highaltitude.log.20111011

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[13:58] <Randomskk> okay, habhub.org and ukhas.org.uk are back and dl-fldigi and the tracker should all be working
[13:58] Action: Zuph wishes he had the money to alter the flow of time.
[13:58] <daveake> :D:D:D
[13:58] <costyn> Randomskk: sweet
[13:58] <Randomskk> thanks to Upu for getting it all sorted
[13:59] <UpuWork> not promising fixed there is an underlying fault with it
[13:59] <UpuWork> but its on the bench now
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[13:59] <Laurenceb> dont see anything on the tracket
[14:00] <g8khw-iPhone> Tis awA
[14:00] <g8khw-iPhone> Away
[14:00] <Laurenceb> nothing on tracker
[14:00] <g8khw-iPhone> Not connex
[14:00] <UpuWork> its back up Steve
[14:00] <UpuWork> so refresh and try connect
[14:02] <G8DSU> Now't on tracker here apart from a car from the future in Holland. Despite a refresh...
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[14:03] <UpuWork> its only just come online
[14:03] <Randomskk> no one is uploading any telem
[14:03] <Randomskk> k bbl
[14:03] <junderwood> I have a signal. Dial freq is 434071.6
[14:03] <Randomskk> mention me if anything goes badly wrong
[14:03] <Dan-K2VOL> oh I do love how we can spot time travellers with spacenear.us
[14:03] <junderwood> no good decodes yet
[14:03] <costyn> Dan-K2VOL: :)
[14:04] <costyn> there it is
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[14:05] <costyn> anyone have a habhub prediction for the path?
[14:05] <G8DSU> Thanks for sorting things. Now to see if I can receive it...
[14:05] <cuddykid_mob> hi all, hopefully ill be able to come to conference on sat :)
[14:06] <cuddykid_mob> how much is the conference?
[14:07] <UpuWork> its on the map now
[14:07] <UpuWork> back soon
[14:07] <fsphil> ooh I must fire up my rig
[14:07] <fsphil> UpuWork, you may need to expand the range of ISH time
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[14:11] <number10> I think I'll pop outside to see if I can see it
[14:12] <g8khw-iPhone> Is it on tracker yet
[14:12] <jgrahamc> Is there a predicted flight path anywhere?
[14:12] <costyn> g8khw-iPhone: yes
[14:12] <number10> yes
[14:12] <number10> getting clearly here
[14:12] <g8khw-iPhone> Wv
[14:12] <g8khw-iPhone> Whats the ascent rate
[14:12] <daveake> 3.3
[14:12] <jgrahamc> 3.2 m/s
[14:13] <g8khw-iPhone> Ok spot on
[14:13] <g8khw-iPhone> Im heading home to track from the coast
[14:13] <number10> someone else will have to pick it up soon as I got to leave in 20 mins
[14:13] <g8khw-iPhone> Bbl
[14:14] <number10> looks like someone has
[14:14] <daveake> Got it here now
[14:14] <costyn> the little radio tower icons are missing from the map?
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[14:15] <Dan-K2VOL> whoever did the icons for this did very well
[14:15] <Dan-K2VOL> btw
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[14:19] <number10> my radio tower icon may not be there as when I started I did not put in location - I have refreshed data
[14:19] <fsphil> the tracker? think natrium42 did those
[14:21] <Laurenceb> where are the base stations?
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[14:44] <fsphil> it's moving pretty quick
[14:46] <costyn> fsphil: pretty windy over here
[14:47] <costyn> is anyone going to go pick it up?
[14:48] <costyn> at the moment it's heading straight for my inlaws house :)
[14:49] <junderwood> I think the chase car may be in the wrong country
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[14:51] <SamSilver> junderwood: you think a bit more south?
[14:51] <junderwood> based on the current direction, yes. Not looked at the higher level winds, though
[14:51] <Dan-K2VOL> well looks like they picked a good wind day for it
[14:51] <fsphil> what's the dial frequency?
[14:52] <costyn> the predictor said close to antwerp
[14:52] <junderwood> 434072.6
[14:52] <fsphil> thanks
[14:53] <fsphil> not high enough yet
[14:54] <junderwood> Signal has just dropped off in a big way
[14:54] <fsphil> though it's probably moving away faster than the horizon is increasing
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[14:55] <costyn> ah Dutch-Mill's receiver has got it
[14:56] <Dutch-Mill> Yep weak signal but it decodes
[14:56] <costyn> Dutch-Mill: are you going to go pick up the payload?
[14:57] <Dutch-Mill> Nop...
[14:57] <Dutch-Mill> Unless it lands nearby
[14:57] Action: LazyLeopard is tracking using the colinear... No time to rig the yagi...
[14:57] <costyn> Dutch-Mill: is that your car on the tracker?
[14:58] <Dutch-Mill> No that was yesterday...but he's still on the map
[14:58] <costyn> oh ok
[14:59] <costyn> weird future time stamps :)
[14:59] <Dutch-Mill> Can i have my antenna icon back ;-)
[14:59] <Dan-K2VOL> has the horizon circle size error been fixed? last winter we noticed in white star testing that the horizon circles change size depending on your distance from the equator
[15:00] <fsphil> still does that
[15:00] <Dan-K2VOL> haha ok
[15:01] <Dutch-Mill> Well the earth isn't perfect ;-)
[15:01] <Dan-K2VOL> hehe
[15:01] <Laurenceb> it should change
[15:01] <Laurenceb> due to the map projection
[15:01] <fsphil> the true footprint is not a circle
[15:01] <Dan-K2VOL> oh, but then it shouldn't be a circle
[15:01] <Laurenceb> well yes
[15:01] <Laurenceb> but google maps doesnt allow that
[15:01] <Dan-K2VOL> but I see what you mean
[15:01] <fsphil> you can draw the actual footprint on google maps fairly easily
[15:02] <Laurenceb> unless maybe if you did a polygon
[15:02] <UpuWork> Nessie is a noisy bastard
[15:02] <UpuWork> anyone got an issue with me switching it off ? :)
[15:02] <fsphil> it's playing bagpipes?
[15:03] <fsphil> (obscure 90s cartoon reference there :)
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[15:04] <fsphil> 80s even
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[15:07] <nosebleedKT> Tomorrow i start working!
[15:07] <costyn> if it keeps going at this rate it's gonna land in Germany
[15:08] <daveake> :-)
[15:08] <fsphil> congrats nosebleedKT
[15:08] <nosebleedKT> thanks fsphil
[15:09] <costyn> nosebleedKT: does that mean the Greek economy is improving? :)
[15:09] <nosebleedKT> no
[15:09] <costyn> nosebleedKT: and congrats on the new job (I'm guessing?) :)
[15:09] <nosebleedKT> it bleeds
[15:09] <nosebleedKT> they give me 700e per month as a trial start
[15:09] <costyn> for how many hours a week?
[15:10] <nosebleedKT> 8*5
[15:10] <daveake> Well, I found out why the signal from XABVEN was shit here .... I have a smallish Yagi jammed in a partly opened upstairs window. The window frame was de-tuning the aerial. The aerial is now held in place with sticky tape ...
[15:10] <nosebleedKT> php/mysql/html will be the main thing
[15:10] <costyn> ouch... 700E for 40 hours a week?
[15:10] <daveake> .... I must invest in something more permanent :p
[15:11] <nosebleedKT> costyn: its much or little? :P
[15:11] <costyn> nosebleedKT: too little?
[15:11] <nosebleedKT> welcome to greece ?
[15:11] <daveake> Below minimum wage here
[15:11] <costyn> yea minimum wage here in NL is like 1750E
[15:11] <daveake> Or close anyway
[15:11] <nosebleedKT> lol
[15:11] <nosebleedKT> NL
[15:11] <nosebleedKT> here basic is 780E
[15:11] <costyn> nosebleedKT: you should come work here in NL
[15:12] <nosebleedKT> costyn: i dont know the lang and someone to help me!
[15:12] <daveake> They all speak English :D
[15:12] <costyn> nosebleedKT: well, there are companies that employ foreigners and speak english. If you want to consider it, I woudln't mind helping you out
[15:12] <nosebleedKT> a! and no insurance!
[15:13] <nosebleedKT> forget to tell the most important :P
[15:13] <nosebleedKT> well costyn thats kind of you
[15:13] <nosebleedKT> but i will think of moving to a north country if only greece bankrupts
[15:13] <costyn> nosebleedKT: ok weather is shit here anyways
[15:13] <costyn> :)
[15:14] <nosebleedKT> and i hate your cloudy and rainy weather up there.
[15:14] <nosebleedKT> like in UK
[15:14] <nosebleedKT> and those places up there
[15:14] <nosebleedKT> i only like valhalla from there ::P
[15:15] <costyn> :)
[15:15] <nosebleedKT> odin
[15:15] <nosebleedKT> :P
[15:15] <nosebleedKT> costyn: how NL woman look like?
[15:15] <costyn> nosebleedKT: not too bad actually; better than UK women :P
[15:16] <costyn> but not as good as Scandinavian women
[15:16] <nosebleedKT> in comparison to greek ones? :p
[15:16] <costyn> pff... I haven't been in Greece for a long time; couldn't say
[15:17] <Dutch-Mill> bigger balloons I guess
[15:17] <daveake> I have. It's a tricky decision ... :)
[15:17] <costyn> Dutch-Mill: hehe
[15:18] <daveake> That's inflation for you
[15:18] <Dutch-Mill> but it feels like thin air
[15:20] <Dutch-Mill> talking about balloons ...whats the prediction ?
[15:20] <nosebleedKT> costyn: if 1750e is salary there how much is the rent ?
[15:20] <costyn> nosebleedKT: anywhere from 600 upwards
[15:21] <costyn> for a small apartment
[15:21] <nosebleedKT> and is the food cost there?
[15:21] <nosebleedKT> from 1750e how much will stay in my pocket in one month?
[15:21] <fsphil> lots of noise on 70cm today
[15:22] <Dutch-Mill> yes lot of ' garden fun qrm'
[15:22] <costyn> nosebleedKT: hard to say, 1750 is before taxes, so you're left with about 1400 or so, guestimating you'll have 300 or 400 in your pocket
[15:22] <nosebleedKT> lol
[15:28] <costyn> XABEN is sure taking it's time getting to altitude
[15:29] <Laurenceb> garden fun?
[15:29] Action: costyn is afk... back later
[15:30] <Dutch-Mill> I mean all the ISM transmitter nearby
[15:33] <Upu> I might even be able to recieve it when I get home in an hour
[15:49] <fsphil> well outside my range now I think
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[15:49] <g8khw-iPhone> Hello
[15:50] <daveake> It's the furthest I've tracked one. That's not saying much though :p
[15:50] <g8khw-iPhone> Hows my flight going - no internet ere
[15:50] <daveake> 18.5km up
[15:50] <fsphil> current dial?
[15:50] <g8khw-iPhone> Whats the ascent rate
[15:51] <daveake> Getting towards the coast near Zeebrugge
[15:51] <daveake> 3
[15:51] <daveake> 434.0765
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[15:51] <g8khw-iPhone> Cheers
[15:52] <fsphil> got some lines, can't tell if it's the payl;oad
[15:52] <SamSilver> 18841m @ 3.4m/s
[15:52] <g8khw-iPhone> A fine day for my internet dongle to stop working
[15:52] <fsphil> unlikely tbh
[15:53] <fsphil> I've got lines every 1000hz for some reason
[15:53] <UpuWork> wheres all the recievers on the map ?
[15:54] <G8DSU> Clearly visible on waterfall in SW London but insufficient S/N to decode. Must get the antenna on the chimney, loft mounted has particularly poor visibility to east...
[15:55] <g8khw-iPhone> How mAny receivers have we got?
[15:55] <daveake> 5 at the mo
[15:56] <g8khw-iPhone> Thanks - ill give tim z a ring
[15:56] <g8khw-iPhone> Bbl
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[16:02] <SpeedEvil> Oooh!
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> Neat.
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> Nearly over land again - I'd looked away for a bit.
[16:02] <daveake> :)
[16:02] <g8khw-iPhone> Sorry about all the qs - how far from the coast is it?
[16:03] <SamSilver> 65 miles fro antwerp
[16:03] <daveake> ~20 miles from being over the coast
[16:03] <SamSilver> yip 20
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> I make it 20 miles from the coast
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> maybe 30 till landfall though
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[16:03] <TimZaman> hi guys
[16:03] <g8khw-iPhone> Oh right - i think it. Will make it then
[16:03] <TimZaman> whats the status
[16:03] <daveake> hi Tim
[16:04] <SamSilver> 21 065m @ 3.4m/s
[16:04] <TimZaman> haha i didnt know we were still on today =) didnt hear anything today so i figured it would delay =)
[16:04] <daveake> 21km up; 30km from the coast; heading towards Antwerp
[16:04] <TimZaman> still rising?
[16:04] <daveake> yep
[16:04] <TimZaman> yeah i see it on the map
[16:04] <TimZaman> emmmm..
[16:04] <g8khw-iPhone> Predicted burst is about 40 km
[16:04] <TimZaman> yeah what can i do.
[16:04] <SpeedEvil> Ignore me, I can't work a scale
[16:04] <TimZaman> belgium truly truly sucks in terms of accesability
[16:05] <daveake> We need someone in Germany ;)
[16:05] <TimZaman> especially since i bet its going to aachen or something
[16:05] <g8khw-iPhone> So may go a bit further than i thought
[16:05] <TimZaman> ooooh i see dutch mill is already on it?
[16:05] Action: SpeedEvil tries to remember where that person he talked to in another channel was...
[16:06] <TimZaman> im going to see if i can get a fix from my window
[16:06] <TimZaman> what freq?
[16:06] <TimZaman> 434065
[16:06] <TimZaman> ?
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> Ah - finland.
[16:06] <TimZaman> freq?
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> Probably not helpful.
[16:06] <daveake> 434.075 on my receiver; nands at 1400 and 1800
[16:06] <daveake> bands
[16:06] <TimZaman> baud? 50?
[16:06] <costyn> what about Lunar Lander ?
[16:06] <daveake> 50 7 N 1
[16:06] <number10> 434.075
[16:06] <TimZaman> i believe lunar doesnt have a radio yet
[16:07] <fsphil> lunar has a scanner
[16:07] <g8khw-iPhone> Cheers
[16:07] <number10> were is lunar based?
[16:08] <TimZaman> lol i can reach it from here
[16:09] <g8khw-iPhone> I have a 13db s/n on the car whip antenna
[16:09] <daveake> That's 16 or so more than me :)
[16:10] <TimZaman> i have a VERY STRONG fix from miuddle int eh city
[16:10] <TimZaman> trying to set up a base here very quickly
[16:12] <SamSilver> Xaben has made a left turn of about 75degs
[16:13] <g8khw-iPhone> Heading north?
[16:13] <SamSilver> NE
[16:14] <daveake> Just a wobble I think. East now
[16:14] <SamSilver> yes just a few plots of it heading NE
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[16:14] <SamSilver> a bit more than a mile
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[16:16] <SamSilver> 23 393m @ 4.0 m/s
[16:16] <SamSilver> now 3.1 m/s
[16:16] <g8khw-iPhone> Ta
[16:17] <g8khw-iPhone> Its really anoying - no internet - no tracker
[16:18] Action: SpeedEvil ponders the tracker knowing how to tweet.
[16:18] <SamSilver> it is heading for land-fall north of Zeebrugge about 20 Km out
[16:19] <Dan-K2VOL> land-ho!
[16:19] <SamSilver> well crossing the coast
[16:19] <SamSilver> Hi Dan-K2VOL
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[16:19] <TimZaman> before i kill someone
[16:19] <TimZaman> tell me the settings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:19] <Dan-K2VOL> hi dave
[16:19] <TimZaman> 50 baud?
[16:19] <TimZaman> i got a clear view good signal but no settings
[16:19] <TimZaman> internet keeps falling
[16:19] <number10> 50 7 n 1
[16:19] <TimZaman> someone tell me and quick plz
[16:19] <TimZaman> ok\
[16:19] <SamSilver> the following are copying NUMBER10, DAVEAKE, DUTCH-MILL, HOWEST, M0LEP
[16:19] <Dan-K2VOL> does dl-fldigi not have them ?
[16:20] <TimZaman> Locked.
[16:20] <TimZaman> No
[16:20] <number10> yes it does dan
[16:20] <Dan-K2VOL> :-(
[16:20] <Dan-K2VOL> oh, perhaps someone could refresh tim on how to load those
[16:20] <Dan-K2VOL> I can't remember
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> Catching a fair wind. ~10m/s
[16:21] <costyn> its now about where HOWEST splashed down
[16:22] <number10> dl-client- refresh data (I think you need to do) then click the flight box and list of payloads select XABEN - then clcik autoconfigure
[16:22] <costyn> actually that was further out
[16:22] <SpeedEvil> I don't see it can really burst before oostberg.
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[16:23] <costyn> speak of the devil, HOWEST is recieving too
[16:23] <Dan-K2VOL> was the launch date/time chosen to optimize wind predictions?
[16:23] <g8khw-iPhone> Sort of
[16:24] Action: SpeedEvil votes for Brussels.
[16:24] <number10> is this the eurovision song contest ;)
[16:24] <Dan-K2VOL> You are about to take advantage of the ICAO provision that allows light free balloons to enter other countries without notification. If that's a light balloon
[16:24] <g8khw-iPhone> Based on a view late yesterday
[16:24] <Dan-K2VOL> :-)
[16:24] <g8khw-iPhone> Tis
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[16:25] Nick change: SamSilver -> SamSilver_
[16:25] <SamSilver_> afk
[16:25] <g8khw-iPhone> 500g
[16:26] <g8khw-iPhone> Is it over land yet?
[16:26] <daveake> Nope
[16:27] <daveake> ~15km or so with the direction is going
[16:27] <g8khw-iPhone> 15km to burst - 65% up
[16:28] <costyn> seems to have slowed down a lot
[16:28] <number10> funn thing g8khw-iPhone, it nearly went over your house on the way
[16:28] <number10> funny
[16:28] <g8khw-iPhone> Ha ha - wow
[16:28] <daveake> 320km from here. Comfortably the furthest I've tracked so far :)
[16:30] <Dan-K2VOL> bravo
[16:30] <g8khw-iPhone> Duch guys - when does it get dark there local time?
[16:30] <daveake> Not bad for a yagi sellotaped to the window :)
[16:31] <costyn> g8khw-iPhone: think about an hour or so. it's already getting dusky
[16:31] <costyn> g8khw-iPhone: if the camera is pointed the right way, you should have sunset pics
[16:31] <TimZaman> christ now THATS a good lock
[16:31] <daveake> Are we taking bets on it floating when the sun goes down? ;)
[16:32] <g8khw-iPhone> D
[16:32] <Upu> 423.7km here and recieving fine
[16:32] <g8khw-iPhone> Hope it wont float - tis a totex 3000
[16:32] <TimZaman> is it me or is this the slowest balloon ever
[16:32] <TimZaman> what does the predictor sya
[16:33] <Dan-K2VOL> it is pretty slow, but remarkably straight
[16:33] <g8khw-iPhone> V
[16:33] <TimZaman> if thats not 25mW then i dont know what is.
[16:33] <TimZaman> or its an uber antenna
[16:33] <Upu> nah its quiet from here
[16:33] <TimZaman> ridiculously large payload though
[16:33] <g8khw-iPhone> Gosh no its an ntx2
[16:33] <Dan-K2VOL> how big?
[16:33] <g8khw-iPhone> 10mw
[16:34] <g8khw-iPhone> Just a good groundplane
[16:36] <g8khw-iPhone> Still 11db s/n on the car whip
[16:36] <Upu> TimZaman maybe its strong because its right above your head ? :)
[16:37] <TimZaman> are you calling me a belgian?
[16:37] <g8khw-iPhone> Just sitting on the cliftops at felixstowe
[16:37] <TimZaman> is there a car?
[16:37] <TimZaman> gprs/sms backup system or no?
[16:37] <g8khw-iPhone> No
[16:38] <g8khw-iPhone> Finding its going to be down to the last few sentacies recived
[16:39] <g8khw-iPhone> It willl cutdown 5 hours from lanch
[16:40] <daveake> It seems to be navigating itself towards the centre of an estuary. I don't think it likes land :p
[16:40] <TimZaman> okay then. that means "lets hope someone finds it"
[16:40] <daveake> lol
[16:40] <g8khw-iPhone> - that will be about 17:00 gmt
[16:40] <g8khw-iPhone> But may burst before then
[16:41] <daveake> 17:00 gmt?? That's 20 minutes away.
[16:42] <daveake> You mean 19:00?
[16:42] <Upu> Launch was 14:00 ish
[16:42] <g8khw-iPhone> My dl- fldigi isnt afc ing - althought it shows it on - clues ?
[16:42] <daveake> Launch was about 14:00gmt
[16:43] <g8khw-iPhone> Yes 19:00 gmt sorry
[16:43] <Upu> recieving fine from Yorkshire 432Km and growing
[16:43] <g8khw-iPhone> Whos
[16:43] <daveake> Stronger here now than it was 30mins ago
[16:44] <g8khw-iPhone> Going to get a new longest range copy
[16:44] <Upu> fsphil you got this yet ?
[16:44] <g8khw-iPhone> Strange its dropped here
[16:45] <daveake> Circa -1dB was -4 earlier
[16:45] <g8khw-iPhone> Bbl
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[16:45] <daveake> Height helping probablu
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[16:58] <fsphil> Upu, just got home
[16:58] <fsphil> is it still up?
[16:58] <Upu> yep
[16:58] <number10> its like the river
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[16:59] <Upu> jsut on phone afk
[16:59] <fsphil> what's the dial frequency?
[16:59] <number10> 434.0746
[16:59] <g8khw-iPhone> Is it over land yet?
[17:00] <number10> its over land but hugging the river
[17:00] <g8khw-iPhone> Drat
[17:01] <fsphil> no signal
[17:01] <daveake> 8 trackers - not bad
[17:01] <g8khw-iPhone> 80% up
[17:01] <fsphil> needs to get higher
[17:02] <daveake> fsphil my dial is on 434.075; bands at ~1100/1500
[17:02] <fsphil> it's pouring down outside, I'd have had the yagis out otherwise
[17:02] <griffonbot> Received email: Oliver de Peyer Astrobiologist "[UKHAS] Black polyethylene for solar balloons - bulk buying?"
[17:03] <fsphil> I think all this rain wont help
[17:03] <daveake> Nope.
[17:03] <daveake> My yagi is sellotaped to the window frame. Working so far :D
[17:03] <fsphil> haha
[17:03] <fsphil> that's the spirit :)
[17:03] <daveake> Might need to upgrade to duct tape before it falls, mind.
[17:05] <TimZaman> reception is fading. im callining it
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[17:07] <daveake> North of Terneuzen. Been there a few times to see one of my customers.
[17:11] <daveake> Burst?
[17:11] <daveake> Said "descending"; signal wall over the place now.
[17:12] <daveake> all
[17:13] <daveake> That's a think strip of land it needs to hit ...
[17:13] <daveake> thin
[17:15] <fsphil> ah, on the way down
[17:15] <daveake> Yep
[17:16] <daveake> Too weak here for any decodes
[17:17] <fsphil> never appeared here
[17:17] <daveake> :(
[17:17] <nosebleedKT> the salara is going to be 640e and because that place is too far i have to spend about 140e for the fuel
[17:17] <fsphil> guessing at that distance I'd need it to be about 39km or something :)
[17:17] <nosebleedKT> so 500e lef
[17:17] <nosebleedKT> so 500e left
[17:17] <nosebleedKT> and without a paper which says that im working there
[17:17] <daveake> fsphil it would need to be at 39km, or you would? ;)
[17:17] <fsphil> hmm.. there's a robin sitting on my window squeaking at me
[17:18] <daveake> in RTTY?
[17:18] <fsphil> daveake, both likely :)
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[17:18] <fsphil> we don't have amateur radio robins here :)
[17:18] <TimZaman> oh god will it land in antwerp?
[17:18] <TimZaman> seriously?
[17:18] <daveake> Might be needing a boat (again) for this one ...
[17:19] <Dutch-Mill> let's hope so....but
[17:19] <fsphil> gonna be a close call
[17:20] <TimZaman> live predictor?
[17:20] <fsphil> tracker's not in the best of health atm
[17:20] <Upu> gone quiet here can hear but back ground noise is overwhelming the signal
[17:20] <g8khw-iPhone> No
[17:21] <TimZaman> my LOS was gone as well
[17:21] <TimZaman> too eastern
[17:21] <daveake> It does seem to like that blue stuff on the ma
[17:21] <daveake> p
[17:22] <TimZaman> okay so it needs 25km for a groundlanding
[17:22] <TimZaman> its decentding at 50kmh?
[17:22] <TimZaman> decending
[17:22] <TimZaman> with what speed?
[17:22] <TimZaman> groundspeed
[17:22] <g8khw-iPhone> V
[17:23] <Dutch-Mill> i'm losing it
[17:23] <Dan-K2VOL> well if the winds are constant it should land somewhere in the region of Maastricht to Bonn
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[17:23] <g8khw-iPhone> Can someone tell me the descent speed as it passes 10000m
[17:24] <Dutch-Mill> MOLEP whats your location ?
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[17:27] <Dutch-Mill> 12800
[17:28] <Upu> I can still here it but no chance of a decode
[17:28] <daveake> Ditto. I had a wave of noise pass across the waterfall in the last few minutes, but with that out of the way the signal is still too weak.
[17:28] <Upu> Help us obi-wan-dutchmill you are our only hope
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[17:29] <g8khw-iPhone> Yeah
[17:30] <fsphil-laptop> no pressure or anything
[17:30] <Dutch-Mill> 11330 m
[17:30] <daveake> :-). "Patience, use the Force, think."
[17:30] <daveake> or "I don't mind flying, but what you're doing is suicide!"
[17:31] <Dutch-Mill> 10648 m
[17:32] <fsphil-laptop> looks like you might miss that river
[17:32] <Dutch-Mill> a geen one
[17:32] <daveake> It's past that blue stuff :)
[17:32] <fsphil-laptop> and I think it'll miss antwerp
[17:32] <Dutch-Mill> olee Belgum
[17:33] <g8khw-iPhone> Whats tje desentrate on the tracker
[17:33] <Dutch-Mill> 9830 m
[17:33] <fsphil-laptop> 9830m
[17:33] <MrCraig> Miss Antwerp @ 10k down 8.4 - possible.
[17:33] <daveake> -8.2
[17:33] <fsphil-laptop> G8DSU, -8.2m/s
[17:33] <fsphil-laptop> er
[17:33] <fsphil-laptop> g8khw-iPhone ^^
[17:33] <fsphil-laptop> amateur callsigns and tab completion don't mix
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[17:33] <g8khw-iPhone> Ok landonh sppeed will be half of yhat
[17:34] <daveake> I think I might google "Miss Antwerp" :p
[17:34] <fsphil-laptop> really? why? *googles* ooooh
[17:34] <daveake> lol
[17:34] <Dutch-Mill> 9066m
[17:34] <MrCraig> keep moderate safe search on!!
[17:35] <daveake> Signal completely gone here now
[17:35] <fsphil-laptop> you'd think tracking would be easier in .nl :)
[17:36] <fsphil-laptop> nice bunch of strings now Dutch-Mill
[17:37] <g8khw-iPhone> 7500
[17:37] <Dutch-Mill> narrowing the shift helps (365)
[17:37] <fsphil-laptop> 7810m on the last one
[17:38] <Zuph> $5 says it gets stuck in a tree.
[17:38] <fsphil-laptop> hab'ing has spoiled me, I don't think of 7km as all that high up :)
[17:38] <fsphil-laptop> 7434m
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[17:39] <fsphil-laptop> 7040m
[17:40] <daveake> Yeah, everytime I fly somewhere, I look out the window at 30,000+ feet and think "Is that it?"
[17:42] <Dutch-Mill> 6207
[17:43] <Dutch-Mill> 5866 loosing it
[17:43] <daveake> So will someone be setting out to find this?
[17:44] <g8khw-iPhone> 5333
[17:44] <fsphil-laptop> not me
[17:45] <daveake> :D
[17:45] <fsphil-laptop> I can't swim
[17:45] <g8khw-iPhone> There is money on offer
[17:45] <MrCraig> is it more than a eurostar ticket?
[17:45] <Dutch-Mill> signal gone now ;-(
[17:45] <fsphil-laptop> it's up to the predictor now, or someone local finding it
[17:46] <Dutch-Mill> last position 51.23028 4.64586
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[17:47] <Dutch-Mill> well done ...
[17:47] <g8khw-iPhone> 4483
[17:51] <g8khw-iPhone> Cant decode but still on w f
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[17:55] <g8khw-iPhone> Gone from wfall for me
[17:55] <g8khw-iPhone> Heading home to work out ehere it lsnded
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[17:58] <griffonbot> Received email: Dan Bowen "Re: [UKHAS] Black polyethylene for solar balloons - bulk buying?"
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[18:03] <Dutch-Mill> Send a e-mail to te local HAM-club (ON4HTR) http://www.on4hrt.org
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[18:06] <RocketBoy> are there any working predictors at the mo
[18:08] <griffonbot> Received email: Oliver de Peyer Astrobiologist "[UKHAS] Re: Black polyethylene for solar balloons - bulk buying?"
[18:08] <Upu> yep
[18:08] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/
[18:08] <RocketBoy> ta
[18:08] <daveake> Yes, I used that just now, and it's fine
[18:09] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=d00abcd96a7e289b8d64f5f98854c8d7ce09be2e
[18:09] <Upu> afk
[18:11] <RocketBoy> humm its not working for me - can someone run 51.18767,4.77533, 3797m with a 4.1m/sec descent rate
[18:11] <fsphil-laptop> trees, water and fields
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[18:12] <fsphil-laptop> RocketBoy, http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=72b45bfe9412a1291eb3dc3f68ae24dead9b8a88
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[18:21] <RocketBoy> fsphill - thanks - predictor working for me now - thats what i make it too
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[18:23] <WillDuckworth> how's xaben?
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[18:24] <jgrahamc> Missed the descent. Has contact been lost?
[18:25] <Dan-K2VOL> aparently
[18:30] <Dutch-Mill> RocketBoy YgotMail
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[19:00] <Upu> so any news on Xaben ?
[19:01] <Upu> local news paper time ? http://www.gva.be/
[19:08] <Laurenceb_> its quite understandable
[19:08] <Laurenceb_> yet i dont even know what language that is
[19:08] <Laurenceb_> french+german+english XD
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[19:12] <Zuph> Crazy moon language.
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[19:21] <W0OTM> Howdy
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[19:24] <TimZaman> buon giorno
[19:26] <TimZaman> RocketBoy: trainticket would total return would be E50 i guess
[19:27] <RocketBoy> thats no problem tim
[19:27] <daveake> Half the price of a Suffolk boat :)
[19:28] <RocketBoy> I think the oneway is like 100 euro for my van
[19:28] <TimZaman> Still it'd take almost 3 hours getting there one waya
[19:28] <TimZaman> well that's not that bad, right?
[19:28] <TimZaman> Especially considering the hefty percentage i would ask
[19:28] <RocketBoy> :-)
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[19:30] <Josh____> Hi Guys :D
[19:30] <Josh____> here's an update:
[19:30] <Josh____> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8820980/How-my-space-balloon-went-to-the-stratosphere-and-back.html
[19:30] <TimZaman> RocketBoy: Why not go there *now* ? =)
[19:30] <Upu> hey Josh nice one :)
[19:31] <RocketBoy> TimZaman: its a heck of a crossing and back
[19:31] <Upu> And here : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/8820470/Weather-balloon-captures-panoramic-view-of-Earth.html
[19:32] <TimZaman> waaaaaaaaaaaaaauw Josh those are nice images
[19:32] <TimZaman> You did a splashdown retrieval?
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[19:33] <Upu> Tim it was my payload that took the pictures of his payload :)
[19:33] <Upu> Check my panormas http://ava.upuaut.net/
[19:34] <jonsowman> that's excellent Upu
[19:34] <jonsowman> :D
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[19:34] <TimZaman> huh where there two payloads?
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[19:34] <Upu> yeah TMSB was attached under mine
[19:35] <Upu> https://picasaweb.google.com/118244444241111963790/201110AvaLaunch
[19:35] <TimZaman> sweet
[19:35] <daveake> Fortunately :) :p
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[19:35] <Upu> yeah :)
[19:35] <Upu> check the splash down video
[19:35] <Upu> video was still running
[19:35] <TimZaman> nice audi
[19:35] <Upu> lol thx
[19:35] <TimZaman> yours?
[19:35] <Upu> yeah
[19:36] <TimZaman> cheers
[19:36] <TimZaman> waaauw those water pictures are excellet
[19:36] <TimZaman> very very cool
[19:36] <TimZaman> Though still, i was first with splashdown recovery.
[19:36] <Upu> yeah you win
[19:36] <TimZaman> GEeeez nice panos
[19:37] <daveake> Bigger boat too, Tim
[19:37] <TimZaman> ehhh
[19:37] <TimZaman> is that the channel??
[19:37] <Upu> yes that is the channel
[19:37] <TimZaman> daveake: dont think so
[19:37] <daveake> I mean yours was bigger
[19:37] <TimZaman> Wwwwooooooww man those pictures haha
[19:38] <TimZaman> you had soo much luck with the weather
[19:38] <Upu> we had so much luck full stop.
[19:38] <daveake> :)
[19:38] Action: Upu pats Josh____
[19:39] <TimZaman> HAHAHa what blue camers is that on the tripod
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[19:39] <TimZaman> I hope that's your moms
[19:39] <TimZaman> wow man nicely organized payload that pink one
[19:39] <Upu> Ava
[19:40] <Upu> shame it didn't work right
[19:40] <Josh____> got Sorry guys, held up by phone call
[19:41] <Josh____> SO glad i got uk has mentioned in there!
[19:41] <Upu> TimZaman http://ava.upuaut.net/files/damaged_ava.jpg
[19:41] <Josh____> i've been shouting out your names everywhere and finally got through to one of them!
[19:41] <Upu> I seem to have my name on the telegraph.co.uk :)
[19:41] <Josh____> check out the telegraph paper tomorrow....
[19:41] <Josh____> :D
[19:41] <Upu> oh boy
[19:43] <TimZaman> Upu: thats no surprise
[19:43] <TimZaman> i am the GPS debugging *master*
[19:43] <TimZaman> they gave me so much crap its unbelievable
[19:43] <costyn> I'm still fighting with my Stalker v328 and GPS Bee
[19:43] <TimZaman> except for seeedstudio's GPSBEE, that's excellent
[19:44] <TimZaman> costyn: make sure you are not using softwareserial
[19:44] <costyn> TimZaman: what should I use? Which pins on the arduino are tx/rx?
[19:44] <TimZaman> costyn: checkout my stalkers code on my website
[19:44] <costyn> hmm
[19:44] <TimZaman> well, since you have the stalker, just stick the gpsbee straight on the thing
[19:44] <costyn> I think I already looked at that :)
[19:44] <TimZaman> that's already well connected.
[19:44] <TimZaman> also, power is very important
[19:45] <costyn> TimZaman: how do you program it? I can't program the board if the GSP BEe is in it's soccket, is that right?
[19:45] <TimZaman> gpsbee is hungry for power, and DOES NOT WORK when you power it normally
[19:45] <TimZaman> you HAVE to attach the battery for it to get enough juice
[19:45] <TimZaman> costyn: partly true.
[19:45] <TimZaman> there is a trick
[19:45] <TimZaman> you have to keep the device on..
[19:45] <TimZaman> then.. you turn of "NMEA reporting"
[19:45] <costyn> I see
[19:45] <TimZaman> fairly easy, its on the ukhas site as well
[19:45] <TimZaman> that means.. that it doesnt say anything at all
[19:46] <TimZaman> untill you ask it to
[19:46] <TimZaman> Then there is no interference
[19:46] <costyn> ok... so then you can program the atmel
[19:46] <TimZaman> so: (1) attach a battery to the stalker to make sure you have enough power.. (2) turn off nmea reporting
[19:46] <TimZaman> you program it with a FTDI breakout board of any kind
[19:47] <TimZaman> might be your own, might be sparkfun's FTDI breakout, might be the "uartsbee" from seeed..
[19:47] <costyn> i have a ftdi basic
[19:47] <TimZaman> there you go
[19:47] <TimZaman> just attach the dtr, ground V, tx, rx, done.
[19:47] <costyn> the wiki docs for the uartsbee say it can't be used on a stalker?
[19:47] <akawaka> does anyone know if anyone has attempted HDR photography from a balloon?
[19:47] <costyn> TimZaman: yes the programming of the 328 works ok as long as the gpsbee is not connected
[19:47] <TimZaman> costyn: yes it can be, but not pin-to-pin
[19:48] <costyn> ok
[19:48] <TimZaman> akawaka: well you wont get any luck there
[19:48] <TimZaman> has to be in the same place twice, plus, you dont need it.
[19:48] <TimZaman> akawaka: more important is setting your Exposure Value just right
[19:48] <TimZaman> if you have a canon or something you have plenty dynamic range
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[19:49] <costyn> TimZaman: so USB power through the FTDI is not enough for the GPS Bee?
[19:49] <akawaka> you could use two or more cameras
[19:49] <akawaka> shooting simultaneously
[19:49] <TimZaman> akawaka: timing would be an issue still
[19:49] <TimZaman> again though, why would you.
[19:50] <akawaka> i guess thats why i'm asking
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[19:50] <akawaka> would there be an advantage
[19:50] <TimZaman> Not when using a decent camera
[19:51] <TimZaman> i mean.. this is pretty decent: http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbobel/5577940022/
[19:51] <jcoxon> evening
[19:51] <Upu> ah just the man evening
[19:51] <TimZaman> theres no real clipping on either sides, so hdr wont do anything
[19:51] <Upu> lovely colour on that Tim
[19:51] <TimZaman> does it look purple to you too?
[19:51] <Upu> no
[19:52] <TimZaman> ah. my ubuntu truly sucks at colormanagement
[19:52] <akawaka> TimZaman: what did you shoot that with?
[19:52] <akawaka> uv filter on there too?
[19:52] <TimZaman> any powershot would produce that image
[19:52] <TimZaman> no keep off the filters
[19:52] <TimZaman> nothing but trouble
[19:52] <akawaka> so just a powershot shooting in RAW mode?
[19:52] <TimZaman> jpeg.
[19:53] <TimZaman> CHDK on it, and off you go
[19:54] <akawaka> such better contract on that than what we have: https://picasaweb.google.com/101798737394795841320/BalloonOct2011#5661546132529160802
[19:54] <akawaka> though maybe thats just hazy desert air
[19:54] <costyn> TimZaman: do i need an external battery, the 5v through the FTDI is not enough for the GPS Bee?
[19:55] <TimZaman> Depends on how much juice the 5v gives
[19:55] <TimZaman> still, my advice, be sure and attach a battery
[19:56] <akawaka> s/contract/contrast/
[19:56] <costyn> TimZaman: ok thx
[19:56] <costyn> TimZaman: really helpful thanks.. I was kinda stuck :)
[19:59] <TimZaman> NP
[20:00] <TimZaman> i b gone
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[20:01] <costyn> cu
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[20:18] <Upu> ping Dan-K2VOL
[20:19] <griffonbot> Received email: Rick Hewett "[UKHAS] Re: dl-fldigi config and xml files"
[20:31] <Dan-K2VOL> hey upu
[20:31] <Upu> hi Dan
[20:31] <Upu> your video for the conference
[20:31] <Upu> gief
[20:31] <Upu> :)
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[20:32] <costyn> woa... mad props to TimZaman for helping me on my way again :)
[20:32] <Upu> just getting everything in place
[20:32] <Dan-K2VOL> heh ok, I will send you a download link tonight to it! good work
[20:32] <Upu> thanks
[20:33] <Dan-K2VOL> I'd like to publicize the stream link, if it's a viewer number limited service, I may try to re-stream via our ustream if that's ok, so we don't hammer it
[20:33] <zachjacobs> Has anyone used the copernicus GPS module from sparkfun before: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8146 ? We're planning on using this on an upcoming balloon mission but the current consumption is random. If we try to repeatedly power cycle, sometimes the current consumption is ~250mA and other times it is around ~40mA (datasheet says ~35mA).
[20:33] <jcoxon> zachjacobs, yeah it'll do that searching for a lock
[20:34] <jcoxon> it'll settle down after its got a lock
[20:35] <Upu> Dan-K2VOL just mailing the GPSL list
[20:35] <Upu> it is limited :)
[20:36] <zachjacobs> alright, i'll check into it.
[20:36] <number10> jcoxon I see you are off to boston looking for places to stay : http://www.hotelmarlowe.com/mapDirections.html
[20:37] <number10> Just over the Charles River from Boston, a trip into town is about 1mile or 5-10 minutes on the subway. It is a wallet-friendly boutique style hotel with a good restaurant and great service. Rooms from $150 or so.
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[20:37] <number10> cut and paste from chap in our boston office
[20:39] <jcoxon> thanks number10 will have a look
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[20:55] <zachjacobs> jcoxon, that doesn't seem to be the issue...does it with both lock and no lock.
[20:55] <Laurenceb_> i was just thinking, we should have printed some t-shirts for the conference
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[20:57] <jcoxon> zachjacobs, its quite an old gps module
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[21:02] <zachjacobs> so what's popular these days for balloons?
[21:03] <jcoxon> ublox based gps modules
[21:03] <jcoxon> fsa03, gpsbee
[21:03] <jcoxon> or lassen IQ
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[21:03] <zachjacobs> awesome...I'll check into them. thanks for your help
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[21:06] Action: costyn is off... nite all
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[21:11] <daveake> RocketBoy - do you know if the balloon burst or did the cutdown trigger? I saw a "descending" a couple of sentences before the signal showed it was dropping pdq
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[21:12] <RocketBoy> just checking the logs
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[21:12] <daveake> I'll upload mine if that'll help
[21:13] <RocketBoy> na - there looks enough on the tracker
[21:13] <daveake> ok
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[21:14] <fsphil-laptop> hmm.. my upload speed is faster than the download
[21:15] <daveake> Could be your ISP throttling the d/l
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[21:15] <fsphil-laptop> possibly, I'll have to ask them
[21:16] <fsphil-laptop> it's suppose to be 30mbit, measuring 4mbit
[21:16] <fsphil-laptop> upload is 7.8mbit
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[21:16] <daveake> You just lost all sympathy from me :p
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[21:16] <fsphil-laptop> muhahaha
[21:16] <daveake> 30 .... I get about 4
[21:16] <fsphil-laptop> I've yet to see 30
[21:19] Action: SpeedEvil is on 2M down, .5 up.
[21:20] <fsphil-laptop> I had that for a while
[21:20] <fsphil-laptop> actually got that speed though
[21:20] <RocketBoy> daveake: just checked the logs - nothing to suggest anything other than burst
[21:21] <daveake> ok, thanks
[21:21] <daveake> As you said, not an impressive altitude really for such a large balloon
[21:21] <RocketBoy> the timeer cutdown was set at 5 hours - no geofence - not cutdown alt
[21:22] <RocketBoy> yeah the estimator said 40km (not that i belived that)
[21:22] <daveake> :)
[21:22] <RocketBoy> it was ony a 500g payload
[21:23] <daveake> If it had been a smaller Hwoyee, the predictor would have said 32km and actual would have been 40km :p
[21:27] <RocketBoy> yeah - but it would have floated with a 3m/sec ascent rate methinks
[21:27] <daveake> Yep
[21:29] <daveake> cloud2 was about 3.5m/s and that just about floated - it had 1 minute of steady altitude but otherwise was slowly rising.
[21:29] <daveake> So my thought is that anything below 3.5m/s is a likely float
[21:30] <daveake> That's for a 1000g; I guess it varies with size
[21:30] <daveake> For Sunday's flight I'll aim at 4m/s I think
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[21:37] <RocketBoy> what size hwoyee?
[21:38] <daveake> 1600g. Payload 100g
[21:41] <fsphil-laptop> still risky
[21:42] <fsphil-laptop> but that's half the fun
[21:42] <daveake> :)
[21:42] <RocketBoy> borderline IMO - I'll be interested to see the results anyway
[21:42] <daveake> Well it'll have a timeout cutdown
[21:43] <daveake> And if it floats it gives us a chance to catch up in the chase car :D
[21:43] <fsphil-laptop> mmm cut-down
[21:44] <fsphil-laptop> they're becoming more and more tempting
[21:46] <Upu-> in fairness
[21:46] <Upu-> we wouldn't have got the shots we got from Ava without a float...
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[21:46] <daveake> I was hoping to avoid that sort of float ;)
[21:46] <fsphil-laptop> any longer a float and you'd be further off-shore though
[21:46] <fsphil-laptop> out of gsm range
[21:47] <Upu> yeah we got lucky
[21:47] <daveake> btdt
[21:48] <Upu> just not so lucky
[21:48] <Upu> it might turn up
[21:49] <daveake> Yes, it might. That'd be a red-letter day.
[21:50] <fsphil-laptop> I'm still hopeful some nice yorkshire person or persons finds a silver box with my name on it some day
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[21:56] <griffonbot> @steamfire: ^\@elakdawalla: RT @Astroguyz Wow; lots of ISS Moon transits over the next 48 hours over the British Isles: http://t.co/AO1kWPds #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/steamfire/status/123879708361371649]
[21:57] <fsphil-laptop> oooh
[21:57] <fsphil-laptop> shame nobody will see it
[21:58] <NigeyS> lol ever so the optimist phil :p
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