highaltitude.log.20111022

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[00:21] <nickolai89> hello
[00:21] <fsphil> hiya nickolai89
[00:21] <nickolai89> hows it going fsphil?
[00:21] <fsphil> not too bad here, getting a bit sleepy. 1:21am :)
[00:21] <fsphil> you?
[00:22] <nickolai89> busy, preparing to launch on sunday
[00:22] <nickolai89> i've got some help, but i'm nostly doing this on my own. let me tell if u don't know already, it's a pain
[00:23] <nickolai89> fsphil you're not involved with corrdinating the spacenear.us tracker are you?
[00:24] <fsphil> I mostly launch on my own too :) I feel your pain
[00:25] <nickolai89> how many have you launched?
[00:25] <fsphil> I can't do anything on spacenear.us, and I think most who do are asleep atm :)
[00:26] <fsphil> involved with 3 so far, 2 solo
[00:26] <fsphil> well, 4 if you count the picochu launch
[00:26] <fsphil> what are you launching?
[00:27] <nickolai89> a weather ballon?
[00:27] <nickolai89> just a couple camera
[00:27] <nickolai89> i got a temperature sensor but I've been too lazy to integrate it. A bit late now, I'm currently running a battery test
[00:27] <fsphil> haha, snap. I've got some too but they're still in the box :)
[00:31] <nickolai89> haha
[00:31] <fsphil> there's a launch tomorrow too - been a busy year so far!
[00:31] <fsphil> well, later today even
[00:31] <nickolai89> i'm going for my second
[00:31] Nick change: sofii-chan -> spacekitteh
[00:31] <nickolai89> wow, this hobby s really heating up
[00:31] <nickolai89> it almost doesn't feel special anymore :(
[00:32] <nickolai89> with 1 launch and 1 last minute scrub under my belt i'm a lot better at getting ready for a launch tho
[00:33] <fsphil> many of the launches now are pushing boundaries or trying something new
[00:33] <fsphil> oh yes, the second time is much easier
[00:36] <nickolai89> still a lot of work to do tho
[00:38] <fsphil> do you chase/recover the payload on your own too?
[00:40] <nickolai89> i've got a few people helping me
[00:42] <nickolai89> doing it entirely on your own just sounds stressful. i've done all the work on getting everything ready, but when it comes to launch i try to get some helping hands for filling the balloon, holding the radio, etc.
[00:44] <fsphil> yea. I'm not sure it would be possible to do the launch on you're own
[00:49] <nickolai89> it might be, but doing it on your own introduces an insanely high risk of missing something, or letting the balloon slip while you're trying to tie it to the payload, or something else. no worries, i'm happy to leave it an unanswered question :)
[00:49] <nickolai89> maybe after i've done like 100 launches i'd be good enough to launch on my own
[00:58] <fsphil> it's the chase I'd be useless at - I couldn't drive and monitor a computer/radio at the same time. it would end badly
[00:59] <nickolai89> yea, that's tru. Unless you set it up such that it would feed a GPS unit giving you direction,which I'm sure is possible
[01:00] <nickolai89> but then, and this is something i don't have any experience with since we had to ditch the flight computer on flight 1 and rely on the cell phone for location, you'd have trouble pointing the antenna in the right direction to maintain signal?
[01:00] <nickolai89> perhaps you could stop once you reach a last known location, point the antenna and get a new location, drive and repeat
[01:00] <fsphil> I normally use a simple whip on the top of the car, it's omnidirectional
[01:00] <nickolai89> really?
[01:01] <nickolai89> hm, and i've been worried about 1/4 wave ground planes and moxons
[01:01] <nickolai89> i built myself a pretty good moxon tho, tested it to 4.14 miles today, and that's w/o LOS
[01:01] <fsphil> that is good
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[01:08] <nickolai89> yea here's something interesting: i built 2 moxon, one just out of copper wire glued onto foamboard. The other I precision machined on a router, it got a little screwed up on the elements but the spacing was perfect. Took em out to test, didn't notice a clear difference between em
[01:09] <fsphil> antennas are a black magic :)
[01:13] <fsphil> anyway, need sleep. g'night!
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[01:14] <nickolai89> gnight!
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[06:24] <Darkside> grrrrr apex people
[06:24] <Darkside> how did they got on hackaday when i didn't :P
[06:42] <jonsowman> morning all
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[06:46] <Darkside> hmm
[06:46] <Darkside> damn those apex guys :P
[06:46] <Darkside> getting on hackaday!
[06:46] <jonsowman> haha i know, i'm amazed
[06:46] <jonsowman> they haven't even launched it yet
[06:46] <Darkside> i didn't get on hackaday, and i broke the UK Record!
[06:46] <Darkside> dammit!
[06:46] <jonsowman> haha
[06:46] <Darkside> also they're using a 2kg hwowee
[06:46] Action: Darkside hopes for a float
[06:46] <jonsowman> that's the idea
[06:47] <Darkside> nah
[06:47] <Darkside> i mean if their ascent rate is <3m/s it'll float lower than they expect
[06:47] <jonsowman> ground wind doesn't seem too bad here this morning
[06:47] <Darkside> our 2000g hwoyee attempt had an ascent rate of 2.5m/s, and it floated
[06:47] <Darkside> which you probably know about
[06:47] <jonsowman> i didn't realise the ascent rate was that high
[06:48] <Darkside> any lower and it will *definitely* float
[06:48] <jonsowman> interesting
[06:48] <Darkside> this is the problem
[06:48] <Darkside> getting a high altitude vs having the balloon float
[06:48] <Darkside> the ascent rate needs to be spot on
[06:48] <Darkside> and we still don't even have any proper data for the hwoyee balloons
[06:48] <jonsowman> you reckon aim for 2.5m/s then?
[06:48] <Darkside> well that floated for us
[06:48] <Darkside> also we had a 150g payload
[06:48] <Darkside> they're doing 300g
[06:48] <jonsowman> yes
[06:48] <jonsowman> indeed
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[07:03] <jonsowman> anyway cheers Darkside, will discuss this with the apex lot
[07:03] <jonsowman> see what they think, it's their choice
[07:05] <Darkside> this is just what we've experiences
[07:05] <Darkside> and what WB8ELK mentioned
[07:05] <jonsowman> yeah
[07:05] <Darkside> as he's done these kind of launches before too
[07:05] <jonsowman> well as you say there's very little data available
[07:06] <jonsowman> so i guess we just go for it and see what happens :)
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[07:16] <Darkside> hmm
[07:16] <Darkside> what battery is in that picture of the apex-alpha payload?
[07:16] <Darkside> doesn't look like the standard energizers
[07:16] <jonsowman> linky?
[07:16] <Darkside> http://gallery.apexhab.org/index.php/Apex-Alpha/Payload/inside
[07:16] <Darkside> the PCB is very well done
[07:17] <jonsowman> ah those are just rechargeables NiMH that they were using for testing
[07:17] <Darkside> ahh ok
[07:17] <jonsowman> they're using energizers on the actual thing
[07:17] <Darkside> goood
[07:18] <Darkside> any idea what gps they are using?
[07:18] <jonsowman> lassen
[07:18] <Darkside> ok
[07:19] <Darkside> looks good
[07:19] <Darkside> a few interesting design choices
[07:19] <Darkside> like, a BNC connector for the rf output :P
[07:20] <Darkside> but oh well
[07:20] <jonsowman> yeah I know, not entirely sure why
[07:20] <jonsowman> right we're heading to the launch site
[07:20] <jonsowman> i'll do my best to keep you updated
[07:20] <jonsowman> catch you later
[07:21] <Darkside> okeydoke
[07:21] <Darkside> good luck
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[07:35] <Upu> morning all
[07:35] <SamSilver_> hi
[07:36] <number10> morning
[07:36] <GW8RAK> Morning all
[07:36] <Upu> already on the map
[07:37] <Upu> not in the right place though
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[07:39] <number10> whats the prediction for flight/landing?
[07:39] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=c2ca90550cb47abb59e4a51965bd6ab7c3d72173
[07:40] <number10> ta
[07:41] <number10> I have to pop out - hopefully back before 11 - but going to take radio and drive Mrs10 mad with didle didle didle
[07:42] <Upu> lol
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[07:56] <number10> back later
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[08:07] <mattltm> Morning :)
[08:11] <eroomde> morning mattltm
[08:12] <fsphil-laptop> mooning
[08:12] <eroomde> not on a family IRC channel fsphil-laptop
[08:13] <fsphil-laptop> isn't that how you greet each other there? drat
[08:13] <fsphil-laptop> that explains the incident on the bus though
[08:19] <mattltm> Hi all. is there a launch today?
[08:19] <Darkside> yes
[08:20] <mattltm> Ohh, who and where?
[08:20] <Darkside> look on the tracker
[08:20] <fsphil-laptop> also, the channel topic ;)
[08:20] <jonsowman> morning all
[08:21] <jonsowman> at churchill bar :)
[08:21] <mattltm> lol. Ta fsphil-laptop. I use a bouncer so I dont see the channel topic :)
[08:21] <mattltm> Ta jon
[08:21] <fsphil-laptop> aaaah
[08:21] <mattltm> I may be tempted to pump ut the mast.
[08:22] <fsphil-laptop> I was tempted to head up the hill but the sound of the wind convinced me not to
[08:23] <junderwood> Is the boat on standby for the recovery?
[08:23] <fsphil-laptop> it's gale force down here, imagine what it would be like up there
[08:23] <jonsowman> junderwood: not bothering with recovery
[08:23] <junderwood> :(
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[08:28] <jonsowman> morning Lee-G4TNX
[08:28] <Lee-G4TNX> Morning all
[08:28] <Lee-G4TNX> Apex still on?
[08:29] <jonsowman> yep
[08:29] <jonsowman> we're at the launch site
[08:29] <jonsowman> waiting for the rest of them to arrive
[08:29] <jonsowman> weather looks great, sunny and hardly any wind
[08:29] <Lee-G4TNX> Ok, will get radios warmed up.
[08:33] <earthshine> Morning
[08:34] <jonsowman> right, going to help set up
[08:34] <jonsowman> brb
[08:34] Action: Darkside gets out his 50 element yagi
[08:34] <earthshine> Ooh a launch
[08:34] <earthshine> Is it from EARS or CUSF ?
[08:34] <Upu> CUSF
[08:35] <earthshine> Standard transmissions on 434?
[08:35] <Upu> 434.650
[08:35] <Upu> Alpha in dl-fldigi
[08:35] <earthshine> Cool i'll dig my radio out
[08:38] <fsphil-laptop> you've enough records Darkside ;)
[08:39] <earthshine> Anyone know the name of that OSX app that lets you hear sounds input through the mic port?
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[08:40] <earthshine> Found it - LineIn
[08:42] <SpeedEvil> http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2011/10/police-academy-noise-guy-mouth-shreds-led-zeppelins-whole-lotta-love
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[08:45] <earthshine> Awesome
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[08:46] <fsphil-laptop> rather good
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[09:18] <eroomde> so this is a flight that might flirt with alt record?
[09:18] <Upu> its a flight designed to flirt with it then take it from behind when its not looking
[09:18] <daveake> ooer
[09:19] <Darkside> 2000g hwoyee?
[09:19] <jonsowman> :|
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[09:19] <jonsowman> yes Darkside
[09:19] <Darkside> yeah
[09:19] <Upu> yeah under filled with low ascent
[09:19] <Darkside> we tried this
[09:19] <Darkside> and failed miserably
[09:19] <daveake> :)
[09:19] <jonsowman> Darkside: i think they're planning to take your advice and go for about 2.5m/s
[09:19] <Darkside> no no no ono
[09:19] <Darkside> DONT do that
[09:19] <Darkside> thats how we floated at 38km
[09:19] <eroomde> what's wrong with 2.5m/s?
[09:19] <jonsowman> so go a bit higher?
[09:20] <jonsowman> 300g payload inc chute
[09:20] <jonsowman> & cord etc
[09:20] <Darkside> 2.5m/s with 150g payload = float
[09:20] <eroomde> we did 15.5 at 2.5m/s did we not
[09:20] <Upu> why bother with a cute ?
[09:20] <Darkside> eroomde: with a 1.6kg balloon
[09:20] <Darkside> this is a 2kg
[09:20] <jonsowman> Upu: true, we may not, see where predictions are going
[09:20] <jonsowman> with ~2.5m it's defintiely in the sea
[09:20] <Darkside> i'd try got slightly higher than 2.5m/s
[09:20] <Darkside> maybe 3m/s
[09:20] <eroomde> sure, but i'm not sure we understand the physics well enought to make claims like it will not work
[09:20] <jonsowman> Darkside: okay
[09:20] <Darkside> but even then it may float
[09:21] <Darkside> eroomde: WB8ELK mentioned that the 2000g hwoyees float
[09:21] <Darkside> but yes
[09:21] <Darkside> i'm not sure how it will go with a 300g payload
[09:21] <eroomde> jonsowman: what is the payload mass?
[09:21] <eroomde> 300g?
[09:21] <Darkside> it'll require more cas for teh same lift, so it may be ok
[09:21] <Darkside> more gas*
[09:21] <jonsowman> eroomde: 220g inc cord
[09:21] <eroomde> ok
[09:22] <Darkside> you may be OK with 2.5m/s with that payload weight
[09:22] <jonsowman> 80g chute if they use it, which if it's going in the sea, we won't
[09:22] <Darkside> but remember we have no decent data on the hwoyees
[09:22] <jonsowman> Darkside: oh i understand that it's very experimental
[09:22] <jonsowman> but we might as well try to do the best we can
[09:22] <Darkside> all the calcs i did were with the kaymont 2000g data
[09:22] <Darkside> and we know how well that went
[09:22] <eroomde> jonsowman: record everything svp :)
[09:22] <eroomde> neck lift and so on
[09:22] <Darkside> record your neck lift accurately
[09:23] <jonsowman> will do
[09:23] <Darkside> i think we had 290g neck lift
[09:23] <jonsowman> there's almost no wind so should be ok to get it accurately
[09:23] <eroomde> cool
[09:23] <Darkside> anyway, i do hope you break the record - then i'll know what to try here :-)
[09:24] <eroomde> 11am bst launch jonsowman ?
[09:24] <Darkside> ISH
[09:24] <jonsowman> Darkside: ISH indeed
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[09:25] <jonsowman> maybe 45 mins from now
[09:25] <eroomde> cool
[09:25] <jonsowman> i've got to head over to CUED quickly to let Randomskk into the skylab
[09:25] <eroomde> pred?
[09:25] <eroomde> oh is dl-fldigi working on lion?
[09:25] <nosebleedKT> Hi all
[09:25] <jonsowman> i've no idea eroomde, he's using my SL mbp
[09:25] <jonsowman> ok back shortly
[09:43] <mattltm> without a chute, what is the risk of an early burst over land and a falling payload?
[09:44] <eroomde> early burst independant of chute
[09:47] <mattltm> yes, any risk of danger?
[09:49] <costyn> mattltm: the payload is 300grams, so not much weight to hurt anyone.
[09:50] <earthshine> eroomde: I have it working on Lion
[09:51] <earthshine> eroomde: Also download LineIn if you haven't already got it
[09:51] <Darkside> ohh yeah, linein is awesome
[09:51] <Darkside> it has a small amount of lag though, but i guess that's to be expected
[09:52] <mattltm> Thanks costyn, I was just wondering :0
[09:52] <earthshine> I'm going to try and strap my antenna to the top of a long pole
[09:56] <eroomde> earthshine: cool thanks
[09:56] <eroomde> i've used linein for years :)
[09:56] <eroomde> impossible without
[10:00] <jonsowman> skylab is great :D
[10:00] <jonsowman> now, how does this trakotron work
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[10:05] <jamvanderloeff> hi
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[10:07] <griffonbot> @apexhab: Payload ready. #apexhab #ukhas http://t.co/fEkWcpqB [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127687599266603008]
[10:18] <NigelMoby> Morning
[10:22] <SamSilver> hi
[10:22] <SamSilver> looking forward to the launch
[10:23] <SamSilver> float or record alti?
[10:23] <GW8RAK> I'm just looking forward to lunch
[10:24] <daveake> mmmLunch
[10:24] <SamSilver> got beer ....... bugger lunch
[10:24] <daveake> mmmBeer
[10:24] <SamSilver> I also got blue leds
[10:24] <Randomskk> hi all
[10:24] <Randomskk> I have a ft817 here
[10:25] <Randomskk> how can I check if it is using the rear antenna connection?
[10:25] <Darkside> pray
[10:25] <Darkside> or attempt to navigate the menus
[10:25] <GW8RAK> Go into menus and select the one you want.
[10:25] <GW8RAK> Normally HF on the back, V/UHF on the front
[10:26] <Randomskk> I'm on UHF with a whip but it's on the back connector
[10:26] <Darkside> Upu: jonsowman we got no predictions going, want me to set that up?
[10:26] <Randomskk> there's nothing on the screen normally that indicates which one is in use?
[10:26] <Upu> Randomskk should say R next to the frequency if you're on rear antenna
[10:26] <Upu> but press and hold F
[10:26] <Randomskk> Upu: ah lovely, it does
[10:26] <Upu> wizz to menu 7
[10:26] <Randomskk> that should be fine then, thanks
[10:26] <Upu> ah ok
[10:26] <Upu> job done
[10:27] <Upu> Sure Darkside I don't know how to do that anyway
[10:27] <Darkside> ok
[10:27] <Upu> hey Randomskk this ADF radio uses alot of comps :)
[10:27] <Upu> just done a pick list for it
[10:27] <Randomskk> haha tell me about it
[10:27] <Randomskk> some of them might be more optional than others
[10:28] <Upu> more than the AVR + GPS put together
[10:28] <Randomskk> and it is still less than the ntx2, which is entirely discrete components ;P
[10:28] <Upu> well going to give it a shot
[10:28] <Darkside> Upu: which one
[10:28] <Darkside> ADF7012?
[10:28] <Upu> yeah
[10:29] <Darkside> if you get it going please tell me
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[10:29] <Darkside> also are they using a parachute or not
[10:29] <Darkside> i.e. is it going to be a 4m/s or 10m/s descent rate
[10:29] Nick change: ombot -> number10
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[10:30] <Upu> pick list Darkside http://pastebin.com/YUYKqVHr
[10:30] <earthshine-garde> Has it launched yet?
[10:31] <Upu> no
[10:31] Nick change: earthshine-garde -> earthshine-mob
[10:31] <Darkside> Upu: thats for 434?
[10:31] <earthshine-mob> ok
[10:31] <earthshine-mob> is it 434.6 ?
[10:31] <Darkside> i'm downloading the wind data now
[10:31] <Darkside> earthshine-mob: yes
[10:31] <Upu> Well data sheet says 433Mhz operation so yes
[10:31] <Upu> 434.650 earthshine
[10:31] <Darkside> why don't people just look at teh goddamn tracker
[10:31] <Darkside> its all on there
[10:31] <Darkside> Upu: im planning on using that chip on 2m
[10:32] <Upu> the data sheet gives examples for that
[10:32] <Darkside> brb
[10:32] <Upu> but obviously we can't use 2m
[10:32] <earthshine-mob> Darkside: Sorry didn't realise it was on there - its been a while since i racked laynch so lots of changes
[10:32] <Upu> Darkside if he's mobile he may not be able to load the tracker
[10:32] <earthshine-mob> *tracked a launch
[10:32] <Upu> don't worry about him its past his bed time probably grumpy :)
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[10:32] <earthshine-mob> I'm mobile as in - In the garden
[10:34] <Upu> there we go
[10:34] <Upu> on the map
[10:35] <earthshine-mob> cool
[10:36] <GW8RAK> Another country in the log book. Brazil!
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[10:36] <GW8RAK> 10m is doing well today.
[10:37] <Darkside> GW8RAK: hmmm
[10:37] <Darkside> GW8RAK: i wonder if i can load up my antenna on 10m
[10:37] <GW8RAK> What have you got?
[10:38] <Darkside> just a long-wire
[10:38] <Darkside> nothing special
[10:38] <Darkside> lemme hook things up and i'll put an ear out
[10:38] <GW8RAK> I'm only using an low altitude doublet normally for NVIS so was surprised with a 57 from Brazil
[10:38] <Darkside> i'll hook up my SDR-IQ again
[10:39] <GW8RAK> But if it's dark over there Darkside, the band may be quiet
[10:39] <GW8RAK> Propagation has been eastwards until the last 30 mins and now it's opening westwards as the sun gets up
[10:39] <griffonbot> @TheArduinoGuy: Helping the #ukhas guys to track a high altitude balloon today on the 70cm band. [http://twitter.com/TheArduinoGuy/status/127695655211765760]
[10:40] <earthshine-mob> lol
[10:41] <earthshine-mob> This payload is expected to be lost today?
[10:42] <junderwood> That or Holland
[10:42] <daveake> Or tomorrow, if it floats :)
[10:42] <fsphil-laptop> or here if it floats long enough :)
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[10:43] <earthshine-mob> LazyLeopard: Morning Rick
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[10:46] <earthshine-mob> Any idea how long till launch?
[10:47] <Darkside> wind data is downloaded
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[10:48] <Darkside> GW8RAK: my antenna feedpoint is a bit dead
[10:48] <Darkside> just working on making a new one :-)
[10:48] <GW8RAK> These things happen just as conditions are good.
[10:48] <GW8RAK> Do you do much HF?
[10:48] <Darkside> yeah
[10:48] <Darkside> nope
[10:48] <Darkside> hardly any at all
[10:49] <Darkside> if i broadcast 100W on 40m my internet connection drops out
[10:49] <Darkside> so yay
[10:49] <GW8RAK> Me neither, but I'm getting interested again.
[10:49] <jamvanderloeff> how long until the launch?
[10:49] <GW8RAK> Trying to understand propagation between the UK and Antarctica.
[10:50] <GW8RAK> Have someone going to a base south of Australia
[10:50] Action: earthshine-mob is trying to work out why the tracker is showing hi location as near Cambridge instead of near Bromley
[10:52] <Upu> Darkside power line adaptors ?
[10:53] <Upu> quick dog walk before launch bbs
[10:55] <earthshine-mob> All of the receivers have disappeared from the tracker. Is that normal?
[10:55] <fsphil-laptop> good spread of listeners
[10:55] <earthshine-mob> nm they are back
[10:55] <earthshine-mob> but i am still above Cambridge
[10:55] <earthshine-mob> weird
[10:56] <fsphil-laptop> what have you your coordinates in as?
[10:56] <earthshine-mob> 51º22'17"
[10:57] <fsphil-laptop> ah, try decimal
[10:57] <earthshine-mob> ahh
[10:57] <earthshine-mob> ok
[10:57] <Darkside> GW8RAK: hey
[10:57] <Darkside> can you do a test on some frequency
[10:57] <GW8RAK> Darkside Hey
[10:57] <fsphil-laptop> oooh
[10:57] Action: fsphil-laptop hooks up 817 to antenna
[10:57] <GW8RAK> Can do. What do you suggest?
[10:58] <Darkside> 10m somewhere
[10:58] <Darkside> pick a frequency
[10:58] <Darkside> i've got my SDR-IQ setup ready to go
[10:58] <GW8RAK> 28.800 USB?
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[10:58] <Darkside> sure
[10:58] <Laurenceb_> hi
[10:58] <Laurenceb_> http://regmedia.co.uk/2011/10/21/wow.jpg
[10:58] <GW8RAK> Do you want voice or data?
[10:58] <Darkside> GW8RAK: i hear morse on that freq
[10:59] <Darkside> uhmmm
[10:59] <Darkside> GW8RAK: do whatever
[10:59] <Darkside> i'm listening out
[10:59] <Darkside> my noise floot on that freq is a bit high
[10:59] <Darkside> floor*
[10:59] <GW8RAK> Shall we try PSK31 first?
[10:59] <GW8RAK> Then move to more challenging modes
[10:59] <Darkside> i can't do PSK31
[10:59] <GW8RAK> What can you do?
[11:00] <fsphil-laptop> license restriction?
[11:00] <Darkside> license restriction
[11:00] <Darkside> no data fro me
[11:00] <Darkside> GW8RAK: i just want to see if i can hear you firtst
[11:00] <Darkside> then we'll see what we can do
[11:00] <GW8RAK> Oh I see.
[11:00] <GW8RAK> Can you rx psk?
[11:00] <fsphil-laptop> I've my 817 on 28.800 USB, lovely silence :)
[11:00] <GW8RAK> Silent here as well
[11:00] <Darkside> TX!
[11:00] <fsphil-laptop> I might try calling
[11:00] <Darkside> :P
[11:00] <fsphil-laptop> but I've only 5 watts
[11:01] <Darkside> i've for -101dBm noise
[11:01] <GW8RAK> 2 minutes to get set up and then I'll transmit
[11:01] <earthshine-mob> I wish that raw data feed had latest at the top
[11:02] <GW8RAK> What is your callsign Darkside?
[11:02] <Darkside> GW8RAK: whats your lat/long
[11:02] <Darkside> GW8RAK: VK5FDRK
[11:02] <GW8RAK> 53.25N, 3.25W
[11:04] <GW8RAK> 28.820MHz
[11:04] <Darkside> go
[11:04] <GW8RAK> Okay think it is all ready to go
[11:04] <Darkside> i'm listening 28820 USB
[11:05] <Darkside> are you doing data?
[11:05] <Darkside> i hear faint RTTY on 28820
[11:05] <Darkside> no wait its morse
[11:05] <GW8RAK> 60W or thereabouts
[11:06] <fsphil-laptop> back, runaway dog :)
[11:06] <Darkside> havent heard anything so far
[11:06] <fsphil-laptop> listening on 28820 also
[11:06] <fsphil-laptop> silence
[11:06] <junderwood> ditto
[11:06] <fsphil-laptop> wait, lemme double check it's plugged in :p
[11:06] <GW8RAK> tx'ing
[11:07] <Darkside> nothing
[11:07] <Darkside> if its there, it sburied in the noise
[11:07] <Darkside> do some data
[11:07] <GW8RAK> Have you got any stations around 28.500?
[11:08] <GW8RAK> Sorry, can you hear....
[11:08] <Darkside> uhmm
[11:08] <GW8RAK> Not heard any VK's on the band
[11:08] <Darkside> nothing
[11:09] <Darkside> hmm might hear you better on 15m
[11:09] <Darkside> not sure tho
[11:09] <GW8RAK> I think the band is probably dead at your end.
[11:09] <Darkside> yeah
[11:09] <Darkside> i bet it is
[11:09] <GW8RAK> Let me just check propagation forecasts
[11:09] <Darkside> already checked
[11:09] <Darkside> 15m is probably best to the UK atm
[11:09] <Laurenceb_> lol the prediction
[11:10] <GW8RAK> Forecasts come from Australia
[11:10] <fsphil-laptop> antenna wasn't tuned
[11:11] <fsphil-laptop> hearing sstv on 28.680
[11:11] <earthshine-mob> Anyone know how long till launch?
[11:12] <Randomskk> v heavy winds at launch site
[11:13] <Randomskk> they're not entirely sure aiui. they are filling now
[11:14] <GW8RAK> Darkside, if I'm reading correctly, we need to be 20m. 16069 km
[11:15] <GW8RAK> Somewhere between 12 and 18MHz
[11:15] <Darkside> yeah
[11:15] <Darkside> don't worry about
[11:15] <Darkside> my setup is too crap for DX
[11:15] <fsphil-laptop> calling on 10m, 500mw. out of curiosity :)
[11:15] <GW8RAK> It would be nice if it worked between us.
[11:15] <GW8RAK> Frequency phil?
[11:16] <fsphil-laptop> 28.900
[11:16] <fsphil-laptop> will try again in a second
[11:16] <GW8RAK> Listening
[11:16] <fsphil-laptop> just called
[11:17] <fsphil-laptop> and again
[11:17] <GW8RAK> 28.3850 is the QRP calling channel
[11:17] <fsphil-laptop> I'm always afraid of someone answering, then I never know what to say ;)
[11:17] <GW8RAK> May be something there
[11:17] <GW8RAK> lol
[11:18] <fsphil-laptop> I still get nervous on the radio, silly really
[11:18] <GW8RAK> Just talk about politics. That always gets a nice QSO going
[11:18] <mattltm> 28.470
[11:18] <Laurenceb_> well it went up 4 meters
[11:18] <Laurenceb_> then burst and embedded itself several m into the ground
[11:18] <fsphil-laptop> wuman mattltm ?
[11:20] <mattltm> Yes, one of them strange rare operators.
[11:20] <fsphil-laptop> good signal
[11:20] <fsphil-laptop> man there's loads on this band
[11:20] <GW8RAK> What is her callsign? There's a big pile up
[11:20] <GW8RAK> SV?
[11:21] <earthshine-mob> burst at 4 metres?
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[11:21] <NigelMoby> Yey crimpers have arrived
[11:21] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[11:21] <fsphil-laptop> so this is what a pile up sounds like
[11:22] <mattltm> yup.
[11:22] <GW8RAK> Is she a SV2? That's Greece, so why the pile up?
[11:22] <mattltm> Im going to have a go in a min :)
[11:22] <GW8RAK> Or is it the change to talk to a girl?
[11:22] <GW8RAK> chance
[11:22] <mattltm> GIRLS!!!!!
[11:22] <mattltm> W2QO
[11:23] <NigelMoby> Lol
[11:23] <fsphil-laptop> gone quiet
[11:23] <GW8RAK> Too busy, I'll listen elsewhere
[11:23] <fsphil-laptop> ola ola?
[11:24] <fsphil-laptop> she's on 28.470 now
[11:24] <fsphil-laptop> oh she never moved
[11:25] <fsphil-laptop> payload is moving inside a building
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[11:26] <Laurenceb_> a girl on HAM ?! whats happenning.. ekkk
[11:26] <Laurenceb_> thats against the laws of physics
[11:26] <mattltm> oh, outside of europe :(
[11:26] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[11:26] <GW8RAK> Giving 88's to smelly amateurs who've never kissed a girl before
[11:26] <fsphil-laptop> ooh K1LTJ
[11:26] <fsphil-laptop> nice signal
[11:27] <mattltm> I got him too fsphil-laptop
[11:27] <Laurenceb_> 88s=heil hitlers?!
[11:27] <GW8RAK> After lunch the US will be open. Around 4 o'clock you'll hear the west coast coming in.
[11:27] <Randomskk> anyone know how to set the ft817 up to work repeaters? >_>
[11:27] <Laurenceb_> im confused
[11:27] <GW8RAK> Hugs and kisses Laurenceb_
[11:27] <fsphil-laptop> I must give that a go, with my 5 watts :)
[11:28] <NigelMoby> 88's :o
[11:28] <fsphil-laptop> Randomskk, the shift should be pre-programmed for 2m/70cm repeaters
[11:28] <fsphil-laptop> just a matter of turning on the tone
[11:28] <GW8RAK> Has the set been widebanded Randomskk?
[11:29] <GW8RAK> If it has, it can forget where the repeater sub bands are
[11:29] <Laurenceb_> is it still launching?
[11:29] <NigelMoby> Yep
[11:29] <Randomskk> fsphil-laptop: how do I turn on the tone
[11:29] <Randomskk> and yes, still launching, just more struggling with winds I'm told
[11:30] <fsphil-laptop> Randomskk, press F, scroll through the menus until you see RPT
[11:30] <fsphil-laptop> you'll also see TON
[11:30] <Randomskk> yup
[11:31] <fsphil-laptop> press that to turn the tone on
[11:31] <fsphil-laptop> you'll see a "T" icon at the bottom
[11:31] <fsphil-laptop> hold the TON button as a shortcut to the main menu where you set the tone frequency
[11:31] <fsphil-laptop> that'll vary depending on the repeater
[11:31] <fsphil-laptop> once the frequency is set, hold F to save
[11:32] <fsphil-laptop> if you press TON again it can turn on a tone squelch
[11:32] <fsphil-laptop> not sure how useful that is
[11:32] <Randomskk> aha, lovely
[11:33] <Randomskk> so it should automatically be doing split operation?
[11:33] <Randomskk> there's a little [-] icon at the bottom
[11:33] <Randomskk> as well as the [T]
[11:33] <fsphil-laptop> that sounds right yea
[11:33] <Upu> not up yet ?
[11:33] <fsphil-laptop> payload is in a field I think
[11:34] <Randomskk> launch
[11:34] <Upu> my timing is awesome sauce
[11:34] <daveake> mmmSauce
[11:34] <NigelMoby> Heh
[11:35] <earthshine> Launch?
[11:35] <Darkside> dont see launch on the tracker yet
[11:35] <fsphil-laptop> brown sauce?
[11:35] <earthshine> Still at 19m
[11:35] <fsphil-laptop> yea it's up
[11:35] <fsphil-laptop> 353m
[11:36] <fsphil-laptop> I'm testing a local trackery type program, working well so far
[11:36] <earthshine> Nothing on the tracker still
[11:36] <daveake> Nope
[11:36] <Randomskk> wait what, nothing?
[11:36] <daveake> Nothing
[11:37] <Randomskk> I can see it on the tracker
[11:37] <earthshine> Not a thing - still at 19 metres
[11:37] <Randomskk> have you refreshed?
[11:37] <Darkside> 0 updates
[11:37] <daveake> Still says 19m height; no updates
[11:37] <Darkside> hmm
[11:37] <Randomskk> oh, still at 19m
[11:37] <daveake> yes
[11:37] <jamvanderloeff> I'm not seeing anything
[11:37] <Randomskk> that's not nothing
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[11:37] <fsphil-laptop> 731m
[11:37] <daveake> nothing *new* since a while ago
[11:37] <earthshine> Well it's not updated then
[11:37] <number10> got signal here
[11:37] <griffonbot> Received email: "Re: [UKHAS] Re: Li-Ion and cold"
[11:37] <fsphil-laptop> data is definitely being uploaded
[11:37] <fsphil-laptop> and parsed
[11:37] <earthshine> I presume there is a receiver with FLDIGI in the field?
[11:37] <Darkside> yeah its not going to the tracker Randomskk
[11:37] <junderwood> dial freq?
[11:37] <number10> 634.6484
[11:38] <Darkside> last point was at 11:29:10
[11:39] <fsphil-laptop> listener JAVASCRIPT:VOID(0)KF7NIJ at 51.529900,-0.362800
[11:39] <fsphil-laptop> hehe
[11:39] <earthshine> Houston, we have a problem.
[11:39] <Darkside> i'm still seeing no data on the tracker
[11:39] <Darkside> apart from the last point at 14m altitude
[11:39] <junderwood> loads of signal, no decode. WHat are the modem settings/
[11:39] <number10> strugling to decode
[11:39] <Darkside> junderwood: it alternates between 300 baud and 50 baud
[11:39] <number10> is swapping between 50 and 300
[11:39] <Darkside> leave it on 300 baud
[11:40] <junderwood> Ah
[11:40] <fsphil-laptop> ooh another swappy baud
[11:40] <Darkside> i'm sure Randomskk is hurridly working on the tracker at the moment
[11:40] <Randomskk> yes
[11:40] <Randomskk> though DanielRichman fixed this issue a little while ago then had to go
[11:40] <Randomskk> so I'm stumbling in the dark
[11:40] <fsphil-laptop> 1259m up
[11:41] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: can you calculate the ascent rate?
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[11:41] <number10> well I cant decode anything yet
[11:41] <fsphil-laptop> hmm.. I'm not printing the time. one sec
[11:42] <daveake> Map's updating now
[11:42] <jamvanderloeff> and tracker is go
[11:42] <Darkside> yp
[11:42] <Darkside> cool
[11:42] <Randomskk> tracker is maybe go
[11:42] <Upu> got it here in Yorkshire
[11:42] <fsphil-laptop> that's neat Upu, horizon is nowhere near you
[11:43] <earthshine-mob> I can hear it now
[11:43] <Upu> very strong
[11:43] <fsphil-laptop> prediction for denmark? :)
[11:43] <Upu> not decoding @ 300
[11:43] <Darkside> Upu: remember that is shifts
[11:43] <Darkside> it*
[11:43] <Darkside> changes baud rate
[11:44] <Upu> switched to 50
[11:44] <Randomskk> is the tracker still updating?
[11:44] <costyn> is the shifting baud range by design?
[11:44] <earthshine-mob> yes
[11:44] <costyn> s/range/rate/
[11:44] <jamvanderloeff> tracker seems to have stopped again
[11:44] <fsphil-laptop> 2.127km
[11:44] <earthshine-mob> Lost it again
[11:45] <mattltm> I have it at 434.646.70
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[11:46] <mattltm> no decode though
[11:46] <Upu> is it RV ?
[11:46] <earthshine-mob> I had it nice and strong but now I can't hear it at all
[11:46] <NigelMoby> 645.9 here
[11:47] <jamvanderloeff> tracker still broken
[11:47] <earthshine-mob> ok I have it again
[11:47] <mattltm> Upu: rv or normal. No decode :(
[11:47] <Upu> same here
[11:47] <mattltm> ahh, 300 baud, RV
[11:47] <number10> I am secoding - was tunerd in wronge side ~) but data not apearoing on tracker
[11:47] <mattltm> that works.
[11:48] <Upu> its RV
[11:48] <Upu> got it
[11:48] <mattltm> 50 baud rv works too.
[11:48] <Upu> 2681
[11:48] <Upu> clear as a bell
[11:49] <Upu> I got the same sentence twice
[11:49] <Upu> intentional ?
[11:49] <Randomskk> I think so
[11:50] <Upu> still need ascent rate working out ?
[11:50] <fsphil-laptop> hehe, I calculated 20m/s... that can't be right
[11:50] <Randomskk> http://habitat.habhub.org/testing-web/demo.html
[11:50] <Randomskk> second APEX ALPHA near bottom of payload list
[11:50] <Randomskk> appears to be a spacenear.us related issue
[11:51] <Randomskk> so that backup web page should work
[11:51] <Randomskk> gives pos, alt, receivers
[11:51] <Randomskk> and a trace
[11:51] <Randomskk> (click GMaps, then the second APEX ALPHA)
[11:51] <Upu> 3.35 m/s ascent
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[11:51] <Darkside> spacenearus just updated
[11:52] <fsphil-laptop> fixed my ascent calculator, it was all wrong
[11:52] <fsphil-laptop> 4.18m/s
[11:53] <Darkside> hmm
[11:53] <fsphil-laptop> 3.87m/s .. say average that to 4m/s
[11:53] <Darkside> thats a bit fast
[11:53] <daveake> Ehat am I doing wrong here? ... can hear the signal fine, auto-conf from ALPHA, decode is a load of junk
[11:53] <GW8RAK> This is LSB?
[11:53] <Darkside> daveake: it switched between 50 baud and 300 baud
[11:53] <fsphil-laptop> LSB, or USB with RV ticked
[11:53] <Darkside> switches*
[11:54] <Darkside> oh, that too
[11:54] <GW8RAK> Okay
[11:54] <fsphil-laptop> yea, averaging 4m/s
[11:54] <Darkside> they got the pins the wrong way around :P
[11:54] <daveake> Just a mo ...
[11:54] <jamvanderloeff> Randomskk:Thanks
[11:54] <fsphil-laptop> 4km altitude
[11:55] <jamvanderloeff> 4.5km
[11:56] <Upu> getting decodes at 50 and 300 nicely
[11:56] <GW8RAK> Dial frequency please
[11:56] <Upu> 434.647.29
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[11:57] <GW8RAK> That is the one I'm tuned to. USB with Rv ticked
[11:57] <GW8RAK> still garbage
[11:57] <daveake> OK now on LSB. WHat/where is this RV thing?
[11:57] <daveake> RV = Reverse?
[11:58] <GW8RAK> Bottom option bar
[11:58] <fsphil-laptop> you don't need RV if the radio is in LSB
[11:58] <mattltm> yes.
[11:58] <mattltm> and USB
[11:58] <fsphil-laptop> LSB is USB reversed :)
[11:58] <daveake> Ah, cheers
[11:58] <daveake> I'm blind
[11:58] <GW8RAK> strong signal, but no decode at all
[11:58] <Upu> press RV
[11:58] <Upu> flicking between 50 and 300 here
[11:59] <GW8RAK> 50 baud is looking better
[11:59] <number10> ~I have one radio going on 300 and the other on 50
[11:59] <earthshine-mob> i can't decode either - signal reasonable
[11:59] <junderwood> earthshine, Rv
[11:59] <Upu> I couldn't decode at first just stick it on 50 ensure RV is checked
[12:00] <Upu> but that said 300 is lovely :)
[12:00] <earthshine-mob> OK I just decoded a string at 50 baud
[12:00] <GW8RAK> Trying 300 now
[12:00] <Upu> you can flick between them
[12:00] <Upu> there is enough time
[12:01] <LazyLeopard> My little old lappy can't quite keep up at 300...
[12:01] <LazyLeopard> 50 coming through solid.
[12:01] <Upu> lol alot of recievers :)
[12:02] <junderwood> Really struggling with 300. Signal looks very dirty
[12:02] <fsphil-laptop> Alot has a radio? :)
[12:02] <NigeyS> dial freq ?
[12:02] <Upu> strange is clear as here, no errors at 50 or 300
[12:02] <Upu> 434.647.29
[12:02] <NigeyS> ta upu
[12:02] <Upu> that needs retuning though
[12:02] <fsphil-laptop> hmm.. habhound is a bit crashy
[12:02] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: alot likes playing with radios
[12:02] <Upu> 434.648.00
[12:03] <Upu> shift is coming down a little
[12:04] <fsphil-laptop> Segmentation fault (core dumped) -- well that's just rude
[12:04] <Darkside> dl-fldigi?
[12:04] <junderwood> 50 & 300 both good here now.
[12:04] <fsphil-laptop> habhound
[12:04] <Darkside> oh
[12:04] <Darkside> lol
[12:04] <junderwood> 2 instances of dlfldigi and they're not fighting (at the moment)
[12:04] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: damn those hounds, taking dumps everywhere
[12:05] <Upu> this the best signal I've had in ages
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[12:05] <termm> Hi guys !
[12:05] <Darkside> hi termm
[12:05] <Darkside> who are you?
[12:05] <fsphil-laptop> lol Darkside
[12:05] <Upu> haha
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[12:06] <Upu> Darkside if I'm ever in a hostage situation I don't want you to be the negotiator that ok ? :)
[12:06] <number10> lol
[12:06] <Darkside> Upu: wha
[12:06] <Darkside> oh
[12:06] <Darkside> :-)
[12:06] <Darkside> i'm very direct
[12:06] <Darkside> uncompromisingly so
[12:06] <fsphil-laptop> the hound in action: http://i.imgur.com/HSVc4.png
[12:06] <fsphil-laptop> (ignore the xaben bit)
[12:07] <Darkside> oooo
[12:07] <fsphil-laptop> spent all morning doing the horizon circle :)
[12:07] <Darkside> so is that a linux app?
[12:07] <fsphil-laptop> at the moment, though in theory it should compile for windows with a struggle
[12:08] <Darkside> heh
[12:08] <fsphil-laptop> gah, still crashy though
[12:08] <fsphil-laptop> not sure what's causing that
[12:09] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... This payload's not expected to be recovered, I guess...
[12:09] <Darkside> nope
[12:09] <Darkside> :P
[12:10] <Upu> 434.648 400 shift
[12:10] <daveake> It won't necessarily be lonely where it's going :)
[12:10] <number10> lol
[12:11] Nick change: Upu -> Upu_2E0UPU
[12:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> duh
[12:11] <fsphil-laptop> the horizon circle is moving away from me :p
[12:13] <fsphil-laptop> ah no it isn't
[12:13] <NigeyS> phil, i expect an android version of habhound ok :p
[12:13] <jamvanderloeff> 8km!
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[12:13] <fsphil-laptop> NigeyS, that would be very cool
[12:13] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[12:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> tracker stopped ?
[12:13] <NigeyS> it would, specially for an el cheapo android chase tablet!
[12:14] <daveake> Looks like it
[12:14] <daveake> I've been uploading but they're notshowing
[12:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> Trackers broken again Randomskk
[12:14] <Randomskk> again check the habitat web ui
[12:14] <Randomskk> http://habitat.habhub.org/testing-web/demo.html
[12:14] <Randomskk> is up to date and working
[12:14] <Randomskk> spacenear.us issue
[12:15] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[12:15] <fsphil-laptop> Lunar_Lander, you might be able to receive this one later
[12:15] <Lunar_Lander> habhub works, might there be a malfunction?
[12:16] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[12:16] <Lunar_Lander> but I don't have a decent Yagi yet
[12:16] <Lunar_Lander> do you think the simple stick antenna works?
[12:16] <fsphil-laptop> get building :)
[12:16] <NigeyS> hehe
[12:16] <NigeyS> 8.6km nicey
[12:17] <fsphil-laptop> est. ascent is 3.25m/s
[12:17] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[12:18] <Lunar_Lander> 434.650MHz USB says spacenear
[12:18] <NigeyS> who's modts ?
[12:18] <Lunar_Lander> what do I have to set the FT-790R to?
[12:18] <GW8RAK> When it first goes into 300 baud mode, I get some decode, but nothing as time goes on. just rubbish
[12:19] <fsphil-laptop> NigeyS, Rob_M0DTS :)
[12:19] <NigeyS> ahh, was gonna ask how he can pick it up from there, then saw the 25 ele yagi bit..lol
[12:19] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[12:19] <Lunar_Lander> currently the display says 4.081.0
[12:19] <daveake> Spacenear seems happy again
[12:20] <NigeyS> Lunar_Lander, u want it so it says 4.650.0
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[12:20] <fsphil-laptop> Rob_M0DTS, tracked hadie:2 despite the broken antenna
[12:20] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[12:20] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[12:20] <NigeyS> blimey
[12:20] <NigeyS> 25 ele must be huuuuuuuuuuge, my 10 ele is kinda big!
[12:20] <Rob_M0DTS> Good signal here so far on 300bd
[12:20] <Rob_M0DTS> yagi is 5meters long!
[12:20] <NigeyS> 5? .. bloody hell..lol
[12:20] <fsphil-laptop> yikes
[12:21] <Rob_M0DTS> ham have four of them but only one up atm.
[12:21] <fsphil-laptop> you could do EME with that setup
[12:21] <Rob_M0DTS> that was the idea.
[12:21] <NigeyS> craaaazy!
[12:21] <NigeyS> EME?
[12:21] <fsphil-laptop> sweeet
[12:21] <fsphil-laptop> earth-moon-earth
[12:21] <NigeyS> oh moon bounce
[12:22] <Rob_M0DTS> i have contacted KP1AO via moon reflection on 432MHz
[12:22] <GW8RAK> Is altitude stuck?
[12:22] <Upu_2E0UPU> 9844 currently
[12:23] <junderwood> Rob_M0DTS, how about optical link from balloons?
[12:23] <junderwood> :)
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[12:23] <fsphil-laptop> I got some LEDs to try that :)
[12:23] <GW8RAK> 2 strings at 50 baud send same data
[12:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.649.78 shift 370
[12:23] <jcoxon> Morning
[12:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> ah the lesser spotted jcoxon
[12:23] <Rob_M0DTS> interesting idea... but hard work to track!
[12:23] <fsphil-laptop> 10km
[12:23] <number10> morning
[12:23] <jcoxon> Alt?
[12:23] <Upu_2E0UPU> 10k
[12:23] <earthshine-mob> 10000M
[12:23] <fsphil-laptop> 2.87m/s ascent
[12:24] <jamvanderloeff> 10K!
[12:24] <jcoxon> Ascent rate?
[12:24] <Lunar_Lander> ohh it will be destroyed!
[12:24] <Lunar_Lander> 2.9 m/s
[12:24] <jcoxon> On track then
[12:24] <earthshine-mob> It is weird there is no delay in-between 300 and 50
[12:24] <jcoxon> Excellent
[12:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> there is a delay
[12:24] <junderwood> Rob_M0DTS, you need the CUSF Trackotron
[12:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> where you get àààààààà's
[12:24] <daveake> I've got dl-fldigi running twice here - one for 50 and t'other for 300. Not got a full decode yet at 300.
[12:25] <Rob_M0DTS> junderwood, what's that?!
[12:25] <jcoxon> We need a spacenear.us app
[12:25] <junderwood> alt-az rotator tied in to the tracker
[12:26] <NigeyS> jcoxon :)
[12:26] Action: fsphil-laptop has a crashy app :)
[12:26] <jcoxon> Or a working kml stream
[12:26] <Rob_M0DTS> i see.. have the equipment but not installed.. my optical receiver is very narrow beam like 0.3degrees
[12:26] <NigeyS> we need an android app!
[12:26] <jcoxon> As Google maps could cope with that
[12:26] <Lunar_Lander> yes and Alpha will be destroyed!
[12:26] <Lunar_Lander> !
[12:26] <jamvanderloeff> that would be epic
[12:26] <fsphil-laptop> think there's some thread-voodoo going on
[12:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> distance 576513.5
[12:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> whats that in mm ?
[12:27] <NigeyS> jcoxon, ure in the states? :|
[12:27] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[12:27] <jcoxon> Yup
[12:27] <NigeyS> oo, having a good time ?
[12:27] <Upu_2E0UPU> ah I see
[12:27] <jcoxon> Yeah excellent
[12:27] <jamvanderloeff> i'm in NZ
[12:27] <NigeyS> :D
[12:27] <NigeyS> NZ .. are u a kiwi ?
[12:27] <jamvanderloeff> yup.
[12:28] <NigeyS> uhoh
[12:28] <NigeyS> so err.. rugby tomorrow...
[12:28] <NigeyS> :p
[12:28] <earthshine-mob> I keep getting just 1 corrupt character in an otherwise perfect string
[12:28] <jcoxon> Good luck with the flight
[12:28] <fsphil-laptop> fec ftw :)
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[12:28] <Lunar_Lander> btw I know a person who can drive over water to get the payload back
[12:28] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[12:28] <NigeyS> jesus ?
[12:28] <Lunar_Lander> The Stig!
[12:28] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[12:28] <fsphil-laptop> he didn't have a beard and wooden leg by any chance?
[12:28] <NigeyS> lol
[12:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> Steve Randall...
[12:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> :)
[12:29] <fsphil-laptop> LOL
[12:29] <NigeyS> lol upu
[12:29] <NigeyS> ya know what we need dont ya
[12:29] <NigeyS> a ukhas hovercraft
[12:29] <Lunar_Lander> LOL
[12:29] <Lunar_Lander> Steve is the new Stig?
[12:29] <Rob_M0DTS> or a sub to go retrieve it...
[12:29] <fsphil-laptop> Some say he can produce helium just by thinking
[12:29] <daveake> lol
[12:30] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[12:30] <NigeyS> daveake, my crap-o-camm is a dead crap-o-cam
[12:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> and that his condoms are made by Hwoyee...
[12:30] <fsphil-laptop> radio horizon is creeping over the isle of man
[12:30] <daveake> That's the best sort
[12:30] <NigeyS> corrupt images, and video with no err..video...
[12:30] <griffonbot> @apexhab: Live altitude counter :) #ukhas #apexhab http://t.co/6Ll6xGcO [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127723494627745793]
[12:30] <fsphil-laptop> what's the dial frequency?
[12:30] <daveake> dodgy card?
[12:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.649.78 370 shift
[12:30] <jamvanderloeff> 11km
[12:30] <NigeyS> brand new sdcard, 8 gig kingston
[12:31] <NigeyS> it works totally at random
[12:31] <daveake> fsphil: Some say he never blinks and that he roams around the woods at night foraging suspended payloads.
[12:31] <daveake> for
[12:31] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[12:32] <fsphil-laptop> he doesn't need dl-fldigi, he can decode it by ear
[12:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> quick alert the HAMs this is coming in range of disrupting all the repeaters!
[12:32] <daveake> :D
[12:32] <Lunar_Lander> rofl
[12:32] <Darkside> lol
[12:32] <Randomskk> Upu_2E0UPU: oooh noooo
[12:33] <daveake> Some say he had a tooth filling tuned to 434.650MHz
[12:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[12:33] <fsphil-laptop> haha
[12:34] <fsphil-laptop> 434.650mhz is lovely and clear today
[12:34] <jamvanderloeff> 12k
[12:35] <fsphil-laptop> long way down
[12:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> jamvanderloeff this is normal it gets exciting when it goes above 38k :)
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[12:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> everyone else flicking between 50 and 300 or is it just me ?
[12:36] <Lunar_Lander> LOL daveake
[12:36] <NigeyS> just you :p lol
[12:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[12:37] <daveake> Why not run dl-fldigi twice?
[12:37] Action: Upu_2E0UPU face palm
[12:37] <fsphil-laptop> haha
[12:37] <jamvanderloeff> that's 50 seconds of complete freefall without air resistance =)
[12:37] <daveake> I'm a simple man with simple ideas :D
[12:37] <earthshine-mob> Upu_2E0UPU: I'm staying at 50
[12:37] <fsphil-laptop> I think I'll do the same
[12:37] <fsphil-laptop> if it appears
[12:38] <daveake> Still no decodes here at 300
[12:38] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[12:38] <daveake> Proll about 1 in 10-20 characters wrong
[12:38] <Lunar_Lander> if I may ask who did watch the Soyuz flight yesterday?
[12:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> well damn I didn't realise you could run 2 dl-fldigis I feel stoopid now
[12:39] <junderwood> Two sets of dlfldigi running at once here.
[12:39] <junderwood> Working much better since I moved the antenna so it isn't looking through the house
[12:39] <daveake> Yeah, my mistake a few weeks ago was not bothering to open the blinds ...
[12:39] <fsphil-laptop> take back what I said about 434.650 being quiet :)
[12:39] <daveake> ... the thermal insulation blinds .... :)
[12:40] <jamvanderloeff> 13km
[12:40] <Upu_2E0UPU> tracker stuck again ?
[12:40] <NigeyS> seems to be stuck on 11.9k
[12:40] <number10> is it my imaginate - but does the shift drop on the 300bd transmissions compared to the 50
[12:40] <Lunar_Lander> btw jamvanderloeff was right about 12K being significant
[12:41] <daveake> number10 - looks like that to me
[12:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> space@spacenear.us [~]# ps ax | grep httpd | wc -l
[12:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> 103
[12:41] <NigeyS> lol upu
[12:41] <NigeyS> just a few
[12:41] <Lunar_Lander> because this is the border to the stratosphere, at least in the latitudes of Europe, North America and Australia
[12:42] <NigeyS> Upu_2E0UPU, when it gets to this you want to start worrying...
[12:43] <NigeyS> [nigel@372235-web1 ~]$ ps ax |grep httpd | wc -l
[12:43] <NigeyS> 1843
[12:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah hope you have a decent CPU(s) in that
[12:43] <NigeyS> hex core Xeon
[12:43] <NigeyS> with HT
[12:43] <fsphil-laptop> why do all the interesting flights happen when I have to go out for lunch :p
[12:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> spacenear.us doesn't have that :)
[12:43] <NigeyS> what's it running ?
[12:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
[12:45] <Laurenceb_> heh
[12:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> shift is less at 300
[12:45] <NigeyS> oo, C2D's aint bad mind
[12:45] <Laurenceb_> tons of receivers
[12:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah very impressive turn out
[12:45] <Lunar_Lander> does anybody have an Intel iX CPU?
[12:46] <Lunar_Lander> with x={3,5,7}
[12:46] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[12:46] <Darkside> i have a quad core i7 in my macbook pro
[12:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> I have an i7 ?
[12:46] <NigeyS> i7's woop ass
[12:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> 950
[12:46] <GW8RAK> 300 baud decode :)
[12:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> yay :)
[12:47] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[12:47] <daveake> [jealous] :)
[12:47] <Lunar_Lander> :P yea
[12:47] <Upu_2E0UPU> what temperature sensors are on this btw ?
[12:48] <Lunar_Lander> I think they are not by Advanced Micro Devices
[12:48] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[12:49] <Matt_soton> ds18b20
[12:50] <Upu_2E0UPU> hmm
[12:50] <Upu_2E0UPU> more accurate than mine
[12:50] <Upu_2E0UPU> I need to recode those
[12:51] <daveake> Upu if you want a DS18B20 to play with, I can send you one FOC. I bought plenty :)
[12:51] <costyn> Upu_2E0UPU: i'm using the dallas temp library... kinda big but makes it easy
[12:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> I have loads thx Maxim sent me some samples but the page timeout so I kept hitting submit
[12:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> and I got 12 :)
[12:51] <daveake> Sob I nly got 10 LOL
[12:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> I'm using that, doesn't seem to work with the ones I have. I'll have a look at it soon
[12:52] <costyn> daveake: well I only have 2 so don't feel bad
[12:52] <daveake> And I paid for moine!
[12:52] <daveake> :D
[12:52] <daveake> mine
[12:52] <Upu_2E0UPU> no no just go to maxim and get some samples
[12:52] <fsphil-laptop> I got 2, but I don't know where they are either
[12:52] <daveake> Yeah, will do next time
[12:52] <daveake> Just didn't think of it.
[12:53] <fsphil-laptop> right, can't wait for this signal to appear. too hungry. bbl :)
[12:53] <priyesh> hello #highaltitude
[12:53] <costyn> priyesh: hi... launch went well?
[12:53] <priyesh> yeah.. quite windy
[12:53] <priyesh> but other than that, was great
[12:53] <Lunar_Lander> Some say he feeds from the RF energy beaming from high altitude balloons
[12:53] <Upu_2E0UPU> you have time fsphil-laptop this is going to be a long one
[12:54] <danielsaul> hiya
[12:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> hi priyesh your antenna is superb signal is excellent
[12:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> send pictures pls I want to copy it
[12:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> :)
[12:54] <priyesh> Upu_2E0UPU: will do!
[12:54] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[12:54] <priyesh> :)
[12:54] <danielsaul> It is ugly and awful antenna on it :P
[12:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> well it works
[12:54] <Lunar_Lander> daveake's Stig jokes work better
[12:54] <danielsaul> Amazingly :P
[12:54] Action: costyn would like to see the antenna design too
[12:55] <daveake> :D
[12:55] <priyesh> costyn: will do after the launch!
[12:55] <costyn> priyesh: thanks!
[12:55] <Lunar_Lander> do you mean lunch?
[12:55] <Upu_2E0UPU> is the distance in dl-fldigi wrong for anyone else or just me ?
[12:56] <junderwood> everyone, I think
[12:56] <jamvanderloeff> meh. I'm not staying up till 4. Goodnight peeps.
[12:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> night Jam
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[12:56] <junderwood> I'ts the lat/lon format in the telemetry, I think
[12:56] <costyn> jamvanderloeff: cya
[12:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> M6VX0 on here ?
[12:56] <junderwood> No. He's on a boat south of West Africa :)
[12:57] <earthshine-mob> One of my neighbours has powered up some kind of power tool and it's causing massive RF
[12:57] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol yes that was what I was going to advise :)
[12:57] <Matt_soton> ya Upu_2E0UPU
[12:57] <Lunar_Lander> DAMN
[12:57] <Upu_2E0UPU> that you Matt ?
[12:57] <Matt_soton> yea
[12:57] <Lunar_Lander> I wanted to watch a rocket video on youtube
[12:57] <Lunar_Lander> and then there was a video suggestion about a tooth extraction!
[12:57] <Upu_2E0UPU> your co-ordinates are wrong in dl-fldigit
[12:58] <Matt_soton> i know, jons been moaning at me for it
[12:58] <Randomskk> they're not wrong
[12:58] <Randomskk> just an amazing antenna setup
[12:58] <Randomskk> the mast is kilometres tall
[12:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[12:58] <costyn> haha
[12:58] <junderwood> EME
[12:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> he's on the space elevator
[12:58] <Lunar_Lander> LOL
[12:58] <Randomskk> HABME more like
[12:58] <jonsowman> haha
[12:58] <costyn> or ISS
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[12:59] <Lunar_Lander> I remember a car commercial which had a view over a city and the buildings had sentences on them with "someone is doing this and that"
[12:59] <earthshine-mob> Signal is a to weaker for me now
[12:59] <Lunar_Lander> and a sentence was moving down along one of the buildings, saying "Someone is having sex in an elevator"
[12:59] <earthshine-mob> *lot
[13:00] <fsphil> Boy is it wet here today
[13:01] <LazyLeopard> Getting the occasional lines, but probably need to get the yagi out...
[13:05] <earthshine-mob> Nice and sunny here
[13:05] <Lunar_Lander> OK I can hear static but also a "dit-dit" in regular intervals
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[13:05] <Lunar_Lander> on spacenear, the blue perimeter just reached me
[13:05] <Lunar_Lander> no
[13:05] <Lunar_Lander> not yet
[13:08] <Laurenceb_> why does spacenear keep hanging
[13:08] <Randomskk> something up with the server
[13:08] <earthshine-mob> Is the shift decreasing?
[13:10] <LazyLeopard> I've got the shift at about 340
[13:10] <earthshine-mob> SAme here - but it started off at 425
[13:11] <daveake> Yeah it has dropped since earlier
[13:11] <earthshine-mob> I'm going to climb over my garden fence and strangle my neighbour in a minute
[13:11] <NigeyS> lol
[13:11] <daveake> So today I got a dash holder for my netbook. The clamp gets in the way of the line in socket so I foresee some minor hackery :)
[13:12] <NigeyS> hacksaw!
[13:12] <daveake> :D
[13:12] <daveake> Seems quite good for the money
[13:13] <Lunar_Lander> Some say that his overall contains a layer to shield of RF noise
[13:13] <GW8RAK> Is this flight setting new distance records for 300 baud?
[13:13] <eroomde> my netbook suction cup mount thing broke
[13:13] <eroomde> upsettingly
[13:13] <GW8RAK> Never been able to copy them before
[13:13] <eroomde> wasn't the most robust thing
[13:13] <daveake> Broke in use?
[13:13] <daveake> As in netbook landing on the floor?
[13:13] <earthshine-mob> Do you guys find it better to have the signal on the right hand side of the waterfall ?
[13:13] <eroomde> GW8RAK: we got about 300-400km at 300baud on Nova 2 in 2006
[13:13] <earthshine-mob> i.e. a higher pitched tone
[13:14] <LazyLeopard> Slap in the middle for preference.
[13:14] <eroomde> we don't know exactly how far because once it was clear it was a wet landing we went to the pub and the decoder crashed at some point when it was about 350km away
[13:14] <daveake> Also got a windscreen mount for Mrs Dave's Samsung Tab. Except it's for the old 7" model not her 10" one .... will see if they'll take it back.
[13:14] <GW8RAK> I'll have to measure this one. What's easiest way? lat long calculator?
[13:14] <daveake> google for "google map distance calculator"
[13:14] <eroomde> google earth has a great circle distance calculator too
[13:14] <GW8RAK> Thank you
[13:15] <earthshine-mob> I just seem to find that it decodes more successfully with higher pitched tones for some reason
[13:15] <earthshine-mob> Tracker stuck at 13:03
[13:16] <daveake> Yep. 20km coming up.
[13:16] <Upu_2E0UPU> think it just needs to catch up
[13:18] <LazyLeopard> Getting too many data lines, huh?
[13:18] <earthshine-mob> Very weak signal for me now
[13:19] <earthshine-mob> I guess it is over the sea by now
[13:19] <LazyLeopard> Lovely patch of digital QRM slap on top of it at the moment... :/
[13:19] <fsphil> Someone near London decided my last flight at 300 baud
[13:19] <fsphil> Decoded
[13:19] <russss> wow, lots of receivers
[13:19] <russss> I need to get my antenna back on the roof :/
[13:19] <daveake> 13 earlier
[13:20] <earthshine-mob> Going to try the yogi again
[13:22] <earthshine-mob> that's better
[13:22] <number10> booboo
[13:22] <daveake> lol
[13:22] <LazyLeopard> Upu_2E0UPU: It is an ex-tracker...
[13:23] <daveake> I found a page fo Yogi Bear quotes via google. The title says "Yogi Bear Quotes". But they're "Yogi Berra" quotes LOL
[13:24] <number10> i'll give ut a search later
[13:24] <daveake> :)
[13:24] <SamSilver> bought some rocket but it went off
[13:25] <number10> I am not smarter than the average bear - as my yagi seems to be getting a prrorer signal than my indoor magmount - summint is up
[13:25] <number10> poorer
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[13:25] <LazyLeopard> Signal's been rather variable...
[13:26] <daveake> You added that cross wire thing?
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[13:26] <earthshine-mob> almost decoded it at 300
[13:26] <number10> yes
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[13:27] <earthshine-mob> \o/
[13:27] <earthshine-mob> yay 3 perfect strings at 300
[13:27] <number10> instructions were a bit hard to follow - My cross wire not as short as what you did daveake
[13:27] <daveake> Yeah, I'd not seen an arrangement like that before.
[13:27] <LazyLeopard> ...and the tracker's been stopped for over 20 minutes now. I don't think it's just catching up...
[13:28] <number10> I'll take it to work and get one of the rf guys to look at it on the network analyser
[13:28] <earthshine-mob> the tracker is fuubar
[13:28] <LazyLeopard> /insert dead parrot jokes
[13:29] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: RT @apexhab: Live altitude counter :) #ukhas #apexhab http://t.co/6Ll6xGcO [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/127738309647675392]
[13:30] <number10> looks like nasa control with the tracker projection :)
[13:30] <costyn> maybe it has been slashdotted? inundated with too many requests?
[13:30] <daveake> Tracker can't cope with parotty errors
[13:30] <junderwood> Hey. We have tracker
[13:30] <NigeyS> 23.2km
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[13:32] <fsphil> Silly mobile internet
[13:33] <NigeyS> :p
[13:34] <Darkside> fsphil: are you up a hill?
[13:34] <earthshine-mob> successfully decoding at 30 repeatedly now
[13:34] <earthshine-mob> 300
[13:35] <fsphil> In a restaurant :)
[13:35] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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[13:36] <fsphil> What's the altitude now?
[13:37] <Andrew_apex_mob> 24787
[13:38] <Upu_2E0UPU> you getting it yet fsphil ?
[13:38] <fsphil> Can't tell :(
[13:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> its a strong signal you'd know
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[13:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> 434.648.92
[13:39] <fsphil> No way to control the rig mobile
[13:39] <Lunar_Lander> I just get dit-dit
[13:39] <Lunar_Lander> S-Meter shows 0
[13:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> S meter don't go up
[13:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> its a weak signal but you should see 2 lines on the water fall
[13:40] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[13:40] <earthshine-mob> Where are you Lunar_Lander ?
[13:41] <Lunar_Lander> north-west germany
[13:41] <Lunar_Lander> near osnabrueck
[13:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> Lunar_Lander http://imagebin.org/180288
[13:42] <earthshine-mob> Should get a weak signal from there with a decent Yagi
[13:42] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[13:42] <Lunar_Lander> if I had a yagi
[13:42] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[13:42] <Lunar_Lander> ah thanks Upu_2E0UPU
[13:42] <daveake> 12dB!! That's 10 more than I'm getting!
[13:43] <number10> I see you are spending money at Faarnell Upu_2E0UPU - you'll be in trouble
[13:43] <Lunar_Lander> LOL
[13:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> haha
[13:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> busted
[13:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> don't tell the wife
[13:43] <junderwood> daveake, don't believe the S/N. I have 10dB @ 300 baud and 2 dB @ 50 baud
[13:44] <junderwood> (off the same antenna and radio)
[13:44] <daveake> This is usually the point where someone spots a browser tab pointing somewhere naughty ... :D
[13:44] <griffonbot> @cuspaceflight: Tracking Apex Alpha from CUED roof! #cusf #apexhab http://t.co/yhGDpJEu [http://twitter.com/cuspaceflight/status/127742101478842368]
[13:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> haha no nothing naughty open at the moment anyway
[13:45] <daveake> You checked though, didn't you ;)
[13:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> look at that beastie
[13:45] <number10> lol
[13:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> looks like its got some sort of gun on it
[13:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> I want one of those :)
[13:46] <Randomskk> yay the cusf autorotator is working
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[13:51] <jcoxon> Update?
[13:51] <Darkside> its in teh air?
[13:51] <jcoxon> Realised that spacenear doesn't work on Android
[13:51] <jcoxon> Alt?
[13:51] <daveake> 28223
[13:52] <jcoxon> Cool
[13:52] <daveake> spacenear.us works ok on the Galaxy Tab, which is Android
[13:52] <Darkside> daveake: can't buy those here :(
[13:52] <jcoxon> It loads the map but no track
[13:52] <Darkside> goddamn apple injunction
[13:52] <daveake> Rate ~ 3.9m/s
[13:52] <daveake> I'll try ....
[13:53] <jonsowman> the trakotron is working nicely :D
[13:53] <daveake> ... track is fine on the Tab
[13:53] <fsphil> No luck with an HTC Wildfire
[13:54] <daveake> I'll try the Desire ...
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[13:54] <Lunar_Lander> Desire sounds like a phone for women
[13:54] Nick change: Steve___ -> Guest43968
[13:55] <earthshine-mob> nice strong signal now
[13:55] <fsphil> I don't think GTK apps can be ported easily to Android
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[13:56] <nickolai89> ping Randomskk
[13:56] <Randomskk> hi
[13:56] <nickolai89> doing well?
[13:57] <Randomskk> not bad! we're sitting in the CUED builting in the skylab with our automated tracker
[13:57] <earthshine-mob> Is it possible to open 2 instances of FLDIGI ?
[13:57] <Randomskk> don't think so
[13:57] <nickolai89> CUED building? skylab? lol, those things don't mean a whole lot to me
[13:58] <daveake> 15 trackers listed just now
[13:58] <Lunar_Lander> Skylab was your first space station!
[13:58] <earthshine-mob> US
[13:58] <fsphil> Yea
[13:58] <nickolai89> no, Salyut 1 :)
[13:58] <daveake> 2 * fldigi - yes.
[13:58] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[13:58] <Lunar_Lander> yay we crossed 30000
[13:58] <priyesh> 30000!
[13:58] <Lunar_Lander> btw nickolai we had a man from new zealand here earlier
[13:58] <daveake> Another 10000 to go :)
[13:58] <priyesh> yay
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[13:59] <fsphil> I've run two dl-fldigi on the last apex flight
[13:59] <nickolai89> so, Randomskk, I'm planning to launch tomorrow - what needs to be done to setup the spacenear tracking for another attempt with the same callsign (PRHAL)
[14:03] <Randomskk> nickolai89: if it is the same callsign and settings as before it should basically just work
[14:03] <Lunar_Lander> LOL the ISH definition is good
[14:03] <nickolai89> Hmm, I'll try again then
[14:03] <nickolai89> thanks
[14:03] <Randomskk> nickolai89: give me a shout if you are uploading telem and it's not working
[14:04] <Randomskk> though atm spacenear.us is playing up
[14:04] <nickolai89> playing up?
[14:05] <Randomskk> messages from habitat aren't getting through to it
[14:05] <Lunar_Lander> btw is the flight registered at Arhab for the record?
[14:05] <Randomskk> yes
[14:05] <Lunar_Lander> good
[14:05] <nosebleedKT> hi all
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[14:07] <Lunar_Lander> hi nosebleedKT
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[14:08] <nosebleedKT> did u watch agora?
[14:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> anyone got any suggestions for board battery connectors, preferably ones with a lock on them
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[14:10] <NigeyS> jst upu
[14:10] <Randomskk> Upu_2E0UPU: JST
[14:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> thx looking now, do they do any PCB mount recepticles or just wire to socket ?
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[14:12] <Randomskk> Upu_2E0UPU: they are all PCB mount recepticles unless I'm misunderstanding you
[14:12] <Randomskk> PCB side http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8612
[14:12] <Randomskk> example battery side http://www.sparkfun.com/products/339
[14:13] <Lunar_Lander> not yet nosebleedKT
[14:13] <Lunar_Lander> but will do, definately!
[14:13] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[14:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> thanks
[14:14] <nosebleedKT> :)
[14:14] <daveake> Over sea now :)
[14:15] <number10> *could waves and says please save me
[14:15] <number10> cloud
[14:15] <daveake> lol
[14:15] <number10> I am sure next time we meet I am going to get a clout
[14:16] <x-f> \
[14:16] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[14:16] <daveake> :p
[14:16] <x-f> sorry.
[14:19] <Lunar_Lander> brb
[14:19] <nickolai89> fsphil are you online?
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[14:22] <Lunar_Lander2> back
[14:23] <fsphil> Heading home now, is it still up?
[14:23] <NigeyS> yup
[14:23] <NigeyS> wb kev
[14:23] <earthshine-mob> Is that flight purely a transmitter and nothing else in the payload?
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[14:24] <NigeyS> just xmitter, gps, and temp sensors i think
[14:24] <nickolai89> fsphil, what sort of antenna do u use on your payload for transmitting?
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[14:24] <earthshine-mob> Signal too weak for me snow and it's gone below the neighbours roof so i'm stopping receiving
[14:24] <earthshine-mob> s/snow/now
[14:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> near moar hill
[14:25] <NigeyS> its slowed down a bit, this is where the fun begins
[14:25] <earthshine-mob> 116k feet
[14:26] <LazyLeopard> Question is... will it decide to float for a while...
[14:26] <fsphil> Nickolai89, quarterwave vertical. Made from coax, nicknamed the shagi
[14:26] <earthshine-mob> Ascent rate is dropping
[14:26] <nickolai89> 1/4 wave vertical? how is that different from a normal 1/4 wave?
[14:27] <earthshine-mob> -19 brrrrrr
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[14:27] <daveake> -19 is warm and cozy ...
[14:27] <daveake> -53 is where it's at :)
[14:28] <nickolai89> i'm worried about potentially losing communication with my payload tomorrow, hence all the antenna questions :)
[14:28] <NigeyS> actually, all flights get to about -70ish as it passes through the tropopause (sp)
[14:28] <number10> thats what you meant by Buzz is cool
[14:28] <daveake> :)
[14:28] <earthshine-mob> nickolai: launching from where?
[14:29] <GW8RAK> Prediction is stretching out to near the Netherlands
[14:29] <earthshine-mob> Ascent rate increasing!
[14:30] <earthshine-mob> Anyone know what the sea currents are doing in that landing zone?
[14:30] <nickolai89> earthshine-mob: from Purdue
[14:30] <nickolai89> in IN, US
[14:30] <earthshine-mob> Ah - that might be a little tricky for me to pick up
[14:31] <earthshine-mob> It's losing altitde
[14:32] <fsphil> Float?
[14:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> yup
[14:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> 32 meters in 1 min
[14:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> 0.5m/s
[14:32] <earthshine-mob> cool
[14:32] <NigeyS> oh this is gonna be a long flight
[14:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> no not cool
[14:32] <earthshine-mob> Fingers crossed it will stay there
[14:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> baaaad
[14:32] <fsphil> What alt?
[14:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> 36k
[14:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> 36062
[14:32] <Upu_2E0UPU> and now.... 36063
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[14:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> 36063
[14:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> yup float
[14:33] <earthshine-mob> Why is that bad?
[14:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> because its not going up
[14:33] <NigeyS> they tend not to go much higher
[14:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> its not coming down
[14:33] <Upu_2E0UPU> this should have gone to 40k +
[14:34] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... It's coming your way, Dutch-Mill...
[14:34] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh its going up again
[14:34] <earthshine-mob> Is this an altitude attempt?
[14:34] <NigeyS> to little he :/
[14:34] <Upu_2E0UPU> 36109
[14:34] <Upu_2E0UPU> yes earthshine
[14:34] <Dutch-Mill> Yes I see
[14:34] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[14:35] <daveake> Not far off cloud2 for #5
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[14:35] <earthshine-mob> What's the UK distance record?
[14:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> still creeping up
[14:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> distance or altitude earthshine ?
[14:36] <earthshine-mob> both
[14:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> PBH-13 (LM/ Cornell U) 41157 m
[14:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> Horus 15.5 - 40575 m
[14:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> Bello Mondo 5 - 39854 m
[14:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> Alt
[14:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> distance is fsphil @ 550km or something
[14:36] <daveake> http://ukhas.org.uk/general:uk_records
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[14:36] <Lunar_Lander> back
[14:36] <Dutch-Mill> Nice (new) function the dynamic landing prediction on the tracker
[14:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> coming to you Lunar_Lander
[14:37] <Lunar_Lander> so how does it work, I got dl-fldigi open
[14:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> can you hear it
[14:37] <daveake> So who's going to recover the payload? ;)
[14:37] <eroomde> oooh floating seems imminent
[14:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> technically thats a float eroomde
[14:37] <eroomde> mystery magic floating forces claim another soul
[14:38] <daveake> Now 5th highest, knocking my unintentional 5th down to 6th
[14:38] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[14:39] <Lunar_Lander> there is an occasional dit-dit
[14:39] <fsphil> Bet it bursts before I get home
[14:39] <Lunar_Lander> the display shows 4.650.0
[14:40] <fsphil> Local noise probably lunar
[14:41] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[14:41] <Lunar_Lander> but how do i get the HAB mode of dl-fldigi?
[14:41] <earthshine-mob> Lunar_Lander: What are you using as a receiver?
[14:41] <Lunar_Lander> I downloaded here http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi and only get the normal display
[14:41] <Lunar_Lander> FT-790R
[14:41] <earthshine-mob> Open the HAB exe then the normal one
[14:42] <earthshine-mob> download the config and set as ALPHA
[14:42] <fsphil> You should have two icons
[14:42] <Lunar_Lander> I got only one
[14:43] <earthshine-mob> Lunar_Lander: What is your OS ?
[14:43] <Lunar_Lander> win 7
[14:43] <earthshine-mob> You are downloading the binary ?
[14:44] <Lunar_Lander> yea that EXE
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[14:46] <daveake> Copy the icon, then right-click the copy, choose properties from the menu, go to the Target box, go to the right end of the text and add a space and then -hab
[14:46] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[14:46] <Lunar_Lander> I know what happened
[14:46] <Lunar_Lander> he did the icons on the admin desktop and not mine
[14:46] <Lunar_Lander> brb
[14:47] <fsphil-laptop> home sweet home
[14:48] <fsphil-laptop> I has signal
[14:48] <fsphil-laptop> and text
[14:48] <fsphil-laptop> although it's weak
[14:48] <Randomskk> signal level is surprisingly low here
[14:48] <Randomskk> like S0
[14:48] <Randomskk> decodes fine though
[14:49] <earthshine-mob> This is going to be a loooong flight
[14:49] <fsphil-laptop> getting most of the strings
[14:49] <fsphil-laptop> just the odd bad character
[14:50] <fsphil-laptop> and typically lots of QRM
[14:50] <Randomskk> we're at 10deg el
[14:50] <earthshine> We really need Lunar_Lander to get his kit working now as he's the closest
[14:50] <Randomskk> having an antenna rotator that keeps pointing the yagi is super convenient =D
[14:50] <fsphil-laptop> oh go away noise
[14:51] <NigeyS> lol
[14:51] <fsphil-laptop> meh lol
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[14:51] <Randomskk> is is having the yagi on the roof of a 5th floor building, heh
[14:51] <fsphil-laptop> mehmeh
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[14:52] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[14:52] <Lunar_Lander> HAB mode startiung
[14:52] <Lunar_Lander> starting
[14:52] <earthshine> Cool - we really need you to get it now
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> Time since Rx "ages"
[14:53] <earthshine> You're the furthest east
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeag
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[14:53] <earthshine> Good luck
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> I only hope this works without yagi
[14:53] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[14:53] <fsphil-laptop> you'll hear it on a whip within a few 100km I think
[14:53] <earthshine> The burst point has moved west again
[14:53] <fsphil-laptop> you know I'd be decoding this if it wasn't for the local noise
[14:54] <earthshine> Looks like it's going to be a wet landing
[14:54] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[14:55] <earthshine> Dutch-Mill: Are you in the channel ?
[14:56] <Lunar_Lander> I think I can hear some RTTY in the background
[14:57] <Darkside> oh god float
[14:58] <Darkside> oh crap, now you might beat my OTHER record
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[14:58] <daveake> lol
[14:58] <fsphil-laptop> signal is pretty weak here now
[14:58] <fsphil-laptop> I may just have missed it
[14:58] <NigeyS> ure right on the edge phil
[14:59] <Randomskk> Darkside: for longest flight?
[14:59] <earthshine> I think that's about 10 hours
[14:59] <Darkside> earthshine: horua 16 did 24 hours 17 minutes
[14:59] <Darkside> horus*
[15:00] <Darkside> that was our 2000g hwoyee altitude record launch...
[15:00] <earthshine> cool
[15:00] <Darkside> i think we've learnt something here. don't try for an altitude record with a 2000g hwoyee
[15:00] <Darkside> it don't work
[15:00] <Randomskk> indeed
[15:00] <earthshine> Landing point now back in Germany
[15:00] <Randomskk> though you are sitting smug with your record from the 1.6kg :P
[15:00] <Randomskk> 24 hours... D:
[15:00] <Randomskk> I will be really sad if that happens
[15:01] <Randomskk> also I don't think we could track it
[15:01] <Darkside> earthshine: the predictor assumes it will continue rising to 40km or so
[15:01] <Darkside> which it won't
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> any idea why I am not on the map?
[15:01] <Darkside> should probably change the predictors alt cap to below where the paylaod currently is
[15:01] <Darkside> that way we'll see where it will land if it bursts now
[15:01] <earthshine> Lunar_Lander: Did you turn it to online ?
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> under DL Client?
[15:01] <Rob_M0DTS> nice floating
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[15:01] <earthshine> Give it some time it takes a while to show up
[15:02] <earthshine> There you are
[15:02] <Lunar_Lander> yay
[15:02] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[15:02] <benchoff> Does this thing have a chute or is it going to drop like a styrofoam rock?
[15:02] <earthshine> \o/
[15:02] <Darkside> benchoff: no chute i think
[15:02] <NigeyS> rock i think
[15:02] <Darkside> 10m/s landing speed prolly
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> I think I can hear the RTTY sound in the static
[15:03] <Darkside> predictor is assuming 8m/s
[15:03] <Darkside> how about i change the predictor to have a burst point at 36km, that way it'll always show the landing zone
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> if it is set to ALPHA, all RTTY settings should be allright?
[15:03] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: and Rv if you are on USB
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> Rv ok
[15:04] <Lunar_Lander> the receiver is on USB, yes
[15:04] <Darkside> ok next predictor update should show what happens if it burst now
[15:04] <Darkside> there we go
[15:04] <fsphil-laptop> signal has more or less gone here now
[15:05] <Upu_2E0UPU> still creeping up
[15:06] <Randomskk> dl-fldigi has frozen, sigh :P
[15:07] <Darkside> sooo
[15:07] <NigeyS> phil
[15:07] <Darkside> how much light does the balloon have left?
[15:07] <NigeyS> global tuners, folkstone
[15:07] <Darkside> and can you get listeners in russia
[15:08] <NigeyS> can pick it up, i cant decode with it, my soundcard wont let me
[15:08] <Randomskk> haha still decoding 300baud =D
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[15:09] <Lunar_Lander> are the automatic settings on ALPHA good or do I need to change something in "modems" "RTTY"?
[15:09] <number10> you may need reverse
[15:09] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: automatic settings are fine, apart from adding in the Rv. payload switches between 300 baud and 50 baud
[15:09] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[15:10] <Lunar_Lander> I think I can hear it
[15:10] <Lunar_Lander> but it's too noisy for the computer
[15:10] <Lunar_Lander> also, the two traces I see are a bit closer together than the red lines
[15:11] <Lunar_Lander> on 350 Hz shift, they fit better
[15:11] <Darkside> so, are the guys on the chunnel yet?
[15:11] <Darkside> they should get their car on there ASAP
[15:11] <Darkside> :P
[15:11] <LazyLeopard> Yeah, the shift is narrower...
[15:11] <Darkside> go on a chase across europe!
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[15:11] <daveake> I want to do that sometime
[15:11] <fsphil-laptop> one character out!!!
[15:12] <NigeyS> have a P
[15:12] <daveake> That's annoying :)
[15:12] <fsphil-laptop> fading again now
[15:12] <rocketguy> what GPS board you using? a custom?
[15:12] <Darkside> lassen IQ
[15:12] <earthshine> Why is the tracker no longer showing the burst point?
[15:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> is there a difference between a surge resistor and a normal one ?
[15:13] <rocketguy> ty Darkside
[15:13] <Darkside> earthshine: because its not goign to burst at 40km, is it
[15:13] <Lunar_Lander> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/dlfldigi.png/
[15:13] <earthshine> Darkside: true
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[15:13] <Darkside> earthshine: now it will show what happens if it bursts right now
[15:13] <earthshine> Lunar_Lander: that trace is slightly noisy but it should work
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[15:14] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:14] <NigeyS> kev did u hit the autoconfigure button ?
[15:14] <daveake> Lunar_Lander Suggest you switch to 50, at least till that's working
[15:14] <daveake> The payload swaps between 50 and 300
[15:14] <earthshine> Lunar_Lander: Yeah don't bother with 300
[15:14] <Darkside> hmm anyone know what point the vreg will drop out?
[15:15] <Lunar_Lander> OK, take 50?
[15:15] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS : yes
[15:16] <benchoff> Is it just me or is this thing tracking north of the predictions from a few hours ago?
[15:16] <Lunar_Lander> YAY
[15:16] <Lunar_Lander> It just wrote "15:15:36"
[15:16] <daveake> :)
[15:17] <fsphil-laptop> considerably weaker here now
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[15:18] <Lunar_Lander> ITS THERE
[15:18] <fsphil-laptop> virtually gone on the waterfall
[15:18] <jonsowman> still decoding 300 baud here on the CUED roof
[15:18] <fsphil-laptop> boy, there's gone to be some range records set today :)
[15:19] <fsphil-laptop> going*
[15:19] <Darkside> hehe
[15:19] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah 300 is fine still from up here in sunny north land
[15:19] <Darkside> yeah i wish the guy in the blue mountains decoded horus...
[15:19] <Lunar_Lander> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/alphareception1.png/
[15:19] <Darkside> since that was a 850km path
[15:19] <earthshine> Going to pop out to get my hair cut so hopefully it will keep floating till I get back
[15:19] <fsphil-laptop> I have to change the tire on my car, bbl
[15:20] <Lunar_Lander> YES!!!!!!!!!!
[15:21] <Lunar_Lander> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/alphareception2.png/
[15:22] <danielsaul> Hello
[15:22] <Randomskk> hi
[15:22] <danielsaul> FOund the minibus at last :)
[15:22] <jonsowman> cool
[15:22] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: is that uploading?
[15:22] <Lunar_Lander> It is set to online
[15:23] <Darkside> ok
[15:23] <Lunar_Lander> I don't know if that is enough
[15:24] <Lunar_Lander> does it need to have access through the firewall?
[15:25] <Darkside> its only outgoing
[15:25] <Darkside> and its HTTP
[15:25] <Darkside> so it shouldnt need anything
[15:25] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[15:25] <Darkside> i'm just noticing you're not seeing thebit up top that shows you if the sentence passes checksum
[15:25] <Darkside> i think you need to autoconfigure to set that up
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[15:26] <Darkside> i'd try autoconfiguring, then changing the other RTTY settings
[15:26] <benchoff> anyone keeping a record of the ground speed?
[15:27] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[15:29] <Darkside> so yeah
[15:29] <Darkside> you UK guys are now learning about the hwoyee motto
[15:29] <Darkside> Chinese rubber: lasts longer than you do.
[15:29] <Lunar_Lander> lol
[15:29] <NigeyS> lol
[15:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[15:29] <Darkside> we found that out the hard way
[15:30] <Darkside> also, i think anyone doing an altitude attempt needs to be warned off the hwoyee 2000g balloons
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[15:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> or put more gas in
[15:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> they are rated for 38k burst @ 5.5m/s
[15:31] <Darkside> heh
[15:31] <Darkside> that last 2km is very hard to do though
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[15:31] <Upu_2E0UPU> we should speak to Hwoyee :)
[15:31] <Darkside> heh
[15:31] <rocketguy> someone just needs a pin
[15:31] <Darkside> get them to make a BIG balloon
[15:32] <Darkside> or we just start using ZPs :P
[15:32] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[15:34] <Lunar_Lander> hi Dan-K2VOL
[15:34] <Lunar_Lander> I can hear that balloon
[15:34] <Lunar_Lander> but the computer is struggling
[15:34] <danielsaul> benoxley: Your inverter isnt destroyed, melted slightly, but still working
[15:34] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: not uploading tho
[15:35] <Dan-K2VOL> hi kev
[15:35] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:35] <Lunar_Lander> Darkside : I meant that I for myself can hear the tones from the loudspeaker
[15:35] <benoxley> about to hit land...
[15:35] <Upu_2E0UPU> Q did you put a parachute on it ?
[15:35] <jonsowman> no
[15:35] <jonsowman> ...
[15:35] <danielsaul> No parachute :S
[15:35] <NigeyS> ouch
[15:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> Q Did you put your name on it ?
[15:36] <benoxley> danielsaul: you owe me one new inverter
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[15:36] <Lunar_Lander> SENTENCE UPLOADED!
[15:36] Action: Upu_2E0UPU pats Lunar_Lander
[15:36] <jonsowman> Upu_2E0UPU: yes
[15:36] <NigeyS> haha
[15:36] <costyn> Upu_2E0UPU: yea there's some info in "Dutch" on there :)
[15:36] <danielsaul> benoxley: Nothing wrong wth it :P stillworks
[15:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> "doh"
[15:36] <oop> hey, what's the ground speed of alpha?
[15:36] <Lunar_Lander> xD thanks
[15:36] <danielsaul> ducth, french and german info on it:P
[15:36] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[15:36] <Lunar_Lander> but the bad thing is
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> my shitty camcorder has an empty battery!
[15:37] <Matt_soton> danielsaul: how long did u intend to sit there for?
[15:37] <Matt_soton> could be floating for ages
[15:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok we got any Russian HAMS ? :)
[15:37] <Darkside> goddamnit i cant use gobaltuners
[15:38] <Darkside> globaltuners
[15:38] <oop> shouldnt it burst already?
[15:38] <Darkside> because my account has to be approced
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> maybe we can ask natrium
[15:38] <rocketguy> O
[15:38] <Darkside> and my old account never got approved
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> if he knows some
[15:38] <rocketguy> I'm wondering where the chase car is ;p
[15:38] <NigeyS> Darkside, use mine ?
[15:38] <danielsaul> Matt_soton: We're going now
[15:38] <Darkside> NigeyS: upu just offered
[15:38] <Darkside> lol
[15:38] <NigeyS> haha ok
[15:38] <NigeyS> i was getting it earlier on the folkstone xmitter
[15:39] <benchoff> looks like they're getting their payload back...
[15:39] <Lunar_Lander> Darkside : as I said maybe natrium knows some
[15:39] <Darkside> oh lol my globaltuners account just got approved
[15:39] <Darkside> >_>
[15:39] <Lunar_Lander> YAY
[15:39] <NigeyS> heh
[15:39] <NigeyS> jonsowman, u better jump on the channel tunnel express m8 :p
[15:40] <number10> Lunar _Lander - looks like you are decoding and uploading
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[15:40] <Lunar_Lander> yes number10
[15:40] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[15:40] <jonsowman> NigeyS: nah, cba
[15:40] <jonsowman> :P
[15:41] <benchoff> Lunar: what time is sundown over there?
[15:41] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[15:41] <Lunar_Lander> in 40 minutes
[15:41] <Hiena> ' evening!
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> in Amsterdam it is in 50 minutes
[15:42] <Darkside> current dial freq?
[15:42] <Lunar_Lander> the display says 4.650.7
[15:43] <Darkside> yes
[15:43] <Darkside> i hear it on globaltuner
[15:43] <Darkside> ok hold
[15:43] <Darkside> this is going to look hillarious on teh tracker
[15:43] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[15:43] <NigeyS> lol, which 1 you on ?
[15:44] <Upu_2E0UPU> getting noticably weaker here
[15:45] <Darkside> decoding perfectly
[15:45] <Darkside> Dokkum
[15:45] <Darkside> god dan 50 baud is slow
[15:45] <Darkside> damn*
[15:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> question : the distance in dl-fldigi
[15:45] <Randomskk> then decode the 300 baud :P
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[15:45] <Lunar_Lander> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/231/alphadata.png/
[15:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> why is it saying 585410.7 ?
[15:45] <Darkside> YESSSS
[15:45] <Darkside> I AM ON THE MAP
[15:45] <Darkside> :D
[15:45] <Darkside> hahahahaha
[15:45] <Darkside> longest path ever
[15:45] <number10> lol
[15:45] <number10> cheat
[15:46] <Darkside> no wait
[15:46] <Lunar_Lander> where?
[15:46] <Darkside> nbo wait im not
[15:46] <Darkside> nvbm
[15:46] <Darkside> nvm :P
[15:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[15:47] <number10> you have to put the location of the tuner that you are accessing
[15:47] <Darkside> :P
[15:47] <Darkside> yeah yeah
[15:47] <Darkside> i have no location atm
[15:47] <Darkside> so its ok
[15:47] <Darkside> :P
[15:47] <Darkside> i'm just 'appearing' on the map
[15:48] <griffonbot> @cuspaceflight: Down to 5 degrees elevation #apexhab #cusf http://t.co/PIXPvlYx [http://twitter.com/cuspaceflight/status/127773201018269696]
[15:48] <Darkside> well, on the listeners list
[15:48] <Darkside> not on the map
[15:48] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[15:50] <Darkside> its transmitting doubles
[15:50] <Randomskk> yes
[15:50] <Darkside> i.e. sending the 50 baud data twice
[15:50] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah
[15:50] <number10> your going crazy darkside
[15:50] <Upu_2E0UPU> where are you anyway I'm where are you recieving from ?
[15:50] <costyn> gonna pass over where TimZaman's last landing spot
[15:51] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[15:51] <Darkside> Upu_2E0UPU: the globaltuner i'm using is almost directly below the balloon at the moment
[15:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> wheres Dutch-Mill when you need him
[15:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> oh nice
[15:51] <Darkside> well, north-east
[15:51] <Darkside> but close
[15:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> why's it not on the map ?
[15:51] <Darkside> because i havent put the coords in
[15:51] <Upu_2E0UPU> ah ok
[15:52] <benoxley> Darkside: where is the listening station?
[15:52] <Darkside> i've added the coords now
[15:53] <Darkside> should update on the map whenever that happens
[15:53] <Upu_2E0UPU> Might be a distance record for the taking ?
[15:53] <Darkside> i have 15dB SNR btw
[15:53] <Lunar_Lander> OK people I'll have to pay ALDI a visit
[15:53] <NigeyS> it might make it through the night
[15:53] <Lunar_Lander> I think the system can run automatically?
[15:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> 480km at the moment from me
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[15:54] <Hiena> Ohhhh, i see pretty colors...
[15:55] <priyesh> hey all
[15:55] <Darkside> hey priyesh
[15:55] <Darkside> do you know at what voltage the vreg will drop out?
[15:56] <eroomde> Upu_2E0UPU: got a yagi for the record?
[15:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> I have
[15:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> but
[15:56] <priyesh> Darkside: i'll look it up
[15:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> whether I can be bothered driving up to the local hill is another matter :)
[15:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> besides
[15:56] <Darkside> priyesh: also grats on the float - you might be joining the 24-hour float club!
[15:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> netbook is at work so I'm stuck here
[15:56] <priyesh> Darkside: thanks :D
[15:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> dumb should have brought it home
[15:57] <priyesh> Darkside: it's a linear L51763cs8
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[15:57] <priyesh> i can't look it up from heere
[15:57] <danielsaul> Why does priyesh get all the compliments :( lol
[15:57] <danielsaul> Internert is so slow here...
[15:57] <Darkside> priyesh: a what?
[15:57] <jonsowman> he's prettier than you Darkside
[15:57] <jonsowman> oops
[15:58] <jonsowman> danielsaul
[15:58] <priyesh> :P
[15:58] <benoxley> danielsaul: why does you're balloon float?
[15:58] <danielsaul> lol
[15:58] <jonsowman> benoxley: s/you're/your/
[15:58] <Darkside> ok its claiming 300mV dropout
[15:58] <priyesh> danielsaul: how fast is thing going to plummet down>
[15:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> 486km vs Rob_M0DTS @ 470km
[15:58] <danielsaul> fast
[15:58] <Darkside> priyesh: 10m/s
[15:58] <benoxley> jonsowman: shush
[15:58] <jonsowman> lol
[15:58] <Darkside> well, 10m/s when it gets into thick air
[15:58] <Darkside> it'll do 60m/s at first
[15:59] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... A mere 410kms from here...
[15:59] <rocketguy> the new globaltuner is located at 0,0? guess no updates yet
[15:59] <jackalek> quick quwstion, why is it stuck at 26k ?
[16:00] <priyesh> 36K
[16:00] <oop> any estimates how long does it go? now that it doesn't go up :)
[16:00] <Darkside> oop a long way
[16:00] <jackalek> 36 sorry
[16:00] <daveake> till the sun comes up in the morning :)
[16:00] <eroomde> oop: might survive overnight
[16:00] <Upu_2E0UPU> no idea oop :)
[16:00] <Darkside> we did a launch with a hwoyee 2000g a few weeks ago
[16:00] <jackalek> if it goes bang right now you got chance to retrieve it
[16:00] <Darkside> actually almost a month ago now
[16:00] <eroomde> Dan-K2VOL: are you watching?
[16:00] <jackalek> its over land right now
[16:00] <LazyLeopard> jackalek: These balloons do seem to sit a while before they burst...
[16:00] <danielsaul> Yagi on moving minibus doesnt work :(
[16:00] <jonsowman> had to swap to 50 baud here
[16:00] <NigeyS> the russians might shoot it down for you ;)
[16:00] <eroomde> transatlantic class distances with a latex balloon
[16:00] <daveake> lol
[16:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> its fair shifting
[16:01] <Darkside> eroomde: hehehe, well we did 1400km on ours
[16:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> 496km now
[16:01] <oop> eroomde: how long does the gps+atmega+tx work before voltage drops too low?
[16:01] <eroomde> not sure - not my payload
[16:01] <daveake> It's a Lassen, right?
[16:01] <Darkside> yes
[16:01] <NigeyS> yip
[16:01] <danielsaul> yeh
[16:01] <Hiena> danielsaul: flat panel, lot of flat panel. I lost lot of precius data due the overhyped Yagis...
[16:01] <Darkside> the vreg datasheet claims it will dropout around 3.7
[16:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> 200km/hour ?
[16:01] <daveake> I tested mine. Stopped at a battery voltage of 3.08V
[16:02] <Upu_2E0UPU> really did I calc that correctly ?
[16:02] <daveake> That's with a low drop out reg, 0.3V dropout
[16:02] <Lunar_Lander> great circle distance to me is about 210 km
[16:02] <jackalek> have you got any tracking station further east ?
[16:02] <Darkside> jackalek: i'm going to hop between globaltuners
[16:02] <Darkside> aha my globaltuner position is showing up now guys
[16:02] <rocketguy> there is a storm passing from the west at northern ireland and scotland.. might just kill the signal locating
[16:03] <jonsowman> down to 4.0 degrees elevation
[16:03] <Upu_2E0UPU> signal still strong @ 500km on a co-linear
[16:03] <jackalek> I wish we had a NOAA satelite live feed from over Europe...
[16:03] <rocketguy> google earth and a WMS weather feed
[16:04] <rocketguy> ill upload in a sec
[16:06] <Darkside> ok guys i've gotta walk home now
[16:06] <jackalek> do you know a good weather feed for europe ?
[16:06] <Darkside> when i get there i'll get my laptop setup decoding again
[16:06] <Darkside> i'll sttay on this globaltuner for as long as possible
[16:06] <jonsowman> ta Darkside
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[16:06] <Lunar_Lander> brb people!
[16:06] <Darkside> the problem will be when it burst, i may be asleep and not able to re-tune!
[16:07] <rocketguy> um let me poke around, at this point I'm using google earth and just opened the kml in google earth and turned on Weather + radar
[16:07] <rocketguy> right now: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/screenshotzq.png/
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[16:07] <priyesh> jonsowman: we're downstairs
[16:07] <priyesh> waiting :)
[16:08] <jonsowman> they're packing up
[16:08] <Lunar_Lander> priyesh , jonsowman I go to ALDI now
[16:09] <Lunar_Lander> but the system here continues
[16:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> 300 baud still ok @ 518km
[16:09] <number10> whats wrong with Lidl Lunar_Lander
[16:09] <danielsaul> Why's an inverter called and inverter...? Random question
[16:09] <jackalek> rocketguy: give me a sec will try
[16:09] <Randomskk> danielsaul: it inverts the dc into ac
[16:10] <priyesh> Upu_2E0UPU: wow :)
[16:10] <danielsaul> Thats what I thought... Mr C wanted to know
[16:10] <Randomskk> the dc has to go negative, so yea
[16:10] <rocketguy> jackalek: kks, I'm a GIS guy so let me know if you need a hand
[16:10] <Upu_2E0UPU> 10km more and i'm claiming the 300 baud record.. :)
[16:11] <Randomskk> oooh nice
[16:11] <Randomskk> what is your setup?
[16:11] <Lunar_Lander> xD number10 no LIDL nearby
[16:11] <danielsaul> benoxley: Mr C says, putting your inverter on ebay - hope you win it
[16:11] <Lunar_Lander> brb
[16:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> Watson colinear
[16:11] <Upu_2E0UPU> and a hill :)
[16:11] <Randomskk> nice
[16:11] <priyesh> who would buy a melted inverter?
[16:11] <G4TNX> Upu_2E0UPU What you using to calculate your distance?
[16:11] <danielsaul> priyesh: No idea
[16:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html
[16:12] <Randomskk> our pointed yagi is not doing all that great :|
[16:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> 52.96145,5.99751 -> 53.752496,-1.817875
[16:12] <Randomskk> need more yagis I think
[16:12] <Randomskk> maybe four in a nice big phased array
[16:12] <jonsowman> 4 at least
[16:12] <jackalek> rocketguy: it works, i didn't know its bulit in google earth :)
[16:12] <Randomskk> at least
[16:12] <rocketguy> yup :) cheers
[16:12] <danielsaul> Our minibus mounted yagi is failing miserabley... need a straight south motoray to drive on
[16:12] <jonsowman> danielsaul: like the M11
[16:12] <Upu_2E0UPU> I mean feel free to check me on the distance
[16:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> but still decoding fine
[16:13] <eroomde> Randomskk: maybe drive to cromer cliffs?
[16:13] <Upu_2E0UPU> Rob_M0DTS isn't far behind me
[16:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> boom 300 baud record claimed for Yorkshire :)
[16:14] <jonsowman> well done Upu_2E0UPU
[16:14] <Randomskk> eroomde: hehe bit of a drive
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[16:14] <priyesh> Upu_2E0UPU: well done
[16:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> right 50 baud record next :)
[16:14] <G4TNX> 415K for Lincolnshire, catching up..
[16:16] <Randomskk> eroomde: got the trackotron working nicely at least
[16:16] <Randomskk> it turns out if you plug radiofox into one of the thing's two serial ports it thinks it is a serial mouse always telling it to go right
[16:16] <Randomskk> helpfully they are unlabelled and the user guide does not distinguish them
[16:16] <Randomskk> got it all working in the end though
[16:19] Nick change: johnnyfive_ -> johnnyfive
[16:19] <eroomde> it's now flying over where i used to work
[16:19] <costyn> woa... that's uncanny, it passed within 25 meters of TimZaman's Space Cam Live 1 landing spot
[16:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> Rob_M0DTS you still getting 300 baud ?
[16:20] <eroomde> Randomskk: yes it's a bit special
[16:20] <Randomskk> eroomde: we want to at least phase these two identical yagis
[16:20] <eroomde> i was going to try and make a az/el with a 100% sparkfun shopping list
[16:20] <Randomskk> though clearly 4 would be superior. maybe 8.
[16:20] <rocketguy> btw, here's a weather server for europe: http://openmetoc.met.no/about.html
[16:20] <Randomskk> hah nice
[16:21] <Randomskk> those new steppers and controllers?
[16:21] <eroomde> yeah
[16:21] <eroomde> and an arduino
[16:21] <Randomskk> it might even weigh less than this one
[16:21] <Randomskk> which frankly weighs more than I do or something
[16:21] <eroomde> and then not sure about the mechanics
[16:21] <eroomde> yes our one could ship a radio telescope
[16:21] <Randomskk> always the annoying part
[16:21] <eroomde> shift*
[16:21] <Randomskk> it could shift the Very Large Array tbh
[16:21] <Randomskk> all of it
[16:22] <Randomskk> we were considering mounting CUED on the rotator to avoid having to carry it up the stairs
[16:22] <Randomskk> then just stick the yagi onto some railing
[16:22] <eroomde> Lunar is going to be our hero
[16:22] <eroomde> Randomskk: probably not a bad idea
[16:22] <eroomde> only thing is you need planning permission to install it up there permenantly
[16:22] <eroomde> we investigated this for precisely that reason
[16:22] <eroomde> terry symonds sharply intaking breath
[16:23] <Randomskk> you might not have parsed that sentence right
[16:23] <Randomskk> I wanted to mount the building on the rotator
[16:23] <Randomskk> but yes, just fixing the rotator up there permenantly would be a big step up
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[16:23] <eroomde> oh i see
[16:24] <eroomde> i went for a maximum likelihood parse
[16:24] <Upu_2E0UPU> wow 300 baud decode @ 559.3 km
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[16:24] <Randomskk> might be one of the pathological cases mackay mentions in his book
[16:24] <priyesh> jonsowman: are you still decoding?
[16:24] <Randomskk> priyesh: we are
[16:24] <Randomskk> though 50baud
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[16:24] <benapex> danielsaul: have you got my inverter in the minibus
[16:25] <Darkside> ok i'm tracking again
[16:25] <number10> yes we see
[16:26] <number10> would you still have tracked if there was a danger of ALPHA breaking your record ;)
[16:26] <fsphil-laptop> I is back -- stupid flat tire :)
[16:26] <Darkside> number10: sure why not :P
[16:26] <number10> lol.
[16:27] <Darkside> now i'm interested to see if it breaks my duration record :P
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[16:29] <Darkside> ok so the station i'm listening on is a diamond x5000 connected to a Icom IC-R7000
[16:29] <Darkside> so it should be able to track for a good distance
[16:30] <jonsowman> trakotron down to 2.0 degrees elevation
[16:30] <fsphil-laptop> global tuners
[16:30] <fsphil-laptop> ?
[16:31] <Darkside> yes fsphil-laptop
[16:32] <fsphil-laptop> well my distance record is now broken :D
[16:32] <oop> what is the transmit power of alpha? amazing receiving guys :)
[16:32] <priyesh> 10mW
[16:33] <oop> woah
[16:33] <fsphil-laptop> yea :)
[16:33] <fsphil-laptop> almost 600km range
[16:33] <danielsaul> back
[16:33] <danielsaul> benapex: yeh
[16:34] <danielsaul> priyesh: Where abouts are you?
[16:34] <fsphil-laptop> Lunar_Lander, receiving anything?
[16:34] <fsphil-laptop> lol, this could float all night
[16:34] <oop> someone ping me if it gets to finland ;)
[16:34] <Upu_2E0UPU> I'm about to get 600km
[16:35] <jonsowman> :D
[16:35] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Just over 500kms from here now.
[16:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> Rob_M0DTS may take it though as I suspect his kit is better than mine and I'm going to run out of horizon soon!
[16:37] <Darkside> woah signal is fading
[16:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> finehere
[16:37] <jonsowman> 473km range here
[16:37] <Darkside> must be in a null of the antenna
[16:38] <fsphil-laptop> I need a bigger yagi ... and preamp :)
[16:38] <fsphil-laptop> and another floater :)
[16:38] <priyesh> danielsaul: just entered essex
[16:38] <priyesh> danielsaul: you?
[16:38] <danielsaul> Ok
[16:38] <Darkside> well this is great, i'm tracking a balloon from bed
[16:38] <priyesh> m11 68.2
[16:39] <danielsaul> Halfway down the M11
[16:39] <danielsaul> apparently
[16:39] <priyesh> motorway marker
[16:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> 600.7 km @ 300 baud
[16:39] <benchoff> Is anyone further east than Lunar? Anyone in germany going to turn on their radios?
[16:39] <fsphil-laptop> heading for berlin
[16:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> really need to go walk the dog now
[16:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> bbs
[16:39] <LazyLeopard> Upu_2E0UPU: Cool. ;)
[16:39] <priyesh> danielsaul: which marker are you on?
[16:40] <danielsaul> priyesh: hang on, ill look out the window :P
[16:40] <priyesh> we're 66.2
[16:40] <oop> you should track your cars too :D
[16:40] <priyesh> oop: we have a lack of car gpss
[16:40] <priyesh> *gpses
[16:40] <danielsaul> Need to link google latitude :P
[16:41] <priyesh> danielsaul: motorway marker
[16:41] <danielsaul> priyesh: 33.0, if Im reading the right thing :P
[16:41] <fsphil-laptop> so this is the most distance UK launch so far yea?
[16:41] <Randomskk> yay we're back at 300 baud
[16:41] <oop> priyesh: in finnish there's saying "shoemakers kids don't have shoes" :)
[16:42] <oop> hey btw is there any fast/simple http-api for getting the location?
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[16:42] <jonsowman> 488km at 300 baud
[16:43] <priyesh> http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/_design/habitat/_view/payload_telemetry?startkey=[%22ALPHA%22,%22latest%22]&descending=true&limit=1&include_docs=true
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[16:43] <benapex> Jon: you changed back to 300?
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[16:43] <Randomskk> benapex: we did
[16:43] <Randomskk> it's working nicely
[16:43] <Randomskk> oop: see priyesh's link
[16:43] <danielsaul> What the vreg cutout again? priyesh?
[16:44] <benapex> did you change anything randomskk?
[16:44] <earthshine> Still going ?!!
[16:44] <earthshine> Holy cow
[16:44] <Randomskk> benapex: nope
[16:44] <earthshine> This must be a record right?
[16:44] <fsphil-laptop> it's gone beyond holy cow now, it's a holy zebra
[16:44] <rocketguy> like ^^
[16:44] <fsphil-laptop> I think Darkside has floated futher
[16:44] <fsphil-laptop> but only for the moment
[16:44] <priyesh> danielsaul: we don't know at altitude
[16:45] <priyesh> but maybe 3.1?
[16:45] <danielsaul> priyesh: ok
[16:45] <priyesh> lots left
[16:45] <priyesh> fingers crossed
[16:45] <priyesh> 3.8
[16:46] <priyesh> actually i have no idea
[16:46] <benchoff> what was the voltage at launch?
[16:46] <priyesh> we'll have to see
[16:46] <G4TNX> yay, just got 500Km at 300baud, never expected that..
[16:46] <danielsaul> priyesh: Tom ladyman: "are you not freaking out about getting sued mercilessly by the russians?"
[16:47] <danielsaul> lol
[16:47] <Darkside> benchoff: 4.45v at launch
[16:47] <Darkside> or thereabouts
[16:47] <priyesh> danielsaul: not realy
[16:47] <priyesh> *really
[16:47] <priyesh> benchoff: yeah 4.5ish
[16:47] <priyesh> can't quite remember
[16:47] <priyesh> danielsaul: where are you
[16:48] <benchoff> still a way to go until it cuts out...
[16:48] <danielsaul> priyesh: On the M11...
[16:48] <rocketguy> this is bordering on the retarded... haha
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[16:49] <LazyLeopard> It must be getting close to sunset now?
[16:49] <fsphil-laptop> Lunar_Lander, this could land in your back garden :)
[16:49] <danielsaul> Does the stratosphere get colder at night?
[16:50] <Darkside> yeah
[16:50] <Darkside> we saw our payload drop to -25 overnight
[16:50] <x-f> internal temperature is dropping already
[16:50] <Darkside> jeez its drifting
[16:50] <rocketguy> I hope you guys don't need the stations in the US
[16:50] <jonsowman> 510km at 300 baud
[16:50] <danielsaul> M25 rather
[16:50] <danielsaul> oops
[16:50] <Darkside> it must have gone past the terminator
[16:50] <fsphil-laptop> madness
[16:50] <earthshine> They will if it keeps heading East
[16:51] <rocketguy> How will the batteries handle the low temps?
[16:52] <Lunar_Lander> back
[16:52] <Lunar_Lander> xD fsphil-laptop
[16:52] <Darkside> just had to re-tune the globaltuners radio...
[16:53] <Lunar_Lander> There it is again!
[16:53] <earthshine> Darkside: I didn't know you were in the Netherlands
[16:53] <Lunar_Lander> 4.649.7
[16:53] <Darkside> earthshine: i'm not :P
[16:53] <fsphil-laptop> are you able to decode anything Lunar_Lander ?
[16:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah, now that I retuned
[16:53] <fsphil-laptop> it's very near to you now
[16:53] <Darkside> just if i have my location listed in australia the map will look weird
[16:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:54] <Lunar_Lander> s/n is 4 to 6 dB
[16:54] <fsphil-laptop> yay, got a string
[16:54] <junderwood> Darkside, I think you may have the distance record. 10,000 km
[16:54] <earthshine> Lunar_Lander: Get your catapult out and try and shoot it down
[16:54] <Darkside> junderwood: lol
[16:54] <fsphil-laptop> haha
[16:54] <priyesh> earthshine: no
[16:54] <priyesh> earthshine: don't shoot it down!
[16:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> I'm still almost getting 300 baud...
[16:54] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL
[16:54] <earthshine> He he
[16:54] <Upu_2E0UPU> $$ALPHA,704,16:%4:27,5251.2159,00744.5250,76279,10,-27.31,-21.50,4.05*0F26
[16:54] <oop> http://on.tuu.fi/tesmaus/alpha.php
[16:55] <Rob_M0DTS> ~580km with 300baud!
[16:55] <junderwood> should be quite visible after ground sunset
[16:55] <junderwood> Rob_M0DTS, ... and a 200 element yagi
[16:55] <oop> used 52.214,0.1 for launch
[16:55] <Rob_M0DTS> haha true
[16:55] <G4TNX> Not pointing yur dish at are you Rob?
[16:55] <Darkside> also how the hell did you get on hackaday priyesh :P
[16:56] <Rob_M0DTS> no, the yagi has more gain than the 3m dish i think on 70cm!
[16:56] <benchoff> because of me....
[16:56] <earthshine> For previous float attempts what has finally brought the balloon down?
[16:56] <Darkside> i submitted my launch twice and didn't get on, and i set the record you were trying to break!
[16:56] <benapex> holy hell, Germany
[16:56] <Upu_2E0UPU> dum dee dum 645.0 km 300 baud decode
[16:56] <Lunar_Lander> yeag
[16:56] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:56] <Lunar_Lander> I got a question
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[16:56] <Lunar_Lander> the signal is loud now, two yellow lines on the waterfall and the rest is blue
[16:56] <priyesh> jonsowman: get on the hf band and talk to some germans!
[16:56] <Lunar_Lander> but the lines are a little skewed
[16:56] <benchoff> Darkside: when did you submit your launch to hackaday?
[16:56] <Lunar_Lander> why?
[16:56] <junderwood> 600 km. 50 baud, discone
[16:56] <Darkside> benchoff: ages back
[16:57] <Rob_M0DTS> Upu, good dx that!
[16:57] <earthshine> It is probably spinning
[16:57] <oop> how long has it been in air now? in hour/seconds?
[16:57] <Darkside> this was september i think
[16:57] <Darkside> no wait, august
[16:57] <Upu_2E0UPU> you still getting 300 Rob ?
[16:57] <griffonbot> @cuspaceflight: Still decoding Apex Alpha, 525km at 300 baud #cusf #apexhab [http://twitter.com/cuspaceflight/status/127790631727800320]
[16:57] <Lunar_Lander> I'm running 50
[16:57] <priyesh> Darkside: we're good at publicity
[16:57] <priyesh> :P
[16:57] <Darkside> heh
[16:57] <Lunar_Lander> with 350 Hz shift
[16:57] <Rob_M0DTS> yes 300baud here
[16:57] <G4TNX> 645km !! outstanding
[16:57] <benchoff> Darkside: send it in again, I'll give you a link.
[16:57] <Darkside> i got on the register, but not on hackaday :P
[16:57] <Darkside> benchoff: nah it doesnt matter now...
[16:57] <Darkside> way too old
[16:57] <earthshine> 645km at 10mW - great
[16:57] <jonsowman> Upu_2E0UPU: that's incredible
[16:58] <benchoff> Darkside: well do it anyway
[16:58] <Upu_2E0UPU> I'm not making it up :)
[16:58] <Darkside> benchoff: one of my recent project got on, the altorithmic music on AVR stuff
[16:58] <Darkside> algorithmic*
[16:58] <danielsaul> Darkside: We wrote up a press release and sent it around to various websites :P We have the added advantage that we are a school doing it
[16:58] <Darkside> yeah
[16:58] <fsphil-laptop> I did live images from a balloon, and Tim got on HAD when he used it ;)
[16:58] <benchoff> the attempt at a record helped.
[16:58] <earthshine> If it goes out of range of Lunar_Lander you're screwed
[16:58] <Darkside> yeah
[16:59] <earthshine> Should try and contact some HAMs in East Germany
[16:59] <Darkside> benchoff: i got the bloody record :P
[16:59] <Darkside> possibly the highest latex balloon flight ever
[16:59] <benchoff> SO FAR
[16:59] <earthshine> or even Poland
[16:59] <Randomskk> oh nooo
[16:59] <benchoff> not on distance though
[16:59] <Darkside> horus 16 is possibly the longest latex flight ever...
[16:59] <Randomskk> down to 1 deg el on the rotator
[16:59] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: RT @cuspaceflight: Still decoding Apex Alpha, 525km at 300 baud #cusf #apexhab [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/127791210353008640]
[16:59] <Darkside> though this flight might beat it...
[16:59] <Upu_2E0UPU> think the horizon is goinng to get me
[16:59] <earthshine> Going to go over your radio horizon soon Randomskk
[16:59] <fsphil-laptop> coming to get ya
[17:00] <benchoff> Darkside: send in your altitude project.
[17:00] <benchoff> srsly
[17:00] <Darkside> fffffuuuuuuu
[17:00] <fsphil-laptop> it's 20km away now Upu_2E0UPU :)
[17:00] <priyesh> who's got 300 baud record?
[17:00] <priyesh> and what km are you at?
[17:00] <Darkside> now i need to find the email again
[17:00] <Darkside> hold on
[17:00] <fsphil-laptop> priyesh, Upu_2E0UPU for the moment
[17:00] <Upu_2E0UPU> 645km
[17:00] <fsphil-laptop> though I suspect Rob_M0DTS may beat it soon :)
[17:00] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah
[17:00] <benchoff> Darkside: I just searched for it. Nothing.
[17:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> ok 300 isn't decoding now
[17:01] <priyesh> what's the final number?
[17:01] <Darkside> benchoff: August 21st
[17:01] <LazyLeopard> What about 50?
[17:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> 50 still fine
[17:01] <Upu_2E0UPU> 659.2 km
[17:02] <Rob_M0DTS> i have hills nearby so my horizon is much higher than upu in this direction.
[17:02] <fsphil-laptop> almost a full 100km over my 50 baud range
[17:02] <oop> 538km from launch, am i correct? or my script ;)
[17:02] <earthshine> Lunar_Lander: are you still picking it up ?
[17:02] <jonsowman> oop: correct
[17:02] <Darkside> benchoff: so i should just send the email into tips@hackaday?
[17:02] <benchoff> brianbenchoff@hackaday.com
[17:02] <Rob_M0DTS> need some more German stations to follow it....
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> earthshine : yeah
[17:02] <Lunar_Lander> it is almost north of me
[17:02] <junderwood> That's me done. Need the yagi if I want to go any further
[17:03] <benapex> get the yagi out junderwood
[17:03] <benapex> :D
[17:04] <Upu_2E0UPU> I'm on the horizon now
[17:04] <priyesh> we need to track
[17:04] <Rob_M0DTS> 300baud gone here now
[17:05] <G4TNX> only another 100km for me to catch up on 300baud
[17:05] <earthshine> I presume the payload has contact details written on it ?
[17:05] <Lunar_Lander> when I switch from WF to FFT, what is that?
[17:05] <benchoff> Darkside: send it on in. I'll put it up with this post
[17:05] <danielsaul> stilldavid: yeh
[17:05] <priyesh> earthshine: yes
[17:05] <Lunar_Lander> is FFT Fast-Fourier?
[17:05] <danielsaul> oops
[17:05] <Darkside> benchoff: just working on the email now
[17:05] <Darkside> benchoff: the blog post is here: http://rfhead.net/?p=366
[17:06] <Lunar_Lander> if I may ask=
[17:06] <jonsowman> Upu_2E0UPU: what was your max 300 baud range?
[17:06] <Upu_2E0UPU> 645km
[17:06] <jonsowman> wow
[17:06] <priyesh> jonsowman: 659.2
[17:06] <jonsowman> crazy
[17:07] <Upu_2E0UPU> 50 baud ...
[17:07] <jonsowman> we're at 550 at the moment
[17:07] <priyesh> oh
[17:07] <Upu_2E0UPU> 645 was @ 300
[17:07] <jonsowman> yeah
[17:07] <Upu_2E0UPU> 50 struggling to decode now
[17:07] <jonsowman> we're at 550km at 300 baud
[17:07] <priyesh> danielsaul: where are you
[17:08] <Lunar_Lander> had to tune down again
[17:08] <Upu_2E0UPU> yep retuned
[17:08] <rocketguy> about tripled the distance...
[17:08] <oop> now also flight time counter http://on.tuu.fi/tesmaus/alpha.php
[17:08] <danielsaul> priyesh: coming up to dartford
[17:08] <fsphil-laptop> temperature dropping?
[17:08] <Lunar_Lander> so, when it gets cold, the frequency drops?
[17:08] <priyesh> mile marker
[17:08] <Upu_2E0UPU> holy crapo
[17:08] <Upu_2E0UPU> just got 300 baud decode
[17:08] <jonsowman> what's that then?
[17:08] <Upu_2E0UPU> ALPHA,719,17:08:27,5249.7069,00816.3521,36254,09,-43.63,-27.19,4.00*A623
[17:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> 677.9 km
[17:09] <Rob_M0DTS> it must be close to darkness with balloon now then?
[17:09] <danielsaul> priyesh: Just going over daartford bridge thing
[17:09] <earthshine> G4TNX: is still doing pretty well too
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[17:09] <priyesh> ok
[17:09] <Darkside> benchoff: sent
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[17:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> I have to go make some food
[17:09] <Lunar_Lander> well
[17:09] <Upu_2E0UPU> bbs
[17:09] <Darkside> wow tthats drifting
[17:09] <rocketguy> so it's after sunset on this?
[17:09] <Lunar_Lander> 300 baud gives faulty strings
[17:10] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[17:10] <Rob_M0DTS> lost 50bd here now too... thanks to all, will keep watching to the end. A very interesting flight so far...
[17:10] <fsphil-laptop> we need an "if it keeps drifting like this" mode on the predictor
[17:10] <oop> btw: why is it in ascii? should it be just raw binary data?
[17:11] <oop> ->shorter data frame
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[17:11] <benchoff> Darkside: I'm getting a 404 on my end.
[17:11] <fsphil-laptop> easier for a human to read if they don't have a computer handy oop
[17:11] <Darkside> urrrr
[17:11] <fsphil-laptop> eg. for tracking on foot
[17:11] <Hiena> oop, some guys can decode the 50baud. ;)
[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> yeah, like me
[17:11] <Darkside> benchoff: http://rfhead.net/?p=366 that doesn't work?
[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> 300 baud gives faulty strings
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[17:12] <Darkside> its loading for me...
[17:12] <fsphil-laptop> 300 baud needs a good antenna
[17:12] <benchoff> Darkside: that one does, the arhab doesn't.
[17:12] <Darkside> ohh
[17:12] <benchoff> yeah...
[17:12] <Darkside> yeah the arhab link has changed, hold on
[17:12] <Darkside> they changed their site
[17:12] <benchoff> I'll find it.
[17:12] <Darkside> its full of javascript folery
[17:12] <Darkside> foolery*
[17:12] <Darkside> you can't link directly to the altitude records afaik
[17:13] <benchoff> I got it. it's cool.
[17:13] <fsphil-laptop> woo, habhound is less crashy now that I free memory properly ;)
[17:13] <Darkside> eek, gotta retune the globaltuners again!
[17:13] <priyesh> thanks to those tracking! :)
[17:14] <Upu_2E0UPU> its still almost decoding 300
[17:14] <Darkside> when this thing burst we're really gonna need to be quick on the ball
[17:14] <Lunar_Lander> signal is getting really weak
[17:15] <oop> average speed: 28.5m/s
[17:15] <fsphil-laptop> it will improve as it moves away Lunar_Lander
[17:15] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[17:15] <Lunar_Lander> how comes?
[17:15] <fsphil-laptop> just make sure you've a clear horizon to the north and east
[17:15] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[17:15] <fsphil-laptop> below the antenna is where the signal is the weakest
[17:15] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: what antenna are you using?
[17:15] <fsphil-laptop> you're quite close to it
[17:15] <Lunar_Lander> a normal whip
[17:16] <Darkside> its possibly in the null of your antenna
[17:16] <fsphil-laptop> also, you probably need to manually adjust the rtty shift
[17:16] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[17:16] <Lunar_Lander> well, I don't have any lines on the WF
[17:16] <Darkside> i was having troubles hearing it on the globaltuners site earlier, as the globaltuners site has a very very high gain omni, and hence has crap reception at high elevations
[17:16] <Darkside> but as it gets firther and firther away, the signal gets stronger
[17:16] <benchoff> I think they were trying for the wrong record....
[17:17] <fsphil-laptop> anyone know any german amateur guys?
[17:17] <Darkside> still, my SNR on it is only 2dB..
[17:17] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: IRLP
[17:17] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[17:17] <Lunar_Lander> well I know one but he lives nearby
[17:17] <oop> benchoff: just thought the same, it's totally different record :)
[17:17] <Lunar_Lander> and I think he hasn't got dlfldigi yet
[17:17] <fsphil-laptop> ideally we'd need someone near berlin :)
[17:17] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[17:17] <Lunar_Lander> the lines are back
[17:17] <Darkside> heh
[17:18] <Darkside> the arhab float records are mostly set by zero pressure balloons
[17:18] <priyesh> benchoff: it's either high or far... we can't easily choose
[17:18] <Darkside> which are *designed* to float
[17:18] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[17:18] <Lunar_Lander> I just turned the volume up
[17:18] <Darkside> derp
[17:18] <danielsaul> What is this globaltuners thing?
[17:18] <Darkside> danielsaul: remotely controllable radios available via the web
[17:19] <earthshine> Are there any more east of there?
[17:19] <danielsaul> Darkside: Do they work alright?
[17:19] <Darkside> yeah
[17:19] <benoxley_mobile> randomskk are you still getting packets?
[17:19] <Randomskk> yes
[17:19] <danielsaul> Because Im bord not being able to track :P
[17:19] <Randomskk> still 300baud
[17:19] <Randomskk> 584km
[17:19] <Darkside> none any further east though
[17:19] <danielsaul> :(
[17:19] <benoxley_mobile> el?
[17:19] <Randomskk> 1 deg :P
[17:19] <Rob_M0DTS> i've posted on the kst dx cluser the freq/website so maybe get some more EU trackers in on it.
[17:19] <benchoff> I put the call out for Berlin hams on HaD...
[17:19] <Randomskk> we added code to the tracker stuff so it spits out a distance
[17:19] <earthshine> There must be 70cm HAMs in Berlin
[17:19] <Darkside> http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/list.php?map=1
[17:19] <benchoff> doing what I can...
[17:19] <Darkside> theres the map
[17:20] <Upu_2E0UPU> 50 baud @ 706.3 km
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[17:21] <benoxley_mobile> wow...
[17:21] <eroomde> does #hamradio know about it?
[17:21] <Randomskk> Upu_2E0UPU: you set a tough record to beat :P
[17:21] <jonsowman> 300 baud at 590km here
[17:21] Action: fsphil-laptop passes Upu_2E0UPU the medal ;)
[17:21] <Darkside> someone who speaks some german get on the berlin IRLP node
[17:22] <benchoff> good god its getting cold in that thing
[17:23] <NigeyS> -48 .. nice and chilly
[17:23] <Darkside> jeez and i thought ours had bad insulation.. ours only got to -25...
[17:23] <rocketguy> and the battery is dropping fast
[17:23] <Darkside> -32 inside... eek
[17:23] <rocketguy> what battery chemistry is being used?
[17:24] <Dan-K2VOL> aw, at night you need a lot of insulation and thermal mass, or a heater
[17:24] <NigeyS> lithium
[17:24] <Darkside> lithium iron disulphide or something
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[17:24] <earthshine> Upu_2E0UPU: What is your altitude?
[17:24] <benchoff> shame they can't cut it down... about now would be the time to do it.
[17:24] <Darkside> the standard energizer lithium AAs
[17:24] <Dan-K2VOL> what's the current draw when transmitting?
[17:24] <Darkside> 90ma
[17:24] <Dan-K2VOL> and how many AAs are in parallel
[17:24] <oop> note to self: add battery warming :)
[17:24] <Darkside> 3 AAs in series
[17:24] <Darkside> i think
[17:24] <jonsowman> losing 300 baud here
[17:25] <fsphil-laptop> the energiser lithiums are pretty good at handling sub-zero temps
[17:25] <fsphil-laptop> though this is maybe pushing it :)
[17:25] <G4TNX> yay, just over the 600km on 300baud
[17:25] <danielsaul> Darkside: We thought we had good insulation... its totally sealed, no holes etc.
[17:25] <Dan-K2VOL> is that temp the battery pack or the circuit board?
[17:25] <NigeyS> eroomde, they dont talk much do they...lol
[17:25] <Randomskk> 300 baud! at 600km
[17:25] <Darkside> danielsaul: yeah sadly when its -48 outsie it doesn't helo much :P
[17:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> 280m alt here
[17:25] <Darkside> help*
[17:25] <priyesh> Darkside: the circuit board
[17:25] <Upu_2E0UPU> can still hear it
[17:25] <danielsaul> Yeh :(
[17:25] <eroomde> NigeyS: yeah a bit quiet!
[17:25] <Darkside> danielsaul: also you aren't generating enough heat inside the payload to warm it up
[17:25] <Dan-K2VOL> ah, in the future the useful temp is the battery pack
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[17:26] <Darkside> at that battery voltage the LDO isnt dissipating much heat
[17:26] <Darkside> it'd only be the NTX2 thate generating much heat, and even thate not enough at this point
[17:26] <Dan-K2VOL> http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/lithiuml91l92_appman.pdf
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[17:26] <Darkside> ahh that would be why horus 16 only got to -25... we had 4x AAs
[17:26] <priyesh> Darkside: the battery pack is right next to it
[17:26] <Darkside> so it had to dissipate more heat to drop it down
[17:26] <Upu_2E0UPU> I lol @ ur horizon
[17:27] <jonsowman> haha Upu_2E0UPU
[17:27] <rocketguy> soo, -40C according to the specsheet
[17:27] <rocketguy> hmm
[17:27] <fsphil-laptop> it's that duct tape in the sky again
[17:27] <NigeyS> lol
[17:27] <fsphil-laptop> reflecting ur signals
[17:27] <oop> over 600km! Distance to launch: 600.8km, Flight time: 5 hrs, 46 min, Average speed 28.9m/s
[17:27] <fsphil-laptop> refracting even
[17:28] <Darkside> oop: man its going fast
[17:28] <Darkside> we were barely at 200km distance at this point
[17:28] <GW8RAK> Still going?
[17:28] <Upu_2E0UPU> yep
[17:28] <GW8RAK> Been out for a 2 hour walk and a nice beer
[17:28] <GW8RAK> Wonder when I lost signal
[17:28] <benchoff> who the hell is tracking from Leeds?
[17:29] <benchoff> and what magic are they using?
[17:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> o7
[17:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> 726km
[17:29] <Randomskk> if you click their icon
[17:29] <Randomskk> it shows their name
[17:29] <Lunar_Lander> hi GW8RAK
[17:29] <fsphil-laptop> evil radio voodoo by Upu_2E0UPU
[17:29] <Randomskk> and their bastard-meter, but in upu's case it's through the roof
[17:29] <earthshine> Upu_2E0UPU: Do you have that antenna of your's up a tall mast ?
[17:29] <Randomskk> silly colinears
[17:29] <Randomskk> insane
[17:29] <GW8RAK> Hi Lunar, you receiving this balloon?
[17:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah 280 meter mast
[17:29] <Upu_2E0UPU> its called a hill
[17:29] <earthshine> lol
[17:29] <Randomskk> we are at 30m :( :(
[17:29] <fsphil-laptop> you call that a hill? and you couldn't even receive my signal ;-)
[17:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[17:30] <Upu_2E0UPU> brb
[17:30] <jonsowman> 300 baud at 611km
[17:30] <fsphil-laptop> still amazed that 300 baud is working this distance
[17:30] <fsphil-laptop> now if only they had a small uart camera ...
[17:30] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: where can i get them from
[17:30] <Darkside> i should tack one onto a micronut
[17:31] <Darkside> then i can have a microphotonut
[17:31] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, I normally get them from cool components in the uk
[17:31] <fsphil-laptop> but they're made by 4d systems
[17:31] <GW8RAK> Can still hear it I think. 434.647.8?
[17:31] <fsphil-laptop> in aussy land I think
[17:31] <benoxley_mobile> do seeed do them too?
[17:31] <Darkside> yah whats the model number?
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[17:31] <Darkside> or give us a link
[17:31] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, http://www.4dsystems.com.au/prod.php?id=75
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[17:32] <eroomde> 614km!
[17:32] <Darkside> cool $60
[17:32] <eroomde> (sorry jonsowman :p )
[17:32] <Darkside> might try one on a flight sometime fsphil-laptop :-)
[17:32] <fsphil-laptop> lol eroomde
[17:33] <jonsowman> eroomde: hehe, 618 now
[17:33] <jonsowman> still 300 baud
[17:33] <GW8RAK> Karen has just asked what is the point, just loads of fuzzy noises. Would anyone care to explain?
[17:33] <priyesh> the temp sensors will cut out at -55
[17:33] <eroomde> GW8RAK: gave up on that one long ago
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[17:33] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: will it worked with software serial?
[17:33] <Darkside> or will i need a hardware serial port to handle the data from it
[17:34] <oop> darkside: what's the station you're proxying?
[17:34] <eroomde> it's still in sunlight
[17:34] <fsphil-laptop> I've only used hardware serial Darkside, but I suspect it might be fine at 1200 baud
[17:34] <Dan-K2VOL> the batteries will hold heat much longer than the CPU
[17:34] <fsphil-laptop> on software serial
[17:34] <danielsaul> "at least itll be evening by the time it gets there
[17:34] <danielsaul> less likely to murder some german
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[17:34] <griffonbot> @cuspaceflight: Continuing to decode Alpha at 620km at 300 baud! #apexhab #cusf [http://twitter.com/cuspaceflight/status/127799964851113984]
[17:34] <danielsaul> "
[17:34] <eroomde> maybe we'll observe something interesting happen when it goes dark
[17:34] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: what baud rate do you do from it?
[17:34] <danielsaul> Argh
[17:34] <Darkside> eroomde: its already in the dark
[17:34] <eroomde> is it?
[17:34] <Darkside> yep
[17:34] <Darkside> the temp has dropped significantly
[17:35] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, 14.4k baud
[17:35] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: hmm software serial might handle that
[17:35] <eroomde> it's 5.30pm there
[17:35] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: will have to look at your code
[17:35] <fsphil-laptop> you can command it to go slower
[17:35] <eroomde> oh no wait
[17:35] <eroomde> d'oh
[17:35] <eroomde> total brain fail
[17:35] <Darkside> eroomde: http://www.worldtimezone.com/datetime.html
[17:35] <Dan-K2VOL> fig 2 on that energizer lithium handbook shows capacity over temperature
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[17:36] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: i'd be inclined to do 600 baud images down :P
[17:36] <jonsowman> 625km...
[17:36] <Darkside> or 1200, just for fun
[17:36] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, tim did 600 and it worked really well. 1200 kinda worked
[17:36] <Darkside> cool
[17:36] <Upu_2E0UPU> jonsowman @ 300 ?
[17:36] <jonsowman> Upu_2E0UPU: yes
[17:37] <fsphil-laptop> it needs very careful tuning at 1200 baud
[17:37] <Darkside> 300 baud telemetry, 600 baud images then
[17:37] <Randomskk> down to 0 deg el
[17:37] <Randomskk> D:
[17:37] <Upu_2E0UPU> 677.9 to beat :)
[17:37] <G4TNX> lost 300baud decodes, serves me right for living just above sea level
[17:37] <Darkside> will have to order one of those cameras :-)
[17:37] <Randomskk> yagi is lying flat
[17:37] <Dan-K2VOL> Page 4 on this shows some useful energizer lithium discharge vs temp curves: http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/lithiuml91l92_appman.pdf
[17:37] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: current draw?
[17:37] <Dan-K2VOL> 90ma
[17:37] <earthshine> We need a HAM in BErlin fast !!
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[17:38] <Upu_2E0UPU> still got it ...
[17:38] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, about 60ma
[17:38] <DanielRichman> so. how did that get over ther
[17:38] <Dan-K2VOL> Lunar_Lander, do oyu have your receiver yet?
[17:38] <DanielRichman> doesn't look like it's going to splash down :P
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[17:38] <Randomskk> DanielRichman: hehe
[17:38] <Randomskk> indeed
[17:38] <Upu_2E0UPU> well the strangest thing happened DanielRichman
[17:38] <fsphil-laptop> I've never measured it though Darkside. will do that tomorrow
[17:38] <earthshine> Upu_2E0UPU: What is your receiver?
[17:38] <fsphil-laptop> thats from the datasheet
[17:38] <DanielRichman> Upu_2E0UPU: another bizzare float?
[17:39] <Lunar_Lander> Dan-K2VOL : yes
[17:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> Ft-817
[17:39] <Darkside> DanielRichman: this flight is looking very very familiar to me
[17:39] <Lunar_Lander> I actually had it a few months
[17:39] <Dan-K2VOL> you got it on?
[17:39] <Lunar_Lander> yes
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[17:39] <DanielRichman> Darkside: :D
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[17:39] <Darkside> 2000g hwoyee, light payload, attempt at altitude record
[17:39] <Lunar_Lander> but there is no signal currently Dan-K2VOL
[17:39] <Upu_2E0UPU> signal is struggling now
[17:39] <Darkside> and a float
[17:39] <Dan-K2VOL> don't see u on the map Lunar_Lander
[17:39] <Randomskk> DanielRichman: we have the CUSF trackotron setup
[17:39] <Randomskk> but it's currently at 0 degs el
[17:39] <griffonbot> @apexhab: #Alpha speeding across Germany! We need German trackers quickly! #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127801360145063936]
[17:39] <Randomskk> D:
[17:39] <DanielRichman> haha
[17:40] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: datasheet claims 60mA or so
[17:40] <DanielRichman> I presume the trackotron clocked up the most lines then
[17:40] <Lunar_Lander> Dan-K2VOL : I should be in the north-west
[17:40] <Upu_2E0UPU> 752.3 km....
[17:40] <Lunar_Lander> south of the balloon track
[17:40] <griffonbot> @LVL1WhiteStar: RT @apexhab: #Alpha speeding across Germany! We need German trackers quickly! #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/LVL1WhiteStar/status/127801532866498560]
[17:40] <costyn> Upu_2E0UPU: how many KMs is it from you now?
[17:40] <Upu_2E0UPU> 752.3 km
[17:40] <costyn> oh
[17:40] <Randomskk> DanielRichman: you'd think so
[17:40] <costyn> hehe
[17:40] <griffonbot> @TheArduinoGuy: RT @apexhab: #Alpha speeding across Germany! We need German trackers quickly! #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/TheArduinoGuy/status/127801604496818177]
[17:40] <Randomskk> but Upu_2E0UPU is dominating, it's insane
[17:40] <daveake> Upu - wow
[17:40] <costyn> Upu_2E0UPU: amazing
[17:40] <Randomskk> with his sodding colinear >_>
[17:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[17:41] <Randomskk> actually I think we might have the most lines because we started slightly early
[17:41] <daveake> Lost it here ages ago
[17:41] <Randomskk> but yea
[17:41] <Darkside> Upu_2E0UPU: what antenna are you using?
[17:41] <earthshine> and his impressive hill ;)
[17:41] <Upu_2E0UPU> if I don't let the wife on the PC soon I'm in trouble
[17:41] <DanielRichman> haha
[17:41] <fsphil-laptop> eek
[17:41] <number10> its the location of his house
[17:41] <fsphil-laptop> tell her this is important !
[17:41] <earthshine> Wrap the wife up in clog film and throw her in the freezer
[17:41] <jonsowman> basically lost 300 baud here
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[17:41] <earthshine> *cling
[17:42] <jonsowman> oh just got another 300 baud!
[17:42] <daveake> I bought my wife a tablet so she leaves my netbook alone ...
[17:42] <priyesh> jonsowman: :)
[17:42] <griffonbot> @Bernattc: RT @cuspaceflight: Continuing to decode Alpha at 620km at 300 baud! #apexhab #cusf [http://twitter.com/Bernattc/status/127801998484582402]
[17:42] <earthshine> Defrost her once the payload is down
[17:42] <jonsowman> 640km priyesh
[17:42] <daveake> .... so now she's watching spacenear on it!
[17:42] <griffonbot> @b3noxley: RT @apexhab #Alpha speeding across Germany! We need German trackers quickly! #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/b3noxley/status/127802046031200256]
[17:42] <priyesh> jonsowman: what did Upu_2E0UPU manage on 300
[17:43] <Randomskk> 677
[17:43] <Randomskk> iirc?
[17:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah
[17:43] <earthshine> Ring some radio stations in Berlin and ask them to do a shout out !!
[17:43] <Randomskk> still going...
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[17:43] <NigeyS> 100 in chat, thats a record to ?
[17:43] <Upu_2E0UPU> 50 baud is struggling to decode I think I may just be out of range
[17:43] <jonsowman> NigeyS: :o
[17:43] <Randomskk> Upu_2E0UPU: you are a long way out of the horizon
[17:43] <Lunar_Lander> I still don't get why I can't read it
[17:43] <Randomskk> you should have been out of range for ages haha
[17:44] <Upu_2E0UPU> I know
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[17:44] <fsphil-laptop> he's a witch! burn him!
[17:44] <Upu_2E0UPU> lol
[17:44] <NigeyS> lol
[17:44] <Darkside> ducting?
[17:44] <Upu_2E0UPU> 300 meter antenna
[17:44] <Rob_M0DTS> Upu is HAR, high altitude receiver
[17:44] <Darkside> :P
[17:44] <NigeyS> come on upu, own up, you bought a 100m mast didnt ya :p
[17:44] <Lunar_Lander> eroomde are you here?
[17:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah I'm out
[17:45] <fsphil-laptop> I was wondering what that big tower I saw from the plane was
[17:45] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: RT @apexhab: #Alpha speeding across Germany! We need German trackers quickly! #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/127802700632047616]
[17:45] <Upu_2E0UPU> will have to check back on data but I think I got 750km
[17:45] <fogger> You might be better off trying #tag in your tweet that a ham is more likely to follow
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[17:45] <NigeyS> #porn ?
[17:45] <danielsaul> What do berlin hams follow on twitter? :S
[17:46] <Randomskk> 645...
[17:46] <Randomskk> Upu_2E0UPU: 750km on 50 baud?
[17:46] <griffonbot> @aewakefield: RT @apexhab: #Alpha speeding across Germany! We need German trackers quickly! #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/aewakefield/status/127802940571389952]
[17:46] <priyesh> #rtty
[17:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> yeah
[17:46] <Randomskk> nice
[17:46] <Randomskk> we're slowly catching up to your 300 baud record :P
[17:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> I can see it on waterfall
[17:46] <oop> Distance to launch: 645.8km, Flight time: 6 hrs, 5 min, Average speed 29.5m/s
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[17:46] <Upu_2E0UPU> but back ground is drowning it out
[17:47] <Darkside> NigeyS: can you decode using globaltuners?
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[17:47] <NigeyS> nope, this new motherboard doesnt have a full duplex soundcard :/
[17:47] Nick change: Upu_2E0UPU -> Upu
[17:47] <Tay> try #amateurfunk
[17:47] <Darkside> uhh use virtual audio cable
[17:47] <Darkside> or something like that
[17:47] <Upu> well that was fun
[17:48] <Upu> good luck :)
[17:48] <Upu> best get some food
[17:48] <Darkside> its 4:18 here
[17:48] <Upu> bbl
[17:48] <Darkside> and i really need to go to bed
[17:48] <Darkside> well, sleep, i'm in bed...
[17:48] <Darkside> but i need someone to takeover from me on this globaltuners node, and it needs to be someone with a full account
[17:48] <Darkside> newbie users can't re-tune this node
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[17:49] <fsphil-laptop> there are different levels of user on gt now?
[17:49] <Darkside> yes
[17:49] <Darkside> 'normal' users can't re-tune nodes
[17:49] <Darkside> or at least some of them
[17:49] <danielsaul> bbl, nearly home
[17:50] <oop> darkside let me try
[17:50] <priyesh> Darkside: willing to give details to someone else?
[17:50] <Randomskk> hahaha amazing checksum
[17:50] <Darkside> i'm not even usin my own account
[17:50] <Darkside> i'm using Upu's
[17:50] <Darkside> and i shouldn't be giving out his detials
[17:50] <Darkside> Randomskk: AWESOME
[17:50] <jonsowman> another 300 baud packet at 659km
[17:50] <Darkside> note: i am lagged by 5 seconds on the audio stream :P
[17:50] <Darkside> and the checksum was B00B
[17:51] <jonsowman> Darkside: we saw that lol
[17:51] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, I found one further east
[17:51] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: where?
[17:51] <Darkside> all the ones i've seen are way further south
[17:51] <benchoff> Vreg cutoff is 3.8, right?
[17:51] <Darkside> benchoff: approx
[17:51] <Darkside> it'll go lower
[17:51] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, Odenwald
[17:52] <benchoff> we're going to lose it very soon
[17:52] <fsphil-laptop> it's tuned to 438.650
[17:52] <fsphil-laptop> someone is using it
[17:52] <Randomskk> juuust about losing 300 baud
[17:52] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: hrm
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[17:53] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: oh that one
[17:53] <fsphil-laptop> dial frequency ?
[17:53] <Darkside> i think the one i'm on is best at the moment
[17:53] <oop> fsphil got it
[17:53] <fsphil-laptop> that you on there too oop?
[17:53] <Darkside> the one i'm on has a 12dBi omni on it
[17:53] <oop> it's more weaker now at odenwald :O
[17:53] <Darkside> try the one i'm on
[17:53] <fsphil-laptop> I can't hear anythone on 434.650 USB
[17:54] <jonsowman> fsphil-laptop: dial freq 434.642
[17:54] <benchoff> 662km...
[17:54] <Darkside> jonsowman: urr
[17:54] <Darkside> i'm on 434.644.5
[17:54] <fsphil-laptop> got it
[17:54] <Randomskk> one byte wrong on a 300 baud decode :(
[17:54] <DanielRichman> pssh if you fix by hand and upload noone will know :P
[17:55] <jonsowman> that'd be cheating...
[17:56] <fsphil-laptop> nice signal
[17:56] <fsphil-laptop> I got one byte off earlier :)
[17:56] <benchoff> did lunar go to bed? he might be helpful now...
[17:57] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: can you take over on this node?
[17:57] <Darkside> or are you unable to re-tune them
[17:57] <fsphil-laptop> almost able to decode on this other one Darkside
[17:57] <Darkside> the one i'm on is working perfecrly on 50 baud
[17:57] <Darkside> and its an Icom R7000, which is an extremely sensitive receiver
[17:58] <G4TNX> horizon got me, no more decodes, that was fun
[17:58] <fsphil-laptop> I need more computers
[17:58] <Darkside> i'd really suggest using this one until it goes out of range
[17:58] <russss> this balloon is a goer
[17:58] <Randomskk> G4TNX: good show :D
[17:58] <Randomskk> I think we might be out of the game shortly
[17:58] <Randomskk> decodes getting v patchy and no good ones in a little while
[17:58] <fsphil-laptop> got one Darkside
[17:59] <Darkside> Randomskk: even at 50 baud?
[17:59] <Randomskk> 675km atm...
[17:59] <russss> I suggest finding some receiving stations in poland
[17:59] <Randomskk> Darkside: yea
[17:59] <Darkside> ahh
[17:59] <Darkside> i'm getting this one fine
[17:59] <Darkside> its showing up at 1 dB SNR though
[18:00] <priyesh> jonsowman: can you take Darkside's?
[18:00] <Darkside> but i reckon this globaltuner node has a bit of life in it yet
[18:00] <russss> I can get on globaltuners if it'll help
[18:00] <fsphil-laptop> yea, better to have two
[18:00] <priyesh> yeah
[18:00] <Darkside> russss: are you a % user?
[18:00] <Darkside> russss: get on the Dokkum DX node
[18:01] <Darkside> netherlands
[18:01] <Darkside> russss: are you able to re-tune the node?
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[18:02] <fsphil-laptop> now if I could just find the coordinates to enter to show it on the map
[18:02] <russss> tuning is decent currently
[18:02] <russss> I will need to install fldigi
[18:02] <Darkside> russss: its drifting
[18:02] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: how well are you getting packets on your one?
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[18:02] <russss> hmm yeah I can hear it
[18:02] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: im pretty sure the one i'm on is closer
[18:02] <Lunar_Lander> benchoff : I am here
[18:03] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: howabout you switch to this one and russs can try the other one
[18:03] <Lunar_Lander> but I don't get reception
[18:03] <Darkside> since you have a working setup going at the moment, and i know this node is working
[18:03] <benchoff> figured.
[18:03] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: 434.644.5
[18:03] <Randomskk> yaaay got a 50
[18:03] <russss> I can grab the tuner in ~100 seconds
[18:03] <priyesh> horizon?
[18:03] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, very well
[18:03] <Randomskk> we're outside the horizon
[18:03] <fsphil-laptop> all the 50 baud ones
[18:04] <Lunar_Lander> Darkside : I got that freqency, but no signal
[18:04] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: tune around?
[18:04] <Darkside> try and find it
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[18:04] <Darkside> your radio probably isnt calibrated correctly
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[18:06] <russss> globaltuners needs a rig control API
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[18:06] <Darkside> heh
[18:06] <Randomskk> 50 baud at 691km...
[18:06] <Randomskk> in our little control room :P
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[18:08] <fsphil-laptop> uh oh
[18:08] <fsphil-laptop> warble on the signal
[18:08] <benoxley_mobile> :D
[18:08] <Dan-K2VOL> uh oh indeed
[18:08] <Darkside> yep
[18:08] <benchoff> are any of the APEX guys hanging out in here?
[18:08] <Darkside> i heard that
[18:08] <priyesh> hey
[18:08] <priyesh> benchoff:
[18:08] <Lunar_Lander> no signal, no matter what I do
[18:08] <Darkside> hold
[18:08] <Dan-K2VOL> Lunar_lander where are you?
[18:08] <Darkside> nvm
[18:09] <Darkside> probably not a burst
[18:09] <benoxley_mobile> benchoff: yes
[18:09] <benchoff> priyesh: shoot me an email @hackaday. Putting the flight up.
[18:09] <Lunar_Lander> in Osnabrueck
[18:09] <priyesh> benchoff: won't be able to do so until i'm home
[18:09] <priyesh> actually
[18:09] <priyesh> benchoff: email?
[18:09] <benchoff> priyesh: brianbenchoff@hackaday.com
[18:10] <fogger> I found a german ham radio forum with a dozen users on irc. Anybody speak german?
[18:10] <fogger> http://www.hamradioboard.de/wbb3/index.php?page=Portal
[18:10] <benchoff> whatevs
[18:10] <benchoff> or team@hackaday
[18:10] <Dan-K2VOL> lol google translate does
[18:10] <priyesh> sent
[18:10] <earthshine> I am sure they will speak ENglish
[18:10] <oop> battery 3.76V :O
[18:10] <benchoff> how has it not died?
[18:10] <rocketguy> flux capacitors
[18:11] <Randomskk> 702km 50baud decode
[18:11] <Darkside> the dropout voltage is a bit iffy
[18:11] <priyesh> i really hope it doesn't!
[18:11] <Randomskk> we're the only not-globaltuners left ;o
[18:11] <Darkside> its meant to be 300mV
[18:11] <Randomskk> and well behind the horizon so
[18:11] <Darkside> so it should go down to 3.7v...
[18:11] <Randomskk> probably won't be around for much longer....
[18:11] <Darkside> but it'll probably run below that
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[18:11] <benchoff> priyesh: got it
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[18:11] <daveake> 3.76 should be ok.
[18:12] <oop> over 700km! Distance to launch: 701.4km, Flight time: 6 hrs, 30 min, Average speed 29.9m/s
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[18:12] <earthshine> So the UK record is well and truly broken?
[18:12] <fsphil-laptop> very
[18:12] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[18:12] <earthshine> :)
[18:12] <Darkside> distance record?
[18:12] <Darkside> yeah :P
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[18:13] <Darkside> world distance record? not even close :P
[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> does dl-fldigi work on debian?
[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> I was just asked that
[18:13] <earthshine> Yes
[18:13] <Darkside> there are debs around, or he can compile it from the source
[18:13] <russss> yeah, although as I'm finding out there are no debs for the newest version
[18:13] <russss> (of ubuntu)
[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[18:13] <Lunar_Lander> thanks :)
[18:13] <jonsowman> 708km at 50 baud
[18:13] <Randomskk> less than 50km to go for the 50baud record
[18:14] <Randomskk> the very recently set record :P
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[18:14] <daveake> :)
[18:14] <Randomskk> haha we are dominating all over the previous ones
[18:14] <fsphil-laptop> I feel very outdone today ;)
[18:14] <Randomskk> :P
[18:14] <daveake> :)
[18:14] <Randomskk> only by like 250km
[18:14] <Lunar_Lander> could it be somehow that having a window to the west was contributing to the reception=
[18:14] <Lunar_Lander> ?
[18:14] <Randomskk> 710km decode...
[18:15] <Lunar_Lander> Randomskk : which antenna?
[18:15] <Randomskk> yagi on autorotator
[18:15] <Darkside> ahh crap, predictor won't update anymore, its gone out of the +-10 degree longitude
[18:15] <Randomskk> http://twitpic.com/744wm3
[18:15] <Randomskk> Lunar_Lander: ^
[18:16] <benoxley_mobile> going to have to leave soon, phone battery dying....
[18:16] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[18:16] <Lunar_Lander> Randomskk : I think that my simple antenna is the reason that I don't get signal anymore
[18:16] <Darkside> craaaaaap i need to sleep
[18:16] <Darkside> is anyone taking over from me on this globaltuner?
[18:16] <Randomskk> you say that, but people have got some silly good distances on fairly normal antennas
[18:16] <Lunar_Lander> hm ok
[18:16] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[18:17] <Lunar_Lander> does dl-fldigi work in command line?
[18:17] <Darkside> uhh no
[18:17] <Darkside> it needs a gui
[18:17] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:17] <Lunar_Lander> cause his sever has no GPU he said
[18:17] <SpeedEvil> Just keep doubling the power till it works.
[18:17] <SpeedEvil> Argh - silly scrollback
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[18:18] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: he can't even do an X-forward?
[18:18] <benchoff> inside temp -42 C.
[18:18] <Randomskk> 718km decode...
[18:18] <benchoff> ouch.
[18:19] <Lunar_Lander> Darkside : one sec
[18:19] <Darkside> russss: a bit too soon there
[18:19] <russss> heh, is someone else decoding this?
[18:19] <russss> I'm still trying to compile libpng
[18:19] <Darkside> russss: we're getting a bit too close to the edge of the r7000's passband
[18:19] <Darkside> russss: i'm still decoding
[18:19] <russss> ah ok
[18:19] <russss> should I go back?
[18:19] <Darkside> nah
[18:19] <Darkside> its working
[18:19] <russss> ah I think I just clicked
[18:19] <russss> there is like a 25 second lag on tuning this thing
[18:20] <russss> I'll go back up
[18:20] <Darkside> yeah
[18:20] <Darkside> nah
[18:20] <Darkside> wait
[18:20] <russss> lol
[18:20] <Darkside> bah
[18:20] <Darkside> whatever
[18:20] <russss> I'll leave it
[18:20] <Darkside> leave it on 642
[18:20] <Darkside> its working
[18:21] <fsphil-laptop> russss decoding?
[18:21] <benchoff> who's in France?
[18:22] <russss> fsphil-laptop: it's a collaborative effort, I'm tuning and Darkside is decoding
[18:22] <fsphil-laptop> my other machine isn't loading global tuners interface
[18:22] <russss> because you can't tune globaltuners if you're a new user or something?
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[18:22] <fsphil-laptop> possibly
[18:22] <fsphil-laptop> I'm sure I can tune it if I could just get in there
[18:23] <russss> yeah I have to head out in about 30mins
[18:24] <fsphil-laptop> beginning to fade at the station I'm on
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> but well
[18:24] <Darkside> still working ok on this one
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> YES I CONTRIBUTED!
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[18:24] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[18:24] <fsphil-laptop> you get a string Lunar_Lander?
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> no
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> but I contributed earlier
[18:24] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[18:24] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: you *should* be able to hear it from where you are
[18:25] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[18:25] <Darkside> even on a small antenna..
[18:25] <Lunar_Lander> again, could it be that to the west I have only a wall, to the north and east there are other rooms?
[18:25] <costyn> Lunar_Lander: go outside? :)
[18:25] <Lunar_Lander> the cable isn't long enough
[18:25] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: your antenna is inside?
[18:25] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[18:25] <Darkside> thats your problem then
[18:25] <Lunar_Lander> I have the radio on my desk
[18:25] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[18:25] <Darkside> no wonder
[18:26] <costyn> lightbulb moment? :)
[18:26] <jonsowman> i think we've lost it here
[18:26] <jonsowman> can't make it out over the noise
[18:26] <fsphil-laptop> fading at this station too
[18:27] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: take over on this one please
[18:27] <Darkside> its 5am here
[18:27] <fsphil-laptop> okie
[18:27] <costyn> Darkside: well done :)
[18:27] <Darkside> oh jeez, its kind of fading on this one too...
[18:27] <danielsaul> back
[18:27] <Darkside> still getting decodes though
[18:27] <Darkside> fuuu
[18:28] <Darkside> i have no idea what the feel free to tune button does
[18:28] <Darkside> lol
[18:28] <oop> think about burst over berlin, would be perfect end :)
[18:28] <fsphil-laptop> it's *very* quiet on this station
[18:28] <Randomskk> can't hear it
[18:28] <fsphil-laptop> a lot stronger on the other one Darkside
[18:28] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: its decoding though
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[18:28] <Darkside> i just turned the volume op on it
[18:29] <Darkside> well, use whatever gets the best decodes
[18:29] <Darkside> but remember both are there
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[18:29] <jonsowman> hi jcoxon
[18:29] <Darkside> these are the last receivers we have
[18:29] <fsphil-laptop> not very well
[18:29] <jcoxon> Oh dears
[18:29] <jcoxon> Where is it?
[18:29] <jonsowman> right that's it for the CUED trakotron
[18:29] <jonsowman> completely lost in the noise
[18:30] <Darkside> jcoxon: we're down to a few globaltuners in the netherlands and germany
[18:30] <Lunar_Lander> no signal at all even in the open window
[18:30] <jcoxon> There is a German global tuners iirc
[18:30] <Darkside> jcoxon: yeah buts its too far south
[18:30] <jcoxon> Oh yeah
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[18:30] <costyn> no luck on the German HAM IRC channel?
[18:30] <jcoxon> Email the lists
[18:30] <jcoxon> Ukhas, gpsl
[18:30] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: whats the ham channel?
[18:30] <fogger> I managed to get someone on that german irc channel that speaks english, but he can't tune into 70cm ssb. He said that most germans hams won't be on irc anyway. It was worth a try.
[18:30] <jonsowman> last heard on a dial frequency about 434.64071
[18:31] <Darkside> bah
[18:31] <Darkside> jonsowman: your dial is off
[18:31] <Darkside> we're seeing 434.643 here, and i trust a R7000 more :P
[18:31] <Darkside> jonsowman: what radio are you using?
[18:31] <jonsowman> IC-7000
[18:31] <Darkside> wha
[18:32] <Darkside> that shouldn't be off
[18:32] <Lunar_Lander> Darkside : I don't know
[18:32] <jonsowman> Darkside: radio is USB
[18:32] <Darkside> maybe this r7000 is off then... bah
[18:32] <Darkside> so is this
[18:32] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: try 434.640 then
[18:32] <Darkside> try tuning around a bit
[18:32] <Darkside> etc
[18:32] <oop> Distance to launch: 746.5km, Flight time: 6 hrs, 51 min, Average speed 30.2m/s @ http://on.tuu.fi/tesmaus/alpha.php
[18:32] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[18:33] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: you decoding?
[18:33] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, yea
[18:33] <Darkside> oh good
[18:33] <fsphil-laptop> well, mostly
[18:33] <Darkside> i'm crashing then
[18:33] <fsphil-laptop> some bad characters
[18:33] <jcoxon> http://www.ballonprojekt.de/ how about these guys?
[18:33] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:33] <Darkside> ok gnight all
[18:33] <Lunar_Lander> they are in the far south
[18:33] <fsphil-laptop> night Darkside
[18:33] <jonsowman> thanks Darkside, night
[18:34] <jcoxon> They'll know people
[18:34] <earthshine-garde> worth a try
[18:34] <costyn> Darkside: cya
[18:34] <jcoxon> Lat lon?
[18:34] <earthshine-garde> Would be a real shame to lose it
[18:34] <benoxley_mobile> thanks darkside
[18:34] <earthshine-garde> night Darkside
[18:34] <Darkside> get on the bloody IRLP nodes
[18:34] Nick change: earthshine-garde -> earthshine2
[18:34] <Darkside> dial up the IRLP node in berlin and start asking around
[18:35] <Darkside> its your best bet at this point int ime
[18:35] <jcoxon> Email gpsl they'll know someone
[18:35] <Darkside> yeah but will they respond in time
[18:35] <Darkside> the battery looks like its about to die
[18:35] <Darkside> you need to get people listening *now*
[18:36] <jonsowman> right, we're packing up and heading home
[18:36] <Upu> did I get beat ?
[18:37] <jonsowman> no Upu
[18:37] <Upu> will need to double check mine
[18:37] <Upu> we on global tuners now ?
[18:37] <fsphil-laptop> so global tuners is the only receiver now?
[18:37] <Upu> thats not good
[18:38] Action: danielsaul hopes that google translate's german is correct for the sign on the side...
[18:38] <costyn> danielsaul: the Dutch had some mistakes, but perfectly understandable; German should be ok
[18:38] <Lunar_Lander> I'm just phoning a ham
[18:38] <danielsaul> Good good
[18:38] <fsphil-laptop> we need more ham!
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[18:39] <daveake> More ham less onions?
[18:39] <RocketBoy> I guess it will be well into Balarus or possibly russia before sunup
[18:39] <Tay> Try twitter #amateurfunk
[18:39] <fsphil-laptop> yea, no onions. yuck
[18:39] <RocketBoy> so no flight termination device?
[18:40] <russss> danielsaul: you might have to start worrying about Polish soon!
[18:40] <danielsaul> Yes :S
[18:40] <fsphil-laptop> bad checksum on those last two strings
[18:40] <benchoff> they would have cut it down by now rocketboy...
[18:40] <costyn> RocketBoy: this one was supposed to go down in the north sea :)
[18:40] <RocketBoy> ah the FTD didn't work then?
[18:40] <fsphil-laptop> it was suppose to burst ;)
[18:41] <daveake> So the ones that are supposed to land in Suffolk, land in the North Sea. The ones that are supposed to land in the North Sea land on the continent ...
[18:41] <russss> accidental floater
[18:42] <griffonbot> @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127817066446196736]
[18:42] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/127817068581109761]
[18:42] <earthshine2> and breaking records in the process
[18:42] <RocketBoy> what balloon was it?
[18:42] <daveake> Floating in the wrong medium
[18:42] <danielsaul> RocketBoy: 2000g Hywoyee
[18:43] <griffonbot> @TheArduinoGuy: RT @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/TheArduinoGuy/status/127817332138582016]
[18:43] <Lunar_Lander> OK one moment
[18:43] <RocketBoy> with a 4m/sec ascent rate it stood a very good chance of floating based on previous experiance
[18:44] <griffonbot> @b3noxley: RT @apexhab Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz #rtty #hab #radio [http://twitter.com/b3noxley/status/127817542755549184]
[18:44] <griffonbot> @bm_: RT @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/bm_/status/127817601530347521]
[18:45] <danielsaul> RocketBoy: It was about 2.5m/s ascent iirc
[18:45] <fsphil-laptop> still reasonable signal on global tuners
[18:45] <danielsaul> We hoped anyway
[18:45] <RocketBoy> oh I must have got that wrong
[18:45] <Randomskk> going qrt
[18:45] <Randomskk> good show guys!
[18:45] <Randomskk> we got to 730km so I think upu still wins :P
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[18:46] <fsphil-laptop> colinears rule :)
[18:46] <Upu> just checking my last string now
[18:46] <fsphil-laptop> you'd think the yagi would be better
[18:46] <benchoff> griffonbot: I'm doing all I can with my internet cred.
[18:46] <Randomskk> we're only 30m AGL or something
[18:46] <griffonbot> @adamgreig: RT @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/adamgreig/status/127818160207446016]
[18:46] <Rob_M0DTS> i have spotted on dx cluser for report so maybe get odd one.
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[18:47] <fsphil-laptop> dx cluster, good idea
[18:47] <Randomskk> packing up and heading home
[18:47] <benchoff> griffonbot: Hopefully I can get a hold of the hackaday twitter
[18:47] <Randomskk> later all
[18:47] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: RT @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/127818280600748033]
[18:47] <fsphil-laptop> those tweets contain enough information?
[18:47] Nick change: rocketguy -> SkunkWorks
[18:47] <danielsaul> fsphil-laptop: Probably not
[18:47] Nick change: SkunkWorks -> Skunk
[18:47] <DanielRichman> I guess you're hoping will reply to the tweet?
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[18:48] <eroomde> benchoff: griffonbot is a robot
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[18:48] <benchoff> lol
[18:48] <danielsaul> Approaching berlin... what airports are around? :P
[18:48] <eroomde> schoenfeld?
[18:48] <priyesh-mob> how close
[18:48] <eroomde> (sp)
[18:49] <priyesh-mob> and batt voltage?
[18:49] <daveake> 3.7
[18:49] <lephisto> mit der die unser gerhirn braten
[18:49] <fsphil-laptop> vbatt has actually gone up slightly
[18:49] <lephisto> ww
[18:49] <daveake> I'd get worried below 3.2
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[18:49] <Upu> 756.5 km @ 50 baud from 53.752496,-1.817875 -> Packet 754
[18:50] <howard> Hi guys - Im back in Purley. Thanks for a wonderful day.
[18:50] <fsphil-laptop> congrats Upu !
[18:50] <Lunar_Lander> what is the freq you have?
[18:50] <Upu> right where are the germans ?
[18:50] <howard> How long do you think the batteries can last?
[18:50] <daveake> In Germany. Loads of them
[18:50] <fsphil-laptop> I'm getting glitches in the audio
[18:50] <fsphil-laptop> not sure if it's payload or my computer
[18:50] <griffonbot> @cuspaceflight: RT @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/cuspaceflight/status/127819170980179968]
[18:50] <lephisto> berlin has several airports, tegel, tempelhof (inactive), gatow and bbi
[18:51] <daveake> I've tested an Arduino Mini Pro with NTX2 and Lassen IQ and it all worked down to just 3.08V
[18:51] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil-laptop : on whuich frequency are you?
[18:51] <GW8RAK> At 36km up, the airports are irrelevant
[18:51] <danielsaul> Yeh
[18:51] <danielsaul> Unless it suddenly bursts over berlin...
[18:52] <fsphil-laptop> Lunar_Lander, 434.642
[18:52] <fsphil-laptop> USB
[18:52] <griffonbot> @jamescoxon: RT @apexhab Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/127819578893021184]
[18:52] <danielsaul> Getting lots of retweets of various tweets... but no replys :(
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[18:52] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: Alpha balloon floating @ 35km over Germany help needed to track see http://t.co/kiLRg9h4 on how to talk to us for info on tracking #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/127819724452143104]
[18:53] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: RT @AnthonyStirk: Alpha balloon floating @ 35km over Germany help needed to track see http://t.co/kiLRg9h4 on how to talk to us for info ... [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/127819796225081344]
[18:53] <jcoxon> Give it time...
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[18:54] <Upu> Someone been in touch with http://www.darc.de/ ?
[18:54] <howard> Has Cambridge lost contact?
[18:54] <griffonbot> @tenbus_uk: RT @AnthonyStirk: Alpha balloon floating @ 35km over Germany help needed to track see http://t.co/kiLRg9h4 on how to talk to us for info ... [http://twitter.com/tenbus_uk/status/127820074382921730]
[18:54] <griffonbot> @steamfire: @cfarivar balloon floating @ 35km over Germany help needed to track see http://t.co/tcg9hAbh to talk to us for info on tracking #ukhas [http://twitter.com/steamfire/status/127820157618896898]
[18:54] <griffonbot> @TheRealCyber5: Attention HAMs in Germany! RT @apexhab Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/TheRealCyber5/status/127820169002233857]
[18:54] <fsphil-laptop> altitude is dropping fairly fast
[18:54] <jcoxon> Amsat guys are usually very good
[18:55] <Dan-K2VOL> just tweeted a Deutche Welle technology blogger/show host
[18:55] <Lunar_Lander> we got decoding! but he does only have normal fldigi and isn't on ubuntu
[18:55] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[18:55] <fsphil-laptop> Lunar_Lander, what's he using?
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[18:56] <Lunar_Lander> how do you?
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[18:56] <Lunar_Lander> mean
[18:56] <fsphil-laptop> what operating system?
[18:56] <DanielRichman> Lunar_Lander: if he pastes some strings into IRC then we can upload them
[18:56] <RocketBoy> I make the ascent rate about 3.5m/sec (approx 11:40 GMT launch, 35000m at 14:20) on the graph? float territory for a H2000
[18:56] <DanielRichman> but there are dl-fldigi builds for all three OSes I think; though nto sure about the latest OSX
[18:57] <danielsaul> RocketBoy: Ah, we obviously guessed wrong then
[18:57] <jcoxon> Can someone screenshot spacenear
[18:57] <earthshine2> The latest OSX binary works in OSX Lion
[18:57] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[18:57] <benchoff> jcoxon: I've got it
[18:58] <jcoxon> And upload it I'm on a mobile
[18:58] <benchoff> curse you!
[18:58] <benchoff> jcoxon: http://i.imgur.com/A5AOg.jpg
[18:59] <DanielRichman> http://i.imgur.com/Jdpio.jpg
[18:59] <DanielRichman> dah
[18:59] <benchoff> WIN
[18:59] <DanielRichman> :-(
[18:59] <eroomde> WIN 7, to be speciic
[18:59] <danielsaul> "Tom says
[18:59] <danielsaul> have you considered contacting the german ambassador?
[18:59] <danielsaul> "
[18:59] <earthshine2> Contact the ISS
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[19:00] <benchoff> someone still has contact, right?
[19:00] <Lunar_Lander> he's coming online
[19:00] <earthshine2> yep
[19:00] <fsphil-laptop> a single radio via global tuners atm
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[19:01] <earthshine2> We'll need someone in Poland soon
[19:01] <benchoff> has anyone noticed the battery voltage went up?
[19:01] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[19:01] <fsphil-laptop> slow increase
[19:01] <benchoff> it was at 3.69, now it's 3.72.
[19:01] <x-f> how come?
[19:01] <fsphil-laptop> 3.67 now
[19:01] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[19:01] <Skunk> What the hell is that globaltuners unit running?
[19:01] <RocketBoy> its not going to land in germany or even poland IIMO
[19:02] <Lunar_Lander> dh1bdl is the person I just phoned, and he can receive the balloon
[19:02] <fsphil-laptop> he needs dl-fldigi :)
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[19:02] <fsphil-laptop> if he's using windows or max, it's easy
[19:02] <fsphil-laptop> mac*
[19:02] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[19:02] <Skunk> probably land in the ukraine somewhere..
[19:02] <Lunar_Lander> he got linux
[19:02] <fsphil-laptop> which distro?
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[19:02] <Lunar_Lander> suse
[19:03] <fsphil-laptop> ah
[19:03] <earthshine2> Who is 2I0VIM/A ?
[19:03] <fsphil-laptop> dunno about that
[19:03] <fsphil-laptop> earthshine2, me - via global tuners :)
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[19:03] <earthshine2> cool
[19:03] <dh1bdl> heard soon:$$ALPHA,840,19:01:23,5242.3034,01203.6695,36273,09,-55.00,-46.56,3.72*4C4F, qrg 434.642 MHz
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[19:03] <fsphil-laptop> oh excellent dh1bdl
[19:03] <dh1bdl> my qth Osnabrueck JO42bi
[19:04] <Upu> dh1bdl just post away any strings you get we don't mine the spam
[19:04] <danielsaul> Thanks dh1bdl :)
[19:04] <Upu> mind
[19:04] <eroomde> dh1bdl: wow, you a very, very, very welcome here
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[19:04] <Skunk> where is dh1bdl located?
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[19:04] <Lunar_Lander> Osnabruck
[19:05] <eroomde> 19:03 < dh1bdl> my qth Osnabrueck JO42bi
[19:06] <priyesh-mob> how is alpha?
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[19:06] <fsphil-laptop> really far away? :)
[19:06] <benchoff> still up there.
[19:06] <fsphil-laptop> still bleeping
[19:06] <Upu> Darkside you still using my GlobalTuners login ?
[19:06] <griffonbot> @kylehotchkiss: RT @jamescoxon: RT @apexhab Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/kylehotchkiss/status/127823145179693056]
[19:06] <fsphil-laptop> think Darkside's in bed
[19:06] <griffonbot> @da_ke: RT @apexhab: #Alpha speeding across Germany! We need German trackers quickly! #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/da_ke/status/127823179879161857]
[19:06] <benchoff> priyesh-mob: sending you an email in a bit.
[19:06] <griffonbot> @da_ke: RT @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/da_ke/status/127823229715873792]
[19:06] <jcoxon> Fun to watch retweeting
[19:07] <Lunar_Lander> is there a simple dipole on it?
[19:07] <Lunar_Lander> like that you have 10 mW EIRP?
[19:07] <Lunar_Lander> priyesh-mob?
[19:07] <danielsaul> benchoff: Assuming its about apex, could you send it to team@apexhab.org please? :D
[19:07] Action: DanielRichman will upload strings posted in irc manually.
[19:08] <benchoff> danielsaul: no problem.
[19:08] <danielsaul> Thanks
[19:08] <priyesh-mob> batt voltage ?
[19:09] <daveake> 3.71
[19:09] <earthshine2> Just about over Berlin
[19:09] <priyesh-mob> alt?
[19:09] <priyesh-mob> location ?
[19:09] <daveake> 36232
[19:09] <earthshine2> 36232
[19:09] <fsphil-laptop> someone retuned the radio...
[19:09] <fsphil-laptop> trying to find it again
[19:10] <priyesh-mob> nice :)
[19:10] <Laurenceb_> acktung spitzballoonen
[19:11] <griffonbot> @SimonVrdoljak: @DLR_en @apexhab Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/SimonVrdoljak/status/127824299741544449]
[19:11] <Upu> which radio are you on fsphil-laptop ?
[19:11] <Upu> and what was last know frequency >
[19:11] <earthshine2> priyesh-mob: It doesn't look like it's planning on coming down any time soon
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[19:11] <Lunar_Lander> dh1bdl told me he will be online for about one hour form now and will try to follow the signal
[19:11] <Lunar_Lander> *from
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[19:11] Nick change: danielsaul -> dansaul_apex
[19:11] <earthshine2> Thanks dh1bdl
[19:11] <dansaul_apex> Hmm
[19:11] Nick change: dansaul_apex -> danielsaul
[19:12] <Upu> trying Vienna on Globaltuners but can't hear much
[19:12] <Laurenceb_> well we just got >500Km
[19:12] <Laurenceb_> very impressive
[19:12] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[19:13] <Lunar_Lander> as I said he will be here about an hour now
[19:13] <danielsaul> "I could hear it myself like 30 minutes ago, but it was already to weak to decode." @Rene_dev
[19:13] <number10> fsphil-laptop what was dial freq?
[19:13] <Lunar_Lander> maybe someone can be found within the hour that dh1bdl is here
[19:13] <Laurenceb_> heading right for berlin
[19:13] <Lunar_Lander> to take over
[19:14] <Rob_M0DTS> the #tag must be working, another station requested trackers on dx cluster!
[19:14] <Rob_M0DTS> no replies though
[19:14] <ms7821> in german?
[19:14] <Lunar_Lander> the signal is dropping off but still able to decode
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[19:15] <fsphil-laptop> number10, 434.641ish
[19:15] <jcoxon> Good luck
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[19:15] <g0mjw> Put a call out on KST if you want more trackers - but they will need the software...
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[19:16] <Rob_M0DTS> i did mention on kst but only one reply in SP.
[19:16] <griffonbot> @apexhab: @Rene_dev We weren't expecting it to make it over the North Sea from the UK! And we don't really use APRS for tracking balloons here #ukhas [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127825734529069056]
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[19:17] <Lunar_Lander> he will be back in a moment
[19:17] <danielsaul> Keep forgetting to switch between @danielsaul and @apexhab :S Whoops
[19:18] <g0mjw> Rob - SP might be just teh place to be...
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[19:19] <Rob_M0DTS> i aksed him to log teh telem but nothing since.
[19:19] <g0mjw> I am in Geneva....no radios.
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[19:19] <Lunar_Lander> OK people listen
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[19:19] <Lunar_Lander> he can't get back in the chat right now
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[19:20] <Lunar_Lander> I just had this idea
[19:20] <Lunar_Lander> he e-mails me the strings he'd got
[19:20] <Lunar_Lander> and I can paste them to you
[19:20] <Lunar_Lander> what do you think?
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[19:20] <earthshine2> That will work
[19:20] <Laurenceb_> 2IOVIM is getting crazy ranges
[19:21] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,860,19:20:03,5240.0805,01239.3215,36203,09,-54.75,-47.69,3.65*976F
[19:21] <fsphil-laptop> Laurenceb_, global tuners
[19:21] <fsphil-laptop> the radio is in the netherlands
[19:21] <Laurenceb_> oh
[19:21] <dh1bdl> my qth Osnabrueck JO42BI, 19el yagi, Signal S1
[19:21] <Laurenceb_> i see - i was going to say thatd be nearly 900km over the horizon
[19:21] <fsphil-laptop> now that would be something
[19:21] <priyesh> back home
[19:22] <g0mjw> Who is driving the chase vehicle?
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[19:22] Action: AbstractBeliefs waves to eroomde
[19:22] <Laurenceb_> we need some poles :P
[19:22] <earthshine2> g0mjw: it would need to be a chase aircraft
[19:23] <griffonbot> @apexhab: @hjconline Nope, no cameras etc. on board - this was meant to be a shortish launch landing in the North Sea! #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127827489484578816]
[19:23] <Laurenceb_> Lunar_Lander: do you still have the signal?
[19:23] <oop> good luck guys, i'm off
[19:23] <Laurenceb_> as you're the furthest East
[19:24] <danielsaul> g0mjw: What chase vehicle? :P
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[19:24] <Lunar_Lander> laurenceb_ not me but dh1bdl
[19:24] <earthshine2> He's further east but only has an indoor whip
[19:24] <Laurenceb_> ah
[19:24] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,860,19:20:03,5240.0805,01239.3215,36203,09,-54.75,-47.69,3.65*976F
[19:24] <Laurenceb_> well have a chase Mig soon XD
[19:24] <dh1bdl> at 434.641 MHz +500Hz
[19:26] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: got it; uploaded.
[19:26] <RocketBoy> danielsaul: any idea what is the payload weight is?
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[19:26] <costyn> RocketBoy: 300g
[19:26] <RocketBoy> cheers
[19:26] <Laurenceb_> not too far to go to break Darksides distance record
[19:27] <priyesh> less than 300
[19:27] <danielsaul> Yeh, about ~300g - maybe less since we replaced the gps antenna with a much lighter one before launch
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[19:27] <priyesh> maybe 280
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[19:27] <RocketBoy> ah cheers - I'll add it to the flight data on the wiki
[19:27] <Rob_M0DTS> may have tracker in Denmark.. just setting up software
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[19:28] <M0WOJ-Alex_> there was a fair amount of solder on the aerial-may have made it a bit heavier
[19:28] <RocketBoy> :-)
[19:28] <Skunk> how many are tracking at this point?\
[19:28] <benoxley> hi guys
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[19:28] <benoxley> Skunk: 1
[19:29] <Skunk> wasn't there lunar also dumping packets individually?
[19:29] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,868,,,,,,-55.81,-48.06,3.62*C26C
[19:29] <eroomde> badness 10000
[19:29] <benoxley> did gps die?
[19:29] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,869,19:28:11,5238.9745,01254.3860,36180,09,-55.38,-48.13,3.65*A953
[19:29] <M0WOJ-Alex_> theres on etracker in france but thats all at the moment
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[19:30] <eroomde> it might do the gps-about-to-die thing
[19:30] <priyesh> gps!
[19:30] <M0WOJ-Alex_> nearly over Berlin
[19:30] <eroomde> of locks dropping in and out
[19:30] <eroomde> the ratio of locked strongs to unlocked strings decreasing
[19:30] <Lunar_Lander> dh1bdl is receiving M0WOJ-Alex_
[19:30] <eroomde> until it finally dies
[19:30] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: awesome, uploaded
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[19:31] <costyn> amazing... Distance to launch: 872.2km, Flight time: 7 hrs, 50 min, Average speed 30.9m/s http://on.tuu.fi/tesmaus/alpha.php
[19:31] <Skunk> good luck guys, I'm out
[19:31] <Skunk> if I wasnt in canada, I'd be tracking too....
[19:31] <Skunk> ;p
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[19:32] <benoxley> Skunk: you never know,you might be in a few hours
[19:32] <benoxley> :P
[19:32] <M0WOJ-Alex_> do we know how long the batteries are going to last for?
[19:32] <Skunk> :P well, hacked together yagi and an FT-73R may not be up for it
[19:33] <Laurenceb_> wow its cold in there
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[19:33] <Laurenceb_> its 'in' Berlin now i guess
[19:33] <M0WOJ-Alex_> pretty much
[19:33] Nick change: jeff_ -> Guest8642
[19:33] <priyesh> yep
[19:34] <M0WOJ-Alex_> shame we didnt put instructions on the payload that were in polish
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[19:34] <priyesh> they'll translate/know one of them
[19:34] <andrew_apex> M0WOJ-Alex_: Indeed!
[19:34] <danielsaul> We really didnt expect it to make it to poland...
[19:34] <fogger> http://en.copernicus-project.org/ ??
[19:35] <M0WOJ-Alex_> i have to admit i didnt even think it would reach Holland
[19:35] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,875,19:33:47,5238.2220,01304.2437,36202,09,-55.56,-48.31,3.63*E364
[19:35] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: uploaded
[19:36] <priyesh> thanks for the tracking + uploading guys )
[19:36] <priyesh> * :)
[19:36] <fsphil-laptop> still receiving a good signal from .nl
[19:36] <dh1bdl> DanielRichman: tnx; my friend lunar_lander had activated me via telephon ...
[19:36] <fsphil-laptop> faint on the waterfall but decoding fine
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[19:36] <earthshine2> dh1bdl: is a sleeper agent
[19:36] <griffonbot> @sdh7: RT @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/sdh7/status/127830785024720896]
[19:36] <fsphil-laptop> it's great that people are still receiving it
[19:36] <priyesh> yeah
[19:37] <Upu> fsphil-laptop that Global Tuner is going to be out of range soon
[19:37] <fsphil-laptop> very soon yea
[19:37] <earthshine2> Need to change 'Germany' to 'Poland' soon
[19:37] <fsphil-laptop> are there any alternatives?
[19:37] <Upu> checking
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[19:37] <doctorprofessor> I just read the article about the alpha, I can't believe it's gone into berlin.
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[19:38] <fsphil-laptop> neither can we lol
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[19:38] <fsphil-laptop> it's an amazing distance
[19:38] <g0mjw> We could have done with this in 1948
[19:39] <Laurenceb_> never knew there were so many lakes in Berlin
[19:39] <MooseBoost> The battery voltage is dropping fairly rapidly now, i am not sure we are going to be in contact much longer.
[19:39] <AbstractBeliefs> fsphil-laptop: whats the aim of the Apex project? to break an alt. record or something?
[19:39] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,880,19:38:27,5237.7704,01312.2397,36189,10,-55.81,-48.44,3.64*9AC9
[19:39] <mac> it made it from England to Berlin faster than my grandfather...
[19:39] <earthshine2> g0mjw: it would need to be a 100g bomb
[19:39] <howard> congrats to APEX Alpha, desperately seeking tracking from east germany
[19:39] <RocketBoy> I guess I'm the only one not finding this amazing - based on a couple of recent flights we have seen these floaters go all night
[19:39] <dh1bdl> signal becoming weak
[19:39] <danielsaul> AbstractBeliefs: It's a school project
[19:39] <fsphil-laptop> AbstractBeliefs, it was yes. that didn't work out, though they're about to break the distance record for a latex balloon :)
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[19:40] <RocketBoy> and burst in the moning
[19:40] <danielsaul> AbstractBeliefs: THe aim of APEX Alpha was to get an altitude record
[19:40] <danielsaul> if we could
[19:40] <benoxley> Pilna pomoc potrzebna do [ledzenia du|ej wysoko[ci balon na Polska! @ apexhab Pomoc pilnie potrzebne, aby [ledzi balon w Niemczech - # amateurfunk # ukhas # apexalpha - 434.650Mhz1;2c1;2c
[19:40] <g0mjw> 1948 was the Berlin airlift. Food, not bombs
[19:40] <benoxley> 1;2cworth distributing?
[19:40] <AbstractBeliefs> fsphil-laptop, danielsaul: i was going to say, happy surprise nearly-broken record xD
[19:40] <danielsaul> What is the distance record for latex balloon?
[19:40] <doctorprofessor> lol, is there a record for a balloon traveling over multiple continents? lol.
[19:40] <danielsaul> haha
[19:40] <earthshine2> g0mjw: Chocolate bars - one at a time
[19:41] <danielsaul> benoxley: What does that mean....
[19:41] <Laurenceb_> should the battery last?
[19:41] <danielsaul> Probably not
[19:41] <Laurenceb_> does it have enough capacity?
[19:41] <x-f> somebody will notify the UKHAS list?
[19:41] <Laurenceb_> or is the cold killing it?
[19:41] <benoxley> its the origional tweet in polish
[19:41] <howard> Idea - get a plane to Germany NOW!!
[19:41] <danielsaul> howard: Volunteering? :)
[19:42] <howard> Stansted is closeby .... Easyjet?
[19:42] <danielsaul> Sounds good :D
[19:42] <fsphil-laptop> over berlin
[19:42] <earthshine2> howard: Well volunteered
[19:42] <MooseBoost> the arduino inside shouldn't really be able to process with a battery voltage below 3.3V, it is currently at 3.58V
[19:43] <eroomde> that's fine
[19:43] <eroomde> 3.6 in nominal
[19:43] <eroomde> they stay there for a while
[19:43] <howard> Given my useless packet decoding .... not sure I'm right for the job :-)
[19:43] <eroomde> then knife-edge down
[19:43] <howard> And getting the equipment thru security might be fun ...
[19:43] <earthshine2> should have programmed it to go into sleep mode after 5 hours and transmit only every minute
[19:43] <MooseBoost> i think part of the problem is the lwo temp as well, not sure how that will affect the batteyr V
[19:44] <Laurenceb_> what sort of battery?
[19:44] <doctorprofessor> what kind of batteries?
[19:44] <RocketBoy> Aim for Warsaw
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[19:44] <earthshine2> doctorprofessor: Energizer Lithium
[19:44] <Upu> tried a few of the GT in Austria but nada
[19:44] <doctorprofessor> lithium-ion or any other solid core battery should be fine in low temps.
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[19:44] <danielsaul> energizer lithium ultimate ones
[19:44] <Laurenceb_> hmm
[19:44] <Laurenceb_> google the datasheet
[19:45] <doctorprofessor> on it.
[19:45] <eroomde> they are rated to -50 i think
[19:45] <eroomde> they should be ok
[19:45] <eroomde> and the voltage is fine atm
[19:45] <eroomde> it's about to overfly where i was staying in March
[19:45] <benoxley> I reckon the atmega328 will run fine at 2.8v
[19:45] <doctorprofessor> found the datasheet
[19:45] <Dan-K2VOL> http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/lithiuml91l92_appman.pdf Temperature charts for the energizer lithiums on page 4
[19:45] <howard> Tracker says there is a packet from Africa!!!
[19:45] <Laurenceb_> how many cells?
[19:45] <benoxley> just the lassen will die first
[19:45] <Laurenceb_> 3?
[19:46] <eroomde> suspect someone entered their lat/long incorrectly howard
[19:46] <andrew_apex> Laurenceb: yes
[19:46] <eroomde> :)
[19:46] <Dan-K2VOL> 90 ma current draw, correct?
[19:46] <Laurenceb_> what LDO on the lassen?
[19:46] <howard> at least its a packet
[19:46] <eroomde> ah no
[19:46] <Dan-K2VOL> and how often does it transmit? and what's idle current?
[19:46] <eroomde> howard, look at the recieving station in africa
[19:46] <Dan-K2VOL> to determine how many mA it's used already
[19:46] <eroomde> that point off nigeria is very significant
[19:46] <Dan-K2VOL> that's 0,0
[19:47] <g0mjw> That will be 0N, 0E set in the location
[19:47] <doctorprofessor> you'll only be getting half of the performance at -50 C
[19:47] <eroomde> bingo :)
[19:47] <Laurenceb_> its AA?
[19:47] <danielsaul> yeh
[19:47] <howard> understood .... Im learning ...
[19:47] <eroomde> people often reckon their balloon is doing 300000km/hr because it goes from 0,0 to lock in 1s
[19:48] <eroomde> it's a bug that gets everyone at some point!
[19:48] <Laurenceb_> hmm
[19:48] <Laurenceb_> cant tell from the datasheet
[19:48] <danielsaul> It transmits 3 times on 300 baud, then x times on 50 baud then 4 second gap
[19:48] <g0mjw> Is there any particular reason it will burst? Dark - no UV. Cold. Stable altitude.
[19:48] <Laurenceb_> im guessing itll burst a few hours after sunrise
[19:49] <LazyLeopard> twice on 50, when I was tracking.
[19:49] <Laurenceb_> like Darkside did
[19:49] <eroomde> g0mjw: when this has happened before, it's usually made it to sunrise
[19:49] <danielsaul> We did work out idel current... but cant find it
[19:49] <earthshine2> x = 2
[19:49] <priyesh> 3 300 baud, 2 50 baud, 4 second gap
[19:49] <kd5uzz> Did the balloon posted to HAD ever pop?
[19:49] <Laurenceb_> im guessing at least 10 hours life
[19:49] <g0mjw> When is Sunrise at 36km in Warsaw?
[19:49] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,891,19:48:43,5236.2275,01330.3242,36228,09,-55.69,-48.88,3.56*1C55
[19:49] <Laurenceb_> at the absolute minimum at -50C
[19:49] <doctorprofessor> i was thinking the sun is up though.... but then i remembered i'm in the eastern US. lol.
[19:49] <eroomde> kd5uzz: this is that balloon
[19:49] <fsphil-laptop> what's the distance travelled now?
[19:49] <eroomde> http://spacenear.us/tracker/#tabs-ALPHA
[19:50] <eroomde> it's still up. it's got locked into a float as that link shows
[19:50] <eroomde> and it's over berlin
[19:50] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: uploaded
[19:51] <dh1bdl> I was not prepared for this, I have only the standard version of fldigi
[19:51] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: Distance to launch: 910.9km, Flight time: 8 hrs, 9 min, Average speed 31m/s
[19:51] <priyesh> what's everyone's prediction on battery life left?
[19:51] <fsphil-laptop> wow
[19:51] <danielsaul> What is the latex distance record?
[19:51] <priyesh> wow
[19:51] <Laurenceb_> what is the dropout of the LDO you are using?
[19:51] <dh1bdl> Berlin is not my best direction because of local hills, so the signal is weak here
[19:51] <earthshine2> We have 2 receivers now
[19:52] <fsphil-laptop> this global tuners station will be out of range in about 30 minutes I think
[19:52] <danielsaul> Thanks for helping though dh1bdl :)
[19:52] <Laurenceb_> dh1bd1: where are you?
[19:52] <Upu> not much past that fsphil
[19:52] <fsphil-laptop> it's doing amazingly well to receive even this far
[19:52] <dh1bdl> Osnabrueck JO42BI
[19:52] <earthshine2> Who is OZ1SKY ?
[19:52] <howard> I'm amazed at the batteries
[19:52] <dh1bdl> my name is Thomas
[19:52] <Upu> OZ1SKY = Denmark
[19:53] <Upu> evening Thomas and welcome aboard
[19:53] <fsphil-laptop> ooh
[19:53] <fsphil-laptop> nice to meet you dh1bdl :)
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[19:53] <Upu> I think you deserve a QSL card for this
[19:53] <danielsaul> Can we call the german airforce to shoot it down? :)
[19:53] <Laurenceb_> and its out of Berlin :P
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[19:53] <earthshine2> Thanks Thomas ( dh1bdl )
[19:53] <Laurenceb_> Poland soon
[19:53] <MooseBoost> what would be cool, is if the battery dropped below 3.3V due to the temp. this would mean that there would be much less current draw and then when it becomes morning it would heat up and turn on again.
[19:53] <MooseBoost> but that wont happen
[19:53] <Laurenceb_> maybe...
[19:54] <eroomde> ok. we need poles and ukranians
[19:54] <eroomde> sadly all the pole
[19:54] <dodgy> was wondering when it will hit sunrise somewhere, so the battery can warm up
[19:54] <eroomde> poles* are in england
[19:54] <Laurenceb_> lassen iq is what.. 30ma?
[19:54] <Upu> haha
[19:54] <danielsaul> eroomde: haha
[19:54] <Laurenceb_> lol
[19:54] <g0mjw> If it lasts 10 hours we are looking at 1000km further East
[19:54] <earthshine2> eroomde: lol
[19:54] <Upu> someone needs to get on HF and see if they can make some contact with Poland
[19:54] <eroomde> yes
[19:54] <radicalbiscuit> how is it still flying? :D I'm flabberghasted
[19:54] <eroomde> HF nets are the way to spread the message i think
[19:54] <fsphil-laptop> radicalbiscuit, I love that word :) and I am too
[19:54] <Laurenceb_> total current has got to be ~100ma right?
[19:54] <eroomde> as someone said on #hamradio, everyone at this time of day is not on irc but on hf
[19:55] <Upu> I don't have any HF ability
[19:55] <radicalbiscuit> flabbergasted*
[19:55] <grummund> Hi, is anyone here on the lookout for Rosat?
[19:55] <eroomde> me neither
[19:55] <doctorprofessor> it's acsending at 0.7m/s now.
[19:55] <radicalbiscuit> I was listening to it early this morning when it was launched
[19:55] <Laurenceb_> hopefully Rosat will hit it
[19:55] <eroomde> grummund: nope, we're all trying to track the balloon that refuses to burst
[19:55] <M0WOJ-Alex_> i would if my aerial wasnt non functional. sorry guys
[19:55] <g0mjw> No HF operators are pretty much exclusively not on 430MHz
[19:55] <fogger> These guys have launched balloons in Poland. But I can't find a contact on the site. http://en.copernicus-project.org/
[19:55] <eroomde> which is charging towards poland, having just overflown berlin, having been launched from cambridge earlier today
[19:55] <doctorprofessor> that is just incredible.
[19:56] <radicalbiscuit> fogger: maybe we can look up the whois information
[19:56] <grummund> eroomde: hey, cool. long distance record then?
[19:56] <earthshine2> We need someone in Frankfurt
[19:56] <eroomde> grummund: for a launch from the uk, i think so
[19:56] <kd5uzz> I see the packet downlink info, any command/control for manual cutdown or alt tracking (DFing, etc)?
[19:56] <earthshine2> kd5uzz: no
[19:56] <MooseBoost> someone posted on the amature radio subreddit asking for east europe people.
[19:57] <Rob_M0DTS> OZ1SKY in denmark is now tracking
[19:57] <earthshine2> Is he in this channel ?
[19:57] <Upu> hey Rob can you do HF and make some contacts in Poland ?
[19:58] <fsphil-laptop> is it dropping faster?
[19:58] <earthshine2> fsphil-laptop: seems to be
[19:58] <radicalbiscuit> Info for copernicus-project.org: Registrant Name:Maciej Jakimiec ((dmrx010000345889)) Registrant Organization:Maciej Jakimiec ((dmrx010000345889)) Registrant Street1:Kozacka 9C / 37 Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Torun Registrant State/Province: Registrant Postal Code:87-100 Registrant Country:PL Registrant Phone:+48.660426336 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX: Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant
[19:58] <doctorprofessor> it was almost 1m/s there.
[19:58] <earthshine2> Call that number - get them out of bed
[19:58] <Rob_M0DTS> Upu: HF.. whats that.?! i only do LF and VHF -SHF...hi
[19:59] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,901,19:58:03,5235.3095,01347.0877,36227,11,-56.13,-49.25,3.58*BD1A
[19:59] <Upu> ok Rob :)
[19:59] <fogger> They do have a facebook page
[19:59] <radicalbiscuit> I speak *no* Polish :P
[19:59] <dh1bdl> but this time only one of two transmissions ok, I m sorry now signal is going too weak
[19:59] <danielsaul> Ok, thanks dh1bdl
[19:59] <earthshine2> It's ascending
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[20:00] <fsphil-laptop> just an oscillation
[20:00] <fsphil-laptop> hi OZ1SKY
[20:00] <earthshine2> Welcome OZ1SKY
[20:00] <OZ1SKY> hello
[20:00] <radicalbiscuit> hello OZ1SKY
[20:00] <radicalbiscuit> You are a celebrity now.
[20:00] <Upu> hey OZ1SKY welcome aboard :)
[20:00] <fsphil-laptop> -56c outside now
[20:00] <fsphil-laptop> nippy
[20:00] <danielsaul> hello OZ1SKY
[20:00] <earthshine2> OZ1SKY: How is your signal strength ?
[20:00] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,903,19:59:55,5235.0731,01350.4647,36264,10,-56.25,-49.25,3.57*8EEA
[20:01] <dh1bdl> this time ok
[20:01] <OZ1SKY> got it about S6 right now
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[20:01] <danielsaul> lol - someone has asked @stephenfry to give us a retweet
[20:01] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[20:01] <earthshine2> Damned good idea
[20:01] <MooseBoost> How is there a person off the ivory coast tracking it?
[20:01] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: uploaded
[20:01] <earthshine2> MooseBoost: Wrong lat/long
[20:01] <eroomde> MooseBoost: 0N 0W
[20:01] <Upu> MooseBoost they have their location set to 0,0
[20:01] <eroomde> they didn't entier their coordinates properly
[20:01] <Upu> so we need some polish people
[20:01] <MooseBoost> ah, i was thinking
[20:02] <MooseBoost> they still have a link though i think.
[20:02] <earthshine2> Yeah but they are not decoding strings
[20:02] <MooseBoost> or is that a mistake as well?
[20:02] <MooseBoost> damn
[20:02] <earthshine2> Only OZ1SKY is at the moment
[20:02] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,905,20:01:47,5234.8765,01353.8751,36225,10,-55.63,-49.31,3.57*5E1C
[20:03] <earthshine2> MooseBoost: It just means they have fl-digi online
[20:03] <Lunar_Lander> earthshine : and dh1bdl
[20:03] <dh1bdl> two times the same text
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[20:03] <earthshine2> Lunar_Lander: Yeah and dh1bdl too
[20:03] <Laurenceb_> can anyone cut off the altitude graph at the point it entered float?
[20:03] <fsphil-laptop> a binary protocol would be handy too
[20:03] <earthshine2> GPS died?
[20:03] <fsphil-laptop> with some error correction
[20:03] <OZ1SKY> whats the lat/lon format i need to put in to get on the map?
[20:03] <earthshine2> OZ1SKY: Digital
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[20:04] <Rob_M0DTS> decimal degrees
[20:04] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,907,20:03:39,5234.6723,01357.3547,36237,10,-55.81,-49.44,3.52*7CF9
[20:05] <g0mjw> Dead battery?
[20:05] <earthshine2> oops - i meant decimal - brain fart
[20:05] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: uploaded
[20:05] <LazyLeopard> Decimal degrees usually works.Going from QRZ, 56.267 10.309 should do fine.
[20:05] <OZ1SKY> typed in 56.268N 10.314E nothing happend
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[20:05] <DanielRichman> drop the N and E
[20:05] <earthshine2> delete the N and E
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[20:05] <DanielRichman> also, it takes a few minutes for the receiver position to update
[20:06] <OZ1SKY> ok did that
[20:06] Nick change: Mat__ -> Guest17402
[20:06] <DanielRichman> it's cached, and I don't know how often/if the spacnear.us JS updates it
[20:06] <fsphil-laptop> it might be quicker to restart dl-fldigi to get the position updated
[20:06] <DanielRichman> so refresh in ~10 mins and you should be there
[20:06] <fsphil-laptop> DanielRichman, might be worth uploading it as it changes?
[20:06] <DanielRichman> that too, dl-fldigi doesn't upload it constantly (new one will do)
[20:06] <Laurenceb_> needs better insulation to keep it warmer in there
[20:06] <DanielRichman> fsphil-laptop: already implemented
[20:06] <fsphil-laptop> oh way ahead of me :)
[20:06] <DanielRichman> fsphil-laptop: see src/dl_fldigi/dl_fldigi.cxx:dirty & commit
[20:06] <fsphil-laptop> are your changes stable and working? I fancy trying them
[20:06] <DanielRichman> yes they are stable
[20:06] <DanielRichman> added autoconfiguring yesterday
[20:06] <DanielRichman> it's nearly ready ;-)
[20:07] <fsphil-laptop> I'll give it a spin tomorrow
[20:07] <benoxley> Laurenceb_: It's in a sealed polystyrene box 1 inch thick
[20:07] <DanielRichman> NB: default couch_uri is http://habhub.org, you will need to change this to habitat.habhub.org
[20:07] <MooseBoost> where is OZ1SKY located?
[20:07] <benoxley> withouth on-board heating it would be hard to keep it more insulated!
[20:07] <DanielRichman> I think when we 'deploy' for real we'll change it
[20:07] <doctorprofessor> i have some other things to tend to, you guys have a website? i want to know how this turns out.
[20:07] <earthshine2> benoxley: yeah but its -56 outside
[20:07] <earthshine2> doctorprofessor: UKHAS
[20:07] <earthshine2> its at the top
[20:07] <OZ1SKY> Im in Denmark
[20:08] <DanielRichman> doctorprofessor: spacenear.us, ukhas.org.uk, habhub.org, http://groups.google.com/group/ukhas
[20:08] <OZ1SKY> Near Aarhus
[20:08] <doctorprofessor> thanks. good luck guys!
[20:08] <fogger> I found the callsign of the guy that runs the polish site. SP2SGF I don't know if that will help though.
[20:08] <andrew_apex> doctorprofessor: and www.apexhab.org
[20:08] <DanielRichman> ah, of course ;-)
[20:08] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,911,20:07:23,5234.3510,01404.4127,36313,09,-55.69,-49.56,3.59*D905
[20:08] <dh1bdl> very weak but same text
[20:08] <fsphil-laptop> very faint here
[20:08] <benoxley> going to hit the border soon!
[20:08] <howard> dh1bd1 thx
[20:09] <howard> nice
[20:09] <MooseBoost> OZ1SKY: will you be ou of range quite soon then?
[20:09] <OZ1SKY> I reloaded the software, but didnt get on the map
[20:09] <RocketBoy> based on current progress east it will be just into Russia at sunrise - which is when it will probably burst
[20:09] <fsphil-laptop> okie, I'm going to loose the signal in .nl shortly
[20:09] <fsphil-laptop> starting to loose characters
[20:09] <danielsaul> Are the russians kind? do they send stuff back?
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[20:09] <Upu> well I sent a message to the Copernicous guys Youtube channel
[20:10] <DanielRichman> fsphil-laptop: also, when you try it out, ... well I've had to leave the default dl fldigi logging level at INFO rather than DEBUG because it races and crashes/there's no locking
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[20:10] <DanielRichman> but if you switch it over to DEBUG level via the log viewer (in one of the menus) then you get a lot more fun info about what's going on
[20:10] <OZ1SKY> MooseBoost: no im near Aarhus in Denmark, still well inside the ring
[20:10] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,913,20:09:15,5234.2819,01407.9432,36219,10,-56.19,-49.63,3.5*007F
[20:10] <RocketBoy> more importantly do they allow radio transmission on 434MHz
[20:10] <DanielRichman> also you will need to git submodule update after cloning my branch
[20:10] <earthshine2> danielsaul: they will turn it into some kind of farming implement
[20:10] <DanielRichman> to pull in the habitat_extensions directory
[20:10] <jonsowman> hi all
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[20:10] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: uploaded
[20:11] <danielsaul> RocketBoy: If not, tough. lol
[20:11] <priyesh> hi jonsowman
[20:11] <priyesh> jonsowman: poland!
[20:11] <benoxley> poland!
[20:11] <earthshine2> nearly
[20:11] <jonsowman> blimey
[20:11] <eroomde> warsaw here we come
[20:12] <earthshine2> Not quite but its close
[20:12] <Lunar_Lander> RocketBoy : I think 434MHz is european
[20:12] <M0WOJ-Alex> shouldnt be too long now
[20:12] <RocketBoy> danielsaul: tough on them year - but somthing to be avapided
[20:12] <RocketBoy> yeah - when was ruussia in the EU
[20:12] <M0WOJ-Alex> seems to be heading towards Posnan
[20:12] <griffonbot> @adamcudworth: RT @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/adamcudworth/status/127839810734919680]
[20:12] <M0WOJ-Alex> Poznan, sorry
[20:12] <fogger> 434mhz is considered a worldwide ism band.
[20:13] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[20:13] <Randomskk> hahaha it's still up?!
[20:13] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,916,20:12:03,5234.0934,01413.0414,36315,10,-56.25,-49.75,3.52*532F
[20:13] <Randomskk> wow
[20:13] <OZ1SKY> Can´t get the location to work, i typed in the location, but nothing happend
[20:13] <Laurenceb_> 960Km great circle
[20:13] <priyesh> Randomskk: yeah
[20:13] <priyesh> )
[20:13] <priyesh> :)
[20:13] <M0WOJ-Alex> tried to get the altitude record, but ended up with the next best thing
[20:14] <OZ1SKY> Im all new to this software, just DL it
[20:14] <benoxley> hi Randomskk
[20:14] <earthshine2> OZ1SKY: It did work - you are on there
[20:14] <g0mjw> don't forget the refraction
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[20:14] <Randomskk> yo benoxley
[20:14] <Hiena> Send 500 km south, and i'll recovery.
[20:14] <OZ1SKY> earthshine2: lol yeah i see it now
[20:14] <griffonbot> @apexhab: #apexhab Alpha Balloon nearly into Poland - still need trackers in Eastern Europe if possible #ukhas #apexhab #amateurradio [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127840266131484672]
[20:14] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: #apexhab Alpha Balloon nearly into Poland - still need trackers in Eastern Europe if possible #ukhas #apexhab #amateurradio [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/127840268463521792]
[20:14] <Randomskk> wow DUTCH-MILL is on the 0 degree horizon
[20:14] <Randomskk> that's a rare sight
[20:14] <Randomskk> well from this direction
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:14] <benoxley> going to have to catch the coach now, will have to try and scrounge on-board wifi
[20:14] <benoxley> back in a bit (hopefully!)
[20:15] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,918,20:13:55,5233.9444,01416.5186,36223,10,-55.69,-49.81,3.57*91E9
[20:15] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: uploaded.
[20:15] <OZ1SKY> Is it on any other freq or just 434?
[20:15] <earthshine2> OZ1SKY: Just 434
[20:16] <OZ1SKY> earthshine2: ok tnx
[20:16] <griffonbot> @apexhab: @stephenfry #apexhab Alpha Balloon nearly into Poland from Cambridge; still need trackers in Eastern Europe if possible #ukhas #amateurradio [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127840772249755648]
[20:16] <fsphil-laptop> I think that's it from the .nl station
[20:16] <Dan-K2VOL> ok yeah I finally remember the glitch with the tracker, it wasn't horizon circle changing from pole to equator, it was that the horizon circle changes when you drag the map from the top of the browser window to the bottom
[20:17] <eroomde> i'm sure he'll be delighted to know
[20:17] <fsphil-laptop> Dan-K2VOL, yea that's annoying :)
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[20:17] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,921,20:16:43,5233.5694,01421.7454,36296,10,-55.69,-49.94,3.57*9389
[20:18] <M0WOJ-Alex> nearly in poland. some of the towns in germany are sounding polish now
[20:18] <Zuph> Should have put some Polish on the payload as well :-p
[20:18] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: uploaded
[20:18] <RocketBoy> russian
[20:18] <andrew_apex> Zuph: Hopefully they'll understand German :P
[20:18] <M0WOJ-Alex> We didnt expect it to stay up for this long. It was questionable it would even reach Holland
[20:18] <costyn> Zuph: they weren't even expecting it to reach Holland :)
[20:18] <dg0caw> hey hey.. polish side was germany ago a few time..
[20:18] Nick change: dg0caw -> DG0CAW
[20:19] <Zuph> I know :-p
[20:19] <fsphil-laptop> hehe, got a little stronger on the .nl station, decoding again
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> approaching poland
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[20:19] <costyn> Distance to launch: 971km, Flight time: 8 hrs, 38 min, Average speed 31.2m/s
[20:19] <earthshine2> What was the previous record ?
[20:19] <Zuph> Dan-K2VOL: Maybe we should just switch back to good 'ole latex :-p
[20:19] <costyn> (from http://on.tuu.fi/tesmaus/alpha.php )
[20:19] <fsphil-laptop> lol Zuph
[20:19] <Dan-K2VOL> hehe
[20:20] <earthshine2> Battery 3.5v
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[20:20] <eroomde> hrm
[20:20] <eroomde> that's below nominal
[20:20] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,924,20:19:31,5233.2963,01426.9336,36232,09,-56.00,-50.06,3.53*A660
[20:20] <dh1bdl> not sure
[20:20] <eroomde> but could just be a temperature thing
[20:20] <costyn> never knew there's 2 Frankfurt's in Germany hehe
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> yeah :P
[20:21] <RocketBoy> earthshine: record is 3,300miles IIRC
[20:21] <costyn> pfff... just hit a cold spot there
[20:21] <Randomskk> there are a ton of people in here
[20:21] <daveake> -50 will drop the voltage a lot
[20:21] <Dan-K2VOL> hello ton
[20:21] <eroomde> yeah 120
[20:21] <fsphil-laptop> wow
[20:21] <priyesh> when is sunrise at 36 km in poland
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[20:21] <priyesh> 121
[20:21] <fsphil-laptop> not for a long time
[20:21] <Dan-K2VOL> lots of tweeting of the chatroom went on
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:22] <DG0CAW> what was the plan for alpha? to crash into the north sea?
[20:22] <danielsaul> DG0CAW: Yep
[20:22] <RocketBoy> sunrise is about 5:15GMT in poland
[20:22] <DG0CAW> okay
[20:22] <priyesh> pretty much
[20:22] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,926,20:21:23,5233.1734,01430.3853,36219,10,-56.38,-50.13,3.53*A200
[20:22] <M0WOJ-Alex> or to land in Holland
[20:22] <DG0CAW> okay
[20:22] <RocketBoy> and about 5:30 just into russia
[20:22] <DG0CAW> it seems alpha will fly till russia ! :-)
[20:23] <RocketBoy> yeah I already said that
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[20:23] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: uploaded.
[20:23] <earthshine2> It certainly looks like it is happy up there - the battery will die well before the balloon comes down
[20:24] <OZ1SKY> whats the data in between ther rtty?
[20:24] <griffonbot> @HackHitchin: RT @apexhab: Help desperately needed to track balloon in Germany - #amateurfunk #ukhas #apexalpha - 434.650Mhz [http://twitter.com/HackHitchin/status/127842695057117185]
[20:24] <M0WOJ-Alex> Belarus is probably more realistic
[20:24] <Rob_M0DTS> it's 300baud rtty
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[20:24] <dh1bdl> $$ALPHA,928,20:23:15,5233.0434,01433.8029,36295,09,-56.69,-50.19,3.56*69FA
[20:24] <fsphil-laptop> shift is now 290hz
[20:24] <fsphil-laptop> for the 50 baud stream
[20:24] <eroomde> ok lets put money on the nearest capital city to anding
[20:24] <eroomde> a pint on Kiev
[20:24] <earthshine2> 10 more minutes and it will be in Poland
[20:24] <OZ1SKY> Rob_M0DTS: ok same data as in the rtty 50baud?
[20:24] <fsphil-laptop> altitude going up
[20:24] <fsphil-laptop> 36.3km
[20:25] <Rob_M0DTS> OZ1SKY, yes same data
[20:25] <DG0CAW> i posted it in a german ham radio forum http://forum.db3om.de/ftopic14675.html
[20:25] <danielsaul> DG0CAW: thanks
[20:25] <Randomskk> eroomde: I reckon last telem closest to warsaw
[20:25] <fsphil-laptop> .. and going down again
[20:25] <Laurenceb_> Witamy w Polsce!
[20:26] <OZ1SKY> Rob_M0DTS: thanks
[20:26] <M0WOJ-Alex> and its good evening Poland!
[20:26] <earthshine2> Hello POland !!
[20:26] <andrew_apex> Laurenceb: :D
[20:26] <fsphil-laptop> dial frequency is now 434.640
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> dh1bdl : do you still have signal?
[20:26] <eroomde> this is quite an efficient way to avoid customs
[20:26] <earthshine2> eroomde: lol
[20:26] <jonsowman> haha
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> btw DG0CAW it's running in USB
[20:26] <priyesh> eroomde: that's our motive
[20:26] <Randomskk> eroomde: fcvo "efficient"
[20:26] <Upu> if a tad in accurate eroomde
[20:26] <Randomskk> though you could carry a few kg
[20:26] <earthshine2> No customs between the EU countries anyway
[20:26] <DG0CAW> ah okay.
[20:26] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: http://habitat.habhub.org/transition/ will let you post data yourself. Under 'payload_telemetry', put DH1DBL in the callsign box, and the text in the String box. Leave metadata and time created as default, though you will want to upload close to the time or time created (which defaults to 'now') will be wrong
[20:27] <priyesh> POLAND?
[20:27] <earthshine2> priyesh: yep
[20:27] <fsphil-laptop> priyesh, that's the place :)
[20:27] <howard> UNBELIEVABLE!!
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[20:27] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: it will always say 'OK' on the next page, though, so you will need to check spacenear.us to see if your data has gone through
[20:27] <jonsowman> i'm astonished
[20:27] <earthshine2> priyesh: About 3km into Poland
[20:27] <jonsowman> never thought it'd get that far
[20:27] <benoxley> coach win :D
[20:27] <jonsowman> hi benoxley
[20:27] <griffonbot> @apexhab: #apexhab Alpha has reached Poland! Need help tracking. #highalitutde on freenode IRC #ukhas #amateurradio [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127843620794531841]
[20:27] <benoxley> poland!!!
[20:27] <M0WOJ-Alex> have we broken any records yet?
[20:27] <eroomde> has stephen fry done a call to arms yet?
[20:27] <priyesh> not yet
[20:28] <priyesh> i hope he does :P
[20:28] <RocketBoy> why is everyone astonished given the Houras flights?
[20:28] <dh1bdl> Ok, Daniel, but I think it is going to an end now the signal isvery weak
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[20:28] <Laurenceb_> twitter, the natural habitat of the Steven Fry
[20:28] <danielsaul> lol
[20:28] <jonsowman> Laurenceb_: lol
[20:28] <DanielRichman> dh1bdl: okay, that's cool
[20:28] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: RT @apexhab: #apexhab Alpha has reached Poland! Need help tracking. #highalitutde on freenode IRC #ukhas #amateurradio [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/127843832405569537]
[20:28] <naesk> Hi guys, saw the post on Hack-a-Day site and have posted a request for HAMs on Diaspora social network
[20:28] <OZ1SKY> Have to go for ½hour, will leave the rx on
[20:28] <dh1bdl> congratiulation for your very good balloon flight!
[20:28] <priyesh> thanks naesk
[20:29] <priyesh> thanks dh1bdl for all the help!
[20:29] <Lunar_Lander> and thanks dh1bdl!!!
[20:29] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:29] <fsphil-laptop> yes good job dh1bdl
[20:29] <priyesh> 99km
[20:29] <priyesh> * 990km
[20:29] <Rob_M0DTS> what is the expected battery life?
[20:29] <andrew_apex> dh1bdl: you've been awesome :D
[20:29] <priyesh> nearly 1000km
[20:29] <dh1bdl> very much fun! next time I will have installed the "right" version of fldigi...
[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:30] <danielsaul> dh1bdl: Haha - thanks a lot for your helo dh1bdl
[20:30] <danielsaul> *help
[20:30] <jonsowman> dh1bdl: perhaps sign up to the mailing list? http://groups.google.com/group/ukhas
[20:30] <daveake> Further east it goes, earlier the sun will come up to give those batteries a boost!
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[20:30] <costyn> daveake: still a long night tho...
[20:30] <RocketBoy> and burst the balloon
[20:30] <dh1bdl> now I can no more hear the signal
[20:30] <dh1bdl> good luck cuagn!
[20:31] <daveake> Indeed RocketBoy
[20:31] <andrew_apex> daveake: true - hopefully it will make it until then
[20:31] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: is 2I0VIM still you on the global receiver?
[20:31] <griffonbot> @TheArduinoGuy: RT @apexhab: #apexhab Alpha has reached Poland! Need help tracking. #highalitutde on freenode IRC #ukhas #amateurradio [http://twitter.com/TheArduinoGuy/status/127844542895489024]
[20:31] <Upu> well unless you can find a reciever in Poland I'd guess you have about 30 mins left
[20:31] <fsphil-laptop> costyn, indeed. but not for much longer I don't think. it's already past when I thought it would stop :)
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[20:31] <priyesh> can people retweet the stephen fry tweet!
[20:32] <danielsaul> Does stephen fry have polish followers? :S
[20:32] <priyesh> :S
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[20:32] <eroomde> his cleaner
[20:32] <jonsowman> haha
[20:32] <Upu> lol
[20:32] <earthshine2> lol
[20:32] <charlie> this is cool!
[20:32] <priyesh> 998km
[20:32] <charlie> IM IN USA
[20:32] <fsphil-laptop> hiya charlie
[20:33] <charlie> listening to the data over my police scanner
[20:33] <earthshine2> Battery is going back up again
[20:33] <charlie> i just saw this posted to www.hackaday.com
[20:33] <priyesh> hi charlie
[20:33] <earthshine2> Welcome charlie
[20:33] <Upu> hey Charlie
[20:33] <charlie> hi!
[20:33] <fsphil-laptop> -50c inside the payload box?
[20:33] <charlie> thanks
[20:33] <Upu> shame you're not in poland
[20:33] <andrew_apex> fsphil-laptop: yup
[20:33] <priyesh> 999.9km
[20:33] <fsphil-laptop> brrrr!
[20:33] <andrew_apex> glad i'm not up there :D
[20:33] <charlie> i dont have the means to interppert the "beeps"
[20:34] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: unimaginably cold
[20:34] <danielsaul> charlie: You shouldnt be able to hear it in the US...
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[20:34] <costyn> priyesh: 1000KM... congrats :)
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[20:34] <Tay> Congrats!:-)
[20:34] <charlie> i hear really faint beeps
[20:34] <Upu> must be local charlie
[20:34] <griffonbot> @DiJuM: RT @apexhab: #apexhab Alpha has reached Poland! Need help tracking. #highalitutde on freenode IRC #ukhas #amateurradio [http://twitter.com/DiJuM/status/127845318657196032]
[20:34] <griffonbot> @b3noxley: RT @apexhab: #apexhab Alpha has reached Poland! Need help tracking. #highalitutde on freenode IRC #ukhas #amateurradio [http://twitter.com/b3noxley/status/127845346050179072]
[20:34] <priyesh> 1000km!
[20:34] <earthshine2> I don't see it on Hackaday at all
[20:34] <priyesh> omg
[20:34] <M0WOJ-Alex> 1000km and i was one of the people holding that this morning :) what a day
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[20:34] <Upu> http://hackaday.com/2011/10/21/going-for-the-amateur-balloon-altitude-record/#comments
[20:34] <howard> looks like Denmark is our lifeline at the moment ...
[20:34] <danielsaul> earthshine2: Down a few posts
[20:34] <danielsaul> It was on ther eyesterday
[20:35] Action: fsphil-laptop slaps priyesh ... cause I probably won't get much sleep tonight ;)
[20:35] <fsphil-laptop> unless the battery runs out
[20:35] <danielsaul> haha
[20:35] Nick change: DG0CAW_ -> DG0CAW
[20:35] <priyesh> i'm sorry fsphil-laptop
[20:35] <steve|m> just tried it with my funcube dongle in germany with a DVB-T antenna and reflector, but no luck :( shame I have no good antenna for this
[20:35] <eroomde> any polish globaltuners?
[20:35] <Upu> cheers for trying steve
[20:35] <Upu> negative eroomde
[20:35] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: maybe try a receiver in Slovakia?
[20:35] <RocketBoy> Can someone *think* if this a good flight to publicise before any publicity please
[20:35] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: on the global thingy?
[20:36] <jonsowman> RocketBoy: it's probably too late
[20:36] <fsphil-laptop> costyn, soon as I loose the signal in .nl I'll try another station
[20:36] <GW8RAK> If it continues to float and eventually gets lost in Russia, it's a bit of an open ended story. Not much to tell
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[20:36] <RocketBoy> jonsowman: in what sense?
[20:37] <jonsowman> it's already had a lot of publicity
[20:37] <Laurenceb_> over 1000Km great circle now
[20:37] <GW8RAK> Really nees and ending
[20:37] <jonsowman> hackaday et al
[20:37] <jonsowman> brb
[20:37] <GW8RAK> needs
[20:37] <DG0CAW> what is the lowest voltage for operating ?
[20:37] <andrew_apex> DG0CAW: probably around 3.4v the GPS might start having issues
[20:37] <DG0CAW> okay
[20:37] <howard> That Stansted flight to Warsaw looking more attractive
[20:37] <Laurenceb_> im guessing its mostly the cold
[20:37] <Laurenceb_> i doubt the batteries are exhausted
[20:37] <GW8RAK> Go for it Howard
[20:37] <daveake> Nope
[20:38] <radicalbiscuit> Any given eastern european could make themselves quit a star just by turning on their radio right now and sharing the results with us :D
[20:38] <Laurenceb_> 1010Km great circle, 300Km to beat Darkside
[20:39] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[20:39] <mac> RocketBoy: I'm the guy who wrote the Hackaday post on this launch. The Apex team is going to email me when they lose contact/it lands, so *hopefully* they'll get their payload back
[20:40] <M0WOJ-Alex> depends if the person in Eastern Europe who finds it can speak english french dutch or german
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[20:40] <daveake> Or Russian
[20:41] <Lunar_Lander> is natrium42 here?
[20:41] <mac> I'm just hoping it lands before contact is lost. It's pretty simple to get a hold of a random local newspaper in Poland, surprisingly
[20:41] <danielsaul> daveake: We dont have russian on the payload :P only english, french, dutch and german
[20:41] <daveake> Silly oversight ;)
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[20:41] <M0WOJ-Alex> danielsaul: next time we should include at least one cyrillic language on the payload
[20:42] <earthshine2> Did you put contact details INSIDE the payload too?
[20:42] <danielsaul> Ummmm
[20:42] <M0WOJ-Alex> Just on the outside
[20:42] <danielsaul> No....
[20:42] <andrew_apex> earthshine: no...
[20:42] <danielsaul> Considering we thought it would end up in the northsea
[20:42] <DG0CAW> hehe
[20:42] <earthshine2> If a payload sits for a long time before being found anything on the outside may have been washed off or faded away
[20:42] <earthshine2> True
[20:43] <andrew_apex> earthshine: although It's really hard to open - it's fully sealed and the lid is glued on with silicon sealant
[20:43] <danielsaul> We have a better chance of getting it back now than if the original predicition had been correct :P
[20:43] <dh1bdl> now I have definitively no more signal nor audi nor in the waterfall
[20:43] <mac> please tell me you put the whole thing in a plastic bag?
[20:43] <benoxley> its got a sticker on the lassen :D
[20:43] <andrew_apex> the outside labels are laminated, so should be ok for a while
[20:43] <dh1bdl> so I wish you good night now see you again good luck!
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[20:43] <fsphil-laptop> night dh1bdl
[20:43] <andrew_apex> dh1bdl: thanks again for your help
[20:43] <DG0CAW> nacht dh1bdl
[20:43] <Lunar_Lander> good night and thanks dh1bdl!!!
[20:43] <eroomde> dh1bdl: you help has been superb. thanks
[20:43] <earthshine2> danielsaul: Not necessarily - some parts of russia are pretty desolate
[20:43] <number10> good night dh1bdl
[20:43] <howard> dh1bd1 - THANKS!!
[20:44] <priyesh> dh1bdl: thanks!
[20:44] <jonsowman> thank you dh1bdl
[20:44] <M0WOJ-Alex> so we have no trackers now then?
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[20:44] <benoxley> we have OZ1SKY
[20:44] <earthshine2> Danke dh1bdl
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[20:45] <M0WOJ-Alex> sorry, of course got confused there
[20:45] <benoxley> (who is my personal hero right now)
[20:45] <dh1bdl> It was a pleasure!
[20:45] <DG0CAW> next time you should try it with aprs on 144.8 mhz
[20:45] <andrew_apex> From maxim's website on the DS18B20: Measures Temperatures from -55°C to +125°C
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[20:45] <andrew_apex> external temp is currently -57
[20:45] <andrew_apex> how?
[20:45] <priyesh> is arhab broken?
[20:45] <kjkjhkhkjhk> I'm sure this has been asked already, but I'm late to the party: how long do you guys think the battery is going to last for?
[20:45] <earthshine2> DG0CAW: Not legal to transmit on the freq
[20:45] <priyesh> andrew_apex: i don't know :S
[20:46] <priyesh> andrew_apex: i only tested it to how cold my freezer was
[20:46] <DG0CAW> mmh okay
[20:46] <earthshine2> andrew_apex: Sometimes components work beyond their range
[20:46] <Upu> kjkjhkhkjhk should be 24 hours or more
[20:46] <mac> 1026 km right now... what's the record?
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[20:46] <fsphil-laptop> 1200km I think
[20:47] <M0WOJ-Alex> so are we looking at Belarus then? or is russia reasonable
[20:47] <earthshine2> 1310?
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[20:47] <M0WOJ-Alex> the altitude has been going up and down for 5 hours now. didnt expect that
[20:47] <benoxley> Distance to launch: 1027.8km, Flight time: 9 hrs, 6 min, Average speed 31.3m/s
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[20:47] <Zuph> The Amateur distance record is 3300 miles
[20:48] <mac> not for a latex balloon
[20:48] <earthshine2> World record yes
[20:48] <earthshine2> mac: exactly
[20:48] <Upu> worth posting on qrz.com ?
[20:48] <howard> really need more tracking now, getting desperate .... any ideas?
[20:48] <GW8RAK> earthshine2, do you know what the regs are for a reciprocal licence? Could a full licence holder use APRS airborne in Europe?
[20:48] <Zuph> I think the latex record is on the order of 1400 miles.
[20:48] <earthshine2> No I don't think so
[20:49] <GW8RAK> For reciprocal licence, which regs take precedence? Home or away regs?
[20:49] <M0WOJ-Alex> does anyone have a functional hf rig they could contact eastern europe on?
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[20:49] <M0WOJ-Alex> Away regs are usually used
[20:49] <RocketBoy> GW8RAK: depends where in europe - not inside the UK teratorial waters - but in other european counties yes
[20:50] <benoxley> has anoyone tried the slovakia globaltuners?
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[20:50] <fsphil-laptop> gps died
[20:50] <fsphil-laptop> that last string had no coordinates
[20:50] <danielsaul> :S
[20:50] <eroomde> consistantly or just the last string?
[20:50] <daveake> oops
[20:50] <earthshine2> :(
[20:50] <M0WOJ-Alex> You have to follow the regs of the countries your in not the rules of your own country
[20:50] <fsphil-laptop> and again
[20:50] <fsphil-laptop> just temperature and voltage
[20:50] <GW8RAK> That's what I'm wondering. If a payload was going into Europe, would a programmable tx module like jcoxon was talking about change from our RTTY to APRS?
[20:50] <andrew_apex> sounds like GPS has gone
[20:50] <andrew_apex> what's the voltage?
[20:50] <fsphil-laptop> 3.55
[20:50] <eroomde> on ballasthelo a couple of years back we would have 5/6/7 dropped gps strings in a row
[20:50] <fsphil-laptop> fine
[20:50] <earthshine2> 5.52
[20:50] <danielsaul> No... :(
[20:50] <earthshine2> 3.52
[20:50] <eroomde> but an occassional fix
[20:51] <danielsaul> ok
[20:51] <fsphil-laptop> it's back
[20:51] <fsphil-laptop> another fix
[20:51] <charlie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polski_Zwi%C4%85zek_Kr%C3%B3tkofalowc%C3%B3w
[20:51] <benoxley> :D
[20:51] <M0WOJ-Alex> bit scary there
[20:51] <fsphil-laptop> er
[20:51] <fsphil-laptop> it's wrong
[20:51] <andrew_apex> I'd have though GPS would be ok at 3.55v, but it sounds as though it might be starting to go
[20:51] <Laurenceb_> erm
[20:51] <Lunar_Lander> GW8RAK : wouldn't you also have to switch the frequency?
[20:51] <eroomde> the ratio of fixes to non-fixes would drop
[20:51] <Laurenceb_> that looks wrong XD
[20:51] <eroomde> until it was all non-fixes
[20:51] <benoxley> errr, map :S
[20:51] <fsphil-laptop> that ain't right at all lol
[20:51] <M0WOJ-Alex> charlie:recon any would be awake?
[20:51] <priyesh> bhat
[20:51] <priyesh> what
[20:52] <fsphil-laptop> altitude -4 lol
[20:52] <priyesh> happened there
[20:52] <fsphil-laptop> another fix...
[20:52] <fsphil-laptop> invalid again
[20:52] <natrium42> whoa
[20:52] <fsphil-laptop> nuts
[20:52] <M0WOJ-Alex> spacenear gone weird
[20:52] <natrium42> whats going on?
[20:52] <fsphil-laptop> it's the payload, not the tracker :)
[20:52] <charlie> i guess i didnt think about their sleep schedule
[20:52] <charlie> opps
[20:52] <charlie> :)
[20:52] <fsphil-laptop> $$ALPHA,959,20:51:35,5258.5989,01535.5361,-0004,03,-57.50,-50.94,3.48*DB90
[20:52] <earthshine2> weird
[20:52] <Upu> GPS has decided -50'C isn't for it and has gone on strike
[20:52] <natrium42> run away balloon
[20:52] <jonsowman> lol
[20:53] <fsphil-laptop> no fix
[20:53] <natrium42> ?
[20:53] <GW8RAK> Yes, Lunar_Lander, but a programmable tx module like the RF23 could handle a change of frequency
[20:53] <fsphil-laptop> warble in the signal
[20:53] <M0WOJ-Alex> shame we wont find out how it ends
[20:53] <priyesh> i want to fly up there and change the batteries
[20:53] <fsphil-laptop> no fix
[20:53] <earthshine2> GW8RAK: What current does it draw though ?
[20:53] <andrew_apex> priyesh: good luck with that
[20:53] <HarrisonC> did you put address and phone number on box
[20:53] <priyesh> andrew_apex: i'll try :)
[20:53] <priyesh> HarrisonC: yes
[20:53] <fsphil-laptop> it's going a picochu
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[20:54] <GW8RAK> Ask jcoxon, his pico load is based on one.
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> DanielRichman : and others
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[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> Thomas sent me all strings he received
[20:54] <fsphil-laptop> no fix again
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[20:54] <M0WOJ-Alex> any chance well get a lock again
[20:54] <fsphil-laptop> another signal warble
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[20:54] <fsphil-laptop> it doesn't sound healthy
[20:54] <earthshine2> It's in the lap of the gods now
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> here: http://pastebin.com/EcCqaWNB
[20:54] <andrew_apex> M0WOJ-Alex: very unlikley
[20:54] <fsphil-laptop> could the voltage reading be inaccurate?
[20:55] <fsphil-laptop> 3.46v
[20:55] <Lunar_Lander> and andrew_apex and priyesh and jonsowman
[20:55] <Rob_M0DTS> A very interestig flight today.. tnx to launch team.
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[20:55] <HarrisonC> wish someone would find it
[20:55] <M0WOJ-Alex> andrew_apex: so is that it then. weve lost it :(
[20:55] <priyesh> Lunar_Lander: should be +/- 0.02v maximum
[20:55] <daveake> Could be. I'd expect it all to run a bit lower than this. Depends on the regulator tho.
[20:55] <andrew_apex> Lunar_Lander: of course - once the AVR stops getting 3v3, it will be incorrect
[20:55] <priyesh> andrew_apex: that too
[20:55] <andrew_apex> priyesh: no - the AVR assumes its vcc = 3v3
[20:55] <earthshine2> M0WOJ-Alex: Until someone finds the box
[20:55] <G4TNX> Second that, outstanding flight.
[20:55] <fsphil-laptop> still no fix
[20:56] <andrew_apex> so if vcc < 3v3, then the voltage will read higher than it actually is
[20:56] <priyesh> i was saying if the avr gets what it needs
[20:56] <danielsaul> priyesh: Did we not use the 1.1v ref on the avr?
[20:56] <priyesh> the accuracy is what i stated
[20:56] <andrew_apex> priyesh: exactly
[20:56] <DG0CAW> next time more energy! :-)
[20:56] <daveake> The AVR can be set to use an internal reference to fix that issue
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> priyesh : and andrew_apex I didn't mean that, but that I just got all the strings of about the last hour http://pastebin.com/EcCqaWNB
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[20:56] <M0WOJ-Alex> Really good flight today. Well done guys. Perhaps well beat the record next time. Plus not melt an inverter :s
[20:56] <andrew_apex> whoops - fsphil-laptop even :D
[20:57] <benoxley> :)
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[20:57] <costyn> so I'm guessing by sun-up itll be in Belarus or Ukraine
[20:57] <HarrisonC> need to start a database of european hams
[20:57] <GW8RAK> earthshine2, 28mA for 13dBm
[20:57] <fsphil-laptop> string 967
[20:57] <earthshine2> That's pretty low
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[20:58] <fsphil-laptop> -57.56c outside :)
[20:58] <fsphil-laptop> I'd stop working at that temperature too
[20:58] <benoxley> haha
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[20:58] <costyn> fsphil-laptop: :)
[20:58] <costyn> that's lower than BUZZ the other day right?
[20:58] <priyesh> are packets still coming thorugh
[20:58] <DG0CAW> mh
[20:59] <HarrisonC> the space near is not working
[20:59] <priyesh> (without lock?)
[20:59] <daveake> Buzz lowest was -53
[20:59] <HarrisonC> i mean not loading
[20:59] <priyesh> HarrisonC: they need lock
[20:59] <andrew_apex> thanks for everyone's help tracking - it's been an exciting (and unexpected) flight path!
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[20:59] <fsphil-laptop> I'm still receiving yea (via global tuners)
[20:59] <fsphil-laptop> but no data other than temperature and voltage
[20:59] <eroomde> good question - i must keep emphasising that we have seen gps units do maybe 10 to 20 consecutive no-fixes then get a fix
[20:59] <eroomde> so don't loose hope, however improbable it seems
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[20:59] <andrew_apex> fsphil-laptop: keep an eye on temperature - that should tell us when it bursts (if you're still receiving at that point)
[20:59] <priyesh> can we keep tracking until vattery dies
[21:00] <priyesh> *battery
[21:00] <benoxley> fsphil-laptop: what node are you on?
[21:00] <Lunar_Lander> hello to the new guests, swsch sdh7 klausf_ and hook_
[21:00] <danielsaul> fsphil-laptop: Which one are you using?
[21:00] <daveake> Vattery? Is it in Russia already?
[21:00] <fsphil-laptop> benoxley, Dokkum DX
[21:00] <andrew_apex> i'd expect it to last quite a while now - the GPS was the main power hungry part, and that's going to be drawing a lot less current now (hopefully)
[21:00] <priyesh> lol
[21:00] <fsphil-laptop> also danielsaul
[21:00] <benoxley> ah okay
[21:00] <danielsaul> thanks
[21:00] <fsphil-laptop> there are closer stations
[21:00] <Lunar_Lander> malfunction on altitude
[21:00] <eroomde> andrew_apex: it might be aquiring
[21:00] <eroomde> which is the highest current mode
[21:00] <Lunar_Lander> and position
[21:01] <fsphil-laptop> the signal doesn't sound terribly healthy to be honest :)
[21:01] <fsphil-laptop> there's a little warble just before it transmits data
[21:01] <daveake> The Lassen IQ in Buzz had lock issues (altitude got stuck) for a while then it recovered
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[21:01] <earthshine> The temperature has dropped about 2 degrees it might be that
[21:02] <swsch> you guys made this a very exciting saturday ... watching the balloon pass the prediction was fun.
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[21:02] <fogger> You should be able to use the ground speed to estimate where it might be even though you don't have a gps fix. Then when it bursts the gps might come back online.
[21:02] <daveake> Even Mrs Dave has been looking at the map in between Strictly/YFactor sessions
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[21:02] <jonsowman> daveake: lol
[21:02] <OZ1SKY> im back again, still S6 solid here
[21:03] <swsch> I saw the link on hackaday, and kept the map open all day
[21:03] <earthshine> I reckon it's near Poznan now
[21:03] <GW8RAK> Sounds like your wife understands our activities daveake
[21:03] <charlie> is the temp reading accurate?
[21:03] <Upu> any location information OZ1SKY ?
[21:03] <daveake> I think the chase last Sunday almost converted her :)
[21:03] <fsphil-laptop> if I ever get a wife, she must at least know a bit of C :)
[21:03] <earthshine> charlie: Yes quite likely
[21:03] <charlie> WOW
[21:03] <OZ1SKY> Upu: im near Aarhus, Denmark, JO56DG
[21:03] <jonsowman> fsphil-laptop: haha
[21:04] <pszy> If you need someone who can speak polish (for the recovery) i would help you. My parents are polish.
[21:04] <HarrisonC> the next balloon could have mini jets and try to find the apex alpha with a ham?
[21:04] <Upu> sorry , I meant are you recieving any location information from the payload ?
[21:04] <eroomde> fsphil-laptop: i think if you ask a woman if she's done any C, she might get the wrong idea
[21:04] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[21:04] <Upu> sorry for not making myself clear
[21:04] <RocketBoy> 434.650 is inside the 434MHz ISM band - which is OKed for use in ITU region 1 only - fortunately russia is part of region 1
[21:04] <GW8RAK> Sounds like my kind of woman ed
[21:04] <fsphil-laptop> still no gps fix
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[21:04] <OZ1SKY> Upu: yes got a solid S6 signal here, getting data just fine
[21:04] <HarrisonC> need to find open radio in russia
[21:05] <DG0CAW> oz1sky.. was at your homepage. :D
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[21:06] <HarrisonC> spacenear has totally gone down here
[21:06] <OZ1SKY> DG0CAW: heh that havent been updated for some time now
[21:06] <earthshine> charlie: they can go as low as -70 on a flight
[21:06] <andrew_apex> i'm off to bed guys - thanks again for an awesome day of HABing :)
[21:06] <DG0CAW> oz1sky ah okay
[21:06] <fsphil-laptop> HarrisonC, the payload is not reporting it's position anymore. suspect gps has failed
[21:06] <jonsowman> cheers andrew_apex
[21:06] <Upu> I see why you have S6 OZ1SKY 16 element Yagi :)
[21:06] <priyesh> bye andrew_apex
[21:06] <Laurenceb_> anyone still receiving it?
[21:06] <Rob_M0DTS> fsphil-laptop, which tuner are you on?
[21:06] <priyesh> thanks andrew_apex
[21:07] <fsphil-laptop> Rob_M0DTS, Dokkum DX
[21:07] <HarrisonC> year but the whole website is down
[21:07] <charlie> geesh
[21:07] <Rob_M0DTS> ta
[21:07] <earthshine> OZ1SKY: you can add this achievement to your homepage
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[21:07] <Upu> 2 recieves still have it but GPS is dead Laurenceb
[21:07] <Rob_M0DTS> Berlin statics no good?
[21:07] <OZ1SKY> Upu: no the 16elem is h-pol, the gp-9 v-pol works better
[21:07] <Upu> ah of course
[21:08] <OZ1SKY> earthshine: yes good idea, are there any official achievement to apply for ?
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> not yet
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> but we can invent one
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[21:08] <Upu> Honourary member of UKHAS
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> and DH1DBL also
[21:08] <earthshine> :)
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[21:09] <Upu> I think they owe you at least a QSL card
[21:09] <earthshine> +1
[21:09] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:09] <fsphil-laptop> I must get some qsl cards for next time
[21:09] <jonsowman> abdolutely
[21:09] <daveake> Did any of the Apex team win one of the freebie NTX2s? They're going to need one ...
[21:09] <jonsowman> *absolutely
[21:09] <OZ1SKY> Im just happy to attend and help out
[21:09] <earthshine> jonsowman: Got a cold?
[21:09] <priyesh> daveake: no
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[21:09] <daveake> shame!
[21:09] <jonsowman> earthshine: haha
[21:09] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[21:09] <jonsowman> daveake: i won one, maybe i'll donate it
[21:09] <Upu> haha
[21:09] <daveake> :)
[21:10] <priyesh> jonsowman: i thought it was going CUSF
[21:10] <priyesh> :P
[21:10] <earthshine> Has the tracker gone down? I can't access it any more
[21:10] <jonsowman> i may change my mind
[21:10] <priyesh> okay :P
[21:10] <OZ1SKY> Shift is still at 290Hz
[21:10] <fsphil-laptop> it seems to have earthshine, HarrisonC can't get it either
[21:10] <danielsaul> I think jonsowman should support the project that he founded :P
[21:10] <Upu> strange
[21:10] <Upu> www.spacenear.us is up
[21:10] <jonsowman> thanks for your unbiased opinion daveake
[21:10] <earthshine> Not me to
[21:10] <jonsowman> oh
[21:11] <jonsowman> sorry
[21:11] <Upu> tracker isn't responding
[21:11] <jonsowman> not you daveake
[21:11] <jonsowman> i meant danielsaul
[21:11] <daveake> :)
[21:11] <AbstractBeliefs> Upu: the payload seems to be down
[21:11] <HarrisonC> the web server or website is down. don't think it would be not receiving dat
[21:11] <HarrisonC> data
[21:11] <OZ1SKY> broken data $$ALPHA,989,,,,,,-56.75,-51.31,3.50*C6F0
[21:11] <DG0CAW> maybe its near poznan now !?
[21:12] <Upu> AbstractBeliefs don't think it would be down yet, GPS data is unreliable at the moment
[21:12] <HarrisonC> was it waterproof
[21:12] <priyesh> HarrisonC: yeah
[21:12] <HarrisonC> so if it went in pond it would be ok?
[21:12] <AbstractBeliefs> Upu: yeah, poor terminology, i mean its getting harder to hear it
[21:12] <M0JCU> OZ1SKY RDF?
[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> Upu , jonsowman http://pastebin.com/EcCqaWNB DH1BDL's collected data
[21:12] <priyesh> thanks Lunar_Lander
[21:12] <Upu> ta
[21:12] <jonsowman> oh fantastic Lunar_Lander
[21:12] <jonsowman> thanks!
[21:12] <OZ1SKY> M0JCU: sorry RDF?
[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> you're welcome
[21:13] <priyesh> HarrisonC: for a while
[21:13] <HarrisonC> need to prank call Polish police saying bomb dropped out of sky somewhere near poznan
[21:13] <DG0CAW> hehe
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[21:13] <fsphil-laptop> just about decoding the signal now
[21:14] <fsphil-laptop> amazed it lasted this long
[21:14] <fsphil-laptop> priyesh, you must put details on the antenna you used ;)
[21:14] <Lunar_Lander> this actually happened when a DWD balloon landed in a allotment
[21:14] <Laurenceb_> looks like theres some more positions hiding in that text dump
[21:14] <HarrisonC> i have tracked since the start online so it was amazing
[21:14] <Lunar_Lander> police was called about a bomb that dropped from the sky
[21:14] <Lunar_Lander> and it was just a weather probe
[21:14] <priyesh> fsphil-laptop: will do.. i'm shattered today, but tomorrow i'll be here all day sortig stuff out!
[21:14] <jonsowman> natrium42: ping
[21:14] <danielsaul> fsphil-laptop: The antenna wasnt particularly special...
[21:14] <M0JCU> Do you have a bearing on the signal?
[21:14] <mac> is spacenear.us down for anyone else?
[21:15] <steve|m> is it jus me or is spacenear.us down?
[21:15] <priyesh> M0JCU: good idea
[21:15] <jonsowman> mac: yes
[21:15] <HarrisonC> yes me
[21:15] <benoxley> well done for building the payload priyesh and danielsaul, fantastic job!
[21:15] <DG0CAW> there are pics online from the balloon?
[21:15] <earthshine> Yes it's down
[21:15] <Laurenceb_> i think we can predict where it is quite well if we know its still flying
[21:15] <priyesh> thanks benoxley
[21:15] <earthshine> DG0CAW: No
[21:15] <DG0CAW> okay
[21:15] <Lunar_Lander> well
[21:15] <Lunar_Lander> DG0CAW : http://gallery.apexhab.org/
[21:15] <DG0CAW> ah okay
[21:15] <benoxley> priyesh: will u/l my launch pics tomorrow
[21:16] <danielsaul> Uploading my launch pics now
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[21:16] <OZ1SKY> M0JCU: ~145deg, dont have a vertical beam, so reading is on the horizontal
[21:16] <fsphil-laptop> okie, still hear it on .nl station but no more decodes
[21:16] <Lunar_Lander> DG0CAW and OZ1SKY how did you learn of this here?
[21:16] <fsphil-laptop> I'm done
[21:16] <Lunar_Lander> from the twitter posts?
[21:17] <HarrisonC> could the ISS help? :)
[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[21:17] <benoxley> :D
[21:17] <danielsaul> HarrisonC: If you happen to have their phone number :P
[21:17] <DG0CAW> some guy comes to our irc channel hamradioboard
[21:17] <HarrisonC> well Skype will do right?
[21:17] <jcoxon> Ping natrium42
[21:17] <DG0CAW> and asked about help for tracking
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[21:18] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:18] <danielsaul> DG0CAW: Great :) - what irc channel is that?
[21:18] <OZ1SKY> Lunar_Lander: i found the signal and asked on on4kst chat room
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[21:18] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[21:18] <DG0CAW> #hamradioboard at irc.hamradioboard.net its in german
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[21:18] <priyesh> packet 1000 received
[21:18] <priyesh> !
[21:18] <HarrisonC> have they got a signal
[21:18] <benoxley> :D
[21:19] <fsphil-laptop> I can still hear it, just no data
[21:19] <HarrisonC> need to get nearer?
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[21:19] <DG0CAW> fsphil-laptop: whats your location?
[21:19] <danielsaul> priyesh: Was the packet numbering reset from the testing at all?
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[21:19] <costyn> HarrisonC: GPS has lost it's sattelite lock, so no useful data anyways
[21:20] <fsphil-laptop> DG0CAW, I'm in N.Ireland but the radio I was using was in the netherlands
[21:20] <priyesh> danielsaul: we probably started around 200-300
[21:20] <DG0CAW> ah okay.
[21:20] <priyesh> i reset it on thursday
[21:20] <danielsaul> ok
[21:20] <OZ1SKY> Still S6 here
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[21:20] <HarrisonC> what gps module were you using on circuit board
[21:20] <danielsaul> lassen iq
[21:20] <fsphil-laptop> aaah, nice to have a bit of silence after listening to USB noise and rtty all day :)
[21:20] <Rob_M0DTS> 'm off now.. will check back in tomorrow ;-) GN to all.
[21:20] <DG0CAW> oz1sky. cool
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[21:20] <fsphil-laptop> later Rob_M0DTS
[21:20] <Rob_M0DTS> laters
[21:21] <OZ1SKY> $$ALPHA,1004,,,,,,-57.50,-51.44,3.41*7BED
[21:21] <jonsowman> thanks Rob_M0DTS!
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[21:21] <HarrisonC> i would love to get a radio to track thing like this myself but how do i start, I'm only 14
[21:21] <Laurenceb_> eek no wonder the gpos died
[21:21] <fsphil-laptop> nippy up there :)
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[21:21] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:21] <Upu> HarrisonC visit your local radio amateur club
[21:21] <Lunar_Lander> radios are expensive :(
[21:22] <priyesh> HarrisonC: we're only 15-17
[21:22] <fsphil-laptop> OZ1SKY, listen out for the signal starting to warble or oscillate, it's usually a sign that it's begun falling
[21:22] <Zuph> Lunar_Lander: Not from china :-p
[21:22] <Lunar_Lander> LOL yea
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[21:22] <HarrisonC> but what kind of radio
[21:22] <Lunar_Lander> a CD player is good
[21:22] <priyesh> HarrisonC: have a look into payload design
[21:22] <OZ1SKY> fsphil-laptop: ok, but still stabil as a rock
[21:22] <Lunar_Lander> XD just joking sorry
[21:22] Action: costyn is also looking for a cheap receiver
[21:22] <OZ1SKY> S7 now
[21:23] <fsphil-laptop> indeed. I think it will float all night
[21:23] <DG0CAW> harrisonc look for some ham radio people in the neighbourhood! i think they will help you. check out the rsgb homepage.
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:23] <Upu> HarrisonC the amateur radios can be pretty expensive but you can get second hand ones
[21:23] <Upu> Radio club is the best way forward
[21:23] <Upu> Are you in the UK ?
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> HarrisonC : if you do it right, you'll end up at Lake Constance one summer
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[21:23] <OZ1SKY> The faulty data is still beeing collected, or?
[21:23] <Upu> yes all data is good data
[21:23] <fsphil-laptop> it is OZ1SKY
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[21:23] <HarrisonC> i just got a macbook pro 15 new so blown fund at moment!
[21:24] <fsphil-laptop> it's still useful
[21:24] <Lunar_Lander> OZ1SKY : faulty data should be rejected
[21:24] <OZ1SKY> ok
[21:24] <jonsowman> yes please OZ1SKY :)