up
[15:52] <jonsowman> 13dB on the SDR
[15:53] <cuddykid> have either got a camera on board
[15:53] <cuddykid> ?
[15:53] <jcoxon> no cameras
[15:54] <jonsowman> craag: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonsowman/7273795846/in/photostream
[15:55] <Matt_soton> jonsowman: see if using a usb extension lead to get it away from the pc helps
[15:55] <craag> I was going to mention that.
[15:55] <jonsowman> will do
[15:55] <jonsowman> lemme try and find one
[15:55] <fsphil> decoding xaben at home, yay
[15:55] <craag> I'll grab my camera and see if I can get some pics of the hastily-taped-together setup here.
[15:56] <jcoxon> i think eurus is spinning a bit
[15:56] <fsphil> I've found eurus on upu's station, not decoding
[15:57] <jonsowman> okay it's now on an extension
[15:57] <jonsowman> perhaps slightly better but not noticeably
[15:57] <jonsowman> SNR still about the same
[15:57] <G0MJW> I have moved over to Erus to look at it. There is an autoconfig problem. 23Hz shift
[15:57] <jonsowman> G0MJW: you're using an old dl-fldigi
[15:58] <fsphil> that's a bug in the old version of dl-fldigi
[15:58] <G0MJW> Can't keep up!
[15:58] <fsphil> 525.1km from xaben
[15:58] <jonsowman> G0MJW: for now you can just set it manually
[15:58] <jonsowman> but you'll want to upgrade to stop that happening
[15:59] <jonsowman> (it only breaks on shifts that aren't in the dropdown list)
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[15:59] <G0MJW> You software developers and rapid release cycle! Not quite as bad as Java or Adobe though.
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[16:00] <LazyLeopard> DanielRichman: Erf. I suspect my dl-fldigi's broken on account of json?
[16:00] <G0MJW> Erus is nowhere near as strong at XABEN
[16:01] <G0MJW> Eurus I mean.
[16:01] <fsphil> to be fair I think we've only officially released one dl-fldigi in the last year :)
[16:01] <jcoxon> it might be a superior antenna design
[16:01] <DanielRichman> LazyLeopard: building it on 12.04?
[16:01] <jonsowman> anyone got a dial for eurus?
[16:01] <Matt_soton> jcoxon: photos of payload?
[16:02] <Matt_soton> jonsowman: 196
[16:02] <LazyLeopard> Trying to.
[16:02] <G0MJW> I am using an 18 element yagi with circular polarisation. No fading.
[16:02] <Matt_soton> well 197 now
[16:02] <LazyLeopard> Had it built, but not working...
[16:02] <DanielRichman> LazyLeopard: okay. You have a couple of options to make it work;
[16:02] <LazyLeopard> Right
[16:02] <G0MJW> Much different to the horizontal yagi or the dipole.
[16:02] <DanielRichman> 1) cd /usr/include; sudo ln -s jsoncpp/json jsoncpp
[16:02] <jcoxon> Matt_soton, i do but can't upload them right now
[16:03] <jcoxon> the key is to see if this will float
[16:03] <LazyLeopard> I seem to have the "official" jsoncpp packages installed...
[16:03] <jonsowman> dial for xaben? (as precise as possible please)
[16:03] <jonsowman> and
[16:03] <DanielRichman> 2) you have jsoncpp 0.6 from ubuntu installed. Grab the two 0.5 debs from here https://launchpad.net/~danieljonathanrichman/+archive/ppa/+packages and install them using sudo dpkg -i libjsoncpp*.deb
[16:03] <jonsowman> where it places the upper tone
[16:03] <DanielRichman> LazyLeopard: yes you do indeed. That's fine; 1) will make it work
[16:03] <LazyLeopard> Ok
[16:03] <DanielRichman> uh no it won't
[16:03] <DanielRichman> 1sec
[16:04] <DanielRichman> cd /usr/include/jsoncpp; sudo ln -s jsoncpp/* .
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[16:07] <craag> jonsowman: Tracking here today: http://goo.gl/sR8N7
[16:07] <jonsowman> 30k for xaben
[16:07] <jonsowman> nice one craag
[16:07] <jonsowman> what antenna is it?
[16:07] <LazyLeopard> XABEN: 434.307.05
[16:08] <fsphil> lovely signal from xaben in cookstown
[16:08] <jonsowman> and where is the upper tone on the dl-fldigi waterfall LazyLeopard?
[16:08] <craag> It's a dipole made out of wire soldered onto a BNC socket I had lying around :P
[16:08] <jonsowman> nice
[16:08] <jonsowman> :D
[16:08] <fsphil> very nice
[16:08] <fsphil> eurus getting slightly stronger in yorkshire
[16:09] <G0MJW> Eurus is heading up the band. Had to re-tune. 1.988 now
[16:09] <G0MJW> 434.1988
[16:10] <jonsowman> 32km
[16:10] <jonsowman> needs at least another 10km
[16:11] <fsphil> xaben heading this way fast, 520km
[16:12] <jcoxon> fsphil, got my chinese radios
[16:12] <jcoxon> this fade on eurus is annoying
[16:13] <fsphil> nice jcoxon. what do you think of them?
[16:13] <jcoxon> they are tiny
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[16:14] <fsphil> certainly are. I quite like them, they seem to perform as good as my vx-7r
[16:14] <fsphil> nowhere near as friendly though
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[16:15] <G0MJW> Eurus copy has gone from solid to suspect.
[16:16] <fsphil> no change in yorkshire. afc keeps losing it
[16:16] <jcoxon> it might be spinning in a bit high velolcity winds
[16:16] <fsphil> xaben interestingly high already :)
[16:17] <jonsowman> this is nothing for xaben :P
[16:17] <fsphil> lol
[16:17] <G0MJW> 34km. What is the record again fsphil?
[16:17] <fsphil> 43.5km or something
[16:17] <jonsowman> something silly like that
[16:17] <fsphil> 43721m
[16:18] <G0MJW> pah. Is that all?
[16:18] <fsphil> madness :)
[16:20] <fsphil> eurus coordinates don't appear to have decimal points
[16:20] <jcoxon> no floats!
[16:20] <jcoxon> don't worry habitat does the hardwork
[16:20] <fsphil> aah
[16:20] <G0MJW> I presume this is another feature of my old version of Fl-digi
[16:20] <jonsowman> what is?
[16:21] <fsphil> you can still have decimal points if you want to without floats, but actually this way is better
[16:21] <fsphil> no point transmitting the point :)
[16:21] <jonsowman> i see what you did there
[16:21] <G0MJW> no pint at all
[16:21] <G0MJW> no point at all. just a few commas and colons
[16:22] <fsphil> lets put a full stop to this now before it gets out of hand
[16:22] <G0MJW> Yes. Period.
[16:22] <jonsowman> oh god
[16:22] <jonsowman> stop encouraging him G0MJW
[16:22] <jonsowman> :D
[16:23] <fsphil> 36km for xaben
[16:23] <jonsowman> bets on altitude?
[16:23] <fsphil> I bet I could receive this on the rtl-sdr even at this distance
[16:23] <fsphil> the signal is great
[16:23] <jonsowman> you should try it fsphil
[16:23] <jonsowman> it's working really nicely here
[16:23] <fsphil> I'm still at work :/
[16:23] <jonsowman> ah :(
[16:23] <jonsowman> that's a shame
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[16:23] <jonsowman> hopefully at least EURUS will still be up by the time you're home
[16:24] <fsphil> yea, I should have been outta here an hour ago
[16:24] <G0MJW> I just installed RTL-SDR. Remarkable. I could hear the local repeater, on several frequencies.
[16:24] <jonsowman> G0MJW: they're great aren't they
[16:24] <jonsowman> which one do you have
[16:24] <G0MJW> Ah - Erm P
[16:24] <jonsowman> fsphil: i think my next thing to do with the rtl is making autotunning work
[16:24] <jonsowman> this is effort.
[16:25] <G0MJW> PROlectrix
[16:25] <jonsowman> i'm not used to all this exertion
[16:25] <jonsowman> G0MJW: oh cool
[16:25] <fsphil> lol
[16:26] <fsphil> I'm thinking another 43km. but this is a later launch, that may have an effect
[16:26] <craag> jonsowman: it would appear that overheating an RTL-SDR severly degrades it's performance..
[16:27] <jonsowman> oh dear
[16:27] <jonsowman> what happened?
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[16:27] <LazyLeopard> Oh, hre's that screen shot from ages back... http://imgur.com/tqm6u
[16:28] <jonsowman> that looks alright
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[16:28] <jonsowman> afternoon F5APQ
[16:28] <LazyLeopard> Yeah.
[16:28] <craag> Well since I put the 'insulation' on the SNR went down to the point where decodes were about 10%. Took the insulation off, frequencies are wobbling again but back to near 100% decode
[16:28] <jonsowman> did they drop immediately?
[16:28] <jonsowman> or as it heated up?
[16:28] <craag> no, took a minute or two.....
[16:28] <jonsowman> hmm
[16:29] <jonsowman> heat is the only sensible explanation really
[16:29] <jonsowman> it can't be getting /that/ hot
[16:29] <jonsowman> maybe the oscillator gets sad
[16:29] <F5APQ> afternoon jonsowman
[16:29] <fsphil> could be the cheap crystal
[16:29] <jonsowman> yeah
[16:29] <craag> yep, noise floor has also increased since it cooled down.
[16:29] <G0MJW> They can get hot. Wobbling was not a problem for me. but I did find HDSDR had trouble.
[16:30] <Matt_soton> watercool tbh
[16:30] <G0MJW> whereas the other program didn't.
[16:30] <jonsowman> can't see that going wrong at all :|
[16:30] <craag> Matt_soton: sounds ideal! lol
[16:30] <Matt_soton> get some mineral oil or whatever it is
[16:31] <G0MJW> Spend £1k on an efficient air conditioning unit and put it in that?
[16:32] <jonsowman> stick it in the fridge tbh
[16:32] <craag> I put a bit of tape over the IR sensor hole in the dongle case, nearly all of the freq wobble has disappeared. There must have been some cold draughts getting in and quickly cooling the xtal.
[16:33] <G0MJW> Sounds more like a power supply problem to me.
[16:34] <jonsowman> craag: if i blow into the air vent it drifts a little bit
[16:34] <jonsowman> but it's not serious and the AFC keeps up fine
[16:34] <craag> I was getting +- 50hz or so whenever the wind gusted. Wasn't a big deal but I decided to try to fix it ;)
[16:35] <jonsowman> is the dongle outside?
[16:35] <craag> yes, due to insufficient length of coax and over-sufficient length of usb extension.
[16:35] <jonsowman> ah okay
[16:35] <jonsowman> that is perhaps why
[16:37] <jonsowman> the XABEN signal just went really weird
[16:37] <jonsowman> just me?
[16:37] <fsphil> all good here
[16:37] <fsphil> although I can't hear it, waterfall looks fine
[16:38] <G0MJW> Altitude sickness. It is almost 40 now.
[16:38] <jonsowman> ah it was the radio
[16:38] <jonsowman> audio underrun
[16:39] <joph> anyone tried the dvb/dab stick with gnuradio on a raspberry pi or is the raspberry to slow for stuff like this?
[16:39] <LazyLeopard> Ok. Complete re-compile of dl-fldigi. No change.
[16:39] <LazyLeopard> Something stupid is going on in the decoding.
[16:40] <jonsowman> 40km :)
[16:40] <fsphil> joph: my initial go showed it too slow, but I believe it can be made to run a lot faster
[16:40] <jonsowman> were you running it with all the gui stuff fsphil?
[16:41] <fsphil> yea
[16:42] <fsphil> from what I can tell it was doing software floating point too
[16:42] <jonsowman> ah
[16:42] <jonsowman> does the pi do hfloat?
[16:42] <fsphil> it can
[16:42] <LazyLeopard> I'd at least expect a bunch of garbage. I'm not even getting much of that...
[16:42] <G0MJW> Surely a funcube dongle is more appropriate to a PI due to the lower sample rate?
[16:42] <jonsowman> fsphil: but you need to compile gnuradio with hardfloat support?
[16:42] <craag> The frequency wobble I get with local wind: http://imgur.com/PX8U3
[16:42] <jonsowman> G0MJW: pi + rtl = £40, FCD = £130 ish?
[16:43] <jonsowman> and you still need a computer for the fcd
[16:43] <fsphil> gnuradio has some arm assembly code optimisations, but it appears to be for the next arm processor up
[16:43] <jonsowman> that's pretty bad craag
[16:43] <jonsowman> fsphil: ah okay
[16:43] <jonsowman> so it's not doable? or just needs more work to do it?
[16:44] <jcoxon> eurus seems to have settled a little
[16:44] <fsphil> doable definitely
[16:44] <fsphil> just needs work
[16:44] <jonsowman> okay
[16:44] <jonsowman> well that's promising
[16:44] <fsphil> it may need some custom software
[16:44] <jonsowman> jcoxon: you chasing?
[16:44] <G0MJW> Where are you finding RTL for under £10? Word is out, Prices are risen.
[16:44] <fsphil> gnuradio might just be too heavy for it
[16:44] <jcoxon> jonsowman, nope
[16:45] <jonsowman> jcoxon: is steve chasing xaben?
[16:45] <jonsowman> G0MJW: okay, i paid £13 for mine
[16:45] <jcoxon> jonsowman, nope
[16:45] <jcoxon> not yet
[16:45] <jonsowman> okay jcoxon
[16:45] <jcoxon> depends on where its going to land
[16:45] <jonsowman> fsphil: yeah, but you could just use all the python libraries
[16:45] <craag> Could we run a headless gnuradio script? With as little high-bandwidth stuff as possible.
[16:45] <G0MJW> My PI is due in a couple of weeks. Should be interesting to try this.
[16:45] <jonsowman> craag: certainly
[16:45] <jcoxon> eurus is taking its time :-)
[16:46] <jcoxon> interesting how at 41.5km no one really cares now
[16:46] <fsphil> jonsowman: python might have too much overhead
[16:46] <jonsowman> craag: it's just a bunch of python libraries. open one of the .py files it creates in a text editor
[16:46] <jonsowman> fsphil: yeah that is true
[16:46] <jonsowman> maybe not though
[16:46] <jonsowman> needs testing :)
[16:46] <fsphil> totally
[16:46] <craag> jonsowman: Yeah, but most of the python libraries it uses are written in C++, so very little python overhead.
[16:46] <jonsowman> yeah
[16:46] <jonsowman> so hopefully it will run on a pi
[16:47] <craag> python is just used to 'stitch it together' - quote from their website i think.
[16:47] <fsphil> if anyone wants access to the pi give me a shout
[16:47] <jonsowman> i wouldn't be surprised if the GUI stuff was using quite a lot of cpu time
[16:47] <fsphil> I won't have much time to work on it for a while
[16:47] <fsphil> I suspect the gui is killing it yea
[16:47] <jonsowman> gnuradio is using 110% of CPU according to htop
[16:47] <jonsowman> on a 6 core 2.8Ghz desktop
[16:48] <jonsowman> not surprised the pi struggles
[16:48] <G0MJW> 42km
[16:48] <jonsowman> :)
[16:49] <jonsowman> go on xaben, another 2km
[16:49] <jonsowman> let's have another world record
[16:51] <SamSilver_> xaben acent rate is now down to 1.5 m/s
[16:51] <G0MJW> Ascent rate is dropping. Is it a floater?
[16:51] <SamSilver_> less than eurus
[16:51] <fsphil> could be near burst point
[16:52] <SamSilver_> EURUS @ 2.2M/S
[16:52] <SamSilver_> caps lock
[16:54] <SamSilver_> xaben looks like it is looking at canada
[16:55] <SamSilver_> payload weight of xaben?
[16:55] <fsphil> eurus is getting weaker at yorkshire
[16:55] <LazyLeopard> Ok. File under weird... I hide the dl-fldigi window underneath something else, and it gets a decode or two.
[16:56] <fsphil> LazyLeopard: turn the waterfall off
[16:56] <fsphil> it's where most of the cpu work goes
[16:56] <fsphil> gui work even
[16:58] <LazyLeopard> Ok. So something in the latest ubuntu is burning just that little bit ttoo much....
[16:58] <LazyLeopard> ...and this little old laptop can't cope.
[16:59] <LazyLeopard> Yey, with the previous version of ubuntu it was just fine....
[16:59] <LazyLeopard> Yet, even....
[16:59] <LazyLeopard> Ho hum.
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[17:00] <fsphil> xaben's definitely floating
[17:01] <fsphil> how long until sunset up there?
[17:01] <fsphil> not for a while I bet
[17:01] <G0MJW> I am slow. Just spotted the altitude graphic.
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[17:02] <jonsowman> fsphil: roughly half an hour after ground
[17:02] <fsphil> 22:30 ish then
[17:02] <fsphil> don't think it'll be up there that long
[17:03] <jonsowman> it's got a while to float
[17:03] <jonsowman> no probably not
[17:03] <SamSilver_> alti record in view before canada for xaben
[17:03] <fsphil> hopefully eurusssesses high power mode helps
[17:03] <fsphil> cause I don't think I'll be able to track it the way it is now
[17:03] <jonsowman> when does it switch?
[17:04] <jcoxon> fsphil, oh i'm finding it much better now
[17:04] <G0MJW> What's wrong with it?
[17:04] <fsphil> outside UK airspace I think
[17:04] <fsphil> good news jcoxon. what dial frequency? upu's receiver is barely registering it
[17:04] <jcoxon> 199.21
[17:04] <fsphil> yea spot on
[17:04] <fsphil> it's very faint, right in the noise
[17:04] <jonsowman> wonder why
[17:05] <jonsowman> Upu's setup is normally excellent
[17:05] <fsphil> indeed
[17:05] <fsphil> it's actually getting weaker
[17:05] <jonsowman> :\
[17:05] <fsphil> so near 43km for xaben
[17:06] <jonsowman> yeah
[17:06] <G0MJW> It is pretty good here. Perhaps it has an uneven azimuth pattern and he is in a null?
[17:06] <joph> G0MJW, i paid for mine a few months ago around 6¬
[17:08] <fsphil> yea, possibly the antenna has more gain downwards than to the horizon
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[17:10] <LazyLeopard> Erf. So, time to find and install a lightweight GUI in place of whatever Ubuntu's gone for... :/
[17:11] <jcoxon> LazyLeopard, i'm using ubuntu with openbox
[17:11] <jcoxon> on an old laptop
[17:11] <craag> LazyLeopard: Try lubuntu
[17:11] <craag> ubuntu with lxde
[17:11] <LazyLeopard> How do you get rid of Unity?
[17:11] <jcoxon> i did a server install
[17:11] <LazyLeopard> Ah. Ok.
[17:12] <jcoxon> or a non-gui one
[17:12] <jcoxon> can't remember
[17:12] <craag> Lubuntu is available as a seperate install, just installs lxde desktop instead of unity.
[17:12] <craag> I used it on my laptops before I switched to Arch.
[17:14] <craag> 43km xaben!
[17:14] <jonsowman> i've switched to eurus since it had fewer trackers
[17:15] <G0MJW> For many years I used teh VT100 gui
[17:15] <craag> Still no sign of eurus from here in southampton.
[17:16] <jonsowman> you're inside the green circle
[17:16] <jonsowman> surprised you can't see it
[17:16] <G0MJW> So am I - it is really moving the s-meter here.
[17:17] <jonsowman> 434.202 dial here
[17:17] <G0MJW> S/N 11dB.
[17:17] <jonsowman> i say dial
[17:17] <jonsowman> it's a text box
[17:17] <G0MJW> 434.200 upper tone 1200Hz
[17:18] <LazyLeopard> I figure I'll probably do a wipe and re-install... unless there's an easy "throw the carp away" option....
[17:18] <fsphil> heading home, yay
[17:18] <jonsowman> LazyLeopard: nuke it from orbit
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[17:18] <LazyLeopard> Have to remember how to burn CDs... ;)
[17:19] <LazyLeopard> Havn't burned one in ages...
[17:19] <G0MJW> XABEN is creeping up there.
[17:19] <jonsowman> i can see both payloads on the sdr waterfall
[17:19] <jonsowman> i should make a multiple demodulator
[17:20] <jcoxon> i'm not in a null
[17:22] <gonzo_> just dropping in to retune occasionally
[17:22] <gonzo_> and just seen the new record attempt
[17:23] <gonzo_> is xaben floating?
[17:23] <jonsowman> gonzo_: yeah
[17:23] <jonsowman> pretty much
[17:23] <jonsowman> it's gradually getting higher
[17:23] <gonzo_> can hear eurus but weak and a but sick counding
[17:23] <gonzo_> s
[17:23] <jonsowman> 434.202 USB for eurus
[17:24] <G0MJW> You are on the edge jules.
[17:24] <gonzo_> seems to be a bit rough modulation
[17:24] <gonzo_> rgr mike
[17:24] <G0MJW> I would say it is very clean. Perhaps some QRM?
[17:24] <gonzo_> in the middle of bbq so only here part time
[17:25] <jonsowman> fsphil: ubuntu says sunset 21.03 in cam
[17:25] <G0MJW> Say hello to John
[17:26] <gonzo_> will do. he's down this way next weekend
[17:26] <G0MJW> don't forget the round table.
[17:26] <G0MJW> 10th June.
[17:27] <gonzo_> yep, tis on the calander
[17:28] <gonzo_> back in a bit
[17:29] <G0MJW> Not another one!
[17:31] <jcoxon> wow managed a string
[17:31] <G0MJW> M6JCX?
[17:32] <jcoxon> yup
[17:32] <jcoxon> i'm in a null
[17:32] <jonsowman> distance: 5000km
[17:32] <jonsowman> hmmmm
[17:34] <G0MJW> 43383...
[17:35] <fsphil> jonsowman: still a good while away yet
[17:35] <jonsowman> yeah
[17:36] <G0MJW> This Eurus is very slow going up. Is that deliberte ?
[17:37] <fsphil> right, so still tracking xaben here in cookstown. upu still unable to decode eurus
[17:38] <jcoxon> G0MJW, oh yes
[17:38] <jcoxon> it'll properly float
[17:38] <jcoxon> as in meant to
[17:38] <fsphil> first time there's been two floaters in the air?
[17:39] <junderwood_M0JCU> going down?
[17:39] <junderwood_M0JCU> Yup
[17:40] <fsphil> yea
[17:40] <G0MJW> Rather quickly
[17:40] <fsphil> lol
[17:41] <fsphil> that's some drift
[17:41] <G0MJW> 66m/s - That is fast
[17:41] <junderwood_M0JCU> forced convection at Mach 0.25
[17:42] <fsphil> decoding rather well considering it's descending
[17:42] <G0MJW> 237kph
[17:43] <junderwood_M0JCU> I'm glad the autotune is working now! Thanks jonsowman
[17:43] <Laurenceb_> not enough gas
[17:43] <Laurenceb_> "only" got third place
[17:43] <G0MJW> Do you think we can assume it has burst?
[17:43] <jonsowman> junderwood_M0JCU: it'll be even better soon :) fsphil is working on it aiui
[17:43] <Laurenceb_> lol
[17:43] <fsphil> am indeed :)
[17:43] <fsphil> well, it's on my list ;)
[17:44] <jonsowman> heh
[17:44] <fsphil> eurus getting a bit stronger now I think
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[17:45] <fsphil> qrm
[17:46] <fsphil> switching upu's radio to xaben
[17:50] <jonsowman> xaben coming down smack in the middle of Northampton
[17:54] <fsphil> brb
[17:57] <craag> Can someone give me a dial freq for eurus?
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[17:57] <G0MJW> 432200
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[17:57] <G0MJW> 434200 sorry
[17:57] <craag> Cheers
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[18:01] <craag> I can still see xaben on the waterfall, but not a speck of eurus.
[18:02] <mauresmo1> Michelle Obama is advised to read The Straight Up Truth about the Down Low by Joy Marie
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[18:02] <Lunar_Lander> YES!
[18:02] <G0MJW> Better return to XABEN before it reaches the ground. Plenty of EURUS trackers.
[18:03] <Lunar_Lander> RocketBoy made it!
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[18:06] <jonsowman> back to eurus
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[18:11] <craag> I don't get this. I got a successful decode off xaben at 6374m, but can't see a hint of eurus on the waterfall.
[18:12] <jonsowman> hmm
[18:13] <G0MJW> XABEN drifting very fast LF
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[18:16] <G0MJW> 2Landing" Very cool
[18:17] <cuddykid> ping daveake
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[18:19] <G0MJW> Lost it at 211m
[18:19] <Dutch-Mill> Afternoon / evening Y'all what's EURUS frequency?
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[18:22] <r2x0t> nice xaben landing.... on radioactive field
[18:22] <r2x0t> check the sat map
[18:22] <G0MJW> Back to EURUS
[18:23] <G0MJW> I don't think it is radioactive, just a swamp
[18:23] <r2x0t> just have weird colors on satellite photo
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[18:24] <fsphil> xaben on the ground, nice
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> r2x0t, XD!
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> hello DO1SEC
[18:25] <fsphil> I'm starting to see eurus in cookstown, but only just
[18:25] <jcoxon> just relocating
[18:25] <jcoxon> bbiab
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[18:26] <fsphil> I might need to get out the yagis later
[18:26] <fsphil> brb again
[18:29] <JFS1> Based on the colours I reckon Xaben is in a field growing linseed oil
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[18:38] <jcoxon> back
[18:39] <Lunar_Lander> welcome back
[18:41] <jcoxon> will setup my yagi in a bit
[18:41] <jcoxon> hows is eurus' signal?
[18:41] <jcoxon> managable?
[18:44] <jcoxon> hmmm needs to start floating asap
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[18:48] <Lunar_Lander> down to 1.8 m/s
[18:49] <jcoxon> haha
[18:49] <jcoxon> here we go
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[18:50] <griffonbot> @jamescoxon: Eurus high alt balloon looks like its about to start floating - if so will need listeners over in Wales! #ukhas 434.200Mhz RTTY USB [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/206457370832932864]
[18:51] <jonsowman> switched back to the FT-817
[18:51] <jonsowman> can't live without autotune :P
[18:52] <jcoxon> haha
[18:52] <jcoxon> is it drifting?
[18:52] <jonsowman> not as much now
[18:52] <cuddykid> "houston we are entering a float"
[18:52] <jonsowman> the sdr works excellently though
[18:52] <jonsowman> very pleased
[18:53] <r2x0t> eurus is on a good way to 44km
[18:53] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[18:53] <r2x0t> err 35km
[18:54] <r2x0t> for now :)
[18:54] <jcoxon> r2x0t, i hope not
[18:54] <jcoxon> its too high already!
[18:55] <jcoxon> certainly slowing down
[18:55] <jcoxon> nice battery voltage
[18:55] <r2x0t> is eurus planned floater?
[18:55] <jcoxon> r2x0t, yeah
[18:55] <r2x0t> any prediction of track?
[18:55] <griffonbot> @PD3EM: RT @jamescoxon: Eurus high alt balloon looks like its about to start floating - if so will need listeners over in Wales! #ukhas 434.200M ... [http://twitter.com/PD3EM/status/206458608425250818]
[18:56] <jcoxon> west
[18:56] <jcoxon> directly west
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[19:04] <fsphil> back
[19:05] <fsphil> weird, eurus is stronger here than yorkshire
[19:05] <jonsowman> $$MURU
[19:05] <jonsowman> :\
[19:08] <fsphil> it's going north?
[19:08] <fsphil> that's unexpected
[19:11] <fsphil> frequency rising quickly
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> at least we have the better entertainment than the ESC
[19:13] <jcoxon> haha
[19:13] <Lunar_Lander> as that Engelbert guy is singing for you at the moment
[19:13] <fsphil> ah, I forgot about that
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[19:14] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[19:15] <jcoxon> i'm pleased with this float
[19:15] <jcoxon> a little too high
[19:16] <r2x0t> does it have any other tracking or just 434MHz ?
[19:16] <jcoxon> r2x0t, this one just has 434
[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[19:16] <jcoxon> its the first test flight
[19:16] <r2x0t> hmm http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=38bacd587fb1007e564178c8213d01880090bb35
[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon, what about the going north?
[19:16] <jcoxon> yeah a swing a bit north is okay
[19:17] <jcoxon> r2x0t, yeah thats about right
[19:17] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[19:17] <jcoxon> batteries should last 70+ hours
[19:17] <r2x0t> not many receivers up there
[19:17] <jcoxon> but one step at a time, lets get a nice established float
[19:17] <jcoxon> haha
[19:17] <fsphil> will keep it in tracking range longer
[19:17] <jcoxon> indeed
[19:17] <r2x0t> we need fleet of tracking boats
[19:18] <craag> What happens when it leaves UK airspace, does it just bump the power up to 100mW?
[19:18] <jcoxon> craag, it'll alternate 20 strings at 10mW and then 100mW
[19:18] <craag> Ah cool.
[19:18] <fsphil> good idea
[19:18] <jcoxon> i had to make some last min changes to that bit
[19:18] <jcoxon> so it might not work as planned
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[19:19] <fsphil> frequency going up again
[19:19] <fsphil> every once in a while I get a bit of good text
[19:20] <fsphil> it's definitely the oddest signal I've seen
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[19:20] <jcoxon> its really good with my yagi right now
[19:20] <fsphil> I can't get my yagi high enough
[19:20] <fsphil> too many buildings in the way
[19:21] <fsphil> I've got a clear view to the west though, so I can setup a yagi in the front room
[19:21] <jcoxon> :-)
[19:21] <fsphil> hopefully I need to use it :)
[19:22] <fsphil> although I might be asleep by then
[19:22] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:22] <jcoxon> might be tomorrow
[19:22] <fsphil> ooh -- this is a good opportunity for someone to spot it visually
[19:22] <fsphil> when the sun sets on the ground
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[19:25] <jcoxon> the french station might get a range record (despite the poor quality of signal)
[19:30] <Lunar_Lander> first half hour of float went well
[19:31] <fsphil> getting really bad qrm on 434.200
[19:32] <G0MJW> Been away - had drifted off channel
[19:34] <jcoxon> :-)
[19:34] <jcoxon> re-positioned yagi
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[19:39] <jcoxon> steve is doing well
[19:40] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[19:42] <jcoxon> it really is heading north
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[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> damn
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[19:43] <r2x0t> very interesting, as all GFS predictions show it should go straight west
[19:44] <jcoxon> but the data at this altitude is quite minimal
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[19:46] <r2x0t> at 100mb you can see some opposite jet stream above GB: http://nstar.org/GFS/100mb/100mb.012.png
[19:47] <r2x0t> maybe it moved bit south and also covers higher altitudes
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[19:50] <jcoxon> perhaps
[19:50] <jcoxon> http://nstar.org/GFS/10mb/10mb.012.png
[19:51] <jcoxon> very strang
[19:51] <fsphil> indeed
[19:51] <jcoxon> r2x0t, this is partially why we are doing this flight - to see if those maps are useful
[19:51] <jcoxon> its picked up speed
[19:52] <fsphil> we may need to float lower
[19:52] <jcoxon> indeed
[19:52] <jcoxon> steve has made good progress with the valve
[19:52] <jcoxon> might be ready in 1 week
[19:53] <fsphil> I'll hopefully have an aprs payload ready for then too
[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL Austrian TV comments on the ESC
[19:53] <jcoxon> great
[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> and like they have the greatest comedy
[19:53] <jcoxon> i've got my radios to play ith
[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[19:53] <fsphil> signal improving in yorkshire, unsurprisingly :)
[19:53] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander, in the UK the commentator gets drunk
[19:54] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[19:54] <griffonbot> @jamescoxon: Eurus high alt balloon floating at 35km, has turned north (against predictions) #ukhas - the more trackers the better USB 434.200 [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/206473451228237824]
[19:54] <fsphil> wogan was always very good at it
[19:55] <jcoxon> yes
[19:55] <jcoxon> G8KNN-Jon, thanks for the tracking
[19:55] <jcoxon> you've been on it since the start!
[19:55] <fsphil> decode from yorkshire
[19:55] <daveake> Evening all. Well done rocketboy :). I'll get set up now.
[19:55] <Lunar_Lander> hi daveake
[19:55] <fsphil> it fades so quickly though
[19:55] <fsphil> got a decode, then it's just a trace on the waterfall
[19:56] <fsphil> I wonder if the atmosphere is up to something
[19:56] <jcoxon> i get that
[19:56] <jcoxon> a few great strings then nothing
[19:56] <jcoxon> it doesn't help that our dogs keep playing with the yagi
[19:56] <fsphil> lol
[19:57] <Lunar_Lander> ohh
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[19:57] <fsphil> I was going to email some clubs in the south of ireland but I guess I don't need to now
[19:58] <fsphil> it's scottish stations we need :)
[19:58] <cuddykid> daveake: Just a quick note/question: do you know Chris Hillcox? Basically he has a website where he writes up about balloon launches (he's covered mine a few times). He got in contact with me this morn asking if I knew your email address as he's been trying to get in touch - if you're happy for him to contact you, could you send PM me your email and I'll send it onto him :) cheers :D
[20:04] <daveake> cuddykid Yes, he contacted me via my blog before. I'll email him see what he wants.
[20:05] <cuddykid> daveake: :)
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[20:05] <daveake> Well I plugged my yagi in can't hear anything. This is on 434.2, correct?
[20:05] <junderwood_M0JCU> 434.199
[20:05] <fsphil> 434.199 atm
[20:05] <daveake> tvm both
[20:06] <daveake> I'll get the mast up then
[20:07] <fsphil> there's annoying carriers every 1000hz around this frequency
[20:07] <fsphil> probably coming from something in the house
[20:08] <jonsowman> yeah it's really noisy on the apex tracker in sutton
[20:08] <jonsowman> lots of carriers all over the place
[20:09] <pjm__> i can just about hear the rtty here on poole on 434199
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[20:10] <fsphil> better walk the mutt
[20:11] <fsphil> there's a chance this will head west when the sun sets, if it drops down
[20:12] <Darkside> morning guys..
[20:12] <Darkside> i see eurus is still up
[20:12] <Darkside> we're launching in 2 hours >_>
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[20:13] <jonsowman> sunset at altitude shortly
[20:13] <Darkside> oh god its going to be going teh whole time
[20:13] <jcoxon> Darkside, you could use teh direct link
[20:13] <jonsowman> sun has set on the ground here
[20:13] <jonsowman> im roughly guessing half an hour until eurus loses sunlight
[20:14] <jcoxon> Darkside, http://spacenear.us/tracker/index.php?filter=horus or something like that
[20:14] <Darkside> hrmm
[20:15] <Darkside> can i change the text? Will leave something about EURUS in there
[20:15] <jcoxon> oh yeah
[20:15] <jcoxon> get rid of it
[20:15] <jcoxon> we can clear everything but eurs
[20:15] <jcoxon> eurus
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[20:18] <Darkside> 434.3?
[20:18] <jonsowman> .2
[20:18] <jonsowman> nominally
[20:18] <Darkside> ok
[20:18] <Darkside> fixed
[20:19] <Darkside> also grats to Rocketboy
[20:20] <Darkside> you guys are filling up teh record lists
[20:20] <jcoxon> Darkside, when steve recovers we can clear xaben as well
[20:22] <Darkside> ok
[20:23] <griffonbot> Received email: James Coxon "[UKHAS] Re: Eurus 1 Launch 26/5/12 1600 BST (GMT+1)"
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL the austrian commentary is still hilarious
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[20:26] <cuddykid> 2nd time in a week that I may get an overhead pass
[20:26] <Darkside> so these have all been hydrogen launches, right?
[20:27] <Laurenceb_> who is chasing EURUS?
[20:27] <Laurenceb_> sunset soon
[20:30] <Darkside> jonsowman: jcoxon have any of the recent record launches *not* been hydrogen
[20:30] <jonsowman> not afaik
[20:30] <Darkside> damn
[20:30] <jonsowman> though also they are coincidentally from a new batch of balloons
[20:31] <jonsowman> i think that's correct but should be checked with the record holders
[20:31] <Darkside> k
[20:31] Action: Laurenceb_ wonders if you could treat the balloons somehow
[20:31] <zamabe> teflon coating
[20:32] <Laurenceb_> G8KHW chase is chasing EURUS?
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[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> Germany sings!"
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[20:32] <jdtanner> Evening all
[20:33] <jonsowman> evening
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[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> hello Elmar_PD3EM F6AGV
[20:33] <Elmar_PD3EM> hello LL and all
[20:33] <jdtanner> I see we've got a floater so to speak
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL austrian TV does a hilarious commentary on the ESC Elmar_PD3EM
[20:33] <r2x0t> watching chase cars in streetview would be cool
[20:34] <Darkside> haha yes
[20:34] <Elmar_PD3EM> have been listening for xaben & eurus..... but nill here for a few hrs
[20:35] <Elmar_PD3EM> eurus is floating nice jcoxon !!
[20:35] <jdtanner> I might fire up my FT790 in a bit and see if I can hear anything. It might end up in the Peaks :D
[20:35] <Elmar_PD3EM> Lunar_Lander: didn't switch the tv on yet
[20:35] <jcoxon> Elmar_PD3EM, yeah but where is it going!
[20:35] <jcoxon> this wasn't in the plan
[20:35] <jcoxon> it was meant to keep going west
[20:36] <Elmar_PD3EM> jcoxon: yes. strange move to the north...
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> Elmar_PD3EM, ah
[20:36] <jdtanner> It must have taste :)
[20:38] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL
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[20:38] <jdtanner> Didn't there used to be a predicted flight path on the tracker?
[20:39] <jcoxon> there is but it doesn't help here
[20:39] <r2x0t> prediction looks like this: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=38bacd587fb1007e564178c8213d01880090bb35
[20:39] <cuddykid> heading right for me :D
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[20:39] <r2x0t> but it's not sticking to it :)
[20:39] <jdtanner> lols
[20:39] <jdtanner> :)
[20:39] <cuddykid> never seen it so far out before - odd
[20:40] <jdtanner> It is about to head over bandit country&they might start taking pot shots at it.
[20:40] <r2x0t> if it continues going north, it may turn to the east
[20:40] <daveake> Well, I tried .... can see the carrier but next to nothing when it's sending data. Not a hint of a decode. Tried 2 aerials and 2 receivers.
[20:40] <jcoxon> daveake, it has strange nulls
[20:40] <daveake> Must be in a black hole he for that direction
[20:40] <jcoxon> i either have it great or nothing at all
[20:40] <jcoxon> thanks for trying!
[20:40] <r2x0t> how you trigger the higher power?
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[20:40] <daveake> np
[20:40] <r2x0t> GPS coords?
[20:41] <cuddykid> r2x0t: yeah, I think so
[20:41] <jcoxon> r2x0t, when it gets past -6 lon
[20:41] <r2x0t> heh, that may never happen now
[20:41] <jcoxon> r2x0t, it might descend as it cools a bit
[20:41] <jcoxon> and it'll then go west again
[20:41] <r2x0t> next time you need complete boundary box for GB
[20:41] <daveake> I see a carrier for a few seconds. Nice and clear, thin line. Then when that stops I can just about make out something in the noise at that freq and at -470hz
[20:41] <Elmar_PD3EM> predictions must have been wrong... High pressure center must be much more to the east
[20:41] <jcoxon> battery voltage is good
[20:42] <jcoxon> it'll cut out at 510
[20:42] <r2x0t> ...or just say f'k it, and fly 100mW from start
[20:42] <number10> I should have taken my yagi with me to the lakes
[20:42] <jcoxon> best not upset the authorties
[20:42] <daveake> number10 Get back to your hols :D
[20:42] <number10> lol
[20:42] <jcoxon> might be able to track on globaltuners
[20:43] <jcoxon> signal super strong for me now
[20:44] <daveake> Darkside Highest He in the table is Buzz5
[20:44] <r2x0t> what's with KF4ZTI and WB8ELK ? just testing?
[20:45] <jcoxon> i think KF4ZTI did fly
[20:46] <jcoxon> refresh to clear them
[20:47] <jdtanner> Is the freq still 434.2?
[20:47] <Laurenceb_> are you going to chase it?
[20:48] <Laurenceb_> heading right for me :P
[20:48] <cuddykid> Laurenceb_: lets scramble the chase car haha
[20:48] <jdtanner> Me? I could go after it but I'd need to decide now as I'm 3/4 way through a very nice Thornbridge Weisbeir
[20:48] <jdtanner> :P
[20:49] <jdtanner> Although, I can't hear a thing so far
[20:49] <cuddykid> nice
[20:49] <jdtanner> It is called Versa if anyone is interested ;)
[20:50] <Elmar_PD3EM> jcoxon: if it keeps floating, you're sending it over to me again!! http://imgur.com/JbgUc
[20:50] <fsphil> signal oddly weak at upu's still
[20:50] <daveake> Darkside / jonsowman Believe the latest 3 Xabens and my latest 2 Buzz launches all from the same, new batch
[20:50] <fsphil> despite being quite close now
[20:50] <jonsowman> daveake: all H2?
[20:50] <daveake> Buzz5 was He
[20:50] <jonsowman> ah
[20:50] <jonsowman> there you go daveake
[20:50] <jonsowman> oops
[20:50] <jonsowman> * Darkside
[20:51] <daveake> Believe that's the highest He flight
[20:51] <daveake> Well, if Upu's struggling then there's no hope for mere mortals :D
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[20:52] <jcoxon> its an unsual signal
[20:52] <jcoxon> it seems to have nulls
[20:52] <jcoxon> that slowly rotate
[20:52] <fsphil> what was the antenna?
[20:52] <jcoxon> i've got a great signal right now
[20:52] <jcoxon> its a 1/4 wave with 2 radials
[20:52] <daveake> 1/4 wave with 4 ground plane wires?
[20:52] <daveake> Ah
[20:52] <daveake> I guess that will have nulls then
[20:52] <fsphil> right now the signal has all but gone
[20:53] <fsphil> I can only see the idle bit on the waterfall
[20:53] <jcoxon> it'll come back
[20:53] <daveake> Might be ok for me now then :-) ... I'll pop upstairs and check
[20:53] <jcoxon> i wonder if there is a degree of skip
[20:53] <fsphil> my home station has it on the waterfall
[20:53] <fsphil> and it's back at yorkshire now
[20:53] <jcoxon> considering those who have it are quire far away
[20:54] <jdtanner> Anyone got a frequency?
[20:54] <jcoxon> 434.19870
[20:54] <jcoxon> there is a hint of turning west
[20:54] <G0MJW> Just retuned and tweeked the antenna
[20:55] <jdtanner> cheers
[20:55] <cuddykid> autopilot was just taking it on a detour around Birmingham :D
[20:55] <fsphil> wish I had a yagi and motor mount setup
[20:56] <daveake> No luck. I think it's not a good direction from here
[20:56] <jcoxon> cuddykid, exactly :-)
[20:56] <Laurenceb_> eek east midland airport
[20:56] <fsphil> heading straight for me atm
[20:56] <Laurenceb_> me too
[20:56] <jcoxon> i think its got low enough to start going west again
[20:56] <Laurenceb_> albeit much closer
[20:57] <fsphil> I was hoping to sleep tonight. ah well :)
[20:57] <jcoxon> fsphil, your shift is later
[20:57] <jcoxon> :-p
[20:57] <fsphil> indeed. maybe I should get a nap now
[20:57] <fsphil> a hab nap
[20:58] <fsphil> annoyingly I have work in the morning
[20:58] <jcoxon> getting a night time gentle descent
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[21:05] <jcoxon> looks like steve has got XABEN's signal
[21:05] <G0MJW> Time for bed I think. By tomorrow it might have got as far as Manchester.
[21:05] <jcoxon> the map has its final landing site
[21:05] <jcoxon> thanks G0MJW!
[21:06] <fsphil> g'nite G0MJW
[21:06] <fsphil> lets hope there's no tree or landowner involved this time
[21:06] <G0MJW> Goodnight all. I will leave it running
[21:07] <Laurenceb_> directly over runway
[21:07] <cuddykid> :)
[21:07] <jcoxon> a little bit high to worry them
[21:09] <fsphil> wonder if they're aware of it
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[21:09] <jcoxon> fading for me
[21:10] <jcoxon> and back
[21:10] <fsphil> definitely a null -- when it faded for you it got stronger here and yorkshire
[21:11] <jcoxon> must be spinning so slowly
[21:11] <jonsowman> jcoxon: there's no float control is there? just underfilled?
[21:11] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Took insufficient details before nuking my laptop... Somewhere the USB detection vanished...
[21:11] <jcoxon> yup
[21:11] <jcoxon> jonsowman, the next flight might have a controlled valve
[21:12] <priyesh> has anyone got a dial freq?
[21:12] <fsphil> 434.198.7
[21:12] <priyesh> thanks
[21:12] <jcoxon> f6agv is a stalwart
[21:12] <jcoxon> never misses a beat
[21:12] <daveake> nope
[21:13] <Lunar_Lander> do you think that EURUS will float at least till tomorrow?
[21:14] <jcoxon> fade here
[21:14] <jcoxon> oh its back
[21:14] <fsphil> there must be some wind, that's keeping it facing one direction
[21:14] <fsphil> the signal seems to have been facing south most of the flight
[21:15] <Elmar_PD3EM> what kind of antenna is on eurus?
[21:16] <fsphil> actually I wonder if this is high enough for a yagi in the attic
[21:16] <fsphil> Elmar_PD3EM: 1/4 wave vertical
[21:16] <fsphil> 2 ground planes
[21:17] <Elmar_PD3EM> on the side instead of at the bottom?
[21:17] <fsphil> bottom afaik
[21:17] <jcoxon> xaben recovered
[21:17] <fsphil> sweet
[21:17] <jdtanner> Just about got you up here in the Peaks
[21:17] <daveake> :D
[21:18] <jcoxon> it might be the the parachute
[21:18] <jcoxon> acting like a sail?
[21:18] <fsphil> possibly
[21:18] <fsphil> I've seen that happen on mine
[21:18] <fsphil> almost no signal here now
[21:19] <fsphil> that's so weird
[21:20] <jcoxon> okay i'm clearing xaben
[21:21] <fsphil> going to setup the yagi
[21:21] <priyesh> getting solid decodes from apex now
[21:22] <jcoxon> interesting prediction
[21:22] <Lunar_Lander> why did you clear XABEN?
[21:22] <priyesh> i spoke too soon
[21:22] <jcoxon> as we've got lots of flights to come
[21:22] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander, i'ev screenshotted it, and all teh data is saved
[21:22] <Lunar_Lander> good
[21:22] <jcoxon> all data is saved in habitat
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[21:26] <jcoxon> fading for me
[21:26] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:26] <jcoxon> jdtanner, you must be able to hear it
[21:27] <jdtanner> Trying very hard
[21:28] <fsphil> 434.198.710 USB
[21:28] <fsphil> signal is at +1108Hz
[21:29] <jdtanner> I can hear it&but it is very faint
[21:29] <jcoxon> what antenna do you have?
[21:29] <jdtanner> I'm inside&and my walls are 3ft thick of solid stone
[21:29] <jcoxon> get by a window!
[21:29] <jcoxon> 434 will go through windows
[21:29] <jdtanner> I am&but it is a rubbish rubber ducky
[21:29] <jcoxon> hehe
[21:31] <jdtanner> It would help if I'd selected the line in! I've been trying to decode Eurovision!!! :D
[21:31] <priyesh> lol
[21:31] <jcoxon> haha
[21:31] <jdtanner> Just about see it in the waterfall
[21:31] <jonsowman> hahaha
[21:31] <cuddykid> lol
[21:31] <jonsowman> there's no useful information content in that, believe me
[21:31] <jdtanner> I thought it looked sh#t
[21:32] <cuddykid> maybe Jedward will rtty
[21:32] <daveake> jdtanner Try Eurusvision
[21:32] <cuddykid> one high, one low
[21:32] <jdtanner> lol
[21:32] <fsphil> daveake, nul points
[21:32] <daveake> :D
[21:32] <priyesh> :|
[21:33] <fsphil> I can't find my bnc to pl259 thingy
[21:34] <Laurenceb_> next on eurusvision: the RTTYs with their song "gps position"
[21:34] <fsphil> lol
[21:35] <fsphil> wow, suddenly a very string signal in upuland
[21:35] <jcoxon> fsphil, is this the first flight that actually might come near you?
[21:35] <jcoxon> (that you haven't launched yourself!)
[21:36] <fsphil> jcoxon: other than my own yep!
[21:36] <Lunar_Lander> XD
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[21:38] <jdtanner> I've swapped out my aerial and it appears to be worse :P
[21:38] <jcoxon> haha
[21:38] <jdtanner> Should have thought twice about that beer
[21:39] <jcoxon> nah
[21:42] <jdtanner> I've put the aerial outside and it is still rubbish&too much interference from the houses nearby I think
[21:42] <jcoxon> oh well, thanks for trying
[21:42] <jdtanner> Ah. there you go
[21:42] <jcoxon> you may find it gets better once it goes past
[21:42] <jdtanner> It should be updating now
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> who is this person from British TV? http://s.gullipics.com/image/x/0/h/5ztp12-j74v3q-x4yf/Bildschirmfotovom20120526234104.png
[21:45] <jcoxon> scot mills - he is a DJ on Radio 1
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> ah thanks
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[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> the austrians thought he is a sports host
[21:45] <jonsowman> 5.5161290295 V
[21:46] <jcoxon> we've added a filter
[21:46] <priyesh> jonsowman: i've added a filter to scale to the voltage.. but don't know if there's a way to round
[21:46] <jonsowman> where's the filter?
[21:46] <priyesh> in the flight doc
[21:46] <jonsowman> hmm
[21:46] <jonsowman> dunno
[21:47] <jonsowman> just tell everyone it's a 1024 bit ADC with amazing filtering
[21:47] <jonsowman> and therefore the precision is justified
[21:47] <priyesh> infinite precision :P
[21:47] <jonsowman> hmm
[21:47] <jonsowman> it's a /very/ good ADC
[21:47] <jcoxon> the best
[21:47] <priyesh> that is very impressive
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[21:55] <Laurenceb_> its curving towards me
[21:55] Action: Laurenceb_ is currently a few hundered m away :P
[21:55] <Laurenceb_> at ground level
[21:57] Action: Laurenceb_ gets out laser
[22:00] <daveake> I need to upgrade my laser
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[22:03] <fsphil> yagi setup in the attic, pointing east. no signal
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[22:03] <fsphil> getting partial decodes through the colinear
[22:03] <daveake> Next to nothing here. I think I shall henceforth name my aerial Englebert
[22:04] <fsphil> hah
[22:04] <Elmar_PD3EM> lol
[22:04] <Elmar_PD3EM> so 8 points for your antenna ;-)
[22:04] <jdtanner> blooming eck&still can only just hear it
[22:05] <daveake> My next tracker will start off by transmitting "Please release me, let me go"
[22:05] <daveake> It's all out fault for trying to coax him out of retirement
[22:06] Action: daveake collects coat
[22:06] <fsphil> that's so bad it hertz
[22:08] <griffonbot> @vk5fsck: looks like Horus 26 is up and away #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/vk5fsck/status/206507231389290496]
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[22:11] <jdtanner> $$EURUS,1434,22:11:07,530720234,-17482417,34194,11,3,842,6,4*0BBE but bad checksum
[22:12] <jdtanner> a good one finally
[22:14] <jcoxon> hooray
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[22:21] <jdtanner> still really faint though
[22:21] <jdtanner> probably as i'm in a dip
[22:22] <jcoxon> it seems to radiate better south
[22:23] <griffonbot> @vk5fsck: freshly brewed coffee and balloon tracking what can be better for a cold winters morning #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/vk5fsck/status/206510837089845249]
[22:23] <jdtanner> i'm just the other side of a hill
[22:23] <jdtanner> might pick up as it swings around
[22:24] <gonzo_> been very constant signals here for hours
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[22:25] <fsphil> excellent signal with upuradio, getting partial decodes here
[22:25] <fsphil> heading more west than before
[22:26] <fsphil> looks like it might head south of me
[22:28] <jcoxon> yeah
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[22:30] <Upuiphone> evening
[22:30] <Upuiphone> eurus still up ?
[22:30] <daveake> yup
[22:30] <jcoxon> yup
[22:31] <Elmar_PD3EM> evening Upuiphone
[22:31] <Upuiphone> evening
[22:31] <daveake> Over the Peak District
[22:31] <Upuiphone> awesome
[22:31] <Upuiphone> spacenear doesnt open on iphone with that many points on it
[22:32] <Upuiphone> fsphil, still recieving it on my rig ?
[22:32] <daveake> I couldn't get it to load fully on Android earlier, with just a 2G signal
[22:32] <daveake> He is
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[22:32] <Upuiphone> cool
[22:33] <fsphil> longer than usual pause there
[22:33] <fsphil> Upuiphone: totally
[22:33] <Upuiphone> well will take over if its still up tommorrow evening
[22:33] <jcoxon> oh every 100 strings it resends the gps commands
[22:33] <Upuiphone> great stuff
[22:33] <fsphil> envious of your lack of QRM :)
[22:34] <Upuiphone> 434.200 ?
[22:34] <fsphil> yea
[22:34] <fsphil> it's silent apart from the payload
[22:34] <Upuiphone> yeah its quiet
[22:34] <fsphil> mine's covered in carriers
[22:34] <daveake> here it's silent including the paylod
[22:34] <daveake> a
[22:34] <fsphil> lol
[22:34] <fsphil> I'm getting most of the string here now
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[22:34] <Upuiphone> cheers for running it whilst im away
[22:34] <fsphil> just the odd bad character
[22:35] <MIchael_VK5ZEA> Hi guys!
[22:35] <Upuiphone> whats irs altituude ?
[22:35] <fsphil> 33997m
[22:35] <fsphil> down from 34km ish
[22:35] <fsphil> 35km even
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[22:35] <fsphil> hiya MIchael_VK5ZEA
[22:35] <daveake> Xaben did well earlier, and has been recovered
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[22:37] <MIchael_VK5ZEA> I've come to my favourite Horus tracking location and have left my audio cable behind... no telemetry decode from me. dang it!
[22:37] <daveake> Upu's iphone doesn't have woowoo
[22:37] <Upuiphone> meh
[22:37] <fsphil> it does not
[22:37] <fsphil> lol
[22:37] <daveake> or perhaps it does
[22:37] <Upuiphone> not it doesnt
[22:37] <fsphil> yes you also tracked xaben today Upuiphone, down to about 2km
[22:37] <daveake> Xaben got #3 alt position
[22:37] <Upuiphone> anyway best go thanks fsphil back tommorrow
[22:37] <daveake> bb
[22:37] <fsphil> have fun!
[22:37] <fsphil> got a weak signal on the yagi
[22:37] <jcoxon> jdtanner, do you find its better now that its gone past you?
[22:37] <fsphil> if only the telescopic pole was longer
[22:38] <Upuiphone> did steve exceed his existing record btw ?
[22:38] <fsphil> nope
[22:38] <Upuiphone> ok
[22:38] <fsphil> he got to 43412m
[22:38] <Upuiphone> lol
[22:38] <fsphil> not far away
[22:38] <daveake> Puts him 3rd
[22:39] <daveake> Doesn't push me down one :)
[22:39] <fsphil> 'only' 43.4km :)
[22:39] <Upuiphone> yeah rubbish must try harder :)
[22:39] <daveake> lol
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[22:39] <fsphil> signal has gotten weaker in upuland
[22:39] <fsphil> coming back now
[22:39] <Upuiphone> peak district is my blind spot
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[22:39] <jcoxon> yeah its a bit weak here
[22:39] <jcoxon> hi F6AGV
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[22:39] <Upuiphone> over to Wales
[22:40] <Upuiphone> though at that alt shouldnt be an issue
[22:40] <F6AGV> hi I sleep on my keyboard !
[22:40] <Upuiphone> lol F6AGV
[22:40] <fsphil> there seems to be a null on the antenna
[22:40] <jdtanner> jcoxon: yes, but it is still in my bad side
[22:40] <fsphil> the signal is weaker in the direction the payload is travelling
[22:40] <Upuiphone> will sort that shortly with tagi
[22:40] <Upuiphone> yago
[22:40] Action: fsphil resists
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[22:40] <Upuiphone> yagi
[22:40] <daveake> lol
[22:40] Action: fsphil resists again
[22:40] <Upuiphone> yay
[22:41] <Upuiphone> iphone frw
[22:41] <Upuiphone> ftw
[22:41] <jdtanner> getting pretty consistent decodes
[22:41] <F6AGV> James eurus is going to Dublin ? or Isle of man ?
[22:41] <Upuiphone> right really off nn
[22:41] <fsphil> that's really odd jdtanner
[22:41] <jcoxon> F6AGV, not sure!
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[22:41] <jcoxon> it was not meant to go north
[22:41] <fsphil> it's heading straight for me again
[22:42] <gonzo_> hard to see that the airborne antenna is staying fixed in one direction
[22:42] <jdtanner> Yes, very odd. But I have thick stone walls and a hill behind and to my side, which is blocking a line of sight
[22:42] <F6AGV> yes altitude is down then no burst ?
[22:42] <fsphil> right, no burst. it may float all night
[22:43] <fsphil> have you gotten an all-night float beforej jcoxon?
[22:43] <jcoxon> yeah
[22:43] <jcoxon> ballasthalo2
[22:43] <F6AGV> wouah it's a long long night with Eurus not with my wife !
[22:44] <jcoxon> F6AGV, you've done amazingly
[22:44] <fsphil> yea
[22:48] <jdtanner> Sorry chaps&battery is about to run out&will pick up tomorrow if possible :)
[22:48] <fsphil> thanks for trying jdtanner :)
[22:48] <F6AGV> James I dont understand what you said
[22:48] <jdtanner> Just about managed a few decodes :P
[22:49] <jcoxon> F6AGV, the forecasts said that the balloon would go directly west
[22:49] <jcoxon> but it has turned north
[22:50] <F6AGV> oh yes and have you seen on READY the winds ?
[22:50] <jcoxon> yeah
[22:50] <F6AGV> strange ?
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[22:52] <F6AGV> I'm going to read READY winds prediction for this aera now
[22:52] <jcoxon> do you have a link?
[22:52] <F6AGV> Yes
[22:52] <F6AGV> wait a second
[22:55] <F6AGV> see here winds predictions : http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/READYcmet.php
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[22:56] <Laurenceb_> what voltage does battery die at?
[22:56] <jcoxon> 3.2
[22:57] <jcoxon> so got a bit to go
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[22:58] <F6AGV> see on two points 52.13N -0.90W and 52.59N -1.11W
[22:58] <Laurenceb_> os Darkside flying?
[22:58] <Laurenceb_> or is it a sim?
[22:58] <jcoxon> flying
[22:58] <daveake> flyin
[22:59] <Laurenceb_> cool
[22:59] <jcoxon> F6AGV, it should have kept going west
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[22:59] <Laurenceb_> at this rate there will be a hab somewhere 24/7
[23:01] <jcoxon> hehe
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[23:03] <F6AGV> James I have only a direction to 26755m (20 mb) : 89° not more high !
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[23:03] <jcoxon> yeah its really flying higher then forecastable
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[23:04] <Laurenceb_> heading for manchester airport
[23:04] <Laurenceb_> its on a airport tour
[23:05] <F6AGV> I don't know were it's possible to find higher prediction ? 34000 m is what pressure ?
[23:05] <daveake_> Belfast tomorrow
[23:05] <jcoxon> 10mb http://nstar.org/GFS/10mb/
[23:05] <jcoxon> i think this is higher then 10mb
[23:07] <F6AGV> yes I have pressure formula p = Po . e exp (-h/7.96) and -h / 7.96 = ln ( p/ po )
[23:07] <F6AGV> h = 34 km
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[23:13] <F6AGV> yeah direction is west ! I don't understand this north direction ???
[23:13] <jcoxon> oh well!
[23:13] <F6AGV> how is the jet stream ?
[23:13] <jcoxon> the jet stream is much lower
[23:15] <F6AGV> http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=6&mode=5
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[23:20] <F6AGV> http://www.sat24.com/
[23:21] <F6AGV> http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/dwdana.html
[23:23] <jcoxon> doesn't really help
[23:23] <F6AGV> I think isobares lines are to the North - West
[23:24] <F6AGV> but to 500 hpa !
[23:24] Action: SpeedEvil ponders the word isobares.
[23:24] <fsphil> repointed antenna in the attic west
[23:24] <SpeedEvil> Density of nudist camps?
[23:24] <fsphil> so I don't have to climb up there at 4am :)
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[23:24] <jcoxon> haha
[23:25] <jcoxon> fsphil, we need to float lower in future
[23:25] <fsphil> definitely
[23:25] <jcoxon> its moving so slowly...
[23:25] <jonsowman> yes
[23:25] <fsphil> hopefully the vent will help
[23:25] <F6AGV> isobars
[23:25] <jonsowman> still a great flight though
[23:25] <jcoxon> oh yes
[23:26] <jcoxon> who is staying up :-p
[23:26] <jcoxon> the isle of man globaltuner might come in use soon
[23:26] Action: fsphil may be intermittant :)
[23:26] <jcoxon> fsphil, get some sleep :-p
[23:27] <jdtanner> will leave mine running as long as there is signal :)
[23:27] <fsphil> might actually, upu's radio is autotuning just fine
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[23:28] <F6AGV> signal from Eurus is very good now !
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[23:30] <vk3bki> hello
[23:30] <F6AGV> who have the red button to burst the balloon now ?
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[23:31] <jcoxon> F6AGV, hehe
[23:31] <jcoxon> get some sleep F6AGV
[23:31] <jcoxon> i'll keep tracking
[23:31] <F6AGV> yes it's time to sleep !
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[23:33] <F6AGV> Manchester here we are !
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[23:34] <navrac> evening all
[23:34] <F6AGV> good night navrac
[23:34] <navrac> howstable is the frequency on eurus?
[23:34] <jcoxon> pretty good now
[23:34] <jcoxon> the null is annoying
[23:34] <jcoxon> it comes and goes
[23:34] <F6AGV> yeah very good
[23:35] <navrac> if i can work a way of getting yjr aerialcable in thru the winding i canhopefully remote my sdr to trackfor awhile
[23:35] <jcoxon> :-)
[23:35] <navrac> window...
[23:37] <jcoxon> nothing on globaltuners
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[23:41] <F6AGV> Eurus goes North again James
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[23:41] <navrac> sadly theres no way the cable will make it across the roof
[23:42] <jcoxon> its okau
[23:42] <navrac> i should have thought about it yesterday when i was on the roof, I've been busy so i missed the announcement
[23:43] <griffonbot> @jamescoxon: Eurus high altitude balloon still floating at just under 34km, currently over Manchester - 434.200Mhz USB - listeners required #ukhas #hamr [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/206531102972710913]
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[23:46] <navrac> so james - whats the trick to make thisone float?
[23:46] <jcoxon> its a high alt float
[23:46] <jcoxon> keep ascent rate under 4m/s
[23:46] <jcoxon> we got about 2.5
[23:47] <navrac> is this running your power saving payload?
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[23:48] <jcoxon> no just lots of batteries
[23:48] <jcoxon> 2x 4xAA
[23:48] <Darkside> eening all
[23:48] <navrac> that should give you a fair life
[23:48] <Darkside> well, morning
[23:48] <jcoxon> navrac, 70+ hrs
[23:48] <Darkside> 2 balloons in the air here
[23:48] <navrac> morning
[23:48] <navrac> 70+ hours sounds good
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[23:49] <Darkside> we're going to be going out of 3g range soon
[23:49] <Darkside> so i bid thee goodday
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[23:49] <Darkside> good-day
[23:49] <jcoxon> Darkside, repeater working?
[23:49] <navrac> nice rssi floor readings
[23:49] <Darkside> yes
[23:49] <Darkside> very well
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[23:49] <SpeedEvil> Darkside: Wave.
[23:49] <Darkside> if someoen can get our SPOT tracker on spacenearus that woudl be useful
[23:49] <MIchael_VK5ZEA> I wonder if the Horus26 balloon horizon will come west enough for me.
[23:50] <Darkside> maybe MIchael_VK5ZEA
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[23:50] <MIchael_VK5ZEA> it's heading away from me now... might be lucky.. time will tell.
[23:50] <F6AGV> other announcement, Eurus will land in UPU's garden
[23:51] <RocketBoy> yo jcoxon;
[23:51] <jcoxon> hi RocketBoy
[23:51] <RocketBoy> I just got back
[23:51] <jcoxon> eek
[23:51] <RocketBoy> bit longer than i expeccted
[23:52] <fsphil> all good RocketBoy?
[23:52] <RocketBoy> bit of a diversion around bedford
[23:52] <jcoxon> okay i can hear it on GT
[23:52] <jcoxon> anyone around to operator GT...
[23:52] <RocketBoy> yeah - just got it back before the lst rays of light gave up
[23:53] <RocketBoy> eurus looks good except for the direction
[23:53] <navrac> trying to findmy globaltunerspassword
[23:54] <jcoxon> you can use mine if you want
[23:55] <Darkside> has anyone here got a spot tracker up on spacenearus before
[23:55] <jcoxon> Darkside, done
[23:55] <jcoxon> i think
[23:55] <RocketBoy> could stay in range of the uk for another day at this rate
[23:55] <jcoxon> VK5VZI_chase
[23:55] <jcoxon> is spot
[23:56] <Darkside> almost out of range
[23:57] <daveake_> Nice flight RocketBoy
[23:58] <RocketBoy> tiring
[23:58] <daveake_> I bet
[23:58] <RocketBoy> still got it back
[23:58] <daveake_> :)
[23:58] <RocketBoy> thats always a bonus
[23:59] <daveake_> No trees or unhelpful landowners this time?
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