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[00:20] <Darkside> schofieldau: yep
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[00:22] <Lunar_Lander_> good night!
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[01:45] <schofieldau> Darkside: are you around the uni today?
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[04:56] <schofieldau> anybody know what resistors i need to drive ntx2 from 3.3v arduino
[04:58] <SamSilver> 3.9k and 4.7k iirc
[05:08] <schofieldau> making sure i get the right ones what are the band colours
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[05:15] <Darkside> schofieldau: 39K and 47K
[05:15] <Darkside> and yes, i'm around uni today
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[05:24] <schofieldau> don't hall
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[05:25] <schofieldau> whoops. dont happen to have a radko with you?
[05:25] <Darkside> i think i have something that can do sideband
[05:26] <Darkside> if not theres enough software defined radios around here to sink a ship
[05:26] <schofieldau> how late are you in
[05:27] <Darkside> only till about 5:30 tonight
[05:28] <schofieldau> mind if i come in?
[05:30] <Darkside> no probs here
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[05:32] <schofieldau> cool. see you at some point
[05:50] <schofieldau> darkside: which building?
[05:53] <Darkside> schofieldau: eng north
[05:53] <Darkside> level 2
[05:53] <Darkside> last time you were in the new engineering building
[05:54] <Darkside> i'm in room N246
[05:54] <Darkside> it has a sign on teh door saying "PHASED ARRAY LAB"
[06:05] <Upu> how wierd thats what it says on my office door too
[06:05] <Darkside> :P
[06:07] <Upu> http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=warning+science#/d3g4dv4
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[06:11] <Darkside> there is a schofield in the room
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[06:44] <jcoxon> morning all
[06:46] <UpuWork> morning
[06:48] <daveake> morning
[06:55] <number10> morning
[06:59] <x-f> morning
[07:03] <fsphil> "
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[07:54] <schofieldau> hey jdtanner
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[08:23] <jdtanner> schofieldau: Hi there! Still no hardware this end :(
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[08:25] <jdtanner> But we are planning on launching next weekend with help from Upu :)
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[08:38] <jcoxon> do LDOs exist that can provide multiple voltage outputs
[08:38] <jcoxon> ?
[08:38] <SpeedEvil> I vaguely remember seeing some, yes
[08:39] <SpeedEvil> They'll almost certainly cost more than two seperate
[08:42] <UpuWork> usually easier to just use 2 seperate ones jcoxon
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[09:13] <jcoxon> have the cost of ICs gone up massively in the last 6 months?
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[09:56] <NickB1> -> http://www.owon.com.cn/eng/smartDS.asp
[09:56] <NickB1> bought my first scope :)
[09:56] <NickB1> SDS7102
[09:56] Action: SpeedEvil imagines a SDS scope.
[09:57] <SpeedEvil> http://www.screwfix.com/c/tools/sds-plus-drill-bits/cat830226 - probes
[09:57] <NickB1> haha
[09:58] <NickB1> should last long ;)
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[10:05] <daveake> NickB1 good choice :p
[10:09] <navrac> ah daveake - what was that port you found on fldigi that gave you the strings from the payload?
[10:10] <navrac> I'll write it down this time
[10:11] <jonsowman> tcp port for the rx buffer is 7362
[10:11] <jonsowman> if that's what you're asking
[10:12] <Matt_soton> i thought it was 7322?
[10:12] <jonsowman> oh it did get changed at one point
[10:12] <Matt_soton> why :/
[10:12] <gonzo_> be interested to see how you rate that scope NickB1
[10:13] <gonzo_> I've been meaning to buy a storeage scope for years
[10:13] <jonsowman> Matt_soton: who knows
[10:13] <jonsowman> Matt_soton: "changed to 7233"
[10:13] <Matt_soton> recently?
[10:13] <Matt_soton> i may have my numbers the wrong way round
[10:13] <jonsowman> in 3.1
[10:14] <Matt_soton> either way easy enough to find out what it is on yours
[10:14] <Matt_soton> 1Mpt FFT takes a while
[10:14] <jonsowman> :)
[10:14] <jonsowman> unsurprising
[10:15] <Matt_soton> only has one core, poor thing
[10:15] <Matt_soton> at least my noise line is nice and flat, instead of lots of moving spikes
[10:15] <AE> NickB1: nice - sub 500 euros?
[10:16] <daveake> navrac 7322
[10:17] <jonsowman> well you've got three different answers now
[10:17] <daveake> Mine is the right one :)
[10:17] <jonsowman> let me know which one works
[10:17] <daveake> Well it works in the dl-fldigi I have here :-)
[10:17] <navrac> ok - I'll try them all - starting with 7322
[10:17] <jonsowman> haha ok
[10:17] <jonsowman> god knows why they bothered changing it
[10:18] <daveake> Maybe something else used whatever it was before it changed to whater it changed to
[10:18] <fsphil> or why it even exists
[10:18] <daveake> Anyway, 7322 works with 3.20.29
[10:19] <Matt_soton> winrar is me
[10:19] <jonsowman> lol
[10:20] <jonsowman> fsphil: it has proved useful...
[10:20] <fsphil> indeed it has
[10:20] <fsphil> makes me wonder if we should have another port that outputs verified data
[10:20] <Matt_soton> joey would have been screwed without it
[10:20] <Matt_soton> or at least chase car would
[10:20] <jonsowman> Matt_soton: why?
[10:20] <jonsowman> just read the data from the rx buffer in fldigi
[10:20] <Matt_soton> he didnt have internet
[10:21] <Matt_soton> no mapping without it
[10:21] <Matt_soton> *we
[10:21] <jonsowman> yeah it was helpful, but not essential
[10:21] <Matt_soton> would have been a massive pita to copy coordinates
[10:22] <jonsowman> yeah well we would have just waited until landing and then put the coords in the satnav
[10:22] <Matt_soton> but we wouldnt ave been able to hear it on the ground
[10:22] <jonsowman> hard to say how close we would have been really
[10:23] <Elmar_work> NickB1: Where you've bought the scope?
[10:23] <fsphil> I've love a satnav that can accept coordinates via serial or usb
[10:23] <jonsowman> fsphil: yeah, me too
[10:23] <Matt_soton> priyesh needs to hurry up with his app
[10:24] <Matt_soton> is there a api to send a location to the maps app so that it updates driving coords?
[10:25] <jdtanner> Morning chaps. Have any of you used a backup USB battery pack with a go pro?
[10:26] <jonsowman> yes but not on a balloon (yet)
[10:26] <fsphil> I think the horus guys power their gopros through the usb ports
[10:26] <fsphil> -s
[10:27] <jdtanner> Ok, so it doesn't override the internal battery? I'm thinking about flying a battery booster with the go pro
[10:30] <daveake> I've found the port thing really useful for my chase car setup. It helped Upu and I get in place to watch the payload floating down
[10:31] <daveake> btw chaps, a friend of mine Tony Rose will hopefully turn up here sometime. He's started his own tracker, called "Spiderpig" :-)
[10:31] <jonsowman> excellent choice of name
[10:31] <UpuWork> lol
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[10:34] <eroomde> jonsowman: assuming no word back from CC
[10:34] <eroomde> not a disaster if not
[10:34] <jdtanner> UpuWork: Have you still got that battery booster kicking around?
[10:34] <jonsowman> eroomde: will chase again
[10:34] <jonsowman> sec
[10:34] <eroomde> ta
[10:34] <eroomde> might be good to have a backup is all
[10:35] <UpuWork> I have yes
[10:35] <jonsowman> eroomde: sure, emailing him now
[10:35] <eroomde> the first comapyn seem to be a bit delayed getting them back to me so an option to bosh some off on monday would be super
[10:35] <UpuWork> its got the wrong end on but can change it to a micro usb if needed
[10:35] <jonsowman> urgh, stupid macbook saving sent mail locally
[10:36] <eroomde> lolzor
[10:36] <eroomde> i tend to just uise the gmail interfce now
[10:36] <eroomde> and fire up mail every now and then just as a backup
[10:36] <eroomde> can't trust the goog too much
[10:36] <jdtanner> I'm thinking about power for the go pro...don't worry if it is a pain
[10:37] <jonsowman> done
[10:37] <eroomde> ta
[10:38] <jonsowman> oh god
[10:38] <jonsowman> there's a reply on my mbp from him
[10:38] <jonsowman> why... is it not in the imap folder
[10:38] <Matt_soton> lol macs
[10:38] <jonsowman> that makes absolutely no sense
[10:40] <jonsowman> im so confused
[10:40] <fsphil> I's lol mac, but I've seen imap-based email clients do all sorts of weird things on many different platforms
[10:40] <fsphil> I'd*
[10:40] <eroomde> google imap seems very odd too
[10:41] <jonsowman> ok ed, reply to that email with gerbers
[10:41] <jonsowman> sorry about that, i blame Apple.
[10:41] <eroomde> which email - the one you just sent?
[10:41] <jonsowman> the follow up i just sent saying "oops sorry"
[10:41] <jonsowman> :P
[10:41] <eroomde> oh yes got it
[10:41] <eroomde> ok thanks
[10:42] <eroomde> ok cool
[10:42] <eroomde> i'll get that out by eop today
[10:42] <jonsowman> cool
[10:42] <jonsowman> i'll pick them up and post them to you if necessary
[10:42] <jonsowman> i would expect them to be done before end of next week, probably weds/thurs
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[10:46] <Randomskk> lol macs and mail
[10:47] <jonsowman> so confusing
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[11:02] <cuddykid_> random power cut
[11:02] <cuddykid_> ahh that'll be why
[11:03] <cuddykid_> storms in the area
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[11:08] <eroomde> ah infact
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[11:08] <eroomde> pcb-pool will do me 3 of these on a next working day service for £150
[11:08] <eroomde> that's doable
[11:09] <jonsowman> if that's on CUSF budget it'd be better to use CCC ;)
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[11:11] <fsphil> we've got thunderstorms forecast for here later today
[11:11] <fsphil> yays
[11:11] <cuddykid> http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=lightning;sess=
[11:11] <cuddykid> in the middle of it all :P
[11:12] <cuddykid> WillDuckworth: have you sent off for any more permish?
[11:15] <WillDuckworth> hi cuddykid - nothing yet, really should though eh!
[11:16] <eroomde> nothing is on the cusf budget anymore
[11:19] <cuddykid> WillDuckworth: haha, my next launch window will be June sometime - mid to late probably :)
[11:20] <cuddykid> jonsowman: how are you getting permission for rockoon from CAA? (or is it just a standard rocket launched from ground?)
[11:21] <eroomde> it wouldn't be a rockoon if it was launched from the ground
[11:22] <eroomde> is this the one in scotland?
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[11:23] <NickB1> gonzo_, havent done much testing, but reviews come out very good
[11:23] <NickB1> AE, paid 500 euros :)
[11:24] <NickB1> with battery
[11:24] Nick change: AE -> Elwell
[11:24] <NickB1> Elmar_work, bought it at http://www.eleshop.nl/nieuwe-serie-owon-sds7102-p-480.html
[11:25] <Elwell> nice. SWMBO may object though :-)
[11:26] <Elwell> I need more of an excuse than 'it's shiny!'
[11:27] <NickB1> haha
[11:27] <NickB1> good luck
[11:27] <Elwell> 'it's like my 9 euro multimeter, but bigger'?
[11:28] <daveake> My usual excuse is "It's for work" but I suspect MrsDave has rumbled that one
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[11:28] <navrac> i'm tempted.. better check the ank balance first
[11:28] <Elmar_work> NickB1: I saw that shop... seems to be cheaper than importing from abroad and pay all the taxes :-(
[11:29] <navrac> yep thats what i thought
[11:29] <NickB1> yes indeed
[11:29] <NickB1> I ordered one for a friend to
[11:30] <NickB1> got a little bit off
[11:30] <Elmar_work> sounds good
[11:31] <NickB1> they also dont like to put lithium batteries in a plane if you order abroad :)
[11:33] <Elwell> heh from the manual -- 7 FAQ ... If this product still can not work normally, please get in touch with Lilliput and
[11:33] <Elwell> we will be under your service.
[11:34] <Elwell> ah my bad - didn't twig they were same co
[11:35] <NickB1> work time
[11:35] <NickB1> bye all
[11:36] <cuddykid> my upload speed is just horrendous :(
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[11:36] <Elmar_work> worktime is almost over here ;-)
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[11:54] <UpuWork> interesting Sparkfun referencing natrium42's Spot work, can't spell his name though
[11:54] <UpuWork> "So I set out to replicate Narium43's work. "
[11:57] <daveake> Yeah, saw that
[11:57] <daveake> Stupid cold callers. "Hello Mr Akerman, we're calling about your car accident...."
[11:57] <daveake> (surprisingly I haven't had one for decades)
[11:57] <daveake> Me: "Riight. Your database is shit isn't it?"
[11:57] <UpuWork> they aren't allowed to do that I'm sure
[11:57] <daveake> "beeeeeep"
[11:58] <UpuWork> I have no patience I want 2 to call me at once so I can lnik them togehter
[11:58] <daveake> Nope. And we're reistered with the TPS so they shouldn't be calling anyway
[11:58] <daveake> lol
[11:58] <daveake> I want a phone system so I can enter them into a maze of menus, all the same
[11:59] <fsphil> adventure game phone system!
[11:59] <daveake> Exactly :)
[11:59] <daveake> There's a great audio clip on the web where someone, fed up with cold callers, pretended to be a police inspector at a murder scene
[11:59] <daveake> Hilarious
[12:01] <daveake> http://www.myspace.com/video/some-blue-devil/telemarketer-prank-cold-call-very-funny/16733006
[12:01] <kokey> ah yeah I remember than one
[12:02] <kokey> daveake: I think building a phone menu system is quite easy nowadays, with all the hardware cards they use with asterisk
[12:02] <r2x0t> If you have Asterix VOIP,there are scripts for that: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Telemarketer+Torture
[12:02] <daveake> Yeah, I did build my own Asterisk system ages ago. Never got round to doing this though
[12:02] <daveake> :D
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[12:04] <r2x0t> some MP3s here of it in action: http://www.voiptechchat.com/voip/286/asterisk-101-uses-telemarketer-torture/
[12:07] <kokey> r2x0t: that script is funny
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[12:14] <r2x0t> <daveake> ...pretended to be a police inspector at a murder scene
[12:15] <r2x0t> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MA-juXREmI&feature=related
[12:15] <r2x0t> Really funny
[12:16] <kokey> in the early morning hours while I was asleep, I got a tap on my arm
[12:16] <kokey> I woke up, and my girlfriend asked me if she is awake or dreaming
[12:16] <kokey> and I told her we're both awake now
[12:16] <kokey> and she said what is that in the lounge?
[12:16] <kokey> and I couldn't hear much, and she said she could hear people talking
[12:16] <kokey> one person really, but talking
[12:17] <SpeedEvil> you'd left the radio on from tracking?
[12:17] <kokey> turns out it was the TV, I switched to a channel that wasn't broadcasting anything, so the screen went into a sleep mode and she thought it was off when we went to bed
[12:18] <kokey> only to come on at 4am or something showing some public service ads
[12:18] <SpeedEvil> ah
[12:18] <kokey> but to make things funnier, when I opened the lounge door the ad that was showing had a bright white background, so she saw the white light reflecting on my face
[12:19] <SpeedEvil> :)
[12:20] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIJINiK9azc - at 4AM in the dark.
[12:20] <SpeedEvil> Possibly may result in murder.
[12:20] <kokey> well I did switch the TV back to that channel again this morning before leaving for work
[12:20] <kokey> she's at home today, alone, job hunting
[12:20] <kokey> the volume is turned up too
[12:22] <kokey> I don't know when something will broadcast again on there
[12:24] <kokey> I'm sure she will tell me
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[12:46] <Bob_G8NSV> hi all
[12:47] <Bob_G8NSV> after much agro and many unsolved odd probs, I now have my flight puter prototype chirping away merrilly!!
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[12:47] <kokey> cool
[12:47] <kokey> what did you use?
[12:47] <Bob_G8NSV> arduino and a simple nmea gps module
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[12:48] <Bob_G8NSV> its for a "pico solar" launch so not above the 14Km limit of my chip
[12:48] <Bob_G8NSV> gps module that is
[12:49] <kokey> ah ok, you want it to float?
[12:51] <Bob_G8NSV> yes it will float, the altitude depends on a lot of factors but probably wont max out over 30-35,000 ft
[12:52] <Bob_G8NSV> so my 14Km max on the GPS should be fine!
[12:54] <gonzo__> Bob_G8NSV, any ideas yet where you would be launching from?
[12:54] <Bob_G8NSV> no not yet, envelope still a long way off yet
[12:55] <gonzo__> where we are we are in the bournemouth and solent airspace
[12:55] <Bob_G8NSV> possibly Purbecks dependant on wind
[12:55] <griffonbot> Received email: Oliver de Peyer "[UKHAS] electrostatic precipitation to study bacteria in air samples"
[12:55] <gonzo__> so I'd doubt we would geta notam
[12:56] <gonzo__> yep, you sre clear of it over there.
[12:56] <Bob_G8NSV> its a pico so no notam required, way too much agro
[12:56] <Bob_G8NSV> keeping below the 2M rule
[12:57] <gonzo__> yep, it's far simpler. We are doing a pico in a few weeks to get some experince
[12:57] <Bob_G8NSV> which will also help keep the max alt well below 14Km!
[12:57] <gonzo__> then We are looking at north of verwood for our big launch.
[12:57] <Bob_G8NSV> somewhere like cranborne chase, no trees!!!
[12:58] <Bob_G8NSV> let me know i will come and assist if needed
[13:00] <gonzo__> we have a reasonable size team now, but you're welcome of course
[13:00] <gonzo__> (and only a few of us are radio men, so you'll probably get pressgabnged into something!)
[13:02] <gonzo__> one of our lot used to live over horton way and suggested this as a launch spot. As it's public Lat 50.8920 Lon -1.9675
[13:02] <gonzo__> a stine circle with a ruin on it.
[13:03] <gonzo__> Should be useable as long as the wind is steady
[13:03] <Bob_G8NSV> Ahhh That will be Knowlton know it well
[13:03] <Bob_G8NSV> should miss the tower OK!
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[13:07] <Bob_G8NSV> just going to pop out for a while as the suns out and I have spent hours on this payload all week
[13:07] <Bob_G8NSV> will leave it on soak test
[13:08] <Bob_G8NSV> just a couple of small issues in the code to fix, nothing I couldnt live without
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[13:08] <Bob_G8NSV> hi morseman
[13:08] <Morseman> GA Bob_G8NSV How are things with you?
[13:09] <Bob_G8NSV> fine got my flight puter running now
[13:09] <Bob_G8NSV> its sat here warbling away to fldigi
[13:09] <Morseman> That's good news what sort?
[13:09] <Bob_G8NSV> arduino with a simple nmea module
[13:09] <Bob_G8NSV> for my pico solar
[13:10] <Morseman> I've ot two PCs running from one keyboard/mouse/screen now :-)
[13:10] <Morseman> ^got
[13:10] <Bob_G8NSV> usefull!
[13:10] <daveake> Using "Synergy"?
[13:10] <mfa298> synergy ?
[13:10] <daveake> synergy
[13:10] <Morseman> No a KVM switch
[13:10] <daveake> ah ok
[13:11] <daveake> Synergy is a software KVM. Well KM reallt
[13:11] <daveake> y
[13:11] <mfa298> thats the old school way
[13:11] <Morseman> These are older PCs - need to have something on the KVM ports or they don't boot up
[13:11] <Bob_G8NSV> well chaps im off out while its still sunny, used the rainy days for coding!!
[13:11] <Bob_G8NSV> back later
[13:12] <Morseman> OK Bob_N8NSV any projected launch date yet?
[13:12] <daveake> Usually a BIOS setting so they don't need a keyboard
[13:12] <Bob_G8NSV> not yet envelope next
[13:12] <Bob_G8NSV> real "hands on"
[13:12] <mfa298> I've got three machines at work with synergy. The do all have keyboards connected but I normally only use the keyboard on one of them. Also means you can copy/paste between machines
[13:12] <Bob_G8NSV> not in front of a keyboard!!
[13:12] <Morseman> At least this way I can have the other PC monitoring DL-FLDigi and use Chat on this without slowing the 'Radio' PC down
[13:13] <Bob_G8NSV> thats what I do
[13:13] <Bob_G8NSV> but got 2 keyboards etc
[13:13] <Bob_G8NSV> see you all later!!!
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[13:13] <Morseman> OK Bob - CUL>>
[13:14] <daveake> Yeah, Synergy is sweet
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[13:15] <Morseman> I'd better go and do a bit more work - Only switched this on to check it would work :-)
[13:16] <mfa298> I'm not sure if it works on all platforms but on a mac we had it running two clients to different machines as well. Meaning one machine could be used by two different people.
[13:17] <mfa298> Which was fine until we argued about what music to play and both of use were trying to use it at the same time.
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[13:38] <fsphil> synergy is pretty cool
[13:38] <fsphil> we had a weird setup, two computers and three monitors. one mouse and keyboard doing them all
[13:41] <daveake> 3 PCs 6 mons 1 keyboard/mouse here
[13:42] <daveake> Sometimes a bit iffy on bootup but that's possibly a W7 64-bit thing
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[13:43] <mfa298> 3pcs and 5 monitors (with windows, mac and linux). I ought to add the W7 machine as well but that's a more interesting setup
[13:43] <fsphil> it did get the numlock mixed up when using an rdesktop window
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[13:55] <jonsowman> cuddykid: launching outside of CAA jurisdiction
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[13:58] <kokey> from a boat?
[13:59] <jonsowman> either abroad or from an MoD range in scotland
[14:01] <daveake> Anyone use "lead forming" tools for doing through-the-hole diodes etc? Worthwhile time-saver or waste of money?
[14:01] <cuddykid> jonsowman: ahh I see, is it a ground rocket or rockoon?
[14:01] <jonsowman> which one?
[14:01] <jonsowman> the MoD site one will be a rockoon
[14:02] <daveake> e.g. http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/0545086/
[14:05] <Randomskk> daveake: I've heard good things about using them if you have many parts
[14:05] <Randomskk> but I hear they're not worthwhile for a handful of bits
[14:05] <Randomskk> they do give you regular and repeatable lead bending though which looks nice ans is important if you're manufacturing a lot of stuff or whatever
[14:06] <Randomskk> eroomde: in another fun installment of "banks suck"
[14:06] <daveake> Sounds fair. I#ve got 25 boards to do, each with approx 50 such components, so I'm tending towards getting one
[14:06] <Randomskk> today involved withdrawing £2800 in 50s from one bank
[14:06] <Randomskk> walking down the high street with a thick wad of cash stuffed in my pocket
[14:06] <daveake> The neatness factor swings it :D
[14:06] <Randomskk> and depositing it into another bank
[14:06] <Randomskk> these rocket motors are friggin expensive
[14:07] <Randomskk> daveake: wow, yea, for those numbers I think it'd definitely be worth it
[14:07] <daveake> You'd have thought that these days there'd be a method that didn't require the portage of wads of paper :)
[14:07] <Randomskk> you'd think so
[14:07] <Randomskk> or that involved any kind of identification
[14:07] <Randomskk> but no
[14:07] <kokey> yeah, something with telegraph lines or something
[14:07] <kokey> imagine being able to send money... over the wire
[14:07] <daveake> Sounds futuristic but feasible :p
[14:07] <Randomskk> kokey: wouldn't that be the day.
[14:08] <Randomskk> if you know how many hours I've spent in a bank in the last three months just trying to get a chequebook...
[14:08] <Randomskk> jonsowman can attest
[14:08] <Randomskk> online banking might happen in my lifetime
[14:08] <Randomskk> we might even get a debit card in another few months/years
[14:08] <jonsowman> words fail me
[14:10] <daveake> Righto, ordered for delivery tomorrow :-) with some bits that seemed to have escaped the earlier parts order fror these boards.
[14:10] <daveake> Oh I'm so looking forward to working this weekend :p
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[14:31] <kokey> I work for a bank
[14:31] <kokey> and the bank's got some booths at some stadiums and other venues
[14:32] <kokey> but for staff to get tickets, they have to pay by cheque
[14:32] <Randomskk> :|
[14:32] <Randomskk> aren't we trying to phase out cheques
[14:32] <kokey> I haven't had a cheque book since 2004
[14:32] <Randomskk> what with them being an expensive hassle
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[14:33] <kokey> I guess it's their way to ensure only really old people take the spots in the booth
[14:40] <Laurenceb> cheques solve quite a few problems
[14:40] <Laurenceb> i use a few cheques a week on average
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[14:50] <fsphil> nice. just had a brief but impressive thunderstorm
[14:50] <Randomskk> Laurenceb: yea
[14:50] <Randomskk> yet banks seem very keen on phasing them out
[14:50] <Randomskk> I use them all the time
[14:50] <Randomskk> but frankly I would be happier doing online transfers all the time instead
[14:53] <kokey> I heard something about charities not accepting cheques any more
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[14:59] <cuddykid> all this talk of banks just reminded me to transfer an old isa :D now done, that was quick and easy
[15:07] <SpeedEvil> They've all changed over to PCIe
[15:07] <fsphil> boom boom
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[15:22] <Elmar_work> ":s/work/weekend/"
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[15:29] <staylo> Joke's on him, he forgot the /g. Somebody's back in the office tomorrow... ;)
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[15:57] <jdtanner> Anyone got any ideas of the best method to paint/colour a polystyrene box (our payload).
[15:58] <jdtanner> I think certain paints will eat polystyrene, but I don;t want to spend a load of money in B&Q findout out which ones :)
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[15:59] <jdtanner> I quite like the pink payload of UpuWork &certainly very visible!
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[16:03] <fsphil> certain kinds of pains will do
[16:03] <fsphil> acrylic I think
[16:03] <daveake> yep
[16:04] <jdtanner> Ok, I'm looking at some humbrol paints for making scenery for railways
[16:04] <daveake> Daler-Rowner do some fluorescent colours, including pink, in their "System 3" range
[16:04] <daveake> Rowney
[16:05] <fsphil> I've got some system3 acrylic here, gonna use that. oddly they sell florescent blue, which isn't that florescent
[16:05] <fsphil> but the yellow is really bright
[16:05] <daveake> Yep
[16:05] <jdtanner> Is it brush on?
[16:05] <daveake> yep
[16:05] <fsphil> yea
[16:06] <daveake> water soluble too so it cleans up easily
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[16:06] <jdtanner> Ok, might do that then&anyone recomend an online retailer?
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[16:07] <daveake> Got mine in hobbycraft. ISTR seeing it on ebay too.
[16:07] <jdtanner> Just seen this&anyone used it?
[16:07] <jdtanner> http://brchobbies.co.uk/?page=shop&item=48
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[16:11] <jdtanner> I think I'll go for the system 3 stuff&what is the coverage like?
[16:12] <daveake> I just bought a tube and there's plenty left after 3 small payloads
[16:12] <jdtanner> 75ml?
[16:12] <daveake> Yep
[16:12] <daveake> One coat is plenty
[16:12] <jdtanner> Do you need to mix it, or is it used 'uncut' :)
[16:12] <daveake> "uncut"
[16:13] <jdtanner> Great, thanks :)
[16:14] <number10> what colour did you get daveake ?
[16:15] <number10> number10 trying to guess the next payload theme
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[16:21] <jdtanner> System 3 150ml Fluorescent Yellow from http://www.artyfect.com/ delivered for £7&disturbingly easy to spend cash these days isn't it :/
[16:22] <fsphil> yay internet
[16:22] <jdtanner> My bank account doesn't say yay :P
[16:22] <fsphil> ooch internet
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[16:23] <jdtanner> Indeed&so next Saturday be on the look out for a orange chute, yellow payload, and a pink Ava dangler...tasteful
[16:23] <fsphil> I meant to get some orange, forgot
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[16:25] <jdtanner> they do it on that website for the same price
[16:25] <jdtanner> http://www.artyfect.com/acrylic_paints/daler-rowney-system-3-original-acrylic/daler-rowney-system-3-original-acrylic-150ml-tube/daler-rowney-system-3-original-fluorescent-orange-150ml-tube.html
[16:25] <fsphil> blue and yellow should be enough. it's a pretty unusual combination :)
[16:25] <jdtanner> I forgot we've also got Jaffa Tape to add orange go faster stripes...
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[16:29] <daveake> number10 Pink :p
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[16:53] <Bob_G8NSV> Hi All
[16:53] <Morseman> Hi again Bob
[16:54] <Bob_G8NSV> well the payload is looking great so far stable and doing its thing
[16:55] <Bob_G8NSV> it is still the breadboard version tho not the flight hardware
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[16:55] <Morseman> Good news - When you said you would be 'hands on' with the envelope did you mean home made?
[16:56] <Bob_G8NSV> indeed! got the plastic welder project first, but now got most of the bits for that just need some time in the workshop!
[17:00] <Bob_G8NSV> had a right nightmare with the payload code. I think tho there are some quirks with Arduino 1 IDE. if you have more than one instance running (useful when cutting and pasting code etc) if misses saving changes and maybe saves them in wrong instance
[17:01] <Bob_G8NSV> I ended up with working code reduced to garbage
[17:01] <Bob_G8NSV> but it does run in java!!!
[17:02] <Bob_G8NSV> done now tho and backups of working code
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[17:04] <Morseman> Ah, yes, I remember you saying it would be a 'solar' but thought you meant solar panels for power...
[17:05] <Morseman> Thanks for the advice about the Arduino, I'll have to try to remember when mine gets here
[17:05] <Morseman> I'd be interested in seeing a copy of your code if possible please?
[17:05] <Bob_G8NSV> yes solar pico envelope. sub 2M should give around 200grammes of lift
[17:06] <Bob_G8NSV> no problem, its not my original just heavily modified!!
[17:06] <Morseman> Now I've got the PCs sorted next job is to solder up the connector for the Ublox and make a 3.3v power supply and get it working
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[17:07] <Morseman> I was hoping to put the replacement 23cm preamp up but the thunder and lightning put me ff that idea!
[17:08] <Bob_G8NSV> I use a Fastrax gps module, small and light, rfm22 tx and flight cpu will be an arduino pro mini. 5V tho so will need a seperate 3.6v supply for the GPS and TX
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[17:08] <Bob_G8NSV> we just had a few bangs near me
[17:09] <Morseman> With the 1st flash I thought a lightbulb had blown...
[17:09] <Morseman> Daft really as don't have many tungstens in the house now
[17:11] <Bob_G8NSV> proper april showers this week
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[17:12] <Morseman> Looks like Peaksky are going to do a flight next Saturday now
[17:12] <Morseman> 1st one where I 'should' be able to hear it almost from ground level I hope
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[17:12] <Bob_G8NSV> anything flying this weekend?
[17:13] <jonsowman> astra from cambridge on sunday
[17:14] <Bob_G8NSV> good gety to test my yagi again, seems to work great
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[17:15] <Morseman> Typical! Looking for one thing for someone I found a brand new PIC12F509-I/P still in its bag!
[17:15] <x-f> http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/19apr_camilla/
[17:16] <Morseman> and a 16F505 - now all I need to do is remember what I bought them for...
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[17:22] <Bob_G8NSV> need to sort out a very small light 3.6v regulator
[17:22] <Morseman> From 5V?
[17:23] <Bob_G8NSV> the arduino mini pro works off 5v need 3.6 for the radio and gps a bit messy bigger arduinos give the 3.6v off bord
[17:23] <Bob_G8NSV> a lot of people use little buck psu's and parallell aaa's
[17:23] <jonsowman> which radio?
[17:23] <Bob_G8NSV> rfm22
[17:23] <jonsowman> ah ok
[17:24] <Bob_G8NSV> annoying I need 2 seperate supplies but cant be helped the pro mini is so small and light it just has to be that
[17:24] <Morseman> Maplin have some TS2950CT-3.3 for 99p that will do up to 150mA but not sure what the overhead needs to be
[17:25] <Bob_G8NSV> cant remember without looking at data sheets
[17:25] <Morseman> I must have wanted to make something that uses a 16F505 - just discovered two more in this draw!
[17:26] <jonsowman> Bob_G8NSV: are you doing a pico launch or latex?
[17:26] <Bob_G8NSV> pico solar!
[17:26] <jonsowman> :)
[17:27] <Bob_G8NSV> just under 2m
[17:28] <Morseman> Datashhest sugests it will work down to 2V input
[17:28] <Morseman> datasheet - even
[17:28] <Bob_G8NSV> will take a look later
[17:30] <gonzo__> are you sure you can get a soar under the 2mtr limts?
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[17:33] <Bob_G8NSV> building the envelope myself so it will be
[17:34] <gonzo__> I don't know the lifts of them, but assumed they were big
[17:34] <Bob_G8NSV> not a lot of lift less than 100g left for payload
[17:34] <gonzo__> (from the pics I've seen)
[17:35] <gonzo__> shuould be doable. My tracket is 54gm, and that's with a heavy old ntx2
[17:36] <Bob_G8NSV> there are some big ones but some design stuff i founs suggests a 1.8m spherical envelope will give enough lift
[17:37] <Bob_G8NSV> rate of climb will be slow and ceiling depends on loads of factors but prob not much higher than a standard pico launch
[17:38] <Bob_G8NSV> but guaranteed to float till dusk
[17:39] <Bob_G8NSV> which if launced early in the morning could take it hundreds of kms away
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[17:40] <Bob_G8NSV> so not expecting payload to ever be seen again!!
[17:40] <gonzo__> sounds fun
[17:41] <gonzo__> heard for ages though!
[17:41] <Bob_G8NSV> I hope so, 12 hours plus battery life should do it
[17:43] <Bob_G8NSV> keeping the payload costs to a min as effectively needs to be disposable
[17:44] <Morseman> Off to buy something for tea
[17:44] <Bob_G8NSV> a few pint worth!
[17:44] <Bob_G8NSV> mrs just made me some cracking encheladas!!
[17:44] <Morseman> AH Ha! The 16F505 was a eacon keyer project...
[17:44] <Morseman> beacon
[17:45] <Bob_G8NSV> ahh
[17:46] <Bob_G8NSV> got few 16-f-628's if they are any good to anyone?
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[17:48] <Bob_G8NSV> still sealed in packets 5 of em
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[17:51] <Bob_G8NSV> looks like these may do the job for my payload PSU http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/FA/FAN4860.pdf
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[17:59] <Lunar_Lander_> hello
[17:59] <Bob_G8NSV> hi ll
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[18:58] <Dutch-Mill> Hi all I'm having a conflict - ubx not working - after linking to the SDlib? Anyone?
[18:58] <Randomskk> run out of ram?
[18:59] <Dutch-Mill> How can i check this ?
[19:00] <Randomskk> hm. can't remember. google can probably tell you (or someone on here)
[19:01] <Dutch-Mill> ok thanks try that
[19:01] <x-f> haven't tried, but this might do - http://arduino.cc/playground/Code/AvailableMemory
[19:02] <x-f> do you have lots of Serial.print for debugging?
[19:03] <Dutch-Mill> thankz x-f try that too...no not much debugging prints ...
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[20:28] <Lunar_Lander_> hello again
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander_> YAY Apex III recovered
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander_> that is awesome
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander_> where is priyesh ?
[20:32] <priyesh> Lunar_Lander_: pong
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander_> hello
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander_> I saw the E-Mail summary and I am glad it was found
[20:33] <priyesh> thanks :)
[20:33] <priyesh> we're very excited
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander_> did he already ship it back to you?
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander_> yeah
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander_> you're very welcome :)
[20:33] <priyesh> not yet, should get sorted next week
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander_> did he say how it looks like now?
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander_> i.e. did the sea did a lot of damage
[20:34] <jonsowman> http://gallery.apexhab.org/index.php/Apex-III/Launch-1/Recovery-from-the-North-Sea
[20:35] <Lunar_Lander_> cool, thanks
[20:35] <Lunar_Lander_> loading
[20:35] <Lunar_Lander_> :)
[20:35] <Lunar_Lander_> while it is doing that, any plans for Apex III-F3?
[20:36] <priyesh> probably in the summer after our exams
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[20:36] <priyesh> it'll have all teh sensors on it including radiation and balloon pressure
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander_> ah
[20:36] <priyesh> we've also got a balloon neck flight planned
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander_> I just were to ask about the radiation sensor
[20:37] <Lunar_Lander_> did you get it working already?
[20:37] <priyesh> and also a launch with Nokia
[20:37] <priyesh> Lunar_Lander_: i'm not sure, but i don't think it's 100% up and running... i'd have to ask the person doing it
[20:37] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[20:37] <Lunar_Lander_> ah, what does Nokia do?
[20:38] <Lunar_Lander_> just sponsoring?
[20:38] <priyesh> they've given us a phone (similar to CUSF's Squirrel project) and they want to do a launch with us
[20:38] <Lunar_Lander_> ah
[20:38] <Lunar_Lander_> and the neck payload, how are you going to construct it?
[20:39] <Lunar_Lander_> here in germany they had a radio link between main payload and neck
[20:39] <Lunar_Lander_> but I doubt that is OK in England
[20:39] <priyesh> there wouldn't be a main payload
[20:39] <priyesh> just the pcb in the neck
[20:39] <Lunar_Lander_> ah I see
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander_> but when you fly the balloon pressure module along with the others?
[20:40] <priyesh> the balloon pressure is part of apex iii
[20:40] <priyesh> the balloon neck payload is apex alpha ii
[20:41] <Randomskk> you need better names
[20:41] <Lunar_Lander_> ah
[20:41] <priyesh> Randomskk: you've taken the animals and google have taken tasty food
[20:41] <fsphil> apex explodatron
[20:41] <priyesh> that's all that's worth having :P
[20:41] <Lunar_Lander_> tasty food?
[20:42] <Randomskk> be more creative:|
[20:42] <priyesh> Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean, etc
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[20:42] <Lunar_Lander_> why are these trademarks of Google?
[20:42] <Randomskk> they're all android releases
[20:42] <Lunar_Lander_> ah
[20:42] <Randomskk> plenty of other naming schemes though priyesh
[20:43] <priyesh> Randomskk: we'll start naming them after hybrid animals
[20:43] <Randomskk> don't you dare, that's our scheme for our hybrid projects :P
[20:43] <priyesh> noo
[20:43] <priyesh> i said it first :P
[20:44] <priyesh> Wallaroo
[20:44] <Lunar_Lander_> XD!
[20:44] <priyesh> have you seen a wallaroo?
[20:44] <Lunar_Lander_> Wasn't there a Microsoft game about crossing animals to combat?
[20:44] <Lunar_Lander_> like tigers with lobster claws
[20:44] <Lunar_Lander_> Impossible Creatures it was called
[20:44] <priyesh> Randomskk: you absolutely have to make Wallaroo
[20:44] <priyesh> Randomskk: also, blame jonsowman for the names, he started it with apex I
[20:45] <priyesh> and then apex II
[20:45] <priyesh> ¬.¬
[20:45] <jonsowman> benoxley gets credit for "apex"
[20:45] <Randomskk> I do
[20:45] <Randomskk> you're totally in a position to fix it though
[20:45] <priyesh> nahh
[20:45] <priyesh> we're nearly at the position where we can use V
[20:45] <Randomskk> use related words to apex
[20:45] <priyesh> IV
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[20:45] <Randomskk> maybe geometry terms for lols
[20:45] <priyesh> Randomskk: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Macropus_robustus.jpg
[20:45] <Randomskk> aw
[20:45] <priyesh> wallaroo
[20:46] <jonsowman> we don't have a wallaby yet
[20:46] <priyesh> then you'll have to make a wallaby, kangaroo and wallaroo
[20:47] <Lunar_Lander_> did anyone ever play "Impossible Creatures" and if yes, is it good?
[20:48] <priyesh> Randomskk: we have a new hybrid: Zebroid -> http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles/a411_zebroid.jpg
[20:49] <Randomskk> oh god what
[20:49] <Randomskk> is that real
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[20:49] <Randomskk> that's horrific
[20:49] <priyesh> apparently so
[20:49] <Randomskk> and a really really weird demonstration of cell differentiation and patterning
[20:49] <Randomskk> I don't think that should be alive
[20:49] <Randomskk> let alone adult
[20:49] <jonsowman> it looks like someone was painting it and got bored half way through
[20:49] <priyesh> its real
[20:49] <Randomskk> for sure? link?
[20:49] <priyesh> Zebroids have been bred since the 19th century.The zebroid showed in the picture above, Eclyse, is a very unusual one, because of her coloring. With her über distinct makings, it's really hard not think she's a Photoshop mock-up.
[20:49] <priyesh> http://www.oddee.com/item_96640.aspx
[20:49] <Randomskk> :|
[20:50] <Randomskk> weeeird.
[20:50] <Randomskk> biology is crazy
[20:51] <priyesh> Randomskk: just fyi, zebroids typically look like this: http://static.environmentalgraffiti.com/sites/default/files/images/Zeedonkjpg.img_assist_custom-600x442.jpg
[20:52] <jonsowman> aw it's cute
[20:53] <priyesh> wolphin
[20:53] <priyesh> lol
[20:54] <jonsowman> !
[20:54] <priyesh> http://static.environmentalgraffiti.com/sites/default/files/images/wolphinjpg.img_assist_custom-600x480.jpg
[20:54] <jonsowman> hehe
[20:55] <priyesh> ok - i must stop now
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[20:57] <Lunar_Lander_> what do you think on the Hanwei MQ series gas sensors now that you have flown them?
[20:58] <priyesh> not really that amazing
[20:59] <priyesh> the technology they depend on isn't suited for high alt scenarios
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[21:02] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[21:02] <Lunar_Lander_> why exactly?
[21:02] <Lunar_Lander_> hello RocketBoy
[21:03] <RocketBoy> :-)
[21:05] <Lunar_Lander_> how is the life?
[21:06] <RocketBoy> http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/radiocommunication-licences/amateur-radio/ar_spectrum_use/
[21:06] <RocketBoy> its a good job the LE is not affected
[21:07] <Lunar_Lander_> what does le mean?
[21:09] <RocketBoy> Licence Exempt
[21:09] <RocketBoy> what we use over ere for HAB
[21:10] <Lunar_Lander_> ah, sorry, yea
[21:10] <Lunar_Lander_> that definately is good
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[21:23] <griffonbot> Received email: Dan Bowen "[UKHAS] Reminder: mission control sim Saturday"
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[22:17] <griffonbot> Received email: Dave Hibberd "Re: [UKHAS] Reminder: mission control sim Saturday"
[22:36] <griffonbot> @vk5gr: #SkippingGirlVinegar "Chase The Sun" Music Vid on ABC1-TV Rage @ ~9:00AM http://t.co/8ntRmZeP flew on #ProjectHorus http://t.co/ihms893B [http://twitter.com/vk5gr/status/193468170672144385]
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[23:06] <griffonbot> @sgvband: RT @vk5gr: #SkippingGirlVinegar "Chase The Sun" Music Vid on ABC1-TV Rage @ ~9:00AM http://t.co/8ntRmZeP flew on #ProjectHorus http://t. ... [http://twitter.com/sgvband/status/193475698361507840]
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[23:07] <Bob_G8NSV> hi all
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[23:18] <Bob_G8NSV> hi gonzo
[23:18] <gonzo__> evenin bob
[23:18] <Bob_G8NSV> still busy?
[23:18] <gonzo__> nice timing, just sat back at the pc
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[23:18] <gonzo__> back in from a beer
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[23:19] <Bob_G8NSV> me too just been down the legion for a couple
[23:19] <Bob_G8NSV> left the payload on test see yours doing well
[23:19] <gonzo__> only one for me, have to drive. But opened a bottle now I'm back
[23:19] <gonzo__> yep I recon the code is stable enough to fly
[23:20] <Bob_G8NSV> might have a jd with the mrs before she turns in, might stay up a bit longer
[23:20] <gonzo__> not able to test that the ublox gps has gone into flight mode, but it does respond with an ACK when it's connabded so that is a good sign
[23:20] <gonzo__> commanded
[23:21] <Bob_G8NSV> there is some code for testing that in some examples I have
[23:21] <gonzo__> I'm really supprised how well these little boards of upu's work
[23:21] <Bob_G8NSV> a lot of people use his kit, very good and reliable
[23:22] <gonzo__> can hold lock, even when well indoors. Though a bit jittery, resulting in a lot of scribble on the plot. But to get anything, on such a small ant is astounding
[23:23] <gonzo__> till now I've been using old jupiter12 units. These are such a leap
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[23:23] <Bob_G8NSV> navrac kindly sent me this, its for arduino but the ublox comands may help? http://pastebin.com/Tmvxv6Z5
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[23:24] <Bob_G8NSV> yes they eprform very well, you want that if a payload is on the ground and you are trying to find it
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[23:25] <gonzo__> ta, I have the nav5 command. I'm not doing any low power stuff yet
[23:25] <gonzo__> that will be the next rev
[23:26] <Bob_G8NSV> I really dont expect to get mine back as it will most likely be in the sea or on another continent, and wont go above its height limit. hence the cheap gps module
[23:26] <gonzo__> mine is the gps and ntx2, apart from that the expensive bit is my time to build it
[23:27] <Bob_G8NSV> I dare not count the time!!
[23:27] <gonzo__> I will engulf mine in conformal coating to try and save it if it should be recovered/returned
[23:27] <Bob_G8NSV> it keeps me from doing other things that cost money tho!!!
[23:27] <gonzo__> heheh yes that is true
[23:28] <Bob_G8NSV> most of the recent pico launches have been recovered
[23:28] <gonzo__> there is quite a network of trackers these days. So the chances of it landing near someone is inproved
[23:29] <gonzo__> I went out with PJM and recovered picochu. Was quite good fun
[23:29] <Bob_G8NSV> floaters are always a bigger risk and solars are by definition very goos at that, its all they do really
[23:29] <gonzo__> and a very easy recovery, if you discount our combined failure to map read
[23:30] <gonzo__> btw, do you use air or is there some He fill to a solar?
[23:30] <Bob_G8NSV> a lot of the recent launches have been tracked to a very low altitude
[23:30] <Bob_G8NSV> no just air
[23:30] <gonzo__> must admit, I'm a radio man, the balloon side is still a weak point
[23:31] <gonzo__> would He help?
[23:31] <Bob_G8NSV> Im primarily electronics just learning the balloon stuff
[23:31] <gonzo__> so a sort of zero pressure/solar hybrid?
[23:31] <Bob_G8NSV> yes there have been some experimental stuff with he envelopes inside solar or maybe vice versa?
[23:32] <Bob_G8NSV> they sink at night thengo back up as the sun rises
[23:32] <Bob_G8NSV> but floaters tend to do that anyway so i have read
[23:33] <gonzo__> my background is hw design, but officially software eng these days. Though most of my debugging requires schematics and a 'scope
[23:33] <Bob_G8NSV> there were some pure solar balloons launched above the arctic circle in summer stayed up for days
[23:33] <Bob_G8NSV> I suppose if a launch was carried that far north under the right winds it could do that
[23:34] <gonzo__> we don't have many stations up there! (Though I'm game!)
[23:34] <Bob_G8NSV> my work is airfield nav aids and radar
[23:34] <gonzo__> thik you mentioned, at hurn
[23:34] <Bob_G8NSV> these were some special experimental stuff
[23:35] <Bob_G8NSV> yes for my sins, still its just down the rd from home!
[23:35] <gonzo__> that has it's advantages
[23:35] <Bob_G8NSV> yeah cheap travel in the smart car!
[23:35] <Bob_G8NSV> just going to pop for a quick drink with the mrs then back
[23:36] <gonzo__> rgr, prob catch you tomorrow
[23:36] <gonzo__> gn
[23:36] <Bob_G8NSV> you qrv on hf or 2m?
[23:36] <Bob_G8NSV> will be on tom fr launch
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[23:36] <gonzo__> have most bands
[23:37] <gonzo__> 160-70
[23:37] <Bob_G8NSV> will have to hook up for a chat
[23:37] <Bob_G8NSV> hf easiest for me tho can do 2m
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[23:37] <gonzo__> rgr, should be about in the afternoon.
[23:38] <Bob_G8NSV> will see you then 73's
[23:38] <gonzo__> Someone menined that tomorrow's launch may be postponed?
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[23:38] <gonzo__> yep rgr
[23:39] <Bob_G8NSV> oh dear missed that nothing to track bu**er!!
[23:39] <fsphil> missed that too
[23:40] <gonzo__> was a passing comment on here
[23:41] <gonzo__> not seen it confirmed
[23:41] <Bob_G8NSV> hope all goes to plan still more time for development work!!
[23:41] <NigeyS> ach dam, i only have 1 balloon or id send a pico up tomorrow :/
[23:41] <Bob_G8NSV> hi nigey
[23:41] <gonzo__> Would that be picochu's second flight?
[23:42] <NigeyS> hey bob
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[23:42] <NigeyS> yup gonzo
[23:42] <NigeyS> picochu-5 is ready to go
[23:42] <gonzo__> assume it got to you ok
[23:42] <NigeyS> it did, and was amazed it all worked fine, thanks for returning it!
[23:42] <Bob_G8NSV> just off for a few mins back soon
[23:42] <Lunar_Lander_> hello NigeyS
[23:42] <gonzo__> np, what goes around.,.... well... gets recovered and posted back
[23:42] <NigeyS> hey kev
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[23:42] <gonzo__> send it back this way again
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[23:43] <NigeyS> its got a similar track tomorrow actually
[23:43] <gonzo__> we'll try and send one your way soon then!
[23:43] <NigeyS> yey
[23:44] <gonzo__> right, muct get some kip
[23:44] <gonzo__> laters all
[23:44] <NigeyS> let me update the prediction, if i can find a balloon stockist locally, a 2pm launch might be on the cards if its not belting down with rain!
[23:44] <NigeyS> nn dude
[23:44] <fsphil> thunderbolts and foil balloons. yea
[23:45] <NigeyS> lol
[23:45] <NigeyS> bright lights!
[23:45] <fsphil> there was a lovely rumble of thunder here earlier, made the roof of the office shake
[23:45] <NigeyS> ooo no fair, we dont get enough of it here :(
[23:45] <fsphil> nor here. I only remember one other time it was that loud
[23:46] <fsphil> and that was pretty much it, just hail stones
[23:46] <NigeyS> bah :(
[23:46] <fsphil> there was some smoke rising of the mountain in the direction of the flash so I think it way have struck a tree
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[23:49] <NigeyS> oh dear poor tree!
[23:49] <NigeyS> hm weather tomorrow doesnt look to bad before 12
[23:49] <fsphil> yea, poor payload catcher. muhahaha
[23:49] <NigeyS> wonder if clintons sell 36" balloons
[23:49] <fsphil> they might actually
[23:50] <NigeyS> surei can get lithiums from maplins too
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