highaltitude.log.20110323

[00:00] <fsphil> have you thought of using bubble-wrap Lunar_Lander?
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[00:00] <fsphil> WB8ELK seems to be having good luck with it
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[00:01] <Lunar_Lander> I just worked out the density of my box
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[00:01] <Lunar_Lander> now I am trying to find out what gains I get by cutting the inner chamber bigger by x cm
[00:02] <Lunar_Lander> bubble-wrap for the electronics?
[00:02] <fsphil> for the entire payload -- though yea that won't work for the camera
[00:03] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[00:04] <Lunar_Lander> yeah that wouldn't work, you're right
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[00:13] <MrCraig> Right - I think it's time to go sleep
[00:13] <fsphil> you are asleep. this is a really strange dream
[00:15] <fsphil> must head too
[00:15] <fsphil> g'night all!
[00:15] <MrCraig> huh if this is my dream I should be able to control it. *concentrates hard* nope, sill broke and alone and have no recreational substances :-P I think I'll go wake up.
[00:15] <MrCraig> night fsphil
[00:15] <MrCraig> thanks for your help again.
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[00:20] <SpeedEvil> http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/5551129801/ Anyone know their amphibians?
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[00:37] <NigelMoby> Speedevil it looks like a toad...?
[00:38] <SpeedEvil> Yeah - I'm wondering what sort of toad - it looks more orange than I thought toads should be
[00:39] <NigelMoby> Hmm it does ... don't think it'd be poisonous though
[00:40] <SpeedEvil> Dunno.
[00:40] <griffonbot> @steamfire: @lvl1whitestar is getting ready to release the balloon into the Jet Stream Thursday night! here's hoping for great balloon weather #arhab [http://twitter.com/steamfire/status/50356325179342848]
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[01:34] <Lunar_Lander> people
[01:34] <Lunar_Lander> styrofoam is unforgiving#
[01:34] <SpeedEvil> ?
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[01:35] <Lunar_Lander> I fought that box for 90 minutes
[01:35] <Lunar_Lander> now the walls are only 4 cm thick
[01:35] <Lunar_Lander> and the whole works now weighs 650 instead of 730 g
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[01:38] <SpeedEvil> Is this dense popcorn?
[01:38] <SpeedEvil> err
[01:38] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[01:38] <SpeedEvil> polystyrene
[01:38] Action: SpeedEvil is hungry.
[01:38] <Lunar_Lander> it is
[01:38] <Lunar_Lander> me too
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[01:45] <griffonbot> @steamfire: Workin HARD on CommController code to make balloon comms work better for #Whitestarballoon @LVL1WhiteStar #arhab [http://twitter.com/steamfire/status/50372509756960768]
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[02:04] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[03:26] <Zuph> Well, we are now only pumping 1W into the air.
[03:34] <griffonbot> @LVL1WhiteStar: Hf tx dipole with newly added dummy load! Thanks Carl WA4ADG for the idea, worked great #arhab http://t.co/HdGzSvQ [http://twitter.com/LVL1WhiteStar/status/50400012106076160]
[03:35] <Zuph> ping natrium42
[03:38] <natrium42> yo Zuph
[03:38] <Zuph> Quick question, mostly want some insight. Don't mean to keep constantly bothering you about spacenear.
[03:39] <Zuph> From here, it looks like the altitude chart time is 2 hours off real time, for some reason.
[03:39] <Zuph> see track.whitestar
[03:40] <Zuph> The time listed in the samples appears correct (UTC)
[03:43] <natrium42> what about time in the db?
[03:45] <natrium42> hmm, it appears correct in the graph on spacenear.us
[03:46] <natrium42> check what's going on in your db
[03:46] <natrium42> i think graph uses server time field of the table
[03:50] <natrium42> bbl
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[04:22] <SamSilver> G'day
[04:24] <SamSilver> afk
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[05:10] <SamSilver> later
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[07:22] <jcoxon> morning all
[07:22] <natrium42> hi jcoxon
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[07:27] <jcoxon> hey natrium42
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[07:28] Action: jcoxon got a delivery of parts yesteday
[07:28] <jcoxon> including some slightly over sized switches :-p
[07:28] <jcoxon> though they'll make an awesome control panel
[07:29] <natrium42> you should have a control panel like in 50ies science fiction movies
[07:29] <jcoxon> yeah i've got a few dials
[07:29] <natrium42> :D
[07:29] <jcoxon> the only issue is actually what would it do!
[07:30] <jcoxon> i had a fun idea of making it a 'mount for my ft790r
[07:30] <jcoxon> so like a car CD player you slide in the FT790r
[07:30] <jcoxon> then it becomes an automated radio station
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[08:01] <natrium42> nite jcoxon
[08:01] <natrium42> (night shift --> day shift)
[08:01] <natrium42> :D
[08:02] <jcoxon> natrium42, night
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[11:06] <jgrahamc> Howdy folks.
[11:07] <fsphil> yo yo
[11:09] <jgrahamc> Wish that flippin wind would die down a bit. Don't want to send my gear into the North Sea :-)
[11:11] <fsphil> no, that's not ideal :)
[11:12] <fsphil> unless you've a boat
[11:12] <fsphil> where are you launching from?
[11:14] <jgrahamc> Chruchill
[11:18] <GW8RAK> How things have changed, "The machine had an instruction cycle of 140 milliseconds, the time it required for an addition. Multiplication took three cycles, or 420 milliseconds, with division requiring double that time"
[11:18] <GW8RAK> The computer on the Gemini spacecraft.
[11:19] <SpeedEvil> :)
[11:19] <SpeedEvil> That seems unlikely
[11:20] <SpeedEvil> Are you sure those cycle times are not microseconds?
[11:20] <SpeedEvil> yeah - they seem to be.
[11:21] <jgrahamc> They must be microseconds. The AGC was running at 2Mhz.
[11:21] <GW8RAK> The figures come from NASA
[11:21] <SpeedEvil> They are microseconds
[11:21] <SpeedEvil> NASA has many idiots.
[11:21] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/Gemini.html
[11:21] <SpeedEvil> 140ms is just not plausible for a valve computer
[11:21] <SpeedEvil> Maybe relays.
[11:21] <SpeedEvil> But even for bit-serial, that's too slow for valves.
[11:22] <GW8RAK> Was solid state. The ariithmetic bit rate was 500Kc/s,and the memory cycle rate half that.
[11:22] <SpeedEvil> Right - now how many memory cycle bits would that make in 140ms
[11:24] <SpeedEvil> The above contains opcode references, and gives 140us as time.
[11:24] <GW8RAK> Well I'm amazed. It's not like NASA to get their units wrong is it?
[11:25] <SpeedEvil> For public facing stuff, yes.
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[12:22] <russss> we launched http://gemini3.spacelog.org incidentally
[12:24] <russss> hm, the Gemini IMU had four gimbals, I wonder why they went back to 3 for Apollo
[12:25] <SpeedEvil> IIRC you don't need 4 gimbals if you avoid one attitude.
[12:25] <russss> yeah
[12:25] <russss> but they had problems in Apollo with gimbal lock
[12:26] <SpeedEvil> But of course you won't have problems if you follow the manual.
[12:26] <russss> http://apollo11.spacelog.org/04:09:00:30/#log-line-378030
[12:26] <SpeedEvil> It's easy to write in 'minor' operational restrictions especially if they save a kilo or two
[12:26] <russss> I guess so
[12:35] <SAIDias> gm
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[12:36] <fsphil> ga W0OTM
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[13:05] <NigelMoby> Afternoon peeps
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[13:45] <natrium42> hi Dan-K2VOL
[13:45] <Dan-K2VOL> hey alexei
[13:46] <natrium42> sup?
[13:47] <natrium42> launch still on for thursday?
[13:47] <Dan-K2VOL> oh workday here,
[13:47] <Dan-K2VOL> good Q, let me check
[13:47] <natrium42> i am in ioad2 line...
[13:48] <NigelMoby> Hey Dan, natrium
[13:48] <natrium42> *ipad
[13:48] <NigelMoby> Long q?
[13:49] <natrium42> about 15 in front
[13:49] <NigelMoby> Oo not to bad
[13:49] <natrium42> ircing from ipad1 :p
[13:50] <NigelMoby> Lol
[13:50] <NigelMoby> Fsphil ping pong
[13:50] <natrium42> irssi via ssh
[13:51] <NigelMoby> Heh irssi rox
[13:51] <natrium42> indeed
[13:53] <NigelMoby> I think I've managed to come up with a new theory of what's at the heart of a blackhole :/
[13:55] <juxta> an ipad
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[13:55] <NigelMoby> Lol Juxta
[13:56] <NigelMoby> If my sums are correct... it could be quark degenerate matter
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[14:06] <NigelMoby> Hey zuph
[14:09] <GroupO> Hibby: ping
[14:11] <fsphil> pong pong NigelMoby
[14:11] <NigelMoby> Hey Phil
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[14:13] <fsphil> Wouldn't it be weird if black holes turned out to be hollow
[14:14] <NigelMoby> Lol indeed
[14:21] <fsphil> it's not impossible .. though very unlikely
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[14:24] <NigelMoby> Either way its not a singularity
[14:25] <fsphil> indeed
[14:26] <fsphil> which would make a lot of people happy
[14:26] Action: SpeedEvil wants antimatter, when finally measured, to fall up.
[14:26] <fsphil> yea!
[14:30] <fsphil> it won't, but it would be neat if it did :)
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[14:41] Action: spacefelix causes a singularity and floats upon it.
[14:43] Action: Elwell twiddles a few settings and zaps spacefelix with some hawking radiation
[14:44] Action: spacefelix is not worried about the slump in the singularity market.
[14:53] <spacefelix> NASA Can Crusher! https://sspweb.jsc.nasa.gov/webdata/mss/SSP_CR/052550PP.pdf
[14:54] <SpeedEvil> You do not have permission to view this directory or page
[14:54] <SpeedEvil> from the Internet address of your Web browser.
[14:54] <SpeedEvil> If you have a US Government requirement to access this site,
[14:54] <SpeedEvil> follow the instructions below.
[14:55] Action: SpeedEvil wonders if he needs to change nick to SpaceEvil to get round the block.
[14:56] <spacefelix> Whoops;
[14:56] <spacefelix> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nasa-msfc
[15:00] Action: SpeedEvil stabs ustream.
[15:00] <SpeedEvil> I want a 'low def' stream
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[15:03] <fsphil> or a better isp?
[15:03] <SpeedEvil> That too.
[15:03] <SpeedEvil> I've switched onto my low-quota high-speed account for the momenrt.
[15:03] Action: spacefelix gives fsphil a smaller 'nozzle throat diam'. >D
[15:03] <SpeedEvil> I'm trying to work out how to sort it out.
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[15:04] Action: spacefelix snaps latex glove for modification while grinning evilly.
[15:05] <fsphil> eek!
[15:07] <spacefelix> ISP upgrade underway! >D
[15:09] <fsphil> leave the Iowa State Police out of this :p
[15:09] <fsphil> we seem to be experiencing one of our 4 days of summer today. it's really nice outside
[15:10] <SpeedEvil> Its sunny here too.
[15:10] Action: SpeedEvil is screwing with tarps again.
[15:10] <GroupO> hey guys, quick question for any guys in the uk - using pay as you go dongle for tracking a balloon - epensive?
[15:10] <GroupO> *expensive
[15:10] <SpeedEvil> You mean SPOT?
[15:10] <fsphil> in the chase car or on the payload itself?
[15:10] <GroupO> chase car
[15:10] <SpeedEvil> Ah
[15:11] <fsphil> not expensive
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> t-mobile offer a 6 month web on PAYG SIMs with a fair usage of a gig a month.
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> For 20 quid
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> also they cap at 1 quid a day
[15:11] <fsphil> O2 will give you a day / 200Mb for £2
[15:11] <fsphil> you won't use anywhere near 200Mb
[15:12] <GroupO> kl, any ideas of the kinda data usage for like 2 hours?
[15:13] <GroupO> of tracking - oh and its a vodafone dongle we got a hold of
[15:13] <fsphil> the google map will be the biggest hog, on the tracking page
[15:14] <GroupO> rite ok, we are just trying to get an idea hof how much cash to put on a pay as you go sim card
[15:14] <GroupO> noone wants to commit theirdebit card to it ...
[15:15] <fsphil> haha, not surprised
[15:15] <fsphil> last time I did it, I didn't use any more than 200mb -- that's all I know
[15:15] <GroupO> ok kl
[15:16] <fsphil> if you have a way of measuring bandwidth, play about with google maps a bit. it might give you a better idea
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[15:19] <fsphil> was kind of neat driving through the countryside, on irc and tracking a balloon falling out of the sky :)
[15:28] <fsphil> ooh, can be difficult reading the laptop screen in the car -- some kind of sun shield would be handy
[15:31] <fsphil> is the launch still on for tomorrow?
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[15:35] <SamSilver> g'day
[15:39] <fsphil> hihihi
[15:39] <natrium42> hihi
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[15:52] <SpeedEvil> Showing friction stir welding
[15:55] <SamSilver> Who Tigga?
[15:57] <spacefelix> SpeedEvil: Friction Stir? WHERE?
[15:57] <spacefelix> SpeedEvil: TELLS MEEEE!! :DDDD
[15:58] <SpeedEvil> The ustream
[15:58] <SpeedEvil> It was only brief.
[15:58] <spacefelix> :C
[15:58] <spacefelix> FSW is cooooooooooooooooooooool.
[15:58] <SpeedEvil> Warm, anyway
[15:59] <spacefelix> LOL.
[16:01] <SpeedEvil> Force!
[16:05] <spacefelix> Mass and Acceleration!
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> I'm kinda tempted to ask 'why don't you just ask space-x for their data on FSW Al-Li tank buckling
[16:07] <Zuph> This balloon may yet kill me.
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> Don't stick head inside balloon.
[16:09] <Zuph> Want to hang noose from balloon.
[16:09] <NigeyS> noooooo zuph!
[16:09] <Zuph> hah
[16:10] <NigeyS> might damage the balloon
[16:10] <Zuph> We've got 4 more
[16:10] <NigeyS> lol
[16:11] <SamSilver> if you hang your self from all 5 please put a tracker in your pocket so we can all follow you!!
[16:11] <SamSilver> :p
[16:11] <Zuph> Heh, at a mere 18 lbs of lift per balloon, 5 won't go too far.
[16:12] <SamSilver> you have 5 x ZP balloons?
[16:12] <Zuph> Yes, although we've pretty well destroyed one in testing.
[16:13] <SamSilver> please do tell how much per balloon and from whom.
[16:14] Action: SpeedEvil wonders what the weight of the test article is.
[16:14] <fsphil> oooh just seen the email on the gpsl list -- all good to go then?
[16:15] <Zuph> $300 from Mark Caviezel at Global Western.
[16:16] <SpeedEvil> 1200 microsrtrains is 99.88% of original size?
[16:16] <Zuph> Our balloons are 2 mil polyethylene, designed to float at 250 mb.
[16:16] <Zuph> We honestly aren't too happy with the quality.
[16:16] <SpeedEvil> :/
[16:17] <natrium42> SamSilver: i have some spare caviezel balloons
[16:17] <Zuph> The seams are hasty, they built to our spec (at first), and the "fix" applied is even hastier. The load ring is flimsy, and the vent tube is stiff and unlikely to seal air out.
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[16:17] <Zuph> *they weren't built
[16:17] <Lunar_Lander> afternoon
[16:18] <fsphil> ello Lunar_Lander
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> my box now weighs 650 g
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> opinions?
[16:18] <SamSilver> hi lunar
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> hi SamSilver
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> Lunar_Lander: Weight should be prime.
[16:18] <fsphil> new box?
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[16:19] <fsphil> how heavy are your payload parts?
[16:19] <Lunar_Lander> labwasteltd threw out much stuff unfortunately
[16:19] <Lunar_Lander> they now only offer syringes and stuff
[16:19] <Lunar_Lander> well, I am planning to have a 500 g slot for "guest experiments"
[16:19] <Lunar_Lander> other than that, there will be an Arduino Uno, a Mega, sensors, batteries
[16:19] <SamSilver> I found this http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=friction+stir+welding
[16:20] <Lunar_Lander> I don't have all parts yet
[16:20] <Lunar_Lander> so I can't give a full mass budget yet
[16:20] <spacefelix> Lunar_Lander: OOoo, are you still planning to land in Libya?
[16:20] <Lunar_Lander> no, don't worry
[16:20] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[16:20] <spacefelix> Awww.
[16:20] <spacefelix> 500 g is enough space to send Mr. G a 'gift'/'message'.
[16:21] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:21] <Lunar_Lander> you're lucky that colin isn't here
[16:21] <Lunar_Lander> I once joked about launching a balloon in N.Mex. to land on the Brazel ranch and make a new debris field as in 1947
[16:21] <Lunar_Lander> next second a query popped up where he asked me not to endanger the HAB hobby by stunts
[16:22] <Zuph> Hey, no fair. *We're* going to be the first amateur balloon to launch an International incident.
[16:22] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[16:22] <Zuph> First amateur balloon across the Atlantic, New Amateur Distance record, First amateur balloon to be removed from the sky by a patriot missile, First amateur balloon to launch an international incident, First amateur balloon group to be tried before an International Court: White Star.
[16:23] <Lunar_Lander> interesting SamSilver
[16:23] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[16:23] <Lunar_Lander> Zuph yeah and it will force PBH to launch across the atlantic as well if they want to have the distance record
[16:23] <SamSilver> I have seen some sonic welded stuff
[16:23] <Lunar_Lander> xD from the missile part on it seems funny
[16:23] <SamSilver> very impresive - plastic to metal
[16:23] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:24] <Zuph> On the bright side, free trip to The Hague.
[16:24] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:24] <Lunar_Lander> you can maybe meet Tim there xD
[16:25] <Lunar_Lander> of the Hohoho team
[16:25] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil do you maybe know another PS box source?
[16:26] <Lunar_Lander> and SamSilver last time you mentioned, your interest is in measuring the magnetic flux
[16:26] <Lunar_Lander> that is interesting
[16:26] <Lunar_Lander> do you have experience in that?
[16:28] <fsphil> I wish I did Lunar_Lander, I'm running out of the stuff I have here
[16:28] <SamSilver> nope , none at all, just find it realy interesting how it changes from place to place
[16:28] <Laurenceb_> lmao samsilver
[16:29] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[16:29] <spacefelix> Zuph: Hey, if the miltary can identify everything as a weather balloon, then they ought to recognize the White Star balloon as just another harmless gas bag, yes? http://people.tribe.net/hero-dotus/photos/c62c83e4-fdbe-49fa-95e5-000f5861e862
[16:30] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil I just found a forrum about fish
[16:30] <Lunar_Lander> someone says "Ask at a pharmacy, a lab or a hospital"
[16:30] <SamSilver> magnetic declanation
[16:31] <fsphil> the polystyrene I have is very light -- not sure if it's waterproof though
[16:31] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[16:31] <fsphil> but an excellent insulator
[16:31] <fsphil> the temperature in the last payload actually increased
[16:31] <Lunar_Lander> I had the idea that my big box now could be used as a simulator
[16:31] <Lunar_Lander> you know what I mean?
[16:31] <fsphil> yea
[16:31] <Lunar_Lander> to check which cable setup and so on is best for the small box
[16:34] <jonsowman> GroupO: hi there
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[16:39] <GroupO> jonsowman: hi
[16:39] <Laurenceb_> has whitestar launched yet?
[16:39] <GroupO> I spoke to jcoxon yday about getting my telemetry sent over so that it can be set up
[16:39] <GroupO> do you deal with spacenear.us also?
[16:40] <Lunar_Lander> bbl
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[16:42] <jonsowman> okay
[16:42] <jonsowman> yes I can indeed
[16:42] <GroupO> excellent! :)
[16:43] <jonsowman> I need a couple of sample telemetry strings
[16:43] <GroupO> can i send you the string just now?
[16:43] <jonsowman> yup just paste one or two here
[16:43] <GroupO> $$STRATHAB1,49,19:09:46,55.8618507,-4.2468199,29*A555
[16:43] <GroupO> thats what were are puttin gout
[16:43] <GroupO> $$CALL,Counter,Time,Lat,Lon,Alt*Checksum
[16:43] <jonsowman> okay
[16:43] <jonsowman> great
[16:43] <GroupO> thats our string contruct
[16:43] <fsphil> I must remember to setup my radio tonight
[16:44] <GroupO> :)
[16:44] <Zuph> Laurenceb_: Negative. Try again 0000z, 3/25 :)
[16:44] <jonsowman> also, i need frequency, baud, shift, bits per char, no of stop bits
[16:44] <fsphil> 2011/3/25 :p
[16:44] <fsphil> can't wait
[16:45] <GroupO> yeh, fre, hopefully 434.650mhz, altho it seemed to drift towards 434.651; 100 baud; 8 bits per char; 2 stop bits
[16:45] <Zuph> fsphil: Might still have a weather scrub :)
[16:45] <GroupO> not sure about shift...
[16:45] <NigeyS> fsphil, thats my b'day :|
[16:45] <jonsowman> nominal frequency is fine
[16:45] <jonsowman> need to know shift though
[16:45] <fsphil> woo-hoo! cake!!
[16:45] <NigeyS> yush!#
[16:45] <GroupO> emmm, the guy who is doin the electronics has a better idea of this stuff, he will be in soon
[16:45] <fsphil> Zuph, actually a weekend launch would be idea ;-)
[16:45] <Zuph> hah
[16:46] <Zuph> For us too!
[16:46] <jonsowman> GroupO: I'll set it as 425 for now, which is fairly common
[16:46] <jonsowman> but remind me to change it once you find out
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[16:47] <jonsowman> GroupO: I assume USB?
[16:47] <GroupO> jonsowman: just txt him - the shift is 600
[16:47] <GroupO> and usb ye, i think
[16:48] <jonsowman> thanks :)
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[16:49] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[16:49] <GroupO> jonsowman: yeh, usb, just checked
[16:49] <jonsowman> GroupO: ta
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[16:50] <jonsowman> GroupO: can you start the payload transmitting?
[16:51] <jcoxon> with speedball launching on thurs at 0000 i'm going to really struggle with sleep
[16:51] <jonsowman> hehe
[16:51] <jcoxon> as i have to work on friday
[16:51] <fsphil> same here jcoxon
[16:51] <jonsowman> jcoxon: can I delete some of this data on spacenear?
[16:51] <jcoxon> and i'm in cam on sat
[16:51] <jcoxon> jonsowman, sure
[16:52] <jonsowman> thanks
[16:52] <jonsowman> what you upto in cam?
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[16:52] <jonsowman> GroupO: OK, that's done for you
[16:52] <jcoxon> jonsowman, MA graduation
[16:53] <jonsowman> the XML is here for your interest: http://robertharrison.org/listen/strathab1.xml
[16:53] <jonsowman> and the string you gave me is correctly parsed
[16:53] <jonsowman> jcoxon: oh nice :)
[16:53] <jcoxon> and its teh boat race
[16:53] <jonsowman> oh yes, so it is
[16:53] <jonsowman> :)
[16:53] <GroupO> jonsowman: thanks - i do not have it in front of me just nw
[16:53] <jonsowman> okay
[16:53] <fsphil> couldn't steal us a few hulls jcoxon :)
[16:53] <GroupO> i will set it to broadcast at some point tonit
[16:53] <jonsowman> as soon as you can, get it transmitting and uploading to spacenear
[16:53] <GroupO> we are doing a bit of testing
[16:53] <jonsowman> make sure everything works
[16:54] <GroupO> jonsowman: just txt the guy again - aparently the shift is more like 70
[16:54] <GroupO> *700
[16:56] <jcoxon> GroupO, is the shift stable?
[16:56] Nick change: kd0mto -> DagoRed
[16:56] <jonsowman> dl-fldigi doesn't seem to like 600 shift
[16:57] Action: Hibby fears he may have to get a new tip for this iron
[16:57] <jcoxon> jonsowman, taken from the xml?
[16:57] <jonsowman> yes
[16:57] <jonsowman> is that a known issue?
[16:57] <jcoxon> it'll only allow you to preset the set values
[16:57] <jcoxon> not custom values
[16:58] <jonsowman> 600 is one of the presets
[16:59] <jcoxon> oh right
[16:59] <jonsowman> 425, 600, 850
[16:59] <jcoxon> nah open a issue and i'll fix it one day
[16:59] <jonsowman> okay
[16:59] <jonsowman> :)
[16:59] <Dan-K2VOL> Is anyone here who would be interested in helping with our ATC Liaison team?
[17:00] <jonsowman> GroupO: I'll have to leave the default shift set at 425
[17:00] <Hibby> oh, great, the driven elements from my portable yagi are all missing
[17:00] <Dan-K2VOL> you can get by on the reflectors hibby, just turn up the power
[17:00] <Dan-K2VOL> :-P
[17:01] <Hibby> lol...its my fault as I've been usign them as coffee stirrers
[17:01] <Hibby> 1/4 wave at 70cm is an ideal length for that
[17:01] <Dan-K2VOL> Hibby lol
[17:03] <fsphil> does caffeine improve antenna performance? :)
[17:03] <jonsowman> GroupO: you'll probably find that 425 decodes alright but you need to test, lots
[17:03] <jonsowman> also, as jcoxon said -- is the shift stable?
[17:04] <jcoxon> if it is not stable thats quite concern
[17:04] <SamSilver> cheers chaps
[17:04] <Hibby> jonsowman: stable as in, unaffected by environmental variables?
[17:04] <Dan-K2VOL> jcoxon
[17:04] <Dan-K2VOL> got the power safely up to 1W
[17:04] <GroupO> im not sure of the stability - hibby is ur man for that
[17:05] <jonsowman> Hibby: at least stable at constant temperature
[17:05] <jcoxon> Dan-K2VOL, excellent
[17:05] <Dan-K2VOL> had the dipole strung end to end in the hackerspace last night, and Bill Brown picked up partial packets without even being home!
[17:05] <Hibby> at constant it's stable, afaict
[17:05] <jonsowman> that's fine then
[17:05] <Dan-K2VOL> decoded fine from 18v down to 5.5v
[17:05] <jonsowman> you can expect the shift to change with temperature, that's normal
[17:05] <jonsowman> fldigi's modem is pretty tolerant on the whole
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[17:05] <jcoxon> Dan-K2VOL, awesome, just the top power was the issue i guess
[17:05] <jonsowman> so you should be fine
[17:06] <Zuph> I think it was a matching issue
[17:06] <fsphil> what power level was it at before?
[17:06] <Zuph> 2W
[17:06] <fsphil> ah
[17:06] <Zuph> Our antenna was originally 1.5:1, and the transmitter + power amp consumed .7-.8a @ 12v.
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[17:07] <Zuph> With the added load, it's damn near 1:1, and the transmitter + power amp is consuming .3-.4a @12v.
[17:07] <fsphil> excellent
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[17:07] <jcoxon> 1W will be perfect
[17:07] <Zuph> Not sure what Bill's power amp is doing, but it works now.
[17:08] <Zuph> Heh, wb8elk copied some of our test transmissions in Huntsville, even though we were transmitting in a brick building w/ tin ceiling in a dense urban area.
[17:08] <fsphil> I'll string up my antenna tomorrow night
[17:08] <Dan-K2VOL> I recall getting a dose of that in the temples once, I was matching a 1kw amp to a long wire antenna, and didn't realize I had the power input set to 100w and not the 1W I thought I had on.
[17:09] <Dan-K2VOL> my glasses frames started burning the sides of my head
[17:09] <fsphil> !!
[17:09] <Dan-K2VOL> as my head/glasses combo converted the RF power into heat
[17:12] <fsphil> no permanent damage at least
[17:12] <Zuph> heh, I don't know about that...
[17:13] <Dan-K2VOL> :-P
[17:13] <Dan-K2VOL> That's when I stopped fiddling with other people's amps.
[17:16] <fsphil> home time.. woo-hoo!
[17:23] <Hibby> GroupO: do you want to jump up here - i#ve got a meeting now, so im somewhat in a hurry to get out...
[17:23] <GroupO> Hibby: enroute
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[17:37] <GroupO> jonsowman: can u give me some guidance? I have my payload outputting and the receiver is connected to my laptop
[17:38] <jonsowman> right
[17:38] <GroupO> how do i know configure to send the data to spacenear.us using fldigi
[17:38] <jonsowman> what OS?
[17:38] <jcoxon> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide#dl-fldigi_32029-r115_new_version
[17:39] <GroupO> windows 7
[17:40] <jonsowman> that guide you tell you all you need :) ^^
[17:41] <GroupO> ok - how do u come up with a callsign?
[17:41] <jcoxon> callsign or nick
[17:41] <jcoxon> doesn't matter
[17:41] <jcoxon> Strat-Base
[17:41] <GroupO> il just be unoriginal and use my group name....GroupO ha!
[17:42] <jcoxon> yeah that works
[17:42] <jonsowman> that's fine
[17:46] <GroupO> im clicking "flight" but it wont let me select anything
[17:46] <GroupO> like it wont drop down
[17:47] <jcoxon> you connected to the net?
[17:47] <GroupO> yeh
[17:47] <jonsowman> hmm
[17:47] <GroupO> im on the uni network - not sure if its a proxy or firewall issue
[17:47] <jcoxon> go to DL-Client
[17:47] <jcoxon> and click refresh payload data
[17:47] <GroupO> tried that
[17:48] <jcoxon> dl-client -> configure
[17:48] <GroupO> ok
[17:48] <jcoxon> payload tab
[17:48] <jcoxon> redownload data
[17:48] <jcoxon> now does the drop down box below that work?
[17:48] <GroupO> nope
[17:48] <GroupO> :S
[17:49] <jcoxon> for some reason dl-fidigi hasn't been able to get a list of payload xmls from the server
[17:49] <GroupO> hmmm
[17:49] <GroupO> any other solutions u can think of?
[17:49] <jcoxon> also you haven't been able to upload your station data to the server
[17:50] <jcoxon> could be a firewall issue i guess
[17:50] <jcoxon> though we use port 80
[17:50] <GroupO> hmmm, i should try this stuff at home and see what happens
[17:50] <jcoxon> okay here is a work around though
[17:50] <jcoxon> you could grab the xml file
[17:51] <jcoxon> http://www.robertharrison.org/listen/strathab1.xml
[17:51] <jcoxon> and put it in the dl-fldigi config file
[17:51] <jcoxon> c:\\Users\your_login\dl-fldigi.files
[17:51] <jcoxon> i think
[17:52] <jcoxon> actually that might not work
[17:52] <jcoxon> i think its best that you get a connection
[17:52] <GroupO> yeh
[17:53] <GroupO> i will take my laptop home try it there/
[17:53] <GroupO> fingers crossed...
[17:53] <jcoxon> dl-client - is the online box ticked?
[17:54] <GroupO> where is that box located?
[17:54] <jcoxon> in the dl-client menu
[17:54] <GroupO> in "enable" tab?
[17:54] <GroupO> yeh the server is robertharrison.org/listen
[17:54] <jcoxon> yeah or the main window
[17:54] <jcoxon> go back to the main window
[17:55] <jcoxon> when you click the refresh payload data does the bottom status bar show anything?
[17:59] <GroupO> says its dling
[17:59] <GroupO> then dl failed
[17:59] <jcoxon> so its an internet connection
[17:59] <jcoxon> is windows 7 allowing it access through its inbuilt firewall?
[18:00] <GroupO> im having a look
[18:04] <GroupO> its still not letting me dl the payloads, even tho i have given it exception through the firewall
[18:04] <jcoxon> weird
[18:04] <jcoxon> never had this issue before
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[18:06] <MNSP> Hello all :)
[18:10] <GroupO> il need to try this at home
[18:11] <GroupO> rite, bbl
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[18:21] <Guest23020> hey guts
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[18:22] <jonsowman> hi
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[18:23] <MNSP> hey cuys
[18:23] <MNSP> *guys
[18:23] <jonsowman> evening MNSP
[18:23] <MNSP> evenin' :)
[18:24] <MNSP> has anyone tried/used multi stage deployment of recovery system?
[18:24] <MNSP> ie more than one parachute?
[18:25] <fsphil> jcoxon, could groupo have used the old version of dl-fldigi? the server address might not be correct
[18:27] <jcoxon> maybe
[18:27] <jcoxon> i doubt it though
[18:27] <jcoxon> fallen for the /listen/listen bug?
[18:27] <fsphil> it's what I'm thinking - worth checking when he gets back
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[18:40] <MrCraig> evening all
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[18:44] <MNSP> evening MrCraig :)
[18:44] <MrCraig> :-) hows things MNSP?
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[19:43] <mattltm> Ta Da!!
[19:47] <MrCraig> You sound just like Windows 95.
[19:47] <mattltm> lol.
[19:49] <MrCraig> Ok - I need ideas for a nick name to go on a stag party t-shirt. Real name Craig Chapman doesn't seem to go with anything. Answers on a postcard to /msg MrCraig.
[19:57] <mattltm> Does anyone else find listening to RTTY relaxing?
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[19:58] <MrCraig> I can't stop hearing it - it's in engine noise, it's in washing machine noises, it's in pc cooling fan rattle, it's in cup chinks in coffee houses, it's the fire alarm tests.
[19:58] <mattltm> Ok. I thought I needed help!
[19:58] <MrCraig> if I heard pure white noise from a seti antenna I'd think I'd found aliens.
[19:59] <mattltm> lol
[19:59] <MrCraig> hmm 'TheAntenna' ?
[19:59] <MrCraig> is that a stag do name?
[20:00] <MrCraig> ugh you thought you might need help. *sigh*
[20:01] <mattltm> How about Skelton MrCraig?
[20:01] <MrCraig> not sure I get it
[20:02] <mattltm> Largest antenna mast in the uk..
[20:02] <MrCraig> aah, hmm... might work, it's subtle
[20:02] <mattltm> as is huge erecti....
[20:02] <MrCraig> lol yup as soon as you said mast I'd got the innuendo
[20:02] <mattltm> lol.
[20:03] <mattltm> I think its the tallest man made thing in the uk
[20:03] <MrCraig> interesting
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[20:08] <mattltm> Hows the build going MrCraig?
[20:10] <MrCraig> electronics done - just put the antenna though the ground plane (which is a very technical name for a chopped up piece of copper clad board I have to say) - camera is destroyed but a new one on order. Local range testing at the weekend (testing the chutes too for fun) and I'm going to log on here and see if anyone is able to hear the tx too.
[20:11] <mattltm> Cool. Where are you testing it?
[20:11] <MrCraig> some place near guildford called leaf hill? apparently there's a tower you can climb that was put there intentionally as the highest point in surrey.
[20:12] <mattltm> I may be able to get it here with the beam
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[20:12] <MrCraig> I don't know the area so a guy at work is coming along (he thinks just for the directions and probably doesn't realise he'll also be the "hold this" man)
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[20:13] <mattltm> I've got my test payload running now.
[20:13] <mattltm> Can't update my blog because I dont have access to a camera!
[20:14] <MrCraig> Perhaps a text only post?
[20:14] <mattltm> Not keen on them :(
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[20:14] <mattltm> I'll rob the other half's iPhone later :)
[20:15] <MrCraig> no, me either - but I'd rather post than not. It seems followers get used to regular posts (my blog gets hit more on a monday because I've been posting weekends)
[20:15] <MrCraig> that's the ticket
[20:18] <mattltm> Ok, so this test payload has run 8000 cycles now and is still going strong.
[20:18] <mattltm> Test over me thinks :)
[20:19] <mattltm> A bit warm but it has been running for 22 hours :)
[20:21] <mattltm> MrCraig, where did you get that strip board?
[20:22] <MrCraig> That particular piece of board I bought at a shop called TRS (Tandy Radio Shack) back in about 1989
[20:22] <mattltm> I miss Tandy :(
[20:22] <MrCraig> me too
[20:22] <MrCraig> I had a TRS-80 Color Computer 2
[20:22] <mattltm> Not seen one with tracks like that befor
[20:23] <MrCraig> I think you might find something similar if you search veroboard ?
[20:23] <MrCraig> it was handy because it carries several rails for vcc and gnd
[20:23] <mattltm> Yup.
[20:24] <MrCraig> one of those joins is showing pin - have to go back in to correct that, and I *might* try to clean up that streak too, but I don't have a solder sucker so it might be safer to just leave it alone. I don't have another board like that one.
[20:24] <jcoxon> MrCraig, where are you based?
[20:25] <MrCraig> Leatherhead (just off m25 by chessington)
[20:25] <jcoxon> oh i know
[20:27] <MrCraig> jcoxon: Do I need to ask you (or bribe?) to do configuration for me to track the payload?
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[20:27] <jcoxon> just need to give me an example string
[20:28] <MNSP> hello all :)
[20:28] <mattltm> MrCraig, I had to offer several goats and a virgin.
[20:28] <jcoxon> and explain the fields
[20:28] <Laurenceb> satanic bible?
[20:29] <Laurenceb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Bible
[20:29] <MrCraig> wb MNSP
[20:30] <jcoxon> ping jonsowman
[20:30] <MNSP> :)
[20:30] <jonsowman> pong jcoxon
[20:30] <jcoxon> fixed that shift bug
[20:30] <mattltm> Right. Got to go walk the dog...
[20:30] <MrCraig> jcoxon: ok, well I could put an example string together manually, it's just the HAB protocol as documented on the wiki with the minimum fields <long,lat,alt> a checksum and a callsign of 'ARTEMIS-1' but will provide a full string taken from the device it's self tomorrow / friday
[20:31] <jcoxon> but can't test it as some reason i can't edit your xml file
[20:31] <MrCraig> hi jon
[20:31] <jonsowman> oh great, thanks :) what was it?
[20:31] <jonsowman> hi MrCraig
[20:31] <jonsowman> jcoxon: oh sorry
[20:31] <jcoxon> MrCraig, just email me the string and i'll sort it
[20:31] <jonsowman> the permissing on the things in that folder... well.. I won't ask
[20:31] <MrCraig> thanks jcoxon
[20:31] <jonsowman> *permissions
[20:32] <jcoxon> jonsowman, they've added a new preset rtty shift
[20:32] <jcoxon> it used to be 9
[20:32] <jcoxon> and the way the xml sets that is by selecting the particular one in the dropdown list
[20:32] <jcoxon> so if you add one it gets confused
[20:32] <MrCraig> ok - I'm going to run out for food - bbs
[20:32] <jonsowman> ahh I see
[20:33] <jcoxon> ill bbl - laptop is running very slow
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[20:33] <MNSP> its not the only one confused ;)
[20:33] <jonsowman> hi MNSP, sorry I missed your privmsg earlier
[20:33] <jonsowman> Randomskk and I are responsible for ferret
[20:34] <jonsowman> MrCraig: I'll do the XML for you if you like
[20:34] <jonsowman> otherwise james will do it when he gets back -- depends how urgently you want it done :)
[20:37] <Randomskk> "responsible" is definitely the correct word :P
[20:37] <Randomskk> or maybe "to blame"
[20:37] <jonsowman> haha
[20:37] <jonsowman> Randomskk: eroomde is around for the two launches on 9th
[20:39] <Randomskk> oh good
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[20:40] <Randomskk> do you wanna borrow radio or anything?
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[20:40] <jonsowman> Randomskk: I think we should be OK thanks, we've got the two SGS ones plus I'll borrow the 817 from the lab
[20:41] <jonsowman> will let you know if we're in desperate need though, thanks
[20:41] <jonsowman> :)
[20:41] <Randomskk> cool
[20:41] <Randomskk> shame the android one won't be going up I guess
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[20:41] <Randomskk> wonder if there's time to bodge it together
[20:42] <jonsowman> maybe once we're back in cam?
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[20:55] <fsphil> oops.. that new shift might actually be mine ...
[20:56] <jonsowman> hi jcoxon
[20:56] <jcoxon> did you add a new preset shift to dl-fldigi?
[20:56] <fsphil> yea, 600 -- part of the 1200 baud stuff
[20:56] <jonsowman> ahh I wondered where it came from
[20:57] <fsphil> actually works really well
[20:57] <jcoxon> i see
[20:57] <jcoxon> well i think i've fixed that bug then
[20:57] <jcoxon> jonsowman, could you just change the xml and i'll test it before i push it to github
[20:58] <jonsowman> the strathab one?
[20:58] <jcoxon> yeah
[20:58] <jonsowman> sure
[20:59] <jonsowman> done
[20:59] <jonsowman> you should be able to modify it now btw
[21:00] <W0OTM> WOOT, i got my local number ported to my GoogleVoice number
[21:00] <jcoxon> great - works
[21:00] <jcoxon> of course that won't be rolled out until the next release
[21:00] <jcoxon> which will probably after the whitestar launch
[21:00] <jcoxon> don't want to confuse people
[21:00] <jonsowman> yeah
[21:01] <jonsowman> by the way, if you change the group owner of your xmls to "highalt" then everyone will be able to modify it
[21:01] <jonsowman> $ chgrp highalt speedball.xml
[21:01] <jcoxon> oh okay
[21:01] <jonsowman> really that folder could do with the setgid bit setting on it
[21:01] <jonsowman> I'll ask rob next time he's around
[21:02] <jcoxon> probably best
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[21:44] <GroupO> jcoxon: ping
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[21:52] <jcoxon> GroupO, hi
[21:52] <GroupO> hi jcoxon - just thought I would update you with my progress
[21:52] <GroupO> turned out it was just an issue trying to access the database through the uni server
[21:52] <GroupO> went home and the problem cleared up
[21:53] <jcoxon> okay good good
[22:03] <fsphil> you still set for an early launch GroupO?
[22:04] <GroupO> yeh, hopefully
[22:04] <GroupO> just pulling together the finishing touches
[22:04] <GroupO> i'll be updating on twitter
[22:06] <jcoxon> GroupO, whats your twitter account?
[22:10] <GroupO> jcoxon: MEGroupO
[22:12] <jcoxon> cool
[22:13] <GroupO> brb
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[22:14] <Hibby> still missing this forking element :/
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[22:20] <fsphil> from the yagi?
[22:20] <Hibby> found it... was in a mug.
[22:22] <Hibby> and it all still works
[22:23] <fsphil> lol
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[22:23] <fsphil> always a plus
[22:25] <fsphil> Hibby, is MM3ZRZ you?
[22:25] <Hibby> aye.
[22:26] <Hibby> really should sit the license++ exam, but finding time is a pain
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[22:26] <MNSP> evening all :)
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[22:27] <Hibby> been doing the software for group0 out the goodness of my heart, as he's been totally unable
[22:28] <jcoxon> hehe - he needs to learn!
[22:28] <Hibby> was what I said
[22:28] <Hibby> it's these mechanical engineering students... they just don't want to learn!
[22:33] <jcoxon> stripboard flight computer/
[22:33] <jcoxon> ?
[22:33] <Hibby> aye, if I'd had more notice I could have designed a custom PCB, but maybe the next generation
[22:34] <jcoxon> they could have one of my atlas boards if they want
[22:34] <Hibby> regardless, we'll have a library/existing software in the uni now, so it can be modified in t'future
[22:34] <Hibby> we've got reprographics downstairs
[22:34] <jcoxon> avr based?
[22:34] <Hibby> aye, used arduino as I was curious to see how it works
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[22:35] <jcoxon> did you see my guide to making an arduino payload?
[22:35] <Hibby> used to using bitbashing registers for embedded programming :)
[22:35] <Hibby> don't think so, might have spotted it at some point but not absorbed it anyway
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[22:35] <jcoxon> (its buried in a build log)
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[22:35] <jcoxon> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/projects:picoatlas:picoatlasi
[22:36] <Hibby> i remember seeing a cuspaceflight one and being impressed with the straw covered antennae
[22:36] <jcoxon> yes straws, strong but not too pointy
[22:37] <MNSP> saw this by chance earlier... http://www.beyond62.com/
[22:37] <Hibby> all looks similar to what I've ended up doing
[22:38] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[22:38] <jcoxon> Hibby, well make sure there are some links on the ukhas wiki to all your work!
[22:39] <Hibby> when I get the final version up to github I'll be sure to
[22:39] <Hibby> hopefully I'll get most of the functions into a .h and just have a file with the essentials, making it much easier to read/program
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> I made it
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> I found a new box
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> and SpeedEvil
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> it is grey styrofoam/styrodur
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> inside dimensions: 28x15x10cm (LxWxH)
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> 143 g
[22:43] <fsphil> that's a *lot* better!
[22:43] <fsphil> grey with white spots?
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> no, grey
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> almost silver
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> I'll upload a photo in a few secs
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> though the pharmacist looked at me as if I wanted plutonium or something
[22:44] <Lunar_Lander> "You guys think that we got everything"
[22:45] <fsphil> lol
[22:45] <Lunar_Lander> and when I left he said "I hope you'll become happy with it"
[22:46] <Lunar_Lander> normally the people at our pharmacy are more friendly...
[22:48] <MNSP> oh btw is anyone going to the howduino gig in leeds at weekend?
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[22:52] <fsphil> nope, but it looks interesting
[22:53] <MNSP> yeah I thought so, but it would mean booking a hotel too for me...
[22:54] <MNSP> there must be something down south, in london maybe?
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[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9238/picture104.jpg
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[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/940/picture105r.jpg
[22:57] <fsphil> that looks perfect Lunar_Lander
[22:57] <fsphil> is it the same thickness as the last box?
[22:57] <Lunar_Lander> nono, the last box had a 7 cm wall thickness
[22:58] <fsphil> there seems to be howduino events in a few places, but I don't see any near london
[22:58] <Lunar_Lander> this one has 2.5cm
[22:59] <MNSP> lol, loving the 'arduino' controller Lunar_Lander
[22:59] <SpeedEvil> Lunar_Lander: :)
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> xD yeah
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> it is a little small though
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> I mean big stuff won't fit in there
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> but I remember something
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> when I was in the bio department of the uni a few days ago, I saw a pile of styro boxes in a hallway
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> I'll look if I get someone from there tomorrow
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> or better today :P
[23:01] <Lunar_Lander> it's 1 minute into thursday
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[23:02] <fsphil> oooh, not long until speedball!
[23:02] <MNSP> yeah fsphil, its a shame. you would think with how many people are into arduino, there'd be more things going on?
[23:04] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil btw
[23:04] <Lunar_Lander> with the other box I had ideas like really "burying" stuff in the sides or the floor
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander> like a "battery basement"
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander> but well
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander> not all ideas seem to be
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[23:06] <fsphil> one of the advantages of using a block of polystyrene I suppose
[23:06] <fsphil> each section is just the right side
[23:06] <fsphil> *size
[23:06] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[23:07] <Lunar_Lander> the boxes I saw in the biology house are white and square
[23:07] <Lunar_Lander> as my big box here
[23:07] <Lunar_Lander> but they were much smaller
[23:07] <Lunar_Lander> and should thus be lighter
[23:08] <fsphil> some boxes may be denser than others
[23:08] <fsphil> I've seen some relatively heavy polystyrene used to pack printers in
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[23:09] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[23:12] <fsphil> Hibby, if possible try to send an email about the launch to the ukhas list -- there are a few potential trackers in the north of england and wales that might be able to listen out if they have some warning
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[23:22] <fsphil> 434.650 is a lot quieter than 434.075
[23:22] <Lunar_Lander> so 434.650 is better?
[23:23] <fsphil> where I live anyway :) everywhere will be different -- and some amateur repeater inputs very close to 434.650
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[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> ah
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[23:36] <Harry_KC5TRB> Any status on the White Star flight?
[23:37] <Zuph> Go/No Go review meeting at 8:30 EDT
[23:37] <Zuph> Harry_KC5TRB:
[23:37] <Harry_KC5TRB> RGR & TNX
[23:39] <Harry_KC5TRB> Has the flight time been moved? Last word I got was 1800 EDT.
[23:40] <Zuph> Targeting 0000z 3/25
[23:40] <Zuph> We were targeting a flight simulation at 1800 EDT tonight, but that got pushed.
[23:42] <Harry_KC5TRB> Guess no email updates have been sent. The last one I got today said... "White Star's SpeedBall-1 is preparing for launch on Thursday evening, 0000 UTC. "
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[23:43] <Harry_KC5TRB> So the new launch will be Fri at 0000z
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[23:49] <Zuph> Harry_KC5TRB: Mistake in the email, Friday at 0000z, which is Thursday at 2000 EDT.
[23:50] <Harry_KC5TRB> RGR, tnx for the clarification. GLuck!
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> fsphil I only hope that the sparkfun package comes soon
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> because then I think I can begin
[23:51] <fsphil> how long ago did you order?
[23:51] <Zuph> Harry_KC5TRB: The email sent from our launch announcement list (whitestarballoon.org) says: White Star's SpeedBall-1 Balloon may take off into the Jet Stream Thursday evening 3/24 around 9PM Eastern Time (0100 UTC 3/25)
[23:52] <Lunar_Lander> March 9
[23:52] <Lunar_Lander> but with USPS
[23:52] <Lunar_Lander> not fedex
[23:52] <Harry_KC5TRB> Ok, I got my mail from the GPSL list from someonenamed Dan.
[23:52] <fsphil> dan, the man with the plan
[23:53] <fsphil> shouldn't be much longer Lunar_Lander -- I can't remember who shipped mine, but it took two weeks
[23:53] <Harry_KC5TRB> Wrong plan though......HiHi!
[23:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[23:54] <Harry_KC5TRB> Anyone know if Bill WB8ELK will be streaming video?
[23:54] <fsphil> Zuph, is the meeting on mumble? can anyone sit in?
[23:55] <SpeedEvil> http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/bunaday/?_trksid=p4340.l2559
[23:55] <SpeedEvil> Another cool seller to add to the list of shiny stuff I can almost afford, and is really tempting.
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[23:56] <SpeedEvil> (engineeringplastics quite cheap)
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[23:56] <Hibby> \o/ most recent code revision works nicely... hurrah!
[23:57] <fsphil> woo-hoo!
[23:57] <fsphil> that the last major job then?
[23:57] <Hibby> looks like it
[23:58] <Hibby> update for cutdown // etc
[23:59] <Hibby> https://github.com/Hibby/Strathclyde-HAB-Project <== I'll tidy it up when the guys aren't rushing for a launch ;)
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[23:59] <Hibby> also gave me an excuse to learn github, hence the 1/2 million branches ;)
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