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[00:39] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[00:39] Action: SpeedEvil wonders when spacex's launch is.
[00:39] <SpeedEvil> ~8:30AM?
[00:40] <MrScienceMan> UTC ?
[00:42] <Randomskk> sadly just as I am on my way to labs :|
[00:42] <Randomskk> oh well
[00:42] <SpeedEvil> Launch is scheduled for May 22, 2012 at 07:44 UTC (3:44
[00:42] <SpeedEvil> says wikipedia
[00:43] <Randomskk> I wonder if I can live stream the launch video on my phone while I walk
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[04:28] <Darkside> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3i4Dl5wOru4/T7qGJeEAnGI/AAAAAAAABU8/zedUCI3klLw/s1600/Regions+-+MAPfrappe+Google+Maps+Mashup+-+Tasmania+compared+to+United+Kingdom.png
[04:28] <Darkside> lol
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[06:37] <oh7lzb> i
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[06:46] <fsphil> me
[06:46] <fsphil> morning fine folks
[06:46] <number10> morning
[06:47] <daveake> morning
[06:51] <x-f> morning
[06:51] <Upu> booyaa
[06:52] <x-f> here's a real photo of the Moon's shadow during the eclipse - http://phl.upr.edu/library/notes/eclipseofmay20-212012
[06:53] <x-f> SpaceX webcast starts in 7 minutes - http://www.spacex.com/webcast/, launch in 51 minutes
[06:53] <x-f> NASA's stream already on - http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/
[06:53] <Darkside> yup
[06:54] <daveake> All the cool launches have live video streams :p
[06:58] <Darkside> hah
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[07:01] <daveake> The T-nn:nn:nn countdown time seems a bit random
[07:02] <daveake> (SpaceX version)
[07:02] <fsphil> microsoft time?
[07:02] <daveake> :)
[07:02] <daveake> Gone now
[07:03] <daveake> I still want to build a countdown time with automatic balloon launcher :D
[07:03] <daveake> +r
[07:03] <daveake> For still days only, obviously!
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[07:07] <number10> daveake: sent email off to arhab last night - I think you had left when I mentioned it
[07:07] <fsphil> I see the clock now
[07:07] <daveake> ok, cool. I need to send another - I don't think he twigged that Buzz5 and 6 were separate flights
[07:07] <fsphil> it's like they've got Holly running the show
[07:07] <fsphil> "Five, Four, Three, One ... "
[07:08] <daveake> two one no, two again ....
[07:08] <daveake> Great advert for their technology
[07:09] <Darkside> runs off the holly hop drive
[07:09] <daveake> seems to have fixed itself
[07:10] <Darkside> fixed itself? no no these things don't fix themselves
[07:10] <Darkside> you've been tinkering with it havent you?!
[07:11] <daveake> yeah yeah it was me I admit it :D
[07:11] <Darkside> nobody got the reference?
[07:11] <Darkside> :(
[07:11] <daveake> nope, sorry
[07:11] Action: x-f blinks.
[07:11] <Darkside> Brazil!
[07:11] <Darkside> where's your 27b-6
[07:12] <daveake> aaah
[07:15] <daveake> "the center engine is literally the one in the middle"
[07:15] <daveake> Thanks for that :)
[07:16] <Darkside> im watching the nasa coverage
[07:16] <Darkside> seems better
[07:16] <daveake> Quite a difference between the usual dry NASA coverage and the bubbly isn't this great SpaceX version
[07:19] <russss> spacex are new at this lark, heh
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[07:20] <russss> there is a man with a tremendous moustache on the SpaceX feed
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[07:23] <fsphil> spotted him
[07:23] <daveake> russs: Is it this guy? :-) http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Anchorman/anchorman_the_legend_of_ron_burgundy_movie_image_will_ferrell__6_.jpg
[07:24] <russss> he does bear more than a passing resemblance
[07:24] Action: fsphil is stuck at work now and can't watch neat rocket launches
[07:32] <russss> when they're not proselytizing, the spacex feed has better camera angles and it's slightly less delayed than Nasa TV
[07:32] <russss> and it's HD
[07:34] <Darkside> haha
[07:35] <russss> they've stopped babbling now
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[07:38] <fsphil> what's the clock at?
[07:38] <x-f> -6:30
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[07:44] <fsphil> bet their flight computer is a bit better than an atmega
[07:44] <Randomskk> I should be walking to lectures
[07:44] <Randomskk> but 35 seconds, meh :P
[07:44] <daveake> So long as it's not a gadgeteer
[07:45] <daveake> weeee
[07:45] <fsphil> man the nasa announcer sounded releaved
[07:45] <Randomskk> :D :D :D
[07:45] <fsphil> "oh no, you're not catching me out this time"
[07:45] <fsphil> that rocket sounds great
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[07:45] <Randomskk> look at that thing
[07:45] <Randomskk> wow
[07:45] <fsphil> I can't !
[07:45] <fsphil> aarg
[07:45] <Randomskk> :(
[07:46] <fsphil> will watch the replay later
[07:46] Action: fsphil is listening to it :)
[07:46] Action: daveake turns sound up
[07:46] <fsphil> maxq
[07:46] <Randomskk> now supersonic
[07:46] Action: LazyLeopard joined the stream at t-29s ...
[07:46] <Randomskk> haha the bass is great
[07:46] <daveake> wah stream stopped :(
[07:46] <daveake> restarted
[07:46] <fsphil> still going here
[07:46] <fsphil> I can now hear crickets
[07:46] <russss> heh
[07:46] <Randomskk> onboard camera is glitching
[07:46] <russss> NASA TV's audio is better
[07:47] <Randomskk> 1km/s
[07:47] <fsphil> and silence
[07:47] <Randomskk> looks like a fireball
[07:47] <Randomskk> still all nominal
[07:48] <russss> sep and ignition
[07:48] <fsphil> it's a shame something that sounds so impressive travels to a place with no sound
[07:48] <russss> lol
[07:49] <Randomskk> I'm liking all the nominalness
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[07:49] <daveake> We need that. $$BUZZ,1234,ALL_SYSTEMS_NOMINAL
[07:49] <Randomskk> :D
[07:49] <fsphil> I like that they where able to go into the rocket and fix it in such a short space of time
[07:50] <daveake> Yes, amazing
[07:50] <Randomskk> time to run to labs
[07:50] <Randomskk> seeya later
[07:50] <daveake> bb
[07:50] <fsphil> have fun
[07:50] <Darkside> oh man
[07:50] <Darkside> that was awesome
[07:51] <fsphil> 4km/s
[07:51] <fsphil> sweet
[07:51] <fsphil> I can't imagine that
[07:51] <Darkside> man
[07:52] <Darkside> im loving the live video
[07:52] <daveake> Love that thrust vectoring thing
[07:52] <fsphil> hehe, gps lock is verified
[07:52] <pjm> that video looks analogue
[07:52] <pjm> it will be here in 9m 30s
[07:53] <pjm> (south UK)
[07:53] <Darkside> fsphil: dual band gps :-)
[07:53] <Darkside> pjm: yeah the video is inteesting isnt it
[07:53] <fsphil> you gonna have a go pjm?
[07:53] <russss> sunrise?
[07:53] <pjm> of course!
[07:53] <fsphil> ooh
[07:53] <russss> wow
[07:53] <pjm> s-band sdrs + video all setup
[07:53] <pjm> ready for telem
[07:53] <Darkside> niiiiice
[07:54] <Darkside> pjm: what RX ntenna?
[07:54] <fsphil> orbit!
[07:54] <fsphil> they made that look easy
[07:54] <Darkside> hmm
[07:54] <Darkside> i think i'm delayed
[07:54] <Darkside> 9:55
[07:55] <LazyLeopard> Yeah, there's one stream a minute or so behind the other....
[07:55] <russss> the spacex one seems ahead
[07:55] <russss> but moustache man is back
[07:55] <fsphil> 30 seconds to solar array deployment
[07:56] <russss> pjm: you should offer them your video ground station services :P
[07:56] <pjm> Darkside only 1m tracking antenna with s-band feed etc
[07:56] <LazyLeopard> Well, the spaceflightnow one is getting its input from spacex. ;)
[07:56] <pjm> we did all this stuff during shuttle era, copied the digital mux and decoded audio / video from it
[07:57] <russss> that's the first time they've deployed solar arrays, right? the previous mission was on battery
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[07:58] <Darkside> cooooooool
[07:58] <pjm> http://pjm.dyndns.org/ant1.jpg UHF / Sband tracker
[07:58] <Darkside> everyone at spaceX is very very happy now :-)
[07:58] <natrium42> :D
[07:58] <fsphil> step 1 is complete
[07:58] <Darkside> the announcer was certainly sounding happy
[07:58] <Darkside> oh wow
[07:58] <Darkside> moustache
[07:58] <r2x0t> lol
[07:59] <fsphil> hah
[07:59] <r2x0t> at least she is having fun
[07:59] <Darkside> yup
[07:59] <gonzo_> turned on by a solar deploy
[07:59] <gonzo_> my kind of girl!
[08:00] <fsphil> two days until it gets to the iss
[08:00] <fsphil> no, three days
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[08:03] <fsphil> they have to use the stations arm to catch it
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[08:34] <WillDuckworth> hey edmoore - are you going to the festival of rocketry?
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[08:44] <daveake> Bon Voyage Scotty - http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/may/21/star-trek-scotty-spacex-james-doohan?intcmp=239 :)
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[08:45] <fsphil> wasn't he laucnhed on another rocket and then lost in a mountain somewhere?
[08:46] <daveake> Yup http://www.hecklerspray.com/star-trek-scottys-space-ashes-lost-up-a-hill/20078316.php
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[09:08] <number10> spacex need to urn some money
[09:11] <MrScienceMan> did i miss the flight
[09:11] <MrScienceMan> overslept :\
[09:19] <cuddykid> same :(
[09:19] <cuddykid> MrScienceMan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDoTvNlCdbQ
[09:22] <MrScienceMan> couldnt sleep due to earthquake keeping me up :(
[09:24] <fsphil> that's an interesting alarm clock
[09:24] <fsphil> where was that?
[09:25] <MrScienceMan> MAP 4.3 2012/05/22 02:13:30 42.605 23.034 9.3 BULGARIA
[09:25] <MrScienceMan> MAP 4.6 2012/05/22 01:30:51 42.676 23.008 8.5 BULGARIA
[09:25] <MrScienceMan> MAP 5.6 2012/05/22 00:00:33 42.686 23.009 9.4 BULGARIA
[09:26] <fsphil> are they common?
[09:26] <MrScienceMan> add the fact that im on the 22th floor
[09:26] <fsphil> ooch
[09:26] <fsphil> Ireland doesn't get earthquakes. Well, rarely. And the last few where caused by fracking iirc
[09:26] <MrScienceMan> first one was proper long, almost a minute of shaking
[09:26] <zyp> you're a light sleeper?
[09:27] <MrScienceMan> wasnt actually sleeping :)
[09:28] <fsphil> a very polite 403 error: "You have requested data that the server has decided not to provide to you. Your request was understood and denied."
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[09:29] <zyp> I woke up by an earthquake last time I were in japan
[09:29] <zyp> most of the other guys I travelled with just slept right through it
[09:29] <MrScienceMan> there seems to be a everyday thing in japan
[09:29] <MrScienceMan> just off the coast
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[09:30] <zyp> it's not uncommon, at least
[09:30] <fsphil> it must be odd
[09:30] <zyp> I just checked the time, then fell back asleep
[09:31] <MrScienceMan> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html
[09:31] <MrScienceMan> from what i see here, theres at least 2 every other day
[09:31] <zyp> but most of them are so weak nobody cares
[09:32] <zyp> I've been to japan twice, for a month each time
[09:32] <zyp> I remember one earthquake from each trip
[09:33] <fsphil> even small quakes would make the main news here :)
[09:33] <fsphil> they'd have someone on going "everything in my room was vibrating, I was terrified"
[09:34] <fsphil> and it nothing worse than like when a lorry drives past
[09:34] <jonsowman> "my budgie nearly had a heart attack"
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[09:35] <fsphil> "one of my picture frames fell over. I'm not sure I'll ever recover"
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[09:37] <zyp> yeah, same here in norway
[09:42] <daveake> Nice pic of the SpaceX flight - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/22/article-2147981-1339AD86000005DC-774_634x425.jpg
[09:46] <number10> nice
[09:53] <SpeedEvil> Woo!
[09:53] <SpeedEvil> (just woke up)
[09:54] <SpeedEvil> Nice!
[10:01] Action: fsphil is still waking up
[10:03] Action: SpeedEvil too.
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[10:20] <number10> are you there fsphil ?
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[10:34] <fsphil> sortof
[10:35] <number10> talk later on after work :)
[10:44] <SpeedEvil> Heh - just been watching the spaceX COTS press-conference.
[10:44] <SpeedEvil> Elon looked like he could _really_ use some sleep.
[10:46] <russss> he always looks a bit out of it
[10:46] <SpeedEvil> Even more than normal, I mean.
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[10:48] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=DB8GbQaBDxM#t=4278s Shiny wetware.
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[10:49] <russss> https://twitter.com/#!/elonmusk/status/204883910654570496
[10:50] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[10:53] Action: SpeedEvil goes to change his t-shirt for a black one, so he can sit in the sun and read a tablet.
[10:56] <eroomde> so you overheat?
[10:58] <WillDuckworth> hey ed - are you going to the festival of rocketry next weekend?
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[11:09] <eroomde> WillDuckworth: i dont think so sorry
[11:09] <eroomde> i'm a bit rocketed out
[11:09] <eroomde> was going to go to the beach
[11:09] <WillDuckworth> good plan :)
[11:10] <eroomde> i will be doing some design work for my rocket though :)
[11:13] <WillDuckworth> similar to martlet or bigger n better?
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[11:24] <kokey> no visible passes of the ISS over the next day or so?
[11:25] <kokey> ah, 24 may
[11:30] <fsphil> they're overnight passes at the moment, maybe early morning it would be visible
[11:31] <kokey> that said, it's dodgy in the UK with all these clouds
[11:31] <LazyLeopard> Not so much dodgy as plain lost cause...
[11:31] <kokey> it was nice in Gibraltar, I had a script e-mail me to my phone 10 minutes before a visible pass, and usually I could see it
[11:32] <LazyLeopard> That said, the sun is actually shining at the momnt!
[11:32] <kokey> yeah it feels like a different country today
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[11:33] <kokey> I'm so sleep deprived today, so everything feels really weird
[11:33] <daveake> Could have done with this weather on Sunday!
[11:34] <LazyLeopard> Might have seen some geography ;)
[11:34] <LazyLeopard> ...rather than lots of meteorology.
[11:34] <daveake> indeed
[11:35] <kokey> yeah would have been nice
[11:36] <daveake> Initially, Steve wasn't going to launch at all because he thought the balloons would get wet through the clouds, scuppering any chances of any new records .... :p
[11:39] <kokey> I guess a high pressure system is a good thing
[11:40] <daveake> I've wondered about that. I wonder if the pressure at 40km+ varies much.
[11:41] <fsphil> it must do a little bit
[11:42] <daveake> so there will be times when it's easier to get really high altitudes
[11:43] <x-f> in theory, yes
[11:44] <daveake> I'm sure the biggest variable is the balloon itself. At least we've validated Steve's latest batch :D
[11:44] <kokey> well, it seems like there's a link between ascent rate and the burst height, so I figure a high pressure system must be helping
[11:46] <daveake> Sure, I just don't know if a high pressure system at low altitude equates to the same at high altitudes
[11:46] <fsphil> we'd need a good pressure sensor
[11:46] <x-f> at 30 km altitude 99% of the atmosphere mass is already below the balloon
[11:47] <daveake> Steve deliberately went for a high ascent rate, thinking that doing that (and avoiding a float) is a better option for high altitude. My Buzz2 did the same (unintentionally!). This time I went for a near-float. There was only 82m difference between the two. Maybe an ascent between those two would be better still. Dunno.
[11:48] <daveake> I have 2 more of the 1600s so maybe I'll find out :D
[11:48] <daveake> Wonder if Steve has sold out (again) yet.
[11:49] <x-f> do you have any of those SPC pressure sensors left?
[11:50] <daveake> Only in the North Sea
[11:50] <daveake> SCP1000
[11:50] <Laurenceb> daveake: you found xaben altitude?
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[11:51] <daveake> Not sure what you mean. Upu I think it was received the packet with the highest altitude in it.
[11:51] <daveake> Currently it's up a tree
[11:51] <Laurenceb> "There was only 82m difference between the two"
[11:51] <Laurenceb> how do you know?
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[11:52] <daveake> Xaben's highest reported alt was 82m higher than Buzz's
[11:52] <Laurenceb> hmmm
[11:52] <Laurenceb> i thought that was dodgey?
[11:52] <Laurenceb> did anyone plot the logs?
[11:53] <Laurenceb> SpeedEvil: didnt you write a script?
[11:53] <daveake> I think Upu looked into it and decided it all added up
[11:53] <Laurenceb> oh wow
[11:53] <Laurenceb> impressive
[11:53] <Laurenceb> so Steve keeps the record
[11:53] <daveake> Not my flight, and as a possible beneficiary if it was rejected, I'm keeping well out of it :)
[11:53] <Laurenceb> hgeh
[11:55] <Laurenceb> either way CNSP are annihilated
[11:55] <daveake> Indeed
[11:55] <Laurenceb> were you both using hydrogen?
[11:55] <daveake> Paradoxically, Buzz getting a similar altitude does help support Xaben's claim to fame. :p
[11:56] <Laurenceb> yes
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[12:09] <fsphil> they're on arhab now
[12:09] <number10> hopefully my one will be on arhab later
[12:09] <fsphil> PBH looking very lonely down there at 7th :)
[12:10] <daveake> lol
[12:10] <daveake> I mean, what a shame
[12:12] <fsphil> I never bothered submitting my altitudes
[12:12] <fsphil> suppose I should
[12:12] <fsphil> I'd be at 69
[12:12] <daveake> I just re-sent BUZZ5 . I sent it in last week but BUZZ6 showed up but not BUZZ5.
[12:13] <daveake> When that goes on PBH will go further down :p
[12:32] <daveake> Didn't realise that Buzz6 only held the new world record for 5 minutes and 40 seconds
[12:33] <number10> didnt even get time to celebrate
[12:34] <daveake> It was all a bit confusing what with Xaben not transmitting and then suddenly waking up
[12:34] <daveake> I was pleased and surprised enough when Buzz burst into life
[12:34] <eroomde> do we know the cause of xaben going quiet?
[12:34] <daveake> I've not heard anything
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[12:35] <eroomde> was there carrier wheilst it was dead?
[12:36] <Laurenceb> yes
[12:36] <Laurenceb> sounds like processor died
[12:36] <eroomde> spooky
[12:37] <fsphil> steve said there was code added to transmit the highest altitude, I wonder if that cause it to pause if the balloon floated
[12:37] <fsphil> these things tend to float a bit before bursting
[12:38] <eroomde> a lace condition
[12:38] <eroomde> race
[12:38] <gonzo-mob> rebooted, so a boot lace!
[12:38] <daveake> I was trying to figure out if there was a chinese lubber joke there somewhere
[12:39] <gonzo-mob> (awaits puns.....)
[12:39] <eroomde> why my fright tracker no worky right?
[12:39] <eroomde> Altitude Fluctuations, sir
[12:39] <eroomde> Fluck Your British!!
[12:39] <eroomde> You*
[12:40] <daveake> Shame Maplins don't sell NTX2s. "Does the NTX2 work over 800km range?". "No, this product does not support that"
[12:42] <cuddykid> haha
[12:43] <daveake> I think I know the response from Julie when I tell her that Buzz held the record for about 5 minutes. It will be "But you keep telling me that 5 minutes is plenty of time"
[12:47] <eroomde> i had a picnic for lunch
[12:47] <eroomde> it is glorious
[12:47] <daveake> nice
[12:47] <eroomde> we have a little treeish lagoon thing just near the test stands which is perfect
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[12:56] <WillDuckworth> j.e.a.l.o.u.s. ed
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[12:57] <SpeedEvil> eroomde: :)
[12:58] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: I generally don't keep random little scripts
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[12:58] <cuddykid> perfect day to engage in HAB activities
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[13:03] Action: SpeedEvil idly wonders how fast spaceX could ramp if congress were to say 'Right, we've cancelled SLS, what can you do for 1.5 billion/year'.
[13:04] <fsphil> totally ot, but the eurofighter sounds really spooky when it's heading towards you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijs6csP5UbY
[13:04] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: Not really.
[13:05] <SpeedEvil> You could use it as a cutdown
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[13:05] <vk5gr> ping Darkside
[13:09] <UpuWork> eroomde Steve isn't sure why the main loop stopped transmitting
[13:09] <UpuWork> afternoon
[13:13] <Darkside> vk5gr: yep
[13:13] <vk5gr> just checking you got the e-mail with the accom details?
[13:13] <Darkside> yep
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[13:14] <Darkside> all good, certainly makes my life a bit easier
[13:14] <vk5gr> cool - no probs
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[13:14] <Darkside> i'm working on getting sat imagery of the area
[13:14] <vk5gr> its only about 5 blocks rom the launch site too
[13:14] <vk5gr> good
[13:14] <vk5gr> preds gone sour again - back over towards ivanhoe - gonna be a long drive
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[13:14] <Darkside> hrm
[13:15] <Darkside> so you're heading up tomorrow?
[13:15] <vk5gr> yup
[13:15] <vk5gr> leaving the city around 1pm i think
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[13:15] <Darkside> vk5gr: ok
[13:15] <vk5gr> just left matts - he was still tryingto get a tx interface working for the 706
[13:15] <Darkside> ahh ok
[13:15] <vk5gr> not sure if he will succeed.
[13:15] <Darkside> damn
[13:15] <vk5gr> he's running out of hours
[13:16] <Darkside> mmm
[13:16] <Darkside> i still need to build up more micronut boards
[13:16] <Darkside> we've got 2 more 434.650 modules
[13:16] <vk5gr> had half of it built when i left - he needed to wire the if box to pc end next
[13:16] <Darkside> mm, its a pretty simple interfce
[13:16] <vk5gr> figuring 434075 on the voice repeater and 650 on the cameras?
[13:16] <Darkside> i think so, yeah
[13:17] <Darkside> since you've advertised it as such
[13:17] <Darkside> cutdowns will be on 431.7 and 431.5MHz
[13:17] <Darkside> though we can modify that as required
[13:17] <vk5gr> (4075 is what Terry oriiginally gave me - i havent said what the camera one will be
[13:17] <Darkside> so there'll be HORUS and OSIRIS on the WIA balloon, and DARKSIDE and PETUNIA on the RSP balloon
[13:17] <vk5gr> cool
[13:18] <Darkside> though the the cutdown callsigns don't matter much
[13:18] <vk5gr> true
[13:18] <Darkside> its more the telemetry callsigns, that can cause problems
[13:18] <vk5gr> no probs
[13:18] <Darkside> so we have HORUS and DARKSIDE in the DB
[13:18] <Darkside> having HORUS and DARKSIDE makes it a bit harder to pick the wrong one
[13:19] <vk5gr> yes
[13:19] <vk5gr> going to be important when we are flicking between the two
[13:19] <Darkside> yup
[13:19] <Darkside> i'm goign to be juggling 3 payloads in the back seat of terrys car
[13:20] <SpeedEvil> Isn't juggling payloads just macrame?
[13:20] <Darkside> bah
[13:20] <Darkside> SpeedEvil: theres going to be 4 telemetry systems in teh air
[13:20] <Darkside> wait, 6
[13:20] <Darkside> but 2 will be APRS
[13:20] <vk5gr> we are going to need to use the voice repeater between us I think - better make sure terry has something that can talk through it
[13:20] <vk5gr> the 2 APRS take care of themselves - ARG-11 and ARG-12
[13:20] <Darkside> yeah he's getting his yaesu back in his car
[13:20] <Darkside> so he'll have 50W on 2m
[13:21] <vk5gr> so we can let each other know when each is going to be terminated
[13:21] <vk5gr> good
[13:21] <Darkside> and i think i'll be setting the manpack up at the launch site for comms with you
[13:21] <vk5gr> presume you'll take the hf manpack
[13:21] <Darkside> yeah
[13:21] <Darkside> i'll just try using a vertical while you're on the road
[13:21] <Darkside> might have to throw out a long-wire
[13:21] <Darkside> you'll get out of 2m range pretty wuick i think
[13:21] <vk5gr> figuring that it will be all hands on deck to launch the repeater - as soon as it is in the air matt and i will take off and leave you, al and terry to fill the second one
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[13:22] <Darkside> i think the first one will be RSP, not sure though
[13:22] <Darkside> working on converting the ozi maps to a format suitable for use on my tablet
[13:23] <vk5gr> oh ok - RSP while it has the cut down probably doiesnt need it - set that one up for 5m and burst methinks and only cut down if landing in a bad area
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[13:23] <Darkside> yeah
[13:23] <Darkside> good point
[13:23] <Darkside> we can get that while the WIA balloon is floating
[13:23] <Darkside> (we hope)
[13:23] <vk5gr> the repeaters, if we float them or do 3m assent decent will fly further and then cut down when ready to retrieve it provided it doesnt drift too far away
[13:24] <Darkside> yup
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[13:25] <vk5gr> so if the cameras fly second, zm will be ready to catch them while monitoring the repeater - while you catch up - and if we need to switch to the repeater before you reach us well at least we have had people near the cameras for most of the flights
[13:25] <vk5gr> anyway we can sort that out up there
[13:25] <vk5gr> gonna turn into a pumpkin
[13:25] <Darkside> also tery is thinking of putting a gopro on the repeater launch
[13:25] <Darkside> if we have the weight budget
[13:25] <vk5gr> today was the end of a crap month at work - 1.6 weeks off now - time to relax and play radios
[13:25] <Darkside> cool
[13:25] <Darkside> and work on the presentation!
[13:25] <Darkside> :D
[13:26] <vk5gr> ok - will just cost us helium i guess
[13:26] <vk5gr> yup
[13:26] <vk5gr> i have the introducing horus and horus 23 videos on the laptop already
[13:26] <vk5gr> they play fine
[13:26] <vk5gr> will log in and look at the other aspects of the sides while up there
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[13:27] <Darkside> my laptop will play anything
[13:27] <Darkside> :P
[13:27] <Darkside> quad core i7 laptop ftw
[13:27] <vk5gr> thats good :-)
[13:27] <Darkside> i'll probabyl pretty up the presentation in the truck on teh way to mildura
[13:27] <Darkside> shoudl have 3g all teh way
[13:27] <vk5gr> ok seeya - 146.8 repeater as you come into Mildura
[13:27] <vk5gr> yes pretty much
[13:28] <Darkside> ok
[13:28] <vk5gr> niteynite
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[13:35] <daveake> Number10 Buzz5 is up now in the records section on arhab; don't see anu there yet
[13:38] <Laurenceb> aha found it
[13:38] <Laurenceb> wget http://spacenear.us/tracker/data.php?format=kml -O -|awk 'BEGIN{OFS=" ";FS=","}/Line Track for infinity/{c=1}c==1&&/coord/{c=2;next}c==2&&/coord/{exit}c==2{print $1,$2,$3}' >data
[13:38] Action: Laurenceb hugs log search
[13:38] <Laurenceb> but it doesnt seem to work
[13:38] <Laurenceb> im guessing with habhub etc something changed
[13:42] <MrScienceMan> http://i.imgur.com/FHt5g.png
[13:42] <MrScienceMan> anyone can tell me what coding is that?
[13:43] <kokey> quick, alert SETI
[13:45] <MrScienceMan> lol
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[13:53] <number10> OK, daveake I'll leave it a while and send them a reminder - they are probably working through email stack
[13:54] <Laurenceb> ok so i got the xaben data
[13:54] <Laurenceb> i think its looks sane
[13:54] <Laurenceb> ascent was quite fast at the end - 5.7m/s
[13:54] <Laurenceb> but that could have been the latex yielding
[13:56] <daveake> number10 Yeah quite likely
[13:56] <daveake> I see that 7 of the top 10 are UK flights :)
[13:57] <fsphil> hah
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[13:59] <UpuWork-> well
[13:59] <UpuWork-> when ANU gets on there will be 8 of 10
[13:59] <UpuWork-> possibly
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[14:00] <daveake> :)
[14:02] <daveake> Wonder when someone will get 44km
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[14:06] <fsphil> at this rate, in a few weeks
[14:07] <daveake> June 9th hopefully :p
[14:09] <number10> wonder whos launching then
[14:10] <fsphil> hmm
[14:10] <daveake> Yeah I wonder :D
[14:10] <fsphil> could be anyone
[14:10] <daveake> well I think cuddykid has applied, as have I
[14:10] <WillDuckworth> same here
[14:10] <WillDuckworth> but not going for alt
[14:11] <number10> what are you launching WillDuckworth
[14:11] <fsphil> steve should call his payload Zurg next time
[14:11] <daveake> lol
[14:12] <WillDuckworth> number10 - some cutdown testing, heading and attitude test unit
[14:12] <WillDuckworth> mixing it up a bit
[14:13] <number10> sonds good - are you trigering cutown with uplink?
[14:13] <number10> U
[14:14] <WillDuckworth> nope - burst detection
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[14:14] <WillDuckworth> but i like the sound of the remote trigger stuff going on
[14:17] <Darkside> it works awesomely
[14:17] <Darkside> we've had great success with it here
[14:17] <WillDuckworth> good stuff - any special antenna requirements?
[14:17] <Darkside> no, but i'm not using a RFM22B module on the ground side
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[14:18] <Darkside> i'm transmitting up recorded packets with a a SSB transmitter
[14:19] <Darkside> helps when you're in the null - i just dial the power up to a few watts and i'm fine
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[14:28] <Darkside> when i get time i'll write up something about how it works
[14:28] <Darkside> time to leep
[14:28] <Darkside> sleep
[14:29] <NigelMoby> Nn mark.
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[14:40] <fsphil> I could use some sleep too
[14:42] <fsphil> or loud music
[14:45] Action: SpeedEvil puts on Macarena, and turns it up to 11.
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[15:41] <cuddykid> WillDuckworth: are you all set for launch?
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[15:56] <number10> ping UpuWork
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[15:58] <eroomde> ping the world!
[15:58] <number10> pong eroomde
[15:58] <jonsowman> afternoon
[15:58] <SamSilver_> gday
[15:59] <gonzo_> there is a lot of world, could take a while!
[15:59] <fsphil> world: host not found
[15:59] <daveake> No route to world
[16:01] <eroomde> yo
[16:01] <number10> its a small world
[16:01] <eroomde> i've just finished today's actual work work
[16:02] <eroomde> which i was hoping to do at lunch time
[16:02] <eroomde> so now i can start the afternoon's work on engine design
[16:02] <eroomde> i am going home in 20 mins
[16:02] <Laurenceb> 2 stroke or 4?
[16:02] <Laurenceb> /troll
[16:03] <eroomde> too early for stroking
[16:03] <eroomde> just looking at mixture ratios
[16:03] <Laurenceb> lol
[16:03] <Laurenceb> ispcalc.exe from dunn space helps
[16:03] <eroomde> i'm using cea
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[16:08] <Laurenceb> havent come across it
[16:08] <Laurenceb> what does it stand for?
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[16:10] Action: Laurenceb is watching nasa tv
[16:10] <Laurenceb> interesting their rover thing is sponsored by jcb :P
[16:11] <eroomde> Chemicl Equilibrium Analysis
[16:11] Action: Laurenceb once used ispcalc to work out what happened when different plastic bags were burnt
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[16:12] <Laurenceb> oh thanks for reminding me - think i have a copy of it on a hard drive somewhere....
[16:13] <Laurenceb> had forgotten about that
[16:13] <eroomde> it's good
[16:14] <eroomde> just trying to figure out combustion chamber pressure and lengths
[16:14] <eroomde> it's a very iterative process, forwards and backwards passes through the system till you get a whole setup that works
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[16:16] Action: Laurenceb was using ispcalc to see how much off the shelf cesaroni reloads could be improved
[16:16] <Laurenceb> looked like 280s was possible at 32km with a relatively large nozzle
[16:17] <eroomde> the burn profile is a fascinating area for improvement
[16:17] <eroomde> the astrobee sounding ropcket got to 100km on a solid
[16:17] <Laurenceb> yeah i never fully understood
[16:17] <eroomde> with only about 60kg of soliud fuel i think it was
[16:17] <Laurenceb> the off the shelf stuff seems to run at crazy high pressure
[16:17] <eroomde> just because they optimised the burn to go slow in the thick stuff then ramp up
[16:18] <Laurenceb> but if you lower the pressure then at some point it flames out
[16:18] <eroomde> mine will be a fairly low pressure i think
[16:18] <eroomde> about 20bar
[16:18] <Laurenceb> i heard ~1Mpascal for ammonium perchlorate composite?
[16:18] <Laurenceb> yeah
[16:18] <Laurenceb> - 1Mpa -> flameout
[16:18] <eroomde> i find it amazing that you can have a pipe with a big hole in the end but with 20 bar in it
[16:19] <Laurenceb> and if you lower the pressure its burn more slowly
[16:19] <Laurenceb> *it burns
[16:19] <eroomde> yah
[16:19] <Laurenceb> which helps as well, so its win win... until it flames out :P
[16:20] <Laurenceb> at altitude a low pressure doesnt effect the isp either
[16:20] <eroomde> the space shuttle main engine chambre pressure was 3000psi
[16:20] <eroomde> about 200bar
[16:20] <eroomde> which is bonkersly high
[16:20] <Laurenceb> it looked like you could get about 15s burntime by lowering a cesaroni to 2Mpa
[16:20] Action: Laurenceb looks up the precise reload he modelled
[16:20] <eroomde> isp in vacuum of 452
[16:22] <Laurenceb> http://pro38.com/products/pro54/motor/MotorData.php?prodid=1195J295-16A
[16:22] <Laurenceb> i think one of those - for n-prixe first stage
[16:22] <Laurenceb> *prize
[16:22] <Laurenceb> dont laugh :P
[16:23] <WillDuckworth> tweaked yeah
[16:24] <Laurenceb> in CF tube with silicone rubber lining
[16:24] <eroomde> Biprops are where it's at
[16:24] <eroomde> fo sho
[16:24] <WillDuckworth> not much actual propellant
[16:24] <eroomde> you can throttle them and turn them off
[16:24] <Laurenceb> with custom silica ribbon + resin nozzle
[16:24] <Laurenceb> then you could probably get 280s at 32km launch altitude
[16:24] <Laurenceb> and get ~3Km/s delta v from the first stage
[16:25] <Laurenceb> of course its still nuts
[16:25] <WillDuckworth> 3 stages?
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[16:25] <Laurenceb> but the idea was vaguely build able
[16:25] <Laurenceb> yes
[16:25] <Laurenceb> spun at 30hz and launched from a balloon at 32km
[16:26] <eroomde> biprop.
[16:26] <eroomde> biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[16:26] <eroomde> prop.
[16:26] <Laurenceb> heh
[16:26] <eroomde> i say hello you say goodbiprop
[16:26] <Laurenceb> i said vuagely buildable
[16:26] <WillDuckworth> lol
[16:26] <eroomde> biprops are vaguely buildable
[16:26] <Laurenceb> true, at larger scales
[16:26] <eroomde> yes
[16:26] <Laurenceb> this was n-prize
[16:26] <eroomde> but nprize would be large scales
[16:27] <Laurenceb> total vehicle was 1Kg takeoff mass
[16:27] <eroomde> biprops can be done to be sort of mass and performance equivalent to an M close motor i reckon
[16:27] <WillDuckworth> how much would a 3000 balloon carry up to 32km do you reckon?
[16:27] <Laurenceb> few Kg
[16:27] <eroomde> 5kg or so?
[16:27] <Laurenceb> i went to a 1600 to save money XD
[16:27] <eroomde> we took 16kg to 27km with one
[16:27] <Laurenceb> in the design
[16:27] <Laurenceb> wow
[16:27] <eroomde> but they seem quite variable in quality and performance
[16:27] <eroomde> i dont trust them that much
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[16:28] <Laurenceb> yeah
[16:28] <WillDuckworth> hmmmm, 25k launch alt maybe with 2 or 3 balloons?
[16:28] <Laurenceb> the present n-prize crew are a bunch of jokers
[16:28] <eroomde> for rockoons we were looking at stacking a few 3kgs yeah
[16:28] <Laurenceb> no chance of them building _anything_
[16:28] <eroomde> and going for about 28km launch alt
[16:29] <WillDuckworth> nice chat - got to go. ttfn
[16:29] Action: Laurenceb is currently repairing a vacuum silicone mixing rig
[16:29] <Laurenceb> see i have some parts ready already :P
[16:29] <Laurenceb> well degassing - the mixing is done in air
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[16:34] <Laurenceb> those spanish n-prize guys have done some interesting stuff
[16:34] <Laurenceb> but they dont seem to be capable of learning
[16:35] <Laurenceb> they try the same stupid stuff again and again and again and again
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[16:35] <eroomde> copenhagen are a bit like that
[16:35] <eroomde> they do cool stuff and get stuff done
[16:35] <eroomde> but they seem to prefer welding to analysis
[16:36] <eroomde> and do some pretty ropey stuff from a conceptual and design pov
[16:38] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zriJJVxLuig
[16:38] Action: Laurenceb facepalms
[16:39] <eroomde> what the hell is that?
[16:39] <eroomde> a flare?
[16:39] <Laurenceb> i know one thing, its not going to launch into orbit
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[16:44] <Laurenceb> bbl
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[16:59] <SpeedEvil> hahahhhahhahahhah
[16:59] <daveake> They should build a parallel version ...
[16:59] <daveake> ... with 7Up
[17:00] <eroomde> that was bizarre
[17:00] <eroomde> i dont know what they were trying to do?
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[17:41] <number10> G0DJA: Thanks for tracking Anu2 on sunday
[17:45] <G0DJA> No problem number10
[17:47] <G0DJA> Also managed to get some from BUZZ when ANU2 dropped out of my range
[17:48] <G0DJA> Did they get XABEN back out of the tree in the end?
[17:48] <griffonbot> Received email: David Akerman "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Possible ANU / BUZZ / CLOUD Launch - 5/5/2012"
[17:48] <daveake> No, the tree won
[17:49] <daveake> Steve said the landowner wasn't specially happy
[17:50] <G0DJA> Oh dear :-(
[17:50] <daveake> I think Steve is going for the bribery option
[17:52] <G0DJA> Wont be able to do any RXing this weekend - family wedding
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[18:03] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAChIE5i4xo&feature=player_detailpage#t=322s - hah
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[18:12] <number10> not sure if anyone is launching this weekend
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[18:14] <SpeedEvil> IIRC SpaceX off the ISS - with luck
[18:20] <SpeedEvil> Item 47 on checklist: Make sure CEO has not stowed away on rocket.
[18:20] <fsphil> hah
[18:21] <fsphil> if I was the boss of spacex, I'd be tempted :)
[18:24] <Zuph> Webcomic I'm reading is currently doing an arc about a space entrepreneur named "Leon" who hijacks the space station and heads to Mars: http://www.bigheadpress.com/eft?page=869
[18:26] <fsphil> wasn't that a plot in startrek enterprise?
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[18:47] <staylo> Yeah, I think it aired just after the one where they're leaping from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong
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[18:54] <fsphil> I think Robocop was in it too
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[19:00] <jcoxon> evening
[19:00] <Upu> evening jcoxon
[19:06] <jcoxon> hey Upu
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[19:15] <jcoxon> can i clear the tracker?
[19:15] <jcoxon> its a bit busy
[19:16] <daveake> Fine by me - I have my screenshots
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[19:21] <G0DJA> Lunar_Lander - It looks like the section on the Friedrichshafen Ham Exhibition was left on from 2010...
[19:21] <G0DJA> Can't find anything in the programmes for this year
[19:23] <mclane> hello, does anybody know about dl-fldigi running in ubuntu 11.10 64bit?
[19:25] <jcoxon> mclane, you could certainly compile it
[19:25] <mclane> I need to know how to monitor the incoming sound (route sound from mic in to phone out)
[19:25] <jcoxon> i'm not sure if there is a deb
[19:27] <mclane> compiling is not the issue, I have it up and running
[19:29] <jcoxon> oh cool
[19:38] <fsphil> you need to install pavucontrol
[19:38] <fsphil> in the recording tab, you can control where each app gets its audio from
[19:39] <fsphil> actually no, that only helps if you've got multiple sound cards
[19:42] <fsphil> alsamixer can do it but it's quite an old command line program
[19:43] <fsphil> well there really doesn't seem to be a simple way to select between line-in and mic
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[19:48] <nick_> Hi guys and gals.
[19:48] <nick_> Some of you may remember that you helped me out with a circuit board design a week or so ago.
[19:49] <fsphil> howdy nick_
[19:49] <Upu> evening
[19:49] <nick_> I thought I'd drop by and let you know I've got the board made and I'm starting to get it working :D
[19:50] <nick_> There are a few posts about it on my g+ page if anyone is interested.
[19:50] <fsphil> sweet
[19:50] <nick_> https://plus.google.com/110529057212701972281/posts
[19:51] <nick_> I'm getting close to it doing what I want but I'm seeing some funny behaviour.
[19:52] <fsphil> nice scope
[19:53] <nick_> It's a cheap one I borrowed from our teaching lab because I'm doing some work for them.
[19:54] <fsphil> I've been looking at a couple recently, hoping to get a nice budget one
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[19:54] <fsphil> I ran with an old analogue one for a while, but it broke and I've been consdering the digital ones
[19:55] <griffonbot> Received email: David Akerman "Re: [UKHAS] Possible launches19th or 20th May - XABEN-25"
[19:55] <nick_> I think this one is ~£300
[19:55] <mclane> alsamixer did not work either
[19:56] <fsphil> start alsamixer like this: alsamixer -c0
[19:56] <fsphil> press tab until the recording volumes are on the screen
[19:56] <fsphil> cursor over to the line-in or mic port, and press space
[19:56] <fsphil> it should then say CAPTURE under it
[19:57] <fsphil> you might need to adjust the volume of it too
[19:57] <fsphil> that's not bad nick_
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[19:57] <fsphil> the one I was looking at was about that, 50MHz although can be upgraded to 100Mhz through firmware update
[19:58] <mclane> that is what i did without effect (I see however the changing input level in the fldigi waterfall)
[19:59] <nick_> I think the department got a lower price by buying in bulk, but I think that's approx. the normal retail price.
[19:59] <nick_> It's quite a nice scope.
[20:00] <nick_> I can't complain, pretty much all the equipment I have is free (I don't yet have an official project or budget)
[20:00] <nick_> My circuit board was free too because our electronics workshop are awesome :D
[20:01] <fsphil> nice
[20:01] <nick_> It's just crappy 2 layer without any vias, which screwed me over because I was being stupid when I originally soldered it all up.
[20:02] <nick_> But it's close to working, so I'm almost very happy.
[20:02] <nick_> Compared to this morning when my circuit was a mess of horrible noise it is now great.
[20:02] <nick_> Today I learnt a very simple lesson: twist together and tidy up wires and life gets a lot easier.
[20:09] <mclane> finally I found a solution: pactl load-module module-loopback
[20:15] <fsphil> and use vias :)
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[20:18] <nick_> fsphil: I'd use vias if my free option allowed it.
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[20:19] <nick_> I even knew when populating the board that I needed to put some thin wires through to fake vias, but I forgot to do it on the large thruogh hole components.
[20:19] <nick_> oops
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[20:19] <fsphil> I've not done much pcb design, but there's already been a few really good "oops"
[20:20] <nick_> But it only meant spending a couple of hours with a multimeter checking connections, removing and resoldering the terminal blocks...
[20:20] <nick_> (and short circuiting to remove a pot)
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[20:20] <nick_> This is my first pcb
[20:21] <nick_> Hopefully I'll make another one soonish, and since I should be paying I'll see if I can get trained to use their machine.
[20:24] <daveake> wow
[20:24] <daveake> whoops
[20:24] <fsphil> hiya neo
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[20:25] <daveake> :)
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[20:30] <griffonbot> Received email: James Coxon "[UKHAS] UKHAS Conference 2012"
[20:30] <nick_> Where/when is the conference?
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[20:31] <Upu> are you on the mailing list ?
[20:31] <daveake> Cool I can watch people adding themselves :)
[20:31] <nick_> No
[20:31] Action: Upu slaps nick_ :)
[20:31] <Upu> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/ukhas/uqlEzK6pRQM
[20:31] <Upu> and go subscribe
[20:32] <cuddykid> added in :D
[20:32] <daveake> I know
[20:32] <daveake> I saw :)
[20:32] <cuddykid> haha
[20:32] <cuddykid> ooer
[20:33] <nick_> Oh, that's an interesting time for me.
[20:33] <nick_> Maybe I can squeeze it in between a conference and my wedding.
[20:33] <Upu> whens your wedding ?
[20:33] <fsphil> delay the wedding
[20:33] <daveake> We need a column for "extra onions please"
[20:33] <Upu> lol
[20:33] <Upu> now now :)
[20:33] <fsphil> lol
[20:34] <fsphil> aaah google docs
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[20:43] <Elmar_PD3EM> evening all!
[20:43] <fsphil> yo!
[20:44] <Elmar_PD3EM> So a new UKHAS Conference is being planned!
[20:44] <Upu> evening Elmar
[20:44] <Upu> indeed fancy a trip to Nodnol ?
[20:44] <Elmar_PD3EM> haha... I'm thinking about it
[20:45] <Elmar_PD3EM> would be a nice excuse to go to London
[20:45] <Upu> well pop your name down we won't hold you too it
[20:45] <Upu> we are just getting numbers together
[20:47] <Elmar_PD3EM> Will have to sort out whether I could skip office a day ahead and a few after the weekend ;-)
[20:48] <Elmar_PD3EM> and combine it with a balloon chase on Sunday
[20:48] <Upu> fair enough :)
[20:49] <Elmar_PD3EM> but it would be great to come over to the UK for it and have an Eyeball QSO
[20:49] <Upu> yeah would be good to put a face to a name
[20:49] <Upu> and you get to chat with everyone its a good day
[20:50] <Elmar_PD3EM> have seen a lot of pics the last couple of days but hard to get all the names with it
[20:50] <Elmar_PD3EM> so a "facebook" on the ukhas website would be nice
[20:52] <Upu> personally I don't do facebook
[20:53] <Elmar_PD3EM> have one problem at the moment.... way to busy to work on the code and electronics for my payload..
[20:54] <Elmar_PD3EM> Upu: not exactly the facebook website was what I ment, but it would be nice to put faces with the names here
[20:55] <Elmar_PD3EM> put my name on the list ;-)
[20:55] <Upu> I'd just check peoples blogs and pictures
[20:55] <Upu> 50% of the people on here are on daveake's pictures somewhere :)
[20:56] <Elmar_PD3EM> haha! where nice pics of last Sundays launches!
[20:56] <daveake> Upu lol
[20:57] <Elmar_PD3EM> Are launches planned for June 2nd still a go?
[20:57] <daveake> I've only met 5 other HABbers, actually
[20:57] <daveake> 6
[20:58] <Elmar_PD3EM> We have a Fieldday with our club that5 day
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[20:58] <Elmar_PD3EM> so I want to do some tracking from the Field :-)
[20:58] <Elmar_PD3EM> It's too early for my own launch that day
[20:59] <jcoxon> Elmar_PD3EM, i'm planning on launching this weekend
[20:59] <jcoxon> though its not going in your direction
[21:00] <Elmar_PD3EM> Great jcoxon !
[21:00] <Elmar_PD3EM> I might drive to the coast then to get a better change on tracking
[21:01] <jcoxon> its going to fly directly west
[21:02] <Elmar_PD3EM> jcoxon: all the way over the great pond or just within the UK?
[21:04] <jcoxon> it'll be quite slow
[21:04] <jcoxon> so the UK
[21:04] <Elmar_PD3EM> ok. I think it would be hard to get a HAB to the States with the east circulation
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[21:08] <Elmar_PD3EM> off to bed now... has been a long day. CUL
[21:08] <Elmar_PD3EM> good night all
[21:09] <Upu> nn
[21:09] <fsphil> nite!
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[21:36] <cuddykid> great shot -> http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2012/05/spacex-rocket-soars-over-mission-space-at-epcot/
[21:38] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[21:47] <cuddykid> that's enough silly stats proof for one day
[21:49] <SpeedEvil> Prove it!
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[21:50] <cuddykid> haha
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[22:12] <Laurenceb_> the spacenear kml thingys is nuts
[22:12] <Laurenceb_> its like several hundered bytes per data point
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[22:15] <SpeedEvil> kml is verbose.
[22:16] <Laurenceb_> its kind of fun
[22:16] <Laurenceb_> i wrote a kml photo gallery ages ago
[22:16] <Laurenceb_> theres probably a tag now :P
[22:17] <Laurenceb_> flickr shots as clickable thumbnails along your path
[22:18] <Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/RmiGL.png
[22:18] <Laurenceb_> ^latest pcb :P
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[22:22] <MrScienceMan> looks delicious, almost want to lick it
[22:23] <SpeedEvil> Tastes like lemons.
[22:24] <MrScienceMan> not the explosive ones ?
[22:25] <Laurenceb_> i thought that was a meme
[22:26] <Laurenceb_> but no, speedevil watches too much pr0n
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[23:12] <Laurenceb_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0bCpD0tx1iU
[23:14] <SpeedEvil> hawt
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