highaltitude.log.20120212

[00:03] <Laurenceb_> http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?zoom=4&rad=0&wxsn=0&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=1&mm.mdl=GFS&mm.type=SURPRE&mm.hour=0&mm.opa=100&mm.clk=0&hur=0&fire=0&tor=0&ndfd=0&pix=0&dir=0&ads=0&tfk=0&fodors=0&ski=0&ls=0&rad2=0
[00:05] <Laurenceb_> sunset now
[00:07] <MLow-werk> http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?zoom=4&rad=0&wxsn=0&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=1&mm.mdl=GFS&mm.type=SURPRE&mm.hour=0&mm.opa=100&mm.clk=0&hur=0&fire=0&tor=0&ndfd=0&pix=0&dir=0&ads=0&tfk=0&fodors=0&ski=0&ls=0&rad2=0
[00:07] <MLow-werk> putty..
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[00:08] <Laurenceb_> oops
[00:08] <Laurenceb_> i think you have to select 200mb - thought it was in the url
[00:09] <Laurenceb_> looks like its still ascending, must be ~sunset now
[00:10] <jcoxon_> hmmm no data for 9m
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[00:16] <jcoxon_> oh i see - its waiting for iss pass
[00:16] <jcoxon_> and apparently the aprs repeater is online
[00:21] <Laurenceb_> interesting...
[00:21] <Laurenceb_> what about doppler?
[00:21] <jcoxon_> if it works it'll appear on here
[00:21] <jcoxon_> http://www.ariss.net/index.cgi?absolute=1
[00:23] <Laurenceb_> iss seems to have died on spacenear
[00:23] <jcoxon_> really?
[00:23] <jcoxon_> its working for me
[00:23] <daveake> moved within the last minute
[00:23] <Upu> zoom in and back out
[00:23] <daveake> moved again :)
[00:23] <Upu> ok I'm off night all
[00:23] <daveake> nn
[00:23] <jcoxon_> night Upu
[00:26] <Laurenceb_> any time now if its working
[00:27] <jcoxon_> local ground station are appearing
[00:28] <jcoxon_> nothing yet
[00:28] <jcoxon_> might take some time to appear
[00:29] <Laurenceb_> passed now :S
[00:30] <jcoxon_> still might get the horizon
[00:31] <jcoxon_> nah i think thats it
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[00:35] <Laurenceb_> :(
[00:35] <Laurenceb_> how did they stop it appearing on main aprs?
[00:35] <jcoxon_> well iss aprs isn't on the same freq as the local aprs
[00:36] <jcoxon_> so most igates won't pick up the digipeated data
[00:36] <Laurenceb_> oh i see
[00:36] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[00:36] Action: Laurenceb_ zz
[00:37] <jcoxon_> night Laurenceb
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[00:44] <jcoxon_> no response from the payload...
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[00:58] <natrium42> jcoxon_: you were looking for me?
[01:01] <jcoxon_> i made spacenear.us better!
[01:01] <natrium42> ISS?? whaaa
[01:01] <natrium42> :D
[01:01] <jcoxon_> cool huh?
[01:01] <natrium42> that's awesome :D
[01:01] <jcoxon_> the flight from the states was aiming to do aprs via the iss
[01:01] <jcoxon_> so i thought why not put them both on the map
[01:02] <natrium42> hahaha
[01:02] <jcoxon_> though it seems there might be an issue as the payload has been quite for quite a while
[01:02] <jcoxon_> is there a way we can turn off the track
[01:02] <jcoxon_> as its going to have lots of lines appearing over night
[01:02] <natrium42> track for iss?
[01:02] <jcoxon_> like we do for chase cars
[01:02] <jcoxon_> i mean path
[01:03] <natrium42> i can change it
[01:04] <natrium42> why is the altitude of ISS only 44km?
[01:04] <jcoxon_> cause we blocked higher remember
[01:05] <jcoxon_> higher defaults to 45km
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[01:05] <natrium42> aah
[01:07] <natrium42> well, i disabled the path
[01:08] <jcoxon_> cool
[01:08] <natrium42> should i remove the altitude limit?
[01:08] <jcoxon_> not sure
[01:08] <jcoxon_> it is helpful normallu
[01:08] <jcoxon_> can it be just for the iss?
[01:08] <natrium42> yeah, can you send the correct altitude then?
[01:09] <jcoxon_> sure
[01:09] <jcoxon_> will switch now
[01:10] <natrium42> sweet :)
[01:10] <jcoxon_> done
[01:11] <natrium42> now the shadow looks a bit weird
[01:12] <jcoxon_> hehe
[01:13] <jcoxon_> okay i need sleep
[01:13] <jcoxon_> back on in 6hrs
[01:13] <natrium42> g'nite!
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[02:55] <MLow-werk> lol
[02:56] <MLow-werk> balls bustin day at work so far
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[06:32] <costyn> heheh... ISS on spacenear tracker
[06:32] <costyn> good stuff
[06:33] <Darkside> not that it's going to help very much
[06:33] <Darkside> that us flight has stopped transmitting
[06:33] <costyn> no, but still looks cool
[06:33] <costyn> yea read your mail
[06:34] <costyn> ISS path looks cool too
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[06:39] <costyn> Darkside: is the us flight meant to be a floater?
[06:46] <Darkside> yeah
[06:47] <oh7lzb> didn't seem to get high enough to catch the speedy winds and float far
[06:48] <Darkside> well its probably still floating
[06:48] <Darkside> just very slowly, and in the coldest layer of the atmosphere
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[08:18] <daveake> Morning all.
[08:18] <Darkside> morning
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[08:19] <number10> morning
[08:19] <daveake> I see the ISS is still flying; not sure about KT5TK-11
[08:19] <Darkside> its frozen
[08:19] <Darkside> pretty sure its because of the temperature
[08:19] <daveake> Ah, OK. Did it stop at the same time it switched frequency?
[08:19] <Darkside> it might wake up again when it travels into daylight
[08:20] <Darkside> no
[08:20] <Darkside> it shuldnt have switched frequency yet
[08:20] <Darkside> well, when it stopped transmitting anyway
[08:20] <daveake> Ah, OK. prolly the cold then. Fingers crossed the sun warms it into life.
[08:20] <jcoxon> morning
[08:20] <Darkside> morning jcoxon
[08:20] <daveake> jcoxon all set for your launch(es)?
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[08:23] <Pavix> Morning, I am in the planning stages of my balloon and have a question I don't see answered anywhere else. I've read that at launch a 1200 gram balloon is roughly 6 feet around, and when it bursts at about 100,000 feet it's roughly 25 feet around. Has anyone tested what would happen if they used 2 balloons, one completely full, and the other half full? Would they still burst at the same time?
[08:23] <Pavix> If not would the second half full one be able to lift the package any higher?
[08:23] <jcoxon> daveake, think so
[08:23] <daveake> :)
[08:23] <jcoxon> won't know till steve gets here :-)
[08:24] <jcoxon> Pavix, its been tried but no success
[08:24] <jcoxon> its quite complicated as they have a habit of oscillating against each other
[08:24] <Pavix> Gotcha, so not worth it financially
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[08:25] <daveake> Pavix Even if it worked it would just get the payload up quicker compared to having a single under-inflated balloon; it wouldn't get any higher
[08:26] <Pavix> I see, so no way to get it higher then
[08:26] <daveake> For height have a smaller payload and bigger balloon
[08:27] <daveake> And don't be tempted to under-inflate 'cos it will probably float at a lower altitude
[08:28] <Pavix> Hmm, I don't think my payload is going to be incredibly heavy, I'll have a virgin mobile LG Optimus V for gps location when it gets back down, a powershot for stills, probably a second camera for video, gps module, logger and maybe a few sensors
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[08:29] <daveake> That'll be 1kg or maybe slightly less
[08:30] <daveake> And yes a 1200g balloon well get you to around 100,000 feet
[08:31] <daveake> Which is plenty high enough for some great shots
[08:31] <Pavix> Yea, the pics I've seen were pretty awesome
[08:31] <SpeedEvil> Does anyone happen to know the rules on high altitude kites?
[08:33] <daveake> number10 I got myself one of these :-) http://tinyurl.com/7nnejsa
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[08:37] <navrac> is the launch still on for 10?
[08:37] <jcoxon> navrac, 10ish
[08:38] <navrac> ok - will blow the snow off the ygi
[08:38] <andrew_apex> jcoxon: is there a profile in fldigi, or do I just select the shift/mode manually?
[08:38] <jcoxon> xaben
[08:39] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfOEJ-HZ1-Q - on blowing the snow off
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[08:42] <number10> have you got it setup daveake ?
[08:43] <number10> interesting it says 26 foot but descriptioin says giving a 17ft total extension
[08:45] <natrium42> jcoxon: ISS still circling :D
[08:45] <andrew_apex> anyone got a download link for (windows) fldigi HAb mode? I want to stick it on my netbook...
[08:46] <number10> http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi
[08:46] <andrew_apex> thanks number10
[08:46] <daveake> number10 it is 26'. That's not the actual listing I bought from btw.
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[08:47] <daveake> Only purchased last night so sadly not set up in time for jcoxon's flight today
[08:51] <number10> will you mount the yagi on it or use verticle? daveake
[08:52] <daveake> Was thinking vertical
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[08:52] <daveake> babel.c loade
[08:52] <daveake> d
[08:53] <number10> :)
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[09:13] <Pavix> Have any of you used the thermometers or barometers from sparkfun in your payloads? I can't decide if any of them will work
[09:14] <Upu> BMP085 / DS18B20
[09:14] <Upu> morning
[09:14] <Pavix> Morning
[09:18] <daveake> I see SPoT is on the map :)
[09:19] <LazyLeopard> I guess KT5TK vanished into the Gulf?
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[09:24] Nick change: Upu -> Upu-2E0UPU
[09:24] <jcoxon> just intergrating the payload
[09:30] <Pavix> Are you guys using arduinos in your payload or just dumping the data to a logger?
[09:32] <Upu-2E0UPU> mine is a customised Arduino
[09:32] <Upu-2E0UPU> I made the board myself but I use Arduino to program it
[09:32] <Upu-2E0UPU> at its core its a 3.3v Arduino Pro @ 8Mhz
[09:33] <Upu-2E0UPU> http://ava.upuaut.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ava.jpg
[09:33] <Pavix> Ahh, I am thinking about the arduino uno, trying to keep the costs down
[09:33] <Upu-2E0UPU> only slight issue is the GPS chips tend to run at 3.3v but you can get a level converter
[09:34] <Pavix> That's a nice looking board
[09:34] <Pavix> Is that a lassen IQ gps?
[09:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> no ublox 6
[09:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> cheers
[09:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> quite a bit smaller than the lassen
[09:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> I'm releasing some breakout boards complete with ublox and antenna early next week
[09:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> they won't be too expensive so subscribe to the mailing list
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[09:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> ok off shopping
[09:36] <Pavix> Have fun
[09:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> remote rig is on Darkside/fsphil
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[09:39] <Darkside> Upu-2E0UPU: ok
[09:39] <Darkside> if i can remember the login
[09:39] <Darkside> >_>
[09:44] <Pavix> This seekdroid is gonna work like a treat. I'm glad I am using it instead of the GM862
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[10:02] <jcoxon> payload setup
[10:03] <jcoxon> will be another 45mins before launch
[10:03] <natrium42> \o/
[10:04] <natrium42> good luck!
[10:06] <navrac> by sheer coincidence - its shown to land bout half \ mile from friends of mine who are driving up to suffolk in 2 hours time - if you had launched on time they could hve brought it back for you!
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[10:18] <jcoxon> payload and parachute rigged
[10:19] <Darkside> wqoo
[10:19] <Darkside> woo
[10:20] <fsphil-laptop> us launch stopped transmitting?
[10:22] <Darkside> yeah the payload got too cold i think
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[10:25] <chembrow> when did the spacenear.us tracker turn into a satellite tracker?
[10:25] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[10:26] <chembrow> I need to build a decent antenna for satellite work
[10:26] <Darkside> turnstile antenna!
[10:27] <chembrow> I was looking at one of those or a quad helix
[10:30] Action: LazyL-M0LEP just noticed where XABEN is. Was doing the tourist thing there last autumn. ;)
[10:30] <LazyL-M0LEP> Which of the XABEN payload definitions is the relevant one?
[10:30] <jcoxon> the normal one
[10:31] <jcoxon> okay we are going down to the barn to fill
[10:31] <LazyL-M0LEP> Thanks
[10:31] <jcoxon> so will be out of contact for a bit
[10:31] <SpeedEvil> Have fun!
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[10:39] <Dutch-Mill> chembrow : a parasitic lindenblad satelitte antenna : http://www.kl7uw.com/LBant.htm ?
[10:41] <chembrow> Dutch-Mill: is that 4 dipoles at 90' to each other?
[10:43] <Dutch-Mill> No a single dipole and 4 parasitic elements ...easer to build
[10:44] <chembrow> I'll have a look. thanks
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[10:48] <Darkside> oh god
[10:48] <Darkside> lindenblads
[10:48] <Darkside> they're annoying
[10:48] <chembrow> why?
[10:49] <Darkside> ahh i havent been able to construct one properly yet
[10:49] <Darkside> turnstiles are easier
[10:55] <G8DSU> Built a 70cm parasitic Lindenblad from an AMSAT-UK kit. Haven't used it a lot but it does seem to perform better than a mobile whip on a pole for HAB tracking.
[11:03] <G3VZV_Graham_> morning all - sorry for the bandwidth but do we have an upcoming alunch this morning still?
[11:04] <G3VZV_Graham_> *launch
[11:04] <daveake> Launch imminent I think; lunch I'm waiting on :D
[11:06] <natrium42> it's 3 am, hurry up!
[11:06] <LazyL-M0LEP> ;)
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[11:08] <number10> its cold and misty outside - so i guess they are cold
[11:08] <daveake> Yep. That's got to slow things down
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[11:16] <G3VZV_Graham_> thanks!
[11:18] <navrac> ooh its moving - looks lunch time
[11:18] <navrac> launch
[11:18] <LazyL-M0LEP> been 45 minutes since Jamse said they were heading for the barn to fill...
[11:20] <number10> up
[11:20] <daveake> wee
[11:20] <number10> strong sig
[11:20] <daveake> Freq?
[11:21] <number10> dead on .650
[11:21] <daveake> ta
[11:21] <daveake> too low for me
[11:21] Nick change: number10 -> number10_2E0DBR
[11:23] <navrac_> strong signal here but trouble decoding for some reason
[11:23] <number10_2E0DBR> 434.6492
[11:23] <LazyL-M0LEP> Faint traces on waterfall here...
[11:24] <daveake> One faint line here; must be something else
[11:24] <navrac_> it is 50/ 425 7 bits
[11:25] <cuddykid> morning morning, tuned in to 650 a few mins ago with the whip, nothing here, will try in a bit :D
[11:25] <LazyL-M0LEP> That's what the XABEN config set it to....
[11:25] <number10_2E0DBR> yes
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[11:25] <number10_2E0DBR> 50/7/n/1
[11:25] <jcoxon> HEY
[11:26] <jcoxon> oops
[11:26] <jcoxon> its up
[11:26] <LazyL-M0LEP> Getting intermittent signal. Is there some morse added in?
[11:26] <jcoxon> no morse
[11:26] <jcoxon> there is a small gap in between strings but with carrier
[11:26] <G3VZV_Graham_> just detecting it here in Milton Keynes
[11:26] <navrac_> strong signal here - but getting repeated trubbish decodes.
[11:26] <LazyL-M0LEP> Sounds like it's spinning fast...
[11:27] <G3VZV_Graham_> 400hz shift
[11:28] <navrac_> yep im down to 400
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[11:30] <cuddykid> morning Will :)
[11:30] <fsphil-laptop> how often does the spot update jcoxon?
[11:30] <cuddykid> nothing in worcester yet..
[11:30] <LazyL-M0LEP> Yeah, 400 shift, but the signal amplitude is so variable that I'm losing at least one character in four....
[11:30] <WillDuckworth> morning - how's it all looking?
[11:31] <cuddykid> just set off I think
[11:31] <jcoxon> fsphil-laptop, 30mind
[11:31] <cuddykid> low alt atm
[11:31] <jcoxon> i'd expect the spin to slow
[11:31] <jcoxon> deep cloud here
[11:31] <fsphil-laptop> love the ascent rate :)
[11:32] <navrac_> got it nicely now
[11:32] <LazyL-M0LEP> Now it's strong enough for the dips to still register ;)
[11:32] <jcoxon> fsphil-laptop, spot is not automated to the tracker
[11:32] <jcoxon> will make it so
[11:32] <jcoxon> once its actually working
[11:33] <fsphil-laptop> aye -- is this using the altitude encoding?
[11:33] <natrium42> jcoxon: but is it transmitting?
[11:33] <jcoxon> fsphil-laptop, no
[11:34] <jcoxon> wasn't playing nice
[11:34] <fsphil-laptop> ah, shame
[11:37] <Darkside> what dual frequency do you guys have it at?
[11:37] <Darkside> dial
[11:38] <jcoxon> spot
[11:38] <jcoxon> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=52.01707,0.7896&ll=52.01707,0.7896&ie=UTF8&z=12&om=1
[11:39] <LazyL-M0LEP> Darkside: 434.649.60
[11:39] <Upu-2E0UPU> oo its up :) Still all yours Darkside as I'm off out again in 2 mins
[11:40] <jcoxon> hows the spin?
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[11:45] <number10_2E0DBR> what are the data fields after temp?
[11:46] <fsphil-laptop> isn't this suppose to turn west?
[11:46] <navrac_> pressure - but it also hjust said pyro?
[11:47] <LazyL-M0LEP> spin's not noticable here now.
[11:47] <fsphil-laptop> G7WAW -- you've got your longitude backwards :)
[11:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> G7WAW your getting weet feet :-)
[11:50] <navrac_> just dropping the aerial down for 'essential maintenance' will be back tracking in 5 mins
[11:50] <fsphil-laptop> good spot for tracking though, no local QRM :)
[11:51] <fsphil-laptop> I've got my radio on, but I'm beginning to think it's not going to get above my horizon at all
[11:51] <cuddykid> lol fsphil
[11:51] <cuddykid> I'll give it a try from worcester now
[11:52] <G3VZV_Graham_> has just found his super-duper Xd yagi isnt working - but the white stick up the tree is!
[11:52] <fsphil-laptop> huhs
[11:52] <fsphil-laptop> damaged?
[11:53] <jcoxon> next spot tx will be at 1206ish
[11:53] <daveake> Woo a complete sentence :-)
[11:54] <fsphil-laptop> love it when that happens :D
[11:54] <cuddykid> nothing here yet
[11:54] <ingersol> it could be dark before it gets above my horizon in scotland!!
[11:54] <cuddykid> lol ingersol
[11:54] <daveake> I got my pole up.
[11:54] <LazyL-M0LEP> White sticks have the advantage of not needing steering. ;)
[11:54] <daveake> Normally I get nowt under 4km but this is better
[11:54] <cuddykid> this could be one epic flight!
[11:54] <cuddykid> :D
[11:55] <LazyL-M0LEP> And I don't have to go outside and rig the mast and antenna, which is a double-plus in this weather!
[11:55] <cuddykid> time to violate french airspace :P
[11:55] <cuddykid> what's the predicted float altitude?
[11:56] <number10_2E0DBR> what is a white stick LazyL-M0LEP ?
[11:56] <G3VZV_Graham_> white stick is an omni directional vertical polarisation antenna...normally built inside a white fibreglass or plastic tube - hence the name
[11:56] <LazyL-M0LEP> A co-linear ;)
[11:57] <cuddykid> I'm guessing the temp reading is internal?
[11:57] <navrac_> drifting now - or is that my receiver?
[11:58] <cuddykid> should be over my horizon very soon
[11:58] <daveake> It's moved up about 300Hz last 10 mins
[12:00] <jcoxon> external temp
[12:00] <navrac_> my yagi is full of water - forgot to plug the hole when I changed the cable - the signal improves when i shake the mast and water drips out..
[12:00] <LazyL-M0LEP> ewww!
[12:01] <cuddykid> external temp?! Wow, that's quite warm! :P
[12:02] <navrac_> nearly warmer than ground level here!
[12:02] <cuddykid> yeah!
[12:02] <cuddykid> it's almost in keeping with http://habexperiments.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/2.png
[12:02] <daveake> temp is bouncing round a bit
[12:02] <daveake> Had 0 and -3.2 on consecutive readings
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[12:03] <cuddykid> going to get out the yagi
[12:03] <navrac_> going to switch to remote control and going into the lounge to sit by the fire
[12:04] <daveake> :)
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[12:05] <fsphil> mmmm
[12:06] <fsphil-laptop> I can't complain, we've been having mild weather these past few weeks
[12:06] <fsphil-laptop> it's lovely outside today :)
[12:06] <cuddykid> nothing inside here with the yagi
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[12:09] <daveake> Temporary stability system for my pole :-) http://i.imgur.com/asdtL.jpg
[12:10] <fsphil-laptop> phew, I had visions of your wife standing outside holding it up
[12:10] <daveake> good idea :)
[12:10] <LazyL-M0LEP> Heh!
[12:10] <daveake> Outside - http://i.imgur.com/hym0A.jpg
[12:10] <fsphil-laptop> no fair, snow
[12:11] <jcoxon> hows the signal?
[12:11] <daveake> Fine here since it got past 2km or so
[12:12] <daveake> Not needed to retune yet
[12:12] <navrac> pretty good here - s6 - no lost pckets except for moving the aerial
[12:12] <junderwood> Good here as well. Freq is stable and strength is good on a discone.
[12:12] <junderwood> Not going to bother putting the yagi out - too cold.
[12:13] <cuddykid> slight worry - it's predicted to fly around the right altitude and in the flight path for arrivals into london airports
[12:13] <cuddykid> should be ok though
[12:13] Action: daveake keeps eye out for sudden increase in horizontal speed
[12:14] <navrac> followed by huge rise in temperature
[12:14] <cuddykid> lol
[12:15] Action: daveake Switches tv tuner to BBC News just in case
[12:16] <Darkside> upu's site is now decoding well
[12:17] <fsphil-laptop> 7 stations decoding, nice
[12:17] <fsphil-laptop> 8 even
[12:17] <cuddykid> looks like it crossed paths almost with a ba plane, fortunately 1km lower :D
[12:17] <jcoxon> cuddykid, its a big sky
[12:18] <cuddykid> jcoxon: yeah :P
[12:18] <daveake> Indeed. As cuddykid and my photos from last week showed
[12:19] <cuddykid> if there was anyone who would've been likely to collide with one it would've been myself last week near high wycombe lol
[12:20] <cuddykid> going to have another listen in
[12:20] <CovBalloon> damn, i wish i had my radio
[12:21] <daveake> Left it somewhere?
[12:21] <jcoxon> global tuners will work
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[12:22] Action: costyn still has had no luck getting the coax down from the roof through a vent. shaft :( everything else is ready for tracking. bummer would've liked to participate today
[12:22] <vk5gr> ping juxta
[12:22] <fsphil-laptop> costyn, you might get away with a really simple wire antenna - of the same sort used on the payloads
[12:22] <cuddykid> still nothing here on with the yagi indoors
[12:22] <SpeedEvil> costyn: fish rape.
[12:22] <SpeedEvil> costyn: fish tape
[12:22] <fsphil-laptop> yikes
[12:23] <cuddykid> it should be over the horizon aswell now :S
[12:23] <CovBalloon> havent bought it yet
[12:23] <daveake> Indoors? Get outside yer softy!
[12:23] Action: LazyL-M0LEP boggles briefly ;)
[12:23] <daveake> CovBalloon Ah, that wouldn't help :)
[12:23] <CovBalloon> need to be a bit more adventerous on ebay
[12:24] <daveake> Yeah they do come up. Took me ages to get my AR8000
[12:26] <fsphil-laptop> interesting, the order the packets arrive at habitat never seems to change much
[12:26] <fsphil-laptop> G8GTZ first, then daveake
[12:27] <daveake> Guess we know who has the shortest route then :)
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[12:27] <fsphil-laptop> you where first that time daveake
[12:28] <daveake> Yeah I wound up the voltage on my router :p
[12:28] <fsphil-laptop> 9 stations received that last one
[12:28] <daveake> nice
[12:28] <navrac_> daughter streming tv on this connection atm and wireless link in the way
[12:29] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: could be, although I doubt I'd have much luck inside? and I'm not going outside as it's below freezing and covered in snow :)
[12:29] <fsphil-laptop> navrac_, you're usually the 2nd or 3rd station
[12:29] <costyn> SpeedEvil: and say what? :)
[12:29] <fsphil-laptop> bbl
[12:29] <navrac_> thats not too shabby for village in suffolk then
[12:30] <LazyL-M0LEP> I figure the order depends on how quickly the listener's machine can decode the packet as much as anything. ;)
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[12:31] Action: daveake pats his nice new 6-core machine
[12:31] <LazyL-M0LEP> I'd guess there are mere milliseconds between them.
[12:31] <SpeedEvil> costyn: fish tape is sort-of-like tape-measure tape that's used to get wires down walls
[12:31] Action: LazyL-M0LEP pets his old 500MHz frankenlaptop
[12:32] <cuddykid> I can here faintly here :D
[12:32] <cuddykid> lol daveake :P
[12:32] <number10_2E0DBR> number10 takes his microtan 65 down the dump
[12:32] <navrac_> I guess its time for n upgrade then
[12:33] <costyn> SpeedEvil: ok, interesting, I've been trying it with a long stretch of official cable pulling wire, but there's not a lot of spare room in the duct, fish tape might just work
[12:33] <navrac_> i think a lptop with an a key tht i dont hve to thump takes precidence
[12:33] <SpeedEvil> costyn: If it's duct, a hoover can work too
[12:34] <navrac> anything from spot?
[12:36] <g4dpz> G3VZV, slightligh off topic, just loaded HamSatDroid with pre-launch VEGA keps, looking good :-)
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[12:37] <jcoxon> navrac, yeah its working well
[12:37] <jcoxon> but i'm not auto uploading
[12:37] <navrac> nap time, ping me if i drop off the trckers and need to swing the yagi
[12:38] <costyn> SpeedEvil: thanks for the suggestions, been reading up on fishtape, maybe I need to work on my technique cause i have a round nylon fish tape thing now, but was just shoving it down, haven't tried twisting it yet
[12:38] <navrac> oh thts good - sw you mentioned a 12:06 transmission and worried
[12:38] <costyn> Dutch-Mill: ping
[12:38] <cuddykid> it seems to be rather warm outside today (as in at 5km altitude :P)
[12:40] <daveake> 10 listeners
[12:40] <costyn> well I guess I have my answer if Dutch-Mill is receiving :)
[12:40] <Dutch-Mill> yes
[12:41] <Dutch-Mill> weak signal but it decodes
[12:43] <costyn> Dutch-Mill: do you know the WBD station which is showing on the map near Bergen op Zoom?
[12:43] <Dutch-Mill> No an new one I think
[12:44] <LazyL-M0LEP> looks like it's actually raining here, so it must be warming up...
[12:47] <costyn> whats the dial freq now?
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[12:48] <LazyL-M0LEP> Whoa! That was a deep fade...
[12:48] <LazyL-M0LEP> 434.649.60
[12:48] <jcoxon> still alive?
[12:48] <LazyL-M0LEP> Yep.
[12:49] <jcoxon> okay
[12:49] <jcoxon> we re going to tidy up
[12:49] <jcoxon> so we'll be out of contact for a bit
[12:49] <Upu-2E0UPU> thats loud and clear
[12:50] <Upu-2E0UPU> whats it doing there ?
[12:50] <Upu-2E0UPU> ah spot isn't updating
[12:51] <navrac> just not being uploaded appartently
[12:55] <LazyL-M0LEP> Just shifted dial to 434.650.30 which puts it more central in the waterfall. Getting some interesting fades at the moment, so guess there's cloud in the way (or something)...
[12:56] <LazyL-M0LEP> Range only 22.7 kms ;)
[12:57] <LazyL-M0LEP> At this rate it'll be going into my co-linear's overhead null ;)
[12:57] <Upu-2E0UPU> Well fsphil tried that and it didn't work
[12:59] <LazyL-M0LEP> Definitely seeing plenty of QSB at the moment. How much is signal path and how much is antenna response I'm not sure...
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[13:00] <fsphil-laptop> I've drove under a payload and didn't lose the signal, although it got very weak
[13:00] <LazyL-M0LEP> Straight whip or an actual co-linear?
[13:00] <fsphil-laptop> whip
[13:00] <fsphil-laptop> 434.649.60 still the dial frequency?
[13:01] <LazyL-M0LEP> I'm now on 434.650.29
[13:01] <Upu-2E0UPU> Sounds very faint from my end
[13:01] <Upu-2E0UPU> still decoding Darkside ?
[13:02] <fsphil-laptop> going slightly west
[13:02] <Darkside> Upu-2E0UPU: i'm not conencted
[13:02] <fsphil-laptop> what's the prediction?
[13:02] <Darkside> i left it going and disconnected
[13:02] <Upu-2E0UPU> ok
[13:03] <costyn> yea when's it supposed to head east (what alti)?
[13:03] <Upu-2E0UPU> its decoding fine
[13:03] <LazyL-M0LEP> Lost a couple of lines through QSB. That's quite extreme given the range....
[13:03] <fsphil-laptop> still 9 stations decoding
[13:04] <fsphil-laptop> 10 stations that time
[13:04] <LazyL-M0LEP> raining here, which probably isn't helping.
[13:04] <fsphil-laptop> I think this might be the best covered launch ever
[13:04] <daveake> Haven't lost any packets here for ages except when I retuned
[13:04] <Upu-2E0UPU> its very strong
[13:04] <LazyL-M0LEP> I remember one with 12 stations at once.
[13:05] <Upu-2E0UPU> Shift 385 from here
[13:05] <LazyL-M0LEP> Getting a bit of QRM as well as the QSB here.
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[13:05] <Upu-2E0UPU> Whats Parse 0run mean ?
[13:06] <daveake> I was about to ask :)
[13:06] <Laurenceb_> what envelope is flying?
[13:06] <Upu-2E0UPU> Envelope ?
[13:06] <Laurenceb_> what sort of balloon
[13:06] <Upu-2E0UPU> Float-o-matic 1600
[13:07] <G0DJA> Hi - Can hear the RTTY but cant figure out the width or bit rate can someone let me know the correct settings please?
[13:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> (Hwoyee)
[13:07] <Laurenceb_> ah cool
[13:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> G0DJA 50 baud
[13:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> shift is 385
[13:07] <G0DJA> Thanks
[13:07] <number10_2E0DBR> 7 n 1
[13:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> RTTY
[13:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> if you're using dl-fldigi select XABEN in payloads and hit autoconfigure
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[13:08] <G0DJA> Cant set 385 in FLDigi...
[13:08] <Upu-2E0UPU> sure you can
[13:08] <Upu-2E0UPU> click op mode
[13:08] <Upu-2E0UPU> rtty
[13:08] <number10_2E0DBR> custom setting
[13:08] <Upu-2E0UPU> custom
[13:09] <Upu-2E0UPU> then select custom carrier shift
[13:09] <Upu-2E0UPU> it'll decode with the default setting probably
[13:09] <G0DJA> 240/350/425 are the nearest settings...
[13:09] <Upu-2E0UPU> Are you using DL-FLdigi ?
[13:10] <LazyL-M0LEP> Try 350 if you can't enter a custom value.
[13:11] <G0DJA> DL-FLDigi for high altitude balooning here
[13:11] <G8GTZ> Is there any way to do auto rotator tracking?
[13:11] <fsphil-laptop> G8GTZ, nothing standard yet
[13:11] <Upu-2E0UPU> in that case you can select Op Mode -> RTTY -> Custom then select custom shift
[13:11] <G0DJA> 350 seems to be working but will try to find the XABEN setting button
[13:11] <daveake> There's a "custom" entry at the bottom of the gap list
[13:11] <Upu-2E0UPU> G8GTZ there will be and fsphil is doing it though he doesn't know it yet
[13:12] <Upu-2E0UPU> in the mean time the bearing is displayed in the decode box at the top
[13:12] <Laurenceb_> was there any more data from KT5TK-11?
[13:12] <Laurenceb_> or did it die?
[13:12] <number10_2E0DBR> G0DJA: top left of fldigi there is a drop down list of Flights
[13:12] <G8GTZ> OK - currently PSTrotator which has a load of interfaces to trackers...
[13:12] <Upu-2E0UPU> and you can use Maths(TM) to work out the elevation
[13:13] <fsphil-laptop> creeping up on 10km
[13:13] <fsphil-laptop> it may yet get above my horizon
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[13:13] <costyn> Upu-2E0UPU: exercise is left for the reader? :)
[13:13] <Upu-2E0UPU> thats the one
[13:13] <G8GTZ> OK - I'm rxing and decoding at my remote farm site so can't see the box ;-)
[13:14] <Upu-2E0UPU> I have a G-5500 here but weather has been too crap to get it on the roof
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[13:15] <Upu-2E0UPU> fsphil I have to go pick up the wifes new car, I'll leave it listening with AFC on but feel free to jump in and retune if needed
[13:15] <fsphil-2I0VIM> will do
[13:16] <fsphil-2I0VIM> 11 stations decoding
[13:16] <G8GTZ> Just checked the box on decode window - says 178 and 5,000+ Km distance - chacked my lat and long is correct - what's wrong?
[13:17] <fsphil-2I0VIM> did you select the xaben payload from the drop-down box and press auto-configure?
[13:17] <G0DJA> Hopefully I've remembered to keep the settings to upload what I'm hearing!
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[13:19] <G8GTZ> yep - lat and long look correct
[13:19] <G0DJA> No, it would appear not - where's the 'plaod to server' option please?
[13:19] <AndroUser> What's the latest frequency of the payload? And USB or LSB?
[13:19] <G0DJA> upload to server...
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[13:19] <G8GTZ> Aah - just re-loaded it and its OK
[13:19] <fsphil-2I0VIM> AndroUser, it's quite near 434.650 mhz, usb
[13:20] <G0DJA> I'm receining on USB with 434.651MHz on dial to keep in the window
[13:20] <fsphil-2I0VIM> G0DJA, in the Dl-client menu it's the Upload bit - it should be checked
[13:20] <G0DJA> receiving - even
[13:20] <daveake> G8GTZ You need to autoconfigure in the configure --> DL Client screen too
[13:20] <fsphil-2I0VIM> you are uploading though
[13:20] <Laurenceb_> i suspect we are going to lose reception?
[13:21] <G0DJA> Thanks - yes it's selected but the map seems to say I'm using a colinear and no received packets - maybe I'm looking at the wrong tracking page?
[13:21] <fsphil-2I0VIM> G0DJA, ah -- restart dl-fldigi, it don't upload the position very often. (but make so to press autoconfigure again)
[13:22] <G8GTZ> Seems to be OK now ;-) Presumably the bearing data is in a file somewhere - I'll send it to the guy who write pstrotator - he's always up for new trackers to interface to...
[13:22] <G0DJA> The server is showing as http://robertharrison.org/listen/ is that the right one?
[13:22] <fsphil-2I0VIM> that's it
[13:23] <G0DJA> I think I'm looking at the wrong map! It's http://spacenear.us/tracker/
[13:23] <fsphil-2I0VIM> that's the right map
[13:24] <fsphil-2I0VIM> is the decode bar along the top turning green?
[13:24] <G0DJA> Occasionally yes
[13:25] <G0DJA> It's red showing XABEN,644,13:22:51,50.98595,-0.09016,10378,-25.2,2$$0$.9*0B6F at the moment
[13:25] <fsphil-2I0VIM> it should upload the data when it turns green
[13:25] <fsphil-2I0VIM> red means it failed the checksum, and it drops those
[13:27] <G0DJA> Maybe the signals strength is too low and I'm not copying everything then
[13:27] <daveake> It's going quite close to where cloud3 splashed down :)
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[13:27] <fsphil-2I0VIM> G0DJA, you are online-- just saw your client upload it's position details
[13:28] <G0DJA> Hurray :-) Thanks for letting me know
[13:28] <fsphil-2I0VIM> next time you get a valid packet, it should appear on my list here
[13:29] <fsphil-2I0VIM> if the signal is strong and your still not getting very many decodes -- try adjusting the rtty shift
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[13:30] <daveake> 7km from my splashdown point :)
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[13:30] <G0DJA> It's not very strong and I think I may be cross polarised using a horizontal beam
[13:30] <fsphil-2I0VIM> ah
[13:31] <fsphil-2I0VIM> that may explain it
[13:31] <fsphil-2I0VIM> the antenna on the payload is vertical
[13:31] <jcoxon_> moving location
[13:31] <jcoxon_> bbl
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[13:32] <G0DJA> Had to take down the vertical as the bracket was coming out of the wall!
[13:33] <G0DJA> It's quite a way south of me at 250km as well
[13:33] <daveake> Near Shoreham-bySea. I know it well :D
[13:33] <AndroUser> Receiving a strong signal - all good here. Where is it? (I can only see last lon)
[13:34] <AndroUser> *lat lon
[13:34] <daveake> 50.82424,-0.34033
[13:35] <AndroUser> Got that - where is it geographically?
[13:35] <fsphil-2I0VIM> shift is down to 355Hz
[13:35] <daveake> Worthing, Sussex
[13:35] <G0DJA> It's changed back to 425 from 385 that I set and I cant seem to get it back again
[13:36] <fsphil-2I0VIM> G0DJA, Configure -> Modems -> RTTY -> Set shift to 'Custom' and adjust the slider
[13:36] <AndroUser> I'm doing very well at 370 shift
[13:36] <G0DJA> Thanks - back to 355 now.
[13:37] <fsphil-2I0VIM> Upu-2E0UPU's dial frequency is 434.649
[13:37] <daveake> If it keeps going west my house is going to be in the way of the signal :(
[13:38] <Darkside> zzzz time for me
[13:38] <Darkside> 73s
[13:38] <fsphil-2I0VIM> night Darkside
[13:38] <number10_2E0DBR> thats bad planning daveake
[13:38] <fsphil-2I0VIM> lol
[13:39] <daveake> lol
[13:39] <fsphil-2I0VIM> the Earth is in the way for me
[13:39] <M1ELR> how do we see the updates from SPOT, nothing on my map.
[13:39] <daveake> Payloads normally go east
[13:40] <number10_2E0DBR> M1ELR: no spot information uploaded at moment - james said there was problem - he is receiving location info thogh
[13:40] <G0DJA> What should the checksum be? It's showing as *ADEA at the moment here
[13:40] <M1ELR> ok thanks.
[13:41] <fsphil-2I0VIM> the last one was *8131 G0DJA
[13:41] <G0DJA> There's 3 options for XABEN in the "Flight" button
[13:41] <fsphil-2I0VIM> ReAscending?
[13:41] <fsphil-2I0VIM> it's just XABEN
[13:41] <G8GTZ> Does fldigi write the bearing data to local hard drive or just up load it traceker site?
[13:41] <fsphil-2I0VIM> not sure what the other ones are
[13:42] <fsphil-2I0VIM> G8GTZ, it only displays it
[13:42] <G8GTZ> pity...
[13:42] <G0DJA> OK - That'll be because I've not had a valid decode for a while then
[13:42] <fsphil-2I0VIM> G8GTZ, that could change though
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[13:42] <G8GTZ> If it wrote that to the local drive then a rotator control program could read it...
[13:43] <F6AGV> Onlineradio tu es là ? C'est F6AGV ?
[13:43] <fsphil-2I0VIM> is there a preferred format G8GTZ?
[13:43] <costyn> AndroUser: you know of the tracker map right? http://spacenear.us/tracker/ you can see exactly where it is on google maps
[13:43] <AndroUser> I'm on my phone with limited data :)
[13:43] <costyn> AndroUser: aah :)
[13:44] <fsphil-2I0VIM> the tracker doesn't work on android anyway :(
[13:44] <G0DJA> Is there a way to look back to see if any of the decodes were good?
[13:44] <G8GTZ> Take a look http://www.qsl.net/yo3dmu/index_Page346.htm - the guy who writes this is open to new trackers - already does about 20...
[13:44] <fsphil-2I0VIM> G0DJA, the page http://www.robertharrison.org/listen/view.php shows all received telemetry -- but be warned it's huge!
[13:45] <G0DJA> OK - Thanks
[13:45] <fsphil-2I0VIM> this was your last one: G0DJA : XABEN,637,13:20:31,51.01860,-0.03773,10125,-26.2,255.71,4;5;5FA0;0.9*ADEA
[13:45] <costyn> F6AGV: vous aurez besoin de parler anglais ici, désolé
[13:46] <costyn> F6AGV: désolé pour mon français, en utilisant google translate
[13:46] <fsphil-2I0VIM> G8GTZ, opened, will have a read shortly. going for some food first :)
[13:46] <G0DJA> Looks like a few of mine made it OK
[13:47] <Onlineradio> message to "french balloon" mailing-list for RX repport is ok
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[13:49] <costyn> dial freq still 434.649.00 ?
[13:50] <daveake> yep
[13:50] <G0DJA> I've had to drop down to 434.649.70 here
[13:51] <G8GTZ> 434.649.060 here
[13:51] <LazyL-M0LEP> 434.648.29 on the dial here
[13:52] <G0DJA> Decode seems to start OK and then fades away towards end and errors creep in
[13:52] <G8GTZ> Just goes to show how bad our calibrations are (not ;-)
[13:52] <G8GTZ> How far / long is it expected to go?
[13:53] <G0DJA> Wonder what was wrong with G0DJA : ZZ,G0DJA,2012-02-12 12:57:16,53.227180,-1.282575,TS2000X,13 ELEMENT YAGI,r115,XABEN
[13:53] <costyn> G8GTZ: very :)
[13:53] <costyn> G8GTZ: it's on a slow ascent, the plan is it should start floating at a certain altitude and just keep going with the winds
[13:53] <G0DJA> Ooops cut and paste from FL-Digi didn't work!
[13:54] <G8GTZ> and the radio batteries last for...
[13:54] <G0DJA> $$$$$$XABEN,733,13:52:30,50.62125,-0.56844,13672,-27.7,142.85,4;5;5FA0;0.8*F705 was what it should have been...
[13:55] <G0DJA> But still the window was red...
[13:55] <navrac_> i think my zl special is ill - im getting the strongest signal pointing 90 degrees away from the launch
[13:55] <costyn> G8GTZ: not sure, we'll have to ask jcoxon when he gets back online
[13:55] <navrac_> sorry balloon not launch
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[13:59] <G0DJA> Hurray - A green decode :-)
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[14:02] <G0DJA> Seem to have found a good spot for my set up - HI
[14:03] <daveake> 11 listeners just now
[14:05] <number10_2E0DBR> there are so many stations on line, no one noticed I had an antenna pole disaster
[14:07] <G0DJA> What happened?
[14:08] <number10_2E0DBR> is a 1/4 wave on the end of fissing rod pole and it snapped
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[14:08] <number10_2E0DBR> fishing
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[14:08] <G0DJA> Last time I used FL-Digi it blew my RX only preamp! FL-Digi seems to key the rig briefly when you start it up and that was enough to kill the preamp
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[14:09] <G0DJA> Fishing poles are a bit suseptable to that problem
[14:09] <daveake> number10_2E0DBR What you need is one of those ali poles ........ ;-)
[14:10] <SpeedEvil> I found a good pole for HAB on ebay
[14:10] <number10_2E0DBR> indeed - had broken previosly with a too heavy load and repair was inadequate G0DJA
[14:10] <number10_2E0DBR> yes daveake, I know a man who may be able to do a deal ;)
[14:10] <daveake> :p
[14:11] <AndroUser> How do I get fldigi to upload the data?
[14:12] <number10_2E0DBR> select online from the DL client menu AndroUser
[14:12] <costyn> funny, at 15K and still warmer than most of Scandinavia and Middle/Eastern Europe
[14:12] <AndroUser> Got it (I'm M6KRB)
[14:12] <G0DJA> Never tried fixing a fishing pole but once broken that's going to be a problem again
[14:13] <costyn> Dutch-Mill: are you still receiving/decoding?
[14:14] <G0DJA> Ooo another decode at 310km - not bad for a TS2000X with no preamp!
[14:14] <number10_2E0DBR> yes I think you are right G0DJA
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[14:14] <jcoxon> hey all
[14:15] <LazyL-M0LEP> Ah yes, there's a listening station at 0,0.
[14:15] <daveake> :D
[14:15] <fsphil-2I0VIM> back
[14:15] <daveake> Hi jcoxon. Lots of listeners here
[14:15] <costyn> there's a french station on the map now
[14:15] <jcoxon> yeah
[14:15] <fsphil-2I0VIM> 11 stations decoding
[14:15] <G0DJA> I guess it being above 16000 (feet/metres?) helps a bit though...
[14:15] <jcoxon> and it surivived the 12km barrier with the ublox
[14:15] <jcoxon> so guys there is one problem
[14:15] <jcoxon> the batteries are old
[14:15] <jcoxon> we forgot to change them
[14:15] <daveake> ah
[14:15] <daveake> whoops
[14:16] <fsphil-2I0VIM> nuts
[14:16] <costyn> noooo :(
[14:16] <jcoxon> so there might be limited radio time
[14:16] <fsphil-2I0VIM> does the spot have it's own batteries?
[14:16] <navrac_> ooops
[14:16] <jcoxon> but it seems okay right now
[14:16] <jcoxon> oh yes
[14:16] <jcoxon> SPoT has new batteties
[14:16] <fsphil-2I0VIM> phew
[14:16] <jcoxon> batteries
[14:16] <daveake> do you know how old?
[14:16] <jcoxon> i suspect 5 days off spot
[14:16] <jcoxon> daveake, could be 50%
[14:16] <G0DJA> Still hearing it here even if decodes a bit sporadic at times
[14:16] <daveake> So ~24 hours run time?
[14:16] <fsphil-2I0VIM> no sign of it here
[14:17] <ingersol> nothing here either
[14:17] <jcoxon> daveake, lets hope so
[14:17] <jcoxon> SPoT is working
[14:17] <fsphil-2I0VIM> ingersol, I think we'll beging to hear it within 30 minutes or so
[14:17] <jcoxon> last message at 14:12
[14:17] <number10_2E0DBR> andother 8k and you should hear it fsphil-2I0VIM , just before the batteries go
[14:18] <fsphil-2I0VIM> most likely lol
[14:18] <fsphil-2I0VIM> G7WAW's coordinates are 0,0
[14:18] <ingersol> that'll be good as long as it doesn't drift much further south
[14:19] <daveake> What's the prediction?
[14:19] <F6AGV> Hello, my prediction 49.002N and 0.2584 NOTRE DAME DE COURSON
[14:19] <daveake> jcoxon It got within 7km of where cloud3 splash-landed
[14:20] <fsphil-2I0VIM> daveake, it's swinging back east
[14:20] <daveake> Cool. I don't need to knock my house down then.
[14:20] <F6AGV> What is SPOT FREQUENCY please ?
[14:20] <fsphil-2I0VIM> ooh the live prediction is on
[14:21] <fsphil-2I0VIM> awww
[14:21] <F6AGV> http://alerte-radiosondes.blogspot.com/
[14:22] <fsphil-2I0VIM> spot transmits once every 30 minutes I think it was
[14:23] <G8GTZ> 434.649.060 here
[14:23] <fsphil-2I0VIM> upu's station is down to 434.648.5
[14:23] <number10_2E0DBR> I cant see you on the tracker F6AGV - are you near to F8TIW?
[14:25] <G0DJA> What is SPOT?
[14:25] <fsphil-2I0VIM> spot is a satellite tracker
[14:25] <F6AGV> NO I'm not near F8TIW
[14:25] <G0DJA> AH - OK
[14:25] <F6AGV> Yes fine,
[14:26] <cuddykid> great signal here in worcester
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[14:26] <cuddykid> decoding using yagi indoors on ground floor with surrounding buildings! :D
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[14:26] <F6AGV> what is the input to send XABEN position ?
[14:26] <G0DJA> Nothing on the tab marrked "SPoT" though
[14:27] <fsphil-2I0VIM> spot uplinks to the satellite directly
[14:27] <fsphil-2I0VIM> I don't think it can be received on the ground
[14:27] <fsphil-2I0VIM> although it probably could with the right equipment
[14:27] <cuddykid> what does "5FA0" mean?
[14:27] <navrac_> i seem to be getting the best signal when the aerial is pointing at the snow on the roof of the house - it seems the reflected signal is stronger than the direct - possibly bcause my yagi is pointing down a bit after the snow
[14:27] <G0DJA> I think it's the check sum
[14:28] <fsphil-2I0VIM> that's really weird navrac_
[14:28] <cuddykid> navrac_: I get that often due to the buildings around me
[14:28] <navrac_> checksum is the very last bit - otherwise it wouldnt be good if it doesnt change
[14:28] <cuddykid> I can't get a LOS - using reflected signal
[14:28] <fsphil-2I0VIM> I'm able to receive Astra 19.2 signals reflected from my neighbours window
[14:28] <navrac_> weird though - i wonder if ive wired theis zl up right.
[14:28] <cuddykid> yeah, G0DJA, I don't think it's the checksum
[14:29] <G0DJA> I had a bit of a play with the HI and LO settings of the filter on the TS2000 and seems to be decoding a bit better now
[14:29] <cuddykid> prediction once again bang on!
[14:29] <CovBalloon> whos bidding on the ar8000 on ebay?
[14:29] <daveake> <innocent>
[14:29] <fsphil-2I0VIM> HB3YWU is in a brilliant spot
[14:30] <jcoxon> F6AGV, do you have dl-fldigi?
[14:30] <G0DJA> cuddykid I see what you were looking at now and agree in wrong place to be the checksum
[14:31] <cuddykid> yeah, it's odd - hasn't changed for me
[14:31] <navrac_> the last 4 digits after the * are the 16 bit checksum
[14:33] <navrac_> the 5fa0 hasnt changed all flight
[14:33] <fsphil-2I0VIM> probably a status value
[14:34] <navrac_> still dont know what the 4;5 are either
[14:34] <G0DJA> The 5FA0 bit comes before the 0.8 which is just before the star in the checksum here
[14:34] <navrac_> or the 0.8
[14:34] <daveake> It's probably a status bitmap
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[14:34] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, can help
[14:35] <RocketBoy> ?
[14:35] <number10_2E0DBR> data fields
[14:36] <navrac_> no sign of float yet - just climbing - do you have a target float height jcoxon?
[14:36] <Laurenceb_> ooh
[14:36] <Laurenceb_> spot is working
[14:36] <daveake> yep :)
[14:36] <jcoxon> Laurenceb_ its been working all along
[14:37] <jcoxon> i just didn't upload the data
[14:37] <Laurenceb_> epic
[14:37] <jcoxon> navrac_, ~30km
[14:37] <Laurenceb_> how often?
[14:37] <jcoxon> 30mins
[14:37] <jcoxon> its very reliable at that rte
[14:37] <jcoxon> rate*
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[14:45] <jcoxon> hmmm we've had good spot tx's
[14:45] <jcoxon> but nothing for 40mins
[14:45] <jcoxon> a bit worrying
[14:46] <G0DJA> 19691m that time!
[14:46] <number10_2E0DBR> are you using the internal GPS or spoofing the NMEA?
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[14:46] <jcoxon> spoofing
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[14:48] <G0DJA> What does the SPoT transmit?
[14:48] <jcoxon> G0DJA, its a satelitte messenger
[14:49] <jcoxon> to the globalstar network
[14:49] <G0DJA> OK so unlikely to be much use looking for it from here then?
[14:49] <jcoxon> yeah
[14:49] <jcoxon> my only concern is the cold
[14:49] <jcoxon> we'll just have to see
[14:50] <SamSilver_> G0DJA: > http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=102
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[14:51] <G0DJA> Thanks for the link SamSilver_
[14:51] <jcoxon> G0DJA, its a bit adapted
[14:51] <jcoxon> as it doesn't work too well at altitude :-)
[14:51] <jcoxon> phew
[14:51] <jcoxon> must of struggled to get a lock
[14:52] <G0DJA> I guess they didn't imagine anone would tie one to a baloon and send it up 20,000m...
[14:53] <jcoxon> yeah
[14:53] <jcoxon> so i've added a ublox gps
[14:53] <jcoxon> and also have an arduino controlling when to transmit
[14:54] <G0DJA> Still getting decodes at 335km away!
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[14:54] <jcoxon> great
[14:55] <costyn> jcoxon: do you have some french listeners lined up?
[14:55] <G0DJA> Wish I haddn't blown up the preamp now - HI
[14:55] <jcoxon> costyn, ummm i've contacted a few
[14:55] <jcoxon> we've got time
[14:56] <costyn> ok :)
[14:58] <G0DJA> It's still climbing - what's the expected ceiling?
[14:58] <jcoxon> 33km perhaps
[14:58] <jcoxon> either it'll float or it'll go very very high and burst
[14:58] <AndroUser> Fldigi is decoding, the box goes green, but the individual boxes aren't being filled in. Ideas?
[14:58] <Laurenceb_> should be fun
[14:59] <jcoxon> AndroUser, have you pressed autoconfigure after selecting XABEN?
[15:00] <AndroUser> Yes, then manually changed the shift
[15:00] <gonzo___> WHAT'S THE FREQS FOR Xaben and spot?
[15:00] <jcoxon> gonzo___, 434.650
[15:00] <gonzo___> and which would be the most benificial for me to rx?
[15:00] <jcoxon> spot is a sat transmitter
[15:01] <gonzo___> ok, will go 343.9
[15:01] <jcoxon> you can only rx xaben
[15:01] <daveake> spot is a spot, not a UF Tx
[15:01] <daveake> *UHF
[15:01] <gonzo___> typo! meant 434.650
[15:03] <G0DJA> Considering cross polarised it's still a good signal here!
[15:03] <navrac_> I've got to go out for couple of hours, will leave it on auto - but there is local qrm very close so if it drifts i my loose it
[15:03] <chelmiwest> Hi, what is the speed transmission of Xaben ? impossible t ostart dl digi in hab mode, error memory written in the first screen config wizard
[15:03] <navrac_> g0dja - you cn cover for me then!
[15:04] <LazyL-M0LEP> AndroUser: Go to Configure -> DL Client -> Payload and re-enter the field numbers (3,4,5,6) there. For some reason, when you change the RTTY settings it goes and sets those fields to zero.
[15:04] <jcoxon> chelmiwest, its 50baud
[15:04] <costyn> chelmiwest: you started dl-fldigi with -hab option right?
[15:04] <jcoxon> you can also start it with out the hab
[15:04] <jcoxon> not so auto configurable but will work
[15:05] <daveake> 12 listeners now
[15:06] <G0DJA> navrac_ have to nip down the supermarket for a few things before they close as well!
[15:07] <G0DJA> And still it climbs!
[15:07] <Laurenceb_> its swarming with basestations
[15:08] <chelmiwest> I re install the dl-fldigi, when i start in hab mode i have a error, after impossible to start dl-fldigi in hab mode or not ??? i have fldigi installed on my pc (xp) and it's work but i dont have decoding data
[15:08] <jcoxon> oh ii know
[15:08] <jcoxon> chelmiwest, i'd delete the dl-fldigi config files
[15:08] <jcoxon> they are causing it to crash
[15:08] <jcoxon> Windows XP - go to your hard drive, 'Documents and Settings' then 'Administrator' or your username and it'll be a file called 'dl-fldigi.files' and also 'NBEMS.files'
[15:10] <jcoxon> then re open dl-fldigi
[15:11] <daveake> jcoxon Do you know why the temperature is changing so much - up to 4 degrees between consecutive sentences? Sensor being warmed by the sun as the payload rotates?
[15:11] <chelmiwest> yes i see this files
[15:11] <jcoxon> could be
[15:11] <jcoxon> its the sensor on the bmp085 so can't vouch for its accuracy
[15:11] <daveake> ok
[15:12] <daveake> I've only used that once, and that was for internal measurement
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[15:14] <chelmiwest> Yes, thank's a lot, it's work :)
[15:14] <jcoxon> great
[15:14] <G0DJA> Is the temperature the number after the height data?
[15:15] <daveake> yes
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[15:15] <G0DJA> Thanks
[15:16] <jcoxon> hooray - we've got a french station uploading
[15:16] <jcoxon> F1SRC
[15:16] <daveake> That will be handy later
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[15:18] <costyn> jcoxon: i don't see F1SRC on the map, or does he not have his coord's correct?
[15:18] <jcoxon> i suspect so
[15:19] <jcoxon> hows the signal, any drop suggesting the batteries are struggling?
[15:20] <daveake> Fine.
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[15:20] <costyn> F1SRC is at 0,0 :)
[15:20] <daveake> Only drop I had was when my receiver batteries gave out :p
[15:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> F1SRC is in in87km
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[15:23] <Dutch-Mill> costyn : do you pick u a signal?
[15:23] <jcoxon> hi F5APQ
[15:24] <costyn> Dutch-Mill: no, but I only have a small antenna indoors at ground-level, so not much chance. no luck hooking up the antenna on the roof yet; after all the snow goes away I'll have another go
[15:24] <gonzo___> dropping quickly, burst?
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[15:25] <Upu-2E0UPU> back
[15:25] <Upu-2E0UPU> still up jolly good :)
[15:25] <daveake> still going up
[15:25] <gonzo___> ah, nope just gone up again
[15:25] <jcoxon> gonzo___, really?
[15:25] <number10_2E0DBR> you have been doing so well while you were out Upu-2E0UPU
[15:25] <jcoxon> phew
[15:26] <Upu-2E0UPU> lol
[15:26] <daveake> last 6 have all been up
[15:26] <number10_2E0DBR> :)
[15:26] <daveake> I didn't see a drop
[15:26] <LazyL-M0LEP> It went very quiet just then...
[15:27] <gonzo___> hehe, nope, I was reading the decimals of the long, not the alt! Silly boy
[15:27] <daveake> :)
[15:27] <Laurenceb_> stop trolling
[15:27] <gonzo___> can't help myself
[15:27] <daveake> When chasing buzz1 I was watching the pressure reading by mistake
[15:27] <daveake> thought it was coming down
[15:27] <number10_2E0DBR> was that blood pressure daveake ?
[15:28] <daveake> best not speak about my BP :P
[15:28] <F6AGV> NEW PREDICTION 49.303 N 0.1868 E North PONT L'EVEQUE
[15:28] <Onlineradio> F1SRC - QTH to Quiberon Ouest France
[15:28] <Laurenceb_> be interesting to correlate air pressure rate with altitude rate
[15:28] <F6AGV> ça fait loin QUIBERON ?
[15:28] <Laurenceb_> and see the source of rate oscillations
[15:29] <F6AGV> OK relation is p = po . exp (-h/7.96)
[15:29] <Laurenceb_> something like that yes
[15:29] <RocketBoy> Laurenceb: yeah I hope the sensor is good enough - just a bmp085
[15:29] <Upu-2E0UPU> sounds weak as hell here but still decoding
[15:29] <F6AGV> it's correct !
[15:29] <Laurenceb_> RocketBoy: i suspect its bouyancy oscillations
[15:30] <Laurenceb_> not intertia gravity waves
[15:30] <Laurenceb_> as the period is too far off
[15:30] <RocketBoy> yeah - I have heard that said - but they don't seem to damp
[15:30] <F6AGV> tu me copies Jacques APQ ?
[15:30] <Upu-2E0UPU> RocketBoy what does Parse 0run mean ?
[15:30] <LazyL-M0LEP> Another fade.
[15:30] <Upu-2E0UPU> no fade here
[15:31] <RocketBoy> its a bit like the apollo processor - just ran out of processing power at that instant
[15:31] <gonzo___> 1202
[15:31] <Upu-2E0UPU> lol awesome what microcontroller do you have in there ?
[15:31] <LazyL-M0LEP> Seems to be going through fades every few minutes here.
[15:31] <daveake> So not quite "Houston we have a problem" :)
[15:31] <gonzo___> still strong here
[15:32] <RocketBoy> its doing a load of floating point calculations at the same time - and sometimes they over-run their timeslot
[15:32] <Upu-2E0UPU> its about this point I could do with a Yagi
[15:32] <daveake> exactly like Apollo then
[15:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> anyone know a program that can make a circle map, showing the LOS at say 35km alt ?
[15:32] <Laurenceb_> its running an RTOS?
[15:32] <gonzo___> never used fp calcs. Never seen a need that I could not hard code my way througfh
[15:33] Action: Laurenceb_ is running an extended kalman filter with FP
[15:33] <LazyL-M0LEP> Could just bee caused by trees, as my signal path is through the woods and over the brow of the hill out back.
[15:34] <RocketBoy> Laurenceb_: yeah its my own - non pre-emptive
[15:34] <Laurenceb_> nice
[15:34] <Laurenceb_> on pic?
[15:34] <RocketBoy> yea
[15:34] <RocketBoy> yaeh
[15:34] <Laurenceb_> cool
[15:34] Action: Laurenceb_ uses stm32 for everything now :D
[15:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> Arduino under Windows hah
[15:35] <F6AGV> F5APQ 145.550 ?
[15:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> oh wait thats not cool
[15:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> still decoding lovely here
[15:35] <RocketBoy> its quite simple - but its really made the code easier to change - I have about 5 simultanious tasj
[15:35] <RocketBoy> tasks
[15:35] <RocketBoy> quasi-simultanious that is
[15:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> does your payload predict where its going to land or is that Bello ?
[15:36] <chelmiwest> quit
[15:36] <chelmiwest> exit
[15:36] <F6AGV> NEW PREDICTION 49.303 N 0.1868 E North PONT L'EVEQUE
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[15:36] <RocketBoy> Upu-2E0UPU: mine - its at the end of the transmit strings
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[15:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> ah yes I see it
[15:36] <Laurenceb_> 14 receivers
[15:37] <Laurenceb_> wow
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[15:37] <RocketBoy> thats the landing spot if the balloon burst at that time
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[15:38] <jcoxon> hi F1SRC, thank you for tracking, if you add your stations coordinates to the operater details on dl-fldigi it'll plot you on the map
[15:38] <Upu-2E0UPU> is the SPOT working ?
[15:38] <F1SRC> Hello, i send data but my map position is not good, sorry, i chack my dl-fldigi my position is good, if you have a idea, thanks'
[15:38] <jcoxon> Upu-2E0UPU, yup
[15:38] <jcoxon> F1SRC, is it decimal? DD.ddd?
[15:38] <jcoxon> Upu-2E0UPU, every 30mins
[15:38] <jcoxon> roughly
[15:38] <Upu-2E0UPU> ok
[15:38] <Upu-2E0UPU> F1SRC = 0,0
[15:39] <jcoxon> there can be delays
[15:39] <F1SRC> Yes, DD.dddd
[15:39] <Upu-2E0UPU> F1SRC Configure -> Operator -> Format is :
[15:39] <Upu-2E0UPU> 53.752496
[15:39] <Upu-2E0UPU> -1.817875
[15:39] <Upu-2E0UPU> for example
[15:40] <Upu-2E0UPU> check the map thats ace all those receivers
[15:40] <Upu-2E0UPU> F1SRC : XABEN,1053,15:39:09,50.08842,-0.05285,26219,-28.3,16.26,4;5;5FA0;1.0*5B4E
[15:40] <Upu-2E0UPU> wrong line 1 sec
[15:41] <F1SRC> Yes i have 47.5198 & -3.1267 in dl.fldigi
[15:41] <jcoxon> F1SRC, now restart dl-fldigi
[15:42] <F1SRC> I just restart the soft
[15:42] <number10_2E0DBR> you will be on map soon F1SRC : ZZ,F1SRC,2012-02-12 15:42:02,47.519800,-3.126700,FT-847,VERTICALE 2X 5/8EME,r115,XABEN
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[15:44] <jcoxon> yeah now just give it time to update everything
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[15:47] <CovBalloon> has anyone used a slow scan tv to send pictures back from the balloon in flight?
[15:49] <costyn> CovBalloon: yes, Tim Zaman
[15:49] <number10_2E0DBR> CovBalloon: fsphil-2I0VIM has It was great fun
[15:50] <CovBalloon> Do you have any example of the recieved pictures?
[15:50] <F1SRC> Now i'm in the real position on the map ;)
[15:50] <costyn> CovBalloon: http://www.timzaman.nl/?page_id=1106&lang=en
[15:51] <Upu-2E0UPU> and fsphil CovBalloon
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[15:51] <number10_2E0DBR> CovBalloon: there are some on http://www.flickr.com/photos/fsphil/
[15:52] <Upu-2E0UPU> Welcome aboard F1SRC :)
[15:54] <esarlls3> If KT5TK-11 is alive, when will it be within range of Europe/Africa stations?
[15:54] <Upu-2E0UPU> 15 listeners
[15:54] <Upu-2E0UPU> esarlls3 2 days probably
[15:54] <pjm> i can copy it here in Dorset
[15:55] <F1SRC> The signal is poor now for me in IN87KM, some data is not valid
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[15:55] <Upu-2E0UPU> adjust the shift down from standard 425 to about 355 might help F1SRC
[15:55] <esarlls3> Thanks & 73 de KT5YZ
[15:55] <fsphil-2I0VIM> what is the current dial frequency?
[15:56] <Upu-2E0UPU> 434.649.09
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[15:56] <fsphil-2I0VIM> ta
[15:56] <fsphil-2I0VIM> still too low for me
[15:56] <fsphil-2I0VIM> unlikely to get much better :)
[15:56] <Upu-2E0UPU> well you better get it soon :)
[15:57] <fsphil-2I0VIM> always worth trying though :)
[15:57] <NigelMoby> where abouts is it?
[15:57] <Upu-2E0UPU> over the channel
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[15:57] <Upu-2E0UPU> good to have some receivers in France :)
[15:57] <fsphil-2I0VIM> 13 receiver stations!
[15:57] <fsphil-2I0VIM> 14!
[15:58] <fsphil-2I0VIM> that's a lovely curve it's doing
[15:58] <F6BAZ> gug evening all's !
[15:58] <fsphil-2I0VIM> hiya F6BAZ
[15:58] <Upu-2E0UPU> bonsoir F6AGV
[15:58] <fsphil-2I0VIM> look at that map, I've never seen as many stations
[15:58] <NickB1> yay receiving !
[15:58] <F1SRC> To Upu-2E0UPU i change the shift to 355, the line with the data is red, signal is not very good
[15:59] <Upu-2E0UPU> if its red sounds like input is too high dial it back a little
[15:59] <F6BAZ> nice flight ...
[16:00] <fsphil-2I0VIM> so far!
[16:00] <fsphil-2I0VIM> lets hope it floats
[16:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> http://imagebin.org/198553 F1SRC
[16:00] <F1SRC> I just adjust, it's green now
[16:01] <fsphil-2I0VIM> The horizon circle is moving away from me
[16:01] <fsphil-2I0VIM> there's no chance I'll receive this one :)
[16:02] <Upu-2E0UPU> you're getting packets F1SRC :)
[16:03] <costyn> 15 listeners
[16:03] <fsphil-2I0VIM> wow
[16:03] <Laurenceb_> below 1KPa
[16:04] <costyn> can this one be marked down as 'most tracked ukhas flight' yet? :)
[16:04] <fsphil-2I0VIM> number10_2E0DBR, those images me and Tim did where with the digital SSDV - jcoxon and a few others have done analogue sstv too though
[16:04] <fsphil-2I0VIM> CovBalloon ^^
[16:05] <Upu-2E0UPU> thanks for all coming out and taking the time to listen everyone :)
[16:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> if it flots, where will it go, due east or?
[16:05] <Upu-2E0UPU> horzion is moving away from me now
[16:05] <Upu-2E0UPU> sec OZ1SKY_Brian checking
[16:06] <Upu-2E0UPU> http://nstar.org/GFS/10mb/10mb.012.png
[16:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thanks
[16:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> you lost me there, lol
[16:06] <Upu-2E0UPU> Eastern Europe I'm guessing
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[16:06] <Upu-2E0UPU> thats the wind patterns at about 28km ? Something like that
[16:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> its coming your way anyway so don't go out :)
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[16:07] <RocketBoy> i detect a slowing of ascent rate
[16:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu-2E0UPU: well looks like its going east and abit south east, so not going to come into range here, if that happens
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[16:08] <Upu-2E0UPU> you might just get it
[16:08] <jcoxon> i think it'll go too south for OZ1SKY_Brian
[16:08] <Laurenceb_> interesting
[16:08] <Laurenceb_> pressure is increasing
[16:08] <jcoxon> that temp sensor is at its limit
[16:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu-2E0UPU: i hope so, havent heard any of the flights since apex alpha
[16:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon: i think so too
[16:09] <G0DJA> Getting series of good decodes now
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[16:11] <jcoxon> M0EYT has its location quite wrong :-p
[16:11] <Upu-2E0UPU> impressive
[16:11] <gonzo___> he's not far from me, think his lat is a bit out
[16:12] <F1SRC> The frequency have change (down)
[16:12] <Upu-2E0UPU> fading a little here
[16:12] <costyn> so the bmp085 doesn't do much good at these altitudes?
[16:12] <daveake> Got meeself a collinear :)
[16:12] <SpeedEvil> The prediction is staying pretty constant.
[16:12] <fsphil-2I0VIM> nice daveake. which one?
[16:13] <daveake> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Watson-W-300-2m-70cm-BASE-VERTICAL-Antenna-/300660186934?pt=UK_ConsumerElectronics_SpecialistRadioEquipment_SM&hash=item4600be5f36&autorefresh=true&autorefresh=true#ht_3014wt_1396
[16:13] <SpeedEvil> Hmm - rate has dropped. Poor signal to noise. Crazy Ivan!
[16:13] <Upu-2E0UPU> thats the big brother of mine
[16:13] <fsphil-2I0VIM> good price
[16:13] <daveake> Yeah I'd have gotten a smaller one, but that came up with few bidders and good price
[16:13] <Upu-2E0UPU> thats a beast
[16:14] <Upu-2E0UPU> 3.1m :)
[16:14] <daveake> Yep
[16:14] <Upu-2E0UPU> mines 1/2 that
[16:14] <LazyL-M0LEP> Meh. Signal's mixed up with some local QRM at the moment here.
[16:14] Action: SpeedEvil idly wonders what frequency all of these 'energy monitors' run at.
[16:14] <F1SRC> The frequency down again
[16:14] <Upu-2E0UPU> concur with F1SRC
[16:14] <Laurenceb_> looks like it might be heading for a float
[16:14] <fsphil-2I0VIM> batteries failing?
[16:14] <SpeedEvil> It does look kinda floaty
[16:14] <daveake> I have a narrow interference band now midway between the 2 lines
[16:15] <jcoxon> uh oh if batteries are failing
[16:16] <Upu-2E0UPU> would there be any reason the batteries would be failing ?
[16:16] <jcoxon> yes
[16:16] <Upu-2E0UPU> whats the tested run time ?
[16:16] <RocketBoy> yep - they went fresh
[16:16] <jcoxon> as we forgot to change them
[16:16] <Upu-2E0UPU> oh
[16:16] <jcoxon> spot is fresh
[16:16] <jcoxon> :-(
[16:16] <Upu-2E0UPU> frequency is dropping a little but nothing drifty
[16:16] <RocketBoy> is the frequency narrowing?
[16:17] <daveake> no
[16:17] <costyn> jcoxon: does spot give altitude ?
[16:17] <SpeedEvil> No costyn
[16:17] <jcoxon> costyn, not in its current form
[16:17] <Upu-2E0UPU> no consistent 355Hz
[16:17] <costyn> hmm too bad
[16:17] <fsphil-2I0VIM> 30km
[16:17] <Upu-2E0UPU> still decoding fine
[16:17] <G0DJA> Still decoding at 355 here and freq dropped to 434.649.75 now
[16:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no decodes from the HB3 ?
[16:17] <RocketBoy> narrowing is an indicator of reduced voltage
[16:17] <jcoxon> SPoT is still working
[16:17] <jcoxon> just slow update to map
[16:18] <jcoxon> will need to squeeze as much data out of XABEN
[16:18] <costyn> OZ1SKY_Brian: is HB3YWU someone you know?
[16:18] <Upu-2E0UPU> just dropping frequency ever so slowly
[16:18] <jcoxon> further cooling perhaps
[16:18] <jcoxon> temp is external
[16:19] <costyn> surprisingly warm
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> pressure just went up
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> 50mb
[16:19] <RocketBoy> what does it say pressure: 947.0000000000001 Pa?
[16:19] <jcoxon> 30km
[16:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> costyn: no i dont
[16:19] <Laurenceb_> interesting
[16:19] <Upu-2E0UPU> 1011 Pa
[16:19] <jcoxon> float?
[16:19] <Laurenceb_> what does that tell us...
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[16:19] <RocketBoy> its a conversion error - the output is fixed 2 dp
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> Odd
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> ah
[16:20] <Laurenceb_> looks like gravity waves?
[16:20] <jcoxon> 113 people
[16:20] <Upu-2E0UPU> and check the number of listeners :) You started all this jcoxon :)
[16:20] <fsphil-2I0VIM> it's a really crowded map
[16:20] <F1SRC> I have always data with green line, but no information in date, lat, long, alt
[16:21] <Upu-2E0UPU> ok so if the BMP085 is to be believed its at 10mb
[16:21] <Upu-2E0UPU> http://nstar.org/GFS/10mb/10mb.012.png
[16:21] <Upu-2E0UPU> F1SRC can we get a screen shot ?
[16:21] <fsphil-2I0VIM> you may not have pressed the "Autoconfigure" button F1SRC
[16:21] <G0DJA> What does the green circle on the map represent?
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> G0DJA: the radio horizon
[16:21] <jcoxon> okay i have an issue
[16:21] <jcoxon> i have to drive home
[16:21] <jcoxon> thats 2 hours
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> oops
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> blue is horizon
[16:21] <jcoxon> now when ever i drive home
[16:21] <jcoxon> something happens
[16:21] <fsphil-2I0VIM> lol
[16:21] <fsphil-2I0VIM> this is true
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> green is 5 degree altitude.
[16:22] <Upu-2E0UPU> lol
[16:22] <Upu-2E0UPU> drive home quicker then :)
[16:22] <G0DJA> Thought so, but it's wrong LOL
[16:22] <jcoxon> SPoT updated
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> SPoT is nice for a backup.
[16:23] <Upu-2E0UPU> beats GSM :)
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> Indeed!
[16:23] <jcoxon> its not cheap
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> There is that.
[16:23] <costyn> also in price i believe
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> Though how many flights has it done?
[16:23] <jcoxon> this is its second
[16:23] <jcoxon> and last
[16:24] <SpeedEvil> ah
[16:24] <jcoxon> hehe
[16:24] <Laurenceb_> wtf
[16:24] <Laurenceb_> pressure increased
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[16:24] <NickB1> damn always messing up in the checksum
[16:24] <Laurenceb_> i think sensor doesnt like the low temp
[16:24] <SpeedEvil> Pressure looks like bollocks.
[16:24] <F1SRC> i have click on autoconfig it's ok
[16:24] <SpeedEvil> Random huge noise.
[16:24] <Laurenceb_> wh
[16:25] <Laurenceb_> we've seen this before
[16:25] <NickB1> yes
[16:25] <daveake> ReAscending
[16:25] <NickB1> valid string :D
[16:25] <Laurenceb_> <1Kpa the bmp085 screws up
[16:25] <jcoxon> as it approaches float it'll do this
[16:25] <G0DJA> Signal strength dropping here
[16:26] <jcoxon> so
[16:26] <jcoxon> will someone contact me if something goes wrong
[16:26] <daveake> Happy to do that
[16:26] <G0DJA> Nice decode - says "Decending"
[16:26] <F6BAZ> y a t-il un suivi en APRS ? svp
[16:26] <cuddykid> this is a great flight :D
[16:26] <Upu-2E0UPU> floating..
[16:26] <SpeedEvil> ~10 mins till it hits Dieppe?
[16:27] <Upu-2E0UPU> Retuned 434.648.50
[16:27] <G0DJA> Now ReAscending!
[16:27] <SpeedEvil> I guess it's not going to burst immediately.
[16:27] <jcoxon> bbl
[16:27] <f4cqa> avez vous la position ?
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[16:27] <Upu-2E0UPU> f4cqa 49.94524,0.88281
[16:27] <SpeedEvil> Dieppe
[16:27] <SpeedEvil> ~
[16:27] <f4cqa> thanks
[16:28] <Upu-2E0UPU> f4cqa www.spacenear.us/tracker
[16:28] <SpeedEvil> The spray of green is most pretty :)
[16:28] <Upu-2E0UPU> fsphil no packets for you today
[16:28] <G0DJA> Signal back up again now
[16:28] <F1SRC> Signal is very poor for me, the decoding is not possible now
[16:29] <NickB1> very good signal now
[16:30] <Upu-2E0UPU> coming towards you NickB1
[16:30] <G0DJA> 396.3km away
[16:30] <F1SRC> OK again, the 5/8e verticale antenna is not perfect
[16:31] <Upu-2E0UPU> 465km here
[16:31] <daveake> I can only dream of such distances :-). Till I get that beast anyway :p
[16:32] <number10_2E0DBR> thats the mansion on the top of that hill ;)
[16:32] Action: daveake looks for a house/hill upgrade
[16:32] <number10_2E0DBR> longer pole required daveake aswell
[16:32] <G0DJA> I do live on top of a hill, that's true
[16:32] <fsphil-2I0VIM> yea Upu-2E0UPU, unless there's a freak meteor trail or somethin' :)
[16:33] <Upu-2E0UPU> yeah I love hills :)
[16:33] <Upu-2E0UPU> the one I'm on not the ones that are between me and fsphil
[16:33] <daveake> Better pole, antenna, receiver all ordered number10_2E0DBR, as you know :)
[16:33] <fsphil-2I0VIM> except that one that blocks my signals to your place
[16:33] <Upu-2E0UPU> see above :)
[16:33] <fsphil-2I0VIM> lol
[16:33] <number10_2E0DBR> :)
[16:34] <fsphil-2I0VIM> oh, over 31km
[16:34] <fsphil-2I0VIM> good altitude considering the slow ascent
[16:34] <G0DJA> Will it make it to 400km?
[16:34] <Upu-2E0UPU> aye if it bursts now prediction is Rouen
[16:34] <fsphil-2I0VIM> I thought it might have floated lower than this
[16:34] <G0DJA> Yes! 400.2 km
[16:34] <daveake> Yeah. Ascent beginning to slow down very gradually
[16:35] <gb73d> whats the best day to try for the texas balloon ?
[16:35] Nick change: fsphil-2I0VIM -> fsphil-laptop
[16:35] <fsphil-laptop> the last trans-atlantic flight took a few days
[16:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> hey gb73d the last one took 2 days to cross to the Azores I believe
[16:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> but I suspect its dead as it stop transmitting pretty early into the flight
[16:36] <gb73d> shame
[16:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> load average: 2.76, 2.44, 1.74
[16:36] <gb73d> i looked at it on aprs this am
[16:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> spacenear.us busy today :)
[16:36] <gb73d> was over gulf of mex
[16:36] <SpeedEvil> Yay - dry land!
[16:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> yeah no update since midnight GMT
[16:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> vive la france!
[16:37] <gb73d> oh well next time
[16:37] <Upu-2E0UPU> yeah a shame but sure there will be more attempts
[16:39] <daveake> Ascent slowing now
[16:39] <Upu-2E0UPU> floating
[16:40] <Upu-2E0UPU> perfect float :)
[16:40] <Upu-2E0UPU> for a moment or twp :)
[16:40] <G0DJA> In the words of the shipping forcast "rising more slowly" ;-)
[16:40] <Upu-2E0UPU> can't make its mind up
[16:41] <gonzo___> thought that was the words of the actress?
[16:42] <G0DJA> What's the power of the TX on full batteries?
[16:42] <RocketBoy> 10mw
[16:43] <G0DJA> Not bad - over 400km on less than 10mW !!
[16:43] <Upu-2E0UPU> OZ1SKY_Brian has the record, 760km or something
[16:43] <RocketBoy> yeah - the record is about 800km
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[16:44] <Upu-2E0UPU> edging close to 500km from here now
[16:44] <G0DJA> That's good going - would definately need vertical polarised antenna and a preamp for that
[16:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu-2E0UPU: 776.5km :-)
[16:44] <Upu-2E0UPU> yeah yeah :)
[16:44] <daveake> :)
[16:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu-2E0UPU: sorry :)
[16:45] <Upu-2E0UPU> I got 756km G0DJA on a Watson W-50 Colinear
[16:45] <Upu-2E0UPU> about 10 mins before OZ1SKY_Brian showed up :)
[16:45] Action: fsphil-laptop mumbles something about 560km being good enough...
[16:45] <Upu-2E0UPU> no preamps on mine
[16:46] <fsphil-laptop> it goes to show that the biggest limit is not receiver power, but geography
[16:46] <fsphil-laptop> once the earth gets in the way, nothing will help
[16:46] <Upu-2E0UPU> yep
[16:46] <fsphil-laptop> still, I'd prefer if we could use the 25mw modules :)
[16:46] <Laurenceb_> down
[16:46] <daveake> float again
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[16:46] <G0DJA> I take it your not in the town centre then ? ;-)
[16:46] <Laurenceb_> -ive velocity
[16:46] <NigelMoby> bulldozers... they help :)
[16:46] <G0DJA> your = you're
[16:46] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[16:47] <Upu-2E0UPU> not a burst though
[16:47] <number10_2E0DBR> nice curve on the Xaben track ;)
[16:47] <Laurenceb_> sunset soon
[16:47] <Upu-2E0UPU> I'm on a hill 300 meters up :)
[16:47] <NigelMoby> Meh
[16:47] Action: NigelMoby gets c4
[16:47] Action: fsphil-laptop is 80m asl, in the middle of a town :)
[16:48] <gonzo___> gonzo is down in a hole in the ground
[16:48] <G0DJA> Starting to drift up in freq again now
[16:48] <fsphil-laptop> that'd be good for HF though gonzo___?
[16:48] <Laurenceb_> a bit hot up there
[16:48] <NigelMoby> lol I'm not far off gonzo, 17m asl in the city center
[16:48] <Upu-2E0UPU> doesn't HF just go directly through the center of the earth ?
[16:49] <G0DJA> About 160m ASL here
[16:49] <SpeedEvil> you will get diffraction from grazing angles on the sea
[16:50] <Upu-2E0UPU> think the BMP085 has given up
[16:51] <G0DJA> Looks like heading for Amiens
[16:51] <F1SRC> What is the burst alt ?
[16:51] <costyn> whats the dial freq atm? i think I hear a carrier at 434.650? no signal tho
[16:51] <Upu-2E0UPU> F1SRC its floating so not sure
[16:51] <Upu-2E0UPU> 434.648.50
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[16:52] <F1SRC> Ok,
[16:52] <G0DJA> costyn I'm tuned to 434.649.42 but signal about +1400Hz now
[16:52] <Upu-2E0UPU> for a Hwoyee 1600g balloon at an ascent rate of 5m/s its normally 36,000-38,000 ish
[16:53] <Upu-2E0UPU> what this one is anyones guess
[16:53] <fsphil-laptop> this looks to float well below that
[16:53] <G0DJA> Hate to retune when a nice series of decodes coming in - HI
[16:53] <fsphil-laptop> that's a good sign
[16:53] <Upu-2E0UPU> I don't think we have an accurate model of the Hwoyee 1600g under these conditions
[16:53] <Upu-2E0UPU> someone correct me if I'm wrong
[16:53] <RocketBoy> no model that o
[16:53] <RocketBoy> im aware of
[16:54] <costyn> does a magmount antenna need a large metal surface to act as groundplane?
[16:55] <fsphil-laptop> ideally
[16:55] <RocketBoy> depends on the antenna
[16:55] <G0DJA> It helps
[16:55] <RocketBoy> 5/8 whips don't need much
[16:56] <G0DJA> It's getting warmer up there
[16:56] <RocketBoy> but a 1/4 wave will ideally need about 1/2wavelength square - or bigger
[16:56] <F1SRC> Signal very very poor for me, the meteo change here the rain now
[16:57] <costyn> thanks; will play around a bit
[16:57] <Upu-2E0UPU> still in range F1SRC for a bit, thanks for trying :)
[16:57] <F1SRC> The 1/4 antenna is good antenna for sat and balloon when the alt is high, with my 5/8e now is bad
[16:57] <fsphil-laptop> interesting, I find rain or thick cloud weakens the signal too
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[16:57] <G0DJA> Seems to be getting a bit louder here again
[16:58] <Upu-2E0UPU> yeah its quite strong and I'm going to have to retune shortly
[16:58] <Upu-2E0UPU> frequency is edging up again
[16:58] <fsphil-laptop> Upu-2E0UPU, I left the auto-tuning on
[16:58] <Upu-2E0UPU> oh ok
[16:58] <fsphil-laptop> also the squelsh was on
[16:58] <Upu-2E0UPU> what does that do ? doesn't seem to do what it does on the radio
[16:59] <fsphil-laptop> it stops passing data to the modem if it thinks the signal is too weak
[16:59] <Upu-2E0UPU> oh ok
[16:59] <fsphil-laptop> same idea
[16:59] <Upu-2E0UPU> not want
[16:59] <fsphil-laptop> nope
[16:59] <Upu-2E0UPU> yeah AFC just retuned 434.649.00
[16:59] <fsphil-laptop> love it :)
[17:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> didn't even loose the packet
[17:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> that your code ?
[17:00] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[17:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> have a cookie
[17:00] <fsphil-laptop> though you where lucky, it usually does drop a character or two
[17:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> it lost one of the $'s
[17:00] <fsphil-laptop> ah perfect
[17:00] <LazyL-M0LEP> Yeah. Usually lose a line when I have to make adjustments.
[17:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> Distance 500km
[17:01] <LazyL-M0LEP> Mind, at the moment I've got some QRM splat on top of the RTTY
[17:01] <G0DJA> Yes so do I which is why avoid retuning
[17:02] <Upu-2E0UPU> XABEN has 6 $'s you can be quick :)
[17:02] <Laurenceb_> sunset coming up soon
[17:02] <LazyL-M0LEP> Descending.... Hmmm...
[17:02] <G0DJA> Seems to be coming down a bit
[17:03] <Upu-2E0UPU> whats sunset time Laurenceb ?
[17:03] <fsphil-laptop> this seems to happen with floaters
[17:03] <fsphil-laptop> they oscillate
[17:03] <Laurenceb_> hard to say - its at altitude
[17:03] <Laurenceb_> http://www.daylightmap.com/index.php
[17:04] <G0DJA> I presume it has a parachute - wouldn't want to be under that from 30km up!
[17:05] <LazyL-M0LEP> Yep. ;)
[17:05] <Upu-2E0UPU> it'll have a parachute
[17:06] <RocketBoy> don't sunset is a good 1/2 hour later than on the ground - its like being 500Km west
[17:06] <Upu-2E0UPU> before 18:00 probably then
[17:07] <fsphil-laptop> wouldn't it be the same distance as the radio horizon?
[17:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> hey if this does float on
[17:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> how long do the batteries in the spot last ?
[17:07] <fsphil-laptop> 5 days I think jcoxon said
[17:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> I'd have love to know where Apex Alpha ended up
[17:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> super :)
[17:07] <Upu-2E0UPU> go Hwoyee go Hwoyee
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[17:08] <fsphil-laptop> 31771m altitude
[17:08] <fsphil-laptop> Hwoyee, I can never remember how to spell that
[17:08] <fsphil-laptop> it's descending quite quickly
[17:09] <NickB1> finally know that my ft817 is in good condition
[17:09] <RocketBoy> fsphil: yeah same as radio horizen
[17:09] <fsphil-laptop> this happened apex to though
[17:09] <fsphil-laptop> NickB1, aah you got it?
[17:09] <NickB1> bought it 2nd hand so
[17:09] <NickB1> you never know
[17:10] <fsphil-laptop> yea, a lot of amateurs like to 'tweak'
[17:10] <NickB1> but the guy seemed ok
[17:10] <Upu-2E0UPU> G0DJA you at 500km yet ?
[17:10] <G0DJA> You'll have to forget to change the batteries more often!
[17:10] <NickB1> he built a 1kw tube amp :)
[17:10] <G0DJA> 447.4km at the moment
[17:11] <Upu-2E0UPU> you'll get 500km :)
[17:11] <daveake> Well I was happy to go over 300km :p
[17:11] <fsphil-laptop> radio horizon is well away from me now :) pesky planet
[17:11] Action: fsphil-laptop goes to find his Explosive Space Modulator
[17:11] <daveake> *fsphil joins the Flat Earth Society
[17:12] <RocketBoy> G0DJA: ther transmitter is running off the regulated line - so should get the full output till the batteries start to go
[17:12] <fsphil-laptop> wouldn't it be much simpler... flat earth means only one timezone :)
[17:12] <G0DJA> 450.6km
[17:13] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: in a flat earth, would there still be 2 sides to the earth? if it's a flat square/disk spining along one axis?
[17:13] <fsphil-laptop> nah, all the people on the other side would fall off
[17:14] <gonzo___> The underside rthere are four elephants on the back of a giant turtle
[17:14] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: so no day and night?
[17:14] <gonzo___> no reason why the sun can't move
[17:14] <costyn> 16 listeners
[17:14] <fsphil-laptop> yea, the sun and the moon orbit the earth
[17:15] <G0DJA> Signal dropping again
[17:15] <fsphil-laptop> sure we'd have to adjust physics a bit
[17:16] <daveake> Well if we're doing that, why not just have the radio waves go round corners
[17:16] <fsphil-laptop> ooh
[17:17] <fsphil-laptop> I'd like to make neutrinos detectable, but still able to travel through everything
[17:17] <daveake> I'd like to make Jedward impossible
[17:17] <Upu-2E0UPU> lol
[17:17] <G0DJA> That would be a neat trick...
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[17:18] <fsphil-laptop> they're a glitch in the matrix
[17:18] <daveake> Someone tried dividing by zero
[17:18] <G0DJA> According to a film they're going to mutate
[17:18] <F1SRC> I receive always Xaben but it's really very low, not decoding for a while.
[17:18] <fsphil-laptop> it's quite far from you now F1SRC
[17:20] <F1SRC> Yes with yagi perhaps, my altitude is 10m above mean sea level
[17:21] <cuddykid> extremely faint here indoors with yagi surrounded by buildings :P
[17:21] <G0DJA> I really should go and start cooking the tea!
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[17:21] <fsphil-laptop> food!
[17:21] <Upu-2E0UPU> aye I need to walk the dog in a mo
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[17:21] <daveake> I've been volunteered to do the roast
[17:21] <F1SRC> Good idea for the tea ;)
[17:22] <daveake> I'll take the netbook to the kitchen :)
[17:22] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[17:22] <fsphil-laptop> I'm sure my dog can wait
[17:22] <fsphil-laptop> although he's not good at waiting
[17:22] <fsphil-laptop> and he lets me know it
[17:22] Action: costyn is already cooking dinner for the family; kitchen is at one end of the living room so that's convenient
[17:22] <Upu-2E0UPU> well I reckon thats sunset
[17:22] <G0DJA> We're having roast beef with coliflower cheese
[17:22] <Upu-2E0UPU> so no real reason this is coming down any time soon
[17:22] <Upu-2E0UPU> meh Scampi & Chips :)
[17:22] <fsphil-laptop> this is odd, jcoxon isn't home yet and nothing has happened
[17:23] <daveake> Roast Lamb
[17:23] <daveake> :)
[17:23] <G0DJA> Anyone interested in a copy of the WAV files? Been recording them with FL-Digi as found the button - HI
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[17:24] <G0DJA> RTTY getting a bit narrower
[17:24] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: well he's only been gone for an hour; we still have an hour to go
[17:24] <fsphil-laptop> G0DJA, I've seen a few amateurs saying "hi" to end sentences - is there a meaning behind it?
[17:24] <G0DJA> fsphil_laptop it's from Morse code meaning tho laugh
[17:24] <fsphil-laptop> aaaaaaah
[17:24] <G0DJA> tho = to
[17:24] <fsphil-laptop> they're version of lol basically
[17:25] <fsphil-laptop> there *
[17:25] Action: fsphil-laptop grammer fail
[17:25] <fsphil-laptop> thanks, that makes sense now
[17:25] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: their and grammar :P
[17:25] <costyn> (sorry)
[17:26] <pjm> i have lost comms from the sonde here
[17:26] <G0DJA> I could never spul for tuffy
[17:26] <fsphil-laptop> ooh look a distraction...
[17:27] <G0DJA> 473.9km away now
[17:27] <Upu-2E0UPU> 434.648.570
[17:27] <Upu-2E0UPU> 542km here
[17:28] <daveake> A massive 350km here :p
[17:28] <Upu-2E0UPU> you all need to move to Yorkshire
[17:28] <G0DJA> I moved away from there...
[17:29] <gonzo___> still seeing it at 20dB above noise
[17:29] <G0DJA> To be fair I did move to Yorkshire from the West Midlands as well
[17:30] <Upu-2E0UPU> ok dog walk bbs
[17:32] <F1SRC> It's finish for me, no reception
[17:34] <cuddykid> excellent work Upu-2E0UPU
[17:34] <G0DJA> seems to be drifting slowly LF now 434.648.98
[17:35] <fsphil-laptop> nice work F1SRC
[17:35] <fsphil-laptop> descent rate seems to be slowing a bit
[17:35] <F1SRC> Thank's, highaltitude balloon it's very interesting
[17:36] <fsphil-laptop> doggie needs his walk now or he's going to eat my leg. bbl
[17:37] <G0DJA> CUL Phil
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[17:38] <costyn> F1SRC: join the UKHAS mailing list (low volume) to get updates on future flights
[17:40] <F1SRC> I join the mailing list there are approximately 30min ;))
[17:40] <G0DJA> Getting too weak to decode properly here now
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[17:41] <LazyL-M0LEP> frequency's drifting down quite fast now...
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[17:44] <costyn> i'm getting 2 lines, but the shift is about 1000? any ideas?
[17:44] <G0DJA> Still decoding but too many errors creeping in now
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[17:46] <G0DJA> 491km was the last full decode here
[17:46] <NickB1> is there a heater? shifting very fast
[17:47] <costyn> NickB1: whats your dial freq
[17:47] <NickB1> 434645.60
[17:47] <Dutch-Mill> costyn : 434.646.26
[17:48] <G0DJA> Yea! A bonus 507.4km decoded
[17:49] <G0DJA> Another at 509.2 as well
[17:49] <Upu-2E0UPU> 577km
[17:50] <G0DJA> freq drift seems to have settled a bit as well
[17:50] <costyn> thx... hear something, but too faint to decode
[17:50] <costyn> will go upstairs in a bit see if I can get it working on the 2nd floor
[17:52] <Upu-2E0UPU> 434.644.400
[17:52] <daveake> 400km best so far for me
[17:52] <Laurenceb_> keeps going down :(
[17:53] <Upu-2E0UPU> yup drifting now
[17:53] <Upu-2E0UPU> sunrise possibly got cold
[17:53] <Upu-2E0UPU> err
[17:53] <Upu-2E0UPU> sunset
[17:53] <daveake> temp is steady (was bouncing earlier in the sun I think), so that indicates the sun has gone
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[17:55] <Dutch-Mill> 434.643.80
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[17:56] <Upu-2E0UPU> same here just reduced the shift to 335
[17:56] <cuddykid> is there anyway to have SD card with atmega (using mosi, SCK etc pins) and AVR ISP programming pins on the same pcb board?
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[17:57] <G0MJW> Evening all
[17:59] <Upu-2E0UPU> evening
[17:59] <davecooking> evening
[18:00] <G0MJW> Been at the Didcot Rally all day. What's up (literally)
[18:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> Xaben
[18:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> currently floating across france
[18:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> 434.643.50
[18:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> ~335Hz shuft
[18:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> shift
[18:00] <cuddykid> looks like my atmega chips will be delivered tomorrow :D made their way over from Colorado in 48hrs
[18:01] <G0MJW> Probably out of range from here - hill to the south.
[18:01] <Upu-2E0UPU> give it a shot its pretty high
[18:01] <Upu-2E0UPU> receiving from just short of 600km here
[18:02] <Upu-2E0UPU> ok off to eat
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[18:02] <G0MJW> Yes - I can hear it but not well. I am only using a vertical. I think there are enough trackers so no need to use the ground station.
[18:03] <Dutch-Mill> 434.642.75
[18:05] <Laurenceb_> i hope it levels out
[18:05] <Laurenceb_> i fear it will just drift down
[18:08] <G0DJA> Still hearing it, just, and got a 522.5km full decode as well
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[18:10] <G0DJA> That was a nice one as well 537km
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[18:14] <F1SRC> Always good reception from uk station, great
[18:15] <fsphil-laptop> back.. miss anything?
[18:15] <G0DJA> F1SRC can still see signal in waterfall but no decodes now
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[18:16] <fsphil-laptop> it's dropped a fair bit
[18:17] <RocketBoy> picking it up nicely off the global tuner in frankfurt
[18:17] <fsphil-laptop> good spot RocketBoy, that should have coverage for ages
[18:17] <RocketBoy> hope so
[18:17] <fsphil-laptop> F1SRC you're still receiving
[18:18] <F1SRC> I have reception again 591km ;)
[18:18] <fsphil-laptop> nice!
[18:18] <fsphil-laptop> wow, that beats my record
[18:18] <fsphil-laptop> I got 560km
[18:18] <daveake> I'm up to 440km - easily my best
[18:18] <Rob_M0DTS> what's current frequency please?
[18:19] <daveake> 434.6410
[18:19] <Rob_M0DTS> ta
[18:19] <G0DJA> GE Rob
[18:19] <F1SRC> 434.641 also, 594.2 km for the last data
[18:19] <fsphil-laptop> 10mw goes a long way
[18:20] <Rob_M0DTS> Hi Dave
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[18:21] <G0DJA> So nearly got it all $$$$$$XABEN,1537,18:20:26,49.69493,4.28023,2;756,-26.7,39.u05;5;5AA0;0.9*2927-
[18:21] <Rob_M0DTS> Nothing here anyway.. hope it keeps floating!
[18:21] <fsphil-laptop> aaaarg, hate that
[18:21] <F1SRC> 10mw great, my personnal record is 492km with 10mW on 5,7Ghz but with dish
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[18:21] <fsphil-laptop> that's excellent F1SRC
[18:22] <F1SRC> My name is Michel
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[18:22] <G0DJA> Yes! 552.1km and decoded
[18:22] <fsphil-laptop> I have yet to do any amateur radio above 1ghz
[18:23] <G0DJA> 23cm is good best DX so far here on 10W was Poland
[18:23] <fsphil-laptop> though I have been playing with optical stuff, but that doesn't count :)
[18:23] <fsphil-laptop> yikes
[18:24] <F1SRC> 600.6 km with low signal
[18:24] <G0DJA> Rob and I have even swapped TV signals on 24cm ;-)
[18:25] <F1SRC> The frequency down fast
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[18:25] <fsphil-laptop> amateur tv is neat
[18:25] Nick change: Ron -> Guest8036
[18:25] <fsphil-laptop> I'd love to do that from a balloon but that just isn't going to happen here
[18:26] <fsphil-laptop> only real option is 2.4ghz but that's ambitious :)
[18:26] <NickB1> going back up again
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[18:26] <Laurenceb_> where is spot?
[18:26] <NickB1> altitude I mean :)
[18:26] <F1SRC> 603.8 km now ;)
[18:26] <Nickolai> hello all
[18:26] <fsphil-laptop> hiya Nickolai
[18:27] <Nickolai> hey fsphil, how's it going?
[18:27] <fsphil-laptop> not bad here, well fed and sitting watching the flight :)
[18:27] <fsphil-laptop> you?
[18:27] <Nickolai> planning another flight :)
[18:27] <Laurenceb_> heading to Luxembourg
[18:28] <Laurenceb_> resistance is futile
[18:28] <Nickolai> I'm trying to put a pressure sensor on it, but it looks like sparkfun only has ones that go down to 30kpa, do you know where we might find a good one that can go down to ~1kpa?
[18:29] <Upu-2E0UPU> I can still see it on the waterfall but no decode
[18:31] <F1SRC> 610.6km, s/n -3db
[18:32] <fsphil-laptop> Nickolai, I'm not sure - most flights seem to use that sparkfun one, including this one iirc
[18:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> beat me F1SRC I got 610.4 :)
[18:35] <Nickolai> yea, i've seen a couple people saying it actually works pretty well down to ~1 kPa. thanks for the info!
[18:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> this is where I need a Yagi
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[18:35] <Upu-2E0UPU> I can see it fine signals just not strong enough
[18:35] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[18:35] <F1SRC> Last data = 616.8km
[18:36] <Upu-2E0UPU> thats a good effort F1SRC :)
[18:36] <F1SRC> Always with my verticale (X50 Diamond) and the internal lna of the ft-847 (inrad filter 2.1khz), great software also ;)
[18:37] <fsphil-laptop> ah you have the same antenna as me F1SRC
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[18:38] <Upu-2E0UPU> whats current frequency ?
[18:38] <F1SRC> This antenna work's fine, 10m over the top, 10m asl and 10km in the sea
[18:38] <Laurenceb_> spot is late
[18:38] <Laurenceb_> hope its still running
[18:39] <Upu-2E0UPU> think its gone from my waterfall
[18:39] <Upu-2E0UPU> though I lost the frequency by clicking somewhere by accident
[18:39] <F1SRC> 434.639.5 shift 335 for me, 622.3 km !! 8)
[18:39] <NickB1> 434.638.60
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[18:40] <Upu-2E0UPU> oh yeah still there
[18:40] <gonzo___> it keeps slidingf out of the rx bandwidth
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[18:40] <LazyL-M0LEP> 434.638.55 here.
[18:40] <gonzo___> have to retune when I notice
[18:41] <gonzo___> otherwise it's still 100% decode here
[18:41] <cuddykid> nothing here
[18:41] <NickB1> seems to be stable now
[18:41] <LazyL-M0LEP> Much drifting there has been...
[18:41] <Upu-2E0UPU> wow its almost decoding again
[18:41] <fsphil-laptop> very nothing here
[18:42] <F6AGV> F1SRC c'est quoi l'adresse pour rentrer les coordonnées ?
[18:42] <Upu-2E0UPU> If I had a Yagi.. http://imagebin.org/198572
[18:43] <Upu-2E0UPU> fly a 25mW module next time :)
[18:44] <RocketBoy> the drift seems to be slowing down
[18:44] <F1SRC> F6AGV les coordonnées de ? precisez
[18:44] <Upu-2E0UPU> its not drifting
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[18:44] <gonzo___> the shift is about 340 now
[18:45] <gonzo___> about 20hz lower than it started at
[18:45] <F6AGV> Pour rentrer les coordonnées du ballon quand on les a décodée ?
[18:47] <cuddykid> I guess that's the advantage of the rfm22b - once outside the UK the power can be cranked up! - what's the max power of rfm22b?
[18:47] <F1SRC> 630km, no qrm, http://imagebin.org/198573
[18:48] <F1SRC> Pour les coordonnées c'est dl-fldigi qui fait l'upload vers le site en auto
[18:48] <cuddykid> I can hear rtty in my ears (when radio is off) - never a good sign :P
[18:49] <cuddykid> great work F1SRC!
[18:49] <fsphil-laptop> can you decode it though? :)
[18:49] <number10_2E0DBR> download here F6AGV
[18:49] <F6AGV> OK, j'avais une adresse où on pouvait remplir des cases la fois d'avant avec PICOATLAS
[18:49] <number10_2E0DBR> http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi
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[18:50] <navrac_> i can hear it - just cant get a good decode
[18:50] <fsphil-laptop> hiya jcoxon
[18:50] <cuddykid> congrats jcoxon - superb flight
[18:51] <F6AGV> Thanks very much 2E0DBR we need informations
[18:51] <F1SRC> The signal down now, i think it's finish for me, 630.1 km it's great
[18:52] <F6AGV> Hello James, burts or not burst ?
[18:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> who is programming the spacenearus site?
[18:52] <number10_2E0DBR> sélectionnez vol XEBEN
[18:52] <number10_2E0DBR> ZABEN
[18:52] <jcoxon> hey
[18:53] <jcoxon> so we are still flying then
[18:53] <F1SRC> Désolé AGV je ne connais pas la manip hors dl_fldigi
[18:54] <RocketBoy> yep
[18:54] <number10_2E0DBR> F1SRC peut-être F6AGV pourrait aider
[18:55] <RocketBoy> I have it off global tuners in frankfurt
[18:55] <RocketBoy> solid copy
[18:55] <LazyL-M0LEP> Oh. Here comes ISS...
[18:57] <RocketBoy> be interesting to see how many mins its in range
[18:58] <F1SRC> number10_2E0DBR c'est F6AVG qui cherchait, for me now it's down, no reception, my last decoding data 630.1km, alt 29577m
[18:58] <F6AGV> j'avais ça pour rentrer les données avec PICOATLAS : http://habhub.org/files/picoatlas/
[18:58] <F1SRC> Pratique en effet,
[18:58] <F6AGV> Mon pot F5APQ qui fait le RX ballon n'avait pas trouvé le moyen de rentrer les données, tu vois ?
[19:00] <F6AGV> Ici on a fldigi pas dl-fldigi c'est peut être pour ça et on a était pris au dépourvu ce matin !
[19:00] <Upu-2E0UPU> getting stronger here $$$$$HABEN,1656,19:00:06,4;.59147,5.11537,29410,-25.2$42.\,5;5;5EA0;0.9*5F21
[19:01] <navrac_> almost gone here - can still see it on the waterfall & hear it - but very little readqable
[19:01] <F6AGV> XABEN use parachute or no, who know answer ?
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[19:03] <F6AGV> James are you here ?
[19:03] <Upu-2E0UPU> do you reduce or increase the filter bandwidth to get a better signal
[19:03] <Upu-2E0UPU> it'll have one I suspect F6AGV
[19:03] <navrac_> reduce but you have to get the frequency seperation right
[19:04] <F1SRC> F6AVG : avec dl_fldigi tout se fait tout seul au niveau transfert des données. https://github.com/jamescoxon/dl-fldigi/downloads
[19:04] <F6AGV> OK, who know if XABEN use parachute just now ?
[19:04] <Upu-2E0UPU> RocketBoy does it have a parachute on it ?
[19:04] <navrac_> yes it does
[19:05] <RocketBoy> Upu-2E0UPU: of corse - it would be a breach of the permit otherwise
[19:05] <Upu-2E0UPU> there you go F6AGV
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[19:05] <F6AGV> OK F1SRC c'est l'info que je cherchais, pour le prochain vol on sera prêt mais là on a été pris de court, sinon spacenear c'est bon.
[19:07] <F6AGV> Si tu veux note mon adresse MAIL : f6agv@free.fr pour échange ballon dans le futur, merci ici c'est ALAIN
[19:08] <costyn> whats the latest dial frew
[19:08] <costyn> freq*
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[19:08] Action: cuddykid imagines David Miller phoning up his counterpart in France to get permission - only to find that his counterpart is snowed under with work
[19:09] <F6AGV> OK Navrac what is the surface of this parachute ?
[19:09] <F1SRC> C'est noté
[19:09] <jcoxon> F6AGV, its not descending
[19:09] <jcoxon> its floating
[19:09] <F6AGV> OK très heureux et félicitations pour le travail c'est super !
[19:10] <navrac_> I don't knmow - but heres a man who does
[19:10] <F6AGV> OK James burst is not accomplished ?
[19:10] <navrac_> nice one james
[19:11] <jcoxon> F6AGV, yeah, it can't get high enough to burst
[19:11] <costyn> cool to see lots of french stations popping up on the map
[19:11] <F6AGV> Yes I see , very nice flight James !
[19:11] <F1SRC> It's really finish for me, j'espère que le ballon va faire un long vol et qu'il sera retrouvé, bon boulot de l'équipe, 73 to all, rendez vous for the next ;)
[19:12] <Upu-2E0UPU> thanks for tracking F1SRC
[19:12] <fsphil-laptop> great work F1SRC
[19:12] <F1SRC> I hope the ball will be a long flight and it will be found, good job team, 73 to all, for the next appointment;)
[19:12] <F6AGV> OK F1SRC ne manquez pas ce plaisir et à bientôt
[19:12] <LazyL-M0LEP> costyn: dial's at 434.636.6
[19:12] <costyn> LazyL-M0LEP: thx
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[19:14] <costyn> trying now with my wimpy antenna on the 2nd floor, i can hear it but too faint unfortunately
[19:15] <F6AGV> F0ERP bonsoir mon ami
[19:16] <Laurenceb_> Belgium
[19:16] <costyn> Belgium to you too
[19:16] <Upu-2E0UPU> I can still see it on the waterfall clearly even though I'm way out of radio horizon, can't decode though sadly
[19:17] <NickB1> just passed the border
[19:17] <costyn> oh :)
[19:18] <costyn> where's Lunarlander when you need him :)
[19:18] <costyn> heading for his direction
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[19:19] <f0erp> bonsoir f6agv je n'avait pas trouver pour envoyer les MSG
[19:21] <LazyL-M0LEP> signal's dropped here rather noticably...
[19:21] <RocketBoy> in frankfurt too
[19:21] <cuddykid> haha costyn
[19:22] <daveake_> I lost it at 480km. Nothing more from me now.
[19:22] <LazyL-M0LEP> ten in a row without a decode...
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[19:22] <RocketBoy> I rather suspect the batteries
[19:22] <LazyL-M0LEP> 440kms only, here.
[19:22] <fsphil-laptop> nou!
[19:23] <Upu-2E0UPU> shift is 315
[19:23] <Upu-2E0UPU> I can still see it on the waterfall steady as a rock
[19:23] <LazyL-M0LEP> Just got one clean line though.
[19:23] <Upu-2E0UPU> no decodes though
[19:23] <RocketBoy> I can see the 1 sec pulse from the GPS in between the sentances
[19:23] <NickB1> yes indeed
[19:23] <NickB1> seeing that to
[19:23] <F1SRC> I have send a message to listener forum in France, may be will there be more people to listen and decode
[19:23] <SamSilver_> fsphil-laptop: nou! ??
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[19:23] <Upu-2E0UPU> nice one F1SRC
[19:23] <RocketBoy> which is indicative of poor voltage regulation
[19:23] <jcoxon> back
[19:23] <fsphil-laptop> SamSilver_, it's like "noooo!" only with an accent
[19:23] <Upu-2E0UPU> wb jcoxon
[19:24] <SamSilver_> lol
[19:24] <jcoxon> though need to spend some time with gf
[19:24] <daveake_> Tsk, priorities ...
[19:24] <jcoxon> so XABEN's time is numbered it seems
[19:24] <Upu-2E0UPU> situation normal you're over Belgium
[19:24] <Upu-2E0UPU> $$$$$$XAKEN to you mate
[19:25] <jcoxon> SPOT seems happy though
[19:25] <number10_2E0DBR> take the gf to belgium for a romantic hab weekend jcoxon
[19:25] <Upu-2E0UPU> indeed
[19:25] <jcoxon> not sure she is that keen
[19:25] <jcoxon> !
[19:25] <daveake_> I can recommend Bruges :)
[19:25] <F6AGV> OK F0ERP vous êtes dans quel QTH ?
[19:26] <LazyL-M0LEP> Back in France briefly?
[19:26] <jcoxon> shall we turn off the predictor
[19:26] <jcoxon> its not terribly helpful
[19:26] <Upu-2E0UPU> aye
[19:26] <Upu-2E0UPU> is that in config ?
[19:26] <jcoxon> just delete the gfs file
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[19:27] <Upu-2E0UPU> where do they live ?
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[19:27] <costyn> w00t... decoding partial strings
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[19:27] <fsphil-laptop> congrats costyn :)
[19:27] <Upu-2E0UPU> I found them
[19:27] <F6AGV> Bonsoir F8TIW
[19:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon: i would be nice to have a distance calculator on spacenearus, based on a qth locator or lat lon.
[19:27] <Upu-2E0UPU> done
[19:27] <costyn> using the rubber antenna that comes with the 817 hehe
[19:27] <jcoxon> OZ1SKY_Brian, good idea
[19:27] <SamSilver_> ISS seems to be floating!
[19:28] <SamSilver_> :p
[19:30] Nick change: Upu-2E0UPU -> Upu
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[19:32] <Upu> F1OET is well positioned
[19:32] <LazyL-M0LEP> very faint here...
[19:33] <jcoxon> good turnout of listeners
[19:33] <Upu> very good
[19:33] <SamSilver_> and watchers
[19:33] <jcoxon> good french rally
[19:33] <jcoxon> thanks!
[19:33] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: joy was shortlived... can't get it back now
[19:33] <Upu> more than we've ever had
[19:34] <Upu> and into Luxembourg it goes
[19:34] <Laurenceb_> wow massive steelworks
[19:34] <LazyL-M0LEP> One more good line, but the way the signal's looking, any one could be the last I get...
[19:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jcoxon: why not make a SMS or email alert list people can sign up for, Then they can be alterted if needed on a long floot ?
[19:36] <Laurenceb_> haha Avenue du Rock'n'Roll
[19:37] <Laurenceb_> in the steelworks
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[19:39] <RocketBoy> signal strength keeps going up and down in frankfurt
[19:40] <NickB1> same here
[19:42] <jcoxon> F8BNN is well placed
[19:42] <jcoxon> :p
[19:43] <NickB1> great flight jcoxon, my first decodable hab :)
[19:44] <jcoxon> hehe, cool
[19:44] <jcoxon> its not just me - RocketBoy was key
[19:44] <RocketBoy> :-)
[19:46] <jcoxon> still managing decodes then
[19:47] <RocketBoy> yep - i may have been wrong about battery voltage
[19:47] <Upu> You can hear it on Isle of Sheppey GT but low quality codec is eating any data in there
[19:48] <RocketBoy> fortunatly its drifterd down from 434.650 - as that is quite noisy in frankfurt
[19:48] <SpeedEvil> Also - wow. Lot more trackers in europe than normal!
[19:48] <SpeedEvil> :)
[19:49] Nick change: number10_2E0DBR -> number10
[19:49] <Upu> Really interested to see where this ends up and fingers crossed with the spot we should find out
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[19:49] <SpeedEvil> Indeed!
[19:49] <Upu> where did all the French listeners come from anyway ?
[19:50] <jcoxon> Upu, for once :-)
[19:50] <jcoxon> f6agv recruited!
[19:50] <SpeedEvil> Have we ever seen a burst in this situation - a floater, during darkness.
[19:50] <number10> lunar will be on a little later maybe he can track
[19:50] <Upu> what a star
[19:50] <Upu> SpeedEvil don't think theres been enough flights of this type
[19:50] <SpeedEvil> True
[19:52] <LazyL-M0LEP> Think I've had my last clean decode here. Signal's still on waterfall, just, but nowhere near decodable now.
[19:52] <jcoxon> SpeedEvil, yeah it should survive
[19:52] <jcoxon> LazyL-M0LEP, thanks for all the help
[19:52] <Upu> clear as a bell on Odenwald GT
[19:52] <Upu> still never worked out how to run the audio back to dl-fldigi though
[19:53] <LazyL-M0LEP> jcoxon: It's been a good one. ;)
[19:53] <jcoxon> we are due a spot update
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[19:55] <costyn> Top Gear time! :D
[19:56] <fsphil-laptop> oh yes, forgot about that
[19:56] <jcoxon> hmmm
[19:56] <jcoxon> no spot for a while
[19:57] <jcoxon> might be getting too cold
[19:57] <fsphil-laptop> nou!
[19:57] <costyn> jcoxon: are you gonna be able to sleep tonight? ;)
[19:57] <jcoxon> will have to
[19:57] <jcoxon> i've got work!
[19:57] <costyn> ah yes, that pesky thing called work
[19:57] <jcoxon> come on spot - update
[20:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu: did you just get a decode !?!
[20:01] <Upu> I'm cheating
[20:01] <Upu> using Odenwald GT with GW8RAK
[20:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu: ahh ok lol
[20:01] <NickB1> my setup :D http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/9471/setupnickb.jpg
[20:01] <Upu> I thought I'd left dl-fldigi in offline mode sorry
[20:02] <fsphil-laptop> lol, nice NickB1
[20:02] <jcoxon> Upu, oh keep uploading data
[20:02] <Upu> NickB1 the main issue I see is the antenna is inside :)
[20:02] <Upu> ok will do
[20:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> NickB1: is that a pvc pipe you mounted the antenna on ?
[20:03] <NickB1> yeah thats the only thing i got laying around
[20:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> NickB1: ok good, steel or iron would have been bad, pvc is fine
[20:04] <NickB1> oh ok :)
[20:05] <gonzo___> still seeing the trace of the tty, but no more decodes
[20:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> gonzo___: i got robbed here
[20:06] <NickB1> the 1 sec pulses seem to get bigger
[20:08] <NickB1> 300hz shift now
[20:09] <fsphil-laptop> not much longer then
[20:10] <Laurenceb_> how long should spot last?
[20:10] <jcoxon> well spot missed its last tx
[20:10] <jcoxon> which is worrying
[20:10] <jcoxon> Laurenceb tests outside (only down to -5) lasted over 60 hours
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[20:11] <Upu> when is the next TX due from Spot ?
[20:11] <jcoxon> around now
[20:11] <Laurenceb_> is it insulated?
[20:11] <jcoxon> yeah
[20:11] <jcoxon> but still
[20:11] <jcoxon> most flights aren't in the air that long
[20:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> HB3YWU just reported it
[20:12] <jcoxon> so don't get that cold
[20:12] <Upu> where's HB3YWU ?
[20:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> switzerland
[20:12] <Upu> oh yeah sorry I see him on the map
[20:13] <Upu> yeah he got a packet
[20:13] <Upu> wow
[20:13] <Upu> this definitely wins the most trackers on a flight award
[20:13] <jcoxon> hehe
[20:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes a very good turnup
[20:13] <jcoxon> we'll be able to dump the data from habitat afterwards
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[20:15] <jcoxon> still nothing
[20:15] <jcoxon> come on spot
[20:15] <Upu> sounds like an arthritic dog
[20:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> too bad it went about 100km to much south for me, some other time i gess
[20:18] <NickB1> 290hz shift
[20:18] <Upu> just a little bit out never mind OZ1SKY_Brian there will be more :)
[20:19] <jcoxon> certainly be more
[20:19] <gonzo___> lost all traces now
[20:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu: i hope so, but it have to be flooters, as my 36km alt los is just on the uk coastline
[20:20] <Upu> jetsream does go north occasionally
[20:20] <Upu> and that way is better covered by receivers
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[20:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu: yes or a launch from central or north would still bring it in range of me
[20:21] <Upu> <- North :)
[20:22] <Upu> We have a launch site at 54.1718, -1.3967
[20:22] <Upu> jsut having issues getting permission to launch from there
[20:22] <Dutch-Mill> Hi all what's te frequency at the moment ?
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[20:22] <jcoxon> 434.634
[20:22] <Dutch-Mill> thnx
[20:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu: i would call that central, but maybe you dont count scotland in :-)
[20:23] <NickB1> 633.96
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[20:23] <Upu> heh
[20:23] <Upu> thats northern england :)
[20:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu: thats right :)
[20:23] <Upu> Central British Isles fair enough
[20:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> they launched a ballon from denmark about ½year ago, but it only had a simple beacon in it and a camera
[20:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no radio tracking
[20:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and they didnt release the beacon frequency before splash down :-(
[20:25] <Upu> thats daft
[20:26] <Upu> I'm actually glad there are some radio amateurs out there who actually think this is interesting
[20:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=He2vxXPm1_U
[20:28] <Upu> oh camera was on a quad copter cool
[20:28] <Upu> thats a good camera angle
[20:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh that was not the flight video, one momet
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[20:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43NUshmJfwM&feature=related
[20:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> there
[20:30] <jcoxon> this payload just keeps going...
[20:31] <Upu> its not coming down any time soon
[20:31] <Upu> shame spots gone quiet
[20:32] <Laurenceb_> how many people?!
[20:32] <Laurenceb_> what event is that?
[20:33] <Upu> oh so they got it back
[20:33] <Upu> nice
[20:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes they found it after alot of searching, it even came on the new that they needed help and the beacon frequency, lol
[20:34] <Upu> I approve of the landing
[20:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> new=news
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[20:35] <Upu> Hey Graham
[20:35] <GW8RAK> Evening Upu
[20:36] <Upu> seem to be working well
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[20:37] <Upu> shift going down ?
[20:38] <Upu> 270Hz now
[20:38] <LazyL-M0LEP> ISS again! ;)
[20:38] <jcoxon> iss flyby
[20:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Laurenceb_: it was the geoforum conference 2011, lots and lots of people
[20:38] <Upu> crashing the party :)
[20:38] <jcoxon> shall we makr iss a perment feature
[20:39] <Upu> I love if you click path :)
[20:39] <NickB1> ah good decodes again, the metal raster in my window seemed to block some signal :D
[20:39] <jcoxon> Upu, like goldeneye
[20:40] <Upu> yup
[20:40] <Upu> whats your range NickB1 ?
[20:40] <LazyL-M0LEP> Tricky thing with ISS as it is is seeing where it's actually overhead...
[20:40] <NickB1> 240km now
[20:40] <Upu> superb
[20:41] <LazyL-M0LEP> ...unless you scroll out a long way...
[20:42] <jcoxon> i think the cold must have got spot
[20:42] <jcoxon> i'm not sure its designed for prelonged -25C
[20:43] <LazyL-M0LEP> Hmmm... :/
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[20:45] <NickB1> http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7064/xaben.jpg
[20:45] <NickB1> the 1 sec gps pulse doesnt seem to be an issue
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[20:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> what irc server is this room at?
[20:49] <NickB1> freenode?
[20:50] Nick change: LazyL-M0LEP -> LazyLeopard
[20:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok let me try that
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[20:51] <Upu> if it warms up
[20:51] <Upu> will spot start transmitting again ?
[20:51] <jcoxon> Upu, hope so
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[20:51] <jcoxon> depends whats stopped working really
[20:51] <Upu> is it water proof ?
[20:52] <jcoxon> within the box yes
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[20:52] <RocketBoy> NickB1: yeah it may be the poor regulation is more to temprature rather than battery state
[20:52] <fsphil> wb OZ1SKY_Brian
[20:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yep that worked
[20:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thanks
[20:53] <jcoxon> Upu, i suspect it might be a drift in clock so the serial goes off
[20:53] <SpeedEvil> I thought the SPOT GPS died at 18km
[20:53] <Upu> ah ok
[20:53] <jcoxon> SpeedEvil, i've replaced it
[20:54] <SpeedEvil> Ah. :)
[20:54] <Upu> thats one thing I want to test actually what ceramic resonators are like for clocks
[20:54] <RocketBoy> someone (perhaps me) should profile the NTX2 for temprature drift - we might get an idea of internal temps tat way
[20:55] <NickB1> 2000 sentences :)
[20:55] <costyn> fsphil: Top gear is rubbish
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[20:57] <Upu> thats quite alot
[20:57] <Upu> :)
[20:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> fsphil im on bbc2 as well, lol
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[20:58] <jcoxon> hi hb3ywu
[20:58] <jcoxon> good work getting data!
[20:59] <hb3ywu> Hello, thanks.
[21:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hb3ywu is your called a special licens, ive never heard a HB3 before ?
[21:00] <Upu> welcome aboard hb3ywu
[21:01] <hb3ywu> the signal drops at home maintaining
[21:01] <hb3ywu> ok, my call HB3 is Novice Licence CEPT
[21:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok i see thanks for the info
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[21:04] <Laurenceb_> altitiude is all over the place
[21:05] <Laurenceb_> i think its only just bouyant
[21:06] <cuddykid> Upu: you're still receiving?!?! :O
[21:07] <costyn> cuddykid: globaltuner :)
[21:07] <cuddykid> ohh :)
[21:07] <cuddykid> I was going to say...!
[21:07] Action: costyn is off to sleep. jcoxon and RocketBoy, thanks for an entertaining day
[21:07] <jcoxon> np costyn
[21:08] <jcoxon> we'll do it again
[21:08] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, do this again soon?
[21:08] <costyn> cool, next time I swear I'll have my proper antenna read
[21:08] <costyn> y
[21:08] Action: costyn afk
[21:08] <navrac> if it stays up overnight it will rise again
[21:09] <jcoxon> navrac, perhaps
[21:09] <jcoxon> it'll rise a bit
[21:09] <jcoxon> but not that much
[21:09] <jcoxon> that'll be the key - if is survives the sunrise
[21:10] <navrac> any word from spot recently?
[21:10] <jcoxon> no
[21:10] <jcoxon> not since 1905
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[21:10] <jcoxon> :-)
[21:10] <jcoxon> i mean
[21:10] <jcoxon> :-(
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[21:11] <navrac> thats real b@gger, it would have been really useful overnight
[21:12] <jcoxon> navrac, we might find it wakes up
[21:12] <jcoxon> really depends what the issue is
[21:13] <navrac> i hope so, so you have no clue what the issue might be
[21:13] <jcoxon> i suspect cold and crystal drift
[21:13] <jcoxon> thats the problem with spot - you either get data or no data
[21:14] <navrac> well lets hope some warming sunshine brings it back to life
[21:14] <jcoxon> yes
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[21:19] <Laurenceb_> altitude going up a lot
[21:19] <Laurenceb_> i think its only just bouyant
[21:20] <Laurenceb_> and was actually slowly drifting down before
[21:20] <Laurenceb_> now its going back up to superpressure float again
[21:21] <Laurenceb_> at ~30km
[21:21] <Laurenceb_> probably want slightly more lift in future
[21:21] <jcoxon> is spacenear.us working for everyone?
[21:21] <Upu> yep
[21:22] <navrac> yep
[21:22] <jcoxon> even on refresh/
[21:22] <jcoxon> ?
[21:23] <Upu> yep
[21:23] <jcoxon> strange - got reports where its crashing
[21:23] <jcoxon> well one report
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[21:27] <LazyLeopard> Still ticking along just fine here...
[21:28] <Pavix> I never visited that site before, it loaded just fine
[21:30] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=31aa32134c352d97f91ec9d9d79299f348ae82d2
[21:30] <Upu> off to Munich
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[21:34] <jcoxon> hmmm decodes are becoming a little bit harder
[21:35] <NigelMoby> where to is it now?
[21:35] <NickB1> yeah very faint over here :(
[21:37] <Pavix> Am I reading that prediction correctly? over a 100 miles from launch to where it's predicted to land?
[21:37] <F1SRC> Nice flight, good night to the team and listeners ;)
[21:37] <jcoxon> thanks F1SRC !
[21:37] <F1SRC> SK for me, 73
[21:37] <jcoxon> Pavix, this is not a normal flight
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[21:40] <Pavix> What's different about it?
[21:40] <jcoxon> well this one is floating (on purpose)
[21:40] <jcoxon> rather than up/down
[21:41] <wmiler> doesn't seem to be moving all that fast, is that normal over there? (clueless american :)
[21:41] <RocketBoy> that might be it for XABEN
[21:41] <jcoxon> the wind is quite slow currently
[21:41] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, agreed
[21:41] <wmiler> hmm
[21:42] <RocketBoy> the 1sec pulses are too great - the battery looks like its packed up
[21:43] <jcoxon> yeah the pulses are taking out my decode stream
[21:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> did it die?
[21:45] <Laurenceb_> pulses?
[21:46] <Laurenceb_> what are they from
[21:46] <jcoxon> gps
[21:46] <Laurenceb_> oh - current draw?
[21:46] <RocketBoy> 1sec
[21:46] <NickB1> got signal back
[21:46] <RocketBoy> yeah - 1 sec current draw
[21:46] <SpeedEvil> I guess we hope the SPOT warms up at some point?
[21:46] <NickB1> cant decode it though
[21:46] <NickB1> http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8452/xaben4.jpg
[21:46] <jcoxon> SpeedEvil, yeah
[21:47] Action: SpeedEvil crosses fingers for tomorrow.
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[21:48] <NickB1> is there a manual upload page ?
[21:48] <NickB1> got some nearly perfect ones
[21:48] <jcoxon> 49.00193,8.72036,29837
[21:51] <Rob_M0DTS> floating wobbly but good, great job!
[21:51] <NickB1> 21:48:06,49.00193.8.72036,28837
[21:51] <Rob_M0DTS> a shame the 70cm is not on an uplink to an amateur satellite.....hi
[21:51] <priyesh> is SPoT dead?
[21:52] <jcoxon> priyesh, could be
[21:52] <priyesh> okay
[21:52] <jonsowman> jcoxon: is this another of your hacked ones to show altitude?
[21:52] <jcoxon> this one doesn't
[21:52] <jonsowman> ah ok
[21:52] <jcoxon> it wasn't playing nice
[21:52] <jcoxon> i'm hoping spot is just too cold
[21:52] <jonsowman> yeah
[21:52] <priyesh> how likely is this to beat me/alpha's record(s) then? :P
[21:52] <jcoxon> 29890
[21:53] <jcoxon> priyesh, difficult to know
[21:53] <jcoxon> its about to go dark on us
[21:53] <jcoxon> as the radio is packing up as we speak
[21:53] <priyesh> that's a shame
[21:53] <priyesh> did you launch at 11.30ish?
[21:53] <jcoxon> yeah
[21:53] <priyesh> nice one :)
[21:53] <jonsowman> has been a good launch jcoxon
[21:54] <danielsaul> priyesh is only worried about our accidental record :P
[21:54] <jonsowman> we should have got the trackotron out
[21:54] <priyesh> yeah, great flight jcoxon
[21:54] <Onlineradio> Good Night to all - http://www.onlineradio.fr
[21:54] <danielsaul> jcoxon: Would you recommend the SPoT then?
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[21:54] <jcoxon> danielsaul, no
[21:55] <jcoxon> hehe
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[21:55] <jonsowman> haha
[21:55] <jcoxon> well maybe if it wakes up
[21:55] <jcoxon> its very expensive
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[21:55] <danielsaul> haha, yeah
[21:55] <dk9js> hi
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[21:55] <mo> hi guys
[21:55] <jonsowman> jcoxon: it was alright the last time you flew it wasn't it?
[21:55] <danielsaul> Have they been alright on previous launches though?
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[21:55] <Guest82515> aN,210,2154:448.9075.8$8,2886,24.144.6$5;5AA00.9*56>
[21:55] <Guest82515> ;aN,211l010.9288,2, A0
[21:55] <jcoxon> jonsowman, never got that cold
[21:55] <jonsowman> yeah.. was that the atlas that got stuck in the tree?
[21:55] <DG0CAW> DB3OM receiving signals in germany
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[21:56] <jcoxon> cool
[21:56] <jcoxon> i appreciate its difficult to decode
[21:56] <NickB1> jcoxon, going to call it a day, signal is very good now only not decodable :/
[21:56] <NickB1> great flight though
[21:56] <danielsaul> priyesh: Do you think we can afford a SPoT to try? ~$150...
[21:57] <jcoxon> NickB1, thanks
[21:57] <jcoxon> danielsaul, better spent on other stuff
[21:57] <danielsaul> Mmm
[21:58] <danielsaul> I'll try begging for a freebie - mentioning you're in a final of a competition always works well :P haha
[21:58] <jcoxon> danielsaul, the problem is that it won't work above 18km
[21:58] <jonsowman> jcoxon: got any pictures of the internals?
[21:58] <jcoxon> without voiding the warrenties
[21:58] <jcoxon> jonsowman, natrium42 and i have taken it to bits
[21:59] <NickB1> 48.98255,8.9520
[21:59] <jonsowman> jcoxon: no pictures i take it?
[21:59] <jcoxon> oh there are
[21:59] <jcoxon> not online currently
[21:59] <jonsowman> okay
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[22:02] <jcoxon> really struggling now
[22:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> where are you rxing from now?
[22:02] <jcoxon> same place
[22:03] <jcoxon> odenwald
[22:03] <dk9js> globaltuners?
[22:03] <DG0CAW> $$ddxABEg.2203,22:02:03}48.96217,\.05433,29X1,-W1,Z.97-5;5;6AA0;1.9*F369
[22:03] <jcoxon> 29805
[22:03] <db3om> whats the correct shift between the tones?
[22:04] <jcoxon> well it started off as 425
[22:04] <jcoxon> but now its 270
[22:04] <jcoxon> 50baud
[22:04] <db3om> yeah, i have the same feeling. its constantly sinking
[22:04] <jcoxon> db3om, the batteries are very low
[22:04] <jcoxon> its dying
[22:04] <DG0CAW> db3om is from stuttgart.. trying to receive... ;-)
[22:04] <db3om> very weak now
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[22:04] <jcoxon> db3om, thanks for trying
[22:05] <db3om> now stronger
[22:05] <db3om> #$$$$$XABEL,2210,22:35:03/48.94709,9.12421,29:83,-54.6,77._45;5;7AA2;7.x}CSA^
[22:05] <jcoxon> $$$&XABEI,2214,22:35:03!48.90709,8.12441,29:83,-04.6,:3.74-5;5;0AA0;1.8*CAAB
[22:06] <DG0CAW> the time is the same ! :D
[22:06] <db3om> :)
[22:06] <jcoxon> 29890
[22:06] <db3om> its only a few km from here
[22:06] <db3om> google says 15 km by car
[22:07] <jcoxon> 48.94474,9.15563,29889
[22:07] <db3om> (XABEJ,2214,22:07:23 48.9<295,1.17911,29 78,-$4.3,(4.1
[22:08] <jcoxon> wish spot will come online
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[22:08] <db3om> XABEB,222!,22: 8:23 48.9&089,5.202"0,29 58,-24.2,04.68 5;5;!AA0; .8*B!55
[22:08] <db3om> a bit corrupted ;)
[22:09] <jcoxon> hehe
[22:09] <dk9js> how is the spacenear page updated?
[22:09] <db3om> $$$$ XABEF,2223,22: 9:03 48.9!936,!.218+5,29 45,-"4.1, 4.83 5;5;!AA0; .8*9706
[22:09] <dk9js> no update since 21:35
[22:09] <jcoxon> so data from dl-fldigi gets auto uploaded and processed
[22:09] <jcoxon> dk9js, no one has got a complete sentence since then
[22:09] <jcoxon> needs to pass the checksum
[22:09] <dk9js> ah
[22:09] <dk9js> ok
[22:10] <dk9js> seems like the signal strength isn't the problem
[22:10] <jcoxon> no its low power
[22:10] <jcoxon> and teh 1hz spikes are the gps module
[22:11] <db3om> http://maps.google.de/maps?q=48.9685+9.2492&hl=de&ll=48.965174,9.258986&spn=0.045868,0.077162&sll=48.939979,9.214439&sspn=0.091783,0.154324&t=m&z=14
[22:11] <RocketBoy> yeah - the voltage regulation has gone
[22:11] <db3om> $$$$XABE>,223,22:1:23<48.9%316,9.2737,265,-4.2,4.50,5;5;%AA0;.8*F54
[22:11] <RocketBoy> the batteries are just too low to regulate properly
[22:12] <db3om> now its there
[22:12] <db3om> http://maps.google.de/maps?q=48.9218+9.2819&hl=de&ll=48.908736,9.261646&spn=0.091841,0.154324&sll=48.965174,9.258986&sspn=0.045868,0.077162&t=m&z=13
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[22:13] <db3om> 48.9837,9.3131
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[22:14] <jcoxon> getting quieter
[22:15] <DG0CAW> mmh
[22:15] <jcoxon> oh well
[22:15] <jcoxon> we've done very well
[22:16] <Upu> fingers crossed for spot
[22:16] <db3om> where is the data field for the height
[22:16] <db3om> the field after the lat/long is 2958
[22:16] <DG0CAW> mmhhh.. done very well??
[22:16] <jcoxon> DG0CAW, its been flying since 11:20UTC this morning
[22:16] <jcoxon> with dodgey batteries
[22:16] <Upu> we've run out of receivers unless you can pick it up
[22:16] <jcoxon> :-p
[22:16] <db3om> i still hear it
[22:17] <db3om> but the data seems a bit...odd
[22:17] <DG0CAW> i know. the apex project last year reached poland
[22:17] <jcoxon> yeah
[22:17] <Upu> db3om are you using dl-fldigi ?
[22:17] <db3om> i use fldigi
[22:17] <db3om> under linux
[22:18] <Upu> 50 baud was about 300 hz shift RTTY
[22:18] <Upu> if you use dl-fldigi it will autoconfigur
[22:18] <db3om> the last few lines
[22:18] <db3om> $$0ABEN224,22::038.9 86,383,290,-20.8*8D8
[22:18] <db3om> $$$0ABEN22422::23,8.908,391,2985,-2.6,.56,;5;A0;08*A3
[22:18] <db3om> $$$$0ABE,224622:1:43,8.931,9399,2985,-.6,.65,;5;A0;08*17
[22:18] <db3om> ~$$$$$0ABEN,224(22::038.953,407,297,-.6,4.70;5;5A0;8*87C
[22:18] <db3om> $$$$1ABEN224T22::23,8.974,9415,2989,-.6,43.88,;5;5A0;8*8D 4
[22:18] <db3om> ~$$$$$$0ABEN224922:1:43,8.9392,9,4234,2983,-2.5,44.00,;5;5A0;08*31D
[22:18] <db3om> $$$$$0ABEN2250,22:1:03,8.9307,943142,2989,-20.5,42.95,4;5;5AA0;08*168
[22:18] <db3om> $$$$$$XABEN,225122:1q:23,48.93018,943930,29807,-2!.5,41.11,4;5;5A0;08*99AA
[22:19] <Upu> yeah you're close just some missing data
[22:19] <jcoxon> 48.93425,9,44738,29807
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[22:20] <jcoxon> the more data the better
[22:20] <jcoxon> just need to keep track of its lat/lon/alt
[22:20] <db3om> is there a plan to pick it up?
[22:21] <jcoxon> db3om, depends where it lands!
[22:21] <DG0CAW> russia!
[22:21] <DG0CAW> ;-)
[22:21] <db3om> the signal is nw very strong
[22:21] Action: fsphil considers it ...... nah
[22:21] <db3om> but no usable data
[22:21] <db3om> $%$$$$[ABEN-2260-22:23:23,68.92763,9.51063,29868,-27.8,43.18,7;5;5CA0;0/9*B935
[22:22] <fsphil> ooh
[22:22] <fsphil> fix that X and does the checksum work?
[22:22] <db3om> http://maps.google.de/maps?q=48.92763,9.51063&hl=de&ll=48.906931,9.548149&spn=0.183688,0.308647&sll=48.936991,9.418459&sspn=0.045894,0.077162&t=m&z=12
[22:22] <dk9js> well apparently the dying batteries arent affecting the flight path
[22:22] <Upu> 68.92763 not likely
[22:22] <fsphil> ah
[22:22] <db3om> nut with 4 instead of 6
[22:22] <db3om> -n +b
[22:22] <RocketBoy> 29803
[22:22] <DG0CAW> michi... its near your garden! :D
[22:22] <db3om> but with 4 instead of 6
[22:23] <jcoxon> hmmm
[22:23] <db3om> the signal is really really loud nw
[22:23] <DG0CAW> lol
[22:23] <navrac> worth plying with the shift
[22:24] <DG0CAW> *klack*..ooh a balloon!
[22:24] <jcoxon> 29802
[22:25] <jcoxon> been up for 11 hours
[22:25] <Upu> shift was about 300
[22:26] <db3om> http://maps.google.de/maps?q=48.9237,9.6108&hl=de&ll=48.88007,9.490814&spn=0.183786,0.308647&sll=48.906931,9.548149&sspn=0.183688,0.308647&t=m&z=12
[22:29] <jcoxon> not sure we can trust the gps much longer
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[22:29] <Upu> the global tuner is glitching as well
[22:30] <db3om> |~$$$@BEN22822:243,.9148,90122175;1!E
[22:30] <db3om> ~}$$EL232222",.9 2,98918622]+S#QG!(I$|})~o}$:-7P100Cly}~$$ENC+,.1J26`
[22:30] <db3om> seems legit...
[22:30] <Upu> ok taking dog out for a walk bbs
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[22:31] <Nickle> Interesting question about whether or not you can get back the approximate position from several garbled strings.
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[22:33] <jcoxon> $$$$$$XABEN,2293,22:32:23,48.90939,9.76786,29787,-23.8,45.50,5;5;5AA0;0.9*79DE
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[22:33] <jcoxon> does that work?
[22:33] <jcoxon> didn't get recognised
[22:33] <jcoxon> not sure why
[22:34] <jcoxon> boom
[22:34] <jcoxon> it worked
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[22:35] <jcoxon> map updated
[22:35] <DG0CAW> mkay
[22:35] <fsphil> that's a very long way
[22:38] <Darkside> woo
[22:38] <Darkside> its still going
[22:38] <jcoxon> Darkside, batteries are dying
[22:39] <DG0CAW> has spot other batteries?
[22:39] <jcoxon> DG0CAW, yes
[22:39] <DG0CAW> okay
[22:39] <jcoxon> but it hasn't reported since 1905
[22:39] <jcoxon> but might wake up in hte morning
[22:40] <Darkside> whats going on with the batteries?
[22:40] <db3om> qrg of spot?
[22:40] <jcoxon> ummm embarrsingly we forgot to put fresh ones in
[22:40] <Darkside> is the signal fading in and out or something
[22:40] <Darkside> oh dear
[22:40] <jcoxon> i know
[22:40] <DG0CAW> yeah.. maybe. and the map refresh with spot automatically?
[22:40] <jcoxon> DG0CAW, yes
[22:40] <DG0CAW> okay
[22:41] <jcoxon> 29659m
[22:42] <jcoxon> $$4$$$XYBEN,&320,*2:41>23,48.897'3,9.18163,29657,-2367,46620,535;5AY0;0. *7DD
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[22:44] <jcoxon> 29682m
[22:45] <Upu> I reckon if you were plugged directly into this GT you'd have no issues decoding
[22:45] <jcoxon> nah
[22:45] <jcoxon> the issue is the transmission
[22:45] <jcoxon> those gps 1hz spikes are screwing up the decode
[22:46] <Upu> oh those are from the payload ?
[22:46] <jcoxon> yup
[22:46] <jcoxon> its hte gps module
[22:46] <jcoxon> nmea
[22:46] <Upu> hows that creeping in ?
[22:46] <Upu> and what module is it ?
[22:47] <Darkside> so next time put a big capacitor on the power rails?
[22:47] <jcoxon> 29725m
[22:47] <jcoxon> next time put new batteries in
[22:47] <Laurenceb_> heh
[22:47] <db3om> great idea LOL
[22:48] <Upu> ok I'm going to drop off this global tuner
[22:48] <jcoxon> boom
[22:48] <jcoxon> another string
[22:49] <Upu> nice
[22:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> im off, best of luck with the rest of the flight and spot in the morning. GN all
[22:51] <jcoxon> thanks OZ1SKY_Brian
[22:51] <Upu> night Brian
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[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> anyone still awake :)?
[22:53] <DG0CAW> ja
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> hi
[22:53] <fsphil> zzzz
[22:53] <DG0CAW> do you receive any signals?
[22:53] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander, i send a balloon to you and you aren't even around!
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> oh sorry
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> activating spacenar
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> *spacenear
[22:54] <Upu> activate dl-fldigi :)
[22:54] <jcoxon> 29727
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> problem is that my audio cable is with raul
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[22:55] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: get a new one!
[22:55] <DG0CAW> nimm das mikrofon !
[22:55] <Darkside> you should always have a few lyig around
[22:55] <jcoxon> $$XABEN,2361,24:55:03,48*87538,10.70472(29737,-23*8,45(72,595;5EA0;1.5*895B
[22:55] <Lunar_Lander> yeah problem is that I didn't plan ahead :(
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> let me try something
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[22:57] <DG0CAW> its late. good night. good luck with spot.
[22:57] <jcoxon> thanks DG0CAW
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[22:57] <Lunar_Lander> new problem
[22:57] <citrus> hi jcoxon
[22:57] <Lunar_Lander> the antenna is with raul as well
[22:58] <citrus> :)))
[22:59] <Upu> Lunar you fail twice
[22:59] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[22:59] <Upu> never mind
[22:59] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[22:59] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> why did SPOT stop over france?
[23:00] <Upu> remember for next time have your emergency HAB kit to hand
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[23:00] <Upu> no sure, too cold ?
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> at least I kept the yaesu here
[23:00] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander, its stopped, too cold
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:01] <jcoxon> $$$$$$XABEN,2377,23:00:23,48.87055,10.t2719,29722,-24.5,44n38,5;5;5EA0;1.1*8BEA
[23:02] <navrac> looks good
[23:03] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon: what is the predicted trajectory?
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[23:04] Action: griffonbot is GriffonBot [http://github.com/ssb/griffonbot]
[23:04] Action: griffonbot is following: #ukhas #cusf #atlasballoon #projecthorus #HABE2
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[23:04] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander, same direction really
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander> so Austria, Slovenia, Hungary and Romania?
[23:05] <Upu> its staying on that path at the moment
[23:05] <jcoxon> another string
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:05] <Upu> http://nstar.org/GFS/10mb/10mb.012.png
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander> and then Moldova, Ukraine, black sea
[23:05] <Upu> may a little southward movement
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander> Upu: prediction there?
[23:05] <SpeedEvil> Why does the predictor in some cases say it shoots up north?
[23:05] <SpeedEvil> after a few hundred km
[23:06] <Upu> SpeedEvil its a bug I think
[23:06] <Upu> Lunar_Lander I think you're correct
[23:06] <griffonbot> @Daniel_Richman: #ukhas griffonbot test :-) [http://twitter.com/Daniel_Richman/status/168833328869425152]
[23:06] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:06] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon: looks like the ATLAS III (was it that?) trajectory
[23:06] <Upu> Apex Alpha
[23:07] <Upu> I should call it a night
[23:07] <Upu> fingers crossed SPOT wakes up in the morning
[23:08] <Upu> great flight thanks jcoxon
[23:08] <Upu> + RocketBoy
[23:08] <Upu> nn
[23:09] <Laurenceb_> float looks very stable now
[23:11] <Lunar_Lander> no
[23:11] <Lunar_Lander> I meant Jcoxons planned floater that burst and landed in the north sea
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[23:18] <jcoxon> 48.82289,10.83913,29808
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[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon:
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> which balloon was it that burst before it floated?
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> one of the atlas series IIRC
[23:19] <jcoxon> lots
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> I mean your balloon that was intended to be a floater
[23:22] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon:
[23:22] <jcoxon> i'm not sure which one you mean
[23:22] <jcoxon> atlas 3 did float a bit
[23:23] <jcoxon> 12hrs flight time
[23:23] <RocketBoy> right I'm off to bed - lets hope spot wakes up when it gets warmer.
[23:23] <Lunar_Lander> there was one that you said was damaged by high winds during inflation
[23:23] <Lunar_Lander> good night RocketBoy
[23:23] <Lunar_Lander> it first went north from Cambridge and then due east but burst and landed in the north sea
[23:23] <Lunar_Lander> atlas 4 maybe?
[23:24] <jcoxon> atlas3
[23:24] <priyesh> when was the last sentence received?
[23:24] <jcoxon> last full string? or partial string
[23:24] <priyesh> partial
[23:24] <priyesh> full was at 11:04 iirc
[23:25] <jcoxon> i'm still getting data
[23:25] <priyesh> nice :)
[23:25] <jcoxon> $$$SXABEM,2450,23:15:02-48.7:497,W00X8,2\14,-22.1V49.70,5;5;5EA0]0.9*C98D
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[23:26] <priyesh> which antenna are you using?
[23:26] <jcoxon> globaltuners
[23:26] <jcoxon> german radio
[23:26] <priyesh> ah.. which tuner?
[23:26] <jcoxon> odenwald
[23:27] <jcoxon> $$$$!XABEL,2457,23:1622.48.79922,11.04065,2:830,*22.1,49.71,5;5?5EA0>0.9*BDF5
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[23:35] <jcoxon> 29811
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[23:40] <jcoxon> 48.72905,11.36815,29923
[23:42] <jcoxon> okay
[23:42] <jcoxon> thats it for tonight
[23:42] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:42] <jcoxon> we've beaten apex
[23:42] <Lunar_Lander> will hiena try to listen to the balloon?
[23:42] <jcoxon> sorry guys
[23:42] <Lunar_Lander> as he is in Hungary
[23:42] <jcoxon> nah it'll be dead by then
[23:43] <Lunar_Lander> ohhh
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[23:48] <griffonbot> Received email: James Coxon "Re: [UKHAS] XABEN + SPoT Long duration floater Sunday 12/2/12 1000ish"
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[23:49] <griffonbot> Received email: James Coxon "Re: [UKHAS] XABEN + SPoT Long duration floater Sunday 12/2/12 1000ish"
[23:49] <danielsaul> :(
[23:49] <priyesh> awww
[23:50] <priyesh> great flight jcoxon
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:51] <danielsaul> Would have been a better flight if it hadn't just beaten apex, jcoxon ;)
[23:51] <Lunar_Lander> good night
[23:51] <priyesh> haha
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