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[00:23] <jenny> hey guys, does anyone know where I can find an example script for chdk? not sure how to get it all working
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[00:32] <Darkside> hmm
[00:33] <Darkside> oh cool, torrent of man lab ep 3 is up
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[00:47] <Darkside> whoo watching man lab
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[00:49] <Darkside> EARS!
[00:50] <Darkside> lol wtf party balloons
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[00:50] <Darkside> is that rocketboy?
[00:50] <Darkside> >_>
[00:54] <Darkside> nope
[00:54] <Darkside> dl-fldigi! on BBC tv!
[00:55] <fsphil> lol
[00:55] <fsphil> rocketboy gets about one line later on
[00:55] <Darkside> heh
[00:55] <Darkside> do they show spacenearus?
[00:56] <Darkside> yep
[00:56] <Darkside> kind of
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[00:58] <Darkside> oh wow
[00:58] <Darkside> heh, you can see the other balloon
[00:58] <Darkside> i guess that only up to a few km alt tho
[00:59] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[00:59] <fsphil-laptop> still they stuck together for a good while
[00:59] <Darkside> haha they're trying to see it with binoculars
[01:00] <Darkside> bull:P
[01:00] <Darkside> time for burst
[01:00] <Darkside> YES
[01:01] <Darkside> close up of spacenearus!
[01:01] <hibby> i would watch it, but I won't as i'm far too stoned for jamesy
[01:02] <Darkside> NICE video of burst
[01:03] <fsphil-laptop> very
[01:04] <Darkside> haha
[01:04] <Darkside> nice music
[01:04] <Darkside> chariots of fire
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[01:06] <Darkside> oh man
[01:06] <Darkside> this is awesome
[01:06] <Darkside> oh wow
[01:07] <Darkside> it hit the wires
[01:07] <Darkside> theres rocketboys line
[01:08] <Darkside> "it's that way"
[01:08] <fsphil-laptop> yay lol
[01:08] <fsphil-laptop> rob got a few more lines in. and upu's sunglasses made a cameo
[01:08] <fsphil-laptop> that and the pink duct tape
[01:09] <Darkside> i see the duct tape
[01:10] <Darkside> no credits for upu or rocketboy..
[01:11] <fsphil-laptop> don't think rob was on there either?
[01:12] <Darkside> nope
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[01:35] <hibby> hey NigelMoby
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[06:54] <Upu> morning Darkside yeah there was some creative editing
[06:55] <Darkside> yeah
[06:55] <Upu> but well put together
[06:55] <Upu> made it seem like a race
[06:55] <Upu> when it really wasn't
[06:56] <Upu> when he ran to the car and said "We've won" he'd actually just broken away from drinking his pint in the pub
[06:56] <Darkside> lol
[06:56] <Upu> suppose I can make the pictures public now
[06:57] <Darkside> yeah
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[06:57] <Upu> still the pink gaffer got full air time
[06:57] <Darkside> i'm just in the middle of finishing up a 2m rtty board
[06:58] <Upu> I moved some comps round last night
[06:59] <Upu> http://imagebin.org/183262
[06:59] <Upu> no vias yet
[07:00] <Upu> nice to see the footage from the top camera showing the parachute hitting the power line
[07:00] <Darkside> could you do a image of the schematic
[07:01] <Upu> sure 1 sec
[07:02] <Upu> http://imagebin.org/183263
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[07:04] <Darkside> Upu: is the gps on a hardware or software uart?
[07:04] <Upu> hardware
[07:04] <Darkside> ahh ok
[07:05] <Darkside> the track going to it is pretty nuts
[07:05] <Darkside> should work
[07:06] <Upu> well should isn't good
[07:06] <Upu> I can have another look
[07:07] <Darkside> hmm gotta say, the ublox 6 does some weird shit when it doesn' thave lock
[07:08] <Darkside> maybe its just tinygps
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[07:09] <Darkside> once it gets lock its fine
[07:09] <Darkside> i've had to make it forcibly report 00.000 for lat and long until it gets lock
[07:09] <Darkside> else it goes all ove the map
[07:20] <Upu> ok off to work
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[07:45] <Darkside> oh thats an interesting bug
[07:45] <Darkside> latitude and longitude are the same
[07:45] <Darkside> >_>
[07:46] <Darkside> i have no idea how thats even possible
[07:49] <eroomde> it's possible in an infinite number of locations
[07:50] <Darkside> heh
[07:50] <Darkside> i think its due to how i was initialising my latitude and longitude strings
[07:52] <Darkside> i just wanted to make sure there was something in the string before it got printed
[07:53] <Darkside> ok that fixed it
[07:53] <Darkside> i'e also got it only modifying the strings to be printed if it actually has lock
[07:53] <Darkside> because the ublox 6 does some weird shit when it doesnt have lock
[07:53] <Darkside> and all the coords it outpus are valid...
[07:54] <Darkside> so it'd go all over the map
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[08:07] <UpuWork> for those of you torrent impaired www2.upuaut.net/james.mays.man.lab.s02e03.hdtv.xvid-ftp.avi
[08:07] <UpuWork> don't link it anywhere pls
[08:08] <Darkside> lol
[08:09] <Darkside> got that this mornung
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[08:35] <UpuWork> Anyone know what type of connector these are :
[08:35] <UpuWork> http://imagebin.org/183270
[08:35] <UpuWork> http://imagebin.org/183271
[08:35] <UpuWork> http://imagebin.org/183272
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[09:08] <eroomde> UpuWork: to what are they attached?
[09:09] <Darkside> they look kind of like in-line JSTs
[09:10] <SamSilver_> the 2nd pic makes me think it would look good on "the swift project" http://imagebin.org/183271
[09:11] <Darkside> i think thats the idea
[09:11] <SamSilver_> it looks like a kind of automotive jobbie
[09:13] <SamSilver_> I think I found it http://senz.en.alibaba.com/product/470543736-211951965/250_Type_2_Pin_Plug_male_Automotive_Connector.html
[09:14] <SamSilver_> hard to tell
[09:15] <SamSilver_> think it only has one "wing"
[09:23] <Upu> they are from an RC Helicopter
[09:23] <Upu> but they are small and lock well
[09:23] <Upu> be nice to get a PCB mount on one side
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[10:01] <WillDuckworth> hey Rocketboy - did you see yourself on telly yesterday?
[10:01] <RocketBoy> yeah - was all set up for it - good fun
[10:02] <WillDuckworth> they seemed to edit it together quite well - what did you think?
[10:02] <RocketBoy> yeah - its always hard to tell what will be in or out - they took masses of footage
[10:03] <UpuWork> they cut the whole bit done in the field when budgie was recovered
[10:03] <RocketBoy> stuff you think will be in is often not shown
[10:03] <UpuWork> and stuff like bumping into HT cables was left in
[10:04] <RocketBoy> yeah - I think the were always gonna show that
[10:04] <UpuWork> makes it a little more exciting I guess
[10:04] <RocketBoy> too interesting to leave out
[10:04] <Darkside> UpuWork: do you have the raw footage of that?
[10:04] <UpuWork> Yeah
[10:04] <UpuWork> only the side view
[10:04] <Darkside> UPLOOOOADDDDD
[10:04] <Darkside> aww
[10:04] <UpuWork> not mine to upload
[10:04] <Darkside> bah
[10:04] <UpuWork> though if you have a Youtube account...
[10:05] <UpuWork> anyway afk out on site
[10:05] <eroomde> between where and where is it in the program?
[10:05] <eroomde> will try and get it on iplayer but don't have time to go through the whole thing
[10:05] <Darkside> near teh end
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[12:58] <hibby> yay minecraft
[12:58] <hibby> as you can see, I'm productive in STAC today
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[13:15] <NigelMoby> Slacker :p
[13:19] <hibby> lol
[13:20] <NigelMoby> Hey hibster
[13:20] <daveake> Just watching ManLab again ....
[13:21] <daveake> .... just noticed the size of the aerial on the 4x4!
[13:21] <daveake> Makes mine look rather small :(
[13:26] <UpuWork> Which one daveake because one was actually for the 2 meter band
[13:26] <daveake> Ah
[13:26] <UpuWork> also Rob had a Vodafone dongle on a piece of old pipe
[13:26] <daveake> That explains it then :)
[13:26] <daveake> It'll be the former
[13:27] <UpuWork> https://picasaweb.google.com/118244444241111963790/201107ManLab#5635427895767382994
[13:27] <UpuWork> that one there on the center console ?
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[13:35] <daveake> No ... the long bendy one on the roof!
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[13:43] <NigelMoby> Upuwork you solved the mystery of the connectors yet?
[13:50] <Upu> not looked but will do
[14:07] <NigelMoby> Oki
[14:08] <NigelMoby> Just got all the prototype parts this morning, minus a xtal.
[14:14] <SpeedEvil> :) :(
[14:17] <NigelMoby> Hey speedy
[14:18] <costyn> anyone have a link to the torrent of manlab?
[14:18] <costyn> i could leech from Upu, but torrents are more social
[14:19] <hibby> i have a torrent of matlab :)
[14:20] <SpeedEvil> I have a torrent of Matlock.
[14:24] <Laurenceb> lol
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[14:24] <Laurenceb> hibby: shhh
[14:24] <Laurenceb> well pretend that doesnt exist
[14:24] <NigelMoby> I have matlab... Somewhere
[14:25] <hibby> lol
[14:25] <SpeedEvil> I have a manual for matlab.
[14:25] <SpeedEvil> From 1998 or so.
[14:25] <NigelMoby> Thicker than war & peace I bet?
[14:25] <SpeedEvil> No.
[14:26] <SpeedEvil> IIRC 250 pages or so
[14:26] <NigelMoby> :o
[14:27] <hibby> I have a very thick book on matlab
[14:27] <hibby> I think the section on plotting is about 150-200 pages long
[14:27] <Laurenceb> i have octave
[14:27] <fsphil> I think I asked this before .. but how does rjharrison attach the radio to the dash?
[14:27] <daveake> Art
[14:27] <SpeedEvil> A trained cat.
[14:27] <NigelMoby> Velcro ?
[14:28] <fsphil> possibly, though that means sticking things to a nice expensive radio :)
[14:28] <daveake> Yeah, who cares about the car? ;)
[14:29] <NigelMoby> LOL
[14:29] <fsphil> my car was only twice as expensive at the radio ;)
[14:29] <fsphil> and the radio has probably held its value better
[14:29] <daveake> True
[14:31] <daveake> Value of my car = £1000. Radio+Samsung Tab+aerials+Netbook+dongle = ...... well, let's call that £1,000 too :)
[14:31] <fsphil> lol, same story here really
[14:31] <NigelMoby> Lol crazy
[14:31] <hibby> yep
[14:32] <NigelMoby> Hibby is that rotator fixed yet?
[14:33] <hibby> nah man
[14:33] <hibby> It appears someone tried to replace a board during summer
[14:33] <hibby> for some reason
[14:33] <NigelMoby> Lol ffs
[14:33] <hibby> and then someone else did the same thing
[14:33] <hibby> with no commmunication
[14:33] <hibby> so now they're not only fucked, they're uncalibrated too.
[14:33] <NigelMoby> Clever bunch ain't they
[14:33] <hibby> I've been needing an excuse to replace them
[14:34] <hibby> and we happen to have a design for some arduino powered ones
[14:34] <NigelMoby> Eek
[14:34] <hibby> it's only 6A@30V to run them
[14:34] <hibby> just need to get funding to turn that student's very good work into reality
[14:35] <hibby> as I'm not likely to un-fuck these things when there's no record of how they got fucked.
[14:35] <NigelMoby> Meh the f word.
[14:35] <fsphil> UpuWork, aah I've got those connectors on my RC helicopter that crashed in an incident that totally wasn't my fault
[14:35] <hibby> NigelMoby: it's being used as a technical term here, you understand
[14:35] <NigelMoby> Of course
[14:36] <NigelMoby> Phil...
[14:36] <NigelMoby> http://www.molex.com/molex/products/family?key=minifit_tpa&channel=products&chanName=family&pageTitle=Introduction&parentKey=minifit_products
[14:40] <fsphil> ah, they're called JST-SMP
[14:41] <NigelMoby> Eugh jst are a bitch to crimp
[14:42] <fsphil> these looks a bit bigger than the small jst ones
[14:42] <fsphil> jst is the company, they make lots of different types of connectors
[14:43] <NigelMoby> Hm yeah they look quite big actually, don't see a PCB mount for them though
[14:46] <eroomde> NigelMoby: cannot ever convey the preposterous cost and inordinate joy of a proper crimping tool
[14:46] <eroomde> the manufacturers realise just how important they are
[14:46] <eroomde> so they charge £££ for them
[14:46] <NigelMoby> They're insanely expensive
[14:47] <NigelMoby> The cheap 1 I bought for normal .1" pins was 50quid alone.
[14:48] <fsphil> ebay
[14:49] <NigelMoby> Are we not over thinking this connector though?
[14:50] <Zuph> Lenovo, y u lower price on laptop I already wanted so much that now I want it more?
[14:52] <NigelMoby> Lol zuph
[14:52] <hibby> lol
[14:53] <NigelMoby> Fsphil http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=280701185350&index=22&nav=SEARCH&nid=83595355712
[14:53] <NigelMoby> Looks to b the 1
[14:54] <fsphil> I'd be happy enough with the KK ones, I've used them and never had one fall otu
[14:54] <fsphil> out
[14:55] <fsphil> ooh dungannon, about 10 miles from me
[14:56] <NigelMoby> http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=270792222218&index=12&nav=SEARCH&nid=97410003160
[14:56] <NigelMoby> ?
[14:59] <UpuWork> http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=280701185350&index=22&nav=SEARCH&nid=83595355712
[14:59] <UpuWork> that one
[14:59] <UpuWork> but with a PCB socket
[14:59] <fsphil> the one you linked to UpuWork is the JST-SMT
[14:59] <UpuWork> costyn just leech it
[14:59] <fsphil> SMP even
[14:59] <UpuWork> JST EL Series Multipole Connector
[15:01] <NigelMoby> Does it have a PCB socket version?
[15:02] <NigelMoby> Cause this looks better... http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=180739167277&index=19&nav=SEARCH&nid=27891295841
[15:07] <UpuWork> will look when I get home
[15:09] <UpuWork> What pisses me off about Farnell :
[15:09] <UpuWork> New to Farnell?
[15:09] <UpuWork> Start here
[15:09] <UpuWork> Hello Robert Harrison, you have personal product recommendations. If you are not Robert Harrison click here.
[15:09] <UpuWork> 270,884 Product results found for JST EL Series
[15:09] <UpuWork> oops
[15:09] <daveake> lol
[15:09] <NigelMoby> Lol
[15:11] <UpuWork> meant the 270k products
[15:11] <NigelMoby> Their search is rather err... Flawed...
[15:11] <fsphil> 270k products, and not one is the one you want
[15:11] <UpuWork> yeah
[15:12] <fsphil> they do have some of the JST SMP ones
[15:12] <UpuWork> http://www.jst-mfg.com/product/detail_e.php?series=151
[15:13] <fsphil> http://www.jst-mfg.com/product/detail_e.php?series=238
[15:13] <fsphil> pain to crimp I bet :)
[15:13] <UpuWork> yeah they look ok
[15:15] <daveake> I think I said before about the RS search for "FET" ... they've fixed it now, but it said "Did you mean to search for FOOT" and showed a list of safety boots
[15:15] <fsphil> none of these have pcb versions though UpuWork
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[15:16] <UpuWork> yeah still looking
[15:16] <NigelMoby> We gonna be here s week chosing a power connector?
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[15:16] <fsphil> KK :)
[15:16] <UpuWork> yeah
[15:20] <UpuWork> http://uk.farnell.com/jst-japan-solderless-terminals/bm02b-zess-tbt/header-ze-top-smt-2way/dp/1830891
[15:23] <UpuWork> ta da
[15:23] <UpuWork> http://uk.farnell.com/jst-japan-solderless-terminals/s02b-pask-2/header-pa-2way-side-2mm/dp/1830747
[15:25] <NigelMoby> Yey
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[16:49] <NigeyS> http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/datasheets/MC7805.pdf ... i am going mad or does that pdf not show the pinout for the TO2203
[16:49] <NigeyS> version?
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[16:59] <SamSilver> NigeyS: I think it is at the top right of page one
[17:00] <NigeyS> think thats just for the d2 package :|
[17:01] <NigeyS> soon find out, either it works or its gonna get pretty hot
[17:02] <SamSilver> I read it as being for all 3 types of packaging
[17:02] <SamSilver> fingers crossed
[17:02] <NigeyS> haha crossed.. or burnt :p
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[17:08] <SamSilver> have you noticed that the magic smoke from a transformer smells different from the smoke from a VReg?
[17:09] <GW8RAK> But they are both made of compressed smoke.
[17:09] <GW8RAK> Get them too hot and it escapes
[17:09] <GW8RAK> spider
[17:09] <GW8RAK> that wasn't meant to be there.
[17:11] <NigeyS> fry the spider!
[17:11] <NigeyS> ffs i need 7v to drive this vreg, what an awkward number
[17:12] <GW8RAK> trying to finish an email
[17:12] <GW8RAK> What's the output?
[17:12] <NigeyS> 5v
[17:12] <NigeyS> datasheet says input must be 2v above output
[17:12] <GW8RAK> Anything over 7V will work, or is it just reaching the minimum of 7V?
[17:13] <NigeyS> i think it maybe ok with 6v
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[17:25] <SamSilver> greating LazyLeopard
[17:25] <SamSilver> *s
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[17:32] <LazyLeopard> Eyup
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[18:08] <daveake_> Brilliant. The Royal Mail page about missing post has a link to "common reasons for missing mail". And yes, if you click the link, you get a "page not found" message ....
[18:09] <SpeedEvil> :)
[18:09] <SpeedEvil> I did some research the other day.
[18:10] <SpeedEvil> .13% of mail is not correctly delivered.
[18:10] <SpeedEvil> Which reminds me, I need to phone up the DWP to see if I've been sent a letter, and it's in that percentage.
[18:13] <LazyLeopard> Oh joy... That's a _lot_ of mail going missing...
[18:14] <SpeedEvil> Indeed.
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[18:54] <somnium> Hi all
[18:54] <NigeyS> hi somnium
[18:56] <somnium> Has anyone connected the Lassen iQ to an Arduino before?
[18:56] <somnium> Im trying to work out the pins to connect
[18:59] <NigeyS> yup
[18:59] <NigeyS> you want to connect the lassen tx pin to the arduinos rx0 pin
[18:59] <NigeyS> vcc (3.3) to vcc and gnd to gnd
[18:59] <somnium> is iot the Lassens TXD A, pin 1?
[19:00] <NigeyS> dont connect the rx to the arduinos tx unless you are stepping down the voltage from 5 to 3.3 5v will kill the gps
[19:00] <NigeyS> nmea or tsip ?
[19:01] <NigeyS> i think nmea is b ? either way just dont go chucking 5v through it :p
[19:02] <daveake_> Yeah, port B (or port 2, depending on what part of the manual you read) is NMEA
[19:02] <daveake_> btw Some Arduinos run on 3.3V, which is a lot more convenient!
[19:03] <NigeyS> yeah he can use arduinos 3v3 port
[19:03] <NigeyS> but
[19:03] <somnium> Will it depend on the code whether or not tsip or nmea?
[19:03] <NigeyS> it still send logic at 5v so just best not to connect the TX0 pin to the lassen
[19:04] <NigeyS> somnium, unless u specifically need tsip for configuration of the module, you can do everything via the B header and nmea
[19:04] <daveake_> Stick to NMEA. TSIP is a completely different protocol and you won't find many people to help you use it.
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[19:05] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[19:05] <daveake_> The Lassen works fine with NMEA without any configuration
[19:05] <daveake_> hello LL
[19:05] <somnium> Ok, i think it is NMEA we are using, ive just been told to connect the GPS to the arduino, i will check
[19:05] <Lunar_Lander> hi daveake_
[19:05] <nosebleedKT> hello Lunar_Lander
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[19:07] <rjharrison> hey RocketBoy
[19:07] <rjharrison> Slight security fopar :)
[19:07] <RocketBoy> yeah
[19:08] <somnium> A quick question about pullup resistors, does each of the pins that requires a pullup need its own resistor, or can i connect them to the same one?
[19:08] <RocketBoy> np here though
[19:08] <rjharrison> and here
[19:08] <rjharrison> Stuart was getting his knickers in a twist
[19:08] <rjharrison> Anyhow I think I have sorted it now
[19:08] <RocketBoy> how did it end up on google?
[19:09] <eroomde> rjharrison: your agreement doc?
[19:09] <eroomde> on your websvn?
[19:09] <RocketBoy> somnium: you only need one if its for spare pins
[19:10] <RocketBoy> i.e. inputs
[19:10] <somnium> Thanks rocketboy
[19:10] <Lunar_Lander> hey RocketBoy !
[19:10] <Lunar_Lander> got my PDF?
[19:11] <rjharrison> The soot info a few mobiles but not james
[19:11] <Lunar_Lander> hi rjharrison
[19:11] <RocketBoy> Lunar_Lander: nope don't think so
[19:11] <rjharrison> soot = shoot
[19:11] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[19:11] <Lunar_Lander> I sent it to sales@randomaerospace.com
[19:11] <rjharrison> It said don't print it so i put it on my svn :-)
[19:11] <RocketBoy> did you send it to steve at btinternet dot com
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> ah, no to Random Aerospace
[19:12] <RocketBoy> Lunar_Lander: i'll check
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> I thought that is your address as well=
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[19:12] <rjharrison> well I actually put it in my correspondence folder but then added it later to my svn
[19:12] <rjharrison> eroomde ^^^
[19:12] <eroomde> ah i see
[19:12] <nosebleedKT> Lunar_Lander!
[19:12] <eroomde> whoopsie!
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> hi nosebleedKT
[19:12] <RocketBoy> rjharrison: how did they find it?
[19:13] <eroomde> RocketBoy: i found it just now
[19:13] <eroomde> on google
[19:13] <eroomde> hjust searching for manlab
[19:13] <rjharrison> Apparently some kind person phone the bbc
[19:13] <RocketBoy> ah right - just checked it comes up easilly
[19:13] <rjharrison> try james may space balloon. It's the top hit now everyones been looking at it
[19:13] <RocketBoy> oh no
[19:14] <rjharrison> I'v put a request into google to remove it via the webmaster tool
[19:14] <eroomde> robots.txt?
[19:14] <Lunar_Lander> did someone rip the show from TV and put it online?
[19:15] <Lunar_Lander> or what happened?
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[19:16] <RocketBoy> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0178k6x/James_Mays_Man_Lab_Series_2_Episode_3/
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[19:17] <rjharrison> http://www.robertharrison.org/robots.txt
[19:17] <rjharrison> Do they bloody read this
[19:18] <RocketBoy> I'm sure they will just tree walk the entire site
[19:18] <daveake_> Whoops. "All copies of this document are to be destroyed once the shoot/programme has been completed"
[19:22] <Lunar_Lander> RocketBoy, did the PDF arrive?
[19:23] <RocketBoy> nope
[19:23] <SpeedEvil> daveake_: Was there anything embarrasing on it?
[19:24] <SpeedEvil> Ah - 'quick view' still works. :/
[19:24] <RocketBoy> Lunar_Lander: could you try steve at btinternet dot com
[19:25] <rjharrison> daveake_ it does also say don't print it :-)
[19:26] <Lunar_Lander> OK, one moment RocketBoy
[19:27] <x-f> Lunar_Lander, that episode is available on torrents
[19:27] <Lunar_Lander> ah I see
[19:27] <hibby> iiiiiiiiiiiit's ceilidh night!
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[19:35] <Lunar_Lander> RocketBoy, just sent it
[19:35] <rjharrison> eroomde did you like the James may stuff
[19:36] <WillDuckworth> hey rjharrison - plenty of screen time ;)
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[19:37] <eroomde> rjharrison: yes good fun
[19:37] <eroomde> not taking itself too seriously
[19:37] <Lunar_Lander> RocketBoy, did you receive it?
[19:38] <Lunar_Lander> rjharrison, is it maybe possible to get it on a DVD or so?
[19:38] <RocketBoy> not yet
[19:38] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[19:38] <Lunar_Lander> the file is 2MB, that should work with your account?
[19:41] <RocketBoy> that should be fine methinks
[19:41] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[19:41] <Lunar_Lander> still underway?
[19:41] <rjharrison> Lunar_Lander upu has a link for it
[19:41] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> thanks rjharrison
[19:44] <fsphil-laptop> evening all
[19:44] <Lunar_Lander> rjharrison, thanks again for working out the humidity sensor calibration on your site
[19:44] <Lunar_Lander> hi fsphil-laptop
[19:45] <RocketBoy> Lunar_Lander: its just turned up - ta
[19:46] <RocketBoy> now that circuit stands a chance of working
[19:46] <RocketBoy> much better
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[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> you are welcome RocketBoy
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> what is better in the circuit now?
[19:47] <RocketBoy> fet front end
[19:48] <rjharrison> http://www2.upuaut.net/james.mays.man.lab.s02e03.hdtv.xvid-ftp.avi
[19:49] <rjharrison> It's a biggy
[19:49] <NigeyS> 1.3gig ish ?
[19:49] <rjharrison> 520mb
[19:49] <Lunar_Lander> ah RocketBoy
[19:49] <NigeyS> bah thats tiny
[19:49] <Lunar_Lander> thanks rjharrison
[19:49] <rjharrison> iirc
[19:50] <Lunar_Lander> and thanks Upu!
[19:50] <RocketBoy> Lunar_Lander: its also DC coupled like the circuit I made
[19:51] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:00] <RocketBoy> many thanks for that Lunar_Lander - I'll build one up and let you know its any good
[20:01] <Lunar_Lander> you're welcome RocketBoy !
[20:01] <Lunar_Lander> did you see the circuit made by Dallas/Maxim in 2003?
[20:01] <RocketBoy> yeah
[20:01] <Lunar_Lander> is that good too?
[20:02] <RocketBoy> I think I found just about every circuit about semiconductor radiation detectors on the internet
[20:02] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:02] <RocketBoy> I did find a cern article - showing they use BPW34s too
[20:02] <Lunar_Lander> I received six opamps from Maxim
[20:02] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[20:03] <Lunar_Lander> but the Opamps are very small, SMD versions
[20:06] <Lunar_Lander> I have to try and learn SMD soldering
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> ping rjharrison
[20:13] <rjharrison> pong
[20:13] <rjharrison> SMD is quite easy if you're not blind
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> rjharrison, we'll try your humidity sensor calibration soon
[20:14] <rjharrison> Cool
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> I talked with the chemistry department and they got all the salts needed
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:14] <rjharrison> Cool
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[20:26] <Elwell> RocketBoy: for cern radiation, also search for 'RAMSES' - cern name for the monitoring system
[20:32] <RocketBoy> cheers
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[20:44] <Elwell> right. $work has started a robotics club (yay) and planning on sending up a baloon (more yay) but the numpties are planning on tracking with a phone.
[20:45] Action: Elwell tries to write a polite 'wtf' email to the list
[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> ballooning seems to become more and more popular!
[20:48] <Lunar_Lander> dang
[20:48] <Lunar_Lander> wrong channel
[20:48] <Lunar_Lander> I thought I was in the other spaceflight channel
[20:48] <Lunar_Lander> because there, ballooning is a really new thing
[20:49] <Lunar_Lander> btw did you all hear about the Phobos-Grunt probe?
[20:50] <eroomde> yup
[20:50] <eroomde> poor thing
[20:51] <eroomde> let's hope they manage to salvage something
[20:51] <SpeedEvil> No. :/
[20:51] <SpeedEvil> I tried to google grunt probe, and O.O
[20:52] <SpeedEvil> That's a bloody huge probe.
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> let me cite
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> "<Alfastar> hmmm
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> <Alfastar> Some news about P-G???
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> <Woo482> It's dead
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> <Alfastar> WHAT
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> <Alfastar> YOU SAY THAT P-G IS DEAD?
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> <insanity_atwork> that's what he said
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> <Alfastar> WOO, I HOPE THAT YOU LIE NOW
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> <Woo482> I'm not
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> <Woo482> they had a communications failure
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> <Alfastar> I know
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> <Alfastar> but it is not dead?
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> <Woo482> I don't think they're in control of it, so it'll die pretty soon"
[20:54] <SpeedEvil> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15631472
[20:54] <SpeedEvil> is actually sane
[20:55] <Zuph> They've got two weeks to figure something out before they run out of juice.
[20:56] <Elwell> can someone ping me a URL for some pretty pics of piconut?
[20:56] <Elwell> googlefu fail
[20:57] <nosebleedKT> who remembers to tell me the youtube link with a high altitude missisle?
[20:57] <nosebleedKT> it was a missisle doing our stuff
[20:57] <nosebleedKT> instead of balloon
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[21:02] <Lunar_Lander> Zuph, the people in the other room say that the Fregat battery lasts for 3 days
[21:03] <Zuph> Lunar_Lander: Head of Roscosmos says they have 2 weeks to recover.
[21:03] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:05] <NigeyS> Elwell
[21:05] <NigeyS> piconut or micronut ?
[21:12] <Elwell> either - want to point out 'this is what others have knocked up'
[21:15] <NigeyS> k 2 secs
[21:17] <NigeyS> heres meganut .. that i had Darkside design for pico payloads .. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nigeys/6257997075/in/photostream
[21:17] <NigeyS> and this is his micronut http://rfhead.net/?p=377
[21:18] <Elwell> ah rfhead - no wonder I couldn't grep it with twitpic
[21:19] <NigeyS> hehe
[21:19] <NigeyS> and if u want to see it before its finished...
[21:20] <NigeyS> here is project swift pcb .. in early stages... http://www.projectswift.co.uk/2011/11/08/build-update-1/
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[21:20] <somnium> would an aluminium sheet make a suitable groundplane from my gps antenna?
[21:21] <eroomde> yup
[21:21] <eroomde> if it's one of the ~18x18mm ones, 50x50mm ground will give you excellent results
[21:22] <eroomde> sorry to be more specific - the ceramic patch antennas - ~18x18x5mm
[21:22] <eroomde> if it's a helical antenna, you don't need the ground
[21:22] <eroomde> infact i think it probably definitely shouldn't be there
[21:24] <Elwell> NigeyS: ta.
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[21:26] <somnium> thanks eroomde
[21:27] <somnium> would a dielectric need to be put in between, to separate the two?
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[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> hey Paradoxial and jcoxon
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[22:08] <NigeyS> hrm, what could cause an avr to turn 300ms into almost 40 seconds? :|
[22:09] <NigeyS> 3000*
[22:09] <SpeedEvil> Your code.
[22:09] <SpeedEvil> Or someone elses code.
[22:09] <SpeedEvil> Also time dilation.
[22:09] <SpeedEvil> Is it moving at >.999C?
[22:10] <SpeedEvil> Have you got the right clock source selected?
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[22:12] <NigeyS> lol, yeah ive set the clk to the xtal frequency, and te xtal is connected fine.. just doesnt want to do as its told, code works fine on a 328 with the same xtal settings etc
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[22:13] <SpeedEvil> I'd wonder if it's 38.4 seconds.
[22:13] <SpeedEvil> 128*30
[22:13] <SpeedEvil> .3
[22:15] <NigeyS> i did a manual count but yeah thats close to 40
[22:16] <NigeyS> hm wonder if its not really setting the fuse then
[22:16] <NigeyS> http://pastebin.com/HFub1As9
[22:16] <NigeyS> l,h,and e all have 0 :|
[22:22] <Elwell> sorry, I pointed a few of our special nurinos at it
[22:23] <Elwell> +t
[22:25] <NigeyS> meh tnx dude...lol :(
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[22:35] <jcoxon> evening all
[22:35] Action: jcoxon has 8mhz crystal
[22:35] <SpeedEvil> :)
[22:36] <NigeyS> jcoxon, you couldve run 3v3 off a 16
[22:36] <jcoxon> its not really in specs
[22:37] <NigeyS> slightly out, but works fine
[22:37] <jcoxon> i'd have to salvage a 16mhz off my normal arduino board
[22:37] <jcoxon> and they stock 8mhz at maplins
[22:37] <NigeyS> ahh
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> hi jcoxon
[22:39] <jcoxon> hey Lunar_Lander
[22:39] <jcoxon> flight path for friday is interesting
[22:39] <jcoxon> and useful
[22:39] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[22:39] <jcoxon> will reach float altitude over UK
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[22:47] <Upu> oops
[22:47] <Upu> just pretend I didn't have caps lock pressed there
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[22:52] <jcoxon> hmmm its not being super weird
[22:52] <jcoxon> probably needs the predictor cache cleared
[22:59] <Laurenceb_> someones in Turkmenistan
[22:59] <jcoxon> sweet it works!
[23:00] <Laurenceb_> huh
[23:00] <Laurenceb_> since when was it Kyrgyzstan
[23:02] <Laurenceb_> i never knew the name was changed
[23:03] <Lunar_Lander> those are two different countries
[23:07] <Laurenceb_> oh yeah
[23:07] <Laurenceb_> i need to learn to read a map
[23:08] <Laurenceb_> lol sqrrl101 is on newsnight
[23:09] <Laurenceb_> aka larry pieface
[23:11] <jcoxon> seems the adding that crystal has solved my freezer issue
[23:12] <Darkside> jcoxon: flying ublox 5 or 6
[23:12] <Darkside> we're doing a ublox 6 launch on sunday
[23:13] <jcoxon> Darkside, haven't decided
[23:13] <Darkside> ok
[23:13] <jcoxon> i'll probably benefit from the added power saving from 6 i guess
[23:13] <jcoxon> but my 5 has a nice patch antenna on a bit of cable
[23:13] <jcoxon> so i can insulate the module a bit
[23:20] <Laurenceb_> jcoxon: nice
[23:20] <Laurenceb_> so you swapped ublox crystal?
[23:21] <jcoxon> Laurenceb_ oh no the avr crystal
[23:21] <jcoxon> i'm not that crazy
[23:21] <NigeyS> lol
[23:21] <Laurenceb_> heh
[23:22] <NigeyS> hey Darkside
[23:22] <Laurenceb_> so it was the avr that was going wrong?
[23:22] <Laurenceb_> oh usart timing went off?
[23:22] <jcoxon> yeah, exactly
[23:23] <jcoxon> needed some experiments in the freeze to get to the bottom of it
[23:23] <jcoxon> pleased i took the time
[23:23] <jcoxon> as we would have struggled after launch...
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[23:27] <jcoxon> anyone able to clear the predictor cache?
[23:31] <Darkside> hi NigeyS
[23:31] <NigeyS> boo
[23:31] <jcoxon> i'd like to work at sparkfun
[23:31] <jcoxon> looks fun
[23:32] <Randomskk> jcoxon: looking at their most recent blog post?
[23:32] <Randomskk> it really does seem like an excellent company
[23:32] <jcoxon> yeah
[23:32] <jcoxon> better then my job today
[23:32] <jcoxon> awful day
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[23:33] <Randomskk> :(
[23:33] <jcoxon> oh wel
[23:34] <jcoxon> just one more day this wekk
[23:34] <jcoxon> week**
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[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon, I now have a system that transmits temperature and pressure
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[23:35] <NigeyS> Darkside, http://www.flickr.com/photos/nigeys/6329731421/in/photostream prototyping swift with a pdip
[23:35] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander, awesome
[23:36] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[23:37] <Darkside> lol NigeyS
[23:37] <Darkside> is that a pdip 644?
[23:37] <NigeyS> yups, its bloody huge!
[23:37] <Darkside> haha
[23:37] <Darkside> dip40?
[23:37] <NigeyS> yeah
[23:37] <Darkside> hehe
[23:38] <NigeyS> these vregs are crap mind
[23:38] <NigeyS> LDO my ass!
[23:38] <Darkside> haha
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[23:38] <Darkside> also: http://yfrog.com/z/kghqermj
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[23:39] <NigeyS> wassat?
[23:39] <Darkside> boards of canada LP
[23:39] <NigeyS> :o
[23:40] <NigeyS> i got tons of vinyl here, but you probably not into trance music...lol
[23:40] <Darkside> i am, a bit
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[23:40] <Darkside> depend on the type
[23:40] <Darkside> i don't like hard trance very much
[23:40] <Darkside> more into progressive
[23:41] <NigeyS> nah i dont like hard trance much, more the euphoric, and prog stuff
[23:41] <Darkside> yep
[23:41] <Darkside> same
[23:41] <Darkside> i've got a few more LPs on the way
[23:42] <Darkside> by Floex and Hidden Orchestra
[23:42] <NigeyS> nicey :D
[23:42] <NigeyS> i should send you some, but the postage on vinyl is stupid!
[23:42] <Darkside> and i've already got some LPs by Orbital and Aphex Twin
[23:43] <Darkside> I couldn't resist getting the Windowlicker LP :P
[23:43] <Darkside> the cover is awesome
[23:43] <NigeyS> hehe
[23:44] <Lunar_Lander> Darkside, boards of canada is cool
[23:44] <Lunar_Lander> they used Excelsior III footage in one music video
[23:44] <Darkside> dayvan cowboy
[23:45] <Darkside> which is why i used that track on one of my videos
[23:45] <Darkside> hold
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[23:46] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:46] <Darkside> http://vimeo.com/20544850 password is horus123
[23:46] <Lunar_Lander> cool,thanks :)
[23:46] <Darkside> i didn't make the video public because of that music
[23:46] <Darkside> and the fact i haven't got the licensing for it
[23:46] <Darkside> the uni does, however
[23:47] <Darkside> that video was quickly cut together for a uni event
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[23:47] <Darkside> the elec eng department likes to play it at public events
[23:47] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:49] <Lunar_Lander> :) I like it
[23:50] <Darkside> i figured it was fitting
[23:50] <Darkside> the music, that is
[23:51] <Lunar_Lander> definately
[23:52] <Lunar_Lander> do you know 009 Sound System?
[23:52] <Darkside> nope
[23:53] <Wil5on> Darkside, can i share that in the hackerspace channel
[23:53] <Lunar_Lander> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Z2uf_KZVU
[23:53] <Lunar_Lander> Darkside, this I did :)
[23:53] <Darkside> Wil5on: yeah, with the password go ahead
[23:53] <Lunar_Lander> it is in Youtubes audioswap library, so it is free music
[23:53] <Darkside> heh cool
[23:54] <Lunar_Lander> I saved that webcam images manually
[23:54] <Lunar_Lander> and then simply arranged them in chronological order
[23:55] <Darkside> ok
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