highaltitude.log.20110730

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[01:19] <griffonbot> @LVL1WhiteStar: Balloon up in @theHenryFord ! Will calibrate up and down motion tomorrow starting at 6:30 am. #UKHAS #arhab http://t.co/QmEXJvo [http://twitter.com/LVL1WhiteStar/status/97113949669036032]
[01:28] <griffonbot> @Greendrv: RT @LVL1WhiteStar: Balloon up in @theHenryFord ! Will calibrate up and down motion tomorrow starting at 6:30 am. #UKHAS #arhab http:/ ... [http://twitter.com/Greendrv/status/97116348181778433]
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[01:36] <griffonbot> @LVL1HackerSpace: RT @LVL1WhiteStar: Balloon up in @theHenryFord ! Will calibrate up and down motion tomorrow starting at 6:30 am. #UKHAS #arhab http:/ ... [http://twitter.com/LVL1HackerSpace/status/97118432281112576]
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[06:22] <UpuMobile> morning all
[06:25] <mattltm> morning Upu. Good luck today :)
[06:27] <UpuMobile> should be fun :)
[06:27] <UpuMobile> just in the hotel now
[06:27] <mattltm> cool. Still on for 11am?
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[06:31] <UpuMobile> ish
[06:31] <UpuMobile> all depends I'll try give updates from launch site
[06:34] <mattltm> Sounds good :)
[06:35] <UpuMobile> just wait till you see the payloads
[06:36] <UpuMobile> they are ... different
[06:36] <SamSilver> *waiting
[06:37] <UpuMobile> I don't have pics at the moment
[06:37] <UpuMobile> but as soon as I do :)
[06:37] <SamSilver> thanx
[06:38] <SamSilver> saw Darkside's payload and bag
[06:38] <UpuMobile> oh trust me
[06:38] <UpuMobile> this is like nothing you've ever seen
[06:40] <UpuMobile> ok I'm off to get some breakfast
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[06:49] <natrium42> morning
[06:50] <natrium42> UpuMobile: shall i change tracker title, or do you have access?
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[07:18] <UpuMobile> if you would pls natrium42
[07:20] <UpuMobile> hey its rob here
[07:21] <UpuMobile> natrium42 can we make spacenear.us look like www.robertharrison.org/tracker
[07:22] <UpuMobile> I'm going to change the canary to budgie via the listener but that shouldn't make any difference to the tracker
[07:25] <SamSilver> bbn
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[07:35] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: Payloads like you've never seen before #ukhas http://t.co/lHppNwj [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/97208585435627520]
[07:36] <mattltm> Nice :)
[07:40] <UpuMobile> anyone about who can paste me a valid checksummed telemetry string please ?
[07:41] <mattltm> This any good?
[07:41] <mattltm> $$STaTBOUY_1,2,20:28:35,51.27449,0.48883,63,22.12,-127.00,-127.00,0*BD1C
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[07:44] <UpuMobile> thx
[07:45] <SamSilver> UpuMobile: have you posted a pic of payload yet ... I was away for bit, from work to home. No rush but right away would be good! :-p
[07:45] <mattltm> SamSilver: http://yfrog.com/h8vibxvej
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[07:45] <SamSilver> thanx mattltm
[07:46] <mattltm> At least they should help keep the payload warm :)
[07:46] <UpuMobile> ok back later
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[07:49] <SamSilver> I can't make head or tail of that payload!
[07:50] <number10> mm fldigi on windows 7 doesn't seem to work if u select HAB mode
[07:50] <SamSilver> Oh I get it two payloads budgie and cat
[07:51] <SamSilver> afk
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[08:05] <number10> anyone have problems with fldigi 3.20.39 on vista
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[08:11] <number10> git booted
[08:11] <number10> got
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[08:14] <UpuMobile> on the way to ears now
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[08:14] <number10> I tried uninstalling and re-installing fldigi 3.20.29 still hangs (windows 7) :(
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[08:30] <fsphil> number10, define hangs?
[08:31] <number10> windows reported not working - unhandled exception - I deleted all the related files in my login and retarted now ok - thanks fsphil
[08:32] <number10> hopefully it wont do it again
[08:33] <fsphil> ah yea, fldigi will crash if there's an option in the config file that doesn't make sense (from a newer version for example)
[08:33] <fsphil> they don't do enough checks
[08:34] <number10> I wonder if it was mcaffee asking me if I should run the program on startup
[08:34] <fsphil> I've never been a fan of mcaffee .. if it's on there, it's normally the first thing I disable when testing a PC :)
[08:35] <fsphil> that and norton
[08:35] <number10> I am beginning to wonder about it
[08:35] <fsphil> although it shouldn't have done anything to this -- fldigi has no on-startup bits
[08:36] Action: fsphil looks outside
[08:36] <daveake> mcafee and norton cause more problems than they solve, IMO
[08:36] <fsphil> eeek! it's that bright yellow thing again!
[08:36] <number10> lol
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[08:37] <Darkside> who's launching xaben?
[08:37] <fsphil> oh yea, launches today
[08:37] <fsphil> better get ready
[08:37] <Darkside> its on the tracker
[08:37] <number10> may try and track balloon - I wonder if my wife wants to trek around the coutry
[08:37] <Darkside> could someone clear the tracker?
[08:37] <number10> is there a link Darkside
[08:37] <Darkside> spacenear.us/tracker/
[08:37] <number10> ta
[08:38] <fsphil> Darkside, not sure what's up with xaben -- I know there are two other launches today, at 11:00
[08:38] <fsphil> love the payloads UpuMobile
[08:38] <Darkside> ahh ok
[08:38] <UpuMobile> morning
[08:38] <UpuMobile> nice day here at ears
[08:38] <fsphil> oh, UpuMobile -- the email said the settings where both Icarus, but are they both transmitting the icarus callsign?
[08:39] <Darkside> oh god what are those payloads
[08:39] <fsphil> lol
[08:40] <UpuMobile> fsphil no refresh payloads
[08:40] <UpuMobile> cat and canary
[08:40] <fsphil> aah sweet
[08:40] <UpuMobile> anyone on local cambridge repeater we are listening
[08:40] <fsphil> echolink?
[08:42] <UpuMobile> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ukhas
[08:43] <daveake> I'm watching you from sunny Finland :)
[08:43] <fsphil> yay
[08:44] <daveake> Lots of walking around and staring going on!
[08:44] <fsphil> that pretty much sums up my launches too lol
[08:44] <fsphil> I better go and face these spiders in the attic and setup this rig
[08:44] Action: fsphil gets the tennis bat
[08:45] <fsphil> or racquet if your all fussy and prefer the actual name for things
[08:46] <fsphil> hello UpuMobile
[08:47] <UpuMobile> hello :)
[08:47] <UpuMobile> phil
[08:47] <fsphil> you've got us into your car, and are now showing us dust tape
[08:47] <fsphil> this is not good :p
[08:47] <UpuMobile> check this
[08:47] <daveake> That's a big roll of pink gaffer tape!
[08:47] <fsphil> wow
[08:48] <fsphil> anti-tree device!
[08:48] <daveake> That's a big one
[08:49] <SamSilver> is there sound on the ustream feed?
[08:49] <UpuMobile> you jelly ? :
[08:49] <UpuMobile> )
[08:49] <UpuMobile> can be
[08:49] <fsphil> looks to be a tad taller than the 10m pole I have
[08:50] <fsphil> (which is now about 30cm shorter after the recovery attempt -- a bit of it is still in that tree :)
[08:50] <UpuMobile> any sound ?
[08:50] <fsphil> the sound icon appeared in the video player, but I can't hear anything
[08:50] <fsphil> just static
[08:50] <UpuMobile> never monfd
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[08:52] <fsphil> breakfast time
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[08:53] <daveake> I've gotta get me one of those poles :-)
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[09:00] <UpuMobile> still all workikng ?
[09:01] <SamSilver> yip all good upu
[09:01] <SamSilver> sound?
[09:02] <UpuMobile> NO SOUND
[09:02] <SamSilver> green T shirt is upu?
[09:02] <UpuMobile> rgr
[09:02] <fsphil> woo, toast and a bun, nice brekky
[09:03] <SamSilver> who else is there?
[09:03] <fsphil> think rob's in there somewhere
[09:04] <SamSilver> yes
[09:04] <SamSilver> at first glance it looks like a buch of preverts
[09:05] <SamSilver> bunch even
[09:05] <SamSilver> getting kinky in the woods
[09:05] <daveake> prevert? ;-) Is that a pervert in training?
[09:06] <SamSilver> early stages of messing with feathers
[09:06] <SamSilver> lol
[09:06] <fsphil> lol
[09:06] <fsphil> "If you go down to the woods today..."
[09:07] <fsphil> oooh what's up on yonder pole!
[09:07] <fsphil> aah perspective
[09:07] <fsphil> it's not a pole, its a tiny mag mount antenna
[09:08] <fsphil> either that or UpuMobile is a giant
[09:09] <daveake> ".OK, one last time. These are small... but the ones out there are far away."
[09:09] <fsphil> lol
[09:09] <fsphil> classic
[09:09] <daveake> Indeed :)
[09:11] <SamSilver> cat on tracker
[09:11] <fsphil> meow
[09:12] <fsphil> natrium42, can you change the tracker topic if you're about?
[09:14] <daveake> So, I've got one screen here tracking "cat", and another screen tracking 100-odd WRC cars including the "Catwees" one - http://www.flickr.com/photos/11300810@N03/2987157513 :-)
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[09:15] <fsphil> hopefully the cat won't wee when it's at altitude
[09:15] <fsphil> now there's something I never expect to type into a computer
[09:15] <daveake> lol
[09:16] <daveake> Hopefully catwees won't leave the ground, by much anyway
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[09:16] <Darkside> oh so THATS what they are
[09:16] <daveake> Lots of jumps in the Finland rally, but we only track longitude and latitude!
[09:16] <fsphil> morning jcoxon n' Rob_M0DTS
[09:16] <jcoxon> evening for me
[09:16] <Rob_M0DTS> mornin all
[09:16] <Darkside> a cat and a canary
[09:17] <daveake> afternoon here :)
[09:17] <fsphil> I bet they launch canary first
[09:18] <fsphil> I just hope they call the chase car "Dog"
[09:18] <UpuMobile> natrium42 online ?
[09:18] <fsphil> doesn't seem to be UpuMobile
[09:19] <fsphil> jcoxon, can you change the tracker title?
[09:19] <UpuMobile> also jcoxon
[09:19] <daveake> "dog has chased cat which is now up a tree"
[09:19] <UpuMobile> rjharrison is hungover
[09:19] <fsphil> not the T word daveake !
[09:19] <UpuMobile> we need an urgent code change
[09:19] <daveake> Ah sorry, won't do it again :)
[09:20] <daveake> Finland is just full of t........tall green things
[09:20] <daveake> Video stream is off
[09:20] <UpuMobile> yes we've been asked to turn it off
[09:20] <fsphil> pesky bbc
[09:21] <daveake> Do Sky have the rights now?
[09:21] <fsphil> pay-per-view hab launching
[09:21] <jcoxon> what do you want it changed to?
[09:21] <daveake> lol
[09:21] <UpuMobile> hi jcoxon
[09:21] <UpuMobile> we can't change canary hardware
[09:21] <UpuMobile> but it needs to appear on the map as budgie
[09:21] <UpuMobile> !!
[09:22] <UpuMobile> rob tried to change it this morning but it's not working
[09:22] <UpuMobile> can you do it ?
[09:22] <jcoxon> i can try
[09:23] <jcoxon> please remember i've just finished a 13hr shift though :-p
[09:23] <jcoxon> might take me some time
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[09:23] <fsphil> would it be easier to change it on the view.php page, rather than the tracker?
[09:24] <UpuMobile> you're in a better state than rob :)
[09:28] <UpuMobile> canary is transmitting at the moment
[09:29] <fsphil> okie, better get the rig setup for real this time
[09:29] <daveake> Got both on the map here
[09:30] <daveake> Did you bury canary earlier? ;-)
[09:30] <fsphil> it has risen! muhahaha
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[09:31] <jcoxon> you guys owe me
[09:31] <NigelMoby> Morning
[09:31] <fsphil> smooooth
[09:31] <daveake> Beautiful plumage!
[09:32] <NigelMoby> What time is Robbie launching?
[09:32] <fsphil> shortly
[09:32] <NigelMoby> Yey
[09:32] <fsphil> just hope it's a balloon
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[09:32] <UpuMobile> cheers much appreciated
[09:32] <NigelMoby> We got rain :(
[09:32] <UpuMobile> rob syas thx
[09:33] <UpuMobile> can we reset it all and put the right name on it pls
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[09:35] <jcoxon> UpuMobile, what d oyou want there?
[09:35] <jcoxon> that was my original q
[09:35] <UpuMobile> Sorry
[09:35] <UpuMobile> quite hard to see the screen
[09:35] <UpuMobile> same as whats on www.robertharrison.org/tracker
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[09:39] <jcoxon> done
[09:39] <jcoxon> and loading up the live predicitions
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[09:40] <jcoxon> hmm i think noaa are down
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[09:42] <Darkside> waaaait
[09:42] <Darkside> james may?
[09:42] <Darkside> serious
[09:43] <Darkside> also wheres the live stream link
[09:43] <Darkside> nvm
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[09:43] <jcoxon> okay - can't seem to get the gfs set
[09:44] <jcoxon> bbl
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[09:44] <Darkside> so james may is there?
[09:44] <Darkside> >_>
[09:46] <Darkside> live stream is down :<
[09:48] <daveake> Is that a chase car or the Tardis? ;)
[09:49] <UpuMobile> yes he is
[09:49] <number10> where can I see the predictions?
[09:50] <NigeyS> james may?
[09:50] <NigeyS> eh?
[09:50] <fsphil> oooh payloads have moved
[09:50] <daveake> Is Stiggy driving one of the chase cars? ;)
[09:50] <fsphil> haha
[09:50] <NigeyS> lmao
[09:51] <fsphil> wonder when the series is being aired.. the last one was great
[09:51] <UpuMobile> still on grounf
[09:51] <NigeyS> what series?
[09:51] <fsphil> Man Lab
[09:51] <fsphil> horrible name lol
[09:51] <fsphil> but good show
[09:51] <NigeyS> ahh that was cool !
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[09:52] <fsphil> last prediction I saw was http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=c0e97b09f6dcd9a46ee43f55fcf141b1448e0cf7
[09:53] <number10> thanks fsphil
[09:55] <UpuMobile> ok attaching chutes
[09:55] <NigeyS> :)
[09:56] <daveake> :)
[09:56] <NigeyS> so is the cat gonna chase the budgie? :p
[09:58] <UpuMobile> jcoxon gone ?
[09:58] <NigeyS> yeah
[09:58] <UpuMobile> damn
[09:58] <NigeyS> ?
[09:58] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: #ukhas http://t.co/Cs2bN8C [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/97244770258259968]
[10:00] <daveake> This is exciting :)
[10:00] <NigeyS> :D
[10:00] <NigeyS> im sulking today
[10:00] <priyesh> so what exactly is james may doing there?
[10:00] <UpuMobile> filming man lab
[10:01] <priyesh> i assume this is at the hab launch?
[10:01] <UpuMobile> yeah dual
[10:01] <priyesh> :D
[10:01] <priyesh> i hope it gets aired
[10:01] <daveake> or heliumed
[10:01] <NigeyS> lol
[10:01] <priyesh> :P
[10:01] Action: fsphil hands daveake his coat :p
[10:01] <daveake> I'm here all week :)
[10:02] Action: NigeyS wonders if theryre actually launching a cat and a budgie ;)
[10:03] <fsphil> have you seen the payload NigeyS?
[10:03] <NigeyS> nope
[10:03] <fsphil> http://yfrog.com/h8vibxvej
[10:03] <NigeyS> omg lol
[10:03] <UpuMobile> :)
[10:04] <UpuMobile> just doing filmy stuff
[10:04] <UpuMobile> James May is james maying
[10:04] <NigeyS> haha may rocks
[10:04] <NigeyS> check that hammond isnt hiding anywhere ;)
[10:04] <UpuMobile> he's not
[10:04] <fsphil> I don't think they hang out on eachothers shows :)
[10:05] <priyesh> how did bbc find out about the launch?
[10:05] <UpuMobile> they commissioned it
[10:05] <NigeyS> ya never know, and hes only iccle, he could be hiding in a tree or something lol
[10:05] <NigeyS> priyesh, robs done bbc work before
[10:06] <priyesh> oh nice :)
[10:07] <NigeyS> icarus payload in fldigi phil ?
[10:07] <NigeyS> select*+
[10:07] <number10> there are two ballons what one is the largest?
[10:07] <fsphil> NigelMoby, cat or canary
[10:07] <fsphil> er NigeyS ^^
[10:08] <NigeyS> ahh ta, it hadnt refreshed
[10:08] <fsphil> not sure which is which
[10:08] <fsphil> "Cat will be on 434.075 and Canary will be on 434.650."
[10:08] <NigeyS> hope they head south, it they go north, i wont pick either of them up
[10:09] <number10> ta
[10:09] <fsphil> last prediction was north
[10:09] <NigeyS> meh
[10:09] <fsphil> gotta go buy an alternator belt... brb
[10:10] <UpuMobile> if you could pick one and stick to it
[10:10] <UpuMobile> cat is hydrogen
[10:10] <UpuMobile> canary is helium
[10:11] <NigeyS> oki
[10:12] <UpuMobile> going standby for a bit to save battey
[10:13] <daveake> you mean "budgie" :)
[10:13] <NigeyS> oki upu
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[10:13] <NigeyS> Hydrogen .. hmm
[10:14] <number10> there is an easy way to release that one
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[10:18] <NigeyS> A comprehensive study of web users has determined that the dumber you are, the more likely you are to use Microsoft Internet Explorer.
[10:18] <NigeyS> lol
[10:19] <Darkside> oh man
[10:19] <Darkside> james may is there
[10:19] <Darkside> SAY HI FROM SUTRALIA
[10:19] <Darkside> australia*
[10:19] <NigeyS> hey Darkside
[10:19] <Darkside> hey NigeyS
[10:19] <NigeyS> you get back in ure flat yet ?
[10:19] <Darkside> nope
[10:19] <Darkside> at a friends place
[10:19] <NigeyS> :o
[10:20] <Darkside> eeyup
[10:20] <Darkside> not getting back in until sunday night
[10:20] <LazyLeopard> Ho hum. Two balloons to track, and I'm out all day. Have fun folks. ;)
[10:20] <NigeyS> blimey, thats a bit of a wait
[10:20] <Darkside> eeyup
[10:20] <Darkside> sucks
[10:20] <NigeyS> lol have fun LazyLeopard !
[10:20] <Darkside> so whatcha doing today NigeyS ?
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[10:21] <NigeyS> not much, i tried to get transport and failed, so no launch, tomorrow is looking to bad weather wise, so delaying a week, will just work on the ats-1 payload i think
[10:21] <Darkside> ok
[10:21] <Darkside> hmm their live stream is down
[10:22] <Darkside> whyyy
[10:22] <NigeyS> yeah they got told to take it down :(
[10:22] <Darkside> i want to see james may
[10:22] <Darkside> whaaaat
[10:22] <Darkside> seriously
[10:22] <Darkside> wht :<
[10:22] <Darkside> why
[10:22] <NigeyS> prolly cause its being filmed for TV so they dont want early footage leaking out
[10:23] <Darkside> aww ok
[10:27] <NigeyS> so then, bets please, which'll burst first, the He balloon or the H ?
[10:27] <SamSilver> let me find a coin to flip
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[10:27] <NigeyS> lol that was my plan!
[10:27] <UpuMobile> 07
[10:27] <UpuMobile> sealing payloads
[10:28] <NigeyS> yey , wbb upu
[10:28] <SamSilver> heads budgie tails cat makes sence to me
[10:28] <NigeyS> hah!
[10:28] <NigeyS> ill go heads
[10:30] <Darkside> damn, i wish i knew about this launch in advance :P
[10:30] <Darkside> i would have seriously considered tavelling up to cambridge :P
[10:30] <cuddykid> same haha
[10:31] <Darkside> UpuMobile: how is james may?
[10:36] <UpuMobile> filling bALLON
[10:38] <Darkside> wooo
[10:39] <fsphil> ooooh just back
[10:39] <fsphil> two different chemicals!
[10:40] <NigeyS> boom!
[10:40] Action: fsphil puts money on the H2 one exploding :p
[10:40] <NigeyS> lol, bbq'd cat .. mm tasty
[10:41] <fsphil> this should be interesting either way
[10:41] <fsphil> first H2 launch in the UK isn't it?
[10:41] <NigeyS> hmm first 1 ive heard of
[10:42] <fsphil> oh man serious noise on 434.650
[10:42] <fsphil> oh
[10:42] <fsphil> I'm stupid
[10:42] <fsphil> my solar powered paylaod is on 434.650
[10:42] <NigeyS> lol
[10:42] <fsphil> much better!
[10:42] <UpuMobile> ONE BALLOON FILLED
[10:42] <UpuMobile> meh caps
[10:42] <Rob_M0DTS> H2... cool
[10:43] <fsphil> got time to walk the dog
[10:43] <NigeyS> get him a treadmill!
[10:43] <WillDuckworth> you're always walking the dog fsphil
[10:45] <Rob_M0DTS> AMSAT talks are being streamed live on www.batc.tv live events today and tomorrow if anyone is interested in other space/sat stuff.
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[10:48] <Darkside> Rob_M0DTS: are you at the talks?
[10:48] <Darkside> by rights i should be there, i'm working on a UKube-1 payload
[10:48] <Darkside> but i couldn't get there this weekend
[10:49] <Rob_M0DTS> no i'm not there.
[10:50] <Rob_M0DTS> Some interesting talks usually, including UKube ;-)
[10:50] <Darkside> yeah, they'll be talking about the funcube paylosd
[10:51] <Darkside> which is above ours in the stack i think :P
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[10:52] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: 6kg of neck lift yikes #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/97258132325146624]
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[10:52] <Darkside> wow
[10:52] <mattltm_mob> launch delayed
[10:53] <daveake> 6kg - Not going for a height record then?
[10:53] <Darkside> mattltm_mob: are you at cambridge?
[10:53] <mattltm_mob> nope
[10:54] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: Hydrogen balloon inflating #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/97258746081841153]
[10:54] <Darkside> ooo scary
[10:54] <daveake> If they can delay for another 3-4 hours I'll be at the top of a hill (for the WRC stage around the top of a ski jump!)
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[11:00] <fsphil> going for the distance record daveake ? :)
[11:00] <NigeyS> lol
[11:01] <mattltm_mob> has the launch been delayed?
[11:01] <fsphil> we're into bill-time mattltm_mob
[11:01] <daveake> Let's see now ... Ar8000 (probably not the most sensitive) and a rubber duck aerial ... I think not :-)
[11:01] <NigeyS> bill time rocks!
[11:02] <daveake> Wish I'd packed the Yagi now!
[11:02] <NigeyS> daveake, i can track inside with an ft-790 on a whip .. the ar might be ok.... you'd be surprised
[11:02] <daveake> Also there are hundreds of UHF transmitters here!
[11:02] <daveake> I will try!
[11:02] <fsphil> ah, steve randall's car is there
[11:03] <fsphil> dave's pretty far away
[11:03] <NigeyS> steve is there to ?
[11:03] <UpuMobile> hydrogen is limited flow rate
[11:03] <fsphil> understandable
[11:03] <daveake> I'm doing split timings on the final stage - what they call a "power stage" which is live on TV and my kit supplies the split timings that go on TV.
[11:04] <daveake> On the plus side, the stage goes up around the top of a ski jump then back down again, and the split point is just next to the top, near the ski tower
[11:04] <UpuMobile> anyone who can run a prediction pls
[11:04] <UpuMobile> ears
[11:04] <UpuMobile> 6.5 ascent
[11:04] <UpuMobile> 29000 max
[11:04] <daveake> So heightwise it's good :)
[11:04] <UpuMobile> 12:00 utc
[11:04] <UpuMobile> not working from here
[11:05] <NigeyS> its been playing up the last 2 days
[11:05] <fsphil> nor here .. want me to clear the cache?
[11:05] <UpuMobile> pls
[11:05] <Darkside> running on the projethorus predictor
[11:05] <Darkside> downloading wind data
[11:06] <fsphil> no go -- jcoxon did mention that the noaa servers seem to be down
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[11:06] <Darkside> sitting at 10%...
[11:06] <Darkside> wiat
[11:06] <Darkside> 25%
[11:06] <daveake> I'll be next to this --> http://www.panoramio.com/photo/22379885
[11:06] <Darkside> 40%
[11:06] <fsphil> aah maybe they're just slow
[11:06] <UpuMobile> ok cheers
[11:07] <fsphil> my own run is still at 0%
[11:07] <Darkside> 85%
[11:07] <UpuMobile> damn ok
[11:07] <fsphil> oooh so close
[11:07] <Darkside> crap
[11:07] <Darkside> the prediction is screwey
[11:07] <Darkside> http://projecthorus.org/predict/#!/uuid=48a97074d1a35b98dfc98dfb708696e7a7d97a8f
[11:07] <Darkside> ill try hald-degree
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[11:08] <Darkside> now its sitting at 0%...
[11:09] <Darkside> yeah... just sitting at 0%...
[11:09] <Darkside> you have the predictor link now anyway, you can try using that one
[11:10] <fsphil> guess the noaa don't have a backup?
[11:11] <fsphil> oh, 25%
[11:12] <fsphil> and stuck
[11:13] <fsphil> the cat payload appears to be headless
[11:14] <mattltm_mob> lol
[11:14] <fsphil> 40%
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[11:18] <fsphil> not getting past 40
[11:18] <fsphil> %
[11:19] <fsphil> oh, 55%
[11:19] <fsphil> this is painful
[11:20] <NigeyS> i left mine for an hour yesterday and it was still only on 75%
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[11:22] <fsphil> oh, 70%
[11:22] <fsphil> this is exciting now :p
[11:22] <NigeyS> gettin there lol
[11:22] <fsphil> bet it doesn't work after all this
[11:22] <NigeyS> grr someone squished my milky way :@
[11:23] <fsphil> noooooooooooooooooOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:23] <GW8RAK> Afternoon all, what's new. Delayed launch?
[11:23] <NigeyS> criminal that is, never squish a milkyway!
[11:23] <fsphil> indeedy GW8RAK
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[11:23] <GW8RAK> Been outside making aerial mastt
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[11:23] <fsphil> two payloads still on the ground
[11:23] <GW8RAK> Just come in to cool off.
[11:23] <fsphil> launching at 13:00 BST now I think
[11:23] <GW8RAK> Mast has taken 15 years to make.
[11:23] <fsphil> yikes
[11:24] <GW8RAK> Let sycamore sapling take root, don't dig it up. When right size, prune off all branches, kill the stump and there's a ready made 8m mast.
[11:25] <GW8RAK> All ready for a 4m long colinear
[11:25] <fsphil> not better to keep it alive? then your mast gets a bit bigger each year!
[11:26] <fsphil> ah ha! http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=e8a6a96bf2ea230150ed1f9c6ac9256957ece363
[11:26] <fsphil> and it even makes sense
[11:26] <GW8RAK> It's already a bit too big to get up into it easily. Any more and it'd be too big, too near the house.
[11:26] <fsphil> aah
[11:26] <fsphil> yea don't want a big tree near a building
[11:27] <fsphil> I planted a tree in the garden about three years ago
[11:27] <GW8RAK> The garden is surrounded on 2 sides by 20m tall trees
[11:27] <fsphil> it's about 3m tall now
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[11:27] <fsphil> payload catching device
[11:28] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: Helium 1/2 full #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/97267368073506816]
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[11:31] Action: fsphil is passing the time with a laser and a cat
[11:31] <GW8RAK> Don't burn him!
[11:32] Action: fsphil is now passing the time with a laser
[11:32] <NigeyS> lol
[11:32] <GW8RAK> Burnt the cat, so now you're going to burn yourself
[11:33] <NigeyS> oo phil have you seen lvl1's new toy ?
[11:34] <fsphil> nopes
[11:34] <NigeyS> Full spectrum 40watt CO2 laser
[11:34] <NigeyS> http://www.lvl1.org/
[11:34] <fsphil> how much is a flight over?
[11:34] <NigeyS> they did qr codes cut into icing on a tiny biscuit!
[11:34] <Darkside> is lvl1 the london hackerspacE?
[11:35] <fsphil> haha, giant laser and the first thing they do is burn barcodes into a biscuit
[11:35] <NigeyS> no, its the 1 that whitestar attend
[11:35] <Darkside> ahh
[11:35] <Darkside> US
[11:35] <NigeyS> yup, amazes me how pupular the hackspaces are in the U.S .. i'd never heard of one until i joined this channel a year ago :|
[11:35] <priyesh> hold on.. is it budgie or canary? i'm confused :P
[11:36] <NigeyS> its a err.. identity crisis
[11:36] <daveake> ex parrot
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[11:36] <fsphil> was canary, is now budgie
[11:36] <NigeyS> lol
[11:36] <fsphil> still calls itself canary
[11:36] <NigeyS> it morphed!
[11:36] <fsphil> but it's really a sparrow
[11:36] <daveake> beautiful plumage
[11:36] <NigeyS> haha half way thrugh the flight it will become a chicken
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[11:37] <rjharrison_eee> 66% full
[11:37] <NigeyS> phil, how does your cat react to foil balloons?
[11:37] <rjharrison_eee> zzz
[11:37] <NigeyS> lol rob, slow going eh
[11:37] <rjharrison_eee> <- Upu
[11:37] <NigeyS> see another identity crisis
[11:38] <daveake> lol
[11:38] <NigeyS> its catching
[11:38] <NigeyS> so why the really slow fill with H ?
[11:38] <rjharrison_eee> yeah
[11:38] <rjharrison_eee> ?did the twit pic come through
[11:39] <NigeyS> that minimises "accidents" i assume ?
[11:39] <NigeyS> no no twitpic ..
[11:39] <rjharrison_eee> Randomskk: there ?
[11:39] <fsphil> rjharrison_eee, did you get the prediction?
[11:39] <rjharrison_eee> yes
[11:40] <fsphil> you forgot the hashtag
[11:40] <fsphil> for the pic
[11:40] <Darkside> link the pic fsphil
[11:40] <fsphil> oh wait you didn't
[11:40] <fsphil> http://yfrog.com/kjzhpzrj
[11:41] <Darkside> oh that one
[11:41] <Darkside> yeah i saw that
[11:41] <rjharrison_eee> any one want to qsy to gb3pi
[11:42] <rjharrison_eee> camb repeater
[11:42] <fsphil> haha, 3 pi .. 3.141...
[11:42] <rjharrison_eee> lol
[11:42] <fsphil> unfortunately too far for me
[11:43] <rjharrison_eee> there is internet radio
[11:43] <NigeyS> number10 can reach that repeater i think
[11:43] <fsphil> ooh yea maybe I can hear it
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[11:43] <fsphil> the chase car is moving
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[11:43] <number10> not sure
[11:44] <rjharrison_eee> number10: give it a go if you like
[11:44] <rjharrison_eee> 144.750 ctcss 77.0
[11:44] <Darkside> ok im going for a walk, back later guys
[11:45] <Randomskk> rjharrison_eee: yes, hi
[11:45] <NigeyS> ttyl Darkside
[11:46] <rjharrison_eee> hi Randomskk u going to call on gb3pi
[11:46] <number10> sorry chaps - misunderstanding I think - I only have rx
[11:46] <Randomskk> rjharrison_eee: not in cambridge atm, back home
[11:47] <rjharrison_eee> ahh
[11:47] <Randomskk> sadly I don't think I can reach it from surrey :P
[11:47] <Rob_M0DTS> no lift off yet?
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[11:48] <NigeyS> still filling
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[11:49] <Rob_M0DTS> ah ok, are they making the H2 from water?!
[11:49] <rjharrison_eee> ok hydrogen is nearly rthere
[11:53] <fsphil> on global tuners, no radio is all that nearby
[11:55] <fsphil> I was on the wrong frequency
[11:55] <rjharrison_eee> hydrogen filled
[12:00] <rjharrison_eee> tying off balloons
[12:00] <GW8RAK> Another busy day on 70cms here. Not a single qso anywhere.
[12:01] <fsphil> I've never heard anyone on 70cm, apart from the one repeater
[12:01] <fsphil> and the odd satellite
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[12:03] <Rob_M0DTS> 70cm is very quiet here too apart from tuesday contest evenings!
[12:03] <kristianpaul> http://r0ket.badge.events.ccc.de/
[12:03] <fsphil> oh yea the contest -- I heard a voice during the contest, but not strong ehough to make out
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[12:05] <GW8RAK> Contesters should get extra points for contacts made outside a contest on the quieter bands. Encourage a bit more activity
[12:06] <fsphil> good idea
[12:06] <rjharrison_eee> 20 mins..,
[12:06] <GW8RAK> Just time for lunch
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[12:07] <fsphil> I suspect these balloons will not get high enough for me to receive properly
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[12:08] <rjharrison_eee> ok launch anytime
[12:09] <fsphil> suddenly very dark here
[12:09] <Rob_M0DTS> very cloudy here but warm
[12:12] <fsphil> hehe, forgot I had the amsat stream on in the background, was wondering why my computer suddenly started talking to me
[12:13] <griffonbot> @LVL1WhiteStar: RT @hibbie: Leaving for the first meeting with @LVL1WhiteStar the #ukhas transatlantic mashup in Detroit. [http://twitter.com/LVL1WhiteStar/status/97278688630026240]
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[12:16] <fsphil> cat's away
[12:16] <WillDuckworth> out of the bag eh?
[12:17] <fsphil> +5 points to WillDuckworth!
[12:17] <NigeyS> heh
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[12:18] <NigeyS> 8m/s :o
[12:19] <fsphil> no movement from budgie
[12:19] <rjharrison_eee> launch
[12:19] <rjharrison_eee> ed
[12:22] <NigeyS> hm prod the budgie
[12:24] <Rob_M0DTS> partial decodes already here.
[12:24] <fsphil> I've got a signal that is moving around like a payload -- but it couln't possibly be
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[12:25] <Rob_M0DTS> there is some tropo ducting about so possibly.
[12:26] <Zuph> Good morning Live from Makerfaire, in Detroit, MI
[12:26] <GW8RAK> Is cat .075 or .650?
[12:26] <NigeyS> ive got something faint on .650
[12:27] <WillDuckworth> from site: Dual Payload Cat & Canary. 434.075/434.650
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[12:27] <Rob_M0DTS> .075
[12:27] <UpuMobile> yo
[12:27] <fsphil> ah they're both up on the tracker
[12:27] <NigeyS> yo upu
[12:27] <fsphil> side by side
[12:27] <UpuMobile> we are mobile
[12:28] <fsphil> Rob_M0DTS, what dial freq.?
[12:28] <Rob_M0DTS> ah yes 650 and 075 are getting stronger.
[12:28] <Rob_M0DTS> 074 and 650.8
[12:28] <UpuMobile> check that ascent rate
[12:28] <GW8RAK> The radio horizon is just on top of me now and there definitely seems to be something there.
[12:29] <GW8RAK> But then it goes until 11km or so
[12:29] <fsphil> could be the payload I'm seeing .. but can't see anything on 434.075
[12:30] <Rob_M0DTS> ok both same strength here.
[12:30] <fsphil> brb, starting lunch :)
[12:30] <GW8RAK> .0756 here
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[12:35] <UpuMobile> fast ascent this
[12:35] <NigeyS> yip
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[12:37] <UpuMobile> hi rob
[12:37] <UpuMobile> fast ascent
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[12:38] <UpuMobile> for the record Three is better than Vodaphone
[12:38] <GW8RAK> Identifiable RTTY on .651
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[12:41] <UpuMobile> sorry was tuned into wrong payload
[12:42] <NigeyS> blimet 9.2m/s still
[12:42] <NigeyS> blimey*
[12:44] <UpuMobile> yeah
[12:44] <UpuMobile> they are overfilled
[12:44] <GW8RAK> This is the lowest I've ever got a packet correct.
[12:46] <number10> wish I could get this fldigi working - I can hear the signal
[12:46] <fsphil> mmm egg dippies
[12:46] <fsphil> number10, I thought you got it working?
[12:46] <number10> its running
[12:47] <number10> I think I have problems with line in possibly
[12:47] <number10> or settings
[12:47] <number10> can see two lines on waterfall
[12:48] <fsphil> that's what you'd expect
[12:48] <number10> not decoding - dont know if I am overloading the line input
[12:49] <number10> I have llots of noise
[12:49] <fsphil> you should get fragments of the lines, even with noise
[12:49] <fsphil> the lines on the waterfall should be yellow
[12:50] <Darkside> aha cool! launch!
[12:50] <fsphil> hehe, payload's over Melbourn
[12:50] <Darkside> >_>
[12:50] <Darkside> oh, -e
[12:50] <number10> yep they are
[12:50] <fsphil> hehe, yep
[12:50] <GW8RAK> Just found why no audio below 1KHz
[12:50] <fsphil> Meldreth -- sounds like a character from Merlin
[12:50] <Darkside> fast ascent
[12:51] <GW8RAK> Now getting strings on canary
[12:52] <fsphil> no sign here
[12:53] <UpuMobile> canary seems stronger
[12:53] <Darkside> i wish i had my scanner...
[12:53] <UpuMobile> but they are almost next to each other
[12:53] <GW8RAK> Lot of rapid oscillation on canary
[12:53] <Darkside> spinning?
[12:54] <GW8RAK> Same on cat
[12:54] <GW8RAK> Can decode cat, but not canary
[12:55] <fsphil> should be hearing it here shortly
[12:55] <UpuMobile> probably
[12:56] <number10> ot id rtty 50 / 425 any other settings i need
[12:56] <fsphil> number10, if you select the payload from the drop-down list and press'autoconfigure' it should do all the settings automatically
[12:56] <UpuMobile> I can hear that
[12:56] <fsphil> (assuming you're running dl-fldigi)
[12:56] <number10> ok i'll try
[12:57] <fsphil> receiving now
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[12:59] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: Are maximal length 'gold codes' - shift register + xor in addition to not correlating over their whole length more or less spectrally flat when you take the fft?
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[13:00] <number10> its damn pc
[13:01] <number10> can decode on otherone but not on net
[13:01] <fsphil> anyone else decoding? the tracker's only showing Upu and rjharrison
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[13:01] <fsphil> $cAnary,)13,13:1-
[13:01] <fsphil> oooh
[13:02] <fsphil> signal is drifting more than usaul
[13:02] <fsphil> usual
[13:02] <GW8RAK> Strong sigs most of the time, but deep nulls every 10s or so
[13:02] <GW8RAK> Can't decode canary at all.
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[13:02] <Darkside> GW8RAK: sounds like some kind of rotation
[13:02] <Darkside> or the antenna moving in a certain way
[13:03] <UpuMobile> I'm getting cananry ok
[13:03] <fsphil> ah, see GW8RAK got a cat line
[13:03] <mattltm> Im getting Cat very well
[13:03] <GW8RAK> Yes, I can get cat almost every time even with nulls. But canary is a no go. Will check configuration.
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[13:04] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: Wondering about turning on and off a load on a battery, then performig an ft to get impedence spectra
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[13:05] <GW8RAK> Have got flight field set to canary, but no joy/.
[13:05] <GW8RAK> Just got one
[13:05] <UpuMobile> you got one
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[13:06] <GW8RAK> Reception always goes down between 18 and 20km or so and above that, it's generally good.
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[13:07] <fsphil> still just getting fragments
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[13:09] <GW8RAK> Can hear them both quite clearly on the scanner in the garden with a whip aerial
[13:09] <UpuMobile> canary shift 400hz
[13:12] <fsphil> got a sudden signal burst from canary -- got half a string
[13:13] <GW8RAK> Decode canary on the Yupiteru scanner with colinear
[13:13] <priyesh> how would I convert a text file full of packets into a gpx/kml track for google earth?
[13:13] <Randomskk> python
[13:14] <Randomskk> uhm
[13:14] <Randomskk> there's a more helpful answer to that question, too
[13:14] <priyesh> :P
[13:14] <Randomskk> do you need to do it offline?
[13:14] <priyesh> yeah
[13:14] <UpuMobile> how we doing on listeners
[13:14] <Randomskk> because the spacenear.us tracker outputs a KML
[13:14] <UpuMobile> fsphil ?
[13:14] <priyesh> well it's just for testing
[13:14] <Randomskk> right, okay
[13:14] <Randomskk> uhm
[13:14] <fsphil> partial strings here UpuMobile
[13:15] <priyesh> i think a quick script is what i'll end up doing
[13:15] <Randomskk> really it's probably easiest to write a quick python script
[13:15] <Randomskk> yea
[13:15] <fsphil> tracker is showing only one user again
[13:15] <Randomskk> just split each line by commas, grab the right fields, quickly check the checksum (I can point you to python code to do that if you want)
[13:15] <Randomskk> then dump the lat/lng into kml, which is fairly easy to do
[13:15] <priyesh> Randomskk: yeah, sure :)
[13:15] <Randomskk> make a big linestring geographic element
[13:15] <Randomskk> https://github.com/ukhas/habitat/blob/develop/habitat/utils/checksums.py
[13:17] <priyesh> thanks
[13:17] <fsphil> signal is fading like it's falling
[13:18] <GW8RAK> Can't see that here
[13:18] <fsphil> I'm actually getting a stronger signal than matt
[13:18] <Randomskk> priyesh: you could also run habitat and write a sink or connect to couch, but that's basically overkill
[13:20] <fsphil> yea this signal is a little more difficult to decode than normal
[13:21] <priyesh> Randomskk: yeah.. probably :P
[13:21] <fsphil> burst
[13:23] <M0LAG> Both descending now
[13:23] <fsphil> wonder why these where so tricky to decode
[13:23] <fsphil> I bet the antenna was different
[13:25] <Darkside> aha they have both burst
[13:26] <fsphil> almost at the same time
[13:27] <fsphil> budgie got higher
[13:27] <fsphil> it was the H2 balloon wasn't it?
[13:27] <UpuMobile> yep
[13:28] <fsphil> lost both signals here, no decodes but got close
[13:29] <rjharrison_eee> can some one give me a call let me know if the payloads land safely
[13:29] <rjharrison_eee> 07740 947814
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[13:30] <Laurenceb_> prank calls in 3,2,1
[13:30] <UpuMobile> rob
[13:31] <UpuMobile> your phone is going through to voice mail
[13:31] <fsphil> lol
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[13:31] <UpuMobile> but we are still tracking
[13:31] <UpuMobile> can we get live precition on?
[13:31] <RocketBoy> hi guyd - can someone run me a prediction of the landing spot for budgie
[13:31] <RocketBoy> guys
[13:32] <fsphil> jcoxon wasn't able to download the noaa data for the live prediction
[13:32] <UpuMobile> I'll run from here RocketBoy
[13:32] <RocketBoy> cheers
[13:33] <fsphil> they're coming down mighty fast
[13:33] <UpuMobile> trying
[13:33] <UpuMobile> hard when you're going round corners at 70
[13:35] <fsphil> flying over a relatively tree-free area
[13:35] <UpuMobile> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=6ae2494ccb92edea9656ecb7ef9ed430fbf78548
[13:36] <fsphil> Kelshall
[13:37] <fsphil> I think it will be further south than that
[13:38] <Laurenceb_> no predictions?
[13:39] <fsphil> couldn't get the noaa data
[13:39] <Laurenceb_> ah
[13:40] <fsphil> RocketBoy, you're well placed
[13:40] <RocketBoy> phew
[13:40] <RocketBoy> all looks good
[13:41] <fsphil> cat's going to fly over you
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[13:43] <Laurenceb_> G8KHW needs a hardhat
[13:43] <fsphil> guessing cat's going to fly overhead, but budgie will land nearby
[13:43] <fsphil> ooh you should be able to see it
[13:43] <fsphil> if it's clear
[13:43] <NigeyS> bk
[13:45] <fsphil> cat now 5km above the road
[13:48] <Laurenceb_> can anyone see them?
[13:48] <fsphil> the other chase car is approaching
[13:49] <fsphil> budgie should be on the ground
[13:50] <fsphil> near a house, surrounded by fields
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[13:52] <Darkside> uh oh, powerlines
[13:52] <Darkside> looks like its clearing them
[13:53] <fsphil> just
[13:53] <Darkside> but thereds another set
[13:53] <Darkside> need more data
[13:54] <fsphil> should be landed
[13:54] <fsphil> looks like nice landing spots for both
[13:54] <Darkside> unless it hit those powerlines
[13:54] <fsphil> although not liking the way they've stopped getting telemetry
[13:54] <fsphil> though 20km/h landing would be fairly hard
[13:56] <Darkside> looks like G8KHW is going for budgie first
[13:56] <Darkside> and blue car is going for cat
[13:56] <NigeyS> wonder if theyre filiming recovery
[13:56] <Darkside> i'd hope so
[13:56] <Darkside> but we won't see the footage until the show airs
[13:56] <NigeyS> :(
[13:57] <WillDuckworth> any ideas when the programme goes out?
[13:57] <fsphil> "late 2011/early 2012" according to wikipedia
[13:59] <fsphil> new telemetry from cat
[13:59] <fsphil> landed just short of those other power lines
[14:00] <Darkside> 'shoty'
[14:00] <Darkside> short*
[14:00] <Darkside> it could be on them
[14:00] <fsphil> nah
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[14:02] <fsphil> local terrain is about the altitude it's reporting
[14:02] <Darkside> hrmmm
[14:02] <Darkside> oh dear
[14:02] <Darkside> look at the new telemetry
[14:03] <Darkside> its either on, or directly under, the powerlines
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[14:04] <fsphil> eek
[14:04] <fsphil> new telemetry from budgie -- it's in a nice empty field :)
[14:05] <Darkside> hmm what is blue doing
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[14:05] <fsphil> actually no - there's a power line near budgie too, a smaller one
[14:05] <fsphil> but it's landed well clear of it
[14:09] <NigeyS> pesky power lines!
[14:10] <G0DJA> I'm a bit late I know but what freq is Cat on please?
[14:10] <Darkside> its landed
[14:11] <G0DJA> Ah - was looking at old possition - guess it's on the ground now as well
[14:12] <G0DJA> Must put a postit on the screen next time!
[14:13] <UpuMobile> located
[14:13] <UpuMobile> just tryoing to get access now
[14:13] <Darkside> UpuMobile: is cat in a powerline?
[14:14] <UpuMobile> not sure
[14:14] <UpuMobile> we are recoverying canary
[14:14] <Darkside> ahh ok
[14:14] <priyesh> budgie you mean :P
[14:14] <Darkside> blue car is near cat
[14:15] <priyesh> identity crisis
[14:15] <number10> how long do you think to recover?
[14:16] <UpuMobile> not long
[14:16] <UpuMobile> we can see it in a field
[14:16] <UpuMobile> just at the farm house now asking permission
[14:16] <Darkside> james may is with you?
[14:16] <Darkside> :P
[14:17] <UpuMobile> no
[14:17] <UpuMobile> hes at the other one#
[14:17] <Darkside> ahh
[14:17] <Darkside> they are at a nearby farm
[14:17] <Darkside> lool
[14:17] <Darkside> i really hope you are allowed to put some pics online
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[14:22] <fsphil> blue has stopped nearby
[14:23] <Darkside> yep
[14:23] <Darkside> blue contains james may
[14:25] <natrium42> hi
[14:25] <natrium42> who is james may?
[14:25] <Darkside> >_>
[14:25] <Darkside> google it
[14:25] <Darkside> top gear presenter
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[14:27] <Darkside> looks like they have it
[14:27] <Darkside> or its in the powerline
[14:27] <UpuMobile> yep moving
[14:27] <UpuMobile> we are sat at a farm
[14:27] <Darkside> i mean the blue car UpuMobile
[14:27] <Darkside> i know you guys would have got yours :P
[14:27] <UpuMobile> we are red :)
[14:28] <Darkside> cat looked like it was in a powerline
[14:28] <Darkside> oh wait, they are back near the payload..
[14:28] <Darkside> hmm
[14:29] <fsphil> dangling?
[14:29] <UpuMobile> BBC doing everything properly
[14:30] <Darkside> o hcool
[14:30] <fsphil> the blue car is in the field lol
[14:30] <Darkside> theres a eoad
[14:30] <Darkside> a road*
[14:31] <Darkside> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.96199,-0.008257&hl=en&ll=51.962158,-0.00824&spn=0.008383,0.022724&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=43.578243,93.076172&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.959945,-0.007496&panoid=4oqkO6X5yrtQzmnVHa8llw&cbp=12,307.18,,0,-5.69
[14:31] <Darkside> nice looking powerelines
[14:31] <Darkside> heh
[14:34] <UpuMobile> can't get Rob on the phone
[14:34] <UpuMobile> or the radio for that matter
[14:36] <fsphil> no new telemetry from the payload in a while
[14:37] <UpuMobile> both payloads recovered
[14:37] <Randomskk> score!
[14:37] <fsphil> \o/
[14:37] <UpuMobile> thx guys
[14:37] <Darkside> nice!
[14:38] <mattltm> Well done :)
[14:38] <fsphil> considering they burst over 1km difference, they landed pretty close to eachother
[14:39] <SpeedEvil> They were released at the same time?
[14:41] <fsphil> yea
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> Shows how well they track I guess
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> H?ow far aprt were they in route?
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> I only just saw them at burst
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[14:41] <fsphil> tracker has the path - they stayed pretty tight
[14:42] <fsphil> up until they started moving west
[14:42] <SpeedEvil> I know - it's hard to interrogate the tracker to get same times
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[14:44] <NigeyS> cat was H2 yes ?
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[15:17] <natrium42> SpeedEvil: did you try bright lights?
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[15:18] <SpeedEvil> ?
[15:19] <SpeedEvil> You mean for seeing balloons?
[15:19] <SpeedEvil> No.
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[15:40] <fsphil-laptop> annoying thing about this launch is we don't get to see pictures for ages :)
[15:43] <Elwell> launch?
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[15:47] <fsphil-laptop> ah, there was a double launch today
[15:47] <fsphil-laptop> by rjharrison for the BBC
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[16:04] <jcoxon> morning all :-)
[16:06] <natrium42> yo jcoxon
[16:06] <jcoxon> hey natrium42
[16:07] <natrium42> how are you?
[16:07] <natrium42> getting enough sleep?
[16:08] <jcoxon> yeah, got 6hrs today
[16:08] <natrium42> eek
[16:08] <natrium42> at least you can prescribe yourself medicine
[16:08] <jcoxon> hehe
[16:08] <jcoxon> its all cool
[16:09] <jcoxon> you survive on less sleep i'm sure
[16:09] <natrium42> nah, i sleep too much
[16:09] <natrium42> so, i am going to cali again next weedk
[16:09] <natrium42> *week
[16:09] <jcoxon> oh yeah
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[16:10] <natrium42> for at least 3 weeks
[16:10] <natrium42> maybe i can do a launch there
[16:10] <natrium42> with the zp envelopes
[16:10] <jcoxon> ooooooo
[16:11] <natrium42> they keep looking at me in the basement
[16:11] <jcoxon> hehe - one day...
[16:12] <fsphil-laptop> "launch us!"
[16:13] <natrium42> ^
[16:13] <jcoxon> so a launch at this time of year would go west
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[16:15] <natrium42> haha, really?
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[17:24] <griffonbot> @hibbie: Makerfaire Detroit is amazing. So many things! @gordonjcp @kylegordon @mgdm start saving for next year... #ukhas too... [http://twitter.com/hibbie/status/97356969492484097]
[17:29] <chris_99> anyone know whether the source for the spacenear.us prediction
[17:29] <chris_99> is open
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[17:30] <Randomskk> well
[17:31] <Randomskk> what exactly are you asking for?
[17:31] <Randomskk> http://habhub.org/predict is open source
[17:31] <Randomskk> including the actual C source code that powers the prediction
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[17:31] <Randomskk> the code for spacenear.us/listen and the code to perform the realtime predictions isn't readily available, I don't think
[17:32] <chris_99> aha cool, so the habhub prediction is different
[17:32] <chris_99> from the spacenear.us one right?
[17:32] <chris_99> or is it the samething
[17:32] <Randomskk> same prediction software.
[17:33] <chris_99> aha cool will have a play with it then
[17:33] <chris_99> i'm intrigued how it determines the winds
[17:33] <Randomskk> just, spacenear.us uses some more PHP to make it run based on recently received ballon data, while habhub.org/predict has a user interface to input the data, then it runs based on that
[17:33] <Randomskk> it doesn't
[17:33] <Randomskk> it uses the wind data available from the US NOAA
[17:34] <Randomskk> they have a big supercomputer that calculates an absolute tonne of useful weather data for the entire planet for the next ten days or so
[17:34] <Randomskk> you can fetch parts of it via OpenDAP
[17:34] <fsphil> I'd like to try making an offline tracker based on it
[17:34] <Randomskk> the predictor core itself requries some csv files that describe the information it needs, so habhub.org/predict has a python script that downloads the required data via OpenDAP and writes it out
[17:35] <chris_99> aha interesting, i didn't realise NOAA published wind data
[17:35] <Randomskk> fsphil: habitat should work as an offline (then synchronising when it gets net access) tracker, and its predictor frontend'l do similar parts
[17:35] <Randomskk> on the other hand who knows what the timescale for that is ;)
[17:35] <fsphil> lol
[17:35] <fsphil> including map images?
[17:35] <Randomskk> chris_99: https://github.com/jonsowman/cusf-standalone-predictor
[17:36] <Randomskk> fsphil: theoretically, yea
[17:36] <natrium42> wtb habhub asap
[17:36] <Randomskk> it is on the roadmap - via openstreetmap, which is readily done offline
[17:37] <chris_99> cheers, that link looks exactly the kind of thing i want
[17:37] <Randomskk> chris_99: that's the source for the habhub/predict thing
[17:37] <fsphil> yea - there's a great little gtk control for openstreetmap
[17:37] <Randomskk> in pred_src is the C code that drives predictions
[17:38] <chris_99> aha awesome!
[17:38] <Randomskk> have fun understanding it :P
[17:38] <Randomskk> (and predict.py fetches the wind data from NOAA)
[17:38] <chris_99> cool, i think its really neat they publish that data
[17:39] <Randomskk> yea, it is
[17:39] <Randomskk> they publish really loads of cool stuff
[17:39] <Randomskk> precip, water coverage, fog, other more exciting things I can't remmeber
[17:39] <Randomskk> remember*
[17:40] <chris_99> ooh nice
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[17:46] <rjharrison_> hi all
[17:46] <Darkside> hey
[17:46] <Darkside> how was james may?
[17:47] <number10> hi rjharrison
[17:48] <number10> i failed with the PC only managed to get 11 packets after installing on another pc :(
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[17:51] <robertmobile> hey
[17:51] <robertmobile> .
[17:51] <number10> hi
[17:51] <robertmobile> did you manage to track today?
[17:52] <number10> pc failed - install on secon pc only got 11 packets
[17:52] <number10> just as cat burdt
[17:52] <robertmobile> cool
[17:52] <number10> burst
[17:52] <number10> and as canary at 7k
[17:52] <robertmobile> how far are you from the payloads
[17:53] <number10> dont know why my pc would not decode it - think it was line input problem - need more practice. Did you have fun?
[17:53] <hibby> makerfaire is going nicely
[17:53] <robertmobile> Yep great day
[17:53] <robertmobile> Will put some pics up later
[17:54] <number10> are you back home tonight or staing in cambs... look forward to the pics
[17:54] <robertmobile> back to night
[17:55] <number10> thats a long day!
[17:56] <number10> from the small amount of data I have - looks like cat burst over litlington
[17:56] <cuddykid> hi all
[17:59] <number10> anyway congratulations robertmobile - two sucessfull launches and recoveries
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[18:02] <Darkside> time to get some dinner...
[18:02] <NigeyS> fooooooooooood
[18:02] <Darkside> yes, food!
[18:02] <Darkside> i need some...
[18:03] <NigeyS> tortellini .. when i can be arsed cooking it :|
[18:06] <fsphil> my tracking didn't go so well today.. wonder if something has changed here or the antenna on the payload was somehow not optimal
[18:07] <NigeyS> i couldnt decode a thing here
[18:12] <cuddykid> tesco finest curry lol
[18:12] <NigeyS> nom nom !
[18:13] <fsphil> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[18:13] <cuddykid> love them :D
[18:14] <hibby> nom.nom.nom
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[18:15] <NigeyS> hibster!
[18:15] <cuddykid> hmm, not sure whether I can be bothered to get out the soldering iron and solder up the SD logger stuff
[18:16] <NigeyS> yeah ya can, DO IT! lol
[18:16] <cuddykid> haha, just been on about a 20mile cycle
[18:17] <SpeedEvil> longbicycle is long.
[18:17] <cuddykid> I know, I'll start by cutting the plain board
[18:17] <fsphil> I haven't moved much all day, and I still can't be bothered soldering stuff :p
[18:17] <cuddykid> lol fsphil
[18:17] Action: SpeedEvil has been thinking of flywheels today.
[18:18] <SpeedEvil> 'how dangerous is a ton at nearly mach 1 anyway'
[18:18] <fsphil> buried deep underground.. not so much
[18:18] <NigeyS> well i dont think a hardhat would be of any use ... :p
[18:19] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: Indeed. :)
[18:21] <hibby> flywheels are safe.
[18:22] <hibby> apart from if they become spinning falling flywheels of death.
[18:22] <hibby> oh wait....
[18:23] <fsphil> that'll be fixed in flywheels 2.0
[18:23] <NigeyS> hehe
[18:23] <fsphil> suppose you could use longer wheels rather than wider ones
[18:26] <hibby> would that not make them elliptical?
[18:27] <hibby> :p
[18:27] <Darkside> nommmm
[18:27] <Darkside> beer batter fish
[18:28] <NigeyS> mmm
[18:28] <fsphil> fine, deeper :p
[18:31] <hibby> bsck to geeking
[18:31] <hibby> buhbye
[18:31] <fsphil> bah, that's not fare
[18:31] <cuddykid> yum
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[18:34] Action: Darkside is watching Richard Hammond's Journey
[18:34] <Darkside> yay hammond!
[18:36] <Darkside> hammond is being a showoff pilot
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[18:39] <fsphil> so 2/3 of the top gear presents can fly a plane
[18:39] <cuddykid> never knew hammond could fly!
[18:40] <cuddykid> something I really want to do - but costs tooooo much atm
[18:40] <fsphil> I had a single lesson for a birthday present once
[18:41] <fsphil> but no way I could do more
[18:41] <cuddykid> bumpy/sick inducing?!
[18:41] <fsphil> nah, I loved it
[18:41] <fsphil> just too expensive
[18:41] <cuddykid> oh right!
[18:42] <cuddykid> never been in a small plane
[18:42] <cuddykid> well, not prop one
[18:42] <fsphil> it's brilliant
[18:42] <cuddykid> yeah, really want to
[18:42] <fsphil> I fancy having another go - not a lesson, but just a spin around
[18:42] <cuddykid> heard it can be way more bumpy though - probably wouldn't be good with too much of that!
[18:42] <cuddykid> suppose you get used to it though
[18:43] <fsphil> it moves a lot quicker than a big plane
[18:43] <fsphil> when we where coming in to land, the pilot did a sharp turn to the right
[18:43] <fsphil> it was *very* sharp
[18:43] <cuddykid> haha!
[18:43] <cuddykid> thrill ride
[18:43] <fsphil> one minute all is normal then a second later the world is on its side
[18:44] <fsphil> good stuff :)
[18:44] <cuddykid> lol
[18:44] <cuddykid> sounds great :D
[18:44] <fsphil> the other thing I remember most was we where not going the direction the plane was pointing
[18:44] <fsphil> there was a strong wind
[18:44] <cuddykid> brilliant!!
[18:46] <fsphil> Darkside, love the bit in that show where they hear the big crack noise when they're underwater
[18:48] <fsphil> oooh someone should do that -- track a balloon from an airplane
[18:48] <fsphil> for no sensible reason other than to be the first *g*
[18:48] <Darkside> guys
[18:49] <Darkside> i'm hopefully putting a SDR into space
[18:49] <Darkside> so...
[18:49] <Darkside> what i'm hoping is for it to be insanely wideband
[18:49] <fsphil> does it cover 434.x mhz?
[18:49] <Darkside> i.e. i can tune it to wherever
[18:49] <Darkside> i want to be able to cover 1MHz to about 800MHz
[18:49] <fsphil> ooh
[18:49] <Darkside> maybe higher
[18:49] <Darkside> so yes
[18:49] <fsphil> the higher power band we can use is 869mhz
[18:49] <fsphil> 500mw
[18:49] <fsphil> 10mw might struggle to orbit
[18:49] <Darkside> in 3 years, i may be able to reprogram a cubesat to receive a balloon
[18:50] <fsphil> how to get it to pick out the payload frequency
[18:50] <fsphil> I suppose having it look for two signals with the proper shift, and baud rate
[18:50] <Darkside> yeah
[18:51] <Darkside> no idea about that one at th emoment...
[18:51] <Darkside> things to work on..
[18:51] <Darkside> i want to have it have a big toolkit of signal processing packages available
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[18:51] <Darkside> so i can configure its RX pipeline to record data to internal memory, then stream it down
[18:51] <fsphil> what sort of computer system is running it?
[18:51] <Darkside> it
[18:52] <Darkside> i'm currently looking at an ARM based system
[18:52] <Darkside> probably a rad hardened ARM processor
[18:52] <fsphil> should be enough to decode simple rtty
[18:52] <Darkside> yeah
[18:52] <Darkside> i want the whole thin gto run ucLinux
[18:53] <fsphil> be interesting to see what kind of noise would be received too
[18:53] <Darkside> yeah
[18:53] <fsphil> though I suppose that could be tested with a balloon sdr receiver
[18:53] <Darkside> yup
[18:53] <Darkside> that was mmy intention
[18:54] <fsphil> ooh, could fly a funcube dongle
[18:54] <fsphil> its teeny tiny
[18:54] <fsphil> have some kind of arm linux board with a usb host port
[19:00] <Darkside> well the idea is i'd make my own thing like that
[19:00] <Darkside> i'd probably have multiple systems for different bands
[19:00] <Darkside> the funcube system is good for >55MHz
[19:00] <Darkside> below that, i need something else
[19:01] <fsphil> an HF receiver in space
[19:01] <fsphil> what kind of antenna are they flying?
[19:01] <Darkside> 'they'
[19:02] <Darkside> fsphil: this is what my PhD is turning into
[19:02] <fsphil> ah, what sort of antenna are you flying? :)
[19:02] <Darkside> no idea yet
[19:02] <Darkside> probably an active antenna
[19:03] <Darkside> i'm waiting to see what the DSTO come up with on their HF cubesat
[19:03] <Darkside> i'm thinking an active cross-dipole
[19:04] <Darkside> obviously not full length
[19:04] <Darkside> that'd be damn near impossible to do on a cubesat
[19:04] <Darkside> for other bands... not sure
[19:04] <Darkside> i was thinking a cross-log-periodic would be cool, but no idea how i'd implement that
[19:05] <Darkside> i need to find out what funcube are doing for their antennas
[19:06] <fsphil> there was some talk of a lunar and mars amateur satellite during that conference earlier
[19:06] <fsphil> imagine that'll need a pretty special antenna
[19:08] <Darkside> heh
[19:09] <Darkside> well most of those are in the multiuple GHz range
[19:09] <Darkside> and use big high gain dishes
[19:09] <Darkside> i can't do that for VHF and UHF
[19:10] <Darkside> but yeah, i'm thinking some kind of active antenna will be the best i can do
[19:11] <Darkside> something like the funcube's ICs for VHF/UHF, and something else (perhaps a custom tuner) for HF
[19:11] <rjharrison> phew home
[19:12] <Darkside> i want to make it as modular as possible - ideally each tuner should appear as a I2S sound card to linux
[19:12] <Darkside> and i should be able to produce different configurations of my receiver for different purposes
[19:12] <Darkside> i.e. a HF only one for deployment on remote islands, or a all-band one to go in a sat
[19:13] <Darkside> rjharrison: you were in the chase car with james may, right?
[19:16] <rjharrison> Yep
[19:16] <rjharrison> Going to pop a few pics up in a sec
[19:16] <fsphil> cool!
[19:16] <Darkside> awesomeeeee
[19:20] <rjharrison> BTW Hit the power lines on the way down
[19:20] <Darkside> oh it did?
[19:20] <Darkside> we saw the site looked bloody close to powerlines
[19:20] <rjharrison> When thoght the middel of them
[19:20] <fsphil> yea, right underneath them on the google image
[19:20] <number10> i drove past but was a little late
[19:21] <rjharrison> got a nice pic of the pylon
[19:24] <SpeedEvil> rjharrison: Congrats!
[19:24] <rjharrison> Thanks
[19:24] <SpeedEvil> rjharrison: charring from powerlines?
[19:30] <rjharrison> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30721501@N05/5991016053/
[19:31] <rjharrison> Jumping pic http://www.flickr.com/photos/30721501@N05/5991020781/in/photostream/
[19:32] <Darkside> lolwut
[19:32] <Darkside> thats a big balloon
[19:32] <SpeedEvil> :)
[19:32] <Darkside> and whats he holding in his hand?
[19:32] <rjharrison> It's an urn
[19:33] <rjharrison> You'll have to watch the series
[19:33] <Darkside> :<
[19:33] <Darkside> ill be in australia when they air...
[19:33] <fsphil> I thought that's what it was
[19:33] <fsphil> vpn iplayer :)
[19:33] <Darkside> yeah
[19:33] <Darkside> i'll have to
[19:33] <rjharrison> basically some pet ash is distributed
[19:34] <Darkside> oh, one of his pets i guess
[19:34] <rjharrison> No
[19:34] <rjharrison> The tv compnay found them
[19:34] <Randomskk> "found"?!
[19:34] <Darkside> ookay
[19:34] <Randomskk> they nicked some pets and cremated them? :|
[19:35] <natrium42> laika
[19:35] <number10> good pics rjharrison, congratulations on getting two up and down
[19:35] <fsphil> poor laika
[19:35] <fsphil> yea weird seeing two balloons right next to eachother
[19:35] <rjharrison> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30721501@N05/5991604724/
[19:35] <rjharrison> fsphil you saw that then
[19:36] <fsphil> as I was saying, weird!
[19:36] <fsphil> lol nah, was talking about the tracker
[19:36] <Darkside> wow
[19:36] <Darkside> so did they have cameras on the payloads?
[19:36] <rjharrison> 3 gopros in each
[19:37] <Darkside> WOW
[19:37] <Randomskk> they nicked some pets and cremated them? :|
[19:37] <Randomskk> uhm, oops
[19:37] <Randomskk> wrong window
[19:37] <Randomskk> rjharrison: was the video excellent? :D
[19:37] <Darkside> rjharrison: no wonder you needed so much lift
[19:37] <rjharrison> we have 180GB od data
[19:37] <Randomskk> haha we'll have to put the iplayer link on here once it's live
[19:37] <rjharrison> film
[19:38] <fsphil> was the chase filmed?
[19:38] <rjharrison> Yep ad 100GB for that
[19:38] <NigeyS> :o
[19:39] <Darkside> and you can't release any of it, right?
[19:39] <rjharrison> Yep
[19:39] <Darkside> dammit
[19:39] <rjharrison> Technically not even the stuff I'v posted tonight
[19:39] <Darkside> heh
[19:39] <fsphil> we won't tell anyone
[19:39] <Darkside> we won't tell
[19:39] <rjharrison> but given you have all helped out today I thought a few pics would be some reward
[19:40] <rjharrison> I'm going to make these private in a bit any how
[19:40] <fsphil> was there any difference with the antenna, and your previous icarus payloads?
[19:41] <rjharrison> No
[19:41] <rjharrison> fsphil not as good today then
[19:41] <NigeyS> very hard to decode
[19:41] <fsphil> no decodes at all
[19:41] <rjharrison> :-(
[19:41] <rjharrison> You tried both I assume
[19:42] <number10> that picture of you with baloon looks like your feet are off the ground!
[19:43] <fsphil> yea
[19:43] <fsphil> the 434.650 signal was a bit stronger
[19:44] <Randomskk> hang on, payload names `cat' and `canary', "basically some pet ash is distributed", (!)
[19:45] <fsphil> one using helium, the other hydrogen
[19:45] <natrium42> it's simple, they couldn't send live animals, so they sent the next best thing :D
[19:45] <fsphil> any special precautions with the H2 rjharrison? I'd like to try that some day
[19:46] <priyesh> can someone make sure that an email is sent out to the email list when this aires?
[19:46] <priyesh> that would be great!
[19:46] <priyesh> :D
[19:46] <fsphil> good idea
[19:46] <natrium42> it sucks that iplayer doesn't work outside of UK...
[19:46] <priyesh> otherwise I'll probably miss it on irc
[19:46] <fsphil> some if it can be accessed in certain EU countries now
[19:47] <fsphil> not sure what's on it
[19:47] <priyesh> lucky i'm in the UK then :P
[19:51] <Upu> evening :)
[19:51] <fsphil> re Upu
[19:51] <Upu> cheers for the help today guys
[19:51] <Upu> haha rjharrison that pic you in the air is epic
[19:52] <Upu> I'm properly sunburnt
[19:52] <number10> did u have fun upu
[19:52] <Upu> yeah was a great day
[19:52] <Upu> knacker though
[19:52] <Upu> knackered
[19:52] <number10> i bet
[19:53] <Upu> going to grab a whiskey and sit down and show the wife the pics
[19:53] <number10> I was quite near but could not get pc to decode - by the time I loaded fldigi on secon pc only managed 11 decoded packets - useless
[19:54] <Upu> far from useless
[19:54] <Upu> first time I did it decoded 3 :)
[19:54] <Upu> so you beat me
[19:54] <number10> lol thanks mate
[19:54] <number10> only got the AR800 last week
[19:55] <Upu> decent antenna and you're set
[19:55] <Upu> anyway afk for a but
[19:55] <Upu> bit
[19:55] <number10> ok
[19:58] <rjharrison> hey Upu
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[20:04] <rjharrison> Pictus have been set to friends only now
[20:05] <rjharrison> I will post the lot after broadcast
[20:05] <number10> any chace of adding me ;)
[20:05] <rjharrison> sure
[20:06] <priyesh> and me? :P
[20:06] <priyesh> no worries if you can't.. i'm looking forward to the broadcast anyway
[20:07] <rjharrison> there are only the 3 pics up there
[20:07] <priyesh> rjharrison: did they give you an approximate date for the broadcast?
[20:07] <rjharrison> Just set them to friends to prevent too many people looking at them
[20:07] <daveake> Looks like it went well. What's with the strange altitude plot for "cat"?
[20:07] <rjharrison> I don't want the BBC giving me hassel
[20:07] <priyesh> yeah
[20:07] <priyesh> is it being aired this year?
[20:07] <rjharrison> One sec i haven't seen it yet
[20:08] <rjharrison> yep sept
[20:08] <priyesh> nice :)
[20:08] <daveake> or budgie even
[20:08] <daveake> But not canary :)
[20:08] <rjharrison> Is the plot weird?
[20:09] <rjharrison> there was a huge duration befor the launch
[20:09] <rjharrison> ahh but not that long
[20:09] <number10> I suspect that for the TV thats wre the interest is
[20:09] <daveake> Over 2 hours to get to 5000m?
[20:09] <rjharrison> oh it was the test data yeasterday
[20:09] <daveake> Ah
[20:10] <rjharrison> canary
[20:10] <rjharrison> data logging blip
[20:10] <rjharrison> will fix that with steves data
[20:10] <daveake> okey dokey
[20:11] <Upu> hey rjharrison
[20:11] <Upu> jsut looking at the pics now
[20:11] <rjharrison> Cool
[20:11] <Upu> awesome stuff but yeah won't post public
[20:11] <Upu> cheers for giving me the opportunity to tag along, ok afk again
[20:12] <rjharrison> Cool
[20:13] <number10> did not know there was filming - so lucky I drove past landings after you had recovered - would not have been good other people turning u[
[20:13] <number10> up
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[20:44] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[20:45] <fsphil> g'day LL
[20:45] <Darkside> fsphil: thats my line
[20:45] <Darkside> dammit
[20:45] <Darkside> you're not even australian
[20:46] <fsphil> crikey!
[20:47] <fsphil> I watched a lot of Rolf Harris when I was young :p
[20:56] <fsphil> ooh looks like ARISSat-1 might have been activated onboard the ISS
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[20:57] <fsphil> it's being launched in a few days
[20:58] <fsphil> well, by launched I mean pushed away
[20:58] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:58] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:59] <Darkside> yeah, arrisat is active now
[20:59] <Darkside> but my receiver is in the flat i'm locked out of...
[20:59] <Darkside> FUUUUU
[21:00] <Lunar_Lander> why are you locked out of it?
[21:01] <Darkside> because i put the keys on the table, walked out to pick up a bag, and the door slammed shit behind me
[21:01] <Darkside> shut(
[21:01] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[21:01] <Darkside> and the nearest person with a key is in yorkshire
[21:01] <Lunar_Lander> and where are you now?
[21:01] <Darkside> at a friends place
[21:01] <Darkside> the guy in yorkshire is getting back here tomorrow night
[21:01] <Darkside> so i don't have much longer to wait
[21:02] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:09] Action: SpeedEvil has way too much stuff.
[21:09] <SpeedEvil> I was pondering buying some plastic for vapour barrier.
[21:09] <SpeedEvil> When I realised I had a large roll (20kg or so) of 1.5m layflat tubing in the attic.
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[21:16] <fsphil> no passes due of the ISS for another 5 hours
[21:16] Action: SpeedEvil checks.
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[21:19] <Upu> Evening
[21:19] <Upu> http://ava.upuaut.net/files/IMG_0062.JPG
[21:20] <Darkside> noice
[21:20] <Darkside> anything else you can show us?
[21:21] <Upu> just looking
[21:23] <NigeyS> meep
[21:23] <NigeyS> nice pic upu
[21:23] <Upu> evening niftylettuce
[21:23] <Upu> err
[21:23] <Upu> NigeyS
[21:23] <Darkside> lol
[21:23] <NigeyS> lol
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:23] <Upu> thats an epic name
[21:23] <Darkside> now we need to get hammond over to australia for a projecthorus launch
[21:23] <Darkside> >_>
[21:23] <NigeyS> been called alot of things before, but never a lettuce :)
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[21:24] <Upu> so who got strings today ?
[21:24] <NigeyS> Darkside, have you met Giggles ?
[21:24] <Darkside> NigeyS: no?
[21:24] <fsphil> lol
[21:24] Action: fsphil was stringless
[21:24] Action: Darkside had no radio...
[21:24] <NigeyS> Darkside, http://t.co/j6shMaG
[21:24] Action: NigeyS had only red strings :(
[21:25] <Darkside> wut
[21:25] <Darkside> its a little bear?
[21:25] <NigeyS> its a blue nose bear
[21:25] <fsphil> I needa steerable yagi or something :)
[21:25] <Darkside> lol
[21:25] <NigeyS> soon to be starring on gigglesinspace.com ..
[21:25] <Darkside> is he gonna fly?
[21:25] <Darkside> hehe
[21:26] <Darkside> i don't have my tux that went into space anymore
[21:26] <NigeyS> something to keep the niece and nephew occupied with over the summer holiday
[21:26] <Darkside> we auctioned off his body for charity
[21:26] <Darkside> >_>
[21:26] <NigeyS> ahh yes
[21:26] <NigeyS> was a good idea that
[21:27] <Upu> just editing a picture
[21:27] <Darkside> raised $23000
[21:27] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[21:27] <NigeyS> blimey, thats alot!
[21:27] <NigeyS> was for the flood victims right ?
[21:27] <Darkside> yeah
[21:27] <NigeyS> a noble cause, hats off to you guys for doing it
[21:28] <Upu> CS5 content aware is shit hot
[21:28] <Darkside> lol
[21:28] <Darkside> whatcha editing out?
[21:28] <Darkside> or is that a secret
[21:29] <Upu> Mr May
[21:29] <Darkside> wut
[21:29] <Darkside> why are you editing out james may :(
[21:29] <NigeyS> :o
[21:30] <Upu> I don't know really
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> yeah that was a good action Darkside
[21:30] <Darkside> is this a BBC demand?
[21:30] <Upu> no not really
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> James May the top gear man?
[21:30] <Upu> Yes
[21:31] <Upu> http://ava.upuaut.net/files/floatingrob.jpg
[21:31] <Upu> Notice the legs lol
[21:31] <Darkside> oh we've seen this pic
[21:31] <NigeyS> haha awsome editing upu
[21:31] <Darkside> with james may included
[21:31] <Upu> oh ok lol
[21:31] <Upu> messy editing :)
[21:32] <natrium42> can somebody cut it out?
[21:32] <natrium42> i can add it to the tracker
[21:32] <Randomskk> haha that's still pretty excellent editing
[21:32] <Darkside> he's holding an urn
[21:32] <Upu> yes thats th eone
[21:32] <natrium42> whenever it detects rob's callsign
[21:32] <Upu> sure natrium42 :)
[21:32] <Darkside> LOOOOOOOL
[21:32] <fsphil> haha
[21:32] <Darkside> DO IT
[21:33] <fsphil> I can do it at work with photoshop
[21:33] <Darkside> i think we all need to make similar pictures
[21:33] <fsphil> won't try it with gimp
[21:33] <Darkside> with our own balloons
[21:34] <Darkside> so we can each have our own customized balloon graphic
[21:34] <Upu> Did Rob tell you about the payload whacking the pylon on the way down ?
[21:35] <fsphil> briefly
[21:35] <Upu> hit one of the live wires I think and bounced off it
[21:35] <fsphil> on the tracker it looked like it was directly under the lines
[21:35] <fsphil> we couldn't decide if it was hanging from it
[21:35] <Lunar_Lander> when was the flight Upu?
[21:35] <Upu> today Lunar_Lander
[21:35] <Lunar_Lander> damn, missed it
[21:35] <Lunar_Lander> sorry :(
[21:36] <Laurenceb_> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/29/aptiquant_iq_survey/
[21:36] <Laurenceb_> hahaha
[21:36] <NigeyS> Laurenceb, saw that this morning, made me chuckle!
[21:36] <Lunar_Lander> xD the pic Upu
[21:36] <Lunar_Lander> and James May was at the launch?
[21:37] <Upu> yeah
[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[21:37] <Laurenceb_> oh dear
[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> why?
[21:37] <Upu> he was in Robs car
[21:37] <Laurenceb_> i clearly need to s/firefox/opera
[21:37] <Upu> its his program
[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> for Top Gear?
[21:37] <Upu> No Man Lab
[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> ag
[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:37] <Laurenceb_> whos that in the picture?
[21:37] <natrium42> but did he drive rob's car?
[21:38] <Upu> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vsw36
[21:38] <Upu> no he was passenger in Robs car
[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> and why do you have to remove him from the photo?
[21:38] <Laurenceb_> wait what
[21:38] <natrium42> bah
[21:38] <Laurenceb_> http://ava.upuaut.net/files/IMG_0062.JPG
[21:38] <Upu> he was actually using the radio
[21:38] <Upu> and the tracker
[21:38] <Laurenceb_> who is that?
[21:38] <Upu> <-
[21:38] <Upu> my ugly mug
[21:38] <Laurenceb_> oh i thought it was james may or something
[21:39] <Upu> Lunar_Lander its Robs photo
[21:39] <Upu> dunno if he wanted James to be in it
[21:39] <Laurenceb_> was wondering how much tv makeup they used
[21:39] <Laurenceb_> no offence :P
[21:39] <Randomskk> it's james may and also upu >_>
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:39] <Randomskk> there are two people in that photograph
[21:39] <Laurenceb_> what the hell
[21:39] <Laurenceb_> he looks >10 years older
[21:39] <niftylettuce> Upu: :)
[21:39] <Upu> oh hello niftylettuce :)
[21:40] <Upu> Laurenceb me or James ? :)
[21:40] <Laurenceb_> james :P
[21:40] <Upu> yeah he does look a little jaded in real life
[21:40] <Darkside> oh man, james was using the tracker?
[21:40] <Darkside> awesome
[21:40] <Lunar_Lander> Upu can you ask James if he wants to visit a launch in NW Germany
[21:40] <Lunar_Lander> ?
[21:40] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[21:41] <Upu> not now :)
[21:41] <natrium42> http://ava.upuaut.net/files/hf_am_I_doin_it_rite.JPG
[21:41] <natrium42> ouch
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[21:41] <natrium42> http://ava.upuaut.net/files/warningsign.jpg
[21:41] <natrium42> lol
[21:41] <fsphil> lol
[21:41] <Darkside> lol
[21:42] <Darkside> i hope that didn't fly...
[21:42] <Upu> haha
[21:42] <Upu> no :)
[21:42] <Upu> was a joke
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> check this
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> http://www3.noz.de/th/bg_large/55706396.jpg
[21:44] <Darkside> ?
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> vandalism
[21:44] <Darkside> what does Sogeln mean
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> http://www2.noz.de/th/bg_large/55706164.jpg
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> that is the city limit sign
[21:44] <natrium42> Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer?
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:45] <Darkside> what, people just fhrew them in the rifer?
[21:45] <Darkside> river*
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[21:45] <natrium42> Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> http://www1.noz.de/th/bg_large/55706190.jpg
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> two grills and a cash register
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> http://www2.noz.de/th/bg_large/55706242.jpg
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> the mayor of the city
[21:46] <natrium42> is it where you live?
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> nearby yes
[21:46] <natrium42> konkret!
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> from our newspaper
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[21:54] <Upu> oh btw
[21:54] <Upu> the payloads were sealed up with my pink gaffer tape :)
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> so you support breast cancer research?
[21:55] <Upu> no its a long ongoing thing I lost a bet so my payload is pink
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> and Breast Cancer Research
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[21:56] <Upu> aye
[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_ribbon
[22:00] <Randomskk> Upu: haha the pink one flew?!
[22:00] <Randomskk> that's amazing
[22:00] <Randomskk> did you get any pictures of just the pink payload all rigged up you could share? :P
[22:00] <Randomskk> I think flying the pink payload on national tv definitely counts as paying off the bet, haha
[22:00] <LazyLeopard> :)
[22:01] <Upu> Randomskk they sealed the canary one with pink tape
[22:01] <LazyLeopard> Sounds like I missed a couple of interesting flights today...
[22:02] <Upu> Let me get a pic of it
[22:05] <Darkside> nn all
[22:06] <Upu> just resizing
[22:07] <Upu> http://ava.upuaut.net/files/pink-gaffer.jpg
[22:07] <Lunar_Lander> what are budgie and cat on the tracker?
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[22:08] <Upu> have a look at that picture :)
[22:08] <NigeyS> haha nicey
[22:08] <Randomskk> :D
[22:08] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:08] <Upu> my pink gaffer
[22:08] <Upu> is going to be on national TV
[22:08] Action: Upu takes a bow
[22:08] <Randomskk> a thing of beauty
[22:09] <Randomskk> DanielRichman must be proud
[22:09] <fsphil> very pretty lol
[22:09] <fsphil> who's the guys holding it?
[22:09] <Upu> they are from Man Lab
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[22:10] <Upu> it was on the other payload as well
[22:11] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:11] <Upu> and on the hydrogen warning sign attached to the balloon
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[22:11] <Lunar_Lander> you flew with H2?
[22:11] <Upu> yeah
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[22:12] <NigeyS> oddly enough the He got higher than the H2
[22:12] <Upu> no
[22:12] <Upu> H2 was higher
[22:12] <NigeyS> oh
[22:12] <NigeyS> i lost track of which was which then
[22:12] <NigeyS> wasnt much in it mind, 2km ish ?
[22:12] <Upu> 1km
[22:13] <Upu> I think
[22:13] <fsphil> just over 1km#
[22:13] <Lunar_Lander> what is the difference between cat and budgie?
[22:13] <NigeyS> hmm guess the H2 isnt really worth the extra hassle then
[22:13] <Upu> http://ava.upuaut.net/files/hydrogen.jpg
[22:13] <Upu> its alot cheaper
[22:13] <SpeedEvil> :)
[22:13] Action: SpeedEvil has been pushing H2 for ages.
[22:14] <NigeyS> true SpeedEvil you have indeed :p
[22:14] <Lunar_Lander> what is the difference between cat and budgie?
[22:14] <fsphil> don't push too hard or it'll EXPLODE!!!
[22:14] <NigeyS> lol
[22:14] <Upu> Lunar_Lander one was shaped like a cat
[22:14] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[22:14] <Upu> and one was a budgie
[22:14] <Lunar_Lander> the H2 one?
[22:14] <NigeyS> canary!
[22:14] <Upu> budgie
[22:15] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[22:15] <Upu> it was the most unscientific experiment ever
[22:15] <NigeyS> lmao
[22:15] <fsphil> indeed lol
[22:15] <Upu> different balloon sizes, different payloads
[22:15] <Upu> they put fur on the payload ffs
[22:15] <Upu> and feathers on the other one
[22:15] <NigeyS> hahaha
[22:15] <Upu> anyway watch the program don't want to give it all away
[22:16] <Upu> there is a reason for all this sillyness
[22:16] <fsphil> looking forward to it
[22:16] <priyesh> Upu: how did the bbc find out about you, etc?
[22:16] <Upu> they contacted Rob Harrison priyesh
[22:16] <priyesh> what did they see which interested them?
[22:16] <priyesh> or did he know them from before?
[22:17] <Upu> cheap way of getting stunning shots
[22:17] <Upu> Rob has done alot of launches both personal and commercial
[22:17] <priyesh> okay
[22:17] <priyesh> what did they attach to your payloads?
[22:17] <priyesh> just some cameras? (gopros)
[22:17] <Upu> payloads were theres
[22:17] <Upu> yeah
[22:17] <Upu> in fact 1 sec
[22:19] <Upu> http://ava.upuaut.net/files/cameras.jpg
[22:19] <Upu> anyone jealous ?
[22:20] <priyesh> :D
[22:20] <Randomskk> so jelly
[22:20] <priyesh> we only have 1 gopro
[22:20] <Upu> 6 of them
[22:20] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:20] <priyesh> 1 is good enough :P
[22:20] <Upu> 3 in each payload
[22:20] <Lunar_Lander> I want to see James!
[22:20] <priyesh> nice
[22:20] <Lunar_Lander> ohh nice cola with ice
[22:20] <priyesh> did they let you keep a copy of the footage?
[22:20] <Upu> that was mine :)
[22:20] <Upu> no
[22:21] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Not doing things by halves, are they....
[22:21] <Upu> there was alot 6 cameras @ 3 hours each
[22:21] <priyesh> yeah
[22:21] <priyesh> our 1 gopro had like 11-13gb on it
[22:21] <priyesh> i can imagine
[22:21] <Upu> you can see James in that picture
[22:21] <Upu> hes the hair above the Evian bottle
[22:21] <Upu> :)
[22:22] <priyesh> which trackers did you use on the balloons?
[22:23] <Upu> 2 of Rob's Icarus boards with different call signs
[22:23] <Upu> and different frequencies
[22:23] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[22:23] <priyesh> nice :)
[22:24] <natrium42> Upu: check the tracker ;)
[22:24] <Upu> Haha
[22:24] <Upu> epic
[22:24] <NigeyS> pmsl nice 1
[22:25] <Upu> leave that on till he sees it :)
[22:25] <fsphil> haha
[22:26] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:26] <natrium42> :D
[22:28] <Upu> right well thanks again everyone
[22:29] <Upu> I'm calling it a night been a long day
[22:29] <Upu> Upu going QRT o7
[22:30] <NigeyS> nn upu
[22:31] <Lunar_Lander> gn8 Upu
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