highaltitude.log.20111126

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[00:33] <fsphil-laptop> that prediction lands it pretty close to M0DTS
[00:33] <fsphil-laptop> I wonder if he's about
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[00:57] <fsphil-laptop> yay, gps lock
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[01:00] <Darkside> morning all
[01:01] <fsphil-laptop> mornin!
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[01:02] <fsphil-laptop> aaaand no lock
[01:02] <BrainDamage> 2 smoking barrels at least?
[01:03] <fsphil-laptop> afraid not even that
[01:03] <Lunar_Lander> good night
[01:03] <fsphil-laptop> night lunar
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[01:08] <fsphil-laptop> it's time to kick ass and cut more polystyrene. and I've loads of polystyrene
[01:08] <BrainDamage> random idea: add a vial of gasoline to the payload
[01:09] <BrainDamage> gasoline + polystyrene = napalm
[01:09] <BrainDamage> self disposing payload
[01:09] <fsphil-laptop> that's a kind of beacon
[01:09] <fsphil-laptop> "We've lost the signal, but the fireball is pretty visible"
[01:09] <fsphil-laptop> I'm not looking to set yorkshire on fire :)
[01:10] <SpeedEvil> Set keep-out zones so it only uses the fire on places that would benefit.
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[01:24] <fsphil-laptop> man this stuff gets everywhere
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[01:35] <fsphil-laptop> RF58 is just too ridged for small payloads
[01:35] <fsphil-laptop> RG58 even
[01:41] <NigeyS> lol u having fun there phil ?
[01:42] <fsphil-laptop> I'm knee deep in polystyrene bits
[01:42] <NigeyS> oh god
[01:42] <fsphil-laptop> always love the pre-launch build :)
[01:46] <fsphil-laptop> I forgot to print out a notice for it
[01:46] <fsphil-laptop> gonna have to use a hadie:3 one ... bit of a fib :)
[01:46] <NigeyS> sketch_nov26a.cpp:278:21: error: class TinyGPS has no member named navstatus
[01:47] <NigeyS> gonna screaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
[01:54] <fsphil-laptop> quietly?
[01:54] <NigeyS> very quietly, if i wake ez up she'll throttle me lol
[01:55] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[01:55] <fsphil-laptop> wise I think
[01:55] <NigeyS> right think ive got the new code sorted, time to upload it and see what goes poof
[01:55] Action: fsphil-laptop is applying the almighty yellow dust tape
[01:55] <NigeyS> yellow tape rox!
[01:56] <fsphil-laptop> and a bit of orange around the edge
[01:56] <fsphil-laptop> quite stylish :)
[01:56] <natrium42> not pink?
[01:57] <fsphil-laptop> nah
[01:57] <natrium42> :(
[02:00] <fsphil-laptop> this should be more noticeable
[02:04] <NigeyS> phil, to use the 1 pin stuff, i need to keep a0 high and set a1 to low yeah ?
[02:05] <natrium42> hey nigeyster
[02:05] <NigeyS> hey natrium42 !
[02:05] <fsphil-laptop> keep one high, and use the other for data
[02:05] <natrium42> so, are you guys watching the launch tomorrow?
[02:05] <NigeyS> hell yeah
[02:05] <Darkside> what launch?
[02:05] <Darkside> and what time
[02:06] <fsphil-laptop> curiosity?
[02:06] <NigeyS> mars lander thingymabobby
[02:06] <Darkside> ooooh
[02:06] <natrium42> yeah
[02:06] <natrium42> 1502 GMT
[02:06] <Darkside> i'll probably be asleep
[02:06] <natrium42> :O
[02:07] <natrium42> but it's the last time the rover will be close to earth
[02:07] <Darkside> natrium42: we're doing a launch tomorrow morning
[02:07] <Darkside> i need sleep
[02:07] <natrium42> aah, alright
[02:07] <natrium42> good luck!
[02:07] <fsphil-laptop> haha, this payload box doesn't have straight edges
[02:08] <fsphil-laptop> yikes, 2am
[02:08] <fsphil-laptop> better tidy up
[02:10] <natrium42> fsphil-laptop: where are you launching?
[02:10] <NigeyS> straight edges are overrated anyway phil :p
[02:12] <fsphil-laptop> natrium42, http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=5da12fd20ece67084dbb9e39fdd5897a27dfe523
[02:13] <fsphil-laptop> ooh gps lock
[02:16] <natrium42> haha, nice path
[02:17] <fsphil-laptop> it'll be interesting no matter what happens :)
[02:17] <natrium42> what's the payload? live pics?
[02:17] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[02:17] <natrium42> awesome
[02:17] <fsphil-laptop> just that - no fancy camera this time
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[02:17] <fsphil-laptop> since there's a pretty good chance it's not going to be recovered
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[02:18] <fsphil-laptop> lost the lock again
[02:18] <fsphil-laptop> must be a bad view of the sky or something
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[02:19] <fsphil-laptop> I've managed to recycle almost all of the last payload
[02:19] <fsphil-laptop> the one that was stuck in the tree for a month
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[02:44] <NigeyS> sketch_nov26a.cpp:207:1: error: expected unqualified-id before { token
[02:45] <NigeyS> in english that means what ?
[02:45] <Dan-K2VOL> you got a real mess in your arduino code
[02:46] <Dan-K2VOL> something is messed up right before a curly brace is all I can tell
[02:46] <NigeyS> oh yey
[02:46] <Dan-K2VOL> around line 207 in that .cpp file
[02:46] <Dan-K2VOL> which is an interim compile product file that will appear in a temp directory when you try to build
[02:47] <Dan-K2VOL> probably
[02:48] <NigeyS> meh this sucks
[02:51] <fsphil-laptop> afraid I can't help, struggling to stay awake
[02:51] <Dan-K2VOL> *offers fsphil-laptop a pillow*
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[02:53] <Dan-K2VOL> or are you working on hadie fsphil-laptop
[02:53] <Dan-K2VOL> in that case *hands fsphil-laptop a tall grande mocha latte*
[02:53] <Dan-K2VOL> :-P
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[02:55] <fsphil-laptop> was working on it
[02:55] <fsphil-laptop> stopped now
[02:56] <fsphil-laptop> bed is calling
[02:56] <fsphil-laptop> g'night!
[02:56] <Dan-K2VOL> good plan
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[02:56] <Dan-K2VOL> night!
[02:58] <NigeyS> im off to, while i still have my sanity! lol catch you tomorrow Dan :)
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[02:58] <Dan-K2VOL> ttyl NigeyS! look forward to the weekend's flights!
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[03:51] <Darkside> http://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/VK5ZM-11
[03:51] <Darkside> well that works nicely
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[08:51] <Upu> morning
[08:52] <Darkside> hey Upu
[08:52] <Upu> nice sunny day here in the UK
[08:53] <Upu> no wait its raining again
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[09:21] <eroomde> morning all
[09:25] <Upu> morning Ed
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[09:27] <eroomde> morning Upu
[09:27] <eroomde> all well?
[09:31] <jcoxon> hey eroomde
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[09:31] <Darkside> hey vk5gr
[09:31] <eroomde> hey jcoxon
[09:32] <vk5gr> hi darkside
[09:32] <vk5gr> just looking at predictions and maps
[09:32] <Darkside> its looking better for tomorrow morning
[09:32] <vk5gr> not sure that a 8am launch is a good idea - the afternoon looks much better - keeps us away from landing in both the river and the army test range
[09:32] <Darkside> apart from a possible splashdown in the murray
[09:32] <Darkside> hrm
[09:32] <Darkside> where is the test range?
[09:33] <vk5gr> due east of murray bridge - the pred i just rang has us landing just south of it - now thats a little too close based on the predictions alone
[09:33] <vk5gr> http://www.murraylands.info/mapsandtowns/maps.aspx
[09:34] <jcoxon> eroomde, had a look at the whitestar pressure data?
[09:34] <vk5gr> you can see it clearly here. the pred here http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=563bef188070f90da8528d39a8b968416af9fc50 puts us near Monteith - but these preds I trust to about +/- 20km
[09:34] <Darkside> hmm
[09:35] <Darkside> yeah its all going to change
[09:35] <vk5gr> a 2pm or 3pm launch gets us out towards cooke plains back in more familiar and open country - away from the river and the army range
[09:35] <Darkside> hrm
[09:37] <vk5gr> the other hassle is the cloud cover. it should be pretty clear by morning, but there is a front coming, the later launch risks it arriving - although I think it is late enough to have us at least have made apogee before it arrives - the morning forecast is talking about fog out in the Murray lands too
[09:37] <Darkside> yeah the front is going to sctew up the predictions
[09:37] <vk5gr> patchy cloud for the day - again pojnts to a later liftoff being better perhaps?
[09:37] <Darkside> also glider pilot friend is saying the front will hit in the morning
[09:38] <Darkside> 6 hours ahead of schedule
[09:38] <vk5gr> if anything the front should push us further east into safer landing contry (other than landing in Ngarkatt of course)
[09:39] <vk5gr> hmm - possible too - depends how fast it is moving. if it is coming up more from the SW in a NW direction then it will arrive early - if it is trending more W then it will arrive later
[09:39] <vk5gr> is terry around?
[09:39] <vk5gr> ping juxta
[09:39] <Darkside> dunno
[09:39] <Darkside> so apparently its further ahead than its meant to be right now
[09:39] <vk5gr> was going to head over to cookies shortly to set up the router and antennas so we can be fully shaken down before leaving adelaide.
[09:40] <Darkside> ok
[09:40] <vk5gr> main plan is to have everything ready so we can be at Grahams at 7am - but it would be nice to decide tonight that we are not going to fly early
[09:40] <Darkside> i still think morning is going to be best for video
[09:40] <Darkside> but yeah, there is the chance it'll land in a bad place
[09:40] <vk5gr> thats fine provided we can recover it and dont loose it in the river or have major hassle getting at it in the firing range.
[09:42] <vk5gr> worst case we end up lanidng in Murray Bridge township too - that wouldnt be good with a long balloon train
[09:43] <Darkside> hrmm
[09:46] <vk5gr> just looked at the front over WA again - it could be here around 11am if it keeps up the current rate of travel. bugger :-(
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[09:47] <Darkside> hey juxta_
[09:49] <vk5gr> hi juxta
[09:49] <vk5gr> have you been looking at the preds?
[09:49] <Darkside> i think it may have just been his computer timing out
[09:49] <Darkside> and his client reconnecting
[09:50] <juxta> hey vk5gr, Darkside
[09:50] <vk5gr> hi terry
[09:51] <juxta> just went up to Graham's a little while ago and put everything together
[09:52] <vk5gr> great - is our little friend excited about his flight? :-)
[09:52] <Darkside> pics!
[09:52] <vk5gr> have you looked at the preds too?
[09:52] <juxta> yeah
[09:52] <vk5gr> not so sure about the 8am liftoff idea - bit concerned about landing in the army firing range
[09:52] <vk5gr> or worst - in the murray
[09:52] <juxta> yeah I know the one
[09:53] <vk5gr> or into murray bridge itself
[09:53] <juxta> from memory my flight chart says that's restrcited from 0 - 2500 ft only
[09:53] <juxta> I think we should be ok though - this is more like what we should see:
[09:53] <juxta> http://projecthorus.org/predict/#!/uuid=78b0214b4fa2c4a814017464d188cd576184ba0b
[09:53] <vk5gr> yes but if we land right in the middle of it it will no doubt make recovering difficult
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[10:13] <GW8RAK> Nothing to do with HAB'ing, but does anyone want any old low band VHF handhelds and mobile sets before I chuck them out?
[10:13] <GW8RAK> Yours for the cost of postage
[10:13] <jcoxon> GW8RAK, what sort of models?
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[10:14] <GW8RAK> Pye Reporters, M293's and P5001. Probably all AM
[10:14] <jcoxon> ummm i'm okay thanks
[10:14] <jcoxon> could email the ukhas list
[10:15] <GW8RAK> That's a common reaction to AM gear :)
[10:15] <jcoxon> hehe
[10:15] <fsphil> ooh rover launch in 5 hours
[10:15] <GW8RAK> Just seems a shame to chuck them in the bin
[10:15] <eroomde> AM?
[10:15] <eroomde> oh sorry you said that
[10:15] <GW8RAK> Amplitude Modulation = ancient modulation
[10:16] <eroomde> do you know that the freq is of the LO?
[10:16] <GW8RAK> 68 to 88 MHz
[10:16] <fsphil> people still do AM on 10m :)
[10:16] <eroomde> hrm
[10:16] <GW8RAK> And just noticed a Pye Westminster. 30W o/p
[10:17] <fsphil> you appear to have a lot of stuffs
[10:17] <GW8RAK> Too much shit
[10:17] <GW8RAK> :)
[10:17] <fsphil> lol
[10:18] <eroomde> not sure I can do much with AM
[10:18] <fsphil> same here.. after christmas I'm dumping a lot of stuff
[10:18] <fsphil> latest prediction for tomorrow: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=c23520fb1b7a4aecbf2fe9eee78972913c7bd2d8
[10:18] <GW8RAK> Oh go on Ed, think of something
[10:18] <eroomde> i want to do uplinks with a gps disciplined local oscillator and really really really tight input filters
[10:18] <eroomde> to get around the temperature drift issue
[10:18] <eroomde> so we can do much lower power uplinks
[10:19] <eroomde> just putting together a 10MHz GPS disciplined oscilators design as we speak
[10:21] <fsphil> gale force winds
[10:21] <eroomde> if i can plug that 10MHz into an off the shelf 2m/70cm Rx board as the LO, laughing
[10:21] <fsphil> hmm
[10:22] <jcoxon> fsphil, prob not best launch conditions
[10:23] <daveake> I've checked the predictions for next weekend ... I have a choice of a North Sea landing or somewhere in NE Holland :D
[10:24] <daveake> So I think I might wait.
[10:24] <fsphil> jcoxon, to be a bit calmer tomorrow. 14mph :)
[10:24] <fsphil> also sunny
[10:24] <fsphil> both popular destinations daveake :)
[10:25] <daveake> BTDT with one of them
[10:25] <daveake> I quite fancy a trip abroad to collect, but that's too far to have any chance of being in the area when it comes down
[10:25] <fsphil> I've yet to join the elite north sea group
[10:25] <fsphil> maybe tomorrow
[10:25] <daveake> You're a tree hugger
[10:25] <fsphil> indeed
[10:26] <daveake> I've yet to land in a tree :p
[10:26] Action: fsphil makes a copy of that line
[10:26] <daveake> cloud2 had a "no trees" sign on it. That worked .... no trees within 10 miles of where it landed :p
[10:27] Action: daveake thinks he will be reminded of that line pretty soon
[10:27] <fsphil> with the last few predictions, I think I need a "no RAF base" sign
[10:30] <daveake> :)
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[10:46] <fsphil> mmm toast
[10:47] <Jessica_Lily> anything on the toast?
[10:48] <fsphil> bit of butter
[11:02] <eroomde> i have pigs trotters on the hob atm
[11:02] <eroomde> not for breakfast
[11:02] <eroomde> i had toast for breakfast
[11:03] <eroomde> but trotters are braising for dinner - five friends announced they were coming to visit this weekend. thanks, friends.
[11:03] <eroomde> so trotter and pheasant pie
[11:05] <GW8RAK> Don't know if I fancy trotters
[11:12] <jonsowman> morning all
[11:15] <fsphil> mooooorning jonsowman
[11:15] <jonsowman> how are things fsphil
[11:16] <fsphil> not bad here, late night, bit tired :) you?
[11:18] <jonsowman> yeah not too bad
[11:18] <jonsowman> lots of work to do, can't be bothered to start
[11:18] <jonsowman> the usual
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[11:20] <fsphil> know that feeling :)
[11:22] <Jessica_Lily> fsphil i just had some toast
[11:22] <Jessica_Lily> :)
[11:23] Action: jonsowman wants toast
[11:23] <fsphil> it's great
[11:23] <Jessica_Lily> i'd give you some but im out of bread now
[11:23] <Jessica_Lily> and i want eggy bread now :(
[11:24] <fsphil> mmm boiled egg
[11:25] <jonsowman> damn it
[11:25] <jonsowman> forgot a line termination resistor this pcb
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[11:38] <jcoxon> fsphil, have they added packet to fldigi yet?
[11:41] <Jessica_Lily> rawrr
[11:41] <Jessica_Lily> so fsphil how are you?
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[11:54] <fsphil> jcoxon, there was code for it but it doesn't seem to have made a release yet
[11:55] <fsphil> Jessica_Lily, pre-launch panic :)
[11:55] <jonsowman> launching tomorrow then?
[11:55] <Jessica_Lily> cool
[11:55] <fsphil> hopefully
[11:55] <fsphil> nobody has got back to me though
[11:55] <Jessica_Lily> gotta highlight me to i can look when you do
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[11:56] <jonsowman> there you go :)
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[11:57] <fsphil> sweet
[11:57] <fsphil> thanks
[11:57] <fsphil> think I've got it setup in habitat fine - it's showing up in the payload list ok in the new dl-fldigi
[11:57] <jonsowman> :)
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[12:13] <Jessica_Lily> hm i wonder if i'll win this ebay auction
[12:14] <jonsowman> what's it for?
[12:14] <Jessica_Lily> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110777468744?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1426.l2649&autorefresh=true
[12:14] <jonsowman> haha
[12:14] <jonsowman> hab related then
[12:14] <Jessica_Lily> FUCK!
[12:14] <Jessica_Lily> fucking hate this
[12:14] <jonsowman> language :P
[12:14] <SpeedEvil> :)
[12:14] <Jessica_Lily> sorry
[12:14] <Jessica_Lily> >.<
[12:14] <Jessica_Lily> fucking snipers
[12:15] <Jessica_Lily> soory
[12:15] <Jessica_Lily> gahh whats wrong with me
[12:15] <Jessica_Lily> i need a plugin to stop me doing that
[12:15] <Jessica_Lily> :P
[12:15] <jonsowman> lol
[12:15] <SpeedEvil> If you're not sniping, you're doing it wrong.
[12:15] <Jessica_Lily> shut up -.-
[12:16] <SpeedEvil> This wouldn't be true if pople were sane, and decidd what price they'd be willing to pay, typed it, and walked away.
[12:16] Action: jcoxon sends Jessica_Lily to the naughty step for 2 minutes
[12:16] <SpeedEvil> Unfortunately, IRL, people look at the auction, and convince themselves they're willing to pay a higher price.
[12:16] <SpeedEvil> Hence - sniping is needed.
[12:17] <Jessica_Lily> i'll snipe you -.-
[12:17] <BrainDamage> ebay system doesn't help either, bringing the result up when it's close to expiration
[12:17] <BrainDamage> encouraging last-moment bidding
[12:18] <SpeedEvil> The only sane way to use ebay is to snipe, and not to look at the auction after you've decided on the price.
[12:18] <SpeedEvil> You have no more information at all than when you first looked at the auction and decided a price.
[12:19] <Jessica_Lily> blahh :(
[12:19] <BrainDamage> I agree, once I estimate a price in my head, I stick with it
[12:19] <Jessica_Lily> i hate ebay
[12:19] <Jessica_Lily> i wanted that
[12:19] <SpeedEvil> Meh.
[12:20] <SpeedEvil> Work out a price at which you're happy to lose it.
[12:20] <Jessica_Lily> meh & few hours some boots ^_^
[12:20] <SpeedEvil> Enter this price - 10p.
[12:20] <SpeedEvil> Or snipe it, and be more likely to get it.
[12:20] <Jessica_Lily> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320797527924?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 <3
[12:20] <Jessica_Lily> so pwetty
[12:21] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140649396898?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 - on my watch list.
[12:21] <BrainDamage> 1.15V vout min is quite interesting
[12:21] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300605053308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 - also - I need to buy a lot more of this.
[12:22] <Jessica_Lily> interesting :P
[12:22] <Jessica_Lily> i want some op-amps
[12:22] <jonsowman> Jessica_Lily: try maxim
[12:23] <fsphil> samples
[12:23] <Jessica_Lily> i use http://www.rapidonline.com/ :P
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[12:23] <jonsowman> indeed, you can free sample from many companies
[12:23] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[12:23] <Jessica_Lily> sup my german physicist
[12:23] <jonsowman> maxim, linear and analog are good places to start
[12:23] <SpeedEvil> Rapid are doing free ship on 10 quid or more orders.
[12:23] <Lunar_Lander> I just wanted to mention that I succeeded in following the ubuntu compiling tutorial
[12:23] <fsphil> this balloon is nearly a year old -- will that be a problem?
[12:23] <Lunar_Lander> I can now run dl-fldigi on ubuntu!
[12:24] <Jessica_Lily> :P
[12:24] <jonsowman> fsphil: as long as it's been kept dry and out of sunlight it'll probably be fine
[12:24] <fsphil> jonsowman, yea never out of the box and that was in a wardrobe
[12:25] <fsphil> it's a totex this time -- the last one was a kaymont
[12:25] <Lunar_Lander> I got one of those brown balloons from 1982 or so
[12:25] <jonsowman> should be fine i imagine
[12:25] <fsphil> ah well, if it bursts early it'll get a nice swim :)
[12:25] <jonsowman> heh
[12:26] <fsphil> are kaymont and totex equivalent from the burst calc point of view?
[12:26] <Darkside> hmm who is launching when
[12:27] <Darkside> we're launching in 9 hours
[12:27] <jonsowman> fsphil: i think so
[12:27] <jonsowman> they're very similar in any case
[12:29] <fsphil> burst altitude doesn't make a huge difference to the landing spot, as long as it's around 33km +/- 2km
[12:29] <fsphil> it should hit land
[12:29] <jonsowman> is someone recovering it?
[12:30] <fsphil> Upu I think is heading out if it lands near him
[12:30] <jonsowman> :)
[12:30] <fsphil> it's actually landing very near Rob, M0DTS
[12:31] <fsphil> well very, as in about 30 miles
[12:31] <fsphil> either way, I'm building it so nothing expensive is lost
[12:32] <fsphil> it'll be dark when it lands too so it's fairly unlikely
[12:32] <fsphil> to be found
[12:34] <fsphil> if it bursts at 33km, it's landing remarkably close to the hadie:2 landing spot
[12:44] <Darkside> nn
[12:46] <fsphil> night Darkside !
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[13:10] <russss> mars science laboratory launch coverage: http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/nasa-hd-tv
[13:11] <fsphil> that's a big rocket
[13:13] <fsphil> heading for lunch, hopefully back in time to watch!
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[13:54] <Lunar_Lander> "The great thing about the Internet is that you're connected to everyone else. The terrible thing about the Internet is that you're connected to everyone else - Vint Cerf"
[13:55] <Lunar_Lander> found on the ubuntu forums
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[13:57] <Lunar_Lander> damn
[13:58] <Lunar_Lander> whoo new arduinos!
[13:58] <Lunar_Lander> Uno R2 and Mega R3
[14:07] <SamSilver_> H2 being loaded
[14:07] <SamSilver_> 45 min to launch
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[14:33] <SamSilver_> 23 mins and counting - http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
[14:40] <x-f> thanks, almost forgot about that launch
[14:41] <Jessica_Lily> SpeedEvil thanks
[14:41] <Jessica_Lily> oops
[14:41] <Jessica_Lily> SamSilver_
[14:42] <SamSilver_> np
[14:42] <Laurenceb_> 9 mins to go XD
[14:43] <x-f> i think it will be in 18 minutes
[14:44] <Laurenceb_> ah built in hold?
[14:44] <x-f> "Launch window: 1502-1645 GMT"
[14:44] <NigelMoby> Meh
[14:45] <NigelMoby> if that skycrane works ill eat my arduino.
[14:45] Action: SpeedEvil passes NigelMoby a bananna, some ice-cream, and a blendtek blender.
[14:46] <NigelMoby> lol cheers!
[14:46] <NigelMoby> I've got 8 months to think of a nice recipe
[14:47] <SamSilver_> are the four towers are lightning conductors and water towers?
[14:47] <NigelMoby> Yuhuh
[14:48] <SamSilver_> lose the are
[14:48] <SamSilver_> 2nd one
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[14:54] <Upu> where did the count down timer go ?
[14:56] <natrium42> it was on hold
[14:56] <SpeedEvil> I think it said 15:12 launchtime
[14:56] <SpeedEvil> Assuming that's GMT
[14:56] <natrium42> SFN says 1502
[14:57] <Upu> min and a 1/4 left in the hold
[14:57] <SpeedEvil> ah
[14:57] <Upu> planned 4 min hold apparently
[14:57] <Upu> check all the LED's are lit up
[14:58] <Paradoxial> Lunar_Lander: Hi
[14:59] <Lunar_Lander> T-3
[14:59] <Lunar_Lander> hi Paradoxial
[14:59] <Lunar_Lander> pressurizing tanks
[14:59] <NigelMoby> they need more leds!!
[15:00] <Lunar_Lander> T-2
[15:00] <SamSilver_> I have not seen a single blue led at all
[15:00] <Lunar_Lander> power internal
[15:00] <NigelMoby> lol
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> T-1
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> range green
[15:01] <NigelMoby> lovely view of a $2bn rocket and payload.
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> T-40
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> T-30
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> T-10
[15:02] <Lunar_Lander> RD-180 fire
[15:02] <Lunar_Lander> LIFTOFF
[15:02] <daveake> It's almost like being there :)
[15:02] <SamSilver_> then the birds fly loike the end of the world has come
[15:02] <SamSilver_> like
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> MaxQ
[15:04] <Lunar_Lander> SRP sep
[15:04] <Lunar_Lander> *SRB
[15:04] <Upu> bit quicker to get up there than a balloon
[15:04] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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[15:05] <Lunar_Lander> hi GW8RAK
[15:05] <GW8RAK> Hi Kevin
[15:05] <Lunar_Lander> fairing separated
[15:06] <GW8RAK> Following this morning's sort out of junk, I've now found 4 UHF handhelds. P5001.
[15:06] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[15:06] <GW8RAK> These use plug in modules so could be of use to someone.
[15:06] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:06] <GW8RAK> Free for the cost of postage
[15:06] <GW8RAK> Any interest?
[15:06] <GW8RAK> Before I junk them?
[15:06] <Lunar_Lander> MECO
[15:07] <Upu> what are they GW8RAK ?
[15:07] <Lunar_Lander> Centaur burning If I see that right
[15:07] <GW8RAK> Philips P5001's UHF FM
[15:08] <Upu> wow
[15:08] <Lunar_Lander> T+5:30
[15:08] <jonsowman> truly fantastic user manual
[15:08] <jonsowman> http://www.pmrconversion.info/manuals/pye/P5001.pdf
[15:08] <Upu> check that pringle jumper out
[15:08] <Lunar_Lander> T+6 minutes
[15:08] <Upu> I'm ok thx GW8RAK
[15:09] <GW8RAK> Damn. :)
[15:09] <GW8RAK> In the skip then
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[15:10] <fsphil> aah, missed the launch
[15:11] <GW8RAK> Microphones or speakers of any use?
[15:12] <Lunar_Lander> 2 minutes to MECO-1
[15:13] <Upu> best Kerbals launch ever...
[15:13] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[15:13] <Lunar_Lander> MECO-1 coming up
[15:13] <Lunar_Lander> MECO-1
[15:14] <Lunar_Lander> next firing at 31 minutes
[15:14] <Laurenceb_> telemetery is awesome
[15:15] <Lunar_Lander> next firing is 8 minutes and 0.4 seconds
[15:15] <Lunar_Lander> after that, it is on its way to mars
[15:16] <Lunar_Lander> after that, 3:42.7 later, Curiosity is seperated from the Centaur
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[15:18] <fsphil> nasa tv needs to get onto one of the european satellites
[15:19] <fsphil> the HD one
[15:19] <gonzo_> I remember the P5000 hhelds, used to have some on 70cm
[15:19] <fsphil> not sure I like all this data loss he's mentioning
[15:20] <gonzo_> agreed, only thing I'd consider getting a tv for
[15:22] <fsphil> BR-Alpha used to show a lot of the ESA launches. not sure if they still do
[15:25] <fsphil> more data loss. these guys need more tracker :)
[15:25] <fsphil> trackers*
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[15:26] <staylo> yeah, and they don't even mark the retrieve car on the map :)
[15:28] <NigelMoby> lol, not gonna do a phobos is it? :p
[15:32] <fsphil> wonder if there's a backup radio
[15:32] <fsphil> or maybe the receiver satellite isn't working right
[15:35] <russss> sounds like a TDRSS issue
[15:35] <fsphil> looks like they're all HP keyboards
[15:35] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[15:35] <Laurenceb_> they broke it
[15:36] <Laurenceb_> hopefully just the datalink :P
[15:36] <NigelMoby> please work properly, bad enough we got 1 craft that might plummet to cardiff! don't want another.
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> LIVE TLM DATA
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[15:39] <doughecka> glitchy
[15:41] <SamSilver_> the old freq drift
[15:41] <doughecka> that would do it
[15:42] <SamSilver_> they should never have used those beagelboards
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[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> ecc. is over 1, so the orbit isn't closed anymore
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> cutoff
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> MECO-2
[15:43] <SpeedEvil> There is another stage for proper mars injection, and then a longish coast phase?
[15:43] <SamSilver_> it will be above me soon, tracking from SA at the moment
[15:43] <Lunar_Lander> well, the ground track shows it over the indian ocean
[15:43] <Lunar_Lander> and it is already on the way to mars
[15:44] <fsphil> ooh live view of the separation
[15:44] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[15:44] <Lunar_Lander> 2 minutes
[15:44] <Lunar_Lander> when this is done, the atlas mission is complete
[15:45] <fsphil> disco ball in space!
[15:45] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[15:46] <russss> haha
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[15:46] <SamSilver_> I am on the indian ocean coast
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[15:46] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[15:46] <Lunar_Lander> sep of MSL
[15:46] <fsphil> oh that was smooooth
[15:46] <Lunar_Lander> we're done!
[15:47] <fsphil> now.. that was the easy bit lol
[15:47] <doughecka> click.... cya
[15:47] <doughecka> :)
[15:47] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[15:47] <staylo> in space no-one can hear you whistle the blue danube
[15:48] <doughecka> did they spin it up ahead of time?
[15:48] <fsphil> spin then separate
[15:48] <doughecka> figured that... I must have missed the spinup
[15:49] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:49] <Lunar_Lander> 15 deg/sec
[15:49] <Lunar_Lander> about 4 rpm
[15:50] <fsphil> that's a big room
[15:50] <doughecka> so they lost video that quickly? what'd they do to the atlas, tumble it away?
[15:51] <russss> atlas will re-enter
[15:51] <fsphil> centaur goes into orbit around the sun
[15:51] <fsphil> atlas comes back
[15:51] <russss> and centaur will go into heliocentric orbit
[15:52] <fsphil> man it's really windy here
[15:52] <fsphil> I hope this calms down for tomorrow
[15:52] <NigelMoby> gales tomorrow :p
[15:52] <Lunar_Lander> LOL mike check
[15:54] <Upu> yeah is windy, raining and most concerningly dark here
[15:54] <NigelMoby> Eek
[15:55] <Upu> "we have a mutual aquistion, and that Russia is how you do it.."
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[15:55] <NigelMoby> lol
[15:56] <NigelMoby> hey Tim
[15:56] <TimZaman> hi guys
[15:56] <Lunar_Lander> how does a "very happy spacecraft on the way to mars" look like?
[15:56] <Lunar_Lander> hi TimZaman
[15:56] <TimZaman> hello
[15:56] <Lunar_Lander> did you just watch the MSL flight?
[15:57] <hibby> Zuph: ping
[15:57] <russss> well we'll see what happens in 8.5 months' time, that'll be the exciting bit.
[15:57] <x-f> that and Nigey eating an Arduino :)
[15:58] <Upu> should be interesting
[15:59] <NigelMoby> ill get plenty of ketchup.
[15:59] <Upu> its got frikkin lasers!
[15:59] <Upu> it has to work
[15:59] <Lunar_Lander> XD!
[16:00] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[16:00] <Lunar_Lander> I found a good citation on how important preperation is
[16:00] <Lunar_Lander> " Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe." (Abraham Lincoln, 1809-65 "
[16:03] <fsphil> "tweeps" ... I want to punch him
[16:04] <hibby> fsphil: stephen fry?
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[16:06] <fsphil> whoever's on nasa tv right now
[16:06] <fsphil> well, the guy before him
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[16:06] <fsphil> this guy just said "nasa invented planetary science"
[16:07] <fsphil> didn't russia do that?
[16:11] <SpeedEvil> Russia did the moon first.
[16:11] <SpeedEvil> But I think NASA did mars first.
[16:11] <SpeedEvil> So - technically.
[16:11] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[16:11] <Lunar_Lander> mariner 2 was the first to venus
[16:12] <Lunar_Lander> and the first succesful planetary probe
[16:12] <fsphil> ah.. so the first interplanetary mission was nasa?
[16:12] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> I'd question that really.
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[16:17] <SpeedEvil> Basically, as spectroscopy and imaging is also planetary science.
[16:17] <SpeedEvil> Even back in the days of Galileo.
[16:17] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:17] <Lunar_Lander> he is only right in the terms of "flying to the planets directly"
[16:18] <Paradoxial> How about: NASA invented many items relating to planetary science
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> NACA did heaps.
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> (the predecessor of NASA)
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> In many ways, NACA was a much more sane body.
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> Less poisoned by money.
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[16:21] <fsphil> "ganamaid"
[16:24] <ruku> So... what options are there for sending images down from a balloon? Right now I have SSTV and AX.25
[16:25] <Paradoxial> Now we just have to wait until August(:
[16:25] <fsphil> how do you send the images through ax.25?
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[16:26] <hibby> ruku: can I suggest SSDV
[16:27] <ruku> fsphil: I was gonna guess break up the image into 255 byte chunks and transmit over 9600 baud
[16:27] <fsphil> ahh
[16:27] <ruku> AX.25 does allow for a "Did you get it? Yeah I did!" thing...
[16:27] <ruku> hibby: *googles*
[16:27] <hibby> ruku: just ask fsphil, he wrote it
[16:28] <ruku> Ha! Look, there it is.
[16:28] Action: ruku reads.
[16:28] <fsphil> that's pretty similar to SSDV except it has no specified way to request a packet be retransmitted (although that would work)
[16:28] <fsphil> but it does have error correction and can handle missing packets
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[16:29] <fsphil> I believe the Horus team was thinking about wrapping ssdv into ax.25 packets
[16:29] <ruku> What were you transmitting with?
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[16:29] <fsphil> ntx2 at the moment
[16:29] <fsphil> 10mw LPD
[16:30] <fsphil> keep the speeds down due to the low power - only 300 baud
[16:31] <ruku> What's the modulation? FSK?
[16:31] <fsphil> yea
[16:31] <fsphil> it's actually rtty - but the format could work over any mode that can send 8-bit data
[16:33] <ruku> How were you handling the JPG data? Is that your beagle board?
[16:34] <fsphil> it's done on an atmega - it streams in the jpeg data from a small uart camera, and writes the packets as it does that. so it doesn't need to store the entire image
[16:35] <fsphil> it's pretty efficient
[16:35] <fsphil> although that requires the jpeg conform to some limitations
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[16:38] <ruku> humm.
[16:38] Action: ruku reads your code.
[16:38] <ruku> Out of interest, how is habitat doing?
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[16:40] <fsphil> seems to be working well now
[16:40] <fsphil> it's handling all the flight telemetry now
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[16:41] <ruku> On the last flight I was on, I generated KML files from the telemetry data, and viewed them in real time APRS.fi style
[16:42] <ruku> I was actually working on a little java app to handle it... Its about 25% done.
[16:42] <fsphil> nice
[16:42] <fsphil> I've a little open street map program that pulls data from habitat, gonna try that tomorrow
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[16:46] <ruku> The Google Earth was neat though, because you could get a 3D plot of the balloon's position, and correlate that with the flight prediction.
[16:46] <ruku> And of course, we had our vehicles there too. XD
[16:47] <ruku> As soon as I get the code in a presentable state I'll put it up!
[16:47] <ruku> Though... it only parses APRS packets from TinyTrak modules right now.
[16:47] <ruku> Bob Burringa is making me cry inside... Your packet structure is actually sane.
[16:48] <fsphil> lol
[16:48] <fsphil> yes he's given me a migraine more than a few times
[16:49] <ruku> In reality though, you're not really using APRS... its more like AX.25
[16:51] <fsphil> it's the minimum needed
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[16:53] <ruku> We have a KPC-9612+ here... Apparently it will send you raw binary data from the packet recieved.
[16:53] <ruku> I was kinda excited about that... no mangling from the TNC.
[16:53] <fsphil> nice
[16:55] <ruku> Anyways. The reason I'm asking is my professor's interested in flying down in South America, and he's worried about not getting the balloon back.
[16:55] <ruku> Worst case, he at least wants to get a few photos from it.
[16:56] <fsphil> that was my thinking too :)
[16:56] <fsphil> the one I (may) be flying tomorrow is unlikely to be recovered
[16:59] <ruku> How bad are we talking here?
[17:00] <fsphil> here's the prediction: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=c23520fb1b7a4aecbf2fe9eee78972913c7bd2d8
[17:01] <fsphil> I'm certainly not chasing it :)
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[17:05] <fsphil> my signal is bouncing all over the place
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[17:07] <ruku> Haha, holy cow! That's quite a flight.
[17:07] <NigeyS> fsphil, guantanamo is nice this time of year btw ;)
[17:08] <fsphil> ruku, I did it once before but the antenna failed so I didn't get more than 4 images
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[17:08] <fsphil> brb, need to find out who's coming to the launch
[17:16] <NigeyS> jonsowman about ?
[17:16] <jonsowman> hi NigeyS
[17:16] <NigeyS> hey Jon, mind if i /msg you a min ?
[17:16] <jonsowman> sure
[17:17] <Zuph> hibby: Late Pong
[17:22] <NigeyS> hey Zuph
[17:24] <Zuph> Hey NigeyS, how's it going?
[17:24] <NigeyS> haha not good
[17:35] <Zuph> Oh?
[17:36] <NigeyS> picochu-3 wants to fly to heathrow :(
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[17:37] <Zuph> No one *wants* to fly to heathrow.
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[17:38] <NigeyS> lol this biatch does
[17:38] <NigeyS> or gatwick
[17:38] <NigeyS> or fanborough
[17:39] <NigeyS> every sodding major airport in the south east and my balloon wants to hop over all of them in 1 flight lol
[17:39] <Zuph> hah
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[17:41] <fsphil> it wants to fly
[17:42] <NigeyS> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=4df0100615d87caa592f5c931ad237a07cd7a589
[17:42] <NigeyS> monday looks ok ..........
[17:42] <NigeyS> not an airport in sight!
[17:44] <Zuph> NigeyS: Just drive 50 miles north :-p
[17:45] <NigeyS> thats an option actually, i do have transport tomorrow
[17:45] <NigeyS> see what predictions are like tomorrow and decide then
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[18:02] <gonzo_> Do we usually liase with ATC during flights? Or just get clearance and that's it?
[18:02] <fsphil> I phone the night before
[18:02] <fsphil> let them know
[18:02] <fsphil> they usually phone the next morning to confirm
[18:03] <NigeyS> gonzo_, its a bit different with the foil balloons, they fly alot lower, at altitudes where they could potentially pose a risk, especially if they float
[18:04] <gonzo_> wondered if there are any ongoing updates of posn? eg passing and clearing controlled airspace
[18:05] <fsphil> not that I've heard of
[18:05] <fsphil> I'd say not unless it's a very big balloon
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[18:06] <gonzo_> would have thought the payloas is the bit that would cause the damage
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[18:07] <fsphil> balloon/payload combo
[18:07] <gonzo_> be interesting to know if the met office have a tracking feed into atc
[18:07] <fsphil> the big balloons could do pretty bad too
[18:07] <NigeyS> phil.. sondes!!
[18:07] <fsphil> no time for sondes today :)
[18:08] <fsphil> I want to be ready before 3am this time ;)
[18:08] <NigeyS> lol
[18:09] <gonzo_> apptly rolls royce engines have looked at the case of a latex balloon going through an engine. and they said thet the basic balloon would do no damage.
[18:09] <fsphil> good question on the met
[18:09] <gonzo_> half a dozen AA batts could be a different situation!
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[18:10] <gonzo_> I'll have to investigate
[18:10] <gonzo_> (if met feed tracking data that is)
[18:10] <SpeedEvil> li-po should be friendlier
[18:10] <gonzo_> how's the wx forcast for you tomorrowphil?
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[18:11] <fsphil> sunny and dry, although 10mph winds
[18:11] <NigeyS> SpeedEvil, except they tend to freeze :(
[18:11] <fsphil> I'm concerned about the wind - it might be too difficult to fill the balloon
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[18:11] <NigeyS> anywhere indoors u can fill ?
[18:12] <fsphil> nope, although there's a building we could stand near - might shelter us
[18:12] <NigeyS> might provide a bit of shelter, better than nothing
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[18:17] <gonzo_> you not able to fill under a tarp?
[18:18] <SamSilver_> someone keeps throwing HADIE down a 1m hole
[18:18] <fsphil> don't have one :)
[18:18] <fsphil> lol
[18:19] <fsphil> that's the gps module from hadie:3 -- I don't think it survived the stay in the tree very well
[18:19] <fsphil> it's misbehaving badly
[18:19] <fsphil> the wind outside is getting worse! my hf antenna fell down
[18:19] <fsphil> brb
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[18:39] <X-Scale> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VdhZ2r6lvs&feature=related
[18:41] <SamSilver_> I am now a Firefox convert!
[18:43] <SamSilver_> spelling is soooo over-rated
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[19:14] <Darkside> morning all
[19:15] <fsphil-laptop> morning!
[19:16] <LazyLeopard> All 8 at today's Intermediate course passed. :)
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[19:30] <fsphil-laptop> launching shortly Darkside?
[19:34] <NigeyS> morning Darkside
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[19:50] <Laurenceb_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT7sp56BMME
[19:55] <chris_99> might be off-topic, but i'm kind of curious as to whether a person could use weather balloons to reach an altitude where you could perform a HALO jump
[19:55] <chris_99> i'm guessing it should be possible
[19:58] <gonzo_> given enough lift
[19:58] <gonzo_> and life insurance
[19:58] <chris_99> haha yeah
[19:59] <chris_99> must be awesome to float through the air on a helium balloon the silence of it
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[20:00] <Lunar_Lander> back
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[20:05] <joph> thinking about a receiver with wifi, 433MHz receiver and a kite :D
[20:05] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
[20:06] <joph> power via line
[20:06] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:06] <joph> but then i could use the line also for ethernet...
[20:06] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> thanks to DanielRichman and jcoxon
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> for that http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi:build-ubuntu
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> tried it today and works!
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[20:39] <Darkside> guys
[20:39] <Darkside> DanielRichman: Randomskk
[20:39] <Darkside> data isnt showing up on the tracker
[20:40] <Darkside> i'm uploading it tho
[20:40] <Darkside> and it has the proper stuff
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[20:49] <Randomskk> uhm
[20:49] <Randomskk> no config doc for Horus found
[20:50] <Darkside> uh dear
[20:50] <Darkside> oh shit
[20:50] <Darkside> i bet it expired
[20:50] <Randomskk> ah pribs
[20:50] <Randomskk> might be able ti fix thus
[20:50] <Darkside> ok
[20:51] <Randomskk> from phone
[20:51] <Randomskk> lets see
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[20:54] <Randomskk> omg
[20:54] <Randomskk> got to couch
[20:55] <Randomskk> that is thr prob
[20:55] <Randomskk> cant dblclick on phone
[20:55] <Randomskk> so cant edit doc
[20:55] <Darkside> shit
[20:55] <Darkside> anything i can do?
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[21:06] <jcoxon> Evening
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[21:08] <VK5ZEA> test
[21:08] <fsphil-laptop> pass
[21:09] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:09] <Lunar_Lander> hey jcoxon
[21:10] <Lunar_Lander> I was able to compile dl-fldigi on ubuntu
[21:10] <jcoxon> Good work
[21:10] <fsphil-laptop> wait, project monkey in space?
[21:10] <fsphil-laptop> not even near space? ;)
[21:11] <jcoxon> Fsphil, how much experience of soundmodem do you have?
[21:11] <Darkside> pff
[21:11] <Darkside> shush fsphil-laptop
[21:11] <fsphil-laptop> the little command line modem thingy?
[21:12] <fsphil-laptop> not a word Darkside ;)
[21:12] <jcoxon> Yeah for packet on linux
[21:12] <fsphil-laptop> a little - I got it working with aprx (an igate)
[21:13] <jcoxon> Been playing today
[21:13] <jcoxon> You need good signal to decode I'm finding
[21:13] <fsphil-laptop> I do remember it took me a few goes to get it going -- it's not terribly friendly
[21:13] <jcoxon> Well I'm struggling to decode
[21:14] <fsphil-laptop> It's hit and miss -- the packets have no FEC
[21:14] <jcoxon> Yeah the rx'd ones fail their checksums
[21:15] <jcoxon> You seen that xkcd about forum posts when searching for help on the internet
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[21:15] <fsphil-laptop> yep lol
[21:16] <jcoxon> Google "/dev/soundmodem0"
[21:16] <fsphil-laptop> I've been there a few times
[21:17] <jcoxon> I think my wiki post is third down
[21:18] <fsphil-laptop> sometimes the volume can affect decoding -- there's a soundmodem gui that has a waveform scope, I usually adjust it so that the noise just fills it
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[21:19] <jcoxon> I suspect I need a better positioned antenna
[21:19] <fsphil-laptop> there's very little aprs here so I don't have much to test with -- iss was the most reliable when I was running the gate
[21:20] <jcoxon> We should implement a better version
[21:21] <jcoxon> Does the iss igate
[21:21] <jcoxon> ?
[21:21] <fsphil-laptop> nope, just repeats
[21:21] <fsphil-laptop> also has a bbs
[21:28] <fsphil-laptop> jcoxon, try multimon
[21:28] <fsphil-laptop> it's just a modem - dumps data to stdout
[21:29] <jcoxon> Packet as well?
[21:29] <fsphil-laptop> yep
[21:30] <fsphil-laptop> I used it before soundmodem, just to see what packets was being received
[21:30] <fsphil-laptop> it doesn't do anything useful with them other then display them
[21:31] <jcoxon> There is a perl Aprs lib
[21:31] <jcoxon> Could easily combine it
[21:32] <fsphil-laptop> oooh
[21:32] <fsphil-laptop> that'd work
[21:33] <DanielRichman> sup Darkside
[21:33] <fsphil-laptop> looking at fldigi's github, there is packet stuff in there
[21:34] <DanielRichman> ah right; reading other channel; d/w
[21:34] <fsphil-laptop> not github, git
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[21:40] <fsphil-laptop> jcoxon, just built fldigi from their git repo -- packet's there, and has a whole bunch of options
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[21:40] <jcoxon> Job done then :)
[21:41] <fsphil-laptop> can decode compressed packets, 300, 1200 or 2400 baud
[21:41] <jcoxon> Aprs to habitat to spacenear.us
[21:41] <fsphil-laptop> no idea if it actually works
[21:42] <jcoxon> We should add Aprs parsing and actually upstream it
[21:43] <fsphil-laptop> I'm not sure how it handles aprs
[21:43] <fsphil-laptop> it seems to have options that suggest it does at least partially
[21:44] <fsphil-laptop> SI vs. English units for example
[21:44] <fsphil-laptop> and the compressed data thing is APRS
[21:44] <fsphil-laptop> ax.25 doesn't do compression at all
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[22:00] <Laurenceb_> http://hampture.blogspot.com/
[22:00] <Laurenceb_> cant stop lolling
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[22:04] <plantain> Darkside: launched yet?
[22:05] <fsphil-laptop> odd, my payload just stopped transmitting suddenly
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> yeah seems so
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> it's off I think
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> I mean the balloon
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> the tracker shows it ascending
[22:07] <fsphil-laptop> either that or a very tall person holding it
[22:08] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:08] <fsphil-laptop> 2.3km
[22:08] <fsphil-laptop> I'm not liking the silence coming from my radio
[22:08] <Laurenceb_> wait this flight looks identical to the last one
[22:09] <plantain> predicted to land 10km from lake alexandrina, ballsy launch
[22:11] <Darkside> hehe
[22:12] <Laurenceb_> is this a real flight?
[22:18] <Darkside> yes
[22:18] <Darkside> durr
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[22:30] <Laurenceb_> heh
[22:30] <plantain> how high is it expected to go?
[22:34] <Darkside> 30km
[22:34] <Darkside> or so
[22:34] <Darkside> we're about to head off
[22:35] <Darkside> hmm the predictor isnt updating on spacenear.us
[22:36] <NigeyS> i think it just updated Darkside
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[22:38] <Darkside> hey VK5ZSN
[22:39] Action: plantain makes underwater noises
[22:40] <VK5ZSN> hi
[22:40] <VK5ZSN> about to leave for airport. looks good also on aprs.
[22:41] <Darkside> cool
[22:44] <plantain> not going gliding Darkside, so don't look for me circling above the landing site
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[22:45] <Darkside> plantain: lol ok
[22:45] <plantain> 113km/h, someone's speeding!
[22:46] <Darkside> its within the gps margin of error
[22:46] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[22:46] <Darkside> >_>
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[22:48] <plantain> 118km/h isn't though lol
[22:53] <VK5ZSN> watching your phone aprs Darkside! its ok.
[22:53] <Darkside> haha
[22:53] <Darkside> better to use the predictor
[22:53] <VK5ZSN> had a 12 hour gig yesterday!
[22:53] <VK5ZSN> 2 showes
[22:53] <Darkside> jeez
[22:53] <VK5ZSN> as in calls
[22:54] <VK5ZSN> yep going to Alice Springs for a few days. back Wed
[22:54] <Darkside> okeydoke
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[23:33] <Darkside> oh awesome
[23:34] <Darkside> we got tweeted by dr karl
[23:34] <Darkside> hey vk3zyc
[23:36] <plantain> lol
[23:36] <plantain> you might just get DDOS'd now
[23:37] <vk3zyc> hi all any got current horus 19 freq +/- 100hz
[23:41] <vk3zyc> looking for it from eastern vic
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> when Raspberry Pi is finally coming out
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> is that a good balloon computer?
[23:51] <vk5ng> 434.652
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[23:57] <Lunar_Lander> burst
[23:57] <Lunar_Lander> 33588 m
[23:57] <fsphil-laptop> nice
[23:58] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil-laptop: you also talked about raspberry pi IIRC
[23:58] <Lunar_Lander> or was that Tim?
[23:58] <fsphil-laptop> both probably
[23:58] <plantain> 40m/s descent rate, is the chute working?
[23:58] <fsphil-laptop> not yet
[23:58] <SpeedEvil> The pi is in principle interesting.
[23:58] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:59] <fsphil-laptop> the chute won't be all that effective until about 15km
[23:59] <DanielRichman> linux flight computers have had problems in the past I believe
[23:59] <vk3zyc> vk5ng, thanks
[23:59] <fsphil-laptop> Tim's beagle keeps dying
[23:59] <DanielRichman> certainly more complex than it needs to be; more things to go wrong
[23:59] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:59] <SpeedEvil> Sometimes more complexity can be simpler.
[23:59] <Lunar_Lander> because I mentioned making a Flight Computer PCB one day
[23:59] <Lunar_Lander> after flying with arduino for a couple of times
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