highaltitude.log.20110226

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[00:04] <griffonbot> @projecthorus: Preparing for launch of Horus 15 #arhab #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/projecthorus/status/41287328752336896]
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[00:05] <vk5gr> shenki are you about?
[00:08] <pschulz01> pschulz01 == vk5fpaw listening
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[00:12] <NigeyS> odd my gps thinks im at -15m :|
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[00:29] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9569
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[00:29] <Lunar_Lander> that one goes to the 5V port of the arduino?
[00:30] <NigeyS> yups that's the 1
[00:34] <Lunar_Lander> and the data line it has?
[00:35] <vk5fpaw> horus up ?
[00:36] <NigeyS> yup lunar
[00:36] <NigeyS> vk5fpaw, dont think its up yet
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[00:37] <Lunar_Lander> no I mean
[00:37] <Lunar_Lander> in which arduino port goes the data line
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[00:41] <NigeyS> any of the digital pins .. unless its analog then it goes into the analogue pins
[00:41] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[00:42] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[00:42] <NigeyS> :)
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[00:57] <vk5gr> vk5fpaw - not yet expect about 12:30 I think - havent seen darksidee come to life yet
[00:57] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS "Near linear, analog output"
[00:57] <Lunar_Lander> there is the answer
[00:57] <Lunar_Lander> :) thanks again
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[00:59] <Lunar_Lander> earthshine may I ask another question?
[01:07] <Lunar_Lander> is he still here?
[01:07] <NigeyS> doubt it
[01:08] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[01:08] <Lunar_Lander> I wanted to know if the arduino uno he offers is the one with the removable CPU and not the SMD
[01:09] <NigeyS> not sure dude
[01:10] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[01:17] <Zuph> The non-SMD unos are getting really rare.
[01:20] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[01:20] <Lunar_Lander> and I need one of these
[01:21] <Zuph> Why's that?
[01:22] <Lunar_Lander> to do that test setup on the breadboard which NigeyS showed me
[01:22] <Lunar_Lander> which involves removing the CPU from the board and putting it onto the breadboard
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[01:27] <NigeyS> ello Zuph, Dan
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[01:40] <Dan-K2VOL> hi NigeyS
[01:47] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[01:47] <Lunar_Lander> does someone have an old radio receiver?
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[01:57] <vk5fpaw> Anyone in touch with Horus launch site?
[01:57] <vk5gr> vk5fpaw - yes
[01:58] <vk5gr> they are about to launch i have been told
[01:58] <vk5fpaw> How are they going... I will be trying to pick up telemetry in Mawson Lakes.
[01:58] <vk5fpaw> Can't hear anything yet.
[01:58] <vk5gr> 14080 for HF and the usual 70cm channel
[01:58] <vk5gr> it is still on the ground
[01:58] <vk5fpaw> vk5gr: I'll be trying both.
[01:59] <vk5fpaw> Only one at a time though.
[01:59] <vk5gr> aparently hf has yet to get gps lock
[01:59] <vk5fpaw> vk5gr: Paul here.
[01:59] <vk5gr> vk5fpaw - hi paul it's grant on this end
[02:00] <vk5fpaw> vk5gr: Cheers grant.
[02:00] <vk5gr> the guys are also monitoring 439.900 repeater
[02:00] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[02:04] <vk5fpaw> vk5gr: Thanks.. got though to 439.900
[02:04] <vk5fpaw> vk5gr: Where is that repeater?
[02:04] <vk5gr> no probs - herad you there - just listening at this stage
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[02:11] <vk5fpaw> Horus has launched
[02:11] <NigeyS> yey
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[02:22] <NigeyS> hey juxta-chasecar
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[02:25] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: After some issues with the HF transmitter overheating, we have launched! #arhab #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/41322909154803712]
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[02:30] <NigeyS> brb!
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[02:35] <juxta-chasecar> ping Darkside
[02:37] <vk5fpaw> Having some trouble decoding the HF(darkside) signal, but horus is receiving and decoding well.
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[02:49] <WhiteStarMC-238> I'm having trouble accessing the private wiki
[02:49] <WhiteStarMC-238> I created an account so I can see edit buttons now, but I can't find any login information
[02:49] <vk5gr> juxta-chasecar: i'm giving up on hf - i can just hear the signal but cant print it. have a good day - looks like you wont be swiming at least
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[02:50] <Zuph> WhiteStarMC-238: Should work. Works for me and my test account.
[02:51] <WhiteStarMC-238> oh, found it. Just didn't look hard enough
[02:53] <NigelMoby> How's hours doing? Can't get the tracker loading on the mobile :/
[02:53] <NigelMoby> Horus*
[02:55] <Darkside> all good
[02:55] <NigelMoby> Yey
[02:59] <Darkside> hf power amp overheated and tshutdown the bttris
[02:59] <Darkside> had to remove it, so nly hav 22mw out power oh mhf
[02:59] <Darkside> hf*
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[03:02] <Darkside> vk5gr: ping
[03:03] <Darkside> juxta-chasecar:
[03:03] <Darkside> shenki:
[03:05] <shenki> Darkside: yo!
[03:05] <Darkside> heyyy
[03:05] <Darkside> sup
[03:05] Action: shenki had to enable password auth so i could log into ssh
[03:05] <Darkside> hhe
[03:06] <juxta-chasecar> Hey Darkside, shenki
[03:06] <Darkside> getting food here
[03:06] <shenki> did that via amboar's phone
[03:06] <shenki> juxta-chasecar: yo
[03:06] <Darkside> lol
[03:06] <Darkside> hams on radio, nerds on irc
[03:06] <Darkside> :D
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[03:10] <juxta-chasecar> Darkside How is the HF going?
[03:11] <Darkside> oisy now
[03:11] <Darkside> noisy
[03:11] <Darkside> cant decode
[03:11] <vk5gr> darkside: you rang?
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[03:12] <Darkside> vk5gr: hf?
[03:12] <vk5gr> i can detect a carrier but cant decode anything
[03:12] <Darkside> ok
[03:12] <vk5fpaw> Darkside: I'm getting probably 1:20 error
[03:12] <Darkside> reverse
[03:12] <Darkside> ok
[03:12] <Darkside> 22mw out p
[03:13] <vk5fpaw> Decoded one packet
[03:13] <vk5gr> that will do it - and all I have for an antenna is a long wire drapped across the backyard between some trees.
[03:13] <Darkside> power amp meltd
[03:14] <Dan-K2VOL> on ustream rigging ballast ropes
[03:14] <Dan-K2VOL> http://ustre.am/oIad
[03:14] <vk5fpaw> Darkside: Rock solid frequecy though.
[03:14] <vk5fpaw> Darkside: .. compared to 70cm, which is constantly drifting up.
[03:15] <vk5fpaw> vk5gr: Vertical wire up a squidpole.
[03:17] <Dan-K2VOL> are you guys crazy or am I totally messed up with my time zones
[03:17] <Dan-K2VOL> is it really like 3AM there?
[03:17] <Dan-K2VOL> ahh zoomed out
[03:17] <Dan-K2VOL> you're in Australia not the UK
[03:17] <vk5fpaw> 1.45pm Sputh Australian time
[03:17] <Dan-K2VOL> much more sense
[03:20] <shenki> the signal is drifting back up
[03:20] <vk5fpaw> shenki: Hello
[03:20] <Darkside> lol shenki
[03:21] <Darkside> liuxxx
[03:23] <shenki> vk5fpaw: hello
[03:23] <shenki> Darkside: huh?
[03:23] <Darkside> nvm
[03:23] <vk5fpaw> shenki: chasing?
[03:23] <Darkside> you can go back o talking about linux
[03:25] <vk5fpaw> AhhhhH!!!!! I've think ive seen every error in 'DARKSIDE', and most packets are clean except for one or two characters messed up.
[03:25] <vk5fpaw> DASKRID
[03:26] <shenki> prediction is busted
[03:27] <shenki> the balloon is heading 90 degrees west of the path says
[03:27] <vk5fpaw> Off by miles^m^m^m^m^m kilometers
[03:29] <Darkside> yup
[03:29] <Darkside> i see too
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[03:29] <Darkside> ive changed the ust al inthe onf, still no lk
[03:31] <WhiteStarMC-238> has anyone got satcom7@whitestarballoon.org to work with pop?
[03:31] <WhiteStarMC-238> imap works fine but allows users to delete messages
[03:32] <Darkside> shenki: my predic is working
[03:32] <Zuph> WhiteStarMC-238: POP with gmail needs ssl auth
[03:32] <Darkside> ish
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[03:33] <Darkside> shenki: wanabi
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[03:37] <shenki> Darkside: what?
[03:38] <Darkside> landing
[03:38] <Darkside> predited landing
[03:38] <Darkside> anbi*
[03:38] <Darkside> wanbi
[03:41] <shenki> ok
[03:45] <vk5fpaw> What was the expected altitude?
[03:45] <Darkside> 30km
[03:45] <vk5fpaw> Just a little short
[03:45] <Darkside> wonder what happened
[03:46] <vk5fpaw> Dingo in a U2
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[03:48] <shenki> Darkside: is the prediction still landing at wambi?
[03:49] <shenki> Darkside: i havent got the right map loaded in oziexplorer
[03:49] <shenki> so i cant see where it lands
[03:49] <shenki> our plan is to go along the gun barrel road onec we get past bowhill
[03:49] <shenki> thats the due east road that runs straight to loxton rd
[03:50] <shenki> we cant hear zsn on radio, too much static
[03:51] <Darkside> ok
[03:51] <Darkside> online tcker
[03:51] <Darkside> we are on there
[03:51] <vk5fpaw> shenki: Is that through the repeater at 439.900?
[03:51] <shenki> vk5fpaw: nope, simplex on 70cm
[03:53] <shenki> Darkside: are you going to follow us on gunbarrrel?
[03:53] <shenki> or do we need to go further north?
[03:56] <shenki> changing path
[03:57] <Darkside> ok
[03:57] <Darkside> same distane
[03:57] <Darkside> we will go gunbarrel then nort
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[04:03] <Darkside> shenki: ping
[04:03] <Darkside> do you see us on ap
[04:03] <Darkside> map
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[04:10] <Darkside> landed
[04:10] <Darkside> juxping
[04:10] <vk5fpaw> Did you see it?
[04:10] <Darkside> i didnt
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[04:11] <vk5fpaw> Darkside: Got at lease 1 HF decode :-)
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[04:55] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: At the landing site. #arhab #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/41360554266198016]
[04:56] <shenki> recovered!
[04:56] <Darkside> yup lol
[04:56] <Darkside> i see you shenki
[04:57] <shenki> creepy
[04:57] <Darkside> lol
[04:57] <shenki> beer time!
[04:57] <Darkside> so, sup
[04:57] <shenki> keen to go for a swim
[04:57] <shenki> in the river
[04:58] <Darkside> heh
[04:58] <Darkside> im not
[04:58] <Darkside> not in he urray...
[04:58] <Darkside> DUS
[04:58] <Darkside> dust*
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[05:16] <Darkside> soooo, juxta_ ran out of fuel
[05:16] <Darkside> so we are towing him
[05:16] <Dan-K2VOL> ohh no!
[05:16] <Dan-K2VOL> be careful guys
[05:16] <Darkside> lol
[05:16] <Darkside> is ok
[05:17] <shenki> Darkside: take photos
[05:18] <Darkside> can do
[05:25] <Darkside> ok
[05:26] <Darkside> we are away
[05:26] <Darkside> towing now
[05:30] <Darkside> shenki: ping
[05:30] <Darkside> is there fuel in bowhill
[05:31] <Darkside> good
[05:41] <Darkside> evening irs
[05:41] <Darkside> sirs
[05:41] <Darkside> bah
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[06:00] <shenki> epic flooding here
[06:03] <Darkside> ooh
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[08:40] <griffonbot> Received email: Nick Leaton <nickle@gmail.com> "[UKHAS] Shuttle"
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[09:00] <MI6VIM> brrr it's a cold morning
[09:06] Nick change: MI6VIM -> fsphil
[09:12] <Upu> just wet and crap here again
[09:19] <fsphil> sunny blue skies here, but still cold
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[09:36] <fsphil> ah, now that's more like it: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=5c1510efaa052d308becb2277d2e3168c3b4209a
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[09:54] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[09:54] <Lunar_Lander> how was horus 15?
[09:55] <earthshine> Lunar_Lander: Its the standard Uno
[09:56] <Lunar_Lander> with the removable CPU?
[09:56] <Lunar_Lander> that is good to hear
[09:57] <Lunar_Lander> thank you earthshine
[09:57] <earthshine> yep
[09:57] <Lunar_Lander> and you also send to germany?
[09:57] <earthshine> I send anywhere
[09:57] <Lunar_Lander> ah good
[10:01] <Lunar_Lander> you said yesterday that you are working on your own balloon too
[10:01] <earthshine> Indeed
[10:01] <earthshine> When I get the time
[10:01] <Lunar_Lander> how much progress have you made so far?
[10:01] <earthshine> not a lot - lol
[10:01] <earthshine> But this weekend is my first free one in about 6 months so I am going to do some work on it
[10:02] <earthshine> i spent most of the last year writing a book
[10:10] <fsphil> muhaha, if only: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=118b39e32d8bccf071c9c4b24f931a37b5daa9d3
[10:13] <earthshine> /win 4
[10:13] <earthshine> bollocks
[10:14] <fsphil> hehe
[10:15] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[10:15] <Lunar_Lander> what is the topic of your book?
[10:16] <earthshine> Arduino of course
[10:16] <fsphil> first prediction for hadie:3 -- http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=c8c664f17b3398dc97b648e530767c8defdfc536
[10:16] <Lunar_Lander> cool
[10:17] <earthshine> #highaltitude] 6creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D1430232404
[10:17] <earthshine> oops
[10:17] <earthshine> http://www.amazon.de/Beginning-Arduino-Michael-McRoberts/dp/1430232404/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1
[10:20] <Lunar_Lander> nice :)
[10:20] <Lunar_Lander> you got an order btw ;)
[10:21] <earthshine> Cool :)
[10:21] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[10:50] <m1x10> Hi to all :)
[10:50] Action: fsphil waves
[10:51] <m1x10> :)
[10:56] <SpeedEvil> hi
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[11:12] <m1x10> Hi SpeedEvil
[11:15] Nick change: laurence__ -> Laurenceb_
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[11:36] <earthshine> http://www.space.com/10963-student-balloon-photos-shuttle-discovery-launch.html
[11:37] <russss> not bad, I bet they had an outer lens on the payload though.
[11:37] <earthshine> looks like it
[11:37] <earthshine> alwyas best to just let the lens be open to air
[11:38] <russss> this one is rather good. http://www.space.com/images/i/8331/original/student-balloon-photo-florida.jpg?1298674553
[11:38] <earthshine> very nice that one
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[11:57] <griffonbot> @darksidelemm: Incredibly tired after a day of balloon chasing. Sleep time now, Amateur Licence exam tomorrow! #arhab #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/41466873669361664]
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[12:18] <m1x10> very nice pic
[12:21] <fsphil> the cloud looks like snow
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[12:40] <NigeyS> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeechooooooooooo
[12:45] <griffonbot> @wb5rmg: New blog post: WB8ELK 20mHF Balloon launch TODAY /;^) http://wb5rmg.wordpress.com #hamr #balloon #arhab [http://twitter.com/wb5rmg/status/41478884738203648]
[12:46] <Laurenceb_> cant see any shuttle
[12:48] <NigeyS> lots of smoke
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[12:56] <Laurenceb_> huh where
[12:57] <Laurenceb_> oh i see - looks like a misted lens :(
[12:58] <NigeyS> yup :(
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[13:10] <NigeyS> haha cool wb8elk is releasing paper aeroplanes
[13:16] <m1x10> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tnlIGE1PvU&feature=player_embedded
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[14:24] <jcoxon> Afternoon
[14:25] <Upu> 07 wb
[14:26] <jcoxon> Missed much?
[14:26] <NigeyS> hey james, having a good time ?
[14:26] <jcoxon> Back tomorrow
[14:26] <NigeyS> crikey thats flown by aint it
[14:27] <NigeyS> wb8elk is launching paper aeroplanes today :|
[14:27] <jcoxon> Yeah I saw
[14:27] <jcoxon> Will be interesting
[14:28] <NigeyS> yup, be cool to see how far they REALLY go :D
[14:28] <jcoxon> Any news about when whitestar are going to fly?
[14:29] <NigeyS> no date yet, they have a mission control sim this weekend, and afaik the hardwares almost complete, possibly end of next week ..
[14:29] <jcoxon> Cool cool
[14:30] <Laurenceb_> my bet would be 50m mean deviation
[14:30] <NigeyS> be nice to see their hard work pay off and watch the launch
[14:30] <Laurenceb_> between where they land
[14:30] <jcoxon> Glad I won't be missing that
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[14:30] <jcoxon> Trans-a launches are fun
[14:31] <NigeyS> they had a nice jetstream to bring them to the u.k on thursday but things werent ready :(
[14:32] <jcoxon> Oh well
[14:32] <Laurenceb_> they will spiral down in a veyr boring fashion in my bet
[14:32] <NigeyS> the planes?
[14:32] <jcoxon> Laurence that's sort of the point
[14:33] <jcoxon> To prove thmn wrong
[14:33] <jcoxon> Them
[14:35] <NigeyS> ive got my balloon and parachute to james.. almost ready :D
[14:35] <jcoxon> Excellent
[14:36] <NigeyS> and a very very bright pink payload box :|
[14:36] <jcoxon> CAA permissions?
[14:36] <jcoxon> Upu, make it for you?
[14:36] <NigeyS> thats pretty much all im waiting for, notam went off last week, so as soon as it comes through im good to go .. nah i went for the acrylic paint job, the gaffa tape worked out 17quid a roll!
[14:37] <Laurenceb_> they need gps and a rate gyro to keep them straight :P
[14:37] <Laurenceb_> - the planes
[14:37] <NigeyS> payload box is an EPS7 .. nice and light should be fine with the 600g balloon :D
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[14:38] <NigeyS> isnt the fact theres bugger all air at burst altitude going to have som rather large impact on them "flying" ? :|
[14:38] <Laurenceb_> well basic theory would sy theyd fly faster
[14:39] <Laurenceb_> but paper planes are hard to trim right, and the aerosynamics are pretty complex
[14:39] <Laurenceb_> are spelling
[14:39] <NigeyS> true, i can never make 1 of the things fly lol !
[14:39] <Laurenceb_> so they might not work, i dont know
[14:39] <Upu> Hey NigeyS
[14:40] <NigeyS> hey hey
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[14:44] <NigeyS> oh jcoxon i emailed locosys to ask about the chips limits, they are bringing out a similar chip thats not altitude restricted
[14:45] <jcoxon> Oh right, cool
[14:46] <NigeyS> apparently theyre working on a firmware update and will send me a sample as soon as its been through internal testing, if it performs anything like the current chip i have it'll be a good addition to the hab useable chips
[14:46] <Laurenceb_> interesting
[14:46] <Laurenceb_> didnt realise locosys were firendly
[14:46] <Laurenceb_> ive found ublox very nice to talk to in the past
[14:47] <NigeyS> yeah theyve been really good to deal with, they wanted to do a firmware update for the current chips to unlock the limit but apparently that wasnt possible
[14:48] <jcoxon> Keep us updated
[14:48] <NigeyS> The either one solution does not provide by every GPS chip provider.
[14:48] <NigeyS> LS20031 is belonging to ROM based and previous product so it can not
[14:49] <NigeyS> suitable to either one restriction.
[14:49] <NigeyS> Our UC-1513 is verifying new firmware which is suitable to balloon
[14:49] <NigeyS> application by our RD teams.
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[15:02] <jonsowman> juxta_: ping
[15:02] <juxta_> hey jonsowman
[15:03] <juxta_> just about to head to bed
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[15:03] <jonsowman> ah sorry - just wanted to say thanks for the lassens
[15:03] <jonsowman> got them yesterday :)
[15:03] <juxta_> oh that was quick - you're welcome :)
[15:03] <jonsowman> very kind of you
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[15:15] <juxta_> off to bed with me - good luck with the connectors DanielRichman
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[15:28] <NigeyS> jgrahamc, thank you for the book, arrived this morning :-)
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[16:01] <jgrahamc> Brilliant NigeyS so the post does work sometimes!
[16:01] <NigeyS> haha yes, on very rare occasions!
[16:02] <jgrahamc> Pretty quick as well.
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[16:03] <NigeyS> unusually quick, quite impressed
[16:04] <jgrahamc> Just prepping for my distance radio test tomorrow. Discovered that I'd glued the battery pack too close to the flight computer. No clearance for the SMA connector to the antenna! Rank amateur :-)
[16:05] <jgrahamc> Easily fixed, but having removed the battery packs I discovered just how loosely they were glued down. Probably a lucky break to have found this problem now.
[16:05] <NigeyS> uhoh, hopefully that wont damage your mylar to much
[16:06] <jgrahamc> Interestingly the battery packs came unglued from the Mylar quite easily and with no damage (which makes me think they weren't very well glued down in the first place!)
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[16:07] <NigeyS> thats a stroke of luck then, more glue in future hehe!
[16:08] <StrayVoltage> Perhaps you could use thin steel wire, and tie it down instead?
[16:08] <StrayVoltage> Guaranteed to not come loose. :)
[16:10] <NigeyS> that'd work nicely
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[16:22] <jgrahamc> StrayVoltage: yes, that's a possibility. Or perhaps cable ties through the capsule wall to make sure they don't move.
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> Wierd. Somethings gone wrong with the weather. When I go outside, I can't see my breath.
[16:23] <StrayVoltage> Cable ties would be better, I assume, as the chance for any kind of interference pickup is zero. :)
[16:24] <NigeyS> lol SpeedEvil it's called warmth :P
[16:24] <SpeedEvil> :)
[16:24] <SpeedEvil> It's actually 11C in here.
[16:24] <NigeyS> :o get the sun tan lotion out!
[16:25] <SpeedEvil> I was actually using it today.
[16:25] <SpeedEvil> The whole burn easily thing, and doing stuff outside.
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[16:40] <NigeyS> meh watching nasa news conference, why are these half wit journalists so obsessed with foam loss?!
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[16:44] <imrcly> FOAMMMM
[16:44] <NigeyS> lol theyre obsessed with the stuff
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[16:59] <StrayVoltage> NigeyS: It's called sensational news.
[16:59] <StrayVoltage> Or Fox news, for short.
[16:59] <StrayVoltage> ;)
[16:59] <NigeyS> lol good point
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[17:44] <imrcly> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_9GHoR-RJLy8/STERc_nVohI/AAAAAAAAJpw/_yJKJmt3md0/s320/einstein-creature.jpg
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[18:12] <DG9BFC> wanna setup fldigi for receiving baloon flight ... any helpers here??
[18:13] <DG9BFC> ???????????
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[18:15] <Dan-K2VOL> hello
[18:15] <Dan-K2VOL> sure
[18:15] <Dan-K2VOL> you need help setting it up?
[18:15] <Dan-K2VOL> dg9bfc?
[18:15] <DG9BFC> yep
[18:16] <DG9BFC> i need a help
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[18:17] <DG9BFC> friend sent me a mail ... where it says "open the HAB version ... high altitude baloon .... where can i find this??
[18:17] <DG9BFC> fl digi is up and running
[18:17] <Dan-K2VOL> hmm
[18:18] <Dan-K2VOL> I'll check
[18:19] <DG9BFC> Once installed open the HAB version (High Altitude Balloon)
[18:19] <DG9BFC> It will ask you stuff like your location etc.
[18:19] <DG9BFC> Fire it up and on this flight choose WB8ELK2 inder the flight,
[18:19] <DG9BFC> Then at the right hand side hit the auto configure button. This will load the modes that will be used onthis flight.
[18:20] <DG9BFC> ?????
[18:20] <DanielRichman> DG9BFC: the hab version is a customised version of fldigi called dl-fldigi
[18:20] <Dan-K2VOL> yeah I'im looking for a download link for you
[18:20] <DG9BFC> where to find?????????
[18:20] <DanielRichman> have a read of this http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide
[18:21] <Dan-K2VOL> here's one if you're looking to do the Whitestarballoon too http://wiki.whitestarballoon.com/doku.php?id=hardware:radio:hf:wb8elkwhitestarn17
[18:21] <Dan-K2VOL> same stuff
[18:21] <Dan-K2VOL> just different radio freq really
[18:21] <DanielRichman> windows, mac: https://github.com/jamescoxon/dl-fldigi/downloads; linux: debs are avaialble, or you can compile from source
[18:24] <DG9BFC> just instaööing right now
[18:24] <DG9BFC> be right back in a minute
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[18:55] <NigeyS> hi dan hi zuph
[18:55] <Zuph> Morning
[18:55] <NigeyS> morning dude, how's things ?
[18:55] <Dan-K2VOL> morning
[18:55] <NigeyS> what time does bill launch (UK) ?
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[19:10] <mattltm-portable> Hi all :)
[19:10] <NigeyS> hey matt
[19:11] <mattltm-portable> Nigey - open up a PM for me :)
[19:12] <mattltm-portable> Cant work out how to do it from this crap client :(
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[19:18] <NSS-WB9SBD> mark szx ya here?
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[19:22] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[19:32] <Lunar_Lander> hi m1x10
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[19:33] <mattltm-portable> My bum is getting cold sitting here on the data floor :(
[19:33] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[19:33] <mattltm-portable> I need to get a chair and a crash cart in here.
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[19:34] <NigeyS> lol DC's are not good for your bodies central heating!
[19:37] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[19:38] <mattltm-portable> Your damm right.
[19:38] <mattltm-portable> Chilly
[19:39] <mattltm-portable> And im sitting in the cold isle :(
[19:39] <NigeyS> lmao
[19:40] <NigeyS> find a nice busy radi array that'll warm you up :P
[19:40] <NigeyS> raid*
[19:41] <mattltm-portable> good plan.
[19:41] <mattltm-portable> Shame the local monitor wont strech that far :(
[19:42] <mattltm-portable> oh well, only 20 blades left to format :(
[19:43] <NigeyS> ouch, do have fun with that hehe
[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS
[19:43] <NigeyS> yo
[19:43] <Lunar_Lander> hello first of all :)
[19:43] <NigeyS> hihi
[19:44] <Lunar_Lander> and I ordered an Uno from earthshine today, actually the last one he had in stock :)
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[19:44] <NigeyS> excellent :D
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[19:44] <NigeyS> you'll have much fun !
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[19:46] <mattltm-portable> I love my Uno :)
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[19:47] <mattltm-portable> NigeyS: Is the WB8ELK stream showing a launch that is going on today?
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[19:48] <NigeyS> yup it's live
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> sparkfun has an "inventor's kid"
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> *kit
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> and the website says, that among the applications for the Uno, that can be done with the kit is
[19:48] <Lunar_Lander> "making (bad) music"
[19:48] <NigeyS> lol
[19:49] <sconklin> WB8ELK launch info: http://wb5rmg.wordpress.com/
[19:49] <sconklin> that's all I have, anyway
[19:49] <natrium42> what's an Uno?
[19:49] <NigeyS> arduino
[19:49] <natrium42> eeek
[19:49] <NigeyS> lol
[19:49] <natrium42> :D
[19:50] <NigeyS> you love the arduino's natrium42 :p
[19:50] <natrium42> sure do :D
[19:50] <m1x10> look look: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/isslivestream.asx
[19:50] <m1x10> :):)
[19:50] <natrium42> did they dock yet?
[19:50] <NigeyS> im gonna send a mini itx server !
[19:50] <m1x10> sdrarova natrium42
[19:50] <m1x10> :)
[19:51] <natrium42> o/
[19:52] <Lunar_Lander> docking is not yet complete
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[19:52] <Lunar_Lander> they wait for the forces to damp out
[19:52] <mattltm-portable> Oh crap. I should have turned off the FM200 Halon gas system!
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[19:56] <natrium42> california is too cold :(
[19:56] <natrium42> i was hoping to get some warmth...
[19:56] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS what was the idea again to connect multiple sensors?
[19:57] <NigeyS> stripboard
[19:58] <NigeyS> or design a pcb :P
[19:59] <Lunar_Lander> what is stripboard?
[19:59] <NigeyS> http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Fasteners-Production-Equipment/PCB-Equipment/Prototyping-Boards/Stripboard/29453/kw/34-0505?source=googleps&utm_source=googleps
[20:00] <Lunar_Lander> ah cool
[20:01] <Lunar_Lander> so you take the sensors and mount them on the stripboard
[20:09] <Lunar_Lander> correct?
[20:12] <dg9bfc> baloon is filled ... almost redy for takeoff :-)
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[20:13] <Lunar_Lander> yeah :)
[20:18] <dg9bfc> door open :-)
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[20:19] <mattltm> Woo!
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:25] <NSS-WB9SBD> Is anyone here gonna be able to hear it at all over the RTTY contest?
[20:25] <mattltm> What freq?
[20:26] <NSS-WB9SBD> 14.102 USB
[20:27] <mattltm> Lots of RTTY :(
[20:28] <NigeyS> loads of it on 14.104
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[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> btw
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS I was asking bits of info the last days
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> I thought it would be more efficient if I'd tell you my complete plan
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> that would probably be better than asking single steps
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> what do you think?
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[20:39] <Lunar_Lander> hi jgrahamc Zuph
[20:39] <jgrahamc> evening Lunar_Lander
[20:39] <Zuph> afternoon Lunar_Lander
[20:40] <dg9bfc> here we go
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[20:42] <Lunar_Lander> liftoff
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[20:43] <mattltm> Stream link please?
[20:43] <jgrahamc> There's a flight today?
[20:44] <Lunar_Lander> batc.tv
[20:44] <Lunar_Lander> click "Member Streams"
[20:44] <Lunar_Lander> and then select WB8ELK
[20:44] Action: LazyLeopard points across an ocean...
[20:44] <mattltm> ta :)
[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> heading north-east
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[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> +4.6 m/s
[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> decent ascent rate this time
[20:46] <sconklin> I'm getting a good signal, but I'm only a few miles from th elaunch
[20:46] <mattltm> What type of flight is this? Endurance?
[20:46] <Lunar_Lander> it'll pass by KK4ADL
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[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS ?
[20:53] <Lunar_Lander> what do you think?
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[20:55] <jcoxon> Evening
[20:55] <jcoxon> Wb8elk up?
[20:55] <jgrahamc> Yes jcoxon it is
[20:56] <jcoxon> Going okay? Can't get spacenear on my phone
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[20:56] <NigeyS> aye, trying to track it through a rtty contest is a bit of a knightmare mind
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> it went NE, turns due east now
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> ascent rate is
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> 3 m/s
[20:57] <Lunar_Lander> 3375 m altitude
[20:58] <jcoxon> Ooo the kml works
[20:59] <NigeyS> :D
[20:59] <NigeyS> 4.1ms now
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[21:03] <jcoxon> Cool cool
[21:05] <Lunar_Lander> nigeys what is your opinion on my idea?
[21:05] <NigeyS> would be easier yes :)
[21:06] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[21:06] <NigeyS> brb
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[21:15] <jcoxon> Slow ascent rate
[21:15] <Lunar_Lander> yes, but it is quicker than last time fortunately
[21:16] <Dan-K2VOL> hi jcoxon
[21:16] <Dan-K2VOL> have a good holiday?
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[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> hi dan
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[21:21] <jcoxon> Many US people on the channel currently?
[21:25] <NigeyS> theres a few here i think, lots on bill tv streaming thingie
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[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[21:32] <NSS-WB9SBD> I'm Back
[21:33] <NSS-WB9SBD> anyone hear the payload at all?
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[21:37] <sconklin> I've been hearing it since launch - have not had an error-free decode in about 15 minutes.
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[21:37] <jcoxon> sconklin, have you tried multipsk?
[21:37] <sconklin> There's a really strong rtty contester overlapping the signal a bit, and I also don't have the greatest reception from that direction due to a small mountain
[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> hey
[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> it will cross into the stratosphere now!
[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> the defined stratosphere which starts at 12000 m
[21:38] <jcoxon> Fair enough, I've been working on improving fldigis decode
[21:38] <sconklin> I'm using the special version of fldigi that sends the telemetry to the server.
[21:39] <jcoxon> Sounds like its an interference issue rather then a decode issue
[21:39] <sconklin> But this is pretty clearly a problem of overloading my receiver's front end
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> and as it crosses into the stratosphere, it also crosses the state border from Alabama to Georgia
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> 12100 m
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> we are in the stratosphere
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[21:42] <NigeyS> im using the lexington kentucky reciever on globaltuners.. way to much rtty to sift through!
[21:43] <sconklin> there's also another rtty station about 20 hz off from the balloon
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[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon how is vienna?
[21:45] <jcoxon> Am in Prague currently
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> prague is a nice city
[21:46] <NigeyS> argh this is horrid, to much traffic :(
[21:47] <jcoxon> Who is providing the data for the map?
[21:47] <NigeyS> bill
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[21:48] <NSS-WB9SBD> I'm Back
[21:48] <NigeyS> i was going to try but there's to much rtty on this reciever in kentucky :/
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS so globaltuners is like
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> a web-operated radio receiver?
[21:49] <NigeyS> pretty much yup
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[21:50] <Dan-K2VOL> Lunar_Lander, we have one here, that's occasionlly functional
[21:50] <Dan-K2VOL> most of the time it's tuned for balloons though
[21:50] <NigeyS> hey Dan
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> so it is no substitute for getting a real receiver?
[21:51] <NigeyS> nooo def not
[21:52] <NigeyS> www.nigey.co.uk/rtty.png
[21:52] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I saw that receivers are expensive
[21:52] <Lunar_Lander> is there a good tip for a receiver that is cheap? does someone sell a used receiver?
[21:53] <NigeyS> cann probably pick 1 up on ebay, ft-790R will go for under £100
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[21:53] <Lunar_Lander> so you have to have luck that one is on sale?
[21:53] <NigeyS> or buy a new ft-817 for about £450 :p
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> man I was knocked off my feet when I saw the price of that ICOM
[21:54] <NigeyS> lol
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> ham radio seems to be really expensive
[21:55] <Hibby> only if you make it expensive
[21:56] <gm8oti> Lunar_Lander, not if you build your own stuff ;-)
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> xd yeah
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> that is a question in the german ham exam
[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> if the radio equipment needs to meet the electric safety standards
[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> and the answer is
[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> "No, because amateur radio is supposed as a means of experimental radio which should allow the amateur to construct his own apparatus"
[21:57] <Hibby> gm8oti: callsign suggests you're scottish too...
[21:57] <gm8oti> yup to both
[21:58] <gm8oti> well adopted Scottish ;-)
[21:58] <NigeyS> ping fsphil
[21:59] <Hibby> lol
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[22:05] <Dan-K2VOL> what's the blue circle on the spacenear.us map
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[22:05] <NigeyS> i think its the horizon of the balloon
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[22:07] <Hibby> aye... mouseover the circle it tells you... horizon, or 5 degree for the one in air.
[22:07] <Hibby> rate of ascent is increasing too
[22:07] <fsphil> pong NigeyS
[22:08] <fsphil> oooh bill has launched
[22:10] <NigeyS> phil
[22:13] <Dan-K2VOL> Mousing over it only produces a questionmark cursor
[22:14] <Lunar_Lander> same here
[22:15] <Dan-K2VOL> what is green circle vs blue circle
[22:15] <NigeyS> green = 5degree
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[22:15] <Lunar_Lander> btw LOL there is a Roswell, Georgia just north of Atlanta
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[22:16] <Dan-K2VOL> 5 degrees above the horizon? radio or visual?
[22:16] <NigeyS> afaik its 5 degree visual
[22:16] <Dan-K2VOL> ok, that makes more sense
[22:22] <Hibby> anyone seen the fall to ground of the balloon on spacenear?
[22:23] <mattltm> -80 m/s!
[22:24] <NigeyS> thats def not right lol
[22:24] <Dan-K2VOL> hmm
[22:24] <mattltm> That's gona make a hole!
[22:24] <NigeyS> 43m/s now
[22:24] <Hibby> nice!
[22:25] <Lunar_Lander> lol
[22:26] <gm8oti> one point of duff data? how frequently does it send telemetry?
[22:31] <SpeedEvil> http://b3ta.com/board/10346406
[22:32] <NigeyS> haha nice one speedy
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[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> burst at 29804 m
[22:49] <W0OTM> iHAB-3 launches next weekend
[22:50] <fsphil|m> so it is
[22:53] <fsphil|m> at least they're getting it back this time
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[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> what do you think?
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> landing in GA or SC?
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[23:07] <fsphil|m> guessing near Greenwood
[23:09] <kamal> hi folks ... fyi, I'm copying bits of the telemetry in DOM and HELL here in California (when not buried by RTTY QRM anyway). 73 de KA6MAL.
[23:10] <fsphil|m> excellent
[23:10] <fsphil|m> there's a lot of RTTY over there tonight
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[23:14] <fsphil|m> I take that back, it's getting nowhere near Greenwood
[23:16] <kamal> oh, and also copying the CW (but yes, the RTTY contest is making it a bit rough)
[23:17] <fsphil|m> I had a go with globaltuners, wasn't able to copy anything unfortunately
[23:19] <fsphil|m> no new telemetry in a while
[23:19] <kamal> I just copied "...8349" on HELL
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[23:21] <fsphil|m> how clear is it coming through? it's a neat mode
[23:21] <kamal> not clear at all. yes I love the mode
[23:24] <kamal> copied "...4847" in HELL
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[23:28] <Lunar_Lander> NigeyS are you up to my plan description in a few minutes?
[23:28] <Lunar_Lander> or better
[23:29] <Lunar_Lander> would you like to hear it?
[23:29] <kamal> copied "... 3800" in HELL
[23:29] <NigeyS> give me an hour, just setting up a new server
[23:30] <fsphil|m> getting near the ground now
[23:31] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[23:32] <kamal> copied "...263?" in hell
[23:32] <Lunar_Lander> LOL it approaches "Apple Pie Ridge Road"
[23:32] <fsphil|m> there are quite a few trees around there
[23:32] <NigeyS> phil, this book recommends building a cub :|
[23:33] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[23:33] <fsphil|m> a cub?
[23:33] <Lunar_Lander> are there apple trees?
[23:33] <NigeyS> mfj cub
[23:34] <fsphil|m> for the foundation? nah
[23:34] <fsphil|m> though it would be a good experience
[23:34] <fsphil|m> assuming it works ;)
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[23:34] <NigeyS> hmm i think i'll pass for the mo
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[23:36] <fsphil|m> it would be a good choice for the intermediate assessments
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[23:36] <NigeyS> ahh okies
[23:36] <fsphil|m> yikes, maybe not. just looking at a picture of the PCB :)
[23:36] <NigeyS> how did yours go earlier ?
[23:36] <Lunar_Lander> hey
[23:37] <fsphil|m> http://www.g4ilo.com/images/cub_int.jpg
[23:37] <Lunar_Lander> did Bill's balloon send no update for 20 minutes?!
[23:37] <fsphil|m> spiffy! got 'em all done, and did a mock exam
[23:37] <NigeyS> sweet
[23:37] <NigeyS> btw that pcb .. sod that! lol
[23:37] <fsphil|m> yea!
[23:37] <fsphil|m> Lunar_Lander, I don't think anyone is receiving complete telemetry
[23:38] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:39] <fsphil|m> I built a simple little audio amplifier kit, did the job
[23:39] <Lunar_Lander> so it probably did already land on Apple Pie Ridge Road
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[23:40] <fsphil|m> well, somewhere around there :)
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[23:41] <Laurenceb_> just turned on tomorrow never dies on tv
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[23:41] <Laurenceb_> thought it was an apple product launch
[23:41] <fsphil|m> NigeyS, this is a good book for the foundation: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Foundation-Licence-Now-Alan-Betts/dp/1872309801/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298763659&sr=8-1
[23:41] <NigeyS> thast the 1 john sent me :D
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[23:41] <NigeyS> lol laurenceb
[23:42] <Hibby> haha
[23:42] <fsphil|m> James Bond on ITV, how odd
[23:43] <fsphil|m> also hamtests is great, can do some mock tests
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[23:48] <Hibby> hamtests is a cracking resource.
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[23:53] <fsphil|m> well, the balloon is definitely on the ground now
[23:53] <kamal> fsphil|m: yes, definitely -- I copied "...258" in HELL just a moment ago
[23:54] <fsphil|m> you're still getting it? impressive!
[23:54] <fsphil|m> though that could mean it's stuck in a tree
[23:54] <kamal> yes. its weak, and I haven't been able to get much from DOM, but I'm watching that too
[23:55] <kamal> partial DOM packet just received: 23:55:00,3426.16,-08312.74,250,06,8.34,23,000*46
[23:56] <kamal> ^^ (raw data, not checksum correct)
[23:56] <fsphil|m> bill and his awkward coordinates
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[23:58] <fsphil|m> 34.436, -083.212 -- assuming no errors
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[23:59] <fsphil|m> that seems about right
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