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[07:34] <earthshine> o/
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[08:09] <fsphil> morning one and all
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[08:34] <Darkside> morning
[08:35] <daveake> morning
[08:36] <daveake> Get you payload box sorted?
[08:36] <Darkside> yeh
[08:36] <daveake> your
[08:36] <daveake> good :)
[08:36] <Darkside> my gps died tho
[08:36] <daveake> whoops
[08:36] <Darkside> so i've got another one being shipped from sparkfun at top speed
[08:36] <daveake> static? physically broken?
[08:36] <Darkside> static i think
[08:37] <daveake> Bit of concern with the poly foam boxes, I feel
[08:37] <Darkside> yep
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[08:37] <Darkside> ok, better get to uni
[08:38] <Darkside> back on in a bit
[08:38] <daveake> Have fun
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[08:51] <simhed> morning
[08:55] <griffonbot> Received email: imipak "Re: [UKHAS] Digest for ukhas@googlegroups.com - 4 Messages in 3 Topics"
[09:02] <gerontious> morning all
[09:03] <gerontious> just had a look at python for android
[09:03] <gerontious> habitat phones anyone?
[09:05] <gerontious> with a scanner you'd have a handheld tracking solution
[09:05] <gerontious> = win
[09:08] <gerontious> Darkside: what is the best android phone atm?
[09:08] <gerontious> how do you rate yours, for example?
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[09:14] <fsphil> I'd like some pointers for a good android phone too
[09:14] <rjharrison> I like my HTC Desire HD but bat life is a pain
[09:15] <jonsowman> I'm liking my sensation :)
[09:15] <gerontious> i bet you are
[09:15] <jonsowman> :P
[09:16] <gerontious> was looking at a galaxy s2 too
[09:16] <fsphil> heh, someone at microsoft thought it was a good idea to prompt users who can't reboot if they want to reboot - every 30 minutes: http://i.imgur.com/vcUoJ.png
[09:16] Action: SpeedEvil looks at his n950.
[09:17] <fsphil> nokia though
[09:17] <fsphil> dead end
[09:17] <Darkside> so i've done a bit more analysis on my dead gps
[09:17] <Darkside> the ublox chip is still functioning
[09:17] <Darkside> but i think i've killed the RF frontend
[09:17] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: I regret that's probably not false.
[09:17] <Darkside> its outputting serial data, but not getting lock
[09:17] <fsphil> SpeedEvil, me too. I wanted that more than android
[09:17] <Darkside> gerontious: i wuz my android
[09:17] <Darkside> wuv*
[09:18] <Darkside> i have a galaxy S II
[09:18] <gerontious> Darkside: which is it?
[09:18] <gerontious> ok
[09:18] <gerontious> cool
[09:18] <gerontious> yes
[09:18] <gerontious> i liked that one
[09:18] <gerontious> when you were using it on sat
[09:18] <daveake> I don't think you can go wrong with either HTC or Samsung for Android
[09:18] <Darkside> wait
[09:18] <Darkside> who is gerontious
[09:19] <gerontious> scared now huh?
[09:19] <Darkside> ed?
[09:19] Action: fsphil knows :p
[09:19] <gerontious> yes it's me
[09:19] <gerontious> but undercover
[09:19] <daveake> master of disguise?
[09:19] <gerontious> just so happens that the boss is on here
[09:19] <gerontious> every nowe and then
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[09:21] <Darkside> $PUBX,00,000645.00,0000.00000,N,00000.00000,E,0.000,NF,6496210,4593479,0.000,0.00,0.000,,99.99,99.99,99.99,0,0,0*24
[09:21] <Darkside> no lock :(
[09:22] <Darkside> no sats at all
[09:22] <daveake> Does your GPS have an external antenna or built-in one?
[09:23] <Darkside> built in, a sarantel active helix antenna
[09:23] <Darkside> i'm pretty sure i've blown up the LNA in the active antenna
[09:23] <Darkside> or blown up the frontend on the ublox chip
[09:23] <daveake> Ah, OK. If external I was going to suggest it's still supplying power for the active amp
[09:23] <Darkside> either way, i have a new module on the way
[09:23] <daveake> That one got me before!
[09:23] <daveake> Yep
[09:30] <Darkside> oh yeah
[09:30] <Darkside> i was testing out a gps mofule
[09:30] <Darkside> and forgot it had a biased antenna output, for an active antenna
[09:30] <Darkside> i put a 50 ohm load on it
[09:30] <Darkside> >_>
[09:30] <daveake> :)
[09:30] <Darkside> turned it on, watched the current meter go up and up, before i freaked out and turned it off
[09:31] <Darkside> almost drew half an amp
[09:31] <daveake> On mine, antenna power is only supplied if you short a pin to V+. Hadn't spotted that. Waited ages for a lock :(
[09:31] <Darkside> ublox module?
[09:32] <daveake> No - olde Navman Jupiter 11
[09:32] <Darkside> ahh
[09:32] <daveake> Heavy and needs 80mA to run
[09:32] <daveake> Does work above 60k though
[09:33] <Darkside> heh, the module we're using on TOCPAT draws 300mA
[09:34] <Darkside> dual frequency tho
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[09:35] <daveake> Using a Lassen IQ for Buzz1. Small, light and low current
[09:35] <daveake> Slightly less old than the Jupiter :)
[09:35] <fsphil> don't tell nigey
[09:36] <daveake> I'll try not to :)
[09:37] <daveake> Heaviest item is the poly ball I'm building it all in. That'll come down when I start cutting it away of course.
[09:40] <Darkside> i think nigel is ready to murder mr lassen
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[09:45] <fsphil> it does seem to be an unusually deaf receiver
[09:45] <Darkside> gerontious: how fast did that streamliend payload get up to when it was falling?
[09:45] <gerontious> mach 0.8
[09:45] <gerontious> about 250m/s
[09:46] <Darkside> wait
[09:46] <gerontious> that was the trigger dynamic pressure
[09:46] <Darkside> i thought you said they could go faster?
[09:46] <gerontious> i.e. it will still accelerating
[09:46] <gerontious> was*
[09:46] <Darkside> how fast would it get if there was no parachute?
[09:46] <gerontious> they will go supersonic yes, if you leave them
[09:46] <Darkside> cool
[09:46] <Darkside> should do a speed test, over the ocean :P
[09:46] <gerontious> i never properly calculated what terminal v was
[09:47] <Darkside> see how fast it gets to :D
[09:47] <gerontious> but fast
[09:47] <Darkside> any guesses?
[09:47] <gerontious> mach 1.x
[09:47] <gerontious> probably lowish values of x
[09:47] <Darkside> awwwwwww
[09:47] <Darkside> sad
[09:49] <gerontious> let me do some napkin calcs
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[09:53] <gerontious> Darkside: so the equilibrium velocity at 25km is 545m/s
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[09:53] <Darkside> aww
[09:53] <Darkside> thats shit :P
[09:54] <Darkside> i wanted hypersonic speeds
[09:54] <Darkside> hehe
[09:54] <gerontious> which is mach 1.8
[09:54] <gerontious> you'd need a rocket to go hypersonic
[09:54] <gerontious> for sure
[09:55] <gerontious> which incidently is what we're planning on doing :)
[09:55] <daveake> :)
[09:56] <Darkside> heh
[09:56] <gerontious> but yes, it's all about rockets
[09:59] <Darkside> cool
[10:00] <gerontious> employee: 'so does parachute reefing ratio with line lengths vary the CdS because of geometry?' world parachute expert: 'well..... everything varies with everything'
[10:00] <gerontious> that what you want in a technical specialist
[10:01] <gerontious> that's*
[10:01] <gerontious> short and precise and to the point
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[10:02] <Darkside> lol
[10:12] <Upu> hey SpikeUK
[10:12] <Upu> morning all
[10:13] <Upu> are you about ?
[10:16] <rjharrison> Upu, Good email
[10:16] <Upu> hey ROb
[10:16] <Upu> thanks
[10:16] <Upu> Went for the complementary approach :)
[10:17] <rjharrison> Yep normally works best
[10:17] <Upu> and also got a nudge in about Baldersley
[10:17] <gerontious> having trouble with someone?
[10:17] <Upu> nah
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[10:18] <Upu> just trying to get what we want
[10:18] <Upu> :)
[10:18] <Upu> hi there gerontious don't think we've met :)
[10:18] <gerontious> we have
[10:18] <rjharrison> gerontious, but yes that's the one
[10:18] <gerontious> it's ed
[10:18] <Upu> ah
[10:18] <daveake> sshh!
[10:18] <gerontious> just undercover
[10:18] <Upu> why the new name ? :)
[10:18] <Upu> lol
[10:18] <rjharrison> boss
[10:20] <Upu> we are just speaking to David Miller about alternate launch locations
[10:21] <gerontious> cool
[10:22] <Upu> up north
[10:22] <Upu> its far too sunny down there
[10:22] <daveake> :)
[10:22] <rjharrison> BTW Upu we should get Elvington replaced on the pred with the new coords for Baldersley
[10:23] <Upu> yeah we can sort that
[10:23] <rjharrison> If you have them handy I'll roll them in
[10:23] <Upu> 1 sec
[10:23] <Upu> 54.17748, -1.4175
[10:24] <Upu> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=54.17748,+-1.4175&hl=en&ll=54.176926,-1.420629&spn=0.00967,0.01929&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.035373,79.013672&vpsrc=6&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=54.176926,-1.420629&panoid=07ACWSmxSSG78oJzyklvJg&cbp=12,34.78,,0,4.91
[10:28] <rjharrison> bolox permsions
[10:31] <rjharrison> sorted
[10:31] <rjharrison> ls
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[10:35] <Upu> cheers
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[11:16] <daveake> I spy a postie bearing latex :)
[11:17] <rjharrison> lol thats a bad picture
[11:18] <rjharrison> http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTL_ZWwl4mwY5h03zUwFHgmSD3sKh4I3GpEvOoIgee-FliaQhcA
[11:18] <daveake> lol
[11:19] <rjharrison> watch the b & w keys in that prev post
[11:20] <daveake> We do get some strange posties round here ....
[11:21] <fsphil> dammit Jim, I said Royal Mail not Royal Male
[11:23] <rjharrison> lol
[11:23] <daveake> I did wonder when he asked "do you want to see my post?"
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[13:07] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Qs2gFlt-o&feature=related
[13:12] <W0OTM> First look at the first flight vehicle for the BallooMerang project. We are doing flight tests below 30,000ft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shhhxUDPH9I
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[13:15] <SpeedEvil> That's an APRS thingy on the front?
[13:19] <NigelMoby> Pretty cool marshal!
[13:20] <SpeedEvil> Indeed
[13:21] <NigelMoby> Ello speedy
[13:21] <SpeedEvil> Hey.
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[13:28] <NigelMoby> Morning Dan
[13:30] <Dan-K2VOL> morning Nigel
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[13:34] <Laurenceb> http://api.ning.com/files/wvTB1HqiZUhneQ7YEXLJR3Mcsftieab14S3Moqh6CWzLbzLGqCeBNWbJOUMq5puMGMivg-N4vK2ZeV-VV*-0uQ__/161W2242.jpg
[13:34] <Laurenceb> what were they smoking
[13:34] <Laurenceb> yo dawg, we heard you liked modules
[13:35] <Dan-K2VOL> ha
[13:35] <Dan-K2VOL> not a very good solder job on those castellated edges
[13:36] <Dan-K2VOL> a quadcopter autopilot I assume?
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[13:36] <Laurenceb> yes
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[13:38] <Dan-K2VOL> I assume that's not a production model
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[13:55] <SamSilver> LCD all in tracker > http://www.rpc-electronics.com/yagtracker.php
[14:02] <fsphil> aprs though
[14:03] <Darkside> uuurhg
[14:03] <fsphil> wonder if it could be made to decode the ukhas-format
[14:04] <Darkside> just routed a HF transmitter PCB
[14:04] <Darkside> good fun, but tiring
[14:08] <Darkside> the board should provide about 10mW of output power
[14:09] <Darkside> which can then be amplified using whatever
[14:09] <Darkside> it should also provide a square wave output which can be used to drive a chunky class E amplifier
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[15:00] <ruku> O_o; Is that... ...is that a 3x2 header mounted on the edge?
[15:00] <ruku> I've never seen anything like that. XD
[15:03] <Darkside> where?
[15:03] <Darkside> oh, the pcb above
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[15:04] <fsphil> that's cheating
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[15:19] <Dan-K2VOL> lol fsphil yeah that's why I suspected that's a prototype, in addition to the non-soldered castle edge pads and the jumper wire and hot glue
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[15:19] <Dan-K2VOL> and I don't think I'd run traces under screw heads along with ground planes
[15:46] <Laurenceb> http://www.reghardware.com/2011/08/17/peta_infects_phones_with_anti_dogfight_virus/
[15:46] <Laurenceb> When an infected device starts up, Dogbite runs a program called Rabies
[15:46] <Laurenceb> loool
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[18:02] <Laurenceb_> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=342-1054-2-ND
[18:02] <Laurenceb_> interesting
[18:03] <Laurenceb_> you can detect nT fields with that beasty
[18:03] <Darkside> mm?
[18:05] <Dan-K2VOL> negative time?
[18:05] <Dan-K2VOL> :-P
[18:06] <Darkside> nano teslas
[18:11] <BrainDamage> small little tesla clones
[18:12] <Laurenceb_> useful for survey work
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[18:37] <number10> Hi RocketBoy, are you lanching this weekend?
[18:38] <RocketBoy> don't think so
[18:38] <RocketBoy> just taking a look at the f'casts
[18:39] <number10> not looking good
[18:39] <Darkside> ok thats a point
[18:39] <Darkside> better run a prediction for cusf
[18:39] <Darkside> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=677acdc05fad2792de2d1c430675d5877b76f024
[18:39] <Darkside> OMFG
[18:39] <Darkside> i might get mt payload back :P
[18:39] <Darkside> my*
[18:39] <Darkside> though if it floats for a long time, it'll probably land in the ocean
[18:40] <Darkside> also i got the ascent rate wrong
[18:40] <Darkside> ugh
[18:40] <Darkside> NigeyS: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=e18d1a7de7657d24b066a90664d3e40c28152bbf
[18:40] <Darkside> theres youts
[18:40] <Darkside> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=14e745e3bf1eeb4925140b354a16dfff4eb8ef18 <-- mine. YAAAAAAY
[18:41] <k6hx> uh...
[18:41] <k6hx> get your swim fins. :-)
[18:41] <Darkside> i don't mine if i don't get it back
[18:41] <Darkside> it'll be sad and all
[18:41] <Darkside> but oh well
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[18:44] <number10> <RocketBoy> did you cutdown xaben early last weekend?
[18:45] <k6hx> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIJINiK9azc&feature=player_embedded
[18:45] <k6hx> doh. sorry. wrong window. :-)
[18:45] <RocketBoy> number10: nope - it was just a small balloon
[18:45] <RocketBoy> burst at 20500m
[18:46] <RocketBoy> just need to be accurate on burst estimation if you are going to do it that way
[18:46] <number10> I have a lot to learn RocketBoy
[18:47] <number10> I hope you dont mind the questions!
[18:48] <RocketBoy> nope - sensible Qs are always good.
[18:48] <number10> :)
[18:48] <RocketBoy> I prefer to use a cutdown - more controlled - less to chance
[18:50] <number10> can you tell me what parameters determine the cutdown?
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[19:00] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb:the noise is that low?
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[19:03] <Hiena> ' evening!
[19:03] <Laurenceb_> yes
[19:03] <Laurenceb_> - analogue sensor
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[19:04] <W0OTM-M> Howdy
[19:05] <Dan-K2VOL> hola
[19:10] <W0OTM-M> Dan-K2VOL: you see my latest BallooMerang video?
[19:10] <W0OTM-M> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shhhxUDPH9I
[19:14] <Laurenceb_> SpeedEvil: looka like you could get some pretty insnae performance with an all analogue IMU
[19:15] <Laurenceb_> 1nT/sqrt(Hz) from the magnetometer anyway
[19:15] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: I look forward to your implementation of Kalman filtering using veroboard and a pile of 741s
[19:15] <SpeedEvil> It says 50nt/sqrt(hz)
[19:15] <Laurenceb_> hmm where
[19:15] <SpeedEvil> Or am I reading it wrong?
[19:15] <Laurenceb_> nano volts
[19:16] <SpeedEvil> halfway down page 2
[19:16] <SpeedEvil> ah
[19:16] <SpeedEvil> right
[19:17] <Laurenceb_> then apply sensitivity and 5v supply
[19:17] <Laurenceb_> and you get 1nT
[19:17] <SpeedEvil> So that's 50ug /sqrt(hz)?
[19:17] Action: SpeedEvil forgets the conversion from gauss to T
[19:17] <Laurenceb_> 10^-4
[19:17] <SpeedEvil> Is it 10000 gauss = 1T?/
[19:17] <Laurenceb_> yes
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[19:18] <SpeedEvil> I get 5nT noise
[19:18] <Laurenceb_> supply voltage is 5V
[19:18] <SpeedEvil> In principle,youcould apply-say- 100hz to the bridge and improve it that way
[19:19] <SpeedEvil> But the figure is not quoted as Vsupply *50nV/sqrt(Hz)
[19:19] <SpeedEvil> It states 5v
[19:19] <Laurenceb_> i suspect its thermal noise
[19:19] <Laurenceb_> yes, but the sensitivity needs to be scaled by 5 times
[19:19] <SpeedEvil> nnmnm mmmjkkk.mm, n nm nb vbcvcvcvcvfffcvcvccvcvcv nbn b n n m, ,mm bv cv cxv xcxxzxsdxcfxcdfgfghhj,m,..,/.///'\\'=[
[19:20] <Laurenceb_> indeed QED
[19:20] <SpeedEvil> ']p;/[;;
[19:20] <SpeedEvil> Oops
[19:20] <SpeedEvil> keyboard vacuuming, which switched back to this window
[19:20] <SpeedEvil> Ah.
[19:20] <SpeedEvil> A flying MAD would be _so_ cool.
[19:20] <SpeedEvil> Kinda tricky to shield the motors though
[19:21] <Laurenceb_> yeah
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[19:21] <Laurenceb_> its very winde bandwidth as well - 0 to 5 MHz
[19:21] <Laurenceb_> maybe it could pick up radio :P
[19:22] <SpeedEvil> Doesn't that imply truly stupid sensitivity if you excite it with a nice 100KHz sine, and do synchronus detection?
[19:22] <BrainDamage> MAD?
[19:22] <SpeedEvil> Magnetic Anomaly DEtector.
[19:22] <BrainDamage> ah
[19:23] <SpeedEvil> Can for example detect where fires have been lit thousands of years ago
[19:23] <SpeedEvil> As the magnetic material cools aligned with the field.
[19:23] <BrainDamage> mmm, maybe having the sensor hanging off a long string could help a bit
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[19:24] <Darkside> will it detect the currents from the output voltages it produces?
[19:24] <SpeedEvil> Probably, if not careful.
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[19:29] <Hiena> Ehehe... I always liked how casual was the moon missions at some points. Apollo11:
[19:29] <Hiena> Houston: Among the large headlines concerning Apollo this morning there's one asking that you watch for a lovely girl with a big rabbit. An ancient legend says a beautiful Chinese girl called Chang-o has been living there for 4000 years. It seems she was banished to the Moon because she stole the pill for immortality from her husband. You might also look for her companion, a large Chinese rabbit, who is easy to spot since he is only
[19:29] <Hiena> standing on his hind feet in the shade of a cinnamon tree. The name of the rabbit is not recorded.
[19:29] <Hiena> Collins: Okay, we'll keep a close eye for the bunny girl.
[19:32] Action: Darkside is listening to BrodyQuest
[19:34] <Hiena> Hmm, anybody has experience with 2.5 meter diameter EUROLITE latex balloons?
[19:37] <Randomskk> diameter is an unusual way to spec a latex balloon, it seems
[19:38] <Hiena> Not for a partyshop.
[19:38] <Dan-K2VOL> also what is that diameter, the burst diameter?
[19:38] <Randomskk> ah. fair enough.
[19:41] <Upu> Jonathan Pelham / Gregory Tomlin / Martin Sweeney here ?
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[19:43] <Laurenceb_> http://datenform.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/rotterdam-atm-650x420.jpg
[19:43] <Laurenceb_> this looks legit
[19:44] <Upu> lol
[19:45] <Hiena> Dan-K2VOL: Dunno. I guess, it is. 5 USD/pcs so it's worth a try.
[19:52] <Hiena> Also, got some mails about the drop tests. Seems the university will sponsor the helium and the army provide the field. If we could agree with the green guys, we could launch a HAB too.
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[20:01] <W0OTM-M> OH NO, fsphil
[20:01] <W0OTM-M> lmao
[20:02] <fsphil-laptop> that's Mr.fsphil :)
[20:03] <fsphil-laptop> you launching W0OTM-M?
[20:07] <W0OTM-M> Yeah
[20:07] <W0OTM-M> doing BalloonMerang tests flightd
[20:07] <W0OTM-M> flights*
[20:07] <fsphil-laptop> excellent
[20:07] <fsphil-laptop> streaming it?
[20:07] <W0OTM-M> maybe :)
[20:07] <W0OTM-M> public launch yet this fall for sure
[20:07] <fsphil-laptop> lol
[20:08] <W0OTM-M> ive been things pretty tight lipped
[20:08] <W0OTM-M> been keeping things*
[20:08] <Darkside> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygI-2F8ApUM
[20:09] <Darkside> that music is my new alarm tone
[20:14] Nick change: Elwell_ -> Elwell
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[20:24] <Laurenceb_> midi much
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[20:25] <Darkside> heh
[20:25] <Darkside> its a classic tho
[20:25] <Darkside> absolute classic
[20:26] <Darkside> also: LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjBjtktLT9U&feature=player_embedded
[20:26] <Darkside> warning: ponies
[20:27] <Laurenceb_> looool
[20:27] <Darkside> thats very very well done :P
[20:28] <Darkside> very very very well done :P
[20:30] <hibby> ponies!
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[20:30] <hibby> making everything 20% cooler
[20:30] <Darkside> yep
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[20:32] <Laurenceb_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-oxLOZBhk
[20:32] <Laurenceb_> ah i think i understand now
[20:33] <Darkside> hahaha
[20:33] <Darkside> yes
[20:33] <Darkside> i've seen that
[20:33] <Laurenceb_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-oxLOZBhk&feature=player_detailpage#t=50s
[20:33] <Laurenceb_> lool
[20:34] <Darkside> Eeyu[p
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[20:34] <hibby> It's a bit like more socially acceptable furries
[20:35] <hibby> Laurenceb_: that's awesome
[20:35] <Laurenceb_> i know, im going to follow their videos to learn about all the issues that matter
[20:38] <hibby> Remember ponies Haters gonna hate, Ponies gonna pwn.
[20:38] <Laurenceb_> odd - supposed to have switched to digital tv, theres still 4 channels here
[20:38] <Laurenceb_> they just moved frequency
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[20:43] <hibby> lol
[20:45] <hibby> seen the mlp tattoos?
[20:45] <hibby> there's loads of them
[20:45] <hibby> I actually saw a woman with old-style mlp tattoos at the weekend
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[20:58] <hibby> lol, there's a "stonies" group on reddit
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[20:58] <Darkside> lol
[21:00] <hibby> also, brogrammers, lol.
[21:03] <hibby> Pinkie High, rainbow hash, etc/etc/
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[22:11] <hibby> http://cdn1.dailybooth.com/16/pictures/large/f1f8288f432481eea393de23054c3b04_15836514.jpg yeah boy :)
[22:12] <NigeyS> :p
[22:13] Action: fsphil-laptop blows a bubble
[22:16] <hibby> http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7897/doubtt.jpg
[22:16] <NigeyS> lol bored ?
[22:16] <hibby> http://bit.ly/hibapp
[22:16] <hibby> http://bit.ly/hibdap
[22:16] <hibby> nah, these are old
[22:17] <fsphil-laptop> either that or you shaved really quickly
[22:17] <hibby> haha
[22:17] <hibby> and cut my hair
[22:17] <hibby> and got a a good blurry background, lol
[22:21] <hibby> the hibby approves one was just after mrs h had had a fall out at me
[22:21] <hibby> all I could think to say was "lol"
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[22:53] <NigeyS> nn peeps
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