highaltitude.log.20120520

[00:00] <fsphil> bad Hibby, bad. what did they ever do to you? :)
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[00:00] <Lunar_Lander> why are thermometers bad?
[00:00] <fsphil> I didn't say that
[00:01] <Lunar_Lander> rephrasing
[00:01] <Lunar_Lander> why are thermometers not really useful?
[00:01] <fsphil> they're not terribly useful. we already know it's cold up there
[00:01] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[00:01] <Hibby> fsphil: have shitty documentation
[00:03] <Hibby> I was working on something, and actually found at the point of setting the registers that the chip I was using didn't support high frequency crystals
[00:04] <Hibby> which was problematic, as it wasn't me that spec'd the board it's being put on and now they all have to be remade because the documentation suggests it'll work until it hits bsctl3, not even the first bsctl register, when it just says "not supported on x boards"
[00:04] <Hibby> which is helpful, given the data sheet is ONLY FOR THAT SINGLE MODEL
[00:05] <Hibby> s/boards/model
[00:05] <fsphil> well that is pretty bad. abuse deserved then :)
[00:05] <Hibby> yeah
[00:05] <Hibby> "thanks TI" is one of my main phrases these days
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[00:08] <fsphil> you'll need a sarcasm box
[00:08] <fsphil> £1 each time
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[00:08] <fsphil> I've been thinking of getting one for our office
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[00:34] <griffonbot> @amradvictoria: RT @vk5gr: @amradvictoria: Listen for balloon from Mildura http://t.co/NEThdIzy visit http://t.co/eRQNi3in for info on this project #p ... [http://twitter.com/amradvictoria/status/204007067063820288]
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[01:30] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: http://t.co/438MxRmL Payload train laid out. #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/204021244075589634]
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[01:36] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: http://t.co/fCv0Q5AX Launch! #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/204022745003081728]
[01:37] <griffonbot> @marcoostini: RT @darksidelemm: http://t.co/438MxRmL Payload train laid out. #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/marcoostini/status/204023012230578176]
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[01:54] <Darkside> hearing it yet Michael_VK5ZEA ?
[01:54] <Michael_VK5ZEA> OK... I'm set up at home, ready to decode and upload!
[01:54] <Lunar_Lander> do we have an ascent Darkside ?
[01:54] <Darkside> its up
[01:54] <Michael_VK5ZEA> nothing yet
[01:55] <Darkside> 3.3km alt
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[01:56] <SpeedEvil> Darkside: woo!
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[01:56] <joe__> list
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[01:57] <SpeedEvil> joe__: Cheese, eggplant, velociraptor, love.
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[02:00] <Michael_VK5ZEA> I'm starting to hear the telemetry now.
[02:01] <Darkside> cool
[02:03] <Michael_VK5ZEA> I needs to get a 70cm Yagi up in the air at home I thinks.
[02:08] <vk2awj> I guess the blue circle is the radio footprint. What does the smaller green circle indicate?
[02:08] <Darkside> 5 degrees horizon
[02:08] <Darkside> where its 5 degrees above the horizon
[02:08] <vk2awj> Thanks
[02:10] <mlow> ohh darkside you have a load up?
[02:11] <mlow> very good a cutdown test?
[02:11] <mlow> goodie
[02:12] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: http://t.co/uW2ZRW2S On the move #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/204031750706442240]
[02:14] <Michael_VK5ZEA> still a little too noisy here to decode... i
[02:15] <mlow> wonder why the battery reads 0v
[02:15] <Darkside> its going up slowly Michael_VK5ZEA
[02:15] <Darkside> mlow: becaue this version of the micronut payload doesn't have a battery voltage tap
[02:15] <mlow> Ah
[02:16] <Darkside> Michael_VK5ZEA: you'reonly just in the radio horizon
[02:16] <mlow> micronut? :O
[02:16] <Darkside> :O
[02:16] <Darkside> lol
[02:16] <Michael_VK5ZEA> been hearing it in the noise for some time now... hopefully getting better soon.
[02:17] <Darkside> mlow: mlow http://rfhead.net/?p=470
[02:18] <mlow> love the solder station behind that, need one of those hakko
[02:19] <Darkside> hehe
[02:19] <griffonbot> @Mark_In_Geelong: RT @darksidelemm: http://t.co/fCv0Q5AX Launch! #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/Mark_In_Geelong/status/204033615640801281]
[02:19] <mlow> desperately
[02:20] <mlow> i have a radioshack firestarter
[02:20] <mlow> anyways, glad to hear everything going swimingly, 25 launches wowza
[02:20] <Darkside> we've been doing this for a while
[02:22] <NigeyMoby> weee
[02:24] <mlow> i cant find a source of ublox
[02:24] <Darkside> upu
[02:24] <Darkside> http://ava.upuaut.net/store
[02:24] <Michael_VK5ZEA> I think there is too much RF noisy junk at home that is killing me...
[02:25] <Darkside> it'll get better as it gets higher
[02:25] <mlow> wonder if they export...
[02:26] <mlow> Michael_VK5ZEA: what kind of antenna?
[02:26] <Darkside> upu will ship anywhere
[02:26] <mlow> wonder how well the dollar is doing...
[02:27] <mlow> hm so about 40usd for a max-6
[02:27] <mlow> paid $32 for my 12 channel gps with patch antenna
[02:27] <Michael_VK5ZEA> I've only got omni verticals at home... Diamond (something 2/70) and Discone antennas.
[02:27] <mlow> indoors? roof mounted?
[02:28] <griffonbot> @marcoostini: RT @darksidelemm: http://t.co/uW2ZRW2S On the move #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/marcoostini/status/204035726520750080]
[02:28] <Michael_VK5ZEA> all outdoors...
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[02:28] <mlow> hm
[02:29] <Darkside> morning VK5ZRL
[02:29] Nick change: Darkside -> Darkside_VK5QI
[02:29] <mlow> maybe not high enough agl to pick up strong
[02:29] <Darkside_VK5QI> mlow: he;s just inside the radio footprint
[02:30] <Michael_VK5ZEA> normally I set up field station with mast and Yagi, use a 706mk2G for this... but time constraints have prevented this!
[02:30] <Michael_VK5ZEA> It's my birthday and I went out for brunch with the family!
[02:30] <Darkside_VK5QI> aha!
[02:30] <Darkside_VK5QI> happy birthday Michael_VK5ZEA
[02:31] <mlow> ah
[02:31] <mlow> happy bday
[02:31] <Darkside_VK5QI> i'll see if i can get OSIRIS to say "happy birthday" for you
[02:31] <Darkside_VK5QI> :P
[02:31] <Michael_VK5ZEA> Not sure if the footprint will reach me from Mildura next week.
[02:32] <VK5ZRL> morning Darkside
[02:34] <Darkside_VK5QI> hi
[02:34] <Darkside_VK5QI> i see you're decoding :-)
[02:34] <vk2awj> The footprint has reached Gol Gol 8km east of Mildura - no RTTY yet
[02:36] <VK5ZRL> yep, watching the map with interest
[02:38] <VK5KX> Michael VK5ZEA, Happy birthday, are you tracking on 434.078MHz LSB??
[02:38] <vk2awj> I am hearing an intermittent tone, just a broken vertical line on the waterfall
[02:40] <Michael_VK5ZEA> I have no trouble seeing the idle tone, dl-fldigi picks it out of the noise no trouble, but it can't see the data.
[02:41] <VK5ZRL> try 434.075 USB Michael..Happy Birthday :-)
[02:43] <Michael_VK5ZEA> There is too much RF noise here... the urban environment is a b!tch for weak signal work... and using an IC-R10 doesn't help either.
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[02:44] <Michael_VK5ZEA> I've had a good birthday... got an Android tablet, new video card for my PC, Microsoft Office... a computer nerds birthday!!
[02:46] <vk2awj> I guess I am hearing the marker tone followed by a burst of data. Each lasts about 3 seconds. The waterfall display is just the alternating strips of yello
[02:46] <Michael_VK5ZEA> I get much better results at work... less RF noise there.
[02:47] <vk2awj> I meant a single strip of yellow
[02:55] <Darkside_VK5QI> dum de dum
[02:55] <Darkside_VK5QI> waiting at murray bbridge
[02:55] <VK5KX> It's getting closer to Michael
[02:55] <Darkside_VK5QI> i think we'll be here for a while
[02:58] <VK5KX> Darkside, can you provide confirmation of next weeks freq's for the Mildura repeater please, 147.500 or 144.650
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[03:05] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: http://t.co/5Y7ywvGG Waiting for the balloon... #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/204045224895455232]
[03:08] <vk2awj> Still unable to decode the short bursts of data. Using dl-fldigi 434.075 USB and positioning the red lines over the data.
[03:09] <VK5ZRL> vk2awj make sure rtty is set to 300 baud
[03:09] <vk2awj> Autoconfig -300/425
[03:11] <Darkside_VK5QI> that should be right
[03:11] <Darkside_VK5QI> well, we're bored
[03:11] <Darkside_VK5QI> sitting on the banks of the murray atm
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[03:13] <VK5ZEY> are you there VK5KX?
[03:13] <VK5KX> VK5ZEY, Yep, I'm here decoding Phil
[03:14] <VK5ZEY> I can hear it on FM :)
[03:14] <VK5ZEY> well a signal anyhow
[03:14] <Darkside_VK5QI> k
[03:14] <Darkside_VK5QI> Michael_VK5ZEA: check out the OSIRIS payload
[03:15] <VK5ZEY> its interesting how its done a 180
[03:15] <Darkside_VK5QI> we knew it would do that
[03:16] <VK5ZEY> where do you expect it to land?
[03:16] <Michael_VK5ZEA> Very nice... love it!
[03:16] <Darkside_VK5QI> wherever we well it to cut down
[03:16] <Darkside_VK5QI> tell*
[03:16] <Darkside_VK5QI> we'll cut it down once it passes by murray bridge i think
[03:16] <VK5ZEY> k
[03:16] <VK5ZEY> any vid onboard today?
[03:16] <Darkside_VK5QI> nah
[03:16] <Darkside_VK5QI> we should have though
[03:16] <Darkside_VK5QI> it was overcast in the morning
[03:16] <Darkside_VK5QI> but its nice anc clear here
[03:17] <VK5ZEY> would like to have watched it later on utube :)
[03:18] <VK5ZEY> ive noticed you have lost the signal KX?
[03:20] <VK5KX> I was still decoding when you posted that, but now it must have gone through an inversion layer, it's back now
[03:21] <VK5KX> Mark, did you see the Q at timestamp 12:28?
[03:25] <Darkside_VK5QI> no
[03:25] <Darkside_VK5QI> VK5KX: downlink 147.5 up 438.9
[03:25] <Darkside_VK5QI> 123CTCSS
[03:25] <VK5ZEY> just out of interest, I am receiving the signal on the handheld :)
[03:25] <Darkside_VK5QI> noice
[03:25] <Darkside_VK5QI> not surprised
[03:28] <VK5KX> Darkside VK5QI, thanks for the confirmation, 147.5 was on the WIA news and some were confused. will relay the freq.
[03:29] <Darkside_VK5QI> ok
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[04:03] <Darkside_VK5QI> going to be cutting it soon
[04:03] <Darkside_VK5QI> maybe 10 min away
[04:03] <vk2awj> Changed to HRD/DM780 set 300/425 and was able to decode. Not connected to the tracker server though
[04:03] <Darkside_VK5QI> yeah dont use that
[04:03] <Darkside_VK5QI> use dl-fldigi
[04:04] <vk2awj> dl-fldigi would not decode the data
[04:06] <vk2awj> Need to check the dl-fldigi software, but AutoConfig set to Horus
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[04:12] <VK5ZRL> vk2awj, are you using fl-digi HAB mode ?
[04:12] <vk2awj> Eureka - toggled the Rv Button
[04:12] <vk2awj> Yes HAB Mode
[04:14] <VK5ZEY> inside still rx on the handheld inside the house
[04:14] <Darkside_VK5QI> cutdown
[04:15] <vk2awj> Even the fields across the top of the display are filled in. The bearing was used to adjust the Azimuth on my rotator. Nearly at the 5 degree green circle
[04:16] <Darkside_VK5QI> well its on its way down
[04:17] <vk2awj> By parachute?
[04:17] <Darkside_VK5QI> yes, it has a parchute
[04:18] <vk2awj> I feel confident now when the Mildura Ballon goes up nexr week
[04:19] <Darkside_VK5QI> we know what we're doing :-)
[04:19] <VK5KX> That Rv button had me as well, I was decoding on 434.078 LSB, switched to 434.074.91 USB and activated the Rv button, viola it works there as well.
[04:19] <Darkside_VK5QI> heh
[04:20] <Darkside_VK5QI> it shouldn't need Rv if you're on USB
[04:20] <Darkside_VK5QI> i'm decoding on USB atm
[04:20] <Darkside_VK5QI> 434.07481
[04:21] <VK5KX> Yep, I'm on USB with the Rv button in the green, might have something to do with the Tigertronics Signalink USB??
[04:22] <Darkside_VK5QI> shouldn't be
[04:22] <Darkside_VK5QI> i'm using one
[04:22] <Darkside_VK5QI> you might be listening to a harmonic
[04:23] <vk2awj> I also use Signalink USB
[04:25] <VK5KX> whats the " Oh no ... not again" refer to??
[04:26] <vk2awj> I went to LSB 434.078, switched off REV and back decoding again
[04:27] <VK5KX> That's where I have been doing the decoding up until 10 mins ago :-)
[04:29] <griffonbot> @vk5fsck: Horus got just under 32,000 meter, and now on it way down #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/vk5fsck/status/204066347750141953]
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[04:33] <VK5ZEY> test
[04:35] <vk5akh> hi phil
[04:35] <VK5ZEY> g'day andy
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[04:35] <VK5ZEY> wish i had my 7000 now :)
[04:36] <vk2awj> Was the 2m/70cm repeater in operation this flight?
[04:36] <VK5ZEY> no
[04:36] <vk5akh> @5zey yes 7000 good for this kinds stuff
[04:37] <VK5ZEY> hard o get them atm for a good price
[04:38] <VK5ZEY> im just rx'ing on fm on the ic-2010
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[04:39] <vk5akh> keep up the good work Horus Team and all the listenrs catch you next time im off to play Hockey
[04:40] <VK5ZEY> cheers andy
[04:42] <VK5ZEY> there is a bit of confusion on what the dowlink freq will be next weekend. Can anyone advise?
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[04:47] <VK5KX> VK5ZEY 147.5
[04:48] <VK5ZEY> thats what i heard :)
[04:56] <Darkside_VK5QI> H2G2
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[05:05] <Darkside_VK5QI> waiting for it to land
[05:05] <VK5KX> I've lost tracking
[05:06] <Darkside_VK5QI> we haven't
[05:06] <Darkside_VK5QI> :P
[05:06] <Darkside_VK5QI> but we are losing 3g
[05:06] <VK5ZRL> still tracking here
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[05:22] <VK5ZRL> just lost tracking, signal too weak for decode, WELL DONE to the Horus team 73
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[05:39] <VK5KX> Well done guys,
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[06:11] <SamSilver> morning daveake
[06:12] <SamSilver> afk
[06:15] <daveake> morning
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[06:38] <daveake> Morning number10
[06:38] <number10> morning daveake
[06:38] <daveake> All ready?
[06:39] <number10> bit dull here - but as expected
[06:39] <number10> not yet - have to put radios and pc in car
[06:40] <number10> what time will you start making your payload ;)
[06:40] <daveake> Started 15 mins ago :p
[06:42] <number10> paint will still be wet
[06:46] <daveake> :)
[06:53] <number10> predictions dont look that good for me - I'll see what happens when wind data gets updated
[06:54] <Darkside_VK5QI> so yeah
[06:54] <Darkside_VK5QI> we got the payload back fine
[06:54] Nick change: Darkside_VK5QI -> Darkside
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[07:02] <number10> thats good Darkside
[07:05] <vk3bki> test
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[07:33] <Upu> morning
[07:33] <Upu> I'll sort tracker shortly
[07:34] <Upu> Darkside can I delete your track or shall I leave it there ?
[07:35] <Darkside> uhm you can wipe it if needed
[07:36] <daveake> morning Upu
[07:39] <Upu> well can leave it there
[07:39] <Upu> but more flights in about 4 hours
[07:39] <Upu> afk dog walk
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[07:50] <SamSilver> Darkside was the correct landing spot where the blue deloren was parked and the "twily wirly" track your formula messing with the lat : long?
[07:51] <Darkside> nope
[07:51] <Darkside> i never flew that
[07:51] <Darkside> the twirly wirly track was a result of the radar reflector steering the payload on the way down
[07:51] <Darkside> we have brilliant video of it
[07:51] <Darkside> but that won't be ready for upload for a few weeks
[07:53] <SamSilver> I see "oh no .... not again" was used
[07:54] <Darkside> yup
[07:54] <Darkside> oh wow
[07:55] <Darkside> VK5PJ tracked it right until landing
[07:55] <Darkside> we were out of 3g range there
[08:07] <Upu> why a few weeks Darkside ?
[08:17] <Darkside> busy next week
[08:17] <Upu> ok
[08:17] <Darkside> WIA AGM launcg
[08:17] <Darkside> our equiv of your RSGB
[08:17] <Upu> ok was about to ask
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[10:36] <edmoore> Sup
[10:37] <fsphil> all quiet on the hab front
[10:41] <number10_M0MDB> in car park just before EARS
[10:41] <number10_M0MDB> drizzle
[10:41] <edmoore> Nice
[10:42] <number10_M0MDB> not the best day for a launch
[10:42] <edmoore> No indeed
[10:42] <edmoore> What's the wind like?
[10:43] <number10_M0MDB> its a little windy - more than would like
[10:43] <number10_M0MDB> sill head off to elsworth now - rocketboy and daveake should be there about 12
[10:43] <edmoore> Cool
[10:43] <edmoore> Good luck
[10:43] <number10_M0MDB> cheers
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[11:02] <number10_M0MDB> all here at aars
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[11:05] <fsphil> the new pirate launch site
[11:06] <Hibby> haha
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[11:26] <daveake> Video should be livbe now - batc.tv --> 2E0UPU --> view
[11:28] <Darkside> aha
[11:28] <Darkside> it is
[11:28] <Darkside> awesome
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[12:15] <Upu> afternoon
[12:15] <G0DJA> Hi Upu
[12:16] Nick change: Upu -> Upu_2E0UPU
[12:16] <G0DJA> RX switched on and set up here ready to go
[12:16] <Upu_2E0UPU> can we remove your data from the tracker Darkside ?
[12:16] <cuddykid> Upu_2E0UPU: could you DM me your address when you get chance, so I can ship the bits & bobs up :) thanks!
[12:18] <number10_M0MDB> Upu_2E0UPU got your pcb on the payload
[12:18] <Darkside> Upu_2E0UPU: go for it
[12:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> excellent thanks try recover it so I can put Darkside's concerns to rest :)
[12:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> cheers Darkside
[12:19] <Darkside> Upu_2E0UPU: my concern is with multiple cycles
[12:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> yup
[12:19] <Darkside> i need to put one in a temp chamber for a few weeks
[12:19] <Darkside> and cycle it for ages
[12:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> cycle 1 on its way
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[12:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> well
[12:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> thats not happening as I don't have access to a temp chamber
[12:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> so best I can do is just keep launching it
[12:20] <Darkside> yeah i'll have to try it
[12:20] <Darkside> hmm
[12:21] <Darkside> thats a point
[12:21] <Darkside> i might add some stuff to the order you're shipping off on monday
[12:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok will be going on 1200 monday so get it in by then
[12:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> back in a sec
[12:22] <Darkside> k
[12:22] <daveake> Upu your test GPS is on #10's payload now
[12:23] <daveake> For prediction purposes, ANU details are: 1600g hwoyee, 5m/s, 38km expected/hoped for
[12:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> I'll go grab latest data
[12:27] <G0DJA> Is ANU 300 baud? Cant find any details other than for BUZZ on emails
[12:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> 50 baud
[12:27] <G0DJA> Thanks
[12:28] <daveake> All 3 50 baud. ANU first then BUZZ then XABEN
[12:32] <G0DJA> three ballons?
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[12:41] <cuddykid> Upu_2E0UPU: can't find all the components required for board, so don't worry about testing :) if you could just solder on ublox, sarantel and SD card holder that would be great!
[12:41] <cuddykid> shipping up the components
[12:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> which bits are missing ?
[12:41] <cuddykid> caps, and resistors
[12:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> I might have them already
[12:42] <cuddykid> I'll ship up everything I have here :)
[12:42] <Morseman> I've swapped to ANU as that appears to be 1st to go
[12:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok
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[12:45] <cuddykid> the v reg doesn't go in the usual way - I'll explain about that though when it arrives
[12:45] <cuddykid> apart from that, it should (hopefully) all be fine
[12:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> Steve on the phone t- 10 mins
[12:46] <cuddykid> great :D
[12:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> whats onsite dial frequency daveake ?
[12:46] <Elmar_PD3EM> they should have a cutboard on site to hold in front of the webcam ;-)
[12:46] <daveake> .648
[12:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> thanks
[12:46] <daveake> ABout to go now
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[12:50] <Morseman> ANU seems airbourne
[12:50] <Morseman> 434.648 I'm told for 1st launch
[12:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> not yet
[12:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> check altitude on spacenear.us/tracker
[12:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> ah
[12:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> it sup
[12:51] <daveake> gone
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[12:52] <Upu_2E0UPU> tune your dials gentlemen :)
[12:52] <number10_M0MDB> 434.6476 anu
[12:53] <number10_M0MDB> havent ran so far since 1976
[12:54] <Morseman> NU Just breaking through on RX now
[12:54] <Morseman> ANU
[12:54] <number10_M0MDB> great
[12:55] <Morseman> Hurray - 1st good decode already
[12:55] <fsphil> nice
[12:55] <Morseman> KNN and MDB beat me to it of course. ;-)
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[12:56] <number10_M0MDB> well I nearly didnt beat you morseman - my radio was not tuned in as it went up
[12:56] <Morseman> Glad to say all the DL-FLDigi boxes being popuated as well!
[12:57] <number10_M0MDB> thats good
[12:58] <Dutch-Mill> Hi All and a good afternoon what's ANU's frequency ?
[12:58] <Elmar_PD3EM> hi Dutch-Mill!
[12:59] <Morseman> 434.648.64 +1000Hz here Elmar
[12:59] <Dutch-Mill> Hi Elmar
[12:59] <Morseman> Sorry - Dutch-Mill
[12:59] <Dutch-Mill> oke thanks ...tune in..
[13:00] <Elmar_PD3EM> waiting for ANU to show up above the horizon....
[13:02] <Morseman> and Upu joins the ANU RX party ;-)
[13:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> just
[13:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> got some fantastic local QRM
[13:04] <Morseman> I may have to leave RX on auto nearly time to go swimming
[13:05] <Elmar_PD3EM> how's your project doing Dutch-Mill?
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[13:08] <Dutch-Mill> Good Elmar SDcard for the logging runs fine now... TinyGPS was the problem
[13:08] <G0DJA> Looks like BUZZ is nearly ready
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[13:09] <Elmar_PD3EM> Dutch-Mill: Great! Anything yet about a launch date?
[13:10] <Dutch-Mill> Nope... after the summer break is the planning
[13:10] <Dutch-Mill> plan
[13:11] <Elmar_PD3EM> might be the same here... need to design PCB and order balloon etc
[13:14] <Dutch-Mill> I'm trying to move my anttenna and rec to a beter location first.... @ the Zeetoren Hoek van Holland .... if they like it over there
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[13:15] <Elmar_PD3EM> Nice plan Dutch-Mill!
[13:16] <Elmar_PD3EM> Should have thought about that earlier...
[13:17] <Dutch-Mill> 25 meter above seelevel and and free sight over the North Sea.... it's a former German radarstation,,,
[13:17] <Elmar_PD3EM> well, I can do that on one of the next Sunday launches
[13:19] <Dutch-Mill> Oke i send them a mail
[13:20] <Dutch-Mill> Elar moor info: http://www.zeetoren.nl/zeetoren/de-zeetoren
[13:20] <Dutch-Mill> more
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[13:21] <Elmar_PD3EM> this can also be a nice spot to receive mobile: http://maps.google.nl/maps?daddr=51.98525,4.026035&hl=nl&sll=51.984801,4.028893&sspn=0.010599,0.022788&t=h&mra=mift&mrsp=1&sz=16&z=16
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[13:23] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[13:23] <Lunar_Lander> did anyone of you ever use RealTerm?
[13:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> Lunar_Lander sure you're feeling ok ?
[13:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> There is a launch on and your here!
[13:24] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[13:24] <Lunar_Lander> yeah just a short visit :P
[13:24] <Elmar_PD3EM> LOL! Hi LL
[13:25] <Lunar_Lander> XD Elmar_PD3EM
[13:25] <Lunar_Lander> I printed out your code and currently trying to understand it
[13:25] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[13:25] <daveake> that was fun
[13:25] <Lunar_Lander> hi dave
[13:25] <daveake> buzz up
[13:25] <Elmar_PD3EM> great
[13:25] <Lunar_Lander> daveake,
[13:25] <Lunar_Lander> guess who is here
[13:25] <Lunar_Lander> :D
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[13:25] <priyesh> daveake: got a freq for BUZZ?
[13:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> not cuddykid ?
[13:26] <daveake> .198
[13:26] <NigeyS> rfm dave ?
[13:26] <Lunar_Lander> xD Upu_2E0UPU
[13:26] <Lunar_Lander> anyways
[13:26] <Lunar_Lander> VirusTotal says in the new RealTerm is a trojan!!!
[13:27] <daveake> rfm yes
[13:27] <Elmar_PD3EM> Lunar_Lander: get ready for my balloon..... I'll sent it over when its ready ;-)
[13:27] <daveake> ceramic antenna
[13:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> Lunar launch in progress :)
[13:27] <daveake> 40g payload weight
[13:27] <NigeyS> ah chip antenna, nicey
[13:27] <vk5gr> darkside: check your e-mail - some toughts for Mildura
[13:27] <daveake> Lunar_Lander Are you an imposter?
[13:27] <G0DJA> BUZZ looks to be on its way
[13:28] <daveake> Launch was fun - rather gusty
[13:28] <Lunar_Lander> imposter?
[13:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> looked windy
[13:28] <Lunar_Lander> ah, no I am the real guy
[13:28] <Lunar_Lander> xD Elmar_PD3EM
[13:28] <Lunar_Lander> but
[13:28] <Lunar_Lander> VirusTotal says in the new RealTerm is a trojan!!!
[13:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> can you turn up the output level on HDSDR ?
[13:29] <daveake> I've seen handkerchiefs bigger than Steve's parachutre
[13:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[13:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> discuss later Lunar
[13:29] <G0DJA> Upu_2e0upu yes theres a slider in middle of the display above the record buttons
[13:30] <priyesh> daveake: got BUZZ from ApexLAB
[13:30] <priyesh> (london)
[13:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> thanks
[13:31] <daveake> cool
[13:31] <NigeyS> priyesh, u using that super antenna again mr? :P
[13:31] <Upu_2E0UPU> I don't think my antenna is up to it
[13:31] <priyesh> NigeyS: hehe.. yes
[13:31] <NigeyS> priyesh, so jealous!! lol
[13:31] <danielsaul> lol
[13:31] <priyesh> NigeyS: remote tracking is great... can sit at home without getting up
[13:32] <danielsaul> You should see how its mounted and the coax just strung down from the roof to a window...
[13:32] <fsphil> who's wrockets?
[13:32] <NigeyS> aye go on rub it on haha !
[13:32] <priyesh> or maybe not
[13:32] <NigeyS> in*
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[13:32] <NigeyS> danielsaul, really? :o
[13:32] <priyesh> NigeyS: it's not the best wiring i've seen
[13:32] <Lunar_Lander> hey priyesh NigeyS
[13:32] <NigeyS> haha crazy !
[13:32] <NigeyS> hi kev
[13:32] <danielsaul> We need to get premises staff to sort that priyesh
[13:34] <priyesh> perhaps... :P
[13:35] <danielsaul> We also need a way of remotely detaching the radio from the coax in storms :P
[13:36] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[13:37] <priyesh> prosthetic arm will do
[13:37] <NigeyS> hah
[13:37] <NigeyS> a robot
[13:37] <NigeyS> thats what ya need
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[13:39] <priyesh> is the stats page (http://habitat.habhub.org/stats/) working for anyone?
[13:39] <fsphil> what's anu's dial atm?
[13:39] <danielsaul> Stuck on loading
[13:39] <NigeyS> Something bad happened. Sorry :-(. Refreshing the page might help; no promises.
[13:39] <NigeyS> 504
[13:39] <priyesh> working now
[13:42] <griffonbot> @vk5gr: Monkey in space http://t.co/aqGtQyRb via @SunriseOn7 flight made possible tks to http://t.co/LhL2S5ic team in Adel-SA #ProjectHorus #sgvband [http://twitter.com/vk5gr/status/204205415792259072]
[13:42] <Morseman> ANU on 434.649.47 +1000Hz here
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[13:43] <Morseman> Cant get Rig to talk to PC at moment so will loose in drift when i go out :-(
[13:43] <fsphil> there's a carrier nearby there but I think it's local
[13:44] <fsphil> ah wait, I think I see it
[13:46] <Morseman> Now 434.649.89 here
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[13:46] <Morseman> 14867m up
[13:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> G0DJA http://i.imgur.com/T2iN1.jpg
[13:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> anything I can do in HDSDR to drag that signal out ?
[13:47] <fsphil> think I see it at 434648000+1632
[13:48] <fsphil> no that's not it
[13:48] <r2x0t> Upu_2E0UPU: try AGC slow, narrow the filter so it just fits RTTY
[13:49] <Upu_2E0UPU> trying
[13:49] <fsphil> fldigi has this annoying feature now where it never reduces the filter bandwidth if you switch to a lower baud rate
[13:50] <fsphil> ah, there be rtty
[13:50] <fsphil> shift is spot on
[13:51] <Lunar_Lander> will be back later
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[13:52] <fsphil> random rtty decode: {N=!D1E}
[13:52] <fsphil> new bond movie title? :)
[13:53] <Upu_2E0UPU> only if he's a MI6's nerdy programmer
[13:53] <fsphil> I think someone is doing voice on 434.650
[13:53] <fsphil> nuts
[13:54] <number10_M0MDB> thats unfortunate
[13:55] <fsphil> switching to fm, see if I can hear what it is
[13:55] <Upu_2E0UPU> I don't think there is enough signal to decode ANU
[13:55] <fsphil> there's no repeaters on that channel near here
[13:55] <Upu_2E0UPU> need the FCD on a better antenna I think
[13:56] <number10_M0MDB> is signal not too good there Upu_2E0UPU
[13:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> no fine on the main rig but I have the FCD on the car mag mount sat in the window
[13:56] <number10_M0MDB> rocketboy is filling now
[13:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> its not ideal :)
[13:57] <G0DJA> Upu_2e0upu try dragging the filter in a bit in lowe waterfall - grab one of the filter shirts and pull inwards
[13:57] <fsphil> I can hear the rtty now
[13:57] <number10_M0MDB> you need to track your ublox module thats taped on to of ANU ;)
[13:57] <fsphil> whoever was talking has stopped
[13:57] <number10_M0MDB> wind just really picked uphere
[13:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> G0DJA like this : http://i.imgur.com/QSJeu.jpg ?
[13:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol thanks number10_M0MDB :)
[13:58] <G0DJA> upu_2e0upu you might want to put the LO below the signal as well
[13:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> LO ?
[13:59] <G0DJA> Local Oscilator (the upper frequency)
[13:59] <fsphil> woo, partial decodes
[13:59] <G0DJA> Yes, that looks narrow enough :-)
[13:59] <Upu_2E0UPU> not sure I understand G0DJA
[14:00] <G0DJA> Tune is where you RX
[14:00] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh what does that do
[14:00] <G0DJA> LO is the Local Oscillator - usually have LO below the RX freq...
[14:00] <Upu_2E0UPU> how much below ?
[14:00] <r2x0t> you rx in SSB, so you see RX frq +0Hz .... +3KHz or so
[14:00] <r2x0t> then you have decoder at say 1KHz
[14:00] <r2x0t> center frequency
[14:00] <G0DJA> Put LO on something like 434.600 and click on the signal above the LO freq
[14:01] <G0DJA> r2x0t not quite the same thing in SDR...
[14:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok s LO is 434.600
[14:01] <G0DJA> Got to go...
[14:01] <r2x0t> so LO is where you tune your radio, then you add/sub offset depending on mode (LSB/USB)
[14:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> Tune doesn't work though does it ? I tune using the Funcube Dongle Controller
[14:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh I got one
[14:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> woo
[14:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> probably more to do with the altitude than the fiddling
[14:03] <fsphil> you're doing better than me atm :)
[14:04] <craag> YAY successful decode with rtlsdr :D
[14:04] <fsphil> the air must attenuate the signal quite a bit. if it was just the earth blocking it, it'd jump to full strength within a few minutes
[14:04] <fsphil> nice craag
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[14:05] <craag> Using the supplied dvb antenna stuck out my window as well, should be great on the co-linear.
[14:06] <daveake> ooop
[14:06] <daveake> XABEN off like a rocket
[14:06] <Upu_2E0UPU> daveake its not even on the map
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[14:09] <number10_M0MDB> can someone check flight doc
[14:10] <navrac> yaben?
[14:10] <number10_M0MDB> xaben
[14:11] <navrac> yep im uploading but nout on spacenear
[14:12] <number10_M0MDB> I think the document date may need changing if there is anyone arounf
[14:12] <priyesh> there aren't any valid XABEN docs
[14:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> best copy one and make it valid
[14:13] <navrac> its a good strong signal - even from a few hundred feet it was clear
[14:14] <gonzo_> buzz just disapeared
[14:15] <priyesh> same here
[14:15] <priyesh> buzz just went :/
[14:15] <priyesh> $$BUZZ,759,14:13:56,52.29473,-0.11229,1097,31,14,0,7,4.14*6006
[14:15] <daveake> noooo
[14:15] <priyesh> last string
[14:15] <gonzo_> just moved to anu for a few frames and nowt when I goy back
[14:15] <gonzo_> anyone hear it fgo?
[14:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> 759 my last one too
[14:18] <Upu_2E0UPU> stay on freq in case it comes back ?
[14:18] <gonzo_> just wondering if the sound as it went might give a clue
[14:19] <daveake> Probably rfm reset
[14:19] <daveake> Well, we're all off after ANU now
[14:19] <gonzo_> do you periodically reconfig it?
[14:20] <gonzo_> I'll keep popping baxk to .200 in case
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[14:20] <Lunar_Lander> back for a bit
[14:20] <daveake> cheers
[14:20] <r2x0t> xaben still not on map?
[14:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> no anyone hear it ?
[14:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.298 XABEN
[14:23] <gonzo_> -ve here (poole)
[14:24] <daveake> I'm uploading XABEN sentences
[14:25] <JFS1> Can hear Xaben (South London) but not a clear decode yet.
[14:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> being looked at daveake
[14:25] <daveake> cheers
[14:26] <daveake> Expired payload doc?
[14:26] <number10_M0MDB> what happend with buzz daveake? is sig totally gone?
[14:27] <daveake> Stopped altogether appaent;y
[14:27] <daveake> Possibly the rfm reset
[14:27] <number10_M0MDB> :(
[14:27] <daveake> Had enough volts
[14:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> http://i.imgur.com/ZJmh2.jpg USB powered Yagi ftw :)
[14:27] <number10_M0MDB> stange.
[14:28] <daveake> 39.1m/s is odd too!
[14:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> hmm 10km
[14:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> hit a plane ? :/
[14:29] <daveake> s/a/by
[14:29] <daveake> :p
[14:29] Action: Upu_2E0UPU goes and checks the news
[14:30] <daveake> :)
[14:33] <Elmar_PD3EM> no plane nearby at 10km at 14:14
[14:33] <Elmar_PD3EM> check playback on http://www.flightradar24.com/
[14:34] <priyesh> added xaben flight doc
[14:34] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok thanks to priyesh XABEN is now on the map
[14:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.300
[14:35] <daveake> Excellent, thanks
[14:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> if someone could keep having a hunt round for BUZZ
[14:37] <fsphil> anu's signal is quite low
[14:38] <Upu_2E0UPU> very strong here
[14:38] <Upu_2E0UPU> however on Yagi so not sure what it would be like on the colinear
[14:39] <fsphil> brb
[14:40] <Upu_2E0UPU> daveake are you still checking for BUZZ ?
[14:41] <gonzo_> ia xaben not registered?
[14:41] <gonzo_> still nada here in BUZZ
[14:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> it is now gonzo_
[14:42] <daveake> No but I'll check now and then
[14:42] <daveake> Live video back on from the chase car
[14:42] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok
[14:42] <gonzo_> rr
[14:42] <daveake> number10 in front
[14:42] <Upu_2E0UPU> very wierd to suddenly have such a high ascent rate
[14:42] <number10_M0MDB> lol
[14:42] <number10_M0MDB> dont show my behind
[14:42] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol streaming from the car
[14:42] <Upu_2E0UPU> ace
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[14:45] <daveake> ANU coming down
[14:46] <daveake> Or is that .....?
[14:46] <daveake> Daaaaave!
[14:46] <number10_M0MDB> oh now
[14:46] <daveake> Thought you'd fixed that!
[14:46] <number10_M0MDB> i changed that
[14:46] <gonzo_> if you point the cam up in a sec, will we see balloons?!
[14:46] <daveake> Not enough :)
[14:46] <r2x0t> lol 32768
[14:46] <daveake> You'll see clouds
[14:46] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[14:46] <daveake> lots of
[14:46] <Lunar_Lander> it burst right on time
[14:47] <Lunar_Lander> did you use the burst calc to get the burst for the predictor routine?
[14:47] <daveake> right on time r r r right on time
[14:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> did he not fix that
[14:47] <number10_M0MDB> i am sure I did unsigned
[14:47] Action: Upu_2E0UPU slaps number10
[14:47] <number10_M0MDB> maybe I didnt reprograme the second tracker
[14:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[14:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> :)
[14:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> its ok we can work it out
[14:47] <number10_M0MDB> I need to do some testing
[14:47] <daveake> You're probably using %d to format the string tho
[14:47] <Lunar_Lander> xD daveake is that a song?
[14:47] <number10_M0MDB> ah maybe dave
[14:48] <daveake> yes an annoying song
[14:48] <Lunar_Lander> WOOOW Altitude: -31815 m Rate: 6.2 m/s
[14:48] <daveake> Well it's still transmitting which is more than can be said for mine
[14:49] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[14:49] <Lunar_Lander> it is deeper than any object ever (deepest drilling so far was 12 km)
[14:49] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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[14:51] <number10_M0MDB> we are still decreasing in altitude so must be going up
[14:51] <daveake> :D
[14:52] <r2x0t> 24965m now
[14:52] <r2x0t> 34965m now
[14:52] <number10_M0MDB> cheers r2x0t - cant do the calscs in the car
[14:52] <gonzo_> drive slower, I can't read the road signs!
[14:52] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
[14:53] <number10_M0MDB> mrs 10 is driving
[14:53] <r2x0t> 35388m
[14:54] <r2x0t> 35938m
[14:55] <number10_M0MDB> I dont know why the predictor cant handle -ve numbers ;)
[14:55] <r2x0t> 36564m
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[14:57] <Upu_2E0UPU> if one of the habitat guys were about we could probably put a filtery thing on it
[14:57] <r2x0t> 37021m
[14:57] <Upu_2E0UPU> and correct it on the fly
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[14:57] <priyesh> could use a habitat hotfix filter
[14:57] <number10_M0MDB> I thinkk daveake is right I probably had two error signed and printf %d
[14:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> two fixes in one day priyesh ? :)
[14:58] Action: priyesh reads about filters quickly
[14:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
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[14:59] <r2x0t> 37548m
[14:59] <priyesh> habitat docs aren't finished :/
[14:59] <Lunar_Lander> where is 37 km?
[15:00] <r2x0t> ANU alt
[15:00] <priyesh> it'll burst before i submit the filter
[15:00] <priyesh> :P
[15:00] <r2x0t> 38047m
[15:00] <Lunar_Lander> here I see 27 km
[15:00] <Upu_2E0UPU> still broken all the way down to 32768meters though priyesh
[15:01] <priyesh> don't have access to futon :(
[15:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> never mind we can work it out
[15:02] <Upu_2E0UPU> thx for looking though
[15:02] <number10_M0MDB> thanks anyway - all slaps accepted
[15:02] <Upu_2E0UPU> over 38km anyway
[15:02] <priyesh> if you can find a doc with a filter as an example i can have a look
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[15:02] <priyesh> finding one without futon will be fun
[15:03] <r2x0t> 39060m
[15:03] <daveake> nice
[15:03] <priyesh> oh, actually
[15:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> 39k
[15:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> this got a camera on it number10_M0MDB ?
[15:04] <daveake> Yes A480
[15:04] <daveake> number10 what route you got planned?
[15:04] <r2x0t> 39500m
[15:05] <number10_M0MDB> maybe a47
[15:05] <number10_M0MDB> towards peter
[15:05] <daveake> ta
[15:05] <number10_M0MDB> and left up to ufford
[15:06] <Upu_2E0UPU> 40k
[15:06] <daveake> highest photos Mr10
[15:06] <Upu_2E0UPU> uh jumped the gun sorry is now
[15:06] <daveake> :*(
[15:06] <Upu_2E0UPU> yep 40k
[15:06] <number10_M0MDB> camera inside - hope it isworking had three attemps and two cameras when setting up for some reason#
[15:06] <r2x0t> 40051m
[15:06] <daveake> :)
[15:06] <daveake> Good show
[15:06] <number10_M0MDB> nice thanks
[15:06] <Upu_2E0UPU> rock solid transmission
[15:07] <Laurenceb_> whats going on
[15:07] <Laurenceb_> -25Km?!
[15:07] <Upu_2E0UPU> just some balloons
[15:07] <Upu_2E0UPU> indeed Laurenceb
[15:07] <r2x0t> 40333m
[15:07] <r2x0t> underground balloons!
[15:07] <number10_M0MDB> another error in my code Laurenceb
[15:07] <Laurenceb_> wrong datatype?
[15:08] <Laurenceb_> -25==+40?
[15:08] <daveake> %d not %u I think
[15:08] <Upu_2E0UPU> 40.5km
[15:08] <Laurenceb_> ah
[15:08] <number10_M0MDB> i changed the wrong data type - but it think did not have %ud
[15:08] <Upu_2E0UPU> with a camera
[15:08] <Laurenceb_> oh i see now
[15:08] <Laurenceb_> 16bit int not uint
[15:09] <r2x0t> 40686m
[15:09] <Laurenceb_> its got a way to go to beat the record now
[15:09] <r2x0t> rate slowing down
[15:09] <Laurenceb_> -ive float?
[15:09] <r2x0t> 40893m
[15:09] <Laurenceb_> :P
[15:10] <number10_M0MDB> dont need a float
[15:10] <number10_M0MDB> -ve float is what you call a sink
[15:10] <Laurenceb_> oh - already in the top 10
[15:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> 41km
[15:10] <Laurenceb_> well done
[15:10] <r2x0t> 41013m
[15:10] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[15:10] <Laurenceb_> 7th
[15:10] <Lunar_Lander> what balloon is at 41 km?
[15:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> ANU Lunar XD
[15:11] <Lunar_Lander> here it is at -24
[15:11] <r2x0t> 41077m
[15:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> ah you need to do some maths to work out where its at
[15:11] <Lunar_Lander> what do I need to do?
[15:11] <Laurenceb_> its a maths challenge
[15:11] <r2x0t> (-24402)&0xFFFF = 41134m
[15:11] <Laurenceb_> only ther mathematically giften can work out if its a record or not
[15:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> clue 32768
[15:12] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[15:12] <Laurenceb_> *gifted
[15:12] <priyesh> Upu_2E0UPU: can't submit a hotfix filter without a certificate
[15:12] <r2x0t> 41252m
[15:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok
[15:12] <priyesh> oh well, let's get our maths heads on
[15:12] <priyesh> :P
[15:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> thanks for trying priyesh
[15:12] <priyesh> https://github.com/ukhas/habitat/blob/develop/habitat/parser.py#L397
[15:12] <Laurenceb_> -23181 to beat CNSP
[15:13] <Laurenceb_> and get 2nd
[15:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> meanwhile Xaben sounds like its spinning
[15:13] <Laurenceb_> 1Km off
[15:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> ascent rate slowing
[15:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> bursty time
[15:14] <Lunar_Lander> it really burst?
[15:14] <r2x0t> no
[15:14] <number10_M0MDB> upu any chance you could run a prediction on burst for me ?
[15:14] <r2x0t> 41516m
[15:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> as soon as it bursts yes I'll do that
[15:14] <Randomskk> hm none of the existing filters solve this issue either
[15:15] <priyesh> Randomskk: yeah.. i've been reading habitat filter source code and the docs
[15:15] <priyesh> hotfix was the only thing which i thought could fix it
[15:15] <Randomskk> yea
[15:16] <Laurenceb_> did buzz die?
[15:16] <Randomskk> are we sure it's just (signed_number) & 0xFFFF?
[15:16] <r2x0t> 41703m
[15:16] <r2x0t> Randomskk: yes, if you first expand it to 32bit
[15:16] <Laurenceb_> 3rd place
[15:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> XABEN is having a rough old flight
[15:17] <Lunar_Lander> when I use wolframalpha and do 0xFFFF*(-23833) it says minus 1.5 million
[15:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> 41.8km
[15:17] <r2x0t> 41801m
[15:17] <Matt_soton> or just add 2^16
[15:17] <Matt_soton> (i might be 1 out)
[15:18] <r2x0t> Lunar_Lander: it's not * but AND bit operation
[15:18] <Upu_2E0UPU> there goes BUZZ 5's record
[15:18] <Randomskk> which payload is it?
[15:18] <r2x0t> 41909m
[15:18] <priyesh> Randomskk: ANU
[15:18] <Upu_2E0UPU> Camera payload...
[15:18] <Upu_2E0UPU> just about to top 42km
[15:19] <r2x0t> 42008m
[15:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> 42km
[15:19] <priyesh> :O
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[15:19] <Laurenceb_> 300m to go
[15:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> its not oscillating either
[15:19] <Lunar_Lander> r2x0t, ah, can wolframalpha do that?
[15:19] <Laurenceb_> to beat CNSP
[15:19] <Randomskk> added a filter
[15:19] <Randomskk> this might just break it of course
[15:19] <Laurenceb_> F5?
[15:20] <r2x0t> not updating now?
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[15:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> floaty floaty
[15:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> float
[15:20] <number10_M0MDB> sink sink
[15:20] <r2x0t> no, it's not updating anymore
[15:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> that may have broken it Randomskk
[15:21] <daveake> unbreak :)
[15:21] <Laurenceb_> quiiiick
[15:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> its floating don't worry
[15:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> actually decending very very slowly
[15:22] <Laurenceb_> what altitude?
[15:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> just about to drop below 42km
[15:22] <Laurenceb_> is it hydrogen?
[15:22] <r2x0t> 42003m
[15:22] <r2x0t> just updated
[15:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> its float/oscilating
[15:23] <Randomskk> filter doesn't seem to be working :P
[15:23] <priyesh> :P
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[15:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> up we go again
[15:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> getting a sense of de ja vu here
[15:23] <r2x0t> another way to calc would be: IF (X<0) X=65536-X
[15:24] <r2x0t> err IF (X<0) X=65536+X
[15:24] <r2x0t> because X is negative
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[15:24] <r2x0t> 42210m
[15:25] <r2x0t> going up again
[15:25] <Laurenceb_> ooh so close
[15:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> 397m from the record
[15:25] <Laurenceb_> needs to at least beat CNSP
[15:25] <r2x0t> 42323m
[15:26] <Randomskk> done it
[15:26] <Laurenceb_> ah its working correctly too
[15:26] <r2x0t> yes
[15:26] <r2x0t> good now
[15:26] <Laurenceb_> CNSP beaten
[15:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> nice
[15:26] <daveake> :D
[15:26] <Laurenceb_> 2nd place
[15:26] <r2x0t> muhaha rate 294.9m
[15:26] <Randomskk> forgot how to write filters for a second there >_>
[15:26] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[15:26] <Lunar_Lander> what was the 1st place again?
[15:26] <SpeedEvil> wow :)
[15:26] <Lunar_Lander> and do we fly H2?
[15:26] <number10_M0MDB> thanks fro trying Randomskk
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[15:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> 42687
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[15:27] <r2x0t> floating up and down
[15:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah Steve's did this a few weeks ago
[15:28] <daveake> I wish I was as good at beating records as I am at helping other people do it :D
[15:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> daveake somewhere up there BUZZ probably took it :/
[15:29] <number10_M0MDB> lol, thanks for the help daveake
[15:29] <daveake> Upu Probably :D
[15:30] <Lunar_Lander> current alt?
[15:30] <daveake> 42420
[15:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> 240meters from #1
[15:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> 193m
[15:30] <Lunar_Lander> awesome
[15:30] <r2x0t> 42513
[15:31] <Upu_2E0UPU> 160m
[15:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> burst ?
[15:32] <r2x0t> float
[15:32] <r2x0t> 42545
[15:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> burst
[15:32] <r2x0t> yes
[15:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> congrats number10_M0MDB
[15:32] <r2x0t> -66.2m
[15:32] <Laurenceb_> 2nd place
[15:32] <daveake> burst yes
[15:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> 160m from the world record with a camera
[15:32] <NickB1> congrats!
[15:32] <daveake> Well done #10
[15:33] <Laurenceb_> well done
[15:33] <daveake> Or should I say, Number2 :p
[15:33] <Randomskk> gutted that you didn't get another 160m though :P
[15:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[15:33] <Laurenceb_> hope the photos come out well
[15:33] <daveake> Yep
[15:33] <daveake> OK need a landing prediction when you can :)
[15:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> right lets see what the reigning champion can pull out
[15:33] <daveake> :D
[15:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> sure running it now
[15:33] <Laurenceb_> what happened to BUZZ?
[15:33] <Laurenceb_> dies?
[15:33] <daveake> ta
[15:33] <daveake> died
[15:33] <Laurenceb_> :(
[15:34] <Laurenceb_> does xaben have a camera?
[15:34] <gonzo_> have was on BUZZ?
[15:34] <daveake> Possibly power/rfm22/reset issue
[15:34] <number10_M0MDB> me too i was having probs - with two camera
[15:34] <daveake> XABEN no
[15:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> daveake
[15:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> Park Street PE8 6XN
[15:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=95126264e227e0c275e8d7a2308ee918fb8fd61f
[15:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> don't actually go there as thats the Arabesque School of Dance but should put you in the right area
[15:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> A47
[15:36] <daveake> lol
[15:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> 1km from RAF Wittering
[15:37] <daveake> :)
[15:37] <NickB1> Upu_2E0UPU , got the MAX-6 working on the new board
[15:37] <gonzo_> belly dancing, could be fun
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> really descending?
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> hello NickB1 !
[15:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> cool NickB1
[15:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> afternoon :)
[15:37] <NickB1> afternoon
[15:37] <NickB1> hi Lunar
[15:38] <NickB1> had a small solder bridge from the tx pin to the chassis :)
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[15:38] <daveake> Who's impersonating Lunar?
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> ohh what happened?
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> me, Kevin
[15:38] <daveake> You're here during a flight!
[15:38] <NickB1> some time passes till I figured it out :D
[15:38] <NickB1> all ok now
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> NickB1, and what did that effect then?
[15:39] <NickB1> it pulled the tx pin from the gps to gnd
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[15:39] <NickB1> so it couldnt send anything
[15:40] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[15:40] <Lunar_Lander> that happened on the flight?
[15:40] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[15:41] <NickB1> no no :D
[15:41] <NickB1> working on a new board
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> ah xD
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> the standalone one with the CPU onboard
[15:42] <NickB1> yes indeed
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> which colour?
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[15:42] <NickB1> haha
[15:42] <NickB1> plain green
[15:43] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[15:44] <Lunar_Lander> did I tell you that I finally got my geiger?
[15:44] <NickB1> ah great
[15:44] <NickB1> one of the last ones ?
[15:45] <Lunar_Lander> I ordered at the end of march
[15:45] <Lunar_Lander> it took so long in mail and custons
[15:45] <Lunar_Lander> customs
[15:46] <NickB1> thats a long time
[15:46] <NickB1> now for some fun assembling it :)
[15:47] <NickB1> have to go
[15:47] <NickB1> bye all
[15:47] <NickB1> good luck recovering
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[15:48] <Lunar_Lander> oh no!
[15:48] <Lunar_Lander> I wanted to tell him that I already assembled it
[15:49] <JFS1> Is Buzz back?
[15:49] <fsphil> receiving buzz
[15:49] <Upu_2E0UPU> BUZZ Lives
[15:49] <fsphil> 434.200
[15:49] <Lunar_Lander> YAY
[15:49] <r2x0t> 37121m nice
[15:49] <fsphil> well, 434.199
[15:50] <daveake> Number10 says his jammer must have stopped
[15:50] <fsphil> lol
[15:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> haha
[15:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> what was he doing sitting there with an Audi keyfob going lock unlock lock unlock
[15:51] <fsphil> nice dual tracking Upu_2E0UPU
[15:51] <JFS1> If Buzz gets jammed again as soon as he passes 42km I'd start having suspicions.
[15:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh guys
[15:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> can we get someone else on XABEN pls
[15:52] <priyesh> Upu_2E0UPU: i'll move apex onto it
[15:52] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[15:52] <Upu_2E0UPU> thanks
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[15:52] <fsphil> tracking xaben
[15:53] <fsphil> I can only do one at a time
[15:53] <Upu_2E0UPU> as soon as you loose ANU if you could switch to BUZZ
[15:53] <Upu_2E0UPU> I'd stick with BUZZ for the moment fsphil
[15:53] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh its ok
[15:53] <fsphil> will do
[15:53] <Upu_2E0UPU> thats a nice spread
[15:54] <fsphil> these are only 100khz apart, just out of reach of the funcube dongle
[15:54] <priyesh> moved
[15:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> well yup I went for XABEN on the FCD and found BUZZ
[15:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> I thought it was XABEN tbh
[15:55] <fsphil> so did I
[15:55] <fsphil> I read the title wrong, tuned to 434.2 by mistake
[15:55] <r2x0t> ANU flying in completely opposite direction from prediction
[15:55] <fsphil> found a very fuzzy looking rtty signal
[15:55] <fsphil> but it's cleared up since then
[15:55] <fsphil> weird
[15:55] <fsphil> there might still be a radio fault
[15:56] <daveake> Think we need to move! It's 21km away
[15:56] <Laurenceb_> hope anu avoids those ponds
[15:56] <r2x0t> it will still turn to the east
[15:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> its not following the prediction daveake but I'd still stay put
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[15:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> should swing round
[15:56] <r2x0t> winds changed little bit
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[15:58] <fsphil> coming up on the 40km
[15:59] <fsphil> there we go
[15:59] <r2x0t> buzz 40069m
[16:00] <r2x0t> ANU finally turned west
[16:03] <fsphil> buzz at 41km
[16:04] <fsphil> lovely steady signal
[16:04] <fsphil> almost no drift at all
[16:05] <Laurenceb_> does buzz have a camera?
[16:05] <r2x0t> 41503m
[16:06] <fsphil> er
[16:06] <fsphil> gps stuck?
[16:06] <fsphil> ah going again
[16:06] <r2x0t> 41730m
[16:07] <fsphil> ascent rate still good
[16:07] <r2x0t> also ANU turned south... time to move
[16:07] <fsphil> buzz at 42km (more or less)
[16:08] <fsphil> that's just silly
[16:08] <r2x0t> 41998 :)
[16:08] <fsphil> 42km
[16:08] <G0DJA> Back again
[16:08] <fsphil> nobody even needs to go that high :)
[16:08] <WillDuckworth> Buzz is going to infinity...
[16:08] <r2x0t> also XABEN is fast, 39321m now
[16:09] <fsphil> and habyond
[16:09] <fsphil> no that doesn't work
[16:09] <fsphil> nevermind
[16:09] <fsphil> altitude 0?
[16:09] <fsphil> that was odd
[16:09] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[16:09] <r2x0t> 42231m
[16:09] <Laurenceb_> its spoofing the altitude
[16:10] <Laurenceb_> its actually in a car
[16:10] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL
[16:10] <fsphil> and again
[16:10] <Laurenceb_> oh - 0 sats
[16:10] <Laurenceb_> gps is dropping out
[16:10] <Laurenceb_> ublox?
[16:10] <fsphil> 42.363
[16:11] <fsphil> very likely
[16:11] <Laurenceb_> CNSP utterly owned
[16:11] <fsphil> 42.4
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[16:11] <fsphil> almost overtaking anu
[16:11] <r2x0t> 42421
[16:12] <fsphil> dup again
[16:12] <fsphil> and a drop
[16:12] <G0DJA> Everything seems to be avoiding Peterborough (built in AI ?)
[16:12] <Laurenceb_> Rocketboy is on the ground with a powerful laser
[16:13] <fsphil> gps is stuck again
[16:13] <Laurenceb_> to pop it
[16:13] <fsphil> 42418
[16:13] <fsphil> this is annoying
[16:13] <Laurenceb_> lol
[16:13] <fsphil> c'mon, update
[16:13] <Lunar_Lander> float achieved
[16:13] <fsphil> gps failure isn't really a float :)
[16:14] <Laurenceb_> anu looks like it avoided the ponds :P
[16:14] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[16:14] <Laurenceb_> xaben about to overtake
[16:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> XABEN Just died
[16:14] <fsphil> !!
[16:14] <priyesh> XABEN just went
[16:14] <fsphil> it can't
[16:14] <priyesh> i've only got a carrier
[16:14] <fsphil> I didn't give it permission to die
[16:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> me too
[16:15] <fsphil> we can't have two failed payloads right at their apex
[16:15] <fsphil> buzz is back
[16:15] <r2x0t> BUZZ 42670
[16:15] <Upu_2E0UPU> woah
[16:15] <fsphil> and still ascending!!
[16:15] <Laurenceb_> come back xaben :/
[16:15] <gonzo_> XABEN hung on a carrier
[16:15] <Upu_2E0UPU> he got the record
[16:15] <fsphil> +111one
[16:15] <gonzo_> ah, old news
[16:16] <Laurenceb_> omg
[16:16] <Laurenceb_> buzz takes world record
[16:16] <Lunar_Lander> YAY BUZZ new record?
[16:16] <fsphil> descending a bit again
[16:16] <JFS1> Congrats Dave!
[16:16] <fsphil> it's doing that wobbly thing
[16:16] <r2x0t> 42696...
[16:17] <fsphil> 42.7
[16:17] <fsphil> 42709
[16:17] <fsphil> c'mon lil buzz
[16:17] <fsphil> 42714
[16:17] <fsphil> 00000
[16:17] <fsphil> bah
[16:17] <fsphil> bad buzz
[16:17] <JFS1> Touchdown for Anu
[16:17] <Laurenceb_> ooh xaben back
[16:17] <Laurenceb_> this is nerve wracking
[16:17] <fsphil> 42726
[16:17] <Laurenceb_> who will take the record ?!
[16:17] <r2x0t> nice ANU touchdown... no trees there
[16:18] <fsphil> 42743
[16:18] <fsphil> a proper race this :)
[16:18] <fsphil> the near-space race
[16:18] <r2x0t> 42772
[16:18] <fsphil> 42801
[16:18] <daveake> turn around ....
[16:19] <daveake> me, not buzz
[16:19] <fsphil> using anti-helium I think
[16:20] <fsphil> bouncing again
[16:20] <Laurenceb_> xaben dead again?
[16:20] <WillDuckworth> wont be long now i reckon
[16:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> all I see is carrier
[16:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> so not technically dead
[16:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh
[16:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> back ?
[16:21] <fsphil> going back up
[16:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> its back
[16:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> keep getting bursts from XABEN
[16:21] <fsphil> 42853
[16:22] <fsphil> 865
[16:22] <fsphil> could this get 43km?
[16:22] <Lunar_Lander> that would be cool
[16:22] <Lunar_Lander> balloon specs for the three flights?
[16:22] <fsphil> 42888
[16:22] <gonzo_> bursts or packets? !!
[16:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> bursts of data
[16:22] <fsphil> 42913
[16:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> just carrier atm
[16:23] <fsphil> floating again
[16:23] <jonsowman> anyone using an rtl-sdr to track this?
[16:23] <fsphil> craag is I think
[16:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> XABEN burst
[16:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> just went wobbly
[16:24] <fsphil> 42913
[16:24] <fsphil> I think buzz will follow it shortly
[16:24] <navrac> 933
[16:24] <fsphil> in saying that...
[16:25] <r2x0t> 43k... let's do it!
[16:25] <fsphil> going down again
[16:25] <r2x0t> just floating around
[16:25] <fsphil> and back up
[16:25] <navrac> 992!
[16:25] <fsphil> 42992
[16:25] <fsphil> lol
[16:25] <r2x0t> haha
[16:25] <fsphil> just... a bit ..,. more
[16:25] <navrac> 43
[16:25] <fsphil> 43004
[16:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> 43k
[16:25] <navrac> done ity
[16:25] <fsphil> holy crap
[16:25] <r2x0t> yay
[16:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> XABEN back
[16:25] <Lunar_Lander> YAY
[16:26] <r2x0t> luck coated balloons
[16:26] <Laurenceb_> wow
[16:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> F?CK
[16:26] <fsphil> lol
[16:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> XABEN
[16:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> 43721
[16:26] <SpeedEvil> :)
[16:26] <fsphil> what?
[16:26] <priyesh> :O
[16:26] <jonsowman> wow
[16:26] <Laurenceb_> holy shit
[16:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> no
[16:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> sorry
[16:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol RTTY
[16:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> invalid string sorry
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[16:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> its coming down
[16:26] <Lunar_Lander> ?
[16:26] <fsphil> lol
[16:26] <priyesh> haha
[16:26] <Lunar_Lander> the max alt on XABEN is wrong?
[16:26] <fsphil> he using 8-bit checksums?
[16:26] <G0DJA> That XABEN height looks a bit dodgy...
[16:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> $$$$$$XABEN,472,16:21:07,52.49425,-0.31204,43721,0.0,0.00,Descending*CECF
[16:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> :)
[16:27] <fsphil> ah, odd of that having a valid checksum are pretty remote
[16:27] <Laurenceb_> did more than one person get it?
[16:27] <fsphil> 43020
[16:27] <r2x0t> 43036max so far
[16:27] <navrac> sorry - tuned to buzz when it went to carrier
[16:27] <fsphil> goig back up again
[16:27] <fsphil> and down...
[16:27] <Elmar_PD3EM> wow! 43k!! Congrats!!
[16:27] <fsphil> I'm getting dizzy
[16:28] <fsphil> 43km exactly
[16:28] <Laurenceb_> ah looks at xaben descent
[16:28] <Laurenceb_> it looks like it wasnt correct
[16:28] <fsphil> and back up again
[16:28] <SpeedEvil> Is this #1 now?
[16:28] <Laurenceb_> descent was too fast at start
[16:28] <fsphil> very #1
[16:28] <SpeedEvil> :)
[16:28] <Laurenceb_> Buzz is yes
[16:28] <fsphil> 00000
[16:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> G8KNN-Jon if you're about could you jump across to XABEN pls 434.301 thanks
[16:28] <Laurenceb_> we'll have to review the xaben data later
[16:28] <fsphil> 42997
[16:28] <Laurenceb_> ?
[16:28] Action: SpeedEvil intones '43km, the final frontier'
[16:29] <r2x0t> going down
[16:29] <SpeedEvil> What payload weight is this?
[16:29] <fsphil> 43003
[16:29] <r2x0t> or not
[16:29] <fsphil> going back up
[16:29] <Lunar_Lander> xD BUZZ rate was 500 m/s
[16:29] <r2x0t> bad tlm
[16:29] <fsphil> it's been doing this for a while
[16:29] <fsphil> payload altitude normally does this near the balloons limits
[16:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> we could do with some of the closer stations on XABEN pls
[16:30] <SpeedEvil> If this was a hair further north - it would be audible over the whole UK.
[16:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> ah thats better
[16:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> thanks G8KNN-Jon
[16:30] <navrac> ok tuning
[16:31] <fsphil> buzz dropping fairly quickly there
[16:31] <Laurenceb_> so was xaben invalid or what?
[16:32] <fsphil> yea that was invalid
[16:32] <Laurenceb_> werent there 2 packets at that altitude?
[16:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah sorry
[16:32] <Laurenceb_> 8bit checksum?
[16:32] <fsphil> fooled the 16-bit checksum
[16:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> I got overly excited
[16:32] <Laurenceb_> fair enough
[16:32] <Laurenceb_> we could extropolate from the packets we did get
[16:33] <Laurenceb_> looking at the graph it looked about 1km below
[16:33] <Laurenceb_> 42.7 or so
[16:33] <daveake> ok live video of the walk to the payload coming ...
[16:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> The burst poing was marked
[16:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> point
[16:33] <fsphil> buzz goig back up again
[16:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> in these logs
[16:33] <Laurenceb_> yeah, gnuplot the logs :P
[16:33] <Randomskk> there was a packet that was invalid but had a valid checksum?
[16:33] <fsphil> buzz goes up, buzz goes down ... (repeat)
[16:33] <Randomskk> every sodding record launch and I miss tracking it
[16:33] <r2x0t> buzz is just buzzing up there
[16:34] <navrac> its showing off
[16:34] <Upu_2E0UPU> passed my brain check sum Randomskk (i.e it look ok) but failed actual proper checksum
[16:34] <Laurenceb_> not in the resevoir :-S
[16:34] <Randomskk> oh right
[16:34] <Randomskk> ok
[16:34] <fsphil> above 43km again
[16:34] <r2x0t> yes, again going up
[16:34] <priyesh> how was it posted to habitat?
[16:34] <priyesh> doesn't the transition tool check the checksum?
[16:34] <gonzo_> xaben back temlem
[16:35] <fsphil> and pushing the record again
[16:35] <r2x0t> yeah
[16:35] <fsphil> 43050
[16:35] <gonzo_> and coming down
[16:35] <gonzo_> xaben coming down that was
[16:35] <r2x0t> 43059
[16:35] <fsphil> 069
[16:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh good point sorry I didn't notice it had posted the packet
[16:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> wierd
[16:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> have fun sorting that one out
[16:36] <Randomskk> habitat checks the checksum
[16:36] <Randomskk> for sure
[16:36] <Hibby> dat graph
[16:36] <priyesh> Upu_2E0UPU: how was it posted?
[16:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> from me
[16:36] <priyesh> hmm
[16:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> via dl-fldigi
[16:36] <Randomskk> sentence?
[16:36] <priyesh> odd
[16:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> $$$$$$XABEN,472,16:21:07,52.49425,-0.31204,43721,0.0,0.00,Descending*CECF
[16:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> unless it was a valid packet
[16:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> need to go afk for a bit
[16:37] <fsphil> it must be valid if dl-fldigi passed it
[16:37] <fsphil> oh no wait it doesn't
[16:37] <Randomskk> that's a valid checksum
[16:37] <Randomskk> ...
[16:37] <fsphil> either the program read it from the gps wrong
[16:38] <fsphil> or a 65536 to 1 chance of it being a false postive :)
[16:38] <r2x0t> 43721 is crazy
[16:38] <Randomskk> I don't think those are the odds
[16:38] <Randomskk> the packet looks entirely properly formatted
[16:38] <fsphil> probably not
[16:39] <Randomskk> if it was meant to be 43021 that's three bits in error
[16:39] <Randomskk> I think the odds are very good that the payload transmitted 43721
[16:39] <fsphil> yea
[16:39] <priyesh> also look at the packets around it
[16:39] <fsphil> much more likely
[16:39] <Randomskk> what caused that I don't know
[16:39] <priyesh> there's the possibility it is correct
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[16:40] <Randomskk> yes
[16:40] <Randomskk> there is
[16:40] <fsphil> 43106m
[16:40] <fsphil> (buzz)
[16:40] <Elmar_PD3EM> btw: a nice walk for the ANU chasers
[16:40] <priyesh> http://pastie.org/3940615
[16:40] <navrac> we need to look at th timing and previous readings to see if it was possible
[16:40] <jackclark> How'd it go daveake?
[16:40] <priyesh> the timing is plausible
[16:41] <Morseman> Is XABEN really coming down at 12m/s ?
[16:41] <navrac> balloon tangled in chute?
[16:41] <priyesh> 1333m up in 4 minutes
[16:41] <priyesh> 5.6m/s
[16:42] <Randomskk> so
[16:42] <navrac> well it was climbing at that sort of rate on the previous packets
[16:42] <Randomskk> the two packets before that one give an ascent rate of 5.25
[16:42] <fsphil> that's possible then
[16:42] <Randomskk> in other words if it maintained that ascent rate then the altitude is entirely believable
[16:42] <Randomskk> and given as the checksum was valid
[16:43] <Randomskk> it seems entirely plausible that it really did get 43721
[16:43] <G0DJA> How close will BUZZ get to me I wonder?
[16:44] <fsphil> at this rate, I wonder how close it will get to me too :)
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[16:47] <fsphil> annoyingly I have to go and eat shortly
[16:47] <fsphil> can we pause the launch?
[16:48] <Randomskk> :P
[16:48] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[16:48] <cuddykid> nice daveake!
[16:48] <cuddykid> coming up my way :D
[16:49] <daveake> anu recovered
[16:49] <fsphil> 43187
[16:49] <Randomskk> nice
[16:49] <fsphil> nice work
[16:49] <fsphil> 43195
[16:49] <Randomskk> what balloons/gas are these two ridiculous payloads doing? :P
[16:49] <r2x0t> nice video stream
[16:49] <r2x0t> walked right into it
[16:50] <daveake> yeah video a bit slow (here anyway
[16:50] <navrac> lost terlem on xaben
[16:50] <navrac> just carrier
[16:50] <Lunar_Lander> yeah what balloons were used?
[16:50] <x-f> daveake, it's way better than just text updates :)
[16:50] <fsphil> buzz's signal is slowly getting weaker here
[16:51] <fsphil> 2dB
[16:51] <navrac> xaben back
[16:52] <Lunar_Lander> yeah what balloons were used?
[16:52] <daveake> x-f yep!
[16:52] <Lunar_Lander> and what gas
[16:52] <Lunar_Lander> I'll repeat that question all the time XD
[16:52] <fsphil> we'll give you the PBH answer :p
[16:52] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[16:52] <navrac> from memory 100g hw h2
[16:52] <r2x0t> lol
[16:53] <gonzo_> lost xaben now, too weak.
[16:53] <fsphil> right, I'm going to eat. someone interesting always happens just after I leave
[16:54] <fsphil> 43204
[16:54] <fsphil> see, it's going up
[16:54] <fsphil> and I was only half way across the room
[16:54] <fsphil> 43217
[16:54] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[16:54] <fsphil> 236
[16:54] <Lunar_Lander> well people
[16:54] <fsphil> the other rocket must have fired
[16:54] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[16:54] <fsphil> ah crap, was I meant to talk about the rockets?
[16:54] <fsphil> 255
[16:54] <Lunar_Lander> I quite like that 50000 you can see on the altitude graph
[16:54] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[16:55] <fsphil> 263
[16:55] <fsphil> 50km is possible
[16:55] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[16:55] <fsphil> the japanese have shown that
[16:55] <Lunar_Lander> XD yea the 53
[16:55] <fsphil> 273
[16:55] <Lunar_Lander> 48 was possible already in 1968
[16:56] <fsphil> ok, descending again
[16:56] Action: fsphil goes for food.. again
[16:56] <daveake> ok back to the batmobiles
[16:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> someone told BUZZ it's done it can come back now ?
[16:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> located daveake ?
[16:56] <daveake> yes I said
[16:56] <daveake> ANU back in 1 piece
[16:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> I just got back
[16:56] <daveake> Camera still running
[16:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> super
[16:56] <G0DJA> When it goes over Melton Mowbray can we say it is "Way up pie" ?
[16:56] <daveake> lol
[16:56] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[16:56] <r2x0t> BUZZ saw highest packet from XABEN and now it's not going down until it gets higher than that :)
[16:57] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL
[16:57] <Lunar_Lander> r2x0t, can you see the Vaisala sounding results btw?
[16:57] <Lunar_Lander> or does one need the vaisala receiver
[16:57] <r2x0t> if you mean proper calibrated results, yes
[16:57] <fsphil> signal down to 0dB
[16:57] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[16:57] <r2x0t> sondemonitor does that
[16:57] <Lunar_Lander> because the GPS from Vaisala isn't the normal one but a doppler one
[16:58] <Lunar_Lander> and that needs that DigiCORA receiver
[16:58] <r2x0t> yes, you need RINEX data for it to work etc.
[16:58] <Lunar_Lander> I read
[16:58] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[16:58] <Lunar_Lander> how high do they go?
[16:58] <Lunar_Lander> is there a record as well?
[16:58] <r2x0t> depends, highest I saw was 40km
[16:58] <r2x0t> but most of the time 32km or so
[16:59] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:59] <Lunar_Lander> I wonder where you can buy the RS-92
[16:59] <Lunar_Lander> on the lake constance flight 2010 they had a RS-92 onboard in a custom stryofoam box
[16:59] <r2x0t> cheapest is just to find it... but hard to do if they are not launching them around you
[16:59] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[17:00] <Lunar_Lander> but aren't they unusable after landing?
[17:00] <r2x0t> not officially
[17:00] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[17:00] <r2x0t> they say it would not perform as designed and blah blah
[17:00] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[17:00] <r2x0t> but you can recalibrate sonde that was already flown on Vaisala ground checker machine
[17:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> I'd say XABEN got the record, but depends how Steve's code works
[17:01] <r2x0t> and fly it again
[17:01] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[17:01] <fsphil> 433
[17:01] <priyesh> 43318
[17:01] <Lunar_Lander> where can one get that base machine?
[17:01] <Lunar_Lander> WOW
[17:01] <priyesh> buzz isn't leaving without a fight
[17:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> note the time I said [17:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> XABEN burst
[17:01] <r2x0t> Lunar_Lander: part of DigiCORA
[17:01] <fsphil> it's shooting up
[17:01] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[17:01] <Lunar_Lander> really expensive I assume?
[17:01] <r2x0t> yeah
[17:01] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[17:01] <fsphil> 43392
[17:02] <r2x0t> BUZZ is at it again!
[17:02] <fsphil> and descending...
[17:02] <Upu_2E0UPU> Well unofficially 43721 to beat
[17:02] <fsphil> I can't go and eat while this is happening
[17:02] <Elmar_PD3EM> some nasty weather is getting closer.... http://yfrog.com/klgqpurj almost time to unplug the antennas
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> I almost read
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> Waltham on the Worlds
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[17:02] <fsphil> ooh exciting Elmar_PD3EM
[17:02] <fsphil> wish I was there
[17:02] <r2x0t> also XABEN landing soon
[17:04] <r2x0t> in the middle of houses
[17:04] <Elmar_PD3EM> i like it fsphil :-) but it's not good for the rigs.... continuous statics now
[17:04] <fsphil> ok, going now. really this time
[17:04] <cuddykid> lol
[17:04] <cuddykid> going to land on top of a house :S
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[17:05] <gonzo_> house or tree?!
[17:05] <cuddykid> house
[17:05] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[17:05] <r2x0t> lol... choose your poison
[17:05] <Lunar_Lander> blue is the visual horizon?
[17:05] <r2x0t> yes
[17:05] <Lunar_Lander> that means BUZZ can see behind my house!
[17:06] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[17:06] <gonzo_> well, there is no sea near, so we can't use dave's track record to forecast!
[17:06] <cuddykid> buzz might actually fly overhead.. in notts atm
[17:07] <Elmar_PD3EM> there's a strange thing on spacenear.is with the blue circle......
[17:07] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[17:07] <r2x0t> yes, it deforms depending on how you pan the map when it's unzoomed
[17:07] <Elmar_PD3EM> whem moving the map more to the north, the circle is getting bigger.....
[17:07] <gonzo_> buzz can pick up a pork pie on the way
[17:07] <SpeedEvil> Elmar_PD3EM: that's correct
[17:08] <SpeedEvil> Elmar_PD3EM: It's a projection oddity
[17:08] <G0DJA> Never mind see my house Lunar_Lander it may even land *on* my house at this rate...
[17:08] <Elmar_PD3EM> ok. ;-)
[17:08] <SpeedEvil> It's not really a circle - in reality - on that map projection
[17:08] <Lunar_Lander> ohhh
[17:08] <SpeedEvil> To do it 'properly' - you need to distort the circle to the map projection.
[17:08] <SpeedEvil> But that is complex and annoying.
[17:08] <Elmar_PD3EM> in who's pocket is the streaming webcam now?
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[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[17:13] <G0DJA> Remember all that discussion about problems with high elevations on verticals with gain?
[17:13] <G0DJA> I think I'm proving the theory! Signals almost zero from Buzz here now...
[17:15] <cuddykid> daveake: are you in pursuit or are you just waiting?
[17:16] <daveake> just back to the car now
[17:20] <jackclark> Any luck dave not got a good connection here
[17:21] <priyesh> 43419
[17:23] <daveake> Steve is nearby I think, collecting XABEN
[17:23] <daveake> We're getting ready to drive oop north
[17:23] <daveake> Dunno where Buzz will end up!
[17:23] <cuddykid> v near me atm
[17:23] <cuddykid> in fact - it looks like it will fly directly overhead!
[17:24] <daveake> Batteries good till midnight or so
[17:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> sun going down
[17:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> if it floats till then its likely to carry on
[17:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> 110km and closing
[17:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> right best go have some tea to ensure marital harmony
[17:27] <cuddykid> lo
[17:27] <cuddykid> *lol
[17:31] <fsphil> told you it would do something interesting as soon as I leave!
[17:31] <fsphil> signal strengh has increased here, 5dB
[17:31] <cuddykid> slowly creeping up on the altitude record too!
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[17:31] <daveake> sloooowly
[17:31] <number10_M0MDB> go for it
[17:32] <daveake> Steve wasn't going to launch because he thought the clouds would make the balloons wet and scupper his chances of a new record
[17:32] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[17:32] <fsphil> Lunar_Lander: you'll be able to receive this soon :)
[17:32] <cuddykid> 2ms - incredible!
[17:32] <Lunar_Lander> because it gets so hight?
[17:32] <Lunar_Lander> high
[17:32] <Lunar_Lander> sorry
[17:32] <fsphil> yea
[17:32] <fsphil> brb again
[17:33] <cuddykid> here we go - it's pushing for the record!
[17:33] <Lunar_Lander> tell me the frequency
[17:33] <cuddykid> 100m off XABEN
[17:34] <G0DJA> 434.299MHz here Lunar_lander
[17:36] <Lunar_Lander> what do I need to set on the FT-790R?
[17:36] <cuddykid> nice to know i'm being radiated with the full power of buzz
[17:36] <cuddykid> burst?
[17:36] <cuddykid> no
[17:36] <Lunar_Lander> frequency please
[17:36] <G0DJA> 434.200MHz USB and tune up and down a bit
[17:36] <G0DJA> Sorru I meant 434.199MHz before
[17:36] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[17:36] <Lunar_Lander> the FT-790R has that strange display
[17:37] <Lunar_Lander> it says 4.520.0 at the moment
[17:37] <Elmar_PD3EM> gonna unplug... it's starting to get reakly nasty here with the thunder
[17:37] <Lunar_Lander> must it read 3.419.9?
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[17:38] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil, anyone?
[17:38] <Morseman> No Lunar Landar on a FT790 the 1st 2 digits are 43 so you need 4.199.8
[17:39] <daveake> burst
[17:39] <cuddykid> yep
[17:39] <cuddykid> coming down nearish me!
[17:39] <r2x0t> 43639m max then
[17:40] <cuddykid> if only I didn't have an exam tomorrow morning I'd go and hunt for it :P
[17:40] <r2x0t> close to xaben
[17:40] <Lunar_Lander> could only hear static
[17:40] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[17:40] <r2x0t> how XABEN recovery goes... looks like it's on a tree
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[17:43] <fsphil> burst
[17:43] <fsphil> really impressive flight
[17:43] <daveake> I tried to call Steve but couldn't get thru
[17:43] <G0DJA> My money would be on a landing near Matlock - Sp the Peaksky lot could collect it :-)
[17:43] <daveake> :D
[17:43] <G0DJA> *So
[17:43] <cuddykid> 1248.1 m/s
[17:43] <daveake> falling with style
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[17:45] <fsphil> still decoding well here
[17:45] <daveake> nice
[17:45] <daveake> landing prediction?
[17:45] <fsphil> so I'm thinking I'll not even bother trying for altitude on my next flight
[17:46] <fsphil> I hear floating flights are good...
[17:46] <r2x0t> prediction is close to G0DJA
[17:46] <G0DJA> I'll get my wicket keepers gloves out
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[17:47] <r2x0t> but that's some crazy records today
[17:47] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[17:47] <daveake> amazing day
[17:48] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[17:48] <r2x0t> pushed WR 1km up
[17:48] <cuddykid> hovering about 2 miles from me :D
[17:48] <Lunar_Lander> does that compensate for your team not being in the CL 2013 daveake ?
[17:48] Action: cuddykid looks up to the sky
[17:48] Action: cuddykid only to see a thick cloud layer
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[17:48] <fsphil> silly cloud
[17:49] <fsphil> decoding starting to get a bit patchy
[17:49] <daveake> Live video back on
[17:50] <G0DJA> Same here with cloud
[17:50] <r2x0t> BUZZ just 0.03m/s ?
[17:51] <r2x0t> floating around 25km ?
[17:51] <fsphil> nic evideo daveake
[17:51] <daveake> gps crapped out
[17:51] <daveake> should get it back
[17:52] <cuddykid> oh no - it better have not developed the probs mine had!
[17:52] <fsphil> yes it was doing that on the way up
[17:52] <daveake> Steve reckons it's interference from CPU
[17:53] <daveake> He spent some time testing that during the week
[17:53] <Morseman> What happened to BUZZ TX?
[17:53] <daveake> Arrgh not again
[17:53] <fsphil> !
[17:53] <Morseman> Nothing at all here
[17:54] <r2x0t> died again?
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[17:54] <fsphil> gone
[17:54] <cuddykid> damn
[17:54] <fsphil> could it be an altitude thing?
[17:54] <daveake> temperature possible
[17:54] <r2x0t> or temperature
[17:54] <r2x0t> around 10km is the coldest part of flight
[17:55] <daveake> Well we'll keep going that way and hope it comes back on
[17:55] <fsphil> yea, the altitude is different from the ascent
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[17:55] <daveake> what alt did it come back on at on the way up?
[17:55] <r2x0t> temp dropped to 0C just before it went off
[17:55] <daveake> hmm
[17:56] <cuddykid> if it's the same as mine - I don't think it's temp or altitude related
[17:56] <daveake> I don't think it's the same
[17:56] <fsphil> yea unlikely
[17:56] <daveake> dodgy chinese arduino
[17:57] <daveake> :p
[17:57] <fsphil> don't know whta altitude it came back on at as nobody was listening to it
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[17:57] <fsphil> it was rediscovered by accident
[17:57] <daveake> :)
[17:57] <cuddykid> daveake: was this a 'fake' one?!
[17:57] <daveake> ok ta
[17:57] <daveake> it's a cheap one yeah
[17:57] <cuddykid> nice, worked well so far
[17:58] <cuddykid> just the most crucial bit of the flight :(
[17:58] <daveake> well let's hope it comes back on
[17:58] <fsphil> tuned around a bit, don't see anything
[17:58] <cuddykid> yep
[17:58] <fsphil> was hoping maybe it just shifted
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[17:58] <fsphil> when I first found the buzz signal earlier there was a lot of noise in it
[17:59] <fsphil> the two bands where wide and undefined
[17:59] <fsphil> it looked more like a 100 baud signal
[18:00] <fsphil> shutting down, even if it comes back it's outta my range
[18:00] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[18:01] <daveake> Do we have a landing spot prediction?
[18:02] <Lunar_Lander> on the tracker the prediction is a LAKE
[18:02] <Lunar_Lander> west of New Brinsley
[18:02] <r2x0t> on the tracker prediction is WRONG
[18:02] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:02] <Lunar_Lander> phew
[18:02] <r2x0t> because it was just after GPS died
[18:02] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[18:03] <Lunar_Lander> lets write like THIS
[18:03] <Lunar_Lander> hope they find the PAYLOAD
[18:03] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[18:03] <daveake> Well for that I need a prediction please and some luck!
[18:03] <r2x0t> before, when it was ok, it predicted landing north of Mansfield
[18:04] <cuddykid> daveake: about a mile south of Hucknall
[18:04] <cuddykid> or Hucknall itself
[18:04] <cuddykid> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=d5187f843be0782796474e1a409e3e1b4cf3784c
[18:05] <daveake> thanks
[18:05] <cuddykid> nps
[18:05] <daveake> time of landing?
[18:05] <daveake> because if we don't get a signal before then, it's game over
[18:06] <cuddykid> urm
[18:06] <cuddykid> about 25 mins
[18:06] <cuddykid> so ~ 1/2 past
[18:06] <daveake> ta
[18:06] <daveake> so about 7:30
[18:06] <cuddykid> yep
[18:06] <daveake> :)
[18:06] <cuddykid> fingers crossed
[18:07] <daveake> keep listening guys ... need to grab a sentence if it does come back to life
[18:07] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[18:07] <daveake> TVM for the help so far today
[18:07] <fsphil> finjgersa creoosed
[18:07] <daveake> I'd given up on it
[18:07] <fsphil> makes it hard to type though
[18:07] <daveake> lol
[18:07] <cuddykid> haha
[18:07] <daveake> Whoever found the signal is a hero
[18:08] <fsphil> I actually was looking for xaben. Was wondering why it was decoding as buzz
[18:09] <daveake> lol
[18:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> same here
[18:09] <daveake> well it worked for me :D
[18:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> BUZZ died again ?
[18:09] <fsphil> yep :/
[18:09] <daveake> I know I'm chasing that damn tracker but I don't think I want to use it again!
[18:09] <fsphil> be nice to have it though
[18:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> nice final altitude
[18:09] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[18:09] <Lunar_Lander> wb Upu_2E0UPU
[18:10] <daveake> Indeed fsphil
[18:10] <daveake> Ta Upu
[18:10] <daveake> Upu We have your test GPS safe and sound
[18:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> good :)
[18:10] <daveake> It's stuck to the dash with pink tape
[18:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[18:10] <fsphil> hah
[18:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> be interested to get some feedback from Steve
[18:10] <daveake> Watching the video?
[18:10] <fsphil> I love chase cma
[18:10] <fsphil> cam
[18:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> yep
[18:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> I am now
[18:11] <fsphil> It reminds me of the old german TV stations that showed the view out the front of a train
[18:11] <G0DJA> What freq is Buzz on now?
[18:11] <daveake> There you go :)
[18:11] <fsphil> buzz died again, but it should be on 434.199 USB
[18:11] <daveake> Should be 434.198.8 dial
[18:11] <cuddykid> woo
[18:11] <daveake> but he quiet
[18:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> just see you flying along the A road
[18:11] <fsphil> do listen out for it though
[18:11] <fsphil> I bet it comes back on when it warms up
[18:12] <Morseman> Nothing here still
[18:12] <daveake> Upu you were too slow
[18:12] <Morseman> That's at G0DJA for absence of doubt
[18:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> sorry
[18:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> never mind
[18:13] <daveake> :)
[18:13] <Morseman> I'll leave RX monitoring 434.198.8
[18:13] <daveake> ta
[18:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> back
[18:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> BUZZ lives!
[18:13] <number10_M0MDB> got sig
[18:13] <r2x0t> yay
[18:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> messy signal
[18:13] <daveake> WOO HOO
[18:14] <Lunar_Lander> XD BLUR SONG 2
[18:14] <r2x0t> it's alive! it's alive!
[18:14] <daveake> yeah might clear up
[18:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> altitude is...
[18:14] <fsphil> yea, was messy last time but clears up within a few minutes
[18:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> 4323
[18:14] <r2x0t> just in time then
[18:14] <cuddykid> nice
[18:14] <daveake> gps stuck
[18:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> yep
[18:14] <daveake> But should be enough to get us close
[18:15] <daveake> Update on landing posn?
[18:15] <Upu_2E0UPU> hard to tell
[18:15] <fsphil> Rolls-Royce air port?
[18:15] <Lunar_Lander> there is a Rolls Royce airstrip
[18:15] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[18:15] <r2x0t> yeah
[18:15] <daveake> updated
[18:15] <daveake> <relief>
[18:15] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok its getting valid locations
[18:15] <Upu_2E0UPU> not a happy bunny
[18:15] <daveake> This has been an up and down day in more ways than one
[18:15] <Upu_2E0UPU> reset ?
[18:16] <Morseman> Can hear it but looks wierd
[18:16] <daveake> reset
[18:16] <daveake> battery poss a bit low
[18:16] <daveake> Well I say reset, but I coul;d have lost some of the sentence
[18:17] <Morseman> And back in the room
[18:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=cc0bcfc3f0b3011d557aee02cca7fbcb70f1bb4e
[18:17] <daveake> bit low for me to get a decode
[18:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> its reset
[18:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> count is 10
[18:17] <fsphil> weird
[18:18] <Upu_2E0UPU> thats spinning I think
[18:18] <fsphil> quite near some trees
[18:18] <daveake> Got something I can enter into the satnav?
[18:18] <r2x0t> Hucknall
[18:18] <fsphil> Leen Valley Country Park?
[18:18] <daveake> mick?
[18:18] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah 1 sec
[18:19] <cuddykid> go for Hucknall - it's going to be ~ 1 to 2 miles south of there
[18:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> NG5 8PD
[18:19] <cuddykid> even better
[18:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> NG15 7TA Wigwam Lane
[18:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> GPS stuck
[18:20] <daveake> Yeah
[18:20] <daveake> Cheers
[18:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> doing some very wierd stuff
[18:21] <daveake> it is
[18:21] <daveake> OK entered into satnav
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[18:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> fading
[18:22] <daveake> We're gonna be DF-ing this one if it doesn't sort itself out
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[18:22] <G8KNN-Jon> faded here
[18:22] <daveake> yeah gone here too
[18:23] <daveake> We're about 40 mins away
[18:23] <daveake> On tp A46 in a mo
[18:23] <fsphil> updating again?
[18:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> very high probabilty its in Leen Valley Country Park
[18:23] <daveake> Sounds good
[18:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> though may have over shot it
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[18:23] <fsphil> yea just south of it
[18:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> right good luck I best go spend some time with the wife
[18:24] Nick change: Upu_2E0UPU -> Upu
[18:24] <daveake> Satnav says we'll be there at 8:09
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[18:25] <daveake> No news from Steve yet?
[18:25] <fsphil> nothing in channel
[18:25] <daveake> I csalled him lots but no answer
[18:25] <daveake> Well didn't ring
[18:30] <fsphil> well it's down now
[18:30] <daveake> yep
[18:31] <fsphil> star command's finest rescue squad in hot pursuit
[18:32] <Upu> meh she's on the phone now
[18:32] <Upu> love the live camera from the car
[18:32] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[18:32] <fsphil> ain't that brilliant
[18:32] <Lunar_Lander> Upu, as I said
[18:32] <Upu> doesn't half look quick daveake :)
[18:32] <fsphil> ah it just stopped
[18:32] <Lunar_Lander> VirusTotal says in the newest RealTerm is a trojan!!!
[18:32] <cuddykid> won't load here :(
[18:32] <daveake> 20km away direct; 18 miles by road
[18:32] <daveake> lol
[18:32] <fsphil> and going again
[18:32] <Upu> I didn't notice
[18:32] <Upu> lunar have you got a virus
[18:32] <Upu> or do you keep repeating the same thing ?
[18:33] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:33] <Upu> so whats the thoughts on XABEN then ?
[18:33] <daveake> How did the live on-foot bit go?
[18:33] <Lunar_Lander> I mean I got RealTerm from sourceforge
[18:33] <Lunar_Lander> and I got ubuntu
[18:33] <fsphil> went well daveake, although a bit slow
[18:33] <Lunar_Lander> and I wanted to check the installer on virustotal
[18:33] <daveake> ta
[18:33] <daveake> Prolly not a good signal
[18:33] <Lunar_Lander> https://www.virustotal.com/file/a82a7b727efbfd95668a75dddf534d623c14f674a14036a8a2e3bc5d97d9f17e/analysis/1337517128/
[18:33] <Upu> go report it on Sourceforge then Lunar_Lander :)
[18:33] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[18:34] <Lunar_Lander> what do you think about that result? 3/42
[18:34] <Upu> we need to speak to Steve to see how his code works
[18:34] <r2x0t> lol 3/42... that must be virus... for sure
[18:35] <r2x0t> there is so many signatures in typical AV, it's really hard not to hit one with compiled exe
[18:35] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:35] Action: Lunar_Lander scratches his head
[18:35] <Upu> AV software is retarded anyway its ALWAYS out of date
[18:35] <r2x0t> common sense > any AV
[18:36] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[18:36] <number10_M0MDB> pic from anu - cant really see waht i am doing so may not be good http://i.imgur.com/aBr3m.jpg
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[18:36] <r2x0t> nice!
[18:36] <Sunnyday> Is there a better engine than the 30something year old Shuttle Main Engine SSME?
[18:37] <Sunnyday> Or have the designes since opted for "cheaper, disposable, applatable, use once throw away"
[18:37] <Morseman> Last decode here from BUZZ was 53.01657, -1.16627 at 315m
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[18:38] <daveake> Message from Buzz ... "Terrain seems a bit unstable. No readout yet if the air is breathable. And there seems to be no sign of intelligent life anywhere."
[18:38] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[18:39] <Lunar_Lander> sent them an email on the address given on their sourceforge page
[18:40] <Morseman> We've all hidden as we don't want you to get the idea how good it round here
[18:40] <Upu> its good number10_M0MDB :)
[18:40] <number10_M0MDB> thanks will post some later depending on what time we recover buzz
[18:41] <number10_M0MDB> Upu is there a file on fldigi that I can delete to get it working?
[18:41] <Upu> long day I suspect number10_M0MDB :)
[18:41] <Upu> not sure how you mean
[18:41] <number10_M0MDB> yes, and up for work at 5:30 tomorrow :(
[18:42] <number10_M0MDB> I wondered if there was a log file - it wont see my audio
[18:42] <daveake> sob sob
[18:42] <Upu> lol
[18:42] <Upu> not that I'm aware of you need to select the right input
[18:42] <Upu> you're about 10km out ?
[18:43] <daveake> 12.4 for last posn I receoived
[18:43] <number10_M0MDB> ok, may be its my audio drivers
[18:43] <Upu> straight down the A614
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[18:44] <Lunar_Lander> r2x0t, in the 0.22 arduino package, in the FTDI driver folder, there were two DLLs and one EXE that were recognized as viruses on virustotal
[18:44] <Lunar_Lander> the one by a heuristic scanner
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> and the other two by a chinese scanner
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[18:45] <Upu> Lunar_Lander its probably a false positive don't worry about it
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> I didn't really believed thos
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[18:45] <Upu> right afk
[18:47] <r2x0t> just add both to ignore
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[18:47] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[18:47] <Lunar_Lander> ah I mean it wasn't my virus scanner, I just routinely uploaded them to VT
[18:47] <Lunar_Lander> you see
[18:47] <Lunar_Lander> my PC here is ubuntu
[18:47] <Lunar_Lander> but I got a windows laptop for my planned balloon chasing
[18:47] <Lunar_Lander> and stuff
[18:47] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[18:48] <daveake> Yup
[18:48] <daveake> sorry
[18:49] <G0DJA> Trackers moving again
[18:49] <daveake> Yeah someone needed a pee break
[18:50] <G0DJA> LOL
[18:50] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[18:50] <daveake> someone <> me
[18:50] <daveake> unusually
[18:51] <G0DJA> Last decode from BUZZ that I received was 53.01657, -1.16627 at 315m
[18:54] <G0DJA> I think you've run out of 3G range daveake
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[18:55] <daveake_> test
[18:56] <SamSilver> daveake_: 10/10
[18:56] <daveake_> Just spoke to Steve; XABEN stuck up a very tall tree.
[18:56] <G0DJA> Your track just started moving on spacenear.us but video stopped streaming
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[18:56] <SamSilver> video rolling again
[18:58] <G0DJA> I don't think the 3G coverage is very good down that way - not enough people live there
[18:58] <daveake_> rtty
[18:58] <r2x0t> good
[18:58] <number10_M0MDB> shame i cant get fldigi going
[18:59] <r2x0t> can you upload wav?
[18:59] <r2x0t> let someone else do decoding
[18:59] <G0DJA> I can't hear anything on 434.200 from here number10_M0MDB can you?
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[19:00] <daveake_> Decoded position now
[19:01] <cuddykid> oh no - woods :S
[19:01] <G0DJA> Not far from my last good decode by look of it
[19:01] <cuddykid> correction - field :D
[19:01] <cuddykid> looks ok!
[19:01] <r2x0t> no woods
[19:01] <r2x0t> nice place
[19:02] <r2x0t> switch to sat map
[19:02] <cuddykid> yep
[19:03] <G0DJA> Looks like there's a path goes round the park
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[19:04] <daveake_> tvm ck
[19:04] <daveake_> stopped to enter the posn
[19:04] <daveake_> back on the road now
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[19:05] <r2x0t> closest park entrance is 53.013762,-1.1712
[19:06] <daveake_> ta
[19:07] <daveake_> We got the signal from 4km away ... are we sure it's not in a tree? :p
[19:08] <cuddykid> unless they've planted trees, it shouldn't be!
[19:08] <r2x0t> it may be small hill
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[19:08] <daveake_> Yeah I think we're lucky with the terrain
[19:08] <daveake_> We were on a small hill when we sudden;y got the signal
[19:10] <G0DJA> Google earth suggests grassy area just off a footpath
[19:11] <daveake_> That sounds rather convenient :)
[19:12] <fsphil> seems a nice ear
[19:12] <fsphil> area
[19:12] <fsphil> not sure what the peoples ears are like there. hopefully clean
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[19:14] <G0DJA> You may have a bit of a hike through the park though
[19:14] <r2x0t> hah
[19:14] <r2x0t> dead eand
[19:14] <r2x0t> end
[19:14] <fsphil> nuts
[19:14] <daveake_> Is there a route from where we are, by foot?
[19:14] <r2x0t> yes
[19:15] <daveake_> ta
[19:15] <r2x0t> just where the dead end is, there is path
[19:15] <r2x0t> go to the trees, end behind them is landing spot
[19:15] <r2x0t> *then
[19:15] <fsphil> you'll have to get through that line of trees
[19:16] <fsphil> though I think there's a path under them
[19:16] <r2x0t> there seems to be many paths going that way
[19:16] <fsphil> yea
[19:16] <G0DJA> Lots of paths up through treet round back of the houses
[19:16] <G0DJA> trees
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[19:19] <G0DJA> Suggest go east turn north and round back of the houses
[19:20] <daveake> TA
[19:22] <G0DJA> Should be paths up through trees
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[19:23] <r2x0t> bad 3G coverage
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[19:24] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[19:25] <daveake__> recovered
[19:25] <r2x0t> sounds like easy recovery
[19:26] <G0DJA> Yeah!
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[19:28] <daveake__> piece of .... yes very easy
[19:28] <daveake__> top of a hill with a view for miles
[19:28] <daveake__> Which explains why we got it from 4.6km away
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[19:30] <fsphil> fantastic
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[19:31] <Sunnyday> got any photos?
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[19:33] <Lunar_Lander> sorry PC hang
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[19:42] <G0DJA> About 124m ASL according to Ordnance Survey spot height nearby
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[19:45] <daveake> Buzz landed with pretty much all of the balloon attached
[19:45] <daveake> Lovely spot
[19:45] <daveake> We're about to find somewhere to eat then set off for home
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[19:45] <G0DJA> I may take a trip there and see what it's like
[19:46] <daveake> I'll upload pix of the day tomorrow. No pix from Buzz as he doesn't have a camera. Number10 has photos from ANU
[19:46] <G0DJA> Enjoy your meal and safe journey home daveake
[19:46] <daveake> Cheers
[19:46] <daveake> Thanks all VERY much for the help today
[19:46] <G0DJA> No probs
[19:47] <daveake> Some challenging flights and aside from Steve's tree it all came good
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[19:49] <G0DJA> Interesting to watch the flights
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[19:56] <Lunar_Lander> is r2x0t still here?
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[19:58] <Lunar_Lander> wb Elmar_PD3EM
[19:59] <Elmar_PD3EM> hi LL
[19:59] <Elmar_PD3EM> all payloads recovered?
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[20:00] <Lunar_Lander> I think so
[20:00] <fsphil> all but one
[20:00] <fsphil> xaben's in a tree
[20:01] <Elmar_PD3EM> ohw... that's not good.
[20:01] <Elmar_PD3EM> too high and dangerous to get it out?
[20:01] <r2x0t> Lunar_Lander: yea?
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[20:01] <fsphil> don't know the details yet
[20:02] <fsphil> just heard it was a big tree
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[20:02] <Lunar_Lander> r2x0t, would it be possible to send me a RS-92? :)
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[20:02] <r2x0t> lol... where are you from?
[20:04] <fsphil> you can buy them of ebay
[20:04] <fsphil> I must track the local one tonight
[20:04] <fsphil> the winds should push it my direction
[20:04] <r2x0t> got only one so far this year... bad winds so far
[20:05] <r2x0t> not calm enough to get local sonde land nearby
[20:05] <fsphil> I'm north west of the launch site, so they rarely get this far
[20:05] <r2x0t> but not strong enough to fly german sonde here
[20:06] <fsphil> read you saying that they repeat LW signals, that's pretty neat
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[20:06] <fsphil> we don't have analogue ones here so I can test it, but neat that you can hear the stations through it
[20:07] <r2x0t> they will stop producing analogue sondes this year
[20:07] <r2x0t> it will be all SGP/AGPs
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> r2x0t, germany
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> I found only RS-80 on ebay
[20:08] <fsphil> my colinear isn't all that good at tracking them, think they're too nearby
[20:08] <r2x0t> germany launches tons of sondes every day... too hard to find?
[20:09] <r2x0t> otherwise I can probably send few your way if you pay for postage etc.
[20:09] <r2x0t> fsphil: I also use collinear
[20:09] <r2x0t> no problem for 500km distances
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[20:09] <fsphil> it could also be my radio I gues
[20:10] <fsphil> I'm using a Yaesu VX-7R
[20:10] <r2x0t> but as you say, it's not as good when it's straight above antenna
[20:10] <r2x0t> better to get small yagi and point it up
[20:10] <r2x0t> also I use preamp for it, that helps a lot
[20:10] <fsphil> I got a better signal with a little magmount vertical
[20:10] <fsphil> yea
[20:11] <r2x0t> and AR5000 or Icom R2500, connected to SDR...that also should help a bit
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[20:12] <fsphil> I'll try with the colinear again
[20:13] <r2x0t> I usually check habhub predictor for few next days, then decide if it's even worth listening
[20:13] <fsphil> although if it does come near me I probably won't nee dit
[20:14] <r2x0t> yes
[20:14] <r2x0t> also depends where it lands, you may hear it on ground from good distance
[20:14] <fsphil> yea I've had that happen with my own payloads
[20:14] <r2x0t> I heard one hanging on a tree from almost 20km
[20:15] <fsphil> I've lost the link to the site I had with the launch sites
[20:16] <fsphil> ah got it
[20:16] <G0DJA> I think BUZZ went too high too close for my vertical - not very good signals considering not far away
[20:17] <Lunar_Lander> r2x0t, yea
[20:17] <G0DJA> Didn't have time to dig the portable 70cm beam out to test theory though
[20:18] <G0DJA> Was better when it dropped height
[20:18] <fsphil> I noticed it getting weaker as it ascended for some reason
[20:19] <fsphil> but only very slightly
[20:19] <fsphil> it was a remarkably stable signal
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> hey!
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> I found the RS-92 on ebay
[20:19] <fsphil> well tonight's launch is landing nowhere near me
[20:19] <G0DJA> Yea, not bad stability but at over 40k high should have been a better signal only 90km away...
[20:20] <G0DJA> Unless a) the clouds had large attenuation or b) I've not connected something properly again
[20:20] <G0DJA> b) is always a possibility
[20:20] <fsphil> probably just an effect of the antenna on the payload
[20:21] <fsphil> hmm.. all the sonde launches for the next few days are rubbish
[20:21] <fsphil> I'll not bother
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> r2x0t, the one guy on ebay says the RS-92 can easily be converted to 433 MHz
[20:21] <Laurenceb_> back
[20:21] <r2x0t> false
[20:21] <G0DJA> I think there's one near Nottingham but lost the link
[20:21] Action: Laurenceb_ waves hello to balloon
[20:21] <r2x0t> unless you replace transmitter board
[20:21] <fsphil> the Horus team re-lanuched a radiosonde
[20:21] <fsphil> retuned for the 70cm band
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:22] <r2x0t> you can tune it to 420
[20:22] <r2x0t> with luck
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:22] <Laurenceb_> was in garden working
[20:22] <r2x0t> but really not to 433
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:22] <Laurenceb_> didnt see any balloon overhead :P
[20:22] <r2x0t> unless PLL is running on magic :)
[20:22] <Laurenceb_> i should have looked
[20:22] <Laurenceb_> recovered?
[20:23] <fsphil> all but xaben recovered
[20:23] <fsphil> last report was that was in a very tall tree
[20:23] <Laurenceb_> :-S
[20:23] <r2x0t> yeah
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> xD r2x0t
[20:23] <r2x0t> check the google maps sat
[20:23] <Laurenceb_> did any extrololate xaben altitude?
[20:23] <r2x0t> huge tree
[20:23] <Laurenceb_> from graph?
[20:23] <r2x0t> max alt looks plausible
[20:24] <Elmar_PD3EM> not a good tree to climb... http://maps.google.nl/maps?q=52.57238,-0.34339&hl=nl&ll=52.572166,-0.343559&spn=0.001314,0.002849&sll=52.132633,5.291266&sspn=5.409732,11.66748&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=52.572037,-0.343402&panoid=EPJJm5ur5JYmy2d-r8Cc0g&cbp=12,351.86,,0,-3.98
[20:24] <Laurenceb_> ah least there is a pub
[20:24] <fsphil> the arhab guys at least require a couple of positions from the altitude
[20:24] <Laurenceb_> yeah was just wondering
[20:24] <Laurenceb_> i guesstimated 42.7
[20:25] <Laurenceb_> its not _that_ bad a tree
[20:25] <G0DJA> Can't find RS-92 on ebay other than a load of car parts
[20:25] <fsphil> Friday night's sonde launch will fly directly over my house according to the predictor
[20:25] <fsphil> which means it won't
[20:26] <r2x0t> predictor always lies, but sometimes that lie is acceptable
[20:27] <fsphil> 5 days out is only sometimes right
[20:27] <fsphil> but I'll keep watching the 2 day predictions
[20:27] <fsphil> all the ones I've track before landed in the sea or scotland
[20:30] <G0DJA> I hate having new PCs
[20:31] <G0DJA> Can someone remind me again where the raw download data goes? Thanks
[20:31] <Elmar_PD3EM> G0DJA: well... then sent it over to me ;-)
[20:31] <G0DJA> It doesn't belong to me, it is a works PC sorry Elmar_PD3EM
[20:32] <Elmar_PD3EM> haha.. ok butr I know what you mean
[20:32] <G0DJA> I put a post it note on the screen "Welcome to the Windows 7 world of pain"
[20:33] <fsphil> 7 is quite annoying
[20:34] <fsphil> works better than vista, but still really annoying
[20:34] <G0DJA> Then someone in IT said "Well, it could have been worse, it could have been Vista"
[20:35] <G0DJA> Don't get me started on the hell that is the new Word and Excel layouts...
[20:35] <fsphil> I've got a windows 7 disk from work somewhere. not installed it on anything yet
[20:35] <fsphil> the ribbon can burn in hell :)
[20:35] <G0DJA> Don't fsphil
[20:35] <fsphil> I don't have a spare machine for it
[20:35] <G0DJA> I'd just about tamed XP pro!
[20:36] <Elmar_PD3EM> I found the MS Windows for Workgroups / MS DOS 6.2 manual today... it's with the old newspapers now ;-)
[20:36] <G0DJA> I remember that as well! I'm getting to be seriously old
[20:37] <fsphil> I was a smug amiga user when WfW was out :)
[20:37] <Elmar_PD3EM> I started at work with 3.1 and implementing Exchange 5....
[20:37] <Elmar_PD3EM> I should have stuck with sendmail
[20:38] <G0DJA> I even remember using a PC package that wasn't Windows based on a DOS "laptop" from Toshiba that had a built in screen, keyboard and tracker (not a mouse) weighed as much as a breeze block
[20:39] <Elmar_PD3EM> that where those big cases with the keyboard in the top cover and a small orange screen ;-)
[20:39] <G0DJA> I even put NOS on it and ran a IP over radio account for a while LOL
[20:39] <Elmar_PD3EM> and after all that new and fast stuff where sending 8 or 16 MHz controlers to near space ;-)
[20:40] <Elmar_PD3EM> trying to get all the code below 32 kB
[20:40] <fsphil> that's fun though :)
[20:41] <Elmar_PD3EM> it is indeed fun
[20:41] <Elmar_PD3EM> And Bill Gates once said we would never need more that 640 k of memory....
[20:42] <fsphil> I'm trying to find the sonde launch site on google. the nearest building is just a warehouse
[20:44] <fsphil> apparantly at 54.48N 6.10W
[20:47] <fsphil> nasa have it at 54.483, -6.1
[20:47] <fsphil> which appears to be some trees :)
[20:49] <Laurenceb_> heh record is beaten by almost 1Km now
[20:49] <Laurenceb_> CNSP by way over 1km
[20:50] <G0DJA> Still can't find where the list of uploaded records for DL-FLDigi goes. LOL
[20:51] <fsphil> they go to the habhub server
[20:51] <fsphil> not sure there is a simple list as there was for the old system
[20:52] <Laurenceb_> less than 10km to the world altitude record for balloons :P
[20:53] <fsphil> oh wait http://habitat.habhub.org/ept/
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> back from dinner
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> marmelade with lemons+oranges+ginger is good
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> a good british invention
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[20:55] Action: fsphil is about to have cornflakes
[20:55] <Lunar_Lander> tasty!
[20:55] <G0DJA> Thanks!
[20:56] <G0DJA> Megan had Cornflakes without milk this morning!
[20:56] <fsphil> exactly that. great stuff
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> why without milk?
[20:56] <fsphil> oh I misread that
[20:56] <fsphil> with milk :)
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[20:57] <G0DJA> Because she'd had them at Nursery school without milk - I've no idea why...
[20:57] <fsphil> I like them soggy
[20:58] <G0DJA> No use arguing with a 31/2 year old. Like teenagers, they know everything...
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[20:58] <jcoxon> did we break a record or 2 today?
[20:58] <fsphil> indeed!
[20:59] <jcoxon> thats incredible
[20:59] <Lunar_Lander> hi jcoxon
[20:59] <Elmar_PD3EM> 20 minutes before solar eclipse in Japan and it's completely cloudy over there... http://panasonic.net/eclipselive/
[20:59] <Lunar_Lander> ohhhh
[20:59] <Elmar_PD3EM> hi James
[21:00] <G0DJA> Which records?
[21:00] <G0DJA> GE jcoxon
[21:03] <jcoxon> altitude records
[21:04] <Upu> Yeah think Xaben got it again but need to speak to Steve about how his tracker works
[21:04] <Upu> was very odd
[21:04] <Upu> great Daveke got Buzz back
[21:05] <Upu> anyone want to make a call on that ?
[21:06] <Lunar_Lander> how do you mean?
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[21:07] <G0DJA> I can't find those altitude record lists either!
[21:07] <Upu> http://ukhas.org.uk/general:uk_records
[21:08] <G0DJA> ta
[21:08] <Upu> Well the issue is Steve's tracker was playing up
[21:08] <Upu> it stop transmitting
[21:08] <fsphil> http://ukhas.org.uk/general:uk_records
[21:08] <fsphil> so did buzz
[21:08] <Upu> then came back with the following sequence : http://pastie.org/3940615
[21:08] <Upu> then the very next telemetry line one under it
[21:09] <fsphil> I'd love to trust that line
[21:09] <fsphil> but it's all very isolated
[21:09] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:10] <fsphil> whereas with buzz there is no doubt
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[21:11] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:12] <fsphil> had I not seen buzz going above 43km I would have said it was impossible
[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> yeaj
[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:14] <fsphil> the last string had at least a few preceeding it: $$XABEN,469,16:17:16,52.48139,-0.28616,42388,0.0,0.00,4;5;FA0;0.8*39C6
[21:14] <G0DJA> Personally, I think BUZZ is a solid contender but I have to say that, unfortunately, what I did see from XABEN made me wonder if it was actually so
[21:15] <fsphil> besides, I suspect Steve will repeat it soon enough :)
[21:15] <G0DJA> The variation either side seemed a bit suspect, but I'm not an expert of course
[21:16] <fsphil> it does fit in with the altitude graph though
[21:16] <Lunar_Lander> and what happened on Ava?
[21:16] <fsphil> int16_t happened :)
[21:17] <G0DJA> Like I say fsphil, I'm not an expert, it's like watching a race on the telly and the timing system throws a bit of a wobbler. Do you trust it for a world record?
[21:17] <fsphil> 32767 is the highest value int16_t can store
[21:17] <fsphil> add one and you get -32768
[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:18] <Lunar_Lander> what do you need to do to avoid that?
[21:18] <fsphil> either uint16_t or one of the 32-bit intss
[21:18] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:18] <fsphil> int32_t probably the best bet
[21:18] <G0DJA> From what I'm told, and the graphs, that seemed to be a problem on ANU today as well
[21:18] <Lunar_Lander> ah thanks
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[21:18] <fsphil> just incase you land below sea level :)
[21:18] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:19] <fsphil> and then you'd be at 65.5km :)
[21:19] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[21:19] <G0DJA> According to the graphs it dredged quite a trench across Cambridgeshire today
[21:19] <fsphil> simple programming error G0DJA
[21:20] <G0DJA> One I could see me making fsphil!
[21:20] <jonsowman> i did, i nearly tripped over it
[21:20] <fsphil> it's easily done
[21:20] <fsphil> to be honest, until recently int16_t would've been fine :)
[21:20] <jonsowman> next target: int32_t
[21:20] <fsphil> lol
[21:21] <fsphil> I don't think even nasa have that one
[21:21] <fsphil> how many metres away is voyager 2 ?
[21:21] <Upu> "alot"
[21:21] <fsphil> a question for wolfram I think...
[21:22] <Upu> 14,615,000,00000
[21:22] <Upu> next ?
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[21:22] <Upu> Voyager 1 is further
[21:22] <Upu> 17,961,000,000km
[21:22] <Upu> as of feb 10th 2012
[21:22] <jonsowman> :D
[21:23] <Upu> they don't update it too often these days
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:23] <Upu> 266watts of power
[21:23] <Upu> http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/weekly-reports/index.htm
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[21:24] <fsphil> so yea NASA haven't got to the int32_t stage yet
[21:24] <fsphil> no wait, int64_t
[21:24] <fsphil> bah my brain no work
[21:24] <fsphil> they're way past int16
[21:26] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:26] <G0DJA> Or Vger as Star Trek had it I think?
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[21:36] <Lunar_Lander> I got an idea for payloads
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[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> if you are interested
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[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil, still on?
[21:47] <fsphil> maybe
[21:47] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[21:52] <gonzo_> been out for a while. I take it good recoverirs in this evev;s three launches?
[21:52] <fsphil> good coverage on all three it seems
[21:53] <fsphil> upu did some conducting
[21:53] <gonzo_> all recovered?
[21:53] <fsphil> xaben was in a tree, not sure what's happened there
[21:53] <gonzo_> yep, I was directed for best effectivness
[21:53] <fsphil> the other two recovered
[21:53] <gonzo_> I saw it on the track. Assumed the telem at the end was dave's chase far
[21:53] <gonzo_> car
[21:53] <gonzo_> I see the exact tree
[22:01] <gonzo_> I bet BUZZ's landing was a bit of a worrying one. Looks like it just middes nottingham!
[22:01] <gonzo_> missed
[22:02] <gonzo_> and a new record!! That'll take a bit of beating
[22:06] <fsphil> xaben might have
[22:07] <Upu> I would call Xaben got it
[22:07] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:07] <Upu> 43721 meters
[22:08] <Upu> but we need to speak to Steve to clarify how his code works
[22:10] <Lunar_Lander> Upu, fsphil got a payload idea
[22:14] <gonzo_> ah I didn't motice that. Two records breakers.
[22:19] <Upu> technically 3
[22:19] <Upu> ANU-2 was highest camera payload
[22:28] <gonzo_> a good day's work!
[22:29] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[22:39] <daveake> Evening all
[22:39] <fsphil> wb daveake
[22:39] <daveake> xd
[22:39] <daveake> I'm f...., er, tired :)
[22:40] <Lunar_Lander> wb DanielRichman
[22:40] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL!
[22:40] <Lunar_Lander> congrats daveake
[22:40] <daveake> cheers
[22:40] <daveake> or prost!
[22:41] <gonzo_> yep, congrats to the whole team
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> I got a innovative payload idea but no one wanted to hear it yet
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[22:43] <fsphil> you don't need permission to talk here :p
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[22:45] <Lunar_Lander> it is based on the work of this man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Regener
[22:46] <daveake> I dunno ... I beat Steve's previous record by nearly a kilometre, and STILL didn't get the record :p
[22:46] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:47] <fsphil> you had it briefly
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander> he built a small greenhouse for his payload of wood beams and then covered in cellophane and that actually kept a positive temperature inside according to thermographs that were flown
[22:47] <daveake> A great day though - fun launches with a great set of people, fun chases, records galore, and successful recoveries
[22:47] <fsphil> xaben recovered?
[22:47] <fsphil> last we heard it was in a tree
[22:47] <daveake> Nope
[22:47] <daveake> Yep
[22:47] <daveake> The ones I chased we recovered :D
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> yea and my idea was
[22:48] <daveake> Yeah I called Steve loads of times. Eventually got to speak with him and he'd sadly given up
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> balsa + cellophane = win (?)
[22:49] <daveake> Buzz landed in a perfect place - top of a small hill with a great view over a valley
[22:49] <daveake> That explains why we picked the signal up frmo 4.6km
[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> yay
[22:49] <daveake> Only 200m from parking places too
[22:50] <daveake> I'll have to sort out a car charger for the 817 as the rechargeables gave up halfway through the day
[22:50] <daveake> Swapped to AAs
[22:50] <fsphil> how'd the 817 work out for you in the end? (apart from the batts)
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:50] <daveake> Worked well
[22:50] <daveake> Pleased with my purchase :)
[22:50] <jonsowman> congrats on today daveake
[22:50] <jonsowman> another successful flight :)
[22:51] <daveake> Buzz is going in the freezer soon ... see if I can learn mych about what it did
[22:51] <daveake> Cheers :)
[22:51] <daveake> Yes .... very :)
[22:51] <fsphil> yes, the noisy signal and silence was very odd
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> that is how you keep a secret
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> just talk into a conversation
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[22:51] <daveake> I was convinced the rfm22 had reset, but the only way back from that is if the processor reboots
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:52] <daveake> Which I know it did later on but don't think it did earlier.
[22:52] <gonzo_> that was while they were uplinking the new firmware with the adjusted alt calibration values!
[22:52] <daveake> I have some work to do starting with the logs
[22:52] <jonsowman> it was only a matter of time until the conspiracy theories
[22:52] <gonzo_> hehe
[22:52] <daveake> lol
[22:52] <jonsowman> altitude *= 1.1;
[22:52] <jonsowman> oh no, how did that line appear in the code? :\
[22:53] <daveake> lol
[22:53] <fsphil> a faulty capacitor might cause the noise I seen at certain temperatures
[22:53] <daveake> I said to people earlier that I was going to start a conspiracy theory that Buzz didn't come back online, but was a separate flight with faked GPS :D
[22:53] <gonzo_> I went low tech in my code, I just parsed for the commar delimiters then copy the nmea strings
[22:53] <jonsowman> you weren't wrong
[22:54] <fsphil> Buzz just went home briefly
[22:54] <gonzo_> stopped off in a pub for a crafty couple
[22:55] <daveake> :D
[22:55] <daveake> Buzz before launch - https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/246548_3447231654165_1071879338_32533154_1526445870_n.jpg
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[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[22:56] <gonzo_> (or buzz went to the chippy, waiting for you to float nearer)
[22:56] <daveake> Macdonalds in the end
[22:56] <gonzo_> ugh, well makes a change from food I suppose
[22:56] <fsphil> the flaw with weechat .. it splits urls
[22:58] <Lunar_Lander> any thoughts on my idea :P?
[22:59] <daveake> true
[23:00] <fsphil> the good thing about weechat, it tells you when it's midnight
[23:00] <fsphil> you drew eyes onto it? :)
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:01] <daveake> Yes, I didn't put real eyes on it (weight-saving feature)
[23:02] <fsphil> wise
[23:02] <fsphil> they don't work well at -50c anyway
[23:02] <griffonbot> @sgvband: RT @vk5gr: Monkey in space http://t.co/aqGtQyRb via @SunriseOn7 flight made possible tks to http://t.co/LhL2S5ic team in Adel-SA #Projec ... [http://twitter.com/sgvband/status/204346358201712641]
[23:03] <daveake> CNSP will get bumped down the list when ARHAB updates this week :)
[23:04] <daveake> I think the live video feed worked well today
[23:04] <fsphil> very
[23:04] <fsphil> the view from the chase car was quite impressive
[23:04] <daveake> :)
[23:05] <daveake> The webcam i bought has a camera tripod mount, and I found a windscreen camera mount in my box of useful stuff
[23:05] <daveake> 3G worked very well today - just 2 dropouts
[23:06] <gonzo_> I was watching maps trying to see the road bridges coming.
[23:06] <fsphil> dongle or phone?
[23:06] <daveake> dongle
[23:06] <fsphil> nice
[23:06] <fsphil> my dongle has gradually got deaf
[23:06] <gonzo_> btw, what was your 3g useage on the tv stream
[23:06] <r2x0t> maybe add some external gsm antenna
[23:07] <r2x0t> usually there is connector of some sort
[23:07] <daveake> dongle in a 3g access point. That delivers internet via wifi to everything else in the car
[23:07] <fsphil> I got an antenna for it, but the signal is actually worse through it
[23:07] <r2x0t> heh
[23:07] <fsphil> tbh I don't think the antenna port is even connected
[23:07] <Lunar_Lander> wb r2x0t
[23:07] <daveake> dunno about usage - I have a t-mobile sim with "all you can eat in a day for £1"
[23:07] <daveake> Doesn't tell me how much I used
[23:07] <fsphil> that's an oddly good deal
[23:07] <r2x0t> that's good deal
[23:07] <daveake> And I didn't check the AP to find out
[23:08] <gonzo_> interesting dave
[23:08] <fsphil> giffgaff have an unlimited option for £10, lasts a month
[23:08] <r2x0t> here, it would be all you can eat, except after 100MB it will cost 10euro for every next 10MB you use
[23:08] <daveake> Yeah, if you get their "broadband sim" it's £2, but their phone sims it's £1
[23:08] <fsphil> seems t-mobile have the better deal
[23:08] <daveake> For rare use it's great
[23:08] <Laurenceb_> are the photos retreived?
[23:09] <fsphil> I might get that for the dongle, and keep giffgaff on the phone
[23:09] <fsphil> need a new dongle though
[23:09] <daveake> The dongle has an aerial socket so I plug in a rooftop aerial
[23:09] <fsphil> that's what I was trying to do last time
[23:09] <daveake> photos - only ANU had a camera, and that worked so no doubt number10 will be uploading during the week
[23:09] <Laurenceb_> cool
[23:10] <Laurenceb_> will look forward to that
[23:10] Action: Laurenceb_ zzz
[23:10] <daveake> We all have photos of the launch and chase of course
[23:10] <daveake> I'll upload mine tomorrow
[23:10] <gonzo_> was anu in a tree?
[23:10] <daveake> No, field
[23:10] <daveake> xaben in a tree
[23:10] <r2x0t> <number10_M0MDB> pic from anu - cant really see waht i am doing so may not be good http://i.imgur.com/aBr3m.jpg
[23:10] <daveake> ANU was a fair walk from the csar
[23:10] <gonzo_> ah, so many flights I'm getting confused
[23:10] <gonzo_> easy recovery?
[23:11] <daveake> BUZZ was 200m from the car (in a straight line - maybe 350 the way we had to go)
[23:11] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[23:11] <daveake> Was sat ina perfect place for the signal to travel far - top of a hill facing a valley
[23:12] <r2x0t> ANU was in a field, just not as accessible by roads, so longer walk
[23:12] <daveake> Hence we got the signal nearly 5km away
[23:12] <gonzo_> the tree landing xaben?
[23:12] <daveake> signal @ 5km = tree, normally :p
[23:12] <daveake> No - Buzz - on a hill
[23:12] <gonzo_> easy tree recovery
[23:12] <fsphil> great pic from anu
[23:12] <daveake> XABEN dunno how far away the signal got
[23:12] <r2x0t> XABEN is still on a tree
[23:13] <gonzo_> ah ok
[23:13] <daveake> We chased ANU then BUZZ; Steve chased XABEN
[23:13] <gonzo_> you get gain from trees. An extra tree dB
[23:13] <gonzo_> (groan)
[23:13] <daveake> Was going to help Steve out with that but couldn't get through to him (no signal on his phone)
[23:13] <daveake> lol
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[23:14] <fsphil> a treemendous landing
[23:14] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[23:15] <daveake> Better than landing at a police station ...
[23:15] <daveake> ... special branch
[23:15] <fsphil> at least they'd treet you well
[23:15] <r2x0t> or minefield
[23:15] <daveake> oh look is that the time? :p
[23:15] <Lunar_Lander> lol
[23:15] <Lunar_Lander> time?
[23:16] <Lunar_Lander> OUTATIME
[23:16] <daveake> Time is an illusion; launch time especially so
[23:16] <gonzo_> sorry I've only just twigged what you said
[23:16] <r2x0t> launch time is very relative
[23:16] <SpeedEvil> Damn.
[23:16] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:16] <SpeedEvil> Just slept 6PM to now.
[23:16] <Lunar_Lander> are you up to discuss my idea?
[23:16] <gonzo_> sas that hoopy frood
[23:16] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[23:17] <gonzo_> a combat kip!
[23:17] <fsphil> you've not got to the root of the issue gonzo_
[23:17] Action: SpeedEvil had his sleep-cycle sort-of-sorted.
[23:17] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[23:17] <daveake> Shame Steve had to leave that payload
[23:17] <gonzo_> leaf it out!
[23:17] <daveake> ^^ mine better
[23:17] <daveake> :p
[23:17] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:17] <fsphil> I seed what you did there
[23:17] <r2x0t> lol
[23:17] <gonzo_> agreed two all
[23:17] Action: Lunar_Lander hands out beer to everyone
[23:17] <daveake> glug glug
[23:18] <fsphil> I'll just have a coke
[23:18] <gonzo_> just planting the idea in my head
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[23:18] <daveake> The old oaks are the best
[23:18] Action: Lunar_Lander gives fsphil a coke
[23:18] <gonzo_> (I'll fill the whisky glass)
[23:18] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:18] <fsphil> you can't conker them all
[23:18] <Lunar_Lander> so you know that Regener gave me the idea
[23:18] <Lunar_Lander> make a wooden frame
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> cover it with cellophane
[23:19] <gonzo_> oak kak!
[23:19] <gonzo_> y
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> and that is then a "greenhouse"thing which gave him, according to his thermographs, positive temperatures inside
[23:19] <SpeedEvil> Of these puns I am sick no more!
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> and as we got balsa and stuff I thought if that is a good idea today still
[23:19] <fsphil> I'm suppose to be asleep
[23:20] <fsphil> my alarm is very unforgiving
[23:20] <daveake> I'm bushed
[23:20] <gonzo_> puns are ok, if you can stivk at it
[23:20] <gonzo_> stick
[23:20] <gonzo_> (or learn to type)
[23:20] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:20] <daveake> There's a grain of truth there
[23:20] <fsphil> I can't remember what twiggered this now
[23:20] <gonzo_> I'll lend you an ear
[23:21] <gonzo_> need to stem this
[23:21] <daveake> It'll knot go any further
[23:21] <gonzo_> last one too you dave
[23:22] <Lunar_Lander> daveake, can you tell me the balloon specs?
[23:23] <daveake> specs?
[23:23] <daveake> big and round
[23:23] <Lunar_Lander> yea, hwoyee or totex and the weight and H2 or He
[23:23] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
[23:23] <daveake> can't say :p
[23:23] <Lunar_Lander> :P why?
[23:24] <daveake> can't say
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:24] <daveake> XD
[23:24] Action: Lunar_Lander writes down "Ammonia" as inflation gas
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[23:24] <gonzo_> given the records that people are gettig with Hwoyee rubber, that company should start making condoms
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[23:25] <fsphil> maybe they do
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> you know back at Horus 16
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> like the day before, there was in the paper that south africa banned the import of chinese condoms
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:26] <gonzo_> hehe, then these chinees must have bloody big willies!
[23:26] <daveake> Steve this morning: "I don't think I'll bother launching today - those clouds will stop anyone getting a record"
[23:26] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL!
[23:26] <r2x0t> lol
[23:27] <gonzo_> the force is strong in this one
[23:27] <fsphil> these where special clouds
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:27] <fsphil> after all, they where floating
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> <Lunar_Lander> so you know that Regener gave me the idea
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> <Lunar_Lander> make a wooden frame
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> <Lunar_Lander> cover it with cellophane
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> <Lunar_Lander> and that is then a "greenhouse"thing which gave him, according to his thermographs, positive temperatures inside
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander> <Lunar_Lander> and as we got balsa and stuff I thought if that is a good idea today still
[23:28] <daveake> clouds with extra #woo woo
[23:28] <fsphil> woo, virtualbox working on my laptop
[23:29] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:29] <fsphil> the woo woo is important stuff
[23:29] <fsphil> I'm gonna try anyway but I'm pretty sure I've no hope
[23:29] <Lunar_Lander> but Brian Cox said there is no woo woo?
[23:29] <fsphil> but it'll be fun to give it a go
[23:30] <fsphil> Brian Cox is just an actor
[23:30] <Lunar_Lander> xD I mean the professor
[23:30] <fsphil> he's a professor now? sheesh, he didn't seem that smart in x-men
[23:30] <daveake> since then, things have only got better
[23:31] <fsphil> you make one indestructible solder with spikes coming out of his hands, and suddenly you're the bad guy
[23:31] <Lunar_Lander> xD fsphil I mean the other guy
[23:31] <fsphil> wolverine?
[23:32] <fsphil> he's pretty cool, but would be useless at a hab launch
[23:32] <Lunar_Lander> no the completely other brian cox from manchester
[23:32] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
[23:32] <fsphil> wolverine, don't hold that balloon. and no, you can't smoke
[23:32] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
[23:32] <daveake> lol
[23:33] <gonzo_> sounds more like blade runner
[23:33] <r2x0t> last words: "what?! I thought you use helium"
[23:33] <daveake> Some of them might be much more useful when recovering payloads
[23:33] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:33] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> my idea of the "greenhouse" was no joke
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[23:34] <daveake> There's a tree .... no, there's a pile of ashes/woodchips
[23:34] <gonzo_> fly some tomato plants?
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> XD not really
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> I mean
[23:34] <fsphil> you're making flying tomatoes?
[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> when he began back in 1932, that temperature problem was serious
[23:34] <gonzo_> we did flying spuds once
[23:35] <daveake> fsphil should fly onions
[23:35] <Lunar_Lander> but with that system he was able to fly a high voltage battery for his geiger counter by just insulating the batteries with some feathers
[23:35] <Lunar_Lander> and that was in 1934
[23:35] <fsphil> daveake: only if I could release them from 30km without a chute
[23:35] <fsphil> revenge
[23:35] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:35] <daveake> :D
[23:35] <fsphil> I was really enjoying that chicken sandwich
[23:35] <gonzo_> back in the good old days when you cluld buy 90V and 135v batts
[23:36] <fsphil> there was only one, but it was enough
[23:36] <fsphil> that poor sandwich
[23:36] <daveake> For Buzz I used a 12" chute. I thought that was a bit minimal, till I saw Steve with one no more than 8" across, if that
[23:37] <fsphil> anu seemed to have a large chute
[23:37] <daveake> yeah, dunno what size. Didn't notice
[23:37] <daveake> Payload was fairly light so wouldn't need more than 30"
[23:38] <daveake> I used 2$ for buzz5 (250g payload) and that was about right
[23:38] <daveake> 24"
[23:38] <fsphil> I normally use 24"
[23:38] <fsphil> my payloads haven't been that big really
[23:38] <daveake> Buzz6 came down with nearly all of the balloon still attached
[23:38] <fsphil> can't remember what projectcirrus used
[23:39] <daveake> I used a 48" for the dual flight with Upu. We had 1500g worth of payload. Worked out exactly 5m/s landing
[23:39] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:40] <Lunar_Lander> is balsa good in the stratosphere?
[23:40] <daveake> I'm falling asleep ... night all
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[23:41] <Lunar_Lander> good night
[23:41] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[23:41] <fsphil> same here
[23:41] <fsphil> I shall sleep on your idea
[23:41] <Lunar_Lander> :) thanks
[23:41] <gonzo_> out of whiskey error!
[23:42] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:42] <fsphil> eek!
[23:42] <gonzo_> seleep on a bed, far more comfy
[23:42] <fsphil> good point
[23:42] <gonzo_> gn from me too
[23:42] <fsphil> nite
[23:42] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[23:43] <fsphil> my big pc is too noisy
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> not good
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