highaltitude.log.20120414

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[02:20] <schofieldau> http://projectfilmbox.com/ this is pretty cool
[02:20] <schofieldau> although I think they'd be pretty mad if the camera ditched somewhere off the coast of australia
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[02:33] <Darkside> we're never going to hear the end of that are we..
[02:39] <schofieldau> hm?
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[02:39] <schofieldau> ah right
[02:39] <schofieldau> wasn't specifically mentioning that :P
[02:42] <schofieldau> besides, one lost GoPro in 22 launches is pretty good :)
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[02:47] <Darkside> eh?
[02:47] <Darkside> we didn't lose a gopro
[02:48] <Darkside> oh wait
[02:48] <Darkside> we lost a gopro on horus 8
[02:48] <Darkside> well, we got it back, but it died
[02:48] <Darkside> passed
[02:48] <Darkside> on
[02:48] <Darkside> met it's maker (not really)
[02:48] <Darkside> it is an ex-gopro
[02:48] <schofieldau> haha
[02:49] <schofieldau> pining for the fjords
[02:49] <Darkside> yup
[02:49] <Darkside> omg The Tuss is AWESOMe
[02:51] <schofieldau> band?
[02:52] <Darkside> yes :P
[02:52] <Darkside> its one of Aphex Twin's pseydonyms
[02:52] <Darkside> pseudonyms*
[02:52] <schofieldau> ah
[02:52] <Darkside> most definitely not everyone's cup of meat
[02:54] <schofieldau> do you like m83?
[02:54] <Darkside> never heard of them
[02:54] <schofieldau> radiohead?
[02:54] <Darkside> nope
[02:55] <Darkside> not really a rock fain in general
[02:55] <Darkside> fan*
[02:55] <schofieldau> what about folk stuff
[02:55] <schofieldau> bon iver?
[02:55] <Darkside> not really, no
[02:55] <Darkside> i don't mind a bit of sufjan
[02:56] <schofieldau> heh same
[02:56] <Darkside> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bf2sdraGAQ
[03:06] <schofieldau> that's alright
[03:10] <schofieldau> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WedRDYmtvX4
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[06:45] <griffonbot> @DutchMillbt: High altitude balloon flights #ukhas XABEN21 and MONDO 14/04/12 10.00 UTC #hamradio 434.650Mhz 434.525Mhz RTTY SSB see:... [http://twitter.com/DutchMillbt/status/191054503267680256]
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[07:16] <Upu> good morning
[07:16] <SpeedEvil> Monint
[07:16] <SpeedEvil> Morenign
[07:16] <Upu> keep trying
[07:16] <SpeedEvil> something like that.
[07:16] <number10> morning
[07:16] <x-f> morning
[07:17] <Upu> Dave on the move
[07:18] <number10> where is he going?
[07:18] <Upu> Cambridge
[07:18] <Upu> he's got the gas regulator
[07:18] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=4def68505d05aed33f7108836ad8ddd03fc36a4e
[07:19] <number10> doesnt steve also have one
[07:19] <Upu> not this one
[07:20] <Upu> bigger one higher flow rate
[07:20] <Upu> and you can turn it off and on with a knob
[07:20] <Upu> as opposed to holding it down
[07:20] <Upu> ping Darkside
[07:20] <number10> a right
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[07:21] <Colin-G8TMV> cool prediction, I'm in Cambridge and headed for Peterbo' later this afternoon
[07:21] <Colin-G8TMV> wonder if I can hitch a lift
[07:21] <Colin-G8TMV> ;)
[07:21] <Colin-G8TMV> Is it still 11ish for the launch?
[07:21] <Upu> well there are enough balloons going up , they could probably lift you
[07:21] <Upu> I guess so no updates yet
[07:22] <Colin-G8TMV> right
[07:22] <Colin-G8TMV> ta
[07:22] <Upu> Dave looks like he's a hour away ish
[07:23] <Upu> 1 hour 30 mins actually
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[07:31] <Upu> do we have a Horus launch too or is that testing ?
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[07:34] <SamSilver> Horus tomorrow iirc
[07:34] <Darkside> yep
[07:34] <Darkside> thats testing
[07:35] <Darkside> just getting the chase car setup
[07:35] <Darkside> brb
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[07:40] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: RT @DutchMillbt: High altitude balloon flights #ukhas XABEN21 and MONDO 14/04/12 10.00 UTC #hamradio 434.650Mhz 434.525Mhz RTTY SSB se ... [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/191068313957302272]
[07:40] <griffonbot> @PD3EM: at 10:00 UTC today, the MUNDO and XABEN-21 High Altitude Balloons will be launched from Cambridge http://t.co/f9vvaXdo #UKHAS #HAB [http://twitter.com/PD3EM/status/191068400427073536]
[07:43] <Upu> let me know if I can clear it down before the launches today Darkside as its going to be very busy on the tracker
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[07:50] <SamSilver> looks like daveake has disabled the speed function on his chase car hmmm
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[07:52] <Darkside> http://i.imgur.com/ssSva.jpg
[07:52] <Darkside> http://i.imgur.com/OtNEZ.jpg
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[07:55] <number10> wow, Darkside I can see why you need another chase car
[07:56] <Darkside> eh?
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[07:56] <Darkside> http://i.imgur.com/yHGV8.jpg
[07:56] <number10> all that kit in the car - no room for passengers
[07:56] <Darkside> lol
[07:57] <Darkside> you can fit 4 people in there
[07:57] <Darkside> no probs at all
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[07:57] <Darkside> actually has a decent amount of legroom too
[07:57] <Darkside> its not as bad as some of th eother chase cars
[07:58] <number10> whats in the tupperware box on the back seat
[07:58] <Colin-G8TMV> sandwiches?
[07:59] <number10> coax sandwidch
[07:59] <Darkside> lol
[07:59] <Darkside> thats one of the uplink test boards
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[08:12] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: http://t.co/hn716pPb Chase truck all ready to go! #projecthorus #arhab [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/191076534122053632]
[08:14] <cuddykid> GL to all launches today!
[08:16] <fsphil-laptop> don't drive under any low bridges
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[08:18] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: i just put the HF antenna on
[08:18] <Darkside> thats way worse
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[08:19] <cef> Darkside: you about to launch, or have you done it all already?
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[08:19] <Darkside> cef: tomorrow morning
[08:19] <schofieldau> Darkside: those tupperware boxes fit breadboards /perfectly/
[08:19] <Darkside> about 0100UTC
[08:19] <cef> Darkside: ahh good stuff.. as I said on twitter, Good luck guys!
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[08:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> morning
[08:20] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: http://i.imgur.com/dxXzc.jpg
[08:20] <Darkside> theres the HF whip
[08:21] <fsphil-laptop> hey that's quite similar to my own. what band?
[08:21] <Darkside> all-band
[08:21] <Darkside> thats a codan 9350 tuner on the bottm of it i think
[08:21] <fsphil-laptop> wlthough I don't have the springy bit in the middle
[08:22] <Darkside> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CF4QFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.codan.com.au%2FPortals%2F0%2Fpublications%2Fhfradio%2F9350M_data.pdf&ei=pDOJT4qNLoXsmAXljLHfCQ&usg=AFQjCNGIMf5O4PVz1gEwpClAyxgMBampqg
[08:22] <Darkside> ff google
[08:22] <Darkside> http://www.codan.com.au/Portals/0/publications/hfradio/9350M_data.pdf
[08:22] <Darkside> thats the tuner on it
[08:23] <Darkside> we we have 100W of HF capability, and 50W of 2m/70cm, which uses the big omni on the centre of the roof
[08:23] <fsphil-laptop> that's a great idea
[08:24] <fsphil-laptop> having the tuner in the base
[08:24] <Darkside> yep
[08:24] <Darkside> its how all the mobile HF rigs work
[08:25] <Darkside> back later, heading home
[08:25] <fsphil-laptop> and it has a build in preamp
[08:26] <Upu> best chase car ever :)
[08:26] <Upu> Darkside I'm clearing the tracker
[08:27] <fsphil-laptop> I'm not sure my clio could hold an HF antenna tbh :)
[08:27] <Upu> might tip up :)
[08:28] <Upu> Daves almost at Elsworth
[08:28] <Upu> he doesn't keep to the speed limits :) (hi Dave looking back through Zeus logs)
[08:28] <fsphil-laptop> hi dave from the future
[08:28] <Upu> lol
[08:29] <fsphil-laptop> also, hello me from the future if I happen to look back on the logs
[08:29] <fsphil-laptop> how was australia? you didn't accidentally die did you ?
[08:29] <Upu> when are you going ?
[08:29] <fsphil-laptop> november for a week
[08:30] <Upu> ok
[08:30] <fsphil-laptop> going for the total solar eclipse
[08:30] <number10> daveake while you were up this way you could have brought
[08:31] <number10> are you going to take you full exam before fsphil-laptop
[08:31] <fsphil-laptop> number10, hoping to
[08:31] <number10> great
[08:32] <fsphil-laptop> be nice to do some radio stuffs down there
[08:32] <number10> yes, must be great fun doing the chases down there -. did you see Darksides picture of the chase car
[08:33] <fsphil-laptop> did!
[08:33] <fsphil-laptop> it's more radio than car
[08:33] <Upu> someone call Dave and tell him he overshot
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[08:34] <Upu> he's turned around
[08:34] <fsphil-laptop> we should add a messaging service to the ukhas chase app :)
[08:34] <fsphil-laptop> click on the car on the website to send a message
[08:35] <Upu> :)
[08:35] <fsphil-laptop> so mondo is up first
[08:35] <number10> that would be cool - daveake would get lots of texts from LL - he would love it
[08:36] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[08:36] <number10> who flie mondo baloons?
[08:36] <Upu> HELLO HOW ARE YOU ?
[08:36] <number10> flies
[08:36] <Upu> Micheal
[08:36] <number10> whats his nick on here?
[08:36] <fsphil-laptop> four radios on this flight
[08:36] <Upu> he doens't come on here much
[08:36] <Upu> http://www.bellomondo.co.uk/
[08:37] <number10> I wondered why I didnt know who it was
[08:37] <Upu> probably some of the best HAB photos I've seen
[08:37] <Upu> looks like Dave found it
[08:37] <Upu> payload builds are amazing
[08:37] <Upu> really well built
[08:38] <Colin-G8TMV> right - I'm all set up for tracking
[08:39] <fsphil-laptop> breakfast time!
[08:39] <fsphil-laptop> yay toast
[08:39] <Upu> copy cat
[08:39] Action: Colin-G8TMV already had bacon, egg and mushrooms
[08:47] Action: schofieldau has a good ol' fashioned LAN tonight
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[08:55] <jcoxon> is daveake going chasing?
[08:55] <Upu> yup
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[09:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> did i read this right, 3 launches around noon today?
[09:06] <Upu> correct
[09:07] <Upu> in theory should be reasonably high
[09:07] <Upu> Michael doesn't do low alitude :)
[09:07] <danielsaul> No :( - apex tracking remote desktop thingy is broken :(
[09:07] <Upu> can you go in and fix it ?
[09:08] <Upu> windows machine ?
[09:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu RR sounds good
[09:08] <Upu> RR ?
[09:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> roger roger, digimode sicknes :-)
[09:09] <Upu> lol
[09:09] <danielsaul> Ah actually, looks like the school internet might be down
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[09:17] <PD3EM> morning all!
[09:17] <Upu> Morning
[09:17] <fsphil-laptop> morning
[09:17] <PD3EM> everything going as planned so far today?
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[09:18] <fsphil-laptop> don't know the plan, but nothing's gone wrong yet :)
[09:19] <PD3EM> good
[09:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ON5RZ Hi, your lat/lon in fl-digi is abit off :-)
[09:19] <PD3EM> i think i need more rigs and antennas with the Mundo & Xaben payloads ;-)
[09:19] <ON5RZ> should be fun dough if it was right ;-) ching it ..
[09:19] <Upu> you and me
[09:20] <fsphil-laptop> we need an sdr that covers the entire 70cm ism band :)
[09:20] <PD3EM> would be nice fsphil-laptop
[09:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ON5RZ you´ll get your feet wet :-)
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[09:21] <PD3EM> and about more wishes.... selectable audio channel on dl-fldigi
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[09:23] <PD3EM> hallo ON5RZ! leuk dat je er ook bij bent / nice to see you here as well!
[09:24] <ON5RZ> las je tweet ...
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[09:25] <PD3EM> ok! hopelijk kunnen we ze hier horen / Hopefully we can hear the payloads here
[09:25] <jcoxon> we need to add the point system to habitat
[09:26] <PD3EM> jcoxon: hi! point system?
[09:27] <jcoxon> soon the server will add have a score board
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[09:27] <jcoxon> where you get points for each string
[09:27] <PD3EM> nice!
[09:27] <jcoxon> but the further you are away the more points you get for it
[09:27] <F5APQ> morning all
[09:27] <jcoxon> or something like that
[09:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon sounds like a fun idea.
[09:28] <Upu> morning F5APQ
[09:29] <PD3EM> morning!
[09:29] <number10> all those people who forget to put location will get lots of points
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[09:29] <jcoxon> well they won't count
[09:29] <number10> :)
[09:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> well thats easy, you just put a upper limit in the range, so trackers 10000km away is automatic deleted
[09:30] <Dutch-Mill-mob> num strings *distance ?
[09:30] <Colin-G8TMV> jcoxon: you will have to scale it somehow or people that live near the launch sites will be peanalised
[09:30] <jcoxon> Colin-G8TMV, i think also launch people won't count
[09:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Say 1000km
[09:31] <Colin-G8TMV> jcoxon: well that was a given, but for example I only live 5 miles from Cambridge
[09:31] <jcoxon> yeah
[09:31] <Colin-G8TMV> also - what about those of us that work full time and can't do weekday launches
[09:31] <jcoxon> well i think we'll have to do it on a launch by launch basis
[09:32] <Upu> theres no prizes :)
[09:32] <Colin-G8TMV> might work
[09:32] <jcoxon> and then perhaps have something at the end of the year
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[09:32] <Upu> I take it back
[09:32] <jcoxon> but its only for fun
[09:32] <Colin-G8TMV> Upu: not even free beer!
[09:32] <G4DPZ> morning all
[09:32] <jcoxon> but also its quite helpful - to see the ranges etc
[09:32] <griffonbot> @rafvz: RT @PD3EM: at 10:00 UTC today, the MUNDO and XABEN-21 High Altitude Balloons will be launched from Cambridge http://t.co/f9vvaXdo #UKHAS ... [http://twitter.com/rafvz/status/191096588406489088]
[09:32] <Upu> MONDO Elmar :)
[09:32] <Colin-G8TMV> Hmm... /me wonders what the current offset from UTC to HAB time is
[09:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> how are the wind directions for england today?
[09:33] <Upu> oddly they are going north
[09:33] <Dutch-Mill-mob> Kinda golden string context and win a real one :-)
[09:33] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=4def68505d05aed33f7108836ad8ddd03fc36a4e
[09:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu ahh me like :-)
[09:33] <PD3EM> sorry Upu
[09:33] <Dutch-Mill-mob> contest
[09:33] <jcoxon> Colin-G8TMV, oh yes - when its BST the ISH goes up loads
[09:33] <jcoxon> as people get confused when the gps reports UTC
[09:34] <jdtanner> Morning all&how are things going this morning? Success?
[09:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah north west, well better than south west for me
[09:34] <Upu> not launched yet
[09:34] <Upu> morning
[09:34] <Colin-G8TMV> 26 mins and counting
[09:34] <PD3EM> Nice frontcover article on the new QST: http://imgur.com/gpGav
[09:34] <jdtanner> ooh good&much better than the Grand National
[09:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah 26min ísh
[09:34] <Colin-G8TMV> is anyone in here and also at the launch site?
[09:34] <Upu> interesting
[09:34] <Upu> not yet Colin no
[09:35] <jcoxon> PD3EM, i've been playing with that
[09:35] <jcoxon> it runs quite slow on my android devices
[09:35] <jcoxon> and has a fixed shift
[09:35] <PD3EM> yep, will scan whole article later for who's interested
[09:35] <jdtanner> Might make a brew and some toast and get comfortable :)
[09:35] <jdtanner> I would offer one&but
[09:35] <fsphil-laptop> yes, toast is good
[09:35] <Colin-G8TMV> Or - if anyone is in contact with the launch crew and can get them to use either PI or PY I can monitor
[09:36] <Upu> PI ?
[09:36] <fsphil-laptop> repeater
[09:36] <jdtanner> (I'm glad you asked)
[09:36] <Upu> oh
[09:36] <Colin-G8TMV> GB3PI the local(ish) 2m repeater
[09:36] <Colin-G8TMV> GB3PY is the even more local 70cms one
[09:37] <Colin-G8TMV> also of use today GB3PE the newly re-established Peterbro' repeater (2m)
[09:37] <jcoxon> one day we'll do a coordinated launch
[09:37] <fsphil-laptop> there's a 70cm repeater a few miles from our launch site, but I suspect we're the only ones who can hear it so ....
[09:37] <jcoxon> with radios and using the repeater etc
[09:38] <fsphil-laptop> shame there isn't a ventrilo client for android, we could use that to communicate
[09:38] <Colin-G8TMV> seems to me that it's much easier for the launch crew to keep the trackers informed with a hand-held than by having to type on a laptop on a flaky 3G connection
[09:39] <jcoxon> Colin-G8TMV, you sort of need a spare person to do that
[09:39] <jdtanner> :)
[09:39] <fsphil-laptop> yea, it's very difficult getting the balloon and payload ready and also being online
[09:39] <PD3EM> gonna sounds like mission control ;-)
[09:39] <Colin-G8TMV> jcoxon: naw, get a handie with a speaker-mic clipped to your collar
[09:39] <Darkside> it helps when theres heaps of people at the launc hsite
[09:40] <Darkside> we'll have... 8 people there tomorrow
[09:40] <Darkside> wait. more
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[09:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Or use "heytell" app
[09:40] <jdtanner> If we can get a decent 3g up at our site, I'm hoping to be able to broadcast video over the web&if the wife is happy being camerawoman that is!
[09:40] <Colin-G8TMV> OZ1SKY_Brian: this is a *radio* hobby not an Internet one - lets use the facilities of our hobby
[09:40] <jdtanner> Darkside: cool!
[09:41] <Upu> jdtanner I come with streaming video :)
[09:41] <jcoxon> Colin-G8TMV, well interestly its probably more an internet hobby :-)
[09:41] <Upu> as long as you have some 3G signal round there
[09:41] <jcoxon> but i get your point
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[09:41] <jdtanner> (for some of us it is both radio and internet&more internet actually)
[09:41] <jdtanner> :)
[09:41] <Upu> I like it as it means people can see what what is going on
[09:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Colin-G8TMV sure but heytell will work allmost everywhere, not limited to a repeater or nearby stations.
[09:41] <Upu> and why there is nothing on the map yet
[09:41] <jdtanner> Exactly
[09:41] <jdtanner> :)
[09:42] <PD3EM> or use ATV without 3G
[09:42] <Upu> at the end of the day you're reliant on all the nice people here to help but it is quite hard to do all that AND get your payload ready
[09:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PD3EM ATV is not widely spred, here in OZ there are none.
[09:42] <jdtanner> (ATV?)
[09:42] <PD3EM> Amateur TV
[09:42] <jdtanner> oooh...nice
[09:43] <PD3EM> very depending on region indeed OZ1SKY_Brian
[09:43] <Dutch-Mill-mob> Teamspeak...
[09:43] <Colin-G8TMV> Upu: true, that was one of the better things about the Southampton crowd, they seemed to have someone whose job it was to be in here and pass messages
[09:43] <PD3EM> Dutch-Mill-mob: also possible, but there seems to be places without 3G
[09:43] <Upu> We have contact with the launch site but no point bothering them
[09:44] <Upu> they'll be up when there are up
[09:44] <jdtanner> Upu: what mobile network are you on?
[09:44] <Upu> My data care is Three
[09:44] <Upu> card
[09:44] <jdtanner> on a dongle?
[09:44] <Upu> my mobile is O2
[09:44] <Upu> well its built into the netbook
[09:44] <jdtanner> cool
[09:44] <Upu> Didn't disconnect once last time I could have streamed from the car
[09:45] <Colin-G8TMV> Upu: do you know if they are vaguely on time? ie ought I to be able to hear anything? If the payload is running I might hear it from here
[09:45] <Upu> they were on site at the expected time
[09:45] <Upu> try tune in
[09:46] <jdtanner> Fingers crossed the lack of cell towers up here doesn;t cause a problem :)
[09:46] <Upu> see if you can hear anything
[09:46] <Upu> as long as they have signal should be something on the map soon
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[09:50] <ON5RZ> there it is ..
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[09:52] <Colin-G8TMV> Hmm.. they are not at Churchill, bit too far for me to get them on the ground
[09:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> battery 80%, hmm
[09:54] <jcoxon> discharge characteristics of lithiums isn't linear
[09:54] <jcoxon> so it might be that
[09:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> right
[09:55] <fsphil-laptop> I was wondering that
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[09:55] <daveake> morning all. Mondo (1 of them) is up now
[09:56] <Upu> in the air ?
[09:56] <daveake> yep
[09:56] <Upu> cheers
[09:56] <daveake> xaben coming soon
[09:57] <daveake> I'm uploading XABEN1 sentences but not on the map yet
[09:57] <number10> what frequency is up?
[09:57] <Upu> MONDO-1 on frequency ?
[09:57] <daveake> I'll go ask - Michael is in the next field
[09:57] <fsphil-laptop> No configuration document for callsign 'XABEN1' found.
[09:57] <daveake> Could you sort that pretty please?
[09:57] <fsphil-laptop> sec
[09:58] <daveake> ta
[09:58] <Upu> its XABEN isn't it ?
[09:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 434.225 ( testing out small helical antenna - should radiat about 10mw ) - select MONDO-1
[09:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 434.375 ( testing out transmitter -10mw ) maybe rubbish but works amazingly on the ground - select MONDO-2
[09:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 434.525 limited to 10mw - select MONDO
[09:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> note:- MONDO-1 and MONDO-2 transmitters are in same capsule ( payload )
[09:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> rtty :- shift :- 425 ( may shift slightly ) - baud 50 - 8 bit - no parity - 1.5 stop
[09:58] <number10> wasnt it xaben rather than xaben1
[09:58] <daveake> XABEN1
[09:58] <Upu> ta fixing spacenear.us
[09:59] <daveake> It has a crc16 checksum, which may not have been the case before
[09:59] <daveake> should be filled soon
[10:00] <fsphil-laptop> xaben1 config is for crc16 so that's fine
[10:00] <futurity> Morning
[10:00] <daveake> excellent
[10:00] <Upu> daveake is MONDO-2 also in the air ?
[10:00] <jcoxon> anyone getting it?
[10:00] <futurity> i'm hearing 434.525 is this the one I should be tracking?
[10:00] <jcoxon> futurity, tracking anything really
[10:00] <daveake> No Michael launched one and is off to fill the second now
[10:00] <futurity> Cool,
[10:00] <jcoxon> Upu, same payload
[10:01] <Upu> yeah just seen it pop on the map
[10:01] <Colin-G8TMV> right - I've got mondo-1
[10:01] <fsphil-laptop> daveake, you're on now
[10:01] <daveake> Cheers :)
[10:01] <Upu> dial ?
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[10:01] <jcoxon> shall i coordinate?
[10:02] <Upu> go for it
[10:02] <fsphil-laptop> right, I better go walk the mutt before these get to my horizon :)
[10:02] <Upu> Colin-G8TMV what dial do you have it at ?
[10:02] <Colin-G8TMV> 434.237.77
[10:02] <jcoxon> futurity, can you tune to track mono-2
[10:02] <jcoxon> mondo-2
[10:02] <jcoxon> on 434.375
[10:02] <jcoxon> Colin-G8TMV, stick to mondo-1
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[10:03] <Upu> eh ?
[10:03] <futurity> sure i'll tune to that now
[10:03] <Upu> oh yes I see it
[10:03] <jcoxon> when someone gets a signal can they say
[10:03] <Upu> very weak but can see Mondo1
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[10:04] <Upu> whats the dial on Mondo-2 ?
[10:04] <futurity> Mondo-2 very clear here, Mondo seems to have local interference here.
[10:04] <G4DPZ> just starting to pick up mondo-1
[10:04] <jcoxon> futurity, you uploading?
[10:04] <futurity> almost got program loaded
[10:04] <jcoxon> hehe
[10:04] <futurity> slow laptop ;)
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[10:05] <Upu> getting partials from both Mondo 1 & 2
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[10:06] Action: Colin-G8TMV has +12dB from mondo-1
[10:06] <jcoxon> wow
[10:06] <futurity> Uploading successfully for Mondo-2 now
[10:06] <Colin-G8TMV> well I'm using a big colinear at 40 feet
[10:07] <jcoxon> futurity, good work
[10:07] <futurity> 434.3795
[10:07] <Upu> Mondo2 434.378.23 here
[10:07] <jcoxon> once we are a bit higher then you guys could switch xaben when launched
[10:07] <futurity> to be honest i might have been able to decode when on the ground as so close to it ;)
[10:08] <jcoxon> and mondo can be continued by the long range stations
[10:08] Action: Colin-G8TMV nods
[10:08] <G4DPZ> partials from mono-1
[10:08] <Upu> Mondo1 434.237.71
[10:08] <jcoxon> though we also have another mondo to go into teh air
[10:08] <futurity> is xaben launching from EARS as well?
[10:08] <jcoxon> yes
[10:08] <Upu> yes
[10:08] <futurity> i can try and track before even launched if you like?
[10:09] <jcoxon> futurity, nah, daveake has it on the ground
[10:09] <futurity> ok cool
[10:09] <Upu> ok Mondo-2 decoding I'll stick on this until flight directory Coxon advises otherwise
[10:09] <Upu> Flight Director even
[10:09] <jcoxon> hehe
[10:09] Action: Colin-G8TMV just realises we had an on-time launch!!!
[10:09] <jcoxon> i like being bossy
[10:10] <Upu> say something epic like "we're not loosing a balloon on my watch"
[10:10] <jcoxon> G4DPZ, do you want to go for mondo-1
[10:10] <G4DPZ> ok
[10:10] <futurity> Upu: very good
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[10:11] <Upu> Xaben is up
[10:12] <daveake> xaben1 up now
[10:12] <jcoxon> futurity, do you want to switch to Xaben1
[10:12] <futurity> ok
[10:12] <daveake> just had to retune the rcvr as it'd drifted off a bit
[10:12] <jcoxon> everyone else keep on mondo's
[10:12] <daveake> ascent looked a bit on the slow side
[10:12] <Upu> XABen ?
[10:13] <Upu> picking up
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[10:13] <jcoxon> anyone else got a signal?
[10:13] <futurity> grr laptop hibernated when slightly closed lid
[10:13] <futurity> i've got it
[10:13] <futurity> unhibernating and i'll be uploading
[10:13] <Colin-G8TMV> Hmm... mondo-1 fading badly here
[10:13] <futurity> very wrong signal
[10:14] <Upu> MONDO-2 strong here
[10:14] <G4DPZ> first full frame mondo-1
[10:14] <jcoxon> excellent
[10:15] <Colin-G8TMV> I thought they were supposed to go North?
[10:15] <futurity> Xaben1 first line uploaded here
[10:15] <cuddykid> Colin-G8TMV: they'll swing around
[10:15] <cuddykid> predicted path is on tracker
[10:15] <Upu> yeah just updated it
[10:15] <cuddykid> I'll have a listen in here on the whip :)
[10:15] <Upu> not sure what expected burst is
[10:15] <Colin-G8TMV> right, I just zoomed my map out a bit
[10:15] <Upu> so its probably an under estimate
[10:16] <cuddykid> before I get my mag mount for the car later
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[10:16] <Upu> Think tracker is playing silly with the receivers again
[10:16] <Upu> I'm getting every packet from MONDO-2 but its not always showing my name
[10:16] <jcoxon> Upu, i changed the burst alt previously
[10:17] <Upu> ping jonsowman
[10:17] <Upu> I put it back to something more "latex" :)
[10:17] <futurity> hmm anyone able to confirm my lines are being uploaded correctly? There are all green here, but not appearing on tracker
[10:17] <futurity> there are now ;)
[10:17] <jcoxon> Colin-G8TMV, when Mondon-0 goes up do you want to track that
[10:17] <Upu> I think tracker is playing up a little
[10:17] <jcoxon> well its just Mondo
[10:18] <cuddykid> airwaves are busy today :P
[10:18] <Colin-G8TMV> jcoxon: can do if you have enough others on -1
[10:18] <jcoxon> Colin-G8TMV, yeah got 2 others currently
[10:19] <Colin-G8TMV> right let me know
[10:19] <cuddykid> can hear a whine on the whip no clear rtty yet though
[10:19] <navrac> morning - Good signal from xaben
[10:19] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo-1 now dial=434.238
[10:20] <navrac> any preferences which one i monitor - or are we well covred orn receivers
[10:20] <jcoxon> navrac, mondo-2 is a bit low on receviers
[10:20] <Upu> Flight Director Coxon will advise
[10:20] <jcoxon> want to switch to that
[10:20] <navrac> ok
[10:20] <navrac> what freq?
[10:20] <Upu> MONDO-2 434.378.23 shift 425
[10:20] <Colin-G8TMV> wow - it's signals just gone up in level a lot
[10:21] <cuddykid> what balloon type is XABEN?
[10:21] <Upu> 1600
[10:21] <jcoxon> 1600 howyee
[10:21] <cuddykid> floaty
[10:21] <cuddykid> :P
[10:21] <Upu> no ascent rate should increase
[10:21] <cuddykid> oh, how come?
[10:21] <Upu> H2
[10:21] <cuddykid> ahhh
[10:21] <cuddykid> nice
[10:21] <Upu> I think
[10:22] <navrac> mondo very strong here
[10:22] <daveake> Visually it was definitely slower than usual
[10:22] <Upu> yeah its a very strong signal
[10:22] <daveake> xaben that is
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[10:22] <PD1AKL> Hi
[10:22] <daveake> It'll speed up but it does look like float material
[10:22] <Upu> "testing transmitter" = success
[10:22] <Upu> hi there PD1AKL
[10:22] <Elmar_PD3EM> hi
[10:22] Nick change: Upu -> Upu_2E0UPU
[10:22] <cuddykid> daveake: are you chasing xaben?
[10:23] <PD1AKL> Whatd the freq today?
[10:23] <daveake> Yes, Steve is going to come in my car chasing
[10:23] <Elmar_PD3EM> a few PD1AKL
[10:23] Nick change: number10 -> number10_M0MDB
[10:23] <daveake> Good job I filled the tank up earlier :D
[10:23] <cuddykid> brill - tell Steve I got the balloon :D
[10:23] <cuddykid> haha yeah
[10:23] <Elmar_PD3EM> PD1AKL: see the tracker
[10:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> PD1AKL try 434.378 MONDO-2 but jcoxon is "directing" flights
[10:23] <cuddykid> big thanks to him
[10:24] <daveake> the second mondo will launch v soon
[10:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> which ever one you can hear really
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[10:25] <jcoxon> yeah try mondo-2
[10:25] <jcoxon> but if not any that you can hear
[10:25] <jcoxon> we've got all covered currently
[10:25] <GW8RAK> Is "Mondo-22 in fldigi correctly configured?
[10:26] <GW8RAK> Can see traces and here it, but no decode
[10:26] <GW8RAK> here = hear
[10:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> yes
[10:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> its a very strong signal too
[10:26] <navrac> i just selected mondo2 and it decoded straight away
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[10:27] <Elmar_PD3EM> GW8RAK: change USB/LSB or reversed
[10:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> one more monde going up?
[10:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> mindo
[10:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> yes
[10:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> nice
[10:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> and that should go quite high
[10:29] <cuddykid> I'm guessing that mondo 1 & 2 are on the same balloon?
[10:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO1/2 I think are under 500g ballons
[10:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> yes
[10:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yipee
[10:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> XABEN should go high in theory
[10:30] <cuddykid> yep
[10:30] <cuddykid> an interesting launch
[10:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> would be nice to hear something again
[10:31] <GW8RAK> Something not right here - again
[10:31] <Upu_2E0UPU> Expecting MONDO1&2 to get to about 25km
[10:31] <Upu_2E0UPU> jsut amended the prediction to that
[10:31] <Upu_2E0UPU> so don't panic
[10:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu_2E0UPU ok we´ll see
[10:32] <Darkside> i have my towel handy
[10:32] <kokey> wow, early launches
[10:32] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo-1 shirt getting bigger - now up to about 430
[10:32] <daveake> All 3 balloons 1600 hwoyees
[10:32] <kokey> I guess not a bad time if you don't want to chase too far
[10:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh
[10:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok
[10:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> whats the battery pyro and custom on xaben?
[10:33] <daveake> no pyro
[10:33] <daveake> The other stuff is landing predictions and things
[10:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok tnx
[10:33] <daveake> Not sure Steve is off retrieving his toolbox :)
[10:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> are they all H2 daveake ?
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[10:34] <daveake> Only xaben
[10:34] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok
[10:35] <Colin-G8TMV> wishlist for dl-fldigi - can it leave the Rx filter bandwidth alone when you alter the custom shift value please
[10:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> dont think ive ever seen any flights going to the north west before
[10:35] <G4DPZ> mondo-1 now 434.230
[10:36] <Colin-G8TMV> err.. you sure?
[10:36] <Colin-G8TMV> I have 434.238.5
[10:36] <G4DPZ> 238
[10:36] <G4DPZ> sorry bas eyesight :-)
[10:39] <jcoxon> mondo in the air
[10:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> number10_M0MDB got MONDO in the air
[10:39] <SpeedEvil> Woo!
[10:39] <jcoxon> stick to the current plan i think
[10:39] <Colin-G8TMV> Hmm.. i'm losing mondo-1 because it's getting above the recption cone for my colinear
[10:39] <number10_M0MDB> what is current plan
[10:39] <jcoxon> Colin-G8TMV, do you want to switch to mondo
[10:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> panic number10
[10:39] <Colin-G8TMV> yup - got a dial?
[10:39] <jcoxon> number10_M0MDB, whats mondo dial?
[10:39] <number10_M0MDB> wot
[10:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> congestion over cambridge today
[10:40] <number10_M0MDB> hold on -
[10:40] <Elmar_PD3EM> 'starting to see both mondo-1 and mondo-2 on the waterfall
[10:40] <Elmar_PD3EM> mondo-2 is a little bit stronger
[10:40] <number10_M0MDB> 434.575
[10:41] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: Saturday morning balloon fest, the skies are full of payloads anyone who can receive come chat on IRC http://www.spacenearus/tracker #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/191114047800872960]
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[10:42] <Colin-G8TMV> ok, i have mondo at 434.538
[10:42] <GW8RAK> 2 patch leads, both professional and both useless. Got rid of them and instant decode
[10:42] <Upu_2E0UPU> well Mondo1/2 just crossed the datum line
[10:43] <Laurenceb> 3balloons, 4 payloads?
[10:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> yes Laurenceb
[10:43] <Laurenceb> nice
[10:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> Steve making full use of his NOTAM today
[10:43] <griffonbot> @adamcudworth: RT @AnthonyStirk: Saturday morning balloon fest, the skies are full of payloads anyone who can receive come chat on IRC http://www.space ... [http://twitter.com/adamcudworth/status/191114477566033921]
[10:43] <Laurenceb> see this is why we need a lot of receivers :P
[10:44] <Colin-G8TMV> well M0LEP has run away to Paris
[10:44] <Upu_2E0UPU> right now would be a good time to go walk the dog
[10:44] <cuddykid> with the tracker zoomed out it looks like cambridge is the epicentre of some huge earthquake with all the circles :P
[10:44] <Upu_2E0UPU> I'll leave it on MONDO-2 back in 20
[10:44] <Laurenceb> heh they are heading towards me
[10:44] <Laurenceb> if we get any floaters
[10:45] <G4DPZ> going to get lunch, will leave the tracker running
[10:45] <cuddykid> I guess it's a spacenear.us glitch but& have a look at the altitude graphs for the flights - odd!
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[10:46] <daveake> that's weird
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[10:47] <cuddykid> indeed
[10:47] <GW8RAK> What frequency is XABEN-1
[10:47] <cuddykid> .650
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[10:47] <GW8RAK> thanks
[10:47] <Laurenceb> xaben is an altitude attempt?
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[10:48] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, a test flight
[10:48] <jcoxon> that might go high
[10:48] <Laurenceb> ok
[10:48] <Laurenceb> looks like its going to go high atm
[10:48] <cuddykid> yeah, very
[10:49] <Laurenceb> i might have something land on my if any float
[10:49] Action: Laurenceb is in Notts
[10:49] <cuddykid> right on top of electronic eng building haah
[10:49] <Laurenceb> lol
[10:49] <Laurenceb> damn i should have got my receiver setup
[10:49] <Laurenceb> theres wifi on 15th floor
[10:50] <fsphil-laptop> woo, back. all balloons in the air?
[10:50] <cuddykid> we should have a permanent listening station there - funded by uni :P
[10:50] <Laurenceb> theres some other antenni up there
[10:50] <Laurenceb> dunno what interference would be like
[10:50] <navrac> going to start up a second receiver - any preference what to track with it?
[10:50] <cuddykid> good point
[10:51] Nick change: daveake -> Rocketboy
[10:51] <Rocketboy> yo
[10:51] <Laurenceb> huh
[10:51] <cuddykid> hiya
[10:51] <fsphil-laptop> that's weird
[10:51] <Laurenceb> they were the same person all along?
[10:51] <fsphil-laptop> I knew it!
[10:51] <jcoxon> navrac, probably mondo-1
[10:51] <cuddykid> I guess it's Steve on Dave's laptop?
[10:51] <navrac> ok
[10:51] <Laurenceb> :P
[10:52] <number10_M0MDB> hi guess Rocketboy is holding on for dear life if daveake is driving
[10:52] <Laurenceb> lol
[10:54] <Laurenceb> landing in rutland atm :S
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[10:56] <Rocketboy> yeah - just navigating for dave
[10:56] <fsphil-laptop> strange seeing so many circles on the map
[10:58] <GW8RAK> Are there two payloads on .650 today?
[10:59] <GW8RAK> I've got Xaben on 651.7 and there's another at 647.22
[10:59] <Rocketboy> shouldn't be
[10:59] <Rocketboy> oh
[10:59] <GW8RAK> Not noticed any image problems before with this receiving setup
[10:59] <cuddykid> Rockeyboy: got the ballon earlier, many thanks for saving the day! :D
[10:59] <Rocketboy> cool - np
[11:00] <Rocketboy> daveake's car is well kitted for the chase
[11:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the upload server must be busy today
[11:01] <Colin-G8TMV> is daves car actually moving - it's not doing so on the tracker
[11:02] <Colin-G8TMV> last timestamp from it was 9:04
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[11:02] <GW8RAK> The waterfall trace for Mondo-2 is quite spread out
[11:03] <GW8RAK> Which transmitter is it?
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[11:04] <navrac> yep mondo2 is quite ugly compared to mondo1
[11:04] <Rocketboy> Colin-G8TMV: we have stopped off for a quick break
[11:06] <navrac> second receiver no use - the yagi is only half way up the mask and at that height / direction the house is in the way
[11:06] <navrac> *mast
[11:08] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo has a very wide shift - I'm using 490
[11:08] <number10_M0MDB> he hee I have three payloads decoding :)
[11:08] <Rocketboy> :)
[11:09] <Rocketboy> << dave whilst Steve goes for a break
[11:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> back
[11:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> Mondo2 gone all nasty
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[11:10] <navrac> mondo2 looks ok here - whats nasty?
[11:10] <navrac> oh wobbly
[11:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> very spread out
[11:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> struggling to decode
[11:11] <navrac> have a look at mondo1 - that was even worse
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[11:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> upped filter to 160 and that is decoding now
[11:14] <cuddykid> going to pop to maplin and pick up the magmount antenna :D - might try some decoding on the way back to practice :P
[11:14] <fsphil-laptop> what's mondo-2's frequency?
[11:14] <navrac> interesting if you look on the scope on fldigi on mondo2 the ellipses rotate clockiwise and anticlockwise slightly
[11:15] <navrac> 433 377.500 ish
[11:15] <navrac> oops 434
[11:15] <fsphil-laptop> thanks
[11:16] <fsphil-laptop> can see something, not sure if it's it
[11:16] <fsphil-laptop> it's very weak if it is
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[11:19] <G4DPZ> mondo-1 20k
[11:20] <fsphil-laptop> I can see mondo-2, but yea that signal is not looking great
[11:20] <fsphil-laptop> it's very wide for 50 baud
[11:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> it is
[11:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> but just up the filter
[11:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> decodes fine
[11:21] <fsphil-laptop> still a bit weak for decoding
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[11:22] <on5rz> idd. modno2 just too weak - got 70%
[11:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> only 1 person on MONDO
[11:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> ?
[11:22] <number10_M0MDB> me at the mo
[11:22] <fsphil-laptop> got mondo-1 too
[11:22] <fsphil-laptop> also weak
[11:22] <Laurenceb> we need a receiver allocation system
[11:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> we have one Laurenceb
[11:23] <Laurenceb> with this many balloons
[11:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> its called jcoxon :)
[11:23] <jcoxon> indeed
[11:23] <Laurenceb> lol
[11:23] <jcoxon> navrac, can you track mondo
[11:23] <Laurenceb> heh
[11:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> Ah its ok G8TMV is on it too
[11:23] <number10_M0MDB> I was greedy a moment ago - was decoding three
[11:23] <navrac> ok - will do mondo
[11:23] <jcoxon> we've got it covered
[11:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> how many receivers do you have Number10 ? :)
[11:24] <jcoxon> they are going to accelerate quite a bit
[11:24] <Darkside> pff
[11:24] <number10_M0MDB> two scanners and just got a dongle Upu_2E0UPU
[11:24] <jcoxon> winds must be fast above 20km
[11:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok
[11:24] <number10_M0MDB> but need to set-up decent antenners
[11:24] <Darkside> we're going to have 6 SSB capable receivers in teh car tomorrow :p
[11:24] <jcoxon> Darkside, not sure that makes you cool
[11:24] <jcoxon> :-p
[11:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[11:24] <number10_M0MDB> trust Darkside to go over the top ;)
[11:24] <Darkside> IC-R7000, IC-7000, FT-857, IC-R10, FCD, RTL-SDR
[11:25] <Darkside> IC-R7000 is primary though, its the most sensitive
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[11:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> Darkside advice : never park that in Manchester
[11:25] <Darkside> lol
[11:25] <fsphil-laptop> it cries if you call it bad names?
[11:25] <navrac> ok decoding mondo - shifts not as advertised tho
[11:25] <Darkside> oh yeah you guys might know this
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[11:25] <Darkside> what is the deal with people hating on alan davies?
[11:25] <Darkside> what did he do?
[11:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> Short version
[11:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> years ago some football fans were crushed to death
[11:26] <navrac> mondo has a bad case of the drifties
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[11:26] <Darkside> say no more
[11:26] <Darkside> football fans
[11:26] <Darkside> that just about covers it
[11:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> it was bad but the fans being what they are get super upset about it
[11:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> I don't even know what he said
[11:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> but that
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[11:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> I get my news from www.sickipedia.org so it may not be accurate
[11:27] <danielsaul> < Darkside> | IC-R7000, IC-7000, FT-857, IC-R10,
[11:27] <danielsaul> FCD, RTL-SDR
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[11:27] <danielsaul> oops
[11:28] <Darkside> Upu_2E0UPU: i've just been seeing him re-tweeting the threats he's been getting
[11:28] <fsphil-laptop> those last to don't count as real radios -- they don't have any knobs, dials or switches!
[11:28] <Darkside> lol
[11:28] <on5rz> i' m hearing xaben
[11:29] <Darkside> theres also a SDR-IQ hooked up the IF output of the R7000
[11:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> it was bad but there was a fire at bradford city before that which they don't get as upset about, the whole city stopped buying one newspaper because of an article
[11:29] <Colin-G8TMV> mndo is really all over the place
[11:29] <fsphil-laptop> mondo-1 and -2 are both very weak signals here, I'm not going to be able to decode them
[11:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> Anyway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster <- this if you want more info
[11:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster#Alan_Davies
[11:29] <GW8RAK> Listening to Radio City from Liverpool, there is a constant stream of Hillsborough bleating
[11:29] <Colin-G8TMV> oh, mondo just vanished
[11:29] <GW8RAK> Mondo just went dead
[11:30] <fsphil-laptop> noooo
[11:30] <number10_M0MDB> its shifted
[11:30] <Colin-G8TMV> where to?
[11:30] <GW8RAK> .540
[11:30] <GW8RAK> Why did it do that?
[11:31] <GW8RAK> Jumping around now. Sounds like batteries
[11:31] <jcoxon> not burst?
[11:31] <fsphil-laptop> what's xaben's dial at?
[11:31] <number10_M0MDB> no alt is increasing
[11:31] <Darkside> also guys
[11:31] <GW8RAK> sounds very strange
[11:31] <Darkside> i'll be clearing the tracker in about 10 hours
[11:31] <Darkside> when i wake up
[11:32] <jcoxon> Darkside, no problem
[11:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO-1 battery 40%
[11:33] <on5rz> xaben 652.5
[11:33] <navrac> mondo is going well weird - jumping freq and changing freq by 100hz at0.5hz
[11:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> I hope thats not a linear discharge
[11:33] <fsphil-laptop> think I'm seeing xaben now
[11:34] <fsphil-laptop> aye
[11:34] <navrac> mondo 1 just jumped 500hz
[11:35] <navrac> and the sinal is not looking good
[11:35] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo jumped again and moving around a lot
[11:35] <navrac> not mondo1 - mondo -sorry
[11:35] <navrac> yep its a bit nasty colin-g8tmv
[11:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> on5rz got MONDO2
[11:37] <navrac> get a lot of false reads on mondo now despite being strong
[11:37] <on5rz> jup , feet are dry
[11:39] <schofieldau> haha LAN party network frustrations :|
[11:39] <number10_M0MDB> mondo now sounding like a duck under water
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[11:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO-2 doesn't sound great very "splashy" signal
[11:40] <Upu_2E0UPU> at least our descriptions are consistent
[11:40] <navrac> mondo does as well -
[11:40] <number10_M0MDB> :)
[11:40] <navrac> blowing bubbles
[11:41] <Laurenceb> is MONDO alive?
[11:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> As Mick is testing new antennas I'm sure he'd appreciate feedback with regards to signal
[11:41] <navrac> alive - but not well
[11:41] <number10_M0MDB> Mondo is alive but being strangled
[11:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> screen shots, recordings etc
[11:41] <navrac> ithe signal is strong but the toes are all over the shop
[11:42] <jcoxon> wow my ublox is keeping lock indoors
[11:42] <jcoxon> thats a first
[11:42] <fsphil-laptop> nice signal from xaben
[11:42] <fsphil-laptop> bit wobbly but strong
[11:42] <Upu_2E0UPU> that the one I sent the other day James ?
[11:43] <jcoxon> yeah
[11:43] <jcoxon> i live in a faraday cage
[11:43] <Laurenceb> ublox6?
[11:43] <jcoxon> yeah
[11:43] <jcoxon> its been outside to get a lick
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[11:43] <jcoxon> lock*
[11:43] <jcoxon> eek
[11:44] <Upu_2E0UPU> 27km
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[11:44] <GW8RAK> Bloody hell it's cold outside today
[11:45] <fsphil-laptop> it's snowing here
[11:45] <navrac> mondo is putting out 4 distinct tones
[11:45] <SpeedEvil> It's not cold here.
[11:45] <navrac> as well as chirps and sliding whistls
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[11:45] <fsphil-laptop> not proper snow, just the odd flake
[11:46] <SpeedEvil> Actually - it's ~8C
[11:46] <fsphil-laptop> and a bit of hail
[11:46] <SpeedEvil> But I've been lying outside in the greenhouse where it's ~30C
[11:46] <GW8RAK> A friend in midWales woke up to snow this morning, on the ground and still coming down.
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[11:46] <fsphil-laptop> eek
[11:46] <GW8RAK> Come in to get a coat on
[11:46] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo is being weird
[11:46] <number10_M0MDB> does anyone know of an antenna mounting bracket for a 3/4 inch pole?
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[11:47] <Colin-G8TMV> and then you get:
[11:47] <jcoxon> can anyone track mondo-1
[11:47] <jcoxon> haven't had an update it a while
[11:47] <Colin-G8TMV> $MONDO,298,11:46:33,+5216.3252,+00001.3192,23181xÿLLaè0# ".S÷×mÜ1*67
[11:47] <Futurity_> i'll have a go
[11:47] <fsphil-laptop> xaben getting weaker again
[11:47] <navrac> i can move over to mondo1 - mondo is unuseable
[11:47] <JM_> tracking Xaben - switching to Mondo
[11:47] <GW8RAK> Trying here jcoxon, but not a lot of success
[11:47] <navrac> oh good luck mate
[11:48] <navrac> 298 was the last almost complete packet
[11:48] <Colin-G8TMV> JM_: currently 434.539 and *510* shift
[11:49] <Futurity_> is it me, or is MONDO-1 on 434.22245 just a constant tone?
[11:49] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.378
[11:49] <Upu_2E0UPU> for Mondo-1
[11:49] <Upu_2E0UPU> and you'll need to increase filter bandwidth
[11:49] <Upu_2E0UPU> and shift
[11:49] <Colin-G8TMV> Upu_2E0UPU: yeah, the tracker info is wrong
[11:49] <Upu_2E0UPU> 465 very ish
[11:49] <Futurity_> surely that MONDO-2 on 434.378 as it started on 434.375?
[11:50] <Futurity_> oh i see
[11:50] <Upu_2E0UPU> err sorry
[11:50] <JM_> $$MONDM-2,414,11:49:37,+5221.6548,-00004.3060,29031,27.7,318.3,04.7,+10*75
[11:50] <Upu_2E0UPU> ignore me
[11:50] <Upu_2E0UPU> yes I'm on Mondo-2
[11:50] <G4DPZ> lost lock on mondo-1
[11:51] <JM_> First good packet from Mondo 2
[11:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> love the line of balloons
[11:51] <jcoxon> okay, can someone keep an eye on Mondo and Mondo-1
[11:51] <jcoxon> everyone else follow Mondo-2 and XABEN1
[11:51] <navrac> im on mondo still - but its a loosing battle
[11:51] <Colin-G8TMV> I'm still on mondo
[11:51] <Futurity_> ok, now tracking MONDO-1 on 434.375
[11:51] <fsphil-laptop> it's almost like it was planned
[11:52] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo is 90% garbage
[11:52] <jcoxon> Mondo-1 is fine as its attached to Mondo-2
[11:52] <jcoxon> oh wait Mondo-1 is working again
[11:52] <jcoxon> never mind
[11:52] <Upu_2E0UPU> try get some incomplete packets from MONDO
[11:52] <Upu_2E0UPU> if we can manually tell where it is thats a good thing
[11:52] <G4DPZ> shift 470
[11:53] <Futurity_> dl-fldigi says its mondo-2 on 434.379 (from the data)
[11:53] <G4DPZ> in lock
[11:53] <fsphil-laptop> xaben burst?
[11:53] <fsphil-laptop> nope
[11:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO-2 is on 434.378
[11:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> its a wierd signal
[11:54] <Colin-G8TMV> a´0Ë11:53:39,;5217.6077,+00000.2472,2571(ý6Fv6Â&Vv
[11:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> but it decodes so whatever
[11:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> tbh if Mondo-2 was on 075 there wouldn't be a hope in hell I could decode this
[11:55] <fsphil-laptop> must be quite windy up there today
[11:55] <Futurity_> ok first decoded mondo-2 line
[11:55] <navrac> mondo - 54:33,+5217.7241,+00000.0309,26039ÿÿ,011.5,353.1,05.4,+00*6E
[11:55] <Colin-G8TMV> þ11:54:33,+5217.7241,+00000.0309<2&0ç11
[11:55] <jcoxon> its overtaken xaben1 in alt
[11:56] <Futurity_> switching back to xaben due to local interference for mondo-2
[11:57] <Colin-G8TMV> $MONDO,333,11:56:52l#µ28.0767,-00001.0005,26879,019.1,3ó1.2,05,3,+0
[11:57] <navrac> $MONDO,333,11:56:52l#28.0767,-00001.0005,26879,019.1,331.2,05.3,+00*6D
[11:57] <Colin-G8TMV> Oh, I did actually get a good packet!
[11:57] <navrac> got a green packet!
[11:58] <navrac> spoke to soon there colin - were not going to get another one
[11:58] <Colin-G8TMV> yup and the map updated
[11:58] <navrac> it is starting to be a little more stable
[11:58] <on5rz> hehe.. smaller 1.9 filter and 15 ele beam seems to work better
[11:59] <fsphil-laptop> xaben's being swung about pretty badly from the sound of it :)
[11:59] <Colin-G8TMV> +528.5343,-00002.3973,²
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[12:00] <vk5gr> ping Darkside
[12:00] <Colin-G8TMV> He went to bed I think
[12:01] <navrac> $$MONDO,346,12:00:44,+528.8819,-00003.3987,28314,030.9,288.7,05.4,+01*69
[12:01] <vk5gr> no probs - thanks
[12:01] <Colin-G8TMV> $MONDO,347,12:01:01,+5218.9529,-00003.5848,28420,x37.1,304.0,05.5,+01*6
[12:01] <navrac> another greeny
[12:01] <navrac> 28532m
[12:01] <Rocketboy> in the danger zone for early burst
[12:02] <Rocketboy> for xaben
[12:02] <fsphil-laptop> I keep thinking it has Rocketboy by the way it sounds
[12:03] <navrac> 29km for mondo
[12:03] <G0MJW> Bit weak with just a vertical but got a packet from Mondo-2.
[12:03] <navrac> mondo still rising fast
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[12:06] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO-2 seems to have clean up a bit
[12:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Current Mondo-1 freq?
[12:06] <G4DPZ> 434.238.43
[12:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> tnx
[12:07] <Colin-G8TMV> 12:06:57,+5220.5846,-00007.7945,376,042.4,297.3,05.9,+03
[12:07] <Colin-G8TMV> oh, got a green one
[12:07] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO-2 has a strong signal OZ1SKY_Brian thats on 434.378
[12:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Ok Upu will tune to Mondo-2
[12:08] <G4DPZ> mondo-1 35k
[12:10] <Colin-G8TMV> $MONDO,376,12:09:38,+5221.5758,-00009.9707,31699,042.2,312.7,05.6,+°
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[12:10] <G4DPZ> off out will leave tracker running
[12:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> Well I put in 37.5km for Mondo burst
[12:11] <fsphil-laptop> xaben keeps fading suddenly
[12:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> spinning ?
[12:11] <fsphil-laptop> I think so
[12:11] <G4DPZ> mondo-1 38k
[12:11] <fsphil-laptop> but it's very sudden sometimes
[12:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> G4DPZ 36k
[12:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> it can't be 38k its attached to MONDO-2 :)
[12:12] <G4DPZ> darn :-)
[12:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> unless the cord suddenly stretched alot
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[12:13] <G4DPZ> comin down?
[12:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> nope
[12:13] <Colin-G8TMV> DO,388,1"813:11,+5222.6981,-00012.6671,33043,037.0,301.$05.5,+04*6
[12:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> does not look like i will hear anything, still well out of the footprint, and we are near burst hight
[12:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> don't write it off just yet Brian
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[12:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> well im not putting any money on it
[12:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> keep your eye on XABEN
[12:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> if the balloon performs it really should get 40k
[12:14] <Colin-G8TMV> $$MONDO,392,12:14:23,+5223.1289,-00013.8610,33ó*þ,049.4,293.8,05.4,0$*64
[12:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok at 40K ill be at the rim
[12:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah
[12:15] <Upu_2E0UPU> weakening singal from MONDO-2 hit 37k
[12:15] <fsphil-laptop> xaben's wandering a bit
[12:16] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO-2 just went very weak
[12:16] <number10_M0MDB> strange - I can get xaben on scanner with antenna indoors, but with funcube and antenna outdoors I cant see sig
[12:16] <Upu_2E0UPU> whos on MONDO-2 ?
[12:17] <fsphil-laptop> funcube is likely being overloaded by nearby signals number10_M0MDB
[12:17] <fsphil-laptop> I see the same effect
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[12:17] <number10_M0MDB> thanks fsphil-laptop
[12:17] <fsphil-laptop> I can track sondes with the indoor antenna, but not the colinear on the roof
[12:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO2 just hit 38k
[12:18] <Upu_2E0UPU> But I can't decode it
[12:18] <fsphil-laptop> xaben's very quiet now
[12:18] <Colin-G8TMV> nother green one from mondo
[12:18] <fsphil-laptop> or XIAAN1 as my computer is decoding it as
[12:19] <on5rz> xaben same strenght for last 5 mins here
[12:19] <JM_> on mondo-2 now
[12:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh well that 6th place didn't last long :/
[12:19] <fsphil-laptop> these flights have all beaten my altitudes :)
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[12:20] <Matt_soton> what balloons are these?
[12:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> 1600g
[12:20] <fsphil-laptop> well except xaban1
[12:20] <fsphil-laptop> xaben1
[12:20] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo gone more stable - but sig strength dropped way down
[12:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> Hwyoee
[12:20] <Matt_soton> new batch of howyee? :/
[12:20] <fsphil-laptop> yay, decode!
[12:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO-2 39k
[12:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> yes Matt
[12:21] <Upu_2E0UPU> I think they are
[12:21] <fsphil-laptop> xaben's shift is spot on 400hz, and I'm using 100hz bandwidth which decodes a lot better than the default
[12:21] <Matt_soton> so buzz just had a dodgy one?
[12:22] <fsphil-laptop> there where a few 1600g flights that burst really early
[12:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> well Steve had 2 fail at 27km too
[12:22] <Matt_soton> this seem fine however :P
[12:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> these are performing well :)
[12:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> anything over 37km is a bonus
[12:23] <fsphil-laptop> drat, this may make my alt launch more difficult :)
[12:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> at the rate Mondo is going up eve if the balloon bursts it will still go up a bit more
[12:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> eve=even
[12:24] <fsphil-laptop> 32k for xaben
[12:24] <jcoxon> 4th place
[12:24] <Colin-G8TMV> another green from mondo
[12:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> Ok Mondo's beaten Micks previous record of 39854 and is approaching the magical 40k currently 3rd
[12:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> ascent slowing
[12:26] <jcoxon> ascent rate is dropping...
[12:26] <jcoxon> haha
[12:26] <fsphil-laptop> here we go
[12:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> 40k
[12:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> :)
[12:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> still going up though
[12:26] <fsphil-laptop> so it's either about to burst or float
[12:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> wheres Darkside when you need to rub a record in his face
[12:26] <Darkside> burstburstburst
[12:26] <GW8RAK> lol
[12:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[12:26] <fsphil-laptop> haha
[12:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> 40575
[12:27] <Colin-G8TMV> <g>
[12:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> Darkside
[12:27] <number10_M0MDB> get some sleep Darkside
[12:27] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo getting there too - currently 38234
[12:27] <fsphil-laptop> yea nothing to see here Darkside
[12:27] <Darkside> bloody hwoyee balloons...
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[12:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> dammit signal just went rubbish
[12:28] <Colin-G8TMV> whatever was up with mondo is mostly fixed - I'm getting mostly good decodes now
[12:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> just gone completely weak
[12:28] <jcoxon> okay, quick switch to mondo1 or mondo2
[12:28] <jcoxon> need to have as many listeners a possible
[12:28] <jcoxon> if going for records
[12:28] <fsphil-laptop> what's the dial?
[12:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.378
[12:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> just died for me
[12:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh its back
[12:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> and takes Darksides record
[12:29] <Darkside> but not daveakes
[12:29] <Darkside> yet
[12:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> 40986
[12:29] <jcoxon> more listeners!
[12:29] <Darkside> wait, i thought someone got 41km?
[12:30] <jcoxon> we are talking about UK still
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[12:30] <fsphil-laptop> decoding mondo-2 perfectly
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[12:30] <fsphil-laptop> though it does sound odd
[12:30] <jcoxon> about to float...
[12:30] <r2x0t> rate still slowing... time to start floating :)
[12:31] <fsphil-laptop> and it keeps pausing in inappropriate places
[12:31] <on5rz> 40787
[12:31] <fsphil-laptop> 40.8
[12:31] <on5rz> 803 ;-)
[12:31] <GW8RAK> Did anyone tell the Americans in writing, in triplicate 3 weeks ago that there was an altitude attempt?
[12:32] <jcoxon> yup
[12:32] <jcoxon> its on the arhab launch page
[12:32] <fsphil-laptop> they're vogons?
[12:32] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo through 40K too
[12:32] <jcoxon> so did steve
[12:32] <cuddykid> wth - nothing on the whip here& I thought a whip would easily pick it up with los
[12:33] <fsphil-laptop> so near 41km
[12:33] <fsphil-laptop> c'mon!
[12:33] <GW8RAK> Getting close
[12:33] <fsphil-laptop> aaarg
[12:33] <GW8RAK> 41007
[12:33] <on5rz> 6 more !
[12:33] <Colin-G8TMV> what is the record?
[12:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> he's got it
[12:33] <jcoxon> thats a uk record
[12:33] <jcoxon> now world
[12:34] <fsphil-laptop> mondo-2's at 41km!
[12:34] <jcoxon> 41619
[12:34] <on5rz> 41034 nice
[12:34] <Upu_2E0UPU> was just reading it out to Dave and Steve
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[12:34] <Darkside> 41619 is world
[12:34] <fsphil-laptop> ack, qrm
[12:34] <jcoxon> mondo is sneaking up
[12:34] <Upu_2E0UPU> burst ?
[12:34] <fsphil-laptop> burst
[12:34] <Darkside> 41157 is lockheed martin;s record
[12:34] <Darkside> aww
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[12:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> thats got to be a burst
[12:35] <fsphil-laptop> boy that's a weird noise lol
[12:35] <fsphil-laptop> 40.6km
[12:35] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[12:35] <junderwood> coming down
[12:35] <on5rz> idd. like a slow record
[12:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> nice 41km
[12:35] <jcoxon> switch to mondo
[12:35] <fsphil-laptop> very impressive
[12:35] <on5rz> 38 km !!
[12:35] <fsphil-laptop> where's mondo on the dial?
[12:35] <fsphil-laptop> ooh I got a decode from all that nonsense lol
[12:35] <on5rz> 37 and dropping fast
[12:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> mondo dieal pls
[12:36] <on5rz> 434.380.42
[12:36] <Darkside> 90m/s
[12:36] <Darkside> wow
[12:36] <r2x0t> wow -90.6 m/s
[12:36] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo at 41k
[12:36] <on5rz> 35.8
[12:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO no number
[12:36] <Colin-G8TMV> yup
[12:36] <Darkside> oh wow
[12:36] <Colin-G8TMV> 411178
[12:36] <Darkside> Mondo is still going up!
[12:36] <Darkside> nice
[12:36] <Colin-G8TMV> 41178
[12:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.538 for MONDO
[12:37] <Darkside> there goes' lockheed martins record
[12:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> not yet
[12:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> 41325
[12:37] <fsphil-laptop> 41325
[12:37] <fsphil-laptop> eeeeeee
[12:37] <Darkside> hmm
[12:37] <on5rz> 30.4 mondo2
[12:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> record is 41618
[12:37] <Darkside> wha?
[12:37] <Darkside> wheres 41325?
[12:37] <Darkside> its not on the arhabv site
[12:37] <Colin-G8TMV> 41395
[12:37] <jcoxon> Darkside, yeah it is
[12:37] <jcoxon> CNSP did it
[12:37] <Darkside> oh that one
[12:37] <Darkside> i see
[12:38] <Colin-G8TMV> 41470
[12:38] Action: fsphil-laptop bites nails
[12:38] <x-f> tension grows
[12:38] <fsphil-laptop> only a few 100 m away
[12:38] <Colin-G8TMV> 41625
[12:38] <fsphil-laptop> aack
[12:38] <Upu_2E0UPU> uh oh
[12:38] <fsphil-laptop> that wasn't good
[12:38] <G0MJW> Off!
[12:38] <fsphil-laptop> 41625
[12:38] <Colin-G8TMV> or radio jumped again
[12:39] <Darkside> !!
[12:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> what the hell happened there
[12:39] <fsphil-laptop> sounds like dominoex
[12:39] <G0MJW> back
[12:39] <fsphil-laptop> a really quick dominoex
[12:39] <Colin-G8TMV> last line was
[12:39] <Colin-G8TMV> $$M_NDO,t73,1":38:22,+526.0065,-00030.2457,41625,040.9,D·U?JR
[12:39] <fsphil-laptop> does that count?
[12:39] <Darkside> damn
[12:39] <fsphil-laptop> it beats the record if it does
[12:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> no
[12:39] <jcoxon> needs a complete string
[12:39] <fsphil-laptop> ack
[12:40] <fsphil-laptop> 300 baud people!!!
[12:40] <fsphil-laptop> :)
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[12:40] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: ?
[12:40] <jcoxon> has it burst then?
[12:40] <G0MJW> Last one I saw was 41470 and not complete
[12:40] <navrac> 41547 was the last completye string i got
[12:40] <Upu_2E0UPU> no idea
[12:40] <Colin-G8TMV> someone please have a search and see if the radio jumped freq again
[12:40] <G0MJW> 4625 sorry
[12:40] <Upu_2E0UPU> gone mental
[12:40] <G0MJW> 41625
[12:40] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, if it was 300 baud it would have transmitted the string before it burst :)
[12:40] <Darkside> ahh :P
[12:40] <fsphil-laptop> right, xaben
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[12:40] <Matt_soton> does it count if thers loggin on board?
[12:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> should od
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[12:41] <jcoxon> Upu_2E0UPU, no more data :-(
[12:41] <Laurenceb> damn
[12:41] <Matt_soton> 27km
[12:41] <navrac> 27010
[12:41] <fsphil-laptop> I think it has to be received on the ground by more than a few stations
[12:41] <G0MJW> try widening your detection bandwidth. It is just about working
[12:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> wait
[12:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> it settled
[12:41] <fsphil-laptop> 37.5km for xaben
[12:42] <Laurenceb> last packet is soo close
[12:42] <cuddykid> that Mondo is all over the place
[12:42] <jcoxon> descent
[12:42] <navrac> no mondos stable now
[12:42] <Matt_soton> well tahts a very motion sensitive radio
[12:42] <Colin-G8TMV> right I've got it again
[12:42] <Matt_soton> what is it?
[12:42] <G0MJW> 24k?
[12:42] <navrac> but rapid descent
[12:42] <Darkside> jeez they drop fast
[12:42] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO ...
[12:42] <fsphil-laptop> resistance is absent
[12:42] <Upu_2E0UPU> burst
[12:42] <navrac> 23701
[12:42] <Darkside> 90m/s was insane
[12:42] <Upu_2E0UPU> unsurprisingly
[12:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> Right we need to keep a track on these as best we can but cover XABEN
[12:43] <jcoxon> thats 200mph
[12:43] <navrac> so the highest complete packet was 41547
[12:43] <fsphil-laptop> 38km
[12:43] <jcoxon> navrac, yup
[12:43] <G0MJW> We all saw 41625 but it must have burst just at the end of it.
[12:43] <navrac> and 41625 not complet
[12:44] <Colin-G8TMV> indeed
[12:44] <Darkside> this is why you should all be using 300 baud :P
[12:44] <fsphil-laptop> just a few more seconds would have done too
[12:44] <navrac> $$MONDO,473,12:38:22,+5226.0065,-00030.2457,41625,040.9,2Î3
[12:44] <Colin-G8TMV> I'm getting some good decodes again btw
[12:44] <navrac> yep i've had 10 greens in a row now
[12:44] <G4DPZ> can track mondo-1 down to about 5k
[12:44] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok switching back to MONDO-2
[12:45] <Darkside> about time i went to sleep
[12:45] <jcoxon> xaben1 still could do it
[12:45] <Darkside> cyas all in about 9 hours..
[12:45] <fsphil-laptop> nite Darkside
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[12:45] <fsphil-laptop> lovely signal from xaben1 here
[12:46] <Matt_soton> are all non standard frequencies from rfm22bs?
[12:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> no some other transmitter
[12:46] <fsphil-laptop> 39km
[12:47] <G0MJW> Time to look at XABEN1
[12:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> http://www.mkconsultants.eu/default.aspx
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[12:47] <Matt_soton> the mondo-1 transmitter is quite bad atm
[12:47] <G0MJW> 39k
[12:47] <fsphil-laptop> mondo had a strange sound to it even when it was good
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[12:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> whats dial on XABEN please ?
[12:47] <fsphil-laptop> 434.651.3
[12:47] <G0MJW> 652
[12:47] <Darkside> goddamnit, i'm going to have to do another launch when i'm over there aren't i
[12:47] <GW8RAK> .65175
[12:48] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok punched in XABEN ON VFOB
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[12:48] <Upu_2E0UPU> will sit on MONDO-2 until itgets super interesting
[12:48] <fsphil-laptop> I wonder if I can receive xaben on the indoor antenna
[12:48] <navrac> ok - what should i e tracking now - currently on mondo
[12:48] <GW8RAK> So busy here I didn't hear the hailstones outside on the almost dry washing :(
[12:48] <fsphil-laptop> noooo
[12:48] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[12:48] <GW8RAK> Xaben is a strong signal
[12:48] <fsphil-laptop> it's decoding perfectly here
[12:48] <fsphil-laptop> which is nice
[12:48] <jcoxon> navrac, keep on mondo
[12:49] <jcoxon> xaben is covered right now
[12:49] <navrac> no prob
[12:49] <fsphil-laptop> 478km distance
[12:49] <fsphil-laptop> and getting closer
[12:49] <Upu_2E0UPU> just outside of OZ1SKY_Brian range :/
[12:49] <fsphil-laptop> 39.5km
[12:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes not going to hear anything even if it gets to 45K
[12:50] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO is coming down too fast
[12:50] <fsphil-laptop> now that would be something
[12:50] <fsphil-laptop> 39.7
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[12:51] <fsphil-laptop> you guys are making 40km look easy
[12:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> well XABEN has H2 and isn't a heavy payload so bets are on
[12:51] <fsphil-laptop> just past the 40km mark now
[12:51] <fsphil-laptop> here we go again :)
[12:51] <fsphil-laptop> this isn't healthy :p
[12:51] <GW8RAK> The signal is so strong it overpowers the regular noise bursts I get here
[12:52] <Colin-G8TMV> Upu_2E0UPU: the rate shown might be off because of so many bad decodes
[12:52] <Upu_2E0UPU> Colin-G8TMV it still too quick even with
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[12:52] <Upu_2E0UPU> speed at 10km divide by 2 and thats the landing speed
[12:52] <G0MJW> Getting there...
[12:52] <Colin-G8TMV> did the chase team take a spade to dig it out?
[12:52] <number10_M0MDB> people just have to get in their cars and interfere... dont they know there is a record attempt on!
[12:52] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[12:53] <fsphil-laptop> much steadier signal than earlier
[12:53] <on5rz> xaben 622 km distance
[12:53] <Upu_2E0UPU> nice
[12:53] <fsphil-laptop> not much wind above 40km then
[12:53] <Upu_2E0UPU> not bad for 10mW on5rz :)
[12:53] <fsphil-laptop> whoa, decoding on5rz?
[12:53] <fsphil-laptop> impressive
[12:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> number10_M0MDB when its over, its paybacktime, just put a strong carrier out and look out the window
[12:53] <fsphil-laptop> ascent rate slowing
[12:54] <number10_M0MDB> lol, will do
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[12:54] <on5rz> indeed.. 62200 km/w
[12:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> well guess this new batch are good
[12:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> that much has been proven
[12:54] <fsphil-laptop> 40.6km
[12:55] <on5rz> yup SNR 6 db
[12:55] <fsphil-laptop> my precious 1600g isn't so precious anymore ;)
[12:55] <Upu_2E0UPU> 1000 meters left
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[12:55] <Colin-G8TMV> mondo's radio going bad again
[12:56] <fsphil-laptop> 2.2m/s
[12:56] <fsphil-laptop> there's an awful lot of 0's in that string
[12:56] <G0MJW> Pop
[12:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> burst ?
[12:56] <fsphil-laptop> nope
[12:56] <fsphil-laptop> 40853
[12:56] <jcoxon> G0MJW, !
[12:56] <G0MJW> Sudden change in audio though
[12:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> don't do that :)
[12:56] <fsphil-laptop> 40895
[12:56] <futurity> xaben1 still going up, not popped
[12:57] <fsphil-laptop> steady here
[12:57] <fsphil-laptop> c'mon you ball
[12:57] <cuddykid> dun dun
[12:57] <Upu_2E0UPU> our balls are going high today
[12:57] <fsphil-laptop> indeed
[12:57] <Colin-G8TMV> the shockwave when mondo hits the ground will pop it
[12:57] <G0MJW> Well 41k!
[12:57] <fsphil-laptop> 41km
[12:57] <cuddykid> screw the grand national this is where the bets should be placed!
[12:57] <Darkside> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-fIn2QZgg
[12:57] <Upu_2E0UPU> wish MONDO-2 would fade so I can switch
[12:58] <Darkside> everyonw play that video now
[12:58] <Darkside> :D
[12:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> can't go to bed Darkside ? :)
[12:58] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[12:58] <Darkside> i'm in bed
[12:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[12:58] <fsphil-laptop> 1.9m/s
[12:58] <fsphil-laptop> this might make it
[12:58] <jcoxon> right over the top of each other
[12:59] <G0MJW> Make what? 42, 43?
[12:59] <Upu_2E0UPU> 500 meters
[12:59] <fsphil-laptop> 41.2
[12:59] <fsphil-laptop> hurry up, I have to eat!
[13:00] <Upu_2E0UPU> MONDO-2 is still annoyingly strong want to switch :)
[13:00] <GW8RAK> Cup of tea can wait
[13:00] <fsphil-laptop> 41.3
[13:00] <cuddykid> so, what do we think.. new world record? - I say yes :P
[13:00] <Upu_2E0UPU> sssh
[13:00] <Upu_2E0UPU> don't anger the balloon gods
[13:00] <cuddykid> lol
[13:01] <Darkside> so is XABEN doing 300 baud?
[13:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> no 50
[13:01] <G0MJW> Balloon gods?
[13:01] <GW8RAK> speeding up
[13:01] <Darkside> jeez
[13:01] <Darkside> what is with you people
[13:01] <Darkside> 300 baud gives you way more data :P
[13:01] <Darkside> none of this horrible waiting
[13:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> don't need more data
[13:01] <Colin-G8TMV> just lost mondo
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[13:01] <Colin-G8TMV> dial for xaben?
[13:01] <fsphil-laptop> 434.651.3
[13:01] <fsphil-laptop> USB
[13:01] <G0MJW> Still 434.652
[13:01] <fsphil-laptop> 41.5km
[13:02] <fsphil-laptop> eeeeee
[13:02] <Upu_2E0UPU> XABEN XABEN XABEN
[13:02] <Darkside> GIMME A X
[13:02] <Darkside> GIMME A A
[13:02] <daveake> yea
[13:02] <fsphil-laptop> 41.59
[13:02] <Darkside> gimme a BEN
[13:02] <GW8RAK> I can guess what's coming Darkside
[13:02] <kokey> wow
[13:02] <kokey> nice altitude
[13:02] <fsphil-laptop> 41.606
[13:02] <fsphil-laptop> sooooo near
[13:03] <cuddykid> whats the rec?
[13:03] <G0MJW> Slowing...
[13:03] <daveake> whats the world ?
[13:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> 7 meters !
[13:03] <fsphil-laptop> aaarg
[13:03] <Darkside> 41619
[13:03] <G0MJW> Floating?
[13:03] <cuddykid> lol
[13:03] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[13:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> 41618 = record
[13:03] <r2x0t> lol
[13:03] <navrac> yep
[13:03] <cuddykid> gahhhhh
[13:03] <fsphil-laptop> nooo
[13:03] <on5rz> down
[13:03] <fsphil-laptop> descent
[13:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[13:03] <GW8RAK> floating
[13:03] <daveake> noooooooooooooooooooooo
[13:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> no way
[13:03] <fsphil-laptop> that's evil!!!
[13:03] <navrac> only just..
[13:03] <navrac> its floating
[13:03] <fsphil-laptop> aand qrm
[13:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> signal weak
[13:03] <on5rz> 300bd ;-)
[13:03] <G0MJW> Ha!
[13:04] <Darkside> ohhhhh man
[13:04] <Darkside> thats horrible
[13:04] <cuddykid> yeah, float
[13:04] <Upu_2E0UPU> omg thats unbelievable
[13:04] <r2x0t> oh wow
[13:04] <daveake> amazed
[13:04] <cuddykid> If the string had just been a little shorter!!
[13:04] <kokey> haha
[13:04] <navrac> going up
[13:04] <on5rz> going up again
[13:04] <G0MJW> Hmm.
[13:04] <Darkside> you might be needing that pyro..
[13:04] <GW8RAK> Up
[13:04] <on5rz> !!
[13:04] <G0MJW> 1m
[13:04] <Upu_2E0UPU> 1 meter
[13:04] <navrac> 17!
[13:05] <Upu_2E0UPU> no f?cking way
[13:05] <kokey> one or two meters
[13:05] <Upu_2E0UPU> YES
[13:05] <kokey> go on
[13:05] <G0MJW> Hey
[13:05] <navrac> yep
[13:05] <GW8RAK> woo hoo
[13:05] <daveake> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[13:05] <Upu_2E0UPU> GOT IT
[13:05] <cuddykid> nice
[13:05] <Darkside> GPS error :P
[13:05] <kokey> YES
[13:05] <daveake> get in there
[13:05] <on5rz> this is fun
[13:05] <GW8RAK> lol Darkside
[13:05] <G0MJW> GPS - I wonder
[13:05] <Upu_2E0UPU> and still going up
[13:05] <Darkside> NICE
[13:05] <Darkside> new world record!
[13:05] <Laurenceb> victory to uk
[13:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> fantastic!
[13:05] <x-f> woo!
[13:05] <kokey> 65!
[13:05] <G0MJW> Congratulations
[13:06] <Colin-G8TMV> Yay!
[13:06] <navrac> congratulations - thats excellent
[13:06] <Jim3> wOOt! - congrats everyone
[13:06] <kokey> woah
[13:06] <kokey> it keeps going
[13:06] <futurity> Congratulations All :)
[13:06] <jcoxon> it was teasing us
[13:06] <Darkside> now the question is, what made it float for a bit, then go up again..
[13:06] <jcoxon> now its just showing off
[13:06] <Upu_2E0UPU> just a bit
[13:06] <Darkside> Laurenceb: gravity waves?
[13:07] <Laurenceb> looks like it
[13:07] <kokey> I wonder if it's some kind of thermal
[13:07] <navrac> i think it was so many people urging it on....
[13:07] <G0MJW> cussedness
[13:07] <kokey> highish pressure thermal so the balloon doesn't pop
[13:07] <Darkside> i'm betting its a gravity wave
[13:07] <jcoxon> who knows at that altitudes
[13:07] <Darkside> they affect things at those heights
[13:08] <Darkside> hell, gravity waves cause disturbances in the ionosphere...
[13:08] <kokey> maybe space and time got bent so the GPS satellites are closer to it
[13:08] <Darkside> 41.8km...
[13:08] <Darkside> goddamn
[13:08] <G0MJW> tides
[13:08] <cuddykid> get moving chase car! :P
[13:08] <on5rz> god stretched out his hands
[13:08] <kokey> is this an h2 balloon?
[13:08] <Upu_2E0UPU> yes
[13:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu_2E0UPU wish it would have come abit closer to me, would have made a good distance
[13:08] <futurity> Corby perhaps is more dense, hence the float
[13:09] <Colin-G8TMV> 41.9k
[13:09] <G0MJW> more dense?
[13:09] <Darkside> yeah, waves of denser air
[13:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> less dense ?
[13:09] <GW8RAK> Some really international tracking of this one
[13:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh the air
[13:09] <futurity> more mass, so it counteracted the balloon's lift
[13:09] <Darkside> i.e. gravity waves
[13:10] <G0MJW> will it or wont it
[13:10] <futurity> mass not intelligence
[13:10] <navrac> ive got the tardis materialising playing in my office - and a tardis downstairs - i wonder if its warping space time
[13:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> Send this to Cornell : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk
[13:10] <futurity> can't decode now. has it burst?
[13:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> nope
[13:10] <jcoxon> pah cornell lost their record a while ago
[13:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> 41932
[13:10] <navrac> 41932
[13:10] <jcoxon> its CNSP
[13:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> sorry them
[13:10] <Darkside> haha
[13:10] <futurity> signal gone from here
[13:10] <kokey> love the temperature
[13:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> 41942
[13:10] <kokey> or are there no sensors?
[13:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> no sensors
[13:11] <navrac> only 41m to go#
[13:11] <futurity> does anyone have the frequency? it just seemed to fade out on me
[13:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> 42km
[13:11] <G0MJW> way
[13:11] <navrac> 42km
[13:11] <futurity> Xaben1 i mean
[13:12] <Darkside> :O
[13:12] <r2x0t> now it's good time for listeners to break distance record
[13:12] <Darkside> god. damn.
[13:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> you know its good when it's off the scale on the left
[13:12] <jcoxon> i remeber when we had to change that
[13:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> ascent increasing
[13:12] <r2x0t> it's visible from central germany
[13:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> r2x0t sscchhh :-)
[13:12] <jcoxon> as it used to not allow you above 40km
[13:12] <Darkside> haha
[13:12] <jcoxon> we assumed it would never go that high
[13:12] <Darkside> yes that happened on my flight
[13:13] <Darkside> Randomskk hacked it to work during the flight
[13:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V290U-Wfe0c some appropriate music for you
[13:13] <GW8RAK> I really should be painting by now
[13:13] <kokey> that's some good latex that
[13:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> and pop ?
[13:14] <GW8RAK> Careful who you say that to kokey
[13:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> no
[13:14] <on5rz> dropping?
[13:14] <navrac> slow descent?
[13:14] <futurity> is the signal still strong? wondering if i have rig problems?
[13:14] <navrac> still strong here
[13:14] <r2x0t> float
[13:14] <kokey> yup, there it goes
[13:14] <G0MJW> Hmm fast descent
[13:14] <Colin-G8TMV> definitely coming down
[13:14] <GW8RAK> S7 and stable here futurity
[13:14] <futurity> freq check please
[13:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.651.16
[13:14] <GW8RAK> .65109
[13:15] <on5rz> 65120
[13:15] <G0MJW> But not a burst
[13:15] <x-f> another wave?
[13:15] <Darkside> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szCD7nGDDf4
[13:15] <kokey> heh, my girlfriend's folks live in Kibworth
[13:15] <on5rz> going up again
[13:16] <vk5gr> housten we have a floater :-)
[13:16] <Darkside> oh you're still up vk5gr :D
[13:16] <GW8RAK> need some trackers in central France
[13:16] <G0MJW> Might break its own record
[13:16] <vk5gr> had to watch this one - saw it climb and climb - wanted to see if it beat horus 15.5
[13:16] <Upu_2E0UPU> it has
[13:16] <Darkside> vk5gr: pff
[13:17] <Darkside> its well and truly beaten that
[13:17] <Darkside> this is going to make things a lot harder for us!
[13:17] <Darkside> also, this balloon is totally going through gravity waves
[13:17] <GW8RAK> Wasn't there a ZP balloon which got to 43Km?
[13:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> and up we go
[13:17] <vk5gr> anyway - pulling the plug now - 7am start to get ready to fly horus 23
[13:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> damn going to have to put the national anthem on repeat
[13:17] <kokey> there was one that went up to 53km but not latex
[13:17] <Darkside> this is going way higher than you'd expect from just buoyancy oscillations
[13:18] <cuddykid> there are ZP balloons available to buy that claim 50+km
[13:18] <SpeedEvil> Yow. 42km
[13:18] <Upu_2E0UPU> going to be me collecting it at this rate
[13:18] <G0MJW> Floating at 42km
[13:18] <Darkside> haha there it is
[13:18] <Darkside> gravity waves i tells ya!
[13:19] <jcoxon> thats a good range for F5CT
[13:19] <Darkside> up and down, up and down...
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[13:19] <kokey> this makes up nicely for the fact that my rtl-sdr attempts are just getting me white noise this morning
[13:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> signal
[13:20] <kokey> even funnier that it's right above my in-laws house breaking a record right now
[13:20] <GW8RAK> Is that with a tv stick kokey?
[13:20] <kokey> GW8RAK: yeah
[13:20] <G0MJW> Sorry - just noticed my client was offline
[13:20] <GW8RAK> Which one?
[13:20] <GW8RAK> Came across them this morning and want to play
[13:21] <kokey> GW8RAK: it's one with an FC0012 tuner... some lifeview notv thing
[13:21] <Darkside> kokey: ooh
[13:21] <Darkside> i have one of those too
[13:21] <Darkside> i was going to test it out tomorrow on our launch
[13:21] <navrac> reaking its own records!
[13:21] <GW8RAK> Thanks. Found one on ebay for 12.99
[13:21] <kokey> well I get white noise, so it's a good start
[13:21] <Darkside> lol
[13:22] <GW8RAK> Listen to it long enough and you'll hear Elvis
[13:22] <Darkside> i've been able to decode met bureau balloons using mine
[13:22] <kokey> this is while trying to do bbc FM radio stations
[13:23] <jcoxon> properly floating
[13:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> beats the altitude and then floats
[13:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> thats just chinese for lol
[13:23] <r2x0t> any float prediction?
[13:23] <kokey> I think someone should phone the leicester radio station in a bit
[13:23] <kokey> if it's going to fall in town
[13:23] <G0MJW> Oh - faded
[13:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> it won't land on Leicester
[13:24] <futurity> Decoding again, I'm so close and my aerial was level with the ground. Altitude so high it was above direction of 12 element yagi
[13:24] <cuddykid> Laurenceb: it's coming for you :P
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[13:24] <G0MJW> Just had to re-tune
[13:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> does keep fading
[13:25] <G0MJW> 42362!
[13:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=01b633063a62c0ed180200bf7b4a65651fa0848d
[13:26] <Darkside> this is getting ridiculous
[13:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> float
[13:26] <Darkside> burst dammit, i want to go to bed!
[13:26] <daveake> Happy days :)
[13:26] <Darkside> hey maybe fsphil-laptop can pick it up :P
[13:26] <daveake> Records ... beating the 'merkins ... keeping the Aussies away from their beauty sleep ...
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[13:27] <daveake> ... of Carlsberg made HABbing days :D
[13:27] <Darkside> daveake: we're launching tomorrow :P
[13:27] <daveake> You need sleep then!
[13:27] <x-f> looks like MONDO-no-number was found
[13:27] <jcoxon> and down again
[13:28] <daveake> Steve says "I'm a very pleased person" :)
[13:28] <jcoxon> daveake, a bet he is
[13:28] <jcoxon> taken a while
[13:28] <SpeedEvil> I wonder if in princple I could see XABEN1 with a telescope
[13:28] <daveake> Yep
[13:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> Chinese Rubber Best Rubber
[13:28] <jcoxon> congrats
[13:28] <daveake> I told him earlier I was very pleased that he's taken the record
[13:28] <Darkside> chinese rubber lasts longer than you do
[13:28] <SpeedEvil> It must be what - 4 degrees? I think I'd need to find a small hill
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[13:29] <jcoxon> up we go again
[13:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> we should be in for a speed record on decent too :)
[13:30] <SpeedEvil> That's a lot of receivers.
[13:30] <GW8RAK> Can hear it on the scanner with the telescopic whip aerial, indoors and away from windows
[13:30] <on5rz> getting weaker
[13:31] <G0MJW> Ups the record again
[13:31] <Upu_2E0UPU> signal is going red now on the water fall
[13:31] <Colin-G8TMV> 42.4
[13:32] <daveake> Steve is getting bored of breaking records now :p
[13:32] <G0MJW> Lot of hot air over cities
[13:32] <Darkside> i bet he sishes he had a pyro on it now :P
[13:32] <Darkside> daveake: or doesn't he want the payload back
[13:32] <GW8RAK> 5.7 degrees outside, brrrr
[13:33] <G0MJW> 13 degrees here.
[13:33] <daveake> We'll go chasing it but he's not bothered about getting it back
[13:33] <jcoxon> dial freq?
[13:33] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: XABEN-21 Breaks World Amateur Altitude record and doesn't seem to want to come back down still up there #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/191157251925487616]
[13:33] <GW8RAK> The penalty for a good radio takeoff location is lower temperatures
[13:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.651
[13:34] <griffonbot> @jamescoxon: RT @AnthonyStirk: XABEN-21 Breaks World Amateur Altitude record and doesn't seem to want to come back down still up there #ukhas [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/191157390375264258]
[13:34] <kokey> hope no one admits to having run an elaborate GPS spoofing effort today
[13:34] <griffonbot> @jimthree: RT @AnthonyStirk: XABEN-21 Breaks World Amateur Altitude record and doesn't seem to want to come back down still up there #ukhas [http://twitter.com/jimthree/status/191157539751206912]
[13:34] Action: Darkside has done that before
[13:35] <Darkside> sent a paylaod to 50km once >_>
[13:35] <r2x0t> go to bed already...
[13:35] <Darkside> lol
[13:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[13:35] <Darkside> r2x0t: yes mum
[13:36] <Darkside> also i'm in bed
[13:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> its only 23:00
[13:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> ish
[13:36] <Darkside> yeah i have another hour before i *really* need to be sleeping
[13:36] <daveake> and up she goes again
[13:36] <G0MJW> Getting very weak here.
[13:36] <cuddykid> whats the time there Darkside
[13:36] <jcoxon> i got bored so i've tuned into a GT
[13:37] <griffonbot> @rafvz: RT @AnthonyStirk: XABEN-21 Breaks World Amateur Altitude record and doesn't seem to want to come back down still up there #ukhas [http://twitter.com/rafvz/status/191158120804921344]
[13:37] <Darkside> cuddykid: 2307
[13:37] <daveake> Steve says the price of these neverbursts has just double ;-)
[13:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[13:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> Tell Steve 42.5km just isn't cricket
[13:37] <cuddykid> any news on the Mondos?
[13:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> looks like one has been recovered
[13:37] <Colin-G8TMV> 42.5 dead
[13:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> 42.5km on the ball
[13:38] <daveake> Steve would like to thank his wife, his dog ....
[13:38] <kokey> Steve's certainly offering a much safer alternative to durex
[13:38] <griffonbot> @rafvz: RT @AnthonyStirk: XABEN-21 Breaks World Amateur Altitude record and doesn't seem to want to come back down still up there #ukhas [http://twitter.com/rafvz/status/191158545117478913]
[13:38] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[13:39] <daveake> Steve says his (spare) bedroom smells like a Durex factory
[13:39] <cuddykid> lol
[13:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> I can imagine
[13:39] <SpeedEvil> Was Mondo recovered?
[13:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> We believe so SpeedEvil
[13:39] <SpeedEvil> :)
[13:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> 42506
[13:39] <cuddykid> nice landing in a field :)
[13:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> Steve make it burst pls
[13:40] <daveake> damn that was such a nice number
[13:40] <futurity> how long can latex balloons cope with this UV exposure?
[13:40] <SpeedEvil> 3 days
[13:40] <Upu_2E0UPU> well .. 5 hours till sunset ? :)
[13:40] <kokey> greenland here we come
[13:40] <cuddykid> we do need a super powerful laser
[13:40] <daveake> Have you all worked out now that the sudden influx of records is because I'm not at home manning my laser gun?
[13:40] <jcoxon> daveake, i though it was portable
[13:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> you do have the requiste pussy cats evil daveake
[13:41] <kokey> I think North Korea missed the balloon
[13:41] <x-f> now only less than hundred meters to beat the previous record by a kilometer
[13:41] <G0MJW> Hope there is not an ISS pass over this area soon..
[13:41] <r2x0t> you would need some serious powered laser at that altitude
[13:41] <kokey> actually
[13:41] <kokey> I think they couldn't even launch a missile this high
[13:41] <on5rz> rarther landing on Shetland isl.
[13:41] <r2x0t> this is about 2x the U2 altitude
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[13:41] <G0MJW> U2 - Vertigo?
[13:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> Hey Greg
[13:42] <on5rz> signal dropping
[13:42] <jcoxon> on5rz, whats your range?
[13:42] <futurity> on5rz: it did that to me, but it turned out that my aerial want's pointed up at an angle
[13:42] <futurity> it was too flat
[13:43] <JFS1> Hi Upu and everyone else - busy morning so joining a bit late.
[13:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> its ok
[13:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> XABEN1 is still up there
[13:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> and by up I mean UP
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[13:43] <r2x0t> any records for latext flight duration?
[13:43] <GW8RAK> Signal dropped a bit then
[13:44] <JFS1> Just been trying to get Xaben but is becoming a bit faint.
[13:44] <jcoxon> r2x0t, 3 days
[13:44] <r2x0t> that's long...
[13:44] <jcoxon> yeah crossed the US and the atlantic
[13:44] <jcoxon> landed in the Med
[13:44] <Upu_2E0UPU> it fades in and out sometimes JFS1
[13:44] <jcoxon> got a good signal on the Isle of Man GT
[13:45] <on5rz> trying to change polarisation without succes..
[13:45] <GW8RAK> 16 degrees above the horizon here
[13:45] <kokey> Upu's right, not going to land in Leicester
[13:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[13:45] <GW8RAK> 148km to my place
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[13:46] <kokey> is it an ntx2?
[13:46] <jcoxon> yes
[13:46] <kokey> but, they have a 500m range
[13:46] <kokey> ;-)
[13:46] <cuddykid> lol
[13:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> on5rz would disagree
[13:47] <Colin-G8TMV> pop?
[13:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> no
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[13:48] <Colin-G8TMV> hmm.. not sure what happened - the signal went crazy for a few secs
[13:49] <GW8RAK> Didn't hear anything here
[13:49] <jcoxon> hehe the lag from globaltuners means that the map updates before i complete my decoded string
[13:50] <G0MJW> 42552!
[13:50] <danielsaul> !lastlog Hwoyee
[13:50] <danielsaul> oops
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[13:51] <griffonbot> @adamcudworth: RT @AnthonyStirk: XABEN-21 Breaks World Amateur Altitude record and doesn't seem to want to come back down still up there #ukhas [http://twitter.com/adamcudworth/status/191161671941750785]
[13:51] <cuddykid> heading kind of my way
[13:52] <cuddykid> this is where a glider would come in handy to fly it back :P
[13:53] <cuddykid> or "guided parachute" ;)
[13:53] <kokey> google earth is putting this well into perspective for me
[13:54] <G4DPZ> heading my way :-)
[13:54] <cuddykid> see daveake is getting his speed on
[13:54] <griffonbot> @jamescoxon: XABEN-21 currently at 42552m floating. #ukhas #arhab on 434.651Mhz [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/191162615467225088]
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[13:55] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: RT @jamescoxon: XABEN-21 currently at 42552m floating. #ukhas #arhab on 434.651Mhz [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/191162793888722944]
[13:55] <Upu_2E0UPU> Twitter spam
[13:55] <jcoxon> mwhahah
[13:55] <jcoxon> eroomde, isn't here...
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[13:59] <jcoxon> its been floating for about an hour
[14:00] <G4DPZ> going up again
[14:00] <jonsowman> Upu_2E0UPU: hi, what's yp?
[14:01] <r2x0t> it's pretty stable
[14:01] <jcoxon> x-f, you on GT too
[14:02] <x-f> jcoxon, just wanted to hear it :)
[14:02] <cuddykid> anyone know why the tinyGPS sats() method doesn't work? - may be because all non essential NMEA strings are turned off, perhaps one that is turned off contains the sats info?
[14:02] <jcoxon> cuddykid, it give back sats till you've got a lock
[14:03] <cuddykid> jcoxon: oh I see :) - hmm, I'm pretty sure it displayed 0 throughout though, even before lock - I'll double check this afternoon :)
[14:05] <Upu_2E0UPU> hey jonsowman
[14:05] <Upu_2E0UPU> earlier I thought the tracker was misbehaving again with regards to names
[14:05] <Upu_2E0UPU> but seems its ok
[14:05] <jonsowman> okay
[14:05] <Upu_2E0UPU> sorry to bother you
[14:06] <Colin-G8TMV> Right - I have to go out so I'm going to take my radio offline
[14:06] <Colin-G8TMV> Congrats on all the records!
[14:07] <jonsowman> Upu_2E0UPU: not a problem :D
[14:07] <griffonbot> @jgrahamc: RT @jamescoxon: XABEN-21 currently at 42552m floating. #ukhas #arhab on 434.651Mhz [http://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/191165893286428673]
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[14:08] <jcoxon> big push up
[14:09] <on5rz> 42593 idd
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[14:11] <r2x0t> Max. Altitude: 42620 m
[14:12] <jdtanner> wow, i'm joining this party late...
[14:13] <jcoxon> hehe
[14:13] <jdtanner> If xaben1 swings north I'm happy to help retrieve
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[14:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> it will swing north if it bursts
[14:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> or should
[14:14] <jdtanner> ;) well&it might end up in the Peaks&which will be interesting
[14:15] <jonsowman> Upu_2E0UPU: rig control all working nicely, this cat cable is great
[14:15] <Upu_2E0UPU> your the man for the job :)
[14:15] <r2x0t> Peaks? meh... aiming for at least Belfast
[14:15] <jcoxon> signal is stronger now on GT
[14:15] <jdtanner> I'm not helping with Belfast :P
[14:15] <GW8RAK> North Wales somewhere
[14:15] <Rob_M0DTS> how long will battery last?!
[14:15] <jdtanner> (was this intentional?)
[14:15] <r2x0t> (no)
[14:16] <jdtanner> :)
[14:16] <jcoxon> Rob_M0DTS, xaben's usually last 10hrs or so
[14:16] <SpeedEvil> Is there any payload in this other than the tracker?
[14:16] <Rob_M0DTS> ah thats ok then ;-)
[14:18] <jcoxon> SpeedEvil, nope
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[14:20] <cuddykid> Hi Will :)
[14:20] <cuddykid> no luck with things yesterday?
[14:20] <WillDuckworth> hiya - saw jcoxon tweet for today. no joy yesterday :(
[14:21] <cuddykid> :(
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[14:21] <cuddykid> are you around on Monday or are you at work/
[14:21] <cuddykid> *?
[14:21] <F6AGV> hi all
[14:22] <jcoxon> hey F6AGV
[14:22] <F6AGV> all is OK with xaben ?
[14:22] <WillDuckworth> hey cuddykid - working unfortunately - do you need helium?
[14:23] <cuddykid> WillDuckworth: no probs - got helium yesterday so all covered :)
[14:23] <cuddykid> thanks though
[14:23] <F6AGV> how are you James
[14:23] <Rob_M0DTS> pop
[14:23] <F6AGV> BURST !!!
[14:23] <WillDuckworth> yep
[14:24] <Rob_M0DTS> $$$$$$XABEN1,892,14:23:38,52.71311,-1.87226,42435,0.0,0.0,0.00,0.00,New GPS state 5*72A8
[14:24] <Laurenceb> coming down
[14:24] <r2x0t> Max. Altitude: 42687 m << nice!
[14:24] <Laurenceb> looks like Litchfield
[14:24] <griffonbot> @richardburcher: RT @AnthonyStirk: XABEN-21 Breaks World Amateur Altitude record and doesn't seem to want to come back down still up there #ukhas [http://twitter.com/richardburcher/status/191170145165651968]
[14:25] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: Congratulations to Steve and XABEN for a new amateur balloon world record of 42687meters now coming back home #ukhas #arhab [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/191170432177672192]
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[14:26] <griffonbot> @PD3EM: RT @AnthonyStirk: Congratulations to Steve and XABEN for a new amateur balloon world record of 42687meters now coming back home #ukhas # ... [http://twitter.com/PD3EM/status/191170623869956096]
[14:27] <Laurenceb> over 1Km over the previous
[14:27] <x-f> second place now 1069 meters lower!
[14:28] <cuddykid> it'll be interesting to see where this lands
[14:28] <on5rz> 31774
[14:28] <fsphil-laptop> lol, it's still going?
[14:29] <r2x0t> going yes, but down
[14:29] <fsphil-laptop> ah ha
[14:29] <fsphil-laptop> ooh cool they got the record!!
[14:29] <fsphil-laptop> I had to leave just as it started floating
[14:29] <fsphil-laptop> 42.6km wow
[14:29] <r2x0t> very cool flight
[14:29] <fsphil-laptop> how's that even possible :)
[14:29] <fsphil-laptop> also, crap my alt record can't beat that :)
[14:30] <jcoxon> hi F6AGV i'm well
[14:30] <jcoxon> and yourself?
[14:31] <griffonbot> @fsphil: RT @AnthonyStirk: Congratulations to Steve and XABEN for a new amateur balloon world record of 42687meters now coming back home #ukhas # ... [http://twitter.com/fsphil/status/191171893464805378]
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[14:31] <kokey> it might break the tree record too
[14:32] <r2x0t> lol
[14:33] <kokey> blah all I can get out of my rtl lifeview thingie is white noise
[14:33] <kokey> I'm either doing something terribly wrong or it just doesn't want to tune
[14:36] <jcoxon> i'll update the wiki
[14:36] <on5rz> fun is almost over here - getting out of sight
[14:37] <griffonbot> @sv2403: RT @AnthonyStirk: Congratulations to Steve and XABEN for a new amateur balloon world record of 42687meters now coming back home #ukhas # ... [http://twitter.com/sv2403/status/191173236317360129]
[14:38] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: RT @AnthonyStirk: Congratulations to Steve and XABEN for a new amateur balloon world record of 42687meters now coming back home #ukhas # ... [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/191173528807161856]
[14:41] <on5rz> complete LOS - good luck hunting
[14:41] <jcoxon> on5rz, thanks for tracking
[14:41] <fsphil-laptop> there, caught up
[14:41] <fsphil-laptop> what a flight!
[14:42] <on5rz> first time and by the look of it a nice one ..
[14:42] <fsphil-laptop> still partially decoding here
[14:42] <fsphil-laptop> although weakening fast
[14:42] <jcoxon> on5rz, what was your longest range of decode?
[14:43] <jcoxon> might be able to add it to the records
[14:43] <on5rz> height 16.589 @52.755 -1.95793
[14:44] <fsphil-laptop> aand it's pretty much gone here now
[14:45] <on5rz> 432.7km bearing 112°
[14:45] <fsphil-laptop> I was really surprised when I came back into the room and heard rtty
[14:45] <fsphil-laptop> was thinking I'd better get the car ready :)
[14:46] <on5rz> fsphil-laptop snr something 1/2 ?
[14:46] <jcoxon> on5rz, 7th
[14:46] <fsphil-laptop> snr is -16dB here now :)
[14:46] <fsphil-laptop> it's on the waterfall but I can't hear it
[14:47] <on5rz> ;-) ! last decode here was at snr1
[14:47] <WillDuckworth> it's swinging around a bit now i think
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[14:47] <jcoxon> on5rz, http://ukhas.org.uk/general:uk_records?&#radio_range_10mw_300_baud
[14:47] <griffonbot> @TheArduinoGuy: RT @AnthonyStirk: Congratulations to Steve and XABEN for a new amateur balloon world record of 42687meters now coming back home #ukhas # ... [http://twitter.com/TheArduinoGuy/status/191175842938892288]
[14:47] <on5rz> the line on the tracker was right for my setup
[14:47] <fsphil-laptop> now, I think I need to attach a rocket to my launch
[14:48] <G4DPZ> s8 snr 19db :-)
[14:48] <on5rz> @jcoxon mhh. nice with this modest setup for a rookie..
[14:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> fsphil-laptop go for another record then
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[14:48] <Lunar_Lander> hello!
[14:48] <Lunar_Lander> I just checked spacenear and I don't believe my eyes
[14:48] <Lunar_Lander> new UK or even world altitude record?
[14:49] <Lunar_Lander> hydrogen?
[14:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yep
[14:49] <Lunar_Lander> wow
[14:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yep to newq record
[14:49] <Lunar_Lander> UK or also world?
[14:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> world
[14:49] <Lunar_Lander> YES!
[14:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> why didnt you track?
[14:50] <fsphil-laptop> this is a solar system record!
[14:50] <SpeedEvil> Get pure protium. You don't want any duterium in your H2.
[14:50] <fsphil-laptop> well if you don't count the big japanese balloons :)
[14:50] <fsphil-laptop> signal's gone now totally from the waterfall
[14:50] <Lunar_Lander> I was asleep, sorry
[14:50] <Lunar_Lander> but wait
[14:50] <fsphil-laptop> closing down dl-fldigi. awesome
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> arhab says CNSP-10 41619 m
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> mondo is like 70 m below
[14:51] <fsphil-laptop> only 41.6km? pah
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> but still
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> awesome
[14:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so?
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> it's still 2nd place :D
[14:51] <fsphil-laptop> you're missing the 42687m there Lunar_Lander ? :)
[14:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Xaben1 got to 42687
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> oh wait
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> there it is!!!
[14:51] <Lunar_Lander> YAY
[14:52] <fsphil-laptop> more than 1km higher
[14:52] <fsphil-laptop> after a bit of a tease
[14:52] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[14:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> chill Lunar, you need to sit down with a brew and wienerschnitzel :-)
[14:52] <fsphil-laptop> it got to within a few metres of the record, and started descending
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> xD yeah
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil-laptop, yeah and then went into the float?
[14:53] <fsphil-laptop> more of a wobble Lunar_Lander
[14:53] <fsphil-laptop> it sort of wobbled its way up to 42.6km
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[14:53] <fsphil-laptop> I guess that was from heating
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> did it burst or did steves cutdown actuate?
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[14:53] <fsphil-laptop> or stretch of the balloon
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[14:53] <fsphil-laptop> burst
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[14:53] <fsphil-laptop> there was no cutdown
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> I thought steven puts on on all the XABEN
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> *steve
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> sorry
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> cool! :)
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> you know what we would need?
[14:54] <fsphil-laptop> rockets
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> some really big testing runs on balloon rubber
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> like material testing
[14:55] <Lunar_Lander> to get tables and so on of its behaviour and properties
[14:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i think the test today pretty much said it, 2 ballons going +40
[14:55] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[14:55] <F6AGV> well touchdown in few moment for xaben payload ?
[14:56] <fsphil-laptop> be interesting to see if CNSP try to follow it up
[14:56] <Lunar_Lander> it pushed back the border of what is possible
[14:56] <Lunar_Lander> I just wonder what is the next practical maximum
[14:56] <Lunar_Lander> if I would be bold, I'd say 45 km
[14:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no one going to recover xaben1?
[14:57] <F6AGV> 42687 meters high congratulations is it a world record ?
[14:57] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[14:57] <kokey> Darkside: did your LV5T just work?
[14:57] <fsphil-laptop> it is indeed F6AGV
[14:57] <fsphil-laptop> for an amateur balloon flight
[14:58] <F6AGV> wouah fine job Steve
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[14:58] <F6AGV> bye see you later
[14:59] <Lunar_Lander> what was onboard, just GPS and radio?
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[15:00] <jcoxon> hey F6AGV , i was thinking of launching another pico tomorrow
[15:00] <jcoxon> it'll come towards france
[15:01] <F6AGV> Yes but to morrow I m not free
[15:01] <jcoxon> oh okay
[15:01] <jcoxon> not a problem
[15:01] <F6AGV> What is the landing zone ?
[15:02] <F6AGV> You have some predictions James ?
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[15:03] <Matt_soton> https://www.cosycave.co.uk/product.php?id_product=220 <back in stock
[15:04] <F6AGV> what is the touchdown time ?
[15:04] <r2x0t> Matt_soton: heh, yet another design
[15:04] <G4DPZ> lost lock on xaben, great day
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[15:05] <jcoxon> towards amiens
[15:05] <Matt_soton> anything rtl2832u & e4k will work right?
[15:06] <r2x0t> it should
[15:06] <F6AGV> OK, it's possible to go to Amiens in last part of afternoon for me !
[15:07] <F6AGV> Jet Stream is coming soon 16 april 12Z !
[15:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> some turn that speedometer of on daveake, so he can get there sooner :-)
[15:07] <Matt_soton> also being nice and big i can tap the e4k output should i be bothered to do somthing else iwht it
[15:07] <jcoxon> F6AGV, lets see what hte ground weather is like
[15:07] <jcoxon> if too much wind will postpone
[15:07] <jcoxon> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hysplitout/10368_trj001.gif
[15:08] <r2x0t> this is a good path
[15:08] <jcoxon> this will be another low altitude path
[15:08] <F6AGV> yes be carefull a strong wind for few days is coming
[15:08] <r2x0t> would help with tracking if it goes even further east
[15:08] <jcoxon> let me look at hte forecast
[15:09] <jcoxon> hmmmm 15mph on the ground
[15:09] <jcoxon> thats too much
[15:09] <jcoxon> lets postpone
[15:09] <r2x0t> :(
[15:09] <jcoxon> will launch another day when its better
[15:09] <F6AGV> My chase zone is LE TOUQUET and belgium border
[15:09] <jcoxon> the problem with this pico flights is that if they get damaged at they don't work well
[15:10] <F6AGV> Ah ?
[15:10] <Hibby> aye
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[15:10] <jcoxon> hmmmm
[15:11] <F6AGV> OK James let me a mail or msg on UKHAS list about that !
[15:11] <jcoxon> okay
[15:11] <jcoxon> lets see what the weather is like tomorrow morning
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[15:11] <jcoxon> i will email you if i do plan to launch
[15:12] <F6AGV> no problem to chase your pico this next week !
[15:12] <F6AGV> Yes exact
[15:13] <F6AGV> I have a record when XABEN burst was on
[15:14] <F6AGV> -40 m/s down !!!
[15:14] <Lunar_Lander> wow
[15:15] <F6AGV> it's possible for a payload to fall with -150 m/s speed !
[15:15] <fsphil-laptop> one of the mondo flights dropped at -60m/s didn't it?
[15:15] <F6AGV> Yes good !
[15:16] <F6AGV> receive is not good some QSB and Doppler !
[15:16] <fsphil-laptop> sorry, -90m/s
[15:17] <F6AGV> we have a sunny afternoon here no cloud, sky is blue !
[15:17] <Upu_2E0UPU> well that was a fun afternoon
[15:17] <F6AGV> Yes
[15:18] <Lunar_Lander> hi Upu_2E0UPU
[15:18] <F6AGV> very interesting operations with 3 balloons at the same moment, hard to copy
[15:18] <Upu_2E0UPU> hey lunar
[15:18] <Lunar_Lander> these were awesome flights
[15:18] <Lunar_Lander> I only came here after checking spacenear and seeing the numbers xD
[15:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> anyone submitted it to ARHAB ?
[15:19] Nick change: Upu_2E0UPU -> Upu
[15:19] <F6AGV> bye all balloon's fan gd evening
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[15:19] <Upu> bon soir
[15:20] <F6AGV> merci mon ami, au plaisir
[15:20] <Upu> :)
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[15:21] <Upu> in fairness MONDO also broke the record
[15:21] <Upu> but unless he has some onboard logging..
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[15:27] <Upu> Chase car about 4 miles away
[15:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and just about float :-)
[15:28] <Upu> :)
[15:31] <futurity> Hi, back. What was the final high? Does anyone know when it was?
[15:31] <Upu> 42687m
[15:31] <futurity> Fantastic
[15:32] <futurity> do you know what time it was? I'm interested to know if i tracker it while i was away
[15:32] <Hibby> been no sign of the lvl1 guys today, has there?
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[15:34] <fsphil-laptop> futurity, about 15:24
[15:34] <fsphil-laptop> BST
[15:35] <futurity> thnks
[15:36] <fsphil-laptop> dl-fldigi did a good job of tracking that one, I was away for most of it
[15:37] <r2x0t> chasecar tracking now
[15:37] <Laurenceb> needs the tracking to show the car
[15:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> looks like xaben just missed the radio tower
[15:37] <Laurenceb> on spacenear
[15:38] <r2x0t> it's near some horses...
[15:38] <Laurenceb> what radio tower?
[15:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lets hope they dont eat it :-)
[15:38] <r2x0t> horse damage would be novelty
[15:39] <futurity> so was that a new uk record today? Want to Facebook it, but i don't know the exact name of the record
[15:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Laurenceb theres a radio tower a few 100meters back, look at the track
[15:39] <x-f> futurity, it was a world record!
[15:39] <x-f> (amateur)
[15:40] <futurity> World record WOW. very cool
[15:41] <Upu> daves picked it up again
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[15:42] <Upu> where is the radio tower ?
[15:43] <r2x0t> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.72505,-1.9016&hl=en&ll=52.730266,-1.893204&spn=0.000765,0.001183&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=64.241198,77.519531&t=h&z=20
[15:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> to the right just south of A51
[15:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> in the gray field
[15:43] <Dan-K2VOL> Good morning Gentlemen
[15:43] <Dan-K2VOL> and ladies
[15:43] <Upu> hey Dan
[15:44] <r2x0t> also checked on streetview that Catmeadow Ln is private/closed
[15:44] <Upu> we are in you sky stealing your records
[15:44] <r2x0t> that's why they have to go other way
[15:44] <Upu> yep looks like they are going to have to ask for access
[15:44] <Dan-K2VOL> boy there's a lot of UK receivers today
[15:45] <Upu> that Dan is why this is a good place to send your payload
[15:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh its a power line, not a radio tower
[15:45] <Dan-K2VOL> hehe send me the radio upu!
[15:45] <Upu> its not done sorry
[15:45] <Dan-K2VOL> aww
[15:45] <Upu> was going to do PCB today
[15:45] <Upu> but been tracking all day
[15:46] <Upu> well good news
[15:46] <Upu> XABEN isn't in a tree
[15:46] <Upu> or a power line
[15:46] <Upu> as ground level at that location is 116meters and its at 114
[15:47] <Upu> I will send you one Dan as soon as its ready, even if its for next year
[15:47] <Dan-K2VOL> :-) the first two will be the only two zero pressure flights of white star
[15:47] <Upu> oh ok :)
[15:48] <Dan-K2VOL> We have reached the limit of manageability of massive group balloon projects here, and going to back off to smaller superpressure projects :-) It's gonna be a big fun flight or two though, glad you'll be on board
[15:49] <Upu> when is the practice ?
[15:49] <Dan-K2VOL> 1600 UTC today
[15:49] <Upu> 11 mins ?
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[15:49] <Upu> and how long does it normally take ?
[15:49] <Dan-K2VOL> Crew checkin and your setup and equipment checks will start then, Simulation starts at 1700 UTC from then
[15:50] <Dan-K2VOL> takes about 2 hours
[15:50] <Dan-K2VOL> pre-flight checklist takes about an hour and cruise procedures about an hour
[15:51] <Upu> not sure i'm going to be able to make all of it sorry can I just listen in ?
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[15:51] <Upu> lost track of time with everything going on today
[15:51] <Dan-K2VOL> If you can it would be best for you to try to participate a bit if you can, even if it's only for a bit here and there, there's a lot of systems to become familiar with
[15:52] <Upu> ok course
[15:52] <Upu> of course even
[15:52] <Dan-K2VOL> :-)
[15:52] <Upu> let me get some stuff sorted here
[15:52] <Laurenceb> was mondo recovered?
[15:52] <Upu> back soon
[15:52] <Dan-K2VOL> cool thanks
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[15:53] <Lunar_Lander> hello Dan-K2VOL
[15:53] <fsphil-laptop> I may listen in but there's no way I can stay up for the actual flight
[15:55] <Dan-K2VOL> well, the purpose of the training is so that people in other time zones can control it long after launch, when others here are sleeping or working
[15:55] <Dan-K2VOL> it's designed to fly for 72 hours
[15:55] <Dan-K2VOL> and needs hands-on uplink commands every half hour or so
[15:56] <danielsaul> Dan-K2VOL: Where's all the info?
[15:56] <danielsaul> Nevermind, found the email
[15:56] <Dan-K2VOL> awesome, will paste the link here in a sec
[15:59] <Dan-K2VOL> All who are interested in training for the White Star remote mission control team, here is the info: http://wiki.whitestarballoon.com/doku.php?id=missionoperations:remoteoperatorsintro
[15:59] <Dan-K2VOL> A training sim begins in exactly 1 hour. Begin setting up and testing your stuff now, we're on the VOIP mission control channel now
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[16:10] <daveake> Xaben recovered :)
[16:10] <Dan-K2VOL> beautiful!
[16:10] <Dan-K2VOL> very nice flight guys!
[16:10] <Dan-K2VOL> very nice
[16:10] <daveake> Sat in a field, at the end of a footpath
[16:10] <r2x0t> nice
[16:10] <number10> well done
[16:10] <jonsowman> nice one
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[16:11] <daveake> Interestingly, part of the balloon had detached and then enveloped the parachute
[16:11] <Elmar_PD3EM> great! Well done daveake !!
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[16:11] <daveake> So we had a lump of latex where it should be, and a completely separate and larger lump around the cbhute
[16:11] <r2x0t> must have been big boom up there
[16:11] <daveake> Believe this is why it sped up during descent and landed faster than it should have according to the earlier descent rate
[16:12] <daveake> Steve is one happy bunny :)
[16:12] <r2x0t> this was very cool flight
[16:13] <Lunar_Lander> hi daveake, that's cool :)!
[16:13] <daveake> I'm a happy bunny too ... a grand day out :)
[16:13] <Lunar_Lander> yay :)
[16:13] <daveake> And I'm very happy for Steve who deserves to have gotten this by now :)
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[16:17] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:17] <Dan-K2VOL> greetings Lunar_Lander
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> hi Dan-K2VOL
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> already started the Teamspeak but not connected yet :)
[16:18] <Dan-K2VOL> no problem, the sim starts at 1700, this hour is for making sure your setups work
[16:18] <Dan-K2VOL> and you know yours does :-)
[16:18] Nick change: WhiteStarMC-46 -> Zuph
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> yeah :)
[16:19] <Lunar_Lander> this time the wiki login worked btw
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[16:19] <Lunar_Lander> thanks to Zuph for that
[16:19] <Zuph> Good!
[16:20] <Laurenceb> was mondo recovered?
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[16:21] Nick change: daveake -> HappyRocketBoy
[16:21] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[16:21] <HappyRocketBoy> got it back ok
[16:22] <Laurenceb> :D
[16:22] <HappyRocketBoy> appart from the drive an ideal recovery
[16:22] <r2x0t> it's nice it floated and travelled all the distance... until you see gas prices :)
[16:23] <HappyRocketBoy> :-)
[16:24] <fsphil-laptop> congrats HappyRocketBoy :)
[16:24] <fsphil-laptop> you've just made my next flight a lot more difficult :)
[16:24] <HappyRocketBoy> twas good fun too
[16:25] <HappyRocketBoy> another mini adventure
[16:26] <fsphil-laptop> Dan-K2VOL, the vent server ts.kg4ymg.com?
[16:26] <Upu> yeah great news and well deserved Steve
[16:26] Nick change: cuddykid -> UnhappyCuddykid
[16:26] <Dan-K2VOL> Teamspeak
[16:26] <Dan-K2VOL> or ts.whitestarballoon.org
[16:26] <fsphil-laptop> ah
[16:26] <fsphil-laptop> that's why I can't connect :)
[16:26] <UnhappyCuddykid> apart from - very happy for Steve!
[16:27] <UnhappyCuddykid> congrats
[16:27] <Dan-K2VOL> Yes Cake for Steve :-)
[16:27] Nick change: UnhappyCuddykid -> cuddykid
[16:27] <Lunar_Lander> Dan-K2VOL, so the server has changed from last time?
[16:27] <Lunar_Lander> for the teamspeak settings
[16:27] <Dan-K2VOL> no, same server, there's two DNS entries for it
[16:27] <Zuph> Lunar_Lander, Nope
[16:27] <cuddykid> humongous probs here
[16:27] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[16:30] <fsphil-laptop> I've a ventrilo server setup if you ever want to use it
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[16:33] <number10> HappyRocketBoy: the drives gonna be bad with daveake at the wheel ;)
[16:34] <HappyRocketBoy> that man knows how to drive!
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[16:37] <fsphil-laptop> shame there's no teamspeak android client
[16:37] <Zuph> There is
[16:37] <fsphil-laptop> there's one but it seems to require the PC copy
[16:37] <Zuph> I see a standalone version in my market.
[16:37] <fsphil-laptop> what's it called Zuph? I didn't see it when I searched
[16:38] <Zuph> Teamspeak Client BETA
[16:38] <fsphil-laptop> Got Teamspeak Viewer, TS3 Remote and Mumble for Android Beta
[16:39] <Zuph> Weird
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[16:40] <schofieldau> anyway
[16:40] <schofieldau> to all of ProjectHorus
[16:40] <schofieldau> not sure who's online
[16:40] <schofieldau> best of luck
[16:40] <schofieldau> for tomorrow's launch
[16:41] <schofieldau> only person I know online Darkside: good luck for tomorrow's launch
[16:41] <schofieldau> hope I didn't wake you up
[16:41] <schofieldau> have fun/recover your payload :P I'll hopefully be watching from IRC early on
[16:41] <schofieldau> good luck mate
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[16:46] <fsphil-laptop> horus launches are always interesting
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[16:50] <Laurenceb> cuddykid: whats up?
[16:51] <cuddykid> massive cockup by TNT meaning the cameras are at the local depot but can't access them - no way of getting them before monday
[16:51] <Lunar_Lander> damn
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[16:52] <cuddykid> huge problem as bundled in were all the extra battery packs etc
[16:52] <Laurenceb> :-/
[16:53] <cuddykid> apparently there is absolutely no way for them to get them off the lorry
[16:53] <cuddykid> not even the security guard can
[16:53] <cuddykid> sounds ridiculous to me
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[16:58] <Lunar_Lander> Dan-K2VOL, start in 2 minutes?
[17:08] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[17:08] <Lunar_Lander> Helium enters a bar
[17:08] <Lunar_Lander> the barkeeper said "We don't serve noble gases"
[17:08] <Lunar_Lander> Helium doesn't react
[17:09] <cuddykid> does anyone have the diameter of go pro lens?
[17:09] <Dan-K2VOL> fsphil you hear audio?
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[17:17] <Hibby> I miss lvl1 :/
[17:19] <nibbler> has anybody yet tried some mechanical stabilisation when using a camera? all the videos i've seen so far suffer from quite intensive motion.
[17:20] <Zuph> Hibby: You're welcome to hitch a ride back :-p
[17:20] <Hibby> Zuph: i'm working on it, lol
[17:20] <Hibby> nibbler: reaction wheels could be good fun!
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[17:24] <nibbler> Hibby: indeed. imho there are two ways to solve it: attitude control, or multiple cameras/lenses to cover 360°/180° seamlessly and do postprocessing on the video material.
[17:32] <Hibby> nibbler: managing the attitude of the payload whilst keeping the weight down will be difficult
[17:32] <Hibby> we had a student group try aerodynamic methods, but obiously the atmosphere is too thin for that to beof any effect
[17:33] <Hibby> And we're not willing to use our reaction wheel design as it's in use in some cubesats and still owned by the uni
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[17:38] <nibbler> Hibby: thought so (weight)
[17:41] <nibbler> it's a challenge though :-) i wonder if it's practical to use accelerometers and servos.
[17:41] <Hibby> depends
[17:41] <Hibby> what would you use the servos for?
[17:41] <Hibby> would they have a fast enough response?
[17:42] <Hibby> reaction wheels work well because of newton's third and the gyroscopic effect
[17:42] <cuddykid> not with an arduino :P
[17:43] <Lunar_Lander> euroarduino
[17:43] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[17:43] <Lunar_Lander> cause it's made in europe
[17:43] <Hibby> use a proper microcontroller, then
[17:43] <Hibby> :p
[17:47] <Zuph> Proper AMERKAN microcontroller, like a 68HC11.
[17:48] <fsphil-laptop> 68000 baby
[17:48] <fsphil-laptop> 32-bit instructions on a 16-bit processor :)
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[17:50] <Morseman> Just got home but no decodes on 434.650 here
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[17:57] <Elmar_PD3EM> Morseman: it was abt 2 kc up so might have been just above your waterfall....
[17:57] <griffonbot> Received email: David Bowkis "Re: [UKHAS] XABEN-24 Launch Announcement Saturday 14/04/2012"
[18:04] <griffonbot> @adamcudworth: TNT have managed to really mess us about for #HABE launch on monday - massive logistics problems #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/adamcudworth/status/191225547622318080]
[18:06] <Hibby> Zuph: why not use one that's so 'merkin there's even a state in the company name!
[18:06] <Hibby> TEXAS Instruments MSP430 ;)
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[18:09] <Hibby> You know what I miss? Wendy's.
[18:09] <Hibby> and chick-fil-a
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[18:14] <Zuph> Hibby: too new
[18:15] <Zuph> Hibby: your waistline doesn't miss them, I'm sure :-p
[18:16] <Hibby> Dunno, just means more kfc/macdo/bk, really.
[18:16] <Zuph> hah
[18:17] <Hibby> tbh, i'm happy with the classic glasgow chippy.
[18:17] <Hibby> my favourite is a deep fried pizza, in batter, and chips
[18:17] <Zuph> Of all the restaurants to miss...
[18:17] <Hibby> known as a pizza crunch supper.
[18:17] <Zuph> I'd miss the Mexican food most, I think.
[18:18] <Hibby> was never a big part of my diet, and we've got a couple of brilliant mexicans in the city
[18:18] <Lunar_Lander> Zuph, do you overhear the teamspeak?
[18:18] <Zuph> I was afk for a few minutes
[18:18] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:18] <Lunar_Lander> did you hear that Upu's virusscanner complained about the command uplink page?
[18:18] <Zuph> Yes
[18:19] <Zuph> Not my app, thankfully
[18:19] <Zuph> :-p
[18:19] <Morseman> Elmar_PD3EM that could explain it then
[18:20] <Zuph> Hibby: I don't believe it. Good Mexican in Scotland?
[18:20] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:21] <Lunar_Lander> Zuph, do I need to be scared?
[18:21] <Zuph> Nah, you should be more scared of my apps :-p
[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> xD the one that shouted at me?
[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> "cleared your data, fool" it said
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[18:23] <Zuph> haha yes
[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> hi Astrobiol
[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> Zuph, don't say that installed something...
[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[18:24] <Astrobiol> Hi all. So what's the news about Steve's altitude record?
[18:24] <fsphil-laptop> was recovered, steve very chuffed :)
[18:25] <Astrobiol> How high?
[18:25] <fsphil-laptop> 42.6km
[18:25] <fsphil-laptop> over a km higher than the last record
[18:25] <Lunar_Lander> Astrobiol, are you the Oliver?
[18:26] <Lunar_Lander> from the google group and so on
[18:26] <Astrobiol> So 140K ft! What is needed for it to be a verified record?
[18:27] <Astrobiol> That is I, Lunar_ . I've never been "The" anything though
[18:27] <fsphil-laptop> the arhab website needs prior notification of the launch (which was given) and for the telemetry to be received by a certain number of stations
[18:27] <Lunar_Lander> oh sorry Astrobiol
[18:27] <Lunar_Lander> do you remember me maybe? I am Kevin from Germany
[18:27] <Lunar_Lander> and I wrote you last year
[18:27] <Upu> not any more fsphil
[18:28] <fsphil-laptop> ooh they changed that after the nonsense before didn't they
[18:28] <Astrobiol> It's not an insult, I was flattered :-) Like being called "The" Queen :-) Steve has the hound's particulars tonight then I guess
[18:28] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[18:28] <Lunar_Lander> The Steve
[18:28] <fsphil-laptop> who the man
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[18:29] <fsphil-laptop> was an amazing day. two launches that just nearly got there, and another one that looked like it floated about 7m below it the record
[18:29] <Astrobiol> Hi Kevin. I think I still have your email in my bag! How are you doing? I am still struggling to refly anything, thinking about solar balloons with sterile coatings
[18:30] <fsphil-laptop> actually the mondo flight did beat the record but didn't finish the telemetry string in time
[18:30] <Astrobiol> 7m??? Literally 700cm? Boy somebody must have been p*ssed
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[18:30] <fsphil-laptop> it started descending about 7m below the record .. but it came back up again
[18:30] <Lunar_Lander> Astrobiol, I am doing well, maybe I will finally be ready to fly a very simple balloon with just GPS and radio soon
[18:30] <fsphil-laptop> and then went a further km
[18:31] <fsphil-laptop> just very very slowly
[18:32] <Astrobiol> Hehe, a bit of a 700cm latex teaser that one!
[18:32] <fsphil-laptop> I was away for an hour after it started floating and it was still being received then I got home
[18:32] <fsphil-laptop> then/when
[18:33] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[18:33] <fsphil-laptop> it's going to be really difficult beating that
[18:33] <Astrobiol> Lunar_/Kevin let's keep in touch! I'm on IRC now and again now. I also picked up a bargain satphone on eBay which might be useful for chases
[18:34] <Lunar_Lander> Astrobiol, cool!
[18:38] <Astrobiol> Let's see if it connects first, GlobalStar said they'd register it on Monday
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[18:43] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[18:43] <Lunar_Lander> is it expensive Astrobiol ?
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[18:53] <Astrobiol> 78 GBP
[18:54] <Morseman> Sorry that I missed the launches today - was visiting family
[19:00] <Astrobiol> Gotta split guys, catch you later
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[19:24] <futurity> Bye chaps, time to go chill out. thanks for the exciting balloon tracking Steve if you are around
[19:24] <Lunar_Lander> cu futurity
[19:24] <futurity> cu all
[19:24] <futurity> ttfn
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[19:35] <Lunar_Lander_> sorry
[19:35] <Lunar_Lander_> back
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[19:49] <daveake> Ah, home :)
[19:49] <fsphil> wb RocketDave!
[19:50] <daveake> I was out all day ... anything interesting happen in HAB today?
[19:50] <fsphil> oh nothing much
[19:50] <daveake> :p
[19:50] <daveake> My altitude WooWoo (TM Upu) obviously worked ;)
[19:50] <Upu> :)
[19:50] <Upu> TM eroomde actually
[19:50] <Upu> back home ?
[19:50] <daveake> true
[19:50] <daveake> yep
[19:51] <daveake> just got back a couple of mins ago
[19:51] <Upu> long day
[19:51] <daveake> very
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[19:51] <Upu> sucessful day though
[19:51] <daveake> 14 hours
[19:51] <daveake> very
[19:51] <daveake> Great day
[19:52] <daveake> How many minutes did Michael hold the UK record for? :p
[19:52] <Upu> not many
[19:53] <daveake> I did a time lapse of the inflation, and have photos of the launch, Steve's happy face, and the recover
[19:53] <daveake> y
[19:53] <Upu> I'd have a break from balloons stuff :)
[19:54] <jdtanner> Sounds like you need a beer!
[19:54] <daveake> good idea :)
[19:54] <jdtanner> or 2
[19:54] <jdtanner> ;)
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[19:58] <fsphil> now please don't go beating that record until at least I have a go
[20:00] <daveake> :)
[20:00] <fsphil> no reaction on the GPSL list
[20:00] <daveake> I did come back with one of Steve's neverburst-1600's :)
[20:00] <jcoxon> did my email go through about it?
[20:00] <fsphil> it did
[20:01] <Upu> yep
[20:01] <fsphil> I may need to get another one, incase this old one is too old
[20:01] <Upu> might be worth following it up with a confirmation of the final altitude
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[20:01] <daveake> Has RocketBoy been on since he got home (would have been an hour or so ago)?
[20:01] <fsphil> last seen using your client
[20:02] <daveake> ah ok
[20:02] <daveake> He did post as me a handful of times earlier when he forgot to /nick
[20:02] <fsphil> I loved the drama of today. they all got really close and then looked like they where just about to turn around
[20:03] <Upu> the 1meter from the record was just epic
[20:03] <Upu> never a dull moment in HAB
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[20:04] <daveake> We were sat at a services as the record approached. For some reason (possibly local noise) we signal got really poor so I was hanging a yagi out of the window for a while
[20:04] <fsphil> the signal going up was really choppy, I thought it burst a couple of times
[20:04] <fsphil> but it was just spinning
[20:04] <daveake> yeah
[20:04] <Upu> Mondo's transmitters aren't great
[20:05] <Upu> not as good as an NTX2 anyway
[20:05] <fsphil> yea they need a better radio
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[20:05] <daveake> I'll upload photos and a time-lapse video tomorrow
[20:06] <daveake> Recovery was sooooo easy ... a short footpath with a field at the end, and some large lumps of white latex in the field :)
[20:06] <fsphil> what a coincidence!
[20:06] <daveake> lol
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[20:21] <griffonbot> Received email: "Re: [UKHAS] XABEN-24 Launch Announcement Saturday 14/04/2012"
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander_> xD daveake
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[20:31] Nick change: evilElwell -> Elwell
[20:32] <tstowe> has aneyone ever tried using an airframe from a rocket for a payload?
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander_> Upu, still here?
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[20:33] <r2x0t> tstowe: probably too heavy
[20:33] <Upu> about yes Lunar_Lander_
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander_> ah
[20:34] <Upu> sorta
[20:34] <tstowe> a 3.9 inch tube 18 inches long is under a pound.
[20:34] <r2x0t> usual payload is styrofoam box with bunch of stuff in it... very light
[20:34] <r2x0t> sturdy enough for this use
[20:35] <tstowe> true...but the airframe would be cool.
[20:35] <tstowe> and reusable
[20:37] <tstowe> an 18 inch tube would actually be just under 12 ounches.
[20:41] <tstowe> There are a lot of trees in our area and I was thinking something like this might have a better chance of going through the branches and reaching the ground.
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[20:55] <jdtanner> tstowe: poly boxes are surprisingly durable
[20:55] <navrac> I wonder how much a toilet roll weighs
[20:55] <jdtanner> used?
[20:55] <jdtanner> :P
[20:55] <navrac> err
[20:56] <jdtanner> as in just the tube ?
[20:56] <jdtanner> :)
[20:56] <navrac> yep
[20:56] <jdtanner> a gram?
[20:56] <jdtanner> nothing
[20:56] <jdtanner> Would you like me to check :)
[20:57] <navrac> no its ok
[20:57] <navrac> just looking for a new outer housing. The last one got a bit beat up
[20:57] <jdtanner> 5g
[20:57] <jdtanner> :)
[20:58] <navrac> wow - far too much!
[20:58] <jdtanner> our dog chews them like a bone
[20:58] <jdtanner> so we've got loads :) of course&5g might be the smallest accurate weight my scales go to
[20:58] <navrac> polystyrene is a bit heavy- so i was thinking of what else i could use
[20:59] <jdtanner> well&cheap loo roll has worse cardboard tubes
[20:59] <jdtanner> i.e. thinne
[20:59] <jdtanner> r
[21:00] <jdtanner> sounds a bit daft, but what about an origami box?
[21:00] <jdtanner> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2374322/make_a_strong_paper_box/
[21:00] <navrac> I think the solar cells really need to be horizontal- I was thinking of folding them round s loo roll
[21:03] <jdtanner> you could use waterproof paper
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[21:05] <navrac> it would take me longer to make a box than it would to build all the electronics again
[21:05] <jdtanner> haha
[21:06] <navrac> I reckon I'd need a ream of paper till i got one that worked
[21:07] <jdtanner> I might make one&looks cool :)
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[21:36] <Darkside> ok guys, clearing tracker
[21:38] <Upu> don't want to let Steve takes some screen shots ?
[21:38] <Darkside> i've left xaben up
[21:38] <Upu> ok
[21:38] <Upu> when are you launching ?
[21:38] <Darkside> 2.5 hours
[21:38] <Upu> good luck
[21:42] <Randomskk> Darkside: gonna beat the record? ;D
[21:42] <jdtanner> :)
[21:42] <Darkside> not today
[21:43] <Upu> the bar has been set awfully high no pun intended
[21:44] <Randomskk> what was on/what balloon xaben?
[21:45] <Darkside> Randomskk: guess
[21:46] <Randomskk> dunno, 1600? 2000? hwoyee I assume? minimal payload? hardly pico though?
[21:47] <Darkside> 1600g hwoyee
[21:47] <Upu> 1600g Hwoyee with H2
[21:48] <Randomskk> ah was about to ask h2/he
[21:48] <Randomskk> cool
[21:48] <Upu> Steves payloads aren't that heavy
[21:48] <Upu> he used the regulator Dave and I bought
[21:48] <Upu> So break out your 2000g and H2 if you want a stab at that
[21:48] <Upu> record
[21:49] <Randomskk> heh
[21:49] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "Re: [UKHAS] XABEN-24 Launch Announcement Saturday 14/04/2012"
[21:49] <Randomskk> what was the ascent rate?
[21:49] <Upu> typical H2 started slow
[21:50] <Upu> and builtup about 4.5 to 5.5 at the end I think
[21:50] <Randomskk> huh, I didn't realise the h2 was typically not a constant ascent
[21:50] <Upu> be interested to see the data when Steve posts it
[21:50] <Upu> yeah its a bit all over the place
[21:50] <Randomskk> all on habitat if you want I guess
[21:50] <Upu> was on our H2 launches too
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[21:52] <Upu> but
[21:52] <Upu> bear in mind
[21:52] <Upu> Mondo using He and same balloons was <1km behind it
[21:53] <Randomskk> yea, possibly just the difference ;p
[21:53] <Upu> Mondo probably got the world record too , it was transmitting just as the balloon burst and it was over it
[21:53] <Randomskk> wow talk about excellent rx coverage
[21:53] <Upu> but string didn't complete
[21:53] <Randomskk> aww
[21:54] <Randomskk> feels so recently that we set the uk one at 36km
[21:54] <Randomskk> jeez
[21:54] <Randomskk> :P
[21:55] <Upu> there was alot of receivers and well coordinated by jcoxon
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[21:57] <Upu> I mailed Mick as MONDO may have had a camera too
[22:05] <Randomskk> https://randomskk.net/u/xaben_ar.png
[22:06] <Randomskk> definitely appears to go up
[22:06] <Randomskk> how weird
[22:06] <Randomskk> a lot of noise too (though that's possibly quantisation error)
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[22:09] <Upu> check the cloud/ava launch as a comparison
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[22:12] <Upu> or check MONDO would be better thats 1600g He
[22:18] <Randomskk> odd
[22:18] <Randomskk> mondo does something very similar
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[22:20] <Randomskk> https://randomskk.net/u/xaben_mondo_rates.png
[22:20] <Randomskk> not quite as pronounced perhaps
[22:20] <RocketBoy> recovery pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/16828840@N07/
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[22:23] <Upu> hey Steve
[22:23] <Upu> good effort today
[22:23] <Upu> do you know if Mick got his payloads back ?
[22:24] <Upu> looks like XABEN brought most of the balloon back
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[22:25] <griffonbot> Received email: Steve Aerospace "[UKHAS] XABEN-24"
[22:25] <Upu> btw good effort on soldering that BMP085 to a ribbon cable :)
[22:26] <Colin-G8TMV> BMP085 ?
[22:26] <Upu> pressure sensor
[22:26] <Colin-G8TMV> Ah, ta
[22:26] <Upu> btw RocketBoy if you want screen shots take them soon Darkside is launching shortly
[22:27] <RocketBoy> ooo cheers for that I'll take some
[22:27] <Colin-G8TMV> did Mondo drill a hole in the ground with that high descent rate?
[22:28] <Darkside> http://www.flickr.com/photos/16828840@N07/6826128235/in/photostream
[22:28] <Darkside> he's mad
[22:28] <Darkside> mad i sell you
[22:28] <Darkside> tell*
[22:28] <Darkside> oh hi RocketBoy :P
[22:28] <RocketBoy> :o)
[22:29] <Darkside> RocketBoy: i'll leave XABEN up for another hour or so
[22:29] <Darkside> then i'll have to wipe it
[22:29] <RocketBoy> cheers - I should be done by then
[22:29] <Darkside> cool
[22:29] <Darkside> we're launching in about 2 hours
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[22:36] <Lunar_Lander_> hey RocketBoy !!!
[22:36] <Lunar_Lander_> CONGRATULATIONS
[22:37] <RocketBoy> cheers LL
[22:37] <Lunar_Lander_> that is awesome
[22:37] <Lunar_Lander_> did you register with ARHAB?
[22:37] <RocketBoy> yes
[22:37] <Lunar_Lander_> YAY
[22:38] <RocketBoy> hope so
[22:38] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[22:38] <Lunar_Lander_> what did you do the moment you crossed 41.6 km?
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[22:40] <RocketBoy> mostly just trying to will it higher
[22:41] <Upu> did that alright
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[22:41] <Lunar_Lander_> yeah
[22:41] <jcoxon> hey RocketBoy
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander_> where did you track the flight? were you driving after it?
[22:42] <RocketBoy> hey jcoxon - i hear you did a good job of co-ordinating today - thanks
[22:42] <jcoxon> haha, i think 4 payloads is the limit
[22:42] <RocketBoy> Lunar_Lander_: yes Daveake was driving
[22:42] <jcoxon> congrats on the record - about time
[22:43] <RocketBoy> I was navigating/tracking
[22:43] <jcoxon> have you emailed arhab yet?
[22:43] <RocketBoy> na not yet
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander_> RocketBoy, so you could cheer? :)
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[22:43] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, that little float before breaking the record was pretty tense
[22:43] <jcoxon> considering how close mondo got (well it broke it but we don't have enough data :-( )
[22:44] <RocketBoy> yeah I know - was strange
[22:44] <RocketBoy> it sort of went down 7m under the record IIRC
[22:45] <RocketBoy> then back up again - phew
[22:45] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[22:45] <Lunar_Lander_> what did you think when it burst?
[22:45] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, i think you broke it rather well though
[22:46] <jcoxon> going to be difficult for someone to match
[22:46] <RocketBoy> yes - I thought so too
[22:46] <RocketBoy> ;-)
[22:46] <Lunar_Lander_> :)
[22:46] <Lunar_Lander_> did the radio play chariots on fire on burst?
[22:46] <Lunar_Lander_> xD
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander_> wait
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander_> chariots of fire
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander_> xD
[22:47] <Darkside> naw, it played the UK national anthem
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander_> YAY
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[22:57] <RocketBoy> nights!
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[22:58] <RocketBoy> darkside: forgot to say - I'm done - cheers its all yours
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[22:59] <Darkside> ok
[22:59] <Darkside> thanks
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[22:59] <vk5gr> morning darkside
[22:59] <Darkside> hey vk5gr
[22:59] <Darkside> i'm still waiting for adrian
[22:59] <vk5gr> just left st georges backery
[23:00] <Darkside> they sell backs?
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[23:00] <Darkside> vk5gr: do you know who VK5AKH is?
[23:01] <vk5gr> no
[23:02] <Darkside> hmm
[23:02] <Darkside> it looksl ike he's going to be chasing
[23:02] <vk5gr> why?
[23:02] <vk5gr> interesting
[23:03] <Darkside> ok adrian is leaving in 15
[23:03] <vk5gr> no probs
[23:03] <Darkside> vk5gr: terry is VZI
[23:03] <Darkside> not VKI
[23:03] <vk5gr> i know that just had a momentary brain fade :-)
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[23:05] <Darkside> vk5gr: can you get chasetracker running please
[23:05] <jcoxon> Darkside, how long till launch?
[23:05] <Darkside> just so we have more than one chase car on the map
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander_> oh he left
[23:05] <Darkside> jcoxon: probably 2 hours away still
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander_> hello Darkside , jcoxon , vk5gr
[23:05] <jcoxon> cool cool
[23:05] <jcoxon> and is this channel expecting additional traffic?
[23:05] <Darkside> ye
[23:05] <Darkside> yes
[23:05] <vk5gr> morning all
[23:05] <vk5gr> horus 23 this morning
[23:06] <vk5gr> ok
[23:06] <vk5gr> gettibng chase tracker up
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[23:06] <Darkside> cool
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[23:08] <jcoxon> VK5FMJP is in the sea
[23:09] <vk5gr> system's up now here darkide
[23:09] <Darkside> vk5gr: thanks
[23:09] <Darkside> jcoxon: yeah lol
[23:09] <Darkside> using a boat obviously
[23:09] <Darkside> chaseboat!
[23:10] <vk5gr> going to be a busy day here i think - lot of amateurs going to be watching i think
[23:10] <Darkside> yup
[23:10] <vk5gr> corrected terry's call on vklogger too
[23:10] <Darkside> cool
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[23:11] <zindello> Morning all :)
[23:11] <Darkside> morning VK3XJM :-)
[23:11] <zindello> Heh
[23:12] <zindello> So my IGate is up and running, so we'll see how we go once you hit altitude
[23:12] <Darkside> cool
[23:12] <zindello> I'd imagine with the amount of power you'll be running on ARPS I should hear a few packets
[23:12] <Darkside> it probably won't shoe up on aprs.fi though
[23:12] <zindello> Yeah
[23:12] <Darkside> just tail -f the logs
[23:12] <Darkside> and grep for VK5ARG
[23:12] <zindello> Depends who's gate gets it into the network first :P
[23:12] <Darkside> yeah, it won't be yours :P
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[23:13] <zindello> Guess I should connect my L2TP to home then hey?
[23:13] <Darkside> L2TP?
[23:13] <zindello> VPN
[23:13] <Darkside> oh
[23:13] <Darkside> maybe
[23:13] <zindello> It's kinda overkill, but I use IPSec/L2TP to VPN to home
[23:13] <Darkside> 600km = 2mS additional delay
[23:18] <zindello> Heh
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[23:18] <zindello> So i'm tailing my logs now
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[23:20] <zindello> Who's car are you in Mark?
[23:20] <Darkside> none of the ones appearing on teh tracker
[23:20] <Darkside> and i'm nit in a car yet
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[23:21] <Darkside> you'll know which car I'm in once i have the software running
[23:21] <zindello> Heh, fair enough
[23:21] <zindello> Terry?
[23:21] <Darkside> no
[23:21] <vk5gr> where is he?
[23:21] <Darkside> i'm going to be in the landcruiser today
[23:21] <Darkside> terry is on his way
[23:21] <Darkside> he's on teh freeway somewhere
[23:21] <zindello> Cool
[23:21] <vk5gr> we are at the bp in barker
[23:21] <vk5gr> zsn?
[23:22] <Darkside> zsn still not left yet...
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[23:22] <zindello> Heh I tell ya what
[23:22] <vk5gr> where is your payload? with you?
[23:22] <Darkside> you guys will have to get the balloon train ready
[23:22] <zindello> You really don't appreciate the basic things in life until you're not able to do them ..
[23:22] <Darkside> i have the telemetry and the cutdown payloads
[23:22] <vk5gr> thats a given
[23:23] <Darkside> vk5gr: you'll have to get terry to stsrt filling and setting up the balloon train, ready to hook up the payloads
[23:23] <vk5gr> have you had contact with him yet?
[23:23] <Darkside> yes i've had contact with ZSN
[23:23] <vk5gr> that was the plan
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[23:24] <Darkside> VK5AKH is definitely on the move
[23:24] <Darkside> looks like he's coming along for the chase
[23:25] <Darkside> dunno where we'll meet him
[23:25] <vk5gr> guess he got chasetracker from someone?
[23:25] <Darkside> no, he's using the inbuilt stuff in dl-fldigi
[23:25] <vk5gr> ahh ok
[23:25] <Darkside> oh god no
[23:26] <zindello> chasetracker?
[23:26] <Darkside> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[23:26] <Darkside> SOMEONE KILL ITTTTTT
[23:26] <Darkside> KILL IT WITH FIRE
[23:26] <zindello> Err ??
[23:26] <Darkside> the IRLP just activated
[23:26] <Darkside> DO NOT WANT
[23:26] <zindello> Lol
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[23:26] <zindello> That really sucks
[23:26] <Darkside> lol its someone in geelong
[23:27] <zindello> Who?
[23:27] <zindello> What node number?
[23:27] <Darkside> 6214
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[23:28] <Laurenceb_> arggg
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[23:28] <zindello> Bummer
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[23:29] <tstowe_> i did?
[23:29] <zindello> Tell you what
[23:30] <zindello> I have to say, that hospital food really isn't all that bad on the whole
[23:30] <zindello> Just - stay away from the soup.
[23:30] <griffonbot> @zindello: RT @darksidelemm: http://t.co/hn716pPb Chase truck all ready to go! #projecthorus #arhab [http://twitter.com/zindello/status/191307589626249216]
[23:31] <griffonbot> @zindello: RT @amradvictoria: Project Horus Balloon Launch http://t.co/vf8J3dZq #vk #projecthorus #hamradio [http://twitter.com/zindello/status/191307703069585408]
[23:34] <griffonbot> @vk5gr: RT @amradvictoria: Project Horus Balloon Launch http://t.co/vf8J3dZq #vk #projecthorus #hamradio [http://twitter.com/vk5gr/status/191308427862093826]
[23:36] <griffonbot> @vk5gr: @ProjectHorus Balloon Launch Today with amateur radio payloads #vk #projecthorus #hab http://t.co/eRQNi3in 438.9 123Hz CTCSS Up 144.65 down [http://twitter.com/vk5gr/status/191308876661002240]
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[23:36] <schofieldau> morning all
[23:37] <griffonbot> @zindello: RT @vk5gr: @ProjectHorus Balloon Launch Today with amateur radio payloads #vk #projecthorus #hab http://t.co/eRQNi3in 438.9 123Hz CTCSS ... [http://twitter.com/zindello/status/191309128759640064]
[23:37] <tstowe_> morning? it's 7:30 PM here. :)
[23:38] <zindello> No, it's morning here, 9:38am :)
[23:38] <Darkside> 9:38AM? Its 9:08AM!
[23:38] <zindello> Well
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[23:38] <zindello> I am in Vic you know :P
[23:39] <zindello> So it looks like I might just make it to Mt G this year
[23:39] <Darkside> i won't be there
[23:39] <zindello> I know
[23:39] <zindello> But I will be :)
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[23:39] <zindello> Guess that just means that we'll have to whip your butts next year then :P
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[23:40] <zindello> Although we're going to try and get to Urunga next year as well
[23:41] <vk3evl> is a predicted path available online for todays launch?
[23:41] <Darkside> vk3evl: hold
[23:42] <Darkside> http://projecthorus.org/predict/#!/uuid=103f6f08b8469dff7f2a7c424c5596c46c84d8fd
[23:43] <vk3evl> thankyou
[23:44] <zindello> Hopefully you don't get stuck at the Ferry again :P
[23:44] <Darkside> ok.. here's something i'd never thought i'd do...
[23:44] <zindello> ?
[23:44] <Darkside> oh wait
[23:44] <Darkside> nvm
[23:44] <zindello> .... ?
[23:44] Nick change: Darkside -> Darkside_VK5QI
[23:44] <Darkside_VK5QI> there we go
[23:45] <Darkside_VK5QI> showing my colours :-)
[23:45] <zindello> Lol
[23:45] <Darkside_VK5QI> also because i'm going to be showing up on the tracker shortly
[23:45] <vk3evl> i'm going to try and receive the RTTY although i wont get it until later in the flight (eastern side of melbourne)
[23:46] <Darkside_VK5QI> ok vk3evl
[23:46] <Darkside_VK5QI> allright, i
[23:46] <Darkside_VK5QI> i'm packing up
[23:46] <Darkside_VK5QI> will eb once once i'm moving
[23:46] <vk3evl> good luck with todays flight
[23:48] <tstowe_> what altitude are you expecting?
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[23:52] <schofieldau> definitely just misread Parkside as Darkside on the map
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[23:57] <Darkside_VK5QI> ok
[23:57] <Darkside_VK5QI> in the truck and moving
[23:59] <zindello> You guys launching from the same place as last time?
[23:59] <Darkside_VK5QI> yup
[23:59] <zindello> Cool
[23:59] <Darkside_VK5QI> where the red car is
[23:59] <zindello> You need to run HF telemetry again sometime, so I can RX you at home
[23:59] <zindello> easily
[23:59] <zindello> :P
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