highaltitude.log.20110304

[00:00] <natrium42> or do it differently
[00:00] <Nigey|S> mm aerogel! :D
[00:00] <Zuph> Oh, this is when I clone to our master backend database.
[00:01] <Zuph> No way other data can get pushed to the public servers.
[00:07] <natrium42> Zuph: what sucks about the twitter feed is that it doesn't auto refresh...
[00:07] <natrium42> actually you can't even do that from js
[00:07] <Zuph> Yeah :-(
[00:07] <natrium42> as twitter locks your account if you have too many updates
[00:07] <natrium42> it's possible to do it via your own server, but i never bothered...
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[00:14] <SpeedEvil> Interesting.
[00:14] <SpeedEvil> There are people offering aerogel cavity fills.
[00:15] <SpeedEvil> building cavity
[00:15] <Randomskk> it's a pretty rad insulator
[00:19] <SpeedEvil> yes.
[00:20] <SpeedEvil> I can't find an online source of it cheaper than about a fiver a litre.
[00:20] <Randomskk> the country is full of people who'll pay a lot for insulation, I guess?
[00:20] <SpeedEvil> Maybe.
[00:21] <Randomskk> though probably also a combination of quality/grade, bulk price and economies of scale for insulation-level scales apply
[00:21] <SpeedEvil> I'd like ideally a hundred litres or so, to make some windows.
[00:21] <Randomskk> you could probably adulterate it with something else to get something that's still a pretty good insulator
[00:22] <SpeedEvil> yeah
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[00:29] <SpeedEvil> Anyone seen nanosail-d?
[00:30] <Nigey|S> nup, frikkin cloud again :(
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[00:45] <Nigey|S> nn all
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[00:50] <SpeedEvil> nn
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[00:57] <W0OTM> Hellow World
[01:03] <Darkside> hellow from australia
[01:04] <W0OTM> LOL, howdy Darkside
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[01:24] <Zuph> ping natrium42
[01:25] <natrium42> hey Zuph
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[01:25] <Zuph> If we want to run additional tests, is there anything to do to spacenear?
[01:26] <natrium42> what do you mean?
[01:26] <natrium42> you can delete points from spacenear.us/tracker/admin
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[01:58] <W0OTM> howdy
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[07:11] <jcoxon> ping natrium42
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[07:50] <earthshine> predictions look good at the moment
[07:51] <natrium42> jcoxon: check email
[07:52] <fsphil> bit iffy here - very close to a big population area: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=ca4799aaa138ec5303a7041e3ca498af50bd0871
[07:53] <jcoxon> natrium42, thanks!
[07:53] <jcoxon> have you noticed that it is able to tx through polystyrene?
[07:54] <natrium42> yes, but no idea if it influences performance
[07:55] <natrium42> actually i have flown it without that plastic cover
[07:56] <natrium42> i just screwed it on for shipping
[07:56] <natrium42> but again, who knows if performance is worse with it off or not
[07:56] <natrium42> antenna might be tuned for it
[07:57] <jcoxon> i'll stick it outside today (being the UK there is always the risk of rain
[07:58] <natrium42> hehe
[07:58] <earthshine> any launches this weekend?
[07:58] <natrium42> fsphil maybe
[07:58] <eroomde> morning all
[07:58] <fsphil> I might try anyway - sunday is a definite no :)
[07:58] <natrium42> eroomde olleh
[07:59] <earthshine> why does the predictor always seem to sstick at 90%?
[08:03] <earthshine> it's been stuck at 90% for about 10 mins now
[08:05] <juxta> i dont think it'll go anywhere then earthshine - I have a local install up, you can try that if you like
[08:06] <juxta> http://www.projecthorus.org/predict
[08:07] <earthshine> cheers
[08:08] <jcoxon> earthshine, its usually an issue with the noaa servers who provide the actual wind data
[08:09] <jcoxon> they are notoriously unreliable
[08:09] <juxta> indeed
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[08:10] <juxta> NOAA 'high availability' = down for weeks at a time
[08:10] <earthshine> i reset it and that time it worked fine
[08:11] <jcoxon> bbl
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[10:28] <russss> looks like the Taurus XL failed fairing separation again
[10:28] <russss> twice in a row :(
[10:29] <russss> that's just unlucky.
[10:36] <Laurenceb> oops
[10:43] <Dooberry> yeah just saw it on Sky News
[10:43] <SpeedEvil> Bull.
[10:44] <Dooberry> ?
[10:44] <SpeedEvil> nvm - too early for latin based puns.
[10:44] <Dooberry> heh
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[10:52] <Laurenceb> http://astrosurf.com/legault/STS-133.html
[10:53] <Laurenceb> lol hes also invented glasses free 3D
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[11:00] <vk5zsn> Darkside receiving anything?
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[11:03] <Darkside> vk5zsn: oh, havent checked yet
[11:03] <Darkside> too early i think
[11:04] <Darkside> give it another 20 min
[11:04] <vk5zsn> ok
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[11:26] <fsphil> uh-oh: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12551861
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[12:17] <Dooberry> fsphil - indeed, saw it on the news this morning.
[12:17] <Dooberry> Slightly more costly than a HAB fail.
[12:18] <fsphil> just a bit
[12:19] <fsphil> though hopefully they had insurance
[12:23] <Dooberry> so in other news, is the next Cambridge launch really not until the 09/04?
[12:23] <fsphil> seems so
[12:23] <Dooberry> bah
[12:24] <fsphil> there's usually a gap over the winter
[12:24] <fsphil> (I say that like I've been here years - only joined last year ;-)
[12:25] <Dooberry> I thought the cold weather was generally preferable to HAlting?
[12:25] <fsphil> to the balloon maybe, but it's not nice launching in sub-zero temps
[12:25] <fsphil> recovery is a pain too
[12:26] <Dooberry> aye, with less hours of sunlight. You'd need a flashing LED or something attached the payload just incase
[12:27] <fsphil> there's also been a lot of wind about this winter
[12:27] <Dooberry> Definately keen on heading down to a launch before we do our own though
[12:29] <fsphil> yea, it's definitely a lot less stressful when you know what to expect
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[12:36] <groupo> Hibby: ping
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[13:42] <NigeyS> dam glory failed :(
[13:44] <fsphil> yep, along with a couple of cubesats
[13:44] <NigeyS> dammit :(
[13:45] <NigeyS> you wouldnt think the fairing weighed enough to prevent the rocket reaching insertion velocity though :/
[13:48] <fsphil> they must have been carrying *just* enough fuel
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[13:53] <NigeyS> you think they have contingencies for that kinda thing though
[13:53] <NigeyS> you'd*
[14:01] <fsphil> suppose there logic is, no point putting it in orbit with the faring still attached
[14:03] <NigeyS> aye theres always that
[14:06] <Upu> afternoon
[14:06] <NigeyS> hey Upu
[14:06] <Upu> hey NigeyS
[14:06] <NigeyS> oh now ure here, do you have the ava.lbr file for eagle?
[14:06] <Upu> err
[14:07] Action: Upu goes and has a look
[14:07] <NigeyS> apparently to change the drill size for the sma connector you have to edit the associated lbr file, which it says is ava.lbr :|
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[14:11] <NigeyS> hey GW8RAK
[14:12] <GW8RAK> Hi NigeyS
[14:12] <NigeyS> got something for you
[14:12] <NigeyS> see pm
[14:12] <GW8RAK> Last nights Googling of chip carriers has given me some ideas.
[14:13] <GW8RAK> Okay thanks.
[14:14] <GW8RAK> Is that a pm via this or to a normal email address?
[14:14] <NigeyS> via here, it shouldve popped up
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[14:14] <GW8RAK> Ah ha. I heard a pop, but couldn't see anythihng.
[14:14] <GW8RAK> Found it now
[14:14] <NigeyS> lol
[14:15] <GW8RAK> Is that it? Disappointed :)
[14:15] <NigeyS> lol
[14:15] <GW8RAK> How do you send a pm like that?
[14:15] <NigeyS> try /msg <nick> or double click the username
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[14:15] <NigeyS> depends on the client
[14:16] <Upu> err
[14:16] <Upu> I can't find it :/
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[14:16] <NigeyS> ahh its ok upu i can try to edit it from another library
[14:16] <GW8RAK> Okay, there's a lot to learn on here.
[14:16] <Upu> Still looking
[14:16] <RedWagon> any news on the weather predictions?
[14:16] <MSP_> Hello All :
[14:16] <MSP_> :)
[14:16] <GW8RAK> Now I've sorted the GPS chip carrier, I can't find the GPS module now. :(
[14:17] <GW8RAK> It's here somewhere.
[14:17] <Upu> no sorry looks lost :/
[14:17] <Upu> thats annoying
[14:17] <Upu> did you get your temp sensors ?
[14:17] <NigeyS> i did upu, many thanks, just what i was after, dunno why they send smd :/
[14:17] <Upu> cool
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[14:19] <fsphil> or hot
[14:21] <NigeyS> timid :p
[14:23] <fsphil> still not bad: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=eac2cfd8ca0a2a87e8fa46e8c713dd3d28512d47
[14:24] <fsphil> will know in an hour if I can get the helium
[14:26] <GW8RAK> Looking promising fsphil
[14:31] <perseus> to the guys who've done this many times: how accurate is the habhub.org predictions for landing spot and flight time?
[14:32] <W0OTM> http://www.w0otm.com/Projects/TapeMeasureYagi/
[14:34] <perseus> i guess it depends on your location
[14:35] <W0OTM> perseus: for me, its been within 10mi
[14:36] <W0OTM> perseus: but I havn't gotten the EXACT amount of He in the balloon as I put into the predictor
[14:36] <W0OTM> perseus: but the flight paths are spot on
[14:36] <perseus> ok, fairly decent, lets hope its that accurate for africa as well...
[14:37] <W0OTM> perseus: it does require accurate winds alot data...so depends on how accurate your weather organization is
[14:38] <perseus> so does the predictor get the data from the local sources?
[14:42] <juxta> perseus, no
[14:43] <Darkside> db: http://[2001:44b8:7cb1:cc50:0225:00ff:fe3e:4a31]:8001/listen.m3u
[14:43] <Darkside> whee
[14:43] <juxta> the predictor uses a worldwide model provided by the NOAA
[14:43] <Darkside> argh
[14:44] <juxta> the model is based on satellite data local met agencies contribute sounding data and the like from their own observations to enhance their own regions
[14:44] <juxta> but the predictor is quite accurate - assuming you get the ascent rate and descent rate right, that is
[14:45] <NigeyS> hey terry
[14:45] <juxta> hey NigeyS
[14:45] <juxta> I'm just about to head off to bed
[14:45] <NigeyS> did you get my email ?
[14:45] <NigeyS> ya ure up awfully late!
[14:45] <perseus> juxta: thanks.
[14:45] <juxta> yeah - sorry I havent gotten back to you yet
[14:46] <juxta> haven't had a chance to work on it as of yet :)
[14:46] <NigeyS> noo thats ok, just seeing if you got it, as said no rush at all
[14:46] <juxta> hehe, okay
[14:46] <NigeyS> have a good sleep!
[14:52] <griffonbot> @LVL1WhiteStar: @PBH-5's PBH-13 nabbed arhab high altitude record, and has landed. Recovery underway. #arhab [http://twitter.com/LVL1WhiteStar/status/43685188382883841]
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[14:56] <fsphil> that's 41.157km .. sweet
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[15:01] <Dan-K2VOL> morning
[15:02] <W0OTM> Morning
[15:02] <W0OTM> im doing quick video test. http://www.ihabproject.com/iHAB-3/MissionControl.php
[15:06] <fsphil> ooh works
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[15:07] <W0OTM> :)
[15:07] <W0OTM> good
[15:07] <W0OTM> going to have to use my iphone to do the webcast
[15:08] <Dan-K2VOL> that works
[15:08] <Dan-K2VOL> we use my original one all the time for ustream
[15:08] <Dan-K2VOL> it sits in the dock streaming our lab when we're there
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[15:15] <Laurenceb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/03/nuclear_war_climate_assistance/
[15:15] <Laurenceb> loool
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[15:15] <Laurenceb> not sure greenpeace would approve
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[16:09] <earthshine> Does EARS have the same blanket launch permission that Churchill has ?
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[16:11] <NigeyS> think they only launch certain days .. best to ask Rocketboy when he pops in
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[16:13] <earthshine> yeah but do they need a NOTAM ?
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[16:13] <NigeyS> not sure, id imagine theyve got a blanket NOTAM though
[16:17] <earthshine> cool
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[16:52] <fsphil> you'll need a decent yagi I think - this is in n.ireland
[16:52] <earthshine> yeah i have a large home made one
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[16:52] <earthshine> it's worth a try
[16:53] <fsphil> that'll do the trick
[16:53] <fsphil> I don't expect it to get above 30km, but over ~25km should put it just over your horizon
[16:54] <earthshine> cool
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[17:00] <griffonbot> Received email: Philip Heron <phil@sanslogic.co.uk> "[UKHAS] Hadie:3 launch this weekend"
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[17:39] <D00berry> Phil - what sized balloon are you using this weekend?
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[17:55] <fsphil> Dooberry, 600g
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[18:26] <W0OTM> WOW, my winds aloft are 107knts
[18:33] <fsphil> stay indoors :)
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[18:35] <fsphil> nooo... prediction is moving closer to the city: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=eac2cfd8ca0a2a87e8fa46e8c713dd3d28512d47
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[18:38] <W0OTM> fsphil: LOL
[18:38] <W0OTM> NO!
[18:39] Nick change: Zupht0r -> Zuph
[18:39] <Zuph> Stupid satellites.
[18:41] <NigeyS> huh Zuph ?
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[18:42] <Zuph> They move.
[18:42] <Zuph> And there aren't enough of them.
[18:42] <NigeyS> lol
[18:42] <x-f> fsphil, what if you go with 29km burst altitude?
[18:45] <fsphil> predictor burst calc is giving me funky numbers again
[18:46] <fsphil> yea that's better - though there's always the lake :)
[18:46] <fsphil> bah, launching a balloon here isn't easy :)
[18:47] <SpeedEvil> Can't you just get a pedallo at the edge of the lake if it lands in there?
[18:48] <fsphil> there are boats, I could probably get one
[18:55] <NigeyS> you only need a bloody dingy! :p
[18:55] <fsphil> Preferably red
[18:56] <NigeyS> pink!
[18:57] <fsphil> haha
[18:57] <NigeyS> upu has set the trend, everything now has to be flourescent pink!
[18:57] <fsphil> I'd have gotten the glow-in-the-dark tape if the P+P wasn't so menta
[18:57] <fsphil> +l
[18:59] <NigeyS> same ere, 17quid for a rool of tape.. NAH!
[18:59] <NigeyS> roll*
[18:59] <NigeyS> 3 tubes of pink acrylic paint, £6
[18:59] <NigeyS> although sanding down polystyrene is kinda messy
[19:00] <fsphil> doing anything with polystyrene is messy
[19:00] <NigeyS> gf can hoover up later, give her something to do when she gets in from work instead of raving on at me for being on the pc!
[19:01] <fsphil> ooch!
[19:01] <NigeyS> lol dont feel sorry for her! she gives as good as she gets believe me!
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[19:02] <gb73d> what time UTC is the IA balloon launch
[19:02] <gb73d> tomorrow
[19:02] <NigeyS> good question
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[19:06] <fsphil> IA?
[19:08] <gb73d> err...
[19:08] <gb73d> Iowa High Altitude Balloon Project's 3rd launch will take place
[19:08] <gb73d> tomorrow morning at 10AM CST from Ottumwa, IA.
[19:08] <gb73d> The 20M HF beacon on 14.059 will be operational again with on/off
[19:08] <gb73d> control demonstrated the last 5 minutes of each hour
[19:08] <gb73d> This flight also has an open 2M Simplex repeater on board at147.5 with
[19:08] <gb73d> 100 Hz tone, feel free to use it and report your success.
[19:08] <gb73d> Saturday - March 5, 2011
[19:08] <gb73d> Preflight: 1500z - 9AM CST (Webcast LIVE)
[19:08] <gb73d> Launch: 1600z - 10AM CST
[19:08] <gb73d> Flight Prediction:
[19:08] <gb73d> Burst Altitude: 28,910m (94,825ft)
[19:08] <gb73d> Range: 169.2km (105mi), Flight Time: 3hr 23min
[19:08] <gb73d> Landing: South of Davenport, IA
[19:08] <fsphil> oh, ihab
[19:08] <gb73d> ahh 1600 Z
[19:09] <gb73d> i answered my own q
[19:09] <fsphil> sweet :)
[19:09] <gb73d> might give that a go tomoz
[19:11] <Dan-K2VOL> whoops we missed the color scheme, ours is red on bottom, black in the middle, with a white stripe on the top edge. Might be familiar to those from over there
[19:11] <Dan-K2VOL> we'll have to do flourescent pink next time ;-)
[19:12] <fsphil> lol
[19:13] <NigeyS> no cheating now Dan-K2VOL you have to use paint and not tape :p
[19:13] <gb73d> with hamburgers for ballast
[19:13] <NigeyS> lol
[19:13] <NigeyS> Zuph
[19:13] <NigeyS> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DP-22V-DP-24-Russian-Soviet-Army-Military-DOSIMETER-/360345316498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e6412c92
[19:13] <NigeyS> sweet!
[19:14] <Zuph> hah, very nice
[19:14] <NigeyS> amazing what you find on ebay
[19:14] <Dan-K2VOL> heh NigeyS oh it's painted, and it looks like crap as a result!
[19:14] <Dan-K2VOL> we may go over it with colored duct tape to make it presentable
[19:14] <Zuph> Dan-K2VOL: Because it's painted? I don't know about that.
[19:14] <Dan-K2VOL> painting ripped polystyrene isn't the prettiest look
[19:14] <Zuph> There's a lot of other stuff making it look crappy :-p
[19:15] <Dan-K2VOL> hah
[19:15] <NigeyS> haha err.. in that case, you can cheat and use gaffa tape :p
[19:15] <Dan-K2VOL> NigeyS it's painted like the hull of the old white star liners used to be
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[19:16] <NigeyS> thats kinda neat!
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[20:14] <Laurenceb> what does hoop oscillatory mode mean in relation to a ring?
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[20:15] <GW8RAK_> Smug smile - the repeater I put together for the air cadets works!
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[20:16] <gb73d> wd
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[20:16] <GW8RAK_> Just had first contact. And not the squadron I was expecting.
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[20:23] <fsphil> nice
[20:23] Nick change: SpikeUK_ -> SpikeUK
[20:24] <GW8RAK_> Hi fsphil, all ready?
[20:24] <fsphil> *panic* ... yeaaaa.... ;)
[20:24] <GW8RAK_> Got my home brewed yagi ready for it's first real test.
[20:24] <GW8RAK_> So no extra pressure from me then :)
[20:25] <gb73d> GW* r u up for the IA 20m baloon tomoz 1600z ?
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[20:27] <MSP> Evening all
[20:27] <fsphil> I've managed to lose an sma socket
[20:27] <fsphil> hiya MSP
[20:28] <MSP> fsphil hello mate
[20:29] <GW8RAK_> A critical one?
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[20:30] <fsphil> well I could hack around it, but I'd rather not
[20:31] <fsphil> it's for connecting the antenna to the pcb
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[20:35] <GW8RAK_> Oops
[20:35] <GW8RAK_> Sort of critical then?
[20:35] <MSP> is it lost lost or just somewhere around but can't find?
[20:37] <fsphil> it's here somewhere :)
[20:38] <MSP> i had a girlfriend a bit like that once :\
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[20:39] <GW8RAK_> Got too many pc's on tonight.
[20:42] <fsphil> bingo, gotcha
[20:44] <MSP> lol, well done mate
[20:44] <fsphil> aarh, drills outta batteries
[20:45] <MSP> right catch you all later :)
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[20:46] <fsphil> can work on the polystyrene while that's charging
[20:49] <RedWagon> fsphi: could you guys use another drill? I have a new cordless DeWalt I can bring by around 8pm or so
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[20:56] <fsphil> you have a time machine? ;)
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[21:00] <fsphil> I've gotten distracted -- videos from the Discovery launch, SRB perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvSRnOJ8x38
[21:00] <RedWagon> yup. The drill runs out of juice again Sat morning around 10am and I figured I'd offer now so it didn't seem as suspicious when I showed up later with another drill. Despite all this, somehow you saw through my cunning plan and discovered my seceret. Just don't tell anyone k?
[21:02] <fsphil> Not a word ;)
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[21:04] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[21:04] <Lunar_Lander> GW8RAK_ thank you very much, your letter arrived here!
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[21:06] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[21:06] <fsphil> hiya LL
[21:06] <Lunar_Lander> hi fsphil
[21:06] <Lunar_Lander> I hope my gratitude didn't hit him too hard
[21:06] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:06] <fsphil> lol
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[21:06] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:06] <Lunar_Lander> hi GW8RAK
[21:07] <GW8RAK> Hi Lunar_Lander. Lost connection just then.
[21:07] <Lunar_Lander> no problem
[21:07] <GW8RAK> I hope the components get you going with your arduino.
[21:07] <Lunar_Lander> yes, I think so
[21:07] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[21:07] <Lunar_Lander> and today I called an electronics store to ask for a crystal
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[21:08] <GW8RAK> Hopefully you'll be ready to fly soon.
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[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> "I would need a 16 MHz crystal and would like to know how much one would cost?" "Oh we don't have crystals anymore, we only get them on special order" "hm" "how many do you need?" "I'd need one" "Yes, I would recommend you to look on the Internet then"
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> thank you :)
[21:09] <GW8RAK> Ebay is a good source.
[21:09] <Lunar_Lander> I'll have a look
[21:09] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[21:10] <Lunar_Lander> there will be an auction ending on sunday for a Stabo XR100 hand scanner that can du USB/LSB
[21:10] <Lunar_Lander> *do
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[21:10] <Lunar_Lander> that scanner is equivalent to the Yupiteru MVT-7100
[21:11] <Lunar_Lander> frequency range is 0.530 - 1650 MHz
[21:11] <GW8RAK> I got a MVT7100 a few weeks ago on ebay and am hoping to try it tomorrow listening to fsphil's launch.
[21:11] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:11] <Lunar_Lander> so if it works, it might be good to catch the Stabo?
[21:11] <GW8RAK> They are meant to be very sensitive, so it should be interesting.
[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> the stabo is currently at just 20.50 euro
[21:12] <GW8RAK> If it is the same electronics, then I'll let you know how I get on. I'll compare it to my Yaesu FT726
[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[21:12] <Lunar_Lander> I read that they are identical in construction
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[21:20] <fsphil> I've been nosying around 1.2 ghz, not hearing very much up there at all
[21:21] <Lunar_Lander> with stabo/yupiteru?
[21:21] <fsphil> nah, it's an SDR receiver (software defined radio)
[21:21] <fsphil> it can be used to receive ssb too, but I don't think it's a good choice for that
[21:22] <fsphil> seems to be very susceptible to noise
[21:23] <fsphil> polystyrene block cut, now gouging out the sections for camera, pcb and battery
[21:23] <fsphil> this is the messy bit :D
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:23] <GW8RAK> I think 1.2GHz activity will be concentrated on the UK microwave activity nights. Not much about on any other day.
[21:23] <fsphil> yea
[21:23] <fsphil> I'll have a listen during the next contest
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> yeah especially in the evenings
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> you know
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> when people make their dinner in their microwaves
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:24] <fsphil> I asked our intermediate tutor about the microwave bands - he's not interested in them at all
[21:24] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[21:25] <Lunar_Lander> did I tell you about my friend who worked at a satellite uplink in the military?
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[21:27] <StrayVoltage> Lunar_Lander: Please do.
[21:27] <Lunar_Lander> it was a big satellite dish and the uplink was of course using microwaves
[21:28] <Lunar_Lander> and he said that there was the part that was creating the waves and the casing of it was critical
[21:28] <Lunar_Lander> because if it cracked open, high energy radiation would have come out
[21:28] <Lunar_Lander> and they had instructions, as such, if someone got a sudden headache, the personell was required to leave their positions immediately
[21:29] <StrayVoltage> Ooh. Safe...
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> yes
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[21:33] <Lunar_Lander> so tomorrow, Blue Horizon will launch?
[21:33] <Lunar_Lander> it says at ARHAB
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[21:50] <Lunar_Lander> and how are you spending the friday evening GW8RAK and fsphil StrayVoltage ?
[21:51] <GW8RAK> Trying to rebuild a computer which picked up a virus during the week :(
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> hope it succeeds
[21:51] <GW8RAK> It's a pain because it is my work one and there's a lot of valuable information I must not lose
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:52] <GW8RAK> Everything backed up, but it just needs me to press the Restore button.
[21:52] <Lunar_Lander> that is really critical work
[21:52] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[21:52] <GW8RAK> Spoke to my son today about how to prevent viruses getting in and he lost me in discussions of virtual machines and multiple operating systems.
[21:53] <GW8RAK> I think I may have one purely for work and another for browsing and hobbies.
[21:53] <GW8RAK> At work.
[21:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:54] <GW8RAK> I think the virus got in while I was downloading a trade magazine which crashed on opening.
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:54] <GW8RAK> After that, everything was unpredictable.
[21:54] <GW8RAK> and slow
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> ohoh
[21:55] <GW8RAK> But I'm also spending the night in the company of some very nice beer.
[21:55] <GW8RAK> :)
[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> that is good :)
[21:55] <GW8RAK> Until I have to stand up.
[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> I got orange juice and I'm watching Clint Eastwood's "The Gauntlet"
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[21:57] Action: fsphil beats up his router
[21:58] <GW8RAK> I don't think it's your router tonight. I'm loosing connection every 30 mins or so.
[21:58] <fsphil> ah
[21:59] <Lunar_Lander> clint eastwood is cool
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[22:07] <fsphil> sma socket soldered
[22:07] <Lunar_Lander> yay
[22:08] <fsphil> that's the pcb finished at least
[22:09] <StrayVoltage> I'm procastinating working on this CNC stepper circuit.
[22:09] <fsphil> I could always string that to the balloon without insulation ;-)
[22:09] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[22:15] <NigeyS> fsphil, put some sunglasses on before checking your email :P
[22:16] <fsphil> ngnjgm4mkg5,.
[22:16] <Lunar_Lander> hi NigeyS :)
[22:17] <NigeyS> hey lunar
[22:17] <fsphil> That's very .... pink!
[22:17] <fsphil> Pink is the new silver
[22:18] <NigeyS> hehe should be able to see it in a field or up a tree no problem!
[22:19] <Lunar_Lander> yay clint takes revenge!
[22:20] <fsphil> or spot it from satellite
[22:21] <NigeyS> lol
[22:21] <NigeyS> hmm what would guys recommend using to attatch the cord to the payload box lid
[22:21] <fsphil> personally I'd attach the cord to the main body
[22:22] <fsphil> run it along each side, stick it down with glue or tape
[22:22] <Upu> gaffer tape :)
[22:22] <fsphil> so there'd be four strings coming of the payload box
[22:22] <NigeyS> ah thats an idea
[22:22] <Upu> thats what I used
[22:22] <NigeyS> hey upu
[22:22] <fsphil> and it's what I'm about to use :)
[22:22] <fsphil> only mine isn't pink
[22:23] <NigeyS> lol you need pink dude!
[22:23] <Upu> meh
[22:23] <NigeyS> upu you've started a trend!
[22:23] <Lunar_Lander> hi Upu
[22:23] <Upu> what time are you launcing ?
[22:23] <Upu> evening Lunar
[22:23] <fsphil> 11:00 ideally
[22:23] <fsphil> though knowing us it'll be later
[22:23] <NigeyS> 12pm then :P
[22:23] <fsphil> well, 11:30 ;)
[22:23] <NigeyS> £5 says 11:31 or later
[22:23] <Upu> well onsite tommorrow but hopefully I'll be back
[22:24] <Upu> I'd take that NigeyS :)
[22:24] <NigeyS> deal!
[22:24] <fsphil> !!
[22:24] <fsphil> right, back to work :p
[22:24] <fsphil> want to be up bright and early :)
[22:24] <NigeyS> yes go work or no launch! lol
[22:24] <natrium_> *lunch! >:]
[22:25] <NigeyS> hey naaaaaaaaaaaatrium
[22:25] <natrium_> whazzzup b
[22:25] <NigeyS> Upu, http://www.nigey.co.uk/pinkpayload.jpg ... not bad for 1 coat !
[22:26] <Upu> very nice almost as pink as mine :)
[22:26] <NigeyS> all good here natrium_ how's you dude ?
[22:26] <NigeyS> ya you win the prize for mega mega bright!
[22:26] <natrium_> good too, thanks
[22:26] <NigeyS> :D
[22:26] <natrium_> hehe, nice colour
[22:26] <NigeyS> i have to admit sanding the box was not fun!
[22:26] <NigeyS> blame Upu he started a pink thing ;)
[22:26] <Lunar_Lander> YAY clint survived!
[22:27] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[22:27] <Upu> Clint ?
[22:27] <Lunar_Lander> I'm watching Eastwood's "The Gauntlet"
[22:27] <Upu> Oh ok :) Just watched Black Swan with the wife
[22:27] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[22:28] <Lunar_Lander> "Ben, open your eyes, dammit, Ben you mustn't die!"
[22:28] <Lunar_Lander> "yeah, yeah, yeah"
[22:28] <Lunar_Lander> XD
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[22:33] <W0OTM> http://www.w0otm.com/Projects/TapeMeasureYagi/
[22:34] <Lunar_Lander> W0OTM your mission control says you are green to launch tomorrow? :)
[22:34] <W0OTM> yes
[22:34] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[22:35] <W0OTM> im excited to launch another one
[22:35] <W0OTM> been too long since fall
[22:36] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:36] <Lunar_Lander> CanisterLabs this time?
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[22:39] <W0OTM> No, this is a systems test
[22:39] <W0OTM> I have 2 school launches this spring
[22:39] <W0OTM> we are flying out DTMF controller
[22:39] <W0OTM> our*
[22:40] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[22:41] <Lunar_Lander> i-HAB 4 and 5 then
[22:42] <W0OTM> maybe, dont know flight numbers yet
[22:42] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok
[22:42] <W0OTM> I hope the simplex repeater works
[22:43] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> ah NigeyS and Upu
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> today I called a store for electronic parts
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> asking for a crystal
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> "I would need a 16 MHz crystal and would like to know how much one would cost?" "Oh we don't have crystals anymore, we only get them on special order" "hm" "how many do you need?" "I'd need one" "Yes, I would recommend you to look on the Internet then"
[22:55] <Upu> what sort of electrical store do you go too ? :/
[22:55] <Upu> Maplins have them
[22:55] <Lunar_Lander> it is a family owned store
[22:55] <Lunar_Lander> well yeah, they have a components and a computer section
[22:55] <Lunar_Lander> the computer section still has Pentium 4 stickers on the door
[22:56] <Laurenceb> hah
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[23:02] <Lunar_Lander> at least he has 4.7 kOhm resistors
[23:02] <Laurenceb> http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home/Business/Contact%20Info
[23:02] <Laurenceb> looks like they are on my street :P
[23:02] <Lunar_Lander> yay
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[23:03] <Lunar_Lander> uhhh
[23:03] <Lunar_Lander> now I'm watching Dirty Harry 1
[23:03] <fsphil> the polystyrene ... it's everywhere!!!
[23:03] <Lunar_Lander> the scene with the ripped out tooth
[23:06] <Laurenceb> fsphil: using a hacksaw blade?
[23:06] <fsphil> yep :)
[23:06] <fsphil> and then fingers, to scrape out the cavity for the camera and other bits
[23:06] <Lunar_Lander> you can transform a fretsaw into a good polystyrene cutter
[23:06] <Lunar_Lander> by replacing the blade with a wire, fed by a battery
[23:06] <Lunar_Lander> but I think I mentioned that once :)
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[23:06] <fsphil> right, back to it...
[23:12] <MoALTz> i wonder what the cryptic "Stuff:" email is about
[23:12] <MoALTz> (on the armadillo site)
[23:16] <Laurenceb> supposedly they are lanuching the tube rocket soon
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[23:38] <Laurenceb> http://www.es.northropgrumman.com/technologies/gyroscopes/
[23:38] <Laurenceb> that IMU looks so awesome
[23:50] <SpeedEvil> Do they do free samples?
[23:52] <NigeyS> hey Zuph , juxta
[23:52] <Lunar_Lander> xD that would be awesome
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[23:58] <griffonbot> Received email: "Rob, M0DTS" <rswinbank@gmail.com> "Re: [UKHAS] Hadie:3 launch this weekend"
[23:58] <SpeedEvil> 'I would like a sample of your 20MT device, I plan to use it to experiment making _really_ big fireworks, with a smiley face on them'
[23:59] <Lunar_Lander> ARHAB has Blue Horizon marked green
[23:59] <Lunar_Lander> so they flew already?
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