highaltitude.log.20110509

[00:01] <griffonbot> @W0BG: RT @CollegeARC: http://j.mp/kn0wx6 RITCHIE-1 GoPro images! #RIT #arhab #hamr #hamradio @Imagine_RIT #eoss [http://twitter.com/W0BG/status/67378715461566464]
[00:05] Action: SpeedEvil idly realises there is no cheapish desktop twitter-device.
[00:13] <Lunar_Lander> juxta
[00:15] <Darkside> what do you mean Lunar_Lander ?
[00:15] <Lunar_Lander> when is your next flight?
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[00:19] <Darkside> Lunar_Lander: probably later this month
[00:19] <Lunar_Lander> cool
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[00:56] <griffonbot> @CollegeARC: http://j.mp/kn0wx6 Check this out! #ARHAB #hamr @thetorpedodog @KB1REQ @k9hi @arrl @KD8NJZ @kd0bik #hamradio [http://twitter.com/CollegeARC/status/67392568849207296]
[01:03] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[07:35] <jcoxon> morning all
[07:36] <fsphil> hiya jcoxon
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[07:38] <jcoxon> hey fsphil
[07:38] <jcoxon> ooo quick experiment
[07:38] <eroomde> yo dudes
[07:38] <jcoxon> could you mention my name again on irc
[07:38] <fsphil> hiya jcoxon ;)
[07:39] <jcoxon> nope thats not making the terrible binging sound
[07:39] <eroomde> coxon, coxoff; coxon, coxoff.
[07:39] <jcoxon> thanks eroomde
[07:40] <jcoxon> eroomde, going to launch tomorrow at about 10.30 am
[07:40] <jcoxon> understand if you can't make it
[07:42] <eroomde> leave it with me
[07:42] <eroomde> i will try and make it work
[07:42] <jcoxon> awesome
[07:42] <jcoxon> had a chat with steve last night
[07:42] <eroomde> uhuh?
[07:42] <jcoxon> we've applied for another launch site and my parents new farm
[07:43] <jcoxon> at*
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[07:44] <eroomde> oh awesome
[07:44] <jcoxon> it has 4 large barns
[07:44] <jcoxon> large enough for easy balloon filling
[07:45] <eroomde> what's the location?
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[07:46] <jcoxon> natrium42!
[07:46] <jcoxon> eroomde, one sec i'll get coords
[07:47] <jcoxon> 52.12107, 0.81396
[07:58] <griffonbot> Received email: James Coxon "[UKHAS] Atlas2 and Project Squirrel Launch Tues 10/5/11"
[08:00] <fsphil> jcoxon, was playing with the FSK Hell-105 mode in fldigi last night. seems to be a lot more tolerant of noise than the standard hell modes. the ntx2 should be able to do it too
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[08:02] <Darkside> fsphil: but it will rewuire a human to decode
[08:02] <fsphil> indeed, but thinking of the likes of a simple beacon for DF
[08:02] <Darkside> true
[08:02] <Darkside> may as well have it spit out coords tho
[08:03] <fsphil> yea
[08:03] <Darkside> then if someone cans ee it through noise they can get a position
[08:03] <fsphil> contestia seems a nice solid mode too, but complicated
[08:04] <Darkside> its that olivia based?
[08:04] <fsphil> not sure if it's based on it, but same sort of modulation
[08:05] <fsphil> (google) aah it's made by the same person who did the Olivia mode, so yea
[08:09] <jonsowman> jcoxon: ping
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[08:17] <eroomde> jcoxon: close to the wet!
[08:43] <jcoxon> hey
[08:43] <jonsowman> hi jcoxon, we're alright for tomorrow as far as Chu are concerned :)
[08:43] <jonsowman> we have to use the middle or top fields, though
[08:43] <jcoxon> no problem
[08:43] <jcoxon> eroomde, not that close
[08:45] <eroomde> but with wind
[08:46] <jcoxon> i can't get it to be close to the wet with the predictor
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[09:14] <eroomde> woo, new machine works
[09:14] <jonsowman> what did you do to make it boot in the end?
[09:14] <fsphil> yay
[09:15] <eroomde> just plonked 11.04 on
[09:15] <eroomde> less faff - pragmatism wins
[09:15] <eroomde> have just got my keys across hence talking to you now from the new box
[09:15] <jonsowman> :D
[09:15] <eroomde> jonsowman: ssd is insane
[09:15] <eroomde> boots in about 7 seconds
[09:15] <jcoxon> eroomde, new machine!
[09:15] <eroomde> yes
[09:15] <jonsowman> so envious
[09:16] <jcoxon> eroomde, what settings did you run the predictor to get a close to wet landing
[09:16] <jcoxon> you got me worried
[09:16] <eroomde> oh not for this time
[09:16] <eroomde> just in general
[09:16] <eroomde> you're fine for this launch
[09:16] <jcoxon> oh you mean the new launch site?
[09:17] <eroomde> jonsowman: compiz grid is great
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[09:17] <eroomde> really simple and effective
[09:17] <eroomde> jonsowman: yes
[09:17] <eroomde> sorry, jcoxon yes
[09:17] <jcoxon> i see
[09:17] <eroomde> at your house
[09:17] <eroomde> sorry to scare you like that :)
[09:17] <jcoxon> its more for west flights
[09:17] <jonsowman> compiz has a lot of geniunely useful stuff
[09:17] <eroomde> or suicidals
[09:17] <jonsowman> also lots of pointless pretty stuff
[09:18] <eroomde> :)
[09:18] <eroomde> have turned most of it off
[09:18] <jcoxon> eroomde, exactly!
[09:19] <jcoxon> jonsowman, i'm going to come up to suffolk tonight, i think i'll setup M6JCX base station in suffolk
[09:21] <jonsowman> :)
[09:23] <jonsowman> jcoxon: what time are you planning on getting to chu tomorrow
[09:24] <jonsowman> ?
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[09:26] <fsphil> ooh he's flying a phone doing sstv
[09:26] <fsphil> I missed that bit!
[09:27] <eroomde> is that ed cunningham's?
[09:27] <Randomskk> not sure why the phone's not also doing live photos
[09:27] <Randomskk> yea
[09:27] <eroomde> (ejcweb)
[09:27] <eroomde> cool
[09:27] <Randomskk> the hacked up ntx2 worked great
[09:27] <Randomskk> it's just an ntx2 with a headphone port connected to its input
[09:27] <Randomskk> and glued on
[09:27] <eroomde> lol
[09:27] <fsphil> aah it's FM
[09:27] <Randomskk> yea squirrel will be fm
[09:27] <fsphil> doubt I'd be able to get that one at all
[09:28] <Randomskk> http://t.randomskk.net/post/3602838803 & http://t.randomskk.net/post/3602822094/ntx2-ready-for-android
[09:28] <fsphil> not without a yagi anyway
[09:28] <Randomskk> with authentic hipster-camera filter
[09:28] <eroomde> i was about to say
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[09:34] <jonsowman> hi jcoxon
[09:34] <jonsowman> what time are you planning on getting to chu tomorrow
[09:34] <jcoxon> 9 probably
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[09:35] <jcoxon> atlas can run for 36 hrs so no issues starting it up when i arrive and leaving it
[09:35] <jonsowman> Adam and I would be up for coming, is there any chance we could be cheeky and ask for a lift on your way to chu?
[09:36] <jonsowman> also, if you're using CUSF launch kit, we can go via CUED
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[09:36] <jcoxon> of course
[09:36] <NigeyS> morning
[09:37] <jonsowman> morning NigeyS
[09:37] <NigeyS> hey Jon :)
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[09:41] <jonsowman> must go, lectures etc. bbl
[09:41] <NigeyS> byee, enjoy :)
[09:41] <NigeyS> hey laurenceb_
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[09:54] <NigeyS> wb jcoxon
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[10:22] <eroomde> returning things to online stores is a bit of a task
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[10:23] <NigeyS> hey Ed
[10:23] <NigeyS> returning the power supply ?
[10:24] <eroomde> yes
[10:25] <NigeyS> eek
[10:25] <eroomde> it's a heavy old thing to post back with recorded delivery
[10:25] <NigeyS> yeah thats the thing, they dont pay the return postage :(
[10:25] <NigeyS> http://nigey.co.uk:8033/highaltitude/
[10:25] <NigeyS> yey
[10:26] <eroomde> what is it?
[10:26] <eroomde> HA stats?
[10:27] <NigeyS> just a stats module im trying out
[10:27] <eroomde> cool
[10:27] <jcoxon> is it an eggdrop bot?
[10:27] <NigeyS> thought id parkit here for ann hour to get some data in there, see if runs ok, if no-one minds that is
[10:27] <NigeyS> yeah jcoxon
[10:27] <eroomde> http://ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:irc_channel
[10:27] <eroomde> looks like i had some time to kill in 2008
[10:27] <jcoxon> so it could be attached to zeusbot if you like
[10:28] <NigeyS> oo nice work ed !
[10:28] <NigeyS> jcoxon, ahh botnet .. give me a few days to get to grips with using eggdrop again lol first time i've run one in about 10 years :|
[10:28] <eroomde> actually thinking about it, 2008 was the glory year where we did absolutely loads of launches, started developing the distributed listener (you remember that james? when you managed to get a bot to post telem strings into #ha) and did loads of rocket stuff
[10:29] <jcoxon> was a good year
[10:29] <jcoxon> and we had good weather
[10:29] <eroomde> and we did things like doug's flights which got the amazing photos
[10:29] <fsphil> NigeyS, for some reason it thinks everyone in the channel is me
[10:29] <NigeyS> yeah, im just looking at that now lol
[10:30] <eroomde> http://www.nivnac.co.uk/files/HAPS/HAPS1_withvideo_polar_quarter.jpg
[10:30] <eroomde> one of my faves ^
[10:31] <eroomde> http://www.nivnac.co.uk/files/HAPSD_NOVA8/HAPS-D_pan1_quarter.jpg
[10:31] <eroomde> and the nova 8 flight ^
[10:31] <eroomde> jcoxon: i now have a completely unavoidable engagement at 11.00am tomorrow
[10:31] <eroomde> so if it's in the air by then, we're all good
[10:32] <eroomde> but i have to be at barton by 11
[10:32] <jcoxon> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcoxon77/5703144192
[10:32] <jcoxon> eroomde, okay, jon and adam are coming
[10:32] <NigeyS> fsphil, think it needs 5 minutes to get the other users info etc
[10:32] <eroomde> jcoxon: very pretty, though def put some tape over the batts!
[10:32] <jcoxon> oh yes
[10:32] <jcoxon> once i put some lithiums in there
[10:33] <jcoxon> now need to cleverly insulate that radio a bit
[10:33] <fsphil> looking forward to see how well (or not) the spot goes
[10:33] <jcoxon> fsphil, we need to finish off our code
[10:33] <jcoxon> to decode the data and forward it to spacenear.us
[10:33] <fsphil> have you a way of running a script on receipt of a position?
[10:33] <fsphil> or you gonna enter it manually?
[10:34] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJgAmft2jI&feature=player_embedded
[10:34] <jcoxon> https://github.com/jamescoxon/Misc-Projects/blob/master/perlspot.pl
[10:34] <SpeedEvil> How to power future payloads?
[10:35] <fsphil> ahh well that's half the battle
[10:35] <jcoxon> shall we do the maths in C? or convert it to perl?
[10:35] <fsphil> just need to perl-ify the decoder
[10:35] <jcoxon> or we could cheat
[10:35] <jcoxon> and just run the binary
[10:36] <jcoxon> well get perl to run the binary and then grab the results
[10:36] <fsphil> that would be the easiest way yea
[10:36] <fsphil> although the maths isn't difficult
[10:37] <fsphil> actually the code should work directly, perl seems to have a floor() function
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[10:43] <fsphil> yea, needs this: use POSIX;
[10:43] <fsphil> and the variables need the $ added, but works nicely
[10:44] <fsphil> interesting way of rounding it though
[10:44] <fsphil> Latitude = 54.650340000001, Longitude = 6.75314999999998, Altitude = 29520
[10:44] <jcoxon> fsphil, have you made a change to that file?
[10:45] <jcoxon> as in we could develop it over github
[10:45] <fsphil> that would make more sense
[10:46] <jcoxon> im just finishing off my payload
[10:47] <jcoxon> but will be free in about an hour
[10:47] <jcoxon> that script on github is hard coded for stilldavid's spot
[10:47] <jcoxon> but its just a matter of changing the ID at the top
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[11:03] <fsphil> jcoxon, https://github.com/fsphil/Misc-Projects/commit/64e97a97c663d07692e1e1bbab9b111383ff1adb
[11:07] <jcoxon> eek my insulation is making my radio toasty
[11:07] <jcoxon> very toasty
[11:07] <jcoxon> currently 30deg outside
[11:08] <NigeyS> oopsie
[11:08] <jcoxon> thats okay
[11:08] <jcoxon> it'll cool down on its way up
[11:08] <NigeyS> http://nigey.co.uk:8033/highaltitude/users/jcoxon/
[11:08] <NigeyS> fixed
[11:11] <fsphil> woo more lightning
[11:11] <fsphil> glad I disconnected radio before I left
[11:11] <NigeyS> your getting it pretty bad over there
[11:11] <jcoxon> fsphil, urgh, merging conflicts
[11:12] <fsphil> typical lol - the bit in the { } braces is mostly all you need
[11:12] <fsphil> NigeyS, it's unusual - I'm not complaining though :)
[11:13] <NigeyS> aye
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[11:24] <jcoxon> fsphil, http://spacenear.us/tracker/
[11:24] <jcoxon> OOPS
[11:24] <jcoxon> 'cuse caps
[11:25] <fsphil> it appears to have gone on holiday to eastbourne
[11:26] <jcoxon> +/- issue
[11:26] <fsphil> ooh yea no negative
[11:26] <fsphil> in that case, sweet!
[11:26] <jcoxon> i turned off my flight computer
[11:26] <jcoxon> it was getting too hot
[11:26] <fsphil> altitude 55m, makes sense too
[11:26] <jcoxon> 35 degC
[11:26] <fsphil> not too bad
[11:27] <fsphil> where's the heat coming from?
[11:27] <jcoxon> the shift had expanded to 520
[11:27] <jcoxon> the voltage reg sits underneath the radio
[11:27] <jcoxon> and then it had a wad of foam on top of it
[11:39] <fsphil> yay, 70cm preamp kit finally arrived. ordered that a few months ago
[11:40] <griffonbot> Received email: Frank Ryan Jr "[UKHAS] My 1st HAB launch in Ireland."
[11:46] <fsphil> altitude seems to be updating, so far so good
[11:47] <jcoxon> oh
[11:47] <jcoxon> i'm not getting the right data
[11:47] <jcoxon> still playing
[11:54] <jcoxon> okay think i've got it fixed
[11:55] <jcoxon> though high chance it'll need hacking mid flight
[11:56] <fsphil> that's always fun :)
[11:56] <fsphil> this is a regular flight tomorrow, not the floater?
[12:05] <jcoxon> yeah just regular
[12:06] <jcoxon> oooo its updating now
[12:07] <griffonbot> @KB1LQC: Alright #hamr world, the project that has been taking up all my non-coursework time is OVER! More time for @CollegeARC #hamradio #arhab [http://twitter.com/KB1LQC/status/67561423705866240]
[12:07] <griffonbot> @CollegeARC: Alright #hamr world, the project that has been taking up all my non-coursework time is OVER! More time for @CollegeARC #hamradio #arhab [http://twitter.com/CollegeARC/status/67561425031274496]
[12:08] <jcoxon> fsphil, i'm thinking we should have the SPoT as a seperate track
[12:08] <jcoxon> rather then merge the 2 data streams
[12:08] <fsphil> agreed, it'll be too jittery to combine them
[12:11] <jcoxon> done
[12:11] <jcoxon> i've added NSEW as well
[12:17] <fsphil> refreshed -- looking good
[12:18] <jcoxon> its not too far off
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[12:22] <fsphil> when I played about with it the accuracy seemed to be about 40m
[12:22] <fsphil> enough to find it
[12:32] <jcoxon> hmm for some reason it doesn't get hte latest position
[12:42] <hibby> I'll try and hear it tomorrow
[12:46] <fsphil> not sure I should with all this lightning about :)
[12:47] <NigeyS> its only a few volts phil :p
[12:48] <hibby> lightning? nightmare
[12:48] <NigeyS> 's ok hibby we wont get any, phils hoarding it!
[12:48] <jcoxon> i wonder if the inverse hell is easier to decode
[12:48] <fsphil> there's a cluster over you NigeyS, according to this map
[12:49] <NigeyS> wtf
[12:49] <fsphil> jcoxon, it does seem to be. fsk hell beats them both though
[12:49] <NigeyS> as you said a rumble of thunder.. what's your real name, Zeus?!
[12:49] <fsphil> Muhaha
[12:49] <jcoxon> !lightning > NigeyS
[12:50] <fsphil> lol
[12:50] <NigeyS> better unplug the longwire
[12:50] <jcoxon> zeusbot is lame
[12:50] <NigeyS> lol james
[12:50] <fsphil> I can barely hear the thunder over the rain on the roof here, funky tin roof
[12:50] <NigeyS> !top10
[12:50] <HAMBotty> Top10(words): 1. fsphil(179) 2. jcoxon(157) 3. NigeyS(147) 4. griffonbot(60) 5. hibby(8)
[12:50] <hibby> snigger
[12:51] <fsphil> I have much to many words spoken on this day for to be logged by the fine bot of ham
[12:51] <fsphil> oooh big rumble!!
[12:51] <hibby> how exciting
[12:52] <fsphil> I'm away to reception to watch...
[12:52] <hibby> i should probably look at the weather
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[12:57] <jonsowman> afternoon all
[12:57] <NigeyS> afternoon jonsowman
[12:57] <jonsowman> hi NigeyS :)
[12:59] <jonsowman> oh hey a new bot?
[12:59] <jcoxon> NigeyS, is playing
[13:00] <jonsowman> ah, cool
[13:03] <fsphil> wow that was a hell of a storm
[13:03] <fsphil> there was a ground strike not far from my house
[13:04] <jcoxon> right
[13:04] <jcoxon> payload complete
[13:05] <jcoxon> just need some new lithiums and some duct tape
[13:05] <NigeyS> now thats what you call a hail storm .. !
[13:06] <NigeyS> jonsowman, it's just a stats bot
[13:06] <NigeyS> it'll behave :)
[13:06] <jonsowman> unlucky, the weather is gorgeous here in cam today
[13:06] <jonsowman> NigeyS: sounds good :)
[13:06] <NigeyS> http://nigey.co.uk:8033/highaltitude/
[13:06] <jonsowman> we could get pisg to run on nessie from zeusbot logs perhaps
[13:08] <Laurenceb_> http://www.nowcast.co.uk/lightning/
[13:08] <NigeyS> uhoh thunder again, phil will you stop sending it here!
[13:13] <mattltm> Nice an sunny here :)
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[13:16] <mattltm> lol.
[13:16] <fsphil> computers at home still working, always a plus :)
[13:17] <NigeyS> :D
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[13:26] <Dan-K2VOL> Morning all
[13:26] <Dan-K2VOL> Er afternoon mostly I imagine
[13:28] <NigeyS> Afternoon Dan
[13:41] <griffonbot> @LVL1WhiteStar: QFH antenna goes to the farm to double check low SNR. Lagrange KY #arhab http://t.co/vWLxBt0 http://t.co/iufNlqG http://t.co/gf0qEPM [http://twitter.com/LVL1WhiteStar/status/67585045115838464]
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[13:50] <eroomde> nice work on the antennas dan
[13:50] <eroomde> Dan-K2VOL *
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[13:56] <Dan-K2VOL> Thanks ed, of the hour of continuous satellite coverage, with 5 satellites trundling by directly overhead there was only 18 minutes of usable reception
[13:56] <SpeedEvil> :/
[13:58] <eroomde> well, better than nothing :|
[13:58] <SpeedEvil> Dan-K2VOL: Is this with your antenna that you think may be mistuned?
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[14:01] <Dan-K2VOL> this is the antenna that is tuned very well to the transmit frequency, as orbcomm recommended, 149MHz. However the receive frequency is 137MHz
[14:01] <Dan-K2VOL> when it transmits it does very well
[14:02] <jcoxon> eroomde, this is possibly a question you can't answer but does cusf have my Pl239 to bnc adapter?
[14:05] <jcoxon> never mind its the wrong way anyway
[14:08] <eroomde> so-239 to bnc?
[14:08] <eroomde> jcoxon ^
[14:09] <jcoxon> thats the one
[14:09] <jcoxon> but i remember it being so you could connect a bnc to the back of hte ft817
[14:09] <jcoxon> which is the opposite of what i'm tring to find
[14:09] <eroomde> hrm, i bought a whole bunch of gender benders and adaptors a few years ago, but i think there seem to have entropied
[14:09] <eroomde> i am on the other side of town to the lab atm
[14:10] <jcoxon> i might setup my ft817 in suffolk
[14:10] <jcoxon> and bring my ft790 with me tomorrow
[14:10] <jcoxon> the only thing is that my yagi is so239
[14:11] <eroomde> where are you currently?
[14:11] <jcoxon> worthing
[14:11] <jcoxon> but about to set off
[14:11] <jcoxon> once i've packed up
[14:11] <eroomde> if there's a ham shop in london it might be worth buying a few adaptors
[14:11] <eroomde> well, i can have a look this evening
[14:12] <eroomde> we have various adaptors about the place, i would think it's likely we have what you need, but I can't be certain from here i'm afraid
[14:12] <jcoxon> bingo http://www.maplin.co.uk/uhf-socket-to-bnc-plug-adaptor-1634
[14:13] <jcoxon> i'll pick one up from maplins
[14:16] <imrcly> Dan-K2VOL: think we can make a second antenna at the 137 and see how it works?
[14:18] <W0OTM> GRERAT JOB! http://www.flickr.com/photos/62621941@N02/5699590853/in/set-72157626674875178
[14:18] <Dan-K2VOL> imrcly yes, we could do that, as long as the SWR at 149 does not exceed 2:1
[14:18] <W0OTM> I want a GoProHD!
[14:19] <Dan-K2VOL> I wish they were lighter weight
[14:21] Action: hibby reads the documentations for libfap
[14:21] <hibby> Totally knew what they were doing when they named a function "fap_cleanup();"
[14:22] <Dan-K2VOL> Imrcly We would gain +3db at the receive freq by having circular polarization there, and lose it at the TX freq
[14:23] <eroomde> hibby: i've had cause to use CumTrapz in matlab quite a few times
[14:24] <eroomde> (cumulative trapezoidal integration)
[14:24] <hibby> hahah
[14:24] <imrcly> have we actively tested receive?
[14:24] <Dan-K2VOL> All our tests are primarily measuring receive
[14:25] <imrcly> by sending a message, not by stopwatching
[14:25] <Dan-K2VOL> we always do at least one message send when we do these, if that's what you mean
[14:26] <Dan-K2VOL> With this antenna, when we do get good receive (which is required to be allowed to transmit), the messages transmit very well - not a lot of retries needed
[14:26] <Dan-K2VOL> With our antenna tuned for TX
[14:31] <NigeyS> dan what was the latest outcome of the tests?
[14:31] <NigeyS> rx / tx times
[14:32] <Dan-K2VOL> 60 continuous minutes of alternating A/C plane satellite coverage, but we only had acceptable receive for 18 minutes
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[14:33] <NigeyS> hmm, and the swr is all fine ?
[14:33] <Dan-K2VOL> the SWR is optimized for the transmit frequency, which is far from the receive frequency, so I imagine the SWR is actually crappy at the receive freq :-/
[14:34] <Dan-K2VOL> TX 149 rx 137
[14:34] <Dan-K2VOL> Mhz
[14:34] <NigeyS> ahh, but if you increase on 1 you lose on the other right ?
[14:34] <Dan-K2VOL> Ya
[14:34] <NigeyS> im still a n00b so i dunno, but will that 18minutes not increase as the balloon gets some altitude ?
[14:34] <imrcly> Dan-K2VOL: http://www.mitre.org/work/tech_papers/tech_papers_02/lamensdorf_dual/lanmensdorf_db_quadhelixant.pdf
[14:35] <imrcly> this suggests putting a cap and a inductor on the antenna
[14:35] <Dan-K2VOL> Only a little bit NigeyS, these satellites were frequently very high in the sky and giving unacceptable reception
[14:36] <Dan-K2VOL> Imrcly good idea, a matching network
[14:36] <NigeyS> ah got ya, thought it might work a bit different as it's sattelites involved .. hmmz
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[14:37] <imrcly> i found an IEEE paper but i don't have database access for IEEE maybe Zuph does
[14:42] <SamSilver> I wonder what this is made from? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipinguping/5698137074/in/photostream
[14:42] <Randomskk> you all might enjoy http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Tracking-Device-Teardown/5250/1
[14:42] <Randomskk> the FBI's take on transmitting GPS data over 433MHz :P
[14:44] <Laurenceb_> haha its one of those ancient ublox receivers
[14:44] <Laurenceb_> i have afew of those
[14:45] <Dan-K2VOL> Ahh imrcly nice detective work!!
[14:45] <fsphil> "Sir, the suspect is at ... 15 miles up!"
[14:45] <Randomskk> haha yea putting one on a balloon would be entertaining
[14:45] <Randomskk> I just hope they don't use plaintext rtty :P
[14:47] <Laurenceb_> very well built
[14:48] <Laurenceb_> enclosure
[14:48] <Randomskk> loads of battery capacity too
[14:48] <SpeedEvil> 200Wh!
[14:49] <Laurenceb_> i dont get where the micro is
[14:50] <Laurenceb_> unless they put custom firmware on the ublox
[14:50] <Randomskk> ...or there's no micro
[14:50] <Laurenceb_> guess its feasible... theya re the fbi
[14:50] <Randomskk> wait
[14:50] <Randomskk> there's a micro
[14:50] <Randomskk> flipside of the gps carrier board
[14:50] <Laurenceb_> ublox have compiled some custom images for me a few times
[14:50] <Randomskk> "step 8"
[14:50] <Randomskk> second photo
[14:50] <Randomskk> a /massive/ micro
[14:51] <Laurenceb_> hmm yeah theres an xtal connected
[14:52] <Randomskk> it's hardly going to be anything else
[14:52] <Randomskk> maybe it's doing encryption. one can only hope
[14:52] <Laurenceb_> cant read the text :(
[14:54] <NigeyS> LM9 ... cant make out the rest
[14:55] <NigeyS> or possibly LN36 ..
[14:55] <Randomskk> LN39624P-???P maybe
[14:56] <NigeyS> its got a p in it
[14:56] <Laurenceb_> 4mhz xtal
[14:56] <NigeyS> 634 or 624p
[14:57] <NigeyS> Laurenceb_, looks like an 8mhz ?
[14:57] <Randomskk> LN3?684P
[14:58] <Laurenceb_> nothing on google :(
[14:58] <Laurenceb_> some sort of stupidly big micro
[14:58] <NigeyS> aha found it
[14:58] <Laurenceb_> link?
[14:58] <Randomskk> LN36?84P
[14:59] <NigeyS> lm30624fgmfp
[14:59] <NigeyS> http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/bIds1qOCYtf6imOh.huge
[14:59] <Randomskk> lol
[14:59] <Randomskk> that's a much better photo
[14:59] <Randomskk> there I was trying all sorts of stupid filters to bring out the letters
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[15:00] <NigeyS> haha snap :p
[15:00] <W0OTM> cool, got the Mission_ID field working on the tracker
[15:00] <W0OTM> yeah!
[15:00] <W0OTM> http://www.ihabproject.com/Tracker/?vehicle=&mission_id=RITCHIE-1
[15:00] <Laurenceb_> doh
[15:00] <NigeyS> oh nice work W0OTM ! :D
[15:00] <Laurenceb_> other photo
[15:00] <NigeyS> :p
[15:00] <Laurenceb_> but cant find that ic on google
[15:01] <NigeyS> nor me, cant make out all the letters underneath it, the marker pen has obscured 1 or 2 of them
[15:01] <Laurenceb_> ought to be able to find the ic with google
[15:01] <Laurenceb_> maybe its something a bit... odd
[15:02] <NigeyS> or ancient
[15:02] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[15:02] <NigeyS> the ublox chip is a decade old..lol
[15:02] <Laurenceb_> yeah its older than mine :P
[15:03] <Laurenceb_> presumably the ant goes inside the bumper
[15:03] <NigeyS> guessing so ..
[15:03] <Dan-K2VOL> I wonder if it does a data dump only on remote command
[15:04] <fsphil> wonder if they all use a standard frequency -- if it's something odd, would be easy to spot
[15:04] <Randomskk> would be fun to tune a radio to it and see what you get
[15:04] <Dan-K2VOL> Well the 433 mhz is pretty full of crap
[15:06] <NigeyS> c3701310 .. nothing on google for that either
[15:07] <Laurenceb_> http://www.nowcast.co.uk/lightning/
[15:07] <Laurenceb_> wow big strorm
[15:08] <fsphil> ooh it's kicking up again
[15:09] <fsphil> it had calmed down a bit
[15:11] <NigeyS> ach not again..lol
[15:16] <fsphil> hehe, lights flickering again
[15:30] Action: Laurenceb_ heads to roof to see what he can see
[15:31] <SamSilver> take camera
[15:32] <Laurenceb_> bah nothing interesting here
[15:32] <Laurenceb_> storms in every direction but nothing over head, its nice and sunny
[15:34] <griffonbot> Received email: Keith Lovern "Re: [UKHAS] Information Please"
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[15:42] <fsphil> WOW -- we just had the most intense storm I've ever seen pass over us
[15:42] <fsphil> the lightning was continuous for 15 minutes, massive hail
[15:42] <cuddykid> fsphil, any ground lightning strikes?
[15:42] <fsphil> it's still rumbling
[15:42] <fsphil> loads cuddykid
[15:42] <cuddykid> awesome!
[15:42] <cuddykid> get your 9000fps camera out?! lol
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[15:44] <fsphil> I wish lol
[15:44] <fsphil> I'm amazed the electric is still on
[15:44] <cuddykid> haha
[15:44] <cuddykid> we've only had 1 storm so far (fri evening) was ok, but nothing specail
[15:45] <cuddykid> *special
[15:45] <fsphil> this is the forth storm to pass over us today. they seem to be stronger each time
[15:45] <fsphil> it's very unusual
[15:46] <cuddykid> wow
[15:46] <cuddykid> had some torrential rain earlier
[15:46] <fsphil> eek, thunders getting louder again
[15:46] <fsphil> if I was at home i'd be sitting with the camera :)
[15:46] <fsphil> wish I'd got that hail on video
[15:47] <cuddykid> just looked on the radar and there is a batch of red (heavy) over north/ne ireland
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[15:49] <fsphil> it's heading north/north east - I pitty the fools who went to the beach today :)
[15:52] <cuddykid> lol
[15:53] <NigeyS> lol
[15:53] <fsphil> I wonder if there'll be much more - we've not had a night time storm in a while
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[15:53] <NigeyS> we rarely get night storms down here, but when we do, they tend to be seriously nasty
[15:53] <SpeedEvil> Been monstrously heavy rain in patchs over the last couple of days here in scotland.
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[15:53] <NigeyS> that bad the lighning crackle is literally deafening, and makes the windows vibrate
[15:54] <fsphil> that storm had so much lightning, it would have been incredible at night
[15:54] <NigeyS> SpeedEvil, you had much hail ?
[15:54] <GW8RAK> Well it's all dried up here ready for the ride home :)
[15:54] <NigeyS> GW8RAK, hope it rains and you get wet..lol j/k :-)
[15:54] <fsphil> lol
[15:54] <fsphil> it's just waiting for you to get your new radio setup GW8RAK
[15:55] <GW8RAK> It never rains on the righteous.
[15:55] <NigeyS> yup, then the heavens will ope, and zeus will show you his true power ;)
[15:55] <NigeyS> open*
[15:55] <fsphil> I hope I still have a radio when I get home lol
[15:55] <GW8RAK> Or the person who watches raintoday.co.uk carefully
[15:56] <NigeyS> fsphil, nah m8, its a going to be a mound of melted plastic and pcbs lol
[15:56] <fsphil> worth it, that storm was amazing lol
[15:57] <fsphil> I can still hear it, going strong
[15:57] <NigeyS> !top10
[15:57] <HAMBotty> Top10(words): 1. fsphil(446) 2. NigeyS(421) 3. jcoxon(268) 4. Dan-K2VOL(266) 5. Laurenceb_(145) 6. eroomde(122) 7. Randomskk(113) 8. griffonbot(84) 9. imrcly(57) 10. cuddykid(51)
[15:57] <Randomskk> yay, on the list
[15:58] <Laurenceb_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Furry
[15:58] <NigeyS> even griffonbot is on the list! lol
[15:58] <cuddykid> amazed I'm on!
[15:58] Action: jonsowman needs to speak more
[15:58] <Dan-K2VOL> Lol what time period is that for
[15:58] <NigeyS> Dan-K2VOL, since about 1pm
[15:58] <Laurenceb_> seriously wikipedia
[15:59] <SpeedEvil> NigeyS: very little
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[15:59] <NigeyS> SpeedEvil, i can send you some? :p
[16:00] <MNSP> hello all :)
[16:00] <Laurenceb_> hilter had lots of hail
[16:00] <NigeyS> lol
[16:00] <NigeyS> hey MNSP
[16:00] <MNSP> q
[16:00] <NigeyS> hailis literally just frozen rain right ?
[16:00] <Laurenceb_> yes
[16:01] <MNSP> quick question, any major diff between totex and hwoyee balloons?
[16:01] <NigeyS> so why the hell do we get hail the size of golf balls, ive never seen raindrops that big?!
[16:01] <fsphil> lol
[16:01] <fsphil> they bunch together NigeyS
[16:01] <NigeyS> MNSP, hwyoee have a 13cm neck iirc
[16:01] <fsphil> water doesn't do that
[16:01] <NigeyS> fsphil, ohhh .. you can tell i failed geography right ?
[16:01] <fsphil> lol
[16:02] <MNSP> Errrm, is that good or bad or just how it is?
[16:02] <NigeyS> not used 1, but id imagine it depends on the filler you're using
[16:02] <NigeyS> pvc pipe tends to fit the totex balloons nicely
[16:03] <MNSP> ah right got ya.
[16:03] <MNSP> thanks NigeyS
[16:03] <NigeyS> np
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> NigeyS: Any raindrop that size cannot fall as it has not got enough structural strength,.
[16:04] <NigeyS> aha, that makes sense
[16:04] <SpeedEvil> Rain has a limited size - the maximum is set wehn the turbulence overcomes surface tension as a dominant force, and this rips the drops apart.
[16:04] <SpeedEvil> It takes rather more force to rip an ice ball apart.
[16:04] <NigeyS> yeah, like someones head when it lands on them :( bloody hurts ya know!
[16:05] <MNSP> I guess its the old giant ant problem from the movies, too big to actually work :P
[16:06] <NigeyS> thats a theory thats being applied to alien life to ..
[16:06] <NigeyS> the reason you wont find giant humans, or giant animals if the gravity is similar to that of earth etc etc
[16:07] <SpeedEvil> There are also other size limits.
[16:07] <NigeyS> isnt there a limit on size of limbs ?
[16:07] <MNSP> not according to the Goddess Kali
[16:07] <SpeedEvil> r^3/r^2 - with mamallian or other flesh - there is a constant amount of power needed to keep it alive.
[16:07] <NigeyS> due to the pressure needed by the heart to pump blood ?
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> At some point the organism gets too big to dissipate heat.
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> If nothing else.
[16:08] <NigeyS> mm thats interesting
[16:12] <MNSP> mmm, may be then small wouild be better?
[16:13] <MNSP> insect and arachnids seem to manage lots of limbs
[16:16] <NigeyS> then everything would get squished
[16:17] <MNSP> well ther is that of course :P
[16:18] <Dan-K2VOL> NigeyS, large hail forms when the updrafts of the storm blow rain upward into the freezing levels, as high as 30,000 ft, getting accreted by hitting water droplets and condensing water vapor. They will often buffet up and down for a long time in the cloud in the updraft, gaining size larger and larger, until they either fall out of the updraft or become too heavy to be held up by it.
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> Same happens with rain.
[16:18] <Dan-K2VOL> Except for accretion
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> It's just the tensile strength is too low to be coherent.
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> Including accretion.
[16:19] <Dan-K2VOL> as you explained earlier
[16:19] <Dan-K2VOL> except for accretion beyond a specific size which you explained earlier
[16:19] <NigeyS> oh, so kinda like a pingpong ball in a closed space, up down up down .. but increasing in size .. thats really cool
[16:19] <Dan-K2VOL> thank you for the precision speedevil, as usual
[16:20] <Dan-K2VOL> Yeah NigeyS
[16:20] <Dan-K2VOL> I suppose you could simulate it by blowing a pingpong ball up with spraypaint
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> Sorry - often I just respond mechanically, if feeling lousy.
[16:21] <NigeyS> oo dont give me ideas dan! hehe
[16:21] <Dan-K2VOL> np
[16:21] <W0OTM> !lastseen natrium42
[16:23] <NigeyS> btw i have found this series that was on C4 ages ago very interesting, and 1 of the episodes goes into alien life in great detail, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7044753105944203252#
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[16:29] <cuddykid> got £8.70 more to earn on onepoll before I can get the balloon ordered!
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[16:35] <fsphil> I've hooked my multimeter up to the 5m vertical antenna, and I'm seeing brief fluctuations of about half a volt. could this be distant lightning?
[16:36] <SpeedEvil> I think I'll give up this solar lark, and just install an overshot wheel on the top of the house.
[16:36] <SpeedEvil> yes
[16:37] <fsphil> it's sitting at -0.03v
[16:37] <BrainDamage> or a giant lighting pole
[16:37] <fsphil> then jumps to 0.9v momentarily
[16:37] <BrainDamage> remember to mutter about "1.21 giggawatt" while assembling the pole
[16:38] <fsphil> I'll have to remember not to put it near a tree
[16:38] <fsphil> aah I can hear thunder again
[16:39] <fsphil> oooh = 1.8v spike
[16:39] <fsphil> idle voltage is dropping
[16:39] <fsphil> -0.06v
[16:39] <SamSilver> fsphil: if it spikes above 3 000 000 000KV DUCK!!
[16:39] <SpeedEvil> If the meter explodes, then you've been directly hit.
[16:39] <fsphil> good way to detect a strike that :)
[16:40] <fsphil> south sky is black.. that's not good
[16:41] <fsphil> oooh +2.5v spike
[16:41] <fsphil> I think I better disconnect this lol
[16:41] <SamSilver> bbl
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[16:42] <Laurenceb_> hmm constant dc voltage offset is bad
[16:42] <Laurenceb_> id disconnect it :P
[16:42] <fsphil> lol
[16:42] <fsphil> it's dropped to -0.05v again
[16:42] <fsphil> +3.2v spike ... it's disconnected ;-)
[16:42] <SpeedEvil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_mill
[16:43] <cuddykid> lol fsphil
[16:43] <cuddykid> forget all these green energy alternatives, just have fsphil with his pole!!
[16:44] <NigeyS> phil move AWAY from the big pole while there's lightning
[16:44] <fsphil> I probably shoud
[16:44] <fsphil> oooh that's a deep rumble, the sky is angry
[16:45] <BrainDamage> http://buttersafe.com/comics/2011-03-10-LightningSafety.jpg
[16:45] <NigeyS> lol says phil with a huge METAL pole in his hand.. zap!
[16:45] <NigeyS> lol BrainDamage
[16:49] <griffonbot> Received email: Ed Moore "Re: [UKHAS] Information Please"
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[17:04] <fsphil> it seems to have passed over fairly quietly that one
[17:04] <fsphil> few nice flashes
[17:04] Action: fsphil reconnects the multimeter :)
[17:05] <fsphil> ooh arr, -0.08v
[17:08] <fsphil> moving about quite rapidly, disconnected again
[17:16] <fsphil> -0.1v
[17:17] <fsphil> I really shouldn't be doing this you know :)
[17:18] <fsphil> oook common sense wins.. -1.2v .. with a spike at +3v
[17:19] <Dan-K2VOL> Is that an analog or digital meter
[17:19] <fsphil> digital
[17:19] <fsphil> it's idling with about -0.5v, the -1.2v was only for a few seconds
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[17:19] <fsphil> each flash produces a positive spike in voltage
[17:20] <fsphil> this is between the ground radials and the main element of a vertical
[17:20] <Dan-K2VOL> Are the radials buried?
[17:20] <fsphil> the storm itself is about 5 km away
[17:20] <fsphil> nope
[17:20] <cuddykid> a good party game... who can get the highest voltage reading :P
[17:20] <eroomde> i was really suprised to read how small storms are
[17:21] <fsphil> the base of the vertical is about 1.5m of the ground, the radials slope down from that
[17:21] <Dan-K2VOL> sounds like a good experiment for a balloon to telemeter the voltage between the legs of a long dipole
[17:21] <fsphil> ooooh
[17:21] <eroomde> when researching a mission to launch a hab into a storm, it turns out they're only a few hundred m wide
[17:22] <fsphil> brb, gotta walk the dog before another storm hits
[17:22] <eroomde> the implication being that we'd probably miss
[17:22] <Dan-K2VOL> even nearby a cumulonimbus stack you'll get some massive potientials
[17:23] <Dan-K2VOL> I think you could easily target the cell by plotting its course on radar and using a mobile launch rig
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[17:24] <eroomde> true, although one still has to get in precisely the right place and the winds can pull you away from the cell
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[17:24] <eroomde> even if you're physically underneath it
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[17:35] <priyesh> .
[17:36] <jonsowman> ,
[17:36] <fsphil> I'd just be happy getting a picture of an active cell
[17:37] <fsphil> that last one to pass is producing some epic lightning
[17:37] <fsphil> but very distant now
[17:37] <fsphil> looks like another one coming from the south
[17:37] Action: fsphil reattaches multimeter :)
[17:38] <fsphil> -0.05v
[17:39] <fsphil> and steady -- the lightning seems to have stopped, or is too far away to detect
[17:39] <fsphil> tell a lie, +0.1v spike
[17:39] <eroomde> hmm - a thought
[17:40] <eroomde> can one use lightning as an antenna?
[17:40] <eroomde> a low freq one
[17:40] <hibby> doubt it - would have to find a way to modulate it
[17:41] <fsphil> +0.3v spike.. eek
[17:42] <fsphil> I wonder what I'm really measuring here .. is it the ground voltage or the air
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[17:49] <eroomde> jj:q
[17:49] <eroomde> whopps wrong terminal
[17:49] <jonsowman> irssi =/= vim
[17:49] <jonsowman> :P
[17:50] <eroomde> mouse follows focus is annoying
[17:50] <eroomde> other way round, even
[17:50] <eroomde> focus follows mouse
[17:50] <jonsowman> hmm, mine doesn't
[17:50] <jonsowman> compiz setting?
[17:50] <imrcly> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/228038_2039609109759_1230215133_32479418_7364951_n.jpg
[17:50] <eroomde> yep
[17:51] <eroomde> thank you imrcly
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[18:06] Topic changed on #highaltitude by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.: Welcome to #highaltitude - discuss anything to do with high altitude projects (balloons, gliders, etc) www.ukhas.org.uk - ATLAS2, Project Squirrel launch 10:30 BST 10/5/11 from Churchill College
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[18:11] <Dan-K2VOL> Eroomde, you should be able to modulate lightning
[18:12] <Dan-K2VOL> I've seen plasma antenna research at the uni I was at
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[18:13] <Dan-K2VOL> Useful for steath aircraft, they just extend a glass tube like neon or fluourescent sign out of the aircraft skin as antenna. It doesn't reflect radar, but a coil wrapped around the tube inside causes the plasma to resonate and radiate RF
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[18:19] <Zuph> Has anyone here ever used FreeRTOS?
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[18:22] <Dan-K2VOL> You know I think we ought to have an aerodynamic flight simulator for balloons by now
[18:23] <Zuph> I think we ought to have flying cars and robots that can deliver coffee to my bedside.
[18:23] <Dan-K2VOL> I concur
[18:25] <Dan-K2VOL> I think that a tandem cameraman balloon would be an interesting challenge
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[18:38] <griffonbot> @CollegeARC: @W0OTM Thanks we really appreciate it! #hamr #hamradio #arhab [http://twitter.com/CollegeARC/status/67659780105306112]
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[18:57] <jcoxon> evening all
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[18:58] <jcoxon> food
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[18:58] <fsphil> lol
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[19:05] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQ9lei_24Y
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[19:08] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGN3C0758sA
[19:20] <Dan-K2VOL> Hi Lunar_Lander
[19:20] <Lunar_Lander> hi Dan-K2VOL
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[19:26] <jcoxon> evening all
[19:28] Action: jcoxon is setting up remote M6JCX-base
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[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> hello priyesh jcoxon
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[19:32] <Laurenceb> http://www.element14.com/community/videos/2485?ICID=jeriwwwvideo
[19:32] <Laurenceb> what the ....
[19:33] <jcoxon> from my position in suffolk i can hear the Cam 70cm repeater clearly
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[19:40] <Randomskk> jcoxon: wanna qso on gb3py? :P
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[19:49] <jcoxon> grrr the only thing in the way of my station setup is an unknown bt home hub admin passowrd
[19:51] <jonsowman> if it's the default, it's written on the back
[19:51] <jcoxon> nah
[19:51] <jcoxon> i changed it
[19:51] <jcoxon> and now i worked it out
[19:51] <jonsowman> :)
[19:52] <jcoxon> jonsowman, http://m6jcx.no-ip.org/dl-fldigi-XMLRPC/index.html
[19:52] <jonsowman> nice :D
[19:52] <jcoxon> awesome
[19:55] <jcoxon> okay well thats all setup for tomorrow
[19:55] <jonsowman> jcoxon: got my number for tomorrow?
[19:55] <hibby> I'll be listening up here
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[19:55] <W0OTM> anyone have natrium42 email addyh?
[19:55] <W0OTM> addy*
[19:56] <griffonbot> Received email: Howard Smith "Re: [UKHAS] Information Please"
[19:57] <jcoxon> jonsowman, *996?
[19:58] <jonsowman> jcoxon: that's the one
[19:59] <jcoxon> shame i left my mic at home - would be cool to see if i could activate the cam repeater
[19:59] <jcoxon> jonsowman, i'm all set - just missing one thing - duct tape
[19:59] <jonsowman> hehe
[19:59] <jonsowman> I think we have some here but I wouldn't count on it
[20:00] <jonsowman> I haven't examined the launch kit recently
[20:01] <jcoxon> if we have a problem we can jump in the car and get some
[20:01] <jonsowman> yup
[20:02] <griffonbot> @jamescoxon: atlas2 balloon launch tomorrow 1030BST from Churchill, 434.072Mhz + SPoT #atlasballoon [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/67680927320518656]
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[20:04] <griffonbot> @cuspaceflight: RT @jamescoxon: atlas2 balloon launch tomorrow 1030BST from Churchill, 434.072Mhz + SPoT #atlasballoon [http://twitter.com/cuspaceflight/status/67681481379676161]
[20:06] <jcoxon> thans
[20:06] <jcoxon> :-)
[20:06] <jcoxon> thanks*
[20:06] <jonsowman> no worries
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[20:26] <W0OTM> whats BST?
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> british standard time
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> or summer time
[20:26] <jcoxon> summer time
[20:26] <W0OTM> darn brits
[20:26] <W0OTM> lol
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:28] <jcoxon> W0OTM, GMT + 1
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[20:28] <W0OTM> jcoxon: well, ill be in bed for ur launch......
[20:29] <jcoxon> thats okay W0OTM
[20:30] <W0OTM> :(
[20:30] <jcoxon> its not too exciting
[20:31] <W0OTM> every launch is exciting
[20:31] <W0OTM> what u testing?
[20:31] <jcoxon> a hacked SPoT
[20:32] <jcoxon> so it sends lat/lon/alt
[20:35] <W0OTM> cool
[20:36] <W0OTM> ive been making more progress on my tracker - http://www.ihabproject.com/Tracker/?vehicle=&mission_id=iHAB-5
[20:36] <W0OTM> tracks the balloon and any chase cars
[20:37] <jcoxon> nice
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[21:09] <MNSP> hello all :)
[21:11] <fsphil> yo MNSP
[21:11] <jcoxon> fsphil, you going to be incharge of my remote station?
[21:13] <fsphil> I'll give it a try if I'm not called away doing other things
[21:19] <MNSP> hey fsphil, hows you this eve?
[21:21] <fsphil> not too bad, you MNSP?
[21:21] <MNSP> am good this end :)
[21:22] <MNSP> planning on popping over to cambridge tomorrow
[21:22] <fsphil> cool! hope the weather behaves
[21:22] <MNSP> am hoping to get a 350g balloon end of the month
[21:23] <MNSP> as mine is only a 200g
[21:23] <MNSP> yeah, well its been ok so far, fingers crossed
[21:25] <MNSP> was it you that put up the lightning site yesterday?
[21:25] <fsphil> yea
[21:25] <fsphil> I like this one: http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php?lang=en&subpage_0=3
[21:25] <fsphil> seems the most accurate so far
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[21:27] <hibby> fsphil: elwell in ##amateur-radio is right into that
[21:28] <hibby> he might be in here, tbh
[21:28] <HAMBotty> hibby, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
[21:28] <hibby> he is
[21:28] <fsphil> haha
[21:28] <MNSP> hmm is interesting
[21:28] <MNSP> lol
[21:31] <fsphil> some pretty intense storms today all over the country
[21:32] <Lunar_Lander> http://www.mediafire.com/?or39e5l473pwa41
[21:32] <MNSP> and yet it was nice and sunny where I am
[21:32] <Lunar_Lander> have a look at this
[21:32] <LazyLeopard> Not seen any down here... yet...
[21:33] <MNSP> where are you LazyLeopard?
[21:33] <fsphil> aah not as widespread as the maps made it look
[21:33] <LazyLeopard> JO01ai south-east of London
[21:34] <MNSP> yeah, see not too far from me in Luton, 30m north of London
[21:36] <Lunar_Lander> seen the PDF?
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[21:37] <MNSP_> was it both articles you meant us to look at?
[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[21:37] <MNSP_> 10giga ohm resistor!
[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:38] <fsphil> essential part of the flux capacitor
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[21:40] <MNSP_> that field mill looks interesting!
[21:40] <Lunar_Lander> yea!
[21:41] <SpeedEvil> Field mills are fun.
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> someone in here made a coke can version
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[21:42] <SpeedEvil> Plasma reflects RF.
[21:42] <SpeedEvil> But only when it's plasma
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> like on a re-entry?
[21:43] <MNSP_> :-0 really, a coke can version
[21:43] <MNSP_> cool
[21:43] <SpeedEvil> field mill is quite simple.
[21:43] <SpeedEvil> All you need is a reasonably high impedence input, and a mechanical shutter.
[21:45] <MNSP_> I've not come across them before as far as I can recall
[21:50] <jcoxon> night all
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[21:52] <MNSP_> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=detecting-the-earths-elec
[21:52] <MNSP_> same as before but with colour pics ;)
[21:57] <MNSP_> right chaps, night all :)
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[22:06] <Laurenceb> i made a field mill a few years ago
[22:06] <Laurenceb> worked nicely - you could see the charge building up in the clouds defore each strike
[22:06] Action: Laurenceb did the coke can one
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[22:14] <Lunar_Lander> yeah, good idea SpeedEvil
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[22:49] <NigeyS> !top10
[22:49] <HAMBotty> Top10(words): 1. fsphil(826) 2. NigeyS(671) 3. Dan-K2VOL(541) 4. jcoxon(410) 5. SpeedEvil(236) 6. eroomde(223) 7. MNSP(210) 8. Laurenceb_(165) 9. griffonbot(139) 10. Randomskk(123)
[22:49] <NigeyS> crap i talk to much :/
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[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> hello NigeyS
[22:56] <NigeyS> hey Lunar_Lander
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> how are you?
[23:00] <NigeyS> im good kev, and you ?
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> I'm soso
[23:00] <NigeyS> !topword
[23:00] <NigeyS> hm
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> I'll go visit a blood donation tomorrow
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> and I want to see what happens there
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[23:01] <NigeyS> ouch
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[23:08] <NigeyS> !stat SpeedEvil
[23:08] <HAMBotty> SpeedEvil: 237 words, 1322 letters, 0 smilies, time wasted: 12 hours 1 minute .
[23:08] <NigeyS> :o no smilies
[23:08] <Randomskk> !stat Randomskk
[23:08] <HAMBotty> Randomskk: 125 words, 709 letters, 3 smilies, time wasted: 12 hours 1 minute .
[23:09] <Randomskk> curious
[23:10] <Lunar_Lander> !stat Lunar_Lander
[23:10] <HAMBotty> Lunar_Lander: 68 words, 413 letters, 1 smilies, time wasted: 4 hours 1 minute .
[23:10] <Lunar_Lander> lol
[23:11] <NigeyS> !wordstats Randomskk
[23:11] <HAMBotty> Sorry, I don't have any wordstats about Randomskk in #highaltitude
[23:11] <NigeyS> oo
[23:11] <Randomskk> :'(
[23:11] <Lunar_Lander> ohh
[23:11] <NigeyS> !wordstats NigeyS
[23:11] <HAMBotty> Sorry, I don't have any wordstats about NigeyS in #highaltitude
[23:11] <Randomskk> !wordstats balloon
[23:11] <NigeyS> think i disabled that one
[23:11] <HAMBotty> Sorry, I don't have any stats about balloon in #highaltitude.
[23:11] <NigeyS> lol
[23:11] <Randomskk> suck
[23:11] <NigeyS> !topwords
[23:11] <HAMBotty> I don't have any wordstats in #highaltitude
[23:11] <NigeyS> yup, disabled
[23:12] <NigeyS> Only available if log-wordstats is turned on
[23:12] <NigeyS> duh
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[23:14] <NigeyS> :o it died
[23:14] <NigeyS> <HAMBotty> [23:13:54] * SEGMENT VIOLATION -- CRASHING!
[23:15] <Randomskk> sorry, I'll be gentler with it next time
[23:15] <NigeyS> lol
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[23:16] <hibby> is that like a segfault for bots?
[23:16] <NigeyS> must be, i didnt even touch it !
[23:16] <NigeyS> [23:13:54] * Last context: stats:slang.c/417 []
[23:20] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS I got something for you
[23:22] <Lunar_Lander> seen it?
[23:23] <NigeyS> ahh i saw that earlier
[23:23] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[23:30] <Lunar_Lander> what do you think about it?
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[23:45] <NigeyS> Lunar_Lander, not gone thorugh it in much detail, will have a proper look tomorrow when i'm less busy
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[23:46] <Lunar_Lander> yay
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[23:50] <Dan-K2VOL> hello kevin
[23:50] <Dan-K2VOL> you're up late
[23:51] <NigeyS> mobile time brb!
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[23:52] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[23:53] <Lunar_Lander> I'll hit the bed in a few minutes
[23:53] <Lunar_Lander> and you?
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[23:54] <Lunar_Lander> oh nice predictor failed
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[23:54] <Lunar_Lander> so I can go to bed right away
[23:55] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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