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[05:00] <NigelMoby> Moooorning
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[05:00] <fsphil-m> Morning all
[05:00] <NigelMoby> Hey Phil
[05:00] <Darkside> hey all
[05:00] <NigelMoby> Hey ds
[05:00] <Darkside> http://imgur.com/Q8Wav.jpg
[05:01] <fsphil-m> Oh hi nigeys!
[05:01] <NigelMoby> This train rox
[05:01] <Darkside> haha first great western
[05:01] <Darkside> you'll be going through bath!
[05:01] <NigelMoby> Yey
[05:01] <Darkside> if you don't die in the severn tunnel
[05:01] <NigelMoby> Hey ds look at the tracker
[05:02] <Darkside> i saw picochu
[05:02] <Darkside> what happened?
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[05:02] <NigelMoby> We did a pico last night
[05:02] <NigelMoby> Batt died at -15
[05:02] <Darkside> lolwut
[05:02] <Darkside> what battery did you use?
[05:03] <NigelMoby> Lipo
[05:03] <Darkside> well theres your problem
[05:04] <NigelMoby> I know :(
[05:05] <Darkside> anyway, i got micronut down to 47g :D
[05:05] <Darkside> should last for about 6-7 hours off AAAs
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[05:08] <fsphil-laptop> yay, proper keyboard
[05:08] <fsphil-laptop> we're in Newport at the moment
[05:08] <Darkside> lol
[05:08] <Darkside> now you can see it: http://imgur.com/Q8Wav.jpg
[05:09] <fsphil-laptop> you fill that with helium or what?
[05:09] <Darkside> uhh
[05:10] <Darkside> no, thats teh payload
[05:10] <Darkside> that gets attached to a balloon
[05:10] <fsphil-laptop> I know :p
[05:10] <Darkside> pff
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[05:10] <NigelMoby> Daveeey
[05:11] <Darkside> sorry, i can't do that dave
[05:13] <daveake> Neither can I :(
[05:15] <daveake> I honestly think I ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.
[05:15] <daveake> :)
[05:16] <Darkside> :/
[05:16] <daveake> Daisy, Daisy .....
[05:17] <daveake> Anyway, Buzz is looking good except I noticed yesterday that he's sending out the speed in knots not kph.
[05:17] <daveake> Easy fix of course
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[05:32] <fsphil-laptop> survived the tunnel
[05:35] <Darkside> cool
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[05:43] <fsphil-m> wibbly wobbly tracks on this train
[05:43] <fsphil-m> it's like being on a boat
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[05:50] <fsphil-m> Just past Swindon
[05:50] <fsphil-m> still dark outside
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[05:59] <niftylettuce_> hey guys im looking for a very cheap wireless camera
[06:00] <niftylettuce_> any idea?
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[06:01] <fsphil-m> ebay
[06:02] <niftylettuce_> link?
[06:02] <niftylettuce_> i found a bunch
[06:02] <niftylettuce_> but they aren't the barebone wifi/camera im looking for
[06:02] <niftylettuce_> i need something dirt cheap.
[06:03] <niftylettuce_> all it does it output video basically
[06:03] <niftylettuce_> im almost thinking a webcam with a usb receiver would be cheaper...
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[06:12] <WillDMobile> ...i'm on the train...
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[06:12] <fsphil-m> WillDMobile, snap
[06:12] <fsphil-m> we're in didcot (sp?)
[06:13] <cuddykid> I'm leaving soon for the train :)
[06:13] <Darkside> didcot parkway
[06:13] <sbasuita> fsphil-m: very early?
[06:13] <WillDMobile> You'll be in time for breaky
[06:13] <fsphil-m> sbasuita, cheaper :)
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[06:13] <cuddykid> if the train has power ports - will tether and be online :)
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[06:14] <fsphil-m> this one has power
[06:14] <fsphil-m> running the laptop of it
[06:14] <cuddykid> nice
[06:14] <cuddykid> I'm hopeful that my one will have power - got some work to do
[06:14] <WillDMobile> Same here, brought phone charger
[06:15] <Darkside> not all seats in the first great western trains have power
[06:15] <eroomde> picked a hell of a day transport-wise
[06:15] <fsphil-m> the seats with a table all seem to
[06:15] <WillDMobile> Cracking morning
[06:15] <eroomde> it's impossible to get within about 2 miles of angel via the tube
[06:15] <eroomde> everything close is closed
[06:15] <Darkside> oh what
[06:15] <fsphil-m> lovely sunrise here - and a nice mist clinging to the ground
[06:15] <Darkside> poor guys
[06:15] <fsphil-m> taxi
[06:15] <eroomde> i think i'll take the victoria line to kings cross then taxi
[06:16] <eroomde> that means i'll have to take the bus to victoria
[06:16] <eroomde> which means i need to get a shifty on
[06:16] <sbasuita> anybody else catching the 09:45 from reading to paddington?
[06:16] <eroomde> sbasuita: well, if i get the 9am train from ox
[06:16] <eroomde> i'll probably be on it
[06:17] <eroomde> but that takes me to paddington and there's nothing running from pad to angel
[06:17] <fsphil-m> we're heading to paddington
[06:17] <sbasuita> eroomde: i was planning on taking the tube to kings cross
[06:17] <fsphil-m> what happens after that I'm not sure :)
[06:17] <sbasuita> then less than a mile walk
[06:17] <eroomde> it's just over 3 miles on the road
[06:17] <eroomde> well, we could all meet at paddington
[06:17] <eroomde> and share a taxi
[06:17] <sbasuita> good shout
[06:17] <WillDMobile> Im on the great western getting to pad at 9.20
[06:18] <sbasuita> well i'll be a pad at 10:14
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[06:18] <eroomde> sbasuita: what time are you getting in?
[06:18] <eroomde> I can be there at 10am
[06:18] <sbasuita> how much do you reckon a taxi would be?
[06:18] <eroomde> 3 miles....
[06:18] <eroomde> £20?
[06:18] <eroomde> quite a lot
[06:19] <eroomde> depends on traffic i guess
[06:19] <sbasuita> yah, can get a travelcard for 3 quid
[06:19] <eroomde> it's all just euston road the entire way
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[06:19] <eroomde> sbasuita: yup, but no tubes running from pad!
[06:19] <sbasuita> ;P
[06:19] <sbasuita> would have to go pad->baker street, change to get to kings cross
[06:19] <eroomde> fsphil-m: what time do you arrive in pad?
[06:19] <sbasuita> maybe just cycle
[06:20] <fsphil-m> eroomde, just after 8:00
[06:20] <eroomde> ok
[06:20] <eroomde> it looks like our arrival times are all quite disparate
[06:20] <eroomde> right, i must dash
[06:20] <sbasuita> see you
[06:20] <eroomde> i think i'll just get the bus sbasuita
[06:21] <eroomde> to victoria
[06:21] <cuddykid> boris bike!
[06:21] <cuddykid> £1 for 24hr
[06:21] <cuddykid> provided each journey is 30mins or under I think
[06:22] <fsphil-m> we're considering that
[06:22] <cuddykid> there are docking stations everywhere (2 very close to the hub)
[06:22] <fsphil-m> do you pay at the station?
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[06:22] <cuddykid> fsphil-m: yeah, with card I think :)
[06:23] <cuddykid> what's your eta?
[06:23] <daveake> You guys should all have trackers so you appear on the map ... this could have been more exciting than watching a flight :p
[06:23] <fsphil-m> we'll be in padding just after 8:00 cuddykid
[06:23] <Darkside> lol
[06:24] <cuddykid> haha
[06:24] <cuddykid> fsphil-m: awesome! nice and early
[06:24] <fsphil-m> we had nigey's phone running the chase program but it doesn't seem to be updating
[06:24] <daveake> :(
[06:24] <cuddykid> if any one has iPhone could use find my friends lol
[06:24] <Darkside> or google latitude
[06:24] <fsphil-m> amazing mist outside
[06:24] <cuddykid> yup
[06:25] <fsphil-m> looks amazing
[06:26] <Darkside> pics
[06:26] <Darkside> or gtfo
[06:26] <Darkside> dammit i hope my net connection holds up well enough for smy skype talk
[06:26] <Darkside> :P
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[06:27] <fsphil-m> we've driven out of the fog now :p
[06:27] <Darkside> speaking of which i should probably work out what i'm going to say
[06:27] <WillDMobile> Did my pos appear on tracker?
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[06:28] <fsphil-m> don't see it, let me refresh
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[06:28] <costyn> morning all
[06:28] <rjharrison> Morning all
[06:28] <daveake> morning
[06:29] <fsphil-m> there are no chase cars on the map at all now
[06:29] <rjharrison> Anyone coming to the HAB conf today?
[06:29] <costyn> my what an activity here :)
[06:29] <daveake> :)
[06:29] <costyn> WillDMobile: I don't see anything either
[06:29] <fsphil-m> rjharrison, en route :)
[06:29] <daveake> Nope :(
[06:29] <cuddykid> rjharrison: yep
[06:29] <daveake> Off to work. <fume>
[06:29] <WillDMobile> We're all on the train :)
[06:29] <cuddykid> WillDMobile: no :(
[06:29] <fsphil-m> we're just at Reading
[06:29] <rjharrison> fsphil-m: cool are you pringing a video camera
[06:30] <rjharrison> Dawned on me that it was worth recording this
[06:30] <fsphil-m> rjharrison, got a canon yea
[06:30] <rjharrison> fsphil-m: mw too as it haapens Reading
[06:30] <rjharrison> what time train are you catching to london?
[06:30] <fsphil-m> we're on the train now
[06:30] <rjharrison> fsphil-m: cool jcoxon said that you might be bringing one
[06:31] <rjharrison> I'm going to get a load of lables and a marker for name tags
[06:31] <cuddykid> good idea
[06:31] <rjharrison> Cool what time do the doors open so to speak
[06:31] <cuddykid> 10:30 i think
[06:32] <daveake> I was going to wear a Buzz Lightyear t-shirt in lieu of wearing a name tag :p
[06:32] <WillDMobile> Think upu has name tags sorted
[06:32] <rjharrison> you are going to be quite early then fsphil-m
[06:32] <fsphil-m> too early, but it was a much cheaper train ticker
[06:33] <fsphil-m> ticket
[06:33] <WillDMobile> Got a red geeky altitude t shirt on if anyone spots me
[06:33] <fsphil-m> yay we're on the map
[06:34] <rjharrison> which map? fsphil are you on lattitude?
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[06:34] <Darkside> rjharrison: on spacenear.us
[06:34] <rjharrison> lol
[06:34] <cuddykid> wow - just seen how far I've got to travel from Nottingham - 1hr 50 is pretty decent train time for a fairly long journey
[06:34] <Darkside> note that i'm clearing the tracker in a little over 12 hours
[06:34] <daveake> :)
[06:35] <daveake> What time's your flight Darkside?
[06:35] <rjharrison> Possibly beforw I thnk Upu wants to do some demo tracking today
[06:35] <Darkside> approx 10AM CDT
[06:35] <Darkside> about 2330UTC
[06:35] <daveake> What's that in real money?
[06:35] <daveake> Ta :)
[06:35] <Darkside> its going to be our first pico payload
[06:35] <Darkside> 47.6 grabs
[06:35] <rjharrison> Coool
[06:35] <Darkside> grams*
[06:36] <daveake> Balloon( s) ?
[06:36] <Darkside> rjharrison: i'll be presenting it in my mini talk
[06:36] <Darkside> only one balloon sadly
[06:36] <Darkside> predictions are crap
[06:36] <rjharrison> Looking forward to today. Should be fun
[06:36] <Darkside> so yeah, i'm gonna give a short talk on project horus, the 'nut' series of payload trackers
[06:37] <Darkside> and our pico payload
[06:37] <Darkside> it kind of fits after jcoxons pico talk :-)
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[06:38] <daveake> OK, off to work. Have a GREAT day guys. Hope to see some of you tomorrow morning for Buzz's flight.
[06:38] <NigelMoby> Weeeeeeeeee
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[06:43] <cuddykid> signing off - time to catch train
[06:43] <fsphil-m> Approaching Slough
[06:43] <cuddykid> will try and log on on the train - if not, catch you later at the conf!
[06:44] <fsphil-m> see you cuddykid
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[06:49] <fsphil-m> going verrrry slowly through slough
[06:49] <fsphil-m> also there's a smell of burning rubber
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[06:56] <fsphil-m> we're nearly in paddington, going offline :)
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[07:05] <costyn> interesting reading for Horus on the tracker
[07:05] <Darkside> yeah
[07:06] <Darkside> the ublox 6 module gives some ... interesting values before it gets lock
[07:06] <Darkside> and i'm not sure why
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[07:08] <UpuMobile> morning
[07:09] <WillDMobile> Bbl
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[07:10] <number10> morning
[07:12] <number10> looks like fs_phil and NigeyS are not far from london by the positions of chase cars on the traker
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[07:19] <fsphil-m> Brr, cold in Paddington
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[07:22] <number10> had a frost overnight here
[07:25] <fsphil-m> Seen some frost on the way
[07:26] <UpuMobile> hey fsphil
[07:26] <UpuMobile> paddington already
[07:26] <UpuMobile> you're going to be there early
[07:26] <fsphil-m> Yea, we're going to get some breakfast
[07:26] <rjharrison> fsphil-m: do you have a mobile number
[07:27] <rjharrison> fsphil-m: we = ?
[07:28] <fsphil-m> Whoops, small keyboard annoying
[07:28] <fsphil-m> Me and notetaker
[07:28] <rjharrison> fsphil-m: cOOL
[07:28] <rjharrison> opps
[07:28] <fsphil-m> Er, nigeys
[07:29] <rjharrison> do you want to give me a txt on 07740947814
[07:29] <UpuMobile> could be niftylettuce
[07:29] <rjharrison> Will give you a call when in your proximity
[07:29] <niftylettuce_> UpuMobile: suggestions?
[07:29] <rjharrison> Just going to grab breakfast
[07:30] <rjharrison> jumping train at 850
[07:30] <UpuMobile> no great nickname just breaks my auto complete of nigeys :)
[07:31] <UpuMobile> you're the best lurker in the world niftylettuce
[07:31] <niftylettuce_> UpuMobile: =) hehe
[07:31] <niftylettuce_> only a matter of time before I no longer lurk
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[07:45] <jonsowman> morning all
[07:46] <number10> morning
[07:46] <EI5GTB> morning
[07:49] <Darkside> evening
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[07:51] <AndChat-> Oioi
[07:52] Nick change: AndChat- -> nigeys
[07:52] Nick change: nigeys -> nigeyslob
[07:52] <jonsowman> hello nigeyslob :P
[07:52] <nigeyslob> Lol Ello
[07:52] <nigeyslob> Paddington is huuuuuge
[07:52] <futurity> Morning. On the train heading to the conference today :)
[07:53] <jonsowman> hi futurity, see you soon then :)
[07:53] <futurity> Hi
[07:53] <jonsowman> nigeyslob: hehe yeah it's pretty big
[07:53] <nigeyslob> Cost me 30p to have a Pee!!!!!
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[07:53] <jonsowman> yes, as in most london national rail stations
[07:53] <jonsowman> bit annoying
[07:53] <nigeyslob> That's extortion lol
[07:54] <futurity> The circle and northern lines are planned to be closed today. Angle is on northern line which is a pain.
[07:54] <fsphil-m> Mmmm, McFood
[07:54] <jonsowman> futurity: it's the bank branch of the northern line between camden and kennington
[07:54] <jonsowman> so best to get to Kings X (via whatever line) and walk to angel
[07:54] <jonsowman> 15 min walk, ish
[07:55] <WillDMobile> U guys going to stick around at the station?
[07:55] <futurity> Cool. Need a walk after sitting on train. Wondering if I should pop to Coventry garden to see 4gs before 10am
[07:55] <nigeyslob> Yup we in McDonald's atm
[07:55] <futurity> At kings cross?
[07:55] <UpuMobile> its about a mile walk
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[07:56] <UpuMobile> ok see you there
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[07:56] <nosebleedKT> hi all
[07:56] <nigeyslob> Paddington
[07:56] <nosebleedKT> weather gets like UK here and it sucks
[07:56] <jonsowman> it's beautiful here in surrey this morning
[07:56] <fsphil-m> Weather is great here
[07:57] <futurity> Blue Alton Cambridge.
[07:57] <futurity> Sky*
[07:57] <fsphil-m> We borrowed your weather :)
[07:57] <jonsowman> are you getting the cam-> kings x train futurity?
[07:58] <nosebleedKT> climate-swap
[07:58] <nosebleedKT> you took but you didnt ask :p
[07:58] <futurity> Yep on the train now. Got on at Royston. Gets in 9:30am I think
[07:58] <jonsowman> futurity: nice and easy for you then :)
[07:59] <futurity> Yep but I'll get there an hour early so may pop somewhere on tube first.
[08:00] <futurity> What time is everyone planning to start walking from kings cross?
[08:01] <jonsowman> i'm meeting people at victoria but i'll be at kings x about 10.30 i imagine
[08:01] <futurity> Ok I'll get there before 10:30.
[08:06] <DanielRichman> Just got a text from number ending 7841
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[08:11] <WillDMobile> 20 mins nigeyslob fsphil-m
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[08:11] <jonsowman> is there any particular dress code today guys?
[08:12] <nigeyslob> Oki
[08:12] <futurity> Must be dressed I. Clothes mad from balloons ;)
[08:12] <jonsowman> haha
[08:13] <jonsowman> hmm that could be difficult
[08:13] <futurity> Grr iPhone predictive text not working well today.
[08:14] <jonsowman> i've seen worse...
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[08:14] <futurity> Anyone on the Cambridge to kings cross train getting in at 9:33
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[08:15] <cuddykid> Hi all :) on the train now
[08:15] <cuddykid> but v dodgy internet
[08:16] <Randomskk> #highaltitude is filled with people on trains today, for some reason
[08:16] <cuddykid> had a last minute change of plan as the train I was meant to catch was delayed - typical
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[08:16] <cuddykid> haha
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[08:25] <eroomde> i'm on a bus
[08:25] <eroomde> just coming to shepartds bush
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[08:26] <cuddykid> just over an hr until I arrive at st pancras
[08:26] <eroomde> i'm on a buuuuuuuus
[08:26] <cuddykid> left leicester (last stop) now express to london
[08:26] <cuddykid> eroomde: can't you boris bike?!
[08:28] <eroomde> not from oxford cuddykid
[08:28] <eroomde> i'm only so commited to hab
[08:28] <cuddykid> oh right! I thought you were in london lol
[08:28] <cuddykid> that would be commitment
[08:28] <eroomde> am just getting to victoria
[08:28] <eroomde> then will tube to kings cross
[08:28] <eroomde> then taxi
[08:28] <eroomde> convoluted but all the tubes to angel are down
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[08:31] <cuddykid> yup, the tubes scuppered my plans - though it's only about a mile from st pancreas so not too bad
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[08:33] <cuddykid> anyone know if there's a way to monitor how much data consumed via personal hotspot on iPhone?
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[08:34] <WillDMobile> Fsphil, where abouts r u guys?
[08:34] <nigeyslob> Main entrance
[08:35] <cuddykid> nice nigeyslob
[08:35] <nigeyslob> Hey hey
[08:36] <cuddykid> hiya :)
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[08:38] <Darkside> ITS WORKING, ITS WORKING.....
[08:38] <Darkside> http://spacenear.us/tracker/
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[08:38] <Darkside> its a bit dodgy
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[08:38] <Darkside> yeah that fucked up
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[08:43] <Darkside> oh wtf is going on
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[08:46] <Darkside> my goodness, my text is getting mangled
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[08:47] <earthshine> o/
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[08:57] <UpuMobile> morning from the hub
[08:58] <Darkside> UpuMobile: look at the tracker
[08:58] <Darkside> also add me on Skype: darksidelemm
[08:58] <Darkside> im heading out to get food
[08:59] <UpuMobile> lol
[08:59] <nosebleedKT> ping fsphil
[09:00] <nosebleedKT> fsphil: https://github.com/nosebleed/JpegTTLCam
[09:00] <nosebleedKT> :)
[09:02] <Darkside> UpuMobile: I spent way too lobg on the code for that
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[09:03] <DanielRichman> me and sbasuita are just arriving at paddington: anyone near?
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[09:09] <UpuMobile> anyone got the stream open ?
[09:11] <costyn> UpuMobile: got a link?
[09:11] <number10> yeo
[09:11] <costyn> o wait it was in the email
[09:11] <number10> stream see a brick wall
[09:12] <costyn> works nicely
[09:12] <costyn> quality is good
[09:12] <number10> sound if fine
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[09:15] <daveake> weeeee?
[09:15] <UpuMobile> sound ?
[09:15] <daveake> Yes
[09:15] <costyn> Darkside: nice rickroll! haha
[09:15] <costyn> UpuMobile: sound is good
[09:16] <daveake> Sound nice and clear
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[09:25] <futurity> Hi anyone at or soon to be at kings cross station?
[09:28] <cuddykid_> futurity: is Kings cross by st pancreas?
[09:28] <cuddykid_> if so, I'm arriving in about 10mins
[09:29] <futurity> Yep by st p. I'm in whsmiths in the Linux computer mag section if you want to meet up?
[09:29] <futurity> Whsmiths in kings cross ;)
[09:30] <cuddykid_> cool! I'll be about 10/15 mins I reckon - how are you planning to get to the hub? walk?
[09:31] <futurity> Walk yes 0.8 miles. Not too far. Well be there before a bus arrives.
[09:32] <cuddykid_> sounds good - I don't want to hold you back so you carry on if you want! I'm just sitting here on the way into st pancras
[09:32] <cuddykid_> we've stopped
[09:33] <cuddykid_> ooo.. a eurostar just went by
[09:34] <futurity> Well may as well wait. Less scary getting lost with someone else although have iPhone
[09:35] <cuddykid_> ok, no probs - I'll pm you my number - that way it'll be easier when I get off!
[09:36] <cuddykid_> I'm signing off now to pack up - I'll try and find you in whsmiths!
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[09:40] <futurity> Back
[09:41] <futurity> At kings cross still if any wants to walk with us.
[09:42] <Darkside> OMG
[09:42] <Darkside> video
[09:43] <Darkside> UpuMobile: want to add me on skype
[09:43] <Darkside> hey its ed
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[09:43] <MrCraig-mobile> hi all
[09:43] <Darkside> and theres upu
[09:44] <Darkside> no sound
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[09:45] <fsphil-laptop> good evening from the Hub :)
[09:46] <Darkside> hey fsphil-laptop
[09:46] <Darkside> can you find out whos computer i'm going to be skyping to
[09:46] <Darkside> and get that person to add me on skype, username is 'darksidelemm'
[09:46] <Darkside> or isnt there going to be fast enough net for that
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[09:46] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, rob's laptop
[09:46] <Darkside> hey jcoxon
[09:47] <Darkside> i'm apparently talking after you :P
[09:47] <UpuMobile> whats your skype name daveake
[09:47] <UpuMobile> err
[09:47] <UpuMobile> Darkside
[09:47] <number10> watch your language Darkside ;-)
[09:47] <Darkside> darksidelemm
[09:47] <Darkside> yes number10
[09:48] <Darkside> i plan to be a model australian
[09:48] <Darkside> strewth
[09:48] <fsphil-laptop> haha
[09:48] <number10> bonza
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[09:52] Action: costyn is getting no sound on the stream?
[09:52] <costyn> and who's that in the inset video?
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[09:53] <UpuMobile> fsphil
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[09:54] Nick change: Mik__ -> MikCx
[09:54] <fsphil-laptop> UpuMobile hi :)
[09:54] <number10> I cant see anyone with shorts on holding a balloon - so ed cant be there
[09:54] <Darkside> haha
[09:54] <Darkside> ed is there
[09:55] <costyn> UpuMobile: I'm not getting any sound on the stream; has it been muted?
[09:55] <UpuMobile> yes
[09:55] <costyn> ok
[09:55] <daveake> I see pink
[09:55] <Darkside> haha pink duct tape
[09:55] <Darkside> awesome
[09:56] <daveake> Now I know I have the right stream
[09:56] <MikCx> Hi all
[09:56] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[09:56] <fsphil-laptop> "Alarming Pink"
[09:57] <Darkside> heh
[09:58] Action: Darkside writes his talk
[09:58] <Darkside> >_>
[09:58] <Darkside> AUDIO!
[09:58] <Darkside> awesome
[09:58] <fsphil-laptop> woo
[09:58] Action: fsphil-laptop keeps quiet ;)
[09:58] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: SHOUT OUT
[09:58] <Darkside> >_>
[09:59] <Darkside> lol
[09:59] <Darkside> i'm just kidding
[09:59] <fsphil-laptop> :p
[09:59] <fsphil-laptop> welcome to the fsphil channel
[09:59] <fsphil-laptop> fsphil at all times
[09:59] <Darkside> oh thats you!
[09:59] <fsphil-laptop> yep
[09:59] <number10> sound is intermettent here
[09:59] <Darkside> nice
[09:59] <Darkside> :D
[10:00] <Darkside> goddamn this ineternet connection
[10:00] <Darkside> its being a right arse
[10:00] <number10> its a problem here too darkside
[10:00] <costyn> Darkside: my sound is intermittent too
[10:00] <Darkside> OUCH
[10:00] <Darkside> thats loud
[10:00] <Darkside> horrible ness on teh sound
[10:00] <Darkside> guys
[10:00] <fsphil-laptop> hmm
[10:01] <Darkside> its horrible
[10:01] <fsphil-laptop> quiet chatter in the room
[10:01] <Darkside> what the hell
[10:01] <fsphil-laptop> what are you hearing?
[10:01] <Darkside> like breaks in audio
[10:01] <Darkside> hmm
[10:01] <fsphil-laptop> anyone else hearing that?
[10:01] <Darkside> im attempting to refresh the page
[10:01] <number10> Was intermettent here
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[10:01] <Darkside> chrome just crashed
[10:01] <Darkside> wow
[10:01] <MikCx> Can anyone link me to any CHDK scripts for switching between automated Video/Picture
[10:02] <Dan-K2VOL> Looking good here, going out over white star ustream
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[10:02] <Darkside> now audio is working
[10:02] <Darkside> a bit intermittend
[10:02] <daveake> Audio breaking here too
[10:02] <Darkside> hopefully skype will work
[10:02] <Darkside> HI NIGEL
[10:02] <Darkside> I CAN SEE YOUUUU
[10:02] <daveake> Audio breaking a bit here
[10:02] <MikCx> or if you have used any on your own projects that I could look to port accross to a Powershot A480
[10:02] <Darkside> MikCx: they're all a bit busy at the moment
[10:03] <Dan-K2VOL> Oh audio breaking here too
[10:03] <MikCx> Ahh - of course& 15th!
[10:03] <doughecka> so the audio/video lag isn't me, but the source? :)
[10:04] <Dan-K2VOL> Well it's lagging on batc here for me too
[10:04] <MikCx> Will save my question till tomorrow, and get the feed up and a cuppa...
[10:04] <Dan-K2VOL> Perhaps they could cut video quality down
[10:05] <UpuMobile> any issues with video ?
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[10:05] <doughecka> k... just checkin...my laptop here REALLY sucks at this whole 'multi-tasking' thing... but my desktop seems to be handling the re-streaming justfine
[10:05] <costyn> UpuMobile: video is fine ; maybe a few frames dropped here and there, but not as noticable as with the sound
[10:05] <Darkside> its working ok
[10:05] <Darkside> i wonder what the lag is
[10:05] <number10> is there a limit on the bandwidth of the internet at the conference
[10:05] <costyn> sound is ok now tho
[10:05] <UpuMobile> ok
[10:05] <UpuMobile> probably
[10:05] Action: jonquark is in the audience....
[10:05] <Dan-K2VOL> Audio breaking up before now, but has stabilized.
[10:06] <Darkside> GET ON WITH IT
[10:06] <fsphil-laptop> :p
[10:07] <UpuMobile> no heckling :)
[10:07] <Darkside> you can heckle me all you want
[10:07] <daveake> :D
[10:07] <Dan-K2VOL> Is that james?
[10:07] <Darkside> yes
[10:07] <UpuMobile> yes
[10:07] <daveake> He claims to be
[10:07] <fsphil-laptop> it is
[10:07] <daveake> :)
[10:07] <doughecka> lol, Dan-K2VOL you have the con, I'm falling back into bed. :)
[10:08] <Dan-K2VOL> Roger, joe and lauren are here at lvl1, we haven't gone to bed yet!
[10:10] <MikCx> Will the feed be recorded to watch later?
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[10:10] <number10> i think so
[10:10] <doughecka> ah, y'all crazy. :P It's recording to disk, if there is a gap between 'talks' you can go into wirecast and hit that record button to stop, and when it starts up again it'll make a new file when you start it up again. but I've got lots of disk, so feel free to leave itrunning
[10:10] <fsphil-laptop> I think so -- I'm also videoing it, although I'm limited by battery
[10:10] <Darkside> heh
[10:10] <daveake> "Second flights never go well". SPLASH!
[10:10] <Darkside> i hope the skype thing will work
[10:10] <Darkside> this'll be fun
[10:12] <Dan-K2VOL> Can someone watch Whitestar ustream? I can't keep both up here
[10:12] <UpuMobile> late arrivals
[10:12] <number10> sounds like a bus load
[10:12] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: how many people are there?
[10:12] <doughecka> ouch
[10:12] <fsphil-laptop> load of people just arrived
[10:13] <fsphil-laptop> about 30
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[10:13] <costyn> haha wow
[10:13] <daveake> Rentacrowd
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[10:14] <Darkside> ok my talk is written
[10:14] <Darkside> yay
[10:15] <number10> can I have a rafle ticket :(
[10:15] <daveake> I thought you were going to cut it fine Darkside ;)
[10:15] <Darkside> ahh its just a short talk about the Nut series
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[10:15] <Darkside> not that much longer
[10:16] <doughecka> ttfn, Dan-K2VOL call me if something blows up horribly :P
[10:17] <Dan-K2VOL> Ok thx tad
[10:18] <Darkside> ullshit :P
[10:18] <Darkside> float at 38km for 24 hours
[10:18] <Darkside> :P
[10:19] <fsphil-laptop> haha
[10:19] <Darkside> we have this easy in australia
[10:19] <Darkside> we can just use APRS
[10:19] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[10:19] <Darkside> (well, where the APRS network covers)
[10:20] <fsphil-laptop> there is no aprs coverage outside the cities in the north of the uk
[10:20] <Darkside> damn
[10:20] <fsphil-laptop> so even if we could use it, it wouldn't be too useful for finding it on the ground
[10:20] <fsphil-laptop> good for tracking though
[10:20] <Darkside> yeah
[10:20] <Darkside> same problem here really
[10:20] <Darkside> but if we every try for a floater again we'll be flying APRS on it
[10:21] <Darkside> 27g!
[10:21] <Darkside> what
[10:21] <Darkside> is that WITH batteryeS?
[10:22] <Darkside> 2 AAAs are 15.24g.
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[10:23] <Darkside> oh man awesome
[10:23] <Darkside> feld-hell!
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[10:25] <daveake> I love that people are weighing components to 0.01g now :)
[10:25] <Darkside> that sounded like a yaesu
[10:25] <fsphil-laptop> certainly is
[10:25] <number10> your ear is well tuned Darkside
[10:25] <Darkside> ft817
[10:25] <Darkside> i know the startup sound
[10:25] <fsphil-laptop> 817
[10:25] <Darkside> is that 27g with batteries and gps?
[10:25] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[10:25] <daveake> "I'll name that receiver in one"
[10:25] <Darkside> and everything?
[10:27] <fsphil-laptop> will ask that shortly
[10:27] <Darkside> cool
[10:27] <Dan-K2VOL> U there in room fsphil-laptop ?
[10:27] <UpuMobile> he's just being the camera
[10:27] <fsphil-laptop> Dan-K2VOL, yea
[10:28] <number10> so the bleebs in between are just to help you tune in?
[10:28] <UpuMobile> yes
[10:30] <Darkside> + galileo
[10:30] <Darkside> thats explains so much
[10:31] <number10> cwn we gat james to post a close up picture of that joint on FSA03 later please
[10:31] <Darkside> my breakouts ate 9.87g
[10:31] <Darkside> are*
[10:31] <Darkside> aww
[10:31] <Darkside> cap weights 0.86g
[10:31] <Darkside> the weight comes from the big lump of ceramic that the antenna is formed around
[10:31] <costyn> number10: http://lh3.ggpht.com/-SXqG2HJkuOo/TGM_eMQTJAI/AAAAAAAAAMw/lGkGeC_Ex-s/egps-fsa03-module%252520-%2525204.jpg
[10:32] <number10> thanks costyn
[10:32] <number10> is the antenna conection I presume
[10:33] <costyn> number10: yea looks like someone made it stronger already in this case?
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[10:34] <Darkside> video is breaking up a bit now
[10:34] <Darkside> and audio
[10:34] <costyn> UpuMobile: would be useful to have people's slides in PDF form online before their talk starts...then us watching the stream can look at the slides too
[10:34] <UpuMobile> yeah sorry next year
[10:34] <costyn> UpuMobile: :) ok
[10:35] <UpuMobile> will reduce the bit ratey shortly
[10:35] <costyn> audio/video is still ok here
[10:35] <Darkside> i'm wondering how lagged i am
[10:35] <Darkside> its gotta be a bit
[10:38] <Darkside> not if you've moved a few km
[10:39] <russss> I'm at another conference so I can't even stream :(
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[10:41] <Darkside> yep i've gotta be lagged by a lot
[10:42] <number10> can someone ask in the QA session later were the info is for the balloon size rules please
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[10:43] <Dan-K2VOL> number10: Depends on country number10
[10:44] <number10> sorry, Dan-K2VOL I forgot international audience - I would be interested in the UK rules
[10:44] <UpuMobile> ok Darkside
[10:44] <UpuMobile> will be calling shortly
[10:44] <Darkside> yep
[10:44] <Darkside> i'm ready
[10:44] <Dan-K2VOL> Bravo
[10:44] <Darkside> i think
[10:46] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop: you might didnt see it so: https://github.com/nosebleed/JpegTTLCam
[10:47] <number10> *number10 claps
[10:47] <Darkside> clap clpa clpa
[10:47] <daveake> 'kin loud claps!
[10:47] <daveake> Darkside step forward
[10:47] <fsphil-laptop> ooh nice nosebleedKT, will take a look at that when I get home
[10:47] <number10> ed doesnt have shorts on
[10:48] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop: do you need for me to document all the jpeg header with the jpeg markers?
[10:48] <nosebleedKT> i see in ssdv that you make use of jpeg markers of c328
[10:49] <nosebleedKT> so i guess you will need the format of the linksprite jpeg format
[10:50] <costyn> uhoh stream is having some trouble here
[10:50] <Dan-K2VOL> Full screen on the Skype?
[10:50] <number10> me to - had to reload it
[10:50] <costyn> Dan-K2VOL: good idea
[10:51] <costyn> UpuMobile: better thanks
[10:51] <Dan-K2VOL> Yes
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[10:54] <Chesc> enjoying the conference whilst away in germany for the week
[10:54] <Chesc> cheers for the stream UKHAS
[10:54] <daveake> :)
[10:55] <UpuMobile> nps
[10:57] <fsphil-laptop> nosebleedKT, those are jpeg standard headers
[10:57] <Darkside> woot
[10:58] <number10> UpuMobile: schedule seems to have changed, I got to go out, can you email link to youtube recordings - in particular foramlising UKHAS
[10:58] <Darkside> now i can relax
[10:58] <UpuMobile> thanks DS
[10:58] <UpuMobile> went wel
[10:58] <number10> that was OK Darkside
[10:58] <UpuMobile> well
[10:58] <Darkside> now the stream is broken
[10:58] <fsphil-laptop> good job Darkside
[10:58] <Darkside> no wait, there it is
[10:58] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: it was weird having no audience reaction
[10:59] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[10:59] <Darkside> have you guys seen my doodles on spacenear.us/tracker/ ?
[10:59] <Darkside> :P
[10:59] <fsphil-laptop> yea lol
[10:59] <Darkside> :P
[10:59] <Darkside> my code is kind of broken
[11:00] <Darkside> but you can read it
[11:00] <jcoxon> 5 mins break
[11:00] <Darkside> cool
[11:00] <Darkside> hey jcoxon
[11:00] <Darkside> so thats 27 grams including batteries?
[11:00] <Darkside> becuase thats bloody incredible
[11:01] <Darkside> puts my 47 grams to shame
[11:01] <number10> Your Doodle was on the stream prior to conference start Darkside
[11:01] <Darkside> i know
[11:02] <Darkside> oh lol
[11:02] <Darkside> was it
[11:02] <Darkside> nice
[11:02] <Darkside> ok i'd better put some washing on
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[11:08] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop: and where exactly is the difference in the data of c328 and linksprite's?
[11:08] <Dan-K2VOL> Can we run join.me on the presenter pc UpuMobile ?
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[11:09] <fsphil-laptop> nosebleedKT, it's in the way the jpeg is encoded
[11:16] <UpuMobile> ok
[11:17] <UpuMobile> starting again
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[11:19] <Darkside> ahh i love the nametags
[11:19] <Darkside> great idea
[11:19] <number10> sound intermittent again here
[11:20] <fsphil-laptop> epic pink tags
[11:20] <fsphil-laptop> the stuff is everywhere :)
[11:21] <Darkside> i just have pink cord
[11:21] <daveake> I'll have ti buy some pink paint on the way home. Give Buzz a new livery...
[11:22] <daveake> Who do we have on screen? And I don't mean the bear ...
[11:22] <Darkside> DanielRichman:
[11:22] <Darkside> is teh one talking now
[11:22] <Darkside> the other one is Randomskk
[11:22] <daveake> TVM
[11:23] <Darkside> ERLANG?
[11:23] <Darkside> !!
[11:23] <fsphil-laptop> there's two bears
[11:25] <fsphil-laptop> well, not now
[11:25] <daveake> There was one in the audience earlier
[11:25] <daveake> Obviously took my place :[
[11:25] <daveake> :)
[11:27] <fsphil-laptop> hehe, portal
[11:27] <number10> a copy of the slide from this would be gould - can you email them later guys
[11:27] <number10> good
[11:27] <fsphil-laptop> I think it'll be uploaded later
[11:28] <number10> cool
[11:29] <fsphil-laptop> I think these guys are lion
[11:30] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: verry punny
[11:31] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: how was my video earlier
[11:32] <Darkside> my bad
[11:32] <number10> so, for each flight you enter your telemetry format - but how does the system know that that flight is terminated - is it just time?
[11:34] <fsphil-laptop> looked well Darkside - my own video recorder ran out of space near the end
[11:34] <Darkside> ok
[11:34] <fsphil-laptop> I'll stick a copy up somewhere
[11:34] <fsphil-laptop> I also missed the first few minutes of this talk
[11:35] <Darkside> eeyup
[11:35] <Darkside> custom stuff lol
[11:35] <daveake> Ah, the video is just like being there ....
[11:35] <Darkside> one of our trucks has 2 PCs in it
[11:35] <daveake> .... especially the "smell of pee" :D
[11:35] <Darkside> Pentium 4s too >_>
[11:36] <fsphil-laptop> what powers them?
[11:36] <Darkside> they have 12V atx suppluies
[11:36] <Darkside> supplies*
[11:37] <Darkside> automatic altitude records!
[11:37] <fsphil-laptop> :D
[11:37] <Darkside> Acheivement: break my record
[11:38] <fsphil-laptop> working on it
[11:38] <Darkside> lol
[11:39] <daveake> Wait till tomorrow ;)
[11:40] <Darkside> daveake: heh
[11:40] <Darkside> maybe...
[11:40] <fsphil-laptop> oooh
[11:40] <Darkside> i won't be staying up for it though
[11:40] <daveake> Actually that's not my aim .... I just want to get photos from circa 40km
[11:40] <daveake> Anything else would be a bonus
[11:40] <Darkside> i'm gonna be stuffed after the days launch
[11:40] <Darkside> daveake: what balloon are you using?
[11:40] <daveake> Actually, after the last one, landing on land would be a bonus :D
[11:40] <number10> will all this be on www.hubhub.org?
[11:41] <daveake> 1600g Hwwoooyyyeee
[11:41] <Darkside> daveake: be careful
[11:41] <Darkside> you don't want it to float
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[11:41] <jcoxon> UpuMobile,
[11:41] <UpuMobile> hi
[11:41] <jcoxon> have you got those wb8elk emails
[11:41] <daveake> Last one, with 1000g Hwoyee, *just* floated but that was 3.4m/s. This time I'll aim for 4 - 4.5 m/s
[11:41] <UpuMobile> yeah
[11:42] <jcoxon> is the stream working well?
[11:42] <Darkside> daveake: yeah we did 2.5m/s on horus 16
[11:42] <daveake> Plus it has a cutdown
[11:42] <Darkside> which was where we screwed up
[11:42] <jcoxon> Darkside, yeah 27g in total
[11:42] <jcoxon> sorry thats a reply from before
[11:42] <number10> works for a while then goes intermittent
[11:42] <Darkside> jcoxon: thts nute
[11:42] <UpuMobile> yikes
[11:42] <Darkside> nuts*
[11:42] <UpuMobile> he's busy
[11:42] <WB8ELK> James....email me the Skype contact info for the conference
[11:43] <UpuMobile> 1 sec WB8ELK
[11:43] <daveake> I gave Buzz a test last night in my chase car. I hope no police officers were watching the map :p
[11:43] <jcoxon> hi WB8ELK
[11:43] <WB8ELK> audio is choppy....you might want to reduce the video stream rate or go to VP6 video encoding
[11:43] <WB8ELK> although it's not too bad right now
[11:43] <jcoxon> is it loud enough?
[11:44] <number10> yes
[11:44] <jcoxon> we are also recording it seperately
[11:44] <WB8ELK> yes...sounds good level
[11:44] <UpuMobile> request sent from ROb Harrison
[11:44] <WB8ELK> it was choppy earlier but now sounds good
[11:45] <WB8ELK> I didn't get a request from Rob....there are a number of Rob Harrison's on Skype in the UK
[11:45] <Darkside> someone ask if they will be supporting IE6
[11:45] <Darkside> :D
[11:45] <UpuMobile> Hi all...video quality is great...but the audio is choppy.....suggest lowering the video rate speed or change it to VP6....also can drop the audio rate a bit as well and that should fix it.
[11:45] <UpuMobile> will sort after this presentation
[11:46] <WB8ELK> what city is Rob in so I ccan narrow down the search for him on Skype?
[11:46] <SpeedEvil> Isn't he in cambridge?
[11:46] <jcoxon> leeds
[11:47] <jcoxon> rharrison1971
[11:47] <jcoxon> thats his skype name
[11:47] <SpeedEvil> ah
[11:47] <WB8ELK> thanks...just sent him a request on Skype
[11:48] <UpuMobile> got it
[11:48] <WB8ELK> James...I emailed you and others my power point presentation and a link to a webpage
[11:48] <jcoxon> yeah thanls
[11:48] <jcoxon> thanks*
[11:48] <UpuMobile> will download in a sec
[11:48] <jcoxon> got that
[11:49] <UpuMobile> any questions from chanel ?
[11:49] <Dan-K2VOL> Thank u UpuMobile
[11:50] <Darkside> UpuMobile: will it support IE6 :P
[11:50] <Darkside> (joke)
[11:50] <fsphil-laptop> I can answer that :p
[11:50] <Darkside> actually, i have a reali question
[11:50] <Darkside> what is the cause of the slowdowns in spacenearus when we have heaps of data points
[11:50] <Darkside> is that just spacenearus, or the entire processing chain
[11:50] <WB8ELK> James...what time do you want me to talk?
[11:51] <Dan-K2VOL> Will it support grAphs of other telemetry values (sorry if already addressed, sometimes audio not easy on freeing ears)
[11:51] <Darkside> Dan-K2VOL: i think it will
[11:51] <Darkside> they were working ont hat
[11:51] <Dan-K2VOL> Cool
[11:51] <WB8ELK> The audio of the fellow talking right now in the audience is great
[11:51] <Dan-K2VOL> Thx dark
[11:51] <Dan-K2VOL> Yes
[11:51] <WB8ELK> think it's difficult to hear the audio of the presenters since they are too far from the microphone
[11:52] <UpuMobile> yeah next year we will get a better mike
[11:52] <WB8ELK> so ignore my email about the video and audio settings I sent earlier
[11:52] <Dan-K2VOL> Fixes for next yeAr, WB8ELK we cn donate for better equipment
[11:53] <number10> *number10 claps
[11:53] <Dan-K2VOL> Thanks guys
[11:53] <Dan-K2VOL> Clap
[11:53] <Darkside> UpuMobile: i had one earlier
[11:53] <Darkside> about the slowdowns when theres lots of points
[11:54] <Dan-K2VOL> iOS app?
[11:54] <Dan-K2VOL> XD
[11:54] <Darkside> they built it so we can sit in a pub and watch the flight
[11:55] <WB8ELK> Dan...we'll have to make a trip across the pond to attend the next UKHAS conference
[11:55] <number10> I was about to say that Darkeside
[11:55] <fsphil-laptop> that'd be cool
[11:55] <daveake> The famous pink payload!
[11:56] <number10> does it still smell I wonder
[11:56] <WB8ELK> When do you want me to give my talk by the way?
[11:58] <UpuMobile> just checking Bill
[11:58] <UpuMobile> getting to James isn't easy :)
[11:58] <WB8ELK> I understand :-)
[11:59] <WB8ELK> Trevor at the BATC mentioned that this room would make a great location for a horror movie set
[11:59] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[11:59] <daveake> Looks like one now lol
[11:59] <WB8ELK> the conference room...not the chatroom lol
[11:59] <number10> looks pretty rough
[11:59] <fsphil-laptop> it's a bit like the dragons den room
[11:59] <daveake> I'm ooot
[11:59] <UpuMobile> ok reduced the frame rate
[11:59] <Darkside> hmm i should get to bed
[12:00] <Darkside> HEY NIGEL
[12:00] <Darkside> I SEE TYOUUU
[12:00] <Darkside> wave at the camera nigel
[12:00] <Darkside> hmm whats the lag
[12:00] <fsphil-laptop> waving now
[12:00] <Darkside> i need someone to make a sound at the same time as they type it in IRC
[12:00] <DanielRichman> hmmm
[12:00] <Darkside> ok not that much lag
[12:00] <Dan-K2VOL> Hi nigeys I see u too
[12:01] <Darkside> hey Dan-K2VOL
[12:01] <Darkside> DanielRichman:
[12:01] <DanielRichman> hi
[12:01] <Darkside> DanielRichman: why the lag on spacenearus when lots of points
[12:01] <UpuMobile> about 11:30 your time Bill ?
[12:01] <UpuMobile> that ok ?
[12:01] <DanielRichman> Darkside: mostly slow javascript
[12:01] <Darkside> ahh ok
[12:01] <Dan-K2VOL> Hi darkside saw you through three times restreamed!
[12:01] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: tell nigel i forgot to ask about meganut
[12:02] <Darkside> sorry
[12:02] <Darkside> is that what he has in his hand?
[12:02] <WB8ELK> what time in BST or UTC?
[12:02] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, yea
[12:02] <Dan-K2VOL> Darkside it always happens with gmaps with lots of points
[12:02] <Darkside> aww they moved the camera
[12:02] <Darkside> i wanna see a closeup of meganut!
[12:02] <fsphil-laptop> it is 13:02 BST right now
[12:02] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, upu's stole it
[12:02] <WB8ELK> so 11:30 my time would equate to what time in BST?
[12:02] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: tell upu that its a dogy dodgy hack
[12:03] <Darkside> and it was the result of 20 min of altium designer work
[12:03] <WB8ELK> I'm in CDT
[12:03] <WB8ELK> GMT-5
[12:03] <Dan-K2VOL> WB8ELK: Check UKHAS page for good time listings
[12:03] <Dan-K2VOL> UKHAS.org.uk then conference
[12:04] <Dan-K2VOL> WB8ELK: I'm in for a trip over in person, need to find the angel investor for that!
[12:04] <WB8ELK> Hi Dan...looking at that
[12:04] <fsphil-laptop> WB8ELK, 4:30 BST
[12:04] <Dan-K2VOL> Cool
[12:04] <fsphil-laptop> er
[12:05] <fsphil-laptop> 16:30 BST :)
[12:05] <WB8ELK> Make the WhiteStar balloon big enough and we can hitch a ride
[12:05] <WB8ELK> thanks....that'll work just fine
[12:05] <Dan-K2VOL> Hehe, I've got 5 envelopes, that should do it
[12:05] <fsphil-laptop> armchair strapped to the balloon
[12:05] <WB8ELK> so that would actually be 10:30 am my time
[12:05] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: whhats upu think of the meganut pcb
[12:05] <WB8ELK> I'll be there as long as Robert accepts my request on Skype :-)
[12:06] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, thought it was very nice
[12:06] <Dan-K2VOL> Hmm wait I thought it was upu doing Skype
[12:06] <Darkside> blerh
[12:06] <Darkside> at least it works
[12:06] <fsphil-laptop> it does indeed
[12:06] <Darkside> i was afraid i'd made some mistake and it'd fail
[12:06] <fsphil-laptop> thought it unusual you didn't have any vias :)
[12:06] <Darkside> well
[12:07] <Darkside> i have through-hole plating
[12:07] <WB8ELK> Dan...email me the Skype contact if it's different than Rob's
[12:07] <Darkside> and i make use of it
[12:07] <Dan-K2VOL> Working wonderfully
[12:07] <UpuMobile> I accepted it WB8ELK
[12:07] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: this might be the kin of board that first-time habbers could use
[12:07] <number10> fsphil-laptop - get me a NTX2 rafle ticket ;-)
[12:07] <fsphil-laptop> haha
[12:07] <Dan-K2VOL> UpuMobile: same Skype as before when we tested?
[12:07] <daveake> :D
[12:07] <fsphil-laptop> I might get told off
[12:07] <WB8ELK> ok....great so we are all set then
[12:07] <Darkside> well can you get me one?
[12:08] <Darkside> >_>
[12:08] <number10> they are only 10ms Darkside
[12:08] <number10> 0mw
[12:08] <Darkside> bah :P
[12:08] <number10> 10
[12:08] <Darkside> weeeeeeak
[12:08] <UpuMobile> hey Dan-K2VOL
[12:08] <Darkside> did you know the 25mw versions have a special switch on them?
[12:08] <fsphil-laptop> it's not the power, it's how you use it :p
[12:08] <UpuMobile> might be different
[12:09] <Darkside> when you take them into the UK, you can flick the switch and they transmit at 10mW!
[12:09] <Darkside> its amazing!
[12:09] <number10> mmm
[12:09] <Darkside> how do you think i did 10mW from Horus 15.5? :P
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[12:09] <fsphil-laptop> aah. I thought it had a built in gps, knows where it is and reduces power automatically
[12:09] <number10> sound is working fine now
[12:10] <WB8ELK> I've been using the 434 MHz modules from SparkFun for $4....they can go down to 10 mW
[12:10] <Darkside> WB8ELK: the little SAW resonator ones?
[12:10] <WB8ELK> I AM modulate them with DominoEX and 300 baud RTTY
[12:10] <number10> what ones are those WB8ELK?
[12:10] <WB8ELK> yes....solves the drift problem with them by going with AM modulation
[12:10] <Darkside> ahh ok
[12:10] <Darkside> yeah i was wondering about that
[12:10] <Darkside> i thought they would drift heaps
[12:10] <WB8ELK> but requires more gain on the ground
[12:11] <Darkside> ahh
[12:11] <WB8ELK> they do drift but hardly noticable when AM modulated
[12:11] <fsphil-laptop> how is AM at rejecting noise, compared to FM?
[12:11] <fsphil-laptop> FM is pretty poor
[12:11] <WB8ELK> I received a flight from 200 km away with a decent signal
[12:11] <fsphil-laptop> when the signal is weak
[12:11] <Darkside> oh i can see nigel again
[12:11] <Darkside> just
[12:11] <WB8ELK> I use a Kenwood TH-F6A to receive and a 5 element antenna
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[12:13] <WB8ELK> love the fellow wearing the T-shirt "It's all about Altitude"
[12:13] <number10> i thing the nametag covers "IGH"
[12:13] <daveake> :)
[12:13] <fsphil-laptop> WB8ELK, that's willduckworth :)
[12:13] <number10> HIGH
[12:14] <Darkside> someone yelled my name
[12:14] <WB8ELK> Tell Will I love his shirt
[12:14] <Darkside> oh wait it was nigel
[12:15] <Darkside> in can hear nigel talking...
[12:15] <Darkside> almost
[12:15] <Darkside> his accent stands out from the rest :P
[12:15] <daveake> :)
[12:15] <fsphil-laptop> that could be my accent too :p
[12:15] <Darkside> heh
[12:15] <WB8ELK> They are SAW resonator transmitters on 434 MHz....I get them from SparkFun
[12:15] <fsphil-laptop> though nigey is louder than me :)
[12:15] <Darkside> fsphil-laptop: haha
[12:16] <Darkside> so whats going on atm?
[12:16] <fsphil-laptop> lots of chatter
[12:16] <Darkside> nigel has run off
[12:16] <fsphil-laptop> and general mingling
[12:16] <daveake> Is that a light cord dangling, or a very very small payload? ;)
[12:16] <Darkside> light cord :P
[12:16] <fsphil-laptop> lol, cord
[12:16] <daveake> There's a target for you though :)
[12:17] <Darkside> oh bugger off :P
[12:17] <fsphil-laptop> needs more pink tape
[12:17] <daveake> lol
[12:17] <WB8ELK> well...going back to bed for a bit...had 2 hours of sleep....this is too early for me as you well know Dan
[12:17] <Darkside> m i' mgonna have to get to sleep soon
[12:17] <Darkside> gotta be up early for the launch tomorrow
[12:18] <WB8ELK> I set my alarm for after their lunch hour
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[12:18] <WB8ELK> Darkside...did your last flight wash up on shore yet?
[12:18] <Darkside> dunno
[12:18] <Darkside> haven't heard from anyone baout it
[12:18] <WB8ELK> it was sooooo close to hitting land
[12:19] <WB8ELK> my farthest latex flight was 1400 miles and 22 hours
[12:19] <WB8ELK> with a 2000 gram
[12:19] <Darkside> this was 1400km ground path
[12:19] <Darkside> great circle was 1200 though
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[12:20] <Darkside> 1400 miles is ridiculous
[12:20] <Darkside> still, i was pretty happy with the 24 hour flight time :P
[12:20] <WB8ELK> launched from Alabama and splashed down 350 miles SE of Halifax Nova Scotia
[12:20] <WB8ELK> yes....that's a good long time
[12:20] <Darkside> has there been a longer latex balloon flight?
[12:20] <WB8ELK> I have some Hwoyee's...going to try a series of floater flights with them soion
[12:21] <WB8ELK> I think you beat my flight time by 2 hours
[12:21] <Darkside> still need to get that put on the record list
[12:21] <Darkside> 24 hours 17 minutes
[12:21] <WB8ELK> that's great for a latex
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[12:21] <WB8ELK> those Hwoyee balloons are tough
[12:21] <Darkside> UpuMobile: what would you like to know
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[12:21] <Darkside> :P
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[12:22] <WB8ELK> I haven't been able to float anything less than a 1200 gram balloon...but haven't tried the Hwoyee's yet
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[12:22] <WB8ELK> I've tried to float several 600 gram ones and just won't float
[12:22] <Darkside> heh
[12:22] <Darkside> we're hoping that our launch tomorrow doesn't float
[12:22] <Darkside> we don't want to go through all that crap again
[12:23] <WB8ELK> what was your ascent speed on your 24 hour floater?
[12:23] <Darkside> 2.5m/s
[12:23] <Darkside> 150g payload
[12:23] <WB8ELK> Bet you went through several tanks of gasoline on that chase
[12:23] <Darkside> diesel
[12:23] <Darkside> but yes
[12:23] <Darkside> was an expensive excersize
[12:24] <WB8ELK> ah....2.5 m/s or less is a good chance for a float...what size balloon?
[12:24] <Darkside> 2000g
[12:24] <WB8ELK> 2.5 m/s is almost a guaranteed float for a 2000 g
[12:24] <WB8ELK> particularly if launched 2 hours prior to sunset
[12:24] <Darkside> heh
[12:24] <Darkside> well we launched at 9am
[12:25] <Darkside> floated after about 5 hours
[12:25] <Darkside> and kept on going...
[12:25] <WB8ELK> that means that the Hwoyee is a tough balloon
[12:25] <WB8ELK> we had one tethered for a TV show here a 2000 gram Hwoyee with 26 pounds of lift
[12:26] <WB8ELK> a 35 knot wind came up from a storm and it survived
[12:26] <SpeedEvil> Neat!
[12:26] <WB8ELK> well until it hit the barbed wire fence...it did NOT like that
[12:26] <Darkside> heh
[12:27] <WB8ELK> they shot one on the show with a paintball gun....it didn't burst the balloon just made a hole in it
[12:27] <Darkside> hehe nigel playin with the dangly thing
[12:27] <WB8ELK> it's on NatGeoTV...called Rocket City Rednecks....I appear on the show when they do weather balloons
[12:29] <Darkside> ok i had better finish getting ready for tomorrow
[12:29] <WB8ELK> I'm going to fly a 10 meter payload soon...28 MHz....it can be heard in Australia
[12:30] <Darkside> what power?
[12:30] <WB8ELK> 1 watt
[12:30] <Darkside> morse?
[12:30] <WB8ELK> The 10 meter band has been wild lately.....DominoEX
[12:30] <Darkside> hmm ok
[12:30] <Darkside> will have to have a listen out
[12:30] <WB8ELK> My transmitter is similar to yours .... I use the Sarantel as well....
[12:30] <Darkside> i still want to do a decent HF payload from here
[12:31] <WB8ELK> mine does DominoEX, RTTY, Hellscreiber and CW
[12:31] <WB8ELK> Morse
[12:31] <Darkside> in my case the problem will be the Class E amp
[12:31] <WB8ELK> I use class E below 18 MHz....but class C on 10 m
[12:31] <Darkside> since it needs to be carefully tuned, and many of the components you tune it with are very temperature dependent
[12:31] <WB8ELK> Class E is tricky to tune above 14 MHz
[12:32] <WB8ELK> works great on 7 MHz and 10 MHz
[12:32] <Darkside> yeah i've been planning on doing a 30m payload for a while
[12:32] <Darkside> just havent gotten around to it yet, been too busy with the MicroNut design
[12:32] <WB8ELK> 30 meters is a great band...I've had great success with flights using 30m and 40m
[12:32] <Darkside> mmm, the next thing i want to get going is a dual RTTY + APRS payload
[12:33] <Darkside> APRS on 2m, RTTY on 70cm, and have a small diplexer
[12:33] <Darkside> already got the diplexer done, just need to make sure it works fine at -30 deg C
[12:33] <WB8ELK> send me your email and I'll email you my PPT on my transmitter and GPS design
[12:33] <Darkside> mjessop@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au
[12:33] <WB8ELK> great...will email you
[12:33] <Darkside> cool
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[12:37] <WB8ELK> email on its way
[12:46] <fsphil-laptop> ONIONS! ON PIZZAS!
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[12:54] <griffonbot> @LVL1WhiteStar: UKHAS conf resumes on stream, and there's donuts at LVL1Hackerspace! Dan's talk coming up at 10am edt. http://t.co/tgf1NoMT #ukhas #Arhab [http://twitter.com/LVL1WhiteStar/status/125192726084993024]
[13:02] <W0OTM> Howdy
[13:02] <fsphil-laptop> next talk starting shortly
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[13:03] <UpuMobile> ed moore
[13:04] <UpuMobile> ExoMars Parachute Testing in the Stratosphere
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[13:16] <jcoxon> can we increase the volume at all?
[13:18] <jcoxon> apparently quite quiet
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[13:25] <UpuMobile> any better ?
[13:26] <bfirsh> zzz. slept in and had a long bath. on my way now!
[13:26] <bfirsh> (I blame a long week ;)
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[13:39] <gbulmer> when he asks for questions, would someone please ask Ed for more details of the 'consumer high speed camera'? (Make, model etc.)
[13:40] <UpuMobile> get that ?
[13:40] <gbulmer> casio ex01?
[13:40] <UpuMobile> yup
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[13:45] <gbulmer> Probably a Casio EXILIM Pro EX-F1
[13:45] <UpuMobile> Oliver de Payer HAB for Bioprospecting
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[13:45] <jcoxon> afternoon Dan-K2VOL
[13:46] <gbulmer> seems very impressive http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08010601casiof1.asp
[13:46] <Dan-K2VOL> hi James, been watching since the start, very nice
[13:46] <jcoxon> excellent
[13:46] <UpuMobile> Dans up next
[13:46] <UpuMobile> after Oliver
[13:50] <jcoxon> some links to ed's videos
[13:50] <jcoxon> http://vimeo.com/cuspaceflight
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[13:58] <griffonbot> @jamescoxon: Excellent bio-prospecting at high altitude currently going on #ukhas http://t.co/v9BKB0gd [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/125209012307365888]
[14:01] <Dan-K2VOL> definitely excellent
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[14:01] <fsphil-laptop> tis
[14:02] <jcoxon> Dan-K2VOL, stream working?
[14:04] <Dan-K2VOL> yes very well, we've been rebroadcasting on ustream as well, working nicely.
[14:06] <jcoxon> excellent
[14:06] <jcoxon> fallen a bit behind schedule
[14:07] <Dan-K2VOL> upuMobile
[14:07] <UpuMobile> yeah
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[14:08] <Dan-K2VOL> just checking, I don't see anthonystirk online skype for after my talk, is that the correct account?
[14:08] <UpuMobile> robertharrison1972 1 sec
[14:08] <jcoxon> 1971
[14:09] <UpuMobile> rharrison1971
[14:09] <UpuMobile> can you request that ?
[14:09] <Dan-K2VOL> requested
[14:09] <UpuMobile> got you
[14:10] <UpuMobile> Will call you before we show it so you can introduce it
[14:10] <UpuMobile> if thats ok
[14:12] <Dan-K2VOL> sounds great
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[14:17] <Dan-K2VOL> can you play the video full screen with quicktime player?
[14:17] <UpuMobile> yes
[14:17] <Dan-K2VOL> great
[14:17] <UpuMobile> Ihope
[14:17] <UpuMobile> :)
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[14:20] <Dan-K2VOL> it should want to auto-play full screen
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[14:20] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[14:21] <nosebleedKT> hi Lunar_Lander
[14:21] <Dan-K2VOL> hello Lunar_Lander
[14:21] <Lunar_Lander> how are you?
[14:21] <nosebleedKT> first time Lunar_Lander didn't say hello to specific people
[14:21] <nosebleedKT> :P
[14:21] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[14:21] Action: nosebleedKT thinks Lunar_Lander get more social :p
[14:22] <Lunar_Lander> xD thanks
[14:26] <Lunar_Lander> and how is the conference?
[14:26] <fsphil-laptop> all good
[14:26] <fsphil-laptop> nice talk on high altitude bio-prospecting
[14:27] <UpuMobile> stream it Lunar_Lander
[14:27] <Dan-K2VOL> you can leave the video off from skype
[14:27] <Dan-K2VOL> to me
[14:27] <UpuMobile> yep
[14:27] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[14:28] <Dan-K2VOL> how much delay is on the main stream?
[14:28] <fsphil-laptop> seems pretty good, few seconds
[14:28] <Lunar_Lander> only that I am currently on ubuntu and even with flash it won't work
[14:28] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[14:28] <Dan-K2VOL> cool
[14:28] <Dan-K2VOL> lunar_lander try http://ustre.am/oIad
[14:28] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[14:29] <Lunar_Lander> one sec
[14:31] <Dan-K2VOL> lol I thought he had a half hour slot :-)
[14:31] <jcoxon> hehe
[14:31] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[14:31] <Lunar_Lander> damn doesn't work either :(
[14:31] <jcoxon> UpuMobile, shall we move it on...
[14:31] <Dan-K2VOL> great talk though, good to see the things we've all been talking about
[14:32] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[14:32] <Lunar_Lander> Dan-K2VOL: but I should be able to see it on ustream later, right?
[14:32] <Lunar_Lander> in the recorded videos section
[14:32] <Dan-K2VOL> will try, it's very long for USTREAM to retain
[14:32] <Lunar_Lander> yes
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[14:32] <Lunar_Lander> can you as the owner of the channel actually download it?
[14:33] <Dan-K2VOL> we're recording it to disk and will put it up in the event that UKHAS guys are not able to
[14:33] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[14:33] <Dan-K2VOL> they will have a better copy presumably
[14:33] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[14:34] <Lunar_Lander> and could it be put on DVD maybe?
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[14:34] <fsphil-laptop> more likely downloadable files or youtube
[14:34] <Dan-K2VOL> oh sure, actually a laserdisc will be mailed to all IRC participants
[14:34] <fsphil-laptop> you could make a dvd from that if you wanted to
[14:34] <Lunar_Lander> youtube would be cool
[14:34] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[14:34] <UpuMobile> offline recording
[14:34] <Dan-K2VOL> (kidding)
[14:34] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[14:35] <Dan-K2VOL> brb
[14:35] <fsphil-laptop> yea laserdisc
[14:35] <Lunar_Lander> yeah but I think YT would be a great option
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[14:35] <Lunar_Lander> I'll brb also
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[14:36] <Dan-K2VOL> Question: could you use alcohol or other volatile solvent?
[14:37] <Dan-K2VOL> upumobile I don't see the rharrison1971 account in skype yet
[14:37] <UpuMobile> powering on
[14:37] <Dan-K2VOL> roger that
[14:37] <UpuMobile> I'll ask Oliver
[14:38] <Dan-K2VOL> oh I"ll ask on email, no worries
[14:39] <nosebleedKT> well i just figure out that baudrate is not same as bitrate
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[14:39] <nosebleedKT> avr serial hardware supports 115200 baudrate
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[14:40] <nosebleedKT> how many bits per seconds can be tranferred?
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[14:43] <SpeedEvil> out of every 10 bits (with one parity and stop bit), 8 are data.
[14:43] <UpuMobile> is there sound on this first bit Dan ?
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[14:44] <UpuMobile> is there sound on this first bit Dan ?
[14:44] <Dan-K2VOL> USE QUICKTIME PLAYER
[14:44] <Dan-K2VOL> yes sound starts with pictures
[14:45] <Dan-K2VOL> :-)
[14:45] <UpuMobile> got it thx
[14:45] <Dan-K2VOL> good work
[14:46] <Dan-K2VOL> can you aim cam up and zoom to screen?
[14:46] <UpuMobile> done
[14:47] <Dan-K2VOL> thanks, it's still only showing about the lower 2/3 of the scree though :-/
[14:47] <UpuMobile> no its all there
[14:47] <nosebleedKT> SpeedEvil: 1 baud rate = 10 bits ?
[14:47] <Dan-K2VOL> oh I'm very sotrry
[14:47] <Dan-K2VOL> my window is zoomed!!!!
[14:47] <UpuMobile> lol
[14:47] <Dan-K2VOL> sorry
[14:47] <fsphil-laptop> :p
[14:47] <jcoxon> it might work!
[14:47] <jcoxon> haha
[14:47] <Dan-K2VOL> :->
[14:48] <SpeedEvil> nosebleedKT: no
[14:48] <SpeedEvil> nosebleedKT: baud rate is 'changes per second'
[14:48] <SpeedEvil> So 115200 is 115200 changes/second.
[14:49] <nosebleedKT> yes, so here 1 baud = 1 bit
[14:49] <nosebleedKT> yes, so here 1 'change' = 1 bit
[14:49] <fsphil-laptop> not all bits are data
[14:49] <SpeedEvil> Effectively, it's 115200 bits - at the wire leavel - but with 23000 or so bits being wasted
[14:49] <SpeedEvil> as overhead
[14:52] <nosebleedKT> at 57.600 how much is the overhead?
[14:53] <Dan-K2VOL> for Q&A I may need a text relay of the question if the echo is bad, I had to turn my speakers off for the intro to stop echoing
[14:53] <UpuMobile> of course
[14:53] <W0OTM> Howdy
[14:54] <UpuMobile> hi Bill
[14:54] <fsphil-laptop> nosebleedKT, it's always 20% if you have one start bit and one stop bit
[14:54] <UpuMobile> just got Dan on
[14:54] <Dan-K2VOL> hi bill
[14:54] <UpuMobile> won't be long
[14:54] <Dan-K2VOL> hi marshall
[14:54] <W0OTM> Hi Dan-K2VOL
[14:54] <Dan-K2VOL> watching in?
[14:54] <W0OTM> yes
[14:54] <UpuMobile> wrong person sorry ignore me
[14:54] <Dan-K2VOL> cool
[14:54] <Dan-K2VOL> lol upumobile I was blindly following u
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[14:55] <Lunar_Lander> back
[14:56] <W0OTM> Hi Lunar_Lander
[14:56] <Lunar_Lander> hi W0OTM
[14:56] <Lunar_Lander> how are you?
[14:57] <W0OTM> Im good
[14:57] <W0OTM> u?
[14:57] <Lunar_Lander> me too, thanks
[14:58] <Lunar_Lander> hope you have been doing well in the last time?
[14:58] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[14:58] <jcoxon> excellent talk Dan-K2VOL
[14:58] <Dan-K2VOL> thanks jcoxon! :-)
[14:58] <W0OTM> I missed your talk Dan :(
[14:58] <Dan-K2VOL> it's on now marshall
[14:58] <W0OTM> you presented?
[14:59] <Dan-K2VOL> only halfway through!
[14:59] <W0OTM> oh this isn't live?
[14:59] <UpuMobile> yes its live
[14:59] <W0OTM> im confused
[14:59] <Dan-K2VOL> http://stream.ukhas.org.uk
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[14:59] <Dan-K2VOL> I sent a recorded presentation in
[14:59] <Dan-K2VOL> and I"ll be live for Q&A
[14:59] <W0OTM> OH!
[14:59] <W0OTM> ok
[15:05] <jcoxon> thanks Dan-K2VOL
[15:05] <Dan-K2VOL> you're welcome!
[15:05] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[15:05] <Lunar_Lander> Dan-K2VOL: I am just glad that there is youtube
[15:05] <Lunar_Lander> because that way I will be able to see your and all the other talk
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[15:06] <fsphil-laptop> lol Lunar_Lander, you where on the stage here for a moment
[15:06] <Lunar_Lander> xD how comes?
[15:06] <fsphil-laptop> dan had IRC going through a speech program
[15:07] <W0OTM> dangit! I wanted to put a plug in
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[15:07] <Lunar_Lander> xD cool
[15:07] <fsphil-laptop> when we skyped into him we could hear it reading your text
[15:07] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[15:07] <Lunar_Lander> yeah, hello from Germany!
[15:07] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[15:07] <fsphil-laptop> haha
[15:07] <fsphil-laptop> it's off now
[15:07] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[15:10] <WB8ELK> I have a GHOST balloon given to me by Vin Lally
[15:10] <Lunar_Lander> hi WB8ELK
[15:10] <Lunar_Lander> that is awesome! I found his reports on that program on the NCAR website
[15:10] <WB8ELK> Vin Lally was a big advocate of the Tetroon
[15:10] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[15:11] <Lunar_Lander> and the performance of such balloons is awesome
[15:11] <WB8ELK> Winzen...now Aerostar tried using Nylon 6 for a superpressure
[15:11] <Lunar_Lander> IIRC, the first two balloons which were launched at australia had the goal of a circumnavigation, balloon 1 did it in 30 days; balloon 2 was caught in a pacific weather system
[15:12] <Lunar_Lander> it only came down after 117 days or so
[15:12] <WB8ELK> if anyone is reading this....mention that the successful superpressure flights use a mass flowmeter to precisely measure the helium
[15:12] <WB8ELK> the margin is small
[15:12] <UpuMobile> ok WB8ELK
[15:13] <WB8ELK> at least they use that for the larger ones
[15:13] <Lunar_Lander> during inflation?
[15:13] <UpuMobile> be with your shortly Bill
[15:14] <jcoxon> WB8ELK, how long is your talk?
[15:16] <WB8ELK> about 30 mins
[15:16] <WB8ELK> maybe 25 if I talk fast
[15:16] <WB8ELK> well...I once did it in 20 for the Dayton show
[15:17] <WB8ELK> so figure on 20 for the talk and then some for questions
[15:17] <jcoxon> okay
[15:17] <jcoxon> rob harrison is doing a talk on outreach
[15:17] <jcoxon> then its your turn
[15:17] <jcoxon> if thats okay
[15:18] <Lunar_Lander> and what about Formalising UKHAS?
[15:19] <Lunar_Lander> I thought that is next
[15:20] <WB8ELK> yes that will be fine
[15:20] <WB8ELK> should I do a Skype test call now
[15:20] <WB8ELK> to make sure it works
[15:20] <number10> having problems getting wiki.whitestarballoon.org
[15:21] <WB8ELK> James...can we do a test call now to check it out?
[15:21] <WB8ELK> It currently shows Robert as offline on Skype
[15:21] <x-f> number10, it's .com
[15:22] <number10> ta
[15:22] <russss> gah, when is Formalising UKHAS? That is my area of expertise, I'd like to listen in
[15:22] <russss> but I have no headphones either
[15:23] <number10> but the link to the tech details link to .org
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[15:23] <edmoore> Hello
[15:23] <russss> I demand a live transcript
[15:23] <number10> hello ed
[15:23] <edmoore> Hi
[15:24] <number10> missed your bit ed - but hope to see the recording
[15:24] <edmoore> What's the feed quality like?
[15:24] <number10> not bad at moment
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[15:26] <WB8ELK> Hi Ed....the stream is great...audio is good when presenter is near the microphone...a bit hard to hear when giving the talks however
[15:26] <WB8ELK> due to the distance to the microphone
[15:27] <WB8ELK> Ed...can you ask Robert if he wants to do a brief Skype test call with me
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[15:28] <edmoore> WB8ELK: Incoming
[15:28] <UpuMobile> calling you now
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[15:30] <WB8ELK> Skype worked great
[15:31] <Lunar_Lander> WB8ELK: I'll write you the email about earthwinds later
[15:31] <UpuMobile> yup
[15:31] <UpuMobile> ok Rob Harrison
[15:31] <UpuMobile> then Bill
[15:31] <fsphil-laptop> the skype call with dan was great quality
[15:33] <UpuMobile> anyone a woman ?
[15:33] Action: fsphil-laptop checks
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[15:35] <Lunar_Lander> hi Paradoxial
[15:35] <number10> I thought your pink payload was an attempt to attract women Upu
[15:36] <Paradoxial> Hi Lunar
[15:36] <Paradoxial> I am sooo tired :S
[15:36] <Lunar_Lander> how comes?
[15:36] <Paradoxial> I just spent the entire first half of my day taking pictures at a robotics thing
[15:36] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[15:36] <Paradoxial> Then I had to ride my bike 15 miles back home
[15:36] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[15:37] <Paradoxial> So I might fall asleep on my laptop
[15:37] <Paradoxial> Don't think I'm being rude if I stop responding
[15:37] <Paradoxial> Or if I randomly type a bunch of letters with my head
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> no problem
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[15:37] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[15:38] <Paradoxial> I'll be sorting out and editting 400 pictures for the next few hours
[15:38] <griffonbot> Received email: Priyesh Patel "[UKHAS] [Launch Notification] Apex Alpha Launch 1"
[15:38] <priyesh> :)
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:38] <Paradoxial> Do you guys have an email list?
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> cool priyesh
[15:38] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[15:38] <Paradoxial> Slash group
[15:38] <gbulmer> Insurance: STEMnet.org.uk runs a system to do CRB checks for people getting involved in schools, who become STEMnet ambassadors. They say their insurance covers people who are STMnet ambassadors who declare ahead of time that they will be doing an even for children
[15:39] <Lunar_Lander> Paradoxial: http://groups.google.com/group/ukhas
[15:41] <Paradoxial> Joined for reference. I'll set it up with my email system sometime later
[15:41] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[15:43] <fsphil-laptop> oooh launch
[15:43] <fsphil-laptop> darkside is launching tonight I think
[15:43] <gbulmer> CRB check: STEMnet.org.uk pay - every local education authority has a 'contract holder' (company) who organises this for you, and pays
[15:44] <russss> note that you only need a CRB check if you're *regularly* working with children
[15:44] <SpeedEvil> Insane chilling effect that you can't interact with children without being expected to want to knob them.
[15:44] <russss> where "regularly" means more than once per month
[15:44] <russss> and it's likely that will be liberalised further quite soon
[15:45] <gbulmer> I have found schools ask for CRB check even for a one day event
[15:45] <russss> well they are wrong
[15:46] <gbulmer> I use the STEMnet.org.uk CRB for this. Costs less than an hour, no money, and the STEMnet folks help with the process
[15:46] <gbulmer> russss - I have refered the school to the STEMnet folks, and issues seemed to dissolve
[15:46] <number10> not accurate when I talk nonsense
[15:47] <russss> as someone who irregularly works with children I am actually required by the charity commission to vouch that I am not legally entitled to be CRB checked :P
[15:47] <gbulmer> russss - eh?
[15:48] <SpeedEvil> Some of the reasons for CRB fails can be depressingly irrelevant.
[15:48] <fsphil-laptop> we are totally 100% accurate
[15:48] <russss> anyhow. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2010-2012/0099/lbill_2010-20120099_en_6.htm#pt5-ch1-pb1-l1g64
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[15:48] <gbulmer> russss - thank you
[15:48] <russss> as I understand it, the Protection of Freedoms Bill greatly restricts the scope of the CRB system
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[15:48] <russss> which is what I just linked
[15:49] <russss> that is expected to become law within 6 months
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[15:50] <russss> I think.
[15:50] <number10> that would be nice in the UK to tx at that power
[15:50] Action: fsphil-laptop has watt envy
[15:51] <number10> nice to see resistors as zigzag lines
[15:51] <daveake> That's old school :)
[15:51] <number10> im old
[15:51] <daveake> So am I :)
[15:52] <G0MJW> Not quite enough resolution to differentiate inductors and resistors
[15:52] <daveake> And I agree - I automatically draw the zigzags
[15:53] <priyesh> is anyone here who could repost the latest alpha packet to spacenearus?
[15:53] <russss> I wish they'd present amendments to law as diffs.
[15:53] <number10> is the sound breaking occasionally on the feed where you are daveake?
[15:53] <gbulmer> breaking here
[15:54] <G0MJW> Here too. Sounds like problems with vox
[15:54] <number10> shame
[15:54] <daveake> yes
[15:54] <number10> but still nice to have the feed
[15:54] <daveake> yes
[15:54] <fsphil-laptop> is it too loud?
[15:54] <daveake> No, fine
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[15:55] <fsphil-laptop> just glitches?
[15:55] <daveake> yep
[15:55] <G0MJW> Possible bandwidth - got much worse when slide changed.
[15:55] <number10> psphil its just intermittent - must be feed between conference and service provider
[15:55] <daveake> I've only just now reconnected ... was off for a while (had to move my laptop to somewhere without a connection)
[15:56] <SpeedEvil> russss: As I see it, that takes feeding ill children, and toileting out of scope, but nothing else - is that what you meant?
[15:57] <Graham_G3VZV> its a bit late now but try reducing the audio to mono and 22khz in the flash encoder...if not already set to something like that
[15:57] <number10> james is getting interested I bet
[15:58] <UpuMobile> he's nodding :)
[15:58] <Graham_G3VZV> you ahve to stop the stream to make the change and then restart it
[15:58] <UpuMobile> audio is mono
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[15:59] <G0MJW> But how can one legally transmit on HF from a balloon?
[15:59] <UpuMobile> usa
[15:59] <fsphil-laptop> yea, not in the uk
[15:59] Action: SpeedEvil should stop reading legislation.
[15:59] <SpeedEvil> It's addictive - in the same way that banging ones head against the wall is addictive.
[16:01] <G0MJW> Where does UK airspace stop vertically? If at all?
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> Neglecting the question asked - if you go high enough - the outer space act applies - with extrraterritoriality - you can't launch stuff as a UK citezen without the permission of the secetary of state - even if you're in a country which allows it.
[16:02] <fsphil-laptop> likely 100km? I dunno
[16:09] <G0MJW> Flashing lights - now there is an idea.
[16:10] <daveake> hmmm....
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[16:10] <fsphil-laptop> el eh dees
[16:11] <daveake> Red and yellow and green and blue ....
[16:11] <fsphil-laptop> 9600 baud ... mmmm
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[16:14] <griffonbot> @danielsaul: APEX Alpha launch - Saturday 22nd October at 11am - Churchill College, Cambridge - Launch Announcement: j.mp/oizE3w #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/danielsaul/status/125243080369635328]
[16:14] <griffonbot> @apexhab: APEX Alpha launch - Saturday 22nd October at 11am - Churchill College, Cambridge - Launch Announcement: j.mp/oizE3w #apexhab #ukhas [http://twitter.com/apexhab/status/125243157603561473]
[16:14] <daveake> [dave ponders] ... should I add a "To 40km, and BEYOND!" string to Buzz's telemetry when he breaks through that barrier ...
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> naah
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> Laser diode
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> + narrowband optical filter
[16:15] <daveake> :D
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> Factor of a hundred or more less background.
[16:17] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-Units-x-Deep-End-Narrow-band-Filter-808nm-HB720-Lasers-/290609533561?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a9ad9279 forex
[16:19] <G0MJW> 4000lb - better not drop it on anyone!
[16:19] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop: http://mbed.org/cookbook/Camera_LS_Y201
[16:20] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop: look how clean pictures he got!
[16:20] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop: how is this possible? My pictures are never so clean
[16:21] <daveake> Used a different camera
[16:22] <daveake> Whatever he used had a fairly shallow depth of field, and I would have thought those things would have a small aperture and large depth of field.
[16:22] <daveake> Anyway I'm just a cynic :)
[16:24] <fsphil-laptop> not too much different from yours nosebleedKT
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[16:28] <nosebleedKT> https://github.com/nosebleed/JpegTTLCam/raw/master/sample2.jpg
[16:28] <nosebleedKT> thats my pic
[16:28] <griffonbot> Received email: Dan Bowen "Re: [UKHAS] UKHAS 2011 Conference"
[16:28] <nosebleedKT> and thats me on the bicycle
[16:28] <nosebleedKT> :P
[16:29] <number10> Dan-K2VOL link for the wiki on whitestar.com seems dead points to the .org site http://wiki.whitestarballoon.org/
[16:30] <fsphil-laptop> nosebleedKT, that's pretty good
[16:31] <Lunar_Lander> yea :)
[16:33] <nosebleedKT> 640x480x24 = 7372800 bits
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[16:33] <nosebleedKT> with 36% compression how much do we get?
[16:34] <Dan-K2VOL> thank you number10
[16:34] <Dan-K2VOL> correcting it, our DNS on the .org is screwed up right now
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[16:34] <number10> i'll take a look when fixed dan
[16:34] <Dan-K2VOL> number10 can you tell me which page that link is on?
[16:35] <Dan-K2VOL> oh I see it
[16:35] <Dan-K2VOL> just change to .com and it will work
[16:35] <number10> tech details link is http://wiki.whitestarballoon.org/
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[16:36] <number10> Dan-K2VOL also flight tracking is linked to http://track.whitestarballoon.com/ seems dead
[16:37] <Dan-K2VOL> track is known dead, unceremoniously shut off until we get closer to flying, haven't got someone to update the website very often
[16:37] <Dan-K2VOL> fixed the .org issue
[16:37] <number10> ok thanks dan
[16:37] <fsphil-laptop> nice talk WB8ELK
[16:38] <Dan-K2VOL> gotta go folks, will keep an eye on when I can, thank you all for a fun and enlightening time!
[16:38] <fsphil-laptop> thanks Dan-K2VOL
[16:38] <number10> cheers dan
[16:39] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop: why image size always varies? 640x480x24 = 7372800 bits and with standart 36% compression.
[16:39] <fsphil-laptop> compress in jpeg depends on the complexity of the image
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[16:39] <fsphil-laptop> compression*
[16:39] <fsphil-laptop> some images are more compressible than others
[16:40] <nosebleedKT> my images are usually between 50-65kb
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[16:40] <G0MJW> E.g picture straight up into blackness compresses well compared to one with something visible
[16:47] <number10> Have we had the formalising UKHAS seesion yet?
[16:49] <WB8ELK> Here's some footage of my first flights 24 years ago...I was going to show the first flight but ran out of time: http://home.hiwaay.net/~bbrown/arhab20th.htm
[16:49] <fsphil-laptop> number10, nope - doubtful we have time either
[16:49] <fsphil-laptop> we're running late
[16:49] <fsphil-laptop> have to leave the building in 10 minutes :)
[16:50] <number10> thanks psphil-laptop
[16:54] <fsphil-laptop> going offline for a while
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[17:01] <number10> I love the stream of the exit
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[17:02] <G0MJW> Hmm - perhaps we ought to organise something ourselves.
[17:03] <UpuMobile> bye!
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[17:03] <G0MJW> Power off!
[17:07] <number10> I wasn't being critical G0MJW, I think the conference must have been difficult to do for the first time. deciding on the level of the presentations and controlling the timing.
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[17:14] <G0MJW> Number10 - not sure what you mean? I wasn't complaining. It seemed very good to me. We could never have done this when we were students in the 80s.
[17:15] <number10> ph ok sorry
[17:15] <number10> oh
[17:16] <number10> its becuse you said "perhaps we ought to organise something ourselves." sorry if I misunderstood
[17:18] <G0MJW> Oh - no I was serious about organising a meeting like we do for microwave round tables.
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[17:45] <kristianpaul> Btw do you have a blog planet or something?
[17:46] <WB8ELK> Great conference...really enjoyed all the presentations and discussions...I look forward to the next one
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[18:09] <number10> nice conference ed
[18:11] <DanielRichman> woo trains
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[18:11] <futurity> Great meeting up today
[18:12] <futurity> On train so intermittent signal
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[18:14] <griffonbot> @willduckworth: Really enjoyed the #ukhas conference today. Cheers guys [http://twitter.com/willduckworth/status/125273445591285760]
[18:14] <edmoore> Just got on train too
[18:15] <edmoore> Had a great day, cheers Anthony and James
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[18:16] <edmoore> Greetings fsphil-m
[18:16] <fsphil-m> Yo to
[18:16] <edmoore> Sorry I didnt get a chance to chat properly!
[18:16] <fsphil-m> Er. Yo
[18:16] <edmoore> So much happening in one day
[18:16] <fsphil-m> Hi ed, no worries was a busy day!
[18:17] <edmoore> Looks like there is enough content and people to make it a 2 day event next time.
[18:17] <fsphil-m> Definitely worth considering
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[18:25] <EI5GTB> yes, congrats to all, jolly good show
[18:25] <EI5GTB> im home now, if its any cosolation to all those on trans :P
[18:29] <edmoore> Blimey
[18:30] <griffonbot> Received email: David Bowkis "[UKHAS] Thanks"
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[18:31] <griffonbot> @adamcudworth: #UKHAS conf was good, nice to meet everyone! #highaltitude [http://twitter.com/adamcudworth/status/125277728923582464]
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[18:38] <NigelMoby> Yawwwwwn
[18:38] <edmoore> Where have you got to NigelMoby ?
[18:39] <NigelMoby> Just on train at paddington
[18:39] <edmoore> Ah ok
[18:39] <edmoore> Just got to reading
[18:39] <edmoore> Home in 45
[18:39] <NigelMoby> No fair lol
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[18:44] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[18:46] <Lunar_Lander> conference still underway?
[18:48] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: RT @willduckworth: Really enjoyed the #ukhas conference today. Cheers guys [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/125281824212652032]
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[18:48] <fsphil-laptop> we're on the train
[18:49] <fsphil-laptop> again :)
[18:49] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[18:49] <Lunar_Lander> so was it good?
[18:49] <fsphil-laptop> was indeed
[18:49] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[18:49] <Lunar_Lander> :
[18:49] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[18:49] <fsphil-laptop> nice to meet some of the regulars
[18:49] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[18:49] <Lunar_Lander> maybe I can be there too next time
[18:51] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[18:53] <fsphil-laptop> definitely, you should
[18:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah :)
[18:53] <fsphil-laptop> we'll have to get dan and bill over too
[18:53] <griffonbot> Received email: Philip Heron "Re: [UKHAS] Thanks"
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[18:55] <Lunar_Lander> yeah fsphil
[18:58] <Lunar_Lander> that would be awesome
[18:59] <fsphil-laptop> it's not much further than I am
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[19:03] <fsphil-laptop> looking through some of the recorded video, quality is good although the projector screen is a bit difficult to make out
[19:03] <fsphil-laptop> I've not listened to it yet either so I dunno what the sound quality is like
[19:04] <fsphil-laptop> The memory card ran out during the last lightning talk
[19:04] <fsphil-laptop> but everything else looks to have been recorded fine
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[19:10] <griffonbot> Received email: David Akerman "Re: [UKHAS] Thanks"
[19:12] <fsphil-laptop> hiya daveake, how's the predictions for tomorrow?
[19:20] <daveake> Almost unchanged ... .has been very consistent the whole week
[19:20] <Lunar_Lander> yeah fsphil-laptop
[19:20] <daveake> Quite close to Cambridge.
[19:20] <daveake> Do I get extra points for landing on one of the 2 launch sites? :p
[19:20] <fsphil-laptop> that could be good
[19:21] <fsphil-laptop> you get at least 16 points
[19:21] <number10> thats too many points
[19:21] <number10> ihe may fake it
[19:22] <fsphil-laptop> mm
[19:22] <daveake> So long as it's more than for a sea recovery :)
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[19:23] <fsphil-laptop> A sea launch would be nice
[19:23] <daveake> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=96f0127c4241a198f7c0a4a2718a5e6eafd6d8bc
[19:23] <fsphil-laptop> nice sharp turn
[19:24] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop: do we know the jpeg cam if it does RGB or the other thing ?
[19:24] <fsphil-laptop> the other thing?
[19:24] <daveake> Hmmmm ..... wonder how DM would react to the request ...
[19:24] <nosebleedKT> some YXY symbols
[19:24] <nosebleedKT> :P
[19:24] <fsphil-laptop> I don't know of the linksprite does rgb
[19:24] <fsphil-laptop> it'll be in the datasheet
[19:24] <nosebleedKT> idont find it!
[19:25] <number10> nice to see early launch daveake
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[19:25] <daveake> That's 8:00 UTC ... 9:00 summertime. It'll probably be about 9:30 when I actually launch
[19:27] <daveake> Only me and Mrs Dave this time!
[19:27] <daveake> And she usually just watches :p
[19:27] <daveake> (I'm talking about launches, for anyone with a dirty mind ....)
[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> lol
[19:28] <number10> If there are plenty of people tracking, I may try a trip mobile towards landing
[19:29] <fsphil-laptop> I'll still be in cardiff, should be a nice signal
[19:29] Action: fsphil-laptop just got robbed by the train ticket guy
[19:30] <fsphil-laptop> the automatic ticket thing give me two tickets this-morning, and the machine in london needed it to get out, but didn't give it back
[19:30] <fsphil-laptop> and apparently the other one isn't a ticket
[19:31] <sbasuita> odd. it only swallows it up if the ticket isnt valid for any more trips
[19:31] <fsphil-laptop> yea, bit confused. he said I can get a refund for the ticked I had to buy now if I can prove I've already paid
[19:32] <EI5GTB> anyone know of any good ft817s second hand for sale?
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[19:33] <fsphil-laptop> tunnel...
[19:33] <fsphil-laptop> oh still connected
[19:34] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[19:37] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop: the camera does JPEG compression and then another 36% ?
[19:37] <Lunar_Lander> one day I was in a train to Muenster and several "hip-hoppers" were on the train as well
[19:37] <nosebleedKT> is says it does 36% compression. This compression is done after a jpeg compression ?
[19:38] <Lunar_Lander> and then we went through a tunnel and the one guy said "Hey man why is it dark suddenly, who turned off the light?"
[19:38] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[19:38] <fsphil-laptop> you can't compress a jpeg
[19:38] <fsphil-laptop> the 36% is probably the jpeg quality level
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[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> hi GW8RAK
[19:43] <fsphil-laptop> hiya GW8RAK
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[19:45] <GW8RAK> Hi Lunar_Lander, Hi Phil.
[19:45] <GW8RAK> How was it today?
[19:46] <Lunar_Lander> I am good, thanks
[19:46] <fsphil-laptop> was a great day
[19:46] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[19:46] <GW8RAK> Not as good as we had. A fantastic walk in Snowdonia. Clear blue skies, warm sun, no wind.
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> what was it again when you want to speak welsh?
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> like you have your mouth full?
[19:48] <GW8RAK> Karen thinks it's good that 2 people said hello tonight as it means I have 2 friends ! :)
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> you said something about that yesterday
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> xD yay!
[19:49] <GW8RAK> That's it Lunar, you need a throat infection to make the right sounds.
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[19:50] <GW8RAK> I'm English, I don't speak Welsh
[19:51] <Lunar_Lander> lol
[19:51] <Lunar_Lander> ok
[19:51] <Lunar_Lander> and who is Karen?
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[19:51] <GW8RAK> That is the wonderful women sitting next to me
[19:52] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[19:52] <GW8RAK> that should be woman
[19:52] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[19:52] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[19:52] <GW8RAK> (I have to say that otherwise she'll hit me)
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[19:58] <Lunar_Lander> back
[20:00] <Lunar_Lander> GW8RAK: sorry the system hang
[20:00] <GW8RAK> Had big connection problems here since yesterday
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[20:05] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[20:06] <number10> what route did you do GW8RAK?
[20:06] <GW8RAK> Northern Snowdonia in the Carneddau.
[20:07] <GW8RAK> Parked at Cwm Eigiau then walked around to the bothy in Cwm Dulyn for lunch
[20:07] <GW8RAK> Really wonderful
[20:07] <number10> from ogwen valley or from north?
[20:07] <number10> slow type sorry
[20:07] <GW8RAK> Eigiau is up a steep road from the Conway valley
[20:07] <fsphil-laptop> GW8RAK, did you have a listen for the payload today?
[20:08] <GW8RAK> Had a listen about 0400, but there was nothing. Listened again later in case it came back with warmth, but nothing
[20:08] <fsphil-laptop> yea thought as much
[20:08] <fsphil-laptop> thanks for trying
[20:09] <fsphil-laptop> good chance it lifted off again today but the battery is most likely dead
[20:12] <GW8RAK> number10 53°11'17.99"N 3°53'44.70"W
[20:12] <number10> ta
[20:12] <GW8RAK> Can't workout how to just post the position
[20:12] <number10> can see where u started not too sure were u went
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> are there many level crossings?
[20:15] <GW8RAK> number10, roughly west, you come to Cwm Dulyn where the bothy is
[20:16] <GW8RAK> It's only 45 minutes away, so very convenient
[20:17] <number10> oh I am looking at lly Cwm Dulyn
[20:17] <number10> miles away
[20:17] <GW8RAK> fsphil-laptop, it was a promising flight and certainly the strongest signal I've heard
[20:17] <GW8RAK> Only 6 miles round trip
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[20:18] <GW8RAK> Really must get out in the hills more often.
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[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> and are there many LCs?
[20:19] <number10> was a nice day for a walk
[20:20] <Lunar_Lander> LC=Level Crossing
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[20:22] <fsphil-laptop> back in wales
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[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> GW8RAK: ?
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> hi NigelMoby
[20:23] <GW8RAK> Sorry Lunar. Why LC's?
[20:23] <GW8RAK> No railways near there.
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[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> didn't know that
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[20:25] <GW8RAK> Lots of industrial ruins, mining and quarrying
[20:27] <GW8RAK> Also quite a few aircraft wrecks from those which couldn't climb over the mountains
[20:29] <fsphil-laptop> ooch
[20:31] <GW8RAK> Is/are there launches tomorrow?
[20:34] <number10> yes GW8RAK - daveake is launching buzz
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[20:35] <GW8RAK> Should be able to listen in and try the yagi.
[20:36] <fsphil-laptop> yea gonna have a listen for that too
[20:36] <GW8RAK> Will you still be in Wales?
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[20:37] <GW8RAK> Have we got a time for buzz?
[20:37] <fsphil-laptop> silly tunnels
[20:37] <number10> about 930 launch
[20:38] <Lunar_Lander> oh that sound sad GW8RAK
[20:38] <Lunar_Lander> the aircraft thing
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[20:38] <fsphil-laptop> there's an aircraft wreck somewhere on our local mountain
[20:39] <Lunar_Lander> ohh
[20:39] <GW8RAK> There a many aircraft all over the mountains Lunar. If they had a problem and couldn't climb quick enough, they went in.
[20:39] <fsphil-laptop> I've been told it was from the war
[20:39] <GW8RAK> The low water level showed the remains of a large propellor
[20:39] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[20:40] <GW8RAK> Nearby are the remains of a Mosquito. All that is there is the undercarriage and the armour plate from the pilots seat
[20:41] <fsphil-laptop> not far from cardiff, shutting down
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[20:42] <GW8RAK> number10, if you come south from the point I gave you earlier, you'll find a T junction. The walk starts there and you can see the footpath if you zoom in.
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[20:43] <GW8RAK> And the bothy is visible
[20:43] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:43] <number10> GW*RAK i see the star - been looking at the map - can you go a lttle further into the walk raght click - select what is here and you get a grid ref
[20:44] <juxta> ping NigelMoby
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[20:45] <GW8RAK> I thought there was an easy way of sending a google earth point, but can't remember it now
[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> hi RocketBoy
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[20:45] <RocketBoy> hey - i'm back from the confrence
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[20:45] <doughecka> is it over?
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[20:46] <doughecka> I'm guessing so:)
[20:47] <number10> not too sure my self GW8RAK, but i think if you right click a point and then select "what is here" you get a mark , and you can get the location from that mark
[20:48] <GW8RAK> Will try
[20:48] <number10> conference is over dougheckta
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[20:57] <doughecka> :) my recording is uploading... 2.27GB. kg4ymg.com/ukhas/
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[20:58] <doughecka> eta 8 hours.
[21:01] <Lunar_Lander> to youtube?
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[21:04] <doughecka> my website. I don't have an accountthat can have 10 hour videos :)
[21:07] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[21:22] <fsphil-laptop> aaah back in the house
[21:23] <Darkside> heh
[21:23] <Darkside> back in snake-free country?
[21:24] <GW8RAK> Has NigeyS tried to feed you on lavabread fsphil-laptop? South Wales delicacy
[21:26] <fsphil-laptop> he's not mentioned it yet GW8RAK ...
[21:26] <fsphil-laptop> Darkside, well Wales. Land of the red dragon :)
[21:26] <fsphil-laptop> I'm not back to the snake-deprived isle until tomorrow
[21:27] <number10> did you sleep at all Darkside?
[21:27] <Darkside> yeah
[21:27] <number10> it only seems like a few hours ago you were on skype
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[21:34] <Randomskk> woo conference!
[21:34] <Randomskk> thanks so much Upu and jcoxon!
[21:36] <number10> can you post your slides sometime Randomskk
[21:37] <Darkside> ok what else do i need for the launch...
[21:37] <fsphil-laptop> woo too!
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[21:41] <Randomskk> yea, sure
[21:41] <Randomskk> where would be useful?
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[21:46] <NigeyS> whos back then?
[21:46] <Darkside> me me me
[21:46] <NigeyS> haha ello you :p
[21:46] <NigeyS> good talk btw DS
[21:47] <Darkside> i wrote it while james was talking before me >_>
[21:47] <NigeyS> i passed around the meganut pcb, they were pretty impressed with it
[21:47] <NigeyS> lol
[21:47] <Darkside> the meganut pcb was a hack :P
[21:47] <Darkside> as i told phil
[21:47] <Darkside> oh well, i guess it worked
[21:48] <NigeyS> it worked fine though, we managed to get the htx2 working by altering that screw
[21:48] <Darkside> ok
[21:49] <Darkside> gettinc picked up for the launch in a minute
[21:49] <NigeyS> ook dude, have fun, and tnx again :D
[21:49] <fsphil-laptop> oooh launchy
[21:49] <Randomskk> #.
[21:49] <NigeyS> ADAM!
[21:49] <Randomskk> uuugh so much lag
[21:50] <Randomskk> hi nigeys!
[21:50] <NigeyS> you home, or still in transit ?
[21:50] <Randomskk> home
[21:50] <Randomskk> this is a bit better. loads of irc lag for some reason
[21:50] <Randomskk> anyway slides for all my talks are now up at http://ukhas.org.uk/general:ukhasconference
[21:50] <NigeyS> yeah i had alot of it last night
[21:50] <Randomskk> think it's just my home wifi atm
[21:51] <Randomskk> at home tonight, going back to cambridge tomorrow a.m.
[21:51] <NigeyS> ahh brill, great talks btw, didnt realise habitat was such a huge project tbh
[21:51] <Randomskk> hehe thanks
[21:51] <Randomskk> it may be overengineered but we like to think it's future proof :P
[21:51] <NigeyS> nothing wrong with futureproofing :D
[21:52] <Randomskk> I had lots of fun presenting
[21:52] <Randomskk> those little slide things are great, I think I'll get one
[21:52] <fsphil-laptop> was all good
[21:52] <NigeyS> i'd have been a nervous wreck hehe
[21:52] <Randomskk> naah it's not so bad
[21:52] <Randomskk> but yea it was a really ace conference
[21:53] <Randomskk> nice to finally put faces to all these names, too
[21:53] <NigeyS> definately, must do it again
[21:54] <number10> I think your bit went very well Randomskk
[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> hey NigeyS
[21:55] <NigeyS> hey kev
[21:55] <fsphil-laptop> I may insert the slides into the video
[21:55] <fsphil-laptop> the screen was a bit faded on the camera
[21:56] <number10> thanks for putting the slides up - as it was a little difficult to see via the stream.
[21:56] <Randomskk> the google doc links I've provided should allow pdf export or such
[21:56] <fsphil-laptop> does!
[21:56] <fsphil-laptop> very nifty
[21:56] <Randomskk> no problem, they were all basically online anyway, just a case of sharing the link really
[21:58] <number10> I'll have a look tomorrow - thanks for sharing. off now
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[22:30] <fsphil-laptop> rar
[22:30] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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[22:38] <Laurenceb_> hi
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[22:43] <Laurenceb_> train was stuck for ages :-/
[22:44] <fsphil-laptop> urg
[22:48] <fsphil-laptop> only just home?
[22:48] <SpeedEvil> Bastards stealing the wires again?
[22:49] <fsphil-laptop> oh we forgot to do the group photo
[22:49] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: http://t.co/ANWvUiSv Horus 17, ready to fly! #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/125342525161619456]
[22:52] <Darkside> hey guys
[22:53] <DanielRichman> fsphil-laptop: oh yeah; missed an opportunity there
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> hi Darkside
[22:53] <Darkside> ey
[22:53] <Darkside> hey
[22:53] <Laurenceb_> maybe - points failure
[22:53] <Laurenceb_> was stuck for an hour
[22:54] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: http://t.co/Pi4avWpl Small balloon! #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/125343766381994032]
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[22:54] <NigeyS> lol laurenceb unlucky dude :(
[22:54] <Laurenceb_> conference was first class
[22:56] <fsphil-laptop> was that
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[22:56] <fsphil-laptop> will go through the videos tomorrow and get 'em online
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[22:57] <Laurenceb_> right im going to get some sleep
[22:57] <Laurenceb_> cy all
[22:58] <SpeedEvil> Night!
[22:58] <Laurenceb_> good luck with the launch Darkside
[22:58] <griffonbot> @jonsowman: RT @apexhab: APEX Alpha launch - Saturday 22nd October at 11am - Churchill College, Cambridge - Launch Announcement: j.mp/oizE3w #apexha ... [http://twitter.com/jonsowman/status/125344873229451265]
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[23:00] <NigeyS> brb!
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[23:11] <Darkside> neck lift is 1kg
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[23:12] <NigeyMoby> Wee
[23:12] <Darkside> ok we're going to let terry get a head-start
[23:12] <Darkside> because its not going to fly for ong
[23:12] <Darkside> long*
[23:13] <NigeyMoby> Pico, or normal ?
[23:13] <Darkside> pico
[23:13] <Darkside> i posted a pic earlier
[23:14] <NigeyMoby> Oo schweet
[23:14] <Darkside> http://t.co/Pi4avWpl
[23:14] <daveake> Someone with an inflatable head?
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[23:15] <NigeyMoby> That a 300gm?
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[23:24] <shenki> Darkside: good morning
[23:24] <shenki> Darkside: should i be able to hear it?
[23:26] <juxta-chasecar> Darkside, in Mt Barker now.
[23:29] <Darkside> yeah ok
[23:30] <Darkside> shenki: no
[23:30] <Darkside> we havet aunched yet
[23:30] <Darkside> we will give terry another 10 minutes
[23:30] <juxta-chasecar> you mean t-money? who's terry?
[23:31] <shenki> i'm on a boat...
[23:31] <Darkside> lol
[23:31] <Darkside> i'm in a shed
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[23:31] <Darkside> garage
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[23:32] <Darkside> juxta-chasecar: give us a call on RMB when you are ready for us to launch
[23:32] <Darkside> im going offline
[23:32] <juxta-chasecar> there's someone talking constantly on the radio, very fuzzy atm.
[23:37] <Darkside> yeah
[23:37] <Darkside> i see
[23:37] <Darkside> we
[23:37] <Darkside> we're thinking of letting you get to murray bridge
[23:37] <Darkside> or at least most of the way there first
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[23:39] <juxta-chasecar> go ahead whenever the wind dies down
[23:40] <Darkside> you reckon?
[23:40] <Darkside> sure you don't want more of headstart?
[23:41] <Darkside> ok
[23:41] <Darkside> we're going to launch
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[23:43] <juxta-chasecar> sounds good
[23:46] <shenki> ive got it :)
[23:47] <Darkside> hey
[23:47] <Darkside> shenki: good
[23:47] <Darkside> can you please decode
[23:48] <juxta-chasecar> we're recieving the balloon
[23:48] <Darkside> good
[23:48] <Darkside> i see
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[23:48] <Darkside> almost at 2kg
[23:49] <Darkside> 2km*
[23:49] <Darkside> juxta-chasecar: it went up REALLY fast
[23:49] <Darkside> and was flailing around a lot
[23:50] <Darkside> shenki: can you decode?
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[23:51] <shenki> Darkside: getting it set up
[23:51] <Darkside> cool
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[23:53] <shenki> gah. i can hear it on the R10, but the waterfall isn't showing it. what might i be doing wrong?
[23:53] <Darkside> uhh
[23:53] <Dan-K2VOL> audio cable not plugged in?
[23:53] <Darkside> then you're doing it wrong
[23:53] <Dan-K2VOL> wrong soundcard input selected?
[23:53] <Dan-K2VOL> volume level wrong?
[23:53] <Darkside> yeah check the sound card seletion in dl-fldigi
[23:54] <shenki> ah, i was just tuend too far away from it
[23:54] <Dan-K2VOL> nice to see the prediction is back on the tracker
[23:54] <shenki> uploading setnences now :0
[23:54] <shenki> :)
[23:54] <Darkside> cool
[23:54] <Darkside> shenki: please set your operator position
[23:54] <Darkside> you are showing at 0,0
[23:54] <shenki> hrm, i did...
[23:55] <shenki> http://jms.id.au/~shenki/tmp/settings.png
[23:56] <Dan-K2VOL> I think the database doesn't update your position, it may have to be cleared manually from the DB
[23:56] <Darkside> give it time
[23:56] <Darkside> it'll update
[23:56] <Darkside> juxta-chasecar: did you hear that?
[23:56] <Dan-K2VOL> cool!
[23:57] <Darkside> we were playing ride of the valkyries on the murray bridge repeater
[23:58] <MrCraig> Please ignore this post
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