highaltitude.log.20101128

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[00:07] <fsphil> well that was the longest reboot I've ever seen
[00:07] <jonsowman> haha
[00:08] <fsphil> I like openwrt, but sometimes it's just a royal pain in the butt
[00:09] <jonsowman> can't say I've played with openwrt
[00:09] Action: Randomskk enjoys openwrt
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[00:10] <juxta> fsphil, i prefer tomato over openwrt
[00:11] <fsphil> yet to try that juxta, may give it a spin
[00:11] <jonsowman> I'm using tomato at the moment
[00:11] <jonsowman> works well for my purposes, still intend to play with openwrt at some point though
[00:11] <Randomskk> openwrt is more hardcore
[00:12] <Randomskk> by which I mean, will screw you over more often
[00:12] <jonsowman> Randomskk: hehe
[00:12] <juxta> hehe, agreed there
[00:12] <juxta> i switched to tomato as it's nice and lightweight
[00:12] <jonsowman> it's quite pretty
[00:12] <Randomskk> tomato didn't do everything I wanted, though I can't remember what it was that it didn't do
[00:12] <juxta> that too
[00:12] <jonsowman> Randomskk: something about stats no?
[00:12] <fsphil> yea - I'm trying to stop openwrt nat'ing my IP subnet, but it doesn't want to play
[00:12] <Randomskk> jonsowman: ah maybe
[00:13] <fsphil> I like on the wrt54g that you can setup each port on the back as an individual interface
[00:14] <jonsowman> yea
[00:14] <jonsowman> I've got the wrt54gl
[00:14] <jonsowman> after getting bored of searching for the 32mb wrt54gs
[00:15] Action: Randomskk also has a wrt54gl
[00:17] <fsphil> pppoe is working well, although only with ipv4
[00:18] Action: Randomskk wants ipv6
[00:18] <Randomskk> I should probably upgrade my openwrt
[00:18] <Randomskk> running kamikaze iirc
[00:20] <Randomskk> what could possibly go wrong
[00:20] <fsphil> end of the world, cats and dogs .. yadda yadda...
[00:21] <fsphil> backfire is pretty slick
[00:21] <fsphil> though installing kmod-ipv6 took an hour, a bit worrying
[00:23] <Randomskk> I really really want ipv6 internally
[00:23] <Randomskk> if it can do that I'll be very happy
[00:23] <juxta> I'm pretty sure my router is still running kernel 2.4, that's somewhat in need of updating
[00:24] <fsphil> I had a tunnel running with HE for a while
[00:24] <fsphil> all done on the linksys
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[00:24] <fsphil> my current isp does ipv6 natively, though I can't get it working
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[00:25] <jonsowman> my current isp is Cambridge Uni
[00:25] <Randomskk> mine doesn't, yet, annoyingly
[00:25] <Randomskk> but they are bloody fast
[00:25] <jonsowman> I don't think there's much I can do
[00:25] <Randomskk> jonsowman: JANET technically I guess?
[00:25] <jonsowman> yea, suppose
[00:26] <Randomskk> just tested on speedtest, 44Mb/s down, 37Mb/s up
[00:26] <Randomskk> seriously suspect limit could be there end
[00:26] <Randomskk> their
[00:26] <Randomskk> nom nom nom speed
[00:26] <Randomskk> but I would be happy with ipv4 outside my router, ipv6 internally
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[00:27] <Randomskk> I guess I could also do a tunnel
[00:27] <juxta> wow, that is quite fast
[00:27] <juxta> is that through a WRT54G?
[00:27] <fsphil> that's silly fast
[00:27] <juxta> I wouldnt have thought it could handle so much traffic
[00:27] <fsphil> and here was me chuffed with my 10mbit/s upload
[00:27] <jonsowman> hehe
[00:27] <jonsowman> uni internet is great
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[00:28] <fsphil> reboot again...
[00:28] <jonsowman> juxta: yea the wrt54gl manages very well actually
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[00:28] <jonsowman> weeeboout? lol
[00:32] <Randomskk> I wouldn't have thought the wrt54gl was the limiting factor
[00:32] <Randomskk> technically it should be 100mbit
[00:32] <Randomskk> but sharing it with other users etc
[00:32] <Randomskk> also maybe the wrt54gl is capping out there, can't tell
[00:32] <Randomskk> (oh, and I'm also using a fair bit of bandwidth to continuously stream video from my camera to my desktop)
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[00:35] <fsphil> aah better
[00:36] <NigeyS> wb phil, stop ko'ing ure router lol
[00:37] <fsphil> what better way to spend a Saturday night? ;-)
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[00:42] <NigeyS> lol
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[00:55] <SpeedEvil> http://ircz.de/p/df589111d1decbabea850ffcf8f76630616eeb1f
[00:57] <Darkside> juxta:
[00:58] <Darkside> freaking LOLLLLLLLLL at grants video
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[00:58] <NigeyS> SpeedEvil, wtf is that? lol
[00:58] <NigeyS> hey Darkside
[00:58] <Darkside> hi NigeyS
[00:59] <SpeedEvil> It's a ballon landing/takeoff going wrong
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[01:00] <NigeyS> SpeedEvil, ahh ill take a look
[01:00] <Darkside> what? i thought running into things was completely normal for hot air balloon launches >_>
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[01:01] <fsphil> lol
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[01:43] <NigeyS> brb
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[08:21] <jcoxon> morning all
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[09:02] <jcoxon> morning spikeuk
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[09:30] <Upu_> morning
[09:30] Nick change: Upu_ -> Upu
[09:33] <eroomde> morning jcoxon
[09:33] <jcoxon> eroomde: hehe exciting plan...
[09:34] <jcoxon> still away?
[09:34] <jcoxon> http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/wiki/doku.php/missions:atlas:spatlas
[09:36] <eroomde> jcoxon: go ahead
[09:36] <jcoxon> oh the link has the plan
[09:38] <eroomde> you're gonna make a super-pressure!?
[09:38] <eroomde> yes not homeward for a bit yet
[09:38] <eroomde> then i think i might visit my friend in berlin as easyjet is being super-generous
[09:38] <jcoxon> so use party mylar balloons
[09:39] <eroomde> you reckon they're up to it?
[09:39] <jcoxon> they'll 'slightly super-pressure'
[09:39] <eroomde> i reckon you'll end up with splatlas
[09:39] <eroomde> (c) 2010 ed moore
[09:39] <Upu> haha
[09:39] <Upu> I get it
[09:40] <jcoxon> eroomde: already got that name - nice try
[09:40] <jcoxon> look at the link...
[09:40] <jcoxon> atlas:splatlas
[09:40] <jcoxon> :-p
[09:40] <jcoxon> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ayaui88dHHA/SihtyLk0zII/AAAAAAAAAZA/kIT29Qb5ltw/s1600-h/staticmap.gif
[09:41] <Upu> given the time of year may I propose this :
[09:41] <jcoxon> thats one of the flights the guys in the states pulled off
[09:41] <Upu> http://www.bulkballoons.com/store/p/81713-Christmas-Balloons-OUT-OF-STOCK-Snowman-SuperShape-Doo-Dads-18-inch-X-29-inch-Mylar-Balloon-1-each-.html
[09:41] <eroomde> atlas:spatlas
[09:41] <eroomde> without the l
[09:41] <jcoxon> oh poo
[09:41] <jcoxon> okay you win
[09:41] <eroomde> money please
[09:41] <eroomde> actually i owe you a pub dinner anyway
[09:41] <eroomde> so call it square
[09:41] <jcoxon> upu its out of stock...
[09:41] <eroomde> are you still in worthing for a while?
[09:42] <jcoxon> till august
[09:42] <Upu> I know image used for comedy effect only
[09:43] <eroomde> jcoxon: ok cool. plenty of time for more drinks in the downs
[09:43] <jcoxon> oh yes
[09:43] <jcoxon> i've got more time now as well - rotated jobs
[09:44] <jcoxon> eroomde: with a low flying flight would a dipole be sensible rather than a 1/4 wave GP?
[09:50] <eroomde> hmm
[09:50] <eroomde> how low flying?
[09:51] <eroomde> but yes i see your logic
[09:51] <eroomde> or a slim-jim or j-pole
[09:51] <eroomde> or a big wheel!!!
[09:51] <eroomde> weeeeeeeeeeeee!
[09:52] <jcoxon> need to be as lightweight as possible
[09:53] <eroomde> dipole then i guess
[09:54] <jcoxon> hehe i know this flight is mad - just a bit of fun, and if it fails then hey ho
[09:55] <eroomde> yeah that could be really fun actually
[09:55] <eroomde> maybe do a southewards flight
[09:55] <eroomde> i'll track it over the downs for you
[09:57] <jcoxon> interesting if it is smaller then 2m in theory its a small balloon and doesn't require permission
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[09:58] <jcoxon> we could launch from down south
[09:58] <jcoxon> but i thought over christmas would be fun
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[09:59] <eroomde> jcoxon: yes indeed
[09:59] <eroomde> good idea
[09:59] <eroomde> or maybe fling it towards steve, avoiding london
[10:00] <jcoxon> good idea to which? christmas launch or sussex launch
[10:00] <jcoxon> i see the advantage of the mobile phone payload though
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[10:01] <jcoxon> they made a payload yagi to extend the range
[10:01] <eroomde> ?
[10:01] <eroomde> christmas and sussex
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[10:01] <eroomde> the mobile yagi was a neat trick yeah
[10:02] <jcoxon> but i think its a little naughty
[10:02] <eroomde> yes
[10:02] <eroomde> and we are good at radio
[10:02] <jcoxon> now here is a question - night or day launch
[10:03] <eroomde> don't mind
[10:03] <jcoxon> in theory its should be resistant to a little temperature change
[10:03] <eroomde> i'm used to cold temps now :)
[10:03] <jcoxon> but i guess if it got too cold helium would shrink and we'll lose the super-pressureness
[10:03] <eroomde> ooo garrow's law is back
[10:03] <eroomde> how about a dawn launch?
[10:04] <jcoxon> yeah, launch would be easy :-p
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[10:04] <jcoxon> payload on, tie on balloons purchased from shop - some helium, let go
[10:05] <eroomde> agreed
[10:05] <jcoxon> (thats a minus)
[10:05] <eroomde> and i was thinking in sweden that switching to 200g payloads on 500g balloons for a bit would be a good. if only for hygeinic reasons
[10:05] <jonsowman> morning all
[10:06] <jcoxon> so onboard with this then eroomde?
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[10:06] <eroomde> jcoxon: also - you remember a few years ago we discussed a northern lights balloon mission? stabilised 360 degree panoriamic mission funded my nat geographic?
[10:06] <eroomde> jcoxon: yes onboard
[10:06] <jcoxon> yes
[10:06] <eroomde> sounds like a laugh
[10:06] <eroomde> i am keener than ever
[10:06] <eroomde> on aurora hab
[10:06] <jcoxon> great - thought you'll come back with that idea
[10:07] <jcoxon> right bbiab
[10:07] <eroomde> ok see you
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[10:07] <eroomde> morning jonsowman
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[10:08] <jonsowman> hi eroomde
[10:08] <jonsowman> you home?
[10:08] <eroomde> briefly yup
[10:08] <jonsowman> oh cool, where are you off to next?
[10:09] <eroomde> berlin
[10:09] <jonsowman> nice
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[11:19] <vk5gr> juxta are you about?
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[14:42] <NigeyMoby> Fooking nora Its cold out!
[14:42] <jonsowman> 0C here
[14:42] <jonsowman> so says Ubuntu anyway
[14:43] <NigeyMoby> -2 ere but the wind isn't helping
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[14:44] <AndChat-> Gay
[14:44] <jonsowman> hehe
[14:45] Nick change: AndChat- -> NigeyMoby
[14:45] <NigeyMoby> Always cuts off if I get a sms
[14:45] <jonsowman> ah right
[14:45] <jonsowman> what phone are you on?
[14:46] <NigeyMoby> HTC hero
[14:46] <jonsowman> :)
[14:47] <NigeyMoby> Upgrade is due in 3 weeks dunno wat to go for
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[14:59] <NigeyMoby> Lovely stable connection today *sigh*
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[15:00] <jonsowman> hehe
[15:01] <NigeyMoby> See its contagious lol
[15:01] <jonsowman> I could make irssi ignore join/quit messages but I don't think it's a good idea on the whole
[15:02] <jonsowman> you could always use irssi :) or an irc bouncer
[15:07] <NigeyMoby> Think ill set ezbounce up on my server later
[15:08] <NigeyMoby> Wasn't will attempting a launch this w.end?
[15:08] <jonsowman> I think it was called off
[15:08] <jonsowman> can't remember why
[15:09] <NigeyMoby> Oh dam ...
[15:09] <jonsowman> I can set you up a shell account on a server for irssi if you like
[15:11] <jonsowman> let me know
[15:11] <NigeyMoby> Nah its cool ill chuck ezbounce on Polaris later I think, poor server hardly gets used lol
[15:11] <jonsowman> ok np
[15:11] <NigeyMoby> Cheers though, very kind to offer.
[15:12] <jonsowman> no probs
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[15:12] <NigeyMoby> Tell you who I haven't seen in a while....
[15:13] <NigeyMoby> Dave-momya
[15:14] <jonsowman> ffs zeusbot
[15:14] <NigeyMoby> Lol
[15:14] <jonsowman> that was his nick right?
[15:14] <NigeyMoby> Hehe
[15:14] <NigeyMoby> Might b David
[15:15] <jonsowman> sorry zeusbot I'll stop being mean now
[15:16] <NigeyMoby> Weird, ill mail him later, his sparkfun bits turned up.
[15:17] <NigeyMoby> Lol
[15:17] <jonsowman> ah I see
[15:19] <NigeyMoby> Still can't get that sdcard Shield working, either the sdcard is faulty or the shield is
[15:26] <fsphil> yay, we had the coldest November temperature in N.I. on record, -9.5c, recorded only a few miles away from here :)
[15:26] <jonsowman> fsphil: :)
[15:26] <NigeyMoby> Feck that -2 is cold enough lol
[15:27] <fsphil> mind you somewhere in wales got -18 last night
[15:27] <NigeyMoby> :0
[15:27] <SpeedEvil> -15 is forecast for here.
[15:27] <fsphil> "Northern Ireland hit a new low of -9.5C (15F) at Lough Fea, Co Tyrone, and in Wales, a record minimum of -18C (0F) was reached at Llysdinam, in Powys"
[15:27] <SpeedEvil> Sigh
[15:27] <NigeyMoby> Poets, dam
[15:27] <SpeedEvil> I think we had ~-23 once
[15:27] <NigeyMoby> Grr
[15:27] <fsphil> wow
[15:27] <SpeedEvil> 82?
[15:27] <SpeedEvil> Around then
[15:27] <NigeyMoby> Powys
[15:28] <fsphil> I'd love to get a high altitude shot of this
[15:29] <NigeyMoby> We should all hibernate till may
[15:29] <fsphil> nah, invade australia
[15:30] <NigeyMoby> Lol nooo u seen the size on their spiders!!!
[15:30] <SpeedEvil> http://www.flickr.com/photos/badastronomy/4254627068/
[15:30] <SpeedEvil> Picture of snow
[15:30] <SpeedEvil> (though this was last year)
[15:31] <fsphil> yea: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/3353693/Giant-spider-eating-a-bird-caught-on-camera.html
[15:31] <NigeyMoby> Eww Phil lol
[15:32] <NigeyMoby> I remember those shots from tera lovely images
[15:33] <fsphil> it's a great satellite
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[15:33] <NigeyMoby> Yup money well spent imo
[15:34] <fsphil> hmm no more snow forecast for us next week
[15:35] <NigeyMoby> Awww pop down to Kent I'm sure they'll have some spare next week.
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[17:34] Nick change: laurence_ -> Laurenceb_
[17:40] <Laurenceb_> how much is the ntx2 direct from radiometrix?
[17:41] <Randomskk> 30 or so?
[17:41] <Laurenceb_> its £23 on farnell
[17:41] <Laurenceb_> wondered if it was cheaper direct
[17:42] <Laurenceb_> http://uk.farnell.com/radiometrix/ntx2-434-650-10/transmitter-434-65mhz-10mw/dp/1348829
[17:44] <Laurenceb_> need one for some dsss experiments
[17:45] <Laurenceb_> my module thingy cant easily be used due to the pwm->filtering arrangement
[17:45] <Laurenceb_> i could remove the resitors and caps but they are underneath the ntx2, so its a bit of a pain
[17:47] <Laurenceb_> going to try dsss using differential dpsk - keep the ntx2 data pin at 0v, then whack it up to 3.3v with a single pwm pulse designed to give a 180 degree shift
[17:48] <SpeedEvil> sounds like fun
[17:52] <Laurenceb_> unfortunately its not easy to do the same thing with si4432 or chipcon, as the vco+pll has to be reset to switch frequency aiui
[17:52] <Laurenceb_> so you cant keep to phase coherent
[17:54] <Laurenceb_> something like dsss with chip rate of 4Kbps and data rate of 300 bps or less
[17:55] <Laurenceb_> theoretically you can get performance beating 50 baud rtty with 300 bps data using that technique
[17:55] <SpeedEvil> What would be interesting would be if you could get accurate timing from the SDR
[17:55] <SpeedEvil> -> Multiple recievers = no GPS
[17:57] <Laurenceb_> maybe a km or so error..
[17:58] <SpeedEvil> Oooh.
[17:58] Action: SpeedEvil ponders a two-element directional antenna.
[18:01] <Laurenceb_> http://www.moonraker.eu/Amateur-Radio/Beam-Antennas/ZL-Special-Yagi-Antenna/ZL7-70-70cm-7-ELEMENT-SPECIAL-YAGI-ANTENNA
[18:01] <Laurenceb_> supposedly that really is as good as claimed
[18:01] <Laurenceb_> lots of hams are keen on it
[18:01] <Laurenceb_> ill prob order one
[18:03] <SpeedEvil> Neat.
[18:04] <SpeedEvil> Is there a nice antenna design for vertically polarised radiation?
[18:04] <SpeedEvil> For circularly polarised, for example, crossed loops work well at 90 degrees
[18:05] <SpeedEvil> to do 'virtually steerable' antennas.
[18:07] <Laurenceb_> erm vertical yagi?
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[18:08] <SpeedEvil> Suppose
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[18:28] <fsphil> hmm.. the lake district would not be a place I'd like my payload to land
[18:31] <fsphil> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=a0d26cc3656127c1e0b0ade8ca3edb9cef26769c
[18:31] <fsphil> landing just off Barf
[18:31] <fsphil> indeed
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[18:32] <fsphil> shame there isn't a peak called Lone Starr
[18:34] <fsphil> yikes, it really does live up to its name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barf_LD.jpg
[18:36] <fsphil> coincidence? http://www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/space/images/pizzahut.jpg
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[19:29] <NigeyS> brr cold in ere :o
[19:31] <fsphil> indeedy
[19:31] Action: fsphil is sitting beside a nice warm radiator :)
[19:32] <eroomde> i nearly kicked in the television earlier
[19:32] Action: SpeedEvil is sitting on top of a nice electric blanket
[19:32] <eroomde> i get so f-ing angry at weather people who use words like 'treacherous' and 'this wind is almost dangerous' as soon as the temperature goes below 0
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[19:33] <fsphil> I heard "dangerously cold" earlier on the bbc
[19:33] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[19:33] <eroomde> it's clearly not dangerous, stupid f-ing bint, as people in more northern countries deal with much worse without any issues
[19:33] <SpeedEvil> I've gotten a lot less sensitive to temperature.
[19:33] <natrium42> hahaha, brits :')
[19:33] <eroomde> it's only bad if you don't plan for it or dress stupidly
[19:33] <eroomde> in which case, die
[19:34] <SpeedEvil> I was wandering around outside in a t-shirt for a bit yesterday at ~0
[19:34] <natrium42> bad protesting weather, eh?
[19:34] <eroomde> not if you wear a jumper
[19:34] <SpeedEvil> Wear the whole sheep, it's warmer.
[19:35] <MoALTz> it's dangerous when you're not used to it i suppose
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[19:35] <eroomde> yes but that doesn't mean you're not allowed to take some responsibility and plan accordingly
[19:35] <NigeyS> i have a nice wooly jumper, a halogen lamp and a soldering iron keeping me warm in the other room lol
[19:36] Action: SpeedEvil wonders where the soldering iron goes.
[19:36] <NigeyS> haha all over my stripboard, shocking soldering today!
[19:36] <fsphil> Is that a soldering iron in your pocket, or are you just on fire?
[19:36] <eroomde> there was a woman complaining in her finest northumbrian stupidness about how she's cold and having to wear an extra cardigan and she's still cold, like she's waiting for someone to come along and heat her or something
[19:36] <eroomde> she would be first on my list
[19:36] <NigeyS> pmsl phil!
[19:36] <SpeedEvil> Yeah.
[19:37] <SpeedEvil> Put on more clothes till not cold.
[19:37] <SpeedEvil> Or get out of cold.
[19:37] <fsphil> eroomde, all a load of hot air. which should help
[19:37] <SpeedEvil> Or die of hypothermia.
[19:37] <eroomde> exactly
[19:37] <eroomde> just pick one and shuttup
[19:38] <natrium42> eroomde, cold women need loving too
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[19:38] <NigeyS> Dave-M0MYA !! thought u'd fallen off the planet!
[19:38] <Dave-M0MYA> haha! Missed you too =)
[19:38] <Dave-M0MYA> I have been visiting N.Wales this past week
[19:39] <Dave-M0MYA> they haven't heard of this "interweb" thing up there yet - its about 15 years away ;)
[19:39] <NigeyS> haha oh dear lord
[19:39] <eroomde> natrium42: i have a swedish one. she's fine cos, you know, she puts a jacket and hat on when she goes out
[19:40] <natrium42> so she assembles hereself?!
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[19:41] <eroomde> exhibit a: one girlfriend assembled for outdoorsness http://imgur.com/saugZ.jpg
[19:41] <NigeyS> Dave-M0MYA, your bits are here from sparkfun
[19:41] <NigeyS> hope you got a telescope and a small small small soldering htip :p
[19:42] <Dave-M0MYA> :O
[19:42] <Dave-M0MYA> thank you!
[19:43] <Dave-M0MYA> which components are small to solder to?
[19:43] <NigeyS> no probs, email me your address and i'll pop them in the post monday
[19:43] <NigeyS> err.. all of them lol
[19:43] <natrium42> eroomde, fine :)
[19:43] <NigeyS> logic converters are tiny, the smd headers are super super tiny
[19:43] <natrium42> it's not the size that matters
[19:44] <Dave-M0MYA> ahhh, yes
[19:44] <eroomde> exactly. it's the value
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[19:45] <Dave-M0MYA> I did make a breakout board using veroboard and one of the SMD connectors. It was hard work, but it worked good. However, I am still arring on the side of caution and have just got some flyingleads in the post with connectors fitted
[19:45] <NigeyS> wise idea, im just soldering the ntx2 stuff to a stripboard tonight :|
[19:47] <Dave-M0MYA> cool cool. Do you have a radio to monitor it on yet?
[19:47] <NigeyS> i do, i got a 790 off ebay for £106
[19:49] <NigeyS> brb doing the headers !
[19:49] <Dave-M0MYA> ah, fantastic
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[20:04] <Laurenceb_> personally i like smd on stripboard
[20:04] <Laurenceb_> 0603 and soic on stripboard can work nicely
[20:04] <Laurenceb_> - construct everything on the copper side
[20:05] <eroomde> it's the elmchan bloke that has those amazing-verging-on-ocd prototype boards isn't it?
[20:06] <eroomde> ah yep
[20:06] <eroomde> http://elm-chan.org/docs/wire/wiring_e.html
[20:06] <fsphil> that's ... odd
[20:07] <Laurenceb_> s/odd/awesome
[20:08] <fsphil> nah, I'll stick with odd :)
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[20:12] <fsphil> quick radio question: the rtty shift for a 300 baud signal can be less than 300hz and still decode, just with less noise tolerance?
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[21:27] <GW8RAK> What a frustrating evening. I've been trying to build a temperature logger for the cold weather and if it could go wrong, it has.
[21:27] <GW8RAK> And not all finger trouble.
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[21:42] <fsphil> hate those kind of evenings
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[21:49] <GW8RAK> And trying to get the LCD module to work is a nightmare.
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[22:55] <natrium_> bonjour jcoxon
[22:55] <jcoxon> evening
[22:55] <jcoxon> quick question...
[22:56] <jcoxon> how could i run a 3.3v GPS of say a 3.7v (though up to 4.2v) Lipo
[22:56] <jcoxon> ?
[22:56] <NigeyS> hey jcoxon
[22:56] <jcoxon> hi NigeyS
[22:56] <NigeyS> logic level converter?
[22:57] <Randomskk> jcoxon: 3v3 regulator?
[22:57] <jcoxon> nah its not the logic level thats the issue
[22:57] <Randomskk> would be the usual method
[22:57] <jcoxon> yeah but thats quite a low input
[22:57] <Randomskk> there are literally hundreds that work perfectly for that
[22:57] <Randomskk> look for "ldo" regulators, which most are (low drop out)
[22:57] <Randomskk> the lipo will go down to 3.4v before being flat
[22:57] <Randomskk> but you can readily find 100mV drop out regulators
[22:57] <natrium_> jcoxon, is 3.3V the abs max?
[22:57] <SpeedEvil> You do know that li-ion discharges to 3V when flat?
[22:58] <Randomskk> SpeedEvil: he said lipo though
[22:58] <jcoxon> the gps is quite picky
[22:58] <Randomskk> jcoxon: really, any of a numer of low drop out 3v3 regulators
[22:58] <SpeedEvil> Well - my n900 goes to 2834mV before hardware low voltage cuts in
[22:59] <jcoxon> Randomskk, okay will have a browse
[23:00] <jcoxon> currently my pcb uses a ld11173v3
[23:00] <jcoxon> but i don't think that'll cut it
[23:01] <jcoxon> as for my super-pressure atlas 4x AA are too heavy
[23:01] <Randomskk> you can definitely get some super light and small lipos
[23:01] <Randomskk> they're great
[23:01] <Randomskk> though I'm less sure about their temperature response
[23:01] <jcoxon> not going to be that high
[23:03] <jcoxon> its a real shame my rfbee is only 868 setup rather than 434
[23:03] <SpeedEvil> 4*AAA
[23:03] <SpeedEvil> :)
[23:03] <Randomskk> pfft
[23:03] <Randomskk> two lithium coin cells
[23:04] <Randomskk> s/two/one for really hardcore
[23:04] <jcoxon> 1 lipo 2000mAh
[23:04] <SpeedEvil> 0, a bit of solar cell, and a laser on the bottom
[23:05] <jcoxon> to tell the truth i need to get some better scales first
[23:06] Action: SpeedEvil hugs DX.
[23:06] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17483
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[23:45] <SpeedEvil> Oooh!
[23:45] <SpeedEvil> HA related!
[23:45] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.47665
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