highaltitude.log.20111001

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[00:57] <nickolai> hello all, it's been too long!
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[04:07] <daveake> m
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[06:27] <UpuMobile> morning all
[06:28] <UpuMobile> ballook fest dag!
[06:28] <UpuMobile> balloon
[06:28] <daveake> day
[06:28] <daveake> :)
[06:28] <UpuMobile> hope you've all got your antenna up
[06:28] <daveake> Oooer
[06:28] <daveake> Will do
[06:29] <daveake> What time's kickoff?
[06:29] <UpuMobile> probably after 11
[06:29] <UpuMobile> we are meeting at 10
[06:29] <GW8RAK> Morning UpuMobile
[06:29] <UpuMobile> ah crap
[06:29] <UpuMobile> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=98f49c0e03723892e998293dee9a2cffbff876f0
[06:30] <GW8RAK> I'll have to find an excuse to delay going out in that case
[06:30] <daveake> Don't you have a boat ready then? ;)
[06:30] <UpuMobile> damn
[06:30] <UpuMobile> thats changed over night
[06:31] <daveake> Hope it changes for next weekend. Current prediction is for a landing near Reims!
[06:31] <daveake> Plenty of time for that to change though :)
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[06:42] <Darkside> do it a few more times and you can estimate pi
[06:43] <NigeyS> lol, morning dude
[06:43] <Darkside> 4:13pm here :-)
[06:43] <Darkside> also its grand final day!
[06:43] <Darkside> the biggest sporting event in australia
[06:43] <NigeyS> ooooooo
[06:43] <NigeyS> its deadline day here :(
[06:43] <Darkside> oh fun
[06:44] <NigeyS> aye, and i still have .. about 80 databases left to set up :(
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[07:44] <earthshine> morning
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[07:46] <UpuMobile> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=f397d905c87a59cf439b702b0900f81b1d00e7d8
[07:46] <UpuMobile> better if you put the right time in...
[07:48] <GW8RAK> qrz.com
[07:50] <GW8RAK> Stupid bloody computer doesn't even know which window I want it to use
[07:50] <UpuMobile> right will be back from Elsworth
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[08:12] <fsphil-laptop> morning all
[08:13] <GW8RAK> Monring Phil
[08:13] <GW8RAK> or even Morning
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[08:58] <UpuMobile> morning from elsworth
[08:58] <SpeedEvil> hey.
[08:59] <fsphil-laptop> o/
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[09:04] <futurity> Morning
[09:04] <fsphil-laptop> "I see HAB people"
[09:04] <futurity> lol
[09:04] <futurity> Hi
[09:05] <fsphil-laptop> mornin' futurity
[09:05] <futurity> managed to get out of taking my kids to Judo this morning, so just setting up HAM gear ready to track
[09:05] <fsphil-laptop> upu's live stream is online
[09:05] <fsphil-laptop> excellent
[09:05] <daveake> Linky?
[09:05] <fsphil-laptop> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/avatest2
[09:05] <daveake> tvm
[09:05] <futurity> do you have a url for the live stream?
[09:06] <fsphil-laptop> spotted upu and rocketboy so far
[09:06] <fsphil-laptop> ooh we're going for a spin
[09:06] <fsphil-laptop> this is new
[09:07] <eroomde> people i have never seen before
[09:07] <UpuMobile> it id
[09:07] <UpuMobile> is
[09:07] <UpuMobile> they are catching a ride on ava
[09:07] <eroomde> ok
[09:07] <fsphil-laptop> what a morning
[09:08] Action: fsphil-laptop looks outside his own window
[09:08] <eroomde> it's pink
[09:08] <fsphil-laptop> meh
[09:08] <daveake> I see pink
[09:08] <fsphil-laptop> yikes, there isn't even the hexadecimal values to describe that pink
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[09:09] <futurity> 3 launches today?
[09:09] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[09:09] <daveake> Yep. Simultaneous I think
[09:09] <Hiena> Pink is good, hard to see in the air, but easy to spot in the grass.
[09:10] <futurity> Simultaneous, fun. i'm reasonably close to the launch site, so i should be able to switch between the different payloads if that helps anyone
[09:10] Action: fsphil-laptop makes a mental note --- fold up table for next launch
[09:10] <futurity> tracking wise i mean
[09:10] <daveake> ditto Phil
[09:11] <eroomde> fsphil-laptop: tables are suprememly useful
[09:11] <eroomde> and picnic chairs
[09:11] <daveake> noted and noted
[09:11] <fsphil-laptop> yea! it's obvious when you see it
[09:11] <eroomde> it's difficult to type on car roofs
[09:12] <eroomde> i quite want one of those decent quality gazebos
[09:12] <eroomde> with the consetina aluminium frames
[09:12] <fsphil-laptop> create a launch hut
[09:12] <eroomde> that go up in 10 seconds and would provide a nice base
[09:12] <eroomde> especially for a more involved trip to a remote site like EARS, where you might want several hours of prep
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[09:13] <fsphil-laptop> I'm hoping for a few people at my next launch, so I'd need to bring tea or biscuits or something similar
[09:13] <daveake> We did bacon butties
[09:13] <fsphil-laptop> mmmmm
[09:13] <eroomde> daveake has nailed it
[09:14] <daveake> LOL
[09:14] <eroomde> bacon butties and amug of strong black coffee
[09:14] <fsphil-laptop> in saying that, there's a cafe 20m from the launch site
[09:14] <eroomde> at dawn on a cold but clear launch day
[09:14] <eroomde> i'm at my happiest
[09:14] <eroomde> we had a tradition of brunch launches for the first couple of years
[09:14] <eroomde> as most of the ukhas launches were at churchill on a saturday when they did brunch from 11am to 13:30
[09:15] <eroomde> it was perfect
[09:15] <fsphil-laptop> mine are all early and rushed :)
[09:15] <daveake> My last one was too early :(
[09:15] <eroomde> i am going to get one of those cheapo camping hobs
[09:15] <daveake> And we had to rush off because of the distance
[09:16] <eroomde> daveake: the farm shop in brightwell salome, by wallingford, has the best bacon i've ever had in my life
[09:16] <eroomde> ever
[09:16] <daveake> Yes, those hobs are great
[09:16] <daveake> Noted erromde :)
[09:16] <daveake> eroomde even
[09:16] <eroomde> maybe i'll bring some to your next launch :)
[09:16] <daveake> It's a date :D
[09:17] <fsphil-laptop> fancy launching here ed? :)
[09:17] <eroomde> looking to get a notam at chalgrove
[09:17] <daveake> I'm up for any localish launches
[09:17] <eroomde> fsphil-laptop: i was in ireland not so long ago to talk HAB
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[09:17] <daveake> Cambridge is a bit of a trek
[09:17] <fsphil-laptop> this is definitely not local to most of you lol
[09:17] <eroomde> daveake: yeah
[09:17] <eroomde> i mean, it's my spiritual homebase
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[09:18] <eroomde> but i live in oxford now and need somewhere local to launch
[09:18] <eroomde> talk of the devil
[09:18] <fsphil-laptop> muhaha
[09:18] <fsphil-laptop> oh, not me
[09:18] <UpuMobile> hows the show ?
[09:18] <UpuMobile> streaming ok ?
[09:18] <fsphil-laptop> getting all sorts of useful tips UpuMobile :)
[09:18] <eroomde> UpuMobile: very good yep
[09:18] <UpuMobile> cool :)
[09:18] <UpuMobile> afmk
[09:19] <fsphil-laptop> mac keyboard?
[09:19] <fsphil-laptop> noo.. that would be ikeyboard
[09:20] <fsphil-laptop> has the pink thing got it's arm attached?
[09:20] <eroomde> that'as no way to talk about Upu
[09:20] <daveake> lol
[09:20] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[09:21] <fsphil-laptop> mmm breakfast time
[09:22] <eroomde> anyone - is dl-fldigi working in osx lion yet?
[09:22] <futurity> streaming going very well
[09:23] <fsphil-laptop> still having problems with that eroomde?
[09:24] <Darkside> another reason for me not to update
[09:24] <eroomde> fsphil-laptop: not checked recently
[09:24] <eroomde> been a bit out of the ukhas loop
[09:24] <Randomskk> eroomde: afaik the issue hasn't been fixed but I think jcoxon had something working on snow leopard despite latest fltk or something
[09:25] <eroomde> ok
[09:25] <fsphil-laptop> There've been reports of a windows crash on startup, but I've not been able to reproduce it yet
[09:27] <fsphil-laptop> payload number 2
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[09:33] <G3VZV> morning all - do we have any estimated launch times - i have a horrid noise here all over 70cms so wonder if I have time to do some DFing!
[09:34] <fsphil-laptop> est. 11:00
[09:34] <fsphil-laptop> though they've not filled the balloons yet
[09:34] <fsphil-laptop> so expect extra time :)
[09:34] <G3VZV> tnxs
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[09:38] <Darkside> ISH
[09:39] <futurity> Hi James, are you up a hill with a Yagi in Kent somewhere?
[09:39] <jcoxon> i'm not
[09:40] <jcoxon> man flu has meant that i haven't left the flat
[09:41] <futurity> Take care of yourself. That man flu is deadly. I think it was the virus in film Contagion.
[09:42] <jcoxon> hehe
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[09:44] <NigeyS> nooo isnt man flu the virus in resident evil fsphil ? ;)
[09:44] <UpuMobile> just got a call about the baldersley notam
[09:44] <daveake> and.............
[09:45] <UpuMobile> no flight from there today
[09:45] <NigeyS> :o
[09:46] <futurity> NigeyS: are you saying that he's now a Zombie?
[09:46] <NigeyS> err.. would i say such a thing? :p
[09:46] <futurity> Although being a Zombie is a very good excuse to still be in bed ;)
[09:46] <NigeyS> jcoxon, love ya really .. lol
[09:49] <junderwood> running 2 instances of dl-fldigi on the same computer really doesn't work very well. One keeps crashing :(
[09:49] <fsphil> there's a fine line between a sniffely nose, and eating brains.
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[09:51] Nick change: junderwood -> junderwoodM0JCU
[09:51] <fsphil-laptop> still no balloons.. unless they're filling them behind the camera
[09:51] Nick change: junderwoodM0JCU -> junderwood_M0JCU
[09:52] <UpuMobile> balloon iis being filled for Modno
[09:52] <x-f> fsphil-laptop, you can see a balloon filling in Upu's video background
[09:52] <fsphil-laptop> ava is on the map
[09:52] <fsphil-laptop> ahh ! there it is
[09:52] <fsphil-laptop> it was lying on the gronud
[09:52] <fsphil-laptop> ground*
[09:53] <fsphil-laptop> UpuMobile, is the plan to launch them all at the same time?
[09:55] <fsphil-laptop> good size of a parachute
[09:55] <eroomde> blimy
[09:55] <eroomde> how many payloads?
[09:56] <fsphil-laptop> 3.5 I think
[09:56] <eroomde> oh ok
[09:56] <UpuMobile> yeah
[09:56] <UpuMobile> someone is hitching a ride with mine
[09:57] <fsphil-laptop> xaben, ava, mondo and some kind of camera/gsm thing
[09:57] <fsphil-laptop> anyone get that?
[09:58] <GW8RAK> Couldn't read whatever was on the pad to the camera
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[09:58] <GW8RAK> but it shows they are thinking of us.
[09:58] <eroomde> impreeively still conditions, looking at that balloon
[09:58] <UpuMobile> its lovely
[09:58] <UpuMobile> 34 in the sun...
[09:58] <eroomde> wow
[09:59] <UpuMobile> 37 according to the external tempsensor on Ava
[09:59] <GW8RAK> Not quite that warm here today. But off to Cheshire to follow the sun later :)
[09:59] <nosebleedKT> hi all
[09:59] <gb73d> 7169 L Rockall dxpedition coordinations
[10:01] <GW8RAK> Is audio possible with ustream?
[10:01] <NigeyS> open $dbfile, ">>", "$1_dump.sql" or die "Could not create file!";
[10:01] <NigeyS> ach wrong box, sorry
[10:02] <Darkside> oh the camera is on top of a car
[10:02] <Darkside> :P
[10:03] <gb73d> http://www.rockall.be
[10:03] <NigeyS> whats the link Darkside ?
[10:04] <junderwood_M0JCU> According to the tracker, 2E0UPU/M is in the lake district
[10:04] <GW8RAK> gb73d stand by for a pile up if they get on the air.
[10:04] <gb73d> yes mega mega pileup
[10:05] <daveake> Going to ThreeHAB
[10:05] <GW8RAK> Would be fun to listen in. Don't think I'd make contact
[10:06] <Darkside> NigeyS: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/avatest2
[10:07] <NigeyS> cheers Darkside
[10:09] <fsphil-laptop> "Flickr is having a massage." oook
[10:10] <UpuMobile> how many viewers out of intersgt
[10:10] <NigeyS> 21
[10:10] <UpuMobile> nice
[10:11] <fsphil-laptop> prime time
[10:12] <eroomde> balloon inflation before all payloads done?
[10:12] <eroomde> somone is tempting Mr Murphy
[10:13] <fsphil-laptop> he's a sneaky fella, could be right in those trees there
[10:13] <eroomde> just whispering into the ear of a gps
[10:13] <eroomde> 'you don't really need to keep a lock, you know...'
[10:16] <fsphil-laptop> ustream is threatening me with ads
[10:17] <Darkside> yeah i'd had a few
[10:19] <daveake> ditto
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[10:21] <UpuMobile> ok will start injflating in a few mins
[10:21] <fsphil-laptop> sweet
[10:22] Action: jcoxon is testing his pico payload again
[10:22] <jcoxon> with a new lipo
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[10:25] <jcoxon> this is a bit like a super launch
[10:25] <jcoxon> the weather looks perfect
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[10:27] <fsphil-laptop> *envy* :)
[10:28] <jcoxon> what are the chances of a 1st Oct launch with weather like this
[10:29] <fsphil-laptop> slim
[10:29] <fsphil-laptop> I *was* hoping for a summer launch
[10:29] Action: fsphil-laptop waves fist at DM
[10:33] <daveake> Looking at the predictions for next weekend, I'd be happy with a non-international launch :p
[10:33] <fsphil-laptop> but those are the fun ones ;)
[10:33] <daveake> I am tempted :D
[10:33] <jcoxon> fsphil-laptop, i agree
[10:33] <daveake> Reims was the last prediction
[10:34] <daveake> Maybe a landing on the old F1 racetrack!
[10:34] <fsphil-laptop> I've waited to long to launch this I'm liable to repeat hadie:2 and launch regardless of the winds
[10:35] <futurity> Ok, FT-790R powered up at last
[10:35] <futurity> any test transmutations going on right now i can try and pick up?
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[10:36] <fsphil-laptop> if you're close enough you might hear them
[10:36] <fsphil-laptop> both mondo and ava are active
[10:37] <futurity> fsphil-laptop: do you have the frequencies
[10:37] <fsphil-laptop> AVA on 434.075 Bello Mondo-5 on 434.525 XABEN on 434.650
[10:37] <fsphil-laptop> (from steve's email)
[10:37] <UpuMobile> bello launchingb
[10:38] <futurity> got something on 434.072
[10:38] <Darkside> tat she goes
[10:38] <Darkside> thar
[10:38] <fsphil-laptop> haha
[10:38] <fsphil-laptop> what a sky
[10:40] <fsphil-laptop> right, doggie walk
[10:40] <futurity> Bello on 434.5394
[10:41] <G3VZV> thats not 50 baud
[10:43] <G3VZV> oioops yes it is but the shift is nearer to 350jz
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[10:50] <SamSilver_> light blue T-shirt = Upu
[10:50] <SamSilver_> sunglasses = rocketboy = steve
[10:51] <Darkside> guy with macbook?
[10:51] <daveake_> Upu really should make an effort and get a pink shirt
[10:51] <Darkside> man, at the next launch we should have a text to speech thing going
[10:51] <Darkside> so we can hear what you guys say
[10:53] <futurity> ok got laptop up and running with Dl-Fldigi 3.20.29. is this too old to be used?
[10:54] <SamSilver_> latex in the sun has a lovely glow
[10:54] <Darkside> futurity: that'll work fine
[10:54] <futurity> thanks
[10:54] <futurity> normal or HAB mode? I seem to have two programs installed you see
[10:54] <Darkside> ham b ote
[10:54] <futurity> i guess HAB
[10:54] <Darkside> hab mode*
[10:55] <futurity> Darkside: thanks
[10:57] <futurity> for Bello Mondo-5, do i select MONDO from the drop down list?
[10:58] <Darkside> yes
[10:59] <UpuMobile> about 20 min
[10:59] <UpuMobile> waiting on steve to fil
[10:59] <Darkside> is he behing the camera?
[10:59] <Darkside> behind*
[11:02] <Darkside> nope nvm :P
[11:02] <Darkside> i see him
[11:02] <futurity> hmmm i had one successful line decoded then MONDO started outputting crazy characters
[11:08] <GW8RAK> Have you got a frequency for Mondo?
[11:08] <futurity> 434.539
[11:09] <futurity> strong signal buy my dl-fldigi is making no sense of it :(
[11:09] <GW8RAK> That explains why I can't hear
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[11:10] <GW8RAK> Shift is about 350Hz and starting to get data, but some QRM
[11:10] <daveake_> Ta. Gottim
[11:11] <jcoxon> guess i better do some tracking
[11:11] <GW8RAK> So a lot higher in frequency and the shift is off
[11:11] <jcoxon> we are going to need more trakcers
[11:11] <jcoxon> trackers*
[11:11] <daveake_> I was listening around the published freq but naff all
[11:11] <futurity> Can someone please check where i'm going wrong: I've refreshed payload data, selected MONDO, then click auto configure?
[11:12] <daveake_> Yes, but then you need to change the freq shift to about 310
[11:12] <futurity> i see, how do i do change the fry shift?
[11:12] <UpuMobile> battery about to go in netbook
[11:12] <daveake_> Click on RTTY box bottom-left
[11:12] <UpuMobile> invertor not working
[11:13] <GW8RAK> Op Mode, RTTY, Custom, then select custom shift
[11:13] <daveake_> then choose custom
[11:13] <GW8RAK> curenlty on 330Hz
[11:14] <futurity> daveake_: thanks, back in business :)
[11:14] <futurity> ]
[11:14] <GW8RAK> The preamp gets a decode everytime
[11:14] <GW8RAK> Just moving the S meter without and S6 with :)
[11:15] <futurity> is there a version of dl-fldigi that passes the audio through so that i can monitor the audio?
[11:15] <jcoxon> futurity, thats something seperate
[11:15] <jcoxon> depends on your IS
[11:15] <daveake_> That's up to the audio card setup
[11:15] <jcoxon> OS*
[11:16] <futurity> oh i see
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[11:16] <futurity> didn't think of that
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[11:16] <G3VZV> ok three stations now tracking here - admittedly with one using a 144MHz antenna:)
[11:16] <UpuMobile> stream still on ?
[11:17] <G3VZV> yup
[11:17] <UpuMobile> ta kicked inverotor into life
[11:18] <Darkside> hmm
[11:18] <Darkside> it appears to have stopped here
[11:19] <UpuMobile> should be back now
[11:19] <G3VZV> yes now black screen
[11:20] <G3VZV> tis now back
[11:20] <Rob__> Good stream here - though ads annoying!
[11:20] <UpuMobile> cool
[11:20] <UpuMobile> Steves FTU just blew ...
[11:20] Nick change: Rob__ -> G8DSU
[11:21] <Darkside> FTU?
[11:21] <UpuMobile> pyro
[11:21] <Darkside> eek
[11:22] <Darkside> nobody hurt?
[11:22] <jcoxon> flight termination unit?
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[11:22] <UpuMobile> rgr
[11:22] <UpuMobile> no all fine
[11:25] <daveake_> Good.
[11:25] <Darkside> your video is still down
[11:26] <Darkside> or at least, it's crapped out for me
[11:27] <jcoxon> latest freq?
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[11:27] <fsphil-laptop> ooh, drama
[11:28] <UpuMobile> ok Steve about to launch
[11:28] <fsphil-laptop> still just mondo in the air?
[11:28] <daveake_> I'm set to 434.538 and it's at 2kHz
[11:28] <UpuMobile> video working ?
[11:28] <daveake_> yes and yes
[11:28] <G3VZV> video fine - i can see two missions waiting to go
[11:28] <UpuMobile> thx
[11:29] <Darkside> cooooool
[11:29] <Darkside> waaaaah
[11:30] <daveake_> Weeeeeeeeeee
[11:30] <Darkside> focus is out
[11:30] <Darkside> nvm
[11:30] <Darkside> just came back in
[11:30] <daveake_> Yes, did that earlier. Slow to latch on
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[11:32] <Darkside> woot, xaben up
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[11:32] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ava up?
[11:33] <fsphil_2I0VIM> no
[11:33] <fsphil_2I0VIM> read that wrong
[11:33] <futurity> so what balloon should i be monitoring right now? MONDO still?
[11:33] <jcoxon> need to split the trackers for each payload
[11:34] <jcoxon> futurity, i suggest you track XABEN
[11:34] <jcoxon> as you are close
[11:34] <jcoxon> as Mondo is high enough the rest of us can track it
[11:34] <G3VZV> xaben shift 470Hz
[11:34] <futurity> ok switch over to that
[11:35] <junderwood_M0JCU> I have Mondo & Xaben. No more radios left for Ava :(
[11:36] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I've the radios but not close enough to be useful
[11:36] <jcoxon> i'm getting a hint of mondo from home
[11:36] <jcoxon> but my antenna setup is terrible
[11:36] <daveake_> Later you'll be getting a hint of pink
[11:37] <fsphil_2I0VIM> weird seeing so many circles on the map!
[11:37] <daveake_> I just have a yagi jammed in the window
[11:37] <fsphil_2I0VIM> daveake_, I'll probably see it from here
[11:38] <fsphil_2I0VIM> what's mondo's dial freq.? I should be hearing it now
[11:38] <futurity> Decoding XABEN fine now
[11:38] <futurity> let me know when you need me to switch to AVA
[11:38] <G3VZV> mondo 434.540.25 here
[11:39] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I have it
[11:39] <futurity> XABEN 434.649 here
[11:39] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 350hz shift
[11:39] <daveake_> Just hear XABEN now
[11:40] <daveake_> Cool, now deocing
[11:41] <fsphil_2I0VIM> correction, shift is 390hz for mondo
[11:42] <G3VZV> mondo shift now increased to 425hz
[11:43] <junderwood_M0JCU> looks like Ava's going
[11:43] <Darkside> woooo ava launching soon
[11:44] <Darkside> thats a big parachute
[11:44] <Darkside> how big is the payload?
[11:44] <junderwood_M0JCU> How pink is the payload!
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[11:45] <G3VZV> ava away
[11:46] <Darkside> spacenearus is lagging again :-)
[11:46] <Darkside> slightly
[11:46] <fsphil_2I0VIM> don't blame it lol
[11:47] <fsphil_2I0VIM> at least it's not 3x 300 baud ;)
[11:47] <G3VZV> AVA 434.071 other parameters as stated
[11:47] <fsphil_2I0VIM> mondo's shift seems to be all over the place
[11:48] <G3VZV> agreed
[11:48] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 320hz atm
[11:48] <fsphil_2I0VIM> getting some text
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[11:50] <jcoxon> bbl
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[11:50] <futurity> AVA 434.071
[11:51] <fsphil_2I0VIM> running two dl-fldigi's crashed my machine .. oops
[11:51] <UpuMobile> anyone hear ava ?
[11:51] <junderwood_M0JCU> yes
[11:51] <junderwood_M0JCU> 434070
[11:52] <UpuMobile> k
[11:52] <junderwood_M0JCU> It says it's in ground mode
[11:52] <G3VZV> xaben shift now 470hz ish
[11:53] <Darkside> interesting, its in ground mode
[11:53] <Darkside> UpuMobile: what happens when the payload is in ground mode?
[11:53] <Darkside> ahh nvm, back in normal mode
[11:54] <junderwood_M0JCU> G3VZV. 3 radios?!?
[11:54] <gb73d> they have landed on Rockall setting up, suppport vessel updates on 7169 L
[11:54] <G3VZV> yup- its somewhat busy in this shack right now
[11:54] <x-f> stress test
[11:55] Action: fsphil_2I0VIM failed the stress test
[11:55] <fsphil_2I0VIM> mondo signal weakened suddenly
[11:55] <daveake_> AVA altitude plot is a bit strange
[11:55] <Darkside> its dropping into ground mode
[11:55] <G3VZV> agreed re mondo
[11:55] <Darkside> and doing weird thigns
[11:56] <fsphil_2I0VIM> just a bit daveake_
[11:56] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I've almost totally lost mondo
[11:57] <daveake_> Having a go at AVA now
[11:57] <junderwood_M0JCU> Mondo is unchanged here but I can hardly see the signal on the waterwall.Very faint.
[11:57] <junderwood_M0JCU> If I increase the gain on the FCD, I just pick up more QRM
[11:57] <fsphil_2I0VIM> yea
[11:58] <fsphil_2I0VIM> very slightly stronger now
[11:58] <junderwood_M0JCU> decoding fine, though
[11:58] <fsphil_2I0VIM> and gone again
[11:58] <G3VZV> mondo shift increasing again now 370ish
[11:59] <futurity> Been tracking AVA for quite a while now. let me know if you need me to switch to track anything else
[11:59] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I've never seen the shift change as much before
[11:59] <daveake_> AVA is sending out some zero-filled GPS co-ords, in amongst the real ones
[12:00] <fsphil_2I0VIM> is the position updating ok?
[12:00] <daveake_> OK, when it does that, the alt is wrong also.
[12:00] <junderwood_M0JCU> the altitudes look a bit suspect as well
[12:00] <daveake_> It was stuck at 1396m for about 4 sentences, all with zero lat/long. Then when the lat/long kicked in, the alt changed too
[12:01] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ah, mondo is back with a vengeance on my waterfall
[12:01] <daveake_> Haven't had a full sentence here yet but it's close
[12:01] <x-f> AVA has three sats, that could affect altitude readings
[12:01] <daveake_> Yep
[12:02] <junderwood_M0JCU> 3 isn't good for airborne
[12:02] <daveake_> Time is incrementing, so that makes sense
[12:02] <daveake_> Example (1st full decode here): $$AVA,644,12:01:50,0.000000,0.000000,2680,0,38,20,0,D*5C04
[12:02] <junderwood_M0JCU> alternating between 3 sats and 0
[12:03] <ingersol> great signal up here in Montrose ...decoding but offline
[12:03] <fsphil_2I0VIM> haha
[12:03] <fsphil_2I0VIM> just discovered a bug with mondo
[12:03] <fsphil_2I0VIM> they've a gap between some of the telemetry items
[12:03] <SpeedEvil> ingersol: Oooh - montrose. Even more northerly than me.
[12:03] <fsphil_2I0VIM> i've programmed my dl-fldigi to fill in the gaps
[12:03] <daveake_> I heard that. Thought it was strange. Still decoded ok
[12:04] <daveake_> Nice to see 3 balloon chasing each other on the map :)
[12:04] <daveake_> s
[12:04] <junderwood_M0JCU> 5 sats for Ava
[12:04] <Rob_M0DTS> $$AVA,655,12:04:31,52.304809,-0.058398,2679,5,37,16,0,D*2E0E not bad for only 2.6km up ;-)
[12:05] <fsphil_2I0VIM> removed mod
[12:05] <fsphil_2I0VIM> you with your, antennas :p
[12:05] <Rob_M0DTS> ha there is some troposheric enhancement today though on 70cm.
[12:05] <junderwood_M0JCU> I'm not sure I believe the altitude
[12:05] <G8DSU> I've noticed that most of my "nearly but not quite" MONDO decodes are associated with the short gap after the altitude field.
[12:05] <fsphil_2I0VIM> G8DSU, yea there's a couple of them
[12:06] <daveake_> 3 ISTR
[12:06] <G8DSU> I tend to loose the first character after the pause...
[12:06] <fsphil_2I0VIM> there's one before the temperature too
[12:06] <daveake_> AVA lost GPS again
[12:06] <fsphil_2I0VIM> and one before the time field
[12:06] <fsphil_2I0VIM> signal weakening again
[12:07] <Rob_M0DTS> yes ava altitude does not look correct! stuck at 2680m...
[12:07] <daveake_> Says 15m at the mo
[12:07] <Rob_M0DTS> $$AVA,667,12:07:12,0.000000,0.000000,15,0,35,15,1,G*CDA9
[12:07] <Darkside> oh dear
[12:07] <daveake_> Had 3 strings with that
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[12:08] <Darkside> this is why my payloads don't do anything special..
[12:08] <njumber10> \nick number10
[12:08] <Darkside> they just blat out gps data
[12:08] Nick change: njumber10 -> number10
[12:08] <daveake_> In this case I suspect the GPS is the issue
[12:08] <Rob_M0DTS> $dAV,v71,12:08:23,52.3v140,-0.02163,3398,0,35,14,47,A*92D1
[12:08] <fsphil_2I0VIM> yea, can you imagine some people even send pictures
[12:08] <daveake_> Because of the lowly number of sats
[12:08] <daveake_> LOL
[12:09] <fsphil_2I0VIM> (66.6% success rate ;-)
[12:09] <Rob_M0DTS> pictures are good..!
[12:09] <daveake_> Darkside - even blating out GPS can go embarassingly wrong :p
[12:09] <fsphil_2I0VIM> $$MOJDO
[12:09] <fsphil_2I0VIM> hai!
[12:10] <daveake_> You've got you MOJDO
[12:10] <daveake_> your
[12:10] Nick change: daveake_ -> daveake
[12:10] <fsphil_2I0VIM> not sure I'm going to get any strings from mond
[12:10] <fsphil_2I0VIM> +o
[12:10] <fsphil_2I0VIM> there's always one character wrong somewhere
[12:11] <daveake> Think I'll switch over to MONDO as it'll be the first to burst
[12:11] <daveake> What freq did it end up at?
[12:11] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 434.539 atm
[12:11] <daveake> tvm
[12:11] <fsphil_2I0VIM> though nearing the top of that
[12:11] <futurity> what's the shift of MONDO right now
[12:11] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ~340hz
[12:11] <futurity> does the shift control the spacing of the red lines?
[12:12] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 360hz even
[12:12] <fsphil_2I0VIM> yea
[12:12] <daveake> yes
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[12:12] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 390hz now
[12:12] <Rob_M0DTS> MONDO has odd buzz to the transmission too so maybe causing poor decode..
[12:12] <fsphil_2I0VIM> this shift is mad
[12:12] <daveake> Wow Mondo is coming and going a lot, as well as waving around in the 'fall
[12:12] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 400hz now
[12:13] <fsphil_2I0VIM> those gaps are getting me every time
[12:14] <fsphil_2I0VIM> interrupt driven rtty ftw :)
[12:14] <daveake> Yep
[12:14] <UpuMobile> hi, in car, ava having problems with gps?
[12:14] <fsphil_2I0VIM> shift is about 420hz for mondo
[12:15] <fsphil_2I0VIM> seems to be UpuMobile
[12:15] <daveake> Yep. Seems to swap between 3 sats and none. None gives 0/0 long/lat and bad alt too
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[12:15] <junderwood_M0JCU> 3 just gives bad alt
[12:15] <UpuMobile> ok doesnt seem to have enough satellites, has backup tracker on it thanks
[12:16] <fsphil_2I0VIM> mondo fading again
[12:16] <fsphil_2I0VIM> xaben should be coming into range here soon
[12:16] <junderwood_M0JCU> UpuMobile, what GPS unit are you using?
[12:16] <fsphil_2I0VIM> what's its dial freq.?
[12:17] <futurity> still decoding MONDO this end
[12:17] <G3VZV> mondon shift currently >440hz
[12:18] <fsphil_2I0VIM> no sign of xaben here yet
[12:19] <ingersol> decoding xaben up here in montrose...s5 signal
[12:19] <fsphil_2I0VIM> excellent
[12:19] <daveake> Here the cambs ones normally kick in at 3-4km up
[12:19] <fsphil_2I0VIM> what dial freq. ingersol ?
[12:20] <Rob_M0DTS> 434.072
[12:20] <Rob_M0DTS> oops wrong one
[12:20] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I won't hear ava for a while
[12:20] <Rob_M0DTS> 434.651
[12:20] <ingersol> 434.6526 CW mode
[12:21] <daveake> AVA says it's descending, which no doubt is due to the GPS issues
[12:21] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ah, I can just about see it
[12:22] <fsphil_2I0VIM> can see the pause between strings
[12:22] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ingersol, GM4JTJ?
[12:28] <UpuMobile> do you think a gsm tracker, 3 or 4 metres from gps antenna interfere with signal?
[12:28] <daveake> I had one in the same box and it didn't
[12:29] <ingersol> fsphil yes thats me but by software is not running and i forgot the minus sign!!!
[12:29] <fsphil_2I0VIM> lol
[12:29] <Darkside> UpuMobile: 3-4m away should be ok
[12:30] <Darkside> depends on the power i guess, but the filter on the GPS unit should get rid of it anyway
[12:30] <Laurenceb_> theres someone in the north sea?!
[12:30] <ingersol> its working fine on the shack computer (no internet) but fldigi can't see my sound card on the pc for some reason
[12:30] <daveake> Tracker or payload, he asked hopefully ... ;)
[12:31] <fsphil_2I0VIM> both lol
[12:31] <fsphil_2I0VIM> that's odd ingersol
[12:31] <fsphil_2I0VIM> windows?
[12:31] <ingersol> i suspect its the combination of hi technology versus low intelligence at this end
[12:32] <daveake> Does anyone else think the Mondo waterfall is a bit "wideband"?
[12:32] <fsphil_2I0VIM> xaben slowly getting stronger
[12:33] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I had to give up on mondo
[12:33] <daveake> Yeah, not a good hit rate here despite plenty of signal
[12:33] <number10> what frequency is monso?
[12:33] <number10> mondo
[12:33] <daveake> Dial 434.54
[12:34] <daveake> Then the lines are at +/- 1.5kHz
[12:34] <number10> ta
[12:34] <UpuMobile> chase cars not appearing on tracker, chase car fault or tracker?
[12:34] <daveake> Mine didn't either through dl-fldigi, but a kind gent sent me a program that made it work
[12:36] <daveake> Mondo up thru 34km now
[12:37] <UpuMobile> iphone wasnt working, fixed now
[12:37] <Darkside> UpuMobile: unless you're using the old method of displaying a position it won't work
[12:37] <Darkside> the dl-fldigi inbuilt stuff is broken atm
[12:37] <Darkside> unless that got fixed in the last week or two? DanielRichman ?
[12:38] <UpuMobile> thanks, heading east on a14 at the mo
[12:38] <Darkside> UpuMobile: your android app should still work
[12:39] <daveake> Mondo thru 35km now
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[12:40] <daveake> Freq a lot more stable than earlier
[12:40] <ingersol> S9 sigs from xaben and I like all those $$$$ at the start ,very helpful
[12:41] <fsphil_2I0VIM> still a bit patchy here, but getting there
[12:42] <daveake> 36km
[12:42] <daveake> Hmmm ... might make #4 alt ... :p
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[12:43] <daveake> [dave switches off receiver] LOL
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[12:44] <futurity> I'm M6FTY BTW
[12:44] <Darkside> i picked that
[12:45] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ah, got one from mondo
[12:45] <daveake> Mondo's relagated cloud2 to 5th highest <sob>
[12:45] <Darkside> haha
[12:45] <Darkside> i'll start worrying when it passes 39km :-)
[12:45] <daveake> It's doing nearly 5m/s; you don't need to worry!
[12:45] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ack, very bad noise now
[12:45] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I dunno daveake
[12:46] <daveake> 37km
[12:46] <daveake> What size balloon is it?
[12:46] Nick change: SamSilver_ -> SamSilver
[12:47] <fsphil_2I0VIM> grr, go away noise
[12:48] <fsphil_2I0VIM> it's not going away
[12:48] <fsphil_2I0VIM> that's just rude
[12:49] <Laurenceb_> heading towards the sea pretty fast :S
[12:49] <daveake> 38km
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[12:49] <Darkside> oh jeez
[12:49] <Darkside> it might beat horus 16!
[12:49] <Darkside> :P
[12:49] <daveake> :D
[12:49] <Darkside> (in altitude, not in distance)
[12:50] <SamSilver> MONDO rate of climb has slowed to 4. 4 m/s
[12:50] <fsphil_2I0VIM> lol
[12:50] <fsphil_2I0VIM> aaarh
[12:50] <fsphil_2I0VIM> noise getting worse
[12:50] <Darkside> so Horus 16 was 38807m
[12:50] <SamSilver> 4.1 latex running out of dtretch
[12:51] <SamSilver> getting plastic
[12:52] <Darkside> so it'll either float or burst
[12:52] <Darkside> :-)
[12:52] <SamSilver> 3.9m/s latex putting up a fight
[12:52] <daveake> Yep
[12:52] <futurity> after the payload collection, is anyone meeting up for a meal or drink at all?
[12:52] <Darkside> oooh 38734...
[12:52] <fsphil_2I0VIM> decode
[12:52] <Darkside> dammit
[12:52] <junderwood_M0JCU> If it doesn't burst soon it's going swimming
[12:52] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 557.2km :D
[12:53] <Darkside> 38794!
[12:53] <daveake> 38859
[12:53] <Darkside> CRAP
[12:53] <daveake> LOL
[12:53] <daveake> I was so looking forward to typing that :)
[12:53] <Laurenceb_> lmao
[12:53] <daveake> 39km
[12:54] <Darkside> oh dear
[12:54] <fsphil_2I0VIM> aarg, noise again
[12:54] Action: Darkside watches intently
[12:54] <fsphil_2I0VIM> wow
[12:54] <daveake> Are we keeping you up? ;)
[12:54] <Darkside> no
[12:54] <Darkside> its only 10:30pm
[12:54] <fsphil_2I0VIM> still going up
[12:54] <Laurenceb_> wow the horizon radius
[12:54] <Laurenceb_> you could do relay across europe
[12:55] <SamSilver> 3.0 m/s I wonder ..
[12:55] <Laurenceb_> italy to norway
[12:55] <daveake> Mondo 4 did 39482m. Not far to go
[12:55] <Darkside> burst damn you
[12:56] <Darkside> :P
[12:56] <SamSilver> lol
[12:56] <number10> higher higher
[12:56] <fsphil_2I0VIM> another decode
[12:56] <daveake> lol
[12:56] <Laurenceb_> heading to the sea
[12:56] <Laurenceb_> :S
[12:56] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 563.1km
[12:56] <daveake> :)
[12:56] <SamSilver> heading for a record
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[12:56] <number10> seem to ba able to track mondo with magmount indoors
[12:56] <Laurenceb_> and the sea
[12:57] <SamSilver> can see a bit of a bend in the graph
[12:57] <Laurenceb_> is it 300 baud?
[12:57] <daveake> 39486
[12:57] <daveake> #3
[12:57] <Darkside> jeez, Ava is still screwed
[12:57] <Laurenceb_> looks like its going to float
[12:57] <fsphil_2I0VIM> Laurenceb, 50 baud
[12:57] <Laurenceb_> ascent slowing
[12:58] <SamSilver> lucky ava
[12:58] <junderwood_M0JCU> #2, 39622
[12:58] <daveake> One to go ... :D
[12:58] <Darkside> junderwood_M0JCU: on what list?
[12:59] <junderwood_M0JCU> http://ukhas.org.uk/general:uk_records
[12:59] <junderwood_M0JCU> (out of date?)
[12:59] <Darkside> oh, uk records
[12:59] <Laurenceb_> it might float before getting much past 40km
[12:59] <SamSilver> well I am late for barbecue but this is way toooo much fun
[12:59] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I'm late for lunch!
[12:59] <daveake> :D. I put on a smoker BBQ for later
[13:00] <fsphil_2I0VIM> this is where having a good phone owuld be handy
[13:00] <fsphil_2I0VIM> could follow during lunch :)
[13:00] <daveake> :)
[13:00] <Darkside> i used my kindle :P
[13:01] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 570.2km range
[13:01] <daveake> <1m/s now
[13:01] <fsphil_2I0VIM> with a colinear
[13:01] <Rob_M0DTS> pop
[13:01] <daveake> Sound slike bursted
[13:01] <fsphil_2I0VIM> very pop
[13:01] <fsphil_2I0VIM> very impressed
[13:01] <Rob_M0DTS> 39854
[13:02] <Darkside> cmon guys, data?
[13:02] <daveake> Popped during a 39584m sentence
[13:02] <fsphil_2I0VIM> yea
[13:02] <fsphil_2I0VIM> going down
[13:02] <Darkside> i hate this 50 baud stuff
[13:02] <daveake> Darkside can breath now
[13:02] <fsphil_2I0VIM> lol
[13:02] <Darkside> takes too long to get data through
[13:02] <fsphil_2I0VIM> where's xaben? :D
[13:02] <Darkside> ahh i love those descent rates
[13:02] <Darkside> 92m/s
[13:02] <Darkside> whee
[13:03] <daveake> Can hear it spinning
[13:03] <Darkside> i bet!
[13:03] Nick change: SamSilver -> SamSIlver_
[13:03] <Darkside> fast QSB? or doppler
[13:03] <Laurenceb_> did it have a camera?
[13:04] <ingersol> i made it 39854 as well
[13:04] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I must go for lunch
[13:04] <fsphil_2I0VIM> will leave it on xaben, hopefully it stays tuned :)
[13:05] <daveake> :-). I'll switch to that when I lose Mondo at 4km or so
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[13:05] <G3VZV> hey the kindle is great displaying the tracker
[13:05] <Darkside> yup
[13:06] <Darkside> i've been using it for the last few launches :D
[13:07] <Laurenceb_> jcoxon: can you see it?
[13:07] <Darkside> lol
[13:08] <Laurenceb_> will xaben beat the record...
[13:10] <UpuMobile> well poop
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[13:11] <Darkside> UpuMobile: poop indeed
[13:12] <Darkside> something certainly broke
[13:12] <UpuMobile> antenna issues its got a backup GSM
[13:12] <daveake> What GPS?
[13:12] <Laurenceb_> xaben burst
[13:13] <UpuMobile> ISM300
[13:13] <Darkside> so it did
[13:13] <UpuMobile> only reported 3 sats but had 7 on the ground
[13:13] <daveake> Hope the backup tracker works then
[13:14] <number10> Hi UpuMobile
[13:14] <futurity> has the MONDO shift changed again
[13:14] <daveake> Yep
[13:15] <futurity> what is it now may i ask?
[13:15] <number10> about 380
[13:15] <daveake> Try 390
[13:16] <futurity> i take it that MONDO is the one to track
[13:17] <ingersol> AVA wins the strongest signal in scotland trophy!! a stonking signal
[13:17] <number10> Xaben also
[13:18] <number10> I am greedy - tracking both
[13:18] <daveake> I saw!
[13:21] <UpuMobile> guys
[13:21] <UpuMobile> can someone get last location of Xaben before burst
[13:21] <UpuMobile> and do us a predicted landing pls
[13:21] <UpuMobile> before burst pls
[13:22] <UpuMobile> anyone on it ?
[13:23] <number10> i am
[13:23] <SpeedEvil> me
[13:23] <SpeedEvil> oh
[13:23] <UpuMobile> tnx
[13:23] <SpeedEvil> him then
[13:23] <UpuMobile> wb number10 :)
[13:23] <number10> but dont know how to predict landing
[13:23] <SpeedEvil> Ok, I will
[13:23] <number10> :)
[13:23] <daveake> Nor me
[13:23] <UpuMobile> ok
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[13:23] <UpuMobile> in the predictor
[13:23] <UpuMobile> put the last coords before burst
[13:23] <SpeedEvil> Why before burst, and not at the current altitude and position?
[13:24] <UpuMobile> important as Xaben has a coding issue...
[13:24] <UpuMobile> its not transmitting its location
[13:24] <SpeedEvil> ah
[13:24] <daveake> oh
[13:24] <number10> ok I may switch antennas as better one is on Mondo
[13:24] <UpuMobile> put in last location
[13:24] <UpuMobile> burst alt
[13:24] <SpeedEvil> Umm - it is transmitting a location
[13:24] <UpuMobile> predicted burst last alt
[13:24] <UpuMobile> +1
[13:24] <daveake> It is
[13:25] <UpuMobile> ok
[13:25] <UpuMobile> sorry my misunderstanding
[13:25] <UpuMobile> in the raw data
[13:26] <UpuMobile> Steves payload transmits its own predicted landing
[13:26] <UpuMobile> at the end of the string
[13:26] <UpuMobile> just before burst
[13:26] <UpuMobile> can anyone dig that raw data line ouyt ?
[13:26] <number10> clever chap
[13:26] <daveake> I'm impressed
[13:26] <number10> I will paste it here
[13:27] <SpeedEvil> Are Oh -r ight - you mean mondo is not transmitting its location?
[13:27] <SpeedEvil> And that's the one you want the prediction for?
[13:27] <SpeedEvil> err
[13:27] <SpeedEvil> ignore me
[13:27] <daveake> :)
[13:27] <SpeedEvil> I'm terminally confused today
[13:28] <daveake> I get that. Once in a while, I don't.
[13:29] <UpuMobile> whats Xaben current decent pls ?
[13:29] <futurity> still just about got a signal
[13:29] <daveake> 9.8m/s says the map
[13:29] <futurity> for MONDO
[13:30] <UpuMobile> anyone got the raw data yet ?
[13:30] <UpuMobile> thx daveake
[13:30] <junderwood_M0JCU> $$$$$$XABEN,459,13:30:09,52.30137,0.36243,8942,-26.4,321.23,5;5;CB0;0.8*1F57
[13:30] <SpeedEvil> prediction from xaben top is http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=ae0918be5f5c98492e6930facb99739abdcdde3c
[13:31] <SpeedEvil> 3 miles west of brandon
[13:31] <SpeedEvil> ah
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[13:31] <UpuMobile> thx
[13:31] <futurity> should i still be monitoring MONDO or switch to XABEN?
[13:31] <UpuMobile> anyone still got AVA ?
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[13:32] <ingersol> still strong sigs from AVA so it must be above 14000 which is where I lose signal
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> Prediction from above xaben is about the same
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=c7eed3135a39208e76a53264c7961ad74e18712c
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[13:32] <SpeedEvil> 10 miles east of thetford
[13:34] <SpeedEvil> xaben now seems to be updating fine
[13:34] <futurity> xaben seems to have had a very consistent shift
[13:34] <daveake> Losing it here. Bit low.
[13:35] <number10> I can still hear AVA
[13:36] <daveake> Yeah, I've just switched to that
[13:36] <SpeedEvil> Latest prediction for xaben is between brandon and ely
[13:36] <SpeedEvil> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=d7beb4345777316af096276eba828ed3c295c642
[13:36] <daveake> Decoding OK; shame about the GPS
[13:37] <UpuMobile> anyone know if ava is going up or down? is anyone losing transmission?
[13:37] <number10> altitude seems constant
[13:37] <daveake> Fading in and out, but at a guess I'd say she's still going up.
[13:38] <UpuMobile> thanks!
[13:38] <daveake> lat/ling zeroes; alt 5605
[13:38] <daveake> $$AVA,1043,13:38:01,0.000000,0.000000,5605,0,-6,-9,-1,D*2E6C
[13:40] <daveake> Random thought: I wonder if anyone's ever tried to teach a parrot to whistle rtty
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[13:41] <futurity> hmm getting close to Mildenhall air base
[13:42] <SpeedEvil> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=4373c3d5667a77b1973d118f3b54a178b3a0a829 - midway between ely and thetford landing, and about a mile and a half east
[13:42] <SpeedEvil> xaben
[13:42] <SpeedEvil> Lots of fields
[13:44] <futurity> seems to be moving to the north so will just miss Mildenhall now
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[13:45] <SpeedEvil> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=4e218009049e34599e133a65c7db878210436e09 - xaben - landing just to the north of 'west suffolk golf centre'
[13:46] <ingersol> still receiving ava so it must be at a fair height if I can still hear it in Montrose
[13:46] <SpeedEvil> That's got to be >20km
[13:47] <number10> $$$$$$XABEN,509,13:46:49,52.37339,0.45298,1413,8.8,857.59,Landing*2776
[13:47] <futurity> looks like it'll land on the golf course
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> possibly
[13:48] <junderwood_M0JCU> $$$$$$XABEN,511,13:47:29,52.37424,0.45575,1182,10.1,882.84,6;5;CB0;0.9*0E8A
[13:48] <futurity> still able to decode XABEN
[13:48] <junderwood_M0JCU> My last good string
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> The predictions ahve been going long
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> And indeed - the last prediction does say it lands on the golf course
[13:48] <futurity> still getting good strings here
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> Along the road
[13:49] <SpeedEvil> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=632de412a9ee3c5e68fb11ae721e1e704dc6f843
[13:49] <futurity> signal getting noisy here now
[13:49] <SpeedEvil> Either on, or nearly on teh course
[13:49] <ingersol> my last fix on xaben was at 26,000, mondo 17,000 and ava
[13:50] <ingersol> signal strength is still well up so I ould guess 30,000 +
[13:50] <futurity> lost signal
[13:50] <SpeedEvil> There aren't that many trees
[13:50] <SpeedEvil> But tehre are a few.
[13:50] <number10> last string $$$$$$XABEN,518,13:49:48,52.37748,0.46007,311,14.5,975.40,6;5;8B0;0.9*2043
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[13:52] <SpeedEvil> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=5b31de33ddbd9d77565956b0e100795645b0af28
[13:53] <SpeedEvil> Which I make to be more or less in the clear, with maybe a teeny tree in the way
[13:55] <SpeedEvil> (teeny=3m, however many years ago the imagery was)
[13:57] <futurity> AVA shift please?
[13:57] <daveake> 300
[13:57] <number10> 310
[13:57] <G8DSU> about 290 working for me
[13:58] <daveake> Any more votes? ;)
[13:58] <G8DSU> Go for proportional representation...
[13:58] <futurity> for 305 the red lines are either side of the yellow ones :(
[13:58] <daveake> Q: To connect to a yagi, I need 75 ohms cable, correct? Managed to damage mine at the plug when the antenna fell out the window ...
[13:59] <Darkside> uhh
[13:59] <Darkside> the yagi will probably have some sort of matching on it?
[13:59] <daveake> Don't believe so. It has a little car cap to tune, and that's it
[13:59] <Darkside> and you'll want to run 50 ohm cable to it
[13:59] <gb73d> the Rockall dxpedition is settin up on the Island
[13:59] <Darkside> oh
[13:59] <Darkside> gamma match
[13:59] <ingersol> my shift is 342 with a 75Hz filter
[13:59] <gb73d> 7169 L support ship
[14:00] <Darkside> daveake: use 50 ohm coax
[14:00] <daveake> TVM
[14:00] <Darkside> gb73d: whats this?
[14:00] <Darkside> whats going on?
[14:00] <gb73d> hams landed on Rockall today
[14:00] <ingersol> rockall??
[14:00] <G3VZV> is 7169 the hf frequency?
[14:00] <futurity> hmm just getting gibberish from AVA
[14:01] <gb73d> yes for the support ship too
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[14:01] <daveake> futurity I did just now, but it's OK again
[14:01] <UpuMobile> ava going down? tnx
[14:02] <futurity> so i select AVA, click auto configure, then click RTTY bottom left
[14:02] <futurity> custom
[14:03] <ingersol> packet 1143 with a lot of spin so yes could be on its way down
[14:03] <futurity> custom shift 342
[14:03] <futurity> and still gibberish :(
[14:04] <futurity> fixed it
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[14:04] <futurity> rig volume too low
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[14:05] <futurity> decoding fine, but 0 values for co-ord
[14:07] <ingersol> losing signal quickly last decent packet was #1159, see you all next saturday...see Metro newspaper for Thursday!
[14:11] <UpuMobile> We are just at the Xaben landing trying to locate payload
[14:11] <UpuMobile> hopefully Ava is on its way down too
[14:11] <daveake> Cool
[14:12] <daveake> Somewhere ;)
[14:14] <daveake> AVA is starting to fade here, so I'm guessing it's 10km or lower
[14:14] <G8DSU> Maybe the GPS will come good when it gets lower / warms up / hits the ground. Still a good sig in Twickenham so it is still at a reasonable altitude.
[14:16] <G3VZV> ava shift now 330 ish
[14:17] <G8DSU> Yes, I also noticed shift has increased a bit
[14:19] <ingersol> correct my last ava is still a good signal with 100% decodes, must have been my neighbour's oil level indicator on 434.030ish
[14:19] <daveake> :-). We have one of those
[14:20] <futurity> there is a lot of noise on the signal this end
[14:20] <number10> yes I think it is
[14:20] <ingersol> I get s9+20 hash all over 70cms, really annoying.
[14:21] <daveake> Chasing cloud2, we got stuck in traffic near the Berkshire Show ... the waterfall was pretty much a yellow rectangle
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[14:22] <daveake> Dunno who was transmitting what, but I could barely make out the payload in the crap
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[14:23] <number10> I am still getting an AVA signal
[14:23] <number10> I am still getting a signal on ava
[14:23] <UpuMobile> still in the air then
[14:23] <number10> yep
[14:23] <daveake> Yep
[14:23] <UpuMobile> can still hear it here
[14:24] <UpuMobile> trying to locate Xaben
[14:24] <daveake> Just buying some RG58 cable and connectors etc. ... think someone has some numbers wrong here ... "Attenuation @ 400MHz 31.0dB/m"
[14:24] <daveake> Can't be that high shirley?
[14:24] <UpuMobile> looks like Xaben landed in someones back yard
[14:25] <daveake> :)
[14:25] <UpuMobile> and by back yard
[14:25] <UpuMobile> I mean field
[14:25] <daveake> Hope they're friendly :)
[14:25] <G3VZV> per 100m
[14:25] <daveake> Yeah, 100m sounds more like it!
[14:26] <daveake> Still getting AVA here, so must be 4km+
[14:26] <daveake> Sadly, still no real GPS
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[14:26] <UpuMobile> let me know when it goes
[14:27] <daveake> Will do
[14:27] <ingersol> still receiving in IO86RP so I reckon above 20K still beaming 160degrees
[14:27] <UpuMobile> eesh
[14:27] <daveake> wow
[14:27] <UpuMobile> want it down
[14:27] <daveake> :)
[14:27] <UpuMobile> bored now
[14:28] <UpuMobile> big parachute on it
[14:28] <daveake> Ah
[14:28] <daveake> Wot size chute and what payload weight?
[14:28] <ingersol> i wish it would hurry up, I want to go and play microwave contest...anyone need a contact on 5.7GHz?
[14:29] <UpuMobile> 1.6kg payload
[14:29] <UpuMobile> was a double
[14:29] <UpuMobile> and a 48" ?
[14:29] <UpuMobile> not sure Steve supplied it
[14:29] <UpuMobile> it has a commercial vehicle GSM tracker on it
[14:29] <UpuMobile> which saldy uses vodafone
[14:32] <UpuMobile> xaben recovered
[14:33] <SpeedEvil> :)
[14:33] <SpeedEvil> Was it near a tree?
[14:33] <UpuMobile> gofl course
[14:33] <UpuMobile> in a ditch
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[14:33] <futurity> great news
[14:33] <SpeedEvil> Great!
[14:33] <futurity> XABEN had a great signal
[14:34] <futurity> i'll have to find out the components used and try and build something similar
[14:39] <ingersol> AVA fading fast up here. Anybody need a pasteover of my decoded data?. Jon
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[14:40] <daveake> AVA still good here
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[14:42] <daveake> Fingers crossed for a valid GPS reading
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[14:44] <daveake> Ribs rescued from the BBQ smoker :-). Looking forward to those later!
[14:44] <daveake> Half a duck still in there for tomorrow
[14:44] <number10> nice
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[14:48] <ingersol> still decoding ava in IO86
[14:48] <cuddykid> Hi all! It's been a while since I've been on
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[14:51] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I is back, what I miss?
[14:51] <fsphil_2I0VIM> hiya cuddykid
[14:54] <daveake> Mondo hitting 39854 m
[14:54] <daveake> AVA we have no idea :p
[14:55] <daveake> UpuMobile: AVA dropping out now
[14:55] <number10> ava drifting a bit
[14:55] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ava falling?
[14:55] <G8DSU> AVA very significantly weaker. Probably my imagination but it seemed like it was tumbling...
[14:56] <fsphil_2I0VIM> what frequency?
[14:56] <daveake> Yes, my guess 3-4km
[14:56] <number10> I dont know how you tell
[14:56] <fsphil_2I0VIM> oh no chance of me to hear it
[14:56] <daveake> 434.074 on the dial
[14:56] <daveake> Nope
[14:56] <fsphil_2I0VIM> lol
[14:56] <fsphil_2I0VIM> there it is
[14:56] <daveake> number10 from here, the Cambs ones start showing data at 3-4km
[14:57] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I couldn't be receiving it
[14:57] <number10> ah, based on previous exp
[14:57] <daveake> Maybe high then and there's an issue at my end
[14:57] <fsphil_2I0VIM> 355hz shift?
[14:58] <ingersol> still an S7 signal up here .
[14:58] <fsphil_2I0VIM> yea, it is ava
[14:58] <fsphil_2I0VIM> just saw the pause between strings
[14:58] <fsphil_2I0VIM> that means she's at least 15km up
[14:58] <daveake> I really should be getting data then
[14:58] <ingersol> I would say higher, she has got stronger in the last 10 minutes.
[14:58] <eroomde> shame mondo didn't hit 40km
[14:59] <fsphil_2I0VIM> my dial is 434.073.060
[14:59] <eroomde> a dangerous flirt but didn;t share a taxi home
[14:59] <G8DSU> I've pretty much lost it. Lot of fading in and out of noise.
[15:00] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I have nothing I can definitely say is the payload
[15:00] <daveake> Just too week here. Tried moving the antenna around and still can't get it stronger
[15:00] <fsphil_2I0VIM> yea, gone here too
[15:01] <fsphil_2I0VIM> didn't get back in time
[15:01] <fsphil_2I0VIM> lovely lunch though :)
[15:01] <ingersol> I make the frequency centre as 434.076265
[15:01] <fsphil_2I0VIM> that seems quite high
[15:01] <daveake> I was a bit slow getting started earlier ... the cable going into the BNC on my receiver got stretched last week (the wind kept blowing the antenna/tripod over!) and the connection was intermittemt
[15:02] <ingersol> fsphil is your rig in usb mode?
[15:02] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ingersol, yes
[15:02] <G8DSU> My dial 434.073.20 (+1.5KHz to centre)
[15:03] <fsphil_2I0VIM> signal totally gone
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[15:03] <daveake> My "rig" is obviously decimal-placed-challenged
[15:03] <daveake> place
[15:03] <fsphil_2I0VIM> should put it about 13km up
[15:03] <ingersol> well thats the reason. Tune to a 600hz signal in CW mode depending on whether your rigs side tone is set on lsb or usb In usb.
[15:04] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ah, we normally talk in dial frequencies here =
[15:04] <NigeyS> ok update me, whos up, whos down, and whos lost ?
[15:04] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ava heading to earth
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[15:04] <daveake> Xaben down and found
[15:04] <daveake> Mondo dunno
[15:04] <daveake> AVA heading down, somewhere
[15:04] <NigeyS> awsome :D
[15:04] <ingersol> I am fiarly confident of that frequency +/- calibration of my soundcard.(See last months P.W.)
[15:04] <daveake> Mondo hit #2 in uk alt list
[15:05] <NigeyS> :o
[15:05] <NigeyS> schweet
[15:05] <G8DSU> Just managed a decode of string 1410 from AVA
[15:05] <NigeyS> fsphil, wasnt matts wedding today ?
[15:05] <fsphil_2I0VIM> it totally is NigeyS
[15:05] <NigeyS> better send him a txt "Servers broke, get and fix it, wedding or not" lol
[15:06] <daveake> G8DSU 1410m just now?
[15:06] <fsphil_2I0VIM> haha
[15:06] <ingersol> last decode here was 1405. shes gone from IO86
[15:06] <G8DSU> NO! Message 1410. No valid GPS/altitude data
[15:06] <daveake> Sorry, just realised
[15:06] <G8DSU> :-)
[15:07] <fsphil_2I0VIM> No strings here from xaben or ava, my auto tuner failed me
[15:07] <daveake> For a moment I thought the GPS had burst into life
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[15:07] <fsphil_2I0VIM> Soon as I get my new phone, I'm making an android fldigi interface
[15:07] <G8DSU> Sadly not (yet)..
[15:07] <daveake> Please do :)
[15:07] <daveake> I'm installing a car PC and I could do with an fldigi display on my Android on the dash :)
[15:08] <fsphil_2I0VIM> that would be nifty
[15:08] <fsphil_2I0VIM> decoded text and a waterfall
[15:08] <NigeyS> fsphil, be very careful with anything that has the word "auto" in front of it lol
[15:08] <fsphil_2I0VIM> some basic controls
[15:08] <G3VZV> as the tracker is not updating - how can i see who is submitting data ?
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[15:10] <G8DSU> http://www.robertharrison.org/listen/view.php give raw data - but it's a vast file and doesn't automatically update..
[15:10] <fsphil_2I0VIM> indeed, needs trimmed down that
[15:10] <fsphil_2I0VIM> do you have wget G8DSU?
[15:11] <G8DSU> No - is that something that works in the Windows world?
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> while true
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> do wget -c thaturl
[15:11] <fsphil_2I0VIM> nope
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> done
[15:11] <fsphil_2I0VIM> well maybe
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> and it'll append to the end of the file the new data
[15:13] <fsphil_2I0VIM> you can also watch the changes to the couchdb in real time with curl
[15:13] <fsphil_2I0VIM> though it's not terribly human friendly
[15:14] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ava data is still being uploaded
[15:14] <fsphil_2I0VIM> by number10 and G3VZV
[15:14] <number10> yes
[15:14] <fsphil_2I0VIM> gps has totally give up I see
[15:14] <fsphil_2I0VIM> ooch
[15:15] <number10> looks like it
[15:15] <number10> I dont think Upu is using any of daveake code ;)
[15:15] <daveake> Ooooh, that hurts
[15:15] <number10> sorry dave
[15:15] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I'm pretty certain this was not a software flaw :)
[15:15] <daveake> Nope
[15:16] <fsphil_2I0VIM> the time is still updating
[15:16] <fsphil_2I0VIM> the gps antenna might be faulty
[15:17] <daveake> That seems quite likely
[15:17] <fsphil_2I0VIM> how was ava's signal before burst?
[15:17] <fsphil_2I0VIM> I missed that unfortunately
[15:18] <G3VZV> the best of the three
[15:21] Nick change: fsphil_2I0VIM -> fsphil-laptop
[15:22] <fsphil-laptop> my yagi in the attic didn't hear any of them - must just be too low down
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[15:28] <G3VZV> ava still going strong frame 1508 but no gps data:(
[15:28] <daveake> This could run for longer than The Mousetrap
[15:29] <daveake> Large 'chute
[15:29] <daveake> Wonder if the backup tracker is responding yet
[15:31] <number10> looking at where Mondo and Xaben landed, Ava may go to Aldeburgh
[15:31] <daveake> I know it well :D
[15:31] <number10> lol
[15:32] <G3VZV> it would be nice to have a beam heading tom someone located near the coast
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[15:43] <futurity> just been checking through my partial strings just before I lost the signal
[15:43] <number10> lost Ava now
[15:43] <futurity> it seems that it was 0 value coords until touch down
[15:45] <fsphil-laptop> last string received so far was 1559
[15:47] <G3VZV> yes i lost it at frame 1553
[15:55] <gb73d> 7169L MM0RAI/P operational there til tomorow
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[15:59] <number10> UpuMobile : did gps tracker work?
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[16:06] <futurity> i turned it off before recording the last frame number
[16:06] <futurity> are the frames stored somewhere on the hard drive?
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[16:14] <fsphil-laptop> futurity, nope unless you've logging in dl-fldigi enabled
[16:18] <Randomskk> http://www.holmea.demon.co.uk/GPS/Main.htm
[16:20] <fsphil-laptop> neat
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[16:27] <fsphil-laptop> wonder if they're direction finding, or if the backup worked
[16:29] <eroomde> Randomskk: subtitle for my talk
[16:29] <eroomde> option 1) ESA Wonderful Life (no)
[16:30] <eroomde> 2) Testing parachutes can be a drag
[16:30] <SpeedEvil> 'my life in drag'
[16:30] <eroomde> ideal
[16:31] <Randomskk> eroomde: both are puntastic
[16:32] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[16:32] <fsphil-laptop> it's a punderful life
[16:34] <eroomde> parachute testing for poshos : fancy a gin and sonic?
[16:34] <fsphil-laptop> sonic boom boom
[16:34] <fsphil-laptop> $$TASKERMILWARD -- is that real or is my dl-fldigi inventing payloads?
[16:35] <Randomskk> real. I think someone put $$ in their payload name for some crazy reason
[16:35] <Randomskk> needs fixing really
[16:36] <eroomde> that's just designed to break parsers
[16:37] <Randomskk> $$'DROP TABLE payloads;--,12:34:21,51.1234
[16:37] <ejcweb> eroomde: By the sound of those titles sounds like you missed your true vocation!
[16:37] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[16:37] <fsphil-laptop> I've been tweaking the live image page, can anyone tell me if this is updating without the entire image flashing: http://www.sanslogic.co.uk/ssdv/live
[16:39] <UpuMobile> no luck i'm afraid....
[16:39] <fsphil-laptop> nooooo
[16:39] <UpuMobile> backupgsm is working but reporting from the north sea!
[16:39] <fsphil-laptop> what position?
[16:39] <fsphil-laptop> (out of curiosity)
[16:39] <UpuMobile> just off the coast
[16:39] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: It's flashing
[16:40] <fsphil-laptop> SpeedEvil, drat. the entire image or just the empty part at the bottom?
[16:40] <UpuMobile> not sure but battery about to run out....heading for pub then will be back in touch
[16:40] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: I'd guess it's the background as the background colour of the current element
[16:40] <fsphil-laptop> SpeedEvil, what browser?
[16:40] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: I think the same is happening at teh top - but it's going off the missing datas DC coefficients
[16:40] <SpeedEvil> firefox 6 or so
[16:41] <fsphil-laptop> the top should be grey, I missed that bit when receiving. but it shouldn't change
[16:41] <fsphil-laptop> the only bit that should change is the bottom empty parts, where the DC isn't being updated
[16:41] <fsphil-laptop> it'll continue with whatever colour it ended with
[16:41] <daveake> UpuMobile - oh no!
[16:42] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: yes - I meant it'd change if it got new data at the top
[16:42] <fsphil-laptop> SpeedEvil, so the image (the bits that have been received) are not flickering?
[16:42] <SpeedEvil> no
[16:42] <daveake> UpuMobile - get a boat. Don't come back till you've found at least 2 payloads ;)
[16:42] <SpeedEvil> That's static
[16:42] <fsphil-laptop> excellent
[16:42] <fsphil-laptop> that's the bit I was fixing
[16:42] <fsphil-laptop> the entire image was flickering before
[16:43] <SpeedEvil> Well - it's not changing, I mean, it's not staticy static
[16:43] <SpeedEvil> Works fine on phone, though takes some time to load
[16:43] <fsphil-laptop> the problem was the image was disappering for a fraction of a second when it was updated
[16:43] <fsphil-laptop> yea it's a big image
[16:44] <SpeedEvil> On a related matter - nokias store is so broken.
[16:44] <SpeedEvil> Yes, they've got some apps up.
[16:44] <SpeedEvil> (for the n9)
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[16:44] <SpeedEvil> You'd think that 'The Sims' would be close to the top wouldn't you.
[16:45] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: this is at 1200?
[16:49] <kristianpaul> Any around with experiencie building dipole atennas?
[16:50] <kristianpaul> for NOAA satellites actually
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> NOAAs subcontractors, I guess.
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[17:03] <cuddykid> hi fsphil :)
[17:05] <daveake> cuddykid ... did someone abduct you? ;)
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[17:06] <jcoxon> evening all
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[17:07] <daveake> Evening, how's the manflu?
[17:07] <UpuMobile> evening guys
[17:07] <UpuMobile> Ava lost :(
[17:07] <jcoxon> daveake, i think i'm through the worst
[17:07] <jcoxon> UpuMobile, it might appear somewhere
[17:07] <daveake> UpuMobile :(
[17:07] <jcoxon> gsm backup not helping?
[17:07] <UpuMobile> GSM tracker says its in the sea but it can't be
[17:07] <daveake> Can't be?
[17:08] <jcoxon> UpuMobile, give it time - it might get a better GPS lock
[17:08] <UpuMobile> no we had it on the ground for an hour
[17:08] <SpeedEvil> How far in the sea does it say?
[17:08] <daveake> Yep
[17:08] <fsphil-laptop> UpuMobile, someone has bound to see it
[17:08] <UpuMobile> well
[17:08] <daveake> Pink in the drink
[17:08] <UpuMobile> its in the trees near RAF Lakenheath
[17:08] <cuddykid> daveake: haha! Been v busy the past few weeks - was 1st week at uni this week& now got freshers flu.. :( haha
[17:08] <UpuMobile> firing range :)
[17:08] <junderwood_M0JCU> UpuMobile, whereabouts in the sea?
[17:09] <UpuMobile> don't have coords atm
[17:09] <junderwood_M0JCU> Mondo started heading east quite quickly at altitude.
[17:09] <UpuMobile> but there is no way we'd get a strong tranmission on 70cm with an antenna in water
[17:09] <junderwood_M0JCU> I could believe you landed somerhere off Southwold
[17:09] <daveake> Any chance of DFing?
[17:09] <junderwood_M0JCU> ture
[17:10] <junderwood_M0JCU> *true
[17:10] <UpuMobile> we used the Yagi to direction find it and it was around Lakenheath
[17:10] <UpuMobile> still lovely evening in Elsworth at the pub
[17:10] <fsphil-laptop> you got the signal after it landed?
[17:10] <UpuMobile> yeah strong for an hour
[17:10] <UpuMobile> then it just went off
[17:10] <junderwood_M0JCU> How does the time of flight compare with Xaben and Mondo?
[17:10] <UpuMobile> we think someone has it tbh as that tracker can do 72 hours on batteries
[17:11] <UpuMobile> junderwood_M0JCU it was longer as it had a 6 ft parachute on it
[17:11] <junderwood_M0JCU> IC
[17:11] <daveake> 6' !!!!
[17:11] Nick change: junderwood_M0JCU -> junderwood
[17:11] <junderwood> What was the payload mass?
[17:11] <junderwood> (roughly)
[17:13] <UpuMobile> 1.6kg
[17:13] <junderwood> ouch
[17:13] <daveake> Sounds a bit over-chuted
[17:13] <junderwood> just over 3 m/s at sea level
[17:15] <UpuMobile> Well I had a passenger
[17:16] <UpuMobile> damn shame it looked great at take off
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[17:17] <jgrahamc> Evening all.
[17:17] <UpuMobile> personally I think someones got it
[17:18] <jcoxon> do you have a contact detail on it?
[17:18] <UpuMobile> yes
[17:18] <UpuMobile> clear detail on both payloads
[17:18] <jgrahamc> How are recoveries going with the three launches today? Didn't have any chance to track today.
[17:18] <UpuMobile> must have been an antenna issue
[17:18] <UpuMobile> hey jgrahamc
[17:18] <UpuMobile> Xaben recovered
[17:18] <UpuMobile> Ava lost
[17:18] <daveake> Xaben was recovered
[17:19] <UpuMobile> we heard from Bello ?
[17:19] <daveake> I haven't seen anyhting
[17:19] <jgrahamc> It looked like Ava died in flight. Is that right?
[17:19] <jcoxon> any idea what happend to the gps?
[17:20] <UpuMobile> 52.191563,1.685483
[17:20] <UpuMobile> that is what the GSM tracker is saying
[17:21] <jgrahamc> It's floating in the North Sea
[17:21] <jgrahamc> ?
[17:21] <UpuMobile> doesn't tally up with what we heard on the group
[17:21] Action: UpuMobile shrugs
[17:22] <UpuMobile> ground
[17:22] <futurity> has the transmitter stopped?
[17:23] <UpuMobile> its still reporting its there in the sea
[17:23] <jcoxon> isn't that where daveake's payload landed?
[17:23] <daveake> Mine was ~10 miles out
[17:24] <UpuMobile> all very odd
[17:24] <UpuMobile> maybe it wasn't down when we were trying to track it
[17:24] <futurity> i take it that the signal is to stung to find it directionally
[17:24] <futurity> turning the Yagi around
[17:24] <jcoxon> interestingly if you assume it has our classic error its here:
[17:24] <jcoxon> 52.191563,1.0685483
[17:24] <jcoxon> which is very similar to where mondo landed
[17:25] <UpuMobile> its a commerical tracker
[17:25] <UpuMobile> and it is responding to our reboot so I have to assume the tracker is currently floating about at sea
[17:25] <jcoxon> do you get response now when you text it?
[17:25] <daveake> Last 2 known positions for mine - https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318422_10150298651772654_695937653_7838466_352415300_n.jpg
[17:25] <UpuMobile> but its just so far away from where the others landed
[17:26] <daveake> It did take a long while to come down, though, didn't it?
[17:26] <UpuMobile> yeah
[17:26] <SpeedEvil> And those positions are different
[17:26] <jcoxon> UpuMobile, is there variation when you message it?
[17:27] <jcoxon> as if someone has it indoors then it won't update its pos
[17:27] <x-f> UpuMobile, would it have GSM coverage there at the sea?
[17:27] <jcoxon> but if its outside it could
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[17:28] <SpeedEvil> There are services to 'locate your phone' based on GSM
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[17:28] <SpeedEvil> has it been signed up to any of those?
[17:29] <Upu_> yes jcoxon
[17:29] <Upu_> its bobbibg about its probably in the dsea
[17:30] <fsphil-laptop> yea, those phone tracking services would be handy -- do they work without access to the device?
[17:30] <jcoxon> Upu_, :(
[17:30] <fsphil-laptop> I mean don't they need to be setup?
[17:30] <jcoxon> fsphil-laptop, they need to be setup
[17:30] <Upu_> its a commercial one
[17:31] <fsphil-laptop> Upu_, I mean those services that locate using the radio cells
[17:31] <Upu_> we think the location is accurate
[17:32] <Upu_> probably why the radio cut off so rapidly
[17:33] <fsphil-laptop> you think it sunk?
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[17:33] <Upu_> sure it will float
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[17:35] <futurity> hopefully it'll eventually be washed ashore. Does it have your contact details on it?
[17:35] <Upu_> it does
[17:35] <Upu_> anyway
[17:35] <Upu_> logging off now long drive back
[17:35] <Upu_> lsters
[17:35] <fsphil-laptop> fingers crossed
[17:35] <Upu_> laters
[17:36] <fsphil-laptop> later Upu_
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[17:36] <futurity> laters Upu
[17:36] <fsphil-laptop> we need a bigger country
[17:36] <futurity> true
[17:36] <futurity> or launch from the other side of it
[17:36] <fsphil-laptop> yea
[17:37] <fsphil-laptop> or at least more central
[17:37] <fsphil-laptop> england is pretty huge
[17:37] <daveake> Even Australia isn't necessarily big enough :p
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[17:38] <futurity> if it wasn't for the SW wind
[17:38] <fsphil-laptop> I'd love to know what happened the gps. I've never seen the altitude go nuts like that before
[17:38] <futurity> London area would be good as loads of motorways going in all directions
[17:39] <futurity> did AVA have camera, etc onboard as well. as in an expensive loss?
[17:39] <fsphil-laptop> there was a camera yea
[17:40] <fsphil-laptop> canon and one of those wee chinese video cams
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[17:41] <futurity> i think when i eventually get around to doing my launch it'll be a very cheap payload.
[17:41] <futurity> perhaps cheap enough to not warrant searching for it
[17:41] <fsphil-laptop> I'm a fan of cheap, for the first couple anyway
[17:41] <fsphil-laptop> if flying expensive, have three trackers :)
[17:42] <fsphil-laptop> two radio and one gsm
[17:42] <futurity> considering not even including a gps
[17:42] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: It looked a bit like one of those failures where the GPS stopped believing the satellites, and was trying to force it to 'make sense'
[17:42] <futurity> just use pressure to estimate height
[17:42] <futurity> but i think without GPS, you don't really know what you've acheived
[17:43] <SpeedEvil> Unless you try something different like optical tracking
[17:43] <fsphil-laptop> would need a clear day
[17:43] <SpeedEvil> Indeed
[17:43] <fsphil-laptop> don't happen very often
[17:43] <fsphil-laptop> only modest optics would be needed I think
[17:44] <fsphil-laptop> a nice brightly coloured parachute
[17:44] <futurity> i managed to capture rharrision's balloon bursting once
[17:44] <fsphil-laptop> I think I seen that video
[17:44] <futurity> but that was very difficult task
[17:44] <SpeedEvil> futurity: that was awesome
[17:44] <futurity> on the
[17:44] <fsphil-laptop> futurity, what was the range?
[17:44] <fsphil-laptop> distance evne
[17:44] <SpeedEvil> futurity: you could - barely - see the payload falling out the bottom
[17:44] <futurity> rum, i think it was almost straight up
[17:45] <futurity> very lucky day
[17:45] <daveake> even even
[17:45] <daveake> I remember that video (assuming it's the same one)
[17:45] <fsphil-laptop> evne is better
[17:45] <daveake> bettre
[17:45] <futurity> i must have been down wind some distance, but the camera was more than 45 degrees off the horizon
[17:45] <futurity> so didn't travel far down wind
[17:45] <futurity> yep same one
[17:46] <futurity> unless anyone else has captured one since
[17:46] <futurity> but even with such ideal optical tracking conditions, it was very difficult
[17:47] <SpeedEvil> I suspect in some cases, it may be easier
[17:47] <fsphil-laptop> this is the best one I've seen: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG7xFt1FpCc
[17:47] <fsphil-laptop> posted before
[17:47] <SpeedEvil> flashing LED, night
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[17:47] <futurity> slightest movement of the camera and the single pixel on the display would disappear
[17:47] <futurity> then a nightmare to get it back
[17:47] <futurity> when the balloon burst, i was in the middle of adjusting the camera and thought i'd lost it
[17:47] <futurity> i only found out later on the computer that i caught the burst
[17:48] <futurity> got sun burnt that day (and electrocuted by the electric fence that keeps the rabbits off the crops lol
[17:48] <daveake> <impressed>
[17:48] <futurity> again at the EARS site
[17:48] <futurity> it was luck
[17:48] <futurity> not planned at all
[17:49] <futurity> filmed the launch and thought i'd just keep filming
[17:49] <daveake> :)
[17:49] <fsphil-laptop> futurity, I remember the shocking incident from one of the videos :)
[17:49] <futurity> nope that video isn't my one
[17:49] <futurity> its much better quality though
[17:49] <fsphil-laptop> yea, I remember yours
[17:50] <fsphil-laptop> that's the clearest one I've seen
[17:50] <fsphil-laptop> looks like it was got through a goto telescope
[17:51] <fsphil-laptop> love the way the bits of balloon sort of hover
[17:51] <fsphil-laptop> actually they look like they continue to rise
[17:51] <fsphil-laptop> some of them anyway
[17:51] <futurity> yep
[17:51] <futurity> this is my one
[17:51] <futurity> http://www.youtube.com/user/futuritymmx#p/u/4/mznpNYMNRpg
[17:51] <futurity> just looks like the balloon fades away
[17:52] <futurity> lol, my video of the balloon when i got the electric shock
[17:52] <futurity> http://www.youtube.com/user/futuritymmx#p/u/6/AQPI1EsTWxU
[17:52] <fsphil-laptop> *crack*
[17:53] <daveake> ouch!
[17:53] <fsphil-laptop> "don't touch it"
[17:53] <fsphil-laptop> *after* you touch it
[17:53] <futurity> yep
[17:53] <futurity> one of those things that as a kid you dared each other to touch it
[17:53] <fsphil-laptop> another important hab lesson
[17:53] <futurity> yet this one was evil
[17:54] <futurity> right on the elbow
[17:54] <futurity> yes keep near the trees ;)
[17:55] <fsphil-laptop> I might try videoing the 1.6kg launch, since I'm not chasing it
[17:55] <fsphil-laptop> on the slim chance that it's not cloudy
[17:55] <futurity> when is that launch due
[17:55] <futurity> if its a clear day i may come and optically track it as well for fun
[17:55] <fsphil-laptop> whenever DM does his thing
[17:56] <fsphil-laptop> it's launching in N.Ireland, but it'll be heading your way
[17:56] <futurity> ooops, EARS is on my doorstep
[17:56] <futurity> NI is a bit further away
[17:56] <fsphil-laptop> slightly :)
[17:57] <fsphil-laptop> though to be honest it may end up being EARS
[17:57] <daveake> :D
[17:57] <fsphil-laptop> I'm getting bored waiting on the caa
[17:57] <futurity> is the transmitter of choice still the NTX2?
[17:57] <fsphil-laptop> seems to be yea
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[17:58] <fsphil-laptop> still don't know how a 10mw signal can travel sofar
[17:59] <daveake> It's done by magic
[17:59] <fsphil-laptop> ah yes
[17:59] <daveake> 10mW is an average LED
[17:59] <fsphil-laptop> I keep forgetting RF is actually magic
[17:59] <daveake> :)
[17:59] <futurity> cool
[17:59] <futurity> i see on ebay there is a similar one very cheap
[17:59] <futurity> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320714934283?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
[18:00] <fsphil-laptop> that's the wideband version
[18:00] <futurity> but i guess these are for the standard frequency, so would clash with house alarms etc?
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[18:00] <futurity> i'm not that hot on the electronics
[18:00] <futurity> could it be made to work, or not worth the effort?
[18:00] <fsphil-laptop> only nearby devices would be blocked
[18:00] <daveake> happens :)
[18:00] <fsphil-laptop> I'm not sure .. at that price it's worth a try
[18:01] <futurity> that's what i was thinking. might be worth a try
[18:01] <futurity> am i right in thinking that with a DC offset it can move the frequency?
[18:01] <fsphil-laptop> it's got a wider deviation, but just means you need different resistors
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[18:01] <fsphil-laptop> that's how we do rtty yea
[18:03] <fsphil-laptop> usually between 0 and 3v
[18:03] <fsphil-laptop> for full deviation
[18:03] <futurity> cool
[18:03] <futurity> need to go watch DR WHO
[18:03] <futurity> may be back later
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[18:04] <fsphil-laptop> babysitting now :(
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[18:04] <fsphil-laptop> brb
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[18:35] <jcoxon> hmmm my solar/lipo combo powered my pico payload for 10hrs
[18:36] <jcoxon> need to fine tune the power saving
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[18:41] <number10> was that with this weekends sunshiine jcoxon?
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[18:59] <jcoxon> number10, yeah but at altitude i'd aspect similar
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[20:31] <UpuMobile> evening
[20:32] <UpuMobile> does anyone had the prediction I posted to channel about 7.30-8.30 this morning ?
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[20:36] <SpeedEvil> (07:29:47 AM) UpuMobile: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=98f49c0e03723892e998293dee9a2cffbff876f0
[20:38] <daveake> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=98f49c0e03723892e998293dee9a2cffbff876f0
[20:38] <daveake> Yep - http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=98f49c0e03723892e998293dee9a2cffbff876f0
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[20:40] <UpuMobile> was there one after that ?
[20:40] <UpuMobile> that was the one where the time was wrong
[20:42] <UpuMobile> I'm guessing here but I think Ava went way higher than our prediction
[20:42] <UpuMobile> and decended alot slower
[20:42] <UpuMobile> and then ended up in the sea
[20:42] <UpuMobile> yay
[20:44] <UpuMobile> thx anyway
[20:46] <Laurenceb_> Randomskk: ping
[20:48] <NigeyS> oo ava splashed down UpuMobile ?
[20:49] <UpuMobile> aye
[20:49] <NigeyS> bah that sucks :(
[20:50] <number10> UpuMobile: did you get more than one fix in the sea to get an idea of direction of drift
[20:54] <number10> I was wondering if it would wash up on the beach somewhere
[20:56] <RocketBoy> UpuMobile: Humm - just cant see how it could end up in the sea off the east coast - still not convinced
[20:57] <RocketBoy> I'll eat my hat
[20:57] <RocketBoy> (not that I have one)
[20:58] <number10> where do yo think it landed RocketBoy?
[20:58] <RocketBoy> looked at the descent rate for a 6' Rocketman and 1.6Kg payload - 3.5m/sec - not very slow
[20:59] <RocketBoy> near thetford
[21:02] <number10> I was not here for the launch - was interested to know how long Ava was airborne compared to Xaben
[21:02] <number10> joined in a bit late
[21:11] <RocketBoy> just gonna take a look at the logs
[21:12] <Laurenceb_> Ava was real?!
[21:12] <Laurenceb_> i thought it was a sim
[21:12] <UpuMobile> I have further data RocketBoy
[21:12] <UpuMobile> let me upload
[21:12] <RocketBoy> yeah - 3 flights today
[21:13] <RocketBoy> UpuMobile: np
[21:13] <RocketBoy> let me know
[21:13] <UpuMobile> http://imageshack.us/f/13/unled2xt.png/
[21:14] <RocketBoy> gonna look at the initial ascent rate and see if its in float tertory
[21:14] <UpuMobile> either it went very high then very slow descent
[21:14] <UpuMobile> and/or float
[21:15] <RocketBoy> sort of looks convincing
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[21:15] <RocketBoy> and if you take that with the mondo flight path then i guess its possible
[21:15] <UpuMobile> http://pastebin.com/KuQL6PYr
[21:15] <UpuMobile> yeah
[21:16] <UpuMobile> very viable
[21:17] <UpuMobile> see where it is tommorrow morning
[21:17] <RocketBoy> Just don't know how I could get a direction of SE from where we stopped
[21:18] <RocketBoy> yeah
[21:18] <RocketBoy> Lets hope it washes up on the coast
[21:18] <UpuMobile> yup
[21:19] <UpuMobile> anyway need to walk dog
[21:19] <UpuMobile> thx for help today
[21:20] <RocketBoy> np
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[21:22] <number10> say hello to charlie
[21:22] <UpuMobile> hey number10!
[21:23] <number10> hi there - i realised that I recogniosed you from the video stream test!
[21:23] <UpuMobile> https://picasaweb.google.com/118244444241111963790/AWeekInBorrowdalesSept2011#5655904628396842338
[21:23] <UpuMobile> ok really afk now
[21:23] <number10> cu
[21:23] <UpuMobile> will reconnect from desktop shortly
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[21:45] <Upu> thanks for everyones help today hopefully it was a little more entertaining with the video feed
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[21:51] <daveake> Picked up some tips, like the workmate :-)
[21:52] <daveake> And of course there was the true pinkiness to admire :D
[21:53] <fsphil> yes it was a very informative stream this time :)
[21:54] <Upu> well the workmate was a bodge :)
[21:55] <Upu> really gutted as the payload hanging below me had an upward facing camera
[21:56] <Upu> http://imageshack.us/f/5/dsc03385ep.jpg/
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[21:57] <daveake> Let's hope for favourable tides
[21:57] <jcoxon> Upu, is it still alive?
[21:57] <Upu> yeah
[21:57] <daveake> Has it moved much?
[21:57] <Upu> i dont' have access to that tracker at this time but it was fine when we left Elsworth
[21:58] <Upu> not sure he's put it in standby remotely and he's going to try it tommorrow morning
[21:58] <Upu> its waterproof and should last a few days
[21:58] <jcoxon> okay
[21:58] <Randomskk> Laurenceb_: pong
[21:58] <Randomskk> Laurenceb_: my tiny motors arrived! they're so, so small
[21:59] <Upu> told Steve I'll pay for him to get a boat out to it if its still there tommorrow
[21:59] <Upu> We didn't believe it could have made it out that far
[21:59] <daveake> Steve the bounty hunter :)
[21:59] <Upu> but looking at Mondo my personal feeling is it got really high ~40km and then the decent was about 3m/s
[22:00] <Upu> probably not 40km but not far off it
[22:01] <daveake> There could be money involved if Steve finds anything else bobbing about ;)
[22:02] <Upu> http://www.trackershop-uk.com/TRACK-Pod+2+LiveMap+GPS+Tracker-p-59.html
[22:02] <Upu> got one of those in it I think
[22:04] <Laurenceb_> Randomskk: hi
[22:04] <Laurenceb_> so you're planning super small quadcopter?
[22:05] <Randomskk> yes
[22:05] <Laurenceb_> i was just wondering what your thoughts were on dual processor/board controller boards
[22:05] <Laurenceb_> are you going for _ultra_ lightweight
[22:05] <Randomskk> well
[22:05] <Randomskk> I want as lightweight as I can while still being feasibly able to do computer vision in r2
[22:05] <Laurenceb_> hmm
[22:06] <Randomskk> my minimum feature set otherwise is gps, magno, accel, gyro, etc so
[22:06] <Laurenceb_> im wondering how practical it is to do computer vision on the main cpu
[22:06] <Randomskk> I'm trying to be as light as I can be given feature constraints
[22:06] <Laurenceb_> is it nicer if it runs linux?
[22:06] <Randomskk> yea, I think I'll probably end up with one STM32 for flight control and another processor of some kind for CV/mission control
[22:06] <Randomskk> I guess so
[22:06] <Randomskk> which is why my original plan was a gumstix
[22:06] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[22:06] <Laurenceb_> i guess thats the best option
[22:06] <Randomskk> they're 5 grams for wifi+700MHz CPU with DSP
[22:06] <Laurenceb_> wow
[22:06] <Randomskk> and a camera interface
[22:07] <Randomskk> so like
[22:07] <Randomskk> that would eat up an EKF and happily do CV at the same time
[22:07] <Laurenceb_> yeah but youd need real time kernel
[22:07] <Randomskk> doable
[22:07] <Laurenceb_> i was thinking about connecting a gumstix to Dactyl
[22:08] <Laurenceb_> and using UAVtalk or something to interface
[22:10] <Randomskk> could work
[22:10] <Randomskk> I think if I end up doing gumstix I'd likely make it the only flight computer and do estimation on that
[22:10] <Randomskk> but probably keep the stm32 for interfacing sensors quickly
[22:10] <Randomskk> and motor controllers
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[22:11] <Randomskk> so my plan is motor controller first, then r1 quadcopter with sensors, 4x motor controller, stm32f104 doing all the stuff it needs
[22:11] <Randomskk> then revise that upwards, maybe with a gumstix
[22:12] <Randomskk> my thoughts on motor controllers keep shifting, given I've just got this one from HK which is /tiny/ and has almost no components
[22:12] <Randomskk> I don't entirely even get how they do it
[22:12] <SpeedEvil> Rip it open
[22:12] <Randomskk> nothing to rip open
[22:12] <Randomskk> it's just a pcb
[22:14] <jcoxon> Upu, ping
[22:14] <Upu> pong
[22:14] <jcoxon> so i've generated a kml
[22:15] <jcoxon> of the gsm tracker posts
[22:15] <Upu> ok
[22:15] <Upu> just off the coast ?
[22:15] <jcoxon> so did you have to text it?
[22:15] <jcoxon> or did it text you?
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[22:15] <Upu> yes
[22:15] <Upu> You can request location/put it in standby etc
[22:16] <jcoxon> looking at the profile
[22:16] <Upu> I don't have access to the control panel though
[22:16] <jcoxon> its got a spin like a descending parachute
[22:16] <Upu> can you link KML ?
[22:17] <Randomskk> Laurenceb_: but like, my weight limit's something like 30, 40g
[22:17] <Randomskk> which isn't much
[22:17] <jcoxon> http://pastebin.com/6XumNN72
[22:19] <Upu> ta jsut installing Google Earth, reloaded on Friday
[22:21] <Upu> fits the predicted 'N' shape
[22:21] <Upu> just can't believe it got that far
[22:22] <jcoxon> can you see the bit i'm talking about?
[22:22] <Upu> yeah off the coast
[22:22] <Upu> spinning
[22:22] <Upu> could be currents ?
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> Was it designed to float?
[22:23] <Upu> nope
[22:23] <Upu> however both Ava and the other payload were polystyrene so they won't sink
[22:23] <jcoxon> Upu, nah time is very close
[22:24] <Upu> ok
[22:24] <Upu> wish the altitude had been working
[22:24] <jcoxon> well it could be
[22:24] <jcoxon> but thats odd parachutes
[22:27] <Upu> I've mailed that to Steve
[22:27] <Upu> asked Josh to advise if its still alive in the morning
[22:28] <Upu> all good fun
[22:28] <Upu> Time to redesign my payload I think
[22:28] <SpeedEvil> Was the GPS a known good model?
[22:29] <Upu> yeah GPS was fine, GPS Antenna wasn't
[22:29] <Upu> Inventek ISM300
[22:29] <jcoxon> Upu, http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/wiki/lib/exe/fetch.php/missions:haps:log.kml.zip?id=missions%3Ahaps%3Ahaps-1&cache=cache
[22:29] <jcoxon> have a look at this kml
[22:29] <Upu> no idea why it had all sats on the ground but by 5k it could only see 3 sats
[22:29] <jcoxon> and look at the last 300m
[22:30] <Upu> loading
[22:30] <Upu> Yep
[22:30] <Upu> looks similar
[22:30] <Upu> love the "3d" effect on that
[22:31] <jcoxon> yeah its awesome
[22:31] <jcoxon> Upu, well good luck
[22:31] <Upu> thanks I think we'll need it
[22:31] <jcoxon> its only 3 miles out
[22:31] <jcoxon> on the last data point
[22:31] <Upu> good day though learnt alot
[22:31] <jcoxon> hehe
[22:32] <Laurenceb_> brb
[22:32] <Upu> there will be some epic photos on there if anyone gets it back
[22:33] <Upu> cheers for taking a look at the data though
[22:35] <SpeedEvil> Is this the first other sort of floater?
[22:36] <Upu> yeah :)
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[22:45] <Upu> GSM Tracker just updated
[22:45] <Upu> 52.268107, 1.727042
[22:46] <Upu> its still alive batter 56%
[22:46] <jcoxon> thats excellent news
[22:46] <jcoxon> just powering up google earth
[22:46] <Upu> still floating
[22:47] <jcoxon> 4miles
[22:49] <Upu> might have to take it back about Vodafone
[22:52] <SpeedEvil> Who were those people with the boat a few days ago?
[22:53] <Upu> All the photos from launch currently uploading here : https://picasaweb.google.com/118244444241111963790/201110AvaLaunch there are loads
[22:53] <Upu> ok off to bed
[22:54] <Upu> thanks everyone for today
[22:54] <Upu> night
[22:55] <SpeedEvil> Isnt' that position on the land?
[22:55] <SpeedEvil> Oh
[22:55] <SpeedEvil> It's on a beach!
[22:56] <jcoxon> nah
[22:56] <jcoxon> thats googlemaps
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> Is this a minute/decimal degree thing?
[22:56] <jcoxon> no
[22:56] <jcoxon> google maps will put hte point at the nearest road
[22:56] <jcoxon> look for the green arrow
[22:57] <SpeedEvil> Ah - that's fairly broken
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[23:02] <SpeedEvil> Interesting - tomorrow there is quite a lot of wind to the wsw/sw
[23:02] <NigeyS> SpeedEvil,
[23:03] <SpeedEvil> NigeyS,
[23:03] <NigeyS> do /dns outsideline.co.uk for me and tell me the ip you get back ? pleaseeeee
[23:04] <SpeedEvil> PING outsideline.co.uk (78.136.36.244) 56(84) bytes of data.
[23:04] <SpeedEvil> 64 bytes from 78.136.36.244: icmp_req=1 ttl=121 time=52.7 ms
[23:05] <NigeyS> ooo
[23:05] <NigeyS> does the site work ?
[23:05] <NigeyS> if it doesnt, i'm so fired!
[23:05] <Randomskk> seems to.
[23:06] <NigeyS> yey
[23:06] <NigeyS> that was the last site to migrate, also the biggest!
[23:06] <SpeedEvil> :)
[23:08] <NigeyS> they have stage. and dev. and hosted. which contains about 300 facebook app sites and configs, which someone forgot to tell me about until 6pm tonight! :@
[23:09] <SpeedEvil> eeek
[23:11] <NigeyS> oh they also forgot to mention the old servers go offline sat night at 12:01am ..
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[23:25] <Randomskk> isn't that sunday morning
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[23:28] <akawaka> natrium42: nice work on the SPOT stuff
[23:29] <akawaka> you just popped up on my newsreader feed and i thought, wait a minute i know that name
[23:32] <NigeyS> Randomskk, yup, they should have gone off 31mins ago heh
[23:32] <NigeyS> but theyre still online as ive got a 50MBps xfer going down to medway, theycan wait till thats finished!
[23:32] <Randomskk> hehe
[23:34] <NigeyS> another 4 hours and i'll have done a 24hour day, wonder if i get double time :|
[23:39] <Randomskk> :|
[23:39] <Randomskk> shouldn't that be triple
[23:42] <NigeyS> hehe dont think theyd pay me £105 an hour :(
[23:52] <Randomskk> :P
[23:54] <NigeyS> oo this is anew one..
[23:54] <NigeyS> PHP Warning: base64_decode() expects exactly 1 parameter, 2 given
[23:55] <NigeyS> wtf :|
[23:55] <Randomskk> well the error seems straightforward enough
[23:55] <Randomskk> why something is calling it with two arguments is perhaps more dubious
[23:55] <NigeyS> exactly.. stupid facebook prolly
[23:57] <NigeyS> $data = json_decode(base64_decode(strtr($payload, '-_', '+/'), true));
[23:57] <NigeyS> mmk....
[23:58] <Randomskk> ...
[23:58] <Randomskk> so it's passing true to base64_decode
[23:58] <Randomskk> maybe an old php did that...
[23:58] <Randomskk> or maybe it's meant to go to json_decode? I love really unhelpful parameters like true
[23:59] <Randomskk> this is where named parameters are ftw
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