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[00:08] <Zuph> NigeyS: Heresy
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[00:30] <NigeyS> hey Zuph
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[06:19] <griffonbot> Received email: Kristaps "Re: [UKHAS] The 6 Stages of HAB Expenditure"
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[06:38] <edmoore> 69 members
[06:38] <edmoore> Lol.
[06:39] <Upu> at 8am
[06:39] <edmoore> 6.30 for my today!
[06:39] <Upu> ?
[06:39] <edmoore> Had a hack session last night, woke up excited and keen to start the day
[06:39] <Upu> lol
[06:39] <edmoore> Which is unusual
[06:40] <edmoore> They say that happiness is a series of small victories
[06:40] <edmoore> I think that's true
[06:40] <Upu> it is, Eagle makes me very happy
[06:40] <Darkside> heh
[06:40] <Darkside> Upu: wha
[06:40] <Darkside> opposite for me
[06:40] <Darkside> :-)
[06:40] <Darkside> eagle makes me very very sad
[06:41] <edmoore> Hacking is a great way of achieving lots of things. Like eagle, as you say, or getting the software to work
[06:41] <Upu> you have to hack eagle :)
[06:41] <edmoore> Do you know when the pcbs are due to fly home, Upu ?
[06:41] <Upu> Thats what I love about all this, its Lego for grown ups :)
[06:42] <Upu> Well Tsvetan from Olimex told me I was a pillock (not in as many words but I suspect thats what he things) and that I had to fix the PCB which I've done and sent back so hopefully once I've paid for it 1-2 weeks
[06:42] <Upu> tings=thinks
[06:42] <Upu> ah whatever...
[06:42] <edmoore> :)
[06:43] <Upu> "did you noticed that your silk is over your pads and you will have hard time to solder your components?"
[06:43] <edmoore> Getting that feedback is brilliant in and of itself anyway
[06:43] <Upu> yeah I thanked him for it
[06:43] <edmoore> The Chinese firms would just make it anyway
[06:43] <Upu> indeed
[06:44] <Upu> ok work calls
[06:44] <Upu> have a good day all
[06:44] <edmoore> See you
[06:44] <edmoore> And you
[06:44] <edmoore> Friday!
[06:45] <fsphil> yays
[06:45] <edmoore> fsphil: Thanks for your vids
[06:45] <edmoore> I sent my talk to my mum
[06:46] <fsphil> no worries. still two more to go I think
[06:46] <edmoore> She said 'now I understand why you aren't interested in talking about wardrobes for your new house when I phone'
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[08:46] <daveake> Morning all
[08:47] <SamSilver_> dave
[08:47] <SamSilver_> afk
[08:50] <SpeedEvil> Mronei
[08:51] Action: SpeedEvil sighs and wants to go back to sleep.
[08:51] <daveake> mmmmSleep
[08:52] <daveake> I might build a payload this weekend. I'm retiring Buzz, and Cloud2 is unlikely to fly again
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[09:04] <daveake> fsphil - I checked my FSA03s ..... they are the LP version
[09:05] <fsphil> excellent!
[09:06] <fsphil> hmm.. looks like there was an outage for a while there
[09:06] <daveake> I'll wire one up soon to check the current load
[09:06] <fsphil> I didn't get a chance to look at mine. I'm pretty sure I know where they are :)
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[09:06] <daveake> :D
[09:07] <daveake> Mine were actually in a labelled box. So not only did I label something, but I put the right things in there too
[09:07] <fsphil> there's an idea
[09:08] <daveake> I won't last
[09:08] <daveake> It
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[09:22] <Laurenceb> id imagine the LP ones actually work properly
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[09:22] <Laurenceb> mine arent LP - the LNA on the front isnt as good
[09:23] <Laurenceb> and combined with the sarantel ant means it isnt brilliant at getting a lock
[09:23] <Laurenceb> the GS407 module is much better
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[09:26] <daveake> I used one of those on cloud2. Worked well. Expensive though.
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[09:37] <Laurenceb> http://spaceflightnow.com/soyuz/vs01/status.html#
[09:39] Action: SpeedEvil sighs at congress.
[09:40] <SpeedEvil> 'let's reduce spending on commercial spaceflight' = have to buy more soyuz launches in 2016.
[09:40] <SpeedEvil> Jam today.
[09:40] <Laurenceb> if esa stick a capsule on the top, they'll have a manned launcher before nasa
[09:41] <Laurenceb> lol theres people walking around the launch pad
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[09:42] <Laurenceb> wonder what health and safety has to say
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[09:45] <SpeedEvil> If someone sneaks aboard Dragon, SpaceX will have a launcher before NASA.
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[09:52] <Laurenceb> ah main ESA feed starts in a few minutes
[09:52] <UpuWork> that the spaceflightnow RL ?
[09:53] <UpuWork> URL
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[09:59] <fsphil> when's launch?
[10:00] <Laurenceb> 30 minutes
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[10:02] <griffonbot> Received email: Solar Balloonman "[UKHAS] Re: Black polyethylene for solar balloons - bulk buying?"
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[10:08] <Laurenceb> http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Galileo_IOV/SEMDRFFURTG_0.html
[10:08] <Laurenceb> ow my ears
[10:08] <russss> heh
[10:08] <russss> is that one doing the test tone too?
[10:08] <russss> I'm watching http://www.videocorner.tv/videocorner2/live_flv/index.php?langue=en
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[10:12] <Laurenceb> lol the intro
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[10:16] <Laurenceb> just 10 years
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[10:56] <Laurenceb> burnout
[10:56] <Laurenceb> looks ok
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[11:15] <jonsowman> akawaka: please sort out your connection problems :)
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[11:59] <eroomde> i got told off for doing that once
[11:59] <eroomde> to smea
[12:00] <jonsowman> by whom?
[12:00] #highaltitude: mode change '-o jonsowman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[12:00] <jonsowman> just filling the channel with join/quit spam isn't helpful
[12:02] <LazyLeopard> Ops actions often attract complaints. Whether the complaints have merit, however...
[12:02] <jonsowman> i'll remove the ban in half an hour or so
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[12:03] <eroomde> Be quiet LazyLeopard
[12:03] #highaltitude: mode change '-o eroomde' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[12:03] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[12:03] <eroomde> lolzor
[12:03] <eroomde> it's a bit like that bit in lord of the rings
[12:03] <eroomde> when gandalf shouts at bilbo
[12:04] <jonsowman> haha
[12:05] <eroomde> how is it going jonsowman ?
[12:05] <jonsowman> not too bad thanks eroomde
[12:05] <jonsowman> has been quite a busy week
[12:05] <jonsowman> how's things with you?
[12:07] <eroomde> similar
[12:07] <jonsowman> next week is even busier...
[12:07] <eroomde> labs etc?
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[12:07] <jonsowman> three supervisions mon, tues & weds
[12:09] <eroomde> nice
[12:09] <eroomde> a weekend of examples papers then
[12:13] <jonsowman> apex launch tomorrow
[12:13] <jonsowman> but apart from that, yes, examples papers
[12:13] <jonsowman> \o/
[12:16] <UpuWork> Yay launch
[12:17] <UpuWork> I'll be tracking
[12:17] <jonsowman> thanks UpuWork :) it's going way out to sea
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[12:17] <UpuWork> whats current prediction and whats it "doing" ?
[12:17] <Randomskk> I have a supervision on thursday as well as aforementioned mon, tues, weds, :(
[12:17] <jonsowman> UpuWork: underfilled 2000g hwoyee so could go anywhere really :P
[12:18] <UpuWork> interesting :)
[12:18] <UpuWork> payload ?
[12:18] <UpuWork> micro one ?
[12:18] <jonsowman> http://www.apexhab.org/alpha/
[12:18] <jonsowman> yeah, 300g ish
[12:18] <Randomskk> UpuWork: got the NTX2s today, cheers :)
[12:18] <UpuWork> ah yes found the mail
[12:18] <UpuWork> no problems Randomskk
[12:18] <UpuWork> no bent pins ?
[12:18] <Randomskk> also got a macbook to vga adapter and a logitech presenter, that conference tempted me
[12:18] <Randomskk> all seems fine
[12:19] <UpuWork> my pikey packaging worked then :)
[12:19] <UpuWork> good luck on getting the record you're not going for
[12:19] <Randomskk> hehe yes
[12:19] <UpuWork> btw
[12:19] <jonsowman> haha
[12:19] <UpuWork> advise arhab you're going to launch
[12:19] <jonsowman> UpuWork: done
[12:19] <UpuWork> so there are no arguments :)
[12:19] <UpuWork> jolly good
[12:19] <UpuWork> want the tracker setting up ?
[12:20] <jonsowman> i don't know what the state of play with that is actually
[12:20] <jonsowman> priyesh: ^^
[12:20] <UpuWork> I'll chance the title etc
[12:20] <jonsowman> thanks :)
[12:21] <Randomskk> eroomde: something is actually happening with the static test rig datalogging stuff, ;o
[12:24] <UpuWork> do you have a current prediction jonsowman ?
[12:24] <UpuWork> or is that what we need priyesh for ?
[12:25] <eroomde> Randomskk: both good purchases
[12:25] <eroomde> Randomskk: yes i saw the email
[12:25] <eroomde> nice
[12:28] <eroomde> Randomskk: 5khz on everything
[12:28] <eroomde> bridge drivers for the load cells
[12:28] <eroomde> erm....
[12:28] <eroomde> that's probably about it
[12:28] <Randomskk> yea but like thermocouples and pressure sensors might be nice
[12:29] <Randomskk> eroomde: I got the r800 with the green laser and the timer, it's nice ;D
[12:29] <eroomde> put thems in too then
[12:29] <eroomde> ah the timer
[12:29] <eroomde> posh
[12:29] <Randomskk> ikr
[12:29] <jonsowman> UpuWork: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=c2ca90550cb47abb59e4a51965bd6ab7c3d72173
[12:29] <eroomde> i just use presenter display
[12:29] <jonsowman> something like this, but with more floatyness
[12:29] <eroomde> i like presenter display
[12:29] <Randomskk> so what temperatures, what pressures?
[12:29] <Randomskk> also yes, that is good
[12:29] <eroomde> it means i don't have to practice my talks
[12:29] <Randomskk> I should try it
[12:29] <Randomskk> maybe I should get keynote
[12:29] <eroomde> totally worth it, i think
[12:29] <Randomskk> google docs is so easy to make presentations in though
[12:29] <eroomde> the animation tools are pretty powerful
[12:29] <Randomskk> otoh I think it can export to something that keynote might be able to import
[12:30] <Randomskk> I have the EAA CD Player presentation to make and give soon
[12:30] <Randomskk> maybe do that in it
[12:30] <eroomde> i can do nice things like play some video, pause it automatically, have a caption with arrow move to the right place, then retsart the video and have the arrow follow the object
[12:30] <Randomskk> that is super handy
[12:30] <eroomde> like 'observe this bit being jettisonned ---->'
[12:30] <eroomde> and track it down
[12:31] <eroomde> you can also do nice things like record your presentation with a mic and keynote and export it as a vid
[12:31] <eroomde> so it's a sort of poor man's documentary maker
[12:31] <Randomskk> plus it looks pretty, right
[12:31] <eroomde> it does look pretty too
[12:31] <UpuWork> http://spacenear.us/tracker/
[12:31] <UpuWork> all yours
[12:31] <eroomde> well, all i ever do is have pics or vids
[12:31] <jonsowman> thanks UpuWork :D
[12:31] <jonsowman> lol, ISH
[12:32] <UpuWork> click it.. :)
[12:32] <jonsowman> hehe i did
[12:32] <eroomde> so i don't really know how pretty the themes are
[12:33] <Randomskk> the wombat talk was about as pretty as google presentations get
[12:33] <Randomskk> but I guess it was fairly pretty
[12:34] <eroomde> yes it was pretty
[12:34] <UpuWork> btw when you do HTML in the $heading_mission it uses that for the <TITLE> HTML field
[12:35] <jonsowman> so it does
[12:35] <UpuWork> which looks rubbish when you do links in heading
[12:35] <eroomde> oooh does that mean i'll have an ntx2 waiting for me when i get home?
[12:35] <UpuWork> likely unless the postman ate it
[12:37] <eroomde> cool
[12:37] <eroomde> i can plaaaaaay
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[12:46] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[13:00] <number10> mmm, I dont think I have a suitable 3v3 regulator here - looking at the data sheet it goes unstable with capacitor ESR > 1.4ohm
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[13:18] <UpuWork> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/20/alchemy_sentence/
[13:22] <eroomde> wow
[13:23] <GW8RAK> When I saw Northern Ireland man, why did I think of fsphil?
[13:23] <GW8RAK> :)
[13:23] <UpuWork> lol I actually thought of Phill too :)
[13:23] <GW8RAK> Great minds think alike
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[13:50] <Laurenceb> what the hell
[13:50] <Laurenceb> why jail for that
[13:51] <UpuWork> well tbh if you think you can make poo into gold by putting it on a heater you probably don't belong in civilised society
[13:54] <eroomde> comedy gold, maybe
[13:57] <Laurenceb> love the atheists coming in
[13:57] <Laurenceb> the register is infested with them
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[14:15] <andrew_apex> anyone around?
[14:17] <UpuWork> yup
[14:17] <UpuWork> afternoon
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[14:20] <fsphil> something break? (that's usually when people think of me)
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[14:21] <Laurenceb> satellites deployed
[14:21] <Laurenceb> galileo in orbit :P
[14:21] <fsphil> haha
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[14:22] <UpuWork> hye Phil
[14:22] <UpuWork> just some Irish dude who felt he could turn poo into gold
[14:22] <fsphil> he wasn't very short by any chance? and wore a green hat? :)
[14:23] <fsphil> just read about it -- bit of a twat really :)
[14:23] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: Good luck to #apexhab Alpha launch tommorrow big balloon, small payload altitude record ? :) http://t.co/eXA5gAix #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/127389575680245760]
[14:23] <eroomde> an alt record would be fun
[14:23] <eroomde> for sure
[14:24] <Laurenceb> ill have to break out the sige sampler and have a look soon XD
[14:24] <fsphil> it'll be great if they beat the very very expensive zp balloon from the states :)
[14:25] <Laurenceb> lol esa tv is hilarious
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[14:26] <Laurenceb> french translator just went mad and started shouting at someone in the studio
[14:26] <NigelMoby> Lol
[14:26] <Laurenceb> - only on the audio unfortunately
[14:27] <fsphil> I must get one of those motor driven satellites, see if I can get esa tv properly
[14:27] <Laurenceb> sounded like someone gave her the wrong audio feed - lots of swearing in french and punching sounds
[14:28] <SpeedEvil> 'The first rule about ESA-fight-club'...
[14:28] <Laurenceb> ESA-flight-club?
[14:32] <eroomde> you do not deliver a project on time or on budget
[14:32] <eroomde> the second rule of ESA fight club is...
[14:32] <Laurenceb> haha
[14:32] <eroomde> right bbl
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[14:36] <W0OTM> LMAO, I just say a CitiBank commercial on TV. It was about 3 guys launch a HAB
[14:36] <W0OTM> (not say, *watched)
[14:36] <Laurenceb> wow
[14:36] <Laurenceb> who?
[14:36] <W0OTM> Dunno
[14:36] <Laurenceb> probably fake then :P
[14:36] <W0OTM> I need to see if I can find it on the web
[14:37] <W0OTM> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF1zTb_pbfU&feature=youtu.be
[14:37] <Laurenceb> lol i just realised all the dignitaries at the ESA event have the audio feed though earphones
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[14:37] <Laurenceb> crazy french translator will be looking for a new job :P
[14:39] <Laurenceb> thats got to be pretty embarrassing
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[15:10] <Dan-K2VOL1> the commercial has been airing in the US for about 6 months
[15:11] Action: hibby waves
[15:11] <Dan-K2VOL1> hi Hibby
[15:13] <hibby> how are we?
[15:14] <Dan-K2VOL1> ¿bueno, y tu?
[15:15] <hibby> hehe, I've been better.
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[15:38] <griffonbot> Received email: "Re: [UKHAS] uBlox 6 Breakouts"
[15:41] Nick change: fsphil-laptop -> fsphil
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[15:55] <UpuWork> Hey natrium42 are you about ?
[15:55] <costyn> UpuWork: so seeing as Darkside doesn't have time to make his breakouts, I was wondering if you had any available. Are they only the breakouts or also include ublox6 chips + antenna's?
[15:55] <UpuWork> I only have the break outs
[15:56] <UpuWork> well don't have those yet
[15:56] <UpuWork> if there is enough interest I might consider assembling some boards
[15:57] <costyn> seeing as my only SMD soldering experience is removing 1 IC this week, I'm not sure I'm up to assembling the boards myself :)
[15:57] <UpuWork> well I've not done much
[15:57] <UpuWork> but I have the gear
[15:57] <UpuWork> just no idea
[15:57] <UpuWork> :)
[15:57] <UpuWork> ok afk
[15:58] <costyn> lemme know; I'm interested
[16:04] <W0OTM> Dan-K2VOL1: I dont watch much TV
[16:05] <NigeyS> what is this T.V you speak of ?
[16:05] <W0OTM> Dan-K2VOL1: I should rephrase that, I have DVR, so I dont watch commercials
[16:07] <Dan-K2VOL1> I hear ya W0OTM, I have gotten rid of TVs entirely and just use Netflix or such things
[16:07] <Dan-K2VOL1> I'd much rather pay a fee and watch exactly what I want, when I want
[16:08] <costyn> Dan-K2VOL1: sounds good... wish I could here too
[16:08] <W0OTM> Dan-K2VOL1: Thats what I do with my DVR, watch what I want, when I WANT
[16:08] <costyn> I woudln't mind paying for content if it's ad free and I can watch it whenever I want; now I just download it, but its still a hassle
[16:09] <NigeyS> i just use iplayer and usenet ..
[16:09] <fsphil> NigeyS, I just realised I never spotted a tv at your place
[16:09] <NigeyS> how did u miss the 32" tv downstairs? lol
[16:09] <Dan-K2VOL1> yea, I am too lazy to use usenet or bittorrent, and I don't care for current shows, so Netflix fits ok
[16:09] <W0OTM> I will be in London Monday-Wed
[16:09] <Dan-K2VOL1> nice Marshall, what are you up to there
[16:09] <priyesh> hi all
[16:09] <priyesh> you pinged earlier
[16:09] <NigeyS> hey priyesh
[16:09] <priyesh> is the tracker setup for alpha?
[16:10] <fsphil> NigeyS, in the kitchen?
[16:10] <NigeyS> nah the front room, but i dont think we went in there
[16:11] <fsphil> aah that explains it :)
[16:11] Action: fsphil would make a great detective ;)
[16:12] <NigeyS> lol
[16:12] <NigeyS> im happy with the new monitor
[16:12] <NigeyS> turning off the led was a major selling point for me lol
[16:13] <fsphil> I still haven't tried that
[16:16] <fsphil> haha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA
[16:16] <NigeyS> haha its just a cool little feature, never seen that b4
[16:16] <priyesh> NigeyS: is spacenearus okay.. or did you need something from em?
[16:17] <NigeyS> its fine i think
[16:17] <priyesh> okay thanks :)
[16:17] <fsphil> tracker is all ready for tomorrow
[16:17] <priyesh> thanks
[16:18] <priyesh> anyone tacking from the Netherlands / Germany tomorrow
[16:18] <fsphil> there's always someone in the atlantic ocean :)
[16:18] <jonsowman> haha
[16:18] <fsphil> good opportunity for a distance record if someone does
[16:18] <priyesh> :P
[16:18] <NigeyS> o phil memory card came today, can test crap-o-camm properly now
[16:18] <fsphil> yays!
[16:18] <NigeyS> hey jonsowman
[16:18] <jonsowman> hi there NigeyS
[16:18] <jonsowman> how are you
[16:18] <NigeyS> full of flu :(
[16:19] <NigeyS> u?
[16:19] <fsphil> lower your expectations NigeyS :)
[16:19] <jonsowman> oh dear
[16:19] <jonsowman> yes i'm fine thanks :)
[16:19] <NigeyS> gd gd, so what time is launch tomorrow ?
[16:19] <Dan-K2VOL1> what's this about a distance record eh?
[16:19] <priyesh> 11 AM BST ISH
[16:19] <fsphil> actually to be fair, the crap-cam I got is pretty good. just a rubbish interface
[16:20] <fsphil> Dan-K2VOL1, 10mw 70cm reception range :)
[16:20] <NigeyS> ahh
[16:20] <jonsowman> CUSF trakotron will be up and running
[16:20] <Dan-K2VOL1> ahh ok
[16:20] <fsphil> Dan-K2VOL1, currently 570km
[16:20] <Dan-K2VOL1> *put away balloon distance record defense lasers*
[16:20] <jonsowman> haha
[16:21] <fsphil> lol
[16:21] <Dan-K2VOL1> ;-)
[16:21] <fsphil> the actual record is like 3000km isn't it? on HF?
[16:21] <NigeyS> have u announced it to the relevant lists for it to be a valid record? :p
[16:21] <jonsowman> NigeyS: yes
[16:21] <NigeyS> :D
[16:21] <Dan-K2VOL1> wait 70cm reception?
[16:21] <fsphil> yea
[16:21] <fsphil> 434mhz
[16:21] <Dan-K2VOL1> going to try for tropospheric ducting?
[16:22] <fsphil> I think it's line of sight
[16:22] <NigeyS> duct tape? :|
[16:22] <Dan-K2VOL1> tropo ducting is very interesting, it's been seen on APRS analyses before
[16:22] <Dan-K2VOL1> though I don't know if from balloons yet
[16:23] <fsphil> there are times I get the signal earlier than I should, that may be some kind of ducting
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[16:23] <fsphil> wonder what the weather is to be tomorrow, might head up the hill
[16:23] <Dan-K2VOL1> hmm looks like someone has made a handy Tropospheric Ducting Predictor! http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo_eur.html
[16:24] <fsphil> "Heavy Rain"
[16:24] <fsphil> well there goes that idea :)
[16:24] <Dan-K2VOL1> too bad you can't spin the balloon like a rotary window on a ship :-P
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[16:24] <griffonbot> @apexhab: #apexhab team heading up to Cambridge for Alpha launch. #ukhas [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/127420118891380736]
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[16:25] <fsphil> ooh good propagation forecast for tonight
[16:25] <fsphil> over the irish sea
[16:26] <fsphil> and tomorrow over south coast of the uk and europe
[16:26] <fsphil> someone in germany should try receiving it
[16:26] <fsphil> a challenge for lunar lander :)
[16:27] <Zuph> Hmm.. I wonder how many buckets full of cement would reasonably hold down my hf antenna...
[16:28] <NigeyS> lol Zuph is it rather large or something? :|
[16:29] <Zuph> 8m or so or antenna alone.
[16:29] <Zuph> Need a temporary installation, don't want to bother with drilling holes in the side of the building.
[16:32] <Dan-K2VOL1> Zuph just use 1 and then guy it to some things
[16:32] <NigeyS> :o
[16:32] <Dan-K2VOL1> or throw the rope thru trees
[16:32] <Dan-K2VOL1> I've had HF antennas on tree ropes stay up for 5 years
[16:32] <Dan-K2VOL1> they do come down eventually, but at that point it's time to replace/resolder anyway
[16:32] <Zuph> Dan-K2VOL1: Talking about the multiband vertical
[16:33] <Dan-K2VOL1> yeah, I'm talking about guy wires :-)
[16:33] <Dan-K2VOL1> or ropes
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[16:34] <Zuph> I was going to put the thing on the roof. I think they guys would have to be sunk in concrete buckets, too. Not a lot to securely tie off to up there.
[16:35] <Dan-K2VOL1> oh, you could do the concrete block on a frame mount style
[16:35] <Zuph> ?
[16:37] <Dan-K2VOL1> non-penetrating roof mounts http://www.3starinc.com/non-penetrating_roof_mount_60_inch_mast_with_1_25_inch_o_d_.html
[16:41] <Zuph> For the big vertical, I was thinking 4 buckets of concrete to guy it down would be cheaper than something like that.
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[16:43] <Dan-K2VOL1> oh are you talking about at the hackerspace?
[16:43] <Dan-K2VOL1> zuph
[16:47] <Zuph> Dan-K2VOL1: Yep
[17:01] <Dan-K2VOL1> guying won't be a problem, it's very very easy to drill tapcons into brick
[17:01] <Dan-K2VOL1> with a normal drill
[17:04] <Zuph> Dan-K2VOL1: Is there any brick exposed above the rubber roof lining? I don't remember there being any, but my memory is likely fauilty.
[17:06] <Dan-K2VOL1> yeah, the sidewalls are fairly tall if I recall, but a re-survey would be recommended
[17:07] <Zuph> I'll check again. That would simplify things.
[17:17] <Zuph> I hate going up on the roof, though. Why can't se just send a robot, damnit.
[17:19] <SpeedEvil> The polish are cheaper.
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[17:31] <Dan-K2VOL1> we could also just put a ladder up into the skylight upstairs ;-) it's got peaked windows
[17:35] <eroomde> speaking of which, i have the warm man afterglow of having just put up shelves
[17:35] <jonsowman> haha
[17:36] Action: SpeedEvil just replaced a roof.
[17:37] <SpeedEvil> Okay, it was the roof on an ex-portaloo, that I just repainted.
[17:39] <eroomde> no need to disambiguate
[17:39] <eroomde> sounds better
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[17:39] <SpeedEvil> It was getting a bit rusty, and needed a couple of holes fixing around the sides.
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[17:40] <eroomde> so, sparkfun now do manly steppers http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10847
[17:40] <SpeedEvil> Fortunately, one coat of Landrover Light Stone paint later, it looks quite good.
[17:40] <eroomde> and appropriate cheap driver boards
[17:40] <eroomde> so i think one might be able to do an open source az/el for ~£150 based around them
[17:40] <eroomde> maybe even £100
[17:41] Action: SpeedEvil needs to charachterise his barrel of steppers.
[17:42] <Dan-K2VOL1> I can help SpeedEvil - Properties: isBarrel = true, contains steppers = true
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[18:31] <nosebleedKT> Hi all
[18:31] <fsphil> g'day
[18:31] <nosebleedKT> how is life here? Im missing thing due to work :)
[18:31] <nosebleedKT> things*
[18:31] <fsphil> not much change from here .. recovered from the trip to london :)
[18:31] <fsphil> you?
[18:32] <nosebleedKT> fsphil: today i gave another interiew for linux administration position
[18:32] <nosebleedKT> so im currently working and keep giving interviews
[18:32] <fsphil> that's a good plan
[18:32] <nosebleedKT> that interview was the 3rd in this company
[18:32] <eroomde> that's not a bad sign
[18:33] <eroomde> they're willing to invest a lot of time on you
[18:33] <nosebleedKT> yes they told me that
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[18:33] <nosebleedKT> they chose 3 final people from about 600 CVs
[18:33] <nosebleedKT> and i was 1 :)
[18:34] <nosebleedKT> took 2.5 months to decide
[18:34] <nosebleedKT> :P
[18:34] <eroomde> wow
[18:34] <nosebleedKT> 1 IT position in a 1.000.000 people city
[18:35] <eroomde> well, if you can get a job in the current climate, you're all set
[18:35] <nosebleedKT> yes,
[18:35] <nosebleedKT> they asked me how much i want
[18:35] <nosebleedKT> for money
[18:35] <fsphil> I never like that question
[18:35] <nosebleedKT> i said i never worked before, im new so i cant answer
[18:36] <nosebleedKT> but they do employ me
[18:36] <nosebleedKT> and give me basic salary which is 780e currently
[18:37] <nosebleedKT> which means ~950e all together
[18:37] <nosebleedKT> and that is a treasure in this city right now
[18:37] <nosebleedKT> we had 1.5hrs discussion
[18:38] <nosebleedKT> but we talked for social matters too
[18:39] <eroomde> fsphil: agreed
[18:40] <eroomde> i think the trick is to just shoot for double what you think is reasonable
[18:40] <eroomde> fortune favours the brave
[18:40] <eroomde> also you hear so many stories of indy consultants who tried, tentatively, doubling their hourly fee and all of a sudden they had more business from better clients
[18:41] <fsphil> yea
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[19:56] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[19:56] <daveake_> LO
[19:56] <Lunar_Lander> I PASSED PHYSICS 2!
[19:57] <daveake_> I PASSED WIND
[19:57] <daveake_> :)
[19:57] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL
[19:57] <daveake_> Well done!
[19:57] <Lunar_Lander> thanks :)
[19:57] <fsphil> congrats daveake_ !
[19:58] <fsphil> and well done Lunar_Lander :)
[19:58] <daveake_> At last, after years of atrocities and the apalling treatment of millions, its over. The details are still sketchy but finally...
[19:58] <daveake_> ... Westlife are splitting up.
[19:58] <fsphil> yays
[19:58] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[19:58] <Lunar_Lander> thanks fsphil
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[20:03] <Laurenceb_> physics 2? whats that
[20:04] <Laurenceb_> is that like internet 2.0
[20:04] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[20:04] <Lunar_Lander> electrodynamics/electronics and optics
[20:04] <daveake_> So now you can make a zoom camera?
[20:04] <Lunar_Lander> :P in theory
[20:04] <daveake_> :)
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[20:05] <costyn> question about Arduino's.. i have what appears to be a perfectly working seeedstudio stalker, but when I upload my flight computer code it just sits there after upload; nothing on serial, i can't even get the led13 to blink (which works ok in short sketches). is my code too large? what are the symptoms when code is too large?
[20:05] Nick change: phil__ -> fsphil
[20:06] <Laurenceb_> Lunar_Lander: university then? which year?
[20:06] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:06] <Lunar_Lander> this is kind of 1st year stuff
[20:07] <Laurenceb_> ah
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> I only lagged behind a bit
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[20:28] <phil__> arrays in C are a pain
[20:32] <costyn> well... that was it... my sketch was too large; unfortunate it seems like the max value set in the Arduino IDE is not the actual max of the 328 on the stalker
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[20:34] <Lunar_Lander> hi Dan-K2VOL
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[20:41] Action: costyn away
[20:41] Action: fsphil power up!
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[20:55] <Dan-K2VOL1> hi lunar_lander
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> hi Paradoxial
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[21:04] <Paradoxial> Hi Lunar
[21:04] <Paradoxial> How's it going?
[21:08] <costyn> http://hackaday.com/2011/10/21/going-for-the-amateur-balloon-altitude-record/ just been posted
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[21:09] <costyn> hope the tracker doesn't get slashdotted
[21:15] <Lunar_Lander> I'm good, thanks Paradoxial and you?
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[21:29] <Paradoxial> Lunar_Lander: Pretty good, What's this talk of a record amateur balloon?
[21:34] <Upu> "at the UK altitude record"
[21:34] <Upu> no no no
[21:34] <Upu> the world record :)
[21:34] <Upu> hmm good point costyn
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[21:35] <Upu> however they aren't going to try recover
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[21:41] <phil__> no recovery?
[21:41] <phil__> sea landing?
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> Paradoxial : sorry I didn't really notice that
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> costyn : do you try an altitude record or so?
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[21:53] <Upu> phil = fsphil ?
[21:53] <NigelMoby> Yup
[21:53] <Upu> should be back shortly I guess
[21:55] <NigelMoby> Ya
[21:57] <NigelMoby> Dam hamsters ate my milkybar :(
[21:58] <Upu> they'll be getting fat
[21:58] <Upu> I have to ask
[21:58] <Upu> hamsters cage
[21:58] <Upu> access to milky br ?
[21:58] <Upu> bar
[21:59] <NigelMoby> Oh he was running round on the bed
[21:59] <Upu> oh of course as they do
[21:59] <NigelMoby> Lol, darent put him on the floor is never find him.
[21:59] <NigelMoby> I'd
[21:59] <Upu> yeah
[22:00] <NigelMoby> He's quite tame compared to the last 1
[22:01] <Upu> I had a hamster once
[22:01] <Upu> died in the most dramatic way
[22:01] <NigelMoby> Oh?
[22:01] <Upu> keeled over all four paws up right made a squeek then died
[22:01] <NigelMoby> Lol Aww
[22:01] <Upu> almost like he was pretending
[22:01] <Upu> sadly he wasn't
[22:01] <Paradoxial> Heart attack>
[22:01] <Upu> yeah
[22:02] <NigelMoby> Ww bless him
[22:02] <Upu> Que Dr Hibbert from the Simpsons
[22:02] <Upu> "I'm afraid there is nothing we can do" before firing him at a hoop and basket above a flip bin
[22:02] <NigelMoby> Last 1 died in my hand :(
[22:02] <NigelMoby> Lol
[22:03] <Paradoxial> I had a hamster once. My cat stepped on it. :/
[22:03] <Paradoxial> They always liked to play with each other
[22:03] <Upu> god my dog wouldn't play he'd grab it shake it to death
[22:03] <Upu> if it moves and its furry its game
[22:04] <Upu> he once got a field mouse that was unfortunate enough to run across our path , so incredibly quick just pure instinct
[22:05] <NigelMoby> Yikes, our cats scared of the hammy.
[22:06] <NigelMoby> http://t.co/XSAtsskj
[22:06] <Upu> damn hamster cages are cool these days
[22:07] <NigelMoby> Lol dam right
[22:09] <Upu> Check out the ferocious killing machine http://imagebin.org/180199
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[22:10] <Upu> And him playing with his mate http://imagebin.org/180200 :) Anyway sorry dragging the channel off topic :)
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[22:11] <Laurenceb_> what envelope is apex using?
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[22:12] <NigelMoby> 2000g howyee Iirc
[22:12] <Laurenceb_> hmm should be interesting
[22:12] <Laurenceb_> from previous flights i think it uses thicker rubber
[22:13] <Upu> looking forward to it
[22:13] <NigelMoby> Which way is it headed?
[22:13] <Laurenceb_> be interesting to see if it superpressurises suprisingly low
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[22:14] <Upu> the sea
[22:14] <NigelMoby> Eek
[22:15] <phil__> that apex?
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[22:15] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=c2ca90550cb47abb59e4a51965bd6ab7c3d72173
[22:15] <Lunar_Lander> good night
[22:15] <Upu> wb fsphil
[22:15] <Upu> nn Lunar_Lander
[22:15] <NigelMoby> Haha like hell is my mobile gonna open habhub
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[22:16] <fsphil> it might
[22:16] <fsphil> the predictor probably isn't as heavy
[22:16] <fsphil> ooh splishy splashy
[22:16] <NigelMoby> It does but the overlay is all screwed up
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[22:45] <Laurenceb_> Upu: commenting on hackaday eh?
[22:45] <Upu> might have done...
[22:45] <Laurenceb_> dont say anything bad about arduino :P
[22:45] <Laurenceb_> or theyll permaban you XD
[22:45] <Upu> lol
[22:45] <jonsowman> i'm amazed it got on hackaday before launch
[22:46] <Upu> see if it causes any significant traffic to natrium42's server tommorrow
[22:49] <fsphil> cool, getting lots of had attention now
[22:51] <Upu> right bed time good luck tommorrow
[22:51] <jonsowman> thanks Upu
[22:51] <jonsowman> catch you on irc at some point :)
[22:52] <fsphil> night Upu
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[22:56] <fsphil> anyone got a screenshot of the BUZZ flight path on spacenear.us?
[23:00] <Paradoxial> Is Hackaday sponsored by Arduino or something?
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[23:42] <Laurenceb_> haha
[23:47] <zyp> more like the major part of the readers is arduino fanboys
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