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[07:57] <m1x10> Good morning
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[08:54] <m1x10> avrdude: ERROR: address 0x10010 out of range at line 130 of atmega644p/ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex
[08:54] <m1x10> avrdude: write to file 'atmega644p/ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex' failed
[08:55] <m1x10> Help !
[09:05] <m1x10> Check my screen: http://imagebin.org/129201
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[10:16] <fsphil> might be easiest to ask the developers what the error means
[10:20] <m1x10> Hi fsphil
[10:20] <fsphil> morning :)
[10:20] <m1x10> still fighting :)
[10:20] <fsphil> you'll get there
[10:20] <m1x10> If i use the original bootloader (.hex) it gets uploaded fine.
[10:21] <m1x10> if i compile the source with winavr c compiler
[10:21] <fsphil> wouldn't be the first time I've banged my head against a wall, only to find a single but seriously obscure command fixes it instantly (windows server 2003 ntp sync .. evil evil)
[10:21] <m1x10> the new .hex is 1kb larger and fails to upload
[10:21] <fsphil> hmm
[10:21] <m1x10> I believe the compiler does something odd
[10:22] <m1x10> gcc 4.3.3
[10:22] <fsphil> the compiler will have a huge amount of options, levels of optimisation, that sort of thing - you'd need to find out what options they used to build the one that works
[10:23] <fsphil> although all that should be in the makefile
[10:23] <m1x10> I know the options. I have the makefile !
[10:24] <m1x10> I only wonder with what compiler were the sources built
[10:24] <m1x10> gcc 3.x.x or gcc 4.x.x
[10:24] <fsphil> yea, that can make a difference sometimes
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[10:25] <m1x10> the original hex could be compiled with gcc3
[10:25] <m1x10> while im compiling it with gcc4
[10:25] <fsphil> the version I did was with gcc 4.5.1
[10:25] <m1x10> you took the sanguino sources and compiled them with gcc4.5.1?
[10:25] <fsphil> still, it should still flash even if the compile was different
[10:27] <fsphil> the problem might be avrdude
[10:29] <m1x10> any other way to upload?
[10:30] <m1x10> someone at sparkfun told me a similar issue where avrdude failed while avrstudio did it
[10:30] <m1x10> i have avrstudio
[10:30] <fsphil> try putting an :i after the hex file, or example: -U flash:w:rom.hex:i
[10:30] <fsphil> or=for
[10:31] <m1x10> but i dont know how to use it
[10:31] <m1x10> ok, wait
[10:32] <m1x10> I just do -U flash:w:file
[10:32] <m1x10> is that wrong?
[10:32] <fsphil> I'm not sure, I see the :i in a few places
[10:32] <fsphil> I think it tells avrdude what format the hex file is
[10:32] <fsphil> intel format I think
[10:32] <m1x10> avrdude recognises it as intel
[10:32] <m1x10> automatically
[10:33] <fsphil> ah, then that won't help
[10:35] <m1x10> can u compile for me the source ?
[10:35] <m1x10> using the new crystal freq
[10:35] <m1x10> ?
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[11:02] <m1x10> ping SpeedEvil !
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[11:03] <fsphil> I did -- that was the link I sent you yesterday
[11:05] <m1x10> ah
[11:05] <m1x10> can u post it again
[11:05] <m1x10> i though thats sanslogic is some big company:p
[11:05] <m1x10> thought*
[11:06] <m1x10> ok got it
[11:07] <fsphil> nah, my little website ;)
[11:08] <m1x10> haha
[11:08] <m1x10> the name is tricky
[11:08] <m1x10> anyway..still nothing
[11:08] <m1x10> the hex file is exactly as mines
[11:09] <m1x10> avrdude: ERROR: address 0x10010 out of range at line 130 of ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex
[11:10] <m1x10> do u know how to upload it using avrstudio?
[11:10] <m1x10> avrstudio doesnt seem to find the usbtiny
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[11:14] <fsphil> I've never used avrstudio
[11:15] <fsphil> don't have windows
[11:16] <m1x10> :p
[11:25] <m1x10> bye all. Coffee time!
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[12:45] <GW8RAK> This is me signing off from work for the last time this year. Have a good Christmas all.
[12:47] <fsphil> you too GW8RAK!
[12:51] <GW8RAK> Just needed to move a few bits of paper around then found all the little jobs which I'd promised to do before the break. Oh well, I'll come in next week for a bit. :(
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[12:52] <GW8RAK> That's it, I'm off. Have fun.
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[15:07] Action: Laurenceb is having annoying oscillation issues with his active ant again
[15:08] <Laurenceb> seems with my lab power supply theres some rf leaking out of the supply box
[15:08] <Laurenceb> hopefully the sheilding is better once i get the sdr supply done :S
[15:10] <SpeedEvil> watch-batteries FTW
[15:18] <Laurenceb> heh one option
[15:19] <SpeedEvil> I found a _huge_ pile of trashed PDA prototypes, and stripped the 2032 batteries from them.
[15:19] <SpeedEvil> I stacked them up neatly, and wrapped them in tape, to store.
[15:19] <SpeedEvil> After getting a 300VDC shock, I started alternating polarity
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[15:39] <m1x10> Hi
[15:39] <m1x10> who can help me with usbtiny and avrstudio ?
[15:39] <m1x10> avrdude does not want to upload the bootloader through usbtiny
[15:40] <SpeedEvil> Umm...
[15:40] <SpeedEvil> ##avr?
[15:40] <SpeedEvil> I forget
[15:41] <m1x10> what is ##avr?
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> A channel about AVRs
[15:41] <m1x10> oh k
[15:41] <m1x10> ok
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[15:51] <m1x10> well
[15:51] <SpeedEvil> Also - have you checked ##electronics
[15:51] <SpeedEvil> some may have a clue there
[15:51] <m1x10> C:\atmega644p>avrdude -p m644p -c usbtiny -U flash:w:ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex
[15:51] <m1x10> avrdude: ERROR: address 0x10010 out of range at line 130 of ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex
[15:52] <m1x10> 0x10010 = 65552
[15:52] <m1x10> atmega644p has only 64k of flash
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> No clue, sorry
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> other than you should check the hex file is correct manually
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> if it isn't - fix it
[15:53] <m1x10> what to know if its correct?
[15:53] <SpeedEvil> Work out the ranges it should have
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[16:07] Nick change: stilldavid -> Divadllits
[16:09] <m1x10> Ok, Solved
[16:12] <SpeedEvil> :)
[16:13] <Laurenceb> cant get it to stop oscillating :(
[16:14] <m1x10> I reduced --section-start=.text=0xF800
[16:14] <m1x10> to 0xF400
[16:15] <m1x10> gave a few bytes space for the bootloader space in the mcu
[16:15] <eroomde> Divadllits: welcome to the cool kid's club
[16:15] <Divadllits> you'd fit right in in #sparkfun right now :)
[16:16] <Divadllits> just some IRC shenanigans.
[16:16] <fsphil> Divadllits, sounds welsh
[16:16] <Laurenceb> or maybe i can...
[16:17] <Laurenceb> lnas are so annoying
[16:17] <Divadllits> fsphil, needs more consonants? I've never tried to read Welsh actually.
[16:17] <m1x10> fsphil
[16:17] <Divadllits> doubt I could pronounce anything..
[16:17] <m1x10> I did it :)
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[16:18] <fsphil> just read that m1x10, fantastic
[16:18] <fsphil> does it work?
[16:18] <m1x10> still didnt upload any code
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: this is still the dead-bugged version?
[16:18] <m1x10> will do now
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[16:19] <m1x10> fsphil: http://imagebin.org/129246
[16:19] Nick change: TraumaPrincess -> TraumaPony
[16:19] <fsphil> nice
[16:19] <m1x10> the bootloader is some bytes larger, so I had to increase the space in the flash mem
[16:21] Nick change: Divadllits -> racecar
[16:21] <Laurenceb> yes
[16:21] <Laurenceb> i used tons of copper tape
[16:21] <Laurenceb> seems the oscillation was caused by rf leaking into the bench supply again
[16:21] <m1x10> so now I guess I have to put the 14mhz osc
[16:22] <m1x10> cause arduino cannot upload code :(
[16:22] <Laurenceb> i havent get a pc setup to reflash the avr on it - its going to be powered off an io pin
[16:22] <Laurenceb> so the case is open and im running some crock clips in
[16:22] <Laurenceb> seems they are leaching some rf
[16:23] <Laurenceb> in hindsight - dont use 6GHz lnas
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[16:30] <m1x10> mhh
[16:30] <m1x10> Cant upload code
[16:31] <m1x10> fsphil: what else to change somewhere?
[16:33] <m1x10> lol
[16:33] <m1x10> worked
[16:33] <fsphil> different crystal?
[16:33] <m1x10> yes
[16:33] <m1x10> running my code nicely
[16:33] <m1x10> :P
[16:34] <m1x10> finally now I can start playing with the baudrates !
[16:34] <m1x10> all that story just for the baudrates!
[16:34] <fsphil> plus you can program directly in future :)
[16:34] <fsphil> without the bootloader
[16:35] <m1x10> what?
[16:35] <m1x10> dont confuse me !
[16:35] <m1x10> :)
[16:35] <fsphil> muhaha
[16:35] <m1x10> lol
[16:35] <m1x10> evol
[16:37] Nick change: racecar -> stilldavid
[16:37] Nick change: stilldavid -> divadllits
[16:37] <m1x10> I had to change the F_CPU for the arduino IDE
[16:43] Action: Laurenceb is spending christmas getting pissed and listening to deadmau5 at full volume
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[16:47] <SpeedEvil> not a bad plan
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[16:50] <m1x10> mh
[16:50] <m1x10> 38400
[16:50] <m1x10> 57600 not working
[16:50] <m1x10> :(
[16:58] <m1x10> lol
[16:58] <m1x10> 115200
[16:58] <fsphil> working?
[16:58] <m1x10> yeah babe
[16:58] <m1x10> :)
[16:58] <m1x10> but let me check the picture
[16:59] <m1x10> wait
[17:02] <m1x10> fsphil: http://imagebin.org/129257 :p
[17:02] <fsphil> lol
[17:02] <fsphil> looks good to me
[17:02] <m1x10> so we consider this matter closed? :p
[17:03] <fsphil> take a few more :p
[17:03] <m1x10> haha
[17:03] <m1x10> it moved the pic from the camera to the microSD a bit fast :p
[17:04] <m1x10> Im waiting some 10cm cables 2mm-2.54mm to arrive. Then I will correctly wire the camera
[17:04] <m1x10> and move it anywhere i like
[17:04] <m1x10> Now I have the 2mm pins of the camera stretched to fit to a 2.54mm breadboard
[17:05] <m1x10> somewhat awkward
[17:05] <m1x10> how u tell it
[17:09] <m1x10> lol
[17:09] <m1x10> look
[17:09] <m1x10> http://imagebin.org/129258
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[17:13] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUmvPgH5iD0 <- so epic
[17:18] <m1x10> ok counted
[17:18] <m1x10> 30 secs to move the pic
[17:19] <m1x10> at chunks of 80 byte each
[17:20] <m1x10> fsphil: http://imagebin.org/129263
[17:21] <fsphil> nice speakers
[17:21] <m1x10> lol
[17:22] Nick change: divadllits -> stilldavid
[17:23] <m1x10> for some strange reason
[17:23] <m1x10> when my code runs
[17:23] <m1x10> console shows a '0'
[17:23] <m1x10> before my program starts to print things out
[17:27] <m1x10> ok it takes 19sec to move it
[17:27] <m1x10> with the printing commands it takes 30sec
[17:33] <fsphil> I wonder which bit is slower-- the camera or the sd card
[17:33] <m1x10> sd for sure :P
[17:34] <m1x10> my microSD breakout works with a level converter. Its on 5v.
[17:34] <fsphil> yea, thinking that - at 115200 baud it should take about 6 seconds to send the image
[17:34] <m1x10> i have ordered a normal 3v breakout
[17:34] <m1x10> to skip the level converter chip
[17:35] <m1x10> see: http://yhst-27389313707334.stores.yahoo.net/micaad.html
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[17:37] <Laurenceb> does ubuntu allow multisession cdr?
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[18:00] <SpeedEvil> you mean authoring?
[18:00] <SpeedEvil> reading has been in the kernel driver a looooooooooooooooooooooooong time
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[18:07] <m1x10> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg918o_extreme-protest-against-the-govern-bucharest-romania_news
[18:19] <fsphil> gravity always wins
[18:22] <Laurenceb> oh theres an option to create one
[18:22] <Laurenceb> checkbox isnt selected by default
[18:30] <Laurenceb> hmm looks like the lna starts oscillating as soon as i connect the bench supply
[18:30] <Laurenceb> unless i have it at the other end of the desk
[18:30] <Laurenceb> theres a choke in the way but it does have some parasitic capacitance
[18:33] <m1x10> are there any big changes in the predictor project?
[18:42] <Burninate> I've been looking into the solar glider, and it would appear that one of the comments I saw on here is incorrect. The super/hyper AVA Pro-E appears to be able to sustain level flight at 5-6w/lb. Now I just need to source *lightweight* 15%+ efficient thinfilm panels, design a camera fuselage, and clear some funding
[18:45] <SpeedEvil> It depends on sink rate, and your prop.
[18:45] <SpeedEvil> Get those right, ...
[18:47] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjHUDYiQINQ
[18:47] <Laurenceb> interesting thing
[18:47] <Burninate> the remark was that 10w/lb was an absolute hard minimum - yay for progress
[18:47] <SpeedEvil> I note for example that conventional Si cells are about 200w/Kg
[18:47] <SpeedEvil> If you consider only the bare Si cell.
[18:47] <Laurenceb> theres powerfilm panels
[18:48] <SpeedEvil> I was considering something like an inflated PET tube, with cells in, on a simple 1D gimbal.
[18:48] <Laurenceb> heh
[18:48] <Laurenceb> if you just want daytime it looks easy to me
[18:48] <SpeedEvil> 50W/Kg isn't that hard. But crashes will make you a sad panda.
[18:48] <Laurenceb> wel "possible"
[18:51] <Laurenceb> but yeah look at powerfilm
[18:51] <SpeedEvil> And yes.
[18:52] <Burninate> odd. I looked at it before and could only find heavy stuff. I look at it today and there's a 28w battery charger that weighs 800g
[18:52] <SpeedEvil> Powerfilm or similar is probably more sane
[18:52] <Laurenceb> iirc powerfilm and some of the prop motor combos off hobby king would work
[18:52] <Laurenceb> for a dumb direct sunlight plane
[18:52] <SpeedEvil> Also - make sure that the weight is real
[18:53] <Laurenceb> but iirc its already been done on rc-groups
[18:53] <SpeedEvil> A lot of venfors don't really care about the accuracy of the weight spec
[18:53] <SpeedEvil> so don't really check it.
[18:53] <Burninate> this one makes more sense: http://www.buyenergyefficient.org/powerfilmfoldable30wattsolarchargerf15-1800.aspx
[18:53] <Burninate> chop it up and rewire on the wing for flexibility
[18:54] <Laurenceb> or just buy bare cells
[18:57] <Laurenceb> but this has been done on rc-groups
[18:57] <Laurenceb> last time i checked no-one had managed to get rc gear on as well
[18:57] <Burninate> lol http://www.oksolar.com/pv/cells_flex1.htm
[18:57] <Laurenceb> thats what you want
[18:58] <Burninate> "These modules do not have UV-stabilized surface." means they'll last how long?
[18:58] <Laurenceb> weeks maybe
[18:59] <SpeedEvil> http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Cps-Solar-Cps-ink-Supplies/Flexible-Solar-Panels-/_i.html?_fsub=10&_sid=18696911&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
[19:02] <SpeedEvil> http://www.gizmag.com/top-10-things-cant-have-christmas-2010/17339/
[19:02] <SpeedEvil> I wonder what happens if you replace the obvious oodleohorsepower engine and prop, with a tail.
[19:02] <SpeedEvil> It should get really quite good mileage.
[19:02] <SpeedEvil> of the shark
[19:02] <m1x10> mhhh
[19:02] <m1x10> I got a question
[19:03] <m1x10> If I run the mcu at 3v3 it will run at 10mhz
[19:03] <m1x10> that means I need a 10mhz oscillator?
[19:04] <SpeedEvil> Or lower, if that's the maximum speed
[19:04] <SpeedEvil> you may be able to use a RC or other internal oscillator too
[19:05] <m1x10> atmega644p datasheet says if i power it with 3v3 it will operate at 10mhz
[19:05] <m1x10> at 5v it can operate at 16mhz
[19:05] <Laurenceb> lol the tv
[19:05] <Burninate> SpeedEvil: just $100k? It's going to be a white Christmas in Miami
[19:05] <m1x10> but 10mhz frequency makes the baudrates of the usart to have big error %
[19:06] <SpeedEvil> Burninate: yes - that was also my thought
[19:06] <m1x10> the next lower with 0.0% error is a osc with freq = 7.3728
[19:06] <m1x10> ping fsphil
[19:07] <Burninate> Man
[19:08] <Burninate> it's been what, 5 years since that South Park episode came out?
[19:08] <Burninate> and already: http://www.gizmag.com/top-10-things-cant-have-christmas-2010/17339/picture/126714/
[19:08] <Laurenceb> the 152inch tv is cool
[19:08] <Laurenceb> or you could use a projector
[19:11] <Laurenceb> http://ipmenu.com/archive/AUI_2001100012.pdf
[19:16] <stilldavid> w00t! just got my ZP envelope in the mail!
[19:16] Action: stilldavid does happy balloon dane
[19:16] <stilldavid> er, dance
[19:16] <Laurenceb> oh nice
[19:17] <Laurenceb> where from
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[19:41] <stilldavid> global western
[19:44] <stilldavid> looks really slick
[19:44] <stilldavid> I really want to take it out and inflate it with a leaf blower or something
[19:47] <stilldavid> Laurenceb, good idea/bad idea?
[19:49] <SpeedEvil> probably a bad idea
[19:50] <SpeedEvil> It's gonna be impossible to fold it back up
[19:53] <stilldavid> heh, fair point
[19:54] <eroomde> badbbfgfrmoreover they attract cuts and nicks
[19:54] <eroomde> whoopsie
[19:54] <stilldavid> uh, I agree. I think?
[19:55] <eroomde> gnu screen messed up
[19:55] <stilldavid> but I want to so bad! /whinyvoice
[19:55] <SpeedEvil> Order another one, and have fun with this one.
[19:55] <stilldavid> got a spare $300?
[19:55] <stilldavid> actually, looking at this thing I think I could make my own
[19:56] <stilldavid> if this has any sort of success I think I'll try
[19:56] <SpeedEvil> I spent much of today trying to get through to my bank, trying to convince them not to charge me an unauthorised overdraft fee for $3.
[19:56] <SpeedEvil> so, no.
[19:56] <stilldavid> I feel your pain. I'm still waiting for the second payment check to clear :-/
[19:57] <stilldavid> plus the whole "holidays" thing that always has terrible timing :(
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[19:59] Action: SpeedEvil needs to get this insulation done.
[19:59] <SpeedEvil> No energy to do it though. :/
[19:59] <SpeedEvil> I can't afford to heat without it - so am using electric blankets.
[19:59] <SpeedEvil> Which are great - but...
[19:59] <SpeedEvil> meh.
[19:59] Action: SpeedEvil goes back to reading about problems with the patent system.
[20:01] <eroomde> stilldavid: they take a majagabazzillion man hours to make
[20:01] <eroomde> seriously
[20:01] <stilldavid> hm. so it's worth paying someone to do it?
[20:01] <eroomde> it's astonishing how much harder they are to hand make than they look
[20:01] <SpeedEvil> Or a really clever machine
[20:01] <stilldavid> I'm having a hard time finding a mylar supplier online, too..
[20:01] <eroomde> speaking from experience
[20:01] <SpeedEvil> A 100m*2 table helps too
[20:02] <stilldavid> oh? how about a huge unused shipping floor?
[20:02] <SpeedEvil> If it's really clean.
[20:02] <eroomde> stilldavid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK80MXHQ5hA
[20:03] <eroomde> we have since made a robotic continuous seam welding machine to speed this up
[20:03] <eroomde> but had to mothball it due to loosing lab space
[20:03] <russss> pretty
[20:03] <eroomde> we have 3 ZPs in the lab that'll take about 100kg to 25km though
[20:04] <stilldavid> with many tanks of helium, no doubt
[20:04] <russss> incidentally, how did you design the cutting patterns to build that balloon?
[20:04] <stilldavid> that's awesome, though
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[20:04] <eroomde> russss: parametrically given the 'ideal balloon shape'
[20:04] <SpeedEvil> eroomde: Now, all you need is a parachute, a way to call the media, a small eroomde shaped pressure-vessel, an oxygen cylinder, and profit!
[20:05] <eroomde> russss: python script to generage pdfs for the printer from that
[20:05] <eroomde> but... lost in the sands of hard-drive time
[20:05] <russss> I was doing a similar thing for our blimp and I was surprised there seemed to be no "standard" way of slicing up a 3D model into patterns
[20:06] <eroomde> our script was a diy job
[20:06] <russss> that's basically what I did, except my python outputs DXF
[20:06] <russss> :P
[20:08] <eroomde> but yep that little one in the vid took 4 people i think 4 16 hr days
[20:09] <eroomde> just very, very faffy and delicate
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[20:18] <fsphil> this strong wind doesn't look like it's in a hurry to go away -- all the predictions still have me landing in scotland
[20:20] <m1x10> http://code.google.com/p/littleblackbox/
[20:22] <m1x10> fsphil: I think I got a problem. Running mcu at 3v3 it needs a crystal upto 10mhz. At 10mhz the 115200 baudrate got much error %. The next lower freq is 7.3728 !! :(
[20:23] <fsphil> aye, that's the frequency I'm using
[20:23] <m1x10> !!
[20:23] <fsphil> the 14.x might work, but you'd be over-clocking it :)
[20:23] <m1x10> yeah
[20:23] <m1x10> so u got crystals at 7.3mhz
[20:23] <SpeedEvil> what is the error %?
[20:23] <SpeedEvil> You can have up to ~3% without issue
[20:28] <fsphil> the uart cameras seem to be a lot fussier
[20:28] <m1x10> yeah
[20:32] <m1x10> fsphil where did u find those 7mhz crystals?
[20:32] <m1x10> local market?
[20:33] <fsphil> sparkfun actually, got them along with the c328 camera
[20:33] <m1x10> sparkfun does not have them
[20:34] <fsphil> hmm.. lemme see, I might be wrong
[20:35] <m1x10> ok
[20:35] <fsphil> ah, your right - it was rapid online
[20:35] <m1x10> i should look at the local market
[20:36] <m1x10> anyway
[20:36] <m1x10> eyes closing
[20:36] <m1x10> cu tommorow !
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[22:45] <laurence_> hi
[22:45] Nick change: laurence_ -> Laurenceb_
[22:45] <SpeedEvil> ih
[22:46] <Laurenceb_> think i worked out the oscillation issue
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> Congrats!
[22:46] <Laurenceb_> if its oscillating at a few Ghz then the rf just leaks through the filtering
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[22:46] <Laurenceb_> and into the bench power supply
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> and then gets rectified?
[22:47] <Laurenceb_> no, then just radiated
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> umm
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> why doesn't it radiate form the psu leads?
[22:47] <Laurenceb_> they are sheilded
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> ah
[22:48] <Laurenceb_> hopefully this shouldnt be an issue with the usb
[22:48] <Laurenceb_> as theres alu case, and ferrite on the usb cable
[22:49] <SpeedEvil> So you mean you're getting oscillation from the radiated emissions from the PSU getting picked up by the antenna?
[22:51] <Laurenceb_> yes
[22:51] <Laurenceb_> presumably at a few ghz - i cant pick it up
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> Add a 1R in each lead inside the case, and add assorted caps behind it?
[22:51] <Laurenceb_> there excess current and signs of loads of rfi
[22:52] <Laurenceb_> the display on the bench supply goes mad
[22:52] <Laurenceb_> i can make it work by moving the ant a few m down the desk
[22:53] <Laurenceb_> the lna has high gain to 6GHz so it could be really high
[22:55] <SpeedEvil> No 6GHz scope? :)
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[22:56] <Laurenceb_> heh
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[23:20] <eroomde> hi jcoxon
[23:20] <eroomde> long day?
[23:20] <jcoxon> hey eroomde yeah
[23:20] <jcoxon> finished at 22:15
[23:20] <eroomde> ouch
[23:20] <jcoxon> just winding down before bed then have to be in for 8
[23:21] <jcoxon> yeah not good, lots of sick patients - though only one died
[23:22] <eroomde> :s
[23:23] <jcoxon> new day tomorrow
[23:23] <jcoxon> it just starts again :-)
[23:23] <eroomde> is that fewer than usual?
[23:23] <jcoxon> most days are okay
[23:29] <eroomde> turn to alcohol for the winding down, I would
[23:30] <jcoxon> nah
[23:30] <jcoxon> family guy
[23:30] <jcoxon> got my gps bee working with a nice breakout
[23:30] <jcoxon> really please as its nice and secure and ublox when they work are awesome
[23:30] <jcoxon> but seeedstudio have sold out :-(
[23:31] <eroomde> forcing you to takea christmas break
[23:31] <jcoxon> hehe
[23:35] <jcoxon> nah never take a break
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[23:49] <jcoxon> eroomde, we've cracked the us market regarding dl-fldigi and spacenear.us
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[23:58] <Darkside> hey juxta
[23:58] <Darkside> how about a new years day launch? :P
[23:59] <juxta> hey Darkside
[23:59] <juxta> I won't be here around the new year
[23:59] <juxta> but I have a launch scheduled for pretty soon
[23:59] <juxta> :)
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