highaltitude.log.20110428

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[01:11] <W0OTM> hello
[01:12] <SpeedEvil> hi
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[02:00] <Dan-K2VOL> anyone awake?
[02:19] <Zuph> Dan-K2VOL: In and out.
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[02:20] <Dan-K2VOL> that's what it's all about
[02:20] <Zuph> hah
[02:20] <Dan-K2VOL> looks like PBH is going to be wandering stateside tomorrow from our gross estimations with a hysplit run for 65000 ft
[02:21] <Dan-K2VOL> and their map, which i don't know when was updated
[02:21] <Dan-K2VOL> makelive was cool tonight, had a rubens tube demo
[02:21] <Zuph> Oh, very cool
[02:21] <Zuph> I haven't watched that before.
[02:22] <Dan-K2VOL> it was like reading hackaday but in live video
[02:23] <Zuph> Neat
[02:23] <Dan-K2VOL> Becky Stern and somebody host it I think, I think she might be in the NYC hackerspaces
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[06:31] <griffonbot> Received email: James Coxon "[UKHAS] PBH ZP Launch tonight"
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[06:49] <griffonbot> Received email: DAKA Technology "RE: [UKHAS] Information Please"
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[07:20] <mattltm-alt> Hi all :)
[07:28] <jonsowman> chrome's new logo is weird
[07:46] <fsphil> the old one was weird
[07:46] <NigelMoby> Get if I see 1 more mention about this royal bloody wedding I'm going to scream!
[07:47] <NigelMoby> Grr*
[07:47] <fsphil> hey NigelMoby -- btw the wedding's tomorrow
[07:48] <NigelMoby> Why don't the BBC just go the whole hog and put a sodding countdown clock on the news page!
[07:51] <fsphil> it could be worse
[07:52] <NigelMoby> Meh
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[08:04] <SpeedEvil> NigelMoby: I think the music only runs for 30s, so it'd be problematic
[08:09] <SpeedEvil> Woo! solar panel - 15C rise at 8ml/s at 8:30 (I've just set it for constant flow from mains at the moment for tests)
[08:11] <SpeedEvil> 500W or so!
[08:11] <SpeedEvil> :)
[08:11] <fsphil> beats my PVs
[08:11] <fsphil> if only you could make electricity from them ;-)
[08:12] <SpeedEvil> I can!
[08:13] <SpeedEvil> Turn the flow down to .8ml/s and get live steam out.
[08:13] <SpeedEvil> Then it's just a simple turbine, and done!
[08:15] <mattltm-alt> NigelMoby: Just for you.... http://www.bored.com/makecountdowns/show.php?id=247048
[08:15] <SpeedEvil> What's the flypast of?
[08:15] <fsphil> lol, steam powered house :)
[08:16] <mattltm-alt> Fly-past by the Royal Air Force and Battle of Britain Memorial Flight.
[08:16] <mattltm-alt> http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01720/Goodwood_revival-1_1720145c.jpg
[08:16] <SpeedEvil> Hmm.
[08:16] <NigelMoby> Lol tnx Matt
[08:17] <SamSilver> cheers
[08:17] <fsphil> I shouldn't have skipped breakfast today.. starving!
[08:17] <SamSilver> bbl
[08:17] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: More seriously - I have wondered about a 150C heat store from the solar for cooking.
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[08:17] <NigelMoby> Love the b.o.b flypasts
[08:17] <SpeedEvil> Indeed.
[08:18] <SpeedEvil> Back when pilot training and planes cost a similar amount.
[08:18] <NigelMoby> Heh Yup
[08:18] <NigelMoby> British engineering at its best imo
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[08:26] <mattltm-alt> NigelMoby: You want me to bring some parts with me so we can knock up a 70cm yagi if yours has a problem?
[08:27] <NigelMoby> Oo sure, still reckon 9:30ish?
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[08:34] <m1x10> hi all
[08:34] <NigelMoby> Hey m1x
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[09:17] <mattltm-alt> Cool NigelMoby, I'll pack some stuff up. Still looking at 9:30 ish.
[09:17] <NigelMoby> Oki dokie dudey.
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[09:23] <fsphil> you'll be awake?
[09:23] <NigelMoby> Lol Yup
[09:23] <NigelMoby> Cooked breakfast to!
[09:24] <fsphil> sweeet
[09:26] <fsphil> nice weather forecast tomorrow, hopefully get out and do some radio
[09:28] <mattltm-alt> Ohh! I can claim my 2e0 call :)
[09:28] <fsphil> woo-hoo!
[09:28] <fsphil> you and your pesky 50 watts :p
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[09:30] <mattltm-alt> But I cant have 2e0mdp :(
[09:30] <mattltm-alt> Suggestions please...
[09:30] <mattltm-alt> 2E0???
[09:31] <NigelMoby> Rain here tomorrow grr
[09:31] <fsphil> 2E0EOE
[09:31] <mattltm-alt> gone :(
[09:32] <fsphil> 2E0MDX
[09:32] <NigelMoby> EOF !
[09:32] <jonsowman> 2E0MOO
[09:32] <fsphil> lol
[09:32] <jonsowman> 2E0LOL
[09:32] <jonsowman> 2E0WTF
[09:32] <jonsowman> ?
[09:32] <NigelMoby> Lol Jon
[09:33] <mattltm-alt> lol.
[09:33] <mattltm-alt> Oh, you have to enter it withot the "e"?
[09:33] <fsphil> yea
[09:33] <jonsowman> mattltm-alt: get your advanced license booked and get your M0 done, then you don't have to worry about the 2E0 :)
[09:33] <fsphil> that got me too
[09:33] <Darkside> hehe
[09:33] <Darkside> i tuned up my HF long-wire
[09:33] <Darkside> and my laptops wifi card stopped working
[09:33] <fsphil> lol
[09:34] <Darkside> i think my feed-point is a little bit too close to my room
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[09:34] <fsphil> When I used my first antenna, it used to turn on the lights in the nest box
[09:34] <Darkside> haha
[09:34] <Darkside> mine made my speakers buzz, even with them turned off
[09:34] <mattltm-alt> lol.
[09:34] <Darkside> i need to get a bunch of ferrite cores
[09:34] <mattltm-alt> More suggestions please..
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[09:35] <fsphil> 2E0RDP
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[09:36] <mattltm-alt> oh rdp is avaliable :)
[09:37] <mattltm-alt> any others?
[09:37] <fsphil> GOD
[09:38] <fsphil> or DOG
[09:38] <fsphil> then I'd be able to say I talked to GOD when I went up the mountain
[09:38] <mattltm-alt> lol.
[09:38] <fsphil> and it was 59
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[09:39] <mattltm-alt> as you would expect :)
[09:39] <fsphil> GIT
[09:39] <mattltm-alt> Lol. tried git :)
[09:39] <fsphil> MAT
[09:39] <NigelMoby> Hub
[09:39] <mattltm-alt> and other "interesting" 3 letter words :p
[09:40] <fsphil> HAX
[09:42] <mattltm-alt> Hag?
[09:42] <mattltm-alt> lol.
[09:42] <mattltm-alt> jonsowman: Im going for the advanced next. Be a few months though :)
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[09:43] <jonsowman> :) good stuff
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[09:44] <fsphil> I'm still waiting on a response to my emails about the advanced
[09:44] <fsphil> the club really is bad a communicating
[09:44] <fsphil> at*
[09:44] <mattltm-alt> Yay. I,m 2E0RDP :)
[09:44] <fsphil> congrats :)
[09:45] <mattltm-alt> Ta.
[09:46] <mattltm-alt> You should get a nice sstv copy from me @ 50W :)
[09:46] <fsphil> just a bit lol
[09:47] <fsphil> hopefully with a half decent antenna I'll be able to better use the 5W
[09:48] <fsphil> at 10W your sstv images came in pretty good (ignoring local noise)
[09:49] <fsphil> I can't see 5W being massively different
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[10:03] <mattltm-alt> Get a G5RV up as an inverted V using your mast a a center support.
[10:04] <mattltm-alt> Try and run it N to S
[10:15] <fsphil> the place i'm thinking of would be ideal for N/S
[10:15] <fsphil> there's a hill to the west but perfectly clear to the east
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[10:17] <fsphil> not sure it would be good enough to quality for a SOTA contact though
[10:17] <fsphil> qualify*
[10:19] <fsphil> the inverted v will need a balun right?
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[10:20] <Darkside> mmm, can't wait until my G5RV rocks up
[10:20] <Darkside> might fix my ADSL-killing problems
[10:20] <fsphil> actually I think I have a half-sized G5RV in a box somewhere
[10:21] <mattltm-alt> fsphil: a g5rv has a built in balun.
[10:22] <mattltm-alt> Do you have an ATU fsphil?
[10:22] <fsphil> I do
[10:22] <SpeedEvil> np: Death of ATU
[10:23] <fsphil> there's a white box with the g5rv but I don't believe it's a balun .. tested with a multimeter and it looks to be just a direct connection. shield to one side, centre wire to the other
[10:25] <mattltm-alt> I run a homebrew doublet (total 50" long) fed with 450 ohm ladder line with an Auto ATU at the base. The Auto ATU has a 4:1 balun.
[10:25] <mattltm-alt> Worke well from 160 through to 6M :)
[10:25] <GW8RAK> Are you going to be out playing HF at the weekend?
[10:26] <GW8RAK> I'll be out in Snowdonia on Saturday /p and will have an HF setup
[10:26] <fsphil> my ATU doesn't work with ladder line directly, though I've a 1:1 balun which should do the job
[10:26] <mattltm-alt> GW8RAK: I am going to Cardif tomorrow to help out Nigey.
[10:26] <GW8RAK> If you are on HF at all, I can probably call in.
[10:27] <GW8RAK> Sitting on a hillside all day playing VHF, so thought I'd take the HF set and try some HF/p
[10:27] <mattltm-alt> The plan is for me and fsphil to go up a hill and do some HF SSTV and other stuff tomorrow afternoon.
[10:27] <GW8RAK> Want to try 20m in the morning for some down under contacts.
[10:28] <GW8RAK> I'll be around tomorrow afternoon. Any ideas on bands?
[10:28] <GW8RAK> 5Mhz is great within the UK, but I don't have an NOV for amateur usage.
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[10:29] <NigeyS> meh
[10:29] <mattltm-alt> GW8RAK: You up snowdon on Sat?
[10:29] <GW8RAK> Most of our cadet HF is on 5Mhz and with NVIS aerials, daytimes are terrific quality.
[10:29] <GW8RAK> Sitting on the side of the Carneddau range on Saturday.
[10:29] <mattltm-alt> I could be tempted to stay down in Cardif and climb pen y fen on Sat.
[10:29] <GW8RAK> Above the Conwy valley
[10:30] <fsphil> if all works on Friday, I'd be up for doing it again on sat
[10:30] <mattltm-alt> It's tempting :)
[10:30] <GW8RAK> I'll have an 8m vertical up, but can rig an inverted V with ease.
[10:30] <NigeyS> we got some nasty thunderstorms forcast for saturday mind
[10:30] <GW8RAK> Not in the sunny North NigeyS :)
[10:31] <NigeyS> bah give me your sun! lol
[10:31] <mattltm-alt> GW8RAK: I'll have a link dipole and a 10M vertical with me. Oh, and a new call :)
[10:31] <GW8RAK> NO! You had it last week.
[10:31] <NigeyS> friday .. rain .. saturday .. rain and thunder .. where did summer go?!
[10:31] <mattltm-alt> Summer was last weekend.
[10:31] <NigeyS> lol
[10:31] <SpeedEvil> I disagree!
[10:32] <GW8RAK> Not up here, it's really good this week.
[10:32] Action: SpeedEvil is observing 53C from his solar panel trickling out into a barrel
[10:32] <SpeedEvil> (~28l/h)
[10:32] <GW8RAK> Is that a vertical for 10m or a 10m high vertical mattltm_alt?
[10:32] <NigeyS> prolly both knowing matt!
[10:33] <NigeyS> :p
[10:33] <GW8RAK> I'm waiting to try 28Mhz band portable with the clansman. It should be really good.
[10:34] <mattltm-alt> A 10M high vertical the an ATU :)
[10:34] <mattltm-alt> And an ft-857.
[10:35] <NigeyS> oo new harry potter trailer looks cool!
[10:35] <GW8RAK> The only time I've really tried a vertical on HF was with the standard 2.4m one on the clansman set and amazingly it was working about 100km.
[10:36] <mattltm-alt> Oh, I also have a 12' clansman whip.
[10:37] <mattltm-alt> May bring that too :)
[10:37] <mattltm-alt> I need a van :)
[10:37] <GW8RAK> With the full 8m one, I was working 80m AM very well around the UK. Even quite close in.
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[10:39] <NigeyS> matt ure going to need an arctic!
[10:39] <fsphil> I'll bring the G5RV and enough wire to try a vertical too
[10:40] <mattltm-alt> lol.
[10:40] <NigeyS> i'll bring .... a deaf yagi ad a washing line .........
[10:41] <mattltm-alt> fsphil: Fancy a trip over to pen y fen on Saturday?
[10:42] <mattltm-alt> I'll bring the tent and a real radio for you :)
[10:42] <fsphil> if there was a road there I would :)
[10:42] <GW8RAK> This is sounding like a real radio trip. If I'm high enough up, I may be able to get you on VHF. I'll have 50W and a beam
[10:42] <fsphil> actually GW8RAK, I wonder if I could hear you on vhf from where I'm at. though it's only about 300m asl
[10:42] <mattltm-alt> GW8RAK: In that case i'll pack the 4 element 2M beam too :)
[10:43] <mattltm-alt> Im gona need a pack horse...
[10:43] <mattltm-alt> Nigey?
[10:43] <GW8RAK> Haven't got Memory Map on this machine so can't check the path profile. Certainly from Pen y Fan with a 5W handheld you'll get to snowdonia with ease.
[10:44] <NigeyS> i aint no horse! lol
[10:44] <mattltm-alt> lol.
[10:44] <mattltm-alt> More of a Donkey?
[10:44] <NigeyS> lmao oi ! arsenic in your breakfast tomorrow mr!
[10:44] <fsphil> I talking Donkey!
[10:44] <fsphil> A/I
[10:44] <GW8RAK> Got to go. bbl
[10:45] <NigeyS> cya later GW8RAK
[10:45] <NigeyS> reminds me matt, have to pop to mums later to pick up the yagi
[10:45] <mattltm-alt> cool.
[10:46] <mattltm-alt> bye GW8RAK
[10:46] <NigeyS> it was just as deaf over there as it is over here
[10:47] <mattltm-alt> We'll get it sorted tomorrow.
[10:48] <NigeyS> you're packing a blowtorch? we could melt it down and make a new 1 lol
[10:51] <mattltm-alt> lol.
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[11:20] <mattltm-alt> 10 mins till home time :)
[11:20] <fsphil> lucky git :p
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[11:40] <m1x10> hi fsphil
[11:41] <SpeedEvil> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/news/134_hours_events.html
[11:41] <SpeedEvil> Specifically - thurdsday 11am
[11:41] <SpeedEvil> 11 a.m. -- CCDev2 Briefing
[11:41] <SpeedEvil> with spacx
[11:44] <SpeedEvil> 4pm?
[11:45] <fsphil> hiya m1x10
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[12:13] <mattltm> Ah ha! I have returned!
[12:14] Action: fsphil hides
[12:14] <mattltm> lol.
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[12:47] <GW8RAK> Afternoon, I see that Waters and Stanton have got an 817 on ebay for £515.95 on a Buy it Now or Make Offer. I wonder what I should offer them?
[12:51] <GW8RAK> The buggers have just ended it. They've had 2 offers, so presumably cheeky ones.
[12:51] <fsphil> was it new? that's quite expensive
[12:52] <fsphil> the 857d is listed as Low Stock - Phone
[12:53] <GW8RAK> Yes, brand new. They have gone up a lot in price in the last year or so.
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[12:54] <GW8RAK> they seem to have been oscillating a bit recently. List price is £505.95 so the other £10 was for the "free" carriage
[12:54] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[12:54] <GW8RAK> Hi Lunar_Lander
[12:54] <fsphil> hiya Lunar_Lander
[12:54] <Lunar_Lander> hi fsphil GW8RAK
[12:54] <Lunar_Lander> how's life?
[12:54] <GW8RAK> Had quite a bit of money in today so feel like spending some of it on a new transceiver
[12:55] <fsphil> lol
[12:55] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[12:55] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[12:55] <fsphil> if that 857d was in stock I'd probably get it
[12:55] <Lunar_Lander> my new sparkfun package made it from Boulder to Denver
[12:55] <fsphil> though I'm resisting, until I see how well the antenna works tomorrow
[12:55] <fsphil> hmm.. speaking of tomorrow, the batteries haven't arrived
[12:56] <mattltm> Uh oh!
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[12:56] <Lunar_Lander> hi mattltm
[12:57] <fsphil> ah, it's out for delivery
[12:57] <fsphil> though the status page says "Discrepancy". no indication what that means
[12:58] <Laurenceb_> parcel companies piss me off
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[12:59] <fsphil> this one in particular seems to regularly mess things up
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[13:00] <fsphil> they delivered a parcel addressed to my house to the office instead, and then a few days later called at my home asking if it had been delivered there - cause they had lost it
[13:00] <mattltm> fsphil: Testing out my laptop and just had an sstv exchange with a JA station!
[13:01] <fsphil> you flexing your new license? or did you do that on 10W?
[13:02] <mattltm> 20W
[13:02] <mattltm> Still going :)
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[13:02] <fsphil> wow
[13:02] <fsphil> impressive
[13:02] <mattltm> Lol. Now a UI!
[13:03] <fsphil> and I was impressed with Cookstown <> Kent :)
[13:05] <mattltm> I should be building a yagi and not messing around on 20M
[13:05] <fsphil> lol
[13:05] <mattltm> I should ramp it up to 50W and see what I can pull in!
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[13:08] <mattltm> I'm likeing sstv :)
[13:09] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[13:09] <Lunar_Lander> hi mattltm
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[13:10] <mattltm> Hi lunar
[13:10] <Lunar_Lander> how's life?
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[13:20] <fsphil> I'm hoping to try SSDV tomorrow too
[13:20] <fsphil> a small image anyway
[13:21] <SamSilver> slow scan tv?
[13:22] <fsphil> indeed, only ssdv is sending jpegs
[13:24] <hibby> fsphil: launching tomorrow?
[13:24] <SamSilver> oh I must check it out, I only know of sstv
[13:24] <fsphil> hibby, nah - just playing radio
[13:25] <fsphil> heading up a hill tomorrow to do some HF
[13:25] <hibby> ah, cool
[13:25] <hibby> if you want to try hill -> glasgow ssdv I'll be in the office most likely.
[13:26] <fsphil> ooh definitely
[13:26] <fsphil> mattltm and NigeyS are both going to be doing HF stuffs too
[13:26] <hibby> can only do uhf/vhf from the office, but if I get the 817 I might string up a longwire antenna in a park somewhere
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[13:28] <fsphil> I wonder if you're too far for VHF
[13:28] <fsphil> suppose it depends on the weather
[13:29] <hibby> going to be high pressure with little moisture
[13:31] <Lunar_Lander> back
[13:31] <Lunar_Lander> fried potatoes with bacon and eggs are good!
[13:31] <fsphil> I'll bring the vhf yagi, worth a try
[13:31] <fsphil> mmmm
[13:31] Action: fsphil has spagetti for lunch
[13:31] <Lunar_Lander> hi hibby SamSilver
[13:31] <Lunar_Lander> yay
[13:31] <fsphil> had*
[13:33] <hibby> hola
[13:33] <SamSilver> Hi Lunar_Lander
[13:33] Action: hibby had chips n cheese, lol
[13:33] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[13:33] <Lunar_Lander> and chocolate pudding!
[13:33] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[13:34] <mattltm> fsphil: I'll have a 2M yagi with me too.
[13:35] <mattltm> What do you use for ssdv? Easypal?
[13:37] <fsphil> dl-fldigi
[13:37] <fsphil> but I'll need to compile up a new version, I added a checksum to the packets
[13:37] <mattltm> oh
[13:38] <fsphil> RX only atm, the program for encoding is a bit crude
[13:38] <mattltm> I see
[13:39] <mattltm> You want me to get dl-fldigi installed on the laptop too?
[13:39] <fsphil> I'll put together something a bit friendlier tonight maybe
[13:39] <fsphil> if you're up for the experiment - it probably won't work
[13:40] <mattltm> I've never said no to anything experemental ;p
[13:40] <mattltm> apart from learning how to spell!
[13:42] <fsphil> lol
[13:42] <fsphil> compiling up the latest git version now
[13:42] <fsphil> windows yea?
[13:43] <mattltm> yup. 7
[13:45] <m1x10> hi Lunar_Lander
[13:45] <Lunar_Lander> hi m11
[13:45] <Lunar_Lander> m1x10
[13:45] <Lunar_Lander> how are you today?
[13:46] <m1x10> sleepy ):
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[13:46] <m1x10> i need to sleep some time, then go out drink something
[13:46] <m1x10> i got 8 days off
[13:47] <m1x10> from army
[13:47] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[13:47] <m1x10> :)
[13:47] <m1x10> anyway
[13:47] <Lunar_Lander> I got a good news too
[13:47] <m1x10> must go
[13:47] <m1x10> ah
[13:47] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[13:47] <m1x10> tell
[13:47] <m1x10> tell !
[13:47] <Lunar_Lander> my new sparkfun stuff is in Denver already
[13:47] <m1x10> good is always welcome
[13:47] <Lunar_Lander> I used FedEx this time
[13:47] <m1x10> lol
[13:47] <Lunar_Lander> as USPS pissed me off cause they didn't track the package
[13:47] <m1x10> i always use usps
[13:47] <m1x10> no money!
[13:48] <Lunar_Lander> FedEx at least tells me that a thunderstorm in Denver stops deliveries today
[13:48] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[13:48] <Lunar_Lander> last time I also had empty pockets :(
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[13:49] <m1x10> :p
[13:49] <m1x10> anyway
[13:49] <m1x10> mist go1
[13:49] <m1x10> must go!
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[13:53] <mattltm> Anyone want to order an NTX2?
[13:54] <fsphil> I'm after an NRX2
[13:54] <mattltm> fsphil: Me too. You want me to get one with my order for you?
[13:54] <mattltm> I'll post it free to you.
[13:56] <fsphil> wait, it needs to be on an odd frequency
[13:57] <hibby> I prefer even frequencies myself
[13:58] <SamSilver> FT-817ND > https://blu162.mail.live.com/default.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0
[13:59] <fsphil> that's just rational though
[13:59] <fsphil> :p
[13:59] <hibby> SamSilver: that's a hotmail sign in, not a radio!
[13:59] <SamSilver> oops
[13:59] <SamSilver> wait
[14:00] <W0OTM> Howdy HAB friends
[14:00] <W0OTM> and people I hate
[14:00] <W0OTM> :)
[14:00] <mattltm> lol.
[14:00] <SamSilver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smeihKCx_CY&feature=player_embedded
[14:03] <fsphil> mattltm, n/m -- I'll need to talk to them about getting a custom version
[14:03] <SamSilver> FT-817ND Go-Pack
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[14:12] <fsphil> mattltm, https://www.sanslogic.co.uk/files/dl-fldigi-3.20.34-github_setup.exe
[14:12] <fsphil> I'll cook up a test file shortly
[14:14] <mattltm> NigeyS: Still around?
[14:16] <mattltm> Ta fsphil, I'll install it now.
[14:23] <GW8RAK> I thought he was going to open his GoPack and everything was ready to run. Just connect to an aerial and it's ready.
[14:25] <SamSilver> me 2, i thought maybey even carry it on your chest and use on the move.
[14:25] <GW8RAK> I've seen some people who can operate directly from their "Go Packs".
[14:26] <GW8RAK> And while mobile.
[14:26] <GW8RAK> Bicycle mobile looks like fun
[14:27] <SamSilver> QRPM
[14:27] <SamSilver> m = mobile
[14:27] <fsphil> There's a guy on youtube with a box, containing an 817 + battery + solar panel
[14:27] <fsphil> he's brought out all the connectors to the box, doesn't even have to open it
[14:27] <fsphil> my batteries have arrived. yay!
[14:29] <GW8RAK> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rljb-Rq7ZWg&feature=related at 5 minutes is really pedestrian mobile
[14:30] <fsphil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfUxDfKlbfE
[14:30] <fsphil> it's an impressive setup
[14:31] <GW8RAK> Now that looks good.
[14:35] <fsphil> I was looking through the argos book earlier for the same sort of case
[14:39] <NigeyS> rar
[14:39] <NigeyS> mattltm, just bk, wassup ?
[14:40] <mattltm> What connector does your yagi and radio have?
[14:41] <NigeyS> radio is bnc, yagi has ntype > bnc adaptor
[14:41] <mattltm> ok cool.
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[14:42] <Lunar_Lander> hi NigeyS
[14:43] <NigeyS> hey kev
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[14:43] <Lunar_Lander> finally good predictions again!
[14:43] <Lunar_Lander> first days of may head almost directly due South
[14:43] <Lunar_Lander> 'cause on April 29, I'd have landed in the middle of Arnhem!
[14:44] <fsphil> mattltm, ssdv test file: https://yoshi.sanslogic.co.uk/net/dropbox/output.flac
[14:46] <fsphil> 300 baud, 350 hz shift, 8-bit, no parity and 2 stop bits
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[14:59] <SpeedEvil> mms://a2swmod036.bcst.cdn.a2s.yimg.com/spinenc03_d?StreamID=123461643&pl_auth=fc189fdcd268ae1cf5ed31019c08fc68&ht=120&pl_b=00D90C088657709369760F33504DB980B4&CG_ID=1369080&Segment=149773 spacex/nasa briefing on NASA TV in a few mins
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[15:12] <Lunar_Lander> cu later
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[15:15] <SpeedEvil> starting now
[15:16] <GW8RAK> I want to go home. I'm bored at work this afternoon. Roll on the weekend.
[15:17] Action: SpeedEvil watches NASA TV/
[15:25] Action: fsphil fixes silly things
[15:26] Action: Laurenceb_ RAAGGEEEE
[15:26] Action: SpeedEvil wonders.
[15:27] <fsphil> I also just had a conversation with an angry German
[15:27] <SpeedEvil> Did you mention the war?
[15:27] <GW8RAK> Don't tell him Pike
[15:27] <fsphil> Not even a hint
[15:27] <Laurenceb_> lol
[15:27] <Laurenceb_> lsm303dlh
[15:28] <GW8RAK> And a cryptic comment from Laurenceb_ there
[15:28] <Laurenceb_> its magno wont work
[15:29] <SpeedEvil> Annoying.
[15:30] <Laurenceb_> ive checked all the soldering it it seems to be fine
[15:30] <Laurenceb_> and the accel works ok
[15:30] <Laurenceb_> im thinking either the set reset caps or the power supply
[15:31] <Laurenceb_> aiui it should still respond to i2c with a set reset caps screwed up, so its pobably the power supply
[15:31] <Laurenceb_> im trying to run it parasitically off an itg3200
[15:32] <Laurenceb_> but when i check the woltage rail with a multimeter its 1.8v... i dont have a scope tho
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> Lol 'my slides broke'
[15:33] <Laurenceb_> *voltage
[15:33] <SpeedEvil> (nasa TV)
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[15:33] <Laurenceb_> one thing i didnt realise, the deguassing thingy runs of the digital supply
[15:33] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb_: maybe a big cap on the supply?
[15:33] <Laurenceb_> so my best guess is its not booting as it cant source enough current
[15:33] <SpeedEvil> to test
[15:34] <Laurenceb_> i already have a 10uf cap there
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[15:34] <Laurenceb_> ive ordered some 1.8v regs and mlcc caps to redo the set reset thingy, but due to royal wedding stupidity they wont be here til next week
[15:36] <Laurenceb_> my multimeter seems to be picking up some weird fluctuations on the 1.8v line
[15:37] <SpeedEvil> I was meaning something like 470
[15:37] <Laurenceb_> i dont want to fry the itg3200
[15:37] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[15:37] <Laurenceb_> but drawinga ton of current off
[15:38] <SpeedEvil> What is the low limit on 1.8?
[15:38] <Laurenceb_> 1.72
[15:38] <Laurenceb_> its quite demainding
[15:38] <SpeedEvil> Fresh alkaline a little too low then
[15:38] <Laurenceb_> *demanding
[15:38] <SpeedEvil> Not got a 317 or something you can hook up?
[15:38] <Laurenceb_> guess it sensible to wait
[15:38] <Laurenceb_> maybe...
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[15:39] <Laurenceb_> according to #openpilot they found it drew huge current spikes off the digital rail to drive the deguassing thingy
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> Makes sense
[15:39] <Laurenceb_> and hooked it up to the digital 3.3v rail through a ldo
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> Lol.
[15:40] <Laurenceb_> yeah i thought it ran that off the 3.3v supply
[15:40] <SpeedEvil> SpaceX guy.
[15:40] <Laurenceb_> would help if the datasheet was more clear
[15:40] Action: Laurenceb_ doesnt have earphones
[15:40] <SpeedEvil> Brings up model onto desk. 'This is not actual size'
[15:40] <Laurenceb_> heh
[15:41] <Laurenceb_> ill wait till next week and dead bug a 1.8v reg on there to the digital supply
[15:41] <Laurenceb_> a bit messy but ...
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> Everything else working?
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> Does it specify maximum current ion 1.8?
[15:43] <Laurenceb_> no
[15:43] <Laurenceb_> thats why its annoying
[15:44] <Laurenceb_> yeah accel, bmp085, pitot sensor and itg3200 gyros all working
[15:44] <SpeedEvil> Great!
[15:44] <Laurenceb_> the usd holder is sweet - nice push/push eject mechanism
[15:44] <SpeedEvil> bmp - is that baro?
[15:45] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[15:45] <Laurenceb_> my only issue atm is the on/off switch is a bit stiff
[15:45] <Laurenceb_> i may file away some pcb to make it easier to flick with fingernails
[15:46] <Laurenceb_> its the same switch as the df3120
[15:47] <SAIDias> .
[15:47] Nick change: SAIDias -> W0OTM
[15:47] <fsphil> `
[15:47] <Laurenceb_> oh the sparkfun lipo cells are nice - turns out it has undervoltage, overvoltage and short circuit protection
[15:48] <SpeedEvil> ah
[15:48] <Randomskk> oh, shit, I totally hadn't realised the royal wedding would fess up ordering some parts
[15:48] <Randomskk> Laurenceb_: where'd you order from?
[15:48] <Randomskk> seems like maybe if I order today farnell can ship them and they'd get here saturday?
[15:48] <Laurenceb_> rs
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[15:48] <Laurenceb_> i work next door to the depot in nott
[15:48] <Randomskk> won't they arrive saturday or have they not shipped?
[15:49] <Laurenceb_> but they dont have the 1.8v regs in stock there
[15:49] <Randomskk> ah, right
[15:49] <Laurenceb_> everything seems to be shut down till tuesday
[15:49] <Randomskk> post or RS?
[15:49] <Laurenceb_> rs - pickup from trade counter
[15:49] <Randomskk> curious
[15:49] <Randomskk> oh well
[15:50] <Laurenceb_> its convenient being able to avoid delivery charges
[15:50] <Randomskk> farnell have free delivery anyway :P
[15:50] <Laurenceb_> for >£20
[15:50] <Randomskk> for all orders
[15:50] <Laurenceb_> huh i cant order <£20
[15:50] <Randomskk> gotta have an acct
[15:51] <Laurenceb_> oh can anyone have an account?
[15:51] <Randomskk> guess so. I do
[15:51] <Laurenceb_> ah thats convenient - thought it was business only
[15:52] <Laurenceb_> and you needed vat etc
[15:52] <Laurenceb_> im off, cya
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> swave
[15:52] <Randomskk> bye
[15:53] <SamSilver> bbl
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[16:15] <eroomde> Dan-K2VOL: yo
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[16:21] <Dan-K2VOL> hey eroomde
[16:23] <eroomde> how are tricks?
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[16:24] <eroomde> say, infact to bypass smalltalk, I wanted to ask you something - do you or any of your antenna experts know about cylindrical patch antennas?
[16:24] <eroomde> with a view to integrating antennas into rocket tubes
[16:25] <eroomde> for our last project we had to put the antennas inside the aerodynamic tube but the new rockets are carbon fibre so they need to be outside, but survive Mach 5
[16:25] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb was just going to use several ceramics round the body
[16:25] <eroomde> heavy
[16:25] <SpeedEvil> The teeny ceramics
[16:26] <eroomde> smelly
[16:26] <eroomde> and the phasing harness for that would be a bundle of fun :)
[16:26] <eroomde> i'd like to intgrate wee copper tubes into the carbon moulding ideally, then bake the whole antenna array in
[16:26] <eroomde> in the autoclave*
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[16:42] <mattltm> Cool. That was an hour well spent. I now have a 5 band linked dipole :)
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[16:45] <eroomde> good work mattltm
[16:46] <fsphil> sweet
[16:47] <fsphil> just looking at the PBH prediction, they're going backwards :)
[16:48] <eroomde> whoopsie
[16:48] <eroomde> what's the limk?
[16:48] <eroomde> link*
[16:48] <fsphil> http://www.projectbluehorizon.com/
[16:48] <fsphil> under the flight tracker tab
[16:48] <fsphil> the blue line
[16:49] <fsphil> very faint blue line
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[16:49] <Dan-K2VOL> nice
[16:49] <fsphil> good if they're going for the longest float time, should be within range of an aprs station most of that
[16:49] <fsphil> but not so good for distance or trans-at
[16:50] <Dan-K2VOL> I think their academic year is running out, so they have to fly regardless
[16:50] <fsphil> aah
[16:50] <eroomde> that and pay day
[16:50] <Dan-K2VOL> trans-atlantic seems to be something that is not won lightly
[16:50] <eroomde> i'll send a bottle of burgundy to the first peeps that do it
[16:51] <eroomde> at least, who are not employees of arms megacorp
[16:51] <fsphil> what if they don't drink? :)
[16:51] <LazyLeopard> mattltm: One of those "connect the links you need" types?
[16:51] <eroomde> shich i suspect will be dan and brad
[16:51] <eroomde> dan and brad, do you drink?
[16:51] <Dan-K2VOL> well, we drink, and I hope to take you up on it!
[16:51] <fsphil> I hope so
[16:51] <eroomde> good
[16:51] <Dan-K2VOL> we'll toast on the live stream if it happens ;-)
[16:52] <eroomde> you can get a corton grand cru
[16:52] <eroomde> it's a worthy achievment
[16:52] <fsphil> I shall have a cream egg in celebration :)
[16:52] <eroomde> i am about 2 miles from corton currently. most relaxing week ever. major diet needed on return though
[16:53] <eroomde> about a bottle of wine a day, + a kilo of cheese and bread
[16:53] <Dan-K2VOL> nice
[16:53] <Dan-K2VOL> haha I like that
[16:53] <eroomde> my body is definitely not used to it
[16:53] <eroomde> mouth is happy, the rest isn't
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[17:00] <eroomde> fsphil: are you a non-drinker?
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[17:03] <NigeyS> thats it, im blocking every sodding news site on the router, the wedding malarky is getting stupid!
[17:07] <Zuph> I keep getting offers in the mail to join AARP. I'm not sure if I should be insulted.
[17:08] <mattltm> LazyLeopard: Yes. Ready for 10, 20, 30, 40 and 80M.
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[17:12] <cuddykid> NigeyS: agreed!
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[17:17] <LazyLeopard> mattltm: I think I should make something like that...
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[17:20] <cuddykid> is it easy to integrate a temp sensor into my payload (already have some maxim ones)?
[17:21] <Dan-K2VOL> cuddykid it depends entirely on how handy you are with programming and electronics
[17:22] <cuddykid> Dan-K2VOL: not very with prgramming! May give it a go and see, however, it does look quite fiddly!
[17:23] <fsphil> eroomde, yea
[17:26] <Dan-K2VOL> what type of sensor do you have, I2C, analog, SPI ?
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[17:49] <mattltm> LazyLeopard: Very easy to do. I'm doing a quick blog post on it.
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[17:53] <W0OTM> Sup HAB ppl
[17:53] <LazyLeopard> mattltm: One featured in one of the recent SOTA videos. Didn't get a close enough look at the links, though.
[17:53] <fsphil> mattltm, this what you'll be using tomorrow?
[17:55] <Zuph> Sup W0OTM
[17:56] <W0OTM> Zuph: howdy
[17:57] <mattltm> fsphil: Yes, I'll have it with me.
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[17:59] <fsphil> I'm listing what I need to bring
[18:00] <mattltm> fsphil: I'll be good for 10, 20, 30, 40 & 80M
[18:01] <fsphil> the batteries arrived charged, so no problems there
[18:01] <mattltm> cool.
[18:01] <fsphil> this antenna should tune up on those frequencies.. no idea how well it'll work though :)
[18:01] <fsphil> making a battery adaptor for the tuner
[18:02] <fsphil> should have plenty of coax
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[18:02] <fsphil> will need some string to keep the mast up
[18:02] <fsphil> by mast I mean pole
[18:02] <mattltm> lol.
[18:03] Action: LazyLeopard heads out.
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[18:04] <fsphil> the weight of the cable might cause the pole to collapse closed
[18:04] <fsphil> will bright some tape
[18:04] <fsphil> bring*
[18:04] <mattltm> My 10M pole can hold up an inverted V with 15M of rg58 attached without tape.
[18:05] <cuddykid> fsphil: is the launch off for tomorrow?
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[18:06] <fsphil> was never on cuddykid, the predictions are not good at all
[18:06] <cuddykid> ahh, ok, nevermind!
[18:06] <fsphil> I'd love to though :)
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[18:12] <fsphil> yikes .. WB8ELK: "all the tornadoes missed me...barely....one missed me by 100 yards"
[18:13] <BrainDamage> yeah, using yards in 2011 really sends goosebumps from the horror
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[18:21] <Hiena_food> Hehehe..
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[18:24] <mattltm> Dinner time.. Byee..
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[18:25] <cuddykid> I wonder if any of the maxim radio modules (wifi ones) could be used for payload to cutdown communication... just ordered a few samples, wonder what they will be like!
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[18:29] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[18:30] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[18:31] <Lunar_Lander> hi fsphil Upu NigeyS
[18:31] <Lunar_Lander> hello W0OTM
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[18:43] <fsphil> hullo Lunar_Lander
[18:44] <Lunar_Lander> hi
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> friend told me that a lesbian was raped and killed in ZA
[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> :(
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[18:59] <cuddykid> hi Lunar_Lander
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[18:59] <Lunar_Lander> hi cuddykid Laurenceb
[18:59] <Laurenceb> hi
[19:00] <cuddykid> the kind people over at rocketsandthings have agreed to send me a 24" ripstop parachute! yay :D
[19:00] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[19:00] <Lunar_Lander> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGlrobvb-ao&feature=related
[19:00] <cuddykid> thats one less thing on my list!
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[19:05] <eroomde> cuddykid: you've been sponsored by Malcolm?
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[19:06] <cuddykid> eroomde: yeah :)
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[19:06] <eroomde> the cheeky bugger
[19:06] Nick change: slothear1 -> slothearn
[19:07] <eroomde> I see him almost monthly, never so much as a cardboard tube
[19:08] <cuddykid> lol, he said he'll send me 24inch parachute
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[19:10] <Lunar_Lander> cool
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[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> great to hear cuddykid
[19:44] <fsphil> ISS pass in 20 minutes
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[19:48] <hibby> aye
[19:48] <hibby> im not going to pull down anything into this shiny new ubuntu setup
[19:48] <hibby> everyone's attacking the repos
[19:48] <hibby> so I might as well reboot.. sad times
[19:49] <fsphil> aah yes, new ubuntu
[19:49] <hibby> yum
[19:49] <hibby> 'salright
[19:49] <fsphil> is it as bad as the new fedora?
[19:49] <hibby> unity isn't too bad
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[19:49] <fsphil> I must grab a live cd, give it a spin
[19:49] <hibby> and gnome3 isn't as objectionable as some people make out
[19:50] <hibby> im still a fedora kinda guy, really
[19:50] <fsphil> I think it has potential
[19:50] <fsphil> but the first release is going to be painful
[19:51] <fsphil> I may skip it on my main machine, until F16
[19:51] <fsphil> but put it on the laptop
[19:51] <hibby> aye. I'm more of a kde type, too, but g3 was nice to use - screen space is very efficently used
[19:52] <fsphil> I haven't used kde since the redhat linux days :)
[19:53] <hibby> heheh
[19:56] <fsphil> Sony does seem to be doing it's best impression of a headless chicken atm
[20:02] <fsphil> 1 minute
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[20:04] <fsphil> nothing heard so far
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[20:05] <Lunar_Lander> hello m1x10 and Blackover
[20:05] <Blackover> Hello rhre
[20:05] <fsphil> faint signal
[20:06] <Blackover> was there projects with geiger tubes?
[20:07] <Blackover> i know that was but can find description
[20:07] <Blackover> *cant
[20:07] <fsphil> hmmm silence again
[20:07] Action: fsphil has broke the ISS
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> ohhh!
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> Blackover Apex II for instance had them
[20:08] <Blackover> where can i read collected data?
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[20:09] <Lunar_Lander> http://www.apexhab.org/apex-ii/launch-2-data/
[20:10] <m1x10> hi all
[20:10] Action: jonsowman waves
[20:10] <Lunar_Lander> it's "IRD Count"
[20:10] <Blackover> counts per minute?
[20:10] <jonsowman> per 30 sec
[20:11] <hibby> seems quiet, this pass
[20:11] <m1x10> what is IRD count?
[20:11] <hibby> also, tnc has just died
[20:11] <jonsowman> m1x10: ionising radiation detectors
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> m1x10 Ionization Radiation
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:11] <Blackover> and why gap between 5:10 and 5:30&
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> malfunction
[20:11] <jonsowman> Blackover: they failed for unknown reasons
[20:11] <m1x10> omg
[20:11] <jonsowman> happened on launch 1 as well
[20:12] <m1x10> where can I find a IRC sensor?
[20:12] <jonsowman> we thought it was the HV supply getting too cold but we better insulated it for launch 2 and they still failed
[20:12] <jonsowman> m1x10: they are engineering samples from a company called Centronics
[20:13] <fsphil> hibby, not a peep from the station -- and for some reason I couldn't see it either :)
[20:13] <Blackover> IRC? probably IRD?
[20:13] <m1x10> IRD sory
[20:13] <Blackover> )
[20:14] <fsphil> right, tesco for some stuffs!
[20:14] <hibby> fuse on the distributer board is goosed
[20:14] <Blackover> i also want geiger tube in my project but can't buy it due to Fucusima-1
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[20:15] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[20:15] <Laurenceb> ????
[20:15] <Lunar_Lander> is Russia under those US Export Control things?
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> cause sparkfun may not send geiger tubes to some places they told me
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> but I'd rather think those places are Iran or Cuba
[20:16] <Laurenceb> wut
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> or Libya
[20:16] <Laurenceb> gieger counters are easy to make
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> or North Korea
[20:17] <Lunar_Lander> Laurenceb yeah a friend of mine who lives overseas says that they are export controlled because they have to do with ionizing radiation
[20:17] <Laurenceb> weird
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[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> and NTIS of the USA also doesn't deliver to the countries I mentioned
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> however, Russia is not among them
[20:18] <Blackover> in Russia, custom may not pass geiger tubes cause "they are used in nuclear things" and it's easier to get tube from Ukraine or even used from military 2C7I5
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> and you are from Russia right, Blackover ?
[20:18] <Blackover> =CK
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[20:18] <Blackover> yes
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> btw some guy on here claimed to be Russian and said that currently, private HABs are not allowed there
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> that was a few weeks ago
[20:19] <Blackover> 2C7I5 = depot
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:19] <Blackover> i'am who said that
[20:20] <Lunar_Lander> oh sorry
[20:20] <Blackover> at least u are broke air law
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> that sounds dangerous
[20:21] <Blackover> fine breaking terms of use air space ~$200
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> ohh!
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> did you have to pay?
[20:22] <Blackover> but there is noone on position to control that
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[20:23] <Blackover> unless, for example, it landed on military zone
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> ah I see
[20:25] <Blackover> after my (first in Russia) launch there was two
[20:25] <Blackover> oh three
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[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[20:27] <Blackover> two in honour of 50th first man in Space
[20:27] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:27] <Blackover> can bring u links
[20:28] <Blackover> but they are written in Russian
[20:28] <Lunar_Lander> no problem :)
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[20:32] <Blackover> one in native social network (full clone and plagiarism of Facebook) http://vk.com/mahiko_space
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> thanks!
[20:33] <Blackover> another in lj http://netwind.livejournal.com/49653.html
[20:33] <Blackover> and another on local forum http://www2.amit.ru/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=1&topic=65804&page=18
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander> cool! thanks
[20:35] <Blackover> they are quiet simple, even without telemetry and radiomodules
[20:35] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again!
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[20:59] <Blackover> have to sleep. Bye!
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[21:03] <Blackover> I'm back! Lunar_Lander are in Project Stratosphere?
[21:05] <Blackover> It's really interesting. I will contact you throw email, but now I'm going to sleep
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[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> thanks Blackover
[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[21:24] <MrCraig> hi all
[21:25] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[21:27] <MrCraig> :-)
[21:28] <fsphil> yo yo
[21:29] <MrCraig> I missed #highaltitude recently
[21:31] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I can imagine
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[21:33] <MrCraig> It's an addiction :) Lots of tech issues here now, car so badly broken it's gone to scrap, laptop died, and transfer of websites from a windows server to linux hosting is going badly. :-/
[21:33] <MrCraig> still - I need something to keep me enteretained on yet another long weekend :)
[21:34] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:34] <fsphil> balloons!
[21:34] <fsphil> always fun :)
[21:35] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[21:35] <Lunar_Lander> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9694
[21:37] <MrCraig> I'm sad fsphil because I wanted to do another flight soon - particularly as I'm confident of better shots with adjusted camera settings - but with no chase car :-( no can do.
[21:38] <fsphil> yea know the feeling
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[21:49] <fsphil> ack, missed the iss again
[21:49] <fsphil> I need an alarm :)
[21:50] <MrCraig> you're a habber, make an alarm
[21:51] <fsphil> mmm
[21:51] <fsphil> there's a thought
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[21:52] <MrCraig> actually I made a kit form one bought from maplins as solder practice a while back - it was just a count down timer on which you could set the value to count down from - but I think with a pretty box it'll make a pretty one off event alarm
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[21:53] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[21:54] <MrCraig> I'm glad you think so Lunar_Lander lol - actually I thought of using it's components to clone the clock from lost (I made a scripted one of those in second life once)
[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:58] <MrCraig> well - at least the blog is back up, even if it's not entirely functioning 100% yet - that's a successful evening in my book and deserves a smoke break - brb :)
[22:01] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:01] <Lunar_Lander> and I think about getting The Sims II
[22:01] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[22:02] <fsphil> I got the Tron DVD earlier :)
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> but I fear
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> if I buy Sims II it will be like Sims I
[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> I used to play it like 5 hours or more per day!
[22:03] <MrCraig> Did you watch tron yet fsphil?
[22:03] <fsphil> not yet, gonna watching it tomorrow night
[22:04] <MrCraig> kk then I'll not give any spoilers :)
[22:04] <fsphil> they get sucked into a computer world!
[22:04] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:05] <Laurenceb> http://code.google.com/p/ldd6410-2-6-28/source/browse/trunk/linux-2.6.28-samsung/include/linux/i2c/lsm303dlh.h?r=23
[22:05] <Laurenceb> nice
[22:05] <MrCraig> nooo you're thinking of the matrix
[22:06] <fsphil> they're pretty similar now that I think about it
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[22:23] <Lunar_Lander> OK good night :)
[22:23] <MrCraig> Good night LL
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[22:32] <hibby> can someone with the knowledges inform me what the relevance of the duty cycle limit on the license exempt short range devices for "our" frequencies is?
[22:36] <fsphil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiHuiDD_oTk
[22:36] <fsphil> depends on the frequency
[22:36] <fsphil> 869mhz is 10% duty (or 6 minutes transmit time each hour)
[22:36] <fsphil> others are 1%
[22:37] <fsphil> and some are 100%
[22:37] <hibby> aha, right.
[22:37] <fsphil> 10% wouldn't be too bad for the typical tracking case
[22:37] <fsphil> but pretty useless for big data things like images
[22:37] <hibby> so, say for 433.05-434.79 from a balloon, at 10mW e.r.p, we're only supposed to TX for 6 mins in an hour
[22:38] <fsphil> the normal ntx2 frequencies are not limited by duty, so should be 100%
[22:38] <hibby> ah, cool.
[22:38] <hibby> even if it suggests that "Analogue audio
[22:38] <hibby> applications other
[22:38] <hibby> than voice /
[22:38] <hibby> speech are
[22:38] <hibby> excluded.
[22:38] <hibby> I take it that RTTY isn't counted as an analogue audio application?
[22:39] <fsphil> nope
[22:39] <fsphil> def. digital
[22:39] <hibby> tasty.
[22:39] <hibby> as such, it can be ignored from this report ;)
[22:39] <fsphil> indeed :)
[22:40] <fsphil> I'm not sure why they list the 10% duty one with the same frequency limit
[22:40] <MrCraig> That was simply the best explanation of the voting system I've seen, thanks fsphil, and I really would vote cringer (battle cat's timid alter ego)
[22:41] <fsphil> I'd vote Snarf!
[22:41] <hibby> video++
[22:41] <MrCraig> don't tell me cos snarf is ringing some ancient bell - was it blue?
[22:41] <MrCraig> I keep confusing it with charlie of charlie sais.
[22:42] <fsphil> PBH is launching shortly
[22:42] <MrCraig> oh it was thundercatz
[22:42] <fsphil> lol
[22:42] <fsphil> they're making a new series of it -- it looks a bit, weird
[22:44] <Laurenceb> www.ic-fortune.com%2Fupload%2FDownload%2FDW01-P_DataSheet_V10.pdf
[22:44] <MrCraig> lol so long as it gives me an excuse to wear my t-shirt I'm happy
[22:44] <Darkside> ooooh
[22:44] <Laurenceb> ^sexy - thats the ic in sparkfun lipo cells
[22:45] <Darkside> 1.2GHz AV transmitters have arrived
[22:45] <Laurenceb> under, overcharge and short protection
[22:45] <fsphil> lol
[22:45] <Darkside> for live ATV video from balloons
[22:45] <fsphil> aaah live video
[22:45] <Darkside> they are 1W transmitter
[22:45] <fsphil> beats my 1 picture every 5 minutes ;-)
[22:45] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: err...
[22:45] <Darkside> and they operate on the same frequency as the local 23cm voice repeater
[22:45] <SpeedEvil> %2F is "."
[22:45] <Darkside> but you know whats really funny?
[22:46] <Laurenceb> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ic-fortune.com%2Fupload%2FDownload%2FDW01-P_DataSheet_V10.pdf&rct=j&q=DW01&ei=Vuy5TZrSEpKIhQfQw9CbCw&usg=AFQjCNFOZMvPR0tDgATUK4OldByYAXRK-Q&cad=rja
[22:46] <Darkside> the club we operate under owns the 23cm repeater
[22:46] <Darkside> *click*
[22:46] <Laurenceb> stupid google
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> So that's .com.upload
[22:46] <fsphil> hate google's long urls in the search results
[22:47] <Laurenceb> explains why everything seemed dead when i had solder under the power connector
[22:47] <Laurenceb> short circuit protection kicked in
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: That is sucky!
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> Ipd 0.1A
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> :)
[22:47] <Laurenceb> heh
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> I suspect that's a typo
[22:47] <Laurenceb> im guessing their font screwed up
[22:48] <Laurenceb> uA or something
[22:48] Action: SpeedEvil hits up ebay for more solar bits.
[22:48] <SpeedEvil> Spare central heating boiler heat exchanger.
[22:48] <SpeedEvil> As a start.
[22:48] <Laurenceb> hows the panel working?
[22:49] <SpeedEvil> Today I got about 8-10KWh out
[22:49] <Laurenceb> not at all bad
[22:49] <Laurenceb> sunny?
[22:49] <SpeedEvil> About as I wasn't measuring the flow that carefully
[22:49] <SpeedEvil> pretty sunny, yes
[22:49] <SpeedEvil> And the flow at one point was 0.
[22:49] <SpeedEvil> Steam came out when I turned the water back on.
[22:49] <Laurenceb> wow
[22:50] <Laurenceb> does it just have what 22mm connectors?
[22:50] <SpeedEvil> Yeah - the 'ends' are a 22mm pipe
[22:50] <SpeedEvil> with a standard compression fitting
[22:50] <Laurenceb> neat
[22:50] Action: Laurenceb > zzzz
[22:50] <Laurenceb> cya
[22:50] <SpeedEvil> Which I have about 3 adaptors plugged into in series, ending in HoxeLock
[22:50] <SpeedEvil> WAve
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[23:14] <jcoxon> evening all
[23:15] <hibby> evening there
[23:15] <jcoxon> pbh launch very soon
[23:16] <hibby> cool
[23:16] <hibby> im writing up my relevant reports
[23:16] <hibby> typical academia - late at night, updating the logbook now
[23:18] <Zuph> hah
[23:18] <Zuph> jcoxon: Staying up late for it?
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[23:20] <jcoxon> Zuph, nope
[23:20] <jcoxon> just off to bed
[23:20] <jcoxon> got to drive far
[23:20] <jcoxon> and its the royal wedding tomorrow
[23:20] <jcoxon> very important event
[23:21] <fsphil> got your invitation then? :)
[23:21] <jcoxon> hehe
[23:21] <jcoxon> but of course
[23:22] Action: hibby hasn't checked the post in a while, actually.
[23:22] <jcoxon> to the television event
[23:22] Action: fsphil will be on a hill trying to setup an inverted v :)
[23:23] <jcoxon> night all
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[23:33] <MrCraig> night all
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[23:34] <hibby> it's hip to be square
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[23:51] <griffonbot> @W0OTM: Made final adjustments to the iHAB-4 payload today. Tomorrow will be final systems tests and go/nogo decision. #arhab #hamradio [http://twitter.com/W0OTM/status/63752109962706944]
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[23:55] <AL0I_Todd> Hi, Dan
[23:55] <Dan-K2VOL> hey there todd
[23:55] <Dan-K2VOL> ready for PBH
[23:56] <AL0I_Todd> Yep
[23:56] <Dan-K2VOL> filling envelope already!
[23:58] <SpeedEvil> :)
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