highaltitude.log.20120513

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[04:18] <SamSilver> went to fetch a coffee and the next thing Dan & Brad have left the vehicle and also no sound
[04:19] <Darkside> so whats happening with the launch?
[04:19] <imrcly> they just arrived to the site with the payload, one of the balloons is inflated
[04:20] <Darkside> could someone update twitter then?
[04:23] <imrcly> i am at home and the login that i think it is isn't and it appears the communication broke
[04:23] <imrcly> to the people not the balloon
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[05:04] <x-f> good morning
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[05:58] <RocketBoy> anyone know whats happening with SpeedBall-1 ?
[05:59] <x-f> they're still on the ground
[05:59] <x-f> live stream - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn0-rJ2mrWM
[05:59] <RocketBoy> :-(
[05:59] <x-f> ZP balloon is filled
[05:59] <x-f> dunno about the latex one
[06:00] <x-f> expecting to launch soon
[06:00] <RocketBoy> they had problems with some sensors?
[06:00] <x-f> yeah, cloud and humidity sensors
[06:00] <x-f> they removed the gopro too
[06:03] <RocketBoy> thanks
[06:03] <x-f> np
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[06:28] <imrcly> i think the sensor controller is having a hardware failure
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[06:29] <x-f> new stream - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_BCZDeGULA
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[06:45] <x-f> still haven't seen the latex balloon
[06:46] <x-f> ah, there it is
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[07:30] <jcoxon> Whitestar update?
[07:30] <x-f> two minutes from launch
[07:31] <x-f> live stream - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_BCZDeGULA
[07:32] <MrScienceMan> live stream
[07:32] <MrScienceMan> lol
[07:32] <SamSilver> latex on the move
[07:34] <SamSilver> latex over taking zp
[07:35] <Darkside> and no video
[07:36] <SamSilver> looked like too much lift on latex inverted the zp
[07:36] <Darkside> wait, it has been launched?
[07:37] <x-f> yup
[07:37] <Darkside> ah
[07:37] <UpuMobile> its up ?
[07:37] <Darkside> so the zp has been inverted, so its gas will come out?
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[07:38] <UpuMobile> latex ?
[07:39] <SamSilver> has a latex tug attached
[07:39] <jcoxon> I think its got a pressure valve
[07:40] <UpuMobile> oh
[07:40] <UpuMobile> sounds complex :/
[07:47] <jcoxon> Is the tracking working?
[07:47] <jcoxon> And did they include s radio in the end?
[07:48] <SamSilver> jcoxon: the sound here is bad - but from what I can make out the camers/s removed
[07:48] <jcoxon> Yeah I read that
[07:48] <SamSilver> go pros did not fly
[07:49] <jcoxon> Oh well
[07:50] Action: jcoxon is on his mobile, can't access proper webpages
[07:50] <x-f> telemetry is being received
[07:51] <x-f> 2.4 km altitude
[07:51] <SamSilver> 5 deg C external temp
[07:51] <x-f> screenprints from launch video - http://imgur.com/a/BuJ7u
[07:53] <jcoxon> Thanks x-f
[07:54] <x-f> you're welcome
[07:55] <jcoxon> Shame no radio to actually track
[07:56] <jcoxon> The system was built for long duration flights
[07:56] <SamSilver> coms via sats
[07:58] <jcoxon> Yeah irdium
[07:58] <SamSilver> speed 16 knots external temp -1 alti 3620m
[07:59] <x-f> 3 m/s ascent rate
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[08:03] <UpuMobile> whats the tracking page URL x-f ?
[08:03] <x-f> http://track.whitestarballoon.com/
[08:04] <UpuMobile> duh
[08:04] <UpuMobile> thx
[08:09] <jcoxon> We need to get the flight data autoposted here!
[08:11] <x-f> it's being received every two minutes now :)
[08:11] <jcoxon> That's great news
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[08:11] <jcoxon> Perhaps autopost then
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[08:12] <x-f> 5.8 km altitude, 3 m/s ascent rate, -13 C external temp, 36 knots ground speed
[08:12] <x-f> 18 C electric temp, 30 C batt temp, 89 cloud
[08:13] <x-f> 6.2 km altitude by now already
[08:14] <x-f> looks like there is no pressure sensore and helium temp sensor either
[08:15] <jcoxon> Helium temp sensor was removed yesterday
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[08:20] <jcoxon> Congrats Dan-K2VOL
[08:23] <SamSilver> well done dan
[08:26] <Dan-K2VOL> thank you SamSilver, jcoxon!
[08:26] <Dan-K2VOL> a very long day of hard decisions
[08:30] <jcoxon> Indeed
[08:31] <jcoxon> Is their a public raw data page?
[08:31] <SamSilver> things going to plan now?
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[08:36] <x-f> 10 km altitude, 2.7 m/s ascent rate, -43C external, 44 knots ground speed
[08:38] <jcoxon> Chilly
[08:39] <UpuMobile> does it jettison the latex once its at altitude ?
[08:40] <x-f> i think it keeps it
[08:40] <UpuMobile> ok
[08:40] <x-f> it's a 1600 Hwoyee, born to float :)
[08:42] <UpuMobile> sure but not at 15000 meters :)
[08:42] <x-f> target is 20 km
[08:42] <jcoxon> The worry would be if it burst, adding weight
[08:42] <jcoxon> Unless they can cut it away
[08:43] <SamSilver> jcoxon: would need to use <1600g of ballast
[08:43] <x-f> yeah, i don't really know how it's tied there
[08:43] <x-f> Dan said, the ZP has small amount of gas
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[08:49] <RocketBoy> any clues as to why they decided to float this way (using the latex tug)
[08:50] <fsphil> ooh it's up
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[08:53] <fsphil> the last telemetry on the website is 15 minutes ago
[08:54] <x-f> the data in it is current
[08:54] <x-f> data dump page show the same with a more recent time stamp
[08:55] <x-f> shows*
[08:56] <fsphil> where is that at?
[08:58] <x-f> link is on WS wiki non-public page, i think you have the access to it
[08:59] <fsphil> will have a look after breakfast
[08:59] <fsphil> hehe, 6 people have disliked the youtube stream
[08:59] <x-f> might be because of the sound quality :/
[08:59] <fsphil> ooch, sound problems? it's silent here
[09:00] <x-f> getting warmer, was -58.5C at 13.3 km, now -56 at 13.8 km
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[09:00] <x-f> it was quite hard to understand when they talked
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[09:02] <fsphil> ah
[09:03] <fsphil> hear what you mean
[09:03] <fsphil> that's a very low bitrate codec
[09:03] <fsphil> is that via the teamspeak server? I might be able to setup a better stream
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[09:05] <x-f> no idea, might be via teamspeak and via skype or something
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[09:09] <x-f> RocketBoy, the idea with two balloons was to get higher - above the planes and out of their way
[09:13] <RocketBoy> higher quicker maybe - but not sure how it achieves a higher float if the latex bursts/cut away
[09:15] <x-f> then the flight will be over
[09:16] <x-f> currently at 15.9 km, ascent rate slowed down to 1.2 m/s
[09:17] <SamSilver> the alti meter is swinging aroung at 1.5 hz
[09:17] <SamSilver> was pulsing
[09:17] <SamSilver> stopped now
[09:17] <SamSilver> doing it again
[09:18] <SamSilver> 15 948 m
[09:19] <SamSilver> looks like a float graph
[09:19] <SamSilver> comming on
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[09:36] <RocketBoy> x-f: thanks I see how it will work now
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[09:59] <fsphil> watching the playback of hte launch. that's a big balloon!
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[10:02] <cuddykid> morning
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[10:03] <Bob_G8NSV> anyone launching today?
[10:03] <fsphil> Whitestar launched last night
[10:04] <cuddykid> can't load their tracker page..
[10:04] <Bob_G8NSV> tnx
[10:04] <fsphil> working ok here... http://track.whitestarballoon.com/ yea?
[10:04] <cuddykid> yup, not loading here :(
[10:05] <cuddykid> ah, loaded with safari, not chrome, odd :P
[10:05] <fsphil> ah
[10:05] <fsphil> using firefox here
[10:05] <fsphil> strange, chrome and safari are almost identical
[10:07] <cuddykid> does looks like a float :D
[10:08] <x-f> what altitude does it show to you?
[10:11] <x-f> nevermind.
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[10:34] <cuddykid> sunrise hence outside temp warming?
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[11:20] <jcoxon> How's it flying?
[11:23] <x-f> not so great, -6 km in last 20 minutes
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[11:23] <x-f> ballast is being dropped to gain the altitude again
[11:24] <x-f> :(
[11:25] <x-f> now only 4.8 km altitude
[11:26] <jcoxon> Eek
[11:28] <cuddykid> oh dear :/
[11:30] <cuddykid> it's coming down
[11:30] <x-f> 2.6
[11:31] <cuddykid> must have burst
[11:31] <jcoxon> Pull up, pull up
[11:32] <cuddykid> can someone send command to drop all of ballast?
[11:33] <x-f> yes, but i don't think it would help now
[11:33] <cuddykid> probably not
[11:34] <x-f> they'we sent the cutdown command
[11:34] <x-f> they have*
[11:36] <fsphil> ah nuts
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[11:38] <cuddykid> ahh well
[11:39] <cuddykid> big shame though considering all the effort that has gone into it
[11:39] <cuddykid> hopefully it can be recovered in tact to fly another day :D
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[11:42] <fsphil> hopefully, although I'm not sure any of them will have the energy left to try again
[11:42] <x-f> it's not in the middle of the ocean at least
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[11:44] <x-f> we should keep them motivated to fix all the glitches and fly it properly when the jetstream returns next winter
[11:46] <x-f> it just can't end like this.
[11:48] <fsphil> agreed
[11:51] <Darkside> http://i.imgur.com/PD3MV.jpg
[11:51] <Darkside> ugh
[11:54] <fsphil> space invaders?
[11:54] <Darkside> its a filter bank
[11:54] <fsphil> complex beastie
[11:54] <Darkside> all the footprints are combined footprints, for multiple types of varicap and tunable inductor
[11:54] <Darkside> i'm probably going to have to change the capacitor footprint
[11:55] <fsphil> why four filters?
[11:55] <Darkside> its 4 bandpass filters
[11:56] <Darkside> preselection filters for a HF SDR
[11:56] <fsphil> ah
[11:56] <fsphil> nice
[11:56] <Darkside> 1-4MHz, 4-8MHz, 8-16MHz, and 16-32MHz
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[12:21] <Lunar_Lander__> hello
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[13:04] <fsphil> it is seriously windy here
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[16:04] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[16:05] <cuddykid> hi jcoxon
[16:06] <cuddykid> jcoxon: do you have a pico/long duration flight planned soon?
[16:06] <jcoxon> yeah
[16:06] <jcoxon> soon
[16:06] <jcoxon> when the weather is nice
[16:06] <cuddykid> great :D
[16:06] <jcoxon> i've got a payload ready to fly
[16:06] <cuddykid> they're always good
[16:06] <NigeyS> jcoxon, launch already dammit! :p
[16:07] <jcoxon> wind is too high
[16:07] <NigeyS> yup, nasty here today :/
[16:07] <cuddykid> jcoxon: will it be a big balloon or a pico?
[16:07] <jcoxon> pico
[16:08] <jcoxon> though might do a 35km floater
[16:09] <jcoxon> prob be in 2 weeks time
[16:10] <cuddykid> :)
[16:12] <UpuMobile> good I'll be back
[16:12] <cuddykid> where are you UpuMobile? on hols?
[16:13] <griffonbot> Received email: David Akerman "[UKHAS] Possible launches19th or 20th May"
[16:14] <jcoxon> any news from SB1?
[16:14] <UpuMobile> in the lakes cuddykid
[16:14] <UpuMobile> http://youtu.be/AJWZrkuXPP0
[16:15] <cuddykid> nice UpuMobile, good weather :D
[16:15] <UpuMobile> its been great for 2 days actuallyt
[16:15] <UpuMobile> got sunburnt
[16:15] <UpuMobile> not intentionally
[16:17] <number10> missed you this time UpuMobile - going to the lakes in 2 weeks
[16:17] <cuddykid> those go pros are great
[16:17] <UpuMobile> shucks no more random meetings
[16:17] <UpuMobile> yeah getting as much use as I can out of it before I loose it in the north sea cuddykid
[16:18] <cuddykid> haha
[16:18] <number10> lol, if it happend for a second time I think Mrs Upu would thing we were stalking you
[16:18] <UpuMobile> lol
[16:18] <daveake> :)
[16:18] <cuddykid> love the fish eye style effect that happens naturally
[16:18] <UpuMobile> we are in Eskdale this time
[16:18] <daveake> I'm not a fan of that
[16:18] <UpuMobile> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6_HRd4He8A&feature=youtu.be
[16:18] <UpuMobile> it makes the sky look very blue
[16:18] <UpuMobile> this was yesterday
[16:19] <daveake> Looks weird when it camera view moves vertically ... the curve of the Earth changes
[16:19] <daveake> mmmmBeer
[16:19] <number10> nice UpuMobile glad to see its a beer this time rather than a cream tea
[16:20] <UpuMobile> number10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4aCY1BJO9s&feature=relmfu with GoPro everything is xtreme
[16:21] <number10> lol great stuff looks like you are having fun UpuMobile
[16:21] <UpuMobile> yup just finished the book on how Longditude was invented too
[16:22] <UpuMobile> so beer and education :)
[16:22] <number10> nice clear picture on that gopro
[16:22] <UpuMobile> shame about SB-1
[16:22] <UpuMobile> do we know what went wrong ?
[16:24] <number10> not sure - there is nothing on the white star news page
[16:24] <number10> last tweet was Tweets: SB1 on the ground again, appear to have suffered a latex burst at sunrise, secondary ZP carried payload to ground in Ohio. 4 hours ago
[16:27] <jcoxon> no news i've learnt is not good news in the balloon world
[16:28] <UpuMobile> lol no
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[16:36] <cuddykid> it seemed to ascend quite a bit before burst - perhaps too much ballast was let out?
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[16:57] <fsphil> the hybrid was always gonna be risky
[17:04] <jcoxon> indeed
[17:23] <jcoxon> been looking at the internal temp sensor in teh arduino328
[17:24] <jcoxon> atemga328 that is
[17:28] <fsphil> anywhere near accurate?
[17:28] <fsphil> all my atmegas don't have it afaik
[17:28] <jcoxon> its very inaccurate
[17:28] <jcoxon> as it heats up with use
[17:28] <jcoxon> but i was thinking that for us thats quite useful
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[17:30] <daveake> Looking at getting a Yaesu 817ND to replace the 790 that died ... has anyone used one with the bhiDSP option and if so is it worthwhile for HAB use?
[17:34] <fsphil> never seen one going
[17:34] <fsphil> just watching a vid on youtube, sounds good for voice
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[17:35] <gonzo__> possibly ok on low speed data, but could corrupt data
[17:35] <fsphil> yea. data is noisy
[17:36] <gonzo__> it's that the dps wil digitise and analyise the sound
[17:36] <gonzo__> filtering out noise, but the algoryth will be potimised for voice
[17:36] <gonzo__> could cause problems with tones
[17:37] <gonzo__> my 847 has a useful dsp auto notch filter
[17:37] <gonzo__> great for voice, but in data where it is fixed tones....
[17:38] <daveake> Yeah, this is what I thought might be the case
[17:38] <gonzo__> would not pay extra for one dave, if you only want it for hab
[17:38] <daveake> I watched the YT video and it was impressive for voice
[17:38] <fsphil> I've not played with the filters on the 857, I think it has some narrow modes
[17:38] <daveake> Well, RW have a used 817 with the dsp at about the same price as a new one without
[17:39] <daveake> So if it's no use for HAB then I think the new one is the better bet
[17:39] <gonzo__> you could always get a bhi external speaker later if you wnated
[17:39] <gonzo__> agree dave
[17:40] <gonzo__> my 817 has no dsp, and is a fantastic piece of kit
[17:40] <daveake> I've played with the NR in HDSDR, using my FCD, and you can get some impressive S/N ratios but I couldn't really detect an improvement in decoding
[17:40] <gonzo__> (not had dsp, so don't miss it!)
[17:40] <daveake> :)
[17:40] <daveake> I may be delving into my HAB budget soon then :p
[17:41] <daveake> Having seen a couple in use recently I now realise how relatively noisy my scanner is
[17:41] <gonzo__> after I used one, I ebayed all my ft290's and .mil HF radios etc. All junk compared
[17:42] <daveake> Yeah, I can see that happening with my scanner
[17:42] <gonzo__> only criticism of the 817 is, batts don';t last long and they take more current on rx than an old FT290/790
[17:42] <daveake> How long on batts?
[17:43] <daveake> Though it can run from the car anyway
[17:43] <daveake> Presoomably the car adapter is included?
[17:43] <gonzo__> mine is always flat so always use it on the 12v
[17:43] <daveake> Is yours the ND? Has a larger battery I think
[17:43] <fsphil> the car adapter is sold separatly
[17:44] <fsphil> but you could make your own
[17:44] <gonzo__> if you charge the batts before a HAB chase, you can run on the car, then it should be fine for at least half an hour they you need it portable to track the beacon
[17:44] <jcoxon> the charging is tedious
[17:44] <jcoxon> as its a set time
[17:44] <gonzo__> just a fag lighter plug with fuse and a connector for the radio, it runs on 12v np
[17:45] <daveake> Oh I've made plenty like that before :)
[17:45] <daveake> Might even have one with the right plug
[17:45] <fsphil> the yaesu one has some filters too but probably not worth it
[17:45] <gonzo__> yep, jcoxon, 6hrs min. Though that's probably fair for nicads
[17:45] <fsphil> unless you have a really RF noisy engine
[17:45] <gonzo__> only need new filters for CW work
[17:46] <gonzo__> filters won't help engine noise
[17:46] <fsphil> the 817 doesn't fit in my car properly :) I've nowhere I can set it
[17:46] <daveake> Not noticed any noise yet from my car or Julies
[17:46] <gonzo__> modern cars should be pretty clean RF wise
[17:46] <fsphil> mine has a bit of a buzz on the HF frequencies but that's not important
[17:47] <gonzo__> tricks like grounding the bonnet etx and some ferrite clip overs helps HF
[17:47] <daveake> I sometimes get a high pictched noise from the passenger side .... :p
[17:47] <gonzo__> right, ttfo here. LAters
[17:47] <fsphil> I did try HF mobile once with the 2m/70cm magmount. I was able to tune it but nobody heard me ;)
[17:49] <jcoxon> daveake, careful!
[17:50] <jcoxon> jonsowman, ping
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[17:58] <cuddykid> batts are rubbish in my ft817 too - but they last out for a day of chasing
[17:58] <cuddykid> great bit of kit though
[18:00] <jcoxon> agreed
[18:01] <daveake> You guys are not helping me to save money ... :)
[18:06] <jonsowman> jcoxon: around for literally one min, whats up?
[18:09] <jonsowman> be back in a couple of hours
[18:09] <jonsowman> text me if it's urgent
[18:09] <jonsowman> bbl
[18:10] <UpuMobile> I've never managed to run my FT817 flat
[18:11] <fsphil> mine ran out on the first launch I did- had to plug it into the car via an inverter
[18:11] <fsphil> the laptop had also run out, so was switching between the radio and that for a while
[18:12] <fsphil> I always bring a double adaptor now :)
[18:12] <daveake> :-)
[18:12] <UpuMobile> the 817 on RX only lasts 5 hours + ?
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[18:12] <UpuMobile> never tested it tbh
[18:12] <daveake> After Julie's car going flat I now have a large car starter / battery pack / inverter thing
[18:13] <UpuMobile> I have an invertor for the laptop
[18:13] <UpuMobile> I bought a 12v to whatever the voltage is convertor for the laptop
[18:13] <UpuMobile> but it produces huge amounts of RF noise on 2meters
[18:14] <UpuMobile> M0RJX had one similar with same issues
[18:14] <daveake> I suspect some of those things are marked "CE" for "Chinese Export"
[18:14] <fsphil> mine won't work from a regular 12v battery
[18:14] <UpuMobile> lol
[18:14] <UpuMobile> I got 500W invetor from maplins when they were on offer
[18:14] <UpuMobile> £29
[18:14] <fsphil> oh nice
[18:14] <jcoxon> jonsowman, joey-m licence
[18:14] <daveake> not bad at all
[18:14] <jcoxon> ?
[18:15] <fsphil> is it quiet?
[18:15] <UpuMobile> yup
[18:15] <UpuMobile> works fine
[18:15] <fsphil> mine's a belkin and you'd hear it in the car behind me
[18:15] <UpuMobile> when I win the lottery I'll get a pure sine wave one
[18:17] <fsphil> seems a shame going from DC to AC, only to go back to DC
[18:17] <UpuMobile> not the most efficient way of doing it really
[18:18] <daveake> Nope
[18:18] <daveake> I got a neat but only 100W inverter in Macro, on sale for £10
[18:18] <daveake> Not actually used it yet
[18:18] <UpuMobile> 100w wouldn't even power the netbook PSU
[18:18] <UpuMobile> it needs 180w
[18:19] <daveake> Netbook? Wow. Should be more like 50
[18:20] <UpuMobile> the 150W invertor just beeps and shuts down if I plug it in
[18:20] <UpuMobile> 1.2A @240V
[18:21] <UpuMobile> someone do the maths I've had a glass of wine or two
[18:21] <daveake> 288
[18:21] <daveake> don't believe it
[18:21] <SpeedEvil> Are you sure it doesn't say 1.2A@90-240v?
[18:24] <jcoxon> bbiab
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[18:25] <UpuMobile> input 100-240v 1.2A(1.2A)
[18:25] <UpuMobile> output 19V@2.1A
[18:25] <UpuMobile> does seem like alot but thats what it says and a 150W invertor can't power it
[18:25] <UpuMobile> Samsung NC10
[18:25] <daveake> Sounds more like it. Also power isn't V * A because they're switching supplies
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[18:39] <griffonbot> @LVL1WhiteStar: Great flight! Even though we had to cut most non-flight critical experiments, amazing work paid off. #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/LVL1WhiteStar/status/201743564361838592]
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[19:51] <Lunar_Lander_> hello
[19:51] <Lunar_Lander_> labour does the government in duesseldorf in a coaliation with the greens
[19:52] <Lunar_Lander_> that is awesome
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[20:10] <Zuph> Good Mornafternoon, #highaltitude
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander_> hello
[20:11] <Zuph> How's it going, Lunar_Lander_ ?
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander_> I am OK, thanks and you?
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander_> my ear doesn't hurt anymore
[20:12] <Lunar_Lander_> how is the technical status Zuph ?
[20:13] <Zuph> heh, on the ground in a hayfield, probably in a great many number of pieces.
[20:15] <Lunar_Lander_> OHHH
[20:15] <Lunar_Lander_> what happened?
[20:16] <Laurenceb_> http://www.jimcromwell.com/landfill/angular_merkel_for_web.jpg
[20:17] <Zuph> We think our Latex balloon burst in the rising sun.
[20:17] <Lunar_Lander_> yes
[20:17] <Lunar_Lander_> what exactly did you do?
[20:17] <Lunar_Lander_> Laurenceb_, a comment on germany :P?
[20:18] <Laurenceb_> Zuph: i dont see it on spacenear
[20:18] <Zuph> Laurenceb_: We weren't on spacenear this year. http://track.whitestarballoon.com
[20:18] <fsphil> I suppose the big question: what now?
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander_> Laurenceb_, XD
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander_> Zuph, OK you put speedball-1 on a latex balloon?
[20:19] <Zuph> We used a hybrid ZP/Latex system to get more altitude.
[20:19] <Laurenceb_> thats.. different
[20:20] <Zuph> Indeed.
[20:20] <Zuph> Last minute flight profile change. Dan wanted to avoid any air traffic.
[20:20] <Lunar_Lander_> then the latex balloon burst and the system fell down?
[20:20] <Lunar_Lander_> ah
[20:20] <Zuph> Yeah
[20:20] <Lunar_Lander_> and was destroyed on impact
[20:20] <Zuph> We filled the Latex to roughly neutral lift with payload, then put about 1kg of lift in the ZP.
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[20:21] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander_> hello nosebleedkt
[20:21] <Zuph> The system leveled out like it should have, but the latex burst lower than we calculated.
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander_> yes
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander_> and the ZP started down Zuph ?
[20:24] <Zuph> Yes, it didn't have enough lift to keep the payload floating at any altitude.
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander_> ah
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander_> that meant it crashed as you said
[20:28] <Zuph> Yes.
[20:29] <Zuph> Either on a hayfield, or a bible college.
[20:29] <Lunar_Lander_> ohhh
[20:34] <nosebleedkt> hi all
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander_> hello nosebleedkt
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander_> nosebleedkt, how are you?
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[21:08] <nosebleedkt> eee
[21:08] <nosebleedkt> i go to sleep
[21:08] <nosebleedkt> :P
[21:08] <nosebleedkt> cu arround !
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[21:28] <jonsowman> jcoxon: ping
[21:29] <jcoxon> hey jon
[21:30] <jonsowman> hiya
[21:30] <jonsowman> what did you want to know about joey?
[21:30] <jcoxon> oh - i've been doing code comments
[21:30] <jcoxon> was wondering if the code had a licence
[21:30] <jonsowman> ah, got you
[21:30] <jonsowman> yes i should sort that out
[21:31] <jonsowman> GPL perhaps
[21:31] <jonsowman> are you just wanting to credit the code?
[21:31] <jcoxon> bit of both
[21:31] <jcoxon> just making sure
[21:31] <jonsowman> consider it GPL for now
[21:31] <jonsowman> i'll update the source when i get a min
[21:31] <jcoxon> no issues
[21:31] <jonsowman> if you want to credit it, just "Joey-M - CU Spaceflight"
[21:32] <jonsowman> :)
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[21:36] <Lunar_Lander_> XD
[21:36] <Lunar_Lander_> were there other flights than the speedball-1 attempt this weekend?
[21:40] <jcoxon> jonsowman, okay i added GPL v3
[21:41] <jonsowman> thanks jcoxon
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[21:43] <Lunar_Lander_> hello jcoxon , jonquark_
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander_> sorry
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander_> jonsowman,
[21:43] <jonsowman> hi
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander_> were there other flights than the speedball-1 attempt this weekend?
[21:44] <jcoxon> nope
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander_> thanks
[21:44] <fsphil> yea, oddly quiet
[21:44] <jcoxon> weather is blowy here
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander_> at least my ear doesn't hurt anymore
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander_> that was really bad yesterday
[21:46] <fsphil> yea the wind's finally calmed down here
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander_> but jcoxon I got a question
[21:46] <fsphil> it got pretty wild earlier
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander_> why can a local pain bring down a man like that?
[21:48] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander_, thats life!
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[21:48] <fsphil> evolution. the genes don't care :)
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander_> like when I put my finger on the targus, it was like OHHHHH
[21:50] <fsphil> there's a few launches coming up soon anyway
[21:50] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[21:50] <Lunar_Lander_> ohhh no!
[21:50] <Lunar_Lander_> there is something called brain softening or so
[21:50] <Lunar_Lander_> that sounds cruel
[21:50] <fsphil> stop reading medical stuff online :p
[21:50] <fsphil> it's not healthy
[21:52] <jcoxon> good old Dr Google
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[21:52] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
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[22:55] <SolarNRG> Is anyone in here any good at "lost wax" metal casting?
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