highaltitude.log.20110924

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[00:09] <Lunar_Lander> gn8
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[06:14] <SamSilver_> I'll be back
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[06:41] <griffonbot> Received email: "Re: [UKHAS] October 1st/2nd Balloon Launch from EARS"
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[07:06] <SamSilver> ha ha ha
[07:06] <SamSilver> google
[07:06] <SamSilver> http:google .com
[07:07] <SamSilver> bugger
[07:08] <SamSilver> http://www.google.co.za
[07:12] <daveake> LOL
[07:14] <SamSilver> did you see the big "munch" happen daveake
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[07:15] <SamSilver> I was showing a 3 year old girl how they looked around when all of a sudden the one ate the other
[07:16] <daveake> :D
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[07:48] <nosebleedKT> well goodmorning
[07:48] <nosebleedKT> I just got my A480 from ebay
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[07:49] <nosebleedKT> and sometimes it takes pictures like that
[07:50] <nosebleedKT> http://imagebin.org/173821
[07:50] <Darkside> woah waht the hell
[07:51] <eroomde> nosebleedKT: where are you?
[07:51] <nosebleedKT> what do u mean?
[07:51] <nosebleedKT> im home ?
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[07:52] <eroomde> i mean the view is impressive
[07:52] <eroomde> from that photo
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[07:53] <nosebleedKT> this view sucks man! i just gave 60euro for this shit
[07:55] <nosebleedKT> http://imagebin.org/173824
[07:56] <nosebleedKT> its the country of all debt eroomde
[07:56] <x-f> Greece?
[07:57] <eroomde> that list is getting bigger :)
[07:57] <nosebleedKT> x-f: y
[07:58] <x-f> mixio showed a similar landscape
[07:58] <Darkside> i thought nosebleed = mixio
[07:58] <nosebleedKT> its me yes
[07:58] <nosebleedKT> mixio was an old nick
[07:58] <x-f> ah so
[07:58] <nosebleedKT> x-f: who r u ?
[07:59] <staylo> nosebleedKT: That's not a good sign, looks similar to http://www.imaging-resource.com/badccds.html
[08:00] <nosebleedKT> staylo: yes
[08:00] <nosebleedKT> but only a couple of pics where like that
[08:00] <nosebleedKT> the rest is ok
[08:03] <staylo> Unfortunately It might get worse suddenly. If it's not a bad CCD it may be the ribbon cable attaching the CCD to the camera's mainboard has come slightly loose.
[08:03] <nosebleedKT> i can do that ribbon cable
[08:03] <nosebleedKT> i have opened that type of camera many times
[08:05] <nosebleedKT> staylo: http://imagebin.org/173827
[08:05] <nosebleedKT> clean pic from my other balcony
[08:05] <staylo> cool :)
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[08:10] <nosebleedKT> staylo: so u think its the ribbon?
[08:13] <staylo> I'd guess so. I've had a similar picture from an A70 with an unseated ribbon cable some years back.
[08:13] <nosebleedKT> ribbon cable you mean that orange, right?
[08:15] <staylo> yeah, it was the only connection from the sensor to the mainboard on the A70
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[08:24] <nosebleedKT> well
[08:24] <nosebleedKT> its not the ribbon
[08:24] <nosebleedKT> its the CCD
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[08:25] <nosebleedKT> when i point the camera to a sunny scene, those vertical lines start to appear. When i move to a darker place the lines start to disappear
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[08:36] <staylo> :/
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[08:53] <nosebleedKT> fsphil-laptop
[08:53] <nosebleedKT> http://imagebin.org/173821
[08:53] <nosebleedKT> the new A480 i got from ebay
[08:53] <nosebleedKT> :(
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[08:55] <fsphil-laptop> morning nosebleedKT
[08:57] <nosebleedKT> :(
[08:58] <fsphil-laptop> still loading
[08:59] <fsphil-laptop> that ain't right
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[09:00] <fsphil-laptop> faulty sensor?
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[09:00] <nosebleedKT> yes
[09:01] <nosebleedKT> when exposed to light those vertical lines appear
[09:01] <fsphil-laptop> looks like it got wet
[09:01] <fsphil-laptop> the screen on my a560 went the same way
[09:02] <fsphil-laptop> vertical lines
[09:05] <nosebleedKT> i will return it back i suppose
[09:05] <nosebleedKT> 60euros are to much
[09:07] <fsphil-laptop> yes
[09:08] <nosebleedKT> I hope nothing stupid happens if I tell him to return his cam
[09:08] <fsphil-laptop> fantastic morning in the forest park
[09:08] <nosebleedKT> what?
[09:09] Action: fsphil-laptop is in a tent :)
[09:10] <nosebleedKT> lol
[09:10] <fsphil-laptop> I'm on a gsm connection
[09:11] <fsphil-laptop> it's a bit iffy
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[09:21] <nosebleedKT> iffy
[09:23] <fsphil-laptop> dodgy, unreliable :)
[09:23] <fsphil-laptop> any news on the howest recovery?
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[10:20] <WillDuckworth> just last bit of testing if anyone sees wdhab in the tracker
[10:21] <WillDuckworth> ignore until tomorrow :)
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[12:36] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Empty-bottle-1kg-label-Aluminium-powder-READ-/320689378420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aaa939474#rpdId
[12:36] <SpeedEvil> Silly people.
[12:36] <SpeedEvil> However.
[12:36] <SpeedEvil> Buy, return in as-listed condition for a refund.
[12:39] <polycarbonate1> hahaha
[12:40] <polycarbonate1> win
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[12:42] <polycarbonate1> I almost want to buy that
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[12:46] <Laurenceb> wait what
[12:46] <Laurenceb> "an empty bottle"
[12:46] <polycarbonate1> with a label that weighs 1kg
[12:46] <Laurenceb> are they trying to hint at something
[12:46] <daveake_> :)
[12:47] <Laurenceb> you can get magnesium powder from fireworks
[12:47] <daveake_> I think I'll list something. "Latex balloon. Only used once. Originally 1kg but has been on a diet"
[12:47] <polycarbonate1> Laurenceb: cheaper than a chemist?
[12:47] <polycarbonate1> daveake_: hahahah
[12:48] <Laurenceb> also you can buy aluminium powder and tons of way more explosive stuff if you show id
[12:50] <Laurenceb> its actually quite easy if you go to the right place, big problem in this country is the explosives act suff tho
[12:50] Action: polycarbonate1 nods
[12:50] <Laurenceb> if you want to do anything with solid fuel rockets its best to go to the US
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[13:10] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: Though the outre space act still covers you if you launch into space from the US.
[13:10] <SpeedEvil> If you're in 'control'
[13:10] <Laurenceb> yeah
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[13:11] <SpeedEvil> Oooh.
[13:12] Action: SpeedEvil should submit a freedom of information request to see if there have been any launch requests at all unde rthe outer space act
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[13:24] <Laurenceb> good idea
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[13:48] <Upu> https://picasaweb.google.com/118244444241111963790/AWeekInBorrowdalesSept2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCJjN98Sj0onX1gE#5655904628396842338
[13:48] <Upu> afternoon
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[13:51] <daveake_> Need more saturation in the photo so it brings out the true pink :)
[13:51] <Upu> haha
[13:52] <Upu> totally random that just some bloke calling my name out
[13:52] <daveake_> :)
[13:52] <daveake_> Happened to me once in Germany .. wandering around Rotenburg on holiday when I heard my name called out!
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[15:30] <fsphil> Upu, you went back in time and met a young Roy Walker?
[15:31] <Upu> I'll tell him
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[15:51] <staylo> Say what you see! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQdEY82zs0
[15:52] <daveake> That's a classic :)
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> :)
[15:53] <fsphil> lol!
[15:54] <fsphil> that that actually make it into the show?
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[15:58] <SpeedEvil> It doesn't look that porny if you look at it all
[15:59] <daveake> It's the reveal sequence, of course. I can't believe that wasn't set up in advance :)
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[16:04] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHDDYVUnY6s
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[17:39] <nosebleedKT> Is there any APRS worldwide map ?
[17:39] <SpeedEvil> yes
[17:40] <nosebleedKT> A picture to show the coverage I mean
[17:40] <nosebleedKT> SpeedEvil: point me
[17:40] <SpeedEvil> http://aprs.fi/
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[18:03] <SamSilver> latrer
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[18:04] <fsphil> man, another early launch tomorrow
[18:04] <daveake> Not my fault this time :)
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[18:07] <fsphil> forecast is for some cloud here - I'm interested in seeing if the weather is making any difference to what I receive
[18:09] <daveake> Would be good to know
[18:21] <Upu> launch tommorrow ?
[18:24] <fsphil> wdhab, 8-9am
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[18:25] <fsphil> you still wandering hills?
[18:25] <Upu> wheres that going from ? UK ?
[18:25] <Upu> no I'm back and ready to recieve
[18:25] <fsphil> yea, Ledbury
[18:25] <Upu> a sweet
[18:25] <fsphil> both 434.075 and 434.650
[18:25] <Upu> why 2 frequencies ?
[18:25] <fsphil> two payloads
[18:26] <Upu> under one balloon ?
[18:26] <fsphil> yep
[18:26] <Upu> good backup :)
[18:27] <Upu> whos launching it ?
[18:27] <Upu> Was there a mail ?
[18:27] <fsphil> yep, all on the list
[18:27] <Upu> I'll go have a look
[18:28] <fsphil> WillDuckworth is launching
[18:32] <Upu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp_Fom-kjOk
[18:33] <Upu> should have no issues getting that payload
[18:34] <Upu> haha "8-9am ish balloon time" :)
[18:37] <daveake> I'll set my alarm for 10 then ;)
[18:37] <fsphil> noooooooo
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[18:40] <daveake> This explains a lot - http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v238/37/90/500016964/n500016964_825278_4279.jpg
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[18:54] <Upu> whats latest release version of dl-fldigi still Dl-Fldigi 3.20.34 ?
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[19:21] <griffonbot> @willduckworth: Balloon is go for launch at 8am approx #ukhas [http://twitter.com/willduckworth/status/117679944879964160]
[19:33] <fsphil> v3.20.29.r115 was the last proper release
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[20:11] <Paradoxial> Who owns griffonbot?
[20:13] <DanielRichman> Paradoxial: sbasuita and I wrote it; it's hosted on nessie.habhub.org
[20:16] Nick change: ploc -> pole
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[20:24] <EI5GTB> ohai
[20:25] <Upu> good evening
[20:27] <EI5GTB> whats happening in the land of sky?
[20:27] <Upu> Launches tommorrow if you can listen in, should be able to get it from Donegal
[20:28] <EI5GTB> bit of a change, i'm actually in london atm
[20:28] <Upu> ah ok I was trying to be clever
[20:28] <Upu> you'll still be able to get it from London I suspect :)
[20:28] <Upu> back in 2 mins
[20:29] <EI5GTB> lol, well, that last time i was in this channel i was in donegal, so i'll give it to you :P
[20:32] <Upu> did you come on with your call sign before ?
[20:33] <EI5GTB> yea, would have
[20:33] <Upu> my memory isn't that good anyway welcome back
[20:33] <EI5GTB> lol, its been a while, was in the real world for a while, could be 8 months since i was on irc
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[20:38] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> not so much ballooning mood here tonight?
[20:55] <nosebleedKT> no
[20:55] <nosebleedKT> cause i dont have money
[20:56] <nosebleedKT> really this time !
[20:56] Action: EI5GTB would very much like to get involved in a launch
[20:56] <nosebleedKT> i own my bro 180euro for the balloon+chute. I already took so much money from other people. I cant ask for money anymore. I dont feel comfortable. I will wait until i get a job.
[20:57] <nosebleedKT> my flight is postponed for April 2012 :(
[20:57] <EI5GTB> nosebleedKT where u based?
[20:58] <nosebleedKT> in the worst country ever. GR.
[20:58] <EI5GTB> ireland?
[20:58] <nosebleedKT> greece ?
[20:58] <EI5GTB> haah
[21:10] <fsphil> there've been a few launches in donegal iirc
[21:10] <EI5GTB> oh yea?
[21:11] <EI5GTB> i remember trying to get permission from IAA and Comreg but failed miserably
[21:11] <fsphil> I suspect this person launched anyway, under the radar so to speak :)
[21:11] <EI5GTB> lol, yea, that was my next stage
[21:11] <fsphil> I did ask the IAA aswell, about launching in Donegal
[21:11] <EI5GTB> howd u get on?
[21:11] <fsphil> not very far at all
[21:12] <fsphil> basically they said they'd say no to any request
[21:12] <fsphil> because there where too many
[21:12] <fsphil> and if they allowed one, they'd have to allow them all
[21:12] <fsphil> which is a bit silly really
[21:12] <EI5GTB> too many? christ... i cant imagine there were many requests
[21:13] <fsphil> I wish I'd asked how many they where getting
[21:13] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[21:13] <Lunar_Lander> is the official stuff all in English in the other countries besides england?
[21:13] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: FOIA
[21:13] <fsphil> do they have that in IE though?
[21:14] <Lunar_Lander> I once read about a Welsh level crossing incident where the crossing keeper couldn't understand that much English but only Welsh
[21:14] <fsphil> would be an interesting question
[21:15] <fsphil> EI5GTB, does the EI license permit operating from an aircraft or balloon? Fairly academic question considering the IAA, but I was always curious
[21:15] <Lunar_Lander> does anybody know the answer to my question?
[21:16] <fsphil> Lunar_Lander, maybe a long time ago
[21:17] <EI5GTB> fsphil you need a seperate application for each "aeronautical veichle" you wish to tx from
[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> so today all official things are in English?
[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> or maybe bilingual?
[21:17] <fsphil> Lunar_Lander, bilingual in wales
[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:17] <fsphil> and ireland too
[21:17] <EI5GTB> with no provisions put in place for automated transmissions from said vehicles
[21:17] <fsphil> though not as much as the welsh I don't think
[21:18] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:18] <Lunar_Lander> and scotland?
[21:18] <fsphil> aah, so hab'ing is a no no then
[21:18] <fsphil> that's no fun
[21:18] <fsphil> I thought it was just ofcom that was being silly about the whole thing
[21:19] <EI5GTB> comreg were going to give me permission for 2m 1w and 70cm 500mw (i have the letter here) if i could supply comreg with a letter from the IAA giving permission for the launch
[21:19] <Lunar_Lander> lol, "kirschwasser" is a proper English term?
[21:19] <EI5GTB> and i had the IAA to the point that if i gave them a method statment and a safety statment and a full plan etc they were going to "consider permission"
[21:20] <staylo> Lunar_Lander: By law, all official documents distributed in Wales have to be bilingual.
[21:20] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:23] <EI5GTB> there have been cases in ireland where people have avoided prosecution because laws havn't been in irish as well as english
[21:24] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[21:25] <staylo> Yeah, I'll bet there's been similar things here. On my last road tax renewal application form they managed to get parts of the english form in welsh and vice versa..
[21:27] <EI5GTB> haha
[21:28] <staylo> and this sort of thing occasionally happens: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7702913.stm
[21:29] <fsphil> lol
[21:30] Action: SpeedEvil guesses that's the 'out of office' sign
[21:30] <fsphil> yea
[21:30] <SpeedEvil> ah yes
[21:33] <EI5GTB> time to hit the cot i reckon! GLACK
[21:33] <fsphil> nighters EI5GTB
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[21:43] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9114L8brIcw&feature=player_embedded
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[21:51] <SpeedEvil> Yeah - somewhat silly
[21:52] <SpeedEvil> Needs Moar POWA!
[21:53] <staylo> To a-severed-knee and beyond!
[21:54] <Laurenceb> might work with decent control
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> I don't think it's got enough power to lift off
[21:55] <Laurenceb> it does in that video
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> at least I diddn't see any evidence - I diddn't watch it through
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> ah
[21:55] <Laurenceb> hovering at ~2m
[21:55] <Laurenceb> tied down
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> That's getting close to out of ground effect
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> I'd be interested in flying that.
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> While observing it with binoculars.
[21:55] <Laurenceb> on the previous video 2 motors were powered down
[21:56] <SpeedEvil> p(fail)^8 is a bad place to be though
[21:56] <SpeedEvil> p(notfail)^8 even
[21:57] <Laurenceb> with decent code itd fly with 7 engines i bet
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[21:58] <Laurenceb> someone on RCgroups made a glow engines quadcopter
[21:58] <Laurenceb> using hall effect RPM sensors for feedback
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[22:05] <Lunar_Lander> cool
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[22:12] <Laurenceb> also a V22 osprey iirc
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[22:18] <SpeedEvil> Does it accurately simylate crashing and killing all its crew?
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[23:03] <Laurenceb> lol
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[23:05] <Blackover> Hello!
[23:06] <Blackover> I have a problem with HD video recording o
[23:06] <Blackover> i'm using Kodak Zi-8 with 32 Gb in FAT32 format
[23:07] <SpeedEvil> ?
[23:07] <Blackover> and cause max file lenght for FAT32 is 2 Gb? max lenght video is about 1 hour
[23:08] <Blackover> is 2 Gb, so max lenght video is about 1 hour
[23:08] <Blackover> Anyone have solved this problem?
[23:10] <Lunar_Lander> and NTFS is not good for SD, right?
[23:11] <SpeedEvil> split files
[23:11] <SpeedEvil> Reduce bitrate
[23:11] <Blackover> NTFS is not supported by camera. Only one solution that i have is to use device which is clicking start/stop recording every hour (i will need
[23:12] <Blackover> i will hate rto soldering
[23:12] <Blackover> *have to
[23:13] <Blackover> Do all HD cameras have this bug with 2Gb file lenght?
[23:13] <SpeedEvil> Blackover: solder
[23:14] <SpeedEvil> Blackover: servo rather
[23:14] <SpeedEvil> Blackover: If they don't suppot auto-opening a new file, yes
[23:14] <Wil5on> you can have files over 2gb in fat32
[23:14] <Wil5on> but a lot of cameras dont support it
[23:15] <Wil5on> i have a camera i had to flash the firmware for to get it to continuiously record
[23:15] <Wil5on> and not split the file
[23:15] <Wil5on> maybe thats a possibility with yours
[23:15] <Lunar_Lander> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci3bFOQ-4S4&feature=related
[23:16] <Blackover> and what about gopro hd? Does it support auto-opening a new file or NTFS?
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[23:22] <Blackover> sorry, was disconnected
[23:23] <Blackover> what about hd pro and auto new file?
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[23:41] <Lunar_Lander> good night!
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