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[02:59] <NigelMoby> tum te tum
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[04:24] <shenki> linux.conf.au launch! http://spacenear.us/tracker/
[04:32] <SebastianFlyte> What exactly is this, shenki?
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[04:34] <shenki> SebastianFlyte: it's a small payload we launched at the end of a conference tlak we just gave
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[04:35] <SebastianFlyte> Is this live, or a replay?
[04:35] <topnobau> live
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[04:35] <SebastianFlyte> Cool.
[04:36] <lokulin> ^^ seconds that
[04:36] <topnobau> love the http://spacenear.us/tracker/ web page its sweet
[04:37] <SebastianFlyte> I'd like to do this to... but how can I be assured that my balloon will not crash into a A380 flying into Atlanta?
[04:37] <SebastianFlyte> We live 22 miles NW of Washington, DC.
[04:37] <SebastianFlyte> Lots, LOTS of commercial air traffic here.
[04:39] <SebastianFlyte> Or do I figure, worst case, my balloon will be sucked into one of the four engines, and if Airbus' engineers are reasonably competent, they can land in Atlanta with 3 engines.
[04:39] <SebastianFlyte> right?
[04:40] <daveake_> No guarantees. YOu minimize risk by where you launch, when you launch, and what you launch. Make it as lightweight as possible.
[04:40] <daveake_> And add a radar reflector.
[04:41] <SebastianFlyte> So 100 km west of Melbourne is a relatively traffic-free area?
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[04:41] <daveake_> Dunno, I'm in the UK :)
[04:42] <daveake_> I've got nothing to do with this flight
[04:42] <SebastianFlyte> This balloon is in Australia, it would seem, and headed straight to Geelong!
[04:44] <SebastianFlyte> A stray wind from the N might bring it to Moorabool
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[04:46] <SebastianFlyte> There seems to be some debate here in the US between traditional R/C model airplane flyers, and these kids flying DIY UAVs.
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[05:02] <polycarbonate1> I'm gonna lol so hard if this balloon splashes down off Geelong
[05:04] <topnobau> not looking good atm
[05:08] <SebastianFlyte> Wonthaggi is under peril...
[05:08] <polycarbonate1> oh dear...
[05:08] <polycarbonate1> let's hope for some wind
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[05:11] <SebastianFlyte> OK, I think I figure this out... if the balloon bursts now,then it will descend, at the mercy of it's parachute, and it's landing point is estimated by the parachute icon... right??
[05:12] <SebastianFlyte> Right now, the point of landing (given balloon burst = now) is currently Port Philip Bay
[05:13] <polycarbonate1> SebastianFlyte: correct
[05:13] <SebastianFlyte> Thanks, poly...
[05:14] <SebastianFlyte> Given that, any estimates for when the balloon goes "boom"??
[05:15] <SebastianFlyte> This balloon, it would appear, is a dagger pointed straight to the heart of... Tasmania!
[05:15] <SebastianFlyte> God help us!
[05:15] <polycarbonate1> it _might_ make Mornington
[05:17] <topnobau> will it float? it was in a plastic bag so i'm thinking maybe
[05:17] <SebastianFlyte> Perhaps, polyc, but If I were in Rosebud West I'd forget lunch and flee towards Sydney.
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[05:55] <topnobau> its down i guess
[05:56] <SebastianFlyte> This was incredible.
[05:56] <topnobau> yeah
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[06:07] <guys> so is Horus going to land in the drink?
[06:07] <plantain> has landed in the drink
[06:08] <guys> thanks. How are people going to retrieve it?
[06:08] <plantain> they won't
[06:08] <SpeedEvil> Become mermaids.
[06:09] <guys> surely merpeople?
[06:09] <SpeedEvil> Sacrifices have to be made.
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[06:51] <Upu> morning
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[07:36] <fsphil> aye
[07:37] <NigelMoby> rar
[07:37] <SamSilver_> oich I
[07:37] <NigelMoby> its bloody cold out :(
[07:37] <fsphil> no frost here, but still looking nippy
[07:37] <SamSilver_> 24 deg c :)
[07:38] <NigelMoby> grr Sam!!
[07:38] <NigelMoby> -1 deg here
[07:38] <SpeedEvil> 4c - inside.
[07:38] <fsphil> uhoh, payload go splash
[07:38] <SpeedEvil> Electric blankets ++
[07:39] <SamSilver_> air-con on as humidity is around 90%
[07:39] <SpeedEvil> One room is almost in a heatable state - I need to finish it up today
[07:39] <SamSilver_> did you see Darkside flew a payload this morning
[07:47] <UpuWork> -2'c and Gas is still disconnected :/
[07:52] <eroomde> small spare room / home office with a pc and 2 large monitors running overnight
[07:54] <eroomde> so it's actually nice and warm
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[08:20] <fsphil> that's the second time I've been disconnected in 24 hours
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[10:16] <UpuWork> not saying its cold in here but : http://imagebin.org/194070
[10:16] <UpuWork> note his headset :)
[10:16] <SpeedEvil> What's the temperature?
[10:17] <SpeedEvil> Here it's 4.
[10:17] <UpuWork> -2 outside
[10:17] <UpuWork> about 2 inside
[10:18] <UpuWork> gas man is working
[10:18] <UpuWork> on it now
[10:18] <SpeedEvil> Why not simply stick on some fan heater?S
[10:19] <SpeedEvil> Hah.
[10:19] <SpeedEvil> Just checked npowers website to see if it's worth switching my tarrif
[10:19] <SpeedEvil> The old tarrif - 17p first units, 9p next, 728 first/year.
[10:19] <SpeedEvil> =~65/year
[10:20] <SpeedEvil> (effective standing charge)
[10:20] <SpeedEvil> The new tarrif - 145 a year explicit stanting charge, and .1p/unit cheaper
[10:21] <Upu> we have some fan heaters going its getting warmer
[10:22] <SpeedEvil> ah
[10:23] <cuddykid> set a resource hog on every machine - that should add some heat :P lol
[10:25] <SpeedEvil> That reminds me, I need to make some fingerless kittens.
[10:25] <SpeedEvil> err - mittens
[10:25] <daveake> lol
[10:28] <daveake> Was Horus recovered or is it lost at sea?
[10:33] <gonzo_> I noticed how much colder it was here, when they changed all the CRT monitors out
[10:34] <gonzo_> the mgmt celebrated how much we had saved on power, then later when the gas bill came in, got upset by the cost
[10:34] <SpeedEvil> :)
[10:41] <daveake> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2004-10-16/
[10:43] <gonzo_> yep, dilbert is as usual, depressingly accurate
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[10:45] <gonzo_> we had one of those green pushes and they asked for suggestions. All the actually useful suggestions were dismissed as being to expensive or they could not be bothered
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[11:20] <polycarbonate1> hahaha, I only just realise Joel Stanley == shenki
[11:20] <polycarbonate1> *realised
[11:21] <polycarbonate1> uhhhh
[11:21] <polycarbonate1> hang on
[11:21] <polycarbonate1> no
[11:21] <polycarbonate1> just no
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[11:40] <polycarbonate1> http://www.flickr.com/photos/polycarbonate1/sets/72157628909783141/
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[14:39] <cuddykid> hmm, the parcel is in nottingham but seems to be lingering about the depot - last tracked at the depot 13:16 today
[14:43] <gonzo_> must be a floater
[14:47] <cuddykid> very odd as it arrived at the depo and was sorted last night at 12:59am
[14:47] <cuddykid> bbl
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[15:08] Action: Laurenceb is in notts too 2day
[15:09] <Laurenceb> which depot?
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[15:37] <SamSilver> http://www.gizmag.com/polaroid-sc1630-smart-camera/21099/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=5e53a59b05-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email
[16:01] <cuddykid> Laurenceb: just got update finally - apparently they attempted delivery (which they didn't as I was in at that time!) now being held at post office - going to pop and collect now :D
[16:02] <Laurenceb> okj
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[16:04] <cuddykid> just got back off campus - extremely chilly out there
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[16:11] <cuddykid> went down to reception here - the lazy delivery driver didn't even bother to go to my block (most drivers do) - instead just left a note there!
[16:11] <cuddykid> right bbl - off to collect :P
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[16:28] <cuddykid> yay - spark fun goodies are in my hands
[16:31] <cuddykid> thanks sparkfun for declaring $100 worth of goods as $6.98 worth :D
[16:31] <nick_> Did you get free stuff?
[16:31] <daveake> not jealous. not jealous.
[16:31] <nick_> I had my dates wrong and missed the end by 30 mins :'(
[16:31] <nick_> Doesn't it make more sense to have a special day on the 12 Jan 2012?
[16:32] <cuddykid> nick_: yeah :) had to pay £20 for postage though - but I'm not complaining :P
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[16:38] <cuddykid> all there
[16:40] <UpuWork> who was it who suggested pink LED's ?
[16:41] <cuddykid> http://flic.kr/p/beou78
[16:41] <UpuWork> oh nice free stuff :)
[16:41] <UpuWork> http://imagebin.org/194095 Pink LEDS :)
[16:41] <cuddykid> UpuWork: not sure :/ I just got a superbright led :D
[16:41] <cuddykid> UpuWork: nice!
[16:44] <SpeedEvil> nick_: Surely dec 12 2012
[16:44] <SpeedEvil> err - 21
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[16:45] <Laurenceb> anyone here got stm32 hardware setup?
[16:45] <SpeedEvil> Define setup.
[16:46] <SpeedEvil> I have some in various poorly located regions throughout the hose.
[16:46] <SpeedEvil> Not actually plugged in.
[16:46] <SpeedEvil> Poorly located = with a high dilution of precision.
[16:46] <nick_> I was event going to get away with ~free shipping :(
[16:46] <SpeedEvil> meh.
[16:46] <SpeedEvil> That was part of the reason I diddn't claim
[16:47] <SpeedEvil> As it seemed likely that I'd get charged ~40 quid for customs brokerage + VAT + import duty
[16:47] <SpeedEvil> s/claim/try harder/
[16:48] <nick_> I have a guest flying over from America in a couple of weeks who would have been a mule for me.
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[16:49] <Laurenceb> im trying to test some i2c code
[16:49] <Laurenceb> do you have a storage scope?
[16:50] <SpeedEvil> Alas no.
[16:50] <Laurenceb> :(
[16:50] <SpeedEvil> nick_: Ah
[16:50] <SpeedEvil> nick_: Do they supply them in boxes you can jam up your arse then?
[16:51] <nick_> Depends how sexually adventurous you've previously been...
[16:51] <number10> that was me UpuWork
[16:53] <number10> nice
[16:53] <UpuWork> enjoy the pic then thats all your fault :)
[16:54] <number10> :) is good nice pic
[16:55] <UpuWork> got the boot loader on but it won't program via the AVR for some reason
[16:55] <UpuWork> though bootloader goes on fine via AVR
[16:55] <nick_> I wonder how airport security like you bringing components on a plane.
[16:56] <BrainDamage> build something like this http://i.imgur.com/aRB2L.jpg
[16:56] <UpuWork> lol
[16:56] <UpuWork> that is a dirty hack
[16:57] <UpuWork> and yeah
[16:57] <cuddykid> that is quite a hack lol
[16:57] <UpuWork> walk through customs with that in your pocket and I suspect you'll be delayed somewhat
[16:57] <cuddykid> lol
[16:57] <UpuWork> anyway home time bbs
[16:57] <cuddykid> probably never see the light of day again
[17:01] Action: LazyLeopard got taken down onto the tarmac at Nairobi to open a suitcase and show security the "electrical equipment" within... Could have saved myself some trouble if I'd left the Icom-706 out there... ;)
[17:02] <cuddykid> lol
[17:02] <nick_> People in airports already don't like me because they are pogonophobic.
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[17:16] <zyp> I was carrying a bag of five lipo batteries in my hand luggage when I was visiting my parents for christmas
[17:16] <zyp> the security guy looked very doubtful when he was looking through it
[17:18] <SpeedEvil> Lulz woudl be had if they tried to open them
[17:18] <zyp> these were rc helicopter lipos
[17:19] <SpeedEvil> I can imagine the reaction if the 'sealed foil bags' you were carrying caught fire as they were sliced into.
[17:19] <zyp> :)
[17:19] <zyp> I also brought a complete quadrotor in parts in checked luggage, no problems there
[17:20] <nick_> you have a quadrotor?
[17:20] <zyp> hard to bring it without having it
[17:21] <zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/TlmaY.JPG <- disassembled, ready for the flight
[17:22] <nick_> What do you do with it?
[17:22] <BrainDamage> replace the fans with hard edge sharp blades
[17:22] <BrainDamage> then go on assassination missions
[17:22] <zyp> believe me, they are sharp
[17:22] <zyp> :p
[17:23] <zyp> I'm not really doing anything with it yet, I'm writing my own controller firmware
[17:24] <BrainDamage> how much energy do those batteries pack?
[17:24] <BrainDamage> looks 200-300kJ by eyeball
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[17:24] <zyp> blue one is 55 Wh, others are 25 Wh
[17:25] <nick_> How long do they keep a quadrotor in the air?
[17:25] <BrainDamage> 380kJ, not too far
[17:25] <SpeedEvil> Typically under 10 mins
[17:25] <SpeedEvil> For most quadcopters.
[17:25] <SpeedEvil> hovering is a _hideously_ inefficient for of flight.
[17:25] <SpeedEvil> At least with small props
[17:25] <zyp> haven't been able to test that yet, controller firmware is not stable enough :p
[17:26] <BrainDamage> are you using a commercial IMU, or you rigged your own?
[17:27] <zyp> my own
[17:27] <nick_> IMU =?
[17:27] <BrainDamage> inertial measurement unit
[17:27] <BrainDamage> typically gyro + accelerometer + magnetometer
[17:28] <zyp> so far it's very incomplete, I'm kind of making a complete RTOS from ground up for it
[17:28] <BrainDamage> ( well, actually, the magnetometer is not strictly inertial measurement )
[17:31] <cuddykid> ping Upu
[17:31] <UpuHome> pong
[17:31] Nick change: UpuHome -> Upu
[17:31] <cuddykid> hiya - quick question
[17:31] <Upu> shoot
[17:31] <SpeedEvil> cuddykid: 41.9999999
[17:32] <cuddykid> why do you have lots of green cycles with crosses through under the ublox on pcb board?
[17:32] <cuddykid> SpeedEvil: uhh?!
[17:33] <Upu> yeah
[17:33] <Upu> =drill hole
[17:33] <Upu> and those are vias linking the top copper pour to the bottom one
[17:33] <Upu> that copper pour on both sides = GND
[17:33] <cuddykid> Upu: ahh right, how come so many drill holes?
[17:33] Action: Laurenceb is also trying to make an imu, and failing
[17:33] <Upu> we had this discussion last night I think :)
[17:34] <Upu> reduce inductance loops, make distances as short as possible
[17:34] <cuddykid> Upu: really?! lol can't remember - I remember the ground stuff
[17:34] <Upu> try and make the ground plane as linked as possible
[17:34] <cuddykid> Ahh yeah, it briefly remember seeing that - I think someone else was asking about the inductance stuff :P
[17:34] <cuddykid> thanks
[17:36] <Upu> if you review the hardware integration manual for the ublox 6 its all in there
[17:40] <Upu> I know this isn't the most exciting video but yay I did my first surface mount and I've made an Arduino clone with pink LEDS that works :)
[17:40] <Upu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-IjDV8oXDs
[17:41] <cuddykid> :D
[17:41] <cuddykid> that board looks brilliant
[17:41] <Upu> cheers
[17:42] <cuddykid> I wonder how much dust there is in my room - well now I'll be able to find out lol
[17:50] <cuddykid> oh - just looking at the data sheet for the superbright led that I've got -> uses: indicators and traffic lights lol
[17:50] <cuddykid> nothing states "night time hab flights"
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[18:02] <cuddykid> hmm - doesn't seem to be overly bright using arduino 5v pin
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[18:06] <cuddykid> eek - can't really see - that was *extremely* bright - ahhhh
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[18:16] <cuddykid> hmm - can anyone assist in the readings: 1.5 on 20mA reading; 15.4 on 200mA reading :S
[18:18] <Lando-Uni> Reading from what?
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[18:22] <cuddykid> Lando-Uni: multimeter
[18:23] <Lando-Uni> You're missing some units.
[18:23] <Lando-Uni> Are you measuring voltage or resistance.
[18:24] <Lando-Uni> Are you measuring voltage or resistance?
[18:25] <cuddykid> Lando-Uni: using the multimeter as an ammeter
[18:25] <cuddykid> on the 20mA setting it's displaying 1.5
[18:25] <Lando-Uni> 1.5 what.
[18:26] <cuddykid> that's what I was wondering as it's displaying 1.5 on 20mA setting and 15.4 on 200mA setting
[18:27] <Lando-Uni> Do you have a 10 ohm resistor in your multimeter?
[18:27] <cuddykid> Lando-Uni: haven't got a clue :S
[18:27] <hessu_> Can you post a picture (phone camera or whatever)?
[18:28] Nick change: hessu_ -> oh7lzb
[18:28] <cuddykid> packed away the circuitry however can take a photo of multimeter
[18:28] <oh7lzb> with the reading visible would be helpful
[18:31] <cuddykid> http://flic.kr/p/berhBT
[18:31] <cuddykid> but it displays 1.5 on that setting
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[20:44] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[20:46] <Lando-Uni> Lunar_Lander: Hey there, Loony Lander.
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[21:06] <choppyhorse> Sup everyone. I am planning on doing a balloon with launch date of mid to late May. I know nothing so I plan to be hanging out here until then.
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> hello choppyhorse
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> welcome
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[21:08] <SpeedEvil> hey.
[21:08] <NickB1> welcome
[21:08] <SpeedEvil> Do you have any goals?
[21:08] <cuddykid> choppyhorse: hiya :)
[21:12] <choppyhorse> thanks everyone.
[21:12] <choppyhorse> Goals? Well, primary goal is to get the thing up there and retrieve it. Second goal is photos/video. Third goal is temp/pressure measurements with altitude.
[21:12] <cuddykid> anyone know if the CAA have restrictions on lights attached to payload at night?! :P
[21:13] <cuddykid> choppyhorse: spot on - get a working payload (tracking etc) then build on a stable base
[21:13] <SpeedEvil> cuddykid: Interesting question.
[21:13] <cuddykid> SpeedEvil: I've got 2 nice bright leds that I want to give a whirl :D If anything pilots would be able to spot it easier
[21:14] <NickB1> choppyhorse: whats your experience with electronics ?
[21:15] <SpeedEvil> cuddykid: I have been wondering about a couple of 10W LEDs
[21:15] <SpeedEvil> cuddykid: 10W LEDs, little bit of insulating foam, teeny li-po cell, 20ms/s
[21:15] <SpeedEvil> Well - FET, and teeny micro too of course.
[21:16] <cuddykid> yep - would be interesting to see how far away it could be seen/tracked
[21:17] <SpeedEvil> 20W LED puts out ~5W of light. This is enough to illuminate to a level equivalent to a magnitude 4 star 5 billion square metres.
[21:18] <SpeedEvil> Or about 20km
[21:18] <SpeedEvil> This is relatively easily visible after stepping out of a modestly lit room into a clear night.
[21:19] <SpeedEvil> If you dark adapt you can get probably to 30-35km
[21:19] <SpeedEvil> And binoculars would get you at least 70km easily
[21:19] <SpeedEvil> (on a stand)
[21:20] <Dan-K2VOL> cuddykid, actually if they're like the FAA, they'd probably say - the more lights the better
[21:20] <choppyhorse> NickB1: I solder simple things regularly, program in C and Labview, but compared to someone with a degree in EE I am nothing. I think I will be all right.
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[21:21] <NickB1> shouldnt be a problem :)
[21:21] <cuddykid> choppyhorse: you're more than qualified for standard hab :)
[21:22] <cuddykid> Dan-K2VOL: great news
[21:24] Action: SpeedEvil sighs.
[21:25] <SpeedEvil> I have just put a lightbulb inside my fridge to heat it, so my banannas don't go brown.
[21:26] <daveake> Yes, that'll help :p
[21:27] <choppyhorse> what...
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[21:31] <cuddykid> lol SpeedEvil
[21:32] <navrac> welcome choppyhorse , ther are lots of us here learning for our first flight - and lots of helpful people here too who have done it before
[21:33] <SpeedEvil> At what point is this unregulated.
[21:33] <SpeedEvil> Should in principle your average 5-year-old be applying to the CAA before letting go of a balloon strung>?
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[22:31] <SparxEtch> Gosh. Arduino Mini is tempting
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[22:38] <Upu> thats basically what my flight computer is
[22:38] <Upu> just with added HAB its on it
[22:38] <eroomde> bits?
[22:38] <eroomde> has anyone played with simualavr? like properly integrating it into a toolchain
[22:38] <Upu> yup needed a 'b'
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[22:39] <Upu> never heard of it sorry
[22:39] <eroomde> avr simulator
[22:39] <eroomde> you can pass it a .elf file from avr-gcc
[22:39] <eroomde> and then you can run avr-gdb on it to play
[22:39] <Upu> I'm an Arduino boy
[22:39] <eroomde> or you can define, say, a virtual uart
[22:39] <Upu> and elf is a small fantasy creature out of Harry Potter movies
[22:40] <eroomde> and talk to the avr through stdin/out
[22:40] <eroomde> well, nvm then :)
[22:40] <Upu> i think I get what you're saying
[22:40] <eroomde> just thought it might be a useful thing for people to test their code (arduino produces it anyway) with a gps program
[22:40] <eroomde> so something like
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[22:41] <eroomde> ./fakegps | simulavr [bunch of flags] my_arduino_sketch.elf
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> Upu the Mini is a breadboard thing right?
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[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> i.e. it has pins to put it into a breadboard
[22:41] <eroomde> and then you can easily check the meridean/decimal point/minus sign handling
[22:41] <Upu> Yeah
[22:41] <Upu> http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardMini
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> how can you connect it? I doubt that you have a breadboard on the balloon
[22:42] <Upu> eroomde I have a GPS simulator which feeds into the serial port for that but I see what you mean
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> or do you have one?
[22:42] <Upu> the Mini ?
[22:42] <Upu> No I have my own custom board
[22:42] <eroomde> Upu: that's even better
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> Upu ah ok
[22:42] <Upu> http://imagebin.org/194095 <- With pink lED :)
[22:43] <Upu> but thats just an 8Mhz 3.3V Arduino Pro, well thats what I based the basic design on anyway
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> :) cool
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> I got almost the same battery holder and batts
[22:44] <Upu> anyway I'm having an early night
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> which I gave to raul
[22:44] <Upu> laters!
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> but as you know the radio refused to work
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> good night Upu
[22:44] <eroomde> Upu: surely you have to use avr-gcc to get the bootloader on and the fuses set correctly?
[22:44] <Upu> no eroomde you can use Arduino and program directly using a AVR ISP
[22:45] <Upu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X-IjDV8oXDs
[22:45] <eroomde> wow they've thouight of everything
[22:45] <Upu> See http://ava.upuaut.net/?p=236 just noted as I found out today it doesn't work if the ISP has a com port of greater than 4
[22:45] <Upu> i.e it needs to be 1-4
[22:46] <eroomde> uhuh
[22:47] <Upu> right really afk now night!
[22:47] <eroomde> see you
[22:49] <eroomde> oh yes i see
[22:50] <eroomde> tools > burn bootloader
[22:50] <eroomde> nice
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> in the arduino software, right?
[22:50] <eroomde> yeah
[22:50] <eroomde> i didn't realise it was that advanced
[22:50] <eroomde> i mean i guess it's an obvious feature as it is just a front end for the standard avr toolchain
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:51] <eroomde> but still, it wasn't like that in 2009 which was the last time i had to get the arduino bootloader onto a new pcb design
[22:52] <BrainDamage> mmm, pretty sure the function is in it from at least 1.5 years
[22:53] <eroomde> 2012 - 2009
[22:53] <eroomde> we had to flash it and set the fuses with avrdude
[22:53] <eroomde> it might jsut be because it has the word 'dude' in its name but avrdude is a really cool bit of software
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[22:54] <BrainDamage> no, I mean it was introduced shortly after you tried
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[22:54] <eroomde> oh i see
[22:55] <eroomde> that seems to be the way, always
[22:55] <eroomde> problem solved with a nice automatic way a few months after i've had to fight it manually
[22:55] <fsphil> I want armdude
[22:55] <eroomde> oh god yes
[22:55] <eroomde> openocd is very fussy
[22:56] <eroomde> again, trying to get a working toolchain with debugger on linux is hard work
[22:56] <fsphil> tis
[22:56] <BrainDamage> I'm using st-link utils written by texane and karlp with quite success
[22:56] <fsphil> I've given up a few times
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[22:56] <BrainDamage> I also get an arm eabi toolchain with 0 efforts
[22:56] <eroomde> unless you get someone else's build script and various old versions of various bits of software
[22:56] <BrainDamage> yaourt arm-none-eabi-gcc
[22:56] <eroomde> yeah st-link might be an easier way
[22:57] <BrainDamage> and arch compiled everything for me
[22:57] <eroomde> but i'd really like to get openOCD working if poss
[22:57] <BrainDamage> well, I got gdb server working too
[22:57] <BrainDamage> not 100% of functionlity, but quite enough
[22:57] <Laurenceb_> check out st-link on github
[22:57] <BrainDamage> stm32vldiscovery and stm32f4discovery boards
[22:57] <Laurenceb_> works nicely for me
[22:58] <Laurenceb_> the gdbserver is a bit poor
[22:58] <BrainDamage> yes, that's what I said 10 lines ago
[22:58] <Laurenceb_> doh
[22:58] <Laurenceb_> :P
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[22:59] <BrainDamage> also, if you want an arm toolchain under linux
[22:59] <BrainDamage> there's summon-arm-toolchain
[22:59] <BrainDamage> or download codesourcery's/mentor's
[23:01] <Laurenceb_> karlp is the man
[23:02] <Laurenceb_> i tried to get it running with nemiver but couldnt persuade it to play nice
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[23:03] <Laurenceb_> works with ddd
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[23:11] <eroomde> Laurenceb_: http://code.google.com/p/qstlink2/
[23:11] <eroomde> seen it?
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[23:12] <BrainDamage> openocd itself is getting stlink integration
[23:12] <BrainDamage> like 2 days ago a flow of patches started
[23:14] <eroomde> that will be cool
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