highaltitude.log.20110514

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[04:37] <griffonbot> @nearsys: Updated NearSys website with latest flights. See http://nearsys.com/arhab/flightdata/2011/index.htm #ARHAB [http://twitter.com/nearsys/status/69260105333489664]
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[06:06] <natrium42> uh... ok
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[06:30] <jcoxon> ping natrium42
[06:33] <natrium42> yo
[06:33] <natrium42> waiting to board flight to london :)
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[06:36] <jcoxon> natrium42, ooo cool
[06:36] <jcoxon> when do you arrive?
[06:36] <jcoxon> natrium42, i'm disappointed that we can't track you on spacenear.us
[06:37] <natrium42> rofl
[06:37] <natrium42> i couldn't find my spot2 when i was leaving...
[06:37] <jcoxon> what flight number?
[06:37] <natrium42> at 1 pm in lgw
[06:38] <jcoxon> okay
[06:38] <natrium42> vv 225
[06:38] <jcoxon> and what are you plans for your stay
[06:38] <natrium42> going to be there for two nights
[06:38] <natrium42> are you relatively free?
[06:38] <jcoxon> i'm free tomorrow
[06:39] <natrium42> k, cool
[06:39] <jcoxon> i'm seeing my parents today and will be driving to london tomorrow morning
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[06:39] <natrium42> i will email you in the evening then
[06:39] <jcoxon> have brunch with some friends so am then free from about 1200 onwards
[06:39] <natrium42> not sure what my plans are for tomorrow, they are pretty fluid
[06:39] <natrium42> k, cool
[06:39] <jcoxon> their are 2 balloon flights today
[06:40] <jcoxon> there*
[06:41] <natrium42> where from?
[06:41] <jcoxon> cambridge is my understanding
[06:41] <jcoxon> (not me launching)
[06:42] <natrium42> ah
[06:42] <jcoxon> i think they are both around 1200 launch
[06:42] <jcoxon> would need to ask eroomde and rocketbot
[06:45] <natrium42> so, he is a bot after all, i knew it!
[06:45] <jcoxon> oops
[06:45] <jcoxon> indeed
[06:46] <natrium42> things make a lot more sense now :D
[06:46] <jcoxon> natrium42, where are you staying in london?
[06:47] <natrium42> uhm, one sec
[06:48] <natrium42> The The Fox & Goose Hotel
[06:48] <natrium42> any way to get there via public transit?
[06:48] <natrium42> from gatwick?
[06:48] <jcoxon> yeah
[06:48] <jcoxon> you can get the train from gatwick into london
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[06:49] <jcoxon> then get the tube
[06:50] <natrium42> k
[06:50] <natrium42> what station do i need?
[06:50] <jcoxon> though you'll need to change tubes
[06:50] <jcoxon> its quite far out the west side
[06:50] <natrium42> maps should be posted, right?
[06:50] <jcoxon> oh yes
[06:51] <natrium42> i bet it's smaller than moscow metro system :P
[06:51] <jcoxon> its not
[06:51] <natrium42> so which station do i need near the hotel?
[06:51] <jcoxon> i can tell you that
[06:51] <jcoxon> perhaps less confusing though :-)
[06:51] <natrium42> psh :P
[06:51] <jcoxon> looking at hte map the its near Hanger Lane
[06:52] <jcoxon> which is on the central line
[06:52] <jcoxon> did you chose there for a reason?
[06:52] <natrium42> yes
[06:52] <natrium42> :)
[06:52] <jcoxon> okay
[06:52] <natrium42> i just didn't know which station
[06:53] <natrium42> thx
[06:53] <jcoxon> so get the gatwick express to victoria
[06:53] <jcoxon> then get the tube
[06:53] <jcoxon> first the victoria line to oxford cic
[06:53] <jcoxon> oxford circus
[06:53] <jcoxon> then the central line to hanger lane
[06:53] <jcoxon> i recommend getting an oyster card
[06:54] <jcoxon> you'll repay the 3 pounds cost in about 2 journeys
[06:54] <natrium42> k, oyster card, gotcha
[06:54] <jcoxon> and then you'll have an rfid card to play with in the future
[06:54] <jcoxon> also if you want something to do you could visit the london hackspace
[06:55] <natrium42> cool, where is it?
[06:55] <jcoxon> its next to hoxton tube station
[06:55] <jcoxon> which is east london
[06:56] <natrium42> kk
[06:56] <jcoxon> chat with russss as he founded it
[06:56] <natrium42> also, i want to meet the queen :P
[06:56] <natrium42> will you arrange it?
[06:56] <jcoxon> yeah no probs
[06:56] <jcoxon> she DJ's at a club i know
[06:57] <jcoxon> :-p
[06:57] <natrium42> lol
[06:57] <natrium42> what's her stage name?
[06:57] <jcoxon> it something we should repeat on a public channel
[06:57] <jcoxon> ...
[06:57] <jcoxon> hehe
[07:00] <eroomde> morning
[07:01] <jcoxon> hey eroomde
[07:01] <jcoxon> eroomde, you up to anything tomorrow afternoon?
[07:01] <natrium42> hey eroomde
[07:01] <eroomde> jcoxon: not really
[07:01] <natrium42> eroomde: are you free tomorrow too?
[07:01] <eroomde> are you about?
[07:02] <natrium42> starting todayd at 1pm
[07:02] <eroomde> ah cool
[07:02] <natrium42> are you in cam?
[07:02] <eroomde> yes
[07:03] <eroomde> what are your movements?
[07:04] <natrium42> i got two nights
[07:04] <natrium42> would like to see cam, whenever you're free
[07:04] <natrium42> if you could show me around :)_
[07:04] <natrium42> like spots where chicks hang out :D
[07:05] <eroomde> ah cool! yes well i'm free any time
[07:05] <eroomde> i have to help with a launch this morning
[07:05] <eroomde> otherwise freedome
[07:05] <natrium42> awesome
[07:05] <natrium42> i'll just mail you in the evening
[07:05] <eroomde> well, i know a german-russian chick studying here
[07:05] <eroomde> might be your cuppa tea
[07:05] <natrium42> yeah, sure
[07:06] <jcoxon> eroomde, do you require listeners for the flight?
[07:06] <natrium42> maybe the showing around could be delegated to her then
[07:06] <natrium42> although i'd like to see your hab labs etc :D
[07:06] <eroomde> jcoxon: they seem a bit hesitant. i'm not sure
[07:06] <eroomde> it's on .075 anyway
[07:07] <eroomde> see what you can here
[07:07] <eroomde> hear*
[07:07] <eroomde> natrium42: yep you can come and see the mess
[07:08] <natrium42> working state
[07:12] <eroomde> natrium42: are you thinking today or tomorrow?
[07:12] <natrium42> tomorrow is better
[07:13] <eroomde> cool, me too
[07:13] <natrium42> excellent
[07:13] <eroomde> daytime or eve or both?
[07:13] <natrium42> is it ok if i tell you in the evening?
[07:13] <eroomde> just, i'm doing dinner if you fancy risking my cooking
[07:13] <natrium42> plans are pretty fluid atm
[07:13] <eroomde> yep no problem - i'm completely flexible - just turn up :)
[07:13] <natrium42> alright, great
[07:15] <natrium42> k, brb, flight :)
[07:15] <eroomde> :p
[07:15] <natrium42> later!
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[09:44] <cuddykid> GM all
[09:44] <cuddykid> is rocketboy launching today?
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[10:23] <RocketBoy> launch still on for about 12:00 i expect
[10:23] <RocketBoy> usual faffage going on ATM
[10:23] <RocketBoy> bbl
[10:46] <RocketBoy> 434.650 425 shift 50 baud 7,1,N
[10:46] <RocketBoy> bb
[10:50] <RocketBoy> ETL 12:30 now
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[10:59] <RocketBoy> hows the churchill launch going - faffage here
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[11:20] <cuddykid> rocketboy - I'll try and track later :)
[11:22] <RocketBoy> tnx
[11:23] <cuddykid> whose is aeros? tracking details?
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[11:51] <edmoore> Aeros is in the air on 434.075. Im surethey guys would appreciate any listeners- they are having some reception issues
[11:51] <edmoore> Can anyone hear them?
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[12:01] <cuddykid> I'll set up in a about 20mins, probably too low currently for me to be able to hear
[12:03] <RocketBoy> tis away from ears
[12:03] <RocketBoy> 434.650
[12:04] <RocketBoy> xaben format
[12:04] <cuddykid> hope its a great flight!!
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[12:07] <cuddykid> where is everyone today?!?! Usually the map is full of listeners!
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[12:08] <edmoore> Can anyone hear aeros on 0.75?
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[12:28] <mattltm-alt> cuddykid: I would have left my rx running if I had known that there was going to be a launch.
[12:28] <mattltm-alt> An email to the list would have been a good idea.
[12:31] <cuddykid> yeah, just setting up my listener now... can faintly hear
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[12:37] <cuddykid> hooking up computer now..
[12:37] <cuddykid> aeros is priority right?
[12:37] <cuddykid> what shall i select in fldigi?
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[12:41] <cuddykid> tracking
[12:41] <cuddykid> though keep getting errors in sentence due to what seems like wind interfering
[12:45] <cuddykid> help needed.... selected aeros in fldigi however, not getting uploaded to server despite being online and sentences complete
[12:45] <cuddykid> done a restart, see if that helps
[12:46] <cuddykid> nope
[12:47] <NigelMoby> Err..
[12:48] <cuddykid> its just not uploading the sentences for some reason :S
[12:48] <NigelMoby> Make sure ure lat and long are set properly
[12:48] <cuddykid> yep, they are, used it only a week or 2 ago to succesfully track my payload
[12:49] <cuddykid> i'll try the other payload...
[12:49] <NigelMoby> Hmm odd
[12:50] <cuddykid> can hear rocketboy s much better
[12:51] <NigelMoby> Ways the dial freq?
[12:51] <cuddykid> yep rocketboys works, just aeros that doesn't!
[12:51] <cuddykid> strange!
[12:53] <NigelMoby> Ways the dial freq?
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[13:07] <cuddykid> dial frequency for xaben is 434.652
[13:13] <cuddykid> clouds turning grey so packed stuff up
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[13:25] <NigelMoby> Got it here on 651.4
[13:25] <NigelMoby> Very weak
[13:25] <NigelMoby> Hi James
[13:37] <W0OTM> W9UVI  Peoria-Area Amateur Radio Club launches at 1400z - http://www.ihabproject.com/Tracker/?vehicle=&mission_id=W9UVI
[13:37] <Darkside> man, the tracker is going to go nuts
[13:39] <W0OTM> how you figure?
[13:39] <Darkside> well, its already taking a few minutes to load
[13:39] <Darkside> and thats with one balloon in the air (or is it two?)
[13:40] <W0OTM> Darkside: what browser you using?
[13:40] <Darkside> chrome
[13:40] <Darkside> the problem is the huge initial chunk of data it has to pull down
[13:40] <Darkside> all the existing points for the balloons in the air
[13:40] <W0OTM> use FF
[13:40] <Darkside> >_>
[13:40] <Darkside> bugger that
[13:41] <W0OTM> chome on windows?
[13:41] <Darkside> chrome on OSX
[13:41] <Darkside> and the initial dump of data just finished downloading
[13:41] <Darkside> so now i can see stuff
[13:41] <W0OTM> how many ? 3
[13:41] <Darkside> yes
[13:41] <W0OTM> 1 ballon and 2 chasecars
[13:41] <W0OTM> ok
[13:41] <Darkside> no
[13:41] <Darkside> 3 'balloons'
[13:42] <Darkside> or don't you use spacenear.us
[13:42] <W0OTM> no,
[13:42] <W0OTM> I have been developing my own version based on spacenear,us
[13:42] <Darkside> ok
[13:42] <W0OTM> added APRS data
[13:42] <Darkside> well they all have teh same issue
[13:43] <Darkside> the initial loading time, especially when on a 3g internet connection, is horrendus
[13:43] <Darkside> we've had a browser screw in while out in teh field, and have had spacenear.us take 10 minutes to load up due to the huge number of points it had to download
[13:43] <Darkside> it really needs some sort of data decimation
[13:44] <W0OTM> Mine does
[13:44] <W0OTM> maybe the chat widget is the problem
[13:44] <Darkside> i don't have the chat widget
[13:45] <Darkside> i'm looking at spacenear.us by the way, not your tracker
[13:45] <W0OTM> oh, then I dont know what ur looking at
[13:45] <Darkside> i'm looking at the two balloons that are near landing right now
[13:46] <W0OTM> oh thats not at all the flight I am traking
[13:46] <W0OTM> they are 2 different databases
[13:46] <W0OTM> my tracker is in no way tied to spacenear.us
[13:46] <W0OTM> (from a data perspective)
[13:47] <Darkside> i realise that now
[13:47] <W0OTM> lOL
[13:48] <W0OTM> I have several thousand data points in my database, but my tracker doesn't "data-pull" like you mentioned
[13:50] <cuddykid> where has the landing predictor gone from the spacenear tracker? That used to be a great feature!
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[14:06] <griffonbot> @W0OTM: W9UVI  Peoria-Area Amateur Radio Club launches at 1400z - http://www.ihabproject.com/Tracker/?vehicle=&mission_id=W9UVI #arhab [http://twitter.com/W0OTM/status/69403098115866624]
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[14:46] <fsphil> todays flights all done?
[14:46] <fsphil> I missed them
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[15:30] <cuddykid> indeed fsphil
[15:31] <fsphil> ah well, better luck next time :)
[15:38] <eroomde> aftn'n
[15:38] <jonsowman> hello eroomde
[15:39] <eroomde> yo
[15:39] <eroomde> all well?
[15:39] <fsphil> yo yo
[15:39] <jonsowman> eroomde: fine thank you, yourself?
[15:39] <eroomde> good thanks
[15:40] <eroomde> all done with astrium
[15:40] <jonsowman> excellent
[15:40] <eroomde> going to have a lazy afternoon
[15:40] <jonsowman> heh, don't blame you
[15:40] <eroomde> i have a 2nd monitor now for my machine
[15:40] <jonsowman> oh nice :)
[15:40] <eroomde> a 4:3 with the same vertical resolution
[15:40] <jonsowman> oh that works nicely
[15:40] <eroomde> nabbed for free from lab
[15:40] <eroomde> 1600 x 1200 IPS - not bad for a freebie!
[15:41] <jonsowman> not bad at all
[15:41] <jonsowman> IPS panels are so nice
[15:42] <eroomde> i can't get youtube to be fullscreen correctly tho
[15:42] <eroomde> with twinview
[15:42] <jonsowman> yeah I had that issue
[15:42] <jonsowman> I'm not entirely sure what I did, but I can get you a copy of my xorg.conf if it helps
[15:43] <eroomde> please
[15:45] <jonsowman> eroomde: http://pastie.org/private/4gxwp1hgqraeo1xgr5hq
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[15:48] <eroomde> hmm, seems to be the same as mine
[15:48] <eroomde> maybe you get fullscreen on the one you want :)
[15:49] <jonsowman> so what happens when you do fullscreen
[15:49] <eroomde> i get fullscreen in my left (4:3) screen
[15:50] <jonsowman> and you want fullscreen in the other?
[15:50] <eroomde> i can either adjust TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder to be DFP-0 in which case it maximises properly, of DFP-2 in which case it doesn;t maximise properly - it is over-stretched
[15:50] <eroomde> but all of this happens in my left 4:3 monitor
[15:51] <jonsowman> hmm, yes mine maximises to left too
[15:51] <jonsowman> but left is my main one, as it were
[15:51] <eroomde> i think when i change that setting it is making it the right size for my 24 inch monitor but displaying it in my 20 inch monitor
[15:54] <jonsowman> hmm
[15:54] <eroomde> will fix it some other time
[15:54] <eroomde> not too bothered right now
[15:54] <jonsowman> not the end of the world :)
[15:54] <eroomde> can just disable left monitor if i want to kick-back and watch fullscreen films
[15:56] <jonsowman> urgh, thermodynamics is /so/ dull
[15:59] <eroomde> yes
[15:59] <eroomde> bbiab iplayer
[16:02] <NigeyS> Clausius theorem :p
[16:03] <jonsowman> yes NigeyS :(
[16:03] <NigeyS> hehe its not very .. user friendly so to speak
[16:04] <jonsowman> it's also just so, so boring
[16:04] <jonsowman> calculating dew point temperature in an air conditioning system
[16:04] <jonsowman> D:
[16:04] <NigeyS> lol rather you than me, thats about the only thing i can say!
[16:05] <jonsowman> :P
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[16:12] <SpeedEvil> jonsowman: What about changes in enthalphy to compute the coefficient of power for a given refrigerant, and temperature/pressure swings inside an AC?
[16:13] <jonsowman> that too
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[16:15] <SpeedEvil> I sort-of-wanted to compute teh above - but my head exploded.
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[16:16] <jonsowman> i know how you feel
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[16:17] Action: Laurenceb has been rewriting http://ukhas.org.uk/code:fit
[16:17] <Laurenceb> in not sure how valid the 1.1lsb 'unmodeled' error thing is
[16:18] <Laurenceb> as you dont get all the error sources all the time
[16:18] <Laurenceb> by running the code with different sections of data missing i can make the result change by ~+-0.4%
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[16:19] <SpeedEvil> Hmm
[16:19] <Laurenceb> openpilot use 6 orientations, then average a ton of data samples at each point
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> So could it just be the error is non-gaussian?
[16:19] <Laurenceb> i dont think so
[16:20] <Laurenceb> the broblem with their approach is you can always fit gain+bias to six samples
[16:20] <Laurenceb> so you never know how good your model is
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> So it basically assumes everything's linear
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> And you never get an error estimate.
[16:20] <Laurenceb> no - nonorthogonal axes give cross axis
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> Oh - yeah
[16:21] <Laurenceb> but are still linear
[16:21] <Laurenceb> i think taking say 10 or 15 seperate positions and averaging might be a good idea
[16:22] <SpeedEvil> Sounds like a good plan
[16:22] <Laurenceb> a pain to setup but that way you average out the noise at each point and know exactly how well the fit was
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> http://aurorawatch.lancs.ac.uk/livedata
[16:23] <Laurenceb> think i tried something similar with your n900 data ages ago
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> I think so.
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[16:26] <SpeedEvil> http://aurorawatch.lancs.ac.uk/ - shows it bouncing around by a few nanotesla over the short term.
[16:26] <SpeedEvil> And a few dozen over medium periods.
[16:27] <Laurenceb> is that nanotesla on the graph?
[16:29] <SpeedEvil> I think so
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[16:57] <RocketBoy> did the astrium guys get their payload back?
[17:05] <NigeyS> hey RocketBoy
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[17:19] <RocketBoy> hi NigeyS - we got the payload back from todays ERAS flight
[17:19] <RocketBoy> EARS
[17:20] <NigeyS> yey, congrats, everything go ok with the flight ?
[17:20] <RocketBoy> the guys form Kings were well pleased
[17:20] <NigeyS> excellent :D
[17:20] <RocketBoy> yeah - it more or less went ok
[17:21] <NigeyS> brill
[17:21] <RocketBoy> the balloon was a Hwoyee 500g - so quite good at 25000m with a 1200g payload
[17:22] <NigeyS> wow didnt realise the payload was that heavy !
[17:22] <NigeyS> brb
[17:23] <jonsowman> RocketBoy: that's pretty impressive for a 500g
[17:24] <RocketBoy> yeah not bad - my burst calculator put burst at 22500m - but thats based on totex data
[17:25] <jonsowman> what ascent rate on average?
[17:25] <RocketBoy> I think I'm going to do a totex/hwoyee burst off - identical sized balloons and payloads - launched simultaneously and see who wins the altitude stakes
[17:26] <jonsowman> RocketBoy: sounds like a good idea, some more data on the hwoyee ones to see if the model fits (burst calc) etc would be good
[17:26] <RocketBoy> about 4.5m/sec
[17:27] <jonsowman> burst calc reckons 23857m
[17:27] <RocketBoy> I had used 5 in the calculator
[17:27] <SpeedEvil> RocketBoy: you need several really to be sure.
[17:27] <SpeedEvil> RocketBoy: This would be an ideal excuse to tie a lawn-chair beneath them! :)
[17:27] <RocketBoy> yeah - bit costly though
[17:31] <RocketBoy> jondo you know if the astrium guys got theres yet?
[17:31] <RocketBoy> jonsowman:
[17:32] <jonsowman> RocketBoy: don't know
[17:32] <RocketBoy> ah - thanks
[17:33] <jonsowman> last I heard was Iain an hour and a half ago saying "should have found it by now but haven't heard anything"
[17:34] <RocketBoy> bbl
[17:54] <griffonbot> @CollegeARC: Check out the RITCHIE-1 flight #ARHAB build just a few hours before launch the next morning.#hamradio #hamr Lot's... http://fb.me/ZRBUHAa1 [http://twitter.com/CollegeARC/status/69460556398067712]
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[18:12] <jcoxon> ping fsphil
[18:12] <fsphil> pong!
[18:12] <jcoxon> you got your HF antenna up?
[18:13] <fsphil> yep! doing some fsk-hell right now infact
[18:13] <jcoxon> ooo where?
[18:13] <fsphil> 40m band
[18:13] <fsphil> with mattltm
[18:48] <RocketBoy> back
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[19:02] <cuddykid> glad to hear flight went ok rocketboy! Managed to track for about 30mins before it rained. Could hear your payload much clearer than the other one
[19:03] <RocketBoy> cuddykid: cool - thanks - It all went remarkably well today - after a bit of a launch delay
[19:05] <fsphil> there's always delays :)
[19:05] <fsphil> for me anyway
[19:06] <RocketBoy> yeah - it was very ty
[19:06] <jcoxon> RocketBoy, windy today!
[19:07] <RocketBoy> typical of a first launch for the kings guys
[19:07] <RocketBoy> not too windy at EARS behind the tree line
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[19:55] <Laurenceb> Randomskk: ping
[19:56] <Randomskk> pong
[19:56] <Laurenceb> hi, im trying to get stm32 code compiling
[19:56] <Laurenceb> i built gcc+binutils+newlib from source and got it running
[19:56] <Randomskk> I would laugh but I've been there and laughing is not what you need
[19:56] <Laurenceb> now im trying codesourcery
[19:56] <Randomskk> my advice would have been to get summon-arm-toolchain
[19:57] <Randomskk> unless that is how you built gcc+binutils+newlib
[19:57] <Laurenceb> well ive got codesourcery installed
[19:57] <Randomskk> well okay
[19:57] <Randomskk> I've used codesourcery
[19:57] <Laurenceb> ##CC = arm-none-eabi-gcc
[19:57] <Laurenceb> CC = arm-none-eabi-g++
[19:57] <Randomskk> I can't tell if it was any better or worse than vanilla gcc, they both worked
[19:57] <Laurenceb> i made that change in the Skeleproj makefile
[19:57] <Randomskk> okay
[19:57] <Randomskk> wait, is that right?
[19:57] <Laurenceb> but it seems i screwed up
[19:57] <Randomskk> like in your path
[19:57] <Randomskk> where is codesourcery installed, where is vanilla gcc installed?
[19:57] <Laurenceb> its using codesourcery, just a sec
[19:58] <Randomskk> if you type "which arm-none-eabi-g++"
[19:58] <Randomskk> or maybe specify the full path to your CC binary
[19:58] <Laurenceb> /bin/arm-none-eabi-g++
[19:58] <Randomskk> you put codesourcery in /bin?
[19:59] <Randomskk> well, okay, so long as that's the right place
[19:59] <Laurenceb> http://pastebin.com/LWw0vN7U
[19:59] <Laurenceb> thats what happens now when i try to compile
[19:59] <Laurenceb> wait /lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/4.5.1/thumb/libgcc.a(
[19:59] <Randomskk> ugh
[19:59] <Laurenceb> thats my old c compiler surely
[19:59] Action: Laurenceb confused
[20:00] <Randomskk> well quite possibly
[20:00] <Randomskk> I don't think you've necessarily told it to use codesourcery
[20:00] <Randomskk> are you sure where you installed codesourcery? bear in mind both cs and the normal gcc can co-exist on a system
[20:01] <Laurenceb> PATH=$HOME/CodeSourcery/Sourcery_G++/bin:$PATH
[20:01] <Randomskk> okay that's a bit more promising
[20:01] <Randomskk> I've had that error before with cs
[20:02] <Laurenceb> but bin/arm-none-eabi-g++ is not the codesourcery folder
[20:03] <Laurenceb> im confused
[20:03] <Randomskk> well what's saying /bin/arm-none-eabi-g++ and where is $PATH set
[20:03] <Laurenceb> which arm-none-eabi-g++
[20:04] <Laurenceb> bin/arm-none-eabi-g++
[20:05] <Laurenceb> oh doh it works
[20:05] <Laurenceb> i forgot to make clean
[20:05] <Randomskk> oops :P
[20:05] <Laurenceb> i was trying to run the linker on outputs from two different compilers
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[20:06] <Laurenceb> right now i can look at the floating point code and see if it differs :D
[20:09] <Laurenceb> whats the difference between flash-elf and flash-bin?
[20:09] <Laurenceb> im reading your makefile
[20:10] <Randomskk> the elf is an executable file format, the bin is just the code, I think if you don't have an os or something you do the bin
[20:10] <Randomskk> either way I just 'flash' or something
[20:10] <Randomskk> or usually stm32loader.py
[20:10] <Randomskk> I didn't write that
[20:11] <Laurenceb> yeah
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[20:11] <Laurenceb> having the serial upload in python is awesome
[20:13] <Laurenceb> is there a 'stats' type program to see falsh size etc?
[20:14] <Randomskk> I always just ls -lh'd the bin, but that's not really very good
[20:15] <Laurenceb> you can looks in the map file
[20:15] <Laurenceb> and work out 0x08000000+flash size
[20:16] <Laurenceb> but thats slightly lame
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[20:42] <Laurenceb> http://pastebin.com/ywWtm171
[20:42] <Laurenceb> hmm actually its still broken
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[20:43] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[20:49] <mattltm> opps.
[20:49] <mattltm> Where were we?
[20:50] <Lunar_Lander> hello mattltm!
[20:50] <Lunar_Lander> guess what happened :)
[20:50] <mattltm> What??
[20:51] <Lunar_Lander> I am now owning an NTX2 transmitting unit
[20:51] <mattltm> cool :)
[20:51] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again :)
[20:51] <mattltm> No probs..
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[21:29] <natrium42> eroomde: yo
[21:29] <jonsowman> I really don't think we need two bots answering !seen
[21:30] <natrium42> from the department of redunancy department
[21:30] <Randomskk> jonsowman: but what if they didn't agree?!
[21:31] <Randomskk> this way we can be sure we have accurate results
[21:31] <BrainDamage> you should get 2 bots doing echo
[21:31] <BrainDamage> then you can have infinite loops contests
[21:31] <jonsowman> lots of spam, just what's required
[21:37] <NigeyS> lol
[21:37] <NigeyS> want me to diable !seen in this chan jon ?
[21:37] <LazyLeopard> Like Grimes and Gridley. They chase marbles, sometimes for a couple of pages...
[21:37] <NigeyS> disable*
[21:38] <LazyLeopard> No harm in having two bots providing the same sort of information provided they either respond only when directly addressed, or they resopnd to exclusive command sets.
[21:41] <jonsowman> NigeyS: I agree ^^, maybe change the command?
[21:42] <jonsowman> it's a bit spammy having them both respond to !seen
[21:42] <Randomskk> maybe !seen2
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> hello jonsowman NigeyS
[21:43] <LazyLeopard> ?seen
[22:14] <NigeyS> hey kev :)
[22:14] <NigeyS> jonsowman, will do
[22:15] <Lunar_Lander> azerbajan is on top
[22:15] <fsphil> was it any good? I didn't listen to most of them
[22:16] <Lunar_Lander> it was OK I think
[22:16] <Lunar_Lander> but the irish guy had strange hair
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[22:17] <NigeyS> sorted
[22:17] Action: fsphil looks in the mirror .. and sees evil fsphil
[22:17] <NigeyS> lol
[22:18] <Lunar_Lander> you are actually 1 pt better than us
[22:18] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[22:18] <Lunar_Lander> you are on 11 and we are on 12
[22:18] <Lunar_Lander> azerbajan won!
[22:18] <fsphil> yep, unless someone votes 20
[22:19] <Lunar_Lander> you know the biggest surprise?
[22:19] <Lunar_Lander> Belarus awarded only 5 to Russia
[22:20] <fsphil> woo +5
[22:21] <Lunar_Lander> it's over!
[22:21] <fsphil> phew
[22:21] <Lunar_Lander> AND THE UK IS NOT LAST!!!
[22:21] <fsphil> lol
[22:21] <fsphil> always a relief
[22:21] <Lunar_Lander> and we are on 10!
[22:22] <LazyLeopard> Not? Shame... ;)
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[22:24] <LazyLeopard> Time to sleep. G'night.
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[22:24] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:24] <Lunar_Lander> and in germany we say
[22:25] <Lunar_Lander> LENA KACKT!
[22:26] <Lunar_Lander> THIS IS THE SOUND OF VICTORY
[22:26] <BrainDamage> do you also eat your babies after saying so?
[22:26] <Lunar_Lander> no
[22:26] <Lunar_Lander> why?
[22:27] <BrainDamage> it sounds like you're about to :p
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[22:27] <Lunar_Lander> nooo
[22:27] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[22:27] <Lunar_Lander> the ending credits
[22:27] <Lunar_Lander> they are
[22:27] <Lunar_Lander> unreadable!
[22:31] <Lunar_Lander> I was on duesseldorf station last night
[22:31] <Lunar_Lander> there was a strange guy phoning
[22:31] <Lunar_Lander> "and then I met HER! Yes I brought a fruit basket into lena's room and SHE was there!"
[22:31] <Lunar_Lander> (lena=our contestant)
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[22:32] <fsphil> cool!
[22:32] <fsphil> you've overheard someone who met someone famous :)
[22:33] <Randomskk> fsphil: yea well I chatted on IRC to someone who overheard someone who met someone famous!
[22:33] <fsphil> *gasp*
[22:34] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[22:40] <Lunar_Lander> but the victory song
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> imagine a war movie
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> the protagonist runs across a field with artillery fire
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> and then the song plays
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> "running scared tonight"
[22:41] <SpeedEvil> Tim-berners-lee hangs out (occasionally) on another channel I'm onl.
[22:42] <fsphil> #freexxx?
[22:42] <NigeyS> lolz
[22:42] <SpeedEvil> Naah.
[22:42] <fsphil> Wait, he didn't invent the web for porn?
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[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> what do you think about my idea?
[22:55] <griffonbot> @projecttraveler: Prep for flight 2011a is underway. We'll be launching from Rice Park on Monday May 30, 7:30am. #arhab [http://twitter.com/projecttraveler/status/69536210057576449]
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