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[05:12] <kristianpaul> okay, where is that algorythm to control a GP2021-like ic..
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[07:24] <mattltm> Mornin all
[07:24] <Upu> morning Matt_soton
[07:24] <Upu> err
[07:24] <Upu> mattltm
[07:24] <Upu> morning RocketBoy
[07:24] <Upu> get those instructions ?
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[07:28] <Upu> morning Rob
[07:29] <mattltm> Looks like I missed out on the great speedtest challange :(
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[07:30] <rjharrison> mattltm for what it was worth yes :-)
[07:30] <rjharrison> moring Upu
[07:30] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=de9bf94b0ac24badbdd317d23bbd4a059a88adc0
[07:30] <rjharrison> any better today Upu?
[07:30] <Upu> so so
[07:31] <Upu> my concern is the burst altitude is probably not accurate
[07:32] <mattltm> Oh well, just for the hell of it >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1398209443.png
[07:32] <Upu> if thats a leased line get your money back :)
[07:32] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=288eb2bd9edbfab204639fd1a5cf5b1605829405
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[07:33] <mattltm> Upu, that on the end of a 10Km wireless connection :)
[07:34] <rjharrison> Upu, yep it's tricky and a bit annoying all at the same time
[07:35] <Upu> I'll check later on but if it hasn't improved I may just call it and do it another weekend
[07:35] <rjharrison> it needs to change really with landing some way to the east
[07:35] <Upu> yeah
[07:35] <Upu> early this week was great, only went 10 miles from the launch site
[07:36] <rjharrison> between goole and scunthorpe ideally
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[07:38] <Upu> mind you better than if I launched from here : http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=739e64f6bda1315d65ae91e4921b0a913b829eba :)
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[08:00] Action: fsphil steals Darkside's laptop and mattltm's wireless
[08:00] <fsphil> muhaha
[08:01] <mattltm> lol. Hi fsphil :)
[08:01] <LazyLeopard> ello
[08:01] <LazyLeopard> any news on Upu's launch?
[08:01] <Upu> not looking great atm
[08:01] <Upu> Mattlm is that Metronet UK by any chance ?
[08:02] <Upu> LazyLeopard all the predicions have it coming over Leeds area
[08:02] <LazyLeopard> No change there, then :(
[08:03] <Upu> no strong southerly
[08:03] <Upu> and looking at the weather its not likely to change any time soon
[08:03] <LazyLeopard> Ho hum. NOTAM come through?
[08:03] <Upu> yeah
[08:03] <Upu> at about 3PM on yesterday
[08:04] <LazyLeopard> Riiight.
[08:04] <LazyLeopard> How long's it for?
[08:04] <Upu> 6 hour window tommorrow :)
[08:04] <LazyLeopard> ...and just tomorrow?
[08:04] <Upu> yep
[08:05] <LazyLeopard> Fingers crossed, then.
[08:05] <Upu> indeed
[08:05] <fsphil> why just one day?
[08:06] <Upu> felt it was the easiest way of getting one, also its a festival we are/were meant to be launching at
[08:06] <mattltm> Upu: The line supplier?
[08:06] <fsphil> ah
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[08:07] <Upu> yeah sorry probably not actually
[08:07] <mattltm> Nope.
[08:07] <mattltm> We have 2 lines that terminate in a cisco router and run our own BGP.
[08:07] <LazyLeopard> Ah. Any scope for under- or over-filling to shift the landing zone enough?
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[08:11] <fsphil> If you launch at 14:00 UTC it predicts a landing in fields
[08:12] <fsphil> assumes it bursts on schedule
[08:12] <fsphil> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=6ca47198bf1c7702435a74adc95a6ea23ca2abf4
[08:13] <fsphil> which it probably won't with that ascent
[08:14] <fsphil> though even a burst of 26km has it landing in a rural area
[08:14] <fsphil> er
[08:14] <fsphil> non-rural
[08:15] <Randomskk> :( home: 7 down, 0.4up
[08:15] <Randomskk> uni: 100mbps JANET connection
[08:16] <fsphil> hehe: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/july2011/spanish_balloon_launch.htm
[08:16] <fsphil> I'm not sure they've done their sums right
[08:19] <number10> how do you calculate assent rate?
[08:20] <rjharrison> hope they have walking boots http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=46e4847b9ac029a54be38a8df5695523ac2784d3
[08:21] <fsphil> oooch!
[08:22] <fsphil> number10, the predictor has a calculator for working it out
[08:22] <fsphil> there's also a standalone version
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[08:22] <fsphil> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/calc/
[08:23] <fsphil> suddenly my last landing site isn't so bad :)
[08:24] <number10> chhers fsphil I'll take a look
[08:25] <fsphil> rjharrison, looks like that ran a prediction a few days ago - and it went south
[08:26] <fsphil> that/they
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[08:28] <LazyLeopard> Heh. That one's not far from http://www.sotawatch.org/summits.php?summit=EA2/NV-092
[08:29] <LazyLeopard> I had a contact with EA2BD/p on top of that summit on Thursday. ;)
[08:29] <fsphil> sweet
[08:29] <fsphil> my last contact was someone in .nl
[08:29] <fsphil> psk-61 :)
[08:30] <Upu> fsphil yes to that prediction however with these Hwoyee balloons the burst altitude is effectively unknown variable at the moment, especially for slow ascents
[08:30] <LazyLeopard> Oops. Mis-read the map!
[08:31] <LazyLeopard> It's near http://www.sotawatch.org/summits.php?summit=EA2/VI-032
[08:31] <fsphil> true Upu, though the burst altitude doesn't seem to be changing the landing spot that much
[08:31] <Upu> I'll check again after lunch
[08:32] <LazyLeopard> ...and http://www.sotawatch.org/summits.php?summit=EA2/VI-026
[08:34] <LazyLeopard> Ah. Chances of a repeat of Infinity's performance, then?
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[08:36] <fsphil> they do seem to be reluctant to burst
[08:37] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... A case for faster ascents, then?
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[08:46] <daveake> My launch was a Hyowee, and the burst altitude was very close to the prediction on that calculator
[08:46] <daveake> Hwoyee even
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[09:46] <Darkside> \o
[09:47] <WillDuckworth> hey Darkside, what gps are you using for you oribit project?
[09:47] <WillDuckworth> your
[09:52] <Darkside> Novatel OEMV-1DF, space rated version
[09:53] <Darkside> Cost: 2500 pounds
[09:54] <WillDuckworth> nice n pricey ;)
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[11:48] <NigelMoby> Afternoon
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[12:04] <fsphil> yoyo
[12:05] <NigelMoby> Hey Phil
[12:07] <fsphil> what's up on this fine sunny day?
[12:07] <NigelMoby> Not a lot, still trying to get helium
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[12:12] <fsphil> shame, I've a tank here doing nothing
[12:12] <NigelMoby> Lol no fair!
[12:18] <fsphil> your welcome to it, if you can collect it :)
[12:19] <NigelMoby> Sure ill jump on the next peddle boat
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[12:33] <LazyLeopard> What do those things weigh? Easier to take the balloon to the gas tank than the gas tank to the balloon, I guess...
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[12:35] <NigelMoby> Bout 20kg I think...
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[12:37] <LazyLeopard> Ah. Quite small, then.
[12:41] <fsphil> heafty enough
[12:44] <LazyLeopard> ...but one person can carry it, I guess.
[12:44] <SamSilver> tis heavy enough to strain your valve
[12:46] <SamSilver> I an 6 foot 6 and have always used a mate when carrying a T cylinder of propane
[12:46] <SamSilver> am
[12:53] <Upu> rjharrison you about ?
[12:53] <Upu> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=9769b40ad585f040946c03da097b96459fb9e2de
[12:53] <rjharrison> yep
[12:54] <rjharrison> 144.650
[12:54] <Upu> 1 sec
[13:06] <fsphil> someone cutting their grass -- making a lot of radio noise :)
[13:08] <mattltm> Hey all :)
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[13:27] <griffonbot> @AnthonyStirk: AVA launch cancelled this weekend due to unfavourable prediction #ukhas [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/94760666111549440]
[13:28] <Randomskk> :(
[13:28] <mattltm> That makes me sad :(
[13:28] <Upu> Never mind
[13:28] <rjharrison> upu just going to do a bit of garding fir a couple of hours
[13:28] <Upu> no problems rjharrison
[13:29] <Upu> have fun :)
[13:30] <Upu> thanks for the QSO earlier will see if we can get that sorted
[13:31] <rjharrison> Upu, that would be most awsume. It's about time we had something sorted for up here
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[13:59] <rjharrison> Upu you about?
[14:07] <Darkside> hey all
[14:07] <Darkside> who was AVA?
[14:07] <mattltm> Hi Darkside :)
[14:08] <mattltm> Upu me thinks.
[14:08] <Darkside> oh yeah, i made a ghetto 1/4 wave ground plane for my FCD today :P
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[14:09] <mattltm> cool.
[14:20] <rjharrison> Darkside upu
[14:21] <Darkside> ahhh
[14:21] <Darkside> :<
[14:21] <Darkside> also: http://pipe2.darklomax.org/pics/2011-07-23_More_Bath_Wanderings/
[14:21] <Darkside> SQUIRRELS
[14:21] <Darkside> !
[14:21] <Darkside> (we don't have squirrels in australia)
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[14:27] <LazyLeopard> You don't want them, either! ;)
[14:27] <LazyLeopard> Wretched arboreal rats!
[14:27] <Darkside> lol
[14:28] <Darkside> but they are sooo cute
[14:28] <LazyLeopard> The red ones are cuter
[14:29] <LazyLeopard> ...but rare and getting rarer.
[14:29] <mattltm> And they taste nice with chips :)
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[14:30] <Darkside> http://i.imgur.com/9PEsX.jpg
[14:31] <mattltm> very nice.
[14:31] <Darkside> :P
[14:31] <Darkside> sooo dodgy
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[14:37] <Darkside> is there a UK register of radiofrequency licenses?
[14:37] <Darkside> and transmit site locations, etc?
[14:38] <mattltm> For what Darkside?
[14:39] <mattltm> We have the wireless telegraphy register for some things..
[14:39] <mattltm> http://spectruminfo.ofcom.org.uk/spectrumInfo/licences
[14:39] <Darkside> like, if there is a radio tower somewhere, is there a way i cn find out whats being transmitted from it
[14:39] <Darkside> aha
[14:39] <mattltm> Its out of date and in bad shape, just like the org that runs it.
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[15:01] <NigelMoby> Boom boom
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[15:02] <Darkside> hey NigelMoby
[15:02] <NigelMoby> Hey dude
[15:02] <Darkside> any word on helium?
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[15:02] <NigelMoby> Nope, looks like its gonna b next week :(
[15:02] <Darkside> damn ok
[15:02] <rjharrison> NigelMoby you up tomorrow?
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[15:03] <rjharrison> NigelMoby hum I have helium here :-)
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[15:03] <NigelMoby> No helium rob, can't get it from Boc till Monday
[15:03] <mattltm> Nigey!!!
[15:04] <NigelMoby> Lol every1 has helium ... Gonna cry
[15:04] <NigelMoby> Matt!!!
[15:04] <mattltm> I need help :(
[15:04] <NigelMoby> Ure bot broke?
[15:07] <NigelMoby> Darkside if prolly enjoy a trip to tintern abbey
[15:07] <rjharrison> NigelMoby can't you go to a balloon shop and fill them
[15:07] <NigelMoby> You'd
[15:07] <Darkside> NigelMoby: wheres that?
[15:08] <Darkside> rjharrison: hahaha oh man, thats a good idea
[15:08] <NigelMoby> Nah rob, most of them use the air mix stuff
[15:08] <Darkside> aww
[15:10] <NigelMoby> Darkside its in chepstow
[15:30] <kristianpaul> any one have comments about funcubedongle for receiving balloon telemetry? suguested anntenas, setup and such?
[15:31] <Darkside> uhmm
[15:31] <Darkside> same antenna as you'd normally use
[15:31] <Darkside> if the balloon is transmitting USB, you can just set dl-fldigi to use the funcube's sound card directly
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[15:42] <NigeyS> thats better
[15:42] <fsphil> tried that Darkside.. fldigi can only use the very edge of the fcd's bandpass, it's not very sensitive
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[15:52] <rjharrison> Some pyro manufacture pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/30721501@N05/5965538418/in/photostream/
[15:52] <Randomskk> wow, industrialising or what? :)
[15:53] <Randomskk> you should rig them to a panel covered in switches and then go crazy and detonate them in sequence, it'd be loads of fun
[15:53] <rjharrison> Hey Randomskk
[15:53] <Randomskk> though a bit wasteful :P
[15:53] <rjharrison> lol
[15:53] <rjharrison> Can we add a notam page to habhub
[15:53] <fsphil> make a good alarm clock
[15:54] <Randomskk> sure, uhm
[15:54] <rjharrison> I'm hoping that we night get a NOTAM issued soon and it would be good to have a URL pointing to lauch dates
[15:54] <NigeyS> bloody hell rob lol
[15:54] <Randomskk> oh, I see what you mean
[15:54] <Randomskk> uhm
[15:54] <Randomskk> we should probably discuss that actually
[15:54] <Randomskk> like, NOTAMs
[15:54] <Randomskk> there's been some chat about the cusf one that would be relevant to you if you're setting up a long-running one
[15:55] <rjharrison> eg NOTAMID, LAUNCH DATE TIME, LOCATION, CONTACT
[15:55] <Randomskk> so basically the thing we all do is actually two things
[15:55] <rjharrison> Typically it would look something like
[15:55] <Randomskk> one is applying for permission to launch
[15:56] <Randomskk> two is having a NOTAM issued
[15:56] <Randomskk> the NOTAM is not a legal requirement, it's just the thing telling pilots you'll be releasing
[15:56] <Randomskk> the permission to launch is the official looking PDF document he emails you
[15:56] <Randomskk> the two are separate
[15:56] <Randomskk> (so everyone just saying NOTAM is basically just being shorthand, but anyway)
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[15:56] <Randomskk> thing is, having a NOTAM live 24/7 for six months annoys a lot of pilots
[15:56] <Randomskk> as most of the time we're not launching
[15:56] <rjharrison> R10-01-0082 NO LAUNCHS PLANNED IN THE NEXT 7 DAYS 52,344 -1,23
[15:57] <Randomskk> and it isn't required to have a NOTAM live just because you have permission to launch
[15:57] <Randomskk> so it would be much better for everyone if in fact the NOTAM was issued just before (it can be the night before) a launch
[15:57] <Randomskk> while the /permission/ continues the entire time
[15:57] <Randomskk> the CAA contact wouldn't have to get involved in NOTAM issuing
[15:57] <Randomskk> and it shouldn't take any time at all, it's an automated system
[15:58] <rjharrison> Ahh I'm with you so we have the 6M permission and then shout for a NOTAM b4 launch
[15:58] <Randomskk> anyway some pilots and companies have been in touch with cusf to try and get us to do that, as right now it's really difficult for them apparently
[15:58] <Randomskk> either they have to check the website or phone us every time they fly, or give up, assume we're not launching, and then the NOTAM serves no purpose and people are potentially at risk when we do
[15:58] <rjharrison> Well that's easy enough
[15:58] <Randomskk> yea except
[15:59] <Randomskk> 1- I don't know how to get the CAA to not put up a 6 month NOTAM, I guess just asking will do
[15:59] <rjharrison> Provided that it's automated we could just login and fill in NOTAM details based on permisson paper
[15:59] <Randomskk> 2- I don't know how to put up our own NOTAMs, one of the companies contacting us has offered to do so or link us into their system or something but nothing's setup yet
[16:01] <Randomskk> uhm but to answer your question yes, it's definitely no problem to put a page up on habhub, would it just be for your NOTAM for the time being or what?
[16:01] <Darkside> http://i.imgur.com/yi51w.jpg
[16:01] <Darkside> there we go, one major addition to the silkscreen artwork :P
[16:01] <rjharrison> Randomskk, the idea woud be for all notam for HAB to point to this so the world can see what we're actually doing
[16:02] <rjharrison> But the NOTAM issue 2 days before launch would sort that out
[16:02] <Randomskk> probably want one page per NOTAM to avoid confusing pilots
[16:02] <rjharrison> Yep
[16:03] <rjharrison> www.habhub.org/notam.php?id=12345
[16:03] <rjharrison> eg
[16:03] <NigeyS> haha Darkside that's neat !
[16:03] <Randomskk> rjharrison: I'd probably make it as easy as possible to put on a notam
[16:04] <rjharrison> Darkside, cool
[16:04] <number10> robert would you mind answering a q about the black stuff in the release mechanism - do you or a mate have another hobby that anables you to purchase?
[16:04] <Randomskk> bear in mind they get all-capsd
[16:04] <rjharrison> number10, it's smokless powder I think you can get from a gun shop without licence
[16:04] <rjharrison> You will need to check this
[16:05] <rjharrison> I have .5kg which is enough for a lifetime of habing
[16:05] <number10> I thought it was as I remeber a gamekeeper using it -
[16:05] <rjharrison> costs about 27 pounds iirc
[16:05] <number10> I'll check the local shop
[16:06] <rjharrison> note i glue the thread in so i don't have to drill with explosive in
[16:06] <number10> whats the diameter and length?
[16:06] <Randomskk> drilling something with explosive is such a bad idea :P
[16:06] <number10> sounds sensible
[16:06] <rjharrison> I'm going to write a guide but 40mm dia 10mm with 2mm walls
[16:07] <number10> cheers
[16:07] <rjharrison> those pics will be in teh guide
[16:07] <number10> did you pruchase those spanish matches in the end?
[16:07] <rjharrison> Not yet
[16:07] <rjharrison> Just need to be sure that I'm goign to get some of my dosh back by selling them
[16:08] <number10> Iyes I saw the thread - I would be interested
[16:08] <number10> I cleaned out the local toy shop of estes ignighters for my millenium firework night - but cost a lot
[16:10] <rjharrison> I get 2400 for about 680 pounds making them very cheap. Upu is going to pice up haulage
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[16:10] <rjharrison> price
[16:10] <rjharrison> I may bring a few hundered to the HAB convention
[16:11] <rjharrison> No postage cost then
[16:11] <number10> have u a link to the convention date and location?
[16:11] <rjharrison> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/general:ukhasconference
[16:12] <number10> ta
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[16:18] <NigeyS> !place
[16:18] <HAMBotty> NigeyS, sorry, I don't have any stats about you.
[16:18] <NigeyS> charming
[16:20] <Randomskk> !place
[16:20] <Randomskk> :|
[16:20] <HAMBotty> Randomskk is on place #8 out of 289.
[16:21] <rjharrison> !place
[16:21] <HAMBotty> rjharrison is on place #22 out of 289.
[16:21] <Randomskk> !top10
[16:21] <HAMBotty> Top10(words): 1. fsphil(37567) 2. SpeedEvil(24898) 3. eroomde(23959) 4. Darkside(21347) 5. cuddykid(20468) 6. Lunar_Lander(19990) 7. Dan-K2VOL(19867) 8. Randomskk(18921) 9. Upu(18608) 10. Laurenceb(17276)
[16:21] <Randomskk> only a few k away from 5th!
[16:21] <Darkside> lol i'm #4
[16:21] <NigeyS> !stat NigeyS
[16:21] <HAMBotty> NigeyS: 9069 words, 46803 letters, 45 smilies, time wasted: 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours 18 minutes .
[16:22] <rjharrison> !stat rjharrison
[16:22] <HAMBotty> rjharrison: 4377 words, 23663 letters, 15 smilies, time wasted: 6 days 15 hours 32 minutes .
[16:22] <Darkside> !stat Darkside
[16:22] <HAMBotty> Darkside: 21352 words, 112808 letters, 169 smilies, time wasted: 10 weeks 3 days 17 hours 59 minutes .
[16:22] <Darkside> 10 weeks >_>
[16:22] <rjharrison> lol
[16:22] <rjharrison> you need to get a life
[16:22] <NigeyS> wow lol
[16:22] <LazyLeopard> !stat LazyLeopard
[16:22] <HAMBotty> LazyLeopard: 2639 words, 15032 letters, 42 smilies, time wasted: 2 weeks 8 hours 38 minutes .
[16:23] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Worse than I thought... ;)
[16:23] <NigeyS> http://www.nigey.co.uk/ircstats/index-ha.html
[16:28] <number10> I'm not in the top ten, strange I'll have to change my nick and try and remember where that life I am supposed to have is!
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[16:40] <number10> from the stats - smea couldn't decide whether to stay or go. 368 joins during this reporting period!
[16:40] <smea> :(
[16:40] <NigeyS> lol
[16:40] <NigeyS> hey smea
[16:40] <number10> sorry :(
[16:40] <smea> :P
[16:40] <smea> hi
[16:41] <NigeyS> any amy winehouse fans ?
[16:42] <number10> if thats an off liscence yes
[16:42] <NigeyS> lol noo the singer
[16:42] <NigeyS> Singer Amy Winehouse, 27, has been found dead at her home, the Press Association reports.
[16:42] <number10> oh, ;-)
[16:42] <number10> really
[16:43] <NigeyS> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14262237
[16:45] <number10> should not speculate but seems to happen to a few successful pop stars
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[16:58] <SpeedEvil> No, No, NO!
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[18:09] <rjharrison> ping DanielRichman
[18:09] <rjharrison> or Randomskk
[18:10] <rjharrison> or indeed any one who is familiar with uC programming preferable 328ps
[18:10] <Darkside> mm?
[18:10] <rjharrison> You going to bite
[18:11] <Darkside> i usually drop the arduino bootloader on them to make life easier
[18:11] <Darkside> but anyway
[18:11] <Darkside> do not ask to ask, just ask
[18:11] <rjharrison> Ok im diabling the interrupt to do one wire reading of the temp sensor
[18:11] <rjharrison> this is for about 650us
[18:11] <Darkside> are you programming bare metal or arduino
[18:11] <rjharrison> Bare
[18:11] <Darkside> ok
[18:12] <Darkside> when i did this, i pulled in the onewire and dallastemperature libraries
[18:12] <Darkside> and used the avr-g++ compiler instead of avr-gcc
[18:12] <rjharrison> now i'm rx from the GPS at 4800 baud
[18:12] <rjharrison> oh no avr-gcc
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[18:12] <Darkside> you'll loose bytes if you disableinterrupts
[18:12] <rjharrison> ah this is the question
[18:12] <Darkside> i always get around that by using the uBlox's polled mode
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[18:13] <Darkside> so the main loop polls the gps, polls the semp sensors, then transmits
[18:13] <rjharrison> But if i'm out for 650us and eech bit is aproximatly 2000us then the buffer of 2 bytes should be enough?
[18:14] <Darkside> if you're disabling the interrupt it won't collect the byte from the RXDATA register
[18:14] <rjharrison> correct but won't it get it after the interrupt
[18:15] <Darkside> not if another bytes comes in beforehand
[18:15] <rjharrison> yep but if im out for only a few bits then in theory I shouldn't miss the byte ir it will be in the buffer
[18:15] <Darkside> in theory
[18:15] <rjharrison> hehe it seems to be working
[18:15] <Darkside> depends at what point it happens
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[18:16] <Darkside> other option is to make the onewire system use an interrupt based TX/RX mechanism
[18:16] <NigeyS> evening! how fun is babysitting.. meh
[18:16] <Darkside> i don't know enough about the 1-wire protocol to know how to code that
[18:16] <rjharrison> cli() 650ms sei() might have missed one myte but it should be in the buffer
[18:18] <Darkside> ideally
[18:19] <Darkside> not always
[18:20] <Darkside> what GPS are you using?
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[18:24] <number10> has anyone used I2C temp sensor MCP9800 from microchip
[18:27] <rjharrison> lassen iq
[18:30] <Darkside> ahhhhh
[18:31] <Darkside> rjharrison: other option is to keep reading until you have a complete sentence
[18:31] <Darkside> worst case of another second
[18:31] <DanielRichman> I thought about writing an onewire driver using interrupts only. I don't htink it's practical: onewire is too fast, by the time you've interrupted you'll have missed it
[18:31] <rjharrison> yep i do that Darkside
[18:31] <rjharrison> thanks DanielRichman
[18:31] <DanielRichman> rjharrison: to get around the problem on ALIEN i had it wait until it was 0.5seconds after receiving a sentence to do onewire
[18:32] <DanielRichman> so the chances were the gps was going to be silent
[18:32] <rjharrison> DanielRichman ok
[18:32] <rjharrison> cool
[18:32] <Darkside> send request for conversion , get serial data, then read the data from the temp sensor
[18:32] <DanielRichman> yes, that too. 650ms does seem like a lot
[18:32] <Darkside> 650ms?
[18:32] <Darkside> or us
[18:32] <DanielRichman> oh us.
[18:33] <Darkside> we have some fun ahead of us with our TOPCAT payload
[18:33] <Darkside> we need to respond to I2C requests within 1ms
[18:34] <number10> i did like the silk screen Darkside
[18:34] <Darkside> heh
[18:34] <Darkside> we figured we should include topcat :P
[18:36] <rjharrison> DanielRichman i'm down to diable for 75us and this is so short i'm sure th 2 char uart buffer can hold the data
[18:36] <rjharrison> diable disable
[18:37] <DanielRichman> cool
[18:47] <rjharrison> yep 75us interrupt dissable and at 4800 baud each bit is 1/4800 = 0.000208s buffer holds at least 8 bits in worst case probably more so if i'm out for 0.000075 if that is 75 us then I think I'm safe about loosing any GPS data at 4800 baud
[18:51] <rjharrison> DanielRichman, does that logic sort of floow?
[18:51] <rjharrison> follow even
[18:52] <fsphil> does the uart work when interrupts are disabled?
[18:52] <rjharrison> fsphilteh buffer should
[18:52] <Darkside> i thought it was only a single byte register
[18:53] <rjharrison> fsphil the buffer should work still that i think is what the buffer is for :-)
[18:53] <rjharrison> I could very well be wrong
[18:53] <DanielRichman> yes the uart should work fine while interrupts are disabled
[18:54] <DanielRichman> rjharrison: sounds good to me providing the numbers are correct
[18:54] <fsphil> just pondering
[18:54] <Darkside> so no launches this weekend :(
[18:55] <fsphil> not looking like it
[18:55] <Darkside> :<
[18:55] <fsphil> well, apart from that spanish one
[18:55] <Darkside> i want to test out my ghetto antenna :P
[18:55] <number10> what up hardware are you using - dies it have hardware uart?
[18:56] <Darkside> number10: its a atmega328p
[18:56] <number10> dies == does
[18:56] <Darkside> so yes
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[18:57] <number10> I was wondering why people are worried about buffereing a couple of bytes on a serial link if they were using a hardware uart
[18:58] <rjharrison> number10, the buffer is only 2 chars
[18:58] <rjharrison> The Data OverRun (DORn) Flag indicates data loss due to a receiver buffer full condition. A
[18:58] <rjharrison> Data OverRun occurs when the receive buffer is full (two characters), it is a new character waiting
[18:58] <rjharrison> in the Receive Shift Register, and a new start bit is detected. If the DORn Flag is set there
[18:58] <rjharrison> was one or more serial frame lost between the frame last read from UDRn, and the next frame
[18:58] <rjharrison> read from UDRn. For compatibility with future devices, always write this bit to zero when writing
[18:58] <rjharrison> to UCSRnA. The DORn Flag is cleared when the frame received was successfully moved from
[18:59] <rjharrison> the Shift Register to the receive buffer.
[18:59] <rjharrison> opps
[18:59] <rjharrison> wrong app
[18:59] <number10> cant read that fast
[18:59] <rjharrison> http://pastebin.com/ByPGwbxE
[19:02] <rjharrison> Not very exciting
[19:03] <number10> I think I joined conversation 1/2 way through - so dont really know what processors or peripherals you are talking about
[19:03] <natrium42> hi rjharrison
[19:03] <natrium42> did you get tracker working?
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[19:04] <rjharrison> Yep bloody DNS issure
[19:04] <natrium42> aah, great
[19:04] <rjharrison> and ajax nor being allowed to run
[19:04] <rjharrison> resolved to robertharriosn.org not www.robertharrison.org
[19:05] <rjharrison> set config.php to robertharrison.org all happy
[19:05] <rjharrison> will fix dns at some point
[19:05] <rjharrison> thanks natrium42
[19:05] <rjharrison> Trust you are well
[19:06] <natrium42> yeah, just travelling a lot lately
[19:06] <natrium42> how are you?
[19:06] <rjharrison> number10 328p and ds1821 onewire
[19:06] <rjharrison> natrium42 alot better than I was last year
[19:06] <rjharrison> headackes are more under control
[19:06] <rjharrison> hence a return to HAB
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[19:07] <rjharrison> Need to get my UK record back been broken 3 times in the last month and i held it for a good couple of years
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[19:09] <natrium42> rjharrison: great to hear! any launches planned?
[19:09] Action: natrium42 just came back from a launch
[19:09] <natrium42> jkominar launched
[19:10] <natrium42> was found on the side of a road
[19:10] <natrium42> apparently it was on the road and some person moved it away from traffic
[19:11] <natrium42> and left a voice message
[19:11] <natrium42> aprs worked great tho
[19:11] <natrium42> bbl
[19:11] <rjharrison> any pics
[19:11] <natrium42> yeah, they're planning to do a write up
[19:11] <rjharrison> cool let us know
[19:11] <rjharrison> ttfn
[19:12] <natrium42> camera fogged up a bit
[19:12] <rjharrison> hehe mine always does for a while
[19:12] <natrium42> but then cleared up
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[20:46] <LL> evening
[20:46] <LL> how's life?
[20:47] <fsphil> hihihi
[20:47] <LL> today was not so good
[20:48] <LL> AdAware found a trojan where there was no trojan before, then I suspected a keylogger and simply formatted the system
[20:48] <LL> probably I overreacted
[20:49] <fsphil> nah -- unplugging the PC and throwing it out the window, and pouring concrete over it would be over reacting
[20:50] <LL> xD
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[20:54] <LL> but now
[20:54] <LL> I changed my E-Mail PW
[20:54] <LL> and forgot it!!
[21:00] <fsphil> d'oh!
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[21:05] <NigeyS> evening habbers
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[21:07] <jcoxon> evening
[21:07] <jcoxon> NigeyS, you launching then?
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[21:12] <rjharrison> eveing jcoxon
[21:12] <Darkside> jcoxon: he can't get any gas
[21:12] <Darkside> unless he has found a source now?
[21:12] <rjharrison> bendover ;-)
[21:13] <Darkside> >_>
[21:13] <jcoxon> :-(
[21:13] <jonsowman> lol
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[21:22] <rjharrison> jcoxon, check out the test data http://robertharrison.org/tracker/
[21:23] <rjharrison> just about to complete a 6hr stress test
[21:27] <NigeyS> hey jcoxon no gas, have to be next sunday now
[21:29] <jcoxon> rjharrison, oh cool
[21:29] <jcoxon> NigeyS, that makes me sad
[21:29] <NigeyS> me to! meant to be good weather tomorrow aswell :(
[21:29] <jcoxon> you checked out local shops
[21:30] <jcoxon> a d30 canister would cover you i suspect
[21:30] <jcoxon> they are sold in tescos iirc
[21:30] <NigeyS> yup, i tried clintons to
[21:30] <rjharrison> jcoxon, it's a flight around 0,0 from 0 to 100km covers a few common errors
[21:31] <rjharrison> Documented on the common errors page on ukhas
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[21:31] <rjharrison> hi RocketBoy did you rescure teh bird
[21:31] <rjharrison> rescue the bird even
[21:32] <RocketBoy> yeah - I managed to separate the cat from the bird for a few mins and it flew off
[21:32] <RocketBoy> When the cat gets one he likes to play a bit before killing it
[21:32] <Upu> evening
[21:32] <RocketBoy> so if you can get in quick then no harm done
[21:33] <Upu> get the link to iPhone tracker RocketBoy ?
[21:33] <rjharrison> Have flood tested the ds1821 code and it's seems to be ok up to 19200 baud
[21:33] <rjharrison> I havent tested past there
[21:33] <Upu> recieving you btw Rob
[21:34] <rjharrison> on 075 or 144.650
[21:34] <Upu> 075
[21:34] <RocketBoy> upu - yep thanks - still haven't done it yet
[21:34] <rjharrison> Still freakes me on that
[21:34] <Upu> wife asleep in bedroom next door so I'll stay off radio atm :)
[21:34] <RocketBoy> been a bit busy fixing other stuff like the daughters washing machine
[21:34] <rjharrison> sure NP
[21:34] <RocketBoy> CQ CQ CQ ...
[21:35] <NigeyS> hehe
[21:35] <Upu> I've never said that
[21:35] <NigeyS> hey Steve
[21:35] <RocketBoy> he NigeyS
[21:35] <Upu> Normally I fumble my call sign and just say listening :)
[21:35] <rjharrison> hehe RocketBoy it's greate having Upu 10 liles away LOS for radio testing.
[21:35] <rjharrison> He picks up my testing off a paper clip on the desk
[21:35] <RocketBoy> a great help
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[21:37] <rjharrison> RocketBoy thanks for the convo. earlier
[21:38] <rjharrison> intersting to note the PIC is very similar to the atmels
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[21:52] <rjharrison> has anyone tried something like this in their code
[21:52] <rjharrison> http://pastebin.com/eYRjmvPg
[21:52] <rjharrison> I'm trying to tidy up all my hab stuff and the pre-processor directives have proven to be quite effective
[21:54] <Randomskk> there are arguments against long complicated macros in c
[21:54] <Randomskk> but to be honest on embedded platforms, perfectly useful
[21:56] <jonsowman> uip seems to be pretty fond :P
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[21:58] <RocketBoy> rjharrison: I noted that there are quite a few similarities
[21:59] <rjharrison> Randomskk, I'm no expert by any means but it has removed alot of repetative code.
[21:59] <RocketBoy> PIC - atmel
[21:59] <rjharrison> RocketBoy yep is the pic still four cpu cycles per inst
[21:59] <Randomskk> yea definitely
[21:59] <Randomskk> it's useful
[21:59] <Randomskk> uip is basically one macro
[22:00] <jonsowman> tell me about it D:
[22:00] <Randomskk> uip_dont_work_()
[22:00] <Randomskk> well UIP_DONT_WORK
[22:00] <jonsowman> i don't need that one atm
[22:00] <RocketBoy> It even looked like the crystal was connected to the same pinout to me
[22:00] <jonsowman> uip_process() is a beast
[22:00] <rjharrison> uip ???
[22:01] <Randomskk> tcp/ip stack for embedded platforms
[22:01] <Randomskk> also a bit of a pain to get working
[22:01] <rjharrison> ooh
[22:01] <Randomskk> I was doing it on PIC as a job this christmas and now jonsowman is having a whole load of fun doing it on an avr
[22:01] <jonsowman> Randomskk: 1205 line function!
[22:01] <rjharrison> I'll leave that for when we have two way coms working
[22:01] <Randomskk> hehe tcp/ip to balloon nodes would be pretty cool
[22:01] <jonsowman> that's too many lines for one function :(
[22:02] <Randomskk> anyway yea doing what you're doing for debug stuff is an accepted pattern rjharrison, so go ahead, it works really well
[22:02] <Randomskk> jonsowman: yea :(
[22:02] <rjharrison> I think i have heard of carrier pidgen tcp/ip
[22:02] <Randomskk> it is quite well commented at least
[22:02] <jonsowman> true
[22:02] <jonsowman> <3 doxygen
[22:02] <Randomskk> rjharrison: haha I think using HABs for delivering individual packets would take even IPoAC to a whole new level
[22:02] <Randomskk> was it IPoAC? something over avian carrier anyway
[22:03] <rjharrison> proably get in the reg for that
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[22:03] <jonsowman> yeah RFC 1149
[22:03] <rjharrison> Register
[22:03] <jonsowman> IPoAC
[22:03] <rjharrison> lol
[22:04] <jonsowman> A typical MTU is 256 milligrams.
[22:04] <jonsowman> "Audit trails are automatically generated, and can often be found on logs and cable trays."
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[22:05] <RocketBoy> new broadband is up and down like a yoyo
[22:05] <Upu> yeah you were very choppy this morning
[22:05] <Randomskk> jonsowman: :D
[22:05] <Randomskk> have you read the extension RFC
[22:05] <Randomskk> released the year after maybe
[22:06] <Randomskk> details routers and stuff
[22:06] <jonsowman> Randomskk: haha yeah
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